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### Comment: I did a quick calculation using what he might have picked: Sell 1 FB 207.5 Put 7/27 Sell 1 FB 227.5 Call 7/27 Buy 2 FB 217.5 Put 8/10 Buy 2 FB 217.5 Call 8/10 Total profit was 5053 on a 2268 investment Not bad, but of course the profit has nothing to do with reduced IV lol ### REPLY: I really wanted him to explain it better, or Link a source, but he wouldn’t and it’s gone now. Hell one website actually said this type of strategy works better when you expect IV to rise on the later options, which as they’re long that makes sense as they get more valuable, so I dunno. ### END.
### Comment: that sounds like degenerate gambler shit. ### REPLY: Welcome to /r/wallstreetbets ### END.
### Comment: How new are the F-250's? The 2015+ have been significantly improved. As far as the Tacoma... that isn't a 'real' work truck. You can't tow with it or load it up like an F-250. Still great trucks but they are super outdated. ### REPLY: Thank you for proving the point. My Tacoma generates more income for me than both my F-250's combined. I have started to hire out all my towing and mostly I have parked the Fords because of cost of maintenance and fuel. ### END.
### Comment: a v o c a d o t o a s t ### REPLY: Good point, i hadn’t considered that ### END.
### Comment: musk: I don't like earning calls. they are dry and boring and irritating and question everything. ### REPLY: I thought Musk liked boring ### END.
### Comment: You didn't deny the insider info part??? Go hire a lawyer or flee the country... ### REPLY: I think the 'predicted' part implies that it wasn't insider info ### END.
### Comment: What's premium for those 2 puts you sold? ### REPLY: Now or when I sold? ### END.
### Comment: Nope, post proof and I’ll approve ### REPLY: I sold my puts and bought fb calls. Now down 79%. Literally lost all put profits. ### END.
### Comment: Positions for that level of retardation? ### REPLY: Google puts and facebook calls duh ### END.
### Comment: LOL ### REPLY: Look at this giddy ass mother fucker. Why are you still on Reddit after making 400k+? Go and configure a C63 AMG or something, jesus. ### END.
### Comment: You did this play on RH? What collateral for the options you sold? The long strangles or cash & TWTR stocks? ### REPLY: I had to pay $730 per. No extra collateral needed. If you hold down on the option chain it allows you to purchase or sell more than 1 option at a time. ### END.
### Comment: If it opens at 175, you'd be lucky to leave with 1k. ### REPLY: Close it's worth 875$ from 11k to 875$ in a day wow. ### END.
### Comment: Either he has it to lose, has a decent job, or needs to be on suicide watch. 97% loss in a week is just fucking nuts. ### REPLY: You don't lose 97% in that way unless you're entering risky plays. OP knew exactly what he was doing. Can't fault the guy, he has cahones. ### END.
### Comment: Max out your Roth IRA this year for sure ### REPLY: he wont qualify for a roth this year. too much income, has to use trad ### END.
### Comment: self 'kylie jenner' made ### REPLY: These were 7/27s, so all or nothing. We you going all-in on your account, or was this only part of your account. Either way, very ballsy 20 y/o. ### END.
### Comment: A lot of that is because of ideological dumbass and money backed lobbying. A march on penn avenue ain't going to do shit. I'll stay pissed about people dying because of artificial medicine shortages. You have a good time with your subsidized phone. ### REPLY: I'm not taking about marching. Marching ain't gonna do shit, you're exactly right. Until voters have a mass organized recall across the board, nothing meaningful will ever get done. But like I said, people are too fucking lazy to do that. ### END.
### Comment: Tom vs Zucc redemption cagematch would you pay $80 to watch on PPV? ### REPLY: can't afford PPV when zuck arleady cuckt me ### END.
### Comment: I felt the same way. People using FB less and less and it already had a good run up, even If they had beat earnings for me it was hard to see FB going up another 15-20% given the run up it's been having over the past few months so the risk was def worth it. I just didn't have the money to risk but I figured someone from this forum would be smart enough to YOLO it (if real). BTW Yung I need a loan lol ### REPLY: I put $150 into an FB strangle and made $1500. You did not need much money to earn this quarter. FB's stagnation is pretty obvious IMO and Mark himself has been mentioning rising costs for the past 6 months but no one seemed to listen to him. That might work well for hypergrowth companies, but FB is past its hypergrowth phase and is incredibly slow at monetization. ### END.
### Comment: I mean yes in terms of total dollars, it is a large trade to an average person, but in reference to a hedge fund trying to filter out dumb money as WetCat stated, all over $450K in ganiz on options play doesn't make sense. ### REPLY: dudes gonna get a call from SEC soon. ### END.
### Comment: *Book. 1 Book. The Bible. We only sell bibles now. Also we're issuing refunds for all Prime members. ### REPLY: #KJV or go home. ### END.
### Comment: I’m with you friend, I picked up slight OTM calls for 9/21 🙏 ### REPLY: $200 call for that same date. No way it doesn't get there. ### END.
### Comment: You were hella wrong last time, but man this time puts does sound good. :/ ### REPLY: I'm wrong this week too . but reloading for next week ### END.
### Comment: Proof posted. You may begin sucking his dick ### REPLY: lol ### END.
### Comment: I'm UTC-3, Tried to sleep at 4am, awake in bed till 5, watched youtube until 7, slept until 10 Congrats on the tendies ### REPLY: Tendies? old mate can buy a poultry farm... ### END.
### Comment: A ### REPLY: G ### END.
### Comment: You still in? 175 is a good price to get out I think ### REPLY: I have until the end of october... we'll see. I shouldn't be so indecisive over +/- couple hundred bucks. edit: just trying to follow a little more of the 'wait until the end of the day' rule ### END.
### Comment: Kerpow ### REPLY: Hello, this is Kerpal. Your daughter... came to my lawn today, and she kicked my dog. I saw her. ### END.
### Comment: alright what i really meant was 'i forget how poor some of you fucks are' but was just trying to be nice. 2k is like half of my monthly property taxes. ### REPLY: The pain is real. Oh you bought a house for cash? Cool. Well between property taxes and HOA fees, you’re still paying 6k/month ### END.
### Comment: And how did he know on July 18th that FB was magically going to dog it this specific quarter. ### REPLY: He asked 7 friends if they still use facebook ### END.
### Comment: If he's smart, he will. ### REPLY: Hookers aint cheap, and blow isn't healthy. ### END.
### Comment: saw some tweets about buyout rumor so guess that's it! ugh i cashed out of a few calls earlier this week...probably would have been worth 5 digits at the top ### REPLY: nice glad i forgot i owned this and never sold it ### END.
### Comment: How are you so calm about this ### REPLY: Denial is the first stage of grief ### END.
### Comment: As a die hard frugal-er I could retire on half that. ### REPLY: Tendies are cheap! Absolutely. If your expenses are 2k a month (reasonable in many parts of the country), you could live for about 15 years. I think I'd work a job I like or start a business with low expenses and just chill out. ### END.
### Comment: Solid reasoning. Will the market behave accordingly? Hmmm. I look forward to finding out even if I don’t put $$$$ on the line. ### REPLY: Aaaand it’s going sideways. Sorry everyone ### END.
### Comment: Because soy sauce? ### REPLY: Although soy sauce is Chinese in origin Kikkoman, the largest manufacturer, is a Japanese brand. ### END.
### Comment: And they say mental illness is not contagious... ### REPLY: It's not. But the advanced autism of this place sure as shit is. ### END.
### Comment: Can’t buy options on margin lol ### REPLY: Tell that to my credit card company! ### END.
### Comment: Yes, I wrote it when I was 14, would you like a more reputable source like Breitbart or InfoWars maybe? ### REPLY: That article is so stupid it makes my head hurts. It's not even relevant to your point. Just because there are more democrats in a state it doesn't mean that democrats pay more taxes. Conservatives still pay way more in taxes even if they are outnumbered in a state. ### END.
### Comment: Definitely depends on the part of the world. It's everywhere some places ### REPLY: Hm. That's true, I have a friend in Italy that still uses it. But you always follow the American black people, because that's who everyone else follows. ### END.
### Comment: That's how options work I suppose either drown in money or go broke. It doesnt hurt Facebook had a historic crash too. ### REPLY: But like...weren't you afraid of losing 60k? What if FB had a Google-like earnings... What gave you that level of confidence and lack of fucks. ### END.
### Comment: F ### REPLY: B ### END.
### Comment: Yeah dude buy NVDA while green so you can hold it though red KAPPA ### REPLY: lol almost up 50 percent so far since i posted ### END.
### Comment: 8/17 $sbux $60 call ### REPLY: he said gamble!! 7/27 $55 calls ### END.
### Comment: ??? I don’t think that not taking profit when it was only up 3% is a big deal even if he’s down now. ### REPLY: thats my bad I thought it was up 30% ### END.
### Comment: Man I don't know ### REPLY: 203 ### END.
### Comment: Nice. I’m buying calls in the morning to help the cause. ### REPLY: Looks like a good call, friend is pretty happy right now it’s not tanking. ### END.
### Comment: Yeah but then he would have $450K and we wouldn't and that joy would be greater than having $450K and not being able to laugh at the people that ridiculed him... ### REPLY: This guy WSBs ### END.
### Comment: There aren't any tables for *this*. I could however make one. ### REPLY: https://www.usbr.gov/ssle/safety/RSHS/appD.pdf Tables with weight ### END.
### Comment: Puts? They already said they're closing 100 stores, sales can't be great. ### REPLY: seems like they have dropped modestly after the last few earnings calls too ### END.
### Comment: fib extensions are just abcd nothing special about the fib numbers, just use 50% and 100% ### REPLY: You were saying? ### END.
### Comment: DUDE YOU BOUGHT $AVGO LOL ### REPLY: I got absolutely and completely bamboozled lol ### END.
### Comment: I didn't count that because it wasnt a 2-3 million personal loss. It was pooled from his friends and family and it wasnt clear how much of that pool was his own money ### REPLY: Not true if this reporting is correct---- $1.5m was friends and family. He lost $4m. So $2.5m of his own money. [Source](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/xiv-trader-ive-lost-4-million-3-years-of-work-and-other-peoples-money-2018-02-06) ### END.
### Comment: IV CRUSH. ### REPLY: ...thanks? ### END.
### Comment: You think they'll miss? Wouldn't be the first time ### REPLY: i got one otm @ $395 it's basically a lottery ticket. Everyone is buying OTM puts for AMZN and im here for CMG. ### END.
### Comment: When do you think it is gonna be 18? ### REPLY: Lol it is 18.20 right now ### END.
### Comment: Yes ### REPLY: So what are the parameters? I think it's safe to say it's a lot easier to predict when a stock drops than goes up. Why didn't everyone just place puts on DOW in 08? ### END.
### Comment: Considering fb nuked Nasdaq. Nothing happening is good for mu ### REPLY: it green tho ### END.
### Comment: I’m going to wait for AMZN earnings, personally. If they miss and pull a zuck, the whole tech sector is coming down again. ### REPLY: Sold for $100 profit ahhah im out this hoe ### END.
### Comment: Corning traded at over $100 summer of 2000. This company has been around forever and isn't going anywhere soon. Love the Corning Museum of Glass they funded as well (I used to blow glass). Seeing an old glass company innovating and adapting to knew tech while preserving it's artistic/historical side gives me good feelings deep in my scrotum. They teach all kinds of great glass blowing classes and make our cell screens... Pretty fuckin cool. ### REPLY: That’s interesting, thanks for the info! ### END.
### Comment: Too bad the market doesn’t care. What’s even worse: the market dictates the share prize. ### REPLY: I don’t trade options on it. I have 60 shares in Roth and don’t plan to sell. You have to take Buffett’s mindset here- you don’t own a business and check its worth each day. You own it and check it’s value next year or in two years. I believe Applied Materials is a company that I want to own in 5 years. All semiconductor companies have been reporting record numbers and they need applied to produce their chips ### END.
### Comment: Bezos is life. ### REPLY: He still has to prove his worth and beat the inevitable anti-trust lawsuit. Bill Gates still is king of the monopoly board. ### END.
### Comment: Yeah I know I’m just used to FDs ### REPLY: Same ### END.
### Comment: it cost him 3 dollars. More like russian roulette with a nerf gun ### REPLY: You’d get more use literally wiping your ass with those $3 ### END.
### Comment: I'm using both hands to jack off so I haven't had time to type. ### REPLY: ooh ooh do me next ### END.
### Comment: Aaaand it’s going sideways. Sorry everyone ### REPLY: Hahah forgot you were wrong until you pointed it out. Oh well it’s kind of appropriate that it’s literally flatlining after WSB said it died. And of course everyone else is waiting to see what happens too... ### END.
### Comment: Yeah who would’ve thought they’d go up.. I got a like 1% for each. Shitty as fuck ### REPLY: Only down 1 percent now overall on all my pypl shit. Looks like its recovering. You might be doing a little better now. Edit: now I'm up one percent baby. ### END.
### Comment: But like...weren't you afraid of losing 60k? What if FB had a Google-like earnings... What gave you that level of confidence and lack of fucks. ### REPLY: aaaaand no reply of course ### END.
### Comment: Get a part time gig at a Home Depot or Hooters or something ### REPLY: I don’t think I have big enough qualifications for Hooters. ### END.
### Comment: Well that's great news, cause now you admitting you are wrong means you're actually right. Puts it is. ### REPLY: oh wait i thought you were talking about my TSLA FD's i think CMG is gonna shit the bed and i have both aug 3rds and aug 17ths in case it takes a while to slide down ### END.
### Comment: I would like to hear how this works as well. From my research, it is my understanding that the smaller the put the easier it is to profit...but that doesn't make sense because a smaller put would be a smaller investment? I've always been interested about getting into trading but it is extremely complex from an outsider's standpoint. ### REPLY: he basically bought $64k worth of those dollar lottery tickets you buy at the gas station ### END.
### Comment: That’s incredibly small way to think of Facebook as a company ### REPLY: Ok here’s another way: advertising. That’s it. ### END.
### Comment: Maybe all those FB users went to Twitter ### REPLY: Maybe all those FB users went to LinkedIn God bless msft ### END.
### Comment: Could completely forget about saving for retirement and in 10-20 years have a fat retirement balance. ### REPLY: Yeah it makes sense to keep earning at this stage, at least for a decade. Pump that money into a high return ETF, weather the next crash which is inevitably coming soon, and then retire on the next peak. If he keeps earning and saving he could easily have a **safe** $1.5 to $2 million in a decade. ### END.
### Comment: Movie pass disagrees ### REPLY: 250 reverse split, then 50% down on top of that. The literal definition of a garbage dump. ### END.
### Comment: Hold ### REPLY: my ### END.
### Comment: Just think, he would’ve been at 480k make for the year if he didn’t do that last yolo. And there’s still 5months left in the year. ### REPLY: if he had yolod the opposite way he would be retiring a multi-millionaire at 24 ### END.
### Comment: #BULLSHIT ### REPLY: How is it bullshit? Qualcomm, due to its patents and the fact they sell chips globally, is heavily impacted by this. One of their issues was China basically ignoring/stealing their patents on technology. ### END.
### Comment: Hookers aint cheap, and blow isn't healthy. ### REPLY: but according to shkreli everything gets broken down in your body the same way so smashing lines is basically the same as eating an organic cucumber. ### END.
### Comment: Looks like a good call, friend is pretty happy right now it’s not tanking. ### REPLY: If it hold through tomorrow then good chance for heading up. ### END.
### Comment: he said gamble!! 7/27 $55 calls ### REPLY: I'd like to make money, not watch it disappear. ### END.
### Comment: he wont qualify for a roth this year. too much income, has to use trad ### REPLY: Backdoor Roth will do and he can afford an accountant to set it up ### END.
### Comment: You were saying? ### REPLY: You're gonna try to 'gotcha' me about being off by $20? Nice fibs faggot. ### END.
### Comment: jesus christ you're an absolute joy to converse with ### REPLY: Yeah I wasn't too invested in our conversation, apologies. ### END.
### Comment: $200 call for that same date. No way it doesn't get there. ### REPLY: 9/21 175 calls 🙏 ### END.
### Comment: Please explain ### REPLY: Sideways ### END.
### Comment: I got my first 5 shares for 9.30 and kept buying as it fell... ### REPLY: Btw they r gonna keep dropping their business model is losing money ### END.
### Comment: Oh Awesome. Didn't want to buy anything if I wasn't going to be able to sell it for 90 days. I'll take the no day trades for 90 days. RH just went from a game of sonic to a game of dark souls without any PDTs to rely on. ### REPLY: It kind of sucks when you see your options make a good profit but start coming back down but you can't sell until the next day. But then again the restriction has probably forced me to not sell a few times and the profits just skyrocket more. ### END.
### Comment: After seeing for ford and fiat I'm in agreement I think I will buy puts for caterpillar as well ### REPLY: Ford is a shit company and Fiat’s ceo died. No surprise they dropped big but CAT and CMI are sound companies with good business models. Idk man just my two cents anyways ### END.
### Comment: Cars don’t run on natural gas in America ### REPLY: No but oil and gas come together and once more pipes r built from the fracking fields to refineries, I expect gas to stay cheap for a while ### END.
### Comment: So let me get this straight; you lost 25% of your portfolio and decided to gamble what I can only assume is thousands, if not tens of thousands, on a 5+% move on the 2nd largest market cap in the world. LOL good luck ### REPLY: Look at Microsoft the last week, it's possible the market is pretty retarded ### END.
### Comment: 350 bucks. Not anything crazy but was hoping that would grow a little so I could keep playing and learning ### REPLY: Next time look at why the company is there, and if they can make money with the business model. If not it is going to be a dumpster fire. You are learning and will make mistakes. Try to stay away from penny stocks with too good to be true fundamentals. ### END.
### Comment: I predict that TSLA will either go up or down following earnings. ### REPLY: Interesting, I think I will buy some puts or calls. ### END.
### Comment: wholesome post right here. ### REPLY: its us vs them bro ### END.
### Comment: He's 20 with at least 64k... I think that answers at least one of your questions lol ### REPLY: You mean rich parents? Or poker? :D ### END.
### Comment: yeah but you can only do this trick like 3 times before they start to catch on ### REPLY: I just declare my lawn as a dependent. Really just had to name it because I already watered, fed, and maintained it. Little Herbert saves me a bundle. ### END.
### Comment: -20% but I’m gonna hold until the middle of next week anyways. This will blow over ### REPLY: Sell my friend. We thought the same thing about NFLX but it just continued bleeding. Do yourself a favour and let it settle first and if you're still adamant then buy back tomorrow right before close. ### END.
### Comment: shhh bby it's just insurance against AMZN shitting the bed and sending the nasdaq crashing. I don't expect to make money on this trade ### REPLY: Okay, nice ### END.
### Comment: /r/fatFIRE more like it, eh? ### REPLY: Realistically people would need at least 2M to fat fire, but OP has a solid start ### END.
### Comment: Could also be that a certain tech giant nuked Nasdaq ### REPLY: It's been flat all day, I thought there would be some recovery or bounce, he self-zucced ### END.
### Comment: Yea I'd have a breakfast of titty coke and sloppy blowjobs and this dude is talking about spending better time with his family ### REPLY: We would be friends irl. Haha ### END.