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Xbox 360 1953#2640: at least it aint an intel stock
Lumaterian#3557: it's better
Lumaterian#3557: but like
Lumaterian#3557: not much
Lumaterian#3557: also most motherboards default cpu fan to barely spinning
Lumaterian#3557: so it doesn't help
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I'm gonna check out how to fix that in bios
JustinXenyx#8854: i mean, my R5 2600 never got much over 75C with the stock cooler and some fan speed lol
Xbox 360 1953#2640: mine was at like 85 during r6
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I'm going to see about the fan speed
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Oh boy a chart
Lumaterian#3557: what board do you have
Xbox 360 1953#2640: B450m steel legend
Lumaterian#3557: ah
Lumaterian#3557: idr how fan control works on asrock |
Lumaterian#3557: was hoping you had msi, you can press 1 button to lock fans to max
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I could do that but it'd be loud asf
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I might actually
Lumaterian#3557: that fan isn't super loud
Lumaterian#3557: try it and see
Xbox 360 1953#2640: oh yeah thats better
Xbox 360 1953#2640: now its at 54c
Lumaterian#3557: 🙂
Miki2305#5707: Can a Dvi-i adapter work in a dvi-d port if I rip out the 4 pins that are on dvi-i?
Miki2305#5707: This https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/712639650547892354/unknown.png
tdp2612#3835: oh god
Miki2305#5707: Lmao jk
Miki2305#5707: But still imma test it
MythologicalZ#3752: youre just breaking it
MythologicalZ#3752: there is no test |
JustinXenyx#8854: These 4 pins are there FOR VGA @Miki2305
JustinXenyx#8854: Ripping them out literally just breaks the adapter for NO GOOD FUCKING REASON
JustinXenyx#8854: there is nothing to test, the 4 pins are literally there for the VGA adapter
JustinXenyx#8854: just yanking them out renders the adapter useless and yourself a major dumbass
Miki2305#5707: I'm just fucking kidding
Miki2305#5707: I just wanted to see how triggered you were going to be.
JustinXenyx#8854: @Budget Hey can we ban this guy out of tech help for a week?
tdp2612#3835: > no
tdp2612#3835: give him a chance for now
Miki2305#5707: **LMAO**
Miki2305#5707: Imma just leave the server now
Miki2305#5707: Bye guys
MythologicalZ#3752: depressing
Budget#8265: @Miki2305 Mate this is a serious zone
JustinXenyx#8854: he left already lmao (**like, he actually did**) |
Budget#8265: strange fella
TheFifthAce#4128: cringe alert
sandrosandro482#8710: Guys my rx 570 had a mining bios and I tried to flash it back to original and now it doesn't even detect a signal on the display
sandrosandro482#8710: Any idea how I could fix this
Alcyone#2233: you need to use the igpu, or a 2nd gpu for display out and reflash it.
Alcyone#2233: if you are using bios from techpowerup. make sure it supports they brand of vram you have, there can be different bios for the same card
Lady Mipha#0611: @sandrosandro482 ^^^^
sandrosandro482#8710: @Alcyone it does have an igpu but it will only use it if I remove the gpu
sandrosandro482#8710: Ty for ping also
Alcyone#2233: there may be a bios setting to initialize igp first
CaptainFlanger#2563: There's supposed to be a Multi Monitor Support, whatever that name is on BIOS that allows you to use iGPU as display first.
Alcyone#2233: look in the chipset or pch section of bios or refer to the manual
CaptainFlanger#2563: ^
sandrosandro482#8710: I can't use the igpu while the rx 570 is in the system
sandrosandro482#8710: Because sell decided to be stupid |
Alcyone#2233: you are going to need a second dgpu then
Alcyone#2233: Only other option that I know of is a usb bios programmer like a CH341A and a test clip. That will be more difficult and just as expensive, or more expensive than the cheapest video card that could give display out though.
Haiden#5286: So boys a i7 4770 and a 1660 any bottleneck?
CaptainFlanger#2563: Hmm, hard to say. I think the 4770 still can hang with the 1660
CaptainFlanger#2563: Non super ones tho.
Jam#0384: A 4770 is fine with anything up to an rtx 2060
Jam#0384: Or super
Jam#0384: Not the most ideal but it’s not really going to he a huge deal
tdp2612#3835: really?
tdp2612#3835: i wouldve though 1060 6 would be the highest youd go for nicely balanced
Jam#0384: Nah
Jam#0384: I ran a 1080 on my 4770K with no real bottleneck to the card
Jam#0384: 4770K is hardly any faster at stock
Jam#0384: Sure, with a faster CPU you will do better, and it went from like 98% to 100% in some games but as I said pretty minor.
Jam#0384: Yeah, a 2600K with a decent OC (~4.2-4.4GHz) can even handle a GTX 1070 no problems. @tdp2612 Which is like a 1660Super. |
Jam#0384: And that would be weaker than a 4770.
Jam#0384: You will however see improvements with newer, faster processors, but that is not because of an inherent bottleneck.
tdp2612#3835: :thumbsupcat:
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd say for nicely balanced a 1060 6GB checks out, the 4770k could definitely handle more but personally i think it wouldn't be smart to buy something like a 2060 or 1070 while still running a 4770k @tdp2612 @Jam
Jam#0384: Oh I agree, I'm just saying that if you need an upgrade and cannot justify a full platform swap
Jam#0384: You will still gain plenty performance using those cards.
Jam#0384: A 1060 6GB is a pretty nice pair, but a 1660 is in no way going to far.
Alcyone#2233: depends on resolution and expectations. in light titles or shooters the 4770 might not saturate a 1070+ class gpu at 1080p
Alcyone#2233: but the performance should still be good. My main used to be a 2600k oc with 1070 at 1440p and the gpu was always my limiting factor
mi3night#2562: @Haiden I had a 4790k and the bottlenecking only happens with a 5700xt so a 1660 will be fine with your 4770
sandrosandro482#8710: Okay so update on the vbios RX 570 situation. My CPU has an igpu but I can only use it when the dedicated gpu is out of the pc or I could plug a screen into both gpus but when I go I to windows I don't see the 570. I've tried using freedos but it gives me an error about not finding an adapter which I believe could be fixed by commands that would tell ati flash which slot to flash on but I've no idea what commands it needs
Abe.#3344: If I use an x86 windows 7 repair tool, will it work fine if it's a 64bit laptop?
Abe.#3344: I have no idea if it's 32 or 64
Abe.#3344: And the OS just won't work without a repair tool according to it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: which should I *choose* (for hypervisor) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/713104462822244413/unknown.png |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'll go lvm because default option but pls tell me more
mi3night#2562: how do i lower the stock voltage on ryzen
it's way too high at 1.45V on idle
mi3night#2562: 3700x b450 tomahawk max
Alcyone#2233: try the 1usmus power plan
mi3night#2562: whats that
mi3night#2562: 1usmus
Alcyone#2233: yoogle it
Alcyone#2233: its supposed to set a higher usage threshold for boosting and some other things to allow it to hold idle state, and supposedly utilizes cores better
Alcyone#2233: i dont have a raisin so I couldn't tell you how well it works
mi3night#2562: energy saver helps @Alcyone
mi3night#2562: 2.2ghz 0.9V
Clode#2428: does windows 10 works fine on only a pentium 4 and 2gb of ram?
Deleted User#0000: well
so |
i bought the r5 3600
now
this board too
good choice? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/713127593225748550/images_9.jpeg
Lumaterian#3557: board is solid
Lumaterian#3557: colors bad, board good
Deleted User#0000: cool
now memories and bam
gotta move my 2070 to it
Razorsz#5056: for anyone interested i spent time helping @Deleted User with a budget list, thought it may be useful to someone ($300, 500, 600 and 1000 budget) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/713132651418222773/PC_budget_lists.docx
Razorsz#5056: new parts, am4 based, cuz he fren wanted am4 specifically
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Once upon a time I got the chance to first hand experience a CPU bottleneck. i3 6100 with a GTX 1080. That was something to behold. Mabey someday I could try to pair a P4 with my 1080 just to see if it would work. :p
Jam#0384: it can work
Jam#0384: A Pentium 4 and GTX 980 can run DOOM 2016 at 1080p Ultra 50fps |
Jam#0384: :epicgamer:
Jam#0384: Vulkan
Haiden#5286: What in the fuck
Haiden#5286: :crome: :epicgamer: :crome: :epicgamer:
Haiden#5286: Get budget on this
Jam#0384: Theres already a video on it
Haiden#5286: On a pentium 4 running doom?
Jam#0384: Yes
Jam#0384: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Daffeyn3c
Jam#0384: A 970, sorry
Jam#0384: and it's OpenGL.
Jam#0384: ►►►PC Specifications ●
╔►CPU:Intel® Pentium 4 672 @3.8GHz (Overclocked to @4.5GHz)
╠►Memory: 8GB DDR2 Komputerbay 1066MHz
╠►Motherboard: ASUS Maximus II Formula |
╠►GPU: Geforce ASUS STRIX GTX970 4GB 256BIT
╠►SSD: 250GB SAMSUNG EVO 850
╠►PSU: Corsair CX600M
╠►OS: Microsoft Windows 10 x64
╚►Case: Raidmax Vortex V3
Jam#0384: @Haiden
Haiden#5286: Oh I thought you where meaning the big budget
Jam#0384: no
Jam#0384: I said a video
Jam#0384: not a Hamish
Jam#0384: Watch it anyways
Haiden#5286: :epicgamer:
uoʇsodɾ#2412: That's interesting. The P4 held up better than I thought it would. Now pair a GTX480 with a P4.
Jam#0384: I have a prescott overclocked on the stock cooler
Jam#0384: They aren't as hot as you think |
Jam#0384: Still hot, but very not near their limits clock-wise, and can be pushed way further even on stock voltage. On top of this, I think the bigger issue is people's airflow configurations and shitty coolers
Jam#0384: Wasn't as big of a priority back then
Jam#0384: often cases would have one, maybe two 80mm fans for an average person.
Jam#0384: And what normal person is replacing thermal paste often?
Jam#0384: Still, hotter than Northwood for sure.
Haiden#5286: Would have to agree the pentium 4 what it was wasn't as hot running as people believe I've used a later LGA 775 or 641 3.2ghz
Haiden#5286: It does run hot but that's because it was in a Dell sff
Jam#0384: I've got a PGA478 3.0GHz at 3.6 on stock cooler no problem at +0.10V over stock
Haiden#5286: But 478 ones did run quite a bit cooler
Jam#0384: It is the copper core stock cooler, but its really just aluminum with a little copper circle
Jam#0384: @Haiden False
Haiden#5286: Ok false
Jam#0384: Prescott on 478 is the same as Prescott on 775
Jam#0384: It's the same CPUs.
Jam#0384: Northwood on 478 and Willamette didn't run hot |
Jam#0384: Which is why people don't see 478 as being hot
Haiden#5286: I know but Prescott isn't as common on 478
Jam#0384: It is incredibly common
Jam#0384: It came out before 775 did
Haiden#5286: Most of my 478 ones are northwood
Jam#0384: Northwood is the most common, but Prescott is very very common
Haiden#5286: On LGA 775
Jam#0384: No
Jam#0384: On both
Haiden#5286: I hardly see prescott on 478
Jam#0384: Only the very high clocked prescotts are uncommon on 478
Jam#0384: Ok, but just your experience does not define what is common and what isn't
Jam#0384: I'm talking about the big picture
Jam#0384: Not to mention, the LGA775 were usually running colder than the 478 ones because not all are Prescott
Jam#0384: You also have the Cedar Mill chips |
Jam#0384: And others
Jam#0384: These don't run quite as hot as Prescott.
Haiden#5286: Cedar mill was only lga775
Jam#0384: I just said that
Jam#0384: Prescott is the meme hot chip one, and it is on both 478 and 775
Jam#0384: It was the last, excluding Gallatin to release on 478.
Haiden#5286: I know I'm not stupid I can read youve said that Prescott is hot
Jam#0384: But my point was
Jam#0384: They are not as hot as they are being said
Jam#0384: Just, hotter than Northwood
Jam#0384: OEMs paired them with shitty coolers far too often. And terrible airflow case designs in the early 2000s.
Haiden#5286: My experience is that p4s can be hot but also amd CPUs could also run hot
Haiden#5286: That's my experience
Haiden#5286: Not everyones experience
Jam#0384: Any CPU could run hot |
Jam#0384: from that last two decades anyways
Haiden#5286: I mean with similar coolers and such
Haiden#5286: I know CPUs can run hot if they didn't turn why do we need coolers
Jam#0384: What I meant by that is that what you said was kinda irrelevant to the conversation :Peter:
Jam#0384: This is Pentium 4 zone
Haiden#5286: Ok let's go on preshott
Jam#0384: I am using a Prescott right now
Jam#0384: I have 3 of this 478 prescott cpu they are everywhere
Jam#0384: And most of my collector friends have found so many too
Haiden#5286: Because of OEM pcs
Jam#0384: Just in OEMs and whatever
Jam#0384: Yes
Jam#0384: 3GHz and they overclock to hell and back
Haiden#5286: I got most of mine from shitty dell and hp sff pcs
Jam#0384: You ever just gamer https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/713163675921285162/image0.jpg |
Haiden#5286: Ok gamer
vegetal#8870: p3-s best cpu
Jam#0384: I dont have tualatin yet
vegetal#8870: get it
Jam#0384: It costs more than your left testicle
Jam#0384: For a board that’s compatible
vegetal#8870: fair
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I was playing a game and my pc just went black
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Now it's restarting
Xbox 360 1953#2640: On its own, is there something I should be worried about
Xbox 360 1953#2640: My Temps seemed fine on Msi afterburner, gpu and gpu chilling at 80c
Jam#0384: gpu and gpu
Jam#0384: gamerr
IG-86#3740: I need some help once again I was reminded that I had a Dell Studio Laptop And I got the problem that it has a special wifi card (Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6250 AGN + Intel Centrino WiMax 6250) And it does not have any Drivers for Windows 10 Because of the Wimax thing And Ive already tried Installing the normal drivers for the Wifi card for Windows 10 and The Windows 8 Drivers doesn't work So idk what to do about it
IG-86#3740: Cause a laptop is Kinda Useless without wifi |
Jam#0384: suffeer
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Wanted to share this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/713286655548719104/IMG_20190428_160725.jpg
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Kinda miss my 1050
Muse#0557: Why is oblivion in your pc
Lady Mipha#0611: it’s holding the psu up there @Muse
Callum W YT#5631: PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VJwPdm
Callum W YT#5631: Tempted to build this next year but not sure whether to wait for new 1200 chipset to become cheaper
vegetal#8870: thats not a good list
vegetal#8870: whats ur budget
Callum W YT#5631: what's wrong with it
vegetal#8870: basically all of it
vegetal#8870: whats ur budget
vegetal#8870: 1600?
tdp2612#3835: bruh
tdp2612#3835: thats a terrible value for money system yeah |
tdp2612#3835: 9700k over a ryzen is a bad choice id say
tdp2612#3835: the cooler sucks completely donkey dick when the 9700k puts out so much heat
tdp2612#3835: wait
tdp2612#3835: why the fuck are there 2 cpu coolers
vegetal#8870: -intel speaks for itself
-2 AIOs
-2666mhz ram
-2 2tb hdds??
-rtx 2070
-overpriced psu
tdp2612#3835: the ram is hella slow and not even much cheaper than 3000 stuff
tdp2612#3835: the 2 2tbs drives i respect although you could probably just get 1 4
vegetal#8870: yeah
tdp2612#3835: and then tragic looking case
tdp2612#3835: and then also massively overkill and overpriced psu |
tdp2612#3835: i mean its a good psu but you dont need 750 for one gpu
Callum W YT#5631: the cooler is a mistake I though I'd gotten rid of one of them by choosing a different one
Callum W YT#5631: PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/pnPxdm
Callum W YT#5631: this was a different build I was looking at. The main reason I ain't going AMD is because of the durability most people I know who went with AMD had Issues
vegetal#8870: huh?
vegetal#8870: ryzen is very good
vegetal#8870: wdym by issues
Callum W YT#5631: They had AMD cpu die on them in one build then next build had AMD GPU die on them while the NVIDIA and Intel were working perfectly fine
Callum W YT#5631: PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FbGPJ8 this is the current build
vegetal#8870: amd's latest gpu's arent great
vegetal#8870: but their cpus are amazing
Callum W YT#5631: minus the monitor got a new monitor
Callum W YT#5631: Yeah tbf It's looking more like next year I'd be looking to upgrade but I'm just seeing what's out there atm
vegetal#8870: i wanna see what ryzen 4k delivers, the 10900k is basically on par with the 3900x lol
tdp2612#3835: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zNhF9G |
tdp2612#3835: left out the case, and i think 2 2tb drives ould probably make more sense as I'd rather not use the shit toshiba drive ive put on
tdp2612#3835: but the 3800x on there is tit for tat the same as a 9700k in games and thrashes it in rendering or synthetic tests
tdp2612#3835: and its bumped up to a 2070 super
tdp2612#3835: as well as far better ram and a lower wattage but still Teir A psu
Callum W YT#5631: Yeah looks good It's just the issue with quality I have with AMD
Callum W YT#5631: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/JBzkcf/gskill-ripjaws-v-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c19d-32gvrb
Callum W YT#5631: this ram would be better for £10 extra wouldn't it
vegetal#8870: no
tdp2612#3835: thats not 10 extra though
tdp2612#3835: although if you found it with free postage for 10 more, yeah you may as well
tdp2612#3835: if you can actually use it at full speed on the board/cpu combo
Callum W YT#5631: Yeah It's a bad time to buy ram though due to factories and production being behind I was lucky in my first build and managed to buy it in a massive price dip.
Muse#0557: Issue with quality
Muse#0557: Intel became complacent over 10 years cutting things like good heat spreaders and its only since AMD has bought back and introduced features that Intel has followed
Muse#0557: The 9700k is absolutely terrible value |
Callum W YT#5631: yes it's why I'm thinking to wait to see what this 1200 chipset offers
Muse#0557: Terrible value so far too
tdp2612#3835: the 1200 is almost certainly just gonna be another slight upgrade on what we have now
Muse#0557: Hot expensive 14nm cpu
Callum W YT#5631: I might just upgrade my current system with a new GPU my 1060 is holding out quite well atm. My cpu is doing alright as well for what I use it for
Muse#0557: What Cpu do you have
Callum W YT#5631: 6600k
Muse#0557: That's not gonna be a good mesh with a 2070 Super
Muse#0557: 4c4t
Callum W YT#5631: Yeah but might do like an I7 upgrade as well or get a 1080
Muse#0557: 4c8t
Muse#0557: What's even the point
Muse#0557: You'll be spending the same amount as a Ryzen 3600 atleast
Muse#0557: For a deadend cpu with no upgrade path
Callum W YT#5631: yeah it's why I'm not sure atm. My current build fulfils my needs but as you know building a PC you always want to go bigger better and faster |
Muse#0557: There's a big gap between no sure of upgrading atall and awful value 1600 pc :/
Haiden#5286: I9 9900k or bust a nut
Muse#0557: I'd rather bust both
Callum W YT#5631: It's why I'm stuck because I don't trust AMD and intel is behind
Muse#0557: That's called being a fan boy
Muse#0557: Just shows it doesn't work
Callum W YT#5631: I know but It's also due to having a friend who trusted AMD twice as previously stated which caused him troubles
vegetal#8870: when did he trust amd twice?
Muse#0557: If it didn't work they wouldn't have the majority of marletshare
Muse#0557: You also can't rule out user error
Muse#0557: And Fx is alot worse than Ryzen
vegetal#8870: if it was pre-2017 then understandable
Callum W YT#5631: one was before 2017
Muse#0557: I wouldn't be a fan boy Callum it's shooting yourself in the foot... Just looking at the 10900k for 2 seconds shows that Lga 1200 is pointless and a 7700k clearly isn't good value
Callum W YT#5631: not sure on the one that's just gone and died |
Callum W YT#5631: I'll probably do what I always do which is go and look at reviews and performance before I committee anyways .
Callum W YT#5631: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/CallumWpc/saved/wrDvf7
SuSSudio#2688: If you're invested in LGA 1200 don't get i7 and higher models, get the i5 instead. It already came with HT which was entirely absent in 9th gen.
SuSSudio#2688: This 10th gen still leads the pack in gaming performance, minus perf/W & relatively high thermal requirements. Ryzen is not that far behind in this category.
SuSSudio#2688: Not that you should avoid AMD. it depends on your workloads. you like rendering & moving/processing data, then ryzen is for you
You like ultra high fps gaming with very minor dips, intel's for you.
Callum W YT#5631: Tbf wanna get into making some videos again but I'm not sure how intense they'd be
SuSSudio#2688: Your money, your decision.
We've gave you the hints. good luck
MythologicalZ#3752: 10600K with 4000mhzcl15, 5+ will beat i9 in some stuff
MythologicalZ#3752: But best to get am4 atm if you don't want to tune
Muse#0557: Dio you're so well spoken... Whenever it comes to fanboys I just become brash
wiryfuture🦀#1706: How do I add linux to windows 10 bootloader? |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: (uefi)
wiryfuture🦀#1706: fml I can't get it to work
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm scared I'll kill windows and not be able to fix it if i do ``bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path\EFI\ubuntu\bootx64.efi``
Bisexual Billy#9476: @wiryfuture🦀 On the Linux side install a package called OS prober, that allows grub to pick up Windows.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I installed and used boot-repair which contains that
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think it might be nearly working
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think I just need to run that bcdedit command?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I managed to boot to windows from grub when I manually booted to grub
Bisexual Billy#9476: Silly question but did you type grub-mkconfig after running OSProber?
Bcedit should pretty much work in the same way but for the Windows bootloader.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: there's like 8 profiles or whatever in grub for my linux install and windows
wiryfuture🦀#1706: configs?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: idk
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what do I need to change to boot into grub?
Bisexual Billy#9476: 8 Profiles?! |
What, 8 config files located in /etc/default/grub?
and nothing really for Grub I'd just run OS prober and then grub-mkconfig -O with the profile.
I'd recommend taking a look at this.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/52963/how-do-i-set-windows-to-boot-as-the-default-in-the-boot-loader
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm confused
wiryfuture🦀#1706: This isn't an issue with me not being able to boot from grub
wiryfuture🦀#1706: windows bootloader is being booted from when I need ii to be grub
Bisexual Billy#9476: Ah okey.
What type of motherboard do you have?
You should be able to just set it in the UEFI if it's a modern board with UEFI.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: the only option in bios is the ssd
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it only shows the physical device
wiryfuture🦀#1706: for boot order
Bisexual Billy#9476: is it a prebuilt or custom built? |
I remember having to trick one of my laptops into thinking grub is a windows EFI file.
the only thing is, is would that work in a dualboot scenario.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I just got this error: locked esp detected
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's some sort of intel mobo
sandrosandro482#8710: Guys basically I reflashed the stock vbios on my rx570 and it said it was successful but when I restarted it didn't give output. I thought it was the flash that went wrong but I got my trusty gt 430 today to use as a display adapter so I could flash with freedos but that didn't work either. The 430 was working fine on my previous system. Could it be something other than the gpu? Also would resetting cmos somehow help with this
sandrosandro482#8710: I tried two different monitors and different cable types
sandrosandro482#8710: Vga and hdmi
Bisexual Billy#9476: @wiryfuture🦀 Strange.
What happens if you try and reinstall grub?
Jam#0384: What was wrong with the stock vBIOS
sandrosandro482#8710: Basically
Jam#0384: Was it not working?
sandrosandro482#8710: Was a mining vbios
sandrosandro482#8710: And I had to use atikmdag |
sandrosandro482#8710: To get it running
Jam#0384: Ah yeah best to avoid those in general
Jam#0384: You won’t always flash successfully
Jam#0384: :crome:
sandrosandro482#8710: It said it was successful and now I'm kinda doubting it
Jam#0384: as for your GT430
sandrosandro482#8710: I feel like it was
sandrosandro482#8710: Just some compatibility issue
Jam#0384: Successful just means the flash completed
Jam#0384: It doesn’t mean it works
sandrosandro482#8710: Aw
Jam#0384: You could flash bullshit on there and it would still say successful
sandrosandro482#8710: God dammit
Jam#0384: unless it just failed
sandrosandro482#8710: Then why does my 430 not work |
Jam#0384: That’s what I know
Jam#0384: Don’t know*
Jam#0384: Have you ever used it on that board
sandrosandro482#8710: No
sandrosandro482#8710: First time
Jam#0384: Is it OEM board
sandrosandro482#8710: Optiplex 9010 board
Jam#0384: It might not support them
Jam#0384: I dunno
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @Bisexual Billy I've already reinstalled grub
Jam#0384: Try it in another board.
sandrosandro482#8710: I've seen vids all over YT of these being upgraded
Jam#0384: Both, the RX and GT
sandrosandro482#8710: With 1060s n shit
Jam#0384: Well I mean |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i unmounted an efi partition manually and I'm trying boot-repair again
sandrosandro482#8710: It works with the igpu
Jam#0384: I’m just spitting ideas for you
sandrosandro482#8710: Just when the dedicated ones are out
sandrosandro482#8710: This is weird
Jam#0384: I don’t mess with parts like that really.
Jam#0384: I stick mostly to aftermarket
Bisexual Billy#9476: @wiryfuture🦀 Did it mention anything about not being able to create a file due to read only file system?
Jam#0384: But yeah just try normal troubleshooting things
Jam#0384: Try on other parts
Jam#0384: Etcetera
sandrosandro482#8710: Resetting cmos would it do something
Jam#0384: I mean you should always try
sandrosandro482#8710: Would it require further setup
Jam#0384: Probably? I dunno. Haven’t used the board |
Jam#0384: Theres nothing that doesn’t require some know how or setup
Jam#0384: That’s what it takes.
sandrosandro482#8710: Fuckin yolo
sandrosandro482#8710: Noones said that word in a decade
sandrosandro482#8710: :haha:
sandrosandro482#8710: I'll just do it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @Bisexual Billy I get the error "locked ESP" from boot-repair?
Bisexual Billy#9476: What about from Chroot.
maybe you'll get a better idea of whats happening.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what is chroot
Bisexual Billy#9476: It's when you login to your Linux install as Root from a different install.
this can be a live USB for instance, tbh that's what I think is the best way to look at boot issues.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: well great
wiryfuture🦀#1706: huh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I messed about with boot-repair |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and it's kinfa working
wiryfuture🦀#1706: well
wiryfuture🦀#1706: when I try boot windows it freezes instantly with weird artifacting
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it does this
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/713414804685193226/JPEG_20200522_163525.jpg
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I reinstalled and reset everything
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ok i give up i'll just manually go linux when i want to
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ooof
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I have no video output from my gpu even though I know it works
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: so questions
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I used this 7950 is this system with linux off a usb, worked fine
wiryfuture🦀#1706: now I'm trying to use it with installed windows and I'm not getting anything
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: does it work *until* it installs drivers
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I mean
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't know because I'm not even seeing bios |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: or does it not work with windows at all
wiryfuture🦀#1706: screen
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > I used this 7950 is this system with linux off a usb, worked fine
hmm?
DarknessFalls229#2286: try windows 8
wiryfuture🦀#1706: before I set up the Oses, I tested the system with linux off a usb and it worked
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't have an iso for 8
wiryfuture🦀#1706: only 8.1
wiryfuture🦀#1706: :epicgamer:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but u just said it didnt got to bios screen
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: or did windows do something
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: now it doesn't
wiryfuture🦀#1706: earlier it did
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ok question |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: when it did , were u able to install windows
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and after a bit it crashed
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and wasnt opening
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I took the gpu out and installed without it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: so I could access all the sata ports
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but then after that you put in the gpu and it wouldnt post ?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: it probably switched to igd in bios or something
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: if thats a yes
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i checked it's on pcie
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: hmm
wiryfuture🦀#1706: if I take it out the igpu works fine
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i can see
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but as soon as I put in the gpu i get no video from it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: now
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ~~sanity check the 6 pin cables~~ |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I heard a single beep on one boot when I put it in
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: whats your motherboard
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: because that differs
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: also long or short
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: itt should be fine if it always beeps
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: some motherboards always beep on startup
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but it depends
wiryfuture🦀#1706: h67 intel weird stuff
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it has "no video beep" enabled in bios
wiryfuture🦀#1706: idk what no video means tho
Jam#0384: When gpu dead or no gpu plugged in
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it beeps once when i take the gpu out and then put it in again
wiryfuture🦀#1706: there's no way that the gpu is dead
wiryfuture🦀#1706: no way it just dies on its own in two days
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and i can see it's plugged in |
Alcyone#2233: one beep is post
Alcyone#2233: there may be a setting in bios to initialize pcie/peg gpu first
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it is in pcie
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I did it while on igpu
Alcyone#2233: also if you havent already try with the cable to igp unplugged and only the gpu display cable plugged in
wiryfuture🦀#1706: the igpu cable is unplugged 😦
Alcyone#2233: i kknow its in pcie, you may have to tell the motherboard to use it as the primary display adapter
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: under video primary = pcie
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but i'll check again
Alcyone#2233: if all of the above have been done, youre certain the gpu is inserted fully and any pcie power cables are fully seated. I dont know what else it could be that isnt hardware related
Alcyone#2233: make sure the display cable didnt get pulled out of the back of the monitor and it is on the correct input as well
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i think it might be outputting black
wiryfuture🦀#1706: because it's not saying no signal
wiryfuture🦀#1706: on my monitor |
Alcyone#2233: try a different display cable if you have one
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i have
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I've got two, both work on igpu
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I tried another gpu, that one beeped a fuck tonne
wiryfuture🦀#1706: this 7950 only beeps once if at all
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's beeped like two or three times out of however many I've tried
wiryfuture🦀#1706: wtf
wiryfuture🦀#1706: IT JUST STARTED WORKING
wiryfuture🦀#1706: WHAT THE FUCK
wiryfuture🦀#1706: WHAT
wiryfuture🦀#1706: IT JUST STARTED
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ????
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I feel like windows doesn't bug you for a license if you just sign in with an ms account
Lumaterian#3557: windows 10 doesn't bug you for a license ever
Lumaterian#3557: it just watermarks the screen and disables personalization settings |
Racey#8574: basically a big fuck you
Deleted User#0000: It's alright for proprietary software, it allows you to keep the wallpaper at least, unlike windows 7...
Xbox 360 1953#2640: @JustinXenyx :frobotmoment: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/713548292117495899/unknown.png
Xbox 360 1953#2640: the guy with the grey box psu powering the i7
tdp2612#3835: :epicgamer:
Xbox 360 1953#2640: he's now looking for a replacement
Xbox 360 1953#2640: http://us.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/powersupply/legacy-psu/extreme-power-plus-600w.html he's looking at this now, what do you guys think of it
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/713553584838672425/unknown.png
tdp2612#3835: its my favourite psu
tdp2612#3835: http://us.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/powersupply/legacy-psu/extreme-power-plus-600w.html
Tesi#5431: Weird question/build:
My wife and I just bought our first house and I'd like to mount an older nostalgic PC to my wall as something of a cringy art piece.
I'd like to use hardware from the days when I first got into PC building (2007-2011) (PSU and SSD boot drive excluded of course).
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Anyway, I'm looking for the most aesthetically unique GPU that can run Skyrim at 720p+ with decent settings. I definitely don't just want a gunmetal shroud; I'd much prefer something that screams "late 2000s gaming". I was broke and in college at the time (a Quadro NVS150m laptop first then a used GT 520 in an OEM) so I was pretty out of the loop when it came to high-end cards of the era
Interesting CPU/mobo recommendations would be helpful too.
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, i have only a vague idea of skyrims hardware requirements, especially because it seems that everyone that plays skyrim mods it to shit
Tesi#5431: I have my main rig for stuff like that; this is just vanilla base game so it can be a functional piece of art
JustinXenyx#8854: But "2007-2011" is personally a pretty vague description hardware wise, because even in 2011 1155 and GCN existed
Tesi#5431: Mostly trying to cast as wide of a net as possible
JustinXenyx#8854: I think, from a performance standpoint and availability and driver perspective LGA 1155 and something like a 7970 are probably your best bet
JustinXenyx#8854: Given that we are talking late 2000s - early 2010s style PC building there are a lot of modding possibilities that you have
Tesi#5431: yeah, I just started researching the project and am simultaneously excited and overwhelmed by the possibilities
exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/713815164734144702/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: Do you guys recommend the sandisk x400 m.2 as a boot drive? Can get the m.2 version of it for 20 bucks and i dont know if its worth it
Deleted User#0000: Its either that or a 600p for about the same price
Flannel84#2980: So recently my fiancee, myself, and a friend of ours have been playing Minecraft on a LAN server hosted from our friends Mac (myself and my fiancee have PCs). The first night he opened the game to LAN and we all joined with no issue. Now my fiancee is unable to join and either gets disconnected or more commonly gets;
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"io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel$AnnotatedConnectException: Connection Timed Out: no further information"
We've tried changing firewalls, resetting our wifi router, restarting the game/PC, altering a minecraft installation, and more but to no avail. Searching online turns up very little in the way of helpful information.
Does anyone have experience with this or have heard of a solution?
mi3night#2562: Sometimes my WiFi’s 5ghz line losses connection but my 2.4ghz connection is still fine. What’s the issue here
mi3night#2562: After 10min the 5ghz line goes back online again
"Cobs"#1150: > So recently my fiancee, myself, and a friend of ours have been playing Minecraft on a LAN server hosted from our friends Mac (myself and my fiancee have PCs). The first night he opened the game to LAN and we all joined with no issue. Now my fiancee is unable to join and either gets disconnected or more commonly gets;
>
> "io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel$AnnotatedConnectException: Connection Timed Out: no further information"
>
> We've tried changing firewalls, resetting our wifi router, restarting the game/PC, altering a minecraft installation, and more but to no avail. Searching online turns up very little in the way of helpful information.
>
> Does anyone have experience with this or have heard of a solution?
@Flannel84 check your firewalls. Normally the most common problem with mc servers. Also check that your problematic host can ping the server without any problems |
Flannel84#2980: So far it seems to be a bad java version, but will check
SuSSudio#2688: WHY i don't recommend i7 10700K when building 10th gen Intel platform
https://youtu.be/_UMMPjqLe8g
mi3night#2562: @"Cobs" hey eh can u help with my issue?
mish#5687: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635625795695542272/714077203264045106/IMG_20200524_132533.jpg
mish#5687: im trynna boot pop from my usb drive and it's stuck at this
mish#5687: i've tried everything
KingGaurav#4771: guys, can someone tell me why the front usb ports work fine on flash drives and shit, but whenever I plug in a phone, it just keeps connecting and disconnecting
KingGaurav#4771: "pop" did you mean plop?
mish#5687: pop!_os
mish#5687: i think it's an issue with the mobo
JustinXenyx#8854: try not booting from UEFI? @mish
mish#5687: i did
JustinXenyx#8854: @KingGaurav USB port is not able to deliver enough power probably
JustinXenyx#8854: Tried reflashing the ISO onto the stick and made sure everything checks out there? |
mish#5687: yes
mish#5687: for some reason, it takes ages to load into the bios tab in my mobo
mish#5687: my mobo sucks arse lmfao
mish#5687: it "works", but that's just about it
Deleted User#0000: Since I never got a reply on reddit I think it would be a good idea to ask here
have a Dell Optiplex 3010 that I managed to get for free and my parents let me choose parts to upgrade it for my birthday (around 150 pounds to spend) specs:
Intel core i3 3220 3.3ghz
Intel HD 2500 graphics
250gb HDD
I'll be trying to get at least 1080p 50fps (hopefully medium settings) on: GTA V, War Thunder, Euro Truck Simulator 2, Just Cause 4 and cs:go
Deleted User#0000: Upgrades:
Ram:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-HX318C10FBK2-FURY-Black-1866/dp/B00J8E90I2/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=8gb+ddr3+1866&qid=1590324290&sr=8-4
GPU: [Already owned] GTX 780 3gb Windforce OC Edition |
Case:
https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/avp-kolus-rgb-mid-tower-black-case/k-181.html
PSU:
https://www.centralcomputers.co.uk/product/16478_156_3167774/T380697-BN247--be-quiet-SYSTEM-POWER-600W-ATX12V-EPS12V-Modular-Power-Supply-600-Internal
SSD:
https://www.mymemory.co.uk/kingston-240gb-a400-ssd-2-5-sata-iii-ssd-500mb-s.html
NOTE - 1866mhz ram is cheaper than 1600 or 1333 (1333 being the most expensive for some reason)
mish#5687: it's alright but upgrade the cpu to an i5 or even an i7
JustinXenyx#8854: First of all, avoid the Kingston A400 like the plague, they fail like motherfuckers
Deleted User#0000: @JustinXenyx any suggestions?
JustinXenyx#8854: Secondly, you WILL needs a better processor, especially for GTA V and JC4
mish#5687: ^
JustinXenyx#8854: BX500 is usually similar price and doesnt fail on you lol |
Deleted User#0000: Ok 😆
JustinXenyx#8854: Third: I'd buy used RAM, 8GB of DDR3 for 40 quid is pretty high, used RAM costs like half that
Deleted User#0000: Ok
Deleted User#0000: I'll see what I can do
JustinXenyx#8854: Case is a bit of a meh from me, but for 30 quid i've certainly seen worse
mish#5687: also don't get a gtx 780, kepler aged badly
mish#5687: get an amd equivalent
JustinXenyx#8854: read, he has it already
mish#5687: ah
Deleted User#0000: I paid 30 quid for it
JustinXenyx#8854: That is actually not too bad
mish#5687: that's a good deal
Deleted User#0000: I know
Muse#0557: Anybody know any 1155 oem boards that definitely work with normal psus and cases
Muse#0557: big thank |
tdp2612#3835: aaaaaaaaaa
tdp2612#3835: i already said get an old dell one
JustinXenyx#8854: Dells MATX Mobos usually work without issue
tdp2612#3835: also for cpu just see what they came with from the factory, a midrange 1155 i5 can handle jc4 fine with low/mid settings
Deleted User#0000: Also @JustinXenyx can you have a look at the psu I want to use (it's probably most important part of my build)
tdp2612#3835: not the most stable fps, but youll get 50 ish on average
mish#5687: my i5 handles it at ultra
tdp2612#3835: from my experience anyway
mish#5687: 😂
tdp2612#3835: system power 9 is alright iirc
JustinXenyx#8854: I would have said something if it was a bad PSU
Muse#0557: i was just wondering if i can cut £10 or so off the cost
Muse#0557: because it adds up over time
tdp2612#3835: yeah its in tier B, perfectly alright psu
Muse#0557: Be quiet power supplies are pretty good quality |
Deleted User#0000: Alright thanks, you guys are so much better than the people on r/buildapc
Muse#0557: usually overpriced
tdp2612#3835: well yes
Muse#0557: but perfectly adequate]
tdp2612#3835: because pc reddit is just
tdp2612#3835: hahahahaha intel bad
Muse#0557: reddit is a place for expression not help
tdp2612#3835: i shove ryzen up my ASS and I get BETTER THERMALS than SHINTEL ha ha ha
Muse#0557: who was the kid who got banned
Muse#0557: because i recommended amd
tdp2612#3835: crazygamer?
tdp2612#3835: or ddt
JustinXenyx#8854: dollardealtech, he says ryzen/amd in general is a house fire
tdp2612#3835: *gone but not forgotten*
Muse#0557: yes |
Muse#0557: i wrote a funeral speecy
Muse#0557: speech
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Deleted User look for the deepcool matrexx 55
JustinXenyx#8854: pls dont post it here lol @Muse
mish#5687: do
Muse#0557: why not 🙂
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's a better case for £35, tempered glass is much better than the usual acrylic shite you can find
mish#5687: do it
thatubuntuguy#5914: much easier to clean and doesn't get scratches everywhere
JustinXenyx#8854: because this is #❓tech-help-and-talk❓ and only tech discussion should be posted here
mish#5687: post it in #💻normal-chat💻
tdp2612#3835: also @Deleted User just check that the board will know what to do with the nice ram, it might be worth dropping to slower ram and saving a bit if it cant make use of it
thatubuntuguy#5914: Don't buy ram new, get ddr3 used
JustinXenyx#8854: Tempered glass is a BITCH to clean if it breaks, why the fuck do case manufacturers thing it was a good idea
mish#5687: 24gb ram :) |
Muse#0557: Tempered glass isnt worth it
JustinXenyx#8854: > Don't buy ram new, get ddr3 used
literally said that 10 minutes ago lol
Muse#0557: there are too many drawbacks
tdp2612#3835: plastic is easier, just be careful to not scratch it
thatubuntuguy#5914: i scored some nice hyperx 1866 mhz ram for £6.50 on ebay like two minutes ago
Muse#0557: the main thing for me is that plastic is lighter
thatubuntuguy#5914: how would you break your side panel
Muse#0557: dropping it
tdp2612#3835: smash a chair into it
Muse#0557: glass shatters
thatubuntuguy#5914: I mean it depends on the use case
thatubuntuguy#5914: I don't touch my pc as in I don't move it a lot
thatubuntuguy#5914: so tempered is fine
thatubuntuguy#5914: but if it was a lan pc then you have a point |
thatubuntuguy#5914: It's not gonna just break
Deleted User#0000: I have about 3 to 5 lan parties a year
tdp2612#3835: oh youre english
thatubuntuguy#5914: Ah right if you're using your pc for lan parties then yes do not get the matrexx 55 because the tempered glass can break
Deleted User#0000: > i scored some nice hyperx 1866 mhz ram for £6.50 on ebay like two minutes ago
@thatubuntuguy do you have the link?
JustinXenyx#8854: TG in general is much easier to break and personally that is a risk i am not going to take myself as i still find TG shards around my office
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Deleted User it was an auction
thatubuntuguy#5914: if you look around you can find some good stuff
Deleted User#0000: oh yeah that makes more sense
Deleted User#0000: I'll see what I can do
tdp2612#3835: cex is still open online if you want ram, theyre pretty decent if you dont want to wait for ebay
thatubuntuguy#5914: nah nah
thatubuntuguy#5914: cex is completely out of stock
thatubuntuguy#5914: i just checked |
tdp2612#3835: oh rip
thatubuntuguy#5914: well before i started scouring ebay i looked on cex all their ram is out of stock lmao
thatubuntuguy#5914: they have pretty much nothing in stock
thatubuntuguy#5914: because of covid
Deleted User#0000: yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: Like **if** it breaks, it breaks like a BITCH and it is gonna take a LOT of cleaning to get every little of those bitchy shards out
thatubuntuguy#5914: Agreed
Deleted User#0000: If I manage to save money from buying cheaper ram I'll 100% be able to get an i5
Deleted User#0000: If not then I can just pay with my own money
Muse#0557: Most cases that have plastic windows its cheaper to buy a whole case than to replace a tempered glass side panel
Deleted User#0000: So do you think a "avp kolus" is going to be good
thatubuntuguy#5914: looks alright
JustinXenyx#8854: its a 30 pound case
JustinXenyx#8854: you should not expect a whole lot
thatubuntuguy#5914: it looks quite stylish |
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's not gonna be amazing to build in
thatubuntuguy#5914: but it'll look good
Muse#0557: the avp kolus is a fucking nightmare to build in
Deleted User#0000: is it
Muse#0557: its not just meh
Muse#0557: its dreadful
thatubuntuguy#5914: ah shit he has the experience
JustinXenyx#8854: again, 30 quid
JustinXenyx#8854: for 30 quid it is going to be dreadful
Muse#0557: the cables already in the case
Deleted User#0000: I'm pretty sure RGinHD use an avp kolus
Muse#0557: are routed in a wierd way
Muse#0557: the front rgb power cable was routed wierdly
Muse#0557: so with the tip of my fingers
thatubuntuguy#5914: steeeve |
Muse#0557: i had to fuck around unplugging
Muse#0557: and repluging it so the cables werent dangling into view
Muse#0557: i also cut my knuckles like 6 times building it in
Muse#0557: dont buy one
Deleted User#0000: I think it was his "ryzen 1600af build" video
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's £26.99 on the link he sent
Deleted User#0000: yeah
Muse#0557: lemme find a better case 2 seconds
thatubuntuguy#5914: Since I have experience with my deepcool case I would say get that but it is tempered glass
Deleted User#0000: It also comes with a fan while most ebay 30 pound ones dont
thatubuntuguy#5914: the deepcool is pretty good quality ngl, its really well built
thatubuntuguy#5914: it was great to build in too because there was a shit ton of clearance for cable management
Deleted User#0000: I'll check it out
Muse#0557: with cheap cases
Muse#0557: you want a psu shroud |
Muse#0557: since cheap power supplies
Muse#0557: have really stiff cables
Muse#0557: you need a place to mush them
thatubuntuguy#5914: Semi modular psu
thatubuntuguy#5914: :dAB:
thatubuntuguy#5914: I stuffed my cables into the drive bay
thatubuntuguy#5914: works well
Muse#0557: there are alot of nice looking cases on ebuyer
Muse#0557: but they dont have shrouds
thatubuntuguy#5914: because there's a lot of space behind the drives
Muse#0557: https://www.ebuyer.com/964785-aerocool-bolt-tempered-glass-mini-tower-case-black-accs-pv20013-11
Muse#0557: https://www.ebuyer.com/921252-1st-player-rainbow-r3-black-mini-tower-rainbow-r3
thatubuntuguy#5914: you can mush all the cables behind the drives and it looks very clean
Muse#0557: the r3 looks lush
Muse#0557: in a semi modular yeh |
Muse#0557: but most cheap power supplies
Muse#0557: have a million stiff sata cables
thatubuntuguy#5914: wait why is this matrexx so expensive
thatubuntuguy#5914: I paid literally £35 for it
thatubuntuguy#5914: its £70 now
thatubuntuguy#5914: oh that's the argb model
Deleted User#0000: I'm probably going for that be quiet psu anyway. My original choice was a evga one. Then Coolermaster but both of them were sold out. So I'm kinda pissed and don't really want to look for more psu's. Also I want the psu's to be 50 quid, be at least 600w and have a rating
thatubuntuguy#5914: oh wait its £70 because it includes rgb fans
thatubuntuguy#5914: i big dumb
Muse#0557: i think rather than making extra profit im going to put the £10 saved on mobos into a better psu
Deleted User#0000: Also it's ebuyer.com and I'm in the UK
Muse#0557: to reduce heaaches when building
Muse#0557: its honestly worth the stress relief
Deleted User#0000: psu is what I'm putting most of the budget into
thatubuntuguy#5914: the bequiet is modular |
Muse#0557: i flip computers
thatubuntuguy#5914: they've changed the matrexx cases
Muse#0557: thats what im talking about btw
Muse#0557: when i mention budget
Muse#0557: and saving money
Muse#0557: 🙂
thatubuntuguy#5914: not doubting ya
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714105789341761546/3095986-l-c.png
thatubuntuguy#5914: They've changed the buttons
Muse#0557: theres no airflow
Muse#0557: tho
Muse#0557: why not make the front a mesh
Muse#0557: would look even more sexy then
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714105903925821510/2975632-xl-b.png
Muse#0557: plus thermals |
thatubuntuguy#5914: That's what i have
thatubuntuguy#5914: It's actually not bad
thatubuntuguy#5914: I have three slowish fans in the front
Deleted User#0000: https://www.centralcomputers.co.uk/product/16478_156_3167774/T380697-BN247--be-quiet-SYSTEM-POWER-600W-ATX12V-EPS12V-Modular-Power-Supply-600-Internal This one isn't modular
thatubuntuguy#5914: pulls a decent amount of air in
thatubuntuguy#5914: there's a hole in the bottom as well
Deleted User#0000: Thats the one I'm going for
Muse#0557: bottom just goes into psu
thatubuntuguy#5914: no no
thatubuntuguy#5914: I mean under the front panel
thatubuntuguy#5914: You can't see it in the pictures
Muse#0557: make sure you keep your desk scrubbed
Muse#0557: thats gonna drag in tons of dust otherwise
thatubuntuguy#5914: Ye I do
Deleted User#0000: I don't need the cable managment to be extremely nice |
Deleted User#0000: Thats were I'm putting my build https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714106550809133087/20200524_142336.jpg
thatubuntuguy#5914: Oh lmao
Muse#0557: ps2
Deleted User#0000: yep
thatubuntuguy#5914: There's better cases
thatubuntuguy#5914: Which aren't gamery
Muse#0557: fractal 1000
Muse#0557: is nice
Muse#0557: i would buy a meshify
Muse#0557: if it wasnt like 90
Muse#0557: also considering a 3000
Muse#0557: because airflow
Deleted User#0000: Since my build is going on the floor I'll probably need fans in the top of my case as well
Deleted User#0000: And regular cleaning
Muse#0557: i would get a piece of mdf |
Muse#0557: to put under it
thatubuntuguy#5914: good idea
thatubuntuguy#5914: mdf is dirt cheap
thatubuntuguy#5914: easy to cut
Muse#0557: I just realised
Muse#0557: the s340
Muse#0557: has no airflow
Muse#0557: atall
thatubuntuguy#5914: lmao
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714107303946747934/large_89d574fb6cefb274.png
Deleted User#0000: Yeah I'd rather have the build more in sight
tdp2612#3835: i need to put something under my case tbf
Muse#0557: i was thinking about getting an s340 elite
tdp2612#3835: the feet sink into the carpet so the psu gets no airflow
thatubuntuguy#5914: There's a hole under the front panel iirc |
tdp2612#3835: plus its already bomb tier so it gets real warm
thatubuntuguy#5914: lmao bomb tier
Muse#0557: thats garbage for airflow
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's awful
thatubuntuguy#5914: at least my deep cool has side vents
Muse#0557: same for the new generation too
Muse#0557: wtf
tdp2612#3835: it depends on how powerful its gonna be tho
thatubuntuguy#5914: s340 is on another level
tdp2612#3835: do you wanna buy my whole pc
Muse#0557: sure
tdp2612#3835: with a decent case and shit
Muse#0557: 2p for it
Deleted User#0000: If I get something thats the same height as my table then the build will go there https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714107681308278804/20200524_142811.jpg |
Deleted User#0000: I will need to move a few thing though
Muse#0557: doesnt seem worth the hassle
tdp2612#3835: nah a little stick out bit there would be good
tdp2612#3835: as its then on the right side so you can see into the window
Deleted User#0000: That's why I was thinking I should do it
Deleted User#0000: So I can see the inside of the case
Muse#0557: what case
Muse#0557: its a dell sff
Muse#0557: am confused
Deleted User#0000: I'm getting a new case
Deleted User#0000: I got that thing for free
"Cobs"#1150: > Sometimes my WiFi’s 5ghz line losses connection but my 2.4ghz connection is still fine. What’s the issue here
@mi3night Sounds like the channel your 5GHz is broadcasting on is too busy, pop into your router settings and see if it lets you change it
Deleted User#0000: and now I'm upgrading it
Muse#0557: ah |
Muse#0557: and the mobo has 24 pin
Muse#0557: not a 18 or something
Deleted User#0000: yes it has 24
Deleted User#0000: what would happen if it was 18? I'm a noob at those kind of things
tdp2612#3835: youd need to buy a new board
Deleted User#0000: that's what I thought
tdp2612#3835: or you could buy an adapter but i dont trust them really
Deleted User#0000: but I'm 99% sure it's 24
Muse#0557: open it up
Deleted User#0000: If not then I'm f***d
Deleted User#0000: it didnt let me do 4 stars
Deleted User#0000: I can check right now actually if it's 24 or 18
Muse#0557: *drumrolls*
Deleted User#0000: Its 24 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714110196628062278/20200524_143833.jpg
Muse#0557: *gruntbirthdayparty* |
tdp2612#3835: get a photo of the whole board
tdp2612#3835: hopefully its a normal shape one
Muse#0557: it can have wierd power things aswell
Muse#0557: its a normal sff
tdp2612#3835: it probably will be
Muse#0557: so probably not
Muse#0557: but some workstations and precision towers had 6 pins
Muse#0557: on the mobo
tdp2612#3835: ye
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714110433119830126/20200524_143943.jpg
tdp2612#3835: nah thats fine
tdp2612#3835: thats about as good as it could be
Muse#0557: would that take normal cooler
tdp2612#3835: shame its only 2 ram slots
Deleted User#0000: I know |
tdp2612#3835: i think that would take a normal cooler ye
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
Muse#0557: i could probably use that model for my pcs
Deleted User#0000: Although this pc was on a Oil rig (they were getting rid of them thats how I got it for free) and I think the cooler is stuck to the cpu (8 year Old thermal paste)
Deleted User#0000: And that sucks
tdp2612#3835: not bad for free then
Deleted User#0000: So thermal could be better if I can take off the cooler and apply new paste
Muse#0557: you cold probably rip it off
MythologicalZ#3752: just unscrew the backplate
MythologicalZ#3752: and pull it off
MythologicalZ#3752: its not pga
Deleted User#0000: Oh yeah
MythologicalZ#3752: cpu will not get pulled up with it
Muse#0557: the cpu is secured by the socket
Muse#0557: thermal paste cant be that strong |
Deleted User#0000: I will be talking apart the pc next month (thats when I do the actual build) do I'll try that
Deleted User#0000: I'm ordering everything on Friday (apart from the ram which I might get before or after because I'm getting it used from eBay to save cost and So I have enough money for a i5
Deleted User#0000: Anyway thanks for the help everyone you saved me some money got me some more performance and most of all you were a lot more useful than the people over at r/build a pc. Budget should be really proud of this community.
Muse#0557: :_)
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Muse I won the PNY kit
thatubuntuguy#5914: £13
Muse#0557: so thats 14gb of ram?
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah
thatubuntuguy#5914: £6.50 for the hyperx stick
Muse#0557: not bad
thatubuntuguy#5914: £13 for the pny
Muse#0557: thats great man
thatubuntuguy#5914: tysm for the help
Muse#0557: np
thatubuntuguy#5914: my £29 s4 got dispatched today |
Muse#0557: youre having a good day
thatubuntuguy#5914: I am indeed
Deleted User#0000: @thatubuntuguy wow great price
Jam#0384: HAHAH
Jam#0384: :crome:
Jam#0384: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714142205513826354/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kolink-inspire-series-k5-rgb-midi-tower-case-black-window-ca-03v-kk.html
Deleted User#0000: Is this Case good?
Muse#0557: Looks quite tacky
Muse#0557: but a cheap case is a cheap case
Muse#0557: atleast it has some vetns
Muse#0557: vents
Deleted User#0000: Yeah thats important for me
Deleted User#0000: Its still better than any cases I have ever owned
Muse#0557: If you are happy to have it on your desk then go for it just don't get more than 2 harddrives |
tdp2612#3835: yeah its not pretty
tdp2612#3835: no 5.25 bay and limited 3.5 inch support
tdp2612#3835: but hey, window, psu shroud, some amount of intake, and the vent on top
JustinXenyx#8854: Kolink does some solid cases in general, for 25 quid i'd consider that one really decent
Deleted User#0000: @JustinXenyx the bx500 is out of stock www.mymemory.co.uk
Deleted User#0000: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-WDS240G2G0A-Internal-Green/dp/B076Y374ZH/ref=asc_df_B076Y374ZH/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310818960639&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3742215744901139819&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007361&hvtargid=pla-404279601966&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 So I was thinking of this
JustinXenyx#8854: absolutely no idea, maybe another @Tech Helper is able to help?
Muse#0557: This is me practicing
Muse#0557: I didn't intend to respond to the ping
MythologicalZ#3752: greens used to be good
Muse#0557: But guess I gotta get use to it
MythologicalZ#3752: before controller switch
Jam#0384: I'm not knowledgable on SSD but it seems mediocre
MythologicalZ#3752: or was that blue
Deleted User#0000: Ok you helped me enough anyway @JustinXenyx |
Budget#8265: ^
MythologicalZ#3752: I forget
Budget#8265: New Greens seem to be alright
MythologicalZ#3752: shit drive, avoid
Budget#8265: But im running it as a 360 Drive
MythologicalZ#3752: get su650
JustinXenyx#8854: @Muse You are the underpaid shitty apprentice now LMAO
Jam#0384: I see a BX500 right there dude
Muse#0557: Believe the green drives are just meh
Muse#0557: Middle of the pack
Jam#0384: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT240BX500SSD1Z-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B07G3KRZBX/ref=psdc_430505031_t1_B076Y374ZH
Jam#0384: right there
Jam#0384: BX500
Muse#0557: Crucial is better
Jam#0384: It was on the same page |
TheGeekster#8508: Eh I'd suggest avoiding WD Green, they don't tend to have dram caches, is this going to last you for a while through different computers? If so, I'd honestly suggest a Samsung 860 evo, a decent SSD will last you through multiple computers, a crucial BX500 or MX series are pretty good too
Deleted User#0000: I'm on a tight budget
Jam#0384: It's the same price
Muse#0557: Save a bit for a few £
TheGeekster#8508: how tight is tight?
Jam#0384: as the green
JustinXenyx#8854: like he has basically everything figured out tight @TheGeekster
Muse#0557: It's £5 more for me
Jam#0384: It's the same price for the BX500 what is your point
Deleted User#0000: Around £160/170
TheGeekster#8508: ah if like £5 is an issue, wd green should be fine
Jam#0384: 5p more for twice the size
JustinXenyx#8854: @Jam he means upgrading to something like an 860 evo is not in his budget
Deleted User#0000: Oh alright
MythologicalZ#3752: what is the budget |
Muse#0557: The bx500 is only £5 more
Jam#0384: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT240BX500SSD1Z-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B07G3KRZBX/ref=psdc_430505031_t1_B076Y374ZH @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: 170 quid for case, psu, ram, cpu and ssd
Muse#0557: I honestly dk if it's worth it
Muse#0557: That's an extra stick of ram
Jam#0384: You need more than that to get anything
Muse#0557: If you play your cards right
JustinXenyx#8854: case, psu is basically set already, cpu and ram kinda, ssd is just the thing he is missing
JustinXenyx#8854: @Jam upgrading PC he already has
Jam#0384: Ah ok
Jam#0384: Makes more sense
Jam#0384: Well the BX500 link I sent you a great deal
Deleted User#0000: Well I'm on around £165 including the crucial ssd
Deleted User#0000: So yeah
Deleted User#0000: I can go for it |
Muse#0557: Can I get a breakdown please
Muse#0557: Of what you're buying
Muse#0557: Not a mental one
JustinXenyx#8854: check above @Muse
Deleted User#0000: Yes
Muse#0557: Quote it please
Muse#0557: Thank
Deleted User#0000: It's changed @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: You got a new PSU now too? :Hahahahaha:
Deleted User#0000: Yes
Muse#0557: Just pop down the parts
Muse#0557: And prices
Muse#0557: So everybody is on the same page
Deleted User#0000: I will
Deleted User#0000: It might take some time |
Muse#0557: We have time
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: do you think 32gb ram is enough going forward (gaming)
JustinXenyx#8854: We aren't time travelers, we cannot predict time, we are never going to be able to. We do NOT know how future software works and how it affects your current hardware, we can only estimate on what we know from before
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: on your guesses whats your opinion
Muse#0557: Stop being pretencious
Muse#0557: Justin
Muse#0557: You melodramatic thot
JustinXenyx#8854: I just wanted to say it once and have it budget pin so i can refer to that @Muse
JustinXenyx#8854: saying that, please ping above @Budget
Muse#0557: Ouch
Muse#0557: Anyway Weapon
Muse#0557: It'll be sufficient for a while
Muse#0557: With the next gen of consoles
Muse#0557: Who knows how long
Budget#8265: Pinned a message. |
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: suck it consoles
Budget#8265: Fair enough reason to have it pinned
Budget#8265: Currently 16GB for Gamers
Budget#8265: 32GB for anything more
Budget#8265: Thats my reccomendation
Budget#8265: 8GB is just about passable
JustinXenyx#8854: I would guess it should last a couple years with 16GB basically just becoming the norm and 8GB turning into the minimum i would say 32GB still has a lot of headroom for gaming
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: thanks for the info
Deleted User#0000: Intel core i5 3470 - CEX £28
8gb ddr3 HyperX - £25
Bx500 - £35
Coolermaster 600w psu - £50
Case - £25
Total - £163 |
The price does not include the £30 GTX 780 Windforce OC edition which I payed for with my own money (the rest is getting payed for by parents as a birthday gift (being 14 isnt easy))
Muse#0557: 28 for a 3470
Muse#0557: Get a lower end chip
Muse#0557: 2 secs
tdp2612#3835: yeah thats expensive
MythologicalZ#3752: what psu
Muse#0557: Idk if they are in stock
JustinXenyx#8854: i5 2400 or 2500 should be a bit cheaper
Muse#0557: 2 secs
Deleted User#0000: I have the i3 3220 @Muse
tdp2612#3835: although all of cex has gone up atm becuase of shortages
MythologicalZ#3752: can be anything from a extreme or some shit to their new good stuff
tdp2612#3835: will the board definitely support that i5
Deleted User#0000: Yes |
JustinXenyx#8854: cooler master 600w now? I think the Pure Power 9 600W from before is probably better then that
tdp2612#3835: have you checked
Deleted User#0000: Yes
Muse#0557: You can get Cpus like a 3350p
Muse#0557: For £15
tdp2612#3835: and ye the pure power was good
Deleted User#0000: Ive seen those builds with i7 3rd gen
tdp2612#3835: that doesnt mean anything though
tdp2612#3835: the board might only support certain cpus
tdp2612#3835: so mine will support every 1155 chip, that yours might only do 2 or 3 i3s i5s etc
Deleted User#0000: I know it supports the i5 3470 100%
Deleted User#0000: @JustinXenyx the Coolermaster is £8 cheaper
Muse#0557: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193471456985
Muse#0557: 3450
Muse#0557: Incorrectly labelled |
Deleted User#0000: Turns out the be quiet one needs £8 for postage
tdp2612#3835: orrr
tdp2612#3835: incorrect photo
MythologicalZ#3752: psus are not where you want to cut costs
tdp2612#3835: also brand new account stripping an old oem unit
Muse#0557: Yeh
Muse#0557: Whoops
Deleted User#0000: Yeah at least 1. in CEX i know what I get
2. The motherboard for sure supports the 3470
Deleted User#0000: But I can still see what other ones is supports
Muse#0557: There isn't going to be a different between the cpus
Deleted User#0000: Ok
Muse#0557: I would honestly hold of on the cpu
tdp2612#3835: yeah
Muse#0557: I got a 3450 for £13 post quarantine |
Deleted User#0000: Alright
tdp2612#3835: the i3 is solid enough, wait a couple months
Muse#0557: Pre
Muse#0557: Pre
Muse#0557: Lre
Deleted User#0000: Lucky
Muse#0557: Pre
tdp2612#3835: and save yourself ten or 15 quid
Budget#8265: CeX Shipping is unreliable right now
Budget#8265: all 10 of my orders have been canceled
Muse#0557: 10
Budget#8265: Might be a bit better now lock downs being eased
Muse#0557: What are you ordering
Deleted User#0000: I can hold on to the i3
tdp2612#3835: oh yeah i forgot about mine |
Budget#8265: Stuff for the channel
Deleted User#0000: The Gpu is the thing I want to use the most
Muse#0557: Delivery is also more expensive now
Muse#0557: Which adds up
tdp2612#3835: theyve had my xbox for 3 weeks and ive had no update about testing
Deleted User#0000: First proper Gpu in my life
Muse#0557: An extra £10 or so shipping for those packages budget
Budget#8265: GPU is a nice GPU
Budget#8265: But holy hell is it a power hungry beast
Budget#8265: Just a heads up
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
Budget#8265: Big Kepler is hungry
tdp2612#3835: its a nice card though for the money
Muse#0557: What Gpu is it
tdp2612#3835: 780 windforce |
Muse#0557: Oo
Muse#0557: Yes very hungry
Muse#0557: 600 needed
tdp2612#3835: so the best 780 out of the lot id say
tdp2612#3835: great looking cooler
Budget#8265: I will revisit kepler eventually
Budget#8265: 🙏
Deleted User#0000: I will be cleaning the Gpu before I put it in. I dont think its ever been cleaned
Deleted User#0000: I'll send a picture of it in a sec
Muse#0557: I miss the Windforce
Muse#0557: They got hella sexy towards the end
Muse#0557: The 980 G1
Muse#0557: Is amazing
tdp2612#3835: how did you even get that for 30 though
tdp2612#3835: thats deal of the century |
Muse#0557: Then they turned to really cheap and low quality orange and black coolers
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714209464571527168/20200524_211243.jpg
Budget#8265: Ive seen Kepler sell locally real cheap
tdp2612#3835: could be worse
Deleted User#0000: You cant see it on the picture that much
Muse#0557: I was going to pick up a bunch of 770s for £45 each
Muse#0557: But they just don't sell in pcs
Deleted User#0000: But still quite likely that its been in a system since 2013 and never been touched
Deleted User#0000: If not this Gpu the build wouldn't be as exciting because I would probably Just get a low profile 1050 and new ram but keep it in the standard Optiplex case
Deleted User#0000: I will have all the parts ordered by the upcoming Friday
Muse#0557: A 1050 rn is close to 100
Muse#0557: It's really not worth it considering it's slower than a 670 in most games people play
Deleted User#0000: But I'm only going to actually get them on my birthday (26th June) good thing I live in the north of Scotland cause at least it will take the parts longer to arrive (wont have to think about them being in the house as long)
Muse#0557: Good, live and north Scotland
Muse#0557: Do not belong in the same sentence |
Muse#0557: In facr
Muse#0557: Facr
Muse#0557: Fact
Muse#0557: Live and Scotland
Muse#0557: Is an oxymoron
Deleted User#0000: Are you my English teacher 😂
Muse#0557: No
Muse#0557: Just Scotland is rubbish
Haiden#5286: Imagine living right next to Scotland
Haiden#5286: :epicgamer:
Haiden#5286: In England
Haiden#5286: :epicgamer: :epicgamer:
Muse#0557: Jokes on you
Muse#0557: I dont
Haiden#5286: Imagine living on the same planet as Scotland |
Haiden#5286: :epicgamer:
Muse#0557: F
Haiden#5286: The used market is shite here in scotland
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: thats why we use a tire iron to get the used items we actually want
Haiden#5286: :epicgamer:
Haiden#5286: Imagine indorsing illegal activities
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: its called the barras
Haiden#5286: :epicgamer:
Haiden#5286: Aye go in with £1 come out with a trolly full
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: and the £1 still in your pocket
Haiden#5286: I say a Wii in the barras with a half broken sensor
Haiden#5286: And is the guy that sells Viagra and tabacoo still there?
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: i found guy once selling shemue for the original xbox just the bonus dvd for £15
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: although they actually shut down the barras
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: long ago |
Haiden#5286: Did they?
Haiden#5286: How long?
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: yep shut it before the common wealth games
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: never got as popular since
Haiden#5286: I doubt it because I think I was there I'm 2019 I think it was
TYPEDMEDAL125#9350: blochairn car boot sale is where to go now
Muse#0557: Scottish people :frobotmoment:
Haiden#5286: I'm pretty sure the barras is still open
Haiden#5286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714240339283804241/20181117-114141-largejpg.jpg
Muse#0557: Please stay in Scotland
Haiden#5286: Well I don't want to go anywhere else
Alcyone#2233: There's cunts everywhere. If you don't think so, you are probably one of them.
tdp2612#3835: i bought nfs hot pursuit on 360 from a bloke at a market nearish cov
tdp2612#3835: he was also selling prerolled cigs and hiding them in the engine bay of a hire car focus C max or something iirc
Haiden#5286: > There's cunts everywhere. If you don't think so, you are probably one of them. |
@Alcyone if you think that your probably from England
Clode#2428: Hello guys
Clode#2428: i just wanna know if anyone knows any windows 7 iso
ZeroForsaken#0001: Wait
ZeroForsaken#0001: You tryna pirate windows 7?
Clode#2428: not exactly
Clode#2428: yesterday my grandpa win 7 pc has corromped
Clode#2428: i get to the desktop but cant exaclty use it
tdp2612#3835: give him windows 10
Clode#2428: its a very old pc
ZeroForsaken#0001: Yeah I was gonna say that
Clode#2428: its a pentium d with only 2gb of ddr2 ram
ZeroForsaken#0001: Windows 10 on an old pc is a bad idea
tdp2612#3835: ah
Clode#2428: i mean i can debloat it |
tdp2612#3835: be wholesome and give him some little sff prebuilt
Clode#2428: but hes used to the old win 7
ZeroForsaken#0001: Not sure if this discord condones pirating
Clode#2428: just dm if you can
ZeroForsaken#0001: But I also don’t want you to pay for Windows 7 sooooooo
Clode#2428: just dm
ZeroForsaken#0001: Hold on
ZeroForsaken#0001: You’re trying to restore the pc?
Clode#2428: thank you so much
ZeroForsaken#0001: Can you boot?
Clode#2428: yes
Clode#2428: and no
Clode#2428: basically i can acess only the desktop wallpaper
ZeroForsaken#0001: Ah, you’re probably gonna need to load the iso onto a thumb drive
ZeroForsaken#0001: Can you do that? |
Clode#2428: yeah
Clode#2428: i just dont know where to find the iso
ZeroForsaken#0001: Hm alright
Clode#2428: maybe is a better idea to dm
ZeroForsaken#0001: I’ll dm you right now, just give me a second
Clode#2428: thank you so much
Deleted User#0000: @JustinXenyx so should I get the Be Quiet psu instead of the coolermaster?
Deleted User#0000: I'll check once again if the be quiet is still in stock
Deleted User#0000: It's still in stock
Muse#0557: The Be Quiet is a nicer unit youll be fine with which ever one is in stock
Deleted User#0000: Ok, I can't order it until Friday so I hope nobody else buys it. Meanwhile I'll try to find some good deals on ram
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Could someone tell me whether I should be using l2 or l3 for my vpn?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I want my friends to be able to access my network so that they can ssh to a VM that I've made for them
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and I'm not sure which I should give them
"Cobs"#1150: Either setup a site-site vpn or use openVPN on your server |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: site to site
wiryfuture🦀#1706: is that l2 or l3? @"Cobs"
"Cobs"#1150: unsure off the top of my head
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I have softether vpn set up because it's big sex but it also has an openvpn server built in (and it gives you two files, one for l2 and one for l3)
"Cobs"#1150: never heard of that before
"Cobs"#1150: i just use pfsense for all my vpn needs whether that be site to site or openvpn
Muse#0557: Watching tutorials is always a good idea
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @"Cobs" softether can get past china
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 😎
"Cobs"#1150: site to site is layer 3 iirc
"Cobs"#1150: since its ipsec
TheGeekster#8508: If you want an easy bog standard way of setting up site 2 site, and client full tunnels i'd suggest looking at "Untangle" for your router, it's powerful, has a lot of free features, and it's open vpn implementation means it automatically creates installers for clients, site2site, and everything just "works"
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I already have a vpn server
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and it just works
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I just want to know if I give my mate l2 or l3 |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: site to site is 3, yh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: the ip one
TheGeekster#8508: yeah should work
"Cobs"#1150: if youve done pptp, youll need layer 2
"Cobs"#1150: if youve done ipsec
"Cobs"#1150: layer 3
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I have both
"Cobs"#1150: well
"Cobs"#1150: just remember, PPTP does NOT encrypt traffic at all
"Cobs"#1150: plain text authentication for pretty much everything
"Cobs"#1150: use your ipsec/l2tp layer 3 installer
"Cobs"#1150: if you have PPTP enabled, disable it.
mish#5687: In the Pop_OS! live-USB, I get an issue where I can only left click once and it never registers again. Right clicking works well.
Mouse: HyperX Pulsefire Surge
Baus#4058: Hi guys, if anyone got a couple of minutes for a little help |
Baus#4058: for some reason every couple of days windows starts acting strangely
Baus#4058: file explorer stops working, task manager and device manager too
Baus#4058: nearly everything windows related stops working but everything not from windows remains completely normal except for drivers
Baus#4058: if i format the drive and reinstall windows it works great until a couple of days later when it happens again
MythologicalZ#3752: Sounds like a drive going bad then
MythologicalZ#3752: or maybe your install iso is fucky
Baus#4058: i tried two different drives
Baus#4058: tried both of them with Linux they worked perfectly
Baus#4058: got the iso from windows website and used rufus to make a boot usb
MythologicalZ#3752: have you checked the drives health?
Baus#4058: yea ran check disk on them no errors reported
Baus#4058: if it does help event viewer is reporting that "the connected devices platform services terminated unexpectedly"
Baus#4058: and a couple of corrupt log files for windows home group
"Cobs"#1150: > In the Pop_OS! live-USB, I get an issue where I can only left click once and it never registers again. Right clicking works well.
> Mouse: HyperX Pulsefire Surge |
@mish run updates and check your drivers, test with another mouse
"Cobs"#1150: > Hi guys, if anyone got a couple of minutes for a little help
@Baus Install HDTune Pro (has a free trial) and run full deep sector scan. See if ANY sectors come back as bad.
"Cobs"#1150: if they do, run check disk and have it attempt to reallocate and repair any damaged sectors
mish#5687: @"Cobs" nvm, fixed it
"Cobs"#1150: awesome
ShidoPixel#4650: I really would like to buy a vs 450 but it's unavailable
ShidoPixel#4650: So umm what's the best below 40€ psu
tdp2612#3835: yeah no
tdp2612#3835: even the grey vs are shit tier
tdp2612#3835: youd be better off getting a used CS
ShidoPixel#4650: Used is not an option
ShidoPixel#4650: @tdp2612
Jam#0384: None
Jam#0384: don't buy any shit PSU |
Jam#0384: save money
ShidoPixel#4650: Well then I'm fucked
Deleted User#0000: what would you guys price a r9 295x2 at ?
BigPierogi#3368: about the price of a r9 295x2
BigPierogi#3368: :epicgamer:
Deleted User#0000: got me there
tdp2612#3835: :epicgamer:
tdp2612#3835: id pay like 90/100
Deleted User#0000: u serious that AMD cpu's use another type of boot system and ill have to wipe my ssd that had an intel installed?
tdp2612#3835: wut
tdp2612#3835: i used an install from an amd system in an intel system
Deleted User#0000: i cant boot
tdp2612#3835: ive never heard that before
Deleted User#0000: from intel to amd
Deleted User#0000: not the opposite |
Deleted User#0000: i tried changing boot options no luck
tdp2612#3835: ive literally never heard of that
tdp2612#3835: youve probably fucked something else up
tdp2612#3835: like shit tons of people are moving from old intel to am4
tdp2612#3835: and theres not swarms of people saying their windows has broken
tdp2612#3835: where did you hear about this 'different type of boot system'
Deleted User#0000: i tried to format an amd laptop once but it didnt work with the normal boot usbs i used
Alcyone#2233: they boot the same, windows installs dont always work across platforms though
Alcyone#2233: try downloading the install tool, booting the usb and select repair. it may load the proper drivers
Deleted User#0000: also
whats the difference between w10 pro and enterprise?
Deleted User#0000: i already got an usb working here
Alcyone#2233: i meant on the existing windows install
Deleted User#0000: oh
Deleted User#0000: nah |
Deleted User#0000: im gonna wipe it anyway
Deleted User#0000: i was just gonna save some documents n stuff
Deleted User#0000: has anyone ever had AMD desktop ram?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: stuff like this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714554154382786560/amd-memory-slide7.png
Deleted User#0000: It's like oem stuff
Deleted User#0000: It's called amd radeon memory
tdp2612#3835: Oh yikes
Deleted User#0000: just bought in a joblot earlier today
Deleted User#0000: so was wonder if it was rare or not
Deleted User#0000: as it's the first time I've had amd ram
tdp2612#3835: I dont think its rare, i think its just worthless
Deleted User#0000: yeah it looks worthless
Deleted User#0000: just a bit strange to see AMD oem memory lol
Deleted User#0000: I pretty sure they dont make that ram anymore
Deleted User#0000: oh well, I've owned AMD ram so thats quite a cool statement I guess aha |
Deleted User#0000: There was also nVidia sli ram https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714555100932079707/ocz_nvidia_sli_ready_ram_37264.jpg
Deleted User#0000: ew
Deleted User#0000: This one is rare though
Deleted User#0000: looks like OCZ ram but green
Deleted User#0000: It is
Deleted User#0000: literally the same heat sinks lol
Deleted User#0000: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/392794436569?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=392794436569&targetid=876737317573&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007361&poi=&campaignid=9794971113&mkgroupid=98649235863&rlsatarget=pla-876737317573&abcId=1139126&merchantid=6995734&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItvih_drP6QIVRbDtCh2u7Qo6EAQYASABEgI8uPD_BwE
Deleted User#0000: Would get this but I'm getting parts for my main build
Deleted User#0000: Probs doesnt work if its OCZ ram tho
Deleted User#0000: that shit dies so much
Deleted User#0000: That could be a good video idea suggestion
Deleted User#0000: yeah literally what I thought
Deleted User#0000: I'll try
Deleted User#0000: A completely AMD system Vs a completely Nvidia system
Deleted User#0000: or a complete intel system |
Deleted User#0000: as you can use Intel mobos, intel ram and intel cases
Deleted User#0000: and even Intel storage aha
Deleted User#0000: Yeah that would be nice
Deleted User#0000: The build would be interesting to see but then Intel igpus suck
Deleted User#0000: yeah that's true
Lumaterian#3557: I had some AMD RAM
Lumaterian#3557: it's rebranded Patriot
Lumaterian#3557: it worked ok™️
Alcyone#2233: there was the phenom amd ram, that had a different kind of xmp
Alcyone#2233: https://www.techpowerup.com/169317/ecs-first-to-add-amd-memory-profile-support
ahh AMP
Deleted User#0000: any explanation for cpu temp falling to 40 then jumping to 52 then falling again and jumping in a cycle?
Alcyone#2233: cpu usage be like that
Lumaterian#3557: ^ |
TheFifthAce#4128: my cpu does that, its normal
Jam#0384: @Deleted User If you're still open to that purchase we discussed a month back I'd be able to best in August
Jam#0384: Still interested in the jet and 7800
Deleted User#0000: @Jam yeah I've still got them mate
Deleted User#0000: just chilling on my shelf
Jam#0384: :lhand: :Peter: :rhand: me in August
The United States Air Force#7904: How bad is raidmax psu
tdp2612#3835: dont do it
tdp2612#3835: oh wait
tdp2612#3835: it depends which model
tdp2612#3835: apparently they make some really high end stuff
tdp2612#3835: but also dogshit VS orange level firestarters
Deleted User#0000: how do i setup raid system on b450 gaming plus?
Deleted User#0000: when i choose it, all bootable drives DISAPPEAR from the boot selector when using F11
Deleted User#0000: and i cant do anything unless going back to CSM |
TheFifthAce#4128: first off
TheFifthAce#4128: why are you using raid
TheFifthAce#4128: you shouldn't
TheFifthAce#4128: there is no benefit
Deleted User#0000: 2 480gb ssds
Deleted User#0000: oh
tdp2612#3835: oof
TheFifthAce#4128: in fact you lose performance by doing raid
Deleted User#0000: the speed increased when i done it on an intel board
TheFifthAce#4128: latency goes up significantly
TheFifthAce#4128: artificial speed tests are not real world performance
tdp2612#3835: unless you want to only get 480gb, speed wont increase
TheFifthAce#4128: game load times and windows responsiveness will get worse, not better
tdp2612#3835: like running striped wont make anything faster
TheFifthAce#4128: dont bother with raid unless it's purely for data protection on a server or something |
tdp2612#3835: itll just mean youll lose all your data in a fuck up
TheFifthAce#4128: and even then just unraid
Deleted User#0000: oh sad, but ok
tdp2612#3835: just use ones as boot drive, and one to put your most used games on
TheFifthAce#4128: sata ssds are more than fast enough for literally every consumer application
TheFifthAce#4128: dont use raid
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/714660635752923137/image0.jpg
mi3night#2562: Help?
mi3night#2562: Nvme ssd ain’t booting
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Msi afterburner doesn't let me lower the max temp, every time I try to it just goes back to what it was before
Shocked#4615: hello is anybody up
Shocked#4615: i need some help here
Shocked#4615: im trying to delete an executable java script file and it wont work
Shocked#4615: nvm ty anywaay
Jam#0384: No problem |
"Cobs"#1150: > Msi afterburner doesn't let me lower the max temp, every time I try to it just goes back to what it was before
@Xbox 360 1953 Not all GPU's support it, make sure you don't have any other conflicting software installed that could be trying to control it
"Cobs"#1150: > in fact you lose performance by doing raid
@TheFifthAce i'll keep my eye on you if you go round saying this sorta stuff 😉 Tho I agree, RAID 0 is a bad idea.
TheFifthAce#4128: @"Cobs" I mean for normal users I'm not wrong
"Cobs"#1150: you sort of are tho
"Cobs"#1150: raid will only lose you performance if you misconfigure it or go down a more redundant route
Confuniverse#6268: Hey guys, a friend of mine wants to join the PCMR, but he is super super strapped for cash, like most of us in lockdown lol! He's got himself an old Dell office machine with one of the old core 2 duos in it. The pc still runs ok the CPU's doing alright. But he's wanting to throw a GPU in it, its just a super temporary solution, as he's going to build a new machine in the holiday season 2020. But to tide him over, does anyone have any super budget GPU suggestions for a measly £20-30??? Yes you read that right... Were not talking AAA titles by the way, just MOBA's, Minecraft etc.
JustinXenyx#8854: First of all, i 100% appreciate you putting everything needed into one sentence, that's something others could take example from lol
Confuniverse#6268: thanks 🙂
JustinXenyx#8854: To the question at hand, for 20-30 quid you should be able to find plenty of HD7770s that would do the job quite well for the stuff he wants to play
BigPierogi#3368: i found a hd7850 for 30 usd, whatever that is in pounds
JustinXenyx#8854: Although i would recommend getting a Core 2 Quad as well, given that those usually run you under 10 quid and massively improve the performance even in less demanding titles
BigPierogi#3368: also
BigPierogi#3368: if its a old dell office machine |
BigPierogi#3368: does it have an 6/8 pin for gpu power?
JustinXenyx#8854: I doubt it to be quite fair
Confuniverse#6268: > does it have an 6/8 pin for gpu power?
@BigPierogi thats a good shout, i didnt think to ask him that... lol
Confuniverse#6268: kinda important lol!
BigPierogi#3368: if you have the model of his pc that would also be good
JustinXenyx#8854: Depends on what card he ends up putting in, a simple 7770 does have a 6pin PCIe plug but barely draws any power from it, so even the more simpler SATA to 6pin adapters should suffice
Confuniverse#6268: yes, i have the model, i'll post here 1 second.
Confuniverse#6268: https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-vostro-220s-core-2-duo-e7300-2-66-ghz-monitor-none-series/
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh jesus, that changes the outlook quite a bit lol
Confuniverse#6268: the hard drive has been upgraded but these are the specs out the factory
Confuniverse#6268: lol!
Confuniverse#6268: ikr!
BigPierogi#3368: im assuming it only wants low profile gpus
BigPierogi#3368: or accepts |
JustinXenyx#8854: Correct
Confuniverse#6268: yes
Confuniverse#6268: although with a bit of messing about it could accept a bigger one
Confuniverse#6268: were not fussed about taking an angle grinder to the case
JustinXenyx#8854: or just leaving the side panel off entirely lol
tdp2612#3835: eh theres no point
Confuniverse#6268: yeh
tdp2612#3835: other than saving a bit of money i guess
tdp2612#3835: like its not like a lp 750ti will be a bottleneck
JustinXenyx#8854: the budget tho is a bottleneck lol
tdp2612#3835: if the board will take any quad that would be a big step up
Confuniverse#6268: yer, i've tried to convince him to spend like an extre £10-£20 for something like a 750ti
Confuniverse#6268: but nope
Confuniverse#6268: £30 is his max budget. and apparently thats pushing it.
JustinXenyx#8854: i mean to be fair, if he is planning to build a new pc later on, upgrading this one seems kinda trivial |
Confuniverse#6268: yer, its just at the minute he can't even run minecraft
Confuniverse#6268: so
JustinXenyx#8854: i'm going to assume the machine has more than 2GB of RAM, since otherwise it would be pretty much a dead end in 2020
Confuniverse#6268: yeh.
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd say for the 30 quid: nab a cheap Core 2 Quad, get something basic like an HD8490 and get more RAM if the machine is still on 2GB
Confuniverse#6268: he;s doubled the ram
tdp2612#3835: https://www.dell.com/community/Desktops-General-Read-Only/Vostro-220-motherboard-and-processors-questions/td-p/3380986
tdp2612#3835: and with an 8300 being only a few quid it doesnt hurt to try
Confuniverse#6268: > i'd say for the 30 quid: nab a cheap Core 2 Quad, get something basic like an HD8490 and get more RAM if the machine is still on 2GB
@JustinXenyx sounds like a plan
Confuniverse#6268: thanks for help!
Confuniverse#6268: a true budget build 😛
JustinXenyx#8854: like, worst case the C2Q doesn't work and you'd still have a decent upgrade from the shitty intel gma stuff inside
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how tf do I set up pulseway on xcp-ng (/xenserver)
Deleted User#0000: I am genuinely confused. Is this 16gb ram in total or 8 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-2-Gb-DDR3-Corsair-XMS3-DESKTOP-Ram-1600-mhz/124188989698?hash=item1cea3d9902%3Ag%3AtWsAAOSwXGVeup5B&LH_BIN=1 |
MythologicalZ#3752: 8 total
MythologicalZ#3752: 2gb sticks
Deleted User#0000: oh alright I see it now
Deleted User#0000: I did a small brain thing. When I saw 4 x 2 I automatically thought it was 4gb of ram x2
Muse#0557: its not pc knowledge
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah title is confusing
Muse#0557: its 2nd grade maths
Sentient Potato#6003: I heard 2x4 and thought ram once
MythologicalZ#3752: normally I would put 2gb x4
Muse#0557: ._>
Muse#0557: wut
Muse#0557: its simple math
Lumaterian#3557: I usually put something like 8GB (4x2GB)
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah something like that
Deleted User#0000: @Muse It's simple maths but it didn't specify which was which (I know picture) but I've seen people putting something different on the pictures to their listings |
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