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mish#5687: men mish#5687: help me please mish#5687: is coolbits value 28 good mish#5687: will it destroy my nvidia drivers under linux Lady Mipha#0611: @Jam what do you think of this lcd https://productz.com/en/philips-170b5cb/p/y1AKl#full-specs Jam#0384: Pretty mediocre, even for it’s age. Jam#0384: How much are you paying for it though? Lady Mipha#0611: $0 @Jam Luggy#9237: whats free is the best xd Jam#0384: Oh then it’s fine. Jam#0384: But it’s really not ideal to play games on Jam#0384: But it’s probably fine Lady Mipha#0611: ok Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: sooooooo does anyone know how much power the 7121A00400G varient of the R7 250 consumes?
deterdzeno#8387: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717418066199183410/unknown.png deterdzeno#8387: @Takumi Fuzzywara Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717418855353548871/unknown.png Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: this? deterdzeno#8387: yes lol its a r7 250 Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: it's not dual slot deterdzeno#8387: yeah sorry deterdzeno#8387: it should be the same TDP deterdzeno#8387: You should be fine with a 350-400W supply @Takumi Fuzzywara Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: I mean Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: I'm more concerned about the power limit on my Dell optiplex 3010 sff Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: Like Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: On the pcie slot Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: It says on the documentation that its 50 watts deterdzeno#8387: should still work
Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: Do you know anyone who has a R7 250? wiryfuture🦀#1706: how much should I go up to on this before price > value https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-380-Dual-Core-CPU-E5300-2-60GHz-8GB-RAM-Desktop-RCWHF16JE/264743834549 wiryfuture🦀#1706: top bid rn is £9 wiryfuture🦀#1706: well "is" (thanks ebay) Alcyone#2233: i woulldnt buy a oem 775 slim tower at all Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: same Takumi Fuzzywara#0086: i mean i got my optiplex's for free and those have 2nd and 3rd gen i3's xV JustinXenyx#8854: 10 quid max @wiryfuture🦀 JustinXenyx#8854: oh wait that fucker has 8GB of RAM in it JustinXenyx#8854: 15-20 then JustinXenyx#8854: that would cover RAM value alone and would leave you with a nice SFF rig wiryfuture🦀#1706: yes wiryfuture🦀#1706: @JustinXenyx I'd prolly use psu, ram and case for i3 2100 or something JustinXenyx#8854: that would not work out lol @wiryfuture🦀 JustinXenyx#8854: RAM is DDR2, PSU is proprietary and the case is BTX
JustinXenyx#8854: so to use the case alone you would have to do some heavy modding wiryfuture🦀#1706: whatever as long as it boots wiryfuture🦀#1706: lol Xbox 360 1953#2640: you sure its ddr2? Xbox 360 1953#2640: my pal has like a 780 and its ddr3 JustinXenyx#8854: hella sure it is ddr2, lists clock as 800mhz wiryfuture🦀#1706: ^ JustinXenyx#8854: and most of those dells were ddr2 JustinXenyx#8854: the ddr3 ones are the newer revisions Xbox 360 1953#2640: ah, that makes sense wiryfuture🦀#1706: does this support SATA or is it IDE? @JustinXenyx wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think it does because of the drive it comes with wiryfuture🦀#1706: but what does this mean? ``` Storage Controller: Intel Corporation (0x8086), NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] (0x27c0)
Storage Controller: Intel Corporation (0x8086), 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (0x27df) ``` wiryfuture🦀#1706: IDE mode?? Alcyone#2233: that is gonna be a g31 or g33 notherboard with ddr2 wiryfuture🦀#1706: what does ide mode mean on the SATA controller JustinXenyx#8854: to simplify JustinXenyx#8854: IDE mode dumbs a sata drive down to function like an ide drive would JustinXenyx#8854: AHCI mode basically allows for the full feature-set of SATA wiryfuture🦀#1706: why would you want IDE mode? JustinXenyx#8854: compatibility JustinXenyx#8854: Back in the day AHCI support was kinda rare and since IDE was the more adopted thing this just worked out for everyone JustinXenyx#8854: It doesn't even penalize the speeds a whole lot iirc wiryfuture🦀#1706: okay wiryfuture🦀#1706: god dammit I just got bot-bid wiryfuture🦀#1706: I can't win this with my manual shite
wiryfuture🦀#1706: they always win by 50p wiryfuture🦀#1706: actually cancer wiryfuture🦀#1706: okay wiryfuture🦀#1706: I won the one with the e7500 JustinXenyx#8854: i'm figuring you're y***7 JustinXenyx#8854: because that 5 second shit is unreal wiryfuture🦀#1706: oh yeah wiryfuture🦀#1706: fucking bullshit wiryfuture🦀#1706: again, what is this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717465401218302022/unknown.png wiryfuture🦀#1706: excuse me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717465517430145094/unknown.png wiryfuture🦀#1706: ofc what am I saying this is completely normal and makes sense wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm struggling to find 4GB sticks of ddr2 wiryfuture🦀#1706: oh ffs DarknessFalls229#2286: should you reveal your ebay username like that @wiryfuture🦀 ? DarknessFalls229#2286: Also, non server 4GB DDR2 sticks are pretty damn rare
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what the fuck are you going to do with my ebay username? DarknessFalls229#2286: idk, just a precaution dude wiryfuture🦀#1706: brute force my password out of like 2^32 - 1 or something wiryfuture🦀#1706: yep, ddr2 dimms are £140 for a pair of 4gb wiryfuture🦀#1706: literally all the listings below £140 are "for amd" wiryfuture🦀#1706: feels scummy? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717474726137561118/unknown.png Muse#0557: Imagine spending £19 to get something the size of 2 pepperamis to your front door D.D.M#8226: Yeah thats just scummy D.D.M#8226: Just for ddr2 D.D.M#8226: 27$ boog#9487: So I put a 110v power source on my bike I can test stuff while dumpster diving at the ewaste center https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717488995139059743/20200602_155509.jpg Muse#0557: 🙂:frobotmoment: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717517568008519730/Hierarchy_V1.PNG Muse#0557: @Tech Helper Anything need to be changed? Racey#8574: he needs clearance to make sure he made this accurately Xbox 360 1953#2640: reading midrange upper and lower high end is a bit annoying due to the colors
Budget#8265: Yeah the text can be a bit hard to read byt looks nice TheFifthAce#4128: 1650 should not be next to a 1060 TheFifthAce#4128: 1060 should be next to 980/1660 Budget#8265: 1650 is pretty close to 1060 3GB Jam#0384: 980 should be next to 580 Jam#0384: and 1060 TheFifthAce#4128: the 1060 absolutely thrashes the 1650 wym hamish Budget#8265: Also HD 7950 is a tier above RX460, and HD7870, etc... Budget#8265: @TheFifthAce Was forgetting that the super isnt the only 1650 Budget#8265: Cause am odit Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717518647085629500/unknown.png Budget#8265: Am renderin video TheFifthAce#4128: vibe TheFifthAce#4128: 1650 should be next to 1050 ti Muse#0557: so just move rx 580 and 1060?
TheFifthAce#4128: 1060 should move up a rank next to the 1660 Muse#0557: up a tier Jam#0384: honestly Budget#8265: 7870 to 7770 is a huge leap Budget#8265: infact hd 7870 performs like an RX460.560 Budget#8265: whcih is around GTX1050 Budget#8265: I like the concept Jam#0384: I would put the 780Ti in Upper Low end Budget#8265: But yeah it needs a clean up Jam#0384: And include an asterisk Muse#0557: the 780 ti is basically a 970 Jam#0384: Not in most games Jam#0384: Kepler Jam#0384: It performs more closely to a GTX 1050 in most stuff newer than 2015 Muse#0557: it is much stronger that everything already in upper low
Muse#0557: :/ Muse#0557: right 2 seconds then fellas TheFifthAce#4128: the 780 ti gets fucked by an rx 470 Budget#8265: Kepelr aged like potato Muse#0557: true true Budget#8265: I can also say tier wise Jam#0384: Except in unreal Engine 4 and frostbite Muse#0557: too much tyc Jam#0384: It does pretty well in those Jam#0384: that's why i said include an asterisk Budget#8265: HD7870 R9 270/270X, and RX460/560 all perform within a close margin of eachother (Around 1050 for refrence) Muse#0557: cant get everything right.. didnt do too badly, it gets hard when youre comparing 10 cards at once Jam#0384: and give details on all kepler cards JustinXenyx#8854: that 780Ti does not belong in lower midrange anymore tbh Muse#0557: ill hop on it
Jam#0384: Upper Lowend as I said right Justin JustinXenyx#8854: yup JustinXenyx#8854: kepler gets mass fucked by drivers JustinXenyx#8854: like a 780ti is more like a hot 1050Ti with 1gb less VRAM and that is assuming the drivers semi-work Muse#0557: what about the 390x Muse#0557: wasnt sure about that either Jam#0384: I'd say middle midrange or lower midrange JustinXenyx#8854: 390x is essentially 580/570 territory Jam#0384: The 280X should be with the 1050Ti. Jam#0384: btw Muse#0557: it is Jam#0384: and 7970 should as well Muse#0557: 7970 Muse#0557: it is Jam#0384: If you're making this for noobs
Jam#0384: both should be there Jam#0384: they dont know it is the same card Budget#8265: 280X, HD7970, and R9 285/380 all perform similarly Budget#8265: But Tonga has better Memory Compression and Drivers so pulls ahead in newer titles Budget#8265: (Aswell as Freesync) JustinXenyx#8854: i feel like V56 vs V64 is not enough of a difference to make the V56 mid range Muse#0557: move the 56 up JustinXenyx#8854: either V56 gets upper midrange end or V64 also gets kicked down to midrange Muse#0557: or 64 down Muse#0557: id say 56 up Jam#0384: V56 should be where the 1070 is JustinXenyx#8854: yeah i would go with moving the V56 up Jam#0384: at the very least JustinXenyx#8854: i feel like you should also have seperation for each 1060s (3GB and 6GB) Jam#0384: Yes that is crucial
Muse#0557: they are in the same tier anyways tho JustinXenyx#8854: because the 3GB is more upper low end territory in that list and the 6GB can stay where it iS Jam#0384: Nope Jam#0384: they arent same tier Jam#0384: Also, you should be sure to do the same for cards like 960 JustinXenyx#8854: Nah the 3GB gets fucking hammered if you cannot compensate the lack of VRAM with real RAM Jam#0384: the 4GB one is way better Muse#0557: do i also knock the 770 down Jam#0384: basically in a different league JustinXenyx#8854: I would give the kepler cards an asterisk and move them down Muse#0557: because its closer to a 7950 Muse#0557: than a 1060 3gb JustinXenyx#8854: like saying *better by one category if drivers would work/if drivers were optimized properly Jam#0384: All of them should be moved down one except the 750ti Jam#0384: 750ti is basically better than a 760
Jam#0384: in new titles JustinXenyx#8854: like i said, give them an asterisk and move all of the kepler cards down JustinXenyx#8854: because without proper optimized drivers they all get flunked Jam#0384: And by the asterisk I would say, Performance Improved in certain games and older titles. Jam#0384: or sub games with engines JustinXenyx#8854: > like saying *better by one category if drivers would work/if drivers were optimized properly i feel like this fits the bill better JustinXenyx#8854: like saying it WOULD be better if the drivers were there Jam#0384: The chart is for noobs though Jam#0384: also Jam#0384: It's really just a shit architecture Jam#0384: only 50% of the blame should fall on drivers JustinXenyx#8854: again, if drivers would work or would be optimized properly covers that already imo JustinXenyx#8854: but if we wanna make this noobfriendly lets just reword it a bit Jam#0384: Too vague
Jam#0384: its going to bring up questions Jam#0384: "How do i get the drivers to work properly?* Jam#0384: etc Jam#0384: That's not what you want Jam#0384: you want it to answer questions, not bring more up JustinXenyx#8854: "due to age of architecture this performs better in older games but lacks performance in newer titles because nvidia neglected these cards" Muse#0557: *Drastically Increased Peformance in Pre 2016 Games Muse#0557: Seems simple enough Muse#0557: Ik its real simple Muse#0557: and not what we wanna hear Muse#0557: but at a glance Muse#0557: for plebs Jam#0384: I would just say increased Performance in Select Titles/Game Engines Jam#0384: That's the best wording JustinXenyx#8854: Jam that is similarly vague imo
Jam#0384: It's better JustinXenyx#8854: they will ask what titles etc Jam#0384: Make a list Jam#0384: of examples JustinXenyx#8854: if we wanna make this noob friendly, make it proper noob friendly Muse#0557: A list would be too much Muse#0557: hmmm Muse#0557: Do i move rx 550 up to mid low Jam#0384: no JustinXenyx#8854: RX550 should stay where it is Jam#0384: you need to clarify RX Jam#0384: there are GTX cards with the same name JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, RX and GTX/RTX Jam#0384: Which are much worse JustinXenyx#8854: also, maybe for starters add a thing at the top for "cards you should not even consider" where we include cards like the Titan RTX etc etc
Muse#0557: I tried it Muse#0557: and it made it hella messy Jam#0384: Muse, make it a bigger image Jam#0384: and longer JustinXenyx#8854: Different solution: make image bigger and divide by Nvidia and AMD Xbox 360 1953#2640: What if It was made into like a spreadsheet? Jam#0384: It's not rocket science Muse#0557: i like justins idea Jam#0384: spreadsheet will deter noobs JustinXenyx#8854: @Xbox 360 1953 I feel like that would work but isn't really noob friendly Muse#0557: nobody wants a spreadsheet Xbox 360 1953#2640: fair JustinXenyx#8854: spreadsheets are for us tech geeks JustinXenyx#8854: a noob will kill themselves if they have to look through an old ass style spreadshift JustinXenyx#8854: *exaggeratingly speaking*
Jam#0384: Also move the 950 down one Jam#0384: the 750ti and 950 are the same thing Jam#0384: pretty much JustinXenyx#8854: actually i would move the 750Ti up Jam#0384: actually yeah Jam#0384: makes more sense Jam#0384: and add the GT 1030 Jam#0384: to that same category Muse#0557: How did I forget the 1030 Muse#0557: I'll move the 750 ti up Jam#0384: 750ti should be above 760 ironically Jam#0384: might want to mention that the 750ti uses a newer architecture too Muse#0557: They are in the same tier Jam#0384: 760 performs slower Muse#0557: Order is set out to make it easy to read
Muse#0557: NVIDIA first Muse#0557: Sorted by age Muse#0557: Roughly JustinXenyx#8854: Actually, i might remove cards like the 660, 660Ti, 670 and 680 since realistically no one would buy them unless proper cheap and they knew what they were doing Muse#0557: True Muse#0557: Might declog things Muse#0557: But then again Muse#0557: The 660 isn't an awful buy Muse#0557: Neither is 670 JustinXenyx#8854: OH FUCK YES IT IS Jam#0384: yes it is Muse#0557: Atm Muse#0557: Usually stay away Jam#0384: At any moment Muse#0557: But with a 7870 sometimes being double rn
JustinXenyx#8854: after 7 years that thing can stay dead as fuck JustinXenyx#8854: let it die in peace Jam#0384: 7870 isnt sometimes trouble at all JustinXenyx#8854: fuck the 660, honestly Jam#0384: the GCN cards drivers arent having issues Jam#0384: It's mostly newer cards Jam#0384: With some exception Muse#0557: True true Jam#0384: The Kepler cards aren't good at all Muse#0557: I meant cost wise atm Muse#0557: That's all Jam#0384: They're not worth the $30 list price Jam#0384: to be honest Jam#0384: I'd pay $10 for a 660 personally Muse#0557: Do I ad the gtx 570 and 480
Muse#0557: Since budgets videos Jam#0384: no Muse#0557: Might encourage it Jam#0384: most people don't buy those cards Muse#0557: Just to show how bad they are JustinXenyx#8854: I feel like we should have one for modern cards and one for legacy cards like those JustinXenyx#8854: Would make clarification much simpler Muse#0557: It's sort of a buyers guide Jam#0384: me using 2004 nvidia card Muse#0557: So having things split Jam#0384: :crome: Muse#0557: Is not ideal Muse#0557: For comparing JustinXenyx#8854: I mean only for legacy cards that not the average joe would consider Jam#0384: this shouldnt be used as a buyers guide at all
Jam#0384: It's a performance comparison, and a very brief one Jam#0384: buyers have to look at market value Jam#0384: some of the cards on that list are terrible value Muse#0557: Not a guide Muse#0557: Wrong word Muse#0557: Very wrong word Jam#0384: including the cheapest ones Muse#0557: 2 seconds gotta do a tedious part Muse#0557: Do any other cards need adding Racey#8574: I saw "Fuck the 660" Racey#8574: I'd like to let you know I agree Muse#0557: @Jam @JustinXenyx Gonna be doing a tedious part so do anyother cards need adding before I do that? Jam#0384: none off the top of my head Jam#0384: but make sure to separate 1060 6gb and 3gb, and there also a 960 4gb and 2gb JustinXenyx#8854: Nah i don't feel like any "beginner" cards are missing, i would only suggest to yoink 600 series cards out and fix some of the seperations
Jam#0384: there are 3gb and 6gb 780tis and 280x but its not really a huge deal Muse#0557: Have done Jam#0384: so dont include those Muse#0557: I doubt anybody is considering a 6gb 780 Muse#0557: Also no dual Gpu cards Jam#0384: thats why i said not to include them Jam#0384: I was just mentioning Jam#0384: OH Jam#0384: TITAN and TITAN X Maxwell Jam#0384: TITAN should be classed with 780ti, and maxwell should be around a 1070 i thinkkk? Jam#0384: a little faster maybe Muse#0557: Is it worth adding them JustinXenyx#8854: not really Jam#0384: yes people may see titan and want it Muse#0557: I mean they are basically the same as the generation flagship
Jam#0384: but it's good to put to show how terrible value they are JustinXenyx#8854: those cards would more belong in the "you usually should not consider these cards" Muse#0557: I'll add them Muse#0557: Be back in 10-20minutes then Muse#0557: If anything pops into your heads ping me Jam#0384: if people see theyre the same as a far cheaper card and perform roughly the same, common sense should tell them not to @JustinXenyx Jam#0384: thats exactly why you should include it Jam#0384: to deter from buying Jam#0384: theyre basically collectors item Muse#0557: My WiFi is just perishing TheFifthAce#4128: also make sure to put geforce 210 in high tier top end TheFifthAce#4128: its the best gpu after all Muse#0557: Tempting Muse#0557: Maybe I'll make frobot hold a palit gt 210 or 7100 Muse#0557: Or something
Lady Mipha#0611: :epicgamer: Muse#0557: @Jam https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717528100048732262/unknown.png Muse#0557: This is the cleanest way i could think of Xbox 360 1953#2640: if text is all green or red its easier to read Muse#0557: Lemme try Muse#0557: I don't find it hard to read Muse#0557: But idk how other people will find it Lady Mipha#0611: the white letters don’t stand out against the pink background Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717529079783620629/unknown.png Muse#0557: This is quicker also Muse#0557: so im fine with it Deleted User#0000: anyone informed if valorant now runs with msi dragon center? Deleted User#0000: my pc literally depends on it Jam#0384: better Deleted User#0000: what?
Racey#8574: use opposite colours to the backgrounds Jam#0384: @Deleted User 1. I don't know what msi dragon center is or why you need it Jam#0384: 2. wtf is valorant lmao Sentient Potato#6003: Pretty sure it’s the latest craze Jam#0384: isnt that a new game like abortnite or something Sentient Potato#6003: Like that game but an rpg Jam#0384: two genres that are meh to me Jam#0384: rpg is iffy usually i dont care sometimes i love Muse#0557: Jam did somebody say to move the fury upto 1070 lecel Muse#0557: Level Muse#0557: Or am I mad Jam#0384: fury is closer to a 1060 aint it Muse#0557: I think so Jam#0384: i dont really know anything about fury Muse#0557: Ima leave it where it is
Muse#0557: Just thought maybe somebody said it Muse#0557: No point gave the Fury x being seperate Muse#0557: Oh shit Muse#0557: Titans Muse#0557: Gotta add them Muse#0557: Feels wrong to put the OG titan in low end Jam#0384: its just a 780ti with more vram Jam#0384: i think the 780ti is sometimes faster Muse#0557: Probably due to aib Muse#0557: Rather than the founders blower thing Jam#0384: my 780ti was good at dying Sentient Potato#6003: I think the Titan was supposed to be better at non gaming stuff Jam#0384: no Jam#0384: Titans are gaming cards Jam#0384: That's their purpose- the best gaming card
Jam#0384: EXCEPT Sentient Potato#6003: Explain the Titan Ets Jam#0384: Titan V Sentient Potato#6003: Rtx* Jam#0384: Because nvidia Jam#0384: decided to fuck it up Jam#0384: Titan RTX is still a gaming card Muse#0557: Titan V was for press coverage Muse#0557: Quadro don't make headlines Jam#0384: the only exception is the Titan V Sentient Potato#6003: The Titan rtx was worse than the 2080ti though Jam#0384: No Jam#0384: It wasn't Jam#0384: lol Muse#0557: It's much better
Sentient Potato#6003: From all the benchmarks I saw you’re wrong Jam#0384: It's slightly better Sentient Potato#6003: It’s slightly worse Jam#0384: Just checked Gamers Nexus Jam#0384: it's the same as an overclocked 2080ti or better in most cases Jam#0384: So like i said, slightly better. Jam#0384: Not much better, not worse Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717536463029534761/Hierarchy_V1.PNG Muse#0557: This is the best middle ground i could do Muse#0557: Having them entirely one colour rekt it Muse#0557: If i add a key it should be easy to use Jam#0384: I am mid high end Jam#0384: Haha epic! Muse#0557: Feel like ive invented jargon around here Jam#0384: I love when tech channels tell me my 1060 is midtange
Muse#0557: gonna hear upper low Muse#0557: non stop Jam#0384: Not really most of the actives know their shit already Jam#0384: Most Muse#0557: the display in main Muse#0557: for the last 2 hours Muse#0557: says otherwis Muse#0557: i made this because everybody was spouting out rubbish Jam#0384: Ok perhaps Jam#0384: But Jam#0384: I know my shit Jam#0384: :crome: Muse#0557: you do Muse#0557: thats why we have big boy roles Muse#0557: @Budget
Muse#0557: what do you think of it? Muse#0557: Themed to us and everything Budget#8265: give me a sec Muse#0557: 👍 Budget#8265: So you just want me to review it Muse#0557: Its your server Muse#0557: Another set of eyes also help Muse#0557: 🙂 Budget#8265: Yeah im gonna be looking through it but ive been on the go since 7 today, and its 2AM, Budget#8265: So give us a bit of time mate Muse#0557: fair enough cant say i woke up anywhere near as reasonable Muse#0557: no rush Muse#0557: dw Budget#8265: If everyone DMs or @s me with these tomorrow ill be around to check and update them Budget#8265: 👍
Budget#8265: Tonight I just need to get the new videos uploaded Muse#0557: Are your DMs open Sentient Potato#6003: Nope Sentient Potato#6003: They aren’t Muse#0557: L Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717544332265127966/Hierarchy_V1.PNG Budget#8265: Yeah i will see all @s though Budget#8265: I do got work to do tomorrow Muse#0557: Alrighty mi3night#2562: Ok so what do you guys think about ssd like those. They’re basically 960 evo from what I’ve heard https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717597935847866418/image0.png mi3night#2562: But this is the 110mm mi3night#2562: Not the standard 80mm Deleted User#0000: just a question Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717622767150956641/unknown.png Deleted User#0000: this AUTO-OVERCLOCKS the cpu for real?
Deleted User#0000: or is it really that hot even on water cooler and an cold environment? Deleted User#0000: ive been using it bcuz of fan speeds Jam#0384: I wouldn’t use tools like that Jam#0384: The auto overclock applies too much votage Lady Mipha#0611: ^ Jam#0384: They basically cook your cpu to death Jam#0384: @Deleted User Deleted User#0000: OOF... Lady Mipha#0611: also @Jam https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717624774817349642/image0.jpg Deleted User#0000: ok but Deleted User#0000: how would i manage the fans? Jam#0384: BIOS Jam#0384: Like a normal person Deleted User#0000: ok Deleted User#0000: ok so
Deleted User#0000: i use an r5 3600 which options do i use here? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717626924456869888/JPEG_20200603_033315.jpg Deleted User#0000: oh wait its cut Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717627046506791002/JPEG_20200603_033343.jpg Deleted User#0000: and how would i force all the fans to 100% all the time Jam#0384: Why would you want that Jam#0384: Why not set a fan curve so it goes up as it gets hotter Jam#0384: Also fans aren’t in the overclocking section Deleted User#0000: i already did a curve Deleted User#0000: now i just want to disable what makes it idle at 1.45 at the bios Deleted User#0000: since i saw thats not safe Deleted User#0000: idk > since i saw thats not safe @Deleted User Jam#0384: I think ryzen has some sort of weird voltage settings
Jam#0384: My 3700X is often around 1.45 Jam#0384: I wouldn’t worry about that Deleted User#0000: oh ok Deleted User#0000: i thought it was too hot or so Deleted User#0000: saw some people getting 55c max and thats my idle at OS Deleted User#0000: about the cool n quiet option Deleted User#0000: what pstate do i leave it? Deleted User#0000: or do i disable the option? Jam#0384: 55C idle is bad Jam#0384: Are you using the stock cooler? Jam#0384: What case do you have Deleted User#0000: im using an water cooler.. Jam#0384: And what are your maxtemps Deleted User#0000: 73c at gaming or so Jam#0384: How old is the AIO
Deleted User#0000: what is the aio? sorry Jam#0384: The water cooler Jam#0384: It’s an All in One Deleted User#0000: ohh Deleted User#0000: ok brb Deleted User#0000: maelstorm 120t Jam#0384: Oh it’s a single fan one Jam#0384: Lmao Jam#0384: Those are pretty terrible Deleted User#0000: oof.. Deleted User#0000: but atleast better than a stock one? Jam#0384: You would have been better off with a $30-$40 air cooler Deleted User#0000: a Jam#0384: Not to mention Jam#0384: AIO die in 3-5 years
Jam#0384: Well, they get worse Jam#0384: Or pump fails Deleted User#0000: its bizarre bcuz Deleted User#0000: it gave better results than an air one here Jam#0384: It’s not a good value proposition. They look kinda cool that’s about it. Jam#0384: Yeah it should be better than the stock cooler Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717637519428157540/JPEG_20200603_041521.jpg Jam#0384: But not what I would go with Deleted User#0000: that one was giving worse results than the water cooler Deleted User#0000: but on another cpu Deleted User#0000: but anyways how would i make it not maintain 1.45 all the time? Jam#0384: That’s not what I would call a good aircooler Deleted User#0000: oh Jam#0384: I wouldn’t worry about the voltage
Jam#0384: Look at a Scythe Fuma 2, that is a good air cooler Jam#0384: Or a Dark Rock Pro 4 Jam#0384: Even a Hyper 212 is better than that vegetal#8870: the stock cooler is fine for a 3600 even Jam#0384: lol Deleted User#0000: well ok then ill just remove dragon center then Jam#0384: Yeah never use any programs like that Jam#0384: Msi Afterburner is good Jam#0384: But nothing cpu related Jam#0384: Only gpu overclocks in OS Jam#0384: Everything else do in BIOS Deleted User#0000: right MythologicalZ#3752: It's Zen 2
MythologicalZ#3752: Leave all core voltage alone and tune memory MythologicalZ#3752: You're going to degrade at shit like 1.25v Jam#0384: Your temps are not ideal but they are safe btw Jam#0384: I would look into getting a better air cooler down the line but for now the AIO is fine Jam#0384: And yeah you preferably want 3000-3600MHz DDR4 in dual channel. MythologicalZ#3752: No his AIO doesn't look fine MythologicalZ#3752: Sounds dying or basically dead if 55c idle on 3600 Jam#0384: He said it doesn’t exceed 76 in games Jam#0384: That’s a safe temp MythologicalZ#3752: You want Zen under 75c for proper boosting MythologicalZ#3752: All of the nodes Jam#0384: If he’s getting those temps just ride it out until he can afford a nice aircooler Deleted User#0000: no its not idling 55c anymore its jumping 48 to 55c max idle Jam#0384: Thats still not ideal
MythologicalZ#3752: Is the pump rpm maxed or is left on auto Deleted User#0000: auto Deleted User#0000: i did an curve Jam#0384: You would ideally want to see 25-35C at idle Deleted User#0000: i Never Deleted User#0000: NEVER got 35 MythologicalZ#3752: Max the pump and see what happens Deleted User#0000: and my environment is cold MythologicalZ#3752: Could just be mswhy being gay with it Jam#0384: I would consider moving at least to a hyper 212 class cooler Jam#0384: Or something better like the Fuma II Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717639826358140968/unknown.png Deleted User#0000: it goes up then the fan goes together and it goes down, theeen...yeah but it was always like that even maxed MythologicalZ#3752: Have you used other software to check
MythologicalZ#3752: Ab occasionally has issued with am4 Deleted User#0000: i only use afterburner for that Deleted User#0000: ive been running like this before the curve for half a month Deleted User#0000: after building it Jam#0384: Check Hardwareinfo Jam#0384: Hwinfo Deleted User#0000: dont they say its dangerous? MythologicalZ#3752: Or ryzen master, just don't tune anything with it because outside of temp monitoring it's garbage Deleted User#0000: ok brb Deleted User#0000: now ive put the fan to 80% to 100% at the curve both pump and cpu Deleted User#0000: what..? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717642040581554246/unknown.png Deleted User#0000: so msi reads 56 and there it reads 47, but when msi reads 56 the fans speed up and thats what ive set in BIOS so wtf? MythologicalZ#3752: RM is the more accurate reading, MSI probably starts it with ab in any case Deleted User#0000: oh
MythologicalZ#3752: Does sound like the AIO is on its way out though Deleted User#0000: still, it idles 47 or so Deleted User#0000: oof.. Deleted User#0000: but anyway Deleted User#0000: this isnt killing my cpu lifetime is it? MythologicalZ#3752: No, temps are fine just not ideal Deleted User#0000: oh ok MythologicalZ#3752: Switching to a decent air cooler should help out Deleted User#0000: and my mems are 3000mhz Deleted User#0000: i just dont use the xmp for 3000mhz bcuz it did an BSOD earlier Deleted User#0000: and didnt change much in gameplay Deleted User#0000: or normal usage MythologicalZ#3752: What kit? 3000mhz xmp should be absolutely fine on a 3600 Deleted User#0000: 2x8 adata xpg rgb Deleted User#0000: i dont remember the name brb
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717645274214039562/unknown.png Deleted User#0000: yes Deleted User#0000: spectrix d41 tuf rgb MythologicalZ#3752: Probably Edie or something like that, strange that you can't set xmp Deleted User#0000: i mean Deleted User#0000: i can Deleted User#0000: but sometime randomly it done an BSOD Deleted User#0000: i didnt try again Deleted User#0000: until now with 2666 no errors appeared MythologicalZ#3752: there are definitely gains to be had with higher speeds if you want to try xmp again or manually tune but if 2666 is enough for you its fine MythologicalZ#3752: bare minimum for ryzen but its still fine Deleted User#0000: wtf.. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717646490868252763/unknown.png Deleted User#0000: oh nvm Deleted User#0000: idling 36 to 40 or so rn MythologicalZ#3752: ntb
Muse#0557: @Budget Budget#8265: yes Budget#8265: i exist BigPierogi#3368: lies Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717735071381192784/Hierarchy_V1.PNG Muse#0557: So does this Budget#8265: This needs work Muse#0557: Immediately Muse#0557: The colours didn't look so bright on my cheap monitor Muse#0557: On my phone its an acid trip MythologicalZ#3752: where is the 1080 titan Muse#0557: With the 1080 ti MythologicalZ#3752: that is the xp MythologicalZ#3752: there is non xp titan x for pascal Muse#0557: Yes they are both very similar :/
Muse#0557: What work does it need budget MythologicalZ#3752: titan x pascal is a 1080, while the xp is 1080ti MythologicalZ#3752: so there is a difference Budget#8265: Im looking over myself but yeah a lot MythologicalZ#3752: might be a good idea to put (M) for the maxwell titan Muse#0557: Yeh Alcyone#2233: no love for Geforce titan x MythologicalZ#3752: also only single fury variant would confuse people Muse#0557: That's the maxwell MythologicalZ#3752: because of x and nano existing too Muse#0557: They would be in the same tier Muse#0557: I'll add them Muse#0557: What else fellas MythologicalZ#3752: gtx/rx/etc naming MythologicalZ#3752: will confuse people with fermi and polaris
Muse#0557: We tried it Muse#0557: Looked hideous MythologicalZ#3752: also vram and bus editions Muse#0557: Made it hard to read Budget#8265: Im just going through now and making some corrections MythologicalZ#3752: a 580 3gb is a lot more usable than a 1.5 is MythologicalZ#3752: same for 2gb 5870s Muse#0557: I'll make a note but the cards after green are NVIDIA Muse#0557: And after red amd MythologicalZ#3752: its difficult to make a tier list for cards because of variants and everything like that MythologicalZ#3752: well the fermi cards dont have that scheme Muse#0557: Wdym Muse#0557: I can add an (F) BigPierogi#3368: big brian talk here Budget#8265: I like basic premise but it needs a major overhaul
MythologicalZ#3752: gf/f would work Budget#8265: Ill explain how when im done MythologicalZ#3752: its a good idea though MythologicalZ#3752: big up for taking the time to make it Muse#0557: I was aware it was gonna have issues for a first draft Muse#0557: It becomes real hard when you have to not only say how good a card is Muse#0557: But space it out and compare to like 20 others at once MythologicalZ#3752: yee Muse#0557: Jam and Justin got a couple added last night MythologicalZ#3752: another thing too, 280x/280 are missing MythologicalZ#3752: they are just 7970/50 rebrands but still Muse#0557: Tried striking a balance between readability and inclusiveness Muse#0557: I'll add those back Muse#0557: For the fury Muse#0557: And X cards
Muse#0557: I could do Fury/X/Nano Muse#0557: 280/X MythologicalZ#3752: yeah, performance is basically the same for the fury cards MythologicalZ#3752: but 280x and 280 do have a difference in performance Muse#0557: A 280 is a 7950 right MythologicalZ#3752: yes MythologicalZ#3752: 280x is 7970 Muse#0557: We all agreed they belonged in upper low Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717737688488214621/unknown.png Budget#8265: This is unfinished Budget#8265: However is a better grouping system MythologicalZ#3752: 960 also needs the vram mentioned Budget#8265: Debatable Muse#0557: True budget Muse#0557: But how much detail is too much detail
Muse#0557: Can make it look like there's way bigger differences between card than there actually is Budget#8265: VRAM Ammounts gonna take away from it beng a look up guide (id imagine thats what this is for) rather than a definitive guide Muse#0557: It's just a quick tool MythologicalZ#3752: ehh MythologicalZ#3752: the vram on 960s can make a ton of difference MythologicalZ#3752: especially nowadays Muse#0557: A 2gb is still better than everything in mid upper Muse#0557: I'll get on editing when Ive had a coffee MythologicalZ#3752: that can be debated, especially with a 4gb 770 and ubi titles MythologicalZ#3752: like in fc5 2gb is gonna hit hard Muse#0557: Gotta make the rainbow more progressive also Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717738602871652463/unknown.png Muse#0557: I feel like we should base the ranking for the average between the 2 versions Budget#8265: Its always hard to rank GPUS cause at the end of the day its all use case Muse#0557: Youd put a 590 in low middle
Budget#8265: Yes Budget#8265: Its an RX480 on 12nm Budget#8265: No difference Muse#0557: From the benchmarks I saw that wasn't the case perf wise Budget#8265: What benchmarks did you see Budget#8265: Its like 5Fps max Budget#8265: The 590 can overclock mpre Muse#0557: It's the strongest card in that category Budget#8265: But at that stage its more than a basic guide Muse#0557: Comparing it to a 290x MythologicalZ#3752: you can clock them a lot higher but generally theyre just funky 580s with a bunch of shit cooler variants Muse#0557: There's a decent difference MythologicalZ#3752: like the fatboy for example Muse#0557: So we are keeping all the other categories the same size? Muse#0557: Also
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717739142511067146/unknown.png Budget#8265: 4Fps on the top tier RX590 Budget#8265: No the other categories should increase aswell Muse#0557: The two lowest categories are getting called Potato and Potato +++ Budget#8265: I just have other things to do Budget#8265: Cause i been at work all morning Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717739361453604905/unknown.png Muse#0557: You still hold a job after YT? Muse#0557: GG Budget#8265: Wait Budget#8265: Did you think Youtube was my job Budget#8265: Fella i make peanuts Muse#0557: Rip Budget#8265: Its a hobby Muse#0557: How big is the channel atm
Budget#8265: Like in comparison to other people Budget#8265: Tiny channel Muse#0557: Hopefully one day Muse#0557: Anyways i'ma go get a coffee Budget#8265: Enjoy Muse#0557: And make the image higher res Muse#0557: Also maybe use classes somewhere like instead of upper upper mid Muse#0557: Have it be Upper B Class Muse#0557: Middle D Class etc Muse#0557: @MythologicalZ What do you think MythologicalZ#3752: sounds good Muse#0557: Do I Upper A-E then middle starts with F Muse#0557: Or goes back to A Muse#0557: Frick idk Alcyone#2233: I would sort them in
4k 60/1440p 120hz+ 1440p 60/1080p 120hz+ 1080p 720p potato Muse#0557: No because that's so use dependent Muse#0557: And NVIDIA/AMD favouring titles Muse#0557: Just creates 80 new problems Alcyone#2233: 9 tiers seems excessive Muse#0557: They've been limiting so far Muse#0557: Budget said about 15 Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717752023713579099/unknown.png Muse#0557: Ignore the unfinished bits Muse#0557: What do we think Jam#0384: i just got the deal of the century
Muse#0557: what did you get Jam#0384: $17 for a HD 2600PRO AGP in an HD4670 AGP box Muse#0557: ooo Muse#0557: nice Jam#0384: thats among the best of the cards Muse#0557: what do you think of the lettering system Muse#0557: other wise it would be Middle Super High End Muse#0557: Which is just :/ Jam#0384: Honestly I think it would look better full color, just go for grey/white columns Jam#0384: tbh Muse#0557: wdym Jam#0384: like Muse#0557: also that doesnt answer me question Jam#0384: light grey, white, light, white Jam#0384: for the rows
Jam#0384: and then full green/red text Jam#0384: OH Jam#0384: the lettering Muse#0557: B tier Jam#0384: I think you should maybe go back to the old way Muse#0557: or middle super high end Jam#0384: because it doesnt translate well Jam#0384: I'd say a 1070 is A tier for most people Jam#0384: but like Jam#0384: it's not Jam#0384: if you get what I mean Muse#0557: budget wants 15 columns so its more accurate Muse#0557: and the 2 options for that Muse#0557: are Upper middle middle Muse#0557: or Upper mid range
Muse#0557: which actually Muse#0557: sounds fine Muse#0557: nvm Jam#0384: mid range and low end should be the largest categories Jam#0384: to be fair Muse#0557: true Muse#0557: theyll be more full Muse#0557: also we have way more horizontal room once i fill out the width Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717753847929503815/unknown.png Muse#0557: This works nicely Muse#0557: also ima keep the colours Muse#0557: but tone them down alot Muse#0557: my shitty monitor wasnt showing how vibrant they were Muse#0557: maybe also black font on the gpu names mi3night#2562: @Muse 2070s and 1080ti is the same level of perf rn in newer games
Muse#0557: its a wip Jam#0384: have near full SRGB and RGB coverage and yeah its hella vibrant Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717763402168139806/Hierarchy_V2.png Muse#0557: Hasnt been filled in Muse#0557: but Muse#0557: i like it alot Jam#0384: there shouldnt be any reds or green in the background Jam#0384: that's pretty counterintuitive Jam#0384: should go for a more concise colourscheme Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717764559104114758/Hierarchy_V2.png Muse#0557: Dialled back the reds and green a bit Jam#0384: i would personally go for a bit more of a dialed back monochrome aesthetic Jam#0384: maybe a blue grey and a off white Jam#0384: alternated Jam#0384: It makes it look more legit
Jam#0384: the rainbow is kinda distracting and hard to look at Muse#0557: i think it helps the eyes seperate the sections honestly Jam#0384: your eyes are not right Jam#0384: it is hard to look at tbh Muse#0557: idk man Muse#0557: both have pros and cons Jam#0384: no lmao Jam#0384: this is just not how you do a chart Jam#0384: this makes it harder to read Jam#0384: the standard practice is to pick two colors Jam#0384: one slightly darker and alternate Jam#0384: this will make it easiest to read Muse#0557: if we have 50 cards having just 2 colours is gonna be more difficult to distinguish between sections Muse#0557: gimme 2 sections Muse#0557: both have their merits
Muse#0557: seconds Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717766705203511326/Hierarchy_V2.png Xbox 360 1953#2640: You making this in an adobe thing? Muse#0557: tye Muse#0557: ye Xbox 360 1953#2640: You got the file? Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717767169634730084/Hierarchy_V2.psd Muse#0557: its messy so that it can edited properly by me Muse#0557: so gl Xbox 360 1953#2640: I might still have the adobe crap installed Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717768868684234792/Hierarchy_V2.png Muse#0557: Now its nice to read Muse#0557: if you cant read that then youre blind Jam#0384: Better Muse#0557: i think its the way to go
Muse#0557: strikes a good balance Muse#0557: also there is now a box at the bottom for asterisks and other info Muse#0557: @Budget When are you free? Budget#8265: what for Muse#0557: ive gotten the template upto scratch and you said you wanted more changes Budget#8265: o right you want more advice and stuff Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717769578922639390/unknown.png Budget#8265: whats going on here Muse#0557: i havent updated them Budget#8265: GTX580 (im assuming) Destroys all of these cards Budget#8265: o right Muse#0557: just made it bigger Muse#0557: and found a better way than having 5 per bracket Muse#0557: @Tech Helper How low end do we go, because that needs to be decided so we can rank the other cards relative to highest and lowest Xbox 360 1953#2640: That's enough of adobe for today, like this software i do not
Muse#0557: its really not fun TheGeekster#8508: REEEEEE who hath summoned the time for bix Budget#8265: Back to Fermi sounds right Budget#8265: Cause DX11/12 Support Budget#8265: Terascale we can leave out for now Lumaterian#3557: if I was doing it'd I'd yeet anything that doesn't have current driver support Muse#0557: i was thinking the lowest should be gt 710, hd 4000 level TheGeekster#8508: Yeah don't bother going pre 500 series imo, it's at that point, you're just burning more power than pixels Muse#0557: since people are putting gt 710s in systems and people are buying them Muse#0557: we have the room for tons more now TheGeekster#8508: how about a rank of "ffs don't buy it" Muse#0557: super low end kinda implies that Lumaterian#3557: rename super low end to garbage Muse#0557: also sorry didnt realise mods had tech helper roles Muse#0557: trying to keep it professional luma
Muse#0557: minus the frobot Lumaterian#3557: I mean Lumaterian#3557: something like HD 4000 is objectively actual trash Muse#0557: yeh Muse#0557: lower super low end Muse#0557: doesnt sound flattering Lumaterian#3557: GT 710 gets to live because 3 and 4x displays for 50 bucks Muse#0557: ._. Lumaterian#3557: I know y'all are into old hardware here and I respect that Lumaterian#3557: but imo, no driver support = ewaste Muse#0557: if you want a graphics adapter Muse#0557: buy a 3450 Muse#0557: £10 Lumaterian#3557: not recommending anyone buy 710 for 50 bucks Muse#0557: this also isnt about use
Muse#0557: its a power sheet Lumaterian#3557: can get used 680 or something if you're lucky Muse#0557: kepler is :/ Lumaterian#3557: kekler Muse#0557: not holding up for the specs behind it Lumaterian#3557: yeah nvidia did an experiment, and it didn't work out so well Muse#0557: so lowest is gt 710/730/4000 Muse#0557: 3450 too Lumaterian#3557: why are you stopping at 700 series for nvidia but 3000 for amd Lumaterian#3557: that's like what, 6 year gap? Muse#0557: i meant that sorta card Muse#0557: not those exact ones Lumaterian#3557: ah Muse#0557: wasnt gonna list them all out rn Lumaterian#3557: wait instead of calling it garbage category
Lumaterian#3557: call it like Lumaterian#3557: web browsing Alcyone#2233: display adapter Lumaterian#3557: 2D accelerator Bogi76#3090: yeah display adapter/retro stuff should work TheFifthAce#4128: @Muse r5 240 > 3450 all day long TheFifthAce#4128: half the price and its gcn Muse#0557: fair enough Muse#0557: If anybody wishes to help there is a link to a server in advertisements Budget#8265: hd 3450 is potato Jam#0384: 4350 and 5450 are also potatoes Jam#0384: but they can run Portal 2 very well Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717773780663140433/3D_Mark.png Budget#8265: From new video Budget#8265: battle of the potats
Muse#0557: im gonna need more help with this chart than the last one Muse#0557: also accidentally broke a rule Muse#0557: 😦 Bogi76#3090: ngl i kinda wanna compare my 9800GT to those Jam#0384: me when i pull out my entire arsenal of cards Jam#0384: time to chew ass and kick bubblegum Jam#0384: And I’ll all out of ass Muse#0557: the vega 56 is kicking the 1070 and 980 tis arse in all the benchmarks ive seen MythologicalZ#3752: you skew cloudgate results on coffee lake Muse#0557: honestly watching a view of Hardware unboxed videos Muse#0557: the 56 is getting up there with a 1080 and 2070 sometimes Jam#0384: Poobis Muse#0557: Super- UP: 2080 Ti, Titan V, Titan RTX, Mid: 2080S, 2080, 1080 Ti, Titan Xp, Titan X (Pascal), Radeon VII Low: 2070S, 5700 XT
High- Up: 2070, 2060S, 1080, 5700, V64 Mid: 2060, 1070 Ti, 5600 XT, V56 Low: 1660 Ti, 1660S, 1070, 980 Ti, Titan X (M) Mid- Up: 1660, 1650S, 980, Fury/X/Nano, 5500 XT Mid: 1060 6GB, 590, 580, 390/290X Low: 1650, 1060 3GB, 970, 570, 470, 390/290 Low- Up: 1050 Ti, 960, 780 Ti, Titan, 285, 280X, 7970 Mid: 1050, 950, 780, 770, 560 280, 7950 Low: 760, 750 Ti 680, 670, 660 Ti, 580, 570, 270X, 270, 7870, 7850 S.Low Up: 750, Vega 11, 660, 550, 460, R7 260X, R7 250X, 7790, 7770, Mid: Vega 8, 650 Ti Boost, R7 250, 7750, 650 Low: 730, 9800GT, 8800 GTX UHD630, 620, 530, 520 Vega 3 Muse#0557: This is what i got Muse#0557: Help Muse#0557: HELPPPPPPP
mi3night#2562: I have super mid Sentient Potato#6003: I have mid up Muse#0557: it will look snazzy soon BigPierogi#3368: i have mid low AhmedST#6627: i have mid low specifically rx 560 Muse#0557: Yeh the 560 is a really meh card tbh Muse#0557: @Budget Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717800242539659394/Hierarchy_V2.png Muse#0557: Probably some mistakes and tiny tweaks that need to be done Muse#0557: but Muse#0557: its much better Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717801624877269062/Hierarchy_V1.PNG Muse#0557: @Jam Look how stinky the old one was Jam#0384: yes Muse#0557: new one looks professional big mans
Jam#0384: peepee Budget#8265: I dig the new look Budget#8265: Much easier to read Budget#8265: Will look over low end later tonight when i am free Muse#0557: i dont know too too much about older amd since their naming scheme was odd around 5000 and 6000 Jam#0384: those shouldnt be on the list anyways Jam#0384: they aren't very good Muse#0557: That's why they are in shit tier shouldn't buy region Muse#0557: Gotta show people they aren't worth using thatubuntuguy#5914: M25 thatubuntuguy#5914: Man of culture Muse#0557: I was the one to get it added, it was like 4am and me and hamish were just talking about motorways Muse#0557: 👍 Muse#0557: :M25: thatubuntuguy#5914: I live like 2 mins away from the M25
thatubuntuguy#5914: Much appreciated 🙏 Ramiere#1840: Since mics need “phantom power” to operate does a headset mic also need that? JustinXenyx#8854: nah, headsets for PC don't need phantom power and an usb audio interface to be used JustinXenyx#8854: since those are electret condensers, which run with the typical 1.5-5V of "soundcard power" that PC soundcards provide Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717912306914295868/Hierarchy_V2-1.png Deleted User#0000: I'm part of the potato master race with my hd 7790 wiryfuture🦀#1706: @Muse victory frobot is win wiryfuture🦀#1706: low lower is barely legible? Muse#0557: I was just posting it so I had the most upto here Muse#0557: I can read it fine Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/717915153634689064/Screenshot_20200604_023823_com.discord.jpg Muse#0557: Even on my phone wiryfuture🦀#1706: guess I small eyes Muse#0557: You clicking on it right wiryfuture🦀#1706: yes
Muse#0557: To have it be big Muse#0557: Its definitely readable wiryfuture🦀#1706: lol Muse#0557: I'm gonna tweak it so more maybe Muse#0557: Tomorrow tho Muse#0557: Cba tonight wiryfuture🦀#1706: slightly lighter blue Deleted User#0000: I'm gonna wait for the first reviews of the rtx 3000 series and the rdna 2 cards mish#5687: im part of the peasant tier GPU performance gang Officialy#2961: im apart of the hot gpu gang Officialy#2961: aka 2070 super fe thatubuntuguy#5914: Put the fucking M25 back thatubuntuguy#5914: @Muse thatubuntuguy#5914: :crome: wiryfuture🦀#1706: :M25:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ? stubbertville#5239: Can I have some help? MythologicalZ#3752: whats up stubbertville#5239: Sooo, I have a 2004 ibm think pad and neither wifi will connect and the ethernet will say its connected then in 2 seconds say its not stubbertville#5239: Built in wifi cant find my network and my dell card can and it connects to the wifi but says https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718096922132480040/20200604_083010.jpg stubbertville#5239: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718097012188250212/JPEG_20200604_084107.jpg Muse#0557: I mean it's a 16 year old laptop... Its not going to behave perfectly with new WiFi Muse#0557: I would try a USB WiFi receiver and see how that goes Muse#0557: @MythologicalZ Muse#0557: Do you you think we were a bit harsh on the 780ti and 780 DarknessFalls229#2286: i think a 780 is about on par on with the 7970 and falls between the performance of a 10 series 1050ti and 1060 Muse#0557: thats what i was thinking DarknessFalls229#2286: so yeah, maybe a tier too harsh Muse#0557: was thinking of moving the 780 ti upto the 970/290 Muse#0557: and the 780 into the 1050 ti tier
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think thats good Muse#0557: @thatubuntuguy Maybe later Muse#0557: The chart is coming together nicely Muse#0557: mad to think that the 7970 was the 680 competitor and now beats the 780 DarknessFalls229#2286: AMD drivers bruh DarknessFalls229#2286: they might not be the best, but they seem to improve over time Muse#0557: id say its more to do with kepler doing poorly DarknessFalls229#2286: perhaps Muse#0557: i think ill also move the 680 up a tier Muse#0557: its atleast a 7850 Muse#0557: also the 670 since its the same thing DarknessFalls229#2286: ? DarknessFalls229#2286: 670 =/= 680 DarknessFalls229#2286: you mean 770 = 680? Muse#0557: they are very similar performance wise
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah Muse#0557: since the 680 has a cut down core Muse#0557: im pretty sure that closes the gap DarknessFalls229#2286: 680 cut down core? never heard a flagship cutdown since the 480 Muse#0557: i dont think the 480 was cut down DarknessFalls229#2286: nah it was DarknessFalls229#2286: i think they were having problems with yields so the GTX 480 was cutdown Muse#0557: oh not in the same way Muse#0557: it still used the best they could Muse#0557: they purposely gimped the 680 to save money DarknessFalls229#2286: what did they skimp out on then? Muse#0557: not sure off the top of my head but they used a 104 chip instead of a 100 Muse#0557: so i think its a suped up 670 DarknessFalls229#2286: they do indeed use a 104 chip Muse#0557: yep both use 104s
Muse#0557: its a suped up 670 DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm, seems that the GK100 went unreleased DarknessFalls229#2286: as even the 690 uses regular old GK104's DarknessFalls229#2286: i have also noticed Muse#0557: dual cards usually dont have the full thing DarknessFalls229#2286: GTX titan black and GTX 780ti are pretty much the same aside from VRAM Muse#0557: yeh same with the regular titan and the 780 DarknessFalls229#2286: dont really see much of a difference between a 680 core and a 690 core other than clockspeed Muse#0557: the dual cards are always clocked down Muse#0557: thats what makes the ares and mars card special Lumaterian#3557: normal titan has more cores than 780 Lumaterian#3557: 780 ti and titan black are identical excepting vram DarknessFalls229#2286: > GTX titan black and GTX 780ti are pretty much the same aside from VRAM JustinXenyx#8854: i still disagree with moving kepler up JustinXenyx#8854: that shit can belong where it is
JustinXenyx#8854: the drivers are only going to get worse and worse Muse#0557: still tho Muse#0557: think rn Muse#0557: they are better than we are giving credit JustinXenyx#8854: i am thinking right now aswell JustinXenyx#8854: Kepler is struggling a fuck ton because of the shit drivers Muse#0557: even with drivers the 780 ti is better than a 7950 Muse#0557: and around a 290 JustinXenyx#8854: I would be 100% fine with the asterisk thing JustinXenyx#8854: where we indicate that certain cards have been moved down a tier because of some sort of issue with them JustinXenyx#8854: That would not only apply to Kepler though JustinXenyx#8854: Terascale and Fermi cards technically suffer from the same issue MythologicalZ#3752: fermis drivers are fine MythologicalZ#3752: just old MythologicalZ#3752: terascales are a mess
GmGTrials#6729: Yes but a 780=/ 960 GmGTrials#6729: Regardless of drivers GmGTrials#6729: Also, a gtx 570 shouldn't be in the same tier as a 1030 Alcyone#2233: I agree. fermi just old Alcyone#2233: I dunno my 560 beats the 2200g. maybe a 570 can beat the 1030 Lumaterian#3557: 1700MHz 3400G https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718156713777299459/Radeon_RX_Vega_11_3400G_1700_3000.png Lumaterian#3557: for reference Lumaterian#3557: 4.1 on CPU, 3000MHz RAM (best it would run) JustinXenyx#8854: i feel like the GPU clock on APU Vega is almost irrelevant if you don't have equally high clocked memory Lumaterian#3557: score was definitely going up when I was OCing it JustinXenyx#8854: so while yes the iGP is clocked at 1700Mhz, it would probably perform pretty similar at lower clocks because of "only" 3000Mhz RAM clock Alcyone#2233: yeah the apus are heavily mem bottlenecked Lumaterian#3557: I tried to get it to run 3200 but it wasn't having it JustinXenyx#8854: i probably would have returned that 3400G to be completely honest JustinXenyx#8854: not running above 3000Mhz memory clock for a Zen+ mem IC is a bit odd
Lumaterian#3557: I sold it like 2 months ago Lumaterian#3557: for corona pricing Lumaterian#3557: made like 50$ Lumaterian#3557: and I really don't think those APUs are Zen+ Lumaterian#3557: CPU portion on 3400G and 2400G performs worse than 1400 Lumaterian#3557: by a small margin Alcyone#2233: i was 450 points behind in graphics with gtx 560 1gb https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718157863352008824/unknown.png JustinXenyx#8854: 3400G is Zen+, 2400G is Zen Lumaterian#3557: it's definitely 12nm Lumaterian#3557: but 34 and 24 are identical if you clock them the same Lumaterian#3557: from what I can see AMD didn't design a new core, they just RX 590'd the 2400G and called it a day Lumaterian#3557: and soldered it ofc JustinXenyx#8854: i doubt that to be quite fair JustinXenyx#8854: But given that it is an APU the bottleneck might come from elsewhere Lumaterian#3557: the explanation I was given for the poor performance vs zen1 was 4MB of cache
Lumaterian#3557: and a guy who knows a lot more than I do about how CPUs are made said that the CPU portion of those 2 is functionally identical Lumaterian#3557: my 3400G did hit 4.1 while my 2400G only did 4.0 Lumaterian#3557: but apart from that they scored the same in every test I ran Lumaterian#3557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718158695862763651/AMD_Ryzen_5_2400G_4.1_1500_FCLK.png Lumaterian#3557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718158697301278741/AMD_Ryzen_5_3400G_4.1_1500_FCLK.png Lumaterian#3557: same board same ram same clocks Lumaterian#3557: while my 1500X did 915 Lumaterian#3557: best of 5 runs Muse#0557: a 570 slams a vega gpu GmGTrials#6729: I just feel like, looking at the chart, a gtx 570 doesn't deserve super low end card status GmGTrials#6729: Ditto with the 480, just to a lesser extent Lumaterian#3557: my OCed 570 performed closer to GTX 1660 than it did to 1060 6GB in my testing GmGTrials#6729: Nothing higher than lower low end mind you, but definitely above super low end Muse#0557: gtx 570 Muse#0557: not rx 570
GmGTrials#6729: Yeah Lumaterian#3557: fuck Lumaterian#3557: I've been naming scheme'd again Muse#0557: thats why they are colour coded Lumaterian#3557: didn't look at the chart, just your conversation Muse#0557: it isnt gonna be pinned until @Budget is happy with it Muse#0557: then it will be easy to look at Muse#0557: 🙂 Lumaterian#3557: 🙂 GmGTrials#6729: So question GmGTrials#6729: Do we include the GTX 280 on the chart? JustinXenyx#8854: I feel like it is filled way too much anyway GmGTrials#6729: I feel like we should if we're including the 8000 series JustinXenyx#8854: why the fuck are there 8800 and 9800 on there DarknessFalls229#2286: _lets add another category to the chart called retro, high end, era appropriate and true retro_
GmGTrials#6729: Actually Muse#0557: ive tried to add gpus that budget has made videos on GmGTrials#6729: I quite like that idea Muse#0557: those are welcome to come off GmGTrials#6729: @DarknessFalls229 married a good point DarknessFalls229#2286: yet she is bathed with sarcasm Muse#0557: not adding it to that chart Muse#0557: if you want the template be my guest JustinXenyx#8854: Things i feel like can gtfo: everything terascale and duplicate cards should be listed as one Muse#0557: i was told like 8 times Muse#0557: to list the 280x Muse#0557: and 7970 Muse#0557: for example DarknessFalls229#2286: _dont forget the 7950 and r9 280 non-x_ JustinXenyx#8854: 280x/7970, start with the modern version and then list the older counterpart
Muse#0557: ik that Muse#0557: thats what i said the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: these were all probably sent here before but i use them way to often that im resending them the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1092033-ssd-tier-list/ the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit?usp=drivesdk the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1046174-graphics-card-coolingvrm-tier-list-navi-update/ the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: last one i check cause coolers on some cards JustinXenyx#8854: the mobo list is pinned already, we have an ssd spreadsheet pinned already but the graphics card thing is new JustinXenyx#8854: dunno how much relevancy that one carries though for the majority of people Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485138525885431808/718242876777168976/IMG_20200604_191927.png Xbox 360 1953#2640: I am become real gamer Xbox 360 1953#2640: I have hidden all my cables in the back for the first time TheFifthAce#4128: @the aggresive toilet flusher ssd tier list is trash TheFifthAce#4128: it has utter garbage ssds in budget TheFifthAce#4128: and doesnt have a 'pure trash' category
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Which list Xbox 360 1953#2640: The ltt fourms one? Xbox 360 1953#2640: Or the pictures JustinXenyx#8854: the pictures seem to be just outdated, he is referencing the ltt list one @Xbox 360 1953 JustinXenyx#8854: there is a spreadsheet pinned that is much more reliable though Xbox 360 1953#2640: nice Muse#0557: Justin if you want one you can keep upto day mess around with the Gpu thing TheFifthAce#4128: so TheFifthAce#4128: I have a quandary TheFifthAce#4128: FreeDOS 3.0 HP Probook 445 G7 Notebook PC with AMD Ryzen™ 7 4700U (4.1GHz max, 8 core, 8MB cache) and AMD UMA Radeon™ Graphics - 7RX18AV 14" diagonal LED UWVA Anti-Glare FHD (1920x1080) with 2 Antennas, and IR Webcam, 250 nits Integrated HD 720p IR webcam with dual-microphone array 4 GB DDR4-3200 PC4 SO-DIMM memory (1 DIMM) 500 GB 7200 RPM SATA hard drive
Premium spill-resistant keyboard, clickpad with multi-touch gesture support - Backlit Intel® AX200 Wi-Fi 6 (2x2) and Bluetooth® 5 Combo Integrated Fingerprint Sensor 65-watt AC Adapter, Straight USB-C connector, nPFC 1.8m Power Cord with C5 connector and fixed duckhead (For USB Type-C 65-watt AC adapter) Destination Country Localization Kit 3-cell 45 WHr Long Life Battery (Internal and not replaceable by customer. Serviceable by warranty.) One-year limited warranty (1/1/0) Standard Packaging TheFifthAce#4128: This is an HP laptop TheFifthAce#4128: **hp** TheFifthAce#4128: BUT TheFifthAce#4128: it ticks all the right boxes TheFifthAce#4128: It's only $665 kinda very tempted
I have windows linked to my MS account, I have 8gb sticks of sodimm, I have ssds this is basically the perfect laptop for what I want TheFifthAce#4128: it'd be 8 core, 16gb ram, 512gb ssd, ax wifi 6, 1080p ips display with windows hello and fingerprint TheFifthAce#4128: for only $665 TheFifthAce#4128: but its an **hp** Lady Mipha#0611: ah yes a horrible product the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > and doesnt have a 'pure trash' category @TheFifthAce idk id consider budget to be the pure trash tier:Hahahahaha: the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > it has utter garbage ssds in budget dis tier TheFifthAce#4128: @Lady Mipha its a probook tho Xbox 360 1953#2640: fuck yeah, my gpu temps in yakuza kiwami 2 went from 94c to 82 c with my new case Lady Mipha#0611: @TheFifthAce i’m not talking about the laptop itself i’m talking about the company’s nickname TheFifthAce#4128: ah Xbox 360 1953#2640: Haytch pea
TheFifthAce#4128: @Lady Mipha @Xbox 360 1953 https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Processor-Graphics-81X20005US-Graphite/dp/B086226DDB/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=ryzen+4000+laptop&qid=1591322412&sr=8-3#customerReviews TheFifthAce#4128: I'm buying this instead TheFifthAce#4128: ships an entire month sooner, comes with ram and ssd and windows, and has dual nvme Xbox 360 1953#2640: pen Xbox 360 1953#2640: I've got this odd issue with an old dell xps aio Xbox 360 1953#2640: Whenever I turn it on, the stuff displays on the monitor for a second and then the screen turns off Xbox 360 1953#2640: I think it might be an issue with the gpu but I'm not certain Cableguy#6929: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718787228700246076/IMG_20200606_122100.jpg Cableguy#6929: Just bought this tank 😅 😂 Cableguy#6929: ```Sabertooth x79 Motherboard Intel Core i7-3960X 3.30GHz 6Cores 12GB DDR3 2133 MHz 1200PSU 1TB Drive 7200RPM GTX 970 Zotec```
Bogi76#3090: bois should i go for i5-3470 or 3570S? Bogi76#3090: both are around same price Cableguy#6929: 3470 is a little better AhmedST#6627: Price @Cableguy AhmedST#6627: ? Cableguy#6929: @AhmedST £300 Fluxirya#1207: r/madlads https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718828509073768518/Screenshot_20200606-155821_YouTube.jpg Fluxirya#1207: @Cableguy i have one and it's good for gaming D.D.M#8226: hey guys so i am planning to upgrade my processor (right now i have a i3-2120) and my motherboard is ga-z77-ds3h and i am not sure which 3rd gen intel proccesor should i get as the board has a single cpu header for power (4 pins), so any suggestions? Xbox 360 1953#2640: you should be fine with whatever there is for the socket Xbox 360 1953#2640: so like 3770 or 3470 or whatever Xbox 360 1953#2640: Issue is that i7s cost a bunch DarknessFalls229#2286: anything at stock clocks should be fine, as i7's are indeed somewhat expensive you should take a look into xeons D.D.M#8226: in my country we have a selling site and 1st 2nd and 3rd gen intel proccesors are quite cheap DarknessFalls229#2286: 1st gen is out of the question, different chipset
DarknessFalls229#2286: if an i7 3770 is cheap you should go for that DarknessFalls229#2286: dont think you should overclock on that board anyway D.D.M#8226: cool thanks DarknessFalls229#2286: otherwise perhaps a step down with an i7 2600 Lumaterian#3557: that board is fine for OC Lumaterian#3557: get a 2600K Lumaterian#3557: if you can find one for a good price Lumaterian#3557: you're not getting to 5GHz on a board like that, but a moderate OC is perfectly fine Lumaterian#3557: just have some airflow around that vrm Muse#0557: @Alcyone still nothing Alcyone#2233: welp ur ssd is most likely ded Alcyone#2233: have you tried a different sata data cable and port? Muse#0557: Yep Muse#0557: I've got like no money since dpd still hasn't refunded me after losing a package close to 2 months ago Muse#0557: @Alcyone Now it just goes to a black screen
Muse#0557: Idk what to do Muse#0557: Big sad Alcyone#2233: use a differnt boot drive until you can afford a ssd Muse#0557: I don't have one atm Alcyone#2233: no hdds around? Muse#0557: Nope Muse#0557: Fuck Muse#0557: Loving life Miki2305#5707: Help https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718885538014298162/unknown.png Deleted User#0000: so Deleted User#0000: ive opened the Ray Tracing Reflections demo on my 2070 and i saw this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/718949943808884816/unknown.png Deleted User#0000: some stretching stuff going on JustinXenyx#8854: lmao Deleted User#0000: it cant be artifacting, can? JustinXenyx#8854: i'd call it a rendering glitch/artifact
JustinXenyx#8854: nothing GPU related Deleted User#0000: oh ok Deleted User#0000: if it was gpu related it should artifact on other games shouldnt it? JustinXenyx#8854: Yup it would Deleted User#0000: yeah Deleted User#0000: just launched up battlefield 5 with rt and no problems Muse#0557: I love how BFV makes everything way too shiny to try show what raytracing can do Muse#0557: Looks like battlescarred tanks and magazines have been carefully polished between the mud Deleted User#0000: haha yes MarcosCodas#6375: Hey, guys. Got any tips for good places to buy old dell mobos or something without proprietary crap in the US? 1155, I'm afraid. MarcosCodas#6375: Aside from eBay Muse#0557: Honestly looking locally for whole pcs is usually a good idea Muse#0557: Then you have ram, HDD, cpu Muse#0557: To use in flip computers maybe MarcosCodas#6375: I live in Paraguay
MarcosCodas#6375: Used market is dead here Muse#0557: :/ MarcosCodas#6375: Bringing CPU, mobo and RAM from the US is still cheaper MarcosCodas#6375: This isn't for me, just reselling them for fun Muse#0557: Honestly whole systems when you can find them for a good price might be the way MarcosCodas#6375: It's US$23/kg MarcosCodas#6375: Just need a place to buy used parts from like former office equipment and such MarcosCodas#6375: Old optiplex mobos MarcosCodas#6375: Etc Muse#0557: I would look local or in your country, I know the market is abismal but dealing US shipping costs MarcosCodas#6375: I would still appreciate tips for sites 🙂 I've done it many times MarcosCodas#6375: Just seeing if I can get tips for new resources MarcosCodas#6375: Math works out 🙂 don't worry Muse#0557: Don't know any sites that would benefit you Muse#0557: Your needs are very specific
boog#9487: The headphone jack and built in speakers are on the same audio channel I guess you would say so when I unplug my headphones my speakers are now at whatever volume my headphones were at is there a way to give them different volumes of not I'll disconnect the internal speakers reagan#6608: Allo everyone, is there a place where old PCs go? Like old gaming ones, or those office sff PCs? I thought they were all on eBay, but no, it is all outrageously priced! Is there a ‘PC eBay’ or a surplus market? Aspire#9354: it dosent have the startup setting JC392#0392: I suppose HP must have removed it Aspire#9354: #shame Aspire#9354: what to do now? Aspire#9354: format the drive? JC392#0392: system image recovery might be similar JC392#0392: It will use a recovery partition on the hard drive made at the factory Aspire#9354: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719131370269573200/IMG20200607181106.jpg Aspire#9354: hmmmm Aspire#9354: @JC392 JC392#0392: Has it been formatted before now? Aspire#9354: not yet Aspire#9354: but the files have been moved
Aspire#9354: to my Data 1 Drive on my pc JC392#0392: It might have been removed if that's the case Aspire#9354: its copied Aspire#9354: i mean Aspire#9354: the files are still there JC392#0392: Assuming you're sure you have all the files safely backed up, you should be able to format it Aspire#9354: on the sshd drive Aspire#9354: yes JC392#0392: With no worries Aspire#9354: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719131716488396861/unknown.png Aspire#9354: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719131781160501278/unknown.png Aspire#9354: boi JC392#0392: But, I don't know if it will keep the license you had for Windows Aspire#9354: its fine JC392#0392: If it doesn't you can get them very cheap on eBay
Aspire#9354: i know Aspire#9354: but got license from a friend of mine Aspire#9354: so ya JC392#0392: That's nice Aspire#9354: so wut Aspire#9354: format the drive? Aspire#9354: @JC392 Aspire#9354: cuz i can do it aslong its those drivers and let windows do the rest JC392#0392: You have a windows installation media? Aspire#9354: yep Aspire#9354: its on my flash drive Aspire#9354: @JC392 JC392#0392: Get cracking, then JC392#0392: I guess Aspire#9354: ok
JC392#0392: You might run into an issue where the hard drive refuses to format Aspire#9354: wut u mean JC392#0392: It's happened to me a few times before JC392#0392: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719133258834509824/Windows-cannot-be-installed-to-this-disk.png Aspire#9354: oh no JC392#0392: Affects Windows 10 & 7 afaik Aspire#9354: i pray for myself Aspire#9354: why u do dis to me JC392#0392: Better to know in advance JC392#0392: Than to find out Aspire#9354: ima try Aspire#9354: cuz if it fails then Aspire#9354: wait Aspire#9354: if i connect the drive to my main pc Aspire#9354: and format it
Aspire#9354: does it work? JC392#0392: Format it via the Windows installer first JC392#0392: If it doesn't work, try your main PC Aspire#9354: wait Aspire#9354: i think it can Aspire#9354: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719133901976633365/IMG20200607182048.jpg Aspire#9354: i just need to change it Aspire#9354: @JC392 JC392#0392: It looks like it Aspire#9354: welp Aspire#9354: lemme just change the drive and then once good i can proceed my installation Aspire#9354: like format to ntfs JC392#0392: Any luck? Aspire#9354: @JC392 yup Aspire#9354: im on setting up the windows
JC392#0392: Good Aspire#9354: i have a question aswell Aspire#9354: is it normal for a laptop to have 45-50+ Celsius above temp? Aspire#9354: @JC392 Aspire#9354: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719154324835663882/IMG20200607194224.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: wym "above temp"?? Aspire#9354: look at pic JustinXenyx#8854: i don't understand what you mean with "above temp" Aspire#9354: idk if its above temp Aspire#9354: but is the temps good? Aspire#9354: its on the pic JustinXenyx#8854: let me put it this way: they're normal JustinXenyx#8854: > i don't understand what you mean with "above temp" i thought you meant like 46C *above* your room temperature Aspire#9354: its laptop
Aspire#9354: sorry JustinXenyx#8854: while 46C is a bit toasty and i would assume the thermal paste is a bit older, the temps are still 100% fine for a laptop Aspire#9354: i changed the thermal paste Aspire#9354: when i was dissasembling the laptop JustinXenyx#8854: what laptop is it? Aspire#9354: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719155290213449778/unknown.png Aspire#9354: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719155319938351124/unknown.png Aspire#9354: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719155388485992468/IMG20200607194638.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: Oh yeah no for that laptop they're 100% fine Aspire#9354: ok Aspire#9354: thanks Aspire#9354: what is this stuff https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719160711514685450/unknown.png Aspire#9354: oh god reagan#6608: Allo everyone, is there a place where old PCs go? Like old gaming ones, or those office sff PCs? I thought they were all on eBay, but no, it is all outrageously priced! Is there a ‘PC eBay’ or a surplus market? DarknessFalls229#2286: usually just go to your local online marketplace for deals, if its ebay, thats where its at with those prices whether you like it or not
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also, sometimes you need to wait to strike a good deal boog#9487: When I'm listening to music (or any audio) on my laptop through the 3.5mm jack it seems to crackle of pop every now and again I havent tested the internal speakers as they are disconnected but I've tried different headphones, through an amp, both of the 2 headphone jacks, updating the driver, resetting realtek settings, but it has persisted D.D.M#8226: Does it happen when you spin the jack around or you arent touching it boog#9487: I'm not touching it the cable isn't moving it's going through a 6ft extension to an amp right now D.D.M#8226: Weird it could be the headphone jack boog#9487: It's not constant only seems to happen when a song ends or something boog#9487: Or when a loud part of a song ends boog#9487: Basically when something drastically changes boog#9487: Either that or it's random boog#9487: Should I try reflowing the headone jack? boog#9487: I have a hot air rework station Alcyone#2233: i would try spraying deoxit in the jack first boog#9487: Deoxit? D.D.M#8226: Maybe it could be a sound chip issue as my dads laptop made crackling sounds and it turns out it was faulty boog#9487: It happens alot with heavy guitar solos
boog#9487: I just noticed Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719272181846114364/341-200_HR_0.png boog#9487: Anything else I wouldn't have to run to the hardware store for? D.D.M#8226: Or clean it with some isopropyl alcohol as if theres some gunk in the headphone jack it could be that Alcyone#2233: could maybe try iso and a rolled up piece of paper or a cotton swab that will easily fit boog#9487: Alright I've got some isopropyl Alcyone#2233: just make sure the power is off and it dries fully boog#9487: Alright boog#9487: I'll probably find a test song that always makes the issue happen first in order to be sure it works D.D.M#8226: My gpu is reaching nearly 100 c should i worry? Muse#0557: It should be throttling down to stop that D.D.M#8226: Well its not going above 100 c just gets to 98 and goes down a little and repeats Alcyone#2233: it probably needs new thermal paste and that is too hot for prolonged use D.D.M#8226: Yeah i noticed D.D.M#8226: My little brother has been playing gta v and i left msi afterburner on to see it reaching about 98 c
D.D.M#8226: Its a gtx 550 ti Alcyone#2233: well its going to be throttling to lower clocks at those temps too so you need to get temps in check for full performance D.D.M#8226: After the qurantine in my country i will grab some thermal paste Xbox 360 1953#2640: man matx is fukin tiny Xbox 360 1953#2640: ive got a matx 775 board in my hand and i cant believe how small it is Alcyone#2233: matx is not much smaller than atx Alcyone#2233: 9.6x9.6" vs 9.6x12" so like 2 inches Xbox 360 1953#2640: I don't think i've ever had an atx board its just that matx is always smaller than i expect it to be when i open the pc's i have Xbox 360 1953#2640: and the matx board i have rn is shorter than the one in my main Dogecode#7321: Is there a good way to test the stability of a PSU? I've got an old Dell unit which came out of a system with a dead mobo. Dogecode#7321: I tested it briefly in another system while I was troubleshooting that system and it worked. I think the culprit may have been some bulging caps on the mobo but I still don't want to risk frying something JoshTheTechie#2808: only way I know is getting a PSU tester, they come quite handy and don't normally cost too much JoshTheTechie#2808: My one is similar to this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719304826554417172/41gG8YxAhHL.png scelli#0001: Why don’t you just use a multimeter