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JustinXenyx#8854: why bother reexplaining something when you can already find such a good explanation on the internet
Muse#0557: Has he really just send a jpg of a delidded cpu
Lumaterian#3557: large die of Titan RTX https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722208656049045575/geforce-rtx-2080-ti_02.png
Muse#0557: This is a meme right
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I don't know how you 2 confused lithography vs die size.
Lumaterian#3557: I know I'm memeing
Lumaterian#3557: idk about the other guy
Muse#0557: Not you luma
Lumaterian#3557: ❤️
uoʇsodɾ#2412: They have no correlation.
JustinXenyx#8854: > I don't know how you 2 confused lithography vs die size.
what the fuck are you talking about?
Muse#0557: This is unreal
Muse#0557: He is saying 14nm
Muse#0557: Then sending a pic of the package size |
Muse#0557: As if that's the same thing
Lumaterian#3557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722208951856267344/kisspng-unreal-engine-4-unreal-tournament-computer-icons-v-home-arch-plan-3d-5b6ccec32dd4c9.png
Lumaterian#3557: ffs transparency
Lumaterian#3557: you get the point
Lumaterian#3557: but how can that be 14nm https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722209193301377114/Intel-Core-i7-7700K_RichUK_Delid_6-740x740.png
Lumaterian#3557: when this is 14nm
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Also 14nm vs 28nm has an effect on die size only if there is the same number of transistors in the die.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Less transistors.
Lumaterian#3557: I am choosing to believe you typed that massively incorrectly
Lumaterian#3557: and you're not actually that stupid
Muse#0557: Supposed X79 Broadwell support says overwise
Lumaterian#3557: oh right I forgot about that one lmao
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I did type that incorrectly.
Muse#0557: Jpos I don't want to be mean to you
Muse#0557: But please don't post 20 wrong and stupid things after another |
Muse#0557: It's fine to be wrong
Muse#0557: But don't argue it
uoʇsodɾ#2412: It takes 2 to dance.
Lumaterian#3557: so you've edited it
Muse#0557: I've seen plenty of solo dances
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I had a typo in it.
Lumaterian#3557: and you're saying that 14nm die vs a 28nm with the same number of transistors will be the same size?
uoʇsodɾ#2412: No.
Lumaterian#3557: well that's what it says
uoʇsodɾ#2412: 28nm will be bigger.
Muse#0557: No it doesn't
Lumaterian#3557: I'd sure fuckin hope so
Muse#0557: I can't type
Muse#0557: I was replying to luma
Lumaterian#3557: I think we broke muse |
Muse#0557: Honestly
Muse#0557: Probably
Muse#0557: Yes
Muse#0557: Maybe
Lumaterian#3557: ™️
Muse#0557: Tm
Muse#0557: Lumia is a good nut
Muse#0557: Bruh
Muse#0557: Who ever wanted luma
Muse#0557: Corrected
Muse#0557: To
Muse#0557: Fucking lumia
Muse#0557: Oh it's SwiftKey
Muse#0557: Lmfao
Lumaterian#3557: I am now a Nokia |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: All I am saying with the Die sizes is that a smaller die will have better returns and possibly better bins vs a larger die. The AMD approach to use many smaller dies and a IO die is a creative one and has played in there favor.
Lumaterian#3557: ok good
Lumaterian#3557: that was accurate
Muse#0557: Finally correct
Lumaterian#3557: but we also already knew that
Muse#0557: But completely irrelevant
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Finally reading what I say.
Muse#0557: And adds nothing to what your point earlier
uoʇsodɾ#2412: NM.
Muse#0557: You didn't prove anything
Muse#0557: Just repeated knowledge we all had
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Well the if you know it all what are you doing here?
Muse#0557: It's tech help
Muse#0557: Not tech Wikipedia article
Muse#0557: We are tech helpers |
Muse#0557: Trying to give people proper advice and knowledge
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Good. So am I.
Muse#0557: How's that working out
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Just fine.
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722211731878838323/IMG-20200613-WA0004.jpg
Muse#0557: This is my response
Muse#0557: Since nothing here makes sense anyway
Muse#0557: Goodnight for now gamers
Lumaterian#3557: cya
mish#5687: sometimes, i get random white pixels on windows
mish#5687: they go away after moving the window
mish#5687: help?!?!?!??!!?! is this an artifacting issue??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! should i get a new gpu?!?!?!?!?!!?
mish#5687: also gpu has artifacting issues on stock
scelli#0001: what game
scelli#0001: because if its minecraft |
mish#5687: i get artifacts in ark
scelli#0001: bruh !
mish#5687: random game crashes
scelli#0001: mega bruh !
mish#5687: random white pixels
mish#5687: nfs crashed my gpu so hard it hardlocked
scelli#0001: bake your gpu in an oven
mish#5687: nah its not worth it
mish#5687: the gpu has subpar performance anyways
scelli#0001: do it anyways
scelli#0001: for experience :epicgamer:
mish#5687: it rather just get a 1660s
mish#5687: *id
mish#5687: god why do i spell like a brainlet
scelli#0001: because you have smol brain :crome: |
mish#5687: i mean you're not wrong :crome:
scelli#0001: :crome:
mish#5687: if my dad fulls stops using his 2014 gamer laptop do i use my yoga or the gamer laptop
mish#5687: the gamer laptop is a big chungus
mish#5687: my gpu will probably fully die in the next 6 months
scelli#0001: go commit buy gtx 1660 souper
mish#5687: good idea
scelli#0001: :Yessi:
mish#5687: ill wait for the price drop
mish#5687: in synthetic benches i dont get any issues strangely
mish#5687: certain games run perfectly but its all weird in others
mish#5687: ???
mish#5687: also i have really inconsistent frametimes in anything that isnt from 2018+ or isnt gta 5/crysis/far cry 4
scelli#0001: drivers !
scelli#0001: they aren't paid enough ! |
mish#5687: it should run battlefield v with consistent frametimes
mish#5687: yet it dies trying to do so
mish#5687: sometimes i get around 30fps but thnen i get 20fps
mish#5687: the badly optimized games seem to run really well though
mish#5687: ???
mish#5687: (gta 5 isnt badly optimized)
mish#5687: it runs the outer worlds consistently but tomb raider doesnt hit 60fps all of the time
mish#5687: wtf???????
mish#5687: also fans spin up at random meaning it spikes to 50-90 celsius randomly
mish#5687: wtf??????????
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so my phone just keeps restarting out of nowhere during the day and one or two times a week, and it will just sit on the Samsung screen for about 10 mins. I did a factory reset and it did nothing. My phone is a Samsung Galaxy A7 2018.
D.D.M#8226: The phone also has Gps issues if that also helps
JustinXenyx#8854: I fear your phone has hardware issues and might need to be sent in for repair
D.D.M#8226: Ahh thats bs
D.D.M#8226: My warranty voided last month |
Muse#0557: Sounds like a problem that can't be fixed by tweaking software as Justin said
Muse#0557: Could be a whole number of things
Muse#0557: Since its an A7 its probably cheaper to just buy a new phone
JustinXenyx#8854: If it was software related a full wipe **should** have fixed the issue but obviously it did not
Muse#0557: I would recommend an A50 since its a decent upgrade while staying familiar
D.D.M#8226: Well i know a repair guy near so i will get it to him
Muse#0557: The phone is worth $100
Muse#0557: Repair costs are going to come close to that if its a mobo issue
JustinXenyx#8854: If he can get it fixed then that would likely be worth it to fix
JustinXenyx#8854: He lives in Poland so his market is a little different
Muse#0557: Most people charge just to look at a phone
D.D.M#8226: I bought like last year i choose because i didn't like the notches on the newer A series
D.D.M#8226: Might get a A51
Muse#0557: My friend picked up an a71
Muse#0557: which is just a plus version and he is really enjoying it |
D.D.M#8226: I first thought that the hole punch would give me notch vibes, but my dad bought a note 10 for him and gave it to me to set it up and i liked the look of the hole punch
Muse#0557: honestly its shocking how close the a51 and a71 are to the flagships
Muse#0557: Then you have people recommending the SE instead
Racey#8574: The A90 was a straight step down flagship with all the good jazz
D.D.M#8226: The weird thing is that my previous phone had the same issues
Racey#8574: weird phone but the A80 is hyper wack
D.D.M#8226: I like the a80 but its kind of out of my budget
Racey#8574: I don't like the rear design
Racey#8574: it doesn't scream Samsung to me
Racey#8574: but any phone after the S10 doesn't
Racey#8574: the newer Samsungs just don't give me that old vibe
JustinXenyx#8854: i think that's a wrong way to look at something
JustinXenyx#8854: If you like their old design better sure that's preference, but i don't think that people should be sticking to the past just because they don't like newer and more modern designs
Racey#8574: I prolly forgot to add imo
Racey#8574: because to each their own I just like symmetrical phone designs |
JustinXenyx#8854: The S10 already was pretty ridiculous design-wise, they needed to get a new design going otherwise they would land at some ridiculous shit if they did something like the S20 Ultra if they kept the old design formular
JustinXenyx#8854: Like the S10 etc already looked pretty out of place, just adding more to that is gonna look like a nightmare
Muse#0557: The s20 isn't worth buying imo
Muse#0557: It's not a big enough to justify what's now double the cost of a s10
Muse#0557: If not more
Gryphus One#9917: Hey, sorry to bother you all but anyone able to help?
Was playing games last night when i thought the house was on fire, long story short it's my PC, awfully strong burning smell, doesn't seem linked to load but just gets worse the longer it's on, everything is working fine atm, but obv it's rather worrying!
Gryphus One#9917: CPU and GPU temps were well under control, 50C and 65C when it started, even tried locking the fans to 100% to bring CPU down to 40C and GPU down to 25C and that made no difference to the smell
DarknessFalls229#2286: What PSU do you use?
What are your specs?
Gryphus One#9917: Corsair CX750M
i5 4690K @4.4GHz
R9 Fury
16GB RAM
Gryphus One#9917: If you need anything else lmk |
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmmm
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Alcyone bruh any thoughts on the PSU?
Gryphus One#9917: if it makes any difference I got the PSU 2nd hand a few years ago
DarknessFalls229#2286: sounds like a decent model, temps are fine but it does sound like something is dieing
Gryphus One#9917: I do have a spare CX750
DarknessFalls229#2286: have any idea what component the smell is coming from? general area? or is it just the entire pc thats stanked up
Gryphus One#9917: tried to isolate it but not sure
Gryphus One#9917: If i had to guess I'd say GPU but only cause that has acted up in the past
DarknessFalls229#2286: does your board have onboard graphics?
Gryphus One#9917: Yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: perhaps try to use that for a day and see what happens
Gryphus One#9917: Guess I'll try pulling the GPU then
DarknessFalls229#2286: tthat yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: if the burning smell stops its either your GPU, or your GPU causing something else, probably PSU to do the smelly
Gryphus One#9917: Top tip: turns out the RTGI shader might not be good for your GPU! 😛 |
Gryphus One#9917: Thanks
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also, what cables do you use for your fury, as its a high wattage card
Gryphus One#9917: As in from the PSU to the card?
DarknessFalls229#2286: yes
Gryphus One#9917: Just the standard ones
Gryphus One#9917: don't have any aftermarket cables
DarknessFalls229#2286: but is it like one cable coming from the PSU or two?
Gryphus One#9917: 2 seperate 6 + 2 pins
DarknessFalls229#2286: okay
Gryphus One#9917: let me take a pic might be easier haha
DarknessFalls229#2286: that should be fine
DarknessFalls229#2286: nice
Gryphus One#9917: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722433303969267802/IMG_20200616_135136.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm that is what i was afraid of
DarknessFalls229#2286: youre only using 3 12volt cables essentially |
Gryphus One#9917: O?
DarknessFalls229#2286: theres one cable coming from the PSU splitting into two cables, so essentially you have the bandwidth of 3 12 volt wires
Gryphus One#9917: Ahh
Gryphus One#9917: I see
Gryphus One#9917: Not trying to defend myself when i put it together (after all I'd much rather it just be that than my GPU!) but this is the first time it's done this in the 18 months I've had the Fury
DarknessFalls229#2286: yes, i know, im just trying to rule out things
DarknessFalls229#2286: what are possible causes to such a situation
Gryphus One#9917: Ok fair enough
Gryphus One#9917: well i'll take GPU out anyway later
DarknessFalls229#2286: see if it resolves things and go from there
Gryphus One#9917: Alright thanks
mish#5687: the random white pixels, they're starting to show up on linux too
mish#5687: :crome::crome::crome:
mish#5687: my gpu ded
vegetal#8870: honestly just pop a cap in it |
mish#5687: it wanna die
mish#5687: im gonna be kinda sad since it has done me well
mish#5687: it was a good upgrade from the gt 740 i was rocking before
mish#5687: rip 1050 2017-2020
mish#5687: my gpu wanna die
mish#5687: it wanna die so bad
Alcyone#2233: try underclocking the vram
MarcosCodas#6375: Hey, guys! So, my Dell mobo+CPU combo arrived. Without a cooler. I have an Intel cooler, buuut.... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722518167556980766/IMG_20200616_142811_Large.jpg
MarcosCodas#6375: Any help?
Lumaterian#3557: what socket?
MarcosCodas#6375: 1155
Alcyone#2233: thats a 775 cooler im guessing
MarcosCodas#6375: Huh... I hadn't thought of that! It was just gifted to me
MarcosCodas#6375: The cooler, I jmean
Lumaterian#3557: ah yeah so that cooler won't fit |
Lumaterian#3557: but as for the screw mounts you should be able to remove the socket retention and replace the back piece with a normal one, if you have spares or a dead board laying around
Alcyone#2233: any 115x cooler will fit, they all share the same mounting
DarknessFalls229#2286: @MarcosCodas you can always use zipties
MarcosCodas#6375: @DarknessFalls229 I actually used screws and wires not long ago for a video I made, haha. But I'm trying to keep this one nice-looking, I'm selling it on, hopefully
MarcosCodas#6375: @Alcyone I'll go on the hunt
MarcosCodas#6375: Thank you, guys
MarcosCodas#6375: @Lumaterian no spares, sadly, so I'll look for a 115x cooler
Lumaterian#3557: you can also usually buy a spare socket retention on ebay for like 5$
Lumaterian#3557: or find one that screws in
MarcosCodas#6375: @Lumaterian I live in Paraguay... it's a thing
MarcosCodas#6375: Haha
Lumaterian#3557: oh yikes
Lumaterian#3557: as an american, I can confidently tell you I'm not 100% sure what continent that's on
Lumaterian#3557: south america?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: sa iirc |
Alcyone#2233: I'd ask around in local tech groups if there is any on FB etc. someone might have a stock intel cooler they never used
Alcyone#2233: I have like 2 or 3 around here somewhere, but would cost too much to ship
MarcosCodas#6375: Thank you, guys! I have a friend who might have a spare
MarcosCodas#6375: Hey, so... I was also gifted this yesterday, after asking for it
MarcosCodas#6375: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722538098793382038/IMG_20200616_152311_Large.jpg
MarcosCodas#6375: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722538130497863701/IMG_20200616_152303_Large.jpg
MarcosCodas#6375: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722538132314259546/IMG_20200616_152323_Large.jpg
Muse#0557: Ooft
russ_the_b#5525: hot
Muse#0557: Tech help is a dangerous place.. Don't come here if you are weak
BigPierogi#3368: this place is for the helping of tech
LaeMat#0420: how do i change my username in Ubuntu MATE?
LaeMat#0420: i set it as *myname*@pentiumpc
LaeMat#0420: how do i change it to User?
LaeMat#0420: i'm donating the PC |
LaeMat#0420: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722578386999967804/IMG_1624.jpg
LaeMat#0420: also this
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I'm going to be building my first PC. My budget is 450, but I can go up to 500, no further.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Sorry if I can't put stuff like this in tech help
Muse#0557: of course it goes in tech help
Muse#0557: so you need a pc between those two price points
Muse#0557: A. What is it used for
Muse#0557: B. Do you need just the pc or a setup
Muse#0557: @Dstroyer101ftw
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Setup, but I don't need a crazy good monitor or keyboard
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: That budget is probably overkill for what I'll be using it for, which is mid to low end gaming, but it may also be used by my mother for whatever
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: With my current laptop, it's a miracle to get over 30 frames with how much bloatware is on win10
Ramiere#1840: a friend of mines laptop is stuck with system interrupts at 99% usage anyone know whats causing this or how to fix?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Has he tried updating the drivers and all the other usual things for a problem like this
Ramiere#1840: yeah thats what i suggested but the damn thing reboots itself before he can open anything |
Muse#0557: @Dstroyer101ftw USD, AUD, CAD, GBP?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: USD
Muse#0557: I really would recommend picking up some random old monitor locally if you can
Muse#0557: because a keyboard, mouse and monitor are going to be eatting into that budget
Muse#0557: unless youre going used
Muse#0557: @Dstroyer101ftw
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: yeah theres lots of monitors for cheap round here
MarcosCodas#6375: Hey guys, so... been trying to get the Dell motherboard going. Running into a weird issue on a test bench: it won't power on, but as soon as the PSU is turned on, the fan starts and then stops again
MarcosCodas#6375: Tried different PSU, no CPU fan, different RAM, etc
MarcosCodas#6375: No difference
MarcosCodas#6375: Tried the INTRUDER switch off another Dell, no difference
MarcosCodas#6375: No video output, no posting
Lumaterian#3557: idk why it won't post
Lumaterian#3557: but the fan start then stop thing is normal for some oem boards
Techwen#9205: You've got your standard VGA and DVI of the newer budget options in the benchmarks the handful of games that ran well had to be a large amount of comments telling me how my i5 2400 I was honestly expecting to come out the 40GB HDD for a good budget monitor, even just as a mobile chip which was essentially marketed as a maximum. |
BigPierogi#3368: i agree with techwen
Techwen#9205: I did also look out for a great price of £10.
Muse#0557: What if my standard vga doesn't work
Techwen#9205: Back in the same issue.
Muse#0557: Ik it's the same issue
Muse#0557: But what do i do
BigPierogi#3368: vga not work techwen helP????????????
MarcosCodas#6375: @Lumaterian normal as in what? It happens in a loop without even touching the power button 😦
Lumaterian#3557: oh it does it repeatedly? that's not normal
Lumaterian#3557: some oem systems do it once as soon as power is connected then stay off until powered on
Techwen#9205: Find a graphics card that released in 2007.
Muse#0557: GT 1030 DDR4
Lumaterian#3557: what's this bot's deal?
Techwen#9205: At the end of this setting you back $109, and has now depreciated to the perfectly sized cables, however I think its better if I just show you everything in this video is that there seems to have my binge watching of Green Ham Gaming ritual, yes, I get the 2006 model for virtually the same price which can easily make it stuffy within a confined space.
MarcosCodas#6375: Yeah, it happens in a loop 😦 |
Muse#0557: Go socialise and maybe you'd know
Lumaterian#3557: D:
FuckinReece#0021: anybody know of any good cheap options for a gpu that a guy can get that can out perform a quadro 600
Racey#8574: used RX 570
Racey#8574: idk something I thought off the top of my head
FuckinReece#0021: im thinking cheaper than 50 bucks
MythologicalZ#3752: its not hard to beat a fermi quadro like that
MythologicalZ#3752: could probs slam it with a gts 450 d5
MythologicalZ#3752: or more reasonable, something GCN based like a 7950 etc
Racey#8574: You can maybe get a used GTX 960 if you're lucky
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah, could be an option if you want to avoid amd drivers
Muse#0557: A 960 is now about 70 bucks
Muse#0557: I would a 7950 is your best bet
Muse#0557: Fellas where can I find me a G710+
mish#5687: gpu death |
mish#5687: i tried testing gta 5 and in one test it rained random brown pixels, randomly dropped to 12fps at random and crashed at one point
mish#5687: *the gpu is dead*
MythologicalZ#3752: :crome:
mish#5687: sad indeed!
mish#5687: :crome:
mish#5687: i overclocked it but it was stable in gta 5 before
mish#5687: gpu deth :(((((
Muse#0557: Bruh you've said it close to 100 times now
mish#5687: yes
mish#5687: its sad though
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Did it die?
mish#5687: ive looked into this and graphics drivers did a poopoo
mish#5687: updating them worked
mish#5687: :(
KingGaurav#4771: anyone knows why my bluetooth earphones cause me to lose wifi connectivity on my laptop as soon as i connect them |
KingGaurav#4771: any possible fixes?
LaeMat#0420: how do i install neofetch on manjaro?
Bisexual Billy#9476: @LaeMat
sudo pacman -S git
git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/yay.git
cd yay
makepkg -sic
yay -S neofetch
mish#5687: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585235845305466908/723093531257864262/unknown.png
mish#5687: i get this white dot randomly
mish#5687: on random windows
mish#5687: help!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??!??!?!?!?!??!?
scelli#0001: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!????!?!!!!?!!!?!?!!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
mish#5687: yes
mish#5687: !?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!?!? |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how long does it take for an intel desktop board to do a recovery flash?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: My bios is fucked up and when I plug in a usb with the bios file and try leave it to do recovery, the screen stays at no signal and it just stays on
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i can't believe i'm burning to a dvd
Lady Mipha#0611: @wiryfuture🦀 what format was the usb stick in
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i managed to fix it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: had to use a dvd
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 😦
wiryfuture🦀#1706: for some reason, I've got no video from my hd7950
Clode#2428: should i use a gtx 550ti or just use the vega 8 of a ryzen 3 3200g?
Muse#0557: Do you have both?
Muse#0557: If you only have a 3200g
Muse#0557: Don't buy a 550 ti
Muse#0557: If you already have a 550 ti it's probably the same
Saix856#2556: it depends a lot on your ram too
Clode#2428: i only have a 550ti |
Clode#2428: but im really tempted to buy the 3200g
Saix856#2556: 8 or 16gb of higher speed DDR4 in dual channel using the 3200g integrated will perform MUCH better than using a single 8gb stick of 2666mhz
Clode#2428: cause the prices of the 3300x are really high
Saix856#2556: I'd personally wait for prices of the 3100 or 3300x to go down, because they are considerably better chips, and keep the 550ti until you can afford a better GPU
Muse#0557: Why do you want to buy a 3200g
Muse#0557: Get a 1600
Clode#2428: thank you
Saix856#2556: or that
Saix856#2556: thats a grand idea too
Muse#0557: Buy a 1600 and use the 550 ti until you can upgrade
Saix856#2556: there is a 14nm 1600 and a 12nm 1600(aka the 1600AF) though, so id keep an eye on which one you are buying
Muse#0557: Actually if you're struggling with cash
Muse#0557: I'd go with an ivy i5
Muse#0557: And a rx 470
Muse#0557: Or gtx 960 |
Clode#2428: the 1600 is a ryzen 5 right?
Saix856#2556: the AF is running Zen+ as far as im aware, and performs a little better. With an overclock its a 2600
Saix856#2556: yep
Muse#0557: Clode
Clode#2428: nah i prefeer a newer plantform
Muse#0557: What's your budget
Muse#0557: Beggars cant be choosers
Clode#2428: like 400 or 500
Muse#0557: Being a snob won't get you fps
Muse#0557: Get a 1600AF and a 570
Saix856#2556: eh that'd be enough to start you out with a ryzen setup there for sure
Saix856#2556: yeah that'd be the way to go
Saix856#2556: you can get a new 570 4gb for $120 or so, and a used for $60-90
Saix856#2556: RX 570 I mean
Saix856#2556: Not GTX 570 |
Clode#2428: i know
Clode#2428: the thing is
Clode#2428: if i was to buy that i would like buy it from ebay
Clode#2428: but shipping in my country is like 80euros
Muse#0557: Go with amazon
Muse#0557: Get a month of prime for 10 bucks
Muse#0557: And cancel
Clode#2428: 200 iq
Clode#2428: with prime theres like 0 ports right?
Muse#0557: ?
Clode#2428: you dont pay for the ports
Clode#2428: with prime right?
Muse#0557: Do you mean shipping
Clode#2428: yeah
Muse#0557: Yeah from what I know prime is free shipping everywhere |
Clode#2428: nice
Clode#2428: thank you two
Muse#0557: Big brain plays
Clode#2428: btw nice pfp
Saix856#2556: Thank them more, but no problem
Muse#0557: Ty
Clode#2428: dead by sunrise rocks
Muse#0557: Honestly don't care for the band
Muse#0557: Logo looks cool
Clode#2428: xd
Muse#0557: Ringo starr is where its at
Saix856#2556: *I have so many problems with that*
jk, I get it
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: @Muse so can u help with the 200 pc budget?
Muse#0557: New or used |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I'm cool with going used for the case and monitor, not the other parts
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Of course my mom has just discovered the wonders of Chromebox type machines
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: @Muse
Muse#0557: I5 2400 or Equiv
H61 Motherboard (not oem)
8gb ddr3 (2x4gb)
RX 470/570 (make sure it only needs a 6 pin)
320GB HDD for games
120GB Boot SSD
Fsp/Delta power supply with 6 pin
Random case
Muse#0557: You aren't going to get anything for new
Muse#0557: Beggars cant be choosers
GmGTrials#6729: @Dstroyer101ftw do you have access to a microcenter?
russ_the_b#5525: used 4th gen prebuilt and a used 1050ti |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Is that a store?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Microcenter
GmGTrials#6729: yes
Muse#0557: Russ
Muse#0557: No
GmGTrials#6729: youre in america, yeah?
GmGTrials#6729: and wtf no'
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Yes
Muse#0557: It's not 2017
GmGTrials#6729: 1050ti is garbage
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: French fry land
Muse#0557: That's not that strat
russ_the_b#5525: ok you see upgradability is shit but price for performance is good
NormalChatSimulator#3096: then youll really want to get cheap parts
GmGTrials#6729: do you hate the man? xD |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: What kind of performance could I be getting out of what you suggested, Amuseus
russ_the_b#5525: i will murder the bot
Muse#0557: 1080p High/Ultra
GmGTrials#6729: i mean, if you buy a potato for a dollar, thats technically price to performance isnt it
Muse#0557: Pretty much any game you throw at it
Muse#0557: Going new will barely get you playing fortnite
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Ah
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Right now my performance is extremely low
GmGTrials#6729: @Dstroyer101ftw look up microcenter online
NormalChatSimulator#3096: How much big macs does it cost to get a crown vic as my first car
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Sub 20 frames on tf2 with a max fps plugin
GmGTrials#6729: when i upgraded my PC, i went with a i3-9100, 16gb of ddr4, and a new mb for about $125 open box. it may not be in price range, but its more to show you that if you go open box or used you may find a better deal
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I really have no quarrel with used stuff
GmGTrials#6729: look up the reviews of the Athlon 200GE, youll see a lot of ppl liking it as a APU, but also noting that the used market contains better deals
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: The people who know enough to own that sort of thing usually take care of them |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Should I reply to the bot? I know the answer to that question
russ_the_b#5525: no
russ_the_b#5525: dont encourage it
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I got a cavalier for like
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 100 big macs
Muse#0557: I've giving you a spec list
Muse#0557: If the non tech helpers route doesn't work
Muse#0557: It's a perfect fall back
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Also what kind of thermal paste should I buy
GmGTrials#6729: so ill just addend @Muse and his build
Muse#0557: Artic Mx2 works well
Muse#0557: And it's cheap
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Very cheap
GmGTrials#6729: instead of the cacheless ssd, id swap that and the HDD out for a 1TB 7200RPM HDD
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Anything other than the parts I should buy |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I do prefer HDDs over SSDs
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I guess you could say I am a boomer
Muse#0557: Bruh what
GmGTrials#6729: dont get it confused
Muse#0557: Buy a snickers
GmGTrials#6729: his list was corrected
Muse#0557: They're good
GmGTrials#6729: and SSDs are king. But cheap SSDs are worthless IMO.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Yes
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Snickers are good
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: How do I tell how much pins an rx470 uses
russ_the_b#5525: count them
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Is a pin the rectangular hole on the metal plate, lined adjacent to 5 other rectangular holes. Half of them being slightly shorter?
Muse#0557: H
Muse#0557: U |
Muse#0557: H
russ_the_b#5525: no idea what you are on about
russ_the_b#5525: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/723364240487874620/gtx480_power_connectors.png
russ_the_b#5525: these are the pins you are looking for
russ_the_b#5525: well actually you are just looking for the one on the left
Muse#0557: 💉 💊
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: That's what it looks like
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Got it
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Found one
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: is this one sketchy? https://www.newegg.com/replace-power-rpsu-c95-9/p/1HU-009N-000R3?item=9SIA85V3S62419&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-_-power%20supplies-_-replace%20power-_-9SIA85V3S62419&source=region
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: @Muse sorry if I'm bothering you, but ideally which wattage should I get the power supply at?
mi3night#2562: @Dstroyer101ftw what are ur specs
mi3night#2562: 650w is ideal for a mid range system
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I don't know, I'm just getting stuff off this list
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I5 2400 or Equiv |
H61 Motherboard (not oem)
8gb ddr3 (2x4gb)
RX 470/570 (make sure it only needs a 6 pin)
1TB 7200RPM Toshiba HDD
Random case
mi3night#2562: whats ur budget
mi3night#2562: thats like a $300 pc
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 450
mi3night#2562: what country
mi3night#2562: USA?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: USA
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I'm already at 296
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Currently looking at the insignia 450w ATX12V
mi3night#2562: no no no
mi3night#2562: dont get those psu |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: What brand of power supply should I look for
mi3night#2562: seasonic/corsair but ur budget is so tight
mi3night#2562: get delta
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I've been looking for Delta but all I've seen is replacement brand
BigPierogi#3368: What's the problem with that
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Is there a problem with it?
BigPierogi#3368: Not really
mi3night#2562: rx470/570 draws 150w keep that in mind
BigPierogi#3368: If it has all the connections it needs
BigPierogi#3368: It should be fine
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: So will 500w be okay
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Or too little
mi3night#2562: https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELTA-AC-POWER-SUPPLY-D23504-004-DPS-670DB-670W-REFURBISHED/323825032065?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200520130830%26meid%3Db2c34fd978544a6f8dd0c81bf3ccc6d8%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D223925753678%26itm%3D323825032065%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bDemotion%26brand%3DDelta&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851
mi3night#2562: hows this
SuSSudio#2688: 500W should be okay if you're running everything stock |
mi3night#2562: if ur gonna get a powerful gpu in the future u have to swap that psu out anyways
SuSSudio#2688: Make sure it's atleast 80+ rated
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: What does stock mean
mi3night#2562: so id advise spending a good amount on the psu
mi3night#2562: stock clock speeds
SuSSudio#2688: Stock clocks for the cpu, gpu ram etc
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Yes I will be going at stock clock speeds
mi3night#2562: do u have a ssd atm or no?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I don't want to kill the whole system because I tried to overlook it too hard
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: All I have is a laptop that can't even run tf2 past 20 frames with the highest fps mods available
mi3night#2562: if u want to build a pc u go for ssd first
mi3night#2562: then save up for hdd
SuSSudio#2688: SSD helps with system performance
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Earlier I was told to get an HDD
mi3night#2562: bruh |
mi3night#2562: get a ssd first
mi3night#2562: then save up for hdd
BigPierogi#3368: Ssds are way faster
mi3night#2562: you want a ssd and hdd combo pc
mi3night#2562: also that ssd and hdd is going to stay with u for a long time
mi3night#2562: so yeah
SuSSudio#2688: You'll be booting OS from SSD. Trust me, it's much faster than booting with HDD. Overall system responsiveness is better too
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I'm looking at a Toshiba 1TB 7200 RPM HDD now
mi3night#2562: how much
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 30
SuSSudio#2688: HDD will be preserved for games, & non system data
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: From serversupply.com
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 30 USD
mi3night#2562: great, spend another $20 on a ssd
mi3night#2562: $20 or $30 |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: So get both
mi3night#2562: yes
mi3night#2562: i link u one
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Which SSD
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: okey
mi3night#2562: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-PM871b-128GB-SSD-SATA-6-0Gb-s-2-5-Internal-Solid-State-Drives/383519354199?hash=item594b88ed57:g:83QAAOSwTYFenxhV
mi3night#2562: this is a samsung 960 evo but it's OEM
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Securely erased of all information sounds very sketchy but okay
mi3night#2562: or u can get a BX500
mi3night#2562: but bx500 is dram less
mi3night#2562: soooo it's going to be slower in response times
mi3night#2562: but bx500 is new
BigPierogi#3368: @mi3night I think the bot is learning from here not the other channel
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: is compeve a reliable site
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the bot literally asked me how many big macs could be traded for a cop car |
BigPierogi#3368: 10
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: you could spend 100 big macs on a cavalier instead
mi3night#2562: u need 25 donuts for a cop car
mi3night#2562: anyways
mi3night#2562: yeah get bx500 which is slower but new
mi3night#2562: or pm871 which is faster in response times but used
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=107119
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: how is this for the power supply
mi3night#2562: i mean if u bump ur budget up by like $100 i can make u a ryzen build and u can get a nvme
mi3night#2562: nvme is like 2500/1500
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: its my first build so
mi3night#2562: u want ryzen because upgrade path
mi3night#2562: it's also a newer arch
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so do you guys trust serversupply?
mi3night#2562: so like if u win $400 from a scratch ticket u can upgrade ur cpu to a 3900x |
mi3night#2562: i never had any issues with delta
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 450-500 is my budget
mi3night#2562: but delta is damn loud
mi3night#2562: pc part picker time
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: heres everything im looking at
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: intel i5 2400
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Intel BLKDH61AGL Chipset-H61 Socket-H2 LGA1155 DDR3 Thin Mini-ITX Motherboard
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Samsung 8GB 2Rx4 PC3-10600 Reg LV
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: XFX RX 470
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: TOSHIBA HDD3A02DZK51 1TB 7200RPM refurbished
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: HP DPS-600NB 600 WATT POWER SUPPLY refurbished
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and the afforementioned SSD ebay link
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: what else do I need
mi3night#2562: total?
mi3night#2562: u need a case ofc |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: yeah that too
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: im going to get a case and monitor from le epic thrift store
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: boomer case and boomer monitor
mi3night#2562: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mxyZyk
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Arctic mx-2 thermal paste
mi3night#2562: what about this
mi3night#2562: the ryzen 5 1600af is going to rekt the i5 2400
mi3night#2562: add ur psu, case and hdd
mi3night#2562: see how much it's gonna cost
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I still dont know what a psu is
mi3night#2562: power supply unit
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: how do I add a link into the pc builder
mi3night#2562: the gray button
mi3night#2562: right next to price tag
mi3night#2562: also on the ram thing i put 8gb by accident |
mi3night#2562: it was supposed to be 2x8gb
mi3night#2562: so like $70 for ram
mi3night#2562: ohhhh @Dstroyer101ftw by a SSD from @TheFifthAce
BigPierogi#3368: He sold them all
BigPierogi#3368: In 1 day
mi3night#2562: burh
mi3night#2562: it was way too cheap
mi3night#2562: someone maybe bought it and resold them all on ebay lol
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: yeah I just want to know if the list I put is all I need for a pc
mi3night#2562: i5 2400 is like $200-300 pcs
mi3night#2562: ur budget is $450-500
mi3night#2562: u can afford a ryzen pc
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: intel i5 2400
Intel BLKDH61AGL Chipset-H61 Socket-H2 LGA1155 DDR3 Thin Mini-ITX Motherboard
Samsung 8GB 2Rx4 PC3-10600 Reg LV |
XFX RX 470
TOSHIBA HDD3A02DZK51 1TB 7200RPM refurbished
HP DPS-600NB 600 WATT POWER SUPPLY refurbished
Samsung PM871b 128GB SSD
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: arctic mx-2
mi3night#2562: how much is that in total
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and thrift store monitor/case
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: let me whip out the calculator
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 323 dollars
mi3night#2562: thats like 70% of ur budget
mi3night#2562: just get ryzen at this point lol
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: monitor, case, keyboard, mouse, and headset also fit into the budget
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: any old keyboard should work, so long as its not chinesium, right?
mi3night#2562: it should work if it has usb
mi3night#2562: and ps2 |
mi3night#2562: $323 is way lesser than ur $450 budget
mi3night#2562: plus keyboard mouse monitor it's gonna be like $360
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the mobo is an Intel BLKDH61AGL Chipset-H61 Socket-H2 LGA1155 DDR3 Thin Mini-ITX
mi3night#2562: mini itx?
mi3night#2562: jesus
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: idk if that has usb or ps2
mi3night#2562: hey eh
mi3night#2562: u should look at that pc part picker list i sent u
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i did, I dont know how to add things to it via link
mi3night#2562: ok so basically r5 1600af $105
b450m mobo $70
16gb ddr4 $70
mi3night#2562: how much is that plus all ur other parts you've picked out
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: taking out the other mobo
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 215 (what I have picked) plus 245 |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: around 460
mi3night#2562: hey that should be your budget
mi3night#2562: trust me r5 1600 is WAY faster
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: whats the r5150af
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 1600*
SuSSudio#2688: 12nm refresh of the ryzen 5 1600
mi3night#2562: ryzen 5 2600 but with a ryzen 5 1600 SMC
mi3night#2562: system management controller
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: yeah my standards are like
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: really low
mi3night#2562: i mean
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 40 fps on medium settings is far better than what i've been gaming on my whole life
mi3night#2562: for $130 more ur getting a cpu thats like 2 or 3 times faster than ur i5 2400
mi3night#2562: and it's still in ur budget which is $450-500
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: its 15 dollars |
mi3night#2562: also ur getting 16gb of ram
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the i5 is 15 dollars man
BigPierogi#3368: So
SuSSudio#2688: For comparison, i5 2400 probably only had one advantage, latency. But R5 1600 is no disastrous FX series you heard in mid 2010s
BigPierogi#3368: If you can fit something better in your budget
BigPierogi#3368: Why wouldnt you
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: because I also need to put other things into that budget
mi3night#2562: i5 2400 is REALLY cheap but it's also kinda of a shit at the same time for ur budget
mi3night#2562: i5 2400 is for people with $300 budgets
SuSSudio#2688: It has 6 cores, haswell-like IPC, & most importantly upgrade path
mi3night#2562: so yeah it's a i7 5820k at 3.5ghz @Dstroyer101ftw
mi3night#2562: so it's a fast boi
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the budget is 500 for pc + monitor + keyboard + speakers/headset
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: my current mouse is a walmart travel mouse
mi3night#2562: monitor should be like $20 max |
mi3night#2562: cuz goodwill
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: goodwill here only has clothes
mi3night#2562: oh
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the one that has monitors is run by the local church
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: goodwill here does satisfy my crippling addiction to military surplus though
mi3night#2562: goodwill here is a gold mine
mi3night#2562: i got my pc from there
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: most of the pc stuff here is early 2000s to late 90s
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: all boomer stuff
mi3night#2562: im in LA so a lot of college drop outs
mi3night#2562: and millennials
mi3night#2562: that means modern day tech deals
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I live in the rust belt so
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: not many millenials or college types
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: despite the fact its a college town |
SuSSudio#2688: Well if 60fps all you want for game i5 2400 is already a solid deal
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 60fps blows my expectations out of the water
SuSSudio#2688: $15 is really a good deal, hell i can't even get one for your price in my country
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: you show me that and its like showing charlemagne a microwave
mi3night#2562: i mean i5 2400 is like r3 1200
SuSSudio#2688: You'd only miss out on platform support & upgrade path
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: cant I just get a new cpu?
mi3night#2562: i7 2600 is like ryzen 5 2400g iirc
SuSSudio#2688: ^^
SuSSudio#2688: You can also have ivy bridge series chip
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: also can you guys explain how copies of an OS work?
SuSSudio#2688: ie i5 3440, i7 3770
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I got the windows 10 minecraft edition
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and its currently on my laptop
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: can I just download it again onto the SSD? |
SuSSudio#2688: that's the first time i heard a specialized edition of windows lol
SuSSudio#2688: don't think microsoft had such edition tbh
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: basically, minecraft owners before 2015 got a free copy of windows 10
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: home
SuSSudio#2688: Windows 10 only comes in : Home, Professional, Education, Enterprise
SuSSudio#2688: Ah alright
SuSSudio#2688: You'd might grab cheap win 10 home/pro keys online for your i5 2400 build
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: sorry, before 2018
SuSSudio#2688: it's only $5-6 iirc
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: am I able to legally copy a copy
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: also heres the link to the announcement, for anyone interested https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/ancient-java-players--you-attention-please-
SuSSudio#2688: Your copy is probably tied to a single device
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I would try to go with a AM4 CPU for better platform support. Like one of there APU's. Not so sure about the upgrade path with DDR5 on the horizon. The i7/i5 2ed gen is not a bad CPU but will lack support an optimizations that a AM4 CPU gets.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: nope, offer is up
SuSSudio#2688: So you won't be able to verify on another (it'll simply just says used product key) |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: it is tied to my device
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: there is no product key
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so why can't I upgrade with an intel i5
mi3night#2562: i mean if i were u i get r5 1600
uoʇsodɾ#2412: You can. But only do so if the price is right.
mi3night#2562: because i5 2400 is like 9 years out of date lol
mi3night#2562: but
mi3night#2562: do whatever makes you happy
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: its 15 dollars
mi3night#2562: : )
mi3night#2562: fair enough
mi3night#2562: well
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the price is very much indeed right
SuSSudio#2688: I could see his point
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: of course its 200 new and the ryzen is 73 new |
SuSSudio#2688: We're just suggesting stuff
uoʇsodɾ#2412: $15 is a good buy for a 2ed gen i5.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and I cant just take it out and put in a new cpu later?
SuSSudio#2688: A 'new' cpu you can put will only be the ones supporting the socket
mi3night#2562: if u swap a cpu it would be i7 2600
mi3night#2562: i7 2600 is expensive at $60 and is shit imo
mi3night#2562: it's like r3 3100 divide by hafl
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so its possible to upgrade from intel i5 to intel i7 but not from intel i5 to ryzen r5
SuSSudio#2688: Nope, it's on a whole different platform & socket
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: but i can just put in the ryzen r5 from the start and not have to worry
SuSSudio#2688: you'd need an AM4 motherboard, and the type of pin ryzen cpu are using is PGA (pin grid array) unlike intel's (Land Grid Array)
uoʇsodɾ#2412: After a part get beyond 10 years old everything stops supporting it. It can still run new stuff but will be power-creeped at a faster pace.
mi3night#2562: more like 2 years for intel
mi3night#2562: @Dstroyer101ftw nope amd has their own boards intel have their own
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Software support not HW support. |
mi3night#2562: you can't just put a amd cpu into a intel socket
mi3night#2562: they're not interchangeable
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so since I have an intel mobo I must use the intel i5
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: this is the mobo btw
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.newegg.com/p/1JW-000T-00254?Item=9SIAJZY91C7121&Description=intel%20h61%20motherboard&cm_re=intel_h61_motherboard-_-9SIAJZY91C7121-_-Product
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Unless you have that magic socket that is no longer relevant.
SuSSudio#2688: Correct, you can only swap between i series 2nd & 3rd gen skus
SuSSudio#2688: you can't put 4th, 5th, all the way up to 10th gen i series in h61 motherboard
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so I cant put the i5 in that mobo?
mi3night#2562: @Dstroyer101ftw $100 is way tooo much
SuSSudio#2688: You can put 2nd gen & 3rd gen i5 in that mobo
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: is there a better intel mobo for that 100$ price range that suits my needs?
SuSSudio#2688: B75 & H77 chipset mobos
SuSSudio#2688: for 1155 socket. anything newer will set you back further
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: this? https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwja_d3G_IzqAhUS1sAKHbTODkgYABAGGgJpbQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQeD2rvwCkXXgAZsfqGe4hyBL_CC7j6FZc6Sl7Fhm083CNMJYPaVjeWDR7REKVXQMUfjjk8xgQD0rFtmAUIuvfSZt&sig=AOD64_3LaSe07Kyc6eG_Upw78KZbcFLHdg&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiE_tPG_IzqAhXWF80KHYa6Cu8Q9aACegQIDBA2&adurl= |
SuSSudio#2688: yeah
SuSSudio#2688: But that's too much
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: theres also this mobo https://www.ebay.com/p/1037884362?iid=282274359241&chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=282274359241&targetid=915852593453&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9017370&poi=&campaignid=9343999104&mkgroupid=96003384673&rlsatarget=pla-915852593453&abcId=1139336&merchantid=101678748&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoaz3BRDnARIsAF1RfLe3hsqSA1reTFbsuqjK5Iyaqk402549U3JwdPYbiK5lRsjjWSTcL0IaAhuIEALw_wcB&thm=10
SuSSudio#2688: you'd better off with ryzen at that price point
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: ive found the same thing for 40
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-1200-vs-Intel-i7-3770K/3029vs2
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: its shipping from hong kong though
mi3night#2562: yeah that's not accurate @uoʇsodɾ
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so idk if itll come through
mi3night#2562: 3770k destroys the r3 1200
SuSSudio#2688: you'll end up waiting months ordering from hk
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: yes
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-1200/1317vs3931
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i know
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: especially with whats going on now |
mi3night#2562: why wouldnt u get ryzen tho @Dstroyer101ftw
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so should I go for the h77 or the b75
mi3night#2562: intel is not worth it in 2020 lol
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the whole pc is built around intel
SuSSudio#2688: H77 only if you can get it under $50
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i dont know
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I really just dont know
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: This is my first build and I have no idea whats going on
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: all I know is the dude with the red name gave me a list and i just looked for stuff on it
mi3night#2562: why would someone give i5 2400 to a $500 budget pc
mi3night#2562: wtf
uoʇsodɾ#2412: What case do you have? What performance in which software/games are you looking for. What's your budget?
SuSSudio#2688: 500$ is combined with peripherals
mi3night#2562: yes
mi3night#2562: still |
SuSSudio#2688: it's not only the tower point blank
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: budget 500, no case, the best performance possible
mi3night#2562: for $400 u can sell get a still decent ryzen pc
mi3night#2562: @TheFifthAce u here we need some kek support
mi3night#2562: r5 1400 is pretty decent for like $80
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the one guy before told me that I could get 60 fps at 1080p and high settings
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: with the list he gave me
mi3night#2562: ofc
mi3night#2562: rx470 is going to deliver 60fps
mi3night#2562: but thats the best cpu u can have with i5 2400
mi3night#2562: if ur upgrading ur gpu in the near future u need a better cpu cuz ur going to run into bottleneck. A new cpu means new ram and new motherboard too
mi3night#2562: so yeah
mi3night#2562: r3 1200/r5 1400 is a better choice imo
SuSSudio#2688: The video card is already good enough for most games, it's just the platform & the cpu some of members called up against
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so razen will offer better performance at a cheaper cost with capacity to upgrade |
mi3night#2562: it's just how many years u can use that cpu for
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the most modern title I play is roblox
SuSSudio#2688: Yes indeed
mi3night#2562: r5 1600 is going to last u another 5 years because 6 cores/ 12 threads
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: which I can squeeze 30fps out of at the lowest graphical settings
mi3night#2562: i5 2400 is going to last u like 2 years because it's already a 9 year old cpu
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: more like 20 realistically
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so I just wipe everything I have now and start from the beginning
mi3night#2562: also if u want a better cpu on ryzen u can just upgrade to the newest cpu like r5 3600/3700x but with intel ur looking at upgrading ur entire pc
mi3night#2562: so yeah
mi3night#2562: it's ur choice
mi3night#2562: u be saving $130 or so but it ain't gonna last u in a long run
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: its still within my budget
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xVzvFG
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: who cares if I have a 20 dollar logitech and a poopoo monitor when I get upgradability |
SuSSudio#2688: Even with 1st gen ryzen midnight mentioned earlier would drastically bump the framerate enough to play comfortably
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Not complete but I would start with this.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so I take that list and delete everything I have now
mi3night#2562: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NgJydcLQbc
mi3night#2562: see it for urself
mi3night#2562: wait
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: it says Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Picasso CPUs
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I will never be playing rdr2
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: maybe gta5
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: but thats the most modern title i have
mi3night#2562: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w9KMNq
mi3night#2562: here
SuSSudio#2688: I believe current batches already comes preinstalled with the latest bios
mi3night#2562: @Dstroyer101ftw get the r5 1600af
mi3night#2562: better cpu |
mi3night#2562: look at that list
SuSSudio#2688: Just look out for (2nd gen ryzen support) in the bottom corner of the box
SuSSudio#2688: if it says so then you're good
mi3night#2562: b
uoʇsodɾ#2412: @mi3night Needs a case. And a OS.
mi3night#2562: OS is like $5
mi3night#2562: and case is like ends up being $40
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Still need to add it.
mi3night#2562: orrrrrrr
mi3night#2562: get it from goodwill
mi3night#2562: i mean
mi3night#2562: thrift store
SuSSudio#2688: you can use early 00s beige case if you want lol
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: thats the plan macho man
SuSSudio#2688: so you can surprise friends in case they come to your home |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: friends
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pdprxr/deepcool-matrexx-30-microatx-mini-tower-case-matrexx-30
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: yeah haha
mi3night#2562: just get a case from thrift store for like $3
mi3night#2562: idk
mi3night#2562: i got my case at a goodwill for $15
mi3night#2562: pretty good case ngl
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: ok but like
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: that pcparts list takes up my whole budget
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and I still need peripherals and a power supply
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I'm picky about my cases. Mostly they need to have some form of intake.
SuSSudio#2688: 2 intake meshes & an exhaust should be enough
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: knife and strong arm make intake
SuSSudio#2688: clever idea
mi3night#2562: https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Ryzen-5-1400-Quad-Core-8-Thread-3-2GHz-8MB-Socket-AM4-Desktop-Processor-CPU/153974801993?hash=item23d99d0649:g:9TsAAOSwzLNe6khB @Dstroyer101ftw get this cpu then use the $20 u saved and get a cheap keyboard and mouse combo |
mi3night#2562: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-AMD-Radeon-RX-470-4GB-GDDR5-PCI-E-DVI-D-UEFI-QUAD-FIRMWARE/283875422194?hash=item42184b2ff2:g:zbIAAOSwih9eug1F
mi3night#2562: also get this
mi3night#2562: use the $15 saved to get a monitor
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Yes. Get Used CPU and GPU.
mi3night#2562: yep
mi3night#2562: get used
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the second one is 8 core
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i was looking at it earlier
mi3night#2562: 8 core?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 8
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: whatever
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the power supply thingy
mi3night#2562: what cpu is it
mi3night#2562: oh
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i found the same one at 6 but for 90 |
mi3night#2562: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-Electronics-DPS-600MB-A-REV-04-600W-ATX-POWER-SUPPLY-C44675-009/293424262728?hash=item445172ee48:g:Kj8AAOSwI4teHh3n:sc:USPSPriority!91745!US!-1
mi3night#2562: this boy
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i found one by HP for 30 dollars
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Used HDD can be very good. I got 8 2TB 7200RPM Drives for $18 each.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: same wattage
uoʇsodɾ#2412: A 256GB MX 500 is also VERY FAST for it's price.
mi3night#2562: Get Samsung pm951 256gb
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I am going to start completely from scratch on a ryden, what can I do to get that at like 350-400 so that I have 50-100 to spend on peripherals
mi3night#2562: Samsung pm951 is used tho
mi3night#2562: Sad but yeah
mi3night#2562: I mean 2000/1000 fast boi
mi3night#2562: @Dstroyer101ftw use that list I give u but replace the cpu with r3 1200 u can get on eBay for like $60
mi3night#2562: Then ur good
mi3night#2562: Actually
mi3night#2562: Downgrade to 8gb ram if u want to |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: thats like really far up
mi3night#2562: Far up?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: looking for the list in search
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: it also has no power supply
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Quad core Ryzen on a micro ATX MoBo in a Micro ATX case. Case needs at least a 120mm intake that is unhindered. (No glass/plastic. Fan filters and a mesh is OK).
uoʇsodɾ#2412: 500W PSU with a 80+ rating. GPU can be a RX card with 4GB of VRAM. I found a RX 480 8GB for $95.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: very helpful
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: thank you
mi3night#2562: Rx470 4gb for $70 is a better deal imo
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Fast RAM but any faster than 3200 will not give much performance increase. Ryzen 1 is more sensitive to this than Ryzen 2.
mi3night#2562: I hav better experience with xmp than amd shit
mi3night#2562: DOCP some gay shit like that
uoʇsodɾ#2412: 8GB is enough but get 2 sticks.
mi3night#2562: 8gb is enough but 16 is the sweet spot
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: cant I just use an old tan case |
mi3night#2562: I personally use 32
mi3night#2562: You could
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Yes.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: good
mi3night#2562: Sleeper pc
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so far I have this and this
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-socket-am4-usb-3-1-gen-1-amd-motherboard-with-led-lighting/6409173.p?acampID=633495&cmp=RMX&loc=xWuSRcTyoxyOUEo0MKVSfWfHUkiyRRVVRRwl2U0&ref=198&refdomain=pcpartpicker.com&skuId=6409173
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.ebay.com/i/254611315243?chn=ps
uoʇsodɾ#2412: An old dell case that conforms to the ATX form factor would also work. (Most don't and need the IO panel cut out.)
mi3night#2562: $65 plus 72
mi3night#2562: Math time
mi3night#2562: $117
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 137
mi3night#2562: Fuck
mi3night#2562: Sry for cussing lol |
mi3night#2562: $137 ok now get ur ram
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i am telling my mommy on u
mi3night#2562: Oh no I give u my bag of Cheetos
mi3night#2562: Don’t tell mommy
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: two 8gb AMD ram sticks
mi3night#2562: Ok ok which ones
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: is that what i am supposed to go look for
mi3night#2562: Ddr4 3200mhz
uoʇsodɾ#2412: You are lucky RAM is cheep today. I reimber when DDR4 16GB was like $200.
SuSSudio#2688: are you going 16GB?
SuSSudio#2688: Or 2x4GB?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i guess
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 2x8
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: two 8 gb sticks
SuSSudio#2688: off to a good start |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: would it be better to have one 8gb stick or two 4 gb sticks
uoʇsodɾ#2412: 2 4GB for gaming.
SuSSudio#2688: dual channel is a must so two 4gbs
mi3night#2562: https://www.ebay.com/itm/193522620223
mi3night#2562: This doe
mi3night#2562: But yeah get 2x4 if u want
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: DDr4 sticks right
SuSSudio#2688: Of course
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Correct.
mi3night#2562: Yes
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: le epic glowing ddr4
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwir5qfQhI3qAhVS1sAKHfoWDUkYABAGGgJpbQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQeD28MqXjD3QiGC6wCb4qpIUBfv2flJLDBcrYRXAC1wiG9SVysAaRomExFTdAWj9hrutVxDTMCvwgvsgAjH7gynO&sig=AOD64_0JGTNTDD9CZapU2nGsthCG3YYy-w&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjuu5rQhI3qAhXgB50JHbAaARUQ9aACegQIDhA4&adurl=
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the mobo already glows
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: might as well
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: theres this for only 20 |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwir5qfQhI3qAhVS1sAKHfoWDUkYABANGgJpbQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQeD28MqXjD3QiGC6wCb4qpIUBfv2flJLDBcrYRXAC1wiG9SVysAaRomExFTdAWj9hrutVxDTMCvwgvsgAjH7gynO&sig=AOD64_3ik4xIkgB3UyvMsVUfDbXTlUeUdw&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjuu5rQhI3qAhXgB50JHbAaARUQ9aACegQIDhBf&adurl=
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: oh nvm
SuSSudio#2688: Sure but you'd need a full transparent side panel to enjoy the show
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: from china
SuSSudio#2688: So no early 00s beige boxes
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: is there a way I can just turn off the rgb
mi3night#2562: u dont have to
mi3night#2562: i have a great idea if u have experience in engineering
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: minimal
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i was good at building in engineering class but not coding
mi3night#2562: cut the side panel of the beige case and put a glass on it
SuSSudio#2688: ^^^
mi3night#2562: lmfao
SuSSudio#2688: Acrylic is better imo
mi3night#2562: yeah |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Easer to cut.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I would have preferred cling wrap
SuSSudio#2688: i've seen many cases of shattered glasses
SuSSudio#2688: & that's terrifying
mi3night#2562: tbh
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: but seriously is there a way to just turn off the rgb on the mobo
mi3night#2562: is 32gb ram overkill
mi3night#2562: idk
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: very much so
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i literally exclusively play roblox, tf2, and gmod
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and maybe ill try gta5 once I get this pc
mi3night#2562: u can play rdr2
mi3night#2562: modern warfare
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: im currently at a point where crusader kings 2 runs at 20 fps
mi3night#2562: oh so console experience |
mi3night#2562: jk jk
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: say what you want but my 1st gen ps4 runs fortnite at 60fps
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-AMD-Radeon-RX-480-RX-480-GAMING-4G-4GB-GDDR5-GREAT-CONDITION/124227461180?epid=231964926&hash=item1cec88a03c:g:HiAAAOSwab5e0X4u
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: sadly, it is capped at 60
mi3night#2562: so does mine
mi3night#2562: ps4 is a good console tho
mi3night#2562: for $300
mi3night#2562: but it's a fucking console
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: ps4 just does what the ps2 did but better
SuSSudio#2688: Console for the sake of practicality
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: ps3 was its own thing that we all should forget
mi3night#2562: consoles are ez and headache free
mi3night#2562: unlike pc
mi3night#2562: u need to have a brain to build a pc
mi3night#2562: something that kids lack of |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: ps2 didnt come close to xbox, but ps4 went toe to toe with it
SuSSudio#2688: Yes that's what i'm trying to point out
mi3night#2562: and kids cant even put together a fucking ikea furniture
SuSSudio#2688: Doesn't mean i'm saying console better than pc
mi3night#2562: how tf are they gonna build a pc
SuSSudio#2688: It has its OWN place
mi3night#2562: ok
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: its like comparing knitting string to 550 paracord
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: both have their niches although one is capable of far more than the other
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and also the pc has more leds so obviously its better
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Sometimes a OME system will be cheaper and have most of the parts you want like a PSU, CPU, RAM, and Mobo.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: how good is the rx 480
SuSSudio#2688: RX 570 good
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: that jposton sent
SuSSudio#2688: Also be wary of ex mining cards |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: ebay be like: shipping from ghuanzhou china FREE
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: shipping from town over: 11 dollar
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: why should I be wary of ex mining cards, they be burnt out?
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Rx 480 = Rx 570.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: RX 580 is like an OC RX 570.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: what kind of performance will I get from rx480, say from TF2
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: max graphics\
mi3night#2562: about
mi3night#2562: 400fps
mi3night#2562: idk i got 700fps in cs source
SuSSudio#2688: not with R3 1200
mi3night#2562: oh yeah
mi3night#2562: i forgot
uoʇsodɾ#2412: TF2 is not hard to run.
mi3night#2562: i have a r7 3700x |
mi3night#2562: lol moments
mi3night#2562: silly me
SuSSudio#2688: :DontgetDoneGetDom:
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: you say that but I had choppy framerate on half life
SuSSudio#2688: that's your laptop
mi3night#2562: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O2kAIZgPlo
mi3night#2562: here
mi3night#2562: watch this
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: this is helpful, thank you
mi3night#2562: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQdKHu8I_fY
mi3night#2562: gta5
SuSSudio#2688: eh i thought 1200af are hard to find
SuSSudio#2688: I wouldn't like him returning with og 1200
mi3night#2562: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdYIhA9GLvs
mi3night#2562: if ur a 9yo |
SuSSudio#2688: that be an oof moment
mi3night#2562: sooooo yeah
mi3night#2562: all the games u mentioned would be destroyed by the rx480
mi3night#2562: cuz rx480 is that powerful
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: perfect
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and it is only slightly more pricy than the previous card
mi3night#2562: but rx480 once said: i fear no fan, but that thing (2560x1440 gaming).... it scares me @Dstroyer101ftw
mi3night#2562: thats why i upgraded from rx580 to gtx1080ti
SuSSudio#2688: ^^^
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 2559x1439
SuSSudio#2688: it's a 1080p video card
mi3night#2562: when i upgraded to 1440p i was like holy shit im getting like 25fps in rdr2
mi3night#2562: i was like nah nah im buying a new gpu
SuSSudio#2688: Wait i thought you bought RX 5700 XT midnight
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I usually run everything in 720 |
mi3night#2562: driver issues killed me @SuSSudio
SuSSudio#2688: ah
mi3night#2562: dont get rx5700xt guys
mi3night#2562: someone pin this
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: you guys are making this fun
mi3night#2562: id rather game on a fucking macbook then 5700xt
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: friend games on a macbook
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: he just finished his pc yesterday
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwioxKqTiI3qAhVS8MAKHRpbAf8YABAGGgJpbQ&sig=AOD64_2YfvTzXJMJz61ixgmPSzQNMtsq3w&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwjO1KSTiI3qAhVXVs0KHfHwCyMQww8IywQ&adurl=
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-ASRock-X470-Gaming-K4/324189210622?hash=item4b7b2ec7fe:g:YfUAAOSw-1te2nFn
mi3night#2562: gaming on a macbook is fighting in battlefield with a knife
gaming on a 5700xt is like fighting in a battlefield but the gun looks like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/723397397887189062/main-qimg-769f2f6ac1ceadc537c78dc51a5f09b7.png
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: what performance will I get on that, JPoston?
mi3night#2562: ryzen 5 2600 is like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flqIaZR93jQ |
mi3night#2562: @Dstroyer101ftw use this vid
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: better or worse than rx480 and B450M
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Ryzen 5 is better than Ryzen 3. It's just a cpu and Mobo but still a good deal.
mi3night#2562: ryzen 5 is like 20fps extra
mi3night#2562: buttt
mi3night#2562: out of budget
SuSSudio#2688: yeah his budget is very strict
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/723397962591502358/Annotation_2020-06-18_214506.png
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so now I have mobo, gpu, cpu, and RAM
SuSSudio#2688: Still better than i5 2400 & H61
mi3night#2562: me closing chrome be like
mi3night#2562: windows is high it's displaying 2133mhz
mi3night#2562: buttt
mi3night#2562: i have 3200mhz
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: currently at 257 |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: USD
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: next I need storage
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: SSD and HDD
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: do intel and AMD use different HDDs and SSDs?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and PSUs?
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Mx 500 SSD and 1 or 2 TB HDD.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=208430&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoaz3BRDnARIsAF1RfLcwNUyd-fQo5-9CuLKF07wsHjoRnEx3samNfD5Z2MkkK_Lt6bxlc0caApOAEALw_wcB
uoʇsodɾ#2412: No. I would stick to SATA drives.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 1tb hdd
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and heres the SATA
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-PM871b-128GB-SSD-SATA-6-0Gb-s-2-5-Internal-Solid-State-Drives/383519354199?hash=item594b88ed57:g:83QAAOSwTYFenxhV
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I find 128GB boot drive to be very tight.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: are PSUs interchangable between AMD and Intel?
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Yes.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: good |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: this a gucci power supply?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=107119
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I tend to stick to Seasonic and EVGA gold and above PSU's. Can't speak for OME PSU's ask midnight.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: @mi3night
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so where can I find windows 10 for 5 dollars?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: ive actually found windows 10 in the dollar general before btw
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: dollar general windows 10 is 79.99
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key $30 and you'll need to call Microsoft to get it working. Don't know about the $5 one.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: im already getting SSD ads on my phone
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: looks like midnight is already offline
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: rip
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I've used Kinguin before. They are legit. I'm about to go offline to.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: okay, well all I need is a PSU
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: whats the cheapest psu you would recommend
uoʇsodɾ#2412: one sec |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: New https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zbkj4D/thermaltake-smart-series-430-w-80-certified-atx-power-supply-ps-spd-0430npcwus-w
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Let me look up used.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: thx
Alcyone#2233: cheapest psu I would use is an 80+ bronze from a reputable company
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 80+ bronze?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: one im looking at is 80
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: ill get the new thermaltake
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Power-Supply-Rosewill-Gaming-Xtreme-RX630-S-B-PSU-630W/303600268321?hash=item46affc7421:g:3QAAAOSw8UBe6~Jc
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Second what Alcyone said.
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: yeah id rather get the new one
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: im stil good enough on the budget for a monitor, speakers/headset, and case
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: thank you all for your help
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Goodnight
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Goodnight.
mi3night#2562: im back |
mi3night#2562: oh
mi3night#2562: for the psu id rather get dell and delta for OEM
Lady Mipha#0611: fsp also
mi3night#2562: yeah
vegetal#8870: delta airlines
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: well i have everything ready to order for now
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Can't wait to come back here when I build it
mi3night#2562: Yay
Bertie Kemp#1114: Got a Ryzen 5 3600 with a Be quiet Pure Rock 2 cpu cooler, but when i do an Aida64 stress test, the cpu will run at 4GHz, the diode will be at 90 degrees, and the cpu will be at 81 degrees. Is this normal?
D.D.M#8226: Did you seat the cooler properly?
D.D.M#8226: That could be the problem
TheFifthAce#4128: @mi3night i have more
TheFifthAce#4128: @Dstroyer101ftw if you dont wanna go ryzen I can hook you up with a prebuilt for cheap
TheFifthAce#4128: you can put a xeon in that board for cheap
TheFifthAce#4128: like 20$ for an e3 1230 which is almost an i7 2600 |
TheFifthAce#4128: everything that people have suggested for you so far is just cring
TheFifthAce#4128: 325 for the tower can get you MUCH better than i5 8gb rx 470 @Dstroyer101ftw
TheFifthAce#4128: or you could get similar performance for cheaper
TheFifthAce#4128: Like if you stretch your budget a tiny bit more you can find stuff like this already built. And that's already built. If you are going just by looking for parts you can find better deals https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-T5810-Gaming-PC-Desktop-E5-1620V3-16GB-DDR4-240GB-SSD-RX-480-Win10/324163993476?hash=item4b79adff84%3Ag%3AvkoAAOSw0YxerCg4&LH_BIN=1 @Dstroyer101ftw
TheFifthAce#4128: and like I said I can definitely hook you up with something for cheaper
TheFifthAce#4128: I dont know why midnight is able to talk here because he is cring
mi3night#2562: @TheFifthAce cuz I’m bored ok. Some tech helper told him to get i5 2400 with a 1tb hdd with no ssd for a $400 pc. I’m telling him how bad of a idea that is and he should get Ryzen and a ssd/hdd combo instead
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I feel like this could have been better lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/723590634413359214/unknown.png
Muse#0557: :/
Muse#0557: 🥴
wiryfuture🦀#1706: is it worth spending £5 to decrease CAS latency?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 22 -> 16
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah christ, cl22 is garbage
wiryfuture🦀#1706: on 3200mhz
wiryfuture🦀#1706: okay |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't know what difference it makes
wiryfuture🦀#1706: enlighten me
MythologicalZ#3752: a big enough one at 22 vs 16 to justify 5 pounds
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ok
DarknessFalls229#2286: i bought the cheapest 3000MHz kit and even that does 16 appearently https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/723597588460339300/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/723598242784346112/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm thinking of building myself this
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/philip_chan_/saved/cH3LP6
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I've already got an ssd, some hard drives, a power supply and a gpu
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my current cpu, mobo and memory is meme
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ops?
MythologicalZ#3752: single channel on 14nm zen is a bit cringe, a320 even with max is not getting zen 3 support
MythologicalZ#3752: otherwise doesnt look terrible
wiryfuture🦀#1706: alr
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I just want it to work rn, dual channel for later when i'm not worried about my laptop as well |
TheFifthAce#4128: dont get an a230m-a pro
TheFifthAce#4128: its just a pro m2
TheFifthAce#4128: which is fucking awful
wiryfuture🦀#1706: huh?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: elaborate
TheFifthAce#4128: 3 phase bare vrm
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/723604500513816586/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i guess?
TheFifthAce#4128: while they're 55a phases I've had so much trouble with those boards dying under pbo/xfr
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what other motherboard could I get around such a low price point?
TheFifthAce#4128: and that a320 doesnt support ram above 2666
TheFifthAce#4128: theres no ocing on a320
wiryfuture🦀#1706: so what would you suggest?
TheFifthAce#4128: whatever b350/b450 you can get cheapest used that isn't a prime or a pro m2
TheFifthAce#4128: if you need to go new, the b450m HDV is still bare vrm but I haven't managed to pop it yet |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/6ddxFT/gigabyte-ga-ab350m-ds3h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ga-ab350m-ds3h
TheFifthAce#4128: ds3h is also tolerable
wiryfuture🦀#1706: this one is at a similar price point as that one https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zzkgXL/gigabyte-b450m-s2h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-s2h
TheFifthAce#4128: s2h is fine as well, either one works
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm assuming that 8 pin power is preferable over 4 pin power?
TheFifthAce#4128: you arent gonna be pulling anywhere near that much power
wiryfuture🦀#1706: alright
wiryfuture🦀#1706: lol it'll look neater though with this 4+4 cable :haha:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: so that build but with a s2h is okay
wiryfuture🦀#1706: alrighty
TheFifthAce#4128: single channel is cringe
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yes but I can't afford to get another dimm at the moment
TheFifthAce#4128: h
TheFifthAce#4128: vibe
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but the £2 extra for rgb is necessary |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: :RginHd:
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: whats a similar card to the rx480?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/6783395/Asus-Prime-PRIME-A320M-K-Desktop/?cm_mmc=SAG-_-Google-_-Computer_Cards_Components-_-6783395&utm_source=google&utm_medium=sag
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: also is this a good mobo?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: @TheFifthAce
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: sorry for @ing you
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: but is this a good mobo?
TheFifthAce#4128: @Dstroyer101ftw look
TheFifthAce#4128: what is your budget for the tower
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: im just looking at mobo and gpu atm
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: AMD
TheFifthAce#4128: so you already have cpu?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: which one
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: let me find the name |
TheFifthAce#4128: and prime a320 is the worst mobo you can buy
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: memory bad
TheFifthAce#4128: worst am4
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Ryzen 3 1200
TheFifthAce#4128: why
TheFifthAce#4128: did you buy it after they said to or did you already have it
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: after they said to
TheFifthAce#4128: why
TheFifthAce#4128: theyre dum
BigPierogi#3368: who said what
TheFifthAce#4128: r3 1200 is not a good purchase
TheFifthAce#4128: especially not a new one
TheFifthAce#4128: I find r5 1600s for $50 used
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: im just looking for AMD mobo around 50-60 and a gpu around the same price
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: up to 70 dollars max |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 70$ each
TheFifthAce#4128: :weirdpepega:
TheFifthAce#4128: you should cancel that order
TheFifthAce#4128: and try for a better system
TheFifthAce#4128: Like I said before
TheFifthAce#4128: Like if you stretch your budget a tiny bit more you can find stuff like this already built. And that's already built. If you are going just by looking for parts you can find better deals https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-T5810-Gaming-PC-Desktop-E5-1620V3-16GB-DDR4-240GB-SSD-RX-480-Win10/324163993476?hash=item4b79adff84%3Ag%3AvkoAAOSw0YxerCg4&LH_BIN=1 @Goober (US - EST)
BigPierogi#3368: @TheFifthAce did midnight say something cringe to buy
BigPierogi#3368: beucase im seeing ryzen 1200 stuff from earlier messages
TheFifthAce#4128: r3 1200 is cringe
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I cannot stretch my budget
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
TheFifthAce#4128: then
TheFifthAce#4128: cancel the 1200
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm assuming you paid $55ish for it
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 80 |
TheFifthAce#4128: w ha t
BigPierogi#3368: bruh
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: AAAWAVE doesnt accept emails until 2PM PST
TheFifthAce#4128: fucking return that shit
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: before*
BigPierogi#3368: wth is aaawave
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: it is the weekend so
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: not sure if ill be able to return it
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so what mobo can I get
TheFifthAce#4128: you shouldnt
TheFifthAce#4128: $80 for a 1200 is a scam
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I shouldnt get a motherboard?
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: you should return the cpu
TheFifthAce#4128: and then reevaluate |
TheFifthAce#4128: there is no reason to buy a motherboard for a cpu you got scammed on
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I sent the support request
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: what mobo and cpu should I get in the meantime
TheFifthAce#4128: what is your budget
TheFifthAce#4128: for the entire tower
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 450 to 500
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I have everything purchased except for the mobo
TheFifthAce#4128: so then how is the tower I posted out of budget?
TheFifthAce#4128: WHY
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and im going to return the CPU
BigPierogi#3368: wait so
TheFifthAce#4128: did you actually buy that dell psu
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: tower + peripherals
TheFifthAce#4128: :cromge:
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: no |
BigPierogi#3368: you have 500 dollar budget
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i didnt get the dell
BigPierogi#3368: and you buy ryzen 1200
TheFifthAce#4128: why the fuck isnt midnight banned from this channel
BigPierogi#3368: @Dstroyer101ftw list out what you bought
TheFifthAce#4128: @Dstroyer101ftw what is your list so far
TheFifthAce#4128: because if midnight gave it to you chances are you should return most of it
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Radeon 5970, 8gb of ram 2x4, 128 SSD, thermaltake litepower 650w psu
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: and that processor
TheFifthAce#4128: 5970
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: are you fucking kidding me
TheFifthAce#4128: did midnight tell you to
TheFifthAce#4128: @Dstroyer101ftw
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I just cancelled the 5970 |
TheFifthAce#4128: thats a decade old graphics card that hasnt had drivers in 5 years
BigPierogi#3368: How much did it cost
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 60
TheFifthAce#4128: @Dstroyer101ftw did midnight tell you to get it
BigPierogi#3368: bruh
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: no
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I honestly dont know what compelled me to purchase such a card
TheFifthAce#4128: thermaltake power supply is shit
BigPierogi#3368: What ssd btw
TheFifthAce#4128: 2x4 ram is not enoughf or modern stuff imo
TheFifthAce#4128: I can get you a higher capacity ssd for cheaper
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: samsung pm871b for 25 dollars
TheFifthAce#4128: lol fuck that
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: okay what can I get to replace these things |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: the ram was already shipped
TheFifthAce#4128: I'll sell you a 256 brand new sk hynix gold SSD for $25
TheFifthAce#4128: or a used 512gb for 25
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: just tell me what mobo, gpu, and cpu to get
TheFifthAce#4128: did psu already ship
TheFifthAce#4128: because thermaltake low end is trash
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: no
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: also ram
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: like
TheFifthAce#4128: 8gb is technically fine
TheFifthAce#4128: but you'll run out in most instances
TheFifthAce#4128: how much was psu
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: it cant be returned
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: 80
BigPierogi#3368: What |
BigPierogi#3368: Why cant it be returned
TheFifthAce#4128: fucking CHRIST
TheFifthAce#4128: $80 is beyond overpriced for that garbage
TheFifthAce#4128: did midnight tell you that psu too
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: he told me to get the same brand one at 500 watt
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: it was out of order
TheFifthAce#4128: fucking hell
TheFifthAce#4128: @incendery_lemon can midnight be banned from tech help channel
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: its 12 am
BigPierogi#3368: Maybe ping the meg
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: so I cant really get returns on this kind of thing
TheFifthAce#4128: why not
TheFifthAce#4128: whod you order off of
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: altex
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: because its 12 am |
TheFifthAce#4128: the fuck is altex
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: altex.com
TheFifthAce#4128: why
TheFifthAce#4128: why buy off them
TheFifthAce#4128: altex isnt on pcpp so you had to search them up
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: it was on google
TheFifthAce#4128: :CoconaSweat:
TheFifthAce#4128: they dont even have good prices
TheFifthAce#4128: there was no reason to buy from a weird off site
TheFifthAce#4128: god I dont even know how to fix your build at this point
TheFifthAce#4128: power supply is trash and I'd be surprised if it could power anything decent without tripping otp
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: requested to cancel the ram
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: but the guy said it was shipped right after I placed the order
TheFifthAce#4128: :CoconaSweat:
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: sent an email to altex requesting to cancel |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: real shame
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I dont think im going to try again
TheFifthAce#4128: I can buy this and ship it to you https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/723747036079325224/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: he said 65
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Listen
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I just don't want to try it anymore
mi3night#2562: @BigPierogi someone earlier told him to get i5 2400 for same price
mi3night#2562: i will literally eat ur ram sticks
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: The i5 was sold
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I'm sorry if I caused trouble, It's mostly my fault
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I'm working on getting everything refunded
TheFifthAce#4128: no its midnight being dumb
Racey#8574: midnight bad
Racey#8574: his stuff breaks a week after he gets it :Hahahahaha:
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Not getting windows 10 refunded though |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: That was dummy cheap
Racey#8574: Windows 10 is easy to activate
Racey#8574: pirate Windows 7 and upgrade to 10
TheFifthAce#4128: lets not talk about pirating here xoxo
mi3night#2562: bruh moment
mi3night#2562: i mean
mi3night#2562: $400 budget and a r5 1600af is literally $105 @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: which is why he shouldnt be buying new
mi3night#2562: i mean ebay is overpriced atm
TheFifthAce#4128: no
mi3night#2562: @TheFifthAce i mean i literally made him a pc part list for like $450 sooooo
TheFifthAce#4128: you made him a shit list
mi3night#2562: what
mi3night#2562: @TheFifthAce which list are u talking about
TheFifthAce#4128: Idont know |
TheFifthAce#4128: but its bad
mi3night#2562: i mean
mi3night#2562: ok
mi3night#2562: so u just assumed....
TheFifthAce#4128: you told him 1200 and thermaltake white
TheFifthAce#4128: so yes
mi3night#2562: thermal take white?
mi3night#2562: he put that
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Yeah I out that
mi3night#2562: i said r3 1200 because r5 1600af is $50 more
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: One of y'all said to get the thermaltake brand
mi3night#2562: it was JP
mi3night#2562: i think
mi3night#2562: and united states airforce
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Yeah just scrolled up to him |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: To be fair it was 80+
mi3night#2562: yeah but it's still meh
mi3night#2562: 80+ is not everything u know
TheFifthAce#4128: angry
TheFifthAce#4128: 80+ means nothing
mi3night#2562: just follow one of my list up there with a r5 1600af
mi3night#2562: and find ur own psu lol
mi3night#2562: psu are overpriced atm
mi3night#2562: @TheFifthAce find him a psu for like $50
mi3night#2562: im thinking delta
mi3night#2562: buttttt jet engine
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I'm already getting a relative to build me one
mi3night#2562: niceeee
TheFifthAce#4128: $50 is easy
SuSSudio#2688: aw crap |
mi3night#2562: then find him one
SuSSudio#2688: he bought r3 1200 for $80.
mi3night#2562: what
mi3night#2562: how
SuSSudio#2688: jesus flippin christ
mi3night#2562: tbh
SuSSudio#2688: that's r5 1600 money
mi3night#2562: dio
mi3night#2562: whats the hardest thing about building pcs in ur opinion @SuSSudio
SuSSudio#2688: Selecting the right parts
Alcyone#2233: cable management takes me the longest
SuSSudio#2688: ^
too
Alcyone#2233: easily spend 2x the time it takes to assemble it
mi3night#2562: in my opinion it's when something is doa and trying to fix and figure out what is doa or broken |
mi3night#2562: it takes like 10x the time as assembly
Alcyone#2233: thats where the post code display or the mobo buzzer comes in handy
mi3night#2562: ik
Alcyone#2233: some boards have the little leds, those are okayish
Alcyone#2233: this is also why you should keep some shit parts around if you flip a lot of pc
mi3night#2562: yep
mi3night#2562: sigh
Alcyone#2233: I have a 4gb dimm of some ddr4 2400, a psu, a hdd with 10 on it, and some other junk
The United States Air Force#7904: ya thermaltake has 80 plus white
The United States Air Force#7904: tbh thermaltake is ok
The United States Air Force#7904: I mean all the psus I have from thermaltake are pretty reliable
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I've used a Thermaltake 80+ 700W with a RX 480 and a i7 7700K and it has held up well thus far. It's been in that system for 2 years now and hasn't showed any issues.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: That Dell is a nice find. The SSD may be finicky with it's broken pin.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I love the sea of PCs on ebay branded as "gaming PCs" with like, i3 2100s and a GT 710
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I feel like I'm about to get an aneurysm from this |
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