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awareness become very thick and almost like a liquid
lay3
layer one might be in a more of a foreground on top of that but its within the container essentially of layer three in that circumstance
lay1
everything is presented as this or simply existence
lay4
how to sort of break the gravity of layer three to have it be less of a to go beyond it being a sense you know for many people
lay3
3
loc3
im getting pulled down to layer one
lay1
between location one
loc1
love arising for your wife
loc3
so i just remember that was the last big trigger that i had and it was something i didnt care about
loc4
positive sense
loc2
happy to be aliveness kind of a that
loc2lay3
and location two that are in the direction of location three
loc2
emptiness seems to come further down the line and so if spaciousness is there a little bit more present in the experience and you can remember instances where you shifted into and would have said
lay2
because i feel like i should probably you know because i noticed the the other day when i was like oh i should this is not going to work i need to come out of this location for thing it was to location to layer three that i popped down to
loc2lay3
geometric shapes
nfw
that fear communicates to your system about fluidity in general right its like oh fluidity can be bad
loc1
after deepening in location 4 many finders experience a largely or completely silent mind
loc4lay1
sense of that impersonal emotion remaining
loc5+
you are really on track in terms of deepening into fundamental wellbeing
tfwc
its also an indication of something that has a very powerful impact or sway in your system you know your invocation three which is very deep and fundamental wellbeing
tfw
if youre convinced someone has at least experienced location four and theyve been there maybe for a while or they talk about other shifts or other deepenings and it doesnt just seem to be the initial deepening that can often occur in location four between with someone coming in at location four
loc4
i almost never get triggered and if i do i have to look at it because its so unusual
loc4
so my like i guess the limitlessness of it like they extends far out into the cosmos and includes the stars and all the other planets and theres i feel connected with that too
loc2lay3
an all pervading field of presence or beingness that feels profoundly rich complete full alive
loc3lay3
in location 1 layer 4 the setting sun doesnt signify an end but a gentle closure a pause for reflection and gratitude
loc1lay4
one of them is the love aspect of and any other aspects of layer
loc3
sometimes its so funny to see how no concept makes any sense anymore it brings the laughter sometimes i dont think there is this love there and theres really simplicity directness and peace kind of thing
loc2lay3
okay so its at least location six um then you you describe things like feeling like its just the universe or existence thats looking out of out of the eyes or experiencing itself so thats you know something that people can say at location seven um but its definitely a very accurate description of location eight can be nine
loc5+
very divine
loc3
persistent mystical experience
tfwc
no time no space no sense of self
lay4
my primary identity is that layer one often its not it can be if theyre in location one layer one you know and certainly people that just come out of 45 days there will be plenty of people who are in places like that
lay1
a center in the spaciousness
lay2
sense of union with the divine and absence of personal emotion
loc3
changing more into space itself
lay2
personal love i can experience for brief periods infatuation i can see a shiny object and and you know get gooey about it but that never lasts for more than you know maybe a few hours um and even then im like you know kind of vigilant for it and like as soon as that arises like whats that like you know thats bullshit
loc3
very profound neutrality
loc4
deeper stillness
lay3
i was very spacious
lay2
weve heard bliss weve heard pure bliss weve heard pure joy
loc1lay2
tibetan meditation
nfw
but from a location two perspective and especially a layer three perspective things like that make make perfect sense when youre glimpsing in to layer four
loc2lay3
trust in how things are arises and the boundary or maybe even sometimes a little over into that experience becomes less salient
loc1lay4
the spaciousness of it sounds spacious or feels spacious yeah it just feels stupid i guess we need to like wire me up to some kind of in some neuroscience lab and see if i have if im showing the right activity and inactivity in the right brain regions that would actually be interesting corroborating evidence i dont know how i would match up and maybe this is all totally diluted and ive never been in fundamental wellbeing and have you know this ambition thats expressing through my fabricated experience anyway
lay2
im more on the layer three since the feeling is really really sunny right now
lay3
no youre in fundamental wellbeing you can have a looker you just got to have that sense that everythings okay in the background
tfw
alien quality
loc4
total range of emotion
loc1
everyone enjoys the being alive
loc3lay3
its a shallow sort of layer two
lay2
be layer three
lay3
about feeling fundamental well being
tfwc
theres very little layer two in it have you ever had an experience that was solely layer two you know like really just emptiness without a sense of fullness
lay2
nfw
nfw
that i can that i can relate to in my own experience that i mean just everything everything having that that underlying quality of reality that even i mean i sometimes joke you know even even thoughts are real neuronal firings in your brain you know they have reality but that reality is something more fundamental
tfw
location 4 individuals often use the word freedom to refer to their dominant ongoing experience
loc4
like this its that centerless field its still all pervading all present
loc2
layer three can be a passive background to the activity of layer one
lay3
if theyre coming out of layer three location three you know then so theres always this mix i think youre in a situation where even fairly recently this is you know deepening and developing more in the direction from sort of the top part of location to over into increasingly rooting itself in layer four and for you
loc3lay3
distant from layer one in terms of where your perception is centered
loc2lay1
for a faith such as christianity feelings of divinity increase until they reach a crescendo in the furthest reaches of location 3
loc3
shifting into layer two
loc2lay2
four no self
loc4
youre definitely in the right spot so well go on to layer two next on the 29th
lay2
of location two but theres still some sense of separateness there and then the third one that you experienced is classic you know nondual type of perception
loc2
no sense of the divine or no panpsychist sense or anything like that is that i can
loc4
like even when there are like some thoughts and things happening around me and its like my awareness my attention is more on the silence
lay2
and then seeing dishes at the sink or whatever so theres not a decision making there i just walk over to the sink and start doing dishes or whatever and when i was finished with work and came over and started engaging and everything coming out of the mouth sounded like oracle of delphi kind of stuff
loc4
sometimes theres a sensation where theres like no head or like the visual perception field is significantly wider
lay3
sense of self shift all the way into layer one
lay1
you know if its a spacious emptiness that would be layer two
lay2
fundamental wellbeing
tfw
what theyre really saying is well that individualized sense of self has gone away im deeper in location two and yeah sure i experience emotion but i quote unquote dont experience emotion
loc2
um i feel like layer three is really natural for me um theres lots of love lots of all those things um aliveness and but yeah
lay3
deeper fundamental sense of okayness or contentment
tfwc
its this sense of aliveness its kind of weird to say but theres just like a towel hanging in front of it on the chair like in front of me and it seems like it is becoming alive in a way im sure you heard a lot of things but its kind of like this towel is alive like in a real sense like smiling at me i dont want to sound too crazy but there is like a communication going on and not with words and not like something here and something there but just this sense of everything becoming more present a strong sense of presence
loc2lay3
happiness definitely a positive bias its a field its a pervasive field its interpenetrating everything so its kind of within everything um and its trying to kind of trying to break out from inside of everything and yeah it has this overall definite theres definitely an above zero positive bias to everything i cant access it right now but sometimes when ive sunk into it ive been able to access a deeper layer of stillness which would call like an absolute stillness and its rock solid stillness its its totally unmovable and thats not normally there but ive been able to access it a few times and that seems very deep when you sink into it its its seems bottomless
loc3
mystical states
loc5+
i go to a space where theres just nothing you know nothing is there
lay2
awareness field like presence stillness the vibrancy so theres just the fullness of course so
lay3
multidimensional type of experience of the of the matrix the layers and locations and make it possible to view from or through the perspective of something like location 2
loc2
it felt like it was everything and nothing at the same time
tfw
very fluid and integrated across layers 1
lay1
sort of got confounded with the descriptions of aliveness and so on and layer three but you might
lay3
they can feel as though the divine or some beneficial type of blessing is radiating out from them
loc3lay3
maybe a sense of stillness or beingness if that makes sense
lay3
so youre i would say youre in location two layer two
loc2lay2
you know have a center so to speak of increasing layers of dense feeling in the spaciousness
lay2
but if youre rooted more in layer one
lay1
joyfulness
loc3
basically all were doing is were fishing down the location three attribute list
loc3
location 4 reported a near total immersion
loc4
it might be a good idea to give that person a little location three love
loc3
you say the sense of presence that is calm vibrant and alive can be like a loud silence theres a sense of electricity in the air for some reason its much easier to notice in a natural setting outdoors outdoors with your eyes open it seems to hang in the air with my eyes closed its very hard to describe theres a scintillating energy that is in my body but not defined by the edges of my body no boundary has a sense of aliveness it feels like an energy field its like a constant hum like the hum you hear an electrical station its a metaphor of course it doesnt literally hum when i focus on it i start to notice a feeling tone it has a joy and a positivity a contentment warmth glow
lay3
it is usually accessed and viewed from the perspective of being centered in a deeper layer
loc3lay1
or an all pervasive consciousness
loc3
when it is only touched upon temporarily it does not necessarily feel as though it is not a state because the sense of individual self remains partially intact in earlier locations
loc4lay4
dominant emotion that felt like a mixture of
loc3
it freaked it literally freaked her out and so we had this conversation about this type of thing and so shes shes a christian for sure but not a location three christian you know shes a high sort of location you know layer three type of christian
lay3
my daily life is an inconvenience to fundamental well being
tfwc