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{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 7th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Mr. Kester Langford, Tuesday, September 2, 1997 at 1:00 pm.\nGood afternoon, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good afternoon, Kester."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm glad that you were able to fit me into your schedule--I thought about coming to see you every day last week. But I was still just so lethargic that, by the time I remembered, I'd already missed my appointment."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why were you so lethargic?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know really. Well, that's not exactly true. First, I started having difficulty swallowing, but after a few days that went away. Then I started having terrible headaches. Thank god for over-the-counter drugs. The headaches were so bad that when I coughed, I thought my head would explode. It was difficult dealing with being sick and having to work. I tried to get that other guy--the one that works when I don't--to take over for me, but he could only help me out for two days. That was a help, but I really wanted a week to get myself back together. I stayed in bed as much as I could. But then the alarm went off last Friday night, and I had to call Jake. Now that I think about it, I had every reason to feel lethargic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you seen a doctor?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Everyone is asking me that; it's really getting irritating."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So, did you see or talk to a doctor?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Wow. I would have bet you were going to ask me what was so irritating about being asked if I saw a doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I haven't seen a doctor. I think that we're all programmed to think that the Almighty Doctor is the first thing to do. I don't know about you, Doc, but most of the sicknesses that I've had throughout my life have lasted about the same amount of time regardless of whether I saw a doctor or not."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem to be in good health today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm feeling a lot better today, thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is there something more you'd like to say about being irritated or your attitude towards doctors?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I think that alternative medicine has an important place in our lives, but I feel a lot of pressure to believe otherwise."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Your health is a very personal matter."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn right! I got a postcard from Evelyn. It was nice, but it felt cold and removed. I've spent a lot of time thinking about her. I've really got to get back to my mark making."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you want to tell me what you've been thinking?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess. But there are some more pressing matters."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Pressing matters?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I received a very disturbing letter from my estranged brother, Chester. He told me that he was sorry for all the pain and suffering that he had caused me, and he asked for my forgiveness. He went on and on about all the different situations in which he caused me pain or humiliation. He pleaded for my forgiveness but not for my understanding. At the end of the letter, he even apologized for the letter and how uncomfortable it would make me feel. He told me that he had received Jesus into his heart and life. And now that he'd been saved, his mission in life is to help his friends, family, and strangers see the light of Jesus Christ. He told me that he prays several times a day and that I'm always in his prayers. He said that he knows in his heart that I too will accept Jesus Christ as God and Savior."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. How did that make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It made me feel terrible. I felt so weird after receiving the letter that I called up my friend, Oshiro. We talked about the \"born again\" trip that so many people are on these days. We agreed that the whole feeling of the letter was really one of great desperation. The letter that I sent back to my brother was short and to the point. I told him that I was glad that he found God, but that I was not ready to accept Jesus Christ as the only son of God and the only way to my salvation. I started to write a lengthy essay about cross cultural beliefs and how peoples throughout history had their beliefs about creation and the purpose of life, but I decided not to send it. I decided that it wasn't important for me to try to change my brother's mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about the letter made you feel terrible?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe it felt like another form of brotherly abuse? In essence, Chester was telling me that he had been lost and his life had been a waste. But now that he had found \"The Truth,\" everything was perfect and his life was meaningful and beautiful. In no uncertain terms, he explained how empty and meaningless he felt my life had been and still is. But now he had found the answer for himself and for me. I resent the implication that only people who worship Christ--or any other person, place, or thing--can have meaningful lives."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But what do you find abusive about your brother trying to share his new awareness?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's not sharing, that's what! He's following in the same footsteps as missionaries, evangelists, and other \"true believers\" who try everything in the book to brainwash people into believing what they believe. They want my mind, my body, and my soul, and I'm not going for it. As long as I can explore myself and my world, I have a chance for a deeper understanding and appreciation of my life. The philosopher who sticks with an explanation in the face of personal experience to the contrary is no longer a philosopher--he's a dogmatist, a dictator, and a very dangerous individual."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel your brother is dangerous?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Definitely. How is he any different from the people throughout history who've killed and committed genocide in the name of God or some ideology? The missionaries throughout the world have told millions of people that their own cultural beliefs and life styles were wrong. We as human beings continue to perpetuate superstition and myth. People who are interested in power have used this divisiveness among people to gain and maintain control of the masses."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem to be very passionate about this issue."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've lived my life in my own way, but there has been a price. People usually find me interesting and intelligent, but it is rare for me to find someone that I feel really understands or appreciates me the way I'd like to be appreciated. I'm not a nine-to-fiver, and I'm no businessman. I'm a mark maker. I live between the cracks, and I don't believe that makes me a sinner. It just makes me different."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How would you like to be appreciated?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's the sixty-four thousand dollar question. I don't know if I have the strength today to really go into that, but it has to do with trying on my point of reference without prejudging me. It has to do with more than acceptance and appreciation. It sounds funny, but how do you appreciate a flower? I bet you've never heard anyone say that they want to be appreciated like a flower before, eh Doc?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not in those words."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was pretty upset last week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "About your brother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. But also about something that happened with Jake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He was different from when we first met. I guess there was a honeymoon phase, and now it's over. I told him how sick I was and he never once commented about it in any way. Nothing. No \"I hope you feel better,\" or anything. He just wanted to know if I were going to be able to do my job. I said yes. That was it. But he did say he liked one of my marks tacked to the inside of the door--he called it \"that calligraphic piece.\" That felt good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Were you upset about his lack of compassion?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You could put it that way. I want him to consider me not just as an employee, but as a friend. Maybe that's unrealistic, but it's what I would like. But just because I want it that way, of course, doesn't mean that it will happen that way. I know that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have other bosses that you've had became your friends?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes you are predictable, you know? Most of my bosses have been friendly, but only one or maybe two became actual friends."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doc, would it be all right if we end the session ten minutes early today? This was the only time I could get an appointment with the herbalist."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Herbalist?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's across town and I've got to be there in ten minutes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure, we could end right now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Can I make an appointment to see you in two weeks?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That will be fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you, Doc. Goodbye."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Kester."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 8th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Mr. Kester Langford, Tuesday, September 16, 1997 at 1:00 pm.\nIt's a really pleasant afternoon. Nice to see you, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "From the office window, it does appear like a rather nice day. It's nice to see you too, Kester."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You haven't been outside this afternoon yet?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, not yet."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know it's silly, but I remember when I was going to school, I never saw a teacher eating. I kind of got a flashback there all of a sudden--like you were a teacher or something, and it seemed really strange to picture you eating. That's really strange, isn't it, Doc?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Strange?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not actually. In one way it's strange because as an adult I've seen many adults eat and do a lot of other things. But it's also like thinking about my parents making love--it just doesn't compute. Now that I'm more than halfway through my life, I still wonder about older people and what their sex life is like, even though when I'm getting into it, it feels natural to me. I think it can be awkward having sex at any age depending on the circumstances. But I'm getting off on a real tangent."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been thinking about sex lately?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Great."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Two blocks down the street from the arts and crafts store was a shopping mall with an area around a fountain to sit. I took a few of my brushes, some pre-made Japanese ink in a small bottle, plus a film container of water, and about a dozen blanks. Then I spent about an hour or so making my marks. Across the courtyard, on the other side of the gurgling fountain, there was a young college student watching me in between her reading. I could see that she was engrossed in her book, but she also appeared to be interested in what I was doing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I smiled and nodded. She smiled back, but then immediately continued her reading. After a while, she put away her book and walked over to me. When she was directly in front of me, she just exploded with excitement. I'd never seen her before, but her outward enthusiasm seemed out of character for her. Although I don't really know that, that's what crossed my mind. Well, that's one of the things that crossed my mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened next?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She said how cool she thought the cards were and asked if they were for sale--she wanted to buy some. I asked her which marks she especially liked. She pointed to three, and I gave them to her. Her reaction was wonderful and gracious. She told me that her name was Meung Kim but that her friends called her Me. I told her that my name was Kester Langford, but that I used to like to go by Lang years ago. She liked Lang because it reminded her of a famous Korean artist whose work she's been studying. I packed up my stuff, and we went to the library together. When I took out James Joyce's \"A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man\" to renew, she started laughing and giggling and pulled out the same book from her purse--her constant companion for over two months. She's writing a paper on Joyce. That was it. We're not living together. But we've been making beautiful music together, and we haven't played a note."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you found a new friend. Would you like to talk some more about this relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I would like to talk about my brother Chester. I noticed that last week I was angry at Chester for trying to fix me with his new solution. But I think I would react the same way to any of Chester's attempts to convince me that he has the answer to his, mine, and the world's ills. It doesn't compute. It's all really in my mind. My own descriptions of myself are simply slices of reality. I'd rather stick with my questions than submit to answers from anyone. My life is my adventure, and it's filled with many emotional and intellectual changes and challenges. Grieving--which is why I really came here in the first place--was new to me and difficult to handle alone. It's not that I've been without caring friends, but it wasn't enough. When I'm upset or down, it seems as if everything that has ever upset me is coming over me all at once. My ability to go with the flow and live a very flexible life has helped. And having a love interest...it's enjoyable and somewhat of a distraction."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Distraction from what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mark making and planning how to create money from my marks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you come up with the word \"marks\" to describe what you do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've thought about telling you that before, but I've always got into something else and there was never enough time. It's difficult to talk about it, because I'm still suffering. It's a delightful conundrum. Although my work appears to be artistic and design oriented, my orientation is more of an explorer than an artist. My idea is that anyone can make marks. I am someone who enjoys making marks--designs, paintings, drawings. It's more of a way of life. It's more life than it is art. My work is an expression of one of my historical moments. The best way to title them would be to date and time stamp them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm still not quite clear as to what your suffering involves."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe it's about not feeling that everything is all right all the time. Sometimes, I feel that things aren't quite right. That scares the shit out of me. I can't help but laugh. It's part of my life. It's not something to fix. It's more like taking a chill pill."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Describe how you're feeling right now. Not what you're thinking about it, but your experience of it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When I'm comparing myself to some ideal or other, of course, I don't measure up. I feel like shit...no big deal. It's just a damn bad habit. I have many powerful distractions to keep me busy--my job, for example, which is getting better but I'm not sure how long I can do it. I am making these cards for that crafts store. I'm sleeping when everyone is awake, and everyone's awake when I'm sleeping. It's pretty strange."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Stay with your feelings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "At the moment, I feel that my chest is loosening up--it's kind of hard to explain. Like a tightness that has relaxed. That's pretty cool. I often use breathing to relax and focus while I'm painting. It's interesting how this also works by just paying attention--I didn't try to relax my chest. It was more like a surprise. There was a sparkly feeling, and then I felt it relax and told you about. The sparkly feeling has disappeared, and I just feel normal. Is this like hypnosis? Are you hypnotizing me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. Do you feel hypnotized?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, but the thought just popped into my head, so I shared it. When I was growing up, it wasn't until I was old enough to drive myself that I really started having friendships. Before, I only had my parents to share with, and that only went so far. It wasn't like having a brother or sister or even a best friend. Sharing is something I love to do. I'd rather give a painting to someone who will really appreciate it, than sell it to someone who is using it to match his decor. But don't get me wrong, I will sell current pieces at very reasonable prices, to anyone who wants to buy them. But the longer I have a particular piece, the more money I want for it. I don't think that's out of line. I remember mentioning a mark that I valued at $35,000."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've had it a long time?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. That mark is on a hand-made canvas--a five-sided box, four feet by five feet. I used a giant horsehair brush that I made. It was the third painting in a series of five. I call it, \"January 23rd, 1 A.M., 1985.\" Twelve years is a long time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I agree."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I received two more postcards from Evelyn. There's been a lot of red tape and she's been in a holding pattern--it's driving her crazy. She was very positive about our relationship. She said she was looking forward to returning in about six months and picking up where we left off. I feel a little strange now that I've met Me. That's going to be something to get used to. Me is at least twenty years younger than Evelyn. I'm not sure what to tell either of them. I talked about Evelyn with Me, but I just said that she was a very good friend. I don't think I had to spell it out to Me, but for Evelyn...that's another story. I don't want to screw up our friendship, but she was out of the picture for so long...and then those intense couple of days...and now away for six months or more. I don't know. I really do better with a healthy combination of intimacy. Who doesn't, right, Doc? But it's either feast or famine with me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like a feast now. But our time is up, Kester."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I want to talk about Chester again next time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That would be fine. In two weeks then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, thank you. This time is good for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Great. Goodbye, Kester."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Goodbye, Doc."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 9th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Mr.Kester Langford, Tuesday, September 30, 1997 at 1 pm.\nGood afternoon, Kester."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good afternoon, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you doing today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The fact that I'm late and out of breath is an indication."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I waited until the very last minute, because I really didn't feel like coming today. The last two weeks have been filled with feeling like shit and going to doctors. Between blood tests and being poked and explored in every crevice and fold, I've had it with the medical profession. Nothing personal, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Nothing personal taken, Kester. What have the doctors found out from all the tests that you've taken?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's so bizarre. I was--and still am--having stomach aches with accompanying intermittent diarrhea and constipation, and so I went to the clinic. My regular doctor was on vacation, so I saw the attending physician. He had me take some blood tests and, believe it or not, an ultrasound. Fortunately for me, the ultrasound technician had studying to do so she couldn't spend much time with me. But she did manage to ask me when I was expecting. I laughed, but I didn't really think it was funny. When the blood tests came back, the doctor said that my tests were in the abnormal range and referred me to a gastroenterologist. I went to that doctor, and he told me that I had a tumor in my liver. Of course, that had nothing to do with my stomach and intestinal problems. The doctor said that he wasn't worried, but the tumor is the size of a golf ball! It's not his tumor, no wonder he's not concerned. Then came the big \"but\"--just to make sure, he wants me to have a blood pool scan. That's after my sigmoidoscopy. What a ride."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It seems like nothing definitive has been determined yet. How have you been taking all this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not well. I'm still suffering from stomach aches. The medication that the doctor prescribed hasn't worked. I've been feeling like the end is near."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The end of what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The end of my life. That's really been bumming me out. I've been drinking carrot juice and fresh orange juice which seem to be giving me some relief, but this thing with my liver...my best friend died of liver cancer several years ago, and I was with him during his entire ordeal. The whole process took three months from the time he was told to his falling into a coma and dying. To say that I'm freaked out would be an understatement."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been thinking about my life and what I've accomplished. I've been thinking that I may not have a chance to succeed in a way that I had hoped. As much as I enjoy being alone, I always envisioned that one day I would get married and have a family. I realize that that sounds strange coming from me, but a lot is surfacing now that I haven't thought about for a long time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What are you thinking about?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Although I haven't put much energy into selling my marks, in the back of my mind I've always thought that I would eventually be able to make a living do it. I've been realizing that in a way I've dropped the ball and that now it may really be too late. Something inside of me has wanted to resolve the issues with my brother, even though the letter I told you about seemed to create even a greater chasm between us. Last week, I told you that I wanted to discuss our relationship in greater detail, but the problem is that I don't really remember much about him. He would talk to me over the phone, and that was all right. But every time he would call, my parents would get into a screaming battle. It seems to me that their arguing was about how they had failed as parents. And when I would try to stop them from fighting, they would start yelling at me and I would end up being punished. I blamed my brother more than my parents. But for reasons that I don't understand, I would also blame myself. When one is faced with a possible terminal illness, I guess the mind just goes off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you remember what kind of a tumor your doctor said you have?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He said that it was a collection of blood vessels--a hemangioma."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This a very common type tumor and is usually benign. Most patients are never bothered by it and live long and full lives."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's what the doctor said, but it's still very unsettling."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Absolutely. I'm sure that it's the uncertainty that's the most troubling to you. Your response to the preliminary results sounds more like a reaction to the memory of your friend's illness and death and less like what's actually going on with you now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I tend to agree with you. But I'm here to tell you what's on my mind, not what I think I should be thinking and feeling. Isn't that right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, that's right."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I may be over-reacting to my physical symptoms, but between the pressure in my stomach and the new knowledge of a tumor in my liver I can't help it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When are you taking your blood pool scan?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometime in November."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why so long?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That was the earliest appointment I could get."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a long time to be in limbo. It may be worth trying to get an earlier appointment. Would you like me to try to help?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Definitely. I would appreciate any help that you could give me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll do what I can."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That will be great."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can't make any promises, but I'll do everything in my power to get you an earlier appointment."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Terrific."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you feeling right now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Somewhat hopeful, but It's difficult to talk with the pressure I feel in my abdomen. I was going to ask you if I could leave early. I really have to go to the bathroom. I'm most comfortable lying down and walking. Sitting up like this puts pressure on my stomach. Do you think the pressure in my stomach and abdomen are stress related?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's possible. In fact, it's not uncommon for stress to express itself that way."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I didn't mention that the doctor didn't think that my stomach and abdominal pressure and pain were indications of anything serious. For me that's such a joke because of the pain I feel."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Stress could be a factor, but before you get the results of your sigmoidoscopy, it's too early to say. Let's just call it a day for today, and I'll make some phone calls and see what I can do for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, Doc. I'll see you in a couple of weeks. Thanks a lot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome, Kester. Goodbye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 10th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Mr. Kester Langford, Tuesday, October 28, 1997 at 1:00 pm.\nGood afternoon, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good afternoon, Kester."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was really excited about coming here today. Quite a bit different from the way I've been feeling the last couple of times."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's going on?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Before I get into anything, I'd like to thank you for the help with my medical situation."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome. What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know and I don't really care what you said to those people over at the clinic, but whatever it was, it provided me with an appointment that didn't exist prior to your phone call."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. So what happened? What was the diagnosis?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I feel like I want to describe to you, blow by blow, each excruciating, irritating, and genuinely painful moment, but I'm just going to give you the highlights--my relationship with the medical profession is not worth my time and effort."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Just tell me what you really want to tell me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All my tests came out negative--I don't have cancer. But the road to finding out this life-changing information was certainly no picnic. I went to see my doctor--he was on vacation. So I saw his associate. I complained about having stomach cramps, so he sent me for an ultrasound and a series of blood tests. That struck me as odd, but I'm not a doctor. So I reluctantly agreed to have the tests."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Ultrasound is often used as a non-intrusive diagnostic imaging tool."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Although it may be non-intrusive, it involves a close relationship between the technician and the patient--in this case, me. After the technician finished smearing me with a lubricant and taking his readings, he just said, \"Use the sheet to wipe yourself off, it doesn't stain.\" That was it. That was the extent of his bedside manner."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you feel about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I felt alone. I felt like I was trying to fight for my life, to determine that I wasn't seriously ill, and that tech just saw me as a paycheck--a way of paying his rent. When you're sick and feeling physically and emotional weak, you're more sensitive to how people treat or mistreat you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When you're not feeling up to par, you are more vulnerable."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I sure am. Thanks to your intervention, I was able to find out that I didn't have cancer on the same day I took my blood pool scan. There I was, lying on my back on a board no more than eighteen inches wide, having to keep my arms stretched out back behind my head--extremely painful on my shoulders. I had to stay that way for forty-five minutes while a camera turned 360 degrees around my chest area. In addition to the pain, I had to listen to technicians talking in the room about their personal lives. It was scary and demeaning."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What was scary and demeaning?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was afraid that I would have to do the test over because of the times that I had to move a little bit to find a less painful position--trying to relax my arms and shoulders. I didn't feel cared about and nurtured. Human compassion was not present in that room. Maybe you think that I shouldn't expect some warmth and compassion from so-called healing professionals, but I still think it's really important."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You deserve to be treated with dignity. We all want compassion and warmth. But when we expect it, there is a chance of being disappointed when we don't get it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You'll get no argument from me, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's clear that you've been very worried about your health..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "To tell you the truth, I thought that I was taking it in my stride. But it had much more of an impact on me than I had realized. When they found the tumor in my liver, I really thought that was going to be it--three months and then the end. My experience two years ago with my best friend's liver cancer has been vividly in my mind--to distraction, I might say. I really don't think I'm very afraid of dying. It's more about not having a future to achieve a level of success that I've been working or, at the very least, planning towards for decades."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you want to talk a little about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really, but I'd like to tell you about my sigmoidoscopy. Anytime someone says that it's really no big deal to have a two foot flexible tube shoved up your ass, you can tell them they are fucking liars."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds very unpleasant to me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The doctor's presumed humorous comment, \"It never hurts me,\" was less than comforting. At the end of the ordeal with my ass still lubricated, the doctor said, \"Sit up, you can leave. Everything looked fine.\" I had lubricant all over my rear and down my leg. I had to go to the bathroom to clean myself up. I was really pissed at the lack of consideration. And to make matters worse, when I got out of the bathroom, the doctor and the nurse had disappeared into the other rooms with other patients--no sit down with the doctor and discuss his findings; no common manners or decency; just, \"You can leave, a report will be sent to your primary care physician.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That does seem to be a little cold."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "For me, that's an understatement. Many times, I take medicine and my condition gets better in a week or two. Sometimes, I don't take medicine and my condition gets better in a week or two. Sometimes, I take herbal teas and remedies and my condition gets better in a week or two. No wonder I would rather talk with a compassionate herbalist and natural healer when I think I need medicine. What's amazing is that the past couple of weeks were filled with some joys mixed in with all that pain and worry. My friend Me has been a true angel. She took me to my appointments and stayed with me, when they would let her, during my testing fiasco. She listened to me during my rants and raves about being treated like a number, and she loved me when I needed it and just held me when I needed that. She's very intuitive. I'm getting pretty attached to her, and she seems to feel the same. Who knows? Maybe this one is the one. That's so funny. After all these years, I'm still hoping to find a long-term relationship. It's wonderful to think about her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That is a very wide smile you're wearing."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. That reminds me, I got a letter from Evelyn. Life's so bizarre. She took five pages to finally tell me that she met someone, had fallen in love, and will be getting married. As I read the letter, I was reminded of the letter that I never wrote her about my relationship with Me. I was so concerned about hurting her feelings and losing her as a friend. And now, she wrote me the same type letter that I was going to write her. I sent her my congratulations and told her about Me and my medical problems. I also told her about something that's coming up at the gallery--it looks very promising."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Something new?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The gallery is having a group show of seven artists, and I've been asked to participate. Of course, I agreed. I'll know more soon. They want to test-market my marks before they give me a one man show. When I think about the whole idea of a \"one man show,\" it really reflects my solitary life. I don't want to be a one man show. I want my life to be filled with more than just myself. Fortunately, I'm getting what I want right now. And I'm not going to die any time soon."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel good about the way things are going now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Even with all the mental and emotional and physical pain I still have, my outlook is pretty good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm pleased to hear that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know where this is coming from, but sometimes, I think that you're judging me--I'm just a diagnostic category for you analyze. I don't want to insult you, because I also know that you've helped me a lot during the time we've been together, but this thought has crossed my mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't feel insulted by your feelings. It's my job to diagnose and come up with a treatment plan for my patients. And that's an ongoing process. But I see you as a human being and not as a diagnostic category."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I believe you. But I also have certain feelings sometimes and...uh..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad that you're sharing these feelings openly with me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks, Doc. I received a letter and then a phone call from my brother. This letter was much less preachy and more down to earth. Of course I have a healthy skepticism, but the tone seemed genuine. He said that he'd understand if I wouldn't want to speak with him when he called, but that he would give it a try anyway. When he called, we talked together for about thirty minutes, and it was surprisingly pleasant. I feel like this gigantic weight is starting to lift off my shoulders and off my life."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Can you describe this feeling?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Kind of. The word \"family\" would always give me a feeling of uneasiness. And my relationship with my brother--or my lack of a relationship--fueled my negative attitude. There must be very positive aspects to having a brother, and I've missed that in my life. In my younger years, I think the lack of a sibling at home was a factor during my promiscuous period. Fortunately for me, AIDS and HIV hadn't raised their ugly head yet. It was just gonorrhea then, and penicillin usually took care of that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Times have definitely changed our attitudes about sex and sexuality."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It has definitely changed my attitudes and my behavior."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you always use protection?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mostly abstention. But in the beginning of a new relationship, I get tested and have my future partner get tested. Until we get our results, we usually wait. But sometimes when we can't seem to wait, I use latex condoms, and I'm very conscious when I withdraw."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. That's about all the time we have today. Is there something that you'd like to add?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I feel a little uncomfortable about having made that \"just a diagnostic category\" comment, but I guess you actually commented on that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I appreciate you worrying about hurting my feelings. But I can handle it, and so can you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks for that. Maybe I was fishing for another compliment. But that can be a subject for another session, right, Doc?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Exactly. I'll see you in a couple of weeks."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That will be fine. Goodbye, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Kester."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 11th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Mr. Kester Langford, Tuesday, November 11, 1997 at 1:00 pm.\nGood afternoon, Kester."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good afternoon, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem a little quiet today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I really love your sense of humor. I haven't said anything yet. Were you getting uncomfortable with my silence?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like something I might say."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I think it is something you might say. That's why I said it. It is true, isn't it? Were you feeling a little uncomfortable just sitting here looking at me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I was attempting to move the session along with my observation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't think that you would have accepted that answer from me. I don't mean to turn the tables on you, Doc, but it just came out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's fine, Kester. I'm interested in hearing about how you've been feeling and what you've been doing."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When I'm doing my marks, I feel rather quiet and peaceful--at ease, actually. My medical situation continues to be disturbing. My cramps and my feelings of uneasiness in my stomach and abdominal area is a little better, no thanks to anything that the doctors have said or done. So far, they have found nothing to explain my problems. All I get are suggestions for more tests and lab work. \"Irritable Bowel Syndrome\" is the key phrase that these medicos have been bandying about with the explanation--get this--\"This is the diagnosis we use when the problem is not some serious condition that we can determine to be the cause of your pain and discomfort.\" I wrote it down so I could remember it. I heard the same statement from three separate physicians."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're obviously very angry about the way you've been treated. I've read research which has shown that many physicians change the manner in which they practice medicine after realizing how truly dehumanizing being a patient can feel."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you for that. You've been both empathetic and sympathetic during some very difficult times. I'm getting the feeling more and more that I am more than just a patient, but a person as well."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you feel that way, Kester. I hope it's evident that I try to see you as a total human being, uniquely individual and continually evolving and developing at your own rate."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes my rate is way too fast and jerky for me, but on the whole I'd say that, since I moved into the gallery apartment, my general outlook has stabilized. Of course Evelyn and Me, have helped in ways that are hard for me to explain."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Their influence as women or has it been something else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wouldn't want to underestimate the fact that they are women, but I think that who they are as people is at least as important. I feel accepted, loved, and appreciated by both of them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I sense that there's something else going on with you now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's extremely perceptive, but I don't think that I'm trying to hide anything. Not that you're saying that I am, but I came to this session with great hesitation and I haven't been talking about what's really on my mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Actually, it's not just one thing. My relationship with Me is proceeding well, but something has come up that has changed everything for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I told you that I have a group show coming up and that could mean a great deal for my career. The added twist is that my brother has sent me a round trip ticket to Paris plus money in a bank account in my name. He wants me to meet him and spend some undetermined time together in a Villa he rented outside the city. He contacted a dealer in Paris that agreed to represent me. Chester is making such an effort to make a connection with me that I don't want to miss out on something I've longed for and have missed my entire life."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you made a decision yet?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's exactly what I'm struggling with now. I'm finally to a point where my career may take off, but nothing is certain in that regard. My living situation, although not perfect, has been providing me with the opportunity to spend more time making marks, making love, and making my life more enjoyable. Except for this recent medical fiasco and my previous struggle with the death of the people that I love and who cared about me, everything has been moving along. Now, here comes the brother--the one that never gave me the time of day, or less--to my rescue."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that what you're feeling, that you're being rescued?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's really hard to know what I'm really thinking or feeling. My mind is spinning and my emotions are flip-flopping. On the one hand, how can I pass up a chance to go to Paris, hooking up with an art dealer with the possibility of shows and sales, as well as reconnect with my brother in ways that I've never even dreamed? On the other hand, how can I leave Me without any definite plans to return? How can I leave my job as a security person for the gallery? And I don't like the possibility of giving up my group show, either. What should I do?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're going to have to decide that for yourself but I do have a few questions that might help you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know, you want to know why I'm chuckling. I find it humorous that you're going to help me with questions. I am eager to find out what kind of questions you have in mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've talked about how this possible trip to Paris would require you to lose everything that you have now, but what about coming up with a plan that would allow you to maintain what you've got going and still go to Paris?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're right. I've been taking about the worse case scenario. What you're suggesting is that I come up with a different plan. I actually have been thinking about that. I could contact Chester and explain my concerns and suggest that he help me figure out a way to make this idea of his work for both of us. For example, Me's course work will be complete at the end of November and she has December off. I could trade in the first class ticket and buy two roundtrip tickets and see if I could convince Me to come with me. That's one thing. I could have a sit down with Jake and see if I could work out the group show by getting everything ready in advance, but that's something that I could probably arrange. The real problem is who is going to be the security person for the gallery, and if it's not going to be me, will that scrub my chances for the group show?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How would you feel if you could arrange everything the way that you described?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think that I would have mixed feelings. I'm actually more terrified of the thing with my brother blowing up than I am about losing my apartment or the group show. I think that Me would be very understanding and compassionate and would go along with whatever I decided. I could be wrong about that but I don't think so. Jake could go either way. He could either take it in his stride and work with me, or just give me notice and tell me to take a hike. I don't think that would happen but he's rather unpredictable. My problem is that although I can easily use the reality of my life as an excuse not to meet my brother, I believe that not meeting him would be a very big mistake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's your biggest fear about going to see your brother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe he's trying to brainwash me into becoming a born again Christian, instead of connecting with me without religious dogma. I want two open human beings to be meeting in Paris, not a Christian looking for a convert. As far as I'm concerned, I'm happy that he has found his salvation. But what is true salvation if it requires that others must be brought into the fold before they can be accepted as truly whole and complete human beings? Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill and that he just wants a brother as much as I do. There's only one way to find out and that's to go for it. How's that for using a question to my advantage?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got it. There's something that we've not talked about at all. I don't think that we've been avoiding it either, but I'm curious as to why you haven't asked how this possible separation will affect our relationship and my therapy?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The time seems good now to consider that question, don't you think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You have to be clever to be a shrink, eh, Doc? Yes, I think that it will be a challenge for me to give up my therapy now, but I also think that the benefits will far outweigh any problems I might have in dealing with things on my own. Anyway, we don't really know how long I will be gone or for that matter exactly when I will be leaving. If Me can arrange her schedule, and Chester is amenable to my bringing her along, and Jake and I can work things out, I won't be leaving before December."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I have confidence in your ability to deal with your situation if you decide to go to Paris."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I appreciate that, Doc. I think that I definitely have a better handle on my situation now that I've had a chance talk it out today. It's a lot to deal with all at once."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You do have a lot on your plate, but you're handling it very well."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. I agree."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This seems like an ideal place to end our session today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I agree but I do have one thing I want to mention before I leave today."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't stand my hours at the gallery. It's really grinding me down. This Parisian opportunity would be a perfect escape. I just thought I would mention it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you did, but our time has run out for today. We can discuss this next time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I agree. In two weeks, then?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That'll be fine. That's the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. Goodbye, Kester."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Goodbye, Doc."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 12th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Mr. Kester Langford, Tuesday, December 16, 1997 at 1:00 pm.\nGood afternoon, Kester."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good afternoon, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How have you been?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess you must be referring to my canceling one session and not showing up for another, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've been concerned..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess being really interested in your patients is part of your job. I appreciate it, really I do. That's why I'm sorry I had to flake out on you a couple of times. I actually thought that I had called and canceled that one time...between the holidays and all that's happening in my life, it's been hard to really focus on talking about what I'm going through because I'm so busy living it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What have you been doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been overwhelmed with all of the life changes that my friends are going through. It seems like all at once, they've now decided that I'm the best one with whom to share their innermost longings and financial dreams and aspirations. I really don't know where to start today. What should I talk about, Doc?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What seems to be the most important thing to you personally right now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's part of the problem--deciding what my priorities are and knowing how I should deal with my friends, family, and lovers. Before I get to the melodrama between my brother, Me, and me, I want to tell you about this idea that my friend Joe called me about. Joe called me out of the blue, and we talked about the environment. He had gone to a seminar called \"The Environment & You,\" and he was totally hyped on doing something in the Haight. He discovered that the local public schools are very inefficient at recycling. He wanted to know if I was interested in going into the recycling business with him. I explained to him that, although I agreed with the importance of living as ecologically as possible, it wasn't a high priority in my life. He was not happy with my response and went off on me. He told me to stop using acrylic paint--it was bad for the environment. That I should use only organic and recyclable inks and paints. About ten minutes after he hung up on me, he called back and in a very serious tone of voice told me to buy a truck and collect cans. And then he hung up again. I haven't heard from him in about a week, and I'm beginning to get worried. I called the halfway house where he lives, but the line's been busy. Joe's a Vietnam Vet, and his post traumatic stress syndrome flares up on him when he neglects to take his meds. How did I get off on this tangent?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What is important to you about your friend Joe and what he had to say?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Joe always makes me question my own values and take an immediate look at how I may be part of the problem instead of the solution. I have always held the view that if I'm doing something that is truly good for me, it would be good for others. That has been true to a point. But when he starts in on the inks and paints I use, I feel like I'm a hypocrite and that hurts a lot. I don't want to feel like a phony. Personal expression means everything to me, and the thought that my marks could have had a negative impact on the environment has an enormous impact on me. Fortunately, I've been able to solve that problem to my satisfaction just recently."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I contacted the small business administration and the chamber of commerce and discovered that there are quite a few businesses that are based on using only recyclable materials. I contacted a printing company in Oakland, and I now have a steady supply of recyclable inks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So are you proud of yourself for replacing your old materials with ones that have been recycled?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes the magic works. I'm feeling pretty good about what I've been able to do, but I can't wait to tell Joe about it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I believe that for me, the idea of ecology and recycling represents a way of life that I agree with and want to promote in my life as much as possible. One of the reasons I like my job is that it is linked to my living arrangements by its very location, and I believe that I benefit the environment by not having to get into a vehicle to get to work. I have to admit that I didn't think about that when I took the job, but nonetheless, it does fit. Doesn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It does fit."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got several phone calls from my friend Eric. He has been working as a telemarketer for a company that sells bonds. He's working on getting his Series 7 Stock Broker's license, but he didn't call me about that. He went to a seminar called \"Financial Clinic\" last weekend at the Fairmont, and he was buzzing about stocks and making money in the stock market. It was really intense. He had me so crazy that I was ready to give him all my money just to get rid of him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What made it so intense?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "First of all, he was so gung-ho that even asking the same question over and over gave him pleasure and an excuse to explain these stock market strategies he learned. The one strategy I remember him telling me was rather intriguing. It involved buying 1000 shares of a stock at around $10 a share, and then selling someone the right--but not the obligation--to buy the shares from you at $12.50 for a premium of $1,000. So you get to keep the $1,000 no matter what. You don't have to buy a thousand shares, but it's easier to think in round numbers. It sounded too good to be true. So I called up a stock broker, and he confirmed that it was a legal stock market strategy for generating cash flow. My friends are really something, aren't they, Doc?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Speaking about interesting friends, on the same day I received an outrageous letter from Evelyn, I had a very disturbing experience with Me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Evelyn, as you know, was getting married and told me how happy she was in her previous letter. But this next letter was full of anger and betrayal. She found out that the guy that she was going to marry was already married. She was so pissed that she got into a physical fight with him and knocked him through a plate glass window in the hotel where her wedding was supposed to take place the following day. They both ended up in jail for the night and are now arranging restitution. She said that she's lucky that she didn't lose her visitor's status and get booted out of the country. She's still working and doesn't expect to return to the States for at least two more years."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How does that make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think that I have mixed feelings. Even though I found Me, I was a little jealous about Evelyn getting married. And so I'm somewhat relieved. On the other hand, I'm very sad because she's a good friend. And I don't like the fact that she's hurting right now and there's nothing I can do about it. I wrote her a thoughtful, caring letter. That's not very much, but it's all I can do for her right now. I really do love her. And on top of everything, I asked Me about coming with me to Paris, and she told me that I was getting too serious and she needed some space. I was shocked, but for some reason it didn't take much for me to recover. It didn't really bother me that much. We really have something special together, and I think that this is just a temporary glitch in our relationship. She's a lot younger than I am. I thought she would jump at the chance of coming with me--she's always talking about wanting to travel. I really don't understand women. I don't think anyone does...not even women."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I really want to talk about my brother now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, whenever you're ready."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't think that I'm ever going to be ready to talk about Chester. That's just the way I feel. I called him collect--just like he asked me to--and he talked just as he used to talk to me, instead of his new enlightened way of communicating. When I started the conversation, I was ready to arrange to visit him...the only thing that's for sure these days is that things keep changing. He jumped back and forth in the conversation--friendly and open to our new emerging relationship and then gruff and critical of everything I told him I do. He finally said that he is going to have to push our rendezvous up a month or so--until after the holidays. I could barely speak into the phone, but I made the effort. I told him that when he was ready, he should call me. That was the end of the conversation."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm really feeling sad and hurt. And I'm as angry as hell. Everything seems to be falling apart. Even my group show has been postponed. Now, on top of the holiday blues--that are pandemic in their own right--I've got no one to share Christmas or New Year's Eve with me. Everything was going so well, and then the bottom fell out. Maybe I'll go to Green Gulch and spend the holidays in Zen Meditation with my friend who studies there regularly."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem to be doing well even with all the disappointments in your life right now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I appreciate the vote of confidence. With all that's been happening, I'm surprised that I'm handling everything so well. Maybe our therapy sessions are helping in ways that are hard to predict. Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're very welcome. But the truth is that you're the one doing all the work."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It does feel like that sometimes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Our time is up. Is there something you'd like to tell me before we end for today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I think I've said quite enough."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Let's see, in two weeks, it'll be the 30th of December. I'm only taking crisis patients between Christmas and the New Year. How about the week after, that's Tuesday the sixth. Will I see you in three weeks, Kester?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I'll make every effort to be here. See you then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Kester. And Merry Christmas."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 31st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, January 7, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine. Did you have a nice holiday?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis. Yeah, I had a good time--went to parties, exchanged gifts, ate too much. I saw Phil's friends do a couple of New Year's Eve fireworks over the Bay. And oh, wow! I just couldn't believe it! Phil's cooked for me before, and it always turned out like everything he does--unusual, but full of his own particular flavor. It's always good. Anyway, with the Crock Pot I gave him and the huge spice rack full of spices that Jake gave him to go with it, my brother Philip made the most amazing creamy lobster bisque. It was the hit of the party. There's not a drop left, except for this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "For me? Are you sure? Why, thank you, Katherine. I'll try it tonight."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't thank me, it's from Phil--it's his thanks for all you've done for me. He says I'm a new woman. And I agree."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So do I. Tell him it was my pleasure. And thank him for the soup."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I will. I left a message with your service inviting you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I got it, thank you. I had plans. Besides, I don't think it's a good idea to socialize with patients. I have to keep our relationship professional."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess so. So how was your holiday? Did you go to Time Square?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh my, no. I didn't go to New York this time. I had a good time right here in the city. But that reminds me. I'm going on vacation this month. I'll be gone the next two weeks. So I'm afraid I'll have to miss our next two sessions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Vacation? Jesus, what's with you? You just had two weeks off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Actually, I had to catch up on the end of the year HMO bureaucracy. You know how bad that can be, Katherine. Plus, I was still on call for patients in crisis."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, hell, you could have given me some warning."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I apologize. I'd have liked more notice myself, but this opportunity just came up. Katherine, why are you so upset about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's just...we'll miss two weeks. I came in all excited about getting back to work, all ready to really tackle the Daddy stuff again, and now we're going to miss another two weeks. Damn it, Balis. I just want to get on with it, and now you're taking off somewhere."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sorry. I understand your frustration; we have missed a lot of time recently. But we can tackle the Daddy stuff as intensely as you like as soon as I get back. In fact, you don't even have to wait for me..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, I think I'll just wait."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. You can still get in touch with me in an emergency. And there's a doctor covering for me on call."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. It's okay. I can certainly understand your need to take a vacation from all of us--you patients, I mean. Look, I'm sorry I yelled at you. But it's frustrating, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I know. Do you want to start talking about your father today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Let's wait. I don't want to have that big of a gap, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. How about that? I told you Malcolm sent her home without pay after our little confrontation?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, the next thing I heard about it, she was in a psychiatric facility. She's out now, but on disability. And she's already put in for maternity leave. So I guess we won't be seeing much of Ms. Rozzi for a while."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's quite a development."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Isn't it though. You know, I've made men cry. I've broken careers. I've repossessed businesses. But I've never actually driven anyone insane before."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I don't think you caused this..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, sure, it wasn't just me. But I can't help feeling at least a little responsible."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so? You defended yourself..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it was a little more than that. I came down on her with both feet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But it was her boss who suspended her. You gave him the facts; he made the decisions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, but I didn't have to go to him. I could have spoken right to her, tried to smooth things over before it got out of hand..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, stop for a moment. Do you actually want to take the blame for Larraine's problems?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well? What happened between you and Larraine was a symptom, not a cause. Whatever's going on in her head started long before you entered the picture and would have progressed even if you had never met. You just happened to get caught up in her instability."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Still, I did get her suspended..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. She was told to stop. And she was insubordinate."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, blatantly so. And you didn't push her to that. That was her own decision. Whatever compelled her to that behavior is her own issue. You weren't the cause, just a handy target."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So if I wasn't around, she'd have found someone else to go off on."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Or some other way to cause herself trouble, yes. But you didn't push her over the edge; you had no way of even knowing she was on the edge."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was just my bad luck to be nearby when it happened. Hmm. Okay, I can accept that. I'd rather not feel guilty for that nut case anyway. Although, I suppose I could be a bit more sympathetic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Perhaps. I'll bet Alex could use some."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess he could. Jeez, with a mom like that, no wonder he's disturbed. Oh, that sounded bad. What's the politically correct term for someone in therapy?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I believe it's \"deranged.\""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you, that's helpful."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So are you okay about Larraine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I guess she'd have managed to land in the hospital eventually with or without me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Most likely. What else is on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, we could talk about Jake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I love him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But we've become...well, kind of complacent."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does he smile?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, sure, he smiles. He'll even chuckle a little on occasion. And he has a sense of humor. But he never comes right out and laughs. It's kind of unnerving."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe he's just reserved."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doctor Balis, this is the guy who sings at the top of his lungs while riding a motorcycle. He hang glides, he rock climbs, he schmoozes with the glitararti. I don't think \"reserved\" is quite the word."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Still, sometimes that behavior can be compensatory, designed to give the impression of self-confidence, covering up insecurity."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That doesn't ring true at all. Jake's security is almost...arrogance. I've known him for six months now, I think I'd see if he was hiding anything. The truth is he's self-assured, confident, and outgoing. Jake has nothing to prove to anyone. That's part of why I'm with him, there's nothing fake there."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. So the problem I'm hearing is that there's no excitement in the relationship."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Right."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you love him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you enjoy his company?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Usually. Yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is there anything about him that makes you uncomfortable? Is he domineering, possessive, vulgar, prejudiced? Anything that you don't like?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he has his quirks. Everyone does. But there's nothing major like that, no."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So it's a good relationship that you're satisfied with, it just lacks excitement."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, yeah, I guess so."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, excitement takes doing. You have to create excitement. What do you like to do on a date?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I like plays and concerts, discussing museum exhibits."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But those are the things you just said you're bored with. What about exciting things?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I enjoyed riding the motorcycle. And the hang gliding was a lot of fun. And he said he'd take me kayaking when it got warm again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why don't you suggest some of those things?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's winter now. None of that's very good in the cold."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So use your imagination. Katherine, you have to put excitement in your life, it doesn't just appear. And you can't count on someone else to provide it. I'm sure if you suggested one of those things to Jake, he would be interested."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess he would."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you don't have to have him. If he doesn't want to do something you feel like doing, go alone. Or take some other friends."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're right. Why am I waiting around for Jake to provide the fun? I'm a grown woman; I can make these decisions."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But I guess that's not all I miss."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, well, it's the romance. It's the courting. He doesn't bring me flowers anymore; he doesn't compose sonnets. It's that sort of thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Ah, yes. Do you do those things for him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Gee, I hadn't thought of that. Huh, interesting. What am I? Some Southern Belle waiting to be swept off her feet? Needing a man to do everything for me? I can do those things, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure you can. A relationship is a two-way street. And so is communication. Maybe you should bring up these issues with Jake and let him know how you feel. It could be that he doesn't realize you still appreciate those things."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm, could be."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I'm afraid our time's up for today. Keep doing the work you've been doing outside the office, it's been very productive. And I'll see you on the 28th, okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Be ready to talk about Daddy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I will be. Good night."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good night."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 32nd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis. Did you enjoy your vacation?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I did, thank you. I had a wonderful time. How have you been?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too bad. I quit smoking."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you. What made you decide to do that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, you can't smoke in the bars any more. So there's no place left to smoke but at home. But now I have to watch it when I'm at the jazz place; without a cigarette, I tend to drink more. I figured I only had two a day anyway, and it made the place kind of stale. So I just stopped. Strange thing, though--the evening news just isn't as interesting without a cigarette. I find that I constantly want to be doing something, so I work around the house, not actually watching television, just listening. It's amazing how shallow the stories really are without the video to engage the mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, they only have a short time. And we are a very visual society. Do you get the paper?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I get Newsweek. But what I was getting at is that I've discovered All Things Considered. It's a radio news magazine show, very thoughtful, in-depth stuff. Runs on NPR from four to six. You should try it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've heard it, it's very good. Have you heard Morning Edition?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, that's how I found it. I have KALW programmed in the car and at home. They do interesting things late at night."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, I'm glad you've stopped smoking, and that you've made these discoveries. What else is on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, lots of things. That's part of what's exciting about the show, I find there's more on my mind. And I'm picking up more magazines and surfing the web. It's like I'm smarter now, more aware. I'm branching out. Life is about more than just work and my boyfriend. Oh, the neatest thing happened. Just as I was about to talk to Jake about putting the spice back in the relationship, he presented me with this sculpture. He's not much of an artist, but he says this is the best work he's ever done. It took him weeks. It's tulips. He sculpted this bouquet of ceramic tulips for me. And I said he never gave me flowers any more!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's very nice. And what have you done to put the spice back in the relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We went and played LazerStorm. You have to have a group, so we took Alex out for his birthday. It was me and Alex's friend Tony against Jake and Alex plus some other people we met there. What a blast! I found this little tower in the corner and hid in there, playing sniper. Of course, Jake's a natural, slinking around like a commando, picking off his hapless victims with impunity. I think he was Viet Cong in his last life."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like fun. But if it was Alex's present, then it wasn't really for you and Jake, was it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, not entirely. But it was something exciting that we did together. As for just us, we're going skiing for a week next month. I told you about that, didn't I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, just the two of you at a lodge for a week. That sounds wonderful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think it will be."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Anything else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought I was getting over my dad--you know, coming to grips with it, finding peace with it. But I think about him, and I find that I'm not there yet. It's still very sad."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, this is a big loss that you've just recently been starting to feel. It'll take some time before you can get used to it. As for being sad, you may always feel a little sad when you think about your dad. It was a sad thing that happened. But one day, you'll be able to look back on all that happened without being overwhelmed with sadness. And soon I'd hope you'll be able to balance the sadness with some of the joy that you feel remembering the time you had together."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I haven't seen this. Is that your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, that's him. I guess he's about the age I am now, maybe a little older."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fine looking man. He does look happy."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like he owns the world, doesn't he? You know...I kind of feel proud when I see him like this. I mean look at him. He's all jaunty and confident and happy. He's going after what he wants. I'm glad for him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's good that you can feel that way."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Yeah. It's still awful goddamn sad the way we split up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I want to talk about him. Now when people ask about my family, I tell them that the last time I saw my father was when I was eleven and I haven't heard from him since. Everybody goes, \"Oh, how sad.\" Crap. I don't want to be a sad case. I want to be proud of my daddy. I want to say my mother's a banker in South Carolina and my father's a bush pilot in Alaska."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So why don't you say that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's not true."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure it is. At least it was true the last time you knew."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So am I supposed to say, \"The last I knew, my father was a bush pilot in Alaska?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because then they'll want to know why I don't know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Tell them you lost touch."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "See, that's just it. I don't want to be out of touch with my father. It's like not having one at all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know that's not true. You have a very clear connection with your father. You have pleasant memories; you retain the influence he had on you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, yeah, I have all that. And I'm trying to be satisfied with it, I really am. But there's still this gap. I just don't know what happened to him, whether he found what he was after, and how he feels about me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't know how he felt about you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, okay. I know how he felt back then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And how was that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Haven't we done this already?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I know, but I think it would do you good to hear it again. Humor me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. He loved me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you know?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He didn't want to break us up. He wanted me to come to see him, maybe even move there. He kept calling and writing until my mother made him stop. And he told me he loved me every time we talked."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think that's changed?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You don't stop loving your kids, do you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not usually. How do you imagine he'd feel about what you've achieved?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He'd be proud. He was always proud of my accomplishments. Grades, awards, school plays."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So what about the rest of it? Did he find what he was after?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I guess the picture tells the story. And he kept telling me how good he felt about what he was doing. He always sounded excited when he talked about it. That's part of what got me so hot to go."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you're confident that he loves you and would be proud of you, and you're sure he found the dream he went looking for."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Yeah, I feel good about that. But I still don't know what happened after that. I suppose I could pretend he was dead. But that doesn't really close it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because I'd always know I was pretending. I work with numbers, Doctor Balis, I've never had much of an imagination. I examine the books, I analyze the plans. I need evidence."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I could get the detectives back on the case."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's an option."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm pretty sure I could find something to say to him if we did meet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And what if they can't find him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then I'm no worse off than I'm now, except a few grand lighter. The other possibility is that he's dead. And then at least I would know. I mean I'd have an end point."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds to me like you have an end point now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're comfortable with how he felt about you. You know where he went and what he found. Katherine, how do you feel about him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's my daddy. I love him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. But what about his leaving? Any resentment there?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, a little. Not much. You've got that expectant look. What are you getting at?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know he'd be proud of what you've accomplished. How do you feel about what he's done for himself?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I see. Well, I've said I'm happy for him. Looking back on it all, he was stagnating where he was. Hmm. I'd hate to see Philip stuck where he wasn't comfortable. And I'm happy that he's happy, whatever his living conditions are. So I guess I'd feel the same way about daddy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you. So you know he loved you. You know he'd be happy for you. And you know he found what he wanted, and you're pleased about that. Do you think it can be over now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I never really know what I'm feeling when I leave here. I get all mixed up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. Well, our time is up anyway. Think it over, let things settle down, and we'll talk more about this next week. Okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, okay. Remember to say happy birthday to Alex."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I will. Good night, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good night."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 33rd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How are you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Christage."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Excuse me?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Christage. The age of Christ."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's me. Monday was my thirty-third birthday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Happy Birthday. Are you feeling a little down about it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm sure it shows. I've been mopey and quiet since Sunday. Everyone's noticed, though you're the first I've told."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You know, Jake's never asked me my birthday. I don't think he really cares."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And you've never mentioned it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. It never seemed important, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has he noticed your mood?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I haven't seen him. I'm sure I'll snap out of it by the weekend. I'm already starting to get over it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. What is it about thirty-three that's got you down?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I keep thinking of this song. I heard it at Phil's, he plays a lot of folk--acoustic stuff. I don't remember the artist. It goes, \"If you don't die in glory at the age of Christ, your story is just growing old.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't like the sound of that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's a real pretty song. I didn't find it depressing when I heard it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So how does this apply to you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I don't feel the need to die in glory. But I've been thinking about what I have accomplished with my life so far."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And what have you came up with?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not much. Not much of value, anyway. I mean not much of value to society. I make oodles of money, more than I know how to spend. I've been investing more than half my earnings since I came to California, and I'm a decent investor. Add in my stock options and I'm easily a millionaire. I have a top position in a growing company, and I could even become a board member in a few years if I play it right. Retire at 50? Hell, I could retire at 40 and still be rich when I die."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But it's just money. I've worked my ass off my whole life, and all I have to show for it is stuff. I have a rider on my insurance to cover $20,000 worth of fine art. But the piece I value most is one of Phil's, he gave it to me just because he thought I'd like it. If I had to, I'd become a prostitute before I'd sell this piece. That's value. Do you give blood?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I have, in the past. I should do it more often."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You should make a habit of it, it's a great thing. I was talking to the phlebotomist last time I was in. He makes less than $10 an hour, but he loves it. He says he gets to help people feel good about themselves and, at the same time, saves the lives of people he never met. I need to do something like that. I've played the money game, and frankly, I've won. But it's not satisfying. That phlebotomist guy's satisfied; he's happy with himself. I want to do something that's good for society or at least for my community."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's stopping you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's a good question. Part of it is that I don't know what to do. I'm good at making money, I'm good at balancing the books. I don't want to let those talents go to waste. I love the arts--museums, galleries, symphony, theater. I dream of being involved with that. But that conflicts with the humanitarian work I want to do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fine arts are for the rich. You don't see a lot of ditch diggers at the symphony."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not so sure about that. Maybe you could work to make the arts more accessible to the common man."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How would that be humanitarian?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It would help reduce the stratification of our culture, bring us more together."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I'm sure there's a world of things out there that you could do that would use your talents and make you feel good about what you're doing. It might take a few tries to find one that satisfies you. You don't have to come up with it right away. Wouldn't you feel better just to be working towards your goal?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I suppose I would."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you in a big hurry to quit your job?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, not really. That's another thing. I'm pretty good at what I'm doing now. I'm kind of basking in the glory of achieving what I set out to do. I could stay here a while longer. Besides, it's kind of understood that by taking this position I've renewed my commitment to the company."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you have time to think about your next move."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess I do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about volunteer work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been thinking of that. I might even want to act. I'm thinking of trying out the next time the community theater holds auditions."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like fun."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hope so. Doctor Balis, is this just a mid-life crisis?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're a little young for that, but I suppose it could be. What makes you think so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know I'm young, but I have been hit kind of hard by this age of Christ thing. I'm a successful executive thinking of chucking it all...oh God. Yeah, that's what got this all started!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a little drastic."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, isn't it though? But it worked. They interviewed him in jail. He'll get out in another four years. He feels great. He's a convicted felon and is worth nothing, but he says now he gets to make himself into whatever he wants. He's free."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, he used a pretty radical strategy, but I guess I can understand what he's saying. Is that how you're feeling?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I don't think I'll be robbing a bank next Thursday. But I would like to remake myself, find my dream, and start following it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You feel a strong need to start following your dream?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Gee, that sounds familiar, doesn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it does."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn. I didn't see that until now. I guess that's something we have in common. Hmm. Maybe I understand him better than I thought."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe so."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Except daddy knew just what his dream was."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, that was lucky for him. But you have the time to figure that out for yourself. And the resources."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, resources I have and time, too, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So how do you feel about turning 33 now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Better. I'm not a failure, I guess. I did succeed at something. Now, it's time to take on something else, make a new life. Hey, I can die in glory at the age of Christ!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How's that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I guess it does."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I have a lot of thinking to do, but I feel better about this. Thanks, Doctor Balis. Talking to you always seems to clear things up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to hear that. See you next week, then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. Good, there's Alex. Boy, there's a kid who needs a friend. Listen, what else can I do for him? He has some really hard luck and I want to help, but I feel kind of powerless."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sometimes the best thing you can do for a friend is just to be available and to listen without judgment. You can't solve his problems, but you can be supportive. That can do a world of good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Thanks, I can do that. Well, see you next week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 34th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 4:00 pm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. Come in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis. Think we'll be getting some more rain?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I certainly hope not. Things have been too wet lately."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Did your power go out?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. Yours?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Just for a couple hours. I didn't even lose the fish in the freezer."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. What's on your mind today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A couple of things. Poor Alex. We talked for hours this weekend. He opened up a lot, really seemed to appreciate my company. What a roller coaster his life is! Makes me wonder what I'm whining about sometimes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, you can't compare your situation to anyone else's. Your issues are just as valid in your own psychic makeup...."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hey, I wasn't saying my issues aren't valid. Actually, I'm kind of encouraged that they're so easy to handle. And I know that they still need to be handled, easy or not."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay, good. Please, go on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Alex talked a lot, but I can tell that there was something else really eating at him, something he won't talk to me about. But I'm not pushing it. I get the feeling that wouldn't be productive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good call. He doesn't need pressure from his friends, he needs support. The two seldom go together. If he wants to tell you about it, he will. Meanwhile, it's good that he has you to confide in, without pressure or judgment. That's a healthy thing for anyone to have."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wish I could do more for him. You know, fix it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you're doing more for him than you know. He doesn't need you to fix it, just to be his friend."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess sometimes just talking can be helpful."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a big part of the process of therapy. Look what it did for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I didn't even know what my problems were until I came in here. Now at least I know why I'm miserable."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And now you can take steps to ameliorate that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "\"Ameliorate\"--that's a nice one. Hey, if I was a psychiatrist, then maybe sometimes I could fix it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sometimes. Is that something you think you'd like to do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, not medical school, no. But what about a Ph.D? How long would that take?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Generally, five years, once you've been accepted. It's not an easy program, though."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I don't know. Day after day, to have people trooping in and have them tell me their troubles, expecting me to have the answers. I don't think that's for me. I'm more a \"behind the scenes\" kind of person. But I did think of something, though. Or rather, Phil mentioned it. My sister-in-law is on some kind of board or committee that evaluates where United Way money goes. I think I'll look into that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds right up your alley."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, it does. And I have one or two other ideas I might look into. But I could do this United Way thing without leaving my job. Rachel only does it a few hours a week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you still thinking of leaving your job?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Ultimately, yes. I'm not in a big hurry, though. I was just really down last week because of my birthday. I'm pretty much over it now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to hear that. What else is on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm going to have a talk with Jake. One gift once in a while--even if it's handmade and very personal--just doesn't do it. We don't talk any more. He used to tell me his history, and his dreams, and his feelings. We used to have spirited discussions about politics and art. We used to thoroughly deconstruct every movie we saw. Now, it's all I can do to engage him in conversation. He's still charming, and romantic, and all that stuff. But it feels like he's just going through the motions, like an actor repeating a familiar role."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you still working to lend excitement to the relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "As much as I can. I try to think of neat new things to do together, and he does them and acts like he's enjoying it. He might really be. But it's not helping. Besides, fun isn't all there is to a relationship, you need the closeness, too. It's like I can't reach him anymore."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. When do you plan to have this conversation?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Soon, I think. Before Sunday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's special about Sunday?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Nothing, it's just an arbitrary deadline I set for myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you know how you're going to approach it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll say pretty much what I just told you, though I want to present it in a more positive light. I don't want to sound like I'm nagging him; I want to start a productive dialogue."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good luck."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay, we've discussed Alex and Jake. What about Katherine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We've discussed Katherine, too. Remember the United Way thing?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is there anything else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, not really. I'm feeling pretty good lately, other than my relationship, of course."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Why don't we talk about your father some more then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I guess that's still the big issue. Okay. Uh, I'm drawing a blank. Why don't you start?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, we were talking about closure. You said that since your father effectively disappeared, you didn't feel the relationship ever really ended. You wondered what happened to him and felt you didn't really know how he felt about you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh huh. And you reminded me that I did know how he felt...I do know how he felt. You reminded me why. And that's pretty much settled. I know he loved me, and he didn't intend to abandon me--it just sort of worked out that way. I wish he could have been stronger and stood up to Mama, but then again I know from experience just how hard that can be. Poor Joey can't do it to this day. And I wish he would have gotten back in touch with me after I grew up. Hey, I think I dreamed of him recently."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Just an idea. I woke up with him on my mind and the feeling that I could almost remember the dream. I don't know, maybe it's just because I've been thinking of him so much lately."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, processing goes on even after you leave the office--for you in particular, I've noticed."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. I'll take that as a complement."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome. So do you feel you're closer to getting closure with your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Closer, yes. But not there yet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wouldn't expect that. This has been festering for many years, and you've only been dealing with it for a few short months."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A few months? I've been seeing you for almost a year now. When I started, I didn't think it would take more than a few weeks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This can be a long process. Many people stay in therapy for several years. You're making excellent progress. I don't think you'll be working on this issue much longer."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks for the encouragement."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you reached a decision on trying to locate him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm still wavering. What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Obviously you feel a strong need for more knowledge on the subject."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Obviously. But you've evaded the question. I know you have an opinion. What is it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What I feel about it isn't important. Really, it's what you feel about it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's an evasion, too. Come on, Doctor Balis. I'm asking your opinion. Won't you give that to me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. I have doubts that whatever you find will help you settle the issues in your own mind. I think it's more important to work on what you feel and deal with your reactions to what happened. This is about you and how you're dealing with the loss. Dredging up more details about the circumstances may not be productive."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Are you saying that what's in my mind is the issue, and what might have motivated my father is irrelevant?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not exactly irrelevant, but not entirely essential, either. What's causing your discomfort is your reaction to what happened. I think that's the central issue."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I see. Thank you for being straight with me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, it's not a bad idea. I'm just not convinced it's the most productive course of action."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, okay. I'll consider that. Next topic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How's that cat of yours?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Much bigger. Still quite a handful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Phil's thinking about a ferret."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't think that they're legal in California."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I don't think it's a good idea, though. They seem kind of high strung to me. I'm afraid it would be getting into his supplies or scampering off somewhere all the time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Well, I guess that's it. I'd like to talk more about daddy, but I'm kind of burned out for today."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's all right. We can start again next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, no, actually, I'll be in Texas most of next week on business. We'd better just skip it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Then I'll see you the following week, the 25th. All right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. Keep dry!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. You too."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 35th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHi, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. Whoa, careful! Are you okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I'm all right, just a little dizzy sometimes--Post Concussive Syndrome. It's getting better, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you get a concussion?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got hit on my way to the Austin airport Thursday morning. Good thing I had a full size car, or I'd be hurt worse."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, my. How did it happen?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The light turned green, I started to go through and got hit by a pickup truck full of firewood. Right in the driver's door. Firewood everywhere! I have a sore shoulder, a bruise on my left hip that's slowly moving through every color of the rainbow, and a short nap that slightly scrambled my brains. It also made me miss my plane. I was an hour from escaping Texas unharmed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you feel unsafe in Texas?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, no. That line gets a laugh at the office, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you seen a neurologist?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I got to ride in an ambulance. I don't recommend it. They put me in a neck brace and strapped me to a stiff wooden board so I couldn't move a muscle. Now, that was scary. The guy finally let me move my arms so I wouldn't feel totally helpless. Did you ever have a neurological assessment? Of course you have; you've given them, you're a medical doctor. When I first came to, I actually couldn't remember my name for a minute. So they took me to the high tech trauma center. I got X-rays, I got a CAT scan, I even got an eye exam. I think the doctors were thrilled to get a chance to play with all their toys. They finally let me go Friday afternoon. They gave me this swanky cane, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How long will you need to use it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Up to three weeks, they said. My vision is almost better already, so I don't think it'll be that long. I still don't feel good about driving. Jake has been driving me around."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "On the motorcycle?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh my, no. He has an old junker for when it rains. But right now, he's in my Jaguar. Took to it right quick, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you have that conversation you were planning?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, no, not yet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, the timing never seemed right. You know that Saturday was Valentine's Day. He was so amazingly romantic. He brought over a suitcase full of stuff and made a fondue. It wasn't that good--Jake is no chef--but it's the thought that counts. There was bread, and shrimp, and wine, and all kind of things. It was like that first picnic, remember the Mud Flats?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I remember."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And he rented \"The American President.\" It's one of the most romantic movies of all time, in my opinion."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you couldn't bring up your dissatisfaction with the relationship."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. And now that he's spending so much time taking care of my injuries, it would seem ungrateful. So we'll see. I have been dropping hints, though. We've had some decent conversations lately. I almost told him about you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He still doesn't know you're in therapy?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I'm...I don't know. I guess I'm a little embarrassed to be seeing a psychiatrist. It's not the image I have of myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand, many people feel that way. You don't want to admit a weakness."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Exactly."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But it's not a weakness to be working on your issues, Katherine. It's a strength. You have the courage and perseverance to tackle the tough issues and work your way through them. You're not showing weakness by coming here; you're showing strength."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I can see that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So do you plan on talking to Jake before you go away together?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, I'm not sure. I suppose I should."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I agree."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, that's a few weeks away, anyway. Jeez, I hope I'm recovered by then. I'd hate to have one of those dizzy spells while I'm skiing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm concerned about that, too. I hope you won't push it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll be careful. Oh, shit, there's another one."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What? Oh. I can't recall seeing a crow perch on my window ledge before. I get pigeons occasionally, but never a crow."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hey! Get out! Go! Damn bird."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sorry. The damn crows are freaking me out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know exactly. When I woke up from the wreck, the field was covered with them. I didn't see them before, and I couldn't have been out for more than a minute. They were just sitting there, silent, a shiny black sea of feathers. Several people commented on them, too. No one seemed to have seen them arrive. It was spooky. I felt like they had come for me personally. When the fire truck pulled up, they all flew off at once, a great black cacophony of beating wings and cawing voices. All except this one sitting on a piece of firewood in the road, looking at me. It just stared at me, ignoring the siren. Freaky."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And since then, I've seen them all over. I don't remember seeing crows in San Francisco before."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've noticed them once in a while."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, this is different. It's like they're following me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure it's just perception. You first noticed them during a traumatic episode, and they made a big impression on you. Now you're extra sensitive to them, so you're noticing them where they may have been before and just didn't register. Your mind has them linked to the trauma, so their presence is uncomfortable for you. It's a common post-traumatic reaction."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Post-traumatic? Come on, I had a wreck. It's not like I was in Vietnam."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not making a clinical diagnosis. But you did have a psychological trauma, and you're likely to show some symptoms. Probably they'll fade just as your concussion will fade. We could talk about it some, though. It must have been a frightening experience."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was. I'm sorry; sometimes...lately, I can't think very fast. Could you tell me again why the crows are so scary?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So seeing crows makes me feel like I'm in the wreck again?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, it brings back memories of the wreck."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I notice them more because of the wreck."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Exactly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Vicious circle, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It can be. But we can break it, with a little work. Do you want to talk about it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "May as well. But are you going to be able to explain the fact that they're in my dreams, too? And also that visit we just had?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure that crow in the window was just a coincidence. As for the dreams, that's just part of the same syndrome. But that's a good place to start. Tell me about the dreams."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, I don't have any real details, just images. This morning when I woke up, I actually said, \"Aw, jeez, the fucking crows again.\" I just...I don't know. It's real vague, like dreams can be. Maybe they're watching me, maybe I just notice them. Maybe I'm really dreaming about the wreck and the crows is all I can remember when I wake up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's likely. Recurring dreams are common. They'll probably stay with you until your mind is finished processing the event. Why don't you tell me more about the accident?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Let's go with that as a true memory for now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. So I barely had time to register this truck coming straight for me, and the next thing I knew I woke up all fuzzy-headed and not seeing straight. There was a crowd of people all around already. I was real confused, trying to figure out where I was and what had happened. I looked around and saw the truck glued to my door and firewood all over the place. And then, I heard people talking about the crows. So I looked up, and this field was covered with crows. They just stood there, milling around, not going anywhere, for maybe five minutes. Someone got in and was talking to me, and I remember I couldn't carry on a conversation. It was like my thoughts just wouldn't form right in my mind. I couldn't even tell him my name for a while, and I never could remember his. And I'm usually pretty good about that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That was the concussion. Go on, you're doing fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So he talked to me for a while, didn't let me get out of the car. I couldn't stop looking at the crows; there were so many of them, and I could still hear people commenting on them. I wanted to get out and get a closer look but the guy didn't let me. Then the fire truck came, sirens blaring. Damn those things are loud. Then the crows took off, and that was louder still. I thought my head would burst--all the sirens and flapping and cawing. God..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Here's the tissues."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. I don't think I cried then. I don't think I was really feeling anything at the time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What are you feeling now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, just overwhelmed, I guess. Scared, maybe."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What are you afraid of?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not, really. It's just a scary thing to be in a wreck and have all that going on. I guess I'm just feeling what I didn't feel then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's good. Go on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, how's our time?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Our time is fine, don't worry about it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh...well, then the fireman got in, put that collar on me, and told me not to move. He put a bandage on my head. Then the police arrived--more sirens. Then the ambulance. They put this kind of corset on me to get me out of the car, then onto that board. In the ambulance, I got a pop quiz. I remembered my name, and my birthday, and where I was going, but not my address or my flight number. That was scary--not knowing where I live. So we went to the hospital. The guy, the paramedic I mean, gave me an IV while we were moving. I didn't think you could do that in a moving vehicle, but this guy was pretty good. In fact, everyone was really professional and caring. And I already told you about the hospital."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You told me some. I'd like some more details."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Aren't we out of time?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, yes. But you're doing so well, I didn't want to interrupt the flow. Do you feel you're at a good stopping point now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. All the really weird stuff happened before I got in the ambulance."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you feeling now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't want you to leave here if you're still distressed. You can stay a while."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm fine. I'll be okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is Jake coming to get you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I couldn't have him come here. Phil's picking me up, we're going out to supper."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. We'll work on this some more next week, okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thank you, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome. Good night, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good night."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 36th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, March 4, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh boy, where do I begin? As you can see, I still have the cane. But I think I'll dump it at the end of this week; the dizzy spells are few and far between now. I've started driving again. Jeff has been picking up a lot of the slack around the office while I've been slow on my mental feet, and I've realized something--I'm still doing a lot of the stuff I used to do when I was in his position. I'm supposed to be the idea person now, the big thinker, the one who jets off to Dallas or Redmond or New York and makes the big deals. Instead, I've been tying myself to the office, doing the little bookkeeping shit I should have sloughed off on my assistant weeks ago. And I'm still managing the office, which Frank never did. Plus, Jeff mentioned he was glad to have a little more responsibility, more challenge. So I'm giving it to him. I'm going to become more the executive, less the manager."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you. Do you feel comfortable in that role?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, see, you've done it again. I'm not entirely sure I do. I like being in control, managing, planning, organizing. I'm not that sure of what exactly I'm supposed to be doing as a chief executive. Maybe it's just a transition period. Or maybe it's not really my role to do a lot. Maybe I just take the fall when things go wrong."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you really think that's the case?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, a little. Anyway, I don't mind; I'm getting paid well for it. I don't know, maybe I'm just in an adjustment period."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Could be."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, other office news. Alex came to see me at work last week. That caused quite a stir. Bold-ass gossips in that office. They were whispering at each other and casting furtive glances our way, all but pointing fingers. And they knew I could see them. To think I hired some of those people. I swear they weren't like that in the interviews."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure they weren't. Job interviews are tricky; people try to only show you what they want you to see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Well, that's Jeff's problem now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So it is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So Alex came to ask when I was going to see the baby. He's so excited about his new little brother, you'd think it was his son. Alex is so sweet. You should have seen how concerned he was when he saw the cane and heard about the concussion."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like he's a good friend."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, he is. So with Larraine asking to see me, and Alex so excited about little Aaron, I went to Larraine's home. Larraine nearly died from the delivery. I didn't think things like that happened any more. Anyway, I guess her near-death experience made an impression on her. This was not the same woman who went off on me right in front of her vice president. She was kind, apologetic, and full of remorse. She explained that she was afraid I was taking her son away from her, threatening her motherhood somehow. Doctor Balis, does pregnancy make a woman insane?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wouldn't say that exactly. There is a lot of stress associated with carrying a baby, quite a weight of responsibility. Couple that with a massive influx of hormones and odd chemical changes in the body associated with supporting another life--I think some psychological effects are inevitable. Plus, there may be other stressors in Larraine's life that you know nothing about."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Could be. Or it could be that she realizes that she has to come back to SII at some point and doesn't want to be on my bad side."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't think she was sincere in her apologies?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's hard to tell. It's not like I know her very well. I've met the raving bitch she was a few months ago and then this sweet new mother now. Two different people. And neither may be the real Larraine Rozzi. I think I'll let time be the judge."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds wise."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But she let me hold the baby."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Encouraged me, actually. Female bonding ritual, I suppose. But that baby is small. I mean, really tiny. It's amazing something that little can be a human being and function independently. Well, you know what I mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes. Didn't you know your niece and nephew when they were babies?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, but they were full term. This made me think of them, though. It's about time for a visit. You know, Doctor Balis, I really like kids, but older kids who are just starting to really realize how much world there is out there and wanting to explore it. It's the adventure of discovery; I want to be part of that. Which brings me to the big news of the week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And that is?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jake. God, what an asshole. Sweet, lovable, generous, kind asshole. Turns out he's the one who bought Alex's paintings."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. He was going to give them to me for my birthday last Monday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why so late?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because he fucked up. He thought it was March 2nd, instead of February. At least he got the day right."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So he was going to give me these three paintings for my birthday, but after hearing me talk about volunteer work and the arts and children, he decided to donate them, in my name, to this new youth arts center out near the park. Oh, don't let me forget the park, there's a story there, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Wasn't that sweet? And stupid? I can't decide if I should be pissed or thrilled."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why would you be angry?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's so manipulative. He jerks poor Alex around, spinning this tale about an anonymous buyer. Then, he puts my name on a gift I didn't give. And Alex is going to think I did it out of some sense of pity or charity. Where does he get off fucking with our lives--and our relationship--like that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay, I can understand all that. So why would you be thrilled?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, mostly because he heard me. I've been talking about wanting to get into volunteer work with children and about my interest in theater and the arts, and he put two and two together and came up with three, as it turns out. But he was trying to do something that fit in with what I wanted and that would make me happy. He was damn clumsy about it, but he was trying. I have to give him that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you ever have that discussion with him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah...well, sort of. It kind of all came out at once. See, he presented me with this letter of appreciation from the Bay Area Youth Arts Alliance at supper Monday, for my \"birthday.\" So of course I was mad that he screwed up my birthday so bad. And then, I was mad that he went behind my back and jerked Alex around. See, he was motivated by charity for Alex. He thought he could make Alex happy and me too, at the same time. But it had nothing to do with Alex's work; he just felt sorry for him. So then, as I'm building up this good head of steam, I decide that since we're arguing anyway, it would be a perfect time to bring up this matter of communication. I guess that wasn't the best judgment on my part. And of course, it backfired on me. It turned out that the idea to donate Alex's paintings was sparked by listening to me. But that just happened recently, as I was making serious efforts to engage him in conversation. And that was a real effort at times, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So it sounds like you two had a serious argument."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, there wasn't much argument to it, really. He didn't have much to say. He was so proud of what he had done, how he had figured out this wonderful gesture, and then it all went to hell on him. And there I was ranting about how he never listens, and he had come up with all this by listening to me. Finally, I just sent him home. And he was like, \"Uh? I thought I might spend the night.\" I was thinking, \"Get a clue! I'm pissed. You're not getting any tonight.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But I feel kind of bad now. I know he's confused. And I guess I was kind of hard on him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You haven't spoken since then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was just two days ago. I think I'll call him tonight."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And say what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Apologize for blindsiding him, to start with. Then, try to have a rational conversation about it--explain exactly why I got so upset."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel your anger was justified?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe not with the intensity I showed. But I think I had a right to be upset. He was pretty clumsy about it. If he'd have stopped to think, he would have realized how insulting this will be to Alex and that I might not appreciate him putting me in an awkward position of having to explain to Alex about his paintings. His heart was in the right place, but that doesn't excuse his actions. Does it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not to me. He could have thought this through better. He's not stupid."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you told Alex?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not yet. I know I have to before he finds out for himself and gets the wrong idea. I hate to do it, though; he has such a high regard for Jake right now. He's so happy that his paintings sold. This is totally going to spoil it for him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you have to tell him."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, of course I do. You know, one good thing may come from this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't know about that arts council. I went by there yesterday. Hey, how do you like this--three days in a row without rain? So I went by there, and there they were, three original Rozzies. And the place has art classes and dance. And they're building a theater. They coordinate with local schools, and they need volunteers. I'm doing that United Way committee, but that's only two nights a month. So I think I'll look into this. And it's something Alex might get into, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. So do you know how you're going to approach Alex about what happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. And I know how I'm going to approach Jake, too. I feel one of those long, heavy conversations coming on. The kind that go on until one-thirty in the morning and leave you totally exhausted. And I've got a meeting in the morning--marketing, engineering, Lloyd of course, some others. Something big's coming down. Maybe I'll put Jake off until tomorrow."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't put it off too long."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know, I know, it's boiling right now, and I have to strike while the iron is hot. Tomorrow, I promise."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. Time is almost up. Do you have anything else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, seems like I did. Shit, yeah! You were going to let me forget my park story."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, so I was. I'm sorry. Please tell."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I went to the Arts Alliance yesterday, which I told you is near the park..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Golden Gate Park?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Then, I decided I had some time to kill and some things to think about, so I thought I'd walk around the park, totally forgetting the damn thing's three miles long. And of course, there were crows. They're with me all the time now, watching through the windows at work, calling to me from the trees outside my house. And every time one calls to me, I think of my father. Not sad thoughts, not particularly happy, either; he just sort of comes to mind. So the crows are in the park, and I see this man looking at them. And he saw me watching him, and he said the weirdest thing. He gestured to the crows and said, \"Are they yours?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That is odd."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But he seemed pleased by the idea. Turns out he's a professor of anthropology at U.C. Berkeley. He told me that many cultures consider crows, or more properly ravens, to be messengers from the spirit world. Also, in Native American lore, the raven is a powerful totem--a spirit guide--involved in helping one find a true path, a true purpose in life."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So that's something to think about. The ravens don't bother me any more. Now, I'm wondering what they've come to tell me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How are you feeling about the accident lately?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No problem. I've started driving again, and it hasn't bothered me. I do feel pretty lucky to be alive, and I'm thinking I may as well be doing something with my life, since it could come to an abrupt end at any time. But the...uh, the psychic aftermath of the wreck is not that bad anymore."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. But there may still be something there. We could talk about it some more if you want, next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We'll see. I'll think about it tonight and see if there's any distress left."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. See you next week then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's my cue to go. Okay, until next time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 37th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, March 11, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How are you today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Got some stuff on my mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Go ahead."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Alex. You know, I've noticed that I talk about Alex a lot in here. Does that bother you at all?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. Why would it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he's your patient, too, after all. I'm just wondering if I tell you stuff about him that he doesn't mention. Would that put you in an uncomfortable position?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not really. What we deal with in here is about you. When I talk with Alex, we deal with what he brings up. You're two different patients, and I don't have much trouble keeping you separated in my mind."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, good. That answers my other question, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Which is?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you ever feel like you're doing his therapy through me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't think you're doing therapy with Alex. Are you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, certainly not. I'm not even remotely qualified. I just wonder if you feel like I'm interfering in some way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. I don't get that impression at all."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good. What about me? Am I wasting time in here talking about Alex when I could be talking about my own stuff? My father, for instance?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes, I wonder. That's why I asked."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I've only heard you talk about Alex in reference to something that was bothering you. When you stop talking about your issues and start talking about his, it might be time to redirect. But if there's something that concerns you, which also happens to involve Alex, that's fine. He's your friend and is as much a part of your life as Jake or Phil. You can't avoid that part of your life in therapy just because he happens to also be a patient of mine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thanks. That makes me feel better."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. Now, what's on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Alex. Or rather Jake. Hold on, let me start at the beginning. I told Alex that Jake had bought his paintings and what he had done with them. His reaction was about what you'd expect. I tried to calm him down and to explain that Jake has a good eye for art and must really appreciate Alex's work to spend his own money on it--you know how tight Jake is. But I'm not sure Alex bought any of it. Alex is a pretty bright kid, and he has a lot of experience for his seventeen years. Finally, he calmed down, but he might have just been humoring me. That was last weekend. I saw Jake yesterday, and he didn't say anything about this. So I guess Alex hasn't confronted him. But I feel like I'm keeping a secret, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, Jake is still telling Alex that an anonymous buyer bought his work, but I told him otherwise. Now Jake's in the dark, not knowing that Alex knows. Should I tell him? But that might put more of a rift in our relationship. On the other hand, when he finds out, that might cause problems, too. And, like sands through the hourglass, these are the Days of Our Lives."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's an interesting predicament. You've moved from one tight spot--keeping Jake's secret from Alex--to another--keeping Alex's secret from Jake."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This sucks. Fuck it. I'm telling Jake tonight. I don't want to be keeping secrets. They're big boys; they can work it out themselves."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like a good philosophy."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You know, I want to protect them both. But I just can't be responsible for both their feelings. I have enough trouble handling my own."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're right. You're not responsible for their feelings. And, in the same breath, they are not responsible for yours."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good. I don't want them to be. But speaking of that, I do think I handled a touchy situation very well this weekend."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like you did okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, no, I'm talking about another situation. When I took Alex home from the Alliance--he loved it, by the way--there was a process server on his doorstep."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. He had a summons for Alex to testify in a criminal trial. If Alex doesn't talk about this, are you going to feel like he's keeping secrets from you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I assure you, what is said between us stays between us. It will not affect how I deal with Alex. This conversation is about you, and I will not apply it to my treatment of Alex."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Sorry, I know you said that already. So the upshot is that he was very upset about the summons. So we talked for a while. And he explained his feelings, and we hashed them over some, and it felt really good. I felt bad about the turmoil he was in, but I felt good that he could confide in me and that I could handle it so well. I didn't try to guess his feelings, I didn't lecture him about doing the right thing. When he asked my opinion, I gave it to him knowing he wouldn't agree. But he accepted it as my opinion and not as an order, and we talked about it. It was great."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're a good friend to Alex. You can be proud of that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am. I am proud. But I'm more proud that he trusts me. He talked to me without hesitation, without fear, and he was totally open. And it was easy. I was just being me. All the time I've known Alex, I've just been me. I wasn't trying to be any way in particular. He just likes me the way I happen to be. And his friends like me. And at the Alliance, I talked to several teenagers and had no trouble carrying on a conversation. And they didn't seem to mind that I was twice their age. We related. How do you like that? I relate to the next generation. Without trying. I can use that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can use that? How?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Just how I've been saying--working with youth through art. If I can help kids to trust just a little bit, and help them to express themselves just a little, and help them feel better about themselves...I don't know, the world will be a better place. At least some people will be happier, more at peace. That has to be a good thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly. But what about you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've described how others will feel better. How will you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll feel useful, like I make a difference. Now, I make money. I make people rich. Take this project I'm working on now, it'll make things easier for a lot of people in this society. But I'm not involved with that part of it. My part is to use it to make a few people richer. Not that that's a bad thing. I finally found a way to get some personal satisfaction out of that. The wealth I help create provides security. That's why I'm so pleased with the job I did on the pension fund; even if Social Security goes down the tubes, no one who retires from SII will have to worry about their next meal. I've seen to that, and I'll continue to see to it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So helping other people out and helping society as a whole gives you a personal feeling of satisfaction?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, exactly. I feel good about it. It makes me feel worthwhile."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you have any feeling of obligation? Do you feel like you have to take care of other people?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh? No. I have to take care of myself. I'm not taking care of any one else. That's why I'm not keeping Alex's secret. And that's why I didn't keep Jake's secret. I like to help, that's all. I don't want to carry these kids. I just want to give them a little boost so they can carry themselves. I get a personal feeling of satisfaction from that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I think that's wonderful. I'm very pleased to hear that you've found a purpose that satisfies you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You think I'm headed the right way?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Absolutely. I think what you want to do is a wonderful, useful thing. And I think your motivations are sound. You should be proud."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you think daddy would be proud of me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure he would be."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't wait to tell Phil. I told him I saw the place, but he hasn't been down there yet. And I haven't told him I intend to become involved. I think he'll be proud, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that important to you? Your brother's and your father's approvals?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yeah, they are. I'd do it even if they didn't approve, because I know it's right and it's what I want to do. But I feel better knowing they'll be proud of me, too. Doesn't everyone want approval? Particularly from their fathers?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly. It's just that some people are motivated purely by that to the exclusion of what they want for themselves."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not me. I've been taking care of myself for too long. I took care of me and my little brother from when daddy left until...well, until Phil moved to Charleston, I guess. Until he didn't need me any more. I guess I told you Mama pretty much took care of Joey and left me and Phil on our own. Emotionally, I mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, you talked about that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, well, I'm through being responsible for other people. Until I have kids, at least. Unless, I mean. Unless I have kids."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that something you want?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've thought about it. There's some appeal there. I'll have to think about it some more. Of course, I'd want to be married first. Not that I'm old-fashioned, just that I think a child should have two parents. One doesn't leave you well-rounded enough. Neither does the half-parent that I had. I don't want a fucked-up kid, you know? My parents divorced, so did Jake's. I don't think Alex's were ever married. And look at us. I want my child to grow up well adjusted and sure of himself. Like Phil."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But Phil had the same parents you did."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, then he's the exception. How did we start talking about this, anyway? I'm talking like I've already decided. I haven't."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think it bears some discussion. Obviously, you've given it some thought."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, and I'm not done thinking. But now's not really the time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "More? Why do you want more dreams?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not more, maybe, but clearer. I think something's happening in my dreams. Maybe the ravens are bringing me dreams, I don't know. But I can't remember them. I just get vague images--flying, an airplane, the ravens, and, for some reason, Christmas cookies. I wake up thinking I'm smelling Christmas cookies."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's interesting."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I was wondering if maybe you have some ideas on how to have more vivid, more rememberable dreams. Rememberable? Memorable? Easier to remember, I mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. Let me think on that a minute. Are you having any trouble sleeping? When you fall asleep, are you staying asleep?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. My sleep is fine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are the dreams disturbing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I just want to remember them. I think there may be something there."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thanks, I'll try that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd be interested to hear any dreams you do remember, if you want to share them with me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll probably do that. Brush up on your Freud, Doc, you may have some interpretation to do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I will. See you next week, Katherine. Good luck."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. See you."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 38th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, March 18, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How are you this week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not bad, not bad. How about yourself?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm okay. You seem to be in a good mood."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am. Listen, do you play the market at all?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I have some mutual funds. Why?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was just wondered if you kept up with the financial news at all. You know, Reuters Internet, the Wall Street Journal."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Just what I hear on the evening news. What are you getting at?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, if you're interested, maybe I'll bring you some clippings. So, on to other things."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been talking to Jake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Things are settling down. I understand that he was trying to be nice to Alex and to me. He may have been manipulative, but he didn't mean to be. I mean, he wasn't malevolent. And he did listen to me, after all. He was trying to do things right, to make me happy, and I lit into him like a rabid dog. I feel guilty about it. He really didn't deserve that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He didn't?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I really let him have it. Anyway, I apologized. Poor guy--he thought he was doing all this wonderful stuff, and it just backfired on him. He was trying to be romantic, like in the beginning. I shouldn't have yelled at him, I should have just explained how he hurt me and probably Alex. So I apologized, and we talked. We talked about thinking these things through before acting, and about being direct instead of going to all these elaborate lengths to surprise me, and about our relationship, and how I've been feeling lately that the magic is slipping away."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How did that go?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, the first discussion was trying. We went round and round, trying not to get angry or defensive, rehashing the same things. But since then, it's been getting better. I'm starting to appreciate that he's trying to please me, and he's starting to understand that I can't be bought like that. I'm gaining respect for his efforts, and he's gaining respect for my independence."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like progress."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It is."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you pleased with it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yes and no. It's nice that he's trying so hard and all. But on the other hand, why does it have to be such an effort? He works hard to be the man I want, and I work hard to appreciate it. Should it be so much work?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's a common myth that good relationships just happen, like magic. Some effort has to be put into making any relationship last."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I can see that. We're different people, we didn't exactly grow up together, so we have to make some allowances for that. That takes some effort, some give and take, some understanding, and some looking the other way. Sure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I still don't know if it's worth it. A good relationship with a good man will be worth the effort. But is this it? I mean, god, if he has to work so hard to hear what I'm saying, if he has to struggle to find ways to express himself, I don't think I can respect that. If I was getting a lot of satisfaction from this, it would be worth the effort--a good return on a reasonable investment. But this feels more like a money pit, like constantly struggling to make a house livable, and never getting to just relax and enjoy the view from the parlor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I'll give it a little more time. He really does seem to love me, and I think I love him still. It does still feel really great to wake up with him there beside me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you've resumed sexual relations?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really. He's spent a couple of nights. The first time, it was just because we were up until two tiredly hashing things out. Then last weekend, we cuddled and held all night. We haven't had sex since the argument. I'm not punishing him--I don't want to use sex as a weapon or a prize, that would make me feel like a prostitute. But I just don't feel right about it until things get settled."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. I'm glad to hear you're not withholding sex as punishment."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I hate that. Sex should be given, or not, based on how you feel. If you use it to punish or reward behavior, that's tantamount to just selling it. That's sick. I can't respect any woman who does that. And from what I hear, there's a lot of them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Indeed. I'm still not clear--are you still considering leaving Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've thought about it. But I don't want to do it because I'm mad. I want to get through this little crisis first and use it as more information to make an informed decision. If I dump him in the middle of this, I'll always wonder if it could have worked out. If I do it...well, in cold blood, so to speak, I can be sure I made a rational decision."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I can't say I approve of your metaphor, but I understand your reasoning."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hey, how do you like that? I'm not worried about being abandoned by a man this time. I'm the one considering doing the abandoning. It's kind of a refreshing turn of events."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I guess you could say that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I just did. Next topic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Alex told me he confronted Jake about the paintings. Jake never mentioned it. I brought that up, too. He explained that he didn't want to open that can of worms while all the rest of this was stewing. But he agreed that I was right to tell Alex and that he should have just bought the paintings outright and told him what he was doing with them. Maybe then, Alex would have believed that he wasn't doing it out of charity. And he wasn't, really. He was doing it to please me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And how are things between you and Alex now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fine. And Alex is ready to forgive Jake, as soon as Jake will see him. Jake's been ducking him, trying not to let things get stirred up any more. But I've let him know that's not helping. And I made an excuse to Alex about it, but I'm not comfortable with that, either."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I can imagine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Enough of this, this is tiring. Page three, as the man says. I'm going to work at the Arts Alliance."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. I know you're excited about that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I am. The director's name is Josh Massey. He was an art teacher at one of the high schools until he got the same feeling I have about doing something for unlucky kids. That's what he calls them, not \"underprivileged\" but \"unlucky.\" I like that. I also like something else he said that jibes right with what I was talking about last time. He said, \"I'm just helping to shovel off some of the shit society has dumped on these kids, so they can get out from under it. After that, they're on their own.\" It's not about supporting them, it's just about helping out a little. His idea is to use art to boost their self-esteem, so they can see they have value and something to contribute to society. He's conducting classes himself, and he's got a couple of music teachers donating their time, and local movie and TV people to help with the theater. The theater, that's where I'm going to work. Alex is working on that right now, too. I'm going to ask Phil if he wants to get involved. I bet he will."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I like the sound of this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Come on down, I think we can fit you in somewhere. Josh is coordinating with San Francisco public schools, and United Way, and Big Brothers and Big Sisters. And he's trying to get something going with the juvenile courts. He's running mostly off a federal grant right now, but I'm going to help him apply to the United Way for money. I'll have to learn something about private fund raising. I might become their financial expert."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You may as well make use of your expertise."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. So I feel pretty good about this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm pleased that you've found a way to put your talents to work for your personal satisfaction. Congratulations."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. I'm on my way over there tonight. One more thing before I go, I've been working on the dreams."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, yes. How is that going?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've used your suggestions, and I've gotten a couple of things. It's mostly about Jake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, that has been on your mind recently."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, but that's not what the ravens have brought me. So I looked up Andrew."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Andrew?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Andrew Cullem, the anthropology professor I met in the park."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, yes. Why?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought he might know some magic. He's going to help me on a dream quest."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's looking into how some cultures encourage dreaming for a purpose. And he'll come up with a ritual or a potion, or maybe both, to help me realize what the ravens are telling me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, this doesn't sound like you. You're planning on taking some \"potion\" to extract meanings from your dreams?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I know it's all hokum. I took an anthropology class in college; I know that curses work only because people think they work. You'd call it the placebo effect. But just because the remedy is bogus, doesn't mean the cure is not real. All I'm looking for is some kind of focus, something to focus my mind on what I'm missing. If it takes a ritual to do that, fine. I'll take what I can get. I'll combine it with what you've taught me and see where it leads."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But I'd like to..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Besides, I made a new friend. Andrew is fascinating, if a bit...well, professorial. He has a different take on the world and society. And he's educated. I don't have to watch my vocabulary around him. And he always understands what I'm saying the first time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, that's a good thing. But about this potion..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Well, I have to be going. See you next week. Wish me luck with my dream quest."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not stupid, Doctor. I'll be careful. And I have your number, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Bye, now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 39th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, March 25, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How have you been this week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good. I think my mood improves with the weather."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's not uncommon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I guess not."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Did you hear about that shooting in Arkansas yesterday?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The school children? Yes, I did."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I heard it on the news yesterday and again this morning. I can't get over it. What a tragedy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I agree. It's very sad."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been wondering why it hit so close to home for me. It might be that it happened in a southern state. I hear interviews with the families, and I know those people. I don't actually know them, but I recognize their accents. And I keep coming back to how young they all were. Those kids were eleven and twelve years old, not just the shooters but the victims, too. Eleven is a significant age for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, certainly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's a shitty age for something like that to happen to you, the survivors, I mean. I think of them--how they watched this happen, lost friends, saw them die right in front of their eyes. Of course, there's no good age for something like that to happen."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But the fact that they were eleven makes it much more personal for you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Right. I guess that's not surprising, considering that the most formative event in my life happened at that age."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And this is likely to be the most significant event in the survivors' childhoods as well. That gives you a connection to them that you otherwise wouldn't have. And it probably brings you back to when you were eleven."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Of course it does. But that's been on my mind lately, anyway. And we'll get to that in a minute, I promise. How about that teacher?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I heard that she got killed shielding one of her students."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd have done it. I'm sure of it, no doubt about it. I never would have even hesitated. I've been thinking about the people I know--who would have done that and who wouldn't."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You would. Phil would, without thinking. I'm sure Daddy would. Frank, Mama, Joey, they would. I don't know about Rachel; she'd probably swoon like a properly delicate Southern Rose and be no help to anyone."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I haven't heard you mention Jake."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jake would, but he'd be too busy trying to subdue the shooters. Mister Danger would be charging the woods, trying to be a hero by stopping the kids with guns, and no doubt get himself killed in the effort. But that's just as noble as shielding a little girl. More so, probably--he would have been trying to save the whole group."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That would be fine with me. I can respect that. I even think I'd be proud of him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. And how are things going with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Getting better. Rather, getting back to normal. We've pretty much settled our differences. He brought over a little hors d'oeuvres plate along with champagne and strawberries, and we made love in the gentlest, sweetest way we'd ever done. Then he pissed me off again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The Jackass wrecked his motorcycle. The police called me at work and scared me half to death. I spent all afternoon in the emergency room with him, just to find out he's the luckiest man alive. He hit the intersection too hard in the middle of one of the steeper hills, lost control, and went skidding halfway down the rest of the hill on his back. He was wearing a leather jacket, and it destroyed the jacket and didn't put a scratch on him. He has some tendon damage in one shoulder--the shoulder probably separated on impact and then slid right back into place. He also has a small bump on his head. But he didn't even get a road rash."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That does sound lucky. Jake doesn't wear a helmet, does he?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. He's lucky his brains aren't scattered all over Union Street."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He certainly is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't think I can do this anymore, Doctor Balis. There are some good things about this relationship, and Jake's a nice guy and all, but it's not what I want. There's nothing really wrong with him, not fundamentally. No man's going to be perfect, I know that, and Jake's faults are not insurmountable. But he's not \"it.\" You know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure I do. Can you elaborate?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He lacks certain characteristics that I want in a long term partner--like a basic respect for his own life, a broad understanding of culture and how people operate, and--I know this sounds snooty--an advanced education. I want a man for whom I don't have to edit my vocabulary."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't think that's unreasonable. So I'll have to ruminate on it a bit more, but I think this is it. What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think this is entirely your decision to make."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tell me why I should stay with him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why don't you tell me?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Inertia, mostly. We have a decent thing, I hate to give it up just because it's not all I'd hoped for. I suppose I can keep my eyes open and wait until I find someone more suited to me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Would that be fair to Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, of course not. I'd just be using him for convenience. I wouldn't feel good about that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. What else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Loneliness. I feel like I'm better off with half a relationship than none at all. But then I run into the same thing--I'd just be stringing him along. It's really kinder to cut him loose and let him look for someone else, than keep him in a hopeless relationship until I'm ready to leave him for another man. Besides, I can be okay on my own. I'm a strong, independent woman. I've taken care of myself for twenty-two years; I don't need a man to make me complete."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you, Katherine. I'm glad I didn't have to point that out."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, me too. So if it's not happening long-term, I should go ahead and give it up right away. Man! I've never ended such a deep relationship before; they've always left me. This is harder than I thought."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It always is. Despite your differences, you have strong feelings for Jake. I'm sure you don't want to hurt him. And the end of a relationship is always sad, no matter the reason or who leaves whom."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I can expect a period of grief from this, too?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you can, yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So when are you going to tell him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, like I said, I want to think about it some more. I have to be sure that this is the right thing to do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds to me like you've made a decision."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, then I need a little time to get used to the idea before I go through with it, all right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You should take the time you need."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I won't string him along too long, I promise. I just have to work up to it a little, okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All right. Jeez, we've used a lot of time. About the dreams, I spoke to Andrew."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The anthropologist? And what did he say?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The stuff he came up with is not so much about dreaming as visions. What he's familiar with are Native American and South American vision quest rituals, most of which involve peyote."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I was afraid of that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know you were, and I have to apologize. I was in a hurry to see Alex, and I didn't listen to you last time. Frankly, I didn't understand what you were going on about. It took Philip to explain it to me. \"Gee, Kathy,\" he said. \"Do you think he might have been worried about you taking hallucinogens?\" It hadn't occurred to me. Seems like it should have--it was in my anthropology class in college."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What kind of \"potion\" did you think he would suggest?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was thinking roots and herbs and stuff. Naive, huh? I feel like an idiot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't be too hard on yourself. College was years ago, and that sort of thing is outside of your experience. At least I assume it is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh yes, certainly. I smoked a little pot in college, but I didn't like it. It just made me stupid and silly. I never did anything else."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So what did you tell Andrew?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I rejected it out of hand, of course. He understood, and said he didn't think that was my style anyway. He did have some suggestions about lucid dreaming, though. You know, Doctor Balis, Andrew's not the flake you may think he is. He's an intelligent, educated man with a broad life experience."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has he taken peyote?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, sure. He lived with a tribe in Belize for four months. But that doesn't make him some loser drug addict. He's a respected college professor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm certainly not going to drink this repulsive cactus tea, puke my guts up, and then hallucinate god only knows what. But it intrigued me, so I took a kind of informal poll of my friends to see what they thought."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Phil is against it. He knows it's not for me, and he doesn't approve of hard drugs anyway. And he knows I hate drugs of all kinds. We have this kind of unspoken agreement--he doesn't smoke pot where I can see him, and I pretend I don't know that he smokes at all. But I'm sure wine and pot are all he does. I remember Mama worrying about Philip moving to San Francisco, fretting that he would get involved with the drug culture in Asbury Park."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Asbury Park? Isn't that in New Jersey?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She meant Haight-Ashbury, of course. Mama doesn't get out much. To her, everything on the west coast is either sixties pot parties or nineties movie deals."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Alex was amazed that I even knew what an illegal drug was. He said he didn't think uppers and hallucinogens were for me. He thought that if I want to enhance my experience, I should just try pot. And Jake was pretty much indifferent. He was concerned for my safety, but he didn't try to dissuade me at all. He's done acid before. He told me about being in a safe place with someone I trusted, but he didn't seem too worried about me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did he offer to be there with you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It didn't come to that. I assured him I wasn't going to do it, and we changed the subject."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So about the dreaming. Andrew wrote down some ideas about how to recognize when I'm in a dream instead of real life and suggested I work with that. He also had a little ritual--that I've been doing before bed--using a raven's feather, sage, and some camomile tea. It's basically praying to the Spirit of the Raven and asking it for guidance. Apparently this is common for American Indians, though being raised as a Baptist myself, I kind of have a hard time with it. But, hey, whatever works."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And is it working?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think so. I've been remembering all sorts of dreams, using the techniques you gave me. Now I'm doing this ritual and trying to go to sleep with ravens on my mind or, sometimes, Daddy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You think the message is about your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I kind of hope so."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. Katherine, I'm certainly relieved that you're not considering a peyote ritual. I didn't think that was right for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I agree. I'm sorry I worried you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's all right."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But I may have made a new friend. An intelligent and educated friend. That's a good thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly. Katherine, our time is up. Do you have anything else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Already? Yes, I have lots of other things I want to talk about. But I guess it can wait. I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, here's some news from the wire services that I pulled from the Internet for you. I thought you might be interested; you want to keep up with goings on at the company. Good night."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I do? Thanks. Good night.\n\n\n\n\nMarch 24, 1998, �� Reuters Online\n\nSilicon Impressions Purchases Own Stock\n\nSAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Silicon Impressions, Inc. (SLI) has been quietly moving to purchase large blocks of its own stock in the open market. The San Francisco-based computer hardware and software manufacturer began the unannounced program on Monday in an apparent move to bolster its stock price. The Fortune 1000 company, while showing profits about in line with expectations, has seen little price growth in the past quarter, underperforming the technology sector of the Dow. SLI closed Friday at 27 3/4, up 1/4, on unusually heavy volume.\n\n\n\nAssociated Press, All Rights Reserved. March 25, 1998\n\nSII in Corporate Stock Buy-Back\n\nAP, San Francisco--Fortune 1000 computer hardware and software maker Silicon Impressions Inc. (SLI) continues its quiet buy-back, having acquired over 3 million shares of its common stock over the last few days. Silicon Impressions has seen it's stock price growth slow from an average of over 9% per quarter for the past seven quarters to barely 1% this last quarter, although earnings have grown in line with projections. On Monday, the company quietly began buying back stock on the open market.\n\nThe practice is common for companies trying to bolster their stock, but usually follows a precipitious decline in share price. Silicon Impressions seems to have little need for this move. Silicon Impressions was briefly a suitor for Apple Computers last year, before the return of Steve Jobs.\n\nSpeculation that the company may be trying to artificially inflate its price in preparation for a disappointing earnings report sparked a wave of selling. Silicon Impression's stock was down from a high of 28 1/4 today to close at 27 5/8."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 40th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, April 1, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I talked to Jake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And we're getting married!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. We had a good talk about our relationship and about commitment, and we decided to get married. It's happening in June."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This is a surprise."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "More than you know. Doctor Balis, what day is it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's Wednesday. Why?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Wednesday?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Wednesday, April First...oh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Gotcha!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, you did. I wasn't expecting an April Fool's joke from you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No one does, it's so out of character. That's what makes it so effective. I've been having a blast at work."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can imagine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I'm through with that for the day. Down to business. I did talk to Jake on Sunday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did that go?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too bad, actually. I had my mind made up, so I was secure in the knowledge that I could stand my ground. And I handled it pretty well. Have you ever had to fire anyone?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I haven't. I'm sure it's not easy."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's never pleasant, but anything gets easier with practice. If you're careful, you can make the employee see that it's the best thing for him and for the company. And if it's not, then you shouldn't be letting him go in the first place."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you used these arguments with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I used those skills with Jake. We sat down together and evaluated the relationship, enumerating the strong and weak points, and we agreed that we weren't a long-term prospect. And so we decided that we may as well not bother to continue."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did he take that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fine. Almost too well."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm chagrined to find that I'm a little disappointed about how well he took it. He was sad that it had to end, but he said he suspected he wasn't going to be able to hold on to me much longer. He said he was thrilled to be in love with me for a while, but he knew all along that he was out of his league. That's just how he put it. It was all very civil."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. So what's disappointing about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I'd feel better if it would have broken his heart a little. Is that mean?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That depends. How would that have been better?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I'd feel more like it was worth it, like it was more real, like he was as invested in this as I was."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But Jake's lack of investment was part of why you left him."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, okay. I just want to know that losing me is a real loss. That I'm not just another woman to him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you're not just another woman. You're a successful, educated, intelligent woman--you have a lot to offer to a man. You're sensitive and caring. You're willing to make a deep investment in the right relationship. These are values you have, that you know about. It seems like Jake's inability to see that was part of the problem."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If he can't see what a great thing he had, that's his shortcoming."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Exactly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Wait a minute. He did know; he said so. He said I was a great woman and he was sorry he wasn't able to hold onto me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think Jake didn't feel strongly enough to put forth the necessary effort to preserve the relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, that's not it. We just don't fit. He was trying, too. And we might have made it work. But it would have been just settling, for both of us. Neither of us is the other's ideal mate. But I still feel a loss."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Tell me about that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was a comfortable relationship. But I didn't expect to be sad after it was over. I thought it would just end. Now, I find I miss him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you having second thoughts?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not really. I know I did the right thing. I guess I don't really miss Jake as much as the relationship. Actually, I suppose I won't be missing him at all. We agreed that just because we're not meant to be a couple doesn't mean we don't like each other. So we might hang out together some time. I did enjoy the hang gliding, and hiking. We might do some more of that stuff together."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you're still friends."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hope so. If I can pull it off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you ever had this opportunity before?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I've only had the one other serious relationship. Oh, hey. I wonder why I didn't notice that before?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Back in college, I was in love with this guy named Andrew. This man I just met, his name is Andrew, and he's associated with a college. What a coincidence. Or is it a pattern?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you see Andrew as a romantic interest?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Gee, I don't think so. I never considered it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is he much like your previous Andrew?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not much. Not at all, really. That one was more like Jake--adventurous and athletic. Okay, forget it. I got dependent on that first Andrew, and he took off for an adventure. I didn't get dependent on Jake, and I dumped him. And we may still be friends. And the new Andrew is nothing like either of them. So I'm not following a pattern, never mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. So are you happy with how things are now with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So far. It wasn't as ugly as it could have been. And we may remain friends. That would be nice."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. So, I'm still learning the lessons of Frank. I've moved all the day-to-day office responsibilities to Jeff, and I'm even going to get him involved in the upcoming insurance renegotiation. Now I know why executives are so hard to reach in the office."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because they're not there. If there's nothing big on the burner, there's nothing to do. So they play golf, they vacation, they network. Right now, there's this one big project that's been taking a lot of time...this reminds me, I have another clipping for you, Doctor."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 41st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, April 8, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Pretty good. Hey, that's my tie!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it is. I'm sure I've worn it before."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I've never noticed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wear it frequently; I like this tie. Katherine, last time we agreed to talk about your continuing concern with your father's approval."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, yeah...well, I think that's kind of solved."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been dreaming about him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I'm thrilled, it's really been prodigious. The rituals worked. I developed this bedtime ritual with the tea, and the burning sage, and a sort of meditation, and I combined it with the recall and directed dreaming techniques you suggested. Success! I've been doing it for weeks, but it didn't really start to work until I started sleeping alone on a regular basis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Congratulations. What did you get?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A series? You mean on consecutive nights?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I told you it was big. I could write a series of essays about it. I can hear myself now on \"This American Life\" or \"Sound and Spirit.\" \"Interviews with Daddy,\" by Katherine Lippard. In fact, Andrew wants me to dictate it all as a case study in paranormal phenomena. He has a psychologist friend--sorry, parapsychologist--who is very interested. But I don't think I'm ready for that yet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's paranormal about it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Andrew believes that I might be communicating with my father's actual spirit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Channeling the dead?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. And what do you think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm trying to be open-minded, so I don't want to totally discount the possibility. But it does seem a little far-fetched. It's not like I transcended this spiritual plane, I just focused my dreams a little."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've altered my state of consciousness more profoundly with jazz and gin, and I've never seen dead relatives in the haze above the tenor sax."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So what do you think is happening?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess it's me. My subconscious is revealing things I know to be true but haven't been able to convince myself of yet. Does that sound too Freudian?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If it's not explicitly sexual, it's not really that Freudian. More Jungian."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Oh, well. Anyway, let me tell you how it all started. I've been getting pictures of ravens. So in a lucid dreaming exercise, I've been asking them what they wanted. I did this all the time, awake or not, so that it would become automatic. It's been pretty weird asking every raven I see what it has to tell me. I got some strange looks. More than one person stopped and asked, in all seriousness, what the raven said back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not surprised. We are in San Francisco."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, indeed. So one night, I was dreaming, and I asked the raven what it had to tell me. It told me to follow it--not in words, I just knew that's what it wanted. So I did, and it flew over this hedge maze. I went in, but then I couldn't see my guide any longer. So I wandered around this maze for what felt like hours, making no progress. When I woke up, I realized I needed a guide that I could see on the ground. I thought about who or what I could bring into the dream to help me, and the best idea I could come up with was you. I hope you don't mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not at all. I'm glad to be of service."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. The next night--that would be Saturday--I again asked the crow what it had to tell me and followed it into the maze. And again I wandered around for hours. Then I remembered and called out to you. And you appeared between my feet--in my dreams, you're a mole."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's flattering."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't be insulted, you'll know soon why moles are on my mind. You guided my through the maze. Sometimes, you got ahead of me, and I lost site of you around a corner. Sometimes, I followed you down a dead end. And when I tried to ask you for help, you weren't in front of me any more but around some other corner, saying I had taken the wrong turn. And then--I love how dreams can change scenes dramatically without you noticing at all--you were holding the door for me to go into my old house in Marietta. Only we didn't live in Marietta, we lived in Decatur. But I heard of a plane crash in Marietta last Saturday, so that explained that. Hey. Now that I think of it, I believe you were wearing that tie."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was I still a mole?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, no. You were you by then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, this is a wonderfully detailed dream."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Isn't it though? So I went into this house, and it was deserted. There were just a few forgotten things from the move. But they weren't the kind of things you'd ordinarily forget. The curtains were still up. There was a chair here and there. I saw my favorite stuffed animal. I remember having it, but now I can't think of what really happened to it. There was a pad with drawings on it that must have been Philip's. And there was Daddy's flight bag. That just tore my heart out. I fell to my knees, crying \"Daddy, Daddy\" over and over again, just sobbing. I've never felt such strong emotion in a dream before. It was more than I could take. The dream just fell apart at that point. I woke up crying."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This was a very powerful dream. Here are some tissues. Can you go on?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I'm okay. The phone rang almost immediately after the dream ended. It was Philip. He felt something was wrong, so he called. I wrote it all down while he was on his way over, and then we talked about it over breakfast. God, I love my brother. He never thinks I'm crazy, he never thinks my feelings are inappropriate. He fully understands what I'm going through with Daddy. He doesn't find it at all strange that I'm enormously successful and yet still dissatisfied. I may never get married, Doctor Balis, because no man will ever live up to my brother."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You do seem to have a good relationship with him."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. But that was the longest, most engaging conversation we've ever had about Daddy. I talked and cried for hours. And he was right there with me, understanding, even crying along with me sometimes. I have the most incredible, wonderful brother of all time. I'm sorry, the tears aren't all about Philip. The whole dream thing was...is pretty emotional for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. Take a moment to compose yourself if you need to."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. Sometimes, I'm a woman when I least expect it. Anyway, that dream triggered a catharsis. I talked all about how I felt when Daddy left, and what Mama did to me, and how I drove and drove myself to meet his expectations when I didn't even know what those expectations were. I know I've told you all that, but that was different. You're behind that desk with your note pad and your serious looks. To you, I'm relating symptoms; to Phil, I was living reality."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I'm sure you have a different rapport with your brother than you do with your therapist, although I believe you've had pretty good contact with your feelings in here. But it can be important to talk things out in different ways with different people. The more you work something through, the more it will reframe itself in your mind."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh huh. So the result of all this was that I felt much better after talking to Phil. And I knew that all my confusion and turmoil was okay with him. He understood. And I know that it's okay to have these feelings. Finally, he asked, \"So what are you going to do next?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "In a dream, of course. I was so excited about it, I couldn't wait to go to sleep that night. I was so anxious that I was afraid I wouldn't be able to make it happen. The ritual helped, but still I woke up twice during the night. Once, I was just dreaming about ravens. Another time, I woke up with a vague, fuzzy memory of the maze. Finally, I told myself, \"This is ridiculous. Just relax, go to sleep, and if it happens, it happens.\" And the pressure was off, and I went right there."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This time, I opened the door to the house myself, you weren't there at all. I got to Daddy's flight bag, and when I looked up, there he was, sitting in his rocking chair--the one he used to sit in to read to us. He picked me up onto his lap like I was six, but really I was eleven. And then, I was thirty three, just as I am now. I was all three ages at once, and it was not at all incongruous."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's the magic of dreams."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. We talked. That was last Sunday. And then we talked again Monday night. Last night, he told me I didn't need to see him any more--he said everything was all right now. And I think he's right."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Then why are you crying?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm going to miss him. I have to let him go now, he's right about that. I can't hold onto this memory, this pain, forever. I have my answers now, so I have to say goodbye. Daddy's gone, and I'm going to miss him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I think this is a very positive step. These dream conversations sound like the closure you've been looking for."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think so."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Can you tell me what you talked about?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do we have time for that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd like to hear it, if you can talk about it right now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did she mention it when you spoke a few months ago?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, never."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Please, go on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I always intellectually understood that he was following his dream, but I never could grasp how that could be more important than his family. Now I see. He didn't intend to lose his family. He thought we could get back together for high school, or at least keep in touch and visit and all. I felt like he was running away. He explained that he was running to--he was pursuing his destiny."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. What about the rest of it? You said that he was proud of your accomplishments?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think that is a sound advice. You can make yourself miserable trying to shoulder the weight of a dysfunctional society."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I'm going to try to dream about him again tonight, but somehow I don't think it'll happen."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like you've turned a corner with this, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I have."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think we should talk about this more next week, okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I hope I can make it; it's shaping up to be a busy week. I may get my name in the papers."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll look for it. Are you okay now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, thanks. I'm fine. I'll see you next week. I'll call, if I can't make it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. Good night, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good night."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 42nd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good. Great! I can't believe how good I feel this week. Did you see the news?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You mean SII's new product? I read the Wall Street Journal story; it sounds exciting."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes indeed. And the stock continues to climb as we speak. Don't sell just yet. It has a way to go still."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. I'll keep that in mind."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You don't seem very excited. You bought, didn't you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, this is your therapy session. I don't think we should spend it discussing my finances."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh. Well, you had your chance. I did what I could."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And I appreciate it. Now what else made your week so good?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The product announcement was a great success. And the company is poised perfectly for it. I have strategies, plans, and contingencies in place to take full advantage of this new boost in value and the upcoming influx of cash. And I can't believe it all came off so well! The way the rumor mill runs inside this company, it's amazing none of this leaked before the announcement."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Of course, until just a few weeks ago, it was a secret inside the company. It makes me wonder what else Product Development is up to. But now, I'm going to take a break. And then I'll spend May and most of June gearing up and working on the new budget. We're going to pay down the debt, expand some programs, and give P.D. more money. We may even use our new valuation, if it sticks, to start absorbing a few small competitors. That should make Lloyd happy--he's always had takeover fever."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That all sounds good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. So, what else makes me happy? Phil got another big contract over in Albany--a floor tile mosaic, can you believe it? There's nothing that boy can't do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I thought Phil was a painter."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's his favorite medium, but he likes to try other things, too. Once, he spent an entire week on an etching in copper. Then, he did this multi-pass thing on metal photographic plates--I don't even pretend to understand that. And last night, I took him out to supper. He brought an Etch-A-Sketch to the restaurant and drew a very flattering portrait of me between the salad and the fish course."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He did a portrait on an Etch-A-Sketch?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Amazing, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then he just shook it up and started on something else. He's always doing something like that. He just can't keep still; he has to be creating all the time. The landfills are full of original Lippards that he did just to pass the time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. What else happened this week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm starting to hear that Jake's not doing well."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I guess it hit him harder than he let on. He's been getting drunk and rowdy, taking chances, and really living with abandon."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Jake has always been a risk-taker."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This is different. He's a thrill seeker, but he always takes the proper precautions."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, not with the motorcycle. But he took all the swift water emergency classes when he got into kayaking. And he carefully inspects his lines before climbing. And he got an FAA certification he didn't really need for the ultralights."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's different now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Now he's ignoring the regs. I heard they threw him off the cliffs when he came to hang glide drunk. And I saw him the other day; he has a bruise on his face from Australian rappel."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Australian rappel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's when you run full speed and leap off forward free-falling until the rope catches you. Ordinarily, it's done off an overhang or a bridge. He tried it off a cliff and came crashing back into it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, my."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, ouch. I'm worried about him, but what can I do? I can't go back to him. And I'm afraid if I try to talk to him, it might make things worse."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't think you're responsible for his behavior. The two of you agreed that splitting up was best for you both."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. But like I said, I still like him and would hate to see him get hurt."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand that. You can talk to him and make sure that he knows that you didn't reject him personally and that the breakup was not a comment on his value as a person. Let him know that you're concerned about him and still value his friendship."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Being careful, of course, not to lead him into any false hopes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Of course. You know, this may just be his way of grieving."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've said that Jake is not good at expressing his feelings. If he's feeling loss or frustration, this risk-taking behavior may be the only way he knows to vent those feelings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So are you saying that he just needs to vent and then things will get back to normal?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's a possibility."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I suppose so."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, we haven't talked about your dream at all."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, we haven't."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I couldn't do it again. I couldn't get him back. I tried for a few days, but finally I just gave Andrew back his turtle shell and went back to sleeping normally."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too bad, really. I hate to let Daddy go, but I guess he said his piece. Any more and it would just be nostalgia."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Katherine, do you feel that you actually spoke to your father's ghost?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really. Alex does, though. It seems my experience is very similar to something that happened to him recently. I have to say I'm surprised that he doesn't see ghosts around every corner lately."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, never mind. Just when I think he's starting to grow up, he goes and pulls some stupid teenage shit again. I can't help but love him, and I'm still his friend, but that doesn't mean I approve of everything he does."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Of course not."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But that's off the subject. No, I don't think I was really talking to my father's ghost. Not directly, anyway. I suppose in some way, I could have been. I mean...it's hard to explain."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Give it a try."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I suppose part of him is always in me. He made an impression on me, so I'll always carry both the memory of him and the imprint of his teachings."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But I can't totally discount the psychic connection. Philip and I read each other's moods from across town. And I remember the time he got beat up in Charleston, I woke up in Charlotte in the middle of the night knowing he was hurt. So I suppose I could have picked up a little of Daddy in the same way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Where exactly do you think your dreams came from?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been thinking about that. I guess the only explanation is that I made them up myself. I've been thinking about Daddy so much and trying so hard to direct my dreaming, that my unconscious took what it had--the memories, the imprints, maybe even a little connection--and combined it with my own desires to come up with something I could accept and use."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like a reasonable explanation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But this means that it was all me. It means that I have to accept that what he said was my own words. If you take this explanation of dreams, than dreams are just me telling myself that I should be proud of my accomplishments, and pursue my dreams, and do what I'm good at. And that I shouldn't be ashamed of who I am."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Those are all good things to tell yourself."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess they are. It's just a little hard to reconcile--unconsciously I feel one way, but consciously I still wonder if I'm on the right track and whether I'm taking more from society than I'm giving back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's perfectly normal to have conflicting feelings. Sometimes, different things pull us in different directions. In your case, you have your father telling you to pursue your dreams, and your school teaches you to do well in business, and our society advocates getting ahead at all costs."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Add in the things you've recently learned from Alex and Jake about relationships, and you've got quite a recipe for confusion."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I have to sort it all out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, you do. And I'm here to help."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know. Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And if you feel like you should be contributing something more, you can do that, too. You can be a big help to the Arts Alliance without leaving your job. I think you're already on your way to reconciling your conflicted feelings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. I need a little positive reinforcement sometimes. Doctor Balis, do you believe that we're each put on earth for a specific purpose?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel about it, Katherine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not sure. I don't subscribe to the notion that we're all part of some large, divine plan, exactly. But if it was true, I think it would probably be for several purposes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I can see that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh well, it's not like we'll ever know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I suppose not."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. See you next week, then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 1st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Monday, April 21, 1997 at 4 pm.\nMs. Lippard?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. You must be Charles Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes. Please come in; have a seat."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. I don't know exactly where to begin."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why don't you tell me why you're here?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not just yet. Do you know who I am?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I gather you work in accounting at SII."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm the Accounts Manager. Mostly I manage the pension fund, working directly under Frank Herald. Do you know him?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I don't think so. Should I?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's the Chief Financial Officer. I believe you're treating his daughter, Christina."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure you know that I can't discuss my patients."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then she is a patient."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can't even tell you that. Is that what you came here to discuss?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Would it make it easier if I said that Frank told me his daughter is seeing you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Ms. Lippard, as a psychiatrist, I am not at liberty to discuss any of my patients, even with their family. I just don't speak about my patients at all."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That was a test?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hope you'll treat me the same way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Of course. All of our conversations will be held in the strictest confidence."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And there's nothing that will cause you to break that confidence?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, absent a patient's consent, there are only a few times I can think of. There are certain cases where my professional responsibilities would override the doctor-patient privilege. For instance, if the patient was likely to cause imminent harm to himself or others. And sometimes a psychiatrist can be compelled to testify by court order."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Have you ever had to do that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not yet. I hope that situation never comes up. Are you concerned about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not really. I'm no danger to anyone, particularly myself. It's just, for professional reasons, I don't want SII to know I was here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I do, of course, have to bill your medical insurance, but I believe the individual names and services of each employee are kept confidential by the HMO. I assure you that SII won't hear about your treatment from me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That will be satisfactory. Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you ready to tell me why you're here?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's a little embarrassing, really. A silly thing happened to me last week, and it's been on my mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Go ahead."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, last Wednesday...I should start by saying that I usually have lunch in the same place every day. I go to a sushi bar next to the Embarcadero--Kansai. Do you know it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've passed by."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I sit at the same stool at the bar, near the end, and the chef knows my name. The waitress always brings me green tea without asking, it's very nice--comfortable, you know? And I eat and brainstorm, and I run a tab. It's part of my routine. Is that strange?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Having a routine? Not at all. Please go on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm getting there. Last Wednesday, when I got to the restaurant, there was someone in my seat. So I asked him to move, and he wouldn't. So I explained that this was my regular seat, and he said, \"Look lady, I'm here now. What's the difference? Go find another place.\" And the chef, of course, he wouldn't intervene. He's a businessman. He tried to settle it diplomatically and said \"Please, Ms. Lippard, there's a very nice place over here, away from the rest.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you take the seat?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Kenny?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The chef."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you just explained that he couldn't intervene because of business."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, of course, but somehow that didn't stop me from being angry with him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So how was your lunch?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fine, I suppose. It's always good there. But I really don't remember. I couldn't get any work done, I couldn't enjoy the meal, I just ate and got out. But it bothered me the whole rest of the day--had me all off kilter. I couldn't even go there the next day, I was afraid that man would be back. I worked through lunch, ate nothing. But I got almost nothing done all day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been back since?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I went back Friday. Everything was back to normal. Kenny had missed me, and made me something special. But this one little thing had me all out of whack for two whole days."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That does seem excessive."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's what I thought. So that's why I'm here. It seems like not getting the right stool at the bar wouldn't be such a big thing, to screw me up for two entire days. I figure something is really wrong with me to be affected that way, and I had heard from Frank about you, so I thought I'd see what you could make of it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You see what? What do you make of it? Am I losing my mind? I mean, I just have one drink a night, I don't act recklessly, I don't hear voices. This is the most I've lost my cool, the most I've raised my voice, in I don't know how long. So what's going on?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think we'll need a little more information before we can find that out. What do you think it was about this man that affected you so strongly? Was it his manner? Did he remind you of someone?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He was in my seat!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay, I understand, stay calm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm sorry. I don't know why this is so aggravating. I apologize."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's all right. So it wasn't about the man, it was about the seat."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, it was about my routine. He blew my routine, and I couldn't recover for two days."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Do you have many of these routines?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A few, I guess. I mean, I brush my teeth the same way every time, I take the same route to work, I watch the same newscast. Do those count?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, most people get into routines like that. It helps to stabilize our lives, and lends some predictability. What if one of your routines is interrupted--say road construction forces you to take a detour on the way to work. Does that upset you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, sure, any delay is annoying. But I think I'd recover. What bothers me about this is that it affected me so strongly, for so long. That doesn't seem right."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If it's a problem for you, then we can deal with it here. We're almost out of time, but this deserves more work. Can we meet again next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Let me check my calendar. Yes, the same time next week works out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. I'll see you then."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Goodbye, Dr. Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Ms. Lippard."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 43rd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Lippard, Wednesday, April 22, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nGood afternoon, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I brought you something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This is interesting."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The pyramid represents focus and power. And look what's inside."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yin and Yang."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Balance and harmony. I think this is a pretty good representation of what you're about and also of what I'm about--what I'm trying to do here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you, Katherine. I have just the place for this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I like that there. Obvious, yet unobtrusive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes. Thank you again. So, what's on your mind this week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I've settled a few things. Now that all the hullabaloo has died down at the office, I've had time to think about the dreams."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And what have you come up with?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That I'm right. Assuming that everything in the dreams came from myself, I'm right. I like what I do. I work hard on my plans, and it's satisfying to see them come to fruition. I saw my pension plan described in the papers as the envy of the industry. I'm proud of that. Something I did is held up as the best in the business. So I'm not a social worker or a lobbyist for Amnesty International. The creation of wealth has value, too. I'm good at what I do, I'm proud of it, and I enjoy it. What people do with the wealth I help create is their business."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly. And what you choose to do with your own wealth is your business."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Right. So I'm comfortable with my job; I'm keeping it. Do what you're good at and don't worry about what other people think."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I still want to do something more, though. I'm staying with the Arts Alliance and Social Venture Partners. And I'm thinking about Junior Achievement, if I can find the time. I'm really coming into my own. I'm fleshing out, doing things that I enjoy and that gives me a good feeling about myself. I wish I had started this years ago. It would have made the corporate climb much more fun. Then again, I think I'm able to do all of this now because I'm not climbing any more. I'm as high as I want to go. Now it's time to see what else is out there."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think that's true. And it could also be that reaching the top is what triggered this spiritual crisis in the first place."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, like, \"Where do I go from here?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Exactly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's settled then--no major lifestyle changes. So what if people call me a \"limousine liberal?\" My heart is in the right place. And Daddy would say, \"Follow your heart.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Something else on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I talked to Mama."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She said there was no problem with her marriage before Daddy left. She would have gone to the ends of the earth for that man. It's like the way I feel about Philip only, you know, romantically."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "They weren't fighting. There were no issues. She didn't like being away from her family. But other than that, things were great. So said Mama."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't believe that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's too much of a good thing, you know? No dissension, no arguments. And no excitement. A person must get tired of being perfect all the time. I wonder if a king grows contemptuous of his adoring subjects, knowing that he's just a man like the rest of them, knowing they're too dense to realize that the only thing that makes him better than them is the coincidence of his name and the privilege of his education."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you believe your father grew tired of his family because he felt their love for him was misplaced?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, not misplaced, exactly. Tedious. Overwhelming, maybe."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. What led you to this conclusion?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, it's not a conclusion. It's more of a hypothesis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I'm going to suggest something you may not like."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. I'm ready."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you think is the chance that your mind invented this impending trouble between your parents in order to exonerate your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Do you mean that I'm choosing to view his leaving as inevitable in order to avoid blaming him for what was clearly his option?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's a possibility, I guess. It would fit in with the way we've been viewing this dream."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it would."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, that makes sense. But the point is moot, anyway. It's too late for blame."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Certainly. None of this is really about him, is it? It's about me. Laying blame will get me nowhere; I have to deal with what I have now, in the present."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's correct. It's good that you can recognize that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Through? With what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Therapy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What makes you say so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm pretty well settled now. My neurosis about having everything in order is gone. I don't even have many patterns any more. Ha! When I think about how boringly structured my life was when I came in here, I'm amazed I didn't do this a long time ago. I'm really out of my shell. I go out, I do things on impulse, I change frequently. I'm not afraid to try new things, meet new people. A year ago, I would never have been able to befriend Alex, or work with the Alliance, or even take a walk with Andrew. Oh, I didn't tell you about that, did I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Andrew's been taking me places I didn't know existed around here. I live only a couple of miles away, and I spend most of my time here in the financial district. I hadn't explored the western part of the city at all. It's amazing--there are walking trails there where you can't even hear the traffic, much less see it. So, we've been getting to know each other. I think he's a little flaky, but at least he's intelligent and knowledgeable--which are different things. And maybe I can have a casual relationship with this man."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I invited him over one night, and it was clear what I had in mind. And he accepted, we made plans. Then just before we got ready to go to my house, he casually mentioned, \"You do know I'm married, don't you?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No! I wouldn't have asked him if I had. Good god, I'm enjoying being a free spirit and all, but I'm not an adulteress."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He didn't think it was any big deal. Apparently, those professor types do this all the time. He said he was very much in love with his wife and wouldn't jeopardize his marriage for anything. But don't you think sleeping with another woman would tend to strain a marriage?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It usually does."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He felt that if she didn't know, it wasn't a problem. But he understood my point of view, too. We discussed it rather than argued. So we're still friends. In fact, I'm going to meet his wife."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you comfortable with that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. I haven't done anything. And I won't give him away. What he does in his marriage is his problem; I'm not involved. I enjoy his company, and if I like his wife too, so much the better. Maybe I can go to some faculty parties and have some really deep, stimulating debates."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, this is certainly a more liberal outlook than I would have expected from you just a few months ago."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are those your only issues?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. I was uptight and didn't like myself. I was concerned with seeking approval for my actions to the point where I was ready to throw away my whole life. But I'm better now. What am I missing?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. And what about your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't need him any more. I gave myself his approval--that was the dream. And if the dream really was him, then he gave me his approval. Either way, it's not an issue any more."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But this doesn't change the fact that he left you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, it doesn't. So what? I don't hate him, and I don't resent him for that. I don't blame him. I understand. And I forgive him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And so the whole issue just goes away? Is there any pain left from that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure there is. Of course there is. Don't you remember the conversation we had about grief? It's going to hurt for as long as it does, until I get over it. That's natural. I understand that, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. But I'd like to talk about this some more. Let's meet again. We can carefully evaluate your progress next time and see where that leaves us. Okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. Who knows, maybe we'll come up with something?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe we will. Next week, then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. See you then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 2nd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Monday, April 28, 1997 at 4 pm.\nGood afternoon, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good afternoon, Ms. Lippard. How are you today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Busy. Mondays are always rough. What do you have for me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I beg your pardon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You've had a week to consider my case. Do you have any insights? Do I have some mental disorder or did I just go overboard about nothing?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, you certainly responded strongly to a stimulus that others might find trivial. But that may or may not be part of something significant. If you're looking for a diagnosis, it's too early for me make one, or even to know if one applies. I'll need some more information first."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, ask away."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You spoke of having a number of routines. Do they extend into your work? Do you have certain ways of getting things done, certain processes that you have to follow to complete a task?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not sure I'm following you. There are things at work that need to be done, and I do them. My criteria for picking investments doesn't change much; the things that make one stock sound make any stock sound. So I do the research the same way each time. I worked hard to get the accounting department functioning according to my systems, but now it works smoothly. Everyone knows their responsibilities, and they handle them. Oh, you should have seen that department when I started! Things got done, but organizationally, it was a wreck. Everyone had their own methods, their own filing systems. I worked my ass off for...oh, excuse me, I worked overtime for months to..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's okay, you can speak plainly here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. I'm afraid I'm picking up some of Phil's habits. We've been spending a lot of time together."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Phil?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's, uh...never mind. Philip's not important to this right now. I'm afraid I got a little carried away. Did I answer your question?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Mostly. It sounds like you're more concerned that things get done efficiently than that they get done in a certain way."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes...but, not really. I mean, if there is an efficient way, I want it done that way. And if the whole staff does it the same way, there's minimal waste. But if someone can show me a better way, we'll all start doing it that way. I'm not a power hungry tyrant; it doesn't have to be the way I came up with, it just has to be the best way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And this applies to you too, not just your staff?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Certainly."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And what about accuracy? If it gets done correctly, is it very important exactly how it got done?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't expect anything less than the right answer from my staff, every time. The standard is perfection. That may sound a bit harsh, but you have to realize that we're dealing with a billion dollar company here. Little errors can make a big mess in a big hurry. But if you do it by the systems that are in place every time, the answer will come up right, every time. Oh, wow, you just heard part of my interview. I give that little speech to potential accountants during their job interviews. It's weeded out more than one."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, it sounds straightforward and honest to give fair warning about what standard you expect in your employees. Those are good qualities in a manager. What about your personal life? Same attitudes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well...I'm not entirely the same person at home as at work. I like to loosen up a bit at home. As for the way things are done, I'm not as concerned with finding the best way; I just find a way I'm comfortable with and stick to it. As for perfection, I'm still pretty demanding...of myself, I mean. I can expect my employees to perform to my expectations, but not my friends."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you're not concerned with efficiency in your personal life?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um...not usually. Sometimes. But often I'll keep doing things a certain way even though I know there's a better way, just because that's the way I do it. It makes me feel good that way. For instance, when I plan the menu and the shopping list, I do it all on the computer. I know I could just jot it down on paper in half the time. But no, I have to have two documents open side by side, and move from one to the other as things occur to me, then get them formatted and printed nice and neat. I know the checkout girls think I'm nuts, with a computer printed shopping list with little check marks by each item. But it makes me feel better, somehow, to have everything in order."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Are there many things you're so...detail oriented with?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A few. I'm a very neat and organized person. Is there such a thing as pathological organization?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That depends on how much the organization interferes with what you're trying to accomplish. Are there times when you get so wrapped up in the process that the task itself never gets completed?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. It's funny you should mention that. That's something I've been working on. Or rather, something I've had to work on. I had that problem for a while in school--you know, I'd spend so much time getting ready to study, making sure the environment was just right, making sure I had all the materials and so forth, that I'd use up half of my study time. I tried to deduct that time from my social life but I spent so little time on having a social life that it didn't help much. So I had to break myself of that, of all the preparations and stuff, I mean. But I guess I did it all right. Can't waste much time and graduate Summa Cum Laude from Harvard."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Summa Cum Laude, and from Harvard. That's very impressive."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's why I went. And it worked; Frank Herald was all aglow about my MBA from Harvard when I interviewed. But truth be told, I cheated. I transferred to Harvard just for the last part of my MBA. Did most of my MBA at the University of South Carolina, where I'm from. God, if Frank knew that, he never would have hired me! He can be such a snob."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you have any rituals that you have to do? Anything that must be a certain number, like counting, or washing your hands a certain number of times, or something? Any superstitions that are really quite strong?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really. I can't think of anything like that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, it sounds like you have a pretty good handle on things. Not everyone could have recognized that the need for everything to be just so when studying was actually interfering with the studying itself. And then you seemed to have worked to solve it quite effectively."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. I like to think I have my life in order."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It would seem that you do. In fact, given what you've told me, I don't know that I could be of much benefit to you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't follow."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Ms. Lippard, aside from being very organized, and that one incident in the sushi bar, you haven't told me anything that unusual. We could meet and talk, but I don't think I would be much help. You haven't shared with me any areas in your life in which I could render any particular assistance. And since you asked me whether the incident in the sushi bar was indicative of some mental disability, I can assure you that, without more, it is not. There are always some things, trivial to others perhaps, that can throw someone for a loop. Your need for organization and your concern about detail doesn't seem to have affected your ability to function at quite a high level. You seem to be quite level-headed, you seem to know yourself well. You don't seem to be exhibiting any particular anxiety or distress. Your physical health, from what I can see, seems fine. You're a busy woman, and I don't want to waste your time. So, unless there is something else, I don't see any need to continue therapy."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "[Silence]"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Ms. Lippard?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So you're saying I'm fine?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm saying at this point I don't see any particular benefit to long-term therapy."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well...good! So I just overreacted that one time? You don't think I'm in danger of having my routines take over my life?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I have things pretty well under control."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fine. Then we'll call it a day. Feel free to call me, of course, if you decide that there's something else you'd like to talk about."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll do that. Thank you, Doctor. It's good to have a clean bill of health."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're quite welcome. Have a good evening."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. You too."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 44th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, April 29, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Enriching. Yes, I think \"enriching\" is the right word."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Have you heard of 7th Plane?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure. What is it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's a computer animation firm. About two years ago, I bought a big chunk of stock, waiting for it to get acquired by a bigger company. I even thought of mentioning it to Lloyd as a takeover target. They landed a big contract last week and the stock went up 260% in one day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's quite impressive."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought so, too. So I dumped it. And since this is much more than I planned to make on this stock, I'm wondering what to do with the excess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure you'll think of something."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm sure I will. The Arts Alliance is doing well."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's good to hear."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like a good idea. What did Josh think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He likes it, but he can't manage that and the Arts Alliance, too. So I'm going to try it myself. He and Leigha are showing me how to apply for grants and maybe some education money. Leigha's been very nice. She's a public relations and fund raising specialist; we've been working closely together. I'm the business manager, did I mention that? All it means is that I keep the books. But it's what I'm good at, and I'm helping to keep the Alliance on its feet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you, Katherine. It certainly sounds like you have a lot on your plate."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I'm having to prioritize. I've decided against J.A., I'd rather do the Recreation Alliance. Social Venture and United Way are only two afternoons a month each. And with nothing on the burner at work, I'm down to half days most of the time. I have the time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you're doing things that you enjoy, and that make you feel good. That's certainly better than laying out your clothes at eleven thirty every night and eating lunch on the same stool every day."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Wow, I haven't done that in awhile. How do you remember that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I looked over my notes. We were going to talk about your progress today, remember?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So we were. Okay, let's do it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've made great strides in your control issues. When we met, you were a rigid, unyielding businesswoman with no place in your life for frivolity or joy. You exerted inordinate control over every detail of your being and were markedly distressed when that control was thwarted. In fact, one such minor incident was what prompted you to seek therapy in the first place."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I remember. It seems kind of stupid now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure it does. How do you feel about having control of your life now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, more normal. I'm certainly more flexible. I don't schedule. I don't care if things don't happen the same way twice. It's now okay when little things have to get put off. I let Jeff take over the office--that was letting go of a lot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does your need for control, or your perception of a lack of control, ever cause you distress?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes. I'm only upset when things get really hairy or when something's going to cause a big problem. Mostly that's at work, though. In life, I just do things when they need doing and go with the flow. And I'm comfortable with that, if that's what you're asking."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yes! I get a great deal of satisfaction from that. I feel useful, and there's always something to do. I think part of my control stuff came from just not getting out much. I was bored and needed something to fill up the time, so I developed all these routines."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's interesting but I think it's only part of it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're right. Part of it was the corporate persona, and part was...well, I guess part was a reaction to a feeling of powerlessness over a chaotic world."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I agree. But why do you think you began to feel powerless?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not sure. I hate to say it all goes back to Daddy, but I can't think of another reason. What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You once told me that you felt you should have been able to stop your father from leaving. I believe that your inability to control this important event in your life--despite your overwhelming desire to do so--may have been at the heart of your feelings of powerlessness."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, of course I couldn't control that. The decision was made, there was nothing an eleven year old girl could do to change that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But at the time, that girl thought she should have been able to. The beliefs you held at that time in that context are what shaped your thinking."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I can see that. But I've reshaped those beliefs and no longer feel the need to control the world. The world is beyond control, like it or not. And sometimes, I don't like it. Too bad. I just have to do what I can."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay, on to social issues."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't realize I had this whole grocery list of problems."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Most people do. You're an intelligent woman with a complex psychological makeup. It's natural to discover and explore a variety of issues during the process of undergoing therapy. Frankly, I'm impressed by the speed and efficiency with which you went through them."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome. So let's go on with the social issues. I detected a fundamental loneliness at the beginning of our sessions together. How do you feel about that now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm too busy to be lonely now. I know dozens of people, and I'm meeting more every day. I don't have a large circle of real friends, but that's growing, too. I don't seem to have trouble meeting people or deciding whether I want to get to know them better, although most of the time I don't. People as a whole aren't particularly stimulating to me. I may never have a gaggle of friends like Jake does, but that's okay. I have Phil. I might meet some more people through Andrew. And it looks like Leigha will be a friend--my first female friend, how about that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay, all that sounds fine. But what about romance? You've only had one relationship since we've been working together. What are your feelings regarding that experience? How did that leave you feeling about men and the chance of finding a life partner?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh well, disappointed. But I've really only dated two men seriously in my life. I guess it might take a few more tries before I find the right one, if there even is a right one."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That would be a shame, of course, but I guess I could live with it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you want to have children?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sort of. I'm not sure. I'd want to be certain that the father will be around for the long haul if I decide to have kids. But I may not need that. I think I can get a good deal of maternal satisfaction from my work with youth. I guess I'd like kids of my own, speaking in the abstract, but it's not a priority right now. Then again, I'll be too old soon. Well, you know, maybe I missed that opportunity. I guess I'll have to make the most of what I have."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How do you feel about men in general?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "In general, I'm cautious. I think most of them can't be trusted. But I haven't lost hope. I'll keep my eyes open, and if someone good comes along, great. If not, too bad. But I'm not going to settle for less than what I want. If all I can have is second best, I'll just do without and use my energy in different ways."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a strong statement."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This is a big issue. Why should I invest my emotion and energy in a man who isn't worth it? I have better things to do with that energy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Have you seen any crows since the dreams?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Once in a while. They check up on me from time to time, I think. Andrew thinks they are my spirit guides, and I guess I could do worse. I just see two or three at a time, though. It's not like they still flock around me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. In retrospect, outside of your dreams, do you really believe they were flocking to you personally?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't come up with another explanation. Other people noticed it, too. I know the whole mystical thing is out of character for me, but I'm just reporting what I saw. It feels weird to me, too; it felt weird at the time. Maybe that's what it took to get me on track for my revelation about my father. I don't mind. But I'm not going to go all New Age on you, if that's what you're getting at."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's not exactly, but it's good to hear that you have a realistic perspective on it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And a little mysticism and spirituality is a useful thing in this world, don't you think? Okay. What else?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel now about your father's abandonment?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was wondering when you'd get to that. I feel sad. I lost my Daddy. That's a hard thing to take at any age. It's too bad I wasn't allowed to properly experience my grief at the time, but I'm back in touch with it now and I'll get over it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you hope to accomplish by taking to your mother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Discussion. Catharsis. Healing. I'm not going to keep it bottled up forever. It's a sore point in our relationship, and we need to iron it out so we can get over it. Or rather, so I can get over it, and we can go on being mother and daughter. I don't want to carry this anger to my mother's grave. But I'm waiting until I can talk about it rationally, rather than have an argument and make things worse."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Very wise. But I still don't hear you assigning any responsibility to your father."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, jeez. This again?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I just don't think you have a realistic view of your father. You've said yourself that his leaving wasn't your mother's fault."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, okay. He left, and that was his decision. But he hadn't planned to abandon us, it was Mama who cut him off. I understand why he had to go. And I sympathize with how torn he must have been between his dream and his family. As for a \"realistic view,\" I like the view I have, thank you very much. I like who my father is inside my mind, and I'm not interested in changing that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. We've only touched on your older brother a few times; anything there you'd like to discuss?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not that I can think of. I don't have a lot of respect for him, but that's not an issue. He's my brother, so he's okay. I don't have any issues about him that I know of."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, Katherine, on the whole I'd have to say you've made remarkable progress. Your initial complaint seems to be gone, your self image seems strong, and your natural grief appears to be progressing normally. You're gaining experience in social and romantic settings, but continued progress in that realm can't be accomplished through therapy alone; you just have to practice."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But I'm not certain you've fully processed your feelings of abandonment by your father or your feelings of resentment toward your mother. And I suspect that there might be something more about your relationship with your older brother..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So you don't think I'm finished?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you're very close. I'd like to keep seeing you for a while. But if you feel like you would like to decrease the frequency of our sessions together, I think that would be okay. How do you feel about changing to every other week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I'd be okay with that. I'd like to set a goal, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I want to be finished with therapy by the fourth of July."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Well, let's make it a goal, but not a mandate. Okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Deal. So I'll see you in two weeks at the same time?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "May thirteenth. See you then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't hesitate to call, if you'd like to talk before then."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Good night."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 3rd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, May 7, 1997 at 4:00 pm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Ms. Lippard. Come in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi. Um...I don't know where to begin. I'm kind of embarrassed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that? Because you called me after hours? I assure you that's not a problem; that's why I have the service."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, thanks, but it's more than that. Like I've been holding back. I mean, I know you're a therapist, and anything I say stops here. And I know this won't work unless I open up and tell you what's really going on. But that's really hard to do. It's like...it goes against my nature. I've spent so much time being the consummate professional--calm, strong, organized. It's like that's all there is now. I'm a grown woman, damn it. I own a home. I manage a staff. I should be able to say what's on my mind! But no, I come in here, ready to talk, prepared to just spill my guts...and then I can't. I keep playing the cool professional--got it all together, wasting my time and yours. Hell, I played it so well, I even fooled you, who's trained to see through that crap! Even fooled myself. Almost."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But not entirely."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not entirely. I was stunned when you cut me off last week. First I was happy to know I was basically okay, but then I was cursing myself because I'm not okay and I couldn't say it. And I had blown my chance with you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wouldn't..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, no, I know that. You said I could call if I needed to, I know that. I knew it then. But I wasn't dealing with facts and logic at that point. That's another thing that embarrasses me; reason didn't enter into it. Despite the truth, I got all worked up. I...oh, this isn't coming out right."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Go on. I think you're doing fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, let's see. So I'm embarrassed that I kept playing the professional in here where that's not necessary. I'm embarrassed that I couldn't do what I came here to do. And I'm embarrassed that I lost my cool, that I was drinking and smoking and feeling sorry for myself. And that I called your office drunk and pissed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I'm embarrassed that I kept my cool, and I'm ashamed that I lost it. Isn't that something? I can't win either way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You know something? I was fully prepared to duck you forever. I was ready to keep making excuses, tell you I was okay, go back into my professional mode, and resign myself to misery and loneliness for the rest of my life. God, what a loser."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So what changed your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Phil. It's always Phil. That boy loves me so much, it's just amazing. He was with me Thursday, egging me on to call you. And then he came to the office Monday, to make sure I called back like I promised. Came to my office! In the three years we've lived here, Philip's never come to my office. He...uh, how did he put it? He \"disdains the corporate culture.\" But he came Monday, not to force me to do something I didn't want to, but to make sure I did what I knew was right. I swear, that boy would walk through fire just to get me out of a parking ticket."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess the tables have really turned, haven't they? Now he's taking care of me. You want to hear Phil's take on all of this?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He says the organizing, the cleaning, the hoarding, the lists--all that...he says it's not about those things. \"Control,\" he says. I'm a control freak. And you know what? He may be right. I'm okay as long as things go as planned. My plan. It's when things change--something happens that I didn't predict--that I lose it. And then I get mad that I lost my cool! Because then I'm not in control of the situation, but more importantly, of myself. What do you think of that? Make sense?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It would seem to fit with what you've told me so far."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So there it is. At last. After two weeks, two packs of cigarettes, two phone calls, two hours and...damn...thirty minutes of therapy? Finally, I got something out that we can work with. Wow. I feel kind of...relieved. It's like, that's a success in itself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It is a success. The first few steps are usually the hardest. You should be proud."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hey, cool. You mean this is progress?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Absolutely."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So what now?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Now the real work starts. You've established that control, particularly self-control, is a major issue for you. If we can find out why, how this developed such importance in your mind, we can work to relieve that. But you should be prepared to find out that control may not be the central issue."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You mean the way the orderliness is not the real problem, but control is? Are you saying control is not the real problem, either?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Demanding control and insisting on self-control isn't necessarily a crippling problem by itself. There are lots of people who use it as a positive tool in their lives. The problem arises when issues of control cause unhappiness to a person and to the people around her."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm very unhappy, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Then we should work on these issues."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How deep does this go?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's something we'll have to find out in time. And it will take time. Just as it took time and effort for you to get to this point, the process of therapy happens in fits and starts. Is this important enough to you to make that effort?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Yes it is. I can do this. Hell, I made myself the successful woman I am today, and that wasn't easy; certainly I can do the same thing with my personal life."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a good attitude. There is an element to therapy that is almost like work. You have a strong work ethic."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So, I know we've just gotten started, but what's my prognosis?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd say pretty good. You're insightful and open, you're able to figure out what's on your mind and then express it, and you obviously have the intelligence to be able to assimilate the insights that you gain here into the rest of your life."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What about medication?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't think medication would be appropriate in your case. If you are having difficulty sleeping or if you exhibit some other symptoms, that may change, but right now I think that we'll do better with some relaxation and refocusing techniques that I can show you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, no meds. What about a time frame? How long should this take?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's impossible to say. It's only our third session. You can always let me know if you feel that it isn't working for you. Ms. Lippard, may I point out that you're acting like the consummate professional again? You're turning therapy into a project with schedules and deadlines. Did you notice yourself change?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh my, I guess I did. Sorry. I guess I need some practice."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It will take some practice. You've been in that role for a long time. And there's a place where it's appropriate, of course. I just want you to know I'll call you on it if it seems necessary."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Of course. That's your job, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Exactly. Well, I think you've made a wonderful first step today. Can I count on seeing you at this same time next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. Frank's got me working on this cockeyed scheme for Major, and my responsibilities seem to be changing at work, and...what? What's that look for? Oh, man, that's not the way to do this, is it? Okay, yes! I'll see you next Wednesday at four. And you may as well block out the same time for me every week. I'll work something out at the office. Like Phil says, \"Fuck work, this is more fun!\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Very good. I'm proud of you. See you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And the week after that, and the week after that, and the..."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 45th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, May 13, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHey, Doc! Miss me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How have you been?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. I found out that we pretty much don't have a financial department after three forty-five on Wednesdays."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Apparently this started when I was the office manager. They realized I had a standing appointment and would never be there on Wednesday afternoons, so everyone just got in the habit of taking off early. The newest guy actually thought it was a long- standing policy! So between coming in at eight thirty in the morning, taking an hour off for lunch, and leaving early Wednesdays and Fridays, I figure the average work week in my department is about thirty five hours."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that okay with you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What's the hell? The work gets done. Besides, managing the office is Jeff's job now. So I'll go with the flow--I'll go to the Alliance on Wednesdays."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds reasonable."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was thinking on the way over here about all the things I have to catch you up on. I'm used to only telling you a week's worth of stuff; so much can happen in two weeks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't have to know everything that happens to you, just the things that affect your emotional well-being."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, all of this bears on my psychological state."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Go ahead."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I had that talk with Jake that you recommended. I took him out to dinner--just friends--and we talked. He admitted he was hurting over the breakup. I admitted I was, too. But we agreed that getting back together would be stupid. I assured him that I didn't reject him personally. He agreed that we weren't meant for each other long term. It started off rather awkwardly, but after a bottle of wine and an hour of conversation, we got comfortable with each other again. I think we can stay friends."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like a good thing."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think so. I've never done that before; it'll be interesting to see if I can pull it off. We're going hiking this weekend with a small group."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Going with a group is a good idea. And I think keeping Jake's friendship will be good for both of you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So do I. You know, when I told him that I didn't reject him personally, I thought I was lying. Do you remember all the things I said about him being shallow and uneducated?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I do."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's not, really. Mostly, he's just uncommunicative. I think I was just using those things to help justify leaving him. I really do respect him, and I like him. I'm just not in love with him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "People often come up with a list of negative attributes--real or perceived--to help them get out of relationships. But most never realize it. It shows a great degree of self-awareness to notice what you were doing."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. I'd like to have seen it while I was doing it, but I guess I still need some practice."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Anything gets better with practice. You have a good start. Just try to keep an eye on yourself and sometimes stop to ask yourself, \"Is this what I really believe, or am I making this up for some other purpose?\" Continue to practice being aware of your own motivations and emotional and mental states, and you'll do fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I will. I like knowing what's going inside my head. I'm surprised I did so well for so long without understanding anything about how my own mind works."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Most people go a whole lifetime that way. You're way ahead of the general population."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm, I like that. Of course you know that's going to go straight to my head and make me even more snooty and superior, don't you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't think so."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's a very neutral response, Doctor Balis. It's almost as if you didn't know about this. Yes, Larraine is marrying the father of her oldest son, a mere eighteen years late. And I'm invited, can you believe it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really? Are you going?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I will. I want to show her there's no hard feelings. But I went to Nordstrom, and my god! They're registered for Lenox and Waterford and other equally pricey luxury items. I've been to Larraine's house, and this is way beyond her. It's as if she's trying to buy social status. This reminds me of my sister-in-law--she's more concerned with social standing than with any kind of practicality."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure Larraine and Mark already have all the normal household items they need."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm sure that's true, but unless they're entertaining the Kennedy���s--or my sister-in-law--they don't need two hundred dollar leaded crystal brandy snifters with individual sterling silver warmers. I might get them a crock-pot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you serious?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure! At least they might actually use it. I don't care how rich you are; it's a waste of money and resources to display fine china in a case just so people can be impressed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Speaking of wasting money, I may sell my condo."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm thinking about a house high up in Forest Hill or maybe over in Sea Cliff, although I do like my view of the Bay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why do you want to move?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I just want a house with a little lawn. I guess I'm kind of nostalgic for space. Plus, not being all about business any more, I don't want to live downtown. When I leave work, I want to leave the business district, to have that demarcation between my job and my life."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. A clear separation can keep things in better perspective."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Exactly. Plus, I have this ton of money to spend."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "From that stock trade you told me about?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds very nice."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll support studies of teen crime and after school programs, things like that. If Robert Wood Johnson and Charles Stuart Mott can have foundations, why not me? I'll use all the skills I used to build the retirement program to build a charitable foundation. Maybe it'll even live on after I die."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's very noble, Katherine. But you have quite a lot on your plate now, don't you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I do. But Leigha is being very helpful. We're becoming quite good friends. You'd be proud of me. I like her a lot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to hear that. It certainly sounds like you're enjoying your life."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am. Finally, I am. Doctor Balis, I am profoundly grateful. I couldn't have done this without you. I know it's your job, but I don't think that just any therapist could have done what you did with me so quickly."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you, Katherine. But I'm just a facilitator. You did the work."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Your modesty is thin, Doctor. Go ahead and beam. I see you wanting to."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is anything else on your mind today, Katherine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, in fact there is. I've given some more thought to my father."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know you think that I should be upset with him or, I guess you expect it. But I just love him too much to be mad. If Phil told me he had to move to Paris to be the kind of artist he wanted to be, I'd want him to stay of course, but I'd tell him to go. I guess I'm disappointed that Daddy never got back in touch with me, but I'm not mad at him. I'm hurt about what happened to me, but it's too late to do anything about that now. What I can do is try to help kids who are in that kind of situation now. That's part of what my foundation and the Recreation Alliance will be about. I'm angry about what happened to me as a child, I'll admit that. Maybe it's not directed the way psychiatry thinks it should be, but it is what it is. And I'm angry that other kids have to go through that through no fault of their own. But I can help make it better. Maybe I can't personally make a kid's life better, but I can provide the funds to pay someone else who knows how to do it. That's what I'm good at. If I can prevent one little girl from growing up like I did because of some screw-up by her parents, then it'll be worth every penny I spend."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you can help considerably more than one little girl."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hope so. Boy, I really got on a soapbox there, didn't I? That sounds like the start of a good fund-raising speech. Maybe I should write that down."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I will. That just gave me an idea for a series of dinners. I'll discuss that with Leigha tonight. She's cooking dinner for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's nice."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It should be. Well, thank you again, Doctor Balis. You've really made a difference. Uh, would it violate your ethics to give you a hug?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think that would be all right."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good. Okay, see you in two weeks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 4th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, May 14, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good afternoon, Ms. Lippard. How have you been?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "God, busy. Frank has me...but I'm not here to talk about work, am I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can talk about anything you want. If work is a concern, there's no reason we can't discuss it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well...there have been changes, and it's making me nervous."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Go ahead."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm afraid my role is changing at work, and I'm not sure if it's for the better. Major, that's Lloyd Major the CEO, has decided to try for a takeover of Apple. I think I mentioned that. Now that's a much bigger company than this one. Of course we don't have the capital to pay for it, so we're looking at a leveraged buy-out. Frank's job is to figure out the right combination of loans and bonds and so forth to both insure the takeover happens and that the resulting company can still function financially. That's the background. Ah...before I go on, I want to check something with you. Or rather, point something out. Am I doing the \"professional?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A little. But it was in context."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I spotted it! It's almost like I can feel the switch. Aren't you proud of me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes indeed. That shows great self-awareness."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, cool. Here's where I come in, so I'll try to turn off the professional. Frank has delegated a lot of this work to me. I don't mean he's getting me to do the research, make the calculations, and brainstorm tax strategies--that would be my usual role as his assistant. What's happening is that he's...well, basically, he's made me his partner. We're working on this together. He's treating me as an equal, letting me--no, encouraging me--to come up with my own ideas and flesh them out, make calls to the investment bankers and financial institutions--the whole thing. It makes me nervous."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why's that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's something I haven't done before, and I'm clumsy about it. But Frank is holding my hand and being real patient, helping me along. It's more like I'm an apprentice than a partner. At first, I wondered if the project wasn't impossible and he was looking for someone to share the blame when it all went to hell. But the way he's helping me out, I don't think that's likely. But what's really bothering me is that I don't know what's going on. Things are changing and I'm not keeping up with them. And this isn't totally new. Over the past few weeks, Frank's been showing me his filing system, introducing me to contacts. Last week, we even had lunch together and discussed the financial future of SII. Discussed--with Frank asking for my input and not just telling me his vision--so I would be prepared. It's got me all off balance."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's understandable. This sounds like a major change from your regular routine. How are you reacting to it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too badly, actually. Not like the sushi bar incident. God, that was really extreme! Now, I'm back down to my usual smoking routine, not puffing around the house like I sometimes do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Your usual smoking routine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. One with the six o'clock news, one with the eleven."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Go on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "At work it's been so busy, so intense, that I haven't had time to really worry about it. You know...it seems like when there's a lot to do at work, I handle the little annoyances so much better, even at home. It's when work is boring, routine, that I get all worked-up about things. Isn't that odd? When things are really haywire, I can handle it. But when they're not, I...I feel more like they are, more than when they really are. Did that make sense?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you mean that the busier you are, the better you handle life's little stresses?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And when your mind is relatively unoccupied, you tend to dwell on the little things, blowing them out of proportion."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Exactly! So that happens a lot?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's fairly common. I believe there are two things going on. First, the mind works better under stress, to some extent. The higher the stress, the more efficient are the thought processes. That's true up to a breaking point, where functionality drops rather precipitously. That's why projects don't get done until the deadline--the pressure heightens the abilities. The second thing, which I think is more significant in your case, is distraction. When you have a lot on your mind, you don't have time left to dwell on little things, so you just let them go. Have you noticed any particular event in the last week or so that would ordinarily cause you anxiety, but that you've managed to just brush off?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I think I was a little more tolerant of things not going my way--lines at the supermarket and such--but I thought that was just your influence."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not likely. We haven't been working together long enough. Although, the simple fact that you're pursuing therapy may relieve your anxiety somewhat. But let's get back to the office. What is it about your new role that's disturbing to you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's it exactly--it's a new role. Frank's taken me out of what I'm used to and is making me do things I'm not prepared for. It's a big change and I don't know why he's doing it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But wasn't it a big change when you took this job? I assume you haven't been with SII for your whole career."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I haven't. You don't know much about my career, do you? I moved here from North Carolina to take this job. I was an investment banker. Yeah, it was a big change, but it was my doing. Do you see the difference? I knew what I was getting into. I made the calls. I decided to move. That was my idea, and I negotiated it. This is different."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When you moved, you were in control of the situation. But these changes are being thrust upon you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Well, there it is again, isn't it? Control. Shouldn't we be working on that, instead of wasting time with what's going on at work?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, in one sense, we are working on the control issues. Part of my job is to help you develop insight into the psychodynamics that influence you. Part of the role of therapy is to help you function better in the present, while developing a core set of beliefs and attitudes that will allow you to function better in the long run. If the control issues are critical right now, we can work on that directly. But what we do here together is not wasted even if all we seem to be doing is discussing your problems at work."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hum...I'm not sure I follow. Remember, I have a degree in business, not liberal arts."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay, I'll rephrase. The more comfortable and happy you are in your present circumstances, the easier it is for us to work on really difficult issues that cause you problems both in your private life and at work. So it's okay to talk about what's going on now, before we get into the deeper stuff."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Ah. Okay. So where were we?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You mentioned that the changes you're experiencing now are more distressing to you than the ones you went through when you moved here, because then you held the reins and now you're being led."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I like the way you put that--very poetic. Yeah, I'd like to be more...or, rather, less anxious about this. I mean, it's not like I can't handle it. I've coped with bigger changes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a good attitude. You've worked yourself up the corporate ladder to the position you're in now, and you seem to be good at it. It's obvious that you have the abilities and the business sense. You haven't been afraid to tackle new challenges before, and at the heart of it, this is just another new challenge."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, yeah. It's just that I didn't take this on of my own accord."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But it sounds like you're handling it pretty well so far. You've talked about your anxiety and insecurity, but I haven't heard about any problem behaviors. You've even settled down from last week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm healed!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Now..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know, I know, I was kidding. But it's still pretty uncomfortable, even if I'm dealing with it right now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That may not be such a bad thing. You can learn to use that. Properly channeled, that energy can be used to help you through this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like the stress that improves performance you were talking about."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, like that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I can use my stress to work harder."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "In a way. Just don't end up putting more pressure on yourself and making it worse."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Gee, we didn't get much done today, did we?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "On the contrary, I think you got a great deal accomplished. You identified a problem area, talked it through, and came up with a coping strategy. You recognized the corporate persona and consciously did not allow it to take over the session. And you stayed open and aware of yourself through the whole session. I think that's tremendous progress after only a few sessions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it was you who came up with the coping strategy. But I guess I'm doing okay. I just wanted to get serious about figuring out where my anxieties are coming from, and we didn't even get started."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Ms. Lippard, I have to caution you about getting too eager. If you push too hard, you run the risk of becoming frustrated. You're doing great work here; just be patient and stick with it. The rest will come."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. I'll try to keep that in mind. Same time next week?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll be here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm looking forward to it. Until then, then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good afternoon, Ms. Lippard."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 5th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, May 21, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nAfternoon, Dr. Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Ms. Lippard. How are you today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Scared. Haggard. See this?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I bought it Monday. I've never carried a briefcase before. Even at the bank, when I was making investment decisions minute by minute, I never took work home. I mean, not a bit. I don't even get Business Week and The Wall Street Journal at home; they're delivered to the office, and I leave them there. Now I'm taking home spreadsheets; I'm writing proposals late into the night. I'm losing sleep."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's changed?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The Apple project has become a real bear. I can see it all going to hell and taking me with it. I'm spending all day meeting with bankers and investors, and all night crunching numbers and thinking up strategies, and I'm still not getting anywhere."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's the problem?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It just won't fly. I can't get the capital together to make a successful bid. What should really happen is that Apple should buy us, not the other way around. If we buy them, the resulting company will be carrying so much liability that we won't see the light of day for the next decade. Unless we can sport the spectacular growth of a young Wal-Mart--and both companies are just too old and too big for that kind of expansion--nothing I can think of can both create a strong, profitable company and allow the bid to succeed. It's driving me nuts. Frank's at his wits end, too, but it doesn't seem to bother him. That's the real problem, I think. I'm tearing my hair out trying to make the crazy scheme work, and Frank, who's really ultimately responsible for it, is not stressing at all. I think my career is on the line here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yours? I'd think if anyone's job was in danger it would be Frank's. But certainly no one's going to get fired if you decide the project simply can't be done."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know if that's true. Major can be one of those \"if you can't do it, I'll find someone who can\" kind of managers. So I'm under a lot of pressure to make this work, but if we try and it doesn't work, then my head will be the first to roll."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why yours? You're not the Chief Financial Officer; you just work for him."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's very good. You're learning to rechannel stressful energy and to avoid dwelling on issues you can't change."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Progress, huh?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, excellent progress for the short time you've been in therapy. But I have to caution you again, there may be setbacks, too. Integrating these attitudes is a matter of practice, and you're not going to be able to get it right every time right away."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn it, Doctor! Every time I make some kind of progress you have to shoot me down by telling me not to be excited about it. It's like you're holding me back. I wonder if you're not trying to stretch this out as long as possible."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Whoa! Settle down. I think the insights you've made are remarkable; I'm proud of the progress you've shown, and I've said so. I just don't want to you to become frustrated if one day you aren't able to put these insights into practice as well as you have before. Therapy is an irregular process. You won't progress at this rapid pace all the time; there may be periods of time when very little seems to be happening. Sometimes you may even feel like you're losing ground. I'm not belittling the progress you've made; far from it. I think it's wonderful. I'm just trying to keep your expectations reasonable."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "As for lengthening the therapy process, that's clearly an unethical practice and I simply don't do that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Well, okay. But can you accept that I understand all that now and not bring it up again? I want to feel good about the progress I make without wondering when it might slow down."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Accepted. I apologize if it seemed like I was harping on the subject."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You were talking about your job being on the line."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I said this has become my project. Frank has been very helpful, giving me ideas and helping me make contacts and stuff, but he's managed to really distance himself from this. He's been out of the office a lot since this came up; I don't think he's spent five full days at work in the past two weeks. So I'm taking calls on things he's had in the fire that I know nothing about. I can't even give the number crunching to the accountants, because I've already given them almost all of my regular stuff. That's why I'm taking work home now. And Major called me for an update this morning. Called me directly--didn't even want to talk to Frank. Which was good because Frank sauntered in just in time to go to lunch. Apparently, he's made it clear to Major that I'm in charge of this project. I think he wants a scapegoat. What if he knew from the beginning that this deal's impossible, and he's setting me up to take the fall, protecting himself. Damn! I thought he had more integrity than that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like you're making a lot of assumptions. Have you spoken to Frank about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What am I going to do, accuse him of setting me up?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Of course not. But you could express these concerns to him, tell him you feel left out to dry, and ask for some more support. You might find out that he has tremendous confidence in your abilities, and feels comfortable putting his career in your hands."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Or I might find out that I'm a sacrificial lamb. Of course..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If that's the case, I could start looking for another job right away. Get the jump on him. Take control back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That is a possibility. But perhaps you should find out where you really stand before you start planning to quit."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess I should. Sometimes I look so far into the future, I can't see the present."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well put. Sounds like another new insight."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. With all the warnings about not being disappointed still in mind. Oh hell, I can't believe I didn't mention this!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Wow."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn right, wow. Does it sound a little more like I'm on my own here?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes it does. All the more reason to talk to Frank, let him know how alone you feel in this. And find out how alone you really are."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Yeah, I'll have to do that. Tomorrow. Thanks. You know, this is really helping. I mean, the way I'm refocusing and keeping perspective on what's really important. And I never would have confronted Frank about my feelings if I hadn't talked to you. I'm glad I'm doing this. Thanks for helping."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to. That's why I chose this profession. It looks like we're about out of time. Until next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I'll be here. I'm skipping workouts, but I'm not skipping this. You know what really gets me? Now the professional is coming home with me, too. It's not like I ever had an active social life, but at least home was separate from work. I'm not relaxing at home, and like I said, I'm missing workouts. But mostly, I miss my time with Phil and his world. I'd almost be okay losing my job. At least then I could have some of my life back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like an excellent place to start next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. See you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Ms. Lippard."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 46th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, May 27, 1998 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. You're looking happy today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am, I am. Life is good. It's Spring in the City; my job is easy; my friends are...uh, friendly; my brother is happy and prosperous. The foundation is getting started; my work at the Arts Alliance is moving along; and I think the Recreation Alliance may actually get off the ground. I might not be able to open it until this winter, but by next summer, I think some school kids will have a place to go that encourages learning and self-esteem rather than boredom and crime. I met a school board member, and he seemed receptive to the idea. So we might get the city school system's backing. That would really put the rockets under the project."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That all sounds very exciting."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It is, I am excited. And I'm planning a vacation as soon as the budget is finalized. The budget looks wonderful, too, mostly thanks to the Mole."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Where will you go on vacation?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um...Alaska."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not sure you do. I've always wanted to see Alaska, it's the last great wilderness. And the middle of summer is the perfect time. And it's nice and far away from here physically, emotionally, and culturally. It's very remote, very good for thinking and getting things in perspective."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you're not going to look for your father while you're there?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh...well, not really. Sort of. I do have the name of a town from his letters, and I plan to visit there. I'm curious about what happened to him, what drew him so far from the life he knew. That's natural, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I suppose so."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And, of course, I'll try to learn something about him while I'm there. If he's still there, fine, we'll meet. But I doubt he will be. There's a couple of J. Lippards in Alaska, but none near Malbae."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've found some men with your father's name?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. It's easy on the web. I was just playing around one night and came up with a few listings. I've never been really sure if I wanted to contact them and find out for sure. I was afraid of what I might learn, I guess. But I figure, since I'm going anyway, I may as well visit his town while I'm in the neighborhood."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Will you be in the neighborhood? Alaska's a big place."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Anything is accessible if you have the money. I'll hire a charter or hitch a ride with a bush pilot. I'm going to be going all over anyway, seeing all the natural wonders on the regular tourist routes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What will you do if you find him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll say hello, tell him what I've been doing, get acquainted. I'm not afraid. He'll like me, I'm sure of that. But I don't feel like I need his approval. I just hope he's not a jerk or that he doesn't run from me and try to deny his past. That would hurt."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you interested in renewing your relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. It's not that important. If he wants to, fine. But I think it's been too long to expect a real close father-daughter bond. At best, we can be friends. At worst, we can go our separate ways again, hopefully with no hard feelings. But I don't think I'll run into him at all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Intuition, I guess. I'm sure he's moved on. He might easily be dead, even. If I run into a clear trail, I'll follow it. But I suspect I'll find he left years ago and no one knows exactly where, if I find anything at all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Are you taking anyone with you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There are a few people I know who would love to experience Alaska. I thought about asking Jake; it's right up his alley. But I don't think I'd be up for all the exciting things he'd want to do, and I don't feel compelled to bankroll his recreation anymore. However, I do want to go camping in the wilderness, and he's great at that. I don't want to do that without an experienced guide."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's wise."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I really want to go with someone I love and communicate with, and with someone who can appreciate the majesty of it all. So I'm going to ask..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Phil?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Of course! We'll pack up his studio and take it in a duffel bag. He's perfect for Alaska."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure he'll have a great time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm sure he will."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I hope you'll be okay with whatever you find out about your father. Be sure to bring my number with you, okay? I'll be here if you want to talk."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks, I will. But don't expect a call. I'm a big girl now; I think I can handle the world on my own. You've taught me well, doyen. I'll send you a postcard, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. I didn't tell you about the wedding."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, yes, Larraine and Mark. How was that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got them season tickets to the symphony--out of sight of my seats, of course. And it turned out to be the perfect thing. They're a much classier couple than I gave them credit for."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you were impressed?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I guess truly high class people don't snub their noses at anyone. It's a lesson I suppose I should take to heart."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The whole thing was so impressive and comfortable that I stayed much longer than I originally planned. It was a good thing, too, because I got to see all the festivities."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds very sweet. Did you talk with Larraine at all?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We chatted a little, it was nothing big. You have to congratulate the bride and groom at their wedding. She did seem genuinely glad to see me, but you never can tell with Larraine. I guess I still don't trust her much."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can understand that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I met Alex's boyfriend, Luke. Oh, my God! I know the word \"hunk\" is pass��, but it's the only thing that applies. I was spellbound. He's the kind of man who, when he walks by, you just have to stop and look. Do you remember the Coke commercial where these women in an office building stop every day to ogle a construction worker across the street?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I remember that one."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's what I was doing. Alex immediately berated me, took on this big \"my man\" persona. And it was my turn to be embarrassed. Of course, I wasn't looking too shabby myself, judging from all the attention and proposals I got."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So Alex was possessive? Did he really think there was a chance you would make a move on Luke?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, no. It was all in fun. But Lloyd eclipsed us all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did he do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He sent this huge, hideous, iron kinetic sculpture. It arrived on a flatbed truck about an hour into the reception. I guess he wanted to make a grand entrance, though I never saw him at all. Oh, the thing was awful! I have no idea what they're going to do with it. When I left, it was still sitting on the sidewalk, just creaking and moving in the wind and generally looking menacing. Sometimes, I think that man has no connection with reality."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Everyone has their own taste."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No one has that taste."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you had a good time?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I did. And I gained a new respect for Larraine and a new insight into her and Alex. I'm glad I went."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. Our time is running short; is there anything else you wanted to bring up?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, there's not. Nothing at all, really. Um, I mean...I think I'm through."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Through? With therapy?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. We've discussed this before. I know there are some things you'd like to cover, but they don't seem pressing to me. I really can't imagine what I'd talk about if I came back. I feel pretty good about things. I don't have any internal conflicts. My life is wonderful. Congratulations, Doctor, another cure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes...well, thank you, Katherine. So are you calling an end to our sessions?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think that's best."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, okay. I'm glad I could be of service. My door is always open to you, Katherine. Feel free to call any time you want to talk, I'll be available. In fact, I'd like to hear from you once in a while to find out how you're doing."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, it's a deal. And you'll definitely get that postcard from Alaska."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll look forward to it. Take care, Katherine. It's been quite a year."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It has, hasn't it? You take care of yourself, too, Doctor. Okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you, I will. Goodbye, Katherine. I hope you find what you're looking for in Alaska."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 6th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, May 28, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Ms. Lippard."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis. Sorry I'm late. It took longer at the printers than I thought."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you late?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am by my watch."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's not that important. I don't see your briefcase today. How's the project going?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's done. I dropped off the materials for the presentation at the printers, and they should be ready Friday, but the project is done."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem more relaxed."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am. I had another conversation with you Monday...or was it Friday? Whatever. I was getting really discouraged that I couldn't make the numbers work, so I imagined talking to you about it. I really admire your reason and perspective."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh? What did I say?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You reminded me that the numbers are what they are. That I'd done everything I could with what I had to work with. You said that even though I'd done all the work, it wasn't really my responsibility. You pointed out the possibility that if the board wasn't happy with my work, they might actually blame Frank for putting an underling in charge of such an important project."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a good point. If Frank really is trying to distance himself from this, it could backfire on him."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You also reminded me that I said I wouldn't really mind losing this job."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, we were going to talk more about that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll get to that, but there was something else. I talked to Frank about leaving me alone with this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did that go?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too bad, actually. I told him how I felt left out in the cold with work I had never done before. And he apologized for not giving me the support I needed. He said he would have, if I had asked. I have to admit, I pretty much suffered in silence. It's not like me to ask for help--I've got to do it all myself. Frank started to talk about how hectic the week had been for him. Apparently, there was some kind of family trouble at his son's graduation. Or his daughter's. You know, by the picture on his desk, I thought he had two kids, but he mentioned three names. I didn't understand much of it. It isn't like Frank to talk about his home life much. As soon as he realized what he was doing, he clammed up. Something must really be bugging him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So that's why he's been absent so much?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess so. But the upshot of the whole thing was that he thought I was ready to handle this. He said he was confident in me. He knew it was a tough job, but he thought I was up to it. So we went over everything in depth, and he said he was impressed. Frank doesn't pass out a lot of compliments, but he seemed really sincere. So that made me feel good. I told him since he was the CFO that his ass was really the one on the line here, and he assured me that no asses were on the line. He thinks if we present the financial picture as honestly as possible--not sugar coat it at all--then it'll all be on Major. And the board won't let us hang. They've heard Major's shit before, and Frank thinks they're ready to hold him accountable. Just him. So I feel pretty good. I'm covered and Frank's covered, as long as we present an honest account."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you don't think you were being set up as a scapegoat?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not any more. I think Frank was just distracted, and he really thinks I did a good job. You know, I'm glad to find this out. I was going to lose a lot of respect for Frank, if he was setting me up--it's not his style. He takes responsibility. In fact, instead of my losing respect for him, I think he gained some for me. I feel even more secure in my position now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. So that stress is relieved."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Almost. There's still the board meeting, but we're going to rehearse Saturday. And Frank's decided to be there, so we can present a united front."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure you'll do fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. I think so, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So your job is safe."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. But I still might quit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I don't know. You know, I don't get it. Here I am a successful business woman. I've got an MBA. I'm the right hand to the Chief Financial Officer of a Fortune 1000 company. I have a great condo overlooking the Bay in one of the finest cities in the United States. I'm about to trade my fairly new Lexus for a brand new Jaguar. I could live pretty well on half my income, and I'm a hell of an investor--I could retire in ten years and not change my standard of living a bit. The only thing I don't have is a family, and I don't really want that--most of the men who are in my league I find boring. So I have all the things I'm supposed to have. By all measures, I'm a success. But what good does it do me? I have everything I've ever strived for. I've achieved all my goals. But I'm...empty. Is this all there is?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Every measure of success that you've used is career-related. You've talked about the job, and retiring, and the things you've bought. What about your personal life? I remember you saying something about relaxing at home and keeping your work out of your personal life."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe I exaggerated. I really don't have much personal life. Except for Phil, of course."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've never really told me who Phil is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm, I guess not. Okay. Philip--that's with one\"l\"--Andrew Lippard is my brother. Daddy called him PAL until Phil got old enough to tell him he didn't like it. He's three years younger than me, a college dropout, and an artist. He moved here from Charleston three years ago, and I promptly followed. Phil can barely take care of himself. He wouldn't have made it here at all, if I hadn't helped him out. Sometimes I still pay his rent, though he hates that. But he knows I don't care about the money, and I've never held it against him. He loves me like mad. I feel the same way, I guess. There's nothing we wouldn't do for each other. I used to take care of him when we were kids--walk him home from the bus, help him with his homework--he always had trouble with school--watch him till Mom came home. Now he worries about me. And I think that's cute. He listens when I'm feeling bad, tries to get me to go out sometimes. It was Phil who got me to come here in the first place, and then to call you back when you kicked me out. God, he acted like an asshole then! That may be the only time we've ever really screamed at each other. I think he was willing to let me hate him for the rest of my life, if that's what it took to get me into therapy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a big risk for him to take. He must love you very much."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Yeah, wow. And you know what? It's just me. He doesn't even like the work I do, or the professional world I do it in. All that doesn't matter to him. It's me he loves, not what I do. How did he get to be so wise? When did he become the smarter one?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That would be an interesting thing to talk about."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, it would. You know what else would be interesting? How is it that he's so damned happy? Here I am with everything I ever wanted, and I'm miserable. Empty. And here he is living on his art, starving half the time, plugging the holes in his walls with newspaper--you know, on bad days it actually gets foggy inside his loft?--and yet he's living it up! I've seen him actually lose weight when he can't sell a painting. But even then, he's still smiling and carefree. As long as we're talking about things, let's talk about that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like a good idea. But I don't think we have enough time left to get into it right now. Shall we call it a day?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, that makes sense. So we'll start next week with rich and miserable versus poor and ecstatic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. And good luck with the presentation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. And thanks for being there for me, even when you're just in my head. This has become very important to me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad I can help. But you're really doing all the work."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're a special man, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you, Ms. Lippard. Good night."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good night."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 7th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, June 11, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis. Are you feeling better?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good afternoon, Ms. Lippard. Much better, thank you. You certainly look radiant today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You like it? I don't know what got into me. Suddenly, I felt like being nice to myself, so I went shopping. I'm not one of those women who shop for sport. Normally, I know what I want, go find it, and get out. But yesterday, I just felt whimsical, so I went to Saks Fifth Avenue and there this was, right up front! Total impulse. It's not like me to just up and buy the first thing that catches my eye. And this really is colorful for me. The sales girl said it brings out the green in my eyes. What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Now that you mention it, yes. I do see more green in your eyes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm so glad. I've always thought there was green there, but most people just see a kind of grayish-brown. I'm made up of \"just-barelys\"--I just barely have an acceptable figure; there's just barely some red in my hair and just barely some green in my eyes. I can just barely relate to other women. And I can just barely carry on a relationship with a man...for a little while."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But there are things you excel at."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh yes, I'm a pretty good business woman. I can balance the books and make a little money into a lot just by thinking and planning. But that's not enough anymore. We talked about this last time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, you expressed a lack of satisfaction with the tangible results of your career."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not sure satisfaction is exactly right. I think fulfillment would be more what I mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You feel that achieving your position of wealth and status should have made you fulfilled?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I guess I should fill you in. The board meeting went well, better than I expected, actually. Frank and I rehearsed on Saturday before. We spent all day on it and I felt pretty good about it. So as soon as I got through the initial nervousness, I made a great presentation. Of course Major didn't like it--it painted a pretty grim picture. I know that as a stockholder, I'd have to vote against it. So he attacked on several fronts, just like Frank said he would. Frank is pretty savvy. He anticipated many things that Major would say, right down to the wording. So we had answers ready for him, but he's very convincing, very...charismatic. You know, I wonder..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Major was so incredibly animated. He couldn't sit still. He talked really fast. And he was sniffling the whole time. I've never seen anyone on cocaine, except on TV. What does it look like?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you sure that's relevant right now, Ms. Lippard? Why don't we concentrate on what's going on with you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, okay. So I held my own against Major, with Frank stepping in only once or twice. I think I looked pretty good to the board. In fact, I know I looked good to at least one of them--Walter Montgomery asked me out afterward."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds interesting. Are you going?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No...jeez! He's not even divorced yet, just separated a few months. Besides, he's just another money and power chasing businessman. I've been out with his type before. He'll take me to a swank restaurant where the waiters have phony accents, make a big deal out of selecting the wine, then try to impress me with who he knows and how much he makes. Then, I'm supposed to swoon. And pretty soon, we'll have a weekend in the Wine Country and I'll be his latest prize. Only the truth will be that I'll be bored with him, because money and status is all he is. There's no substance."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That didn't sound good. What do you mean, uh huh?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, I was just thinking how well that goes with what you just finished saying about how your own money and status don't satisfy you any more."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It does, doesn't it? Oh status! I haven't told you the best part. Last Tuesday, Frank took me out to lunch, and I finally found out the real reason he made me responsible for this whole project."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And that is?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's grooming me for his position. He plans to retire soon, probably by Thanksgiving or Christmas, and he wants me to take over as CFO. He said this project and presentation were the perfect way to prove I could do it. Plus, it gave him more time to spend with his family, which he says he's been neglecting basically all his life in favor of his career."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And how do you feel about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I kind of resent being fooled like that. I wish he had told me this when he gave me the assignment. That would have made things easier for me. But I guess if it didn't work out, he never would have told me so I wouldn't have been disappointed. Or maybe he would have decided not to retire after all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you tell him about your resentment?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I didn't think it would do any good. Besides, the end justified the means. If I couldn't handle the job, I'd rather not have known that I blew my chance to take over."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. How do you feel about your impending promotion?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Pretty good, I guess. I mean, it's what I've been working for my whole life. Top of the heap, right? Board meetings, setting my own hours, lots of money, my name on the letterhead. I've never wanted to own a company, or even run one. I like being the one who can make things work. And business is about finance--the Chief Financial Officer is the one who makes it work."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So come Thanksgiving, you'll have hit the top and achieved all you set out to do."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, and at only 32 years of age. Pretty impressive, huh?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Very impressive. And what comes after that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "God, you're so perceptive! You can always get right to the heart of the matter. You have substance, Doctor Balis. I need to meet a man like you. You're intelligent and educated--those are prerequisites--but you're also thoughtful, caring, and perceptive. You can talk about more than just spreadsheets and next quarter's earnings."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you, Ms. Lippard. I'm not sure that I could talk at all about spreadsheets and next quarter's earnings, though. It does sound to me like you're interested in meeting people outside of your own professional circle. San Francisco is an excellent place to meet a wide variety of people. I get the feeling you've...Ms. Lippard?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you still here?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I'm sorry. Daydreaming. What was the question?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I was just saying that San Francisco is a good city in which to meet a variety of people. I find it to be an eclectic and exciting culture."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Really? I haven't seen much of that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What have you seen? What do you do with your free time?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I work out a lot. And I keep pretty busy around the house."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that all? Housework, exercise, and the office? Do you go out at all?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm a patron of the symphony. I see a play once in a while. Plus, I go to all of Philip's shows. I've even bought some of his stuff."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're describing a very limited social life, Ms. Lippard. Do you have any friends outside of work and your brother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh! I don't have any friends inside of work! I don't think it's appropriate to fraternize with subordinates. And my peers, as I've said, are boring to me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Let's think about this. You won't or don't want to associate with people at work. You don't associate with people outside of work. You have very little extracurricular activities, and those that you do have are fairly solitary. What does this say to you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That I need to get a life?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not exactly how I'd have put it, but essentially correct. I suspect that a large part of the emptiness you feel is because you're only experiencing half of life. You're very successful in business--\"top of the heap,\" as you put it. But you're not satisfied with that alone. It's not enough for you anymore."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "True."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe you can find some satisfaction in your personal life. This, in fact, is where most people find it. The majority of the working world just works to bring home a paycheck. Then they raise a family, go to parties, take vacations. They socialize, they have hobbies, and that brings them fulfillment. You're missing out on all of that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. That could be. What should I do?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Get out more. Meet people."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Who?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "People who share common interests. Clubs are very good for bringing like-minded people together. Do you go to parties and receptions for patrons of the symphony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I thought it'd just be a bunch of stuffed shirts."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You might be surprised. But if you don't like it, you can always leave, find something else to do."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's true. You know, Phil's always trying to get me to go to gallery openings and poetry slams and stuff with him. Maybe I should."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds good. But try to mingle, don't just stay with Phil. Experience the culture. The art world has some pretty interesting people."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It has some real flakes, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly. But that's part of the adventure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Adventure, yeah. I'll have an adventure. You know, I'm going to call Phil tonight. I'm going to have a life, Doctor Balis!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you. I'll be eager to hear about it next week. Just be careful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Careful is my middle name. You should be urging me to take chances, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well...okay. See you next week, Ms. Katherine Careful Lippard."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 8th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, June 18, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHi!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello. That's a new look for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You went to work like that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not really. Truth is I took the day off. I was out late last night so I just told the office I wouldn't be in today."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. I've been out all day on business before, and so has Frank. It's not that unusual. Besides, I've got that office running like a well-tuned Jaguar. If there's no meetings scheduled or anything like that, they can pretty well do it without me for a day or two. And I can log on from home for the news and quotes and such. It's good to be the boss...or, for the time being, the vice-boss. Must be nice running your own business like you do, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It can be, but it has it's headaches. You were out late last night?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, went to a poetry slam! With a name like \"slam,\" I expected some kind of party or at least something with energy--shouting or something. But this was just a coffee house with a microphone. People would just get up and read their stuff. I was most impressed with the ones who could recite from memory. Like Jake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jake. Oh man, Doctor Balis, this is incredible. I didn't think a man could be like this. Well, at least not a man I could date. Phil's like this, of course. And you're kind of neat, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean, \"like this?\" Maybe you should start at the beginning."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, yeah. I called Phil last Wednesday, like I said I would. He happened to have several pieces in a show that opened Saturday at...oh, I forget which gallery. He invited me to come along and I gladly accepted. I was being careful to move around, trying to get into the culture like you said. Phil got me into a few conversations, but nothing much was happening. Then, while I was admiring this huge abstract acrylic that took Phil over two months to finish, I hear a soft, strong voice speak to me. I looked and here was this well-built man with a goatee and an earring. He was staring at the painting but talking to me. He wasn't hitting on me or condescending to me like I'm some business flunky who can't understand art. And he wasn't all high-brow about it either--just matter-of-fact, like this was perfectly natural."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds like it was for him. Maybe he's as comfortable in an art gallery as you are in a business meeting."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Right on the money again! He works there. He's the assistant manager. But he never tried to sell me the piece. We just talked. I couldn't believe what I was hearing! He didn't talk about materials, or price, or even color and composition. It was about feelings, the passion conveyed in the piece. That was a very emotional painting, and he caught it all. Phil and I talked about the piece several times while he was working on it. So I knew both what I saw and what he was trying to say. Jake read it like a book. I was amazed. We parted after about ten minutes, but I couldn't keep my eyes off him the whole afternoon. He caught me looking at him a few times and just smiled back like we were old friends. Finally, Jake came over to congratulate Phil on the great response his work was getting and found out I was Phil's sister."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did he react to that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He said that he should have known. Phil and I don't look much alike, and we're about as far apart on the cultural spectrum as you can get. But Jake said he could feel the similarity in the way we thought. Interesting. I've never had anyone feel my thoughts before."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds like an interesting afternoon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It gets better. He invited us to this poetry slam Tuesday. We went and got there just in time for Jake's first poem. He got up three times, one poem each time, but I only remember a little of it. The first one started with something like \"Darkness envelops me; We embrace as old friends; familiar lovers.\" It was something like that. After that, I just got caught up in listening to his voice--such a deep voice from such a small man. Well, he's not small, but his voice is much deeper than you'd think by looking at him. And so smooth, so melodic. And, well, sexy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you really? I didn't mean that I wanted to sleep with him just because of his voice. Just that it was...the way he spoke was so...oh, I don't know. Alluring? Attractive?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. What happened then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he saw us and came over for a while. But he was with a group and couldn't stay the whole time. I felt like an idiot. All I could do was stare at his eyes through the haze and complement him. I was fawning. Halfway through his second poem, I noticed Phil staring at me, this big grin on his face. I asked him why, and he said he was glad I was enjoying myself. But I think he was amused by my reaction to Jake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe. Maybe he was pleased, too. Did anything else happen with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, just that he asked me out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And we're going out Saturday morning."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to hear that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So you approve?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly. This sounds like just the sort of adventure you were looking for. I'm very pleased at how well you handled your first trip out of the corporate culture. You mingled, you enjoyed yourself, you took some chances. And it's nice that you met a man who doesn't bore you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I'm excited. I'm all giddy. That's really why I didn't go to work today--I was just too thrilled to concentrate. I couldn't get into the corporate persona. Do you think this might interfere with my work?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I guess not. I'm pretty much settled down now. It's just that it's so new, so unexpected."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You described to me before how you seem to feel unnerved by the unexpected sometimes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not this time. It's...well, I'm doing this, see? It's not being done to me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You feel like you're in control of the situation?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, of course. Hey, I'm giddy and all, but that doesn't mean I've lost my mind. I'm not going to let my work be affected by my personal life. I could afford the day off today, but I don't plan on making it a habit. And I'm not the kind of woman to be led around by a man. I thought you'd know that by now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, yes I do. But I also know how easy it is to get carried away by a new and exciting experience."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, you tricky devil. You managed to get in one of those warnings about getting too excited!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's part of my job here, Ms. Lippard."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And that's another thing. I'm not Ms. Lippard anymore, at least not when I'm in here. That's the corporate maven. I'm working on my personal life here, so can you call me Katherine?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay, that's fair. Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Can I call you Charles? Or is it Charlie?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think we'd better stick with Doctor Balis. You're not at work here, but I am."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh. All right. So we have some time left. What else should we talk about?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, let's see. Work is okay, life is getting to be fun. Oh, my brother is separated again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Phil? I didn't think he was married."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I'm sorry, he's not. My older brother, Joey. He's a lawyer back in Columbia. He works long hours trying to make partner. He drinks. And he cheats on his wife. Every once in a while, she gets fed up and leaves him, but she always comes back. She was born to be married--she can't stay away from the mansion, the country club, the martinis on the yacht with all the society wonks and their phony Harvard accents. And Joey can't make partner without the trophy wife and 2.5 adorable children in private school. So he cleans up his act for a while and begs her back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is this a pattern?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yes. This is at least the third time she's left. And I'll bet the farm, it turns out the same way. \"Bet the farm.\" I don't think I've ever said that before."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've never talked about any of your family other than Phil. Are you close to Joey?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. We can talk about finance, a little. But he's such a fake--pursuing the American dream, shaping his personal life and that of his wife and kids to get what he wants. Besides, he's always been distant. I get the feeling he always resented me for being born."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He was the oldest and an only child until you came along?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Exactly. Then when Dad left, he decided to be the man of the house. He got all authoritative and bossy. So I just took care of Phil and tried to ignore Joey."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about your mother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She worked all the time. We kind of had to work out the hierarchy for ourselves. Okay. Well, I guess I should go."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We can take the time if you want to get into this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, that's enough for one day. See you next time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Ms. Lipp...excuse me, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. You too."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 9th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, June 25, 1997 at 4:00 p.m.\nHello, Ms. Lippard, come in. Sorry to keep you waiting. Oh, I'm sorry--Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So how was your date?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Wonderful! I couldn't believe it, Jake is like no one I've ever met before. He's charming, and sweet, and...well, natural. You know, I'm so used to the stuffy business types, all educated and formal--with a tie, a candlelight dinner, and a Lincoln Town Car. This is a real change. And damnit, Doctor, I like it!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you had a good time. Want to tell me about it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. He called early to tell me to dress warm. I didn't understand that--it being June and all. But he was mysterious about it, and I decided to play along. Well, he showed up on a motorcycle! Oh, wow, what a blast! And at sixty miles an hour, even in eighty degree weather, it was cold. But it was wonderful! The road just right there a few feet away. Leaning into the turns. The roar of the engine...exhilarating."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've never been on a motorcycle before?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I haven't. I want to go again, soon."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Something wrong with that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, motorcycles can be dangerous, particularly with no experience. He might have asked you first, to be sure you were comfortable with that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, Jake's an excellent driver. And he insisted I wear a helmet, although he didn't. He said it dulls his senses."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And he has a stereo on it. On the highway, he was singing along. Some group...birds? Crows? Yeah, something about crows. Many Crows? I caught parts of it--heavy, deep thinking stuff, just what I'd expect from him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Where did you go?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He said he was taking me to the mud flats. I was thinking great, a swamp or something. But it was nice--trees, open spaces, breezes. We had a picnic. It's a big bike--he just kept taking stuff out of the saddlebags, wine, fruit, French bread, cheese, pat��. It was really romantic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Gold Wing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Excuse me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The motorcycle, was it a Honda Gold Wing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, no. I've seen those--real luxury. This was more serious than that. Loud and...um, authoritative. More like a real motorcycle--more...um, pure. No windshield, exposed engine--that sort of thing. It's a Yamaha, 1300 something. Something 1300. Whatever. Counting Crows!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sorry?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The tape he was listening to. The group was called Counting Crows."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh. So you enjoyed the picnic?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yes. Jake is...well, we talked about everything. Child-rearing, although neither of us has kids, politics, science, philosophy. The weather. Everything but finance. He wouldn't recite any poetry for me, though. He says poetry is nighttime stuff. We were there for hours, talking, walking around; we even played frisbee for a while. But..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he never laughed. I was having a great time and several things struck me funny, particularly when we were chasing that frisbee around on the wind. I laughed a lot, it felt great. But Jake didn't laugh. He smiled sometimes, but it's like he's so serious. No, that's not right. He takes things seriously. I think he was having fun, but it was as if...I don't know. Like there's too much on his mind for the laughter to get through. Am I making sense?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I get the idea."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I mean he's real smart, and he knows a lot, and he thinks a lot. Maybe that's it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe he was just reserved, nervous about making a good impression."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I get the feeling Jake is never nervous. He has this incredible poise about him--great inner strength, and confidence. I think it's something else."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um hmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Something more?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I'm through with Jake. Shall we move on?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I though you might have some ideas."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Actually, I do. You talked a little about your family background last week. Would you like to expand on that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Some basic history first?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That would be fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. There's Joey, named for my dad, Joseph...um, Richard Lippard. Joey's 35. He's a senior associate at Cheatum, Craven & Swine in Columbia..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Cheatum, Craven & Swine? Is that really the name of the firm?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, that's just what I call them. It's really...uh, Cheatham, Calvin, something-or-other. I've just always called them that. I don't even remember the real names."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Sorry I interrupted you, that just sounded odd. Please go on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I already told you about his marriage and kids. He has a boy, Jeffrey, 8, and a girl, Lynn, 6. They're in the best private school in the midlands, and they go to camp in the summer. I'll have to say, though, Joey does seem to really love the kids. Then there's my mom, also in Columbia. That's her home town. All her family is there. We moved there when Daddy left. And we all went to USC--that's South Carolina, not Southern Cal. Joey majored in Political Science and then law school. I majored in Accounting, then a CPA, then the MBA from Harvard. I told you how I did that, didn't I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, you did."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Then Phil never managed to declare a major, just took what he wanted for a while, did poorly, and dropped out to become a starving artist. We all worked through school, but Mom somehow came up with a lot of the money. We found out later that she had thousands in mutual funds and treasury notes. All the time after Daddy left, while she was working two and three jobs, she kept us living at the poverty line, while she socked away money for college."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How do you keep doing that? You always know just when to ask the tricky questions."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's part of my training to recognize these opportunities."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess it would be. Well, I feel two ways. I appreciate that she saved all that money, looking out for us so we could go to college and all. But I kind of resent it, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We were so poor. We had subsidized lunches at school. Phil and I wore Joey's clothes years after they went out of style. We ate beans and macaroni & cheese two nights a week. Kids shunned us, and teachers felt sorry for us. And all that time, it turns out Mom was making decent money. We could have had decent things. Doctor Balis, is it wrong of me to resent my mother for doing what she thought was best at the time?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Feelings are not right or wrong, or even good or bad. They just are. Your emotions exist, they're part of you. You can't judge your worth by how you feel."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I'm not sure I agree with that. But let's table that for the moment, shall we? More history."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So we were poor. Then we all went to school, and two of us got post-graduate degrees. Phil was never very interested in school and dropped out. Now, he's poor and aimless, but feels good about it. Joey and I both took the corporate track and are rich and successful, but we're all screwed up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Interesting difference."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Isn't it, though? I keep wondering how that happened. We all grew up the same, had the same opportunities, no one was abused. Then I think, maybe it was Daddy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well...huh. Yeah, what about my father?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've said he left. Was there a divorce?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess you could say that. He abandoned us, that's all. Went off to Alaska to pursue his dream. What do you think of that? Wife and three kids depending on him. Has a good job and good pay. And then one day, he just says nope, don't want a family no more, going to go live in the wilderness and be a bush pilot now. How's that for respectable? How's that for family responsibility?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds like you harbor some resentment there."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, fuck you, Doctor Balis! Why do we always have to get into that? Fuck how I feel. It doesn't matter. Oh, damnit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Here..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't need no damn tissues! Oh! Oh shit, I shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry. Here, I'll get it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. Are you okay now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Yes, I'm sorry. Um...time's about up, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, it's okay to..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, no, no, no, it's not okay. I'm thirty-two years old, and that happened a long time ago, and I should be over it by now. I am not going to get angry, and I am not going to cry. It's over."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Obviously, there's still some strong feelings there."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah...well, I'm tired of it. I'm getting on with my life. I have a good job. And I met a nice man. And...well, that's that. Time's up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you okay to drive?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I'm fine. See? Rock solid."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. See you next week then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Thank you, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm here if you need me, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. Good night."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 10th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, July 2, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine. Come on in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Come in, come in. Sit down. Is everything okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah...um...I mean, I think so. Look, I'm sorry about how I acted last week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, there's no need to apologize. It's all right to get emotional in here, that's part of the therapeutic process. In fact, I think I should commend you for it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't believe that the Katherine Lippard I met two months ago--the corporate maven as you've called her--could have delved that deeply into her feelings. You were closed and controlled then, completely wrapped up in the corporate persona. It's great progress to be able to talk about issues that might be painful and that have a lot of emotions attached to them."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. It may not be as much progress as you think, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Two months ago, I was hanging on by a thread. You saw me...well, remember why I originally came in here?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You lost control when a particular seat at a sushi bar was not available to you. That broke your lunch routine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I got all uncorked about it. But it wasn't an isolated incident. I mean, it was, but...oh, hell. Let me start again. That may have been the only time I really lost my cool about some little thing. But something like that was bound to happen. I was just barely hanging on to my composure most of the time. I've been so close to losing it so many times. I'm...well, it's scary."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And how long had this been going on?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's been building ever since I moved here. I thought it was just being nervous about a new place and a new job, but it got worse instead of better. That's the real reason I came to see you, Doctor. It wasn't the incident at Kansai. I felt like I was losing my mind. Well, at least my composure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. How have you been feeling recently?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you feel like therapy is helping. And I do think that you've shown a lot of progress in a short time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. That's good to hear. So, um...what should we talk about?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Somehow, I knew you were going to say that. You're the doctor here. You have a better idea of where feelings come from. I'm just a CPA."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. We left off last week talking about your father. Would you like to continue with that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And again, I knew you would say that. Okay, but I don't want a repeat of last time. I mean, I know it's okay to get emotional with you, but still it's not comfortable for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I'll ease into it, okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My father was a pilot. He was in the Air Force when I was born, in Charleston. But he quit soon after. My memories start in Charlotte...well, at the end of when we were in Charlotte--about the time we were going to move. I guess I was six or seven. We moved to Atlanta. Daddy got a job flying bigger jets. He worked for Delta. Mom tried to make it sound like a great thing--Daddy'll fly the big planes, we'll have a nice new house, and all that jazz. But I hated the idea. I had just started school. I had my friends in the neighborhood, and I didn't want to move. That makes sense, doesn't it? What six-year-old wants to move away from all her friends?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a common reaction, yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So we moved to Atlanta, and Daddy was gone for days at a time. He used to fly commuters, so he was able to come home every night. Now, he was flying cross-country and spent many nights away from home. Toward the end, he even got some international flights, and we wouldn't see him for almost a week sometimes. So Mom got a job. All the kids were in school and Daddy was away most of the time--she got a job. No big deal, right? Philip and I went to the same school. I walked him to and from school and looked after him from the time school got out until Mom got home. We got close. My friends didn't like my little brother tagging along--they teased him and stuff--but I stood up for him. I wouldn't let them tease him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you've always been close to Philip?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, always. I don't remember any time when we had the normal sibling rivalry thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about your older brother? Joey?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Joey. No, Joey was Mama's little angel--doted on and above it all. That's something I never understood. He was the first born. He was named after my father. But Daddy had little to do with him. They were never really close. Unless...you know, Mom really loved Daddy. I mean,she really adored him. I wonder if Daddy named Joey after himself or if it was Mom's doing?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You could ask your mother."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I could. Do you think it's significant?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't know. But it sounds like you're interested. Tell me more about your family. Were you close to your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about Philip? Did he favor a particular parent?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not that I can recall. Phil was an accident--they hadn't planned on more kids. I guess there was one for each of them, and that was enough. They kind of shared him, as best as I can recall. And of course, I took care of him a lot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. So, we're in Atlanta, Joey's in middle school, Phil and I in elementary school, Daddy's gone a lot of the time, although he gets to spend days in a row at home not flying at all. And Mom's a bank teller--that bugged Daddy to no end. I remember them arguing about it. She said she couldn't take a vacation every time he happened to be home. He wanted her there more, she wanted him home more. I think Mama might have missed Daddy as much as I did when he was gone."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. But he was my Daddy, and I was his little girl. Somehow that was more important to me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's understandable. Children have very little understanding or consideration for other people's feelings and relationships. They're only familiar with their own, and those are the ones they focus on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Okay. And then one day, Mom announces that Daddy's leaving. Except he's not coming back this time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How old were you then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I would have been ten? Eleven? Something like that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Go on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I was upset. I cried. I held on to him. I told him he couldn't leave forever--he had to stay. It was a scene. He took me aside and tried to explain, but I was having none of it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did he tell you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He said he'd been thinking about this a long time, and that it was the right thing to do. Sometimes grown-ups had to make hard decisions, and one day I'd understand. That and all those placating, condescending things adults tell children when they're doing the wrong thing. But I think he really believed it all, I really do. And I know it was hard for him, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you know?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because he cried. That's the only time I ever saw my Daddy cry. You know, I just can't understand it...where are the damn tissues?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. I don't get it, Doctor Balis. If it was so hard for him to leave me, why did he do it? If it hurt him so badly, certainly he must have felt it wasn't right? How could he do it? What was he thinking?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's hard to know. Do you have any contact with him now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I haven't heard from him in years. I remember thinking every time I accomplished something, how proud he'd be, and how much I wanted him there. Graduation, CPA, the time I was in the school play. I even wanted to tell him about my first kiss, and about how much my first love was like him. But, by then, I wasn't even sure if he was dead or alive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Wouldn't you have heard something if he died?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I doubt it. Mom said he just abdicated everything--went off to Alaska penniless and free. No pension, no income, no insurance."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Some people said that it must have taken some real courage to leave every thing like that. Courage, yeah. What kind of courage does it take to abandon your ten-year-old daughter for some crazy dream?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That would be a good place to start next week. Right now, our time is about up."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "God, already? Okay. Boy, this is hard. Does it get worse?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's hard work. But you're doing very well. I'm very impressed by the work you've done so far."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you. I'm okay now. I'll go home, clean my house, and get on with my life. Oh, man. I never even got to tell you about Jake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Something significant?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I just wanted to tell you about our last date. But I guess it can wait."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. See you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good night, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 11th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, July 9, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Just a little scared, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What are you afraid of?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Feelings. Losing it. Last week was really hard. I know you warned me there would be hard times, but I don't think I was ready for that. I've been dreading this all day--going through that again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. You're feeling very powerful emotions, probably ones you're not used to."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not used to? I guess fucking not. Sorry--that was uncalled for. But no, the only thing I've felt for my father since...oh, since high school graduation I guess, is a kind of weak resentment. Maybe a little longing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened at your graduation?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He didn't show up. And no, he didn't say he would--I hadn't heard from him in years already. I just had this magical notion that he would be there. I mean, it was the biggest day of my life to that point, surely he would know that and show up. Show up because he loved me and because he was proud of me. But he didn't. And that's when I knew...oh, here I go again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's okay, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, great. I'm here for five minutes and crying already. See? This is what I was afraid of. I don't want to spend all my time crying over things I can't change. That's getting nowhere."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "On the contrary, it's a very important step. How much crying over your father did you do before you started therapy?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A lot when he left. A couple of months or so."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Then what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then I quit. I thought I'd see him again, and he did send a couple of postcards. He even called two or three times, but I just ended up bawling the whole conversation and so did my mom. I guess he couldn't take that, because he finally stopped. Or else he died."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you believe your father's dead?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I can't. I want my Daddy to be alive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doctor Balis? I'm sorry--this is empty."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Here, there's more."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Oh, man, I'm going to be sitting in a drift of soggy tissues before this is all over. At least you have a good supply, or I'd be dripping all over the furniture."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's okay. Everything is ScotchGuarded."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "ScotchGuarded! Oh, that's great! That's a good one. Oh, man. Thanks, I needed that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you ready to go on?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Almost. Do you have any water or anything?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it's here. I'll get it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I did it! I did it! I got you out from behind the desk! Glory be, the doctor has legs! But you're wearing pants."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did you expect?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, you know, I've heard newscasters don't bother wearing pants, because you never see their legs. You know, you're a nice looking man, Doctor Balis. No flab, good posture. Handsome, boyish face. Nice."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. Here's your water."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, would you like to return to your father some other time?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Would that be okay? I mean, I know I have to do this. And I will, I promise. It's just that...not now, okay? I'm not ready right now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's fine. This is new to you--it's okay to take it slow. Is there something else you'd like to talk about?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, there is. I went out with Jake again. A few times, actually."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And how was that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um...fun. We went to the new sculpture exhibit at the Museum of Modern Art. We talked a lot. He's very calm. Thoughtful...no, that's not the word. I mean he thinks a lot. Intellectual, I guess. But it turns out he's into excitement, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he says he's an adrenaline junkie. He says the motorcycle's only part of that. He goes backwoods hiking, downhill skiing, rock climbing. He wants to take me hang gliding or on an ultralight, whichever I choose. What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think those both sound like very dangerous activities, particularly with no training. I'd be concerned about your safety."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, Jake has a very high rating--just short of instructor. He's certified to have passengers."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I didn't know there was a certification system for those activities."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, there's none, really. Not by law, anyway. But there's a sort of self-governing body that sets rules and standards."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm leaning toward hang gliding. Have you ever been up to Fort Funston, where they launch off the cliffs over the ocean?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I haven't seen that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's sort of near the zoo, on the Great Highway. I've watched them hang glide there. It's quiet, just you and the wind. Close to nature, part of the sky. In fact, Jake recited part of a poem about that. Something about being one with the sky, that sort of thing. See? Jake's not all dark and brooding; he has a lighter side."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't recall saying he was dark and brooding. Is that a concern of yours?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You didn't say that? I guess that was Phil. Well, the no laughing thing. And the poems about night to be recited only at night, you know? But he has fun, too. And he wants me to have fun with him!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel about Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I like him. He's smart. He's...um, adventurous. He's good-looking. He can talk about anything. I could really fall for this man."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about other activities away from Jake? Have you been out on your own any? Or with Phil?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I...well, no come to think of it, I haven't. I've pretty much been going out with Jake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that enough for you? I remember how excited you were about \"getting a life,\" as you put it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, like you said, it's okay to take it slow. I have more life now that I did a few weeks ago. Don't push it, Doctor Balis. I'm enjoying my time with Jake. Isn't that enough for now?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have to answer that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Yes, it is."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. So are things getting physical with Jake? We haven't discussed how you feel about that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We've made out a little, yeah. But Jake's a nice guy, he's not pushing anything. It's like he's not dating me for my body. He's actually said that he's more interested in my mind. But there's a healthy attraction there, too. What do you mean how I feel about that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I just don't know what your attitudes are about sex, that's all."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I'm not a virgin. I don't have anything against sex--I think it's nice. But I think there should be more to a relationship."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a healthy attitude."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I keep coming back to the hang gliding. It really is a dangerous sport, and I'm concerned for your safety. It's not a bad idea to know what you're getting into in any situation. You might consider learning more about it--maybe taking a lesson or two before you go up, even as a passenger."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Your concern is duly noted, Doctor, but I am an adult. I've lived on my own for years and excelled in a world dominated by men. I think I know how to take care of myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Of course you do, Katherine. I didn't mean my concern to be taken as an insult."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know--it's part of your job. But you'll see. I'll come in next week all in one piece. And maybe, I'll be able to talk about my father then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That would be fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, then I'll see you next time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Goodbye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 12th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, July 23, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis. Are you feeling better?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What? Oh, no. I wasn't ill. I had a family emergency. I'm sorry about canceling last week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I'm sorry. Is everything okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It was my dad. He's much better now and is home from the hospital, thanks. But we're not here to talk about me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I guess not. Well, here I am, all in one piece as promised."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you are. Did I see you limping?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, a little. It didn't happen during hang gliding, though. We didn't get to go last weekend, the weather wasn't right. So we went last Sunday. Oh, it was incredible! Better than I had imagined. Such freedom! We soared, and swooped, and dived--it was awesome. I don't think I've ever felt so alive. And Jake was so wonderful, smiling more than I've ever seen before. Gone was the dark, somber, deep thinker, and in his place, a free spirit, excited and enjoying life. A girl could almost fall in love, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Almost?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well...so after we landed, I was dancing around, literally jumping for joy, making a fool of myself at the top of this cliff, when I came down wrong on a loose rock and fell. I have the most incredible bruise on my butt. But when we got home, Jake...well, he kissed it and made it better."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, it was so sweet and romantic. We got in, I was limping pretty badly, and he said, \"That really hurts, doesn't it?\" I said it did, and he said, \"Here, maybe I can help.\" He came around behind me, slipped off my shorts, then he got down on one knee and kissed my...um, bruise. And it got better! It really felt better, I didn't just imagine it. I could move more and everything."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So then--and this is the really wonderful part--he slid my pants back on, kissed me sweetly on the lips, and went to make me some tea. It wasn't an excuse to get my pants off, it wasn't about seduction. He just wanted to make me feel better. And it worked."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like you had a good time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yes. Oh my, yes. I've never felt so alive. The sky and the man...the wonderful man who cares so much about me. And the exhilaration...it was magical."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. And that you came back relatively unscathed."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We made love that night."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, first time. That's another wonderful thing about Jake--he never pushed for sex. We've been going out...what, a month now? And he seemed content to wait another month, if that's what it took for me to be comfortable. But Sunday I was. And it was amazing. Stupendous. Words do not begin to describe it. It was the best sex I've ever had, not for being the most exciting or the number and strength of my orgasms--although, I think I set records there, too. We were at it for hours. And it was great because of the feeling behind it. I mean, sex is not always a chore. Sometimes, it can be a lot of fun. But it's always been just something you do--like another recreational activity during a date. But this was different. This was about us, about our wanting to be together. Wow, I didn't know it could be like this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you've never experienced sex as a sharing, as an expression of emotion between two people in love?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How could I? I've never been in love."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you in love with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well that's another question entirely, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How am I suppose to tell? What are the signs? Define it for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Love is an emotion, Katherine. And like any emotion it's very hard to define in concrete terms..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Come on, Balis, you're a psychiatrist. Emotions are your job. You can do better than that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What does it mean to you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I knew you'd say that. Okay, love. Hmm. Love is caring. Closeness. Like his life means more to me than my own. Like I always want to be with him--there's this longing all the time that we're apart. I get this tingly, butterfly sensation when the phone rings and I think it's him. I can tell him anything, he'll keep any secret. I can forgive any little annoyance--the way he flosses twice a day, and how he lets the dishes stack up two sinks full before he washes them. I can't look at him without smiling. I feel so good to be with him. I just want to do everything for him. I want to make him happy any way I can."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel this way about Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, who did you think I was talking about?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So what? Oh. So, am I in love with him? Well, it sounds that way, doesn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it does."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Is that good?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How does it feel to you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. It feels pretty good, actually. Okay, I'm in love with Jake Winter. For the first time in my life, I'm in love. And that's okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. I'm glad you're comfortable with that. I'm happy for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I want to make sure I heard something right. Did you say, \"his life means more to me than my own?\""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. So?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that how you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. I mean, if it came down to one of us having to die, I'd rather it be me. I'd want him to go on living. What's wrong with that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When you put it that way, nothing. I can appreciate these feelings. I was concerned that you might have meant that you couldn't live without him."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. You mean like if we broke up, I'd kill myself?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You understand, I have to be alert to these things."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I know that. Don't worry, Doctor Balis. If Jake dumps me, I promise to call you before I slit my throat. But I don't see that happening."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I certainly hope not."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Me too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I hate to bring up a touchy subject, but are you practicing safe sex?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um...well, not this time. But I have an appointment Friday morning to get a shot. Depo-Provera--very convenient, no side effects. Well, at least less than the pill."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's very good, but pregnancy is not the only danger."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doctor Balis, Jake and I have discussed this. It's not as if this was a total surprise. Neither of us has ever had anything, and it's not like he's been sleeping around indiscriminately."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure you trust him, but you can't be sure about what his former partners have been doing. AIDS can be carried for years before disease develops, and there are other sexually transmitted diseases that can hibernate symptom-free for some time. Syphilis, for instance. I'd to encourage you both to get tested."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I'll think about that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe you could discuss it with Jake."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe I could."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When are you planning to see him again?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tonight. We're going to the symphony. I'll get to see him in a tie. But we can't make love again like that--I'll never be able to get to work tomorrow. Besides, I want to get the shot first."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. But please, think about getting tested. And remember, it's only good if you both go."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, okay, I said I'd consider it, and I will. What you say makes sense."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. We have some time left, is there anything else you'd like to discuss?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You mean like my father? I know we have to get into that again, and I actually planned on doing it today. But we got a little sidetracked, didn't we? I don't think that there's enough time left to really go there right now. I feel like this is a pretty deep issue."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It is. Would you like to call it a day then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. I can use the extra time. And we'll get back to my father, I promise."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Next time. Plan on it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. See you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good. Good night, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 13th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, July 30, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Well..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, this is about Jake, and I came to talk about my father."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, we can talk about anything you want to."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, this is small anyway."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Go ahead."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We went to the symphony--me and Jake and Phil and...um, I don't remember her name, some knockout Phil brought. He has this way, I don't know what it is. He's a perfectly ordinary looking guy--a little skinny, poor most of the time, but he attracts these absolutely gorgeous women. Rich, attractive, smart, educated..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds a little like you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm, I guess so. Thanks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You talk about your brother in glowing terms--you can see how appealing he is. These other women can, too."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I guess so. So anyway, afterwards, when we were alone, I told Jake I loved him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did that go over?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Nothing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He had no response at all?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he looked at me seriously and said, \"Are you sure?\" I said yes, and he smiled kind of sweet and then kissed me. We made out some, and then he went home. We didn't make love--I had to go to work the next day. He's not all about sex."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you've said. How do you feel about that response?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I kind of thought he'd say it back. That would have been great, you know? Then we'd both be in love, and comfortable, and...live happily ever after, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that what you want?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I don't know. I mean, I've never really seen myself married, and I'm not good with kids."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does being in love mean having a husband and family?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess so. Doesn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What else is it for?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe it's not for anything. Maybe feelings can just be feelings, for their own sake."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I know I don't want to end up like my mother."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mama was in love with Daddy. I mean really, seriously in love. She couldn't get enough of him. Remember I told you about the argument when she said she couldn't stand for him to be away so much? I guess that's something we have in common--neither of us could get enough of Daddy. I even resented the time she got to spend alone with him. Hmm...I wonder if she felt the same way about me? If she was jealous of the attention Daddy paid me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That could be."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. So anyway, when Daddy left, my mother was just crushed. She was in love with him, and life was perfect. And then, he disappeared. I don't want that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's understandable. Are you afraid that will happen with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's not like we're married."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Did you just say that it's okay to be in love and not do anything with it, not take it any farther? That I can just be in love and that's it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Basically. What do you mean, \"take it farther?\""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, promises. Commitment. I guess it's too soon to be talking about marriage, but maybe living together."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, it may be too soon for any of that. You've only known him what? Six weeks? Love can be a fleeting thing; you should give it some time to solidify, to get to know each other better. Plus, you don't really know how Jake feels about this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's true. He never did respond."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Right. Give it some time. I know you're excited about the recent changes in your life, but it can't happen all at once."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess not. But damn it, I've been alone for twenty years. I want it to happen now! Oh, well..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Jake is the first man you've dated seriously, right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, no. There was Andrew in Charlotte. He was a pilot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Were you in love?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. That didn't last too long, a couple of months."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you dated Andrew for a few months, years ago, and now Jake for even less time. You really don't have much experience, Katherine. I think you should take it slow, see how things develop. You may find you're not compatible."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess so. So you're saying I should just date Jake for awhile, not push anything, and see what turns up?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds reasonable."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you still want to talk about your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I promised, didn't I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You did, and I think it's important. You mentioned how your mother felt when your father left. What about you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I covered that already. It destroyed my world. I didn't think I could ever be happy or feel safe, again. And Mama wasn't much help, although she was much stronger about it than I was. Once she pulled herself back together and went back to work, she pretty much gave all her attention to Joey. He became the man of the house, but he was 13? 14? He just got bossy and smart-mouthed, but my mother let him get away with everything and always came to his defense. I heard someone in school call him a mama's boy, and I thought, \"Yeah, that's about right.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So your relationship with your mother changed after your father left?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A little, I guess. I mean, Joey was always her child anyway, just like I was Daddy's. He just became more hers, and I was no one's. She pretty much left Phil and me alone, unless we got in trouble. That's when I started getting so close to Phil; I had no one else and no one was really taking care of him, paying him any attention. I guess Joey was Mama's child and Phil was mine. We had our own little world--our own little code so my mother and Joey wouldn't know what we were talking about. Phil's the only one that calls me Kate, or sometimes Katie, and I was the only one who called him Phil. I don't even know if they knew that. To this day, they still call us Katherine and Philip."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How is your relationship with your mother now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I guess. We speak. I visit sometimes. She has her life, and I have mine. I don't think you could call us close."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is there any tension?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yeah, I guess. I mean, she could have taken care of me. Oh, I guess she did. I mean, she did pay for college and all--that's got to count for something. And Phil...I know he was an accident and all, Mama already had a boy, and Daddy had a girl. But Jeez, if I hadn't fed him, I don't think Phil would have eaten after Daddy left. And now he's the best adjusted of all of us, Mama included. Go figure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you can take some credit for that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh? What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like you were primarily responsible for his emotional upbringing, and you were only a child yourself in the bargain. And it was more than just the emotional support. You were feeding him, getting him to school, helping him with his homework. You must have done a remarkable job."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I guess so. I never looked at it like that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like your mother was content to leave you and Phil to your own devices. You took on the role of a mother for Phil and took that responsibility very seriously. In fact, with what sounds like very little help from your mother, you raised Phil and yourself at the same time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, what choice did she have? She had to work two and three jobs to support her family; there wasn't much time left over."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "She could have chosen to treat all of her children equally, rather than spoiling one and leaving the other two..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Spoiling. I wonder if that's why Joey's the way he is today? But you know what? There was one thing she didn't spoil him about. He wanted to become a pilot, like Daddy. Oh, she was having none of that! She absolutely put her foot down. There wasn't even any argument. I've never seen her treat anyone that way, least of all Joey. To this day she won't even let him take flying lessons."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How can she stop him? He's an adult now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But she's Mama, and he's Mama's Boy. He won't go against her; he won't risk losing her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We didn't get in much about Daddy, did we?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, I think we covered a lot of ground. How your family relationships changed after your father left is very significant. Unfortunately, we're about out of time for today. Shall we pick up here next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Strangely, it feels good to talk about this. I don't feel like I'm really working through anything, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, we're doing the groundwork. We have to find out what the issues are before we can work on resolving them."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And what are the issues?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We can talk about that next week. Good night, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good night, Doctor Balis."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 14th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, August 6, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How are you today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I guess. Major came in twice this week, wanting to look over some spreadsheets and forecasts. I think he may be up to something, but I don't know what. I hope he doesn't have some new scheme to take over IBM or General Motors or something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He seems quite ambitious."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You've met him?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You talked about him and the Apple merger deal quite a bit some weeks ago. And remember, I am the company's therapist--I have other patients from SII."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Very evasive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Would you like to talk more about your work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I'm just a little antsy is all. Frank is doing less and less, and I'm taking more responsibility for the company. It's a slow but smooth transition."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So, I suppose I should get started. Well, Jake still hasn't answered me. Not that I've pressed him on it. He did mention that his parents are divorced, his father twice. And his stepsister--his father's wife's daughter from her first marriage--is also divorced. So among the four people he can call his family, there are five divorces."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Jake is an only child?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you think of his family's history?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It could explain his reluctance to commit. And I read some more of his poetry. Sad. It's all about darkness and tragedy, and how love always comes due in blood."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you talk to him about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he doesn't actually know I've seen it. I read it while he was asleep Saturday night."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh. If you were curious, couldn't you ask him for it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't know I was curious. I couldn't sleep, so I was just poking around and found this notebook. I read one--I knew I shouldn't--but I just kept going. It was fascinating. I knew he was deep and dark sometimes, but this was just amazing. It's so different from the way he acts usually. I mean he has such a zest for life--always on the go, doing things, nothing half way. And he chases excitement--the motorcycle, the bungee jumping, all that stuff. He's not depressed, not like the poems sounded."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Some people can express different aspects of their personalities in different ways. His poetry could just be a release for his darker feelings. And any artwork, poetry included, involves embellishment. While there are probably real feelings behind them, the poems may represent a substantial amplification of those feelings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has this changed the way you feel about Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really. I think I actually have more compassion for him, knowing the pain he's had in his life. I'm looking at him a little differently, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "In what way?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, maybe it's just my perception, but I think he's treating me a little different lately. Since I told him, I mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Since you told him you love him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. He's...I don't know...cockier. Like he's not trying so hard to please me, like he's sure now that I'm attached to him. Maybe I'm just paranoid--I've been used so much as a trophy, like an accessory by men who need a pretty woman on their arm to go with their silk tie and their Rolex. I guess I'm overly sensitive to that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's understandable. Still, don't discount your perceptions. It's good to keep an open mind, and see if this behavior continues."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe he's just settling into the relationship. The real courting is over, and now comes the comfortable part. So he can't admit he loves me, so what? He treats me well, he obviously cares for me a lot. Can't that be enough?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Can it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wonder if you're rationalizing just a bit."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. So let's talk more about my father."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure we're through with Jake yet."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am. I'm going to keep an open mind, see how he treats me, and try to get him to talk more about his family and how he feels about love. Now let's move on."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Enough Jake for today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Here's the tissues."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Then after high school, I thought maybe he'd think I was old enough, but he didn't show up. So I got on with my life. I became a successful businesswoman. Soon I'll have my name on the banner of the up-and-coming computer company of the decade. We've had feature stories this year in Business Week and the Journal, did you know that? But the men who say they love me are jerks, and the men I love all run off to pursue their dreams. Dreams that don't include me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All the men you love?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. Daddy went to Alaska, Andrew to the Coast Guard to do drug interdiction, and Phil to California for his art. Hell, I even subsidized Phil's trip."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you're here with Phil."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, someone had to take care of him. Poor starving artist. Besides, I got this great opportunity at SII."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Those are the reasons you left your job, friends, and family and moved across the country?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, you asshole. No, not really. I followed Philip to California because I was tired of losing people. Okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. It's good that you recognize that and admit it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's pathetic, is what it is."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because I'm no good without a man, be it my father or brother or lover. I can't make it on my own; I have to have a man in my life. Some feminist."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, everyone likes to feel connected, to love, and to be loved. It's not a weakness to want to hold onto your relationships, to want to stay close to people who mean something to you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But it's a strength to be able to function on your own, to be independent."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It is a strength, yes. But is it desirable?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What? Of course it's desirable. Are you saying I shouldn't be able to function on my own?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Excuse me, that didn't come out just right. I agree that you should be able to be alone. Needing to have someone all the time fosters dependence; being able to function independently fosters self-reliance. But I also believe that you can be self-reliant in the context of a loving relationship. You don't have to be alone to be independent."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, so just because I want to have...to be close to someone, doesn't mean I can't take care of myself?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes. It's not a weakness to want other people in your life. It may be unhealthy to be unable to function without another person in your life. Clearly you can function well on your own, and that's good. You make a living, you feed yourself, stay healthy. But what about your emotional well-being? Do you feel incomplete without a relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yeah, I guess. There's an emptiness, a loneliness. I can be content on my own, but I sure do get bored."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you're content when you're not in a relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, mostly."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you happy?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes. I'm lonely. Like there's a piece missing--a hole in my heart or something. I'm okay by myself, but I'd sure rather be with someone else."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's important to be comfortable with yourself so that you don't jump into a relationship just to fill a void."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, if I was comfortable with myself, I wouldn't have come to you in the first place, would I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I suppose not. So you're doing the work you need in order to find that peace."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Lately, I don't feel like I'm making any headway. I remember the feelings I had the first few weeks--everything was coming together. I don't have those any more. I feel like I keep talking about the same things over and over and not getting anywhere. I'm just spinning my wheels."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I hate to bring this up again, but I did mention that there might come a time when you feel this way. In therapy there are ebbs and flows, and sometimes, it even feels like things are regressing instead of making progress. But we're always learning more about you and your issues. Stick with it; I'm confident you'll notice that there'll be progress again soon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I do remember you warning me about this. I didn't want to hear it, as I recall. Thanks. I guess I needed that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll see you next week, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Good night, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 15th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Thursday, August 14, 1997 at 3:00 pm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Come in, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Sorry to change my appointment on such short notice--Major was snooping around again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I can't figure what he wants. He's been in several times in the past few weeks, riling up the staff, going through files, projections, forecasts, balance sheets..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has he given you any explanation?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, and I asked. I told him that if he tells me what he's after, I could help him find it. He just mutters something about an audit. When I pressed him on it, he said he was the goddamn CEO and he would look at any file he wanted to in his own company. Lloyd may be my boss, but I don't appreciate him going behind my back. Not to mention that he's not qualified to audit my books--he's an administrator and idea man, not a number-cruncher. I'm telling you, I'm thinking of auditing him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wonder what he's after. I think I already mentioned that I think he may be looking for money for some new takeover scheme or something. I'm beginning to wonder if he's not already skimming."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Wouldn't you know about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He does have some discretionary funds, and there are some aspects of the company's books I'm not familiar with. I was planning to start a complete audit after Frank announced his retirement anyway--I wanted to get familiar with everything and make a smooth transition. Maybe I'll start early--like Monday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What does Frank think of all this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I haven't seen much of him lately. He's out all this week, which may be why Major picked right now to really get in my shit. But Frank's spending less and less time around, letting me do more of his work. I can tell you, though, we're going to talk about Major just as soon as he gets back. The staff is going nuts, too. I don't know what they think. I suppose we should talk about that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "About what your staff might think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, no, not me and you talk. I meant I should talk with the staff."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh. That sounds like a good idea."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine? You still here?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah...um, sorry. Doctor Balis?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What if I found him?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Found who?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My father."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What if you found your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. What then?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What would you say?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Exactly. Say I hired a detective agency--there's several around town--and gave them all I the information I have about my father, and they found him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Then what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's what I'm asking you. Say I flew up to Alaska--or down to Caracas, or wherever the hell he is--and walked up to him and said, \"Hi, I'm your daughter.\" What would I do then? Hug him? Tell him how I missed him? Ask him why? Tissues?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why don't you keep these where someone can reach them? Surely people cry in here all the time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're right, I should do that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Goddamn it, Doctor Balis, why can't I get over this? I miss my father. Yeah, yeah, we've been through that. I keep running back into this like I'm stuck in a software loop."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe we should shift perspective on this just a little bit--what do you think this says about you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh? I don't follow you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm talking about the issue you have with your father leaving you, and the great amount of feeling that inspires in you. What do you think about yourself as a result of this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Think? Let's see. What does that say about me? I couldn't get him to stay. He said he loved me, and he knew how much I loved him, but he left anyway. Well, that says a couple of things, doesn't it? It says I didn't love him enough. It says I wasn't good enough, that he thought something else would be better than staying with me. I didn't live up to his expectations somehow."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay, let's take these one at a time..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The same thing for Andrew, I guess. He went off to find adventure; clearly, I wasn't adventure enough for him...for either of them. If I was good enough, exciting enough, loving enough, they wouldn't have left me. Did I tell you Jake's taking me parasailing Friday?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, you didn't. Why did you mention that just now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It just popped into my head, I guess. So what?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I just noticed that you talked about a lack of adventure and excitement in your previous relationship, and then immediately you mentioned another exciting adventure you're about to have with Jake."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, Jake's an exciting man, and we've been having a good time together. I'm loosening up, Doctor Balis, getting a life. Isn't that what you said I should do?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it is. And you've made a great deal of progress on that. But I want to point out a trend and see what you think about it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've said that your father left to pursue his dream in far-off and exciting Alaska. Then Andrew left to find adventure. You said that you believe you lost them both because you weren't adventurous enough for them. Right so far?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Now you fall in love with Jake, and Jake likes adventure and excitement, too. So you're engaging in all these exciting and potentially dangerous activities with him. Is that really because you're enjoying life more and want to do these things? Or might it be that you're afraid of being too boring for Jake? That if you fail to be adventurous, another man will leave you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh. Oh, wow. You know, I've never considered that. I have felt pretty apprehensive about some of this. Do you really think I'm...what's the term? Overcompensating? That this new life isn't about me, but about my fear of abandonment?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Boy, if that's true, then it's all just a fake. I'm just a fake. I'm trying to be someone I'm not, just to keep a man. What does that say about me? No, that's your line. I have to answer that, don't I? Okay, it says I'm a pathetic, man-hungry loser who can't stand to be alone. That I'm too weak to deal with rejection and will go to any lengths to hold onto a boyfriend--a boyfriend who may not even love me. Damn."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you're being hard on yourself, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You think? I wonder. I'll tell you what, though. That's not who I want to be. Strong, self-confident, self-sufficient--that's who I want to be. I want to be a woman who doesn't need a man around--a woman who just keeps one while it's convenient, because it's more fun with a man than without one."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I think you're taking this to the extreme in the other direction. You've always struck me as a very strong, self-confidant, and self-sufficient woman. That's not your problem. You want to have a healthy relationship in your life. And in such a relationship, you can't take the other person for granted or keep him around as a matter of convenience. That's not how you would like to be treated, is it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Right. So...now I just have to..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, do you really enjoy all these activities with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, some of them. The hang gliding scared me shitless. Remember I told you how elated I was after we landed? Most of that was just happy to still be alive. I laughed myself silly after I busted my butt--the irony of it. I was just celebrating staying alive and in one piece, and I went and got hurt. But I really do want to parasail. It doesn't seem too dangerous. I don't have to do anything--the boat does all the work. And if anything goes wrong, I'm on a parachute already. I'll just glide down into the water. They don't even make you wear a helmet or anything."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Just remember, you have the right to say no. If Jake invites you to do something that you're not comfortable with, just say no. Suggest something else. Or let him go alone. Maintain your sense of self, Katherine, you don't need to change for any one. If Jake is going to love you, it's better that he loves who you really are, rather than who you think he wants you to be."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're right, of course. How long could I keep up the act, anyway?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Exactly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hey, we did something today, didn't we? I think I made some headway."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think so. And that's our time for today. Can you make Wednesday again next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hope so, unless something comes up again. I'll do my best, anyway."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's fine. See you then."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good night, Doctor Balis. Thank you...well, for what you do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome, Katherine. I'm glad to do it. Goodbye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 16th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, August 27, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis. Sorry I couldn't make it last week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. That's okay, though I'd appreciate as much notice as possible when you have to cancel."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That was as much notice as possible. But I'll keep that in mind. I talked to Frank about Lloyd Major."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He appreciates my concerns but says not to worry. He told me that when Major gets to feeling antsy--like when he has nothing to do or like things aren't working for him--sometimes he picks a department, or two, or three, and tries to exert some control. Frank thinks he's just trying to feel like he has his hands on the reins. What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a theory. Has this changed the way you feel about him, and what he's been doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yes, it has. I see him as less of an ogre and more...pathetic. He has to go around grasping at straws to feel like he's an effective CEO? That makes me think he's not an effective CEO. Though I have to admit we've done very well with him at the helm, and he did drop the Apple deal as soon as it became apparent we couldn't do it properly. I respect that; he could have really pushed things and made it hard on himself and the company, plus he would have lost a lot of points with the board."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And Frank's giving me tips on how to deal with him. There's little tricks you can use to disarm him without him realizing, to let him believe he's in control. Most of it boils down to just kissing his ass, but if that's what it takes to keep him out of my hair and things running smoothly, that's fine with me. Lloyd, Frank, and I are to have lunch on Friday. I can practice some of these things then. I'm looking forward to it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds like you'll be regaining a little control yourself."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I will. Feels good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, are you setting yourself up in an adversarial position with Lloyd Major?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Adversarial? No, quite the contrary. I'm letting him know I'm not his adversary, that I'm on his side, while keeping him off my back. If you have to hang a label on it, I guess my position would be a little defensive--I'm keeping control--autonomous control--of my department and keeping him at a distance. But no! God, Major is the last person I need in this company as an enemy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's good to hear. How is the retirement going?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So far, I'm still the only one who knows. I think Frank may bring that up at lunch this Friday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good luck with that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Anything else on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, that's it. See you next week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're in a good mood today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why not? I'm getting it together, Doctor Balis. I'm getting control of my department, learning to properly play the politics so I can be an effective executive officer. I'm gaining control of my little neuroses--we haven't talked about that in a while, have we? I quit smoking--two a day wasn't an addiction, just a habit. In fact, I don't even watch both news shows any more. My routines have become so loose as to be almost normal now. I still make detailed lists--shopping lists, to-do lists--but I don't have to do the shopping only on Saturday morning. The bathroom gets cleaned when I get around to it, not Wednesdays at seven. I've even made a point of sitting in every seat at the sushi bar. Though...uh, I did notice that I had to try them sequentially."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well that sounds like quite a change, Katherine. Why the big difference?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think it's control. We identified control as my big issue, and I think I just feel more in control now. The job is coming together, I have a good boyfriend, things are smooth with Phil, and I'm getting my head together. You know, I think that's the big difference. All those things don't seem so important now that I realize that what I'm doing here is what's important. Did that make sense?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, let me think. The routines were to try to anchor you in a chaotic world--to give you a sense of control. But now you can see that you're making progress in therapy--that you can gain more control through the understandings that you're coming to about yourself in here. So you don't need the routines as much. Does that sound about right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Exactly! So that's better. You know, you said something about not losing my sense of self in my relationship--not becoming someone else to keep Jake around. I thought about that and I noticed that I've been neglecting Phil in favor of Jake. I miss Phil. He didn't mind, of course. He was just happy that I was happy with Jake. But I missed him. So I'm trying to spend more time with him. I don't want to neglect Phil, you know? He's the one that's always there, no matter what's going on in my head. He always loves me, no matter what I'm doing or who I'm trying to be."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That kind of unconditional love and support is important to have."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, it is. So I want to stay close to him. And he needs it from me, too, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But Jake...hmm. He said he loved me, but not really."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did he mean by that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, that's not exactly what he said. He explained that the way I love him and the way he loves me are not the same. I love him with stars in my eyes, fireworks in my head, fairy tale happily-ever-after kind of love. He loves me with compassionate, caring, because-I-deserve-it kind of love. Like the way you love your brother, or your friend, or a cat. My love is possessive, he says, and his is free."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's an interesting perspective. What do you think of that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I've been giving it some thought, and it doesn't feel exactly true. Oh, what he said about my love is right on the money--I am in a fairy tale. But his part doesn't ring quite right. He is possessive; he's said himself that he doesn't want to share me. He calls me every day. We see each other several times a week. I know I'm more than a friend to him. I know I mean more to him than his family--although, from what I hear, his family is bunch of kooks and losers. But he does feel a little distant. It's like he does feel a lot for me--compassion and...um, caring, and tenderness. But he's not \"in love\" with me, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And of course, there's the sex. You don't sleep with your family and friends. At least, not usually."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So do you believe he's deceiving you about being in love?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like lying? No, not exactly. I think he may be evading. Maybe he really is in love with me but for some reason can't admit it. Maybe it's too vulnerable a position for him. Maybe he's been hurt too much in the past."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe. But maybe he's not really in love. Maybe he's trying to spare your feelings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe. But I like it better my way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What evidence do you see to support your view?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doctor Balis, no man has ever treated me this well. He's kind, compassionate, patient. He listens to what I say. He shows me things I've never seen before, does things for me I've never done. He respects my feelings. When I feel like just holding, we just hold. When I'm feeling passionate, we're passionate. Although..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Just lately, the sex has gotten a little rough. He wants me to kneel in front of him to give him blow jobs. He spanks me. We do it doggy style. He hasn't asked to tie me up yet, but he's hinted at it. And he...well, he doesn't last as long. He reaches climax quicker now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you comfortable with this kind of sex play?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well...not really."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you expressed this to him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um...sort of. Not right out in so many words."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, do you remember what we said about maintaining your sense of self, not becoming someone else for the sake of the relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're telling me to stand up for myself and not engage in activities I don't enjoy. Just like the thrill-seeking stuff."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're right, of course. I should say no."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe it would be easier to bring this up sometime when you're not already engaged in sexual activity. Discuss it in a calmer setting, when you're less likely to be caught in the heat of the moment."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like over dinner, in the middle of La Petite Chateau?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know what I mean."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, of course I do. Oh, man, time's almost up and I didn't tell you the one thing I planned on."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What was that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jake wanted to go hang gliding again, and I told him no. He remembered my celebration when we landed, he thought that meant I was thrilled with the ride. I had to explain what it was really about. He was very understanding. See, that's another reason I think he loves me--he wasn't insulted at all that I don't want to go again, he didn't mind. Whatever I want is fine with him. So we compromised--I'm going to watch, he's going to fly, and we'll have a picnic afterwards at the base of the cliffs with gliders painting the skies above us."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds very nice. Congratulations on standing up for yourself. And I'm glad he took it so well."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Me too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you can mark that down as more progress, Katherine. See you next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. And I'll make a deal with you--I'll make progress before then, too. I'll talk to him about the sex thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds good. Goodbye, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Goodbye, Doctor Balis."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 17th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, September 10, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis. Here we are again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So we are. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too bad. Had lunch with Frank and Lloyd. Remember when I told you I wondered if Lloyd was on cocaine at the board meeting? I found out what that was about. He has a sinus condition; they're talking about surgery. Apparently Lloyd's not too wild about someone rooting around inside his face."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like you discussed more than just business."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did that go over?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too bad. He said to Lloyd, \"Since we're on the topic, how would you like her to be CFO?\" And Lloyd looked suspicious and wary and said, \"What do you mean?\" So Frank explained that he intended to retire come the holidays and thought I'd be a great candidate to take his place--I already knew the company, the board, and had Lloyd's respect and all. So Lloyd looked at me and looked at Frank and said, \"Well, that's a possibility.\" And then I disappeared. It felt weird."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that what he was doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, as I've said, he's pretty savvy. It could be that he's dead set against me taking the lead as the CFO and was trying to come up with a way to block it and preserve my feelings at the same time--so I'd stay and keep doing the bang-up job I'm doing now. It could be he really was more concerned with keeping Frank than with replacing him. Or it could be that he just didn't feel like thinking about it just then. Who knows?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. So what happens now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I talked to Frank about it last week. He said he's going to have to start campaigning for me. Of course there'll be a formal search for a new CFO--all the usual stuff--and the board will make the final decision. Frank will campaign to Lloyd and to the board. But it turns out that my CFO deal isn't the sure thing I thought it was."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You might not get the job?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I am the leading contender, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think you'll stay on if they hire someone else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We'll see. I'll work for Lloyd if I agree with how he handles things. I can still retire at fifty, if I stay in this position until then. And I've been starting to wonder--why do I even want the top job? Sure, I don't mind the politics, and the meetings, and all the other time-wasting crap I'd have to put up with. And the money is good. If we manage to keep growing, avoid falling into the sinkhole of acquisitions Lloyd seems to want to make, I'll be downright rich. But what for? What good is money and prestige if my life's empty?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is your life empty?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's not full and satisfying, that's for sure. There is Phil and Jake, I suppose. But I've been chasing that corner office so long, it's like I forgot to do anything else on the way. Now that I have it--or almost have it--I realize that it's not what I want at all. Well, I mean it is but...shit, I don't know. I'm confused."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you saying that you are not getting the satisfaction that you'd expected from your material success?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you really believe that's true, Katherine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. What do I have to show for thirty-one years of life? A fat wallet and a shiny car. A ne'er-do-well boyfriend to spend my money on. Did I mention that I pay for almost everything now? I can't remember how that started happening. One day, he was a little short. Another day, he bought dinner and I bought the tickets. Another time, I decided to take him out. Now that the nights are getting cooler, we're taking my car usually. Besides, I'm over the motorcycle--the thrill is gone, you know? So now he tells me where and when, and I pick him up and take him out. But god, he's so charming, you know? And there's definitely chemistry there. I can be mad at him and disgusted with myself over it all as long as he's not there. But as soon as I hear his voice or see his face, I just melt. I'll do everything he wants and feel good about it at the time--everything is just right as rain. Then later, I realize he's leading me around by--well, by my hormones, I guess--and lose all respect for myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, you deserve a lot of respect. You've achieved this level of career success because you're very intelligent, organized, and self-motivated. You've stood by your brother through thick and thin, supporting him all the way, and he obviously thinks a great deal of you. You've been trying to develop a lifestyle based on a strong set of morals and beliefs. Why, the very fact that you're seeking therapy is a proof that you have the insight to realize your own dissatisfaction and the will to do something about it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh. Well...hmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, you have a tendency to be very hard on yourself. You haven't made many mistakes in your career, have you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I haven't. Damn few. Work hard and think things through and you can avoid most mistakes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That may be true in the business world, but you're doing something much harder now. You're working to develop a whole new Katherine Lippard. And you're starting pretty much from scratch. Mistakes will be made; plans might not work out. You're dealing with people now and not numbers in the office. And people are much harder to predict than stocks and annuities."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You know what I mean, Doctor Balis. You brought it up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm interested in hearing how you work it out."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Sometimes a person is not who they seem to be. The image they project is just what they want people to see so they'll make an investment--like when I pretended to like danger and adventure so Jake will keep seeing me. But if you dig in deeper, get to know the person, you may find that it's a bad investment; they have no new products lines, no plans for expansion, no real vision. No matter now good they look to the public, the stock is going nowhere."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. And this applies to Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, sort of, I guess. But I was thinking more of me. I have a great image--successful, in control, strong, and aggressive. But there's no sound plan, no reason to think that I haven't reached the top of the cycle, and my stock has nowhere to go."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I don't know about that. What are you doing here? Aren't you creating new product lines, planning for expansion, gaining vision? Wouldn't you be a great investment as a turn-around candidate?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn, Doctor Balis. I didn't think you were following all that. Hmm, I guess I am. Hell, if Chrysler can turn around, I guess I can. Hey, that's another good analogy--you're my \"government bailout!\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure I appreciate that, but I understand what you mean."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, don't be insulted. The government bought Chrysler the time to make the necessary changes. So, I guess I need a new vision. You know, I'm more of a start-up than a turn-around. I'm not changing who I am, I'm building from scratch."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not entirely from scratch; you have a wealth of experience to draw on. How about a spin-off? You have one life--a business life--now you're making another."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like Saturn from G.M. Different philosophies, but both very successful."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes. I'm afraid our time is about up, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh. Damn, what a change. I have a new hope, Doctor Balis! But..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't get to talk about Jake like I wanted to. Can we take a few more minutes?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm afraid not. I have another patient waiting. But we can make another appointment if you want to come back before next Wednesday."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, I'll have to check my calendar. I'll call you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Goodbye, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Goodbye, Doctor Balis."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 47th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Thursday, September 10, 1998 at 11:00 am.\nKatherine! Hi, it's good to see you again. It's been a long time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi, Doc! Yeah, sorry it's been so long. I stayed longer than I thought would. And I've been working my ass off since I got back. And I've been looking for a house and...well, it's all just excuses anyway. And then you canceled my session last week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sorry about that Katherine. I had a family emergency that I had to deal with."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wouldn't know anything about those. I hope everything's okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It will be fine, thanks. How does it feel to be back?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I haven't even really caught up with Alex yet, though I feel like I really need to nail him down. He needs to talk. That boy sure leads an interesting life."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, that's a good word for it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Have you changed the office around since I left?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm always adjusting things a little. Why, what's different?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know exactly. It feels more crowded, somehow--more clutter, less space."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Things do have a way of accumulating. So how was your trip?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like an incredible place."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was. The whole trip was incredible. You have to go there sometime."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I just might."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That was in the third week. We were having such a great time, that we decided to stay an extra week. I sent a telegram to the office to tell them. A telegram, can you believe it? Finally, we had had so much that we couldn't absorb any more. Actually, when we got back from that hike two days later, we decided to just spend a couple days relaxing in a luxury lodge near Anchorage and then go on home. Phil is still painting. I've never seen him so inspired."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's wonderful, Katherine. I'm glad you got the chance to experience all that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, me too. It was really life affirming. When I came back and got into the City and the office, it was...wow, what a difference. But it's all wonderful in its own way, you know? I was afraid I might feel oppressed in a city this dense after all that open space, but it's okay. I'm okay. I can enjoy all this city has to offer on its own terms. And if I want to, I know the rest of the world is out there. I might go to the South Pacific next and see how wonderful that is. I hear New Zealand is pretty majestic, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I had a colleague who moved to New Zealand. He was pretty impressed by it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll give him your regards when I go."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm afraid we lost touch some years ago."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you feel that way, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks again for helping me realize all this. I owe you a lot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't owe me, Katherine, I was glad to help. I like my job, too."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good, that's good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did anything else happen?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you mean did I find him?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sort of."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What does that mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, we went to Malbae, the last place I heard from him. A man at the airfield remembered him. He said he was just a kid when my father left. But that couldn't be right, the guy looked at least 45. Anyway, he couldn't quite remember which town my father went to. But after we bought supper and an amazing amount of beer for five men, we finally narrowed it down to two places. Phil went to Annorack, and I tried Imaim. Phil struck oil the first night, so I flew over the next morning on Gehenna Air. That took most of the day, and I feel lucky to be alive. I actually watched a bolt rattle out of a wing support as we landed. I've never been so glad to get off a plane."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was the kind of thing Jake would do, although I didn't know what I was getting into when I hired that guy. Anyway, Phil met me at the airfield with this woman, Mary-Louise Clark. It was right out of a romance novel. Mary-Louise has a boarding house, and Daddy rented a room from her for four years. They soon became lovers and stayed that way until he left. She said he was a sad man, kind of lost, kind of distant. He seldom talked about his family, but she said he had a picture of all of us that he always carried next to his heart. And she said he was especially fond of kids. He flew the mail and supplies to homesteaders in the bush, and he took tourists and reporters around. But he never flew hunters or geologists looking for oil or anyone like that. And when someone got lost, he was always the first to volunteer to look for them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She made him sound like a good man, with a strong conscience...yeah...and a hero, too. The way Mary-Louise told it, there was once a group of hikers that got caught too far out without the right gear. They had an injured man, no fuel for the stove, and a blizzard coming in. Daddy knew they wouldn't survive the storm and went after them, even though planes were supposed to be grounded. He got them out just as the storm hit. He made it back by dead reckoning--no IFR beacons out there. It was a damn fool thing to do, but he saved four lives. Mama would have freaked if he tried something like that while they were married. Hell, I would have freaked in that position."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds like he took quite a risk."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Mary-Louise was pissed. But she's over it now. I can tell she loved him. She was full of praise for him. Apparently, he was caring, and compassionate, and stubborn, and quiet, and moral, and committed, and loyal, but finally, a drifter."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel about all this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good. I feel good, kind of complete. I know it's weird. How can I feel complete when there's so many questions left unanswered? Were is he now? Why did he leave? What was he looking for? But it's enough, you know? It's enough. He loved me, and I love him, and he's a good man. I feel sorry for him--he's always wandering, searching. And he probably doesn't even know what he's looking for. But he's trying to be useful, trying to do what's right. Hmm, he could be flying for Green Peace over the North Atlantic right now. Who knows?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm curious, Katherine, how do you feel now about his leaving the family?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I feel...well, I feel kind of sorry for him. I guess the marriage and family experience just wasn't for him. I was kind of inspired by Mary-Louise. Clearly she loved him, but she didn't fight it a bit when he said he had to go. She loved him enough not to hold him back. I can do that. I couldn't when I was a kid, I didn't know such a thing existed. Kids are all about themselves, you know? But I can now. I can let him go, let him pursue his own path. I guess that's something a parent has to learn when their kids leave home, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it is, although it usually doesn't mean never seeing your child again."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you talked to Phil about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. That night, after the vista I told you about, at the campfire, we talked. It was almost a week after we learned about all this. I guess it took that long to get to where I could talk about it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How does he feel about it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think Phil always understood what Daddy was doing. Even when he was a kid, on some level, I think Phil got it. He says he never really felt abandoned. And for a long time, he couldn't understand why I did. He's glad to know Daddy's such a good man. He says he feels reaffirmed. Do you know what I think, Doctor Balis? I think Phil is really much more Daddy's child than I am. I think Phil is the man Daddy wanted to be."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Phil loves life, he approaches it with zest. He's found his dream, and he's following it. He's free in the world and within himself. I think Phil should be a daddy. He would make an excellent father."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you given any more thought to having children yourself?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Some. I think I can do it. It will be hard to find a man to meet my standards, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't sell men short, Katherine. There are some good ones out there."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Probably. Oh my, look at the time. I've got to get back to the office--I'm still catching up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It was good to see you again, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, you too. Hey, Doctor Balis, let's get together for coffee or something once in a while, okay? Friends, no therapy. You're a nice guy, I don't want to lose touch."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I'll think about that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Take care."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 18th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, September 17, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. How are you this week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too bad, really. Frank's been in an amazing mood. I caught him with his desk full of travel brochures, planning a honeymoon of all things! He has children by two women, his divorce's not even final yet, and now he's engaged already. You'd think he'd learn."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Clearly this is important to him."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Clearly. And you know, he really does seem happy? I don't just mean giddy and excited, but genuinely pleased and contented with life. Like everything is great, and he's getting all that he wanted."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds like he is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. And I'm happy for him. I really am. It's just...I guess I'm jealous, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, here he is with all I want--top of his field, rich, ready to retire, free to do whatever he wants, and courageous enough to go ahead and do it with the woman he believes to be the love of his life beside him. I want that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It does sound ideal. It sounds like he's been working towards this a long time. Frank's a good bit older than you are, isn't he?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Of course. He's about the age I want to retire at."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think you can achieve all that by that age?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Probably. I'm almost at the top of my field. And as soon as I am, I'll be rich enough, too. In fact, if I play my cards right, I can move retirement up by as much as ten years. That is if I retire conservatively and not sail around the world with my third wife. Well, you know what I mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But free? I don't know. That's one thing that really appeals to me about Jake--he goes right off and does anything he wants, no regard for the consequences. Of course any money he has, he blows immediately. He's talking kayak lessons now--going to shoot the white water in a week or two. I'll watch from the sidelines, as usual."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are things going with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not through with the freedom thing yet. I admire Phil, too. He's rich when he sells a painting, destitute when he doesn't. But he's just as happy either way. He says things will work out however they're supposed to and there's no need to get uptight about it. Sometimes, I wonder if we grew up in the same family."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You do seem very different."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I could learn a lot from Phil. You know, I did something healthy last week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What was that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jake wanted me to watch him take his kayak lesson, but that bored me to tears. So I told him I had something else to do and spent the day with Phil. I just sat in his loft listening to folk music and watching him paint. It was very relaxing, very refreshing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you. You took control of your life and did what made you feel good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. It was liberating. Like I was me--Katherine Lippard, an independent woman in my own right, not just Jake's girlfriend."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you felt like that lately?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like Jake's girlfriend? Yeah, I have. I'm so torn, Doctor Balis. On one hand, he's amazingly charming and intelligent and attractive--a real catch. And he's good to me, for the most part. He gets a little macho and possessive sometimes, but that's just because he's so proud to be with me he wants to show me off. And he's great in bed. I mean, I've never felt so vibrant and alive and womanly. He can do things to me I've never even imagined. I've climaxed so much and so often that I've literally become dizzy. And that was just with his hands. When he...I'm sorry, I'm getting too graphic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's okay, Katherine, we're both adults. But I think I get the picture."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, the picture! That's the latest thing. After I told him I didn't enjoy the S&M stuff, he started talking about taking pictures. And I'm a little intrigued. I've seen some very tasteful, artistic work done with nudes, and I know Jake knows the difference between art and pornography. And I have a nice body. But I don't want naked pictures of me displayed in the gallery or getting around. Some of Jake's friends are Phil's friends, and I'm not unknown in the art community around here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Then that's something to discuss before you pose for these pictures."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Boy, there sure is a lot of discussion in this relationship stuff, isn't there?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, there is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So are you getting what you want out of your relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've said that Jake treats you well and the sex is good. What other satisfaction do you get from your relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What else should there be? He obviously cares for me, even if he can't say the \"L\" word. We have good conversations. We're comfortable together. He doesn't crowd me, and I try not to crowd him. It's just..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The magic is gone. I'm not giddy for him any more. I'm not excited to see him. It's become commonplace. And he used to treat me like a queen, like it was an incredible honor to be out with me. Now it's like we take each other for granted. Hmm..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel that sense of comfort and security with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, mostly. I know he feels it with me. I still think there should be something else. I mean...I guess it's okay that the initial excitement has worn off. We're comfortable now. And he's good to me. And he's stimulating--in more ways than one."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But nothing, I guess. Never mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I don't think you should ignore this. It's obvious you're feeling some dissatisfaction with Jake. You should find out what that's about before it poisons the relationship. If you can identify the problem, you can work on it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, that's just it. I can't identify it. Maybe it's nothing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I doubt it. Let's take a break from it right now, but keep it in mind, okay? During the week and while you're out with Jake, keep this in mind and see if you can put into words what you feel is missing. We'll talk about it again next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Can't hurt to consider it, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly not. Is anything else on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. My brother's birthday is coming up. And my mother's."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Which brother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Joey. Phil was born February 29th, can you believe that? He says that's part of why he's so charmed. He also claims to be a very old soul--almost through the Earthly lessons and possibly on his last incarnation before moving on to another astral plane. And I have to admit, he does seem to have it all together."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yet you sound skeptical."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, you know, I've never put much stock in that kind of thing, but lately it seems to be making more sense. I can't deny that everything I've read about Aquarius is right on the mark for me, including the way I interact with Jake...ah...uh, Scorpio. But it still seems far fetched to believe that your personality is dependent on the position of the stars when you were born."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not a believer in astrology myself, but my understanding is that even the astrologers think that the personality traits described by the astrological signs don't apply. I've heard it called \"newspaper astrology.\" Astrologers think that you need to have a detailed chart of the position of the stars and planets when you were born--a natal chart--and that has to be interpreted. So I wouldn't put too much stock in the generalizations about your astrological sign. Hmm. I wasn't expecting to give a lecture about astrology today. What about the birthdays?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Joey and Mama want me and Phil to come back for their birthdays. I'm thinking I might go. Oh, no--I wonder if that conflicts with that corporate retreat in the Bahamas? I'm sending my number two man, but one of us should stay and run the show. Well, I can check on that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you think you might go back to North Carolina to see your family?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "South Carolina. Yeah, I was thinking that might be a good time to talk to my mother about some of those things we discussed. You know? About Daddy, and how she felt about my relationship with him, and why she kept the college money secret, stuff like that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like a good idea. Can you get enough time alone with her?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. I'll take her out one night, just the two of us. Phil can go out with Joey and Rachel. He loves getting Rachel's goat, going to those upscale places she likes and acting all bohemian, watching her try to keep her composure while he mispronounces food and eats with his fingers and leans back in the chair waving his wine glass around. She's such an affected Southern lady that he swears he'll make her literally swoon one day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds like he has great fun. I guess everyone needs a hobby. When will you be going?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, second week in October, I guess, then we can catch them both--10th and 13th. If I can get away from the office at all, that is. Yeah, it should be fun, despite it being with my family. I really like my little niece and nephew, you know? And they love Phil to death. I hope they grow up just like him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "They could do a lot worse. Well, let me know if you're going to miss an appointment. And think about your dissatisfaction, okay? There may be something to that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I will. Good night, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 19th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, September 24, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. Have you had a good week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good enough, I guess. Frank says most of the board is on my side--on his side, really--backing the choice he made. So that looks good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's good news. Must be a load off your mind."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. It is."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh? Then why are you frowning?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I'm still wondering if this is really what I want. But we'll cover that some other time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. What about your trip? Are you going to see your family?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I am. We're leaving the morning of the ninth, coming back on the fourteenth. I'll want to catch up at the office, so I'll miss the fifteenth."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll make a note of it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I'm making a list of things to talk to my mother about."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds like a good idea. What do you have so far?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I haven't actually started yet. I know I want to ask about the money--why she kept the college funds secret. I mean I'm not mad, but I want to know her reasoning."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And Daddy, of course. I'm not sure yet just how I want to approach that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure you'll come up with something. It sounds like you're giving this a lot of thought. Will you share your list with me when it's done?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. I could use your input."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Speaking of thinking things through, have you come up with anything more concrete about what's missing in your relationship with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, nice transition. You know, damnit, I can't really get anything concrete. I've thought about it a few times and I've watched my feelings while we were together. I still feel pretty good about him. I still enjoy spending time with him. He's nice to be with, and we have fun. And I'd rather spend time with Jake than not. The only thing I can come up with is that the magic is gone. God, that sounds so clich��. What I mean is the spark, the excitement when the phone rings, the tingly feeling when he looks at me. Could it just be that the newness has worn off?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's possible. I remember you saying that you felt the novelty had faded and you were settling into the long-term, comfortable part of the relationship. You seemed okay with it then. Has something changed?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Did I say that? I thought you did. Well, either way...I'm not saying I'm uncomfortable. Quite the contrary, in fact. I kind of like it. I know he'll be there if I need him. I always have a date for the weekend. I don't have to go to functions unescorted. Jake fills a gap in my life that I've had for a long time. There's security in having a boyfriend--like knowing there's soup in the cupboard..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I've told you the good stuff--we have fun; he's supportive and comfortable. Sure, he can be pushy at times, and we don't share all the same interests. But he can't be perfect, can he?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yet you still feel something missing. The magic, the spark..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I wish I could put my finger on it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You may already have. What you're describing, is this a new feeling? Like there was something there before and now it's gone? Or has there always been something missing in your feelings for Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I'm not sure. I know I was so blinded at first by the excitement, the newness, that I couldn't see anything wrong at all. I couldn't even see the incompatibilities; I thought he was totally perfect. It could have been missing all the time, and I can just now see it. Or...are you saying that it's the newness, the initial excitement that I feel missing?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It could be. Have you ever gotten past this point before in a relationship? Past the initial excitement and into the quiet, comfortable part?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Ah, well, I don't think I've ever wanted to. I was headed that way with Andrew, but that was just a college thing--I wasn't looking for that to last years or anything."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you want your relationship with Jake to last a long time?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I would like to know that I could have a good, long-term relationship."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Katherine, are you still in love with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, let's see. I trust him. I still don't have a problem telling him anything. His little habits don't really get on my nerves. I can forgive him all kinds of petty offenses, just because of how I feel about him. I do care about him--how he feels, whether he's happy. Although I won't sacrifice my happiness for his, I'd give my life for him. But then again, I'd do that for a lot of people--that's just how I am. I mean wouldn't you risk your life to save a drowning child? Even if it's a total stranger?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think many people would."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Of course. I'd throw myself in front of a bullet for Jake, but I'd probably do that for anyone I cared about. Does that mean I'm in love with everyone I feel anything for at all?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We'll get to that in a minute. What else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Okay. I don't get that giddy, schoolgirl anticipation when I think it's him on the phone or when I'm getting ready for our date. I'm much more matter-of-fact about it. I can look at him now without my heart filling up with affection. I can think about him without being overcome with desire. But he still doesn't get on my nerves, and I still look forward to seeing him. So what am I? Half in love?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, let's talk about love for a while. Not Jake, just the feeling. It has been medically shown that a person who is \"in love\"--someone showing all the schoolgirl giddiness you've described--has a neurotransmitter profile very much like someone experiencing a psychotic episode. That is the brain chemicals produced by classic romantic love--the head-over-heels out of control and blinded by passion kind of feeling that you'd experienced at the beginning of this relationship--are the same chemicals and in the same proportions as those that cause psychosis. Are you following me so far?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So you mean that a woman in love is clinically insane?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. There's a cause-and-effect difference. Psychosis is a purely physical problem caused by a chemical imbalance. In the case of love, the chemicals seem to be produced by the feeling. But the result is similar. You don't feel you have control of your thoughts and feelings, you view the world differently. This is why you are willing to ignore many negative impressions of your new lover, and why people get into relationships that are clearly bad for them. They are simply not processing the available evidence as they would under other circumstances."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Is this relationship bad for me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I didn't mean that at all. I'm merely trying to explain the difference in what you felt for Jake at the beginning and what you feel for him right now. You see, the psychosis-like love doesn't last. After a while, your brain simply can't support it for long--the neurotransmitter profile goes back to baseline, and reason takes over again."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "As seems to be happening with me. So if that's all there is to love, and it fades that fast, how do people stay married and in love for a lifetime? Are they faking it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But that's not all there is to love. That's just the whirlwind, romantic love you see on TV and that you had with Jake in the beginning. Let's move to another love. Do you love Philip?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh? Certainly."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Describe that. How is it different from what you feel for Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I wouldn't sleep with my brother."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Aside from that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's comfortable. Caring. Compassionate. I'd give him anything I could, make him happy any way I could, just because that makes me feel good and just because he deserves it. It makes me happy to see him happy. Phil's one of those I'd take a bullet for, because I want to keep him safe. I'd rather see me hurt than him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How is that different from what you feel for Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's not, really. I care for Jake. I get pleasure from seeing him happy. I'd rather not see him hurt--that would hurt me. But I'm not sure how far I would go with that. I mean I want to take care of myself, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And that's good. I sense you're doing a good job maintaining your sense of self, your individual identity with Jake."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am. I'm proud of that. I'm glad you noticed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you. So do you love Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I do. Like I love Phil, but not as strong. Like I love children. But not like that psychosis thing, not like being in love. Oh no!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh shit, Doctor Balis! I just realized this. I love Jake, but I'm not \"in love\" with him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that alarming?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's just what he said to me. That was what I was so upset about a few weeks ago. Damn. So he was right. All this time I've been off my rocker, and he's been in this much more sober, mature mind set."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wouldn't say you've been off your rocker. You've kept a remarkably cool head on your shoulders for the level of experience you've had so far. You've taken your time, watched what you were doing, and didn't get in over your head. And you watched what you were feeling--a skill many people never develop."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I didn't do too bad?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not at all. You did well. You're still doing well."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. So what do I do about Jake?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you want to do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Actually, I want that psychosis back. I kind of liked that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that what you really want?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not really. I want a mature, long-term, loving relationship with a man I can live with."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you see that potential here?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe. I guess I don't know yet. There's still more to learn about him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. It can take months, even years to really get to know someone. But the payoff can be wonderful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doctor Balis? Have you ever been married?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I haven't. Why do you ask?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then how do you know about the payoff?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've seen it a few times. I hope to get it myself some day. And that's all the time we have for today, Katherine. See you next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh huh."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 20th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, October 1, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. Day off?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. Frank and I spent the day going through old files trying to sort things out and figuring out what I would still need after he left and what we could toss. We tossed a lot. It's amazing what you save because you think you might need it later and then never do. Why, doesn't this look professional?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, yes, you look fine. I just don't think I've ever known you to wear pants to the office."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're right, I don't usually. But we knew this would be a dusty job. Frank actually wore Chinos! With topsiders. I thought the most casual thing he owned was maybe double-knit and loafers."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been thinking I might go through some stuff at home the same way. So, let's get started."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And that is?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The list."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, things to talk to your mother about."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I thought I'd try to keep it to one page."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. Let's hear it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh? Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I might mention that I've been going out, but I don't want to get all into my feelings, and how serious this might be, and the possibility of grandchildren. Not until I know the answers."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Still, Jake is a pretty big development in your life. Don't you think she'd like to hear about him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Of course she would. But you're a pretty big development in my life, and I don't want to talk about that, either. I just don't want to spend the whole night trying to defend my feelings, while she tells me I'm worrying over nothing and should just grow up and settle down."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that what you think would happen?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "More surprised. I just wasn't expecting such a detailed plan."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, there's plenty of room for improvisation."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to hear that. So what is the \"Daddy stuff?\""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll say something like, \"You know, I really was devastated when Daddy left. But I was so wrapped in my own grief, that I never noticed what you were feeling.\" Then I'll get her to open up about that and describe just how she felt about him and why he really left."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Didn't he explain to you why he left? To pursue his dream?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, but that may not be all there was to it, you know? Maybe he never even wanted a family in the first place. Maybe he wasn't in love with Mama any more. Maybe he had cancer and didn't want us to watch him die. It could be a lot of things."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly. This might be a surprising question from your therapist, but if it did have something to do with your mother personally, do you really want to dredge that up?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think it's been long enough that she should be able to talk about it. Besides, I want to know. I don't think I'm ever going to be at peace with this until I have the whole story."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you have to be ready to find out that you already have the whole story. It could be that what he told you was the whole truth of the matter."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, that might be. But right now, I don't know, do I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. You don't. Is that the end of the list?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, the list is more of a reminder of things I want to bring up, not an action plan. That's in my head. Where we get into talking about Daddy, it gets pretty loose. I want maximum flexibility there, because it might go anywhere."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good idea."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I don't plan to have the list with me at dinner. Well, I might bring it along and maybe go to the bathroom once in a while to check it and make sure I'm not missing anything. But I don't want her to think I'm interrogating her from a script."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Here..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I'll be okay. I have to be able to talk to her about this without crying, so I may as well practice now. I'll work into it more slowly, of course--give myself time to get ready for the questions and the answers. There, better?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm always amazed at how you can do that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, one day I'll be able to maintain this composure and not lose it even a little like I just did and then have to get it back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe one day you'll allow yourself to lose it completely and actually experience your feelings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I experience my feelings."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, every time you start to tear-up about your father, you throw some switch inside that turns it off and then you change the subject. You won't ever come to peace with this until you can work through the emotions connected with it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hey, I bawled my eyes out when I first told you about it and again the next time. Give it a little rest, huh? I don't want to lose it in front of my mother, or it'll turn into her just comforting me. She has to know I can handle the whole truth, or she won't tell me the whole truth. And I have to have the whole truth, or I'll spend the rest of my life wondering. Once I have that, I'll come in here and spill my guts, and you can watch me go through a week's worth of Kleenex. Is that's what you want? Okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, don't look so surprised. You knew I have this stubborn streak. Now let's talk about something else."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And Philip's excited about the trip. He's just dying to see little Jeffrey and Lynn. And he's thinking up ways to get under Rachael's skin without being obvious about it. I swear, Phil gets along with everyone so well, it's strange to see all the venom he has for Rachael. But I don't think he hates her; it's just a game."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And how do you feel about your brother's wife?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She's okay, I guess. I mean she's a snob, but she was brought up that way. I feel a little sorry for her trapped in that image-is-everything mind set. And it's kind of sad that she can't leave Joey no matter how poorly he treats her. She just can't exist on her own."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about Joey?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, he knows a good thing when he sees it. But he's used to pushing limits. He takes advantage of her, does what he pleases knowing she won't leave him. But he's not really mean to her, he just gets away with what he can. He's not mean to her, but he's not nice to her either. I don't like that, but part of it's her fault. She lets him get away with it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But the kids are great. I haven't seen them in a while. I hope they're still as sweet and wonderful as they were. Somehow, they seem to be growing up okay despite their parents. Maybe private schools and summer camps do more for them than I thought."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Children can be very resilient."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hope so."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Anything else on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not really. I guess it'd be okay to end a little early, wouldn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure. I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 21st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, October 8, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine. Come in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi! Sorry about the time--I was tying up some loose ends. I wanted to make sure no decisions would have to be made while we were all gone."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "While who's all gone?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I'm going to Columbia tomorrow, and Frank and Jeff are both leaving for the retreat in the Bahamas on Sunday. That leaves the department rudderless for Monday and Tuesday of next week. But they should be fine. I'm actually thinking of not replacing Jeff after I promote him to my assistant. We don't need so many accountants. We've been effectively running short for weeks--while Frank's been handing over the reigns--and everything's been getting done."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you've been confirmed as the new CFO?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The board meets in early November, but Frank thinks I'm a shoo-in."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. So are you excited about your trip?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yes. I'm surprised at how excited I am. I've been thinking--I actually get along with my family fairly well. We don't agree on a lot of things, but I like my mother all right. I can't think of why I hold all this resentment towards her--she didn't treat me that bad. Maybe it's just left over from our competition for Daddy's love. I've realized that I blame her for his leaving, at least some."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why do you think that is?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I haven't figured that out yet. But I expect all that to come together starting Friday night."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's when you plan to question your mother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You make it sound like an interrogation. It's more of a fact-finding mission. I'm not looking to lay any blame, I just want to get all the information so I can come to grips with this thing. That's the other thing that's got me so excited--I can see the end of my turmoil about my father."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, once I get all the answers, I figure everything will click into place. I can decide how I feel about everything that happened, probably stop blaming myself. I'll come in here, tell you the whole story, and have a good cry like you keep wanting me to--I'll start letting it go. I realized that I've been holding onto my father all these years, never really coming to grips with the idea that he was gone forever. I think as soon as I have all the facts and can think about it from that basis--not having to fill in the gaps or wonder about things--I can really accept it, deal with it, and then get over it. I've been a hurt little girl long enough, Doctor Balis. I'm ready to grow up now and get on with my life."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Very good, Katherine. I'm glad to hear that. As you know, I'm not a big believer in suppressing feelings, and I'm very encouraged that you realize you have to work through your feelings to get past them."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But I have to caution you again--your mother may not have all the answers you're looking for, and the answers she does have may not provide all the clarity you want. You may still have mixed feelings, and they won't just dry up and fade away as soon as you start to confront them--there'll be a period of grief. Getting these answers is the beginning of the process, not the cure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, Doctor Balis. It's like we've changed roles. No, we've changed polarity. I used to be all cautious, afraid to confront anything, and you encouraged me to go out, get a life, and face my feelings. Now, I'm doing that with a vengeance, and you're pulling me back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm merely encouraging moderation and trying..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, yes--trying not to get my hopes up for a fast cure so I won't be disappointed when it takes a long time. I do remember our first few sessions, you know. Wow, what was that? Six months ago? But yes, I know we'll still have work to do when I get back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But that's not the only reason I'm excited about this trip. Do you know I haven't had a real vacation since I started at SII in 94? I've taken some days off--long weekends and stuff--and I've seen my family, but I don't think I've taken a solid week off since I moved here. I have weeks of vacation time accrued. I'm thinking of taking off again before Frank leaves. That's officially December 31, by the way, right in the middle of the fiscal year. But he'll be gone by Thanksgiving for all practical purposes. Hell, he's almost gone now! But what was I talking about?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Taking a vacation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yeah. It's too cold to go to Alaska now, but I could take a Caribbean cruise, or visit Hawaii, or maybe dance the Tango in Cancun...or the Cucaracha, or whatever it is they dance there. But it feels good just to get out of the office for a while, to know that they'll get by without me for a few days. It's like I'm not tied down, you know? Like I have freedom to balance my responsibilities."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's important."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This must be what it feels like to be Philip--no responsibilities, no deadlines, just doing what makes you feel good and enjoying life. I'll have to talk to him about that on the plane."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, I'm glad to see you're so ready, Katherine. I hope you enjoy your visit."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. So I'll see you..um, the 22nd? Two weeks from today, anyway. Enjoy your day off from me next week!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have a good trip, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye!"
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 22nd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, October 22, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine. Welcome back."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. I wish I could say it was good to be back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh? What's wrong?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I guess I misspoke. It's not bad. Just the same stuff again. Sometimes a vacation gives you a new attitude so life doesn't seem so drab when you get back, but sometimes the vacation just somehow fails to do that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Your life seems drab?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Well, no more than usual. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate my life. Sometimes, I have a real good time. But I think I did mention a general feeling of dissatisfaction. I was hoping it would just go away."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you're going to have to make that happen yourself."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I don't know what I expected. Magic, maybe. That things would somehow look different after a week away. Oh, well. You know, it wasn't a real vacation anyway; I was with my family, after all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And how did that go?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Actually, pretty well. Phil and I had a great conversation on the plane, we caught up on all kinds of things. He's going to be rich again soon."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, he got a contract with UCSF for a mural in the athletic building. He was sketching it out on the plane. It's a huge enterprise--ten feet high and forty long--depicting all the sports the college is involved in. He's got until after the Christmas break to finish it, and it pays almost as much as he made all this year. He says it's a compromise to his \"real art,\" but he has to pay the bills. And he asked me for investment advice! I think little brother may be coming to earth and realizing that he has to plan for the future."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh? And how do you feel about that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, it's nice to know he has some financial sense. I don't want to see him die poor. And I'd rather he didn't freeze to death when the winds come off the bay and through his walls this winter. But that's not what you meant, is it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I was..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Wait, I think I can get this. You remember me saying how I admire Phil for living by the seat of his pants, not knowing where his next meal is coming from, and yet being happy all the time, rich or poor. He's not worried about money or getting ahead. And now he's moving away from that mentality and towards mine. You think I may be disappointed?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Something like that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Ha! Someday, I won't need you anymore, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's the plan. So what about it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It wasn't the lifestyle I admired, it was the attitude. Phil could enjoy everything, no matter what happened. But I don't think he's changing his mentality, just his behavior. I still think I can learn from him. In fact, I did a little during this trip. The trip--it's the real topic of the day, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "As always, the topic is whatever you feel you need to discuss."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I'll tell you more of what happened. Rachael threw Joey a big party at their house and invited all the local glitterati. I didn't know Joey was such a big shot. The mayor came by, and two or three state senators, and some judges, and someone from the attorney general's office, and of course lawyers and socialites from four counties. And Rachael spent the evening dropping names of all the people who couldn't make it, right up to the governor himself, though Joey admitted to me that they'd never met. I got so caught up in all the ego tripping going on that by the end of the party, I was introducing myself as, \"the CFO of a major computer company in San Francisco.\" I have three cards from name partners who want to expand their work to the West Coast. As if the company doesn't have a legal department."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you enjoy yourself?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I did. I've been in the corporate culture long enough that I can fit in pretty well with that kind of crowd. But you know what? I can fit in with the artsy crowd too, and I like them better--more real, more colorful, much less concerned with how others view them. Which brings me to Philip."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He loved the party. He found an empty serving tray and walked around with it like it was a paper plate, putting canapes and drinks and big Dagwood sandwiches on it. Once, he picked up a whole bunch of grapes and bit them right off the bunch, one by one. Poor Rachael went pale at that one. But the hotshots loved him! He was so colorful--a real bohemian, just like they've seen on TV. He always had a bunch of them in stitches. I think they felt like they were connected to the common man somehow, talking to a real living artist from San Francisco. And he can be a real charmer when he wants to. I think he could have had half the women there, married or not."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He does seem to know how to enjoy whatever situation he's in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You said it. I want to be Phil Lippard when I grow up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Was your mother there?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yes. And Rachael even made a couple of toasts to her. Everyone paid their respects to Joey's mother in truest Southern manner. Then she and her boyfriend left early."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Boyfriend?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, she's been seeing this man Gary for years. He owns an upscale clothing store, does pretty well. But they're both comfortable just dating perpetually."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So the party finally broke up, and we three kids stayed up until dawn, just talking and catching up on everything. I don't spend enough time with my family. You know, Joey may be rich and important and all, but I still love him. I mean, of course I love him--he's my brother. But I like him, too, you know? He's an okay guy. He knows his wife is stuck up and hard to get along with, but he listed several things that make her okay. And he loves her in his own way. Not that it stops him from sleeping around sometimes and staying away occasionally, because she can be hard to live with. And he doesn't respect me just for what I've accomplished, but he does for what I am. Of course, he's proud of my position, but he's more glad that I'm strong and self-sufficient and straightforward and...well, all the things you talk about that make me a good person."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He likes you for you, not for your position."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. And I like him for him, in spite of his position. And Phil...well, Phil loves everyone, and everyone loves Phil. That's just part of being Phil."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you had a good visit."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. It was good to see Joey again, and more so to have the three of us together."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Doesn't Joey have children?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, Jeff and Lynn. We took them out Sunday--just them and Uncle Phil and Aunt Kathy. They've built a nice park, since we moved away, with a stream and a pond and wide open spaces--great for kite-flying. Jeff is wild and free, like Phil, but with a success-driven streak like Joey. But Lynn is kind of a snot. I'm afraid she's growing up like her mother. But she can't always pull it off. We got her to smile in spite of herself a few times, and her brother's a good influence on her. She might be okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And Mama had a barbecue Sunday night--excuse me, a cookout. Barbecue is shredded pig in a sauce. We just cooked a meal outside on the grill--that's a cookout. I'm getting too citified. So it was the whole extended family including Rachael but without Gary. And Rachael loosened up. Take her out of the hoity-toity and she's almost a regular person. She even ate barbecue chicken with her fingers and was just a little mad when Jeff and Joey had a--excuse me, Jeff and Phil--had a belching contest."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So your sister-in-law isn't the snob you thought she was?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, she is, but only to impress people. Which makes her a fake, which I still can't respect."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A fake? But don't you change your behavior to fit the company you're in? Does that make you a fake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, because I'm not trying to impress anyone. I'm just using diplomacy to get along."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I suspect she would say the same thing."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe. But seeing this side of her, I don't hate her as much. And I have more hope that the kids will turn out all right."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can help by setting a good example."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like making a success of my life rather than just my career? Like being true to myself rather than being what will get me ahead? Like hanging out with the people I like better, rather than the people it's politic to be seen with?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Right."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "See? I've been listening to you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I knew you had."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Speaking of people I like better, Jake was glad to see me come back. He said he missed me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. And I think he meant it. He was much more loving, paying attention to me, stroking my hair. He didn't talk about himself at all, seemed actually interested in my trip and my family. And the sex was more tender than it's been in weeks--more like making love than the exciting passion we've been having. All that stuff is fun, in and of itself, but it doesn't make a bond, you know? Our lovemaking has been more bonding, more enjoying each other's company and each other's selves, than the sex we've been having recently. I think he's realizing what a good thing he has in me, and is beginning to appreciate me for who I am."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hope so."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why do you say that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I'm not sure yet. But our time's about up, anyway."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You mean our time? Yes, I guess it is. See you next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Um, never mind. Next time. Good night."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 23rd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, October 29, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi, Doctor Balis. How have you been?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fine, thank you. What about you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too bad. The board meets tomorrow to confirm me as CFO. Unless someone decides to raise a big stink, it's just a formality. Frank gets to give his input. Lloyd does, too. I don't expect Lloyd to be too overjoyed, but then again, he's not likely to be satisfied with anyone. Besides, they don't have another qualified candidate. The search was perfunctory--just for form's sake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So how do you feel about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good. I feel good. It's the culmination of my career, I've hit the top--stock options, corner office, executive perks, thinking more than doing, being creative. Yeah, I think the creative thing is what's going to be the best about it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. So what about your personal life? How are things at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "At home? Um, organized. You know, things weren't as bad as I expected when I got back to the office. I had left it in pretty good shape, and Jeff knows his job. So even though he wasn't there for part of the time, things got done. I just had a little mail to answer, a few loose ends to tie down, and the office was running like a clock again. So that wasn't as bad as I expected. And I've been getting things at the house back in shape--fall cleaning, really sprucing up the place."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been shopping, restocking, and giving everything a real thorough cleaning. I even rented a steam cleaner for the carpets. It's amazing how much grime can still be in there even after vacuuming every week. And I'm thinking about painting."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is there this frenzy of activity?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um...well, I think I'm bored, really. Work hasn't been too engaging, and I can't see Jake every night. So I've been slipping back into my routines a little."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, is there anything else on your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know I seem a little scatter-brained today. Sorry."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Am I going to have to drag it out of you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. No. I just have to get up the nerve."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She told him to stop calling."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Your mother? Really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I've been trying to understand it, trying not to be mad about it. And I can, really--I really can understand her logic. She said she was disturbed at how upset I'd get every time daddy would call or send a letter. It took me days to recover--I'd just mope around, cry sometimes, feel sorry for myself for a while, until I got over it. Then in a week, or two, or a month, he'd call again, and I'd go through the whole thing again. She said she thought I'd never get over him as long as he kept calling and stirring it all up over and over again. So she asked him to stop calling. So I could heal, she said."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand her logic even if I don't agree with her conclusion."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. It is logical. But I can't help but be mad about it. I mean he was my father, for Christ's sake. She knew how much I loved him. She knew how I cared about him and how important it was for me to hear from him. And she fucking told him to leave me alone, to drop out of his daughter's life altogether...well, of all the kids. He was the most important thing in my life, and I had a chance to keep him there--a little at least--and she took even that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you're angry."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Except I don't think I should be. Mama's never been mean to me--never to any of us. I know she did what she thought was the best thing for me, and I kind of agree with it, you know? If I had been in her shoes, I may have made the same decision."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, don't invalidate your own emotions. Feelings aren't right or wrong and don't always have to be justified. Give yourself permission to simply feel what you feel, honestly. No one can say what you should feel in this situation. You feel the way you do. Period."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I don't just feel one way or the other. I feel them both. On the one hand, I think she took away my last link to my father--the most important person in my life--and I'm mad as hell about it. And on the other hand, I can understand why she did and forgive her for it. But the forgiveness doesn't stop the anger."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You shouldn't expect it to. The anger is something you're going to have to experience on it's own terms and to work through in due course. You have an excellent head start--recognizing your mixed feelings. This is much more than you were capable of when you started therapy just a few months ago."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Thanks. So are you saying it's okay to be mad at my mother even though it doesn't feel justified in light of the circumstances?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you need my permission?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Apparently so! I asked, didn't I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I can tell you all day that it's okay to experience your emotions, but it doesn't really mean anything unless you tell it to yourself."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, yeah, all right. So I'm mad. We'll table the question of whether that's okay or not for the time being. So what do I do with it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "For now, just allow it. Don't tell yourself it's not proper, just let it come of its own accord and see where it leads you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It wants to lead me into a confrontation with my mother."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does she know how you feel about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I tried to keep it real factual, to keep my emotions out of it. I thought I'd get more reliable information that way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I remember you explaining that plan to me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I didn't say anything then, and afterward I just couldn't decide exactly what my feelings were on the matter. Do you think I should tell her?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think it would help you resolve your feelings?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I think it would make her feel bad, and I don't want that. Is it really fair to blame her for decisions made a lifetime ago? She felt bad about it at the time, I don't want to stir all that up again now when it can't possibly do any good. All it's likely to do is make her feel bad, and we've all had enough of that already."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I appreciate your compassion for your mother, but you have to consider what being unable to resolve this is doing to you, too."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am, I am. It's a cost-benefit analysis, right? Will my venting at her make me feel enough better to justify her feeling worse? I don't think so. I think I can get over this without doing that. I can vent at you, if that's what I need."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fair enough. Did I understand you to say that your mother felt bad about it at the time?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I used your trick and said, \"And how did that make you feel?\" She opened right up. She agonized over this decision, considered how it would feel to me to think my father had just abandoned me, and decided it wouldn't be as bad in the long run as what it was doing to me at the time. I guess she got that one wrong, hmm?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, the long-term effects of abandonment can be much more significant than the short-term traumas you were experiencing. She didn't allow you any closure with your father, no chance to come to terms with the reality of the separation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, well, she wasn't a psychiatrist, was she?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, of course not. Did she get you any counseling at the time?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. Mama was raising us to be strong and independent, remember? Besides, it was twenty years ago. Seeing a shrink in the 70s wasn't widely accepted. There was a stigma attached, which I'm sure Mama didn't want us kids to have."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm, yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Still..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You know, I find myself defending her decisions even though I don't agree with them. She just made mistakes, that's all. But they were mistakes that fucked me up all the way here--all the way to what should be the pinnacle of my life. I would have liked to have known that my Daddy still loved me, you know? That he cared, and he wanted to see me. I would have liked to visit him and to have him at my graduation and to be able to call him next week and tell him I've made it--I'm the CFO. And I would have liked to know that he was proud of me. Here I go again, goddamn it, feeling sorry for myself over something I can't possibly change."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, it's perfectly normal to feel grief at such a significant loss. You weren't able to come to terms with it when it happened, you've been suppressing it for almost twenty years. And even now--when you are starting to feel it--you're invalidating your emotions and trying to shut them off. You're not going to get over feeling sorry for yourself until you allow yourself to feel sorry for yourself. Just as you're not going to get over your anger at your mother for the mistakes she made until you actually feel that anger as it comes--unadulterated. Katherine, stop judging your feelings and just accept them, experience them. I've seen you do it a little already. You can recognize what you're feeling, express it, even explain it. You can come in here and talk about it. But I don't think you're allowing yourself to really experience it. You've never gone all the way though the grief process naturally associated with the loss of your father. You're stuck in it, and that's why it keeps coming up so strong and feeling so uncomfortable."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm stuck in the grief."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Right."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because I won't get into the grief."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Because you cut it short and don't let yourself go through it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So next time when I get to feel this way, I should just go with it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you're in a safe place, yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Well, it wouldn't do to get into that at work, would it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, but it would be fine here or with Phil or Jake."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I don't know about Jake. But I understand what you're saying. I don't like it. I can't promise to do it. But I understand."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a good start. We're about out of time. Are you okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Yeah, I'll be fine. Look...uh, if I do get all into these feelings and it gets to be a bit much, can I call you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Certainly. Just call the office number, the service can always find me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thanks. Good night, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 24th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, November 5, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nKatherine, come in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi. Do you like jazz?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A little. I'm guess I'm more into classical music."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds nice."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, it was amazingly relaxing. I'd forgotten how nice it is to just enjoy the simple things in life and let the rest of it go. I came to work today feeling better than I have in weeks. And I still feel it. I'll have to do this more often."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There's a good jazz club in the East Bay--a place called Yoshi's. They've got live music several nights a week. And there's probably some good clubs in the city. I can't think of any right now, but I'll try them for you if you like."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That'd be great! Go to some cramped little room, smoke cigarettes, drink gin, sit back and just let the music soak into me...yeah, I want to do that. Will you go with me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, you know I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Relax, I wasn't serious. It wouldn't do to mix your work and social life, would it? Still, if you weren't treating me, I think we could be friends."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think so too."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So while I was in the tub, approaching Blue Note Nirvana, I got to thinking about some things we said last week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Like how I never really got to come to terms with Daddy leaving, and how I don't allow myself to experience my grief."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I'm starting to understand why Daddy had to go. When we talked and in the letters he wrote, he told me how great it was where he was, how wonderful he felt pursuing his dream. I began to understand that he wanted us to come with him and that Mama wouldn't do it. I suspect that part of the reason why she told him to stop calling is that he was talking about me maybe coming to live with him. Well, I brought it up. But I was definitely going to visit. So what I think is that you were right--if we had continued to communicate, I would have realized that he hadn't deserted me and that it wasn't about me at all. He just had to pursue his dream, and he was trying to have it both ways--keep in touch with the family and go after what made him complete. But when he stopped calling, that solidified it in my mind that he had deserted us. And I began to think that everything he had said--about me coming up there and him not wanting to lose contact with us--was just a lie. It's the old \"actions speak louder than words\" syndrome, you know? He said he wanted to stay in touch, but then he didn't."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you no longer believe he deserted you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not sure. I don't want to believe that, that's for sure. But again, I'm torn. I have evidence both ways. On the one hand, he said these things, and I want to believe them. On the other hand, he let himself be bullied into losing all contact with me. And--here's the big one--if he really wanted to keep in touch, he could have gotten in touch with me later, when Mama couldn't stop him any more. He could have sent me a damn card for graduation or just a note after I turned eighteen or something. But he never did."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did your family move?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "After he stopped calling, did your mother move the family to another address?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. We got the apartment...no, we were in the apartment the last time I heard from him. We got the house--I don't know--a few years later, before high school, anyway. And Mama moved again after all the kids left. Why?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It could be as simple as he didn't have your new address."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We were in the book. And I've been listed ever since I've been on my own."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Of course, now that you mention it, once I left Columbia...no, he still could have called my mother and found out where I was. Oh, well. I still think I may try to track him down."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How would you do that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Private detective. I have the money."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh yes, I remember."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You said yourself that he didn't have any money after he moved. And it sounds like your father wanted to be in the wilderness in Alaska, where it would have been very hard to raise a family."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hey, who's side are you on, anyway?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm your advocate as always, Katherine. But I'm asking you to see all sides of the picture. In this case, your mother might have been right. Divorce may have seemed like the better option. Look at the education you got, the success all the children made of themselves. Are you sure you could have done that well in the wilds of Alaska?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, yeah, okay. You're right on this one. I can see how that may have been the better choice. But I can still be mad about it, can't I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, certainly. Your mother made some poor decisions, but maybe she made some sound ones, too. But you were hurt. It's reasonable to be angry about those things. Let me ask you, did your mother ever discuss these things with you as they were happening?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. Absolutely not."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you ask?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It wasn't allowed. Mama was sort of a despot. No one ever crossed Mama, or there was hell to pay. Not even Daddy. Maybe that's part of why he left."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What kind of hell?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, she never beat us. I mean there were spankings sometimes when we really deserved it, but she wasn't abusive. No, it was more the yelling, the sulking, the...uh, putting herself down. She would say things like, \"You should know better than that, I'm such a bad parent--I didn't teach you that.\" Which of course made me feel like such a bad child because I hadn't learned it, because I knew she was the best parent you could ask for. Or she'd yell and yell and yell, making you feel just awful and worthless. No, Mama didn't have to hit us--she had words."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Words can hurt just as badly as beatings, and the wounds can last longer."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tell me about it. What brought that up? Oh, yeah, we never talked about Daddy leaving after he left or about him not calling. I couldn't ask, I knew she didn't want to talk about it. And she made him out to be the bad guy--he left, he stopped calling, and that's all there was to it. Of course she wouldn't tell me that she sent him away and told him to stop calling. I guess it was easier to let me believe my father had deserted me than to admit that she had something to do with it. She could do no wrong. I guess I can add that to my list of things to be mad at her about."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh. Look...uh, I'm through with this topic for now, okay? I don't want to get all hot and raving about it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This is the perfect place to do just that, if you need to."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know. But I don't want to, okay? I don't like it when I do that. It feels...it feels out of control. That's scary. I think I just want to be mad a little at a time, okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fair enough. Do you have anything else that you'd specifically like to talk about today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah...um, I did. Just a minute, I'll come up with it. You hate to see me shut my emotions down, don't you? Well, I'm not doing that this time. I'm going to stay angry just as long as I am angry, okay? I'm just not letting it get out of control."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh yeah, I remember. It was about dealing with the grief--the grief at the loss of my father is something different from all this other stuff about desertion or Mama's splitting us up. It's just the normal grief process following a loss, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it can be like that--just the loss, not the circumstances."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think it's denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. This process is most often associated with death. The survivor denies the death, refusing to believe it, sometimes gets angry at the loved one for dying, bargains--usually with God--for a return, experiences depression as the realization sets in that the death really has occurred and is irrevocable, and finally accepts the death. Not everyone experiences each stage. And sometimes, two or more stages can occur simultaneously. The first three stages often occur very quickly, but the depression can last for some time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Did you ever teach?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why do you ask?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You just gave me a college lecture on the subject. You even changed--you got all clinical, in some kind of professor mode. I think you'd be a good teacher."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. I taught a bit as a psychiatric resident, but it wasn't my avocation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So, stages. Well, I never could deny it--he was gone, simple as that. Although I did used to pray that he'd come back or that I could go there to be with him. That's your bargaining. Anger? I guess I'm in that now, although I'm not mad at Daddy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We're almost out of time, but I want to talk about that next time. Think about whether you have any anger toward your father for leaving."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Homework, eh, professor? Okay. Maybe I'll do it in the bath. But I want to finish with this grief thing before I go. We covered denial, bargaining, anger. What's next--depression? I guess you could say I've been depressed about it for twenty years. Is that normal?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's longer than usual, but it strikes me that this is the first opportunity you've had to really explore this loss. You certainly didn't get any support from your mother."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. And I knew I was supposed to be strong and bear everything silently. That's what Mama taught us. You don't get ahead being all emotional."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. But you stay behind by suppressing your emotions. We can work through your depression here, Katherine. The way you approach your therapy, it shouldn't take too long."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good. Good. I'd like to be through with this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, our time is up for today. See you next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. Uh, do you know if Alex is coming today?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, not today. Is something wrong?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, not really. I just wanted to apologize for slighting him last time I passed by. And I like him, he seems like a nice kid. Has he changed his time?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know I can't discuss my other patients...well, maybe that's a bit too strict an application of my rule. He just cancelled today, but he'll be back next week, I think."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, okay. Thanks, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Night."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 25th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, November 12, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Congratulations!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Frank will be on the payroll until December thirty-one, but basically he'll be persona absentia after Thanksgiving. He's pretty much cleaned out his office, introduced me to all his contacts, briefed me on how to treat every board member--I have a notebook on each individual's quirks and pet peeves. I have Jeff set to move into the assistant's job, and I'm leaving one accountant's position open for now. There's only one little snag."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Some of the staff think Jeff is gay. So he may have a problem exerting his authority."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "More so than you did being a woman?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Good point. And there's always a rough period when a new boss takes over, particularly when he's promoted from the ranks and then has to supervise the people he used to work beside. There can be resentment."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are there other accountants who wanted the job?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, most of them applied for it, of course. Fortunately, Jeff is senior to all but one, and that one doesn't have the education. And I interviewed some outside applicants, but they all fell short."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So Jeff is clearly the most qualified and senior of the applicants?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Then there shouldn't be too much resentment. Is he gay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll be looking for them."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you really interested in skiing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I've always thought I'd like to learn. And some ski lodge, far from civilization with nothing but majestic mountain peaks wherever you look, seems like a great vacation. Outdoor exercise in the daytime, romantic fires at night, and no contact with work for a solid week. I'm looking forward to it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you and Jake are doing well?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, it's been good. We've settled into a real comfortable relationship. It's not going anywhere at the moment, but we're both okay with that. We've decided to enjoy what we have, to set no goals so there'll be no pressure, and to see what develops. Of course nothing may develop, but then again, maybe we'll decide later on that we want to spend the rest of our lives together. We'll see what comes up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you both really feel that way, that sounds like a healthy attitude."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you find yourself being able to open up to Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I remember that you've had some hesitation to reveal to Jake some details of your life and your feelings. I got the impression that you didn't trust him with the full depth of your emotions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You caught that, huh? Well, you're right, I don't always trust Jake with everything about me. I don't know that he can handle the extent of my neuroses or deal with the strength of some of my feelings. And frankly, I'm a bit embarrassed about what I'm going through with my father. I don't want Jake to think I'm a fragile neurotic who can't get over some disappointment twenty years ago. I'd like to be stronger than that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. What are you afraid will happen if Jake learns of what you're going through regarding your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I'm afraid he won't respect me as much. But I don't think he'd leave."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is his respect a serious issue between you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he has to know I'm a strong and self-sufficient woman. That's a big part of why he's with me, he's told me so. He likes that I'll take charge sometimes, that I'm not one of these \"oh, whatever you want to do\" kind of women. And ordinarily, I'm not. There's just this one issue I get all weepy about, and the whole rest of me is what he thinks it is. And I'll be through this soon, anyway, so why blow his image of me when that image is, for the most part, correct?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think it's important to be able to share all of your feelings and concerns with someone you love--to let him see a more complete picture, so he can know the whole you and know that he loves that part, too."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You asshole! Do you have an answer to everything?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've been a psychiatrist for some time. Katherine, Jake may develop more respect for you if he sees that you have a vulnerable, feeling side, too--if he sees that you're not afraid to confront your demons, that you're not afraid to cry. And he may find you more accessible and therefore easier to love."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I don't know. Jake's not that good with feelings either, you know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, you know him better than I do. But can you really have a long-term relationship with a man if you can't trust him with your true feelings?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Look, I'm not convinced that this is a long-term thing yet. You said yourself it can take many months to get to know someone well enough to make that determination. I'm getting to know him. I have to hold something back, okay? I'm not going to give everything up just yet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Fair enough."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. So. That's the update on my life, my present life anyway. It's time to move on to the pressing issue of the day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Go ahead."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I did my homework as assigned, Professor. You told me to think about whether I was angry at my father at all. I am, a little. I'm mad at him for leaving in the first place. When he decided to have kids, he made the commitment to be there until they were all grown up. I hardly think eleven years old qualifies. And I'm mad at him for allowing my mother to keep us apart. And I'm mad at him for not getting back in touch with me after I was eighteen and could decide these things for myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. And what are you doing with all this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was planning just to feel it, like you said. But what's strange is that I know I'm angry about all these things, but I just can't work myself up into a rage about them. It's more like I'm just a little peeved, not really pissed off. Annoyed, maybe. It's a legitimate anger, and I feel like it's justified. But it's just not as strong as I expected."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel like your anger should be more intense than it is?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know if \"should\" is the right word. I did expect it to be more intense than it is. It's just...well, the more I think about it, the less it seems to matter. I mean there could be a perfectly good explanation for all these things, even if all it is that he just couldn't stand up to my mother. I can certainly understand that! Maybe he was weak, maybe he cracked under the constant Mama onslaught, maybe he just made some bad decisions. Whatever it is, I can't hold a grudge for the rest of the man's life or, more importantly, for the rest of mine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can't?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No! I can't. And I don't want to. Sure I'm mad, but that happened so long ago. And I know for a fact that he really didn't want to hurt me. I really do believe that he would have prevented that if he could. I think I could forgive him. In fact, I think I have. And forgiveness is a big part of healing, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it is. You've come to these conclusions just since last week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I spent a lot of time on it. I thought about it almost every night. Plus, I got to talk to Phil about it some. It's like I'm doing therapy by myself now, every night. It's hard to get things done, you know--chores and stuff, after the sun goes down--and since it's getting dark earlier, I get more down time. I use that time to think about what we've talked about. Things seem much clearer in the night, don't you think? One of Jake's poems says something about that. Hold on. \"Truth hides behind the rational activity of day, is revealed in night's quiet darkness,\" something like that. So when it gets dark, I sit back and ponder on what we've covered. You said everyone needs a hobby? I guess this is mine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm impressed. Few people devote much time to therapy outside of this office."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe you should assign more homework."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe I should."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, so...I guess I don't harbor much resentment for my Daddy. I'd still like to talk to him, though, to know that he's happy, to tell him what I've been doing, to make him proud of me. So I'm looking for a private detective."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you sure you want to do this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I think I have to settle it all in my mind. I just want to tell him I made it, and that I still love him, and I don't resent him for what he did. Because, you know, it occurred to me he might think I hate him now, after all that's happened. And I want to tell him I hope he's happy and I wish him the best."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you prepared for what you might find? He might not even be alive, or the trail could be so cold that he's impossible to locate."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know. I'm ready for that. If he's dead, I'll visit his grave and talk to him there. If he can't be found...well, that would be disappointing. But at least I'll know I tried. And of course it could be that he's just not interested in hearing from me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That could be."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, that would hurt. Yeah. But I should hope he's mature enough to deal with his long-lost daughter looking him up, only because of the love in her heart. But if not...well again, at least I'll know I tried. But whatever happens, I feel like I have to get it settled in my head. I need to know what happened to him, where he went, who he is, and at least try to make a connection. Otherwise, it's still open like an unsolved case. It never ends."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're looking for closure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Exactly. I was afraid you'd think this was a bad idea."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, I have my reservations, but it sounds like you've thought it through. I hope there's a happy ending. Our time is up for today, Katherine. Would you like some more homework?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I think that's a good idea."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fine. You've given your anger with your father a lot of thought and decided you can forgive him. Work on your mother this week, okay? No goal in mind, just analyze your feelings, experience them without censoring, and see where it takes you. Okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thank you, Doctor Balis. You've been an amazing help to me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to do it, Katherine. Good night. See you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good night."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 26th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Katherine. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis. It was a pretty good week. Work is work, Jake is Jake. Phil is ecstatic, which I guess is just another way of saying, \"Phil is Phil.\" So how is Mrs. Balis and the little Balis children?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sorry?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Just a stupid joke. I've noticed that I always come in with an update on my life, some meaningless chatter before I get to the heart of the matter. Today, it just sounded even more trite and meaningless. I wonder why I waste time like that? I'm doing it right now, in fact."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It can be hard to get started sometimes. If you need to ease your way into it, that's fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. That sounds right. I don't want to get into the heavy stuff, so I stall. Which...shit, I guess I'm still doing. Okay. Here goes. My homework was to think about my feelings towards my mother-- about Daddy's leaving and her telling him to abandon me. Well, they're pretty strong."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Whenever you're ready."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. I'm a little mad at Daddy for letting himself be pushed into breaking all contact, but like I said, I can understand that. I guess it was he who left in the first place, but that's another discussion; I'm getting off track already. I was trying to say that while I'm only a little mad at Daddy and can start to forgive him, I'm supremely pissed at my mother. Daddy left and all, but he wasn't going to split with me entirely; it was Mama who caused that. It was she who made me think--who made an eleven year old girl think--she had been abandoned by the one person who meant the most to her. I've realized that it was Mama who caused all this pain I've been carrying around for two decades. And I'm pissed! Damn! That fucking bitch! I could have gotten over this years ago. I could have had a Daddy all this time, could have grown up knowing what it was to have a father who loves you, and...shit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's okay, Katherine, go ahead. Here're the tissues."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Goddamn it, Balis, I wanted a father! I wanted Daddy. And that self-righteous, know-it-all, controlling bitch cut him off. Damn! You wanted emotion? Here it is, Doctor, in all my pitiful glory."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't find anything pitiful about it at all, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, well. What else can I do? You know what I want to do? I want to take a baseball bat to this place, that's what. I'm so fucking angry that I can see myself just beating the shit out of anything nearby. But I can't, can I? So it builds up, fills me up with no place to go, so I cry."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can beat up that pillow if you..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, fuck you and your cheap psychiatrist tricks! If it won't break, it's no good and you know it. It's better yet if I can get hurt, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Where are you going?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, relax. I'm not looking for something to bust. I just have to move around a bit. Is that okay with you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Good, because I'm doing it anyway. I've had this rage coming, Doctor Balis. I deserve it, and I'm damn well going to enjoy it. That bitch! You know, when she told me what she'd done, my first instinct was to stand up and shout, \"You did what?\" Then I wanted to snatch her lying throat out. But no, I wanted to get the whole story, to come to grips with this at last. I'm amazed that she didn't see the fury in my eyes; I must be a damn good actress. And I'm glad I did. I don't know if I'll ever be able to face her again without snatching her bald-headed or something. But I...what the hell are you grinning at?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sorry. I've just never heard that expression before. Please go on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Quack. I managed to keep a straight face when my mother dropped this bombshell on me, at least you could try to do the same."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine? Why are you attacking me?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not, damn it. I just...oh, hell. I'm sorry, okay? This isn't about you, you know that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Of course I do. But maybe you should sit down again, okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Take a minute to compose yourself. We'll go on whenever you're ready."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thanks. Where did those tissues go?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "They're on the couch."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Okay. I'm better now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. Now, was all that anger directed at your mother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I don't think it was all anger."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You know how weepy I get over my father. Some of it was that, I think. The old grief I haven't finished with yet. It got mixed up in there and...I don't know. Amplified it somehow."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. But there was a good deal of anger there in the first place, right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure, I said that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was it all for your mother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. I'm not following you, Doctor Balis. What are you driving at?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Could some of that anger have been directed at your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh? No, I told you about that. Where have you been? I'm mad at my father, sure, but he did what he could to stay in touch. He doesn't hold most of the...of the culpability. He wasn't the one who hurt me, at least not primarily."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But he did hurt you. He was the one who left in the first place."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure, we've been over this. Why are you...oh, I see. You don't think I'm letting my father share in the blame or in the anger."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, your reaction to your mother is quite violent, even though you've said that you don't think she meant to hurt you, that you think she just made a poor decision. But it's your father who actually left. And then when your mother cut him off from you, he made no further attempt to contact you even years later. So why do you think you harbor so much more resentment toward your mother than your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, maybe it's a time thing. I've had twenty years to be mad at Daddy. I don't know, I'm tired of it now, maybe. I've just found out about what Mama did. It's fresher, maybe."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Do you ever remember being angry at your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yeah. I guess. Hmm. You know, now that I think of it, I don't think I ever really was. I was sad, downright broken-hearted. Well, sure, I was mad. He told me he loved me, then he left...oh, hell. Balis, I don't know. I'm all in a jumble right now. Damn, and I thought I had this all worked out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's okay, Katherine. Fits and starts, remember?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, yeah. I guess today was a fit, right? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to get nuts."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's okay. This is a safe zone, Katherine, I won't be offended by your behavior. But I will expect you to replace anything you break."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, that's a deal. But I think I can control myself in the future."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Look, I'm worn out. Can we call it a day?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure, that's fine. See you next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, are you going to be here? It is the day before Thanksgiving."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm flying out to see my family that night, but I'll keep my Wednesday appointments."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I'll be here, I guess. Have a nice weekend."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thanks. Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 48th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Monday, November 23, 1998 at 12:00 pm.\nCome in, Katherine. It's good to see you again."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. It's good to see you, too. How have you been?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fine, fine. More to the point, how have you been?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "On the whole, I've been pretty well. I moved into a new house."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I heard, over in Seacliff--a very nice area."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I like it a lot. I'm thinking of having a housewarming in a few weeks. Do you think you can come?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That might be a bit awkward. I assume you'll have people from SII, and I treat a lot of SII employees. Some of them might be uncomfortable if they ran into me there."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm, you're right. Maybe you'd like to come over alone some time, to enjoy a sunset on the deck before it gets too cold? Do you like cognac?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, I still don't think..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We could have Phil over, too. I know he'd like to meet you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So what brings you here today, Katherine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I understand, the decision's been made. On to business. I'm a little concerned about Alex. You know he's been staying with me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I knew that. You understand that, even though you and Alex are friends, I'm very limited in what I can discuss about him with you without betraying any confidences."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I know. But this is mostly about me and what I can do in this situation."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. If we keep the discussion centered on you...does Alex know you're here?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I asked if this would make him uncomfortable. He seemed okay with it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Well, where can I start? You know he's been staying with me. It's not a real problem, there's plenty of space, he has a room of his own. But...well, it's starting to cramp my style. I like my solitude. I like to be able to come and go as I please, play my music, have someone over if I want to. But there's very little solitude with Alex. When I'm there, he's kind of...well, clingy. Sometimes it feels like having a dependent child."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I understand that he's been through a trauma, and it must be uncomfortable for him to be alone. He's jumpy, and emotional, and sometimes almost regressive. He needs comfort, and support, and validation, and stability. I know I represent the epitome of stability to Alex. And I know he sometimes feels like I'm the only one who understands and cares for him. And I do care. I am sympathetic, and I want to support him. But I don't really understand...I've been through the Rape Crisis Center training for counselors, but I haven't been able to bring myself to actually fill the role. I just don't think I can do the job. I've never been the victim of any kind of abuse. I don't think I have a frame of reference from which to approach him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. I don't think you need to approach him as a rape victim counselor. It's not your role. Those issues Alex and I will deal with here. You're his friend, and it's that friendship that Alex wants and needs. Just be a good friend to him. Be non-judgmental, supportive, and caring. He needs an anchor, and you seem to be in the perfect position to provide him with that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, okay. I see that, and that's pretty much what I'm doing. But two things are happening. First, I don't feel like just being there for him is effective. I am providing a safe haven, both physically and emotionally, but I don't understand what's happening with him, what's going on in his head. Do you think you can help me with that? Why is he so skittish and unstable emotionally? And...well, why is he downright childish at times? Is this a normal reaction to a rape?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. What about the childlike behavior?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Some victims unconsciously regress to what seemed to be a safer, simpler time in their lives, when the world wasn't such a scary place."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So he could become dependent on me as a mother figure, a protector?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's a possibility, but it doesn't sound like Alex."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, he has a stubborn, independent streak that won't allow that. I don't think Alex was ever really a child."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess you shouldn't express an opinion on that. There is something else that I kind of feel guilty about."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's starting to cramp my style. I love him and all, and I want to be there for him. And I think I'm doing an okay job at that. I'm not uncomfortable with him. We have some good times together. And frankly, sometimes, it's nice to have someone else in the house. But at the same time, I want my solitude back. I feel selfish about it, but sometimes, I wish he would find another place to stay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's not unduly selfish. You're used to living alone, and suddenly having an indefinite house guest, not to mention a teenager with heavy emotional needs, can be very trying."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You know, Alex is so worldly; it's easy to forget he's a teenager."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you discussed this with him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really. I don't want him to feel like a burden on top of all the baggage he already has."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's laudable, but you have to take care of yourself, too. You shouldn't neglect your own emotional needs; that could put undue strain on yourself and on your friendship with Alex."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If I grow to resent Alex that won't do either of us any good, will it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It could easily make a tense situation worse. Are you looking for my permission to tell Alex your feelings about having to take care of him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "God, Charles. This is frustrating. I want to do all the right things, I want to help. Alex didn't deserve any of this, all he's really guilty of is some poor judgment. And trying to keep kids out of trouble is sort of a mission for me; that's what the Rec Alliance is all about, that's why I started the Foundation. But there, I just coordinate social workers and skilled volunteers. This is personal, and it's hard."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It is hard. Social workers have a high burnout rate. That's why it's so hard to find a good, experienced intervention professional. By the time they get highly skilled, the cumulative stress begins to take its toll. You need to be careful not to let this happen to you. Set some limits, draw boundaries. Make keeping yourself healthy and comfortable a high priority."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Well, I am concerned about myself. That's why I'm here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you came. You can strike a balance between your needs and those of your loved ones."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I worked very hard to get where I am today emotionally. I like the person I've become. I'm well rounded, stable, and content. I wouldn't want to lose any of that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I need to back off from Alex in order to protect myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. If you really feel this way, you have to be careful how you go about that. If Alex senses that you're putting up barriers, he may take that as a rejection."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, then I guess we need to discuss some limits."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How do I approach that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How about, \"Alex, you're cramping my style. Get the hell out.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you still have some sense of humor."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Too strong? Okay, maybe, \"Have you thought about how long you're going to stay here?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's better. That opens up a dialogue."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. But I'd like to have some ideas about where he could go. If that asshole Benny gets out of the hospital, then Ralph's place wouldn't be safe for Alex. Maybe Elgin or Josh could help with that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have to be careful and not reveal to others any of the confidences that Alex has entrusted to you. Maybe your social worker contacts could help?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe so."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So is there anything else you wanted to talk about?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Let me see. Well, we covered Alex's symptoms, the pressure I'm feeling, and my guilt over wanting my space back--I haven't even spent a night alone in my new house. You helped get me back on track for taking care of myself--thank you. That was all the major stuff. My job is still the same. Lloyd is still an eccentric genius. My staff is happy and stable. The books are balancing. We've increased the dividend--you should have bought stock when you had the chance. More money's going into R&D. But this is all very mundane, it's not really relevant. Oh, I have a date this week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you. Who is he?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's a benefactor for the Rec Alliance. I started to work on him for a donation to the Foundation, and we hit it off. He's old money, never had to work a day in his life. He just dabbles in the market a few hours a week to keep the wealth flowing in. But he managed to be a real nice, down to earth guy anyway. He was raised in New York, got a business degree from Harvard. He decided he didn't like that, so he moved here to get a master's in Philosophy from Berkeley. Now he's a philanthropist."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Quite a varied background."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, we'll see if he's different in a purely social situation."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So this is your first date?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I'm going to meet him for dinner."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good luck with that. And I'm glad you're still meeting people..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Expanding my horizons!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Indeed. Well, our hour is up. It was good to see you doing so well, Katherine. If you need more help with Alex, I'm always here. You can come in and talk things through any time. I'm here for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you, Doctor Balis. I may call again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Feel free. Goodbye, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 27th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, November 26, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis. Happy Thanksgiving."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you, Katherine. Same to you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Listen, I was thinking--after I left here last week, I got to feeling kind of embarrassed at how I acted. But then I thought, \"No, I'm supposed to do that stuff.\" That's kind of the point, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, Katherine, that's just right. This process works best if you can feel free to experience and express whatever you're feeling. Here in the office, the normal rules of protocol are suspended so you can do just that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "With the exception of replacing whatever I break."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, I'd rather you didn't break anything, but if it should come to that, yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Deal."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So what's on your mind this week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanksgiving. And Christmas."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about them?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Old family memories--daddy mangling the hell out of some poor turkey, little bits flying off the electric knife; hanging construction-paper decorations we made in school; the time we strung popcorn and cranberries, eating as we did it even though the popcorn was stale and the cranberries sour. We hung it on a little pine tree outside, and the birds ate it. That was beautiful--flocks of little birds all over the yard and the tree, flittering hither and yon. I even remember Daddy teaching me what \"hither and yon\" meant while we watched. Then they all shat pink for days because of the cranberries, and the walk and Daddy's car were just a mess! And I remember when Daddy had to be away one Christmas, and we were sad. But Mama kept us busy and joyful until he got back three days after Christmas, and we had it then, because we had saved it for him. I remember Mama wanted an artificial tree, but Daddy wouldn't hear of it. He insisted we get a real one every year, then he lectured us all about fire safety and keeping it watered. I can remember the smell...I can smell it right now. There were always a few needles that got stuck in the carpet, and it was absolute hell to get them out. And cookies...Mama baked all kinds of cookies for Christmas, and the house smelled just incredible. I walked into a bakery last weekend, and it smelled like that. That's what got all this started in my head. There were Chris Chickies, and Sour Cream Softies, and gingerbread snowmen, and those stamps in the shape of Santa Claus and Christmas trees--we decorated them with sprinkles and icing. I expect a package of those in a few weeks. Mama's been sending us all some every year since we moved away. Except Joey, of course; he's still in town. Phil just gets a cup of tea and sits down and eats them all at once. But I save mine, just have a few every day, so they last for weeks. That's how it was when we were kids--there were cookies for weeks. Mama would make huge batches, and we weren't allowed to have more than a few at a time--can't spoil your appetite, you know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, certainly not. It sounds like you have some pretty nice memories of your childhood Christmas times."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Yeah, I do. Sometimes I think that seeing a psychiatrist, I should have some horrendous tales of childhood abuse to relate, but it wasn't like that. Mama and Daddy loved us, they took care of us, they were never mean. Certainly, they never beat us. Daddy never even raised his voice to me, not to any of us. Not that I can remember."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about your mother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, Mama was a different story, though it wasn't that bad before Daddy left. In fact, when he was gone on business, she was extra nice to us, made sure there was always harmony while he was away. But she could still yell sometimes. Of course, the yelling wasn't the worst. I told you about how she would make us feel useless, and stupid, and guilty, didn't I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, you did."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn, how did I get on this? I was remembering happy stuff. Oh, well, anyway. It seems like it got worse after Daddy left. Or maybe it was just because we were getting older, I don't know. Maybe we were getting less afraid of her, so she had to step up the level of terror."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you feel terrorized by your mother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh? No, no, that was...uh, just a bad choice of words. You know how you build up resistance to a drug, so it takes a stronger and stronger dose to get the same effect? It was like that, I think."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Or maybe it was just that she didn't have Daddy's calming influence any more. You know, in the beginning, she was sympathetic to me after Daddy left, but after a while, I think she lost patience with it...with me. Finally, she was just barking at me to snap out of it, get over it. He was gone and that was that, and I'd better just learn to live with it. Hey...she cut me off from that, too. I was doing the whole grief thing, being sad about it, and she made me stop. Damn. Like I need another reason to be mad at her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you weren't allowed to experience your sadness, work your way through it at your own pace?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Right. And I got no sympathy for it. Well, only a little."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How long were you allowed to grieve?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. He called for a couple of months, then stopped, then...I don't know, four months? Maybe five."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So your father kept in contact for two months. Then after three more months of no contact, your mother told you to stop grieving, is that right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Close as I can come. Is that enough? I mean, what's the average?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, it varies. It's hard to say just how long someone should grieve; the only correct answer is until it's over. Obviously in your case, it was not long enough."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You still didn't answer me. How long, usually, for this sort of thing?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's not unusual for more than a year to pass before a child comes to grips with the loss of a parent."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A year. So I've been shortchanged seven to nine months of grieving."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You could look at it that way. Alternately, the grief has been on hold since then--still there, but not allowed to surface because you were still held by your mother's command."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Held? Well, I guess so. I mean, I believed her. She said I should be over it, so I believed her. Hmm...I don't think I could just start grieving again and be over it seven months from now. I think the time for that has passed; I've missed the window of opportunity."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not necessarily. I think you're in an excellent place to do just that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're much more mature now--independent and able to make your own decisions and judgments. You have the whole picture, you have perspective, and most importantly, you're in therapy. What an excellent opportunity to experience your loss, talk about it, feel it without judgment, and work through it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. You're right. You've said yourself I do therapy really well; I should be able to put this behind me in no time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I agree."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So...um, how do I start? Well, I've started already, of course. So what's next?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you should reconsider how much responsibility your father shares in all this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought you might say that. I noticed last time you wanted me to be madder at him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't want you to be anything, Katherine. But I do think he shares in the responsibility for causing an eleven year old girl a great deal of sorrow. Hmm...okay, homework. I want you..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, come on, Professor! Homework over the Thanksgiving break?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I know, I'm an ogre. I want you to consider your father's part in this with an open mind. And see if you think he may indeed share some responsibility."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Are you going to see your family this weekend?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I'm leaving tonight. What about you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. Mama asked, but we were just up for the birthdays. Jake and I are cooking seafood at my house. He doesn't like his family much, either."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, have a good time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I anticipate a very quiet two days, full of laziness and lovemaking."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds good. See you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Enjoy New York. Happy Thanksgiving."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. You too."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 28th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, December 3, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis. Did you have a good holiday?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, thank you. How about you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was just as I anticipated. We lazed around all day, watching football, drinking spiked eggnog, and eating turkey sandwiches that Jake brought from the deli. Then it was Pouilly-Fuiss�� with the cheese, Beaujolais Nouveau with the Lobster Newburg, cognac with the chocolates, and a hangover the next morning. By the way, did you know that orgasms are an excellent hangover cure? Have one immediately, repeat as needed. It's better than chewing aspirin, and there's no awful taste in your mouth."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll keep that in mind."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So how do you like your new cat?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you know I got a cat?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's all over your tie. I can't help but notice those ties, they're kind of...uh, noticeable. But the last two times, you've had cat hair on them. If you ever stood up, I'll bet your pants are covered."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, she's very affectionate. It's been a learning experience."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll bet. Hey, how old is Alex? Eighteen, twenty?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Younger. Why?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I met his roommate. I guess I should start at the beginning. I took him over to meet Phil last Wednesday, and we had supper. I know Alex is an artist--that's how we met--and I thought he and Phil would get along. And they did, they hit it off real well. I was afraid Alex might be attracted to me, but it became apparent at supper that he's gay. He had some doe eyes for Phil, but poor Philip's just oblivious to these things. Women do the same thing, and I don't think he notices at all. So after supper, I took Alex home and I met his roommate Ralph. He's at least twice Alex's age and apparently is well off. And I started to wonder just what the situation is there. I know Alex has trouble at home, and I wonder if he's being Ralph's little boy-toy just for a place to live. Not that it's any of my business, I know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. What are your feelings toward Alex?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought about that myself. He's cute and all, but he's way too young for me. And of course he's gay. I guess I feel kind of maternal. You know, since Philip's all grown up, I don't have anyone to take care of any more."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that important to you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I have thought about having kids. I think I may have something to offer the next generation. But I wonder if I'd be a good parent. And. of course. I'd have to pick the father very carefully; I want my kids to grow up with two parents there all the time. I'd be pretty pissed if my husband left halfway through raising his children."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Like your father did."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, damn you, like my father did. Of course you'd bring that up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It does fit, doesn't it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "She made an impression on you, huh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Have you met her? You can't answer, I know. Well, if you have, then you know how...what a forceful personality she has."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, enough of this. It must make you uncomfortable to have one patient talking about another."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's okay. I can keep pretty clear boundaries. Though my patients do seem to have a knack for running into each other."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, well, I guess you get a lot of business from SII. I know the contract you have with CalaCare. Some of them must know each other from work."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I guess I've done my chit-chat for the day. It's time to turn in my homework."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Something wrong?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I just don't want to admit it. You were right. When I said I'd be mad at my husband if he left halfway through raising the kids...my father did that, and I am mad at him. I was shortchanged, you know? He made a promise. When you have kids, you know that you'll have to dedicate your life to raising them, until they're ready to go out on their own. He didn't do that; he broke his promise. But you seem to think I should be just as mad at him as I am at my mother, and I don't think that's right. See, even though he left, he tried to keep his promise as much as he could. He called, he was going to visit, he might have let me move up there with him. It was Mama who cut him off, who forced him to break his promise totally instead of just halfway. So I feel justified in being more angry with her than with him. I guess if it was all him, I'd be mad all at him. As it was, he was trying to take care of himself and still to take care of us, too. So I could be half as mad. But Mama cut him off, so I feel like it's two thirds her fault. So I'm twice as mad at her as at him. Did you follow that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, but she does share in his leaving. We could have gone with him, it was Mama who said she wasn't moving the family and made him go alone. So it was 50-50 until she cut him off. Now it's much more hers."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Well, let's table that for now. So you realize that some of your anger is directed at your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yeah. But it's hard to be mad at him, you know? When I think of Daddy, mostly I'm just sad. I feel the loss, but not the blame. I know you don't want to hear this, but I think mostly I'm over it--being mad, I mean. He did what he felt he had to do, and I can understand that. At least he tried to live up to his promises, as much as he could. I just...I'm tired, Doctor Balis. I'm tired of carrying this burden around. I don't want to be angry, I don't want to be sad. I just want to get over it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. Carrying such a weight of emotion around can be quite draining."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, exactly. And I feel better about it, I really do. This has been good for me. All this talking has been...uh, damn, I can't find the word. When you talk about something and it feels good just to get it off your chest, just the release is a relief...what am I talking about?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Catharsis?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah! All this has been cathartic--just getting it out in the open. And you've really made me consider just what my feelings are, so I can see it so much more clearly. Just that has been a relief. Things are sort of falling into place on their own."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've done a lot of hard work here, Katherine, and made some real discoveries about yourself and your feelings. I'm glad you feel that it's helping."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I do. It is."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So what do you feel about your father now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Okay, I'm a little mad at him. He made a promise, a pretty big one, and he broke it. But people change, and priorities change, and I can see where he's coming from. It doesn't excuse what he did, but I can understand it. We don't always make good decisions. So I can forgive him and get over being mad."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Anything else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm still sad about losing him, but I guess I may always be. It doesn't make me cry anymore. Well, you know, I miss him; I'd still like to have had a Daddy. I'd like to have one now. So I am sad, and I do miss him. I guess that's the grief process, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Uh huh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Seven more months, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "However long it takes, Katherine. Don't cut yourself off at some arbitrary date."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like my mother did, yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about your mother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, man, Doctor Balis, do we have to get into this now?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you don't feel up to it, you don't have to do anything. But we have the time, and as long as we're on the subject..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're right, of course. I'm just tired. This can be real work sometimes. My mother. I'm pretty mad at her, and that's fresh, because I just learned about her part of it just recently. So I may be awhile getting over that. But I thought of something over the weekend. As Jake was soaping me up in the shower--of all times--I felt kind of bad that my mind wasn't on...uh, what was going on. Maybe it wasn't all about me. Maybe it just hurt her too much to be reminded of him all the time. Maybe she had to cut me off so she could cut herself off, so she could start getting over it. If that's the case, I sort of pity her for that. Sometimes, I forget that she loved him, too. I mean, I could see it whenever they were together; she was so totally in love. I think I described that to you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I believe you did."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So maybe I can get over being mad at her, too. Right now, I don't feel much of anything. I really am emotionally exhausted. Time's about up anyway. I think I'll call it a day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's fine. I'm proud of the work you've done on this, Katherine. You've made real progress in a short time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. That's good to hear. I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 29th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, December 10, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I found out where I know Alex's mother from."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Larraine Rozzi is a head of SII's mail room. She also apparently has the ear of one Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Lloyd Major."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really? From the mailroom?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, not exactly. Did you ever hear of Nils Landors? He's the head of Advertising and Presentations. Apparently some time back, he used to be Lloyd's \"buddy,\" if you know what I mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think I do."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That man is a total sleaze. A few months ago, he tried to get Sylvia Bows fired while the woman was on a maternity leave. Can you believe that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, Nils loves to get dirt on everyone in the company. I guess Larraine found a receptive ear in Nils. She told him that I've been going out with her son. Nils went to Lloyd. And today, Lloyd came to my office very concerned for the image of the company--a CFO just can't be hanging out with a sixteen year old boy and requiring psychiatric help. He's worried that if the public gets wind of this, they would lose confidence in the company and the stock would drop. It couldn't affect our bond rating, but it could devalue the company. It's hard to be a Fortune 500 company if no one believes the Chief Financial Officer has her shit together enough to keep the books in order."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that really his concern?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think so, yeah. I doubt Lloyd's really worried about my abilities. He's seen the books--however much he understands them--and Frank's assured him I'm the right one for the job. He trusts Frank, and I'm pretty sure he respects me. Certainly he knows I have my ducks in a row after the job I did on the retirement system. The other option is that he wants to get rid of me for some personal reason. I know he's upset about the way the Apple takeover fell through, but he can't believe I doctored the numbers out of spite or something. But if he didn't want me in the position, he wouldn't have endorsed me in the first place."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did he endorse you? I thought he was opposed to the idea."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he was reluctant. I don't suppose \"endorse\" is the right word. \"Abstain\" is more like it. He just kept quiet and let Frank and the board make the decision."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So what happens now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I know he's a sly bastard. You don't get in that position by being Mr. Nice Guy all the time; politics can be rough. Hell, I had to knock off an occasional opponent during my climb up the ranks back at Nations Bank. I feel guilty about it, but that's the way it has to happen. I know Lloyd's good at the game. The question is whether he's motivated to hurt me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't think so. I think he's sincerely concerned for the company's image and valuation. I'm sure if he thought I was a liability, he'd do his best to get rid of me. But I don't think it's personal."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Could a rumor like this actually hurt SII's bottom line?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, not profits, no. But it could hurt our stock price, on which the total value of the company is based. Investors are as driven by psychology as much as P/E ratios--more so, probably. If they think they smell a scandal, or worse, a criminal action..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Criminal action?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Alex is a minor, remember?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You just took him to dinner right? Just how powerful a rumor has Larraine and Nils generated?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Look, if the price of a stock drops on a rumor of my behavior, then the scapegoat is, of course, me. No one will care to figure out what's true and what's fiction."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But could this rumor actually cause the drop?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, frankly, I don't really think so. Companies do lose value based on how the chief executive acts. But I haven't heard of a case in which an implied indiscretion of a CFO caused the collapse of a corporate empire. Look at Rupert Murdoch. He has a reputation as a megalomaniac--he's interested in owning the world more than in boosting his company's value. So NewsCorp's stock languishes despite a good P/E ratio and solid profits. And besides, the threat is low, and I have defenses."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you considered Alex's feelings about this scenario?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, we haven't actually talked about that. Hmm. Well, I plan to talk to him anyway. I want to warn him what to expect, if it should come to that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. But please listen and consider his feelings in this situation as well as your own. Did you tell Lloyd about Alex?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I told him we met in the art community. I didn't mention that he's gay. It didn't seem necessary at the time, and I want some aces in the hole. I also need to find out from Alex just how his mother got that little tidbit about psychotherapy. I managed to assure Lloyd that it wasn't a problem. I think he took that as a denial, but I'm sure he's skeptical. But therapy is actually easier to counter. Plenty of people see psychiatrists; it's not as much of a stigma as it used to be. If need be, I can ask you to explain that my condition does not affect my daily functioning and certainly not my professional performance. By the way, what is my diagnosis?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, just to have something to put on the insurance forms, I'm using Simple Adjustment Disorder. It's an unspecified complaint but it satisfies the HMO."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't like the sound of that. It makes me seem maladjusted, somehow. Can you come up with something that clearly wouldn't affect my everyday life?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I suppose I could use something like Delayed Grief Reaction, but that usually comes with depressed mood. I could comment on your unusually high level of functioning, that should counter the normal depression. But, Katherine, I'm uncomfortable putting anything like this in writing for public consumption. And I certainly don't want to appear before the board."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I have no intention of putting you before the board. A letter would do it. But I don't think it'll come to that. If Rozzi insists on pursuing this, I'll ask her if she wants the company to know her son is gay and has disowned her. I don't want to get involved in mudslinging--a smear campaign is not becoming to a ranking executive--but I think I can avoid it coming across that way. Like I said, I have some experience in politics myself. And if she really wants to push it, I can play the poor victim to the board. I know some of them personally, and poor Walter Montgomery still pants like a puppy whenever he sees me. I'll explain it all ever so innocently. She and Nils will come across as the aggressors, and the Board may even decide they don't need their destabilizing influence at SII. Ha! Nils Landors and Larraine Rozzi picked the wrong bitch to fuck with this time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You really think this could get them fired?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If they really want to push it and I play my cards right, it could happen."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that what you want?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Right now, I just want it to go away. But if they really decide to try to hurt me with this load of crap..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. This has been a nice distraction--much different from my usual sessions. You know, the more I think about it, the more I hope they actually do try to make something out of this. I haven't had to play the politics in awhile; it could be fun. It would certainly add some spice to my life."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel your life is dull?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're so predictable, Doctor. Just as soon as I said that, I knew what your next question was going to be. My life is okay. I do things with Jake; I'm meeting new people, getting out. No, my life's not dull. But a new, unexpected spice can be exciting, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it can be."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I guess next time, we'll get back to the regular grind. By the way, I got a report from the detectives. They're having a hard time locating my dad. Apparently the FAA won't give up the records they need. I thought that they could just find his pilot's license and get his address from that, but that's not public record. So they want to send someone to Alaska to ask around at his last known location and try to pick up the trail that way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds time consuming."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It sounds expensive, is what is sounds. I told them to hold off on that a while. I'm starting to wonder if it's worth that much to me. I've already paid over $700 for nothing. I wouldn't miss a few grand, but I don't know if finding him will really settle anything in my mind. It may be better just to come to grips with it here and leave him alone. Talking to him might just make it worse."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It might."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Well, I'll think on it some more. Meanwhile, I have shopping to do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Phil expressed an interest in making soups this winter, so I'm getting him a Crock Pot for Christmas. I'd like to get him an apartment with a real kitchen and that isn't part of the Jet Stream, but he likes where he is."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He hasn't patched up his drafts yet, huh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, he's been too busy with that mural. You should go see it, it's really something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe I will. Well, time's about up for today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, hey, I need to let you know--I'll be here next week, but the week after that I'm going to Columbia for Christmas. That Wednesday is Christmas Eve anyway, and I doubt you'll be working. But the next Wednesday is New Year's Eve. Are you going to be here then?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, I'm going to be available, but just to patients who are in crisis. The holidays are a difficult time of year. If you have a crisis, of course I'm here for you, but otherwise let's just skip both sessions. So we'll keep next Wednesday's session and then the next time I'll see you will be in 1998--let's see, that will be January 7th at 5 pm, okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. So next week as normal and then no sessions for two week--that'll be fine. See you Wednesday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Happy holidays, Doctor."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 30th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Katherine Lippard, Wednesday, December 17, 1997 at 4:00 pm.\nHello, Doctor Balis. Merry Christmas!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Katherine. You seem chipper today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am; it's kind of strange. Usually I hate Christmas, but this year it's not so bad. Here's your present."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, you didn't have to do this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know, that's what makes it so great. It's neither expected nor reciprocal. I just felt like it. I got you something just because I wanted to get you something, not out of any sense of obligation. That's the spirit of giving."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you feel that way. Thank you. So this Christmas is better than usual?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Well, it's not Christmas itself, but rather the whole mandatory gift-giving thing. Phil's been trying to bring me around for years, but this is the first time I think I really understood it. Jake says he doesn't bother trying to figure out what people really want for Christmas; he just gives them what he wants them to have and doesn't worry about it. He says people should be grateful getting anything for free. I coupled that with what Phil's been saying about gift giving being about the giver and not the receiver, and I finally got it! Giving should be fun for me--like a game or something just for my own amusement. So I saw something I think fits you, and I gave it to you. And if you don't like it, I don't care! I like it, that's what matters. And I understand something else, too. It's a gift--it's yours now, and I can't say anything about what you decide to do with it. If you want to give it away, or burn it, or make it a cat toy, that's your business. You're under no obligation to me to like it, or use it, or anything. I gave it, that was fun for me. But now I have to let it go."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a good attitude. How did you feel before you discovered all of this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I used to be much more concerned with equity. I had to give everyone something at least as valuable as what they gave me. And it had to be carefully thought out to match their tastes and needs. And it had to be balanced with what I gave other people who that person knew, so no one would feel slighted--no one would think I was playing favorites. I still feel those pressures; it's hard not to think that way. But I'm working on it, and I think I'm doing a good job."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, our society teaches us some odd things about gift giving, equity being the most prevalent. It sounds like you took it to something of an extreme, though."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I do have a tendency to be extreme...or I should say I did. Ever since I got off the east coast, I've been moderating. Phil has a lot to do with that. We've gotten a lot closer since we moved here, and he's turned out to be amazingly wise. That boy should be a guru; society could learn a lot from him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He certainly seems to be good for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He is. But you've helped, too. I can feel a difference in myself just since I've been seeing you...what? Six months now?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, you've made wonderful progress. I've seen you loosen up quite a bit, give others the benefit of the doubt, put much less pressure on yourself. How about your original complaints? Do you still hoard food and supplies for a feeling of security? And how do you handle disruptions in your routine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, the hoarding has slowed down. I still hate to run out of stuff. But if it happens, I don't go nuts over it. I still have routines, but they're much more flexible. I used to have a shopping day, a cleaning day--a designated time for everything on each particular day. Now, I do it when it needs to be done. But everything still gets done--I don't run out of stuff, my house stays very clean, the laundry doesn't stack up. I think some degree of routine is healthy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I agree. But what if the laundry should stack up for some reason?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then I do it when I can. I remember why I came in here in the first place. That seems so ridiculous to me now! Of course it did then too, that's why I came in. Can you explain to me how all that rigidity was connected to how I felt about my father? That seems a little far fetched."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think there are two things happening. A little girl who loses her father feels that she has lost control over what is most important to her. Keeping things tightly under your control was a way of trying to keep the lid on a world which wasn't always ordered the way you wanted it to be. And I think there was a spill-over effect. You spent a lot of energy keeping control of your feelings. So much so that you began to believe that you had to keep control of everything, and that actually helped you for a while. A less disciplined person could not have advanced in her career the way you did. But it snowballed, becoming less useful and more pathological until finally something had to break. It's good that you had the presence of mind to seek therapy when that happened, rather than redouble your efforts and just lock down tighter."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, Phil had a lot to do with that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He helped get you started, that's true. But you took it seriously and worked diligently at home as well as in here. You're a strong woman, Katherine. Many people can't face their feelings the way you do and make the conscientious changes that you have."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. This makes me realize that we're halfway through our time and we haven't done any real therapy yet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't know about that. I think reviewing the progress you've made is important, too. You should be proud of your new attitudes about gift giving, and you should be proud of the progress you've made in therapy. Give yourself a pat on the back, Katherine. You deserve it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A little positive reinforcement, eh, Doc? Okay, I'm feeling good anyway; I'll feel a little better. Congratulations to me. Good work, Katherine. I'm healthier than I used to be, and it's mostly my own doing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hear, hear!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, enough self-promotion. Oh, no, no--not enough. Fifteen more days!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fifteen? New year?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And what happens that day?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Of course, your promotion."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. It finally came home to me at Frank's retirement party. That's when I started counting the days. You know, Frank must not be the same person at home that he is at work--his family just adores him, and there seems to be no tension there at all. I finally met all the children and got it straight about who is who, as if it matters now. One son--the product of his first marriage--is gay and is dating an absolutely gorgeous man. Alex would love him. Another--the product of an affair with his now fianc��--is a hippie, utterly charming, dating this total flake. And I didn't realize that his fianc��--with whom he had an affair and a child--is his ex-wife's sister. God, this sounds like \"The Rich and The Dutiful.\" And I thought Frank was as boring as they come. But his daughter is clearly his daughter--composed, organized, polished, and educated. And the resemblance is uncanny. I never realized how attractive Frank is until I saw his beautiful young daughter. I considered trying to find a way to introduce her to Phil, but she's too mainstream. I don't think she could deal with the loosely turbulent, care-free attitude of the art world."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Is she that much more mainstream than you are?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been drinking much lately?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, not since Thanksgiving--that was a mess. But you can't listen to jazz and not smoke cigarettes, so my Benson & Hedges intake is up. And Jake has taken to cigars, but that has to stop, at least in the house."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are things going with Jake?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fine, fine. But the big news is Larraine Rozzi. It seems Friday she felt the need to alert our PR department of a possible public relations problem."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, no."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yes. Tom came to see me Monday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Tom? Is he from the PR department?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, Tom is a VP for marketing. I guess Landor wasn't effective enough for Rozzi, so she went to Grover Hamilton in Public Relations. Grover brought it to Tom. Anyway, it was fun, we had a good laugh. He came in all smiling and jolly and said, \"Hey, you sly dog, what's this about you dating a high school kid? I wish I could get a sixteen year old.\" I said, \"Oh, you don't know the half of it.\" So I told him about Alex being gay--which got us joking about doing conversions--and about how we supposedly met at his psychiatrist's office--which got us joking about how Rozzi needs a psychiatrist. She already has a reputation as something of a vindictive shrew. Tom asked me how I had gotten on her shit list. So now it's out that Rozzi's kid is gay and that he's seeing a shrink. And it's out that I'm a patron of the arts and like to help out starving artists. I'm a sweetheart, Rozzi's a bitch."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you confronted Larraine about this at all?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, that's where this is going. Tom and I decided that this had gone far enough. So we brought it to Rozzi's boss--VP for internal operations--Malcolm Spunt. He's also de facto my boss--finance being an internal operation. Anyway, we told him the whole story. He brought Rozzi in, and then the shit hit the fan."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, my."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yes. When she saw the three of us waiting there for her, I actually watched the color drain from her face. I thought that was it--she had met her match and was going to fold. But she didn't. That woman doesn't know when to quit. Malcolm is a hell of a manager, I could learn from him. He laid it all out, pointed out how silly her allegations were, told her she was making a fool of herself and it would be in her best interest to stop. But he managed to do it all with respect and in a positive light, talking about the good of the company rather than what an ass she was being. If only she could have let it go at that, it would have been all right."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like I said, she doesn't know when to quit. She started in with the same stuff all over again, trying to make me the bad guy. She wouldn't give it up. Finally, she was on her feet shaking her finger at me and yelling about how I was the bad seed in the company, not her. He told her twice to calm down. Then finally, he stood up and shouted, \"Larraine, sit down and shut up!\" Boy! Have you ever met Malcolm Spunt?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I can't say that I have."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's a tall, burly black man with a big, authoritative voice. I've never seen him angry before, and I hope I never do again--it's scary. He chewed her up one side and down the other. It was humiliating; I actually got embarrassed for her. I wanted to tell him to ease up, but I couldn't think how. Then he sent her home."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He fired her?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, just administrative leave. Then he kicked me and Tom out, too. He came by about an hour later to apologize, and assured me I won't be having any more trouble from Rozzi."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So do you think it's settled?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It seems to be. I get the feeling she faces some pretty stern action, if Malcolm hears of her pulling this kind of stunt again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. What about Alex?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I'm sure he's heard about it by now. I guess it can't be good for their relationship. But I don't think he'll blame me; he knows who his mother is."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Katherine, has it occurred to you that Larraine might want to get fired?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, no, it hasn't. I thought she was just stupid. Why would she...of course. Unemployment. Then a lawsuit that the company would much rather settle than see in the courts. Clever. I should mention that to Malcolm. And we'd better start covering our ass."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a good idea."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks for bringing that up. With that in mind, I think we can be sure Rozzi won't be leaving us for quite a while."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I guess not. Well, time's up. See you in three weeks?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. Oh, I want to get Alex something, but I'm drawing a blank. Do you have any ideas?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you want him to have?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yes--the perfect response. Throw me back my own philosophy. I'd like to help him with his art, but he seems to have all the supplies he needs. He's working on a piece for me, did I tell you that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, you didn't."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. It's cute, kind of whimsical. I'll show it to you when I get it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Please do."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Well, I guess that's it. Have a good holiday, and I'll see you in two weeks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good night, Katherine. And thanks for the present."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're welcome. Won't you open it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't want me to wait until Christmas?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I want to see you open it. Do you mind?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not at all. I suppose it's a tie, from the shape and heft of the box."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I couldn't fit a case of brandy in there, that's for sure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's a Dali. I know that image."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, \"The Great Paranoiac.\" I thought it was the perfect tie."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. It will match my Edvard Munch tie."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You don't really! \"The Scream?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A gift from my parents for passing the psychiatric boards. I don't generally wear it around my patients, though."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can imagine. Merry Christmas, Doctor Balis!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Merry Christmas, Katherine. And thanks for the necktie."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of Conversation between Charles Balis, M.D. and Mr. Robin Young respecting Ms. Sharon Lough, Tuesday, July 14, 1998 at 12:00 pm.\nHello. May I help you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis, I'm Rob. I'm Sharon's...uh, we've spoken before on the phone, haven't we? I'm not interrupting a session, am I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, it's fine. What can I do for you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sharon was arrested for possession, possibly with intent. I'm coming back from a criminal attorney's office. Since I was downtown, I thought maybe I could talk to you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Would you like to sit down?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, thanks, I'll just be a minute. Evidently, Sharon took some sort of hallucinogenic made from rye mold. I think she was trying to cultivate psilocybin using the rye as a host."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She must have taken too much--she had a bad reaction. She panicked and called 911. The police came...I wasn't home. I had a staff meeting that ran late that day. They searched the house and found about twenty jars full of this stuff in Sharon's closet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Where is Sharon now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She's still in the hospital. After they let her out, she's going to jail. Then she'll be arraigned and they'll set bail. I'll bail her out if I can. The attorney thinks that the arraignment will probably be on Friday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This must be an ordeal for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're not kidding. The police took the rye mold to a lab, and they are still analyzing it. A colleague of mine gave me the number of a criminal attorney who's had experience with drug offenders. I spoke to her for about two hours today. The attorney said that this substance that Sharon was cultivating might not be classified as an illegal drug. The lab has to determine what it is before Sharon can be charged."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So there's a chance that she won't be charged with anything serious. However, if the lab results determine that she was manufacturing an illegal drug, there's certainly enough of it to warrant a charge of possession with an intent to sell. That's a stiff felony. Sharon could go to prison for the next twenty or thirty years."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How's Sharon doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She seemed dazed last night. I'm not sure she understood what was going on. I don't think she's coming for her session on Friday, even if we can get her out of prison by then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand. But please keep me informed."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I came to see you because...well, I was worried about the legal implications and I was in the area anyway. I think your input would be very valuable now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you came; you did the right thing."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I need to ask you if I can give your number to Sharon's attorney. Since you've been treating Sharon for several months, and she has had some...well, she's rather troubled. Maybe her psychological state could be a mitigating factor if she is charged with a crime. If you could possibly write a case history or...I don't know what the attorney wants exactly. She did say she'd like to talk to you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll be glad to talk to Sharon's attorney..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know about the doctor-patient privilege and all that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon can waive that, if it's necessary to her defense, although that can have a downside, too. Her attorney can advise her about that and I'll be happy to talk to Sharon about it, too. You look tired, Rob. Are you sure you don't want to sit down for a moment?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wouldn't mind sitting down to the first cigar of the day. I don't suppose you could bend the rules a bit?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sorry, I can't do that. The city regulations..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh well, it was worth a try. Can't smoke anywhere in this city. Would you like one? They're Cubans."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, thank you. I don't smoke. Thank you for keeping me informed, Rob."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're welcome. Have a good day, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You too, Rob. Actually, there are a couple of places you can smoke cigars, I think. There's Shanghai 1938 downtown and I think the Park Hyatt has a cigar smoking room, if I'm not mistaken. That's just about 6 blocks from here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "As tempting as that sounds, I think I'll just go home now. Goodbye."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye. Give me a call if anything changes, okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure, Doctor."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 7th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, January 9, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi, Doctor Balis. It's really coming down out there--this rain is just relentless. I feel like I'm in Seattle."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yeah. It's pretty bad. I'll be on vacation the next two weeks. Hopefully, it's better there than here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Lucky you. Didn't you just have two weeks off?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I haven't been seeing a lot of patients over the holidays, but I still had a lot of work to do--dealing with HMO's is never easy. I'm really looking forward to actually getting away--trust me, this vacation is badly needed. So our next session will be Thursday, January 29th at 10 am. Is that all right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jeez, you shrinks have it made. Although it must be hard work having to listen to so many whining neurotics. Yeah, it's okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. How were the holidays?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I guess. The only thing I like about them is that I don't have to work. It wasn't so bad this year."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The holidays trigger depression for many people."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm depressed year-round. Here, you asked me to bring you some doodles. Here they are."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Thanks."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I spent Christmas watching the Sister Wendy Marathon on Public Television with Robin, Charlotte's husband. We spent New Year's Day watching the South Park marathon. It was a real bonding experience. We worked on bad impressions of Sister Wendy and Cartman--the fat kid on South Park. Rob has a great sense of humor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds like you've been spending more time together."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, Charlotte is caught up in her social whirl. She's almost frenetic in her constant activity. It's like she can't stand to have a blank space in her calendar. She has so many exclusive parties and \"oh-so-cool\" people to hang out with, she just doesn't have time for the likes of the \"vanilla\" world. Rob and I are left at home to rot our brains with bad television and eat cheesy poofs."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Vanilla means non-S&M--normal people who have sex in the missionary position the way God intended, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. You seem to have a profound distaste for the S&M community."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Don't get me wrong--I'm all for civil rights and everything. They can beat, electrocute, pierce, and smear fecal matter on each other all they want, but I'd like to be spared the lurid details. Charlotte's very in-your face about her sexuality. I get sick of listening to her go on and on about what she did to whom."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you find it distasteful or merely annoying?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd have to say annoying. It's almost adolescent in a way. Menopause is a sort of mid-life adolescence, accompanied with all the hormonal fluctuations, mood swings, attitude, and irritating behavior."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Charlotte seems to get much of her identity from the S&M community."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's the focus of her life. It's all she talks about. Charlotte's very eager to proclaim S&M as her sexual identity. And she's changed a lot. Rob and I have been talking about that, and he's rather dismayed, not just by her activities but her demeanor, her personality. He compares her to a new sorority girl, with all the name dropping, party-going, and that \"cooler-than-thou\" attitude. She's changed her appearance, too. She now has this bright carroty-orange colored hair and dresses more provocatively than she ever did before."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does her overt sexuality make you uncomfortable?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It just really grosses me out. It's repelling. But maybe I wouldn't feel that way if it weren't for my own sexual hangups. I don't know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean by that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, sexuality is supposed to be healthy, right? And I've been pretty asexual since that incident...you know? The one the year before?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you referring to your suicide attempt?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. What I mean is that sexual desire is supposed to be normal. Everyone is entitled to their sexuality, and it should be a positive thing regardless of age. But it seems that any representation of human sexuality puts me off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. When you see a suggestive advertisement in the newspaper--like some of the Calvin Klein ads, for example--do these images disgust you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. Those images are distant and...I don't know, antiseptic somehow. Sexual images in the media don't really bother me, except to make me self-conscious about my weight."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think you have a weight problem?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've gained a few pounds. It's so embarrassing. Rob really likes to cook."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. So sexually suggestive themes in the media don't repel you, but Charlotte's overt sexuality does. Why is that, you think?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because it's real. It's immediate. It's right in front of me, and it's disgusting. And Charlotte's not exactly a super model. I know it's not politically correct, but she wears some revealing outfits and they aren't...uh, exactly becoming on her. The sight of her sagging breasts falling out of her blouse is enough to make me gag. People stare at her, and it's not a flattering kind of attention. Sometimes, I think she looks grotesque--she's this heavy-set middle-aged woman in clothes which are much too tight, acting like a vamp. It makes me sick."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I already told you, because sex grosses me out. Don't they teach you to listen in shrink school? Maybe you should take notes or something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't be defensive. I am listening, Sharon. What I'm trying to get at is why sex disgusts you so much."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This discussion is starting to disgust me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We don't have to continue this right now, if you'd rather not."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How about those Niners?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This is a serious issue, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm glad that sexuality isn't an important part of my life anymore. My amateur armchair psychologist spin on it is that my sex drive led to my downfall. For me, sex always led to drugs, alcohol, and other compulsive behavior."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Other compulsive behavior? Such as?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I used to be bulimic. I don't want to get into that now. I stopped doing that because some of my back teeth fell out. Anyway, sex is this powerful, destructive monster--like the things that came out of Pandora's Box. I let out a little sexual desire, and then all the other bad things come out--all the addictions and compulsions--and get out of control. I've tried celibacy once before, for two years, and it was an enormous effort. It was like this monster inside me had to come out. And now that I'm a burned-out druggie slut, the beast is gone, and I'm better for it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's an interesting analogy."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not terribly original. It's kind of tired and trite."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's better to live a sexless existence, like a neutered cat. That's what Rob and I are--two neutered cats. We get sensual pleasure out of eating and watching TV. We're simple, happy creatures."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you happy?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, but sometimes I like to pretend I am."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean by that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When I can stop obsessing about all my troubles, I'm kind of happy. I'm content. I think the secret to happiness is self-delusion--divorcing one's self from reality as much as possible."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Quite philosophical."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think it's from spending so much time with Rob. We hardly saw Charlotte over the past few weeks. She just popped in and out when she felt like it. It was weird, you know? She came and went as she pleased and acted like we were guests in her house. It's unfair to Rob--that she can have her cake and eat it, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. And how does that make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I identify with Charlotte's frantic search for this sexual something to fill a void. But I also empathize with Rob, because he is clearly Charlotte's second choice now. She only sees him when she doesn't have a more pressing engagement with her leather-and-rubber clad friends. She's like a man who's left his aging wife for a younger, more attractive woman."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Another interesting analogy."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't belittle me, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Please don't get defensive, Sharon. I wasn't belittling you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sounds like you're making fun of me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It was just a comment. It wasn't intended as an insult."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I suppose I'm too sensitive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is something else bothering you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're staring to remind me of that fag shrink I went to see in Pacific Heights. He was a really smug little prick. And I was so desperate for someone to talk to. I told him...I told him more than I should have. I told him what my father did to me. And he obviously thought of me as nothing more than a bad joke."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with your previous therapist, Sharon. But I'd hoped that you could separate him from me. Not all therapists are alike."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Now you're patronizing me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's not fair, Sharon. And it's not true."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This is a mistake. I don't know what the hell I was thinking. I'm leaving."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please don't...Sharon? Sharon?"
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 8th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi, Doctor Balis. I'm really sorry about our last session. I don't know what got into me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I have to say that I was concerned and a bit puzzled. I wasn't sure why you were so upset."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know either. I've been in a weird mood lately. I've been cranky and irritable. How was your vacation?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Very relaxing. So nothing in particular triggered your mood?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm just a cranky bitch."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That seems a bit of an oversimplification."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I am. I really am a miserable person, Doctor Balis, just like Ebeneezer Scrooge or the Jack Nicholson character in \"As Good As It Gets.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Both those characters achieved redemption."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My father is a miserable person, too. He's in the hospital now. I got a phone call from my sister. She told me he was rushed to the emergency room with chest pains."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When did this happen?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Last week Tuesday. At first, it looked like a heart attack, but it turned out to be only an anxiety attack coupled with some serious indigestion. But my family is pissed at me now because I didn't rush out to his bedside like my sister did. She's only sucking up to him because she wants him to die so she can get the money."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Why didn't you go to visit your father?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It wasn't that big a deal; it wasn't like he was on his deathbed. And even if he was, I wouldn't have wanted to see him anyway. I really, really hate him. I wish he was dead."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Are your mother and sister aware of your feelings towards him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I told him what I thought of him when I moved out. My sister, of course, took that opportunity to tell me once again what a loser I was, how I had no sense of filial responsibility, and how I was just a leech sucking the family dry."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like your sister was angry."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I said, \"Fuck you, fat ass!\" and hung up the phone. My diplomatic skills have never been finer."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You obviously have a great deal of negative emotion towards both your father and your sister."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "They're carbon copies of each other. My mother and Linda used to tell me, \"You're just like your father.\" But it's Linda who resembles him the most. I'm much more quiet and passive, like my mother, except when I'm screaming obscenities into the telephone. My sister is loud and abrasive and critical, like my father. She drinks, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You mentioned previously that your father was abusive and an alcoholic."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. He doesn't deserve to live. He's just a waste of space sucking up resources."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was your father abusive towards your sister and mother as well?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He used to hit my mother and me but not Linda. Linda was a frail and sickly child. She was really small for her age. My parents always gave her preferential treatment; she never had to do chores, or get good grades, or do any of those things. I don't think they ever hit her. They used to hit me when she had done something wrong, because it was my responsibility to look after her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I remember in previous sessions it made you very uncomfortable to talk about your father. How do you feel discussing him now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Angry. I get so angry I can't stand it. I'm glad I don't own a gun, or I'd put a bullet through his head. That must sound pretty sick."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's quite normal for victims of abuse to experience feelings of rage towards their abusors."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wish I could forget what he did to me. I still have nightmares about it. Sometimes, the memories come back, and they're so intense. And I'm full of anger and hate, and there's nothing I can do about it. I get these flashbacks out of the blue, out of nowhere--like when I'm formatting a spreadsheet at work--everything will be just fine, and then bam! Nothing in particular seems to trigger them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe if he died, they would go away."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Could you describe the flashbacks?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I already told you I don't like to talk about it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is it very upsetting for you to discuss it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't see the point. You're acting like you don't believe me, like I'm just crying victim to get attention like the guests on the Jerry Springer Show."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I believe you, Sharon. And I want to help you with this. I know the memories of your father's abuse are a painful issue for you, but I think it would be worthwhile to explore this area. I realize you've had some bad experiences in the past with other therapists, but I hope that you've grown to trust me enough..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My father hit me, you know. He spanked and whipped me when I was bad or, sometimes, for no reason at all. I guess that's not so unconventional. But it wasn't enough for him to beat me physically. He made me do things that were really humiliating. And he loved to tell me over and over again that he was ashamed to have me for a daughter, that I was a mistake and was never meant to be born, that he wished he'd never had me, that I was worthless, and that I'd ruined his life because he had to get married because of me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Is that enough? Do you need to know all the gory details?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You only need to tell me what you feel comfortable with."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I reached puberty early, and he gave me a really bad time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't want to say it. You know what I mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did your father abuse you sexually?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No! Of course not! That's disgusting! I can't believe you said that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. Calm down."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The funny thing is that I'm sure this is the reason why I got interested in S&M."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's quite common as well. Adults who were abused as children frequently reenact the abuse either as victims or as perpetrators."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But that doesn't make any sense. Why would I return to something that was so horrible, something I wanted so much to forget?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Survivors of childhood abuse learn to substitute pain, rejection, and insecurity for love and affection. They've been conditioned to do so by their perpetrators, especially if those perpetrators are their parents. People return to what is familiar. And if a person has a history of abuse, physical and emotional pain would seem normal to that person. Have you had relationships with abusive men?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I'm an asshole-magnet--meaning I attract men who are jerks. I don't know why...no, I take that back. I do know why. But I'm powerless to change it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What makes you say that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's written in the stars, you know? It's part of my genetic code. Some people are destined to be losers and victims."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think by coming here, you show that you're willing to overcome what you perceive as your destiny. You want to stop being a victim, you want to put a stop to your self-destructive behaviors."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think it's hopeless. I'm thirty now. I'm all washed up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Happy birthday. I hardly think your life is over at 30."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm a fossil. I'm old and decrepit. An old geezer. I hate being old. Let's talk about something else."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are things at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte and Rob are not on good terms. They took me out for my birthday, and it went badly. They haven't talked much to each other since."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte wanted to try this new Japanese restaurant. She read about it in the pink section of the Chronicle and heard it was a trendy new eatery. Of course, there was a long line; we waited nearly an hour before we got a table. When we finally sat down, we were crammed in a tiny space. And Charlotte's not exactly petite. Then Rob knocked over his cup of tea, and Charlotte started snapping at him. She was in a really foul mood and was argumentative and irritable."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And since I'm a half-Jap, she wanted me to impress the waitress by ordering in Japanese. The waitress looked Americanized enough to me. I told Charlotte I was a little rusty, and she launched into a tirade--how valuable knowing a foreign language could be, how I could broaden my career opportunities and even work overseas, and blah blah blah. I was relieved when the food came, so Charlotte could stuff her face and leave me alone. You know how to eat sushi, don't you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've never seen San Franciscans so clumsy with Japanese food. Charlotte picked up pieces of futomaki with her fingers, for Christ sake! And she took pickled ginger and placed it on top of the futomaki--like she was putting cheese on a cracker--and then slopped soy sauce all over it and ate it that way! She couldn't stuff that whole mess into her gaping maw, so she tried to eat it in bites and got rice all over the table. It was disgusting."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I think you might be over reacting a bit to her..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When the miso soup came, Charlotte asked for a spoon. A spoon! She pantomimed spooning soup in to her mouth for the waitress, while saying loudly, \"You know, spoon!\" That was pretty condescending; the waitress' English was just fine. Charlotte must subscribe to the belief that Asians can understand English only if it is spoken loudly and slowly and with appropriate hand gestures. I don't know why it bothered me so much. I was embarrassed, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Anyway, Charlotte nagged and complained throughout dinner. She sent back her food twice--she's a picky eater. And she complained all the way home. When we got home, I went to my room, while she started on Rob. He's usually pretty quiet, but after a while, he started yelling back. I couldn't hear much, but I heard my name come up a few times. I heard a door slam when Charlotte left."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob didn't mention it the next day. He gave me a new coat, though. He said it was from him and Charlotte for my birthday. It was really nice--a London Fog. I haven't had a new coat in years."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you and Rob getting along?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We're both painfully shy, antisocial, and neurotic--we get along fine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. You've talked about some difficult subjects today. How do you feel now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm all right. I feel a little weird about it. It still bothers me, kind of..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What bothers you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That you know so much. That you might tell the people that I work with about my sordid past."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know that won't happen"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, well...I'm a little paranoid."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad that you were willing to take this step, Sharon. It shows that you're making progress."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, but I'm still a loser--a thirty-year-old loser."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't agree with your self-assessment. In my professional opinion, it's a little too soon to diagnose yourself as a \"loser,\" even if you've reached the ripe old age of thirty. However, I understand that there are issues you want to work on--that's what brought you to therapy. Change doesn't take place immediately. Growth is a gradual process."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, Doctor. See you next week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 9th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. How are you today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not so good. My ferret died."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh, I'm very sorry. How did it happen?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I used to let Harriet run around in the garage while I did laundry. Charlotte came by unexpectedly. She and Rob had a fight last week, so they haven't been speaking. She used her garage-door opener to get into the house and left the door open. I guess Harriet must have gotten out or maybe the dog came in. I was in the house when it happened. The neighbor's dog got hold of Harriet somehow. When I talked to them later, they said they found the remains of some small animal in their yard. I was too upset to look. I guess its my fault really, though I was pretty upset with Charlotte."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like an accident. Why do you blame yourself?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If I'd been out there, this wouldn't have happened. A part of me resents Charlotte for coming and going as she pleases. But that doesn't make sense--it's her house. She didn't even seem to care when I told her what happened. Charlotte only came by to borrow the bread-maker. I was pretty hysterical--I was sobbing and ranting. I think she just wanted to get away from me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. It's hard to lose..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I feel like a bad parent. I'm a bad pet owner. I think someone like me doesn't deserve to live. I'm a total failure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you're being very hard on yourself."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My life is like some cruel joke by a malevolent deity. I think if there is a god, he wouldn't be a big muscular guy with a white beard throwing lightning bolts--like Zeus or the god of the Old Testament. God would definitely be a woman, most likely a prepubescent girl--spoiled and self-absorbed--who enjoys petty cruelties."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This would explain a lot of inconsistencies."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You sound very depressed."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, what else is new? And it doesn't help that I hate my job. And I've been having...uh, female trouble."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean by that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I don't want to gross you out with the lurid details. I'd like to save that for my gynecologist. I've been bleeding continuously for a little over two weeks. At first, it was just an irregular menstrual period--I've had those before--but the bleeding won't stop. And I've also been getting these dizzy spells--all of a sudden, I get weak and nauseous. Sometimes, I get these splitting, blinding headaches. Maybe it's early menopause."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is there any chance you could be pregnant?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, you have to have sex to get pregnant."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you made an appointment with your OB/GYN?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I keep hoping it would go away."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think it would be a good idea for you to see your doctor right away, just to rule out something serious."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't really care if it is. Maybe I have an ovarian cancer. That's how my grandmother died. My mother had to have a hysterectomy. It must run in the family."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Then you should definitely see a doctor as soon as possible. This is not something you just want to wait on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't really care if I die. I'm not motivated enough to actually buy a gun, or patient enough to hoard medication. I'm not really suicidal. But it would be okay if I were to be hit by a speeding bus, or a large hailstone were to drop on my head."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Cancer really wouldn't be such a bad way to go. It's kind of romantic and tragic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Death by cancer is slow and painful--hardly the stuff of lyric poetry."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Would you miss me if I were dead?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes. Sharon, I don't want any of my patients to die. I'm very concerned for your welfare. I'm concerned that your depression will lead you to inaction with regard to this matter, and I think that's highly self-destructive. Please see your doctor."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't cancer patients get really thin? Just think, I could fit into my jeans again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's not funny, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What if I have AIDS? That would be even worse. It's considered quite chic in San Francisco to have AIDS. I could get free food and t-shirts and everything."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is there a chance that you might be HIV-positive?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I was tested a few years ago--when I was sleeping around a lot--and I was negative."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Perhaps it would be a good idea to get tested again, and not only for HIV."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I want to let nature take its course."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why do you feel this way?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've already told you--I'm a miserable person. I'm a mishap, a system error. I can't even take care of a fucking ferret. What a loser!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think some of your feelings of depression might be attributed to your physical condition, which is why it is important that you get immediate medical attention."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, jeez..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon? Sharon, what's the matter?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm dizzy. I don't feel so good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you need to lie down?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I just feel weak..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Put on your coat. I'm going to take you to the Emergency Room."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No! No, I just need to go home. I'll make a doctor's appointment for tomorrow, I promise. Please, I just want to go home. I can't handle waiting four hours in E.R. right now. I'll go home and lie down, and I'll call an OB/GYN tomorrow, okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. Do you feel well enough to drive home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I took the bus."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Let me call you a cab."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's okay, I can't afford..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, no. Oh my god, I'm so sorry."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's all right, Sharon. Here, use the wastebasket."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll clean this up..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's all right. The janitor will take care of it. I'll call you a cab. Do you need a glass of water?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I'm okay. Thanks, Doctor Balis. If you don't mind, I'll wait for it downstairs--I need some fresh air."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure. Please call me and let me know what's wrong with you. Okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Goodbye, Doctor Balis."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 41st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, February 19, 1999 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. You look tired."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Your powers of perception never fail to astound me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you all right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What's the clinical definition of \"all right?\" When a patient ends her therapy, do you say \"she's all right now\" on your claim forms to CalaCare HMO?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do any of your patients successfully complete therapy? You probably prey on their weaknesses to keep them coming back for more--all the better to pay off your student loans..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's the matter, Sharon? You look like you haven't slept in a few days."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's because I haven't. Thanks for not mentioning my body odor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I know, it's pretty bad. I try to clean up in public restrooms, but there's not much I can do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did Charlotte throw you out of the house?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You really are a brilliant diagnostician, Doctor. You're a Ph.D. who really earned your letters."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I take it that means yes. What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob is in the hospital again. He was admitted last week with severe abdominal pains. He's in ICU, and they won't let me see him since I'm not a family member. Charlotte can see him because she's technically still his wife--the divorce isn't final yet. She won't authorize me as a visitor. I'm just the ho as far as society's concerned. I don't have any status."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Unfortunately, many hospitals have that policy when it comes to patients in the intensive care ward."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It doesn't make sense, especially today. Everybody's divorced, or cohabiting, or gay. The people you're closest to aren't necessarily related to you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel close to Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I care more about him than that bloodsucking breed-sow. It makes me sick, the way she keeps a vigil at his bedside. I saw her at the hospital, she was actually praying! Maybe she was invoking the goddess, asking to be included in Rob's will. The only reason she's doing it is because she thrives on playing the martyr. I can't stand her amateur theatrics--all that sobbing and sniveling. I bet it makes Rob even sicker having to listen to her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you know what's wrong with Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, no one will give me any information. They won't even let me talk to him on the phone. And when I got home from the hospital, Charlotte was there and told me to leave. I told her to go fuck herself. The next day, when I came home from work, all the locks were changed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did you do then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I took a rock from the yard and broke a window in the kitchen. She saw me as I crawled in and threatened to call the police. I picked up a big piece of glass from the floor, backed her up against the wall, and said I would cut her throat if she didn't put the phone down. I must have looked deranged, because she did what I wanted. I told her to sit her fat ass down so I could get a few things, then I left."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Where are you staying now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "In my car. I parked it along Fulton Street, next to the park. A lot of car-dwellers hang out there. I wish I bought a Buick instead of an econo-box. My back hurts from being so cramped."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is there anyone you can stay with?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If there were, do you think I'd be living in my car?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you tried finding a shelter?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why? So I can wait in line all day for the privilege of spending the night next to smelly, lice-ridden alcoholics and drug addicts who talk to themselves? I can't do that--I have to work. I'm almost all out of money now. I'm hoping with my next check from SII, I'll be able to get a cheap apartment or maybe a room at a residential hotel. But I'll have to wait another week for that, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It must be difficult to report to work..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Your brilliance knows no bounds, Doctor Balis. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. The hardest part is trying to be presentable. I didn't bring that many work clothes, and it's difficult to go to the laundry more than a few times a week. One of the assholes in marketing--this big hairy wop--made a comment about my fashion sense...or lack thereof. I hate the way people look at me downtown. Everyone else looks so perfect in their suits and ironed shirts. But no matter what I do, I can't stay clean, and all my clothes get wrinkled."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Where do you shower?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know I stink, Doctor, you don't have to rub my face in it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I didn't say..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I haven't taken a real shower in a while. I thought about using the ones at Ocean Beach, but the fog comes in, and it's freezing cold by the time I get off work. It's hard to keep warm. I've been using those public pay-toilets instead--the ones in the green kiosks that cost a quarter. I get twenty minutes for every quarter, that's almost enough time to clean myself up. It's hard to wash your hair in those little sinks, though. It's a good thing I cut my hair. I heard those public toilets self-clean. Maybe I should stay in there past the 20-minute limit and get myself hosed down along with the bathroom floor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wouldn't advise that, Sharon. You might be sprayed with industrial-strength cleaning solvents."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I'd be disinfected, pine-scented, and fresh smelling, too. Maybe men would find me more attractive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You could try going to a shelter and asking to use their shower facilities. If you explained your situation, they might understand."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. Homeless people are kind of territorial, and shelters creep me out. The ones who park along Fulton Street didn't take kindly to a new person joining their ranks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been harassed?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not anything serious, just people looking in my car windows and making rude remarks. I feel like I'm trapped in someone else's nightmare."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Sounds like you've still got that sore throat."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I can't shake this cold. I hack and wheeze all the time. That's part of the reason why I have trouble sleeping. I can hear the whistle in my throat as I try to sleep. I'm hoping to develop a sexy, throaty voice like Lauren Bacall. Maybe I could get a job doing phone sex."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you seen a doctor about your cough?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I don't want to take the time off work. I've used up all my sick leave already, and I've missed a lot of days. I almost didn't come here to see you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you did. Sharon, I'm concerned about your health. You're clearly at risk for getting pneumonia or hypothermia..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What the fuck do you want me to do about it? Where else am I going to go?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Perhaps you could talk to Charlotte, try to reason with her."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How about your sister?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No way! Remember what she said when my landlord threw me out on those bullshit child-molestation charges? She said, \"I told you to stay away from those kids.\" I don't want to give her the satisfaction of another \"I told you so.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Are you getting enough to eat? You look like you're losing weight."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, all my life I've wanted that fashionable, heroin-addicted waif look. I just haven't had much of an appetite lately."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You need to eat, Sharon, especially with that cold. You can go to a soup kitchen if necessary. I believe Saint Anthony's prepares hot meals on a daily basis at no charge."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't deal with all those people looking at me like I don't belong there. I'm not dirty and disgusting enough to look like a true homeless person, but I'm not clean enough to blend into corporate America. I'm always a misfit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Are you able to keep warm at night?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wear a couple of layers and use garbage bags I steal from work. It's still chilly, but it's the best I can do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Perhaps you could keep your car running and turn on the heater."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't do that. I have a leaky radiator or something--if I let the engine idle, my car will become a miniature gas-chamber on wheels. But that's not such a bad idea if I get desperate enough. Hey, that's an idea for Doctor Kervorkian--mini-suicide chambers on wheels. He could start a national chain providing assisted suicide on delivery. Depressed people could call 1-800-SUICIDE, and instead of a pimply-faced teenager bringing pizza to your door, he'd be packing you into a Ford Escort with the windows rolled up. I should give Doctor Kervorkian a call, we can haggle over who gets the patent. I wonder if he's allowed to get incoming phone calls in jail."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you feeling suicidal, Sharon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not exactly singing show tunes and skipping down the street with all the birds and animals in the forest following me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I need you to be honest with me, Sharon. If you're thinking of hurting yourself, I can arrange to have you hospitalized. At least, that would give you time to recover from your cold, and you'll have a warm bed to sleep in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not that crazy, yet. Besides, I don't want to jeopardize my job any more than I already have. I've taken more time off than almost anyone else at SII. If I lose my job, I'm totally fucked--you can have me committed then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Perhaps if you talked to your supervisor and..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I'm not telling anyone at SII. I don't want people snickering at me behind my back or feeling sorry for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm very concerned for your health and safety, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If I can stick it out for one more week. I'll be okay. Next week, I'll get my check, and then I'll find a place to live."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. If you change your mind, call me, I mean it. I'm here to help you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, our time is up. Take care, Sharon. I'll see you next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Bye."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 10th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Thursday, March 5, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. How are you feeling?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not too bad, I guess, considering."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you have the laparoscopy as scheduled?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I went through with it. I'm glad it's over. I have a follow up appointment in two weeks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's good. Are you still having pain?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Some. I'm still pissed that they wouldn't give me any cool drugs. Laparoscopy is considered a major surgery. Why couldn't they have given me a prescription for pain killers?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem very eager to obtain a prescription."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You would too if you had your nads ripped off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, maybe that's a little extreme. I've been feeling really rotten lately. Between work, my female trouble, and the banality and emptiness of my existence...well, I'm not exactly doing cartwheels."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've had a rash of stressful situations lately."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bad things happen to bad people."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Explain what you mean by that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I see it as karmic retribution."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Retribution for what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. The sins I committed in my past life. There must be some reason why I am what I am."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Last week, you mentioned that you would welcome an early death. Have you had any thoughts about taking you're own life again?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I distinctly remember saying that I was too lazy and passive to actually do anything. So you can't say I'm a suicide risk and lock me up forever in a rubber room, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Given your history, I would be remiss in my duties as a therapist if I did not ask you that question. You need to be honest with yourself, Sharon. Do you feel you're at risk?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I really don't. I don't have the energy to actually carry it out. I get some comfort by thinking about it, though. Like it's always there for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How do you feel now compared to how you felt before your attempt last year?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Last year, I felt frantic and desperate. Now, I just feel numb, like I don't really care about anything. I'm not really depressed, though I'm so used to feeling down that I can't really tell any more."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "About a month ago, you gave me a copy of a poem delineating various suicide methods. If you were to formulate a plan to take your own life, what would it be?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jeez, who are you, Kenneth Starr? I'm starting to feel like I'm being interrogated in front of the Grand Jury. You're starting to sound like the Special Prosecutor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm just concerned about you. You've been expressing feelings like those of people who are deeply depressed and even suicidal."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm lazy and suicidal."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There aren't any easy methods. Remember that book, \"Final Exit?\" It detailed suicide methods for elderly people who were seriously ill. It stirred up all this controversy; the media made it seem like everyone who read that book would try to kill themselves. What's funny is that the methods detailed in \"Final Exit\" aren't exactly user friendly; you have to have access to prescription drugs and the patience to hoard them. That's out of reach for an ordinary person like me. And that was supposed to be the point of the poem I gave you--it's just easier to let life take its course."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That can be a very self-destructive point of view."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I'm not going to kill myself, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm relieved to hear that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you believe in destiny?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Destiny? Why do you ask?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It seems that some people are destined for greatness, like Stephen Hawking or John F. Kennedy. Or Monica Lewinsky."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess Monica was destined more for notoriety."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see your point."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When I was watching all the tabloid coverage of the presidential sex scandal, it seemed that Monica Lewinsky was programmed to be what she was. Her mother was a social climber, her parents went through a bad divorce, her father was critical and distant. You know that saying, \"You are the sum total of your experiences?\" Maybe I was destined to fail so that I could be the bad example. I was placed here so overbearing maternal types could point at me and say, \"Don't be like her.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a rather negative view of yourself."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I feel so weary of life. I don't even want to get up in the morning. I hate my job, my pet ferret is dead, I have no reason to live."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You mentioned earlier that you loathe working for SII."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been demoted. When I came back after being out for the surgery, my boss told me to report to Human Resources. I'm doing clerical work--filing and sorting stuff. Ordinarily, I'd be angry and frustrated because I worked so hard in that department. But now, I'm just don't care any more. I don't care about the demotion from secretary to clerk, about the cut in pay, about the fact that I do grunt work for this monstrously obese woman who eats M&M's all day. She makes me think of a whale engulfing swarms of multi-colored plankton."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm beginning to think my boss planned this just to torment me. He has me working for the most repulsive person at SII. I always knew he had it in for me. Maybe this is a way of getting me to quit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you might be reading too much into this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You can never be too paranoid, you know? Especially when you're working for a corporation."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe it's the corporate environment that's getting to me. I wish I could get paid for watching television. Maybe I could get disability? I'd have to be certifiably nuts first. I've always envied people who were seriously mentally ill, like paranoid schizophrenics or manic depressives. I wish I had a bipolar disorder instead of merely being dysthymic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Can you think of any constructive things you could do to make your life more enjoyable?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've tried all that, Doctor. I've tried positive thinking, meditation, pop psychology. I'm a hopeless case."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you come to my office every week. That must mean there's a glimmer of hope."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I need a fairy godmother not a psychotherapist."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I need someone who can wave a magic wand and turn my life around."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure many psychotherapy patients feel the same way. How is your home situation?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's been kind of weird. Charlotte comes around during the day when her husband isn't home. During the week that I was out, I realized that she's been...uh, entertaining there."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you mean she is carrying on an affair?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Something like that. I locked myself in my bedroom. I don't think she knew I was home. It was uncomfortable. They were in the room right next to mine, and I could hear what was going on."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know if Rob, her husband, knows what she's doing. She must take long lunches at work and then come to the house for afternoon trysts."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel you're being disloyal to Rob by not telling him about his wife's activities?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yes, though they've lived apart for some time, and he probably suspects she hasn't been celibate. It's pretty seamy, though, the way she's fucking some stranger in her own marital bed. It's almost as though she wants to flaunt it, like she wants to get caught. I guess I'm not as liberated as I thought."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How have you been getting along with Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't see him much. I get along best with people I don't have to come in contact with."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Is our time up? I feel like I've been talking forever."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We still have a few more minutes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Can I go? I'm all talked out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. I'll see you next week. Right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon. Try to take care of yourself. And give me a call, especially if you feel anything is overwhelming you, okay?"
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 11th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, March 27, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened to you these last few weeks?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I'm sorry, Doctor. I've been really sick. I had a bad cold, and it turned into bronchitis. I was really out of it, I could barely get out of bed. I completely forgot about calling you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sorry you've been sick. How are you feeling now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Still a little ragged, but not as bad as I was."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There's been a nasty bug going around."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I don't mind it so much, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What makes you say that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, these past few weeks, I've been focusing on the fact that I feel rotten rather than all my other problems. I think I might have even lost a few pounds. It's worth it to get sick, if it's coupled with weight loss."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I used to wish I would get pneumonia, or some other terrible illness, just to lose weight. Pretty silly, huh?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think you have a weight problem?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have no other diversions, all I have is food. Food is the last refuge of the compulsive-addictive personality. Food and cold medicine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What kind of cold medicine have you been taking?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I went to the doctor and got a prescription for that codeine cough syrup. It's really potent. I think I'll start carrying it around in a flask."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Some cold medicines can be high in alcohol content. I'd recommend that you watch the dosage and stay away from recreational alcohol while you're taking your medicine. Have you been taking the Prozac?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I've been so doped up lately, I thought it would be a bad idea. I didn't want to go postal and machine-gun everyone in my workplace. I'm just kidding when I say that; don't put it in my file."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, if you ever have questions about whether you should or should not take Prozac, I would be happy to answer them. Except for possible sleep disturbances, Prozac is fairly safe with over-the-counter cold medications."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How about street drugs?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been using illegal drugs?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got stoned a few weeks ago. Maybe that's why I got sick. If I believed in god, I'd say it was divine retribution."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How did you obtain the drugs?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If you go to the right part of the city, you don't even have to get out of your car. You just drive up to the street corner to the enterprising young man in baggy pants, tell him what you want, and give him your money."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's hardly a safe thing to do--both the drug use and the driving to bad neighborhoods to get it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Well, sometimes, you just got to live dangerously."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know how I feel about illegal drugs, Sharon. And especially considering your history, I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's the only thing that brings me any happiness. Have you heard of Paul Prudhomme?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The chef? Yes, I have. But don't try to change the subject."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not trying to change the subject. I have a point here. No, wait. Now I can't remember. See what happens when you smoke marijuana?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not very funny."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What I was going to say is Paul Prudhomme pioneered this very rich, spicy, and high-calorie style of Cajun cooking. And he's a pretty big guy, he's definitely got a weight problem. He went on a diet a few years ago and lost some weight. And now he came out with a \"light\" cookbook. And I thought it was terrible. The recipes weren't as good. And he didn't look good, you know? It was like his soul had been taken away, like all the life had been drained from him. Here was someone who clearly loved food. You could argue he loved food to a point where it was unhealthy. But convert him to a low-fat diet, and you take an essential part of him away. I've seen the before and after pictures, and I like him better fatter. He seemed happier that way, even if he was 500 pounds."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How does this relate to your drug use?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm happiest when I am fucked up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Wasn't it your drug use that led to your mental breakdown and hospitalization a year ago? Are you prepared to go through that again?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, of course I don't want that. But I'm starting to think it's inevitable. It's my destiny."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Many people who have self-destructive habits are able to modify their behavior so it is no longer life-threatening. You can argue that they might not be as happy or as creative. But they usually they live healthier and longer lives. For instance, a person with a tendency towards obesity who has a passion for cooking may never be thin or even reach normal weight. But by making modifications to his diet and lifestyle, he could avoid a host of physical problems, such as heart disease and high blood pressure. Being physically healthy can contribute to your overall sense of well being. The other problem with drug use is that they affect the dopamine levels in your brain. That is the chemical that is responsible for pleasure..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hey, hey, hey--I like being stoned."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Please be serious, Sharon. As I was saying, drugs like cocaine, heroin, and marijuana artificially increase the levels of dopamine in your brain."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sounds like a good thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The effect is that you feel happier, or more in control, or wittier..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's what I'm going for, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The problem is that there is just so much dopamine per lifetime per person. Once used up, it's gone. And the result is that that person is no longer capable of experiencing pleasure. It's like your whole capacity for pleasure could either be spread evenly over a life time of experiences, or blown in a few weekends of drug use."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. So if one thinks that they are not going to live for a very long time..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The brain of the person addicted to drugs is permanently altered. I don't want you to..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not really planning of blowing my brains out, Doctor. I just sometimes need to..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel you need drugs as a form of escape?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why is that? You're a doctor, you should know. Because life sucks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Could you be more specific?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My job. My home life. But you don't want to hear about the boring stuff."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You had mentioned being unhappy with your job."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's not unbearable. I don't have as much pressure now, that I've been demoted to lowly flunky. What I do is very dull and tedious. And it seems pretty meaningless. For a while, I was really upset that I was demoted, but now I just don't care. Sometimes, when I think about how hard I worked for those stupid engineers, I feel an occasional surge of anger. Now I don't even try anymore. Maybe I'll be fired, or laid off, and then I can collect unemployment."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. How are things at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte and Rob are talking about getting a divorce. It's something they've discussed before. Maybe with Charlotte's extracurricular activities coming to light, they might actually mean it this time. Rob is acting like the walking wounded, moping like a zombie. We make a great pair."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Do you identify with Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's loser and a reject--we're meant for each other."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I told him to keep his distance because I have the plague. He seemed a little miffed, but he saw how sick I was and left me alone. That's another great thing about getting sick--it's nice not to have the pressure to be social. I don't think I really need other people. Maybe Rob and I are a fundamentally anti-social subspecies of human beings--like lawyers, real estate brokers, and technical writers."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. You think Rob is antisocial?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not as much as I am. But he seems to prefer staying home, and he expresses the same dread that I do when faced with social situations. It's so much work to be social, to make conversation."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Do you still feel that same sense of dread before our weekly sessions?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I've gotten used to them, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How does it feel to come here after a long absence? It's been two weeks."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's a relief, really."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. I'm glad to hear that. Do you think you can stay off drugs for long enough to give Prozac a try?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't really want to."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Just give it a try, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. See you next week, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right. Goodbye, Sharon."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 12th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, April 3, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHi, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Sharon. What's going on? That smell--have you been smoking pot? Don't tell me you're under the influence!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay then, I'll lie. I'm sober as a goat...I mean judge...or something. Jeez, I'm such a bad liar. I have to learn how to maintain."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's the only thing that keeps me going."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I don't...have you been going to work stoned?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I better not answer that. I invoke my Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This is serious, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You'll get me fired."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You'll get yourself fired if you get caught."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't stand going to work sober. I can't even face the morning commute."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's life. Life and work. It's all too overwhelming. I'm not cut out for this life. I'm not even ambitious. I just want to be another lemming--another nondescript nobody. And I can't even accomplish that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There are better ways of coping with life's pressures. The last time you took this route, you ended up in the hospital. You yourself said it was one of the worst experiences of your life."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe I can die of an overdose and spare myself the agony."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "People rarely overdose on marijuana. Are you using any harder drugs?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You mean Prozac?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been taking it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I tried it for a few days. It made me nervous and sick. I'd much rather get stoned."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It takes about a week for Prozac to begin to work. There are some initial reactions to it, but they tend to go away. You have to give it a try, Sharon. If you don't want to get well, there's not much I can do for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Gee, now I don't feel so good. You're bailing on me, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm doing no such thing. You're bailing on yourself, Sharon. We won't progress in the work we do here if you persist in using illegal drugs."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Nag, nag, nag."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How often have you been smoking marijuana?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A few days a week, except for the days I took Prozac. I usually smoke it before I get ready to go to work."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You arrive at the office under the influence?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Just in the morning. Towards the afternoon, it wears off, and I start to get a headache."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not surprised."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think it's affecting my short-term memory, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Marijuana will do that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe if I volunteer for one of those cannabis clubs, I'll be able to get high for free."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I seriously doubt that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're not helping me out here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm trying."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You won't give me anything good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I am not going to \"help you out\" by supplying you with illegal drugs."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Just legal ones."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you're going to abuse drugs on your own time, that's your choice. But don't come to my office stoned again. I mean it, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How is the situation at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob and I have, uh...reached a new level."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You and Rob are sleeping together?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't sound so disapproving."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not passing judgment. I'm surprised, though. You once expressed a great distaste for any form of sexuality."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know. I don't really care about it anymore. I don't have any feelings one way or another."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you sure of that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. And don't give me that denial psycho-babble horse shit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When did this start?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "About a week ago. It's really no big deal."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You brought it up. Sounds like you have some positive feelings about this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have neutral feelings about it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. How did this happen?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I've been really broke. I don't make as much money now, and since the surgery, I've had a lot of doctor bills. The HMO only paid for part of it. And he's been so down in the dumps lately, I thought it was the least I could do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you consider sex with Rob as a form of trade or barter?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What's wrong with that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's not the healthiest reason for having sex. And your sexual health before this was fragile at best."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's the oldest form of trade for services. A few months ago, I heard a news report about some rural areas of Africa. They said that water is so scarce there, women are forced to offer sex to get drinking water. It's one of those unpleasant facts of life. I don't see any point in moralizing about it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Did you enjoy sex with Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It wasn't as repulsive and disgusting as I thought it would be. It was okay. I didn't feel degraded or anything."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you feel afterward?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like getting stoned."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How does it compare with your other experiences?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're starting to sound like a real perv, Doc."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's okay, I'm just kidding. Actually, I'm kind of glad that it happened. Now, I'll have something interesting to talk about during our sessions. I must be one of your dullest clients. So, back to sex. It was kind of strange, because I hadn't done it in so long. It didn't take that long. And we didn't engage in any pyrotechnics or acrobatics."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you have any romantic feelings for Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I like him well enough. But I'm not getting all mushy over him, if that's what you mean. I'm not attracted to him. Maybe if I felt some physical attraction, an emotional attachment would follow."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Does that make me shallow?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does Charlotte know about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I don't think she'd approve. I feel kind of bad about that--not so much about what I did, but about the possibility of getting caught."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm a stoner and a slut. A total sleaze-ball. Do you think less of me, Doctor?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sex is a strange thing, isn't it? it seems like it should be an unnatural act. I mean, even the normal stuff seems strange."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Two people in these awkward positions grunting and sweating. It's so bizarre. Compared to sexual intercourse, a game of twister seems almost natural."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What goes through your mind when you have sex with Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mostly I try to gauge where he's at and how soon he'll be finished."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like it was unpleasant for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not unpleasant. It's just one of those things that you have to do. It's like cleaning the toilet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Interesting analogy. Do you feel you have to have sex with Rob? That it's part of your financial obligation to him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I don't have to, but it seems appropriate. It did make him feel better. He seemed in better spirits the next day. It seems to be more important for men to get laid than for women, even for men who aren't very sexual."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Like Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Charlotte made it sound like he was practically a eunuch."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I take it he's not."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe I've opened the floodgates. He's not like a caveman, clubbing me over the head and dragging me to his lair by my hair; though he does leave animal carcasses in front of my cave door. He cooks and takes me out to dinner a lot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Would you say that Rob does have a significant libido?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess. Too bad he's not a premature ejaculator--it would be over faster."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you using birth control?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, no."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, with all the problems I've been having, I'm hardly fertile. And Rob had a vasectomy years ago."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I would strongly recommend that you practice safe sex."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We tried at first. Rob had a lot of trouble with condoms. He kept fumbling and losing his erection. They were uncomfortable for me, too; they would roll off halfway and end up lost inside me. So after a while, we gave up. Older men seem to have trouble using condoms for some reason, or so I've found."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Switch brands. You shouldn't be having those kinds of problems. How old is Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's fifty-two. He's old enough to be my father. In fact, he has a daughter about my age. She's from his first marriage."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Have many of your partners been older men?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A few. But I don't feel like I'm searching for a father figure or anything. At least not anymore."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Is our time up yet? I really should be going."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, it is getting late. Sharon, I really need you to try Prozac and continue taking it as directed for at least a month. Then, if you feel like you're still having problems with it, we can try something else. And you need to try and stay off the pot. I never want to see you here stoned again."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't think you'd get so upset."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd like you to be relatively clear-minded when you come here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All right. I'll be good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And Prozac?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll try."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay. Did you drive here? Do I need to call you a cab?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I took the bus. I'll be okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right. Have a good weekend, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thanks, Doctor Balis."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 13th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, April 17, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHi, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Sharon. How are you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You missed a few sessions. Have you been feeling okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, there's been a bug going around."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How are you and Rob getting along?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I haven't seen him for a while."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You haven't? Haven't you been living together?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not home much. Neither is he."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are things at work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. Okay, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You mentioned earlier that you were unhappy with your job at SII."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, well, who isn't?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, when was the last time you reported to work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh. Who tipped you off?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That doesn't matter."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, it does."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you haven't reported to work in over a week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Has it been that long?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm enjoying the life of the leisure class."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you sure you can afford to do this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I don't care, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This is serious, Sharon. You could jeopardize your job."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I already have. Que sera sera."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. You don't seem to understand the consequence of your actions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Are you upset because this session isn't covered? Are you afraid that I won't pay up?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Money isn't the issue here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You better not say that--they'll take away your license to practice."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Funny. Don't worry, you're insurance isn't immediately canceled when you lose your job."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No wonder you're acting so concerned."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This is not about your insurance coverage. I'm concerned about you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And you call yourself a doctor?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, are you under the influence?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Under the influence of what?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't play games with me. Have you been using drugs? Are you high right now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What if I say yes? Are you going to throw me out of your office? You'll accept someone who can't pay, but you'll throw out someone who can just because she's stoned? That's not very compassionate, Doc. You should demonstrate your concern by giving me a hug or buying me a cookie or something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I made it clear the last session that you were not to come here drugged again."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I'm not quite as high as I was last time. I haven't been smoking weed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What have you been smoking? Have you been using stronger substances?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, why?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you being completely honest with me?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, why?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This session isn't going to be productive for either of us if you persist in being evasive."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was a matter of necessity."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What was a matter of necessity?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I couldn't very well smoke dope in the building. I tried using this brownie recipe I found on the web, but you don't get a lot of bang for your buck. At least I can never get that marijuana brownie to turn out right. I just don't have the knack. Some people can make good marijuana brownies, but not me. Mine always end up looking like chunks of horse shit with bits of green plant matter in them. And they don't taste so hot either. And they don't really get me high. Anyway, I can't stand facing life without getting baked, so I had to switch to something else; something more discreet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you using intravenous drugs?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I only do it because with my numerous allergies it's hard for me to snort powder. I end up sneezing it all up. But I don't do that much. I'm really not using that much."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you've been shooting up. What are you using? Methamphetamine? Cocaine? Heroin?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, no, and yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And how do you plan to support your habit without a job?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I have a tax refund coming."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's hardly enough to support a growing drug habit."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, it's almost like having a child."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You do realize that your habit is going to grow?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Planning ahead isn't really part of that glamorous dope-addict lifestyle. We're improvisationalists, like jazz musicians. It's very Zen."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can romanticize your drug addiction all you want, but you and I both know where this will lead."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you want to die, Sharon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're asking the wrong person. Do you know how most people fantasize about winning the lottery someday and all the things they will be able to buy with their winnings? My daydreams always revolve around dying suddenly and unexpectedly--a tragic accident. I'd be hit by an oncoming bus, or a drunk driver. Or better yet, I'd die heroically, like that woman in Arkansas who stepped in the path of a bullet to save the life of a child. That way, everyone would remember me fondly, and my life would not be such a waste."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But do you want to die the way most junkies die? There's nothing heroic or romantic about that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think it would be best for you to get immediate care. Your insurance does provide treatment for substance abuse. I'd strongly recommend that you take advantage of it while you still can."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you mean I should commit myself to another loony bin?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This won't be a psychiatric ward. You would be admitted into a substance abuse treatment center, a place specifically designed to treat alcoholics and drug addicts."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You mean a prison, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You won't be able to come and go as you please, but the facilities are very nice, very well maintained, and visitors are allowed. This would be a chance to give yourself a rest, Sharon, and to deal with the issues that led you to drug use."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A nice prison--a touchy-feely, soft and mushy, new age-type institution, where the cells are padded with organic cotton and the inmates weave their own restraints in arts-and-crafts class."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Give it a try, Sharon. Try it for a week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Will they make me take mud baths and sit in smelly sawdust?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly, but no."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do I have to hug the other inmates?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not if you don't want to."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sounds like a real picnic. Is there cable?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I could give them a call and check."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why can't I just continue seeing you? You're so dedicated, and you don't care at all about money--a doctor completely devoted to the well-being of his patients."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Frankly, I don't think you're making any progress. In fact, you've regressed into the very behavior that led you to a mental breakdown a year ago. If you continue to use drugs and arrive here under the influence of drugs, I will have to seriously consider whether I'm the right therapist for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're dumping me. I can't believe it. That's the ultimate rejection--my shrink dumped me. It's not like I've been unfaithful. I haven't seen any other shrinks. Sometimes, I listen to Doctor Laura Schlesinger on the radio. But she's not really a shrink, so that doesn't count, does it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not dumping you. I'm just letting you know that there are limits. In my role as a therapist, I have the right to make certain demands on my patients. I've asked you to refrain from drug use before your sessions. This is not unreasonable. If you can't do even that..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought you were the one thing I could count on. The one constant in my life. I've always looked forward to coming here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to hear that, Sharon. I'd like to continue seeing you. But unless you're willing to undergo treatment for your addiction, I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So you're going to have me committed. This is the one thing I was afraid of, you know? This is one of the reasons why I didn't want to see a shrink again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't want to commit you, Sharon. I'd like you to check in to a substance abuse treatment center voluntarily. And that's quite different from being sent to a mental hospital involuntarily."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, even if I did agree to do it, it won't do any good. When I was in the psycho ward, after I got over the initial shock of being imprisoned, I only went along with what those fucking shrinks and doctors wanted me to do so I could get out. I parroted all the right platitudes, made those stupid fucking arts and crafts projects, and participated in insipid discussions with drooling spastics on the importance of keeping the communal area cleaned. It was all an act, I didn't mean any of it. If I go to this place, this druggie ward, it will be the same thing. You'll see."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd still like you to give it a try. If you complete the treatment and are willing to stay off drugs, I might be able to reinstate you at SII. There's a chance you could get your job back and resume a normal, productive life."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And if I choose not to?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm concerned that you'll be pulled into the same downward spiral that led to your previous hospitalization. Are you really prepared to go through that again? You've told me in detail how that experience was extremely painful and expensive for you--not only financially, but emotionally. I'd gather that it's not an experience you'd care to repeat."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jeez. I don't know. I just don't know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you choose to pursue the treatment, I can have you admitted right away."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. I'll do it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's great. I'll arrange it right now and we can go together. Let me just make a few calls. And, Sharon, I think you might give Rob a call. He must be quite concerned about you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob? Oh. So that's how you knew. What did he tell you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you should call him and let him know you're all right."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. Let me just arrange this now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, Doctor. But I don't have any of my stuff."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't worry about that; they provide what you need. I think it's important that you get started right away."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All right, Doctor."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 14th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough at California Pacific Medical Center Rehabiliation Group, San Francisco, California, Friday, April 24, 1998 at 11:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. How are you doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All right, I guess. Here, I made you a potholder in my arts and crafts class."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It doubles as a coaster. If you keep me here long enough, I can knit you an entire set, plus a tea cozy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't think you'll be here that long."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Really? When am I getting out?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't have a definite date yet, but it should be soon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What do you mean, soon?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've reviewed your progress with the staff, and I think it would be a good idea for you to stay another week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I'm not getting out anytime soon. The last time I was locked up, shrinks played the same game. They'd say I'd be getting out one day, and when that day would come, they'd say I wouldn't be getting out for another few days. It's a shitty thing to do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I agree. But I'm always honest with you, Sharon. Now, how do you like the facility?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't. It really sucks here. When am I getting out?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel you've been able to work on the issues that led to your drug use?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You said I would be here for only a week--you're the one that's being dishonest and unethical."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I'd like you to stay here until you feel you're on the road to overcoming your addiction. You haven't used any drugs for a week, and that's very good. But you're not completely recovered yet."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm never going to be completely recovered. Isn't that what they teach you in those insipid twelve step programs? Addicts are addicts for life. I'm always going to have the same addictive personality. Are you planning on keeping me locked up for life?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have a very serious and long-term history of drug use.You've been abusing some very addictive substances. I'm glad you are willing to give this a try. But it's not time to stop yet. You'll benefit from this program the most by remaining here for a while."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Shit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you had any visitors?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I called Rob and he came to see me. He bought me some warm clothes. Why is it so fucking cold in here?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Your body's vulnerable. You might be particularly sensitive to cold right now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This is like some new-age dungeon. I hate being confined. I hate being locked up like this. Just look at the people here. Have you ever seen so many miserable people in one place in your life? I can't even get a decent cup of coffee."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm surprised. I thought coffee was the one drug they pushed here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, they save the coffee for the alcoholics. All we get is herbal tea that tastes like horse piss. Not even a diet Pepsi--it's endless apple juice."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you participated in any of the group sessions? You'll make greater progress if you take an active role in your recovery."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Look, Doctor, I don't want to sit with a group of whiners and spill my heart out about my unhappy childhood and all that other crap. And I would have to hug some blubbering idiot. I hate hugging people. It's a plague. It's the scourge of the late 20th century. Do you know Leo Buscaglia?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Look, I knitted a fucking potholder. That's something, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's a good idea to keep your hands busy."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I won't claw my eyes out, or attack the other inmates, or try to find a means of escape?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're quite angry."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You said I'd only be here a week. Why would you lie to me like that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The purpose in your coming here was to get off drugs. Judging by your demeanor..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My demeanor? What the fuck is wrong with my demeanor?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're still in drug withdrawal. I talked to the staff here, and we all think it would be best for you to stay a bit longer."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "\"A bit longer?\" You're being deliberately vague. I don't like the idea that you were all talking about me behind my back, plotting against me. You're planning to keep me here forever, aren't you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, Sharon. No one is trying to keep you here indefinitely. I talked to the other staff members to evaluate your progress. It's fairly routine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why didn't you just ask me? I would have told you I was doing fine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're not in a postion to be able to make objective judgements."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So now you're accusing me of lying."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Addicts are very poor judges of their abilities to control their addiction. I need objective data. You were able to stay off drugs for a week, and considering the extent of your substance abuse, that's quite remarkable. But if I approve your release now, there's a good chance that you'll go back to using drugs again. I want you to be committed to staying off drugs."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I'm committed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Then stay here for another week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fuck, no!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Just stay this weekend then. Stay until Monday."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This is all a big lie. You're not going to let me out on Monday."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "On Monday, we'll reevaluate you and see if you're ready to leave."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm ready to leave now!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you complete this program successfully, I'll be able to reinstate you at SII."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't want to go back to SII."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't want to have a job to go back to?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't want to go back to SII."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you plan to work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I thought maybe I could collect disability."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're hardly disabled."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "According to law, people who have addictions are disabled. I could get social security."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Even if you were able to get it, it's not very much money. In fact, it's only $650 a month. You'd make much more working. Working a regular job would also give your life structure, and you would have something to occupy your time. I recommend that you return to SII, if possible, at least for a short time. If you are truly unhappy there, you can look for other employment opportunities once you get settled in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jeez, what a pain in the ass. I should never have agreed to come here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Addiction and other self-destructive behaviors have serious long-term consequences. It's unrealistic for you to expect that you can stop abusing substances like heroin and methamphetamine overnight. Drug use took a toll on you physically and psychologically. You need to give yourself more time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I just don't think it's necessary to have me incarcerated."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Stay here for the weekend, Sharon. I'll talk to the staff psychiatrist on Monday and see about your release."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The head shrink here is a total bonehead, you know. He's so smarmy and unctuous; it's all I can do not to spit in his face when he asks, \"And how does that make you feel?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Regardless , I think that..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know, I know. You want me to get with the program."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, in a manner of speaking, yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Are you sure you're not doing this to get another potholder?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think one will suffice."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll string together a set of love beads, then, in the ugliest fluorescent colors I can find. I'll be terribly hurt if you don't wear them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Continuing with the crafts is a good idea. Maybe you could make something for Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was thinking of knitting a matching sweater and hat set for his cat."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's good to have a creative outlet."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This compulsive knitting may be symptomatic of a deeper underlying disorder, exacerbated by prolonged confinement."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Just hang in there, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thanks for coming to visit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll see you in a few days. Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 15th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough at California Pacific Medical Center Rehabilitation Group, San Francisco, California, Friday, May 1, 1998 at 11:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi. I didn't think you'd come here again. You must be a glutton for punishment."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wanted to check on your progress. You seem to be in better spirits."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "They put me on clonidine. I didn't know that they gave drugs to recovering addicts."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My compulsive knitting has abated. I was hoping to churn out several pairs of socks, maybe even argyles for a real challenge, but now all I want to do is watch insipid shows on the television. I can't believe the mind-numbing drivel that's on daytime TV. And what's worse is that I'm addicted to it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's interesting to watch bad television with deeply disturbed people--I just watch their reactions. It's kind of like watching second-run movies at a double-feature theater in a bad part of town where the homeless hang out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you participated in any of the group sessions?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, Doctor, I have."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. Do you think you've gained anything from them?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm an extremely self-absorbed person, so I always think that what I have to say is far more interesting than anyone else's comments. And being arrogant and selfish, not to mention painfully inarticulate, I refrain from commenting."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So group therapy has had mixed results. But I am attending the sessions."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd like you to continue going to the group meetings. It might be more helpful that you realize."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The food here really sucks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Institutional cuisine often leaves much to be desired. You won't have to endure it much longer."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you mean I'm getting out soon?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Your two-week stay is almost up."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You better not be teasing me about this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've always tried to be honest with you, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It seems like I've been here an eternity. It feels more like two months, not two weeks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think it's been beneficial for you to be here?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, Doctor. I feel like a new and improved person. Thank you so much for this life-changing opportunity to better myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "For some reason, I doubt your sincerity."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have to be sincere, too?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Just be honest with me, Sharon. It won't affect your release date."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm inclined not to believe that. But I guess I do feel better now. It's a relief not to have the burden of drug addiction, though I do miss it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you miss?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You actually enjoyed the act of injecting yourself with drugs?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I did."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That seems to be the unpleasant part of drug use."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess to a non-user it would seem that way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And you drove while under the influence? Frequently?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I really liked driving when I was high. I got lost a lot, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you feel a craving for drugs after you heard that interview?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Well, the clonidine seems to help, but I still miss them. I wish I hadn't heard the interview. That was the problem with twelve-step programs for me. In those meetings, you have to listen to people tell \"glory day\" stories of their drug use. There's this atmosphere of one-upmanship going on--each person tries to tell a more fantastic story, a more extreme tale of self-destruction. And rather than giving me an aversion to drug use, these meetings made me want to go out and get high again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. So you have some experience with twelve-step programs?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't think they helped."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Has Rob been in to see you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I kind of wish he hadn't."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I feel guilty when I see him, for some reason. I was hoping not to get too many visitors. Do you know who else came to see me? That woman I work with--the big one, who eats all those M&M's."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wonder how she knew I was here? I didn't tell anyone from work. I hope you didn't tell the human resources person at SII."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, Sharon. All information relating to your stay here is confidential."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wonder how she found out? She really is annoying. I hate perky people, especially grossly obese perky people. I've nicknamed her \"Godzilla.\" She did bring me a box of candy, though, which was kind of nice, I must admit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure people at work are concerned about you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "They never exhibited any concern for me before. What do they know about this?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Nothing, as far as I know. Nothing, unless you've told them."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I haven't talked to anyone about this, except Rob. It's really bugging me! How did Godzilla find out?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't obsess about it, Sharon. She was just expressing her concern."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She's getting grist for the gossip mill, no doubt."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you looking forward to going back to SII?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. Are you kidding? I couldn't stand going back there without being stoned."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I suggest you try it, at least for the short term. It would be good for you to have some stability in your life. It's not a good idea to make drastic changes when you're this vulnerable. Recovery can be a very delicate period."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You should be released tomorrow; do you have someone to take you home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can take myself home."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not have Rob pick you up? I'm sure he won't mind."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He'll drag me to some restaurant and force me to eat. Though at this point, I wouldn't mind a decent meal."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Give him a call. I don't want you going home alone."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't trust me, huh?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's generally recommended that a patient leaving any sort of facility be escorted home. You might not be in the best condition to drive."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I'll be working at SII starting next week?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, if you feel ready."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm as ready as I'll ever be."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. I'll be seeing you in my office next week, at our regular time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All right. Thanks, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome. Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 16th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, May 8, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi. I almost didn't come today. I was afraid you'd strong-arm me into going back to another nut house."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I assume you're referring to California Pacific's substance abuse treatment center."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "As long as you're able to stay off drugs, there's no reason for you to go back. I'd like you to continue working on your recovery. Were you able to attend the substance abuse group that the hospital referred you to?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I went to the Rational Recovery group earlier this week. Their approach is completely different from, say, Narcotics Anonymous. A therapist leads the group discussion, instead of a reformed drunk or druggie. I didn't have to hold hands or say that asinine serenity prayer, either. I always hated that; it was so trite."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand that some people involved in Rational Recovery left traditional twelve-step programs because of philosophical differences with the \"higher power\" concept. Do you consider yourself an atheist or agnostic?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I consider myself extremely intolerant of people who follow pop-psychology and that mushy-headed new-age jargon they all speak. I have to admit that I like Rational Recovery's straightforward, no-nonsense approach. The people there seemed real, not like the insufferably sanctimonious brainwashed zombies you see at AA meetings, who speak almost entirely in twelve-step clich��s like that Stuart Smalley character from Saturday Night Live."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. I'd like you to attend these sessions every week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What? I have to go back there again?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Recovery from substance abuse is a continual process, and many former addicts find it helpful to have support, particularly in the beginning."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What's the difference between a drunk and an alcoholic?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A drunk doesn't have to go to those stupid meetings. That's an old joke. I couldn't resist."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd like you to return to the Rational Recovery group at least one more time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, okay, I'll go. This is an effective form of aversion therapy, punishing drug use with recovery group meetings."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's not so bad, Sharon, admit it. And consider the alternative."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hate it when you're right."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are things at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How is your relationship with Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Relationship? I never really thought of it that way. I guess we do have a relationship, of sorts."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How have you two been getting along?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "\"You two?\" How romantic. You make it sound like we're a couple. Boyfriend-girlfriend, significant other, whatever you want to call it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you characterize your relationship with Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's the guy I fuck because I can't come up with the rent. I don't dislike him, though. We get along pretty well. I think we get along so well because we don't see each other much. Though sometimes, I think I'm making a big mistake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've done something so fundamentally wrong, something universally regarded as immoral."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you mean having an affair with a married man?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. Though I don't think of him as married really. He's been separated for a long time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you had any interaction with his wife?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, thank God. Rob mentioned wanting to file divorce papers, but I don't think he means it. I don't think he'll ever leave Charlotte, at least not in the legal sense."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Do you enjoy spending time with Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have mixed feelings about him. I've always thought that having an affair like this--with someone who is married--would be torrid and passionate. But there's no passion at all, just perfunctory sex and endless household chores. He's getting a really good deal, I think. I wonder how much it would cost him to hire a maid he could fuck? That's what all men want, you know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And sometimes...well, this is a terrible thing to say."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You may always speak freely here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have a hard time not making value judgments based on appearance. And that's not very fair, because of what I look like. I'm not what anyone would call a great beauty."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't find Rob physically attractive?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob really likes hippopotamuses. What is the plural of hippopotamus? It can't be hippopotami, can it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He has a hippopotamus calendar on the wall in his bedroom. They are really repulsive, grotesque animals. Did you know that the social status of a hippo is determined by how far he can spray his dung? They spray their feces by wiggling their tails around, and the one who can spray the most and the farthest is held in high esteem by the other hippos."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you've been watching too much Discovery Channel. But we're getting off the subject."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought the subject was hippos."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Very funny. We were discussing your feelings about Rob."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hippos are much more interesting."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you dissatisfied with Rob as a partner because he likes hippos?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That seems like a good reason, doesn't it? I sense Rob's sense of kinship with large, dirty, smelly, mud-wallowing mammals is related to their common physical traits."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Such as?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Immense girth and poor hygiene."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you sure you're not exaggerating a bit?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's at a physical extreme. If it weren't so extreme, I wouldn't be bothered by it. But his stomach is so distended that his bellybutton is stretched out like a pregnant woman's. It's hard to have sex because of it. When he gets on top, I can't breathe."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You might try different positions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's too disgusting to even consider."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And anyway, all these new doors are opened when you have sex with someone. And it's really weird having sex when you're not stoned."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you spoken to Rob about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I don't want to hurt his feelings."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There are ways you can broach the subject and still be tactful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, right. \"Hey, fat ass, you stink. And you're a lousy lay, too.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure if you work on it, you can find something less caustic than that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't complain. He's giving me a place to stay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I met this very attractive man at the substance abuse group. We were walking into the building at the same time, and he asked me where the meeting was being held. It made me very uncomfortable. I stammered and felt my face get hot. I rode with him in the elevator--I couldn't think of an excuse to get away. He made small talk, and I felt so awkward. If I was more self confident, maybe I would have flirted or at least been more forthcoming. But all I could do was give monosyllabic answers like a brain-damaged teenager."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Pretty silly, isn't it? I'm thirty years old, and I don't have the social graces to handle even the simplest of human interactions."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Were you attracted to him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm a little embarrassed to admit it, but yes. I haven't really noticed people around me, probably because I've been in a drug-induced daze for the past few months."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Most of us have little control over whom we find physically attractive. The feelings of nervousness or uneasiness you described are completely normal. It's also normal for people to be somewhat \"lookist\" if you will. Few people can avoid being swayed by appearances. Have you given any thought to dating?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, no. Maybe in theory, but not in practice. The thought of social interaction of any kind is almost enough to make me break out in hives. It's all too intimidating. And I don't think Rob would like it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I feel that I owe Rob a lot for taking me in. But at the same time, I resent him because there's so much about our relationship--or whatever you want to call it--that isn't very satisfying. Did you see the movie, \"Wild Man Blues?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The documentary about Woody Allen? No, I haven't seen it yet."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There's a scene where Woody Allen refers to Soon-Yi as a \"kid who ate out of garbage cans.\" I found that remark disturbing, especially since he said it in an offhanded way. It seems to me that he'll always see her as a street urchin, a charity case, no matter how old she is or what she accomplishes. He seems to be implying that she is somehow beneath him, a substandard woman or something. He isn't capable of seeing her as an equal or a partner. And I think Rob sees me the same way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What makes you think that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't even talk to anyone about it. I would never mention it to women at work. Some of them are married, and I don't want to be labeled a home wrecker."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can understand your desire to want to keep your private life to yourself, but people aren't always judgmental."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I've heard rumors about some of the people at SII and...I guess my situation wouldn't shock them. But women can be extremely critical of other women."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's it like to be back at work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Boring. Dull. Tedious. I asked Godzilla how she knew about the detox. She said she \"heard it from someone in the office,\" but I don't believe that. She's in management, maybe she has access to confidential personnel files."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wouldn't worry about it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She's asking me all these questions. I think she's up to something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "She might just be expressing interest in you out of concern."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, well..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We're almost out of time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Wow, I didn't realize I've been rambling on so long."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We've covered a lot of ground in this session. How does it feel to be back?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hate that \"how does it feel\" question. Okay, I guess."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon, I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 17th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, May 15, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. My goodness, what happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I broke several bones in my foot. I'm on crutches for at least a month, that's what the doctor said."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did this happen?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte backed her car over my foot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "She did what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was in so much shock, the pain didn't even register until later. Charlotte didn't see me, and I didn't get out of the way fast enough. I don't think it was deliberate, even though she does have some animosity towards me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What makes you say that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She holds me responsible for breaking up her marriage, but Rob says it was broken to begin with--it had been for several years. I was pretty pissed off at both of them, but I've calmed down since then."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're not angry anymore?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wish I could say that. Actually, I think all the painkillers I've been taking have rendered me \"comfortably numb\" like the Pink Floyd song."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What painkillers are you taking?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte was leaving in a hurry--she and Rob had been arguing again--she backed out without looking. I didn't realize she was backing up; then I heard my bones crack. All I could think of was that I needed to get to the emergency room. Charlotte and Rob were screaming at each other when it happened. Rob said that if I waited a few minutes for him to take care of Charlotte, he'd drive me to the hospital. I was so pissed off that he wanted me to wait when I was in so much pain, that I hobbled to my car and drove myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You drove yourself to the hospital with a crushed foot?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I had a hard time driving, and it was really hard hopping from the parking lot to the emergency room entrance. Emergency is a real zoo. The television show \"ER\" doesn't do it justice. And it didn't help matters that I was fuming mad. I was so pissed off at Charlotte for squashing my foot and at Rob for being such an ineffectual wimp."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. What kind of painkillers have you been taking?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tylenol with codeine. It really helps with the pain."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. Are you able to work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I took a day off so I could get used to the crutches. It's a little hard getting to and from work. But most of the time when I'm at SII, I'm sitting, so it doesn't matter much."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. How are things at work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Everyone's been very solicitous. It's really annoying. Godzilla--that terminally perky, self-appointed doyenne of office hospitality--gave me a get-well card signed by everyone and another box of candy. I wonder if she's fattening me up for the slaughter."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It could have been meant as a friendly gesture."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hate happy, positive people. Every time she gives me one of her Novocaine smiles, I want to kick her teeth in. I just want to put her head on a pike."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's odd. The people at work are going out of their way to be nice to me, offering to get me lunch and carry my things. And I've always thought they didn't like me. When Godzilla gave me another box of candy--the same kind that she gave me in the hospital--it led me to think that she might regard chocolate as some sort of magical elixir. Well, either that, or she bought a large quantity of See's 1-pound Nuts-and-Chews boxes at a discount. Rob, on the other hand, has been a real...well, he's not bending over backwards to help me out around the house. And I think he should, because it was partially his fault or rather his wife's fault. Maybe it's not reasonable to hold him accountable for what his wife does."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you tried talking to Rob about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I'd much rather avoid him. He was getting on my nerves anyway."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you know if this is a National Cripples Month or something?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The politically correct term is \"disabled.\" No, I don't think so."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been hearing a lot about the Americans with Disabilities Act and the rights of the disabled lately. There was a big discussion on KQED-FM's morning show, \"Talk of the Nation.\" It went on forever! I got so sick of listening to them whine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Disabled activists are really irritating. It's overkill to expect society to make so many concessions to a problem that affects such a small minority. And do you know what's ironic? With my situation--having to struggle with these crutches up and down the stairs, in and out of bathrooms--I should be sympathetic to their cause, right? Because for the next couple of weeks, I'm disabled, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why do you suppose you aren't more sympathetic to the needs of the disabled?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because they're so fucking arrogant and demanding, that's why. Look at all the handicapped parking spaces you see. How many people actually use them? Half the time, they're empty--yet another example of political correctness gone amok. I can't use the handicapped spaces, not even with my leg in a cast and with these crutches, because I don't have one of those blue handicapped parking permits. It's unfair that a person couldn't get a \"temporary disability\" clearance or something, because of an injury."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can. You should ask your general practitioner to write you a request for temporary disabled parking card."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Really? Well, I've heard other complaints that the ADA goes too far. Did you know that people who are mentally ill qualify as disabled under the ADA?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do I qualify? I'm a real basket case. I have the scars to prove it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem to be managing well."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wouldn't mind being labeled a sickie if I could sit at home in front of the television all day and collect a government check."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't be so quick to judge. Being dependent on SSI is hardly easy or fun. For many, it means having to get by on very little. It's difficult to subsist on a small income in a city like San Francisco."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I have to admit that's true. Godzilla's disabled."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Godzilla?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Again, Sharon, don't jump to conclusions. How much do you really know about any of the conditions you just mentioned?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sitting next to her, I hear plenty. If she's really in such bad shape, how come she manages to come to work every day?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Some people choose to work in spite of serious, even painful, physical disabilities. Think of it as a triumph over adversity."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I prefer to think of it as fishing for sympathy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've treated patients with some of the disorders you've just mentioned. It's a common misperception that a person suffering from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is malingering, but I can tell you from personal experience that isn't true. It's a heartbreaking condition that robs these people of the chance for a normal life."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What your co-worker experiences might be more severe than you realize. I can say with authority that hypoglycemia, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome do exist and they all can be severely debilitating."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I don't sound very compassionate. But I'm not saying, \"Kill all the cripples,\" like Doctor Kervorkian. Did you know he actually said that some quadriplegics would be better off dead?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Doctor Kervorkian has never been known for either his political correctness or his bedside manner. I suggest you explore the real reason why a discussion of the Americans with Disabilities Act provokes so much animosity in you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's mostly envy. I'm not screwed up enough to be considered \"disabled.\" But I think I'm right on the cusp. I'd be less hostile if I could only get one of those blue handicapped parking thingies."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Ask your doctor. But bear in mind that your injury is only temporary. There are many disabled people who live with permanent conditions that are much more severe."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, well..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you return to the recovery group?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, but it's for the last time. I don't want to go back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rational Recovery doesn't push meetings the way AA does."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "As I said earlier, it's important to have support in the early stages of recovery, particularly when you've used highly addictive substances like methamphetamine and heroin."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not comfortable there. And it's hard for me to schlepp around on these crutches."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think it would be a good idea for you to continue with the group for at least another month. It will give you a good foundation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you realize how hard it is for me to get around? I've come close to falling a few times. If I fall and break my head getting to and from this meeting, you're going to feel very guilty."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why aren't you comfortable there?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I met that guy..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he's very attractive and..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that the reason why you don't want to return?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Pretty stupid, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you uncomfortable because you're attracted this man?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's very physically attractive, one of those pretty boy types. I have a feeling he might be gay. Some gay men are exceptionally attractive and really work on their appearance, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you speak to him the last time you went to the group?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, he said hi to me. We talked a little bit. But I can't stand the pressure of being social."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you ordinarily go out of your way to avoid people you're attracted to?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. It sounds like he's just being friendly. Your attraction to him doesn't necessarily have to interfere with that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "While we were talking, he mentioned that he liked to go to this leather bar. He's into the S&M scene, I think. He was subtle about it; he didn't play the name game, showing off how many important people he knew or how many exclusive parties he went to. But I get the feeling he's more involved than he lets on."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And does this make you uneasy? Are you afraid you might be drawn back into that kind of lifestyle?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, maybe. I just don't want to be around it anymore. And I can't stomach all the social interaction. Just making conversation is excruciating. I don't even want to leave the house half the time. I'd like to work at home, or better yet, collect a government check so I don't have to face the world at all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think you'd miss human interaction."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can get that through the TV or through my computer--one idiot box or the other."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, whether or not you return to the group is your decision. But I think it would be beneficial for you to go back at least a few more times. And regarding that man you've met..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tony."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has it occurred to you that Tony might be just as insecure and frightened as you are? He probably takes some comfort at seeing someone familiar when he goes to these meetings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I doubt that. He's pretty confident. And someone with his looks usually doesn't suffer from a low self-esteem."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I could argue that, but our time is up."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank God. I was beginning to wilt under all your unrelenting scrutiny."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll see you next week, Sharon. Be careful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I will. Bye."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 18th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, May 22, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's finally happening."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte is moving out her things this weekend. Rob and Charlotte are getting a divorce."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Monday, Rob went to a quickie divorce type of place--you know, \"Divorces-R-Us\" or something like that. Diane was served with papers. He's already given her a check for the settlement."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm surprised it happened so fast. Usually divorces are long and drawn out."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it isn't final yet. Charlotte wanted to get her things over the long weekend; she has the whole week off. She told Rob she didn't want me in the house while she was there. Where am I supposed to go? I guess it's not even my home. But she can't even give us a definite date or time, she just said she'd be \"in and out\" all of next week. Maybe I should stay in a motel."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did Rob say about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob's a wimpy putz. He lets her walk all over him, and then complains afterward that she doesn't respect him. Last night, I started packing her things, mostly old junk--you know, magazines, paperbacks. My god, this woman has hundreds of paperback romance novels! I filled two big boxes full of them. Rob said not to throw them away. She apparently said that they represent her life, which is really sad if you ask me. I always thought she was an intelligent woman. I can't believe she read all that crap."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "For many women, books like those are a form of escape."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "They can be rather silly, but some women do appear to enjoy them as light reading."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not me. When Rob saw what I was doing, he yelled at me to put everything back where I had found it. He didn't want Charlotte to get upset. So I had to unpack everything and put it back. What a pain in the ass! I really want her to get her stuff out of there. Most of this stuff she doesn't need anyway. All the important things she really needs are with her in her condo. She used this house like a storage space and weekend getaway."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How does that make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like a nomad. Like I don't have any right to be there, even though I've lived there for the past few months. I've always felt that way, whenever I had to share a house or an apartment with someone. I'm just a live-in maid and whore to Rob. Fuck him. He's such an asshole."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is there anywhere you could go for the week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe a cheap motel. Maybe I could sleep in my car. If it weren't for these crutches, I could go out and do stuff--go hiking or go to the park. It's hard for me to even drive. It's frustrating. I really don't want to be there when Charlotte moves out. I know she will make it as difficult as possible for Rob, and maybe for me, too. I wonder if Tony would let me stay at his place?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Tony? He's the one you met at the recovery group?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I told him what was going on, and he said he had an extra bedroom."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel secure enough to do this? You've only just met Tony."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I don't think he'd try anything, if that's what you mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you sure?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd much rather fuck Tony than Rob, if I have to. You know, Rob doesn't care about me at all. I've done a lot for him; most women wouldn't bother with him. That's why he stayed with Charlotte for so many years."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's unattractive, and old, and he doesn't make a lot of money. That's three strikes against him. Most women are pretty mercenary about those things; they might use a man like Rob for a free meal, but nothing more."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't sound so disapproving. It's the truth."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What would you like Rob to do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I want him to put his foot down and tell Charlotte she has one day to sort through her things and get her stuff out and turn in her keys when she's done. I can't believe he actually agreed to let her take an entire week. It doesn't take that long to move, and most of her stuff is just old junk that she doesn't need. I'm going to be an outcast that entire week, and I'm hardly in a condition to go anywhere, which is completely her fault. It's not fair to me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you think is fair to Charlotte?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't give a fuck what's fair to Charlotte! She crushed my foot, for Christ's sake! She never even acknowledged that. She's told all her friends on the block that I betrayed her and connived to break up her marriage and steal her husband. I get dirty looks from the neighbors now--they all think I'm a bitch and a tramp. What they don't know is that Charlotte left her marriage years ago, when she decided to \"explore her sexuality\" by getting involved in the S&M community. Of course Charlotte never talks about that. And you know what else? When she said I could stay there, she said I could \"keep Rob company.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, Charlotte never actually came out and said it, but I knew what she meant."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think Charlotte expected you to service her husband sexually?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Or something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I got the impression that you were having sexual relations with Rob out of a feeling of obligation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, and what's wrong with that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Wasn't this \"sex as barter\" arrangement originally your idea? Didn't you take it on voluntarily?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Look, it really doesn't matter whose idea it was originally. I didn't think Charlotte would care if I slept with her husband. She was busy sleeping around herself. It gave Rob one less thing to complain about. I did her dirty work. I placated Rob while she was out sucking every cock in San Francisco."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And Rob doesn't feel any sense of loyalty to me. I've really gone out of my way to play the girlfriend role, and I know he enjoys that. He's really happy with me, much happier than he ever was with Charlotte. It's been a long time since he's gotten laid or had someone cook him dinner, for that matter. I've been very nice to him, much nicer than Charlotte ever was. And look how he repays me. Men like Rob can't exactly pick and choose, you know. If I leave, there won't be a line of women at his front door, ready to volunteer for my duties. I really think he should reassess his priorities."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean by that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "For the past two months, I've cooked, cleaned, and had bad sex, and I've been taken for granted. I'm a de facto wife. I'm a wife in the most traditional sense of the word. I took care of Rob when he was at his lowest. Rob used to tell me how lonely he was before I moved in. It's really humiliating to be rejected sexually by your spouse. Charlotte wouldn't live with him, wouldn't fuck him, but would deign to have dinner with him on alternate weekends and go on vacations with him, as long as he paid, of course. What a selfish cunt! Charlotte always said she was a feminist. But what that really means is that women can do whatever they want without any sense of accountability. Who needs gender equality? I've shown more compassion and concern for Rob than his wife ever did. He should consider my needs, especially now when I'm laid up like this. I should be his first priority, not that fucking breed sow."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Divorces are always hard. I think you should try to be patient, this is a tough time for Rob, too."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He'll be sorry if I'll move out. He'll be all alone and no woman will want his fat, pimpled ass."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you planning on moving out?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I should leave once my foot heals and I'm able-bodied again. He doesn't appreciate me, and I don't feel welcome in his home. I think he's making a big mistake."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you expressed these feelings to Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been avoiding him. He doesn't care what I think anyway. He's so pussy-whipped by his ex-wife. I've decided it's not only nice guys that finish last; the same applies to women."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There's no point in trying to be a good person, to do the right thing. Do you know how the religious right is always yelling about Christian morality? If you were to actually live like a Christian, according to the traditional precepts of morality, you may as well carry about a sign saying, \"Screw Me.\" Jesus was the one who said to turn the other cheek, right? What a moron! What good does that do?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How does this relate to your current situation?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I tried to do right by Rob. He wanted a girlfriend, a wife, a partner, whatever. And I did what I thought he wanted. And look what I got. Nothing. He'd rather have Charlotte, the bitch. If you want a man to need you, you have to be a castrating shrew."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you ever asked Rob what he wants?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What am I supposed to do? Do I have to sit him down and ask, \"So, what do you want from me?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There are subtler ways of going about it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "\"What do you want from me, asshole?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know what I mean, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not good at all this interpersonal communication business. He should have noticed what I was doing for him. He's not deaf, dumb, and blind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you have any feelings for Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you mean besides disgust and revulsion?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You appear to be very agitated about the amount of attention he is giving to Charlotte. I would hardly characterize your reaction to the situation as indifferent."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So I'm jealous? I don't know. I'm just angry. I'm angry at everyone. It seems like life has been horribly unfair to me. I just want to wallow in self-pity and smoke a joint."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has it been helpful to talk about it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. Yes. I don't know. Maybe. Listening to myself, I sound like a cranky, foul-mouthed bitch."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have a rather colorful way of expressing yourself at times. So what are you going to do next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I'll call Tony. The worst he can do is say no. Maybe there will be a heat wave, and the windows won't open, and we'll be forced to walk around the house naked. We could accidentally bump into each other, and..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you want a physical relationship with Tony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I need a good fuck. That's probably why I'm so cranky."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Please don't do anything rash, Sharon. Given your history..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got to go."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. I'll see you next week."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 19th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, May 29, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi. I hate this rain. I feel so stupid with this garbage bag tied around my cast. Why the hell does it have to rain now? It's almost June. It's a real bitch trying to get around without getting this cast wet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can imagine. How are you feeling?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Cranky, as usual."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. How did your weekend go with Tony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You want to know if we shagged?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Shagged? Well, I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you take a voyeuristic delight in the sexual exploits of your patients, Doctor?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm concerned because you've expressed negative feelings about sex and men. Your physical relationships can impact your mental health."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe you'd be a little less concerned if you got laid once in a while. Don't you have any cute patients you can fuck?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know it's not ethical for me to do that, Sharon. And my sex life isn't the issue. Are you seeing Tony again?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I think he's gay. He has a little pretty boyfriend who's obviously a flaming fruit. I can't compete."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did Tony tell you that his friend and he are lovers?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, but if it looks like a duck...you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Where are you staying now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I went back to Rob's on Tuesday after the Memorial Day weekend. Charlotte still hasn't moved any of her things."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I don't even know when that fucking cow is planning to come. If she pops in unannounced and gives me any shit, I'm going to tackle her to the floor and beat her with one of my crutches."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have a lot of anger towards Charlotte."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Very perceptive. Where does she get off jerking us around like this? First, she said she'd get her junk Memorial Day weekend. Then, she said she'd be \"in and out\" during the week, and she didn't even show. Fuck that! If she doesn't come by tomorrow, I'm personally going to take all her junk to the nearest Goodwill. And I won't even get a receipt."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That might be difficult to do in your condition."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm sure they have big lugs working at Goodwill whose only skill is lifting heavy objects."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This whole week has really been the shits. First, Tony with his cute little friend...I hate men who weigh less than I do. And Charlotte the Breed Sow doesn't come through and leaves me to sort through all her garbage. Between kissing Godzilla's ass at work and fucking the hippo at home, it's a wonder I don't head to the nearest clock tower with a semi-automatic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have a certain pithy way of expressing yourself, Sharon. How are things at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob seems relieved to see me. He doesn't want to face his she-devil wife all alone. If she starts pelting him with pots and pans, I'll probably have to defend him, cast and all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you and Rob on good terms?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We're not at each other's throats."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's the tension between you and Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's not worth analyzing that much. Rob is kind of like a zombie. After years of verbal abuse by his lovely and charming wife, he's learned to shut off his emotions. If you get hit often enough, you build up a callus."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. How is work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That horrid beast keeps asking me out to lunch. I can't stand it when people are so aggressively nice. She has that happy glazed look indigenous to born-again Christians and other cult members. Must be all the M&Ms she eats."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that Godzilla? What's her real name?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. That's part of the reason why I don't want to go to lunch with her. She might be offended if I call her Godzilla to her face. I also don't want to have to see this thing eat. You know, I've never actually sat down to a meal with her. But just by observing her feeding habits at her desk, it's not any surprise she has a weight problem. She should just install a trough next to her rolodex."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like she's trying to be friendly. Why are you so resistant to her overtures?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because she's revolting, and I'm fairly certain she's up to something. Besides, I don't want to pick up her eating habits and turn into a 200-pound troll."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe we should go see that movie together. I heard it was really awful. Oh, by the way, a funny thing happened. I heard from someone I knew in high school."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She found my e-mail address through some Internet yellow-page listing. She wrote me and asked how I was doing. It was a real shock."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was she someone you were friends with in high school?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really. She was nice to me, though. I didn't have a lot of friends in high school. Anyway, I'm sure the only reason she's calling is to dig up dirt and tell the rest of her overachieving friends what a loser I am."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't be so quick to judge. People don't always have ulterior motives."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What planet are you from?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand why you find it necessary to protect yourself with a bit of healthy cynicism, but if you always expect the worst...well, you might be projecting the worst, too. You might unwittingly bring about a negative result just by being defensive and hostile."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Experience has taught me that few people are altruistic. I'm sure even Mother Theresa had her reasons for feeding the maggot-ridden masses. Maybe she hung out with the most impoverished and pathetic people so she could feel glamorous by comparison. You can't beat lepers and amputees for making you feel superior. I'm sure that was Princess Diana's strategy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How long has it been since you've seen this friend of yours?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Acquaintance. It's been at least ten years. She was a real brain. She got a scholarship to Dartmouth--you know, typical Asian whiz kid, except she majored in English. My mother used to say that half-breeds like me weren't as smart as full-blooded Japanese kids."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. If I remember correctly, your mother is Japanese?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, a farm girl who had the good fortune to be knocked up by a GI. I hate it when people ask me about my ethnic background."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because I've been told I don't look particularly Japanese. I look like my father, which I really hate. Some people think I look like Filipino, which is even worse. Anyway, I only know a little Japanese, just a few phrases and insults. But I feel like I'm being dishonest if I try to pass myself off as white. Everyone's so color-conscious now. Godzilla's a Native American, or so she claims. She's always wearing that ugly turquoise jewelry with feathers and shit hanging off of it. It's really unattractive, especially on a woman her size. She may as well be wearing road kill. When she first told me that her great-great-grandfather was a full-blooded Cherokee, I thought, \"Yeah, right.\" She looks white to me. Then I realized that I must look pretty white myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you have any interest in exploring your Japanese heritage?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. It would just make me feel inferior. Besides, the Japanese have a very dull culture. It's all about keeping up appearances and \"saving face.\" They're very plastic and materialistic, and it's even worse in Japan, I've heard. They're a dull breed. Just look at their food. I hate Japanese food; it's all the same basic four or five ingredients, all mushy, and pale, and tasteless. I'd much rather have Thai or Korean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you like your food spicy?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I remember eating a lot of bland food growing up. I wish that Ivy League bitch hadn't called. She'd brought back a lot of unpleasant memories about high school."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Such as?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I'll spare you the tales of adolescent angst."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I never felt very Japanese. I was always bad-tempered, passionate, and neurotic. When I was growing up, I identified with Jewish characters, like Woody Allen or the guy in that Philip Roth novel. I think his name was Zuckerman?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I used to want to convert to Judaism, thinking I'd find a sense of kinship and community there. I used to find Jewish men particularly attractive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What made you change your mind?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "About the Jewish religion or Jewish men?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Either. Both."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, being an orthodox Jew involved a lot of dietary restrictions, and I like eating too much. Plus, there were all those candle-lighting, singing, family dinners, and dull ceremonies. Feh! And most of the Jewish men I've slept with were disappointing. Rob's Jewish, on his father's side--I think his paternal grandmother was Jewish--and he's a lousy lay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, that settles it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You mock me. I'm not an anti Semite or anything. If anything, I have a pro-Semite bias. I'm all for circumcision and Kosher delis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, that's a hardy vote for the culture. Have you spoken to your sister, or your parents lately?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "See, that's the other thing about being Japanese that's a real pain in the ass--you need to maintain a strong sense of filial duty."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I take it that means no."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why would I want to talk to them? It just depresses me, and I'm depressed enough as it is. I know I'm a big disappointment. I don't need to have my face rubbed in it. Besides, my sister is going to inherit everything, so there's no point in sucking up to my parents now. If they wanted me to care for them in their old age, they should have been nicer to me growing up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you still have a lot of resentment towards your parents?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I fucking hate the whole lot of them--my parents, my grandparents, aunts and uncles, and bratty, loud, snotty-nosed cousins. Especially those on my mother's side--all the ones who were \"pure Japanese\"--have always looked down at us. It always pissed me off--there's no such thing as a pure race. I liked telling them about archaeological evidence that showed that Japanese were descended from Koreans, just to get their goat."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How about your father's side of the family?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "They just about disowned him when they found out he married an Asian woman. I guess in the late 60's, anti-miscegenation laws were still in effect in some states. My father's redneck family was appalled."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Did you see the movie, \"Bulworth?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. I heard it got good reviews."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I really enjoyed it. It was inspirational. Maybe I'll actually vote this election."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you. The primary's next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I think my registration is still good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you know who you're going to vote for?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Dennis Peron."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The marijuana guy?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. He's running as a Republican, can you believe it? He has no chance of winning the primary, but I'll throw away my vote just to give him the support. It really sucks that all the medical marijuana clubs shut down. How could anyone be against compassionate use?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I suspect you have ulterior motives in this case."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, yeah, yeah. As long as Al Checchi doesn't win."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Al Checchi?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You must not watch much TV. He's the wop with the hair plugs from hell. What a sanctimonious asshole. One of his commercials runs nearly every ten minutes on television. He thinks he can brainwash the public if he pays for enough commercials. He wants to buy the election. God, I fucking hate him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I admire your newfound political consciousness. Don't forget to vote on the propositions, too."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm just going to vote \"No\" on all of them. I don't want to have to read all the propaganda on both sides."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "At least read the paper, Sharon. They usually print a synopsis of all the issues that you can use as a guideline. You might find something worth voting for."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All right, maybe I will. Well, see you next week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 20th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, June 5, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've had an epiphany."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've read a book, a great book that's changed my life. Do you know how sometimes a book can speak to you, can touch you, and change the way you think and the way you perceive the world?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, reading can be quite inspirational. What's this book?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "\"The Dilbert Future.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Dilbert? Do you mean the comic strip?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Inspiration can come from the most unexpected places. I always loved Dilbert because it was so unrelentingly cynical, but \"The Dilbert Future\" is a very positive and life-affirming book. It's more than just a collection of comic strips. It has given me a new outlook. I think I may have found my idealism and sense of purpose."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. What exactly did you read that made you arrive at this conclusion?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I can't remember the exact phrase or passage that turned my head around. There is a chapter which describes how daily affirmations can effect positive change."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't think I'd find that new-age hogwash in a Dilbert book, but the way it was described, it actually made sense. He also describes all the variables that make things which work in theory fail in practice--like how the fluttering of a butterfly's wings can effect global weather conditions. Reading \"The Dilbert Future\" and seeing the movie \"Bulworth\" made me realize that each person can make a difference, because each person is a variable."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been giving this a lot of thought. It's been very liberating."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've also been having sexual fantasies about Scott Adams, which is disturbing to say the least. I wonder if he puts subliminal messages in his cartoons?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wouldn't put it past him. What do you plan to do with your newfound idealism?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. I wish I had volunteered for Dennis Peron's campaign."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you didn't, for obvious reasons. Have you thought about perhaps volunteering for another political campaign?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Volunteer? Do you mean standing around in front of bus stops and supermarkets and nagging people to sign petitions? I can't see myself doing that. But I'd like to keep that Republican fat cat Dan Lundgren out of office."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There's other work you could do for the Democratic party. You could give them a call, they might be able to find something for you more in line with your interests."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you know what would finish Lundgren once and for all? An embarrassing scandal. If he was caught in a hotel room wearing his wife's undies and being sodomized by a transvestite prostitute, or a rabid Saint Bernard, he'd be finished in politics for sure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's an appealing fantasy, but you might have better results focusing on something more concrete and practical."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're taking all the fun out it, Doctor. I don't want to stuff envelopes; I'd rather be involved in an underground conspiracy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad that you've located your youthful idealism. I just think it would be better to focus on realistic goals."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "To have a goal? I don't think I can deal with that right now. I'd rather just float aimlessly, like I've been doing for so long."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Give it some thought, Sharon. Has Charlotte moved her things out yet?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, she hasn't. In fact, she bought new furniture and moved the old stuff here. Rob and I are now the proud curators of the Charlotte Young Museum. I'll take you on a guided tour sometime."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. What does Rob have to say about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He just sighs and pretends to ignore it. It's getting hard to ignore; the living room is full of furniture and boxes stacked up to the ceiling. The cat's happy, though--he has something to climb on. How is Portia, by the way?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "She's fine, thank you. Does Charlotte expect you to store her things indefinitely?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Who knows what she wants? She's turning into a real ditz--she's emotional and scatterbrained, and she can't seem to remember anything. She claims she forgot she was supposed to come by last week. Then she suddenly decided she needed new furniture and bought $7,000 worth of stuff. She charged it to her credit card. I guess she's in one of those Martha Stewart-inspired redecorating frenzies. Have you ever looked at that magazine?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "\"Martha Stewart Living?\" I've seen it on the newsstand a few times."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How are you and Rob getting along?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I guess. He's the poster boy for emotional constipation, you know. He'll complain and issue ultimatums, but in the end, he always gives in."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Godzilla's real name is Mae, by the way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you find out?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I went to see that movie--her namesake--with her. I looked up her name in the company roster before we went; I didn't want to call her Godzilla to her face. It was a pretty silly movie. I'm surprised she could fit into a movie theater seat. She ate an entire giant tub of buttered popcorn by herself. I was aghast."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you have many women friends?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, funny that you should ask that, though. I read an article on female genital mutilation which described how older women perform the ritual on prepubescent girls. The women who perform the mutilation have had the same thing done to themselves. Women perpetuate cruelty to other women, not only physically, but psychologically and emotionally."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure I see the connection."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The same thing happens in social situations. Did you see the movie \"Heathers?\" Women are horrible to each other, even to their so-called friends. All my friendships with women have been problematic. We start off being pleasant and supportive, and within a few months, we find ourselves snarling at each other. Look what happened with me and Charlotte. She was my friend, sort of. She gave me a place to stay, humiliated me by taking me to a leather bar. Then I fucked her husband, and she ran over my foot. I'm sure Godzilla and I will come to a bad end, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Last week, when a former classmate of yours sent you e-mail, you immediately suspected her of malice. Did she mistreat you in high school?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, no, she was one of the few kids who would talk to me. But I don't trust her motives, too. Maybe she and Godzilla are in on a conspiracy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a bit paranoid."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I'm not important enough to conspire about."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you had more positive experiences with men in terms of friendship? Tony, for instance. You seem to be on good terms with him."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Men are simpler because they just want to fuck your orifices. Women want to fuck with your head. I don't know what was Tony's game. He didn't try to fuck me, if that's what you mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you and Tony spent some time together. You must have enjoyed each other's company."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm beginning to think Tony only associated with me to make his little fag friend jealous. That's quite common in the gay community. I've been in that scenario before with both gay men and lesbians."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you mean a situation in which someone takes an interest in you for the sole purpose of making their partner jealous?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, it's all a big head fuck. You should know that. You're the king of head-fucking. You're a shrink, for Christ's sake. Maybe you could give me some insight into this. You should hold seminars in a hotel ballroom or something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem to have a quite well-developed concept of this \"head fucking\" game, as you call it. I don't think you need any help from me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I need to know how to play it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because \"up front and straightforward\" gets you nowhere. And I'd like to get back at some of the people who have played games with me. That's pretty adolescent, I'll admit. I have a lot of revenge fantasies. I walk around seething all day. I'm always angry. Being disabled only makes it worse. Maybe this is the reason why disabled activists are so cranky."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How much longer is that cast going to be on?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Another month, at least. It was a pretty serious injury. It hurts like hell, too. I hate not being able to walk. It's so frustrating."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can imagine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm tired, Doctor. Can I go now? I've vented enough angst for one day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right. Take care, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll see you next Friday."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Umm."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 21st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, June 12, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nMy God, Sharon! What happened? Were you in an accident?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've had a bad week. It seems I either picked fights or provoked people wherever I went this week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So what happened to your hand and your other foot?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I ran into this guy I used to know. I used to go out with him. Well actually, I used to fuck him. It was sort of a prolonged one-night stand that went on for several months."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Please continue."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was standing at the end of the bar at Starbucks, waiting for my drink. And this guy I knew, Josh, came up to me and said, \"Hey, don't I know you?\" He was leaning up against the bar, and I was backed up against the wall. He had this smug smirk on his face that made me furious. Josh was a real asshole. When we were seeing each other, he used to make dates and stand me up and then call me on the phone and hang up just to see if I was waiting for his call. I remember once, when I went to his place, he spent nearly an hour on the phone with some other woman and just ignored me until I started to walk out. And the worst of it was that I was really nuts about him. He's the physical type that I find attractive. And we had really great sex. No matter how many times he insulted me, I kept crawling back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. So what happened ?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He asked me, \"What happened to your leg?\" and touched my arm lightly. For some reason that set me off; I felt this flash of rage. When the barrista--or the snotty clerk or whatever you call them--put my drink on the counter, I threw it right in his face. It was scalding hot coffee. He screamed in pain, which made me laugh. I didn't know he could reach those high notes! It was too bad I didn't order a Grande. I figured he wouldn't hit a cripple, so I taunted him, cooing, \"Aw, did that hurt?\" He pushed me hard, and I lost my balance and landed on the floor. He got on top of me, grabbed me by my throat, and screamed, \"You fucking bitch!\" I thought he was going to kill me. I couldn't breathe for what seemed like several minutes. I fumbled around in my bag for pepper spray--I always carry it. When I finally found it and managed to get my finger on the nozzle, I sprayed him in the face. I inhaled some of the spray, too; it is really horrible stuff! He got the worst of it, though. He was really screaming then! But he still wouldn't let go of my throat. I had to spray him a couple of times before he loosened his grip and I could crawl away."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Didn't someone call the police?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Some security guards came and dragged him away. When I tried to stand up, I felt this shooting pain in my left foot. My head was throbbing, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you go to a hospital?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, but it took awhile. Starbucks must recruit employees from one of those special schools for kids with Down's syndrome. They have such boneheads behind the counter. They just stood there with blank looks on their faces, until I screamed for a fucking ambulance."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. What happened then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I went to the emergency room. It turned out I had a sprained ankle--I must have twisted it when I fell. I also have a fractured wrist and a mild concussion. I'm not even sure how that happened. I guess I was lucky I didn't hurt my back or break my head open."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've been through quite an ordeal. Did you talk to the police?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I told an officer at the hospital what happened, but I didn't file assault charges or anything like that. And Josh hasn't filed any against me, at least not yet. I guess he knows it wouldn't stand up in court--he's a lot bigger than me. What would he say? He had to defend himself against this little crippled woman half his size? Judging by the reaction of the people in Starbucks, most of them thought he was attacking me. We were off in a corner, and the place was dimly lit, so I don't think they saw the whole thing. After the incident, several people asked if I was okay. And do you know what's so disturbing about this?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I actually enjoyed hurting Josh. When I play the scene back in my head, it gives me great satisfaction, especially hearing that falsetto shrieking of his. I felt this surge of power. It was really exhilarating, like getting high. If I could get away with it, I'd do it again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Would you say that you attacked him maliciously?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wouldn't say it was premeditated, but it wasn't in self-defense either. It happened in a flash. I didn't even have a chance to suppress it. When he touched my arm, all the anger I had swallowed, all the memories of how he used and abused me came back, all at once. Now I know what it means to be temporarily insane. I couldn't stop myself, even if I wanted to. But I wouldn't mind doing it again. I've had all kinds of sadistic fantasies ever since that day. I'd like to slip him roofies, and when he passes out, cut off his dick and sew it to his head."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you and Josh have a bad breakup?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "After he had stood me up for the millionth time, I told him to go fuck himself. I was so stupid. I was so smitten with him that I believed all his excuses. Josh always knew exactly what to say, too. He was really good at manipulation, especially at manipulating women. It just makes me sick knowing I slept with that egotistical piece of shit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you feeling now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you mean physically? I'm in pain, my whole body aches. I'm going to go on disability. There's no way I can go back to work like this. I mean, Jesus, look at me. I'm a basket case."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you emotionally?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm still fuming at Josh. I'm pissed off at everyone, at humanity in general. I knew my newfound idealism would wear off. People are so stupid; they're all vile, disgusting creatures. I can't stand to even leave the house. Do you know people don't even get out of the way when they see a wheelchair coming? They just stare with these blank expressions and don't even budge. When I say, \"Excuse me, excuse me,\" they act like they're deaf, in addition to blind and stupid. It's not until I yell, \"Get out of the fucking way! I'm coming through!\" that they finally move."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Disabled people often complain that they feel invisible."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The next day, the all-knowing Godzilla struck again. When I didn't return to work, Godzilla came to visit me at home. How does she know where I live?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Maybe you mentioned it to her?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I didn't tell her. When we went to see her namesake on the big screen last week, we met outside the theater. How the hell does she know where I live? Does she follow me around or something?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "She might have been able to get the information from personnel files, assuming she has access."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's what's so weird. My personnel file wouldn't include my home address. When I moved in with Rob, I never gave HR my new address. Only Charlotte and Rob know where I live."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was surprised when she came to my front door. She came with a get well card and yet another box of chocolates. I had to invite her in even though I didn't want to."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The AIDS Walk? I think that this year you have a special dispensation"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Godzilla said that she was going in a wheelchair with someone pushing her. And she said she could find someone to push me, too. She can't walk the entire course because of her so-called disability--the Chronic-Lazy-Butt-Disorder or whatever you call it. What a steaming crock! She's not disabled, at least not like I am. She doesn't have any broken bones, and she can walk just fine. She claims that she tires easily due to her many ailments. The real reason she needs a wheelchair is to help tote all her excess blubber."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I gather you don't want to participate in the AIDS Walk."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I remember reading some criticism of them in the San Francisco Chronicle."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've always been suspicious of big charities, especially after Bill Aramony's scandal with the United Way. It seems the bigger the charity, the more corrupt it is. The term \"nonprofit\" really has no meaning. The SF AIDS Foundation is full of fat cats--all those vice presidents and managers. It sickens me to think that most of the money raised for AIDS patients really goes to administrative costs. The people who run these charities make money off of the terminally ill. And I mean lots of money. I read that Jerry Lewis gets a few million every year for crying and sniveling at the Muscular Dystrophy Telethon. They use sick people as cash cows. Can you think of anything more repugnant?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I didn't think that Jerry Lewis got paid, but I'm not sure. You do appear to have very strong feelings about this issue."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I came in with an open mind and had it closed for me. When I told Godzilla about this, she said I had all my facts wrong and we started arguing. She kept saying what a \"good job\" the foundation was doing and that it was a \"good cause.\" I said I'd rather give my money to a homeless person with AIDS. At least then I'd know that the person getting it was needy and not some corporate cretin in a pinstriped suit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "After about twenty minutes of bickering, I finally told her I didn't give a shit about AIDS patients or gay people. Most of them are drug addicts, fags, and prostitutes and they've got it coming to them. I told her they could eat their children, for all I cared. Godzilla left in a huff. I was relieved. I won't have to see her anymore, at least not for awhile."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why did you get so angry?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm getting angry now just thinking about it. I hate it when people get so sanctimonious and self-righteous about a politically correct cause. Godzilla made it seem like an AIDS charity could do no wrong. When I politely told her I wasn't interested, she kept nagging and nagging. When I told her why I objected, she wouldn't even hear my point of view. She wouldn't even take a look at the \"Accountability Now\" or \"ACT UP!\" web sites. She's just as narrow-minded as those right wing religious conservatives. I can't stand these New Age, earth-hugging, politically correct fascists who think their brand of morality is beyond reproach. It's like those half-wits who promote bilingual education..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a subject for another session, I'm afraid. We're almost out of time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh. I guess I've been ranting during my entire session. Maybe I missed my calling. I should host a radio talk show."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You are always free to vent here. But let me say that while you are free to express your opinions, making comments like \"they can eat their children\" will alienate people instead of winning them over to your cause. Sometimes, it's better to just let things go and agree to disagree."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Point taken. But sometimes, it's fun to argue, especially with someone who's wrong."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Point taken. Have a good week, Sharon. Get better."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 22nd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, June 19, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you feeling?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I guess. I'm getting used to the wheelchair. I filed for State Disability Insurance, but I haven't heard anything back from them yet. I'm a little worried. If I don't qualify, I'm fucked. I don't have savings or anything like that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are things at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte's a wreck. She's acting like a certifiable nut case. She makes excuses to avoid signing the final divorce papers and calls Rob late at night to cry or to scream insults at him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob says she's turned into a self-help workshop junkie. She met a lot of crunchy granola types in the S&M community, and they've introduced her to all these New Age scams, like aroma therapy and channeling. She goes to these overpriced weekend seminars with titles like \"Finding the Love You Need.\" I didn't realize those workshops cost so much; they're about $600 each, sometimes more. That's a ridiculous price to pay to sit in a hotel banquet room and be lectured for six hours. I thought she was an intelligent woman, but she's acting like a dingbat."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Divorce can be a very unsettling experience, especially during middle age. It can take months, even years, for a person to recover. It's common for one or both spouses to be emotional or behave erratically. Many people turn to alcohol or drugs; others seek some form of therapy. It sounds as though Charlotte has found some measure of comfort with these workshops."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I always thought the people who organize these things were second-rate con-artists. They're just as bad as television evangelists who use guilt and emotional manipulation to fleece the little old ladies. The people who come to self-help seminars are vulnerable and needy; and these New Age snake oil salesmen exploit them just to make a quick buck."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I agree that a weekly workshop habit can be expensive, but some people find them beneficial. Don't be so quick to judge."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I had my worst suspicions confirmed last Saturday, when Charlotte dragged us to a concert that one of her groups sponsored. I didn't want to go. But she begged and nagged and offered to buy us dinner afterward at a nice restaurant, so we caved in. The concert was held in this creepy place; it must have been some kind of church. There was cheesy wood paneling on the walls, and everyone sat on metal folding chairs. On the far wall, behind the podium, there was a mural with Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, Mohammed, and some other ethereal types gathered in a big group hug against a Garden of Eden backdrop. I felt like they were all staring at me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte's friends made my skin crawl; they had such serene smiles. When Charlotte introduced us to her friends, instead of shaking hands, they grasped my good hand in both of theirs and looked deep into my eyes. One of them actually knelt as she held my hand and said that I \"had the aura of a wounded spirit\" and asked if I was in an accident. I told her I'd been hit by a Mack truck. Her deferential attitude made me think of something I read--some aboriginal tribes revere their disabled and deformed as though they were gods. I have a feeling these fruit loops were glad to have a token cripple in their midst."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. What was the name of this organization?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The musicians--if you want to call them that--had some kind of goddess-evoking mystical name like \"Persephone's Bunghole\" or \"Demeter's Goiter,\" or something equally pretentious. The group that hosted it--the one that holds all the workshops--is called PSI, which stands for \"Psycho-Synergistic Idiocy,\" or something like that. Psycho is right. Before the performance started, they stood around in a circle with their arms around each other and jumped up and down while chanting, \"Hug! Hug! Hug!\" It was bizarre."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How much of that are you taking?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "About four tablets a day. I'm in a lot of pain. I have a prescription for Vicodin, but I haven't filled it yet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you taking any other drugs?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not really."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got high and made out with Tony a couple of times. It was no big deal. I didn't even enjoy it. It just made me stupid and horny. Now I don't even understand why I ever smoked marijuana in the first place. So spare me the anti-drug lecture, Doctor, okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't want you to abuse your pain medication."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, okay. I'll switch to Vicodin, if it makes you happy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened after the concert?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "For their final number, they passed around this basket of instruments so the audience could participate. The head fruit loop was a short, plump, hairy guy named \"Bear.\" What kind of stupid fucking name is that? Why didn't he just call himself \"Shag Carpet?\" Anyway, he went up to me first and offered me the rain stick--it's this big wooden rattle filled with little beads that's supposed to sound like rain drops when you shake it. The Head Hairball said the group wanted \"someone special\" to have it. I was pissed! That was so patronizing! I wanted to take that fucking rain stick and beat him over the head with it or stick it up..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I trust you didn't."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I took his stupid noisemaker just so he would go away. When his back was turned, I handed it to Rob. He looked at it like it was something from another planet. He passed it on to Charlotte, and she was enthralled. She shook her big stick with great enthusiasm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got out of there as soon as their last number was over. I was suffocating! I think I ran over a few feet with my wheelchair, which gave me great satisfaction. Rob was right behind me. He said he couldn't stand it either. Charlotte was in there forever, hugging all her friends and \"soaking up the good energy.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did Charlotte make good on her promise to take you to dinner?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, but that was just another con-game. Charlotte drove us to a nearby restaurant. I was worried it would be a vegetarian place, but it was actually a decent steak house. When I got there, I realized the whole fruit loop brigade was meeting there for dinner. There was no escape. Charlotte was hoping to turn Rob and me into fruit loops, too. I was grateful for the full bar. I don't usually drink, but when Rob asked if I wanted one, I decided it was a good time to imbibe."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did you drink?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Banana daiquiris. They tasted like smoothies; I could barely taste the alcohol. By the time dinner arrived, I had sucked down three and was working on my fourth."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a lot for a teetotaler, especially one taking pain medication."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You would have wanted a drink, too, if had to spend time with these loons. They were all so happy and upbeat. What awful people; they aren't fit to be called human. Guess who I saw there?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Who?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you talk to her?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't think so. I don't remember much after my fifth daiquiri. I do remember one woman saying to me that she used to be \"just like me, sitting there so quiet.\" She said, \"I hardly talked to anyone. I was so bashful. And I never wore make-up or dresses.\" What a bitch! She was complimenting herself while giving me backhanded insults. I told her I'd rather be an anti-social misanthrope than a self-absorbed, babbling airhead, and her tits wouldn't sag so much if she invested in a good under wire bra. She left me alone after that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you remember anything else about the evening?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I remember ordering the most expensive thing on the menu to spite Charlotte, but I don't remember what it was. And I'm not sure if I ate it or not. I remember eating the tiramisu with my fingers while the other diners looked on in disgust. I was really drunk and obnoxious. When they wouldn't serve me any more drinks, I wheeled myself to the bar, banged on the counter, and yelled, \"Whose cock do you have to suck to get a drink around here!\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Charming."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I had a terrible hangover the next day. Rob said Charlotte was pissed that I got sick in her car. Now I remember why I don't like drinking. It's much more enjoyable to smoke weed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I hope you won't be doing either from now on, especially when taking pain medication."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know, I know. After that experience, I won't have another drink for a long, long time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This group that Charlotte joined, PSI? Are they some sort of religious organization?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you mean are they a cult like Heaven's Gate? That thought did occur to me. They certainly acted weird enough. I remember Charlotte saying that they specialized in training courses for salespeople and people in leadership positions. I heard a lot of people pattering on and on about \"being focused on success,\" setting goals, and the power of positive thinking. They have a language all their own."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How do you feel about your actions that night?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hate the \"How does that make you feel?\" question."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you regret anything you did that night?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I cringe inwardly when I think about it. I really made an ass out of myself. But I won't be seeing those people again, except maybe Godzilla, and I really don't care what she thinks. I'm sure my behavior repelled Charlotte enough so that she won't be dragging me to any more of her special events."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Are you still seeing Tony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Not that often. I'm not getting drugs from him, if that's what you're after."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you smoked marijuana with him."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, a few times. I just did it to be social. Okay, maybe I was kind of hoping for something...you know, physical. I was nervous about it--about the possibility of having sex again--so I smoked a little to help me calm down."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Did you have sex with him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "In this condition?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You previously mentioned you wanted to volunteer in a political campaign. Is that something you're still interested in doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Look at me, Doctor. I'm pretty useless right now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are there other interests you can pursue? I'm concerned that with a surplus of free time on your hands, you might revert to drug use and other destructive behavior."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't afford to do anything fun. I certainly can't afford a drug habit. I can barely afford bus fare here to see you. Do you know how long I have to wait for a handicapped-accessible bus? Sometimes I wait over an hour."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've heard that there is a dearth of wheelchair-accessible buses. Sharon, for next week, I'd like you to compile a of things that interest you, things you've always wanted to do and that won't be affected by your disability."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, a homework assignment. Shit. Well, it's not like I have anything else to do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good. See you next week, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll be here, with list in hand."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 23rd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, June 26, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm nigger rich!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What a charming expression. I take it you received your disability check."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Whoo-hooo! I thought it would never get here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Are you on something? Have you been smoking marijuana?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, no, not really. I'm a little hung-over."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you used last night?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's not like you think."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you get high with Tony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wasn't going to, but he offered me a hit and I thought, \"Why not?\" I took a few codeine pills with it, and so did Tony. We got really fucked up! It was a weird high; it made me all paranoid. I was too fucked up to do anything, but I was so restless that I couldn't hold still. We spent hours watching made-for-TV movies on the Lifetime channel."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know I don't approve of this. If you're getting high to dull your physical pain, ibuprofen is much more effective. You can take higher doses of ibuprofen if necessary, up to 600 mg. It might upset your stomach, so be sure to take it with food."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm getting high to dull the psychological pain of daily living, Doctor. Why can't you just prescribe marijuana? That's what helps the most."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know I can't do that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure you can. Just write \"Unlimited Marijuana\" on your prescription pad."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It seems like you are having no trouble obtaining it on your own. The medical marijuana clubs in San Francisco are closed now, so a prescription would be worthless as well as unnecessary and inappropriate."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The ever-practical and always ethical Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are things at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Actually, everything's good. I think that drunken scene last week bonded us together, somehow. Rob admitted that he found Charlotte's distress gratifying after I threw up in her car. Rob and I are united against a common enemy--Charlotte. It's kind of like the way that the United States' collective hatred of the Germans and Japanese bonded the country together during World War II."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Speaking of things at home, check out the new addition to the family."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 24th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, July 3, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. Looks like you're feeling better today."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm all right. It's a relief to be able to stand again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When did the casts come off?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "On Tuesday, I went to the doctor. They said my sprained ankle had healed, but I shouldn't put too much weight on it yet. The foot will take longer to heal because of the multiple broken bones. Tendons also take a long time to heal. I use the wheelchair most of the time because my ankle is still tender."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How's your wrist doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It hurts, but the brace seems to help. I don't have a lot of dexterity in that hand. You were right about the ibuprofen--the high doses really ease the pain. I'm not supposed to put too much stress on it; the doctor advised against the crutches. But I hate waiting an hour or more for a wheelchair-accessible bus. I decided to take a chance coming here on crutches today."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Please be careful. I'd hate to see you get into another accident."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I know. From now on, I won't throw hot coffee at offending ex-boyfriends."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How was your week otherwise?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A friend of Tony's made a disturbing comment a few days ago. I'm not sure what he meant by it, maybe it was nothing. I'm so paranoid. With all this free time, I find myself obsessing about every little thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did he say?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tony met with one of his pretty boy-toy friends after the Parade. His friend got food poisoning afterward from eating bad Chinese take-out. He was milking it for all the sympathy and attention he could get. The sick fuck was lying on the couch with an anguished look, bemoaning his condition, when he said, \"Good thing Tony didn't have any, he's not up to it like I am.\" At first it didn't register, and I replied, \"Yeah, lucky you. Hope you get better soon.\" But on the way home, I realized what he meant."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think he was implying that Tony's HIV-positive. Or maybe Tony isn't, and Sick Fuck only wants me to think that he is. What a conniving little shit. I wonder if he planned that whole scenario--I'll bet he didn't even have food poisoning."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think the most logical solution would be to ask Tony directly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Would that be making too much of this? If that little bastard is trying to fuck with me, and I get upset, I'm letting him win, right? Maybe if I ignore him, he'll go away."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Tony's HIV status is a serious issue, particularly if you've been intimate and even more so if you've had unprotected sex."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It wouldn't matter if Tony was HIV-positive. It's not a death sentence anymore."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "With the casts and all, I haven't exactly been the seductress lately. I don't have a very sexual relationship with either Tony or Rob."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I still think you should talk to Tony about his sexual history. And you should also get yourself tested."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He hasn't demanded to know the size and circumference of every cock I've sucked. He could have judged me by my promiscuous past, but he didn't. If he's keeping his HIV status under wraps, that's his right. I'm really tired of hearing introductions like, \"Hi, I'm Homer, and I'm an HIV-positive incest survivor and a vegan.\" Boo-fucking-hoo. I have more respect for a person with HIV or AIDS who keeps it to himself and doesn't expect any special treatment."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. But this isn't about special treatment that Tony expects--I'm not talking about a plea for sympathy. This is information you need to assess the risks that you're willing to take."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, right. I wonder why Sick Fuck had to go and do that? Tony and I aren't a couple; I thought his friends knew that. Besides, most people aren't threatened by me. I'm hardly intimidating. I have an honest face, and I appear to be completely guileless."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Only your therapist knows the awful truth."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Very funny."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Look, Sharon, I can't force you to ask Tony anything, and I can't make you take an HIV test. But I must emphasize that having an HIV-positive sexual partner is a serious risk. You have a right to be informed, and asking him is perfectly reasonable. This issue is clearly troubling for you--you're obsessing about it. You could easily resolve it by asking Tony a simple question."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, you have a point."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "End of lecture."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You'll never guess who came knocking at my door."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Godzilla?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How did you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Just a lucky guess. Actually, I'm surprised, considering your last encounter."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't expect it either. I think she's trying to convert me to that fruit loop New Age group. She invited me to some sort of born-again pagan ritual with her boyfriend. I tried to get out of it, but Godzilla said that she really wanted me to go--something about needing \"female energy.\" Her boyfriend--this tall Native-American guy young enough to be her son--didn't want to go either. He was tagging along because she was taking him to dinner afterward. I was a bit startled by him, he's an imposing presence. I could tell by his eyes he was on something--he had that stoner look. I thought maybe he could get me some weed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you were attracted by the lure of food and marijuana?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hard to resist. This ritual was in Marin, of course, at this retreat that had some pseudo-Native-American-sounding name, like \"Make-um Heap Big Wampum Meditation Retreat.\" There are even more fruit loops over the Golden Gate Bridge than there are in San Francisco and the rest of the Bay Area. It was a really long drive. Godzilla blathered enthusiastically all the way there. The Stoner looked bored. I knew he couldn't wait to get high. I felt kind of sad at that point."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because Godzilla was so happy and excited. I knew she wanted to have him there; she wanted to show him off. And I knew he didn't care about her, he was probably just using her. He wasn't in the same head space that she was, and he wasn't even self-aware enough to know that. Jeez, now I'm talking like one of them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're assuming a lot about a man you just met. How much do you really know about their relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Usually, your first impressions are right on target. It turned out I was right. As soon as he got there, he said he had to go to the bathroom. I waited a few minutes, then followed him. It was hard to maneuver, because we were outdoors and the ground was uneven. Sure enough, he retreated into some trees behind the restrooms. He was startled when he saw me; he covered up his pipe and tried to act cool. I asked him if he needed a light, and he seemed relieved. Then I asked if he minded if I smoked some weed, and he brightened up. I shared a joint with him--I slipped one into my wallet before we left. He offered me a hit off his pipe, and I saw that he wasn't smoking weed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I have a feeling I'm not going to like this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I only had a little hit. I did it to be polite, so he could trust me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It was crack, wasn't it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Very good, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was that the first time you've smoked crack?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I don't see what the fuss is about. I heard how addictive it was--people are hooked after smoking it only once. It got me wired and very paranoid. It didn't last long, but I still didn't like it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm relieved to hear that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When the sun set, a group of women started pounding on drums. I knew about flaky New Age devotees in Marin, but I've never seen so many in one place. When they started chanting this ugga-mugga pseudo-Native-American song, I couldn't stop laughing. The Stoner got a kick out of my hysterics, and he laughed a little, too. To stop giggling, I had to think of sad things, like starving children in North Korea."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did anyone notice that the two of you were stoned?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Nah. It was outdoors, and they were burning sage--the whole area was smelly. And we weren't the only ones who were stoned; I smelled marijuana a few times. I also saw a lot of dark eyes. I'd heard that fruit loops favored organic hallucinogenics like psilocybin. I could see how this was a good place to trip. After the initial giggling fit, I calmed down and the drums really got to me. They were almost hypnotic. I looked up at the sky which was incredibly clear. I felt like the night sky was pushing down on my face, while the sound of the drums and voices was compressing me from the sides."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I must have stared up at the sky for a long time--my neck really hurt afterward. By the time it was over, it was after midnight."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What sort of ceremony was this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. It was one of those earth-hugging rain-dance kind of things where everyone chants \"wunga-wunga.\" On the way home, Godzilla asked what I thought of it. I told her she had a great voice--she sang during the ceremony. She beamed with approval. I didn't tell her that I thought she sounded like an animal wailing in pain. Maybe if she had sung \"Amazing Grace,\" I would have been more impressed. I also told her the drumming and chanting was exciting and got my heart pounding."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I also told her she was radiant, that she glowed like a woman who'd just had the best orgasm of her life. I knew she loved that; she was very pleased. I felt like a big bag of shit after I said it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Were you lying?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She did have a goddess-like serenity about her. I didn't want to bring her down by telling the truth--I was stoned and goofing on the whole scene. This probably makes me a real asshole. But there's no point in beating myself up about it because she didn't take us to dinner--the whole thing ended so late."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She did say she wanted me to accompany her again, and I told her I would like that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really? In previous sessions, you've expressed nothing but scorn and contempt for those who subscribe New Age beliefs."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd like to learn more about it so I can make fun of it more effectively. This experience led me to conclude that all religion is really whacked and thus ripe fodder for derision. Christianity is no weirder than any of this neo-pagan shit. If you look at the symbols and rituals of Christian religions, they're just as bizarre, like the crucifix that Catholics wear. You always hear people making fun of Hindus for the dots on their heads, but a cross is just as ridiculous. What's the point of wearing a metal representation of an ancient form of torture? If Jesus had been stoned to death, would we be wearing little rocks around our necks? Good thing the electric chair wasn't invented then, because the Pope-ski would look even sillier if he wore a big gold chair on a chain. I've never understood why Catholics have such reverence for an old bald guy with a drag queen's fashion sense. Spiritual leader, my ass. Louis Farrakhan was right when he called him \"a no-good cracker.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Modern-day paganism is just as nonsensical as any other belief system. But at least you can get stoned at their ceremonies."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I can see that's a plus."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It would be cool to start my own religion. I could call them \"Sharon's Witnesses.\" I'd dispense my followers to suburban neighborhoods to distribute cheap mimeographed copies of my obscenity-laden rants."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're really quite creative, Sharon. If you could only channel that energy into something constructive...have you thought about finding a creative outlet?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I'd like to get up on a stage and smear chocolate frosting on my tits while shoving yams up my ass."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's been done."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not by a cripple."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think your handicap would get in the way, at least for now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I knew you'd nix the yam thing. Being disabled is the shits."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I was thinking more along the lines of writing or painting."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd rather rim a rabid bulldog with hemorrhoids."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's very poetic. Maybe you could turn it into a sonnet by next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "More homework! I can't bear it!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure you can. I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 25th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, July 10, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm preoccupied. I took a blood test on Wednesday. I'm trying not to worry myself into a frenzy about the results."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you got tested."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When Tony came by to see me, I told him about my appointment and asked if he'd ever been tested. There was a long silence, and he got this look on his face. Tony said he'd been meaning to tell me but kept putting it off. He wasn't sure why he kept it a secret from me; all his other friends knew. I told Tony it was his friend's remark that tipped me off. I wished I hadn't said anything."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You were justified in asking him, even if it did make him uncomfortable."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Remember the news story about that young drug dealer on the East Coast? This was several months ago. They were calling him a modern-day typhoid Mary; he infected dozens of young girls with HIV. Worst of all, he knew he was doing it--he admitted to the police that he kept a scorecard in his head like it was a game. I thought he was a truly evil person."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think I do remember reading about that. How do you feel about Tony now, knowing that he withheld his HIV status from you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "At first, I was furious with him and with myself. Then I realized Tony wasn't acting out of malice. I think our relationship was a way of escape for him; with me, he could get high, play, and pretend that nothing was wrong. That's probably why he spent so much time with me--it was a form of denial. It makes sense, in a twisted sort of way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you going to continue having Tony as a sexual partner?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not going to reject him just because he's HIV-positive. Tony was really down after I told him. He'd been in a fight with Sick Fuck--the one who tipped me off. Tony looked so miserable with his chipped tooth and bruised face. I decided the least I could do was cheer him up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean by that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tony was going to sell some of my things for me--he works at that leather store. I've got some relics from my past life that I'd like to get rid of. Tony said that if they were in good condition, I could get a fair price for them. The disability checks aren't very much. I have all this free time and no pocket money. That's why Tony came by--to take a look."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So he came over and we took bong hits until we were both baked. Tony brought a big Nordstrom's shopping bag with him. He opened it up and inside was a leather corset. It was really quite beautiful in a black minimalist way. I liked the simple lines and the lacing at the back. The corset was surprisingly heavy; it felt important, like an artifact or something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I thought you were interested in getting rid of some stuff..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, Tony cajoled and teased, and he finally got me to try it on. He had to help me get into it and lace up the back. Even though we'd been intimate before, I felt embarrassed standing in front of him wearing nothing but the corset and a cast. It was an under-the-bust corset, so I was almost naked except for the expanse of leather cinching my waist. He tight-laced the back, pulling it closed. It gave me a little head rush. I'd heard about corset fetishists enjoying that sensation, but it always sounded very nonerotic to me--like being squeezed by a boa constrictor. I was surprised that I found it arousing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tony sat on the bed and looked up at me and said I was stunning--he'd always wanted to see me like that. He ran his hand along the inside of my thigh."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I slapped him and told him he hadn't been given permission to touch me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You did?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then I grabbed a handful of his hair, pulled his head back, and told him that I wanted him naked on his knees on the floor. When he smiled at me, I knew that was what he wanted all along. I slapped him again--harder this time--and said, \"Now!\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you and Tony done this sort of role-playing before?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, but I knew he wanted it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you also want it or were you just doing it for Tony's benefit?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. Yeah, maybe I did. While he undressed, I dug through the box of stuff that I was planning to sell and found the harness."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A harness?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A strap-on. It's a leather thong designed to hold a dildo."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you take precautions?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I knew what I was doing. I've done this before. As I secured the strap-on in place, Tony looked to see what I was doing. I reprimanded him and told him to turn around and face the bed. He did as he was told. I spanked him again, and he inched his knees apart. I kicked the inside of his legs apart until there was nearly a foot between them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did Tony..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I could tell he was aroused--men have a hard time hiding that fact when they're naked. I was turned on, too. I could feel myself getting wet, I could even smell it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, it sounds like you were about to get a lot more intimate with an HIV-positive man. Were you prepared? Did you think of the consequences?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I've got everything I needed. Don't worry, Doctor. So once I had Tony over the bed, I secured his wrists together in front of him with the leather restraints. I put a pillow on the bed, pushed his face into it, and told him to hold that position and keep quiet. I reddened his bottom with my hand until he moaned and squirmed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then I stroked him, teasing him with my hand while pressing my tits against his back."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was exciting! I could hardly believe what I was doing. I remembered all the things that were done to me--what those sensations were like. I was surprised I had such confidence; I knew exactly what to do. I remembered how much I loved the smell of leather. I took a leather flogger, pulled him back by his hair, and trailed the falls of the whip across his face--I wanted Tony to smell it, too. I pushed him down into the pillow and trailed the ends of the whip over his ass and across his back. I could tell by the way his legs and back muscles tightened that his anticipation was building."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. But..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I whipped him on the ass and back, starting slowly and building up gradually, harder and harder, until he brought his knees together. His shoulder blades and back were deep red."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You didn't break skin, did you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, certainly not. I paused to press my nipples against his back and give him a few teasing strokes with my hand. He was breathing hard, and I could feel his pulse racing. I told him to hold still, that I would be right back. When he nodded, I gave him a spank and said, \"What?\" And he replied, \"Yes, Mistress.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was this the first time you've been in the dominant position?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess. I did some of these actions before, but only on the orders of my master. This time..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did it make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I felt this ringing, buzzing sensation in my head. It was kind of like having too many margaritas. I was very aroused. My heart was pounding, but I felt completely calm. I also felt powerless, in a way. I couldn't stop what was happening."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I took a bottle of lubricant and put it on the bed, next to him, so he could see it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I appreciate the detailed account, but I want to know if you used..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I told him to turn around on his knees and face me. I stepped forward and told him to suck it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you're not answering my question. Did you use any precautions at this time?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I made him work; I pushed it into his throat, until he started choking."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Choking? Did you know..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, of course I knew what I was doing. It wasn't my first time, Doctor. I've been on the receiving end of forced deep-throating lots of times, and I'm still here. And it didn't last very long. I took it out when he started gagging. I just did it to make him feel powerless."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Like you feel when it's done to you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes. I wasn't going to suffocate him. Then I told him I wanted him over the bed; Tony wanted it, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you sure? Did you always want what your master told you to do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tony assumed the position right away. I lubricated the dildo and..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you take precautions, Sharon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're ruining my story, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sorry. But..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I eased into him. As he relaxed, I pushed in slowly until I was completely inside him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, did you take precautions? Sharon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Huh? I didn't think we needed to."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure what the protocol is for this type of activity, but I think you're taking too many risks."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was careful. I used a generous amount of lubricant on both him and myself to decrease the possibility of rents and tears."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sometimes..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you feel afterwards?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Weak and lightheaded. I had to sit down, my mind was reeling. Tony turned toward me and I held him for a long time and stroked his hair. I felt this wave of emotions; I wanted to cry."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was weird. I was so out of it, like my soul had left my body or something. Tony, on the other hand, was completely blissful. He nuzzled me like a baby. I wanted him to put his arms around me; and it took me a while to realize he was still in the restraints. I unbuckled them, and as I looked down we were both covered...well, you know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did Tony..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Reciprocate? Make up your mind, Doctor, do you want details or not?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What is it then--just professional curiosity? Well actually, Doctor, I'll have to disappoint you--I didn't want Tony to reciprocate."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's not what I wanted at that moment, maybe next time..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you clean yourselves up immediately afterwards?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't want to ruin the moment. It was kind of nice to languish while covered in come after sex. We did clean up eventually."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you use a disinfectant? Rubbing alcohol, perhaps..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jesus Christ! What do you want me to do, treat Tony like he's the Toxic Avenger? Something tells me you're a real smooth operator in the bedroom, Doctor. I'll bet you drive the chicks wild with your latex gloves and disinfectant spray. We used soap and water, both known as effective against HIV and a host of other germs and viruses. I didn't have time to scrub him down with Lysol, I had to get him out of the house in a hurry--I didn't want Rob to walk in on us."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm dismayed by your cavalier attitude towards safe sex, Sharon, especially when you have a partner who is HIV-positive. From what you just described, you came in contact with his body fluids. HIV can be transmitted through semen. You may not have had conventional intercourse, but an open sore--even a paper cut--can..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Should I have worn a protective suit, like those dancers in the Intel commercials? Those ads make me ashamed to admit I'm a PC-user. I should have bought a Mac instead; at least their advertising doesn't insult your intelligence."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I just want you to be careful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tony, the dildo, and I were all washed with anti-bacterial soap. I don't think that what we did posed a big hazard. You take a risk when you have sex even if you do take precautions. Condoms break, people lie. Sex is supposed to be spontaneous and a little scary; that's part of its appeal."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a very self-destructive attitude."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "One of the things that drove me crazy about the S&M community was that people were constantly harping about safe sex and safe S&M. The people who preached the loudest didn't do half the things they recommended. I know all about safe sex, Doctor. I've heard all the lectures."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't want you to put yourself at risk."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I should have put a condom on the dildo. If it will make you feel better, I'll soak my little silicone friend in a bucket of disinfectant, okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Actually, I'm not sure what would be safe for the scene you described. Putting a condom on the dildo doesn't sound like it's going to make it all that much safer. Maybe you could use one of those vaginal shields. That might make more sense. And cut out anything with a whip that might cut into the skin and flail blood around."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Great."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon, I'll drop it for now. But in the future, I'd like you to be more vigilant about using protective barriers. You can buy rubbing alcohol at almost any store; it may not be romantic, but it's cheap and effective. It's always good to take a few moments to make sure you're exercising all possible precautions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Tell me more about how this made you feel."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, while I was doing it, I could almost feel what Tony was feeling. I was experiencing his sensations vicariously...is that the right word?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it is. You said you've dominated other men before at their request. Did you enjoy those experiences?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really. I did what they wanted me to do to appease them. It was more like a friendly gesture. I didn't get off on it like I did this time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, judging by the way you described your encounter with Tony, it seems that you enjoyed it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I haven't felt a rush that intense in years. I forgot all about my injuries. My wrist isn't completely healed yet. But while I was swinging the whip, I didn't feel even a twinge of pain. It didn't start to hurt until later that night. It's really killing me now. My feet and legs ache, too. I must have been standing for awhile without leaning against anything."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Do you regret what you did?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm still surprised. But no, I don't regret it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How about Tony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's practically doing cartwheels. He can't wait to see me again. I'm feeling some performance anxiety."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll have to keep coming up with more elaborate scenarios to keep him interested. He's not just my buddy anymore. I feel like now I have to impress him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And how does that make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know, it was kind of fun. I really liked the fact that I could control and manipulate him. I even enjoyed inflicting pain, watching him flinch when I whipped him. I thought Tony would think that what we did was pretty tame. He's played with men before, and they're known for roughness."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel about the prospect of doing this again?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm ambivalent. I thought I wasn't going to do this again. It makes me think of that Eagle's song, \"Hotel California\"--\"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Once you taint yourself with this knowledge, once you acknowledge your dark side, it will always be a part of you. You can suppress it, but it's never completely dormant."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. When will you be getting your test results?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The Wednesday after next, the fifteenth. I wish you hadn't brought it up. Now I won't be able to get it out of my mind again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "HIV is frightening, Sharon. It's a serious condition. That's why I emphasize..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I know. Safe sex, safe sex. Rah, rah, rah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right. Enough lectures for now, it's very late."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Thanks, Doctor. See you next week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 26th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, July 24, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi. I guess Rob told you, huh?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I spoke to him. He told me he was going to bail you out of jail."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Are you going to help write a case history for my lawyer? Or are you going to have me locked up?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd like to know what happened."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought Rob told you what happened."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I want to hear it from you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you know that list of a hundred best films? I read a magazine article about featuring an interview with Pauline Kael; she was a critic for the New Yorker. I've been reading one of her books--a collection of her reviews. This woman is full of shit! Where the fuck does this dried-up old cunt get off dissing Woody Allen?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I fail to see how this relates to your recent drug experimentation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I knew a film student who raved about how great she was. I'd always wanted to read her reviews, and now I wish I hadn't. I don't think I'll be able to enjoy movies the same way anymore. \"Hannah and Her Sisters\" was one of my favorite films of all time. I watched it over and over again. Kael had the unmitigated gall to say that the characterizations were thin. She called Bukowski a \"poseur\" in her review of \"Barfly.\" Blasphemy! Bukowski's more of a real writer than she could ever be."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Let's try to stay on the subject."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm getting to the point. Pauline Kael has poisoned my mind. I was so disgusted after reading her book. It was as if she drained all the joy out of going to the movies. I picked up her infuriating habit of dissecting every element of the film into bits and pieces, instead of taking it in as a whole. She's so caught up in acting the part of a learned and well-read intellectual, that she completely misses the point. Now I can't even watch daytime television without seeing it as an elaborate metaphor for the decline of twentieth century civilization. Jerry Springer is a modern-day Roman circus, whereas Jenny Jones, with her costumed characters and musical interludes from has-been rock stars, has a more surreal quality. Rick Lake is an unctuous gas bag with delusions of grandeur--she actually thinks she's helping people. Did you know Geraldo's daytime show is going off the air?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What am I going to do without his Friday celebrity gossip show? Who's going to cover Zippergate? Geraldo's absence will create a void no one else could fill. Rosie O'Donnell can't hold a candle to him, I don't care if she did get the Daytime Emmy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Let's get off this tangent and get back on track. What drove you to cultivate and then consume massive amounts of hallucinogenics?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "After reading Pauline Kael's film reviews, I wanted to cleanse my head, like that rabbit song. Did you know rabbits eat their own poop? It's really gross. They don't eat all of it, though, just the little mushy ones. I wish they did eat it all, then I wouldn't have to clean it up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, whatever. Anyway, the plan was that I would trip with Tony while seeing \"Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.\" Only I took too much and freaked out. When we got out of the theater, the sky was dark, and for some reason that really scared me. Tony maintained much better than I did--he didn't take as much. He guided me across the street to the Zephyr Cafe, which I usually find a soothing environment. But I couldn't go in; I couldn't stand the thought of being confined indoors."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know, I was overcome by this irrational fear. I stayed outside and looked in the window at the display of coffee mugs until I got really cold. Tony finally dragged me in and took me to a table. I closed my eyes and that was a big mistake. I saw these giant eyes staring back at me in reverse video--my pupils where white and the whites were black. Then I saw little ants and worms crawling out of my eyes and remembered a story I heard in high school about some kid who had clawed his eyes out while on acid. I panicked and started screaming, and Tony took me home. I felt like I was going to die, like I was having a heart attack. Tony tried to talk me out of calling 911, but I did it anyway. He got the hell out of there."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened then?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The police came. I thought they would take me to a hospital, but they handcuffed me and took me to jail instead. I spent the night in the drunk tank with a couple of really skanky-looking prostitutes and a smelly homeless woman who shouted obscenities while rocking back and forth. It was surreal."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Was this the first time you've taken psilocybin?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not sure it was actually psilocybin. I've been working on the mold project for a while. I took some before, a week ago, when I got my first crop of mold. It wasn't anything like the last time--then, I watched TV and laughed my ass off. The first time, I was a little nervous and paranoid when I started to peak, but it was okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Wasn't it psilocybin that you took?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, it was just spores from the mold. I never actually grew mushrooms. I'm really disappointed that the cops took all my jars. It was a lot of work. I had to sterilize everything and haul jugs of distilled water from the store to water the rye berries."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you know how to do this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There are mushroom-growing guides all over the Net. Someone called \"Psilly Simon\" has a very thorough description on his web page. It's pretty complicated. I should have paid more attention in my chemistry class. But I was actually proud of myself for doing as much as I did. You wanted me to find a creative outlet, and growing mold and fungi is creating new life, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know that's not what I meant."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've never been much for growing things, not even marijuana plants. They're supposed to be weeds, but I can never get them to produce buds. When I saw the white fuzz forming on those rye berries, I was overjoyed. I felt like an expectant mother, cradling her mason-jar-womb, awaiting the sprouting of her little fungi children."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you feel after the drugs wore off?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was drained and exhausted. I heard that happens after a bad trip. So before you threaten to send me back to rehab, I want to tell you that I've sworn off drugs for good. Except pot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you're charged with possession with intent, you'll give up a lot more than that. Do you realize how serious this is? You could go to jail, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If you talk to my lawyer and tell her that I'm a serious nut case and didn't know what I was doing, they'd drop the charges."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I won't lie about your mental state, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You won't be lying, I am a real nut bag. Look at these scars. I'll have to remember to wear short sleeves to the arraignment and hold my arms out like this. Good thing I went back to the wheelchair. I've got to play the cripple card for all it's worth now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You knew what you were doing. Your psychological state didn't render you delusional."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was all for personal use. The crime lab still hasn't determined if what I produced is a recognized drug. Do you know what they took as evidence? A little plastic dieter's scale from Weight Watchers. It was Charlotte's--she was always on a diet. What a joke! Real drug dealers don't use a scale like that, they use a triple-beam balance or a digital scale. If that's the only evidence they have of intent to sell, they've got a flimsy case. I don't know why law enforcement even bothers to come after me. I'm no threat to society. Why don't they chase after crack dealers who sell to school children?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's not the point, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, it is. America's \"War On Drugs\" is a national disgrace. \"Just Say No\"--what an insipid slogan. We should string up that old bag Nancy Reagan and hang her next to Pauline Kael, and gut them both like a couple of tunas. This \"no-nothing\" mania sweeping the country is completely out of hand. They're even coming after people who smoke tobacco. Where would the South be without tobacco? We're really shooting ourselves in the foot here. Didn't we learn anything after the Prohibition? How much money has the government spent on the drug war? With all the social problems we have, why not let the smokers smoke and the stoners get stoned and spend our tax dollars on something important, like national health care."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you know how many Deadheads are rotting away in prison for selling acid? They give harsher sentences to marijuana growers than they do to rapists and murderers. Mankind has been getting high since the beginning of time in an effort to cope with the fact that reality sucks. Criminalizing drug use is pointless, unless you really think our prisons should be full of aging hippies and pot heads rather than violent criminals."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "United States drug laws aren't the issue here. It's your well-being that I'm concerned about. Substance abuse has destructive consequences, not the least of which is prison."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When's the last time you went to a Rational Recovery meeting?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know, a month or two ago. They're boring."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you want to help your lawyer make a case for mitigating circumstances, I suggest you go back and make a real effort this time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I guess I'll have to do that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How is Rob taking all this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Surprisingly well. He was a hippie and a draft dodger back in college. He doesn't use any illegal drugs now, but he smokes Havanas smuggled in through Canada, so he's sympathetic."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How are things otherwise? Have you named the bunny yet?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not yet. I'm leaning towards something with a classic, old-world feel to it, like Schmekel-head. How did you know about rabbits eating their own doody? Did you grow up on a farm?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I must have read it somewhere. The SPCA could give you more information about the care and feeding of rabbits. You should give them a call."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Speaking of eating poop, I downloaded an Internet Relay Chat program. I wandered into a chat room about scatology--playing with shit before and during sex. Someone in the room said it was okay to eat your own shit. I thought it would make you sick, but he said it won't."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not sure why we're discussing this, but I don't recommend fecal matter, even your own, as a supplement to your diet."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I found some web sites devoted to scat, mostly for gay men. There's also a video out called \"Walking Toilet Bowl Part Two,\" featuring a woman who eats, fucks, and smears herself with shit. There's a scene where she dives headfirst in a toilet and bobs for turds. At the end, she lays naked in the bathtub, smeared with feces, and sings Broadway show tunes while the camera guy takes a piss on her. One of the guys in the chat room told me about it. I want to see it, but you have to buy it. It's not available for rent."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What is it about this practice that you find so fascinating?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It represents the apotheosis of deviant sexual behavior. That's probably what Pauline Kael would say if she reviewed \"Walking Toilet Bowl Part Two.\" She'd probably complain about the bad lighting, too, not to mention the poor dialogue. Rob takes a dump four or five times a day, really big ones. I bet if he joined a \"Scat Singles\" group, he'd be very popular. They'd be impressed with his fecal prowess. Or do they call it \"poop-itude\"?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is this something you'd like to try?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What? Film reviewing? Or playing with shit? Or reviewing films about people who play with shit?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I was referring to the practice of scatology."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh. I don't see anything erotic about it, which is why it's so interesting. How could anybody get off on something like that? Even the S&M Community keeps its distance from poopie people."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We're almost out of time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't you want to talk more about feces and its fetishists?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, Sharon, I really don't."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, come on. I can give you the URLs of the cool scat web sites. You can even use my password to get in."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doctor, you need to get more fun out of life."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 27th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, July 31, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. My lawyer said that it'll be a long time before the crime lab results come back, and even longer before the arraignment. Tony is almost as worried as I am, but he managed to help me get my mind off the case."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I have a feeling I'm not going to like this. What did Tony do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He made reservations for us at a gender-bender party. These parties are held every month in an old Victorian house. We went shopping first, which was a lot of fun. Tony knows a store in the Haight that sells clothes for strippers and prostitutes. He picked out this see-through white mesh mini-dress. He was going to wear a pink satin thong under it and a pair of matching pink stilettos. This is a great city to live in if you're looking for a size nine high heels."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It certainly is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tony sprung a huge erection when he saw himself in the dressing room mirror. I stood behind him and stroked it while he watched. I told him not to touch it for the rest of the day; he only had permission to touch when he peed and then only for two shakes. I rubbed him until I could see he was getting really excited, and then I told him to put on his street clothes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Have you received the results of your HIV test?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You really know how to ruin a good reverie, Doctor. With the arrest last week, I didn't have time. I thought you'd be happy for me--I'm getting in touch with my inner dominatrix. For the first time in several months, I'm actually feeling sexual desire and acting on it. Isn't that a sign of progress?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There's a compulsive and self-destructive side to your recent sexual activities which concerns me a great deal. I'm also troubled that you're rather lax about taking precautions with an HIV-positive partner."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I do take precautions, Doctor. That's why I want to tell you what we did, I think you'd be proud of me. I was very careful."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I suspect you have more prurient reasons for detailing your exploits."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You say that like it's a bad thing. After we went shopping, we picked up champagne and bubble bath on the way to Tony's house. Tony wanted to shave his legs, and I convinced him it was better for me to do it. We took turns with the bong and drank a few glasses of bubbly while waiting for the tub to fill. When Tony got in, I sat on the edge of the tub and covered my cast with a towel to keep it from getting wet. I took a soapy washcloth and worked it all over his body. He was very excited--hard as a rock. I enjoyed teasing him and telling him not to come until the party that night. I could have hung a plant from his penis. He stayed hard for most of the bath, even when I shaved his balls."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You did?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Who?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The Sick Fuck--Tony's jealous friend. He was livid; he looked like he was ready to kill us both. I can't believe that guy is so obsessed with Tony and me. Tony says he already has a boyfriend and maybe a girlfriend. What more could he want? Does he need a sheep, too? That's kind of greedy if you ask me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you and Tony negotiate any of this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, not in so many words. I knew he wanted to be publicly beaten and humiliated. I planned to give him what he wanted, maybe a little more. While I was tying him, several drag queens gathered around to watch. Tony could see them in the mirror. I lifted up his dress, pulled his thong aside, and fingered him. I told him everyone watching would take turns doing what they pleased with him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you disclose Tony's HIV status to the other party participants?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, but Doctor..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you might be into playing games like that, but you can't lead others..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm sure Tony wasn't the only positive one there. We all knew what we're doing, Doctor. We all know the risks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And there wasn't going to be any exchange of fluids in any rate."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was Tony wearing a condom?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why don't you just let me tell my story in my own way? So Tony made a some half-hearted protests, but I knew he wanted..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How can you be sure?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Erections don't lie. He was breathing hard and was clearly excited by the idea of all those people watching and touching him. But I would have stopped if he told me to. I lifted up his dress and whipped him with a long leather flogger until his back and bottom were deep pink. Then I switched to a small, sharp whip and snapped it on his inner thighs and at his crotch until he pleaded with me to stop."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you stop?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, of course I did. I did just enough to terrorize him. After that, I untied him and told him to get on the floor, on his hands and knees. I placed a riding crop on the opposite end of the room and told him to crawl across the room and bring it back to me in his teeth, so I could beat him with it. I smacked him on the ass and said, \"Go!\" One of the drag queens, a tall Rita Hayworth-type, couldn't take her eyes off him as he made his way across the room."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When Tony returned, I reprimanded him for putting teeth marks on the crop. I made him lean back, still kneeling and rest his weight on his hands. I slapped his nipples and crotch with the crop until he gasped in pain. Then I ordered him to reach into his thong and hold his balls out for me while I whipped them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds dangerous. Did Tony have a safe word?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A dungeon monitor?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's the S&M version of a school hall monitor. There's usually more than one. Their job is to walk around the dungeon and watch what people are doing. They enforce the safe sex rules, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, all S&M parties do. We need to use condoms for sex, even for oral sex. We have to wear a glove for intimate touching. There's usually a table with condoms, gloves, and lubricants as a courtesy to the players. But everyone is encouraged to bring their own."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was surprised when the dungeon monitor came over and asked about the inflatable gag."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's an inflatable gag?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's a specialty item; Tony ordered it from Europe. It's a gag with a pump-like mechanism to inflate the mouthpiece."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's the purpose of an item like that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It feels good. You can pump it up so it fills your entire mouth. It muffles screams and makes the wearer feel powerless. The black drag queen, Tasha, said that Tony made too much noise and needed a gag. I was afraid the dungeon monitor wouldn't let us use it, because inflatable gags have killed people who hadn't used them properly. But our dungeon monitor said that as long as Tony could breathe and had some sort of \"safe signal,\" it was okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What was Tony's safe signal?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tony's signal was two stomps on the floor. He could have also raise his left hand. One always needs a safe signal when using a gag."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tasha gagged Tony and stroked him, making him very hard. Then, she sliced a long, bamboo cane through the air, and when Tony looked up at the \"swoosh\" sound, Velvet smacked him on the ass and told him to keep his head down."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Velvet?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There were a quite a few people interested in Tony."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And was it all right with you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I like to share, Doctor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you enjoy watching them?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I found it arousing. I liked the fact that I helped orchestrate it, but didn't have to do a lot of work."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Was all of this sharing okay with Tony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He was hard and didn't complain when they started to fuck him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did these women use condoms?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, they had to. They throw you out if you don't."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And when we finally allowed Tony to come, I held bunched-up tissues to the end of his cock. You're not supposed to get semen anywhere, except in a condom. I thought the tissues were a good compromise. I wrapped them up in a glove and threw them away afterward."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you feel afterwards?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got a kind of a rush from all this that lasted a few days."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How about Tony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He was elated, he couldn't wipe the shit-eating grin off his face. He was a little wobbly afterward--his knees were bruised. He had to take off his shoes to walk to the car. On the way home, he said his mind and body had turned to mush. He was very affectionate, too. It was kind of sweet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. That was the first S&M event you've been to in some time. What was it like to return to the S&M community?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know if one party means I've returned. I don't think I'll make a regular habit of it. This was a special occasion. I had fun while I was there, but being there also reminded me of why I wanted to distance myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean by that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did their comments make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Angry and disgusted. But that sort of petty criticism is very common in the community. These bitches didn't even play, they just stood around and made rude comments. They didn't contribute anything to the atmosphere and trashed those who did. That reminded me of how intolerant people in the S&M community can be."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I remember you mentioned this before."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's like the gay community is always waving around that damned rainbow, but they don't grasp that it's meant to be a symbol of diversity. In the S&M community, like in the gay community, people are expected to conform to a strict standard of how to dress, what to say, how to act. They're always trying to outdo each other with more extreme scenarios, to the point where what they do isn't even erotic, it's just grotesque. I've watched the leather dykes who play really hard, and they aren't into what they're doing. Their eyes don't glaze over like someone having an endorphin rush. They're watching the crowd for peoples' reactions--it's all for shock value. It's competitive in a stupid, destructive way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Isn't this the part where you nag me to pick up my test results?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You will take care of that soon, won't you Sharon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, Doctor. I don't think I'm a high risk, but I'm a little worried all the same."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's best to know for certain."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. Have a good week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 28th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, August 7, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hola, Doctor. Do I look Mexican to you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why do you ask?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I just got back from the Mission. It seemed like every five minutes, some old woman came up to me and asked if I spoke Spanish. Is my ass that fat? Some people ask me if I'm Filipino. I don't know what's worse."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "They're just asking for help. I sense an oncoming rant."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I went to the hospital this morning, to take some more X-rays. Half the staff there speaks Spanish because they have so many Spanish-speaking patients. The X-ray technician was Mexican. Her accent was so thick I could've scooped up her consonants with a tortilla chip. She wanted me in all these weird positions. You'd have to be a contortionist to do what she wanted. She kept pushing on my leg and foot with her claw-like hands--I just love those Lee Press-On Nails, don't you? She kept trying to flex my ankle, even when I told her it hurt. The last time, the X-ray guy was this big, jovial black man, who was a real pro--five minutes and I was out. He got all the right angles without turning me into a human pretzel."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Perhaps she had less experience, but I wouldn't make some racial generalization."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The doctor renewed my prescription. When I went to the pharmacy to pick it up, I waited and waited behind this middle-aged Mexican woman who was holding up the line, arguing with the pharmacy clerk, in Spanish, of course."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "People always have to wait in line at the pharmacy. Unfortunately, that's quite common."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why is it these people have such an irresistible compulsion to breed? Everywhere I go, I see some Mexican mama with a half-dozen little brown watermelons with arms and legs in tow. And they never get out of the way or hold a door open for a cripple. Maybe it's a good thing they are the way they are. Being dull, stupid, rude, and lacking in ambition, they're well-suited to washing dishes and picking lettuce. Do you know any Spanish curse words?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. Do you think we can move back to something related to Sharon now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The next time someone asks me if I speak Spanish, I want to tell them to fuck off in their native language."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure that will encourage them to learn English."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why can't they leave me the fuck alone? If there ever was a defective race of people..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I think the real issue here is why you react with such anger to everyday annoyances."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, you're missing the point. When was the last time you went to the Mission?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A while ago."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Probably never, right? And being a white guy, they don't bug you for translation services. Observing a large group of immigrants steeped in their own culture and living off our largess is enough to make any taxpayer's blood boil."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why do you go to the Mission district? Isn't it a little out of your way?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I want to support the local businesses."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was it drugs, Sharon? Were you \"supporting the local businesses\" by buying marijuana in Dolores Park?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I go to Hunter's Point for that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm kidding. When I was done with the hospital, I went to the clinic on 17th Street to get my test results, which were negative by the way. The woman who told me the good news was Mexican, too. The Mission was a short bus ride away. And I scored some dwarf bananas from the corner market on 16th."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You'll need to get tested again in three to six months."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Arrgghh! Why are you making such a big deal about this? I'm not a high risk."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "With a history of promiscuity and drug use, with a lackadaisical attitude towards condoms and safe sex generally, and with an HIV positive sexual partner and your penchant for S&M games, I'd say you are at high risk. I hope the counselor impressed upon you the need to take precautions. Did you pick up some condoms while you were there?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, the taco bender safe sex counselor just about rammed them down my throat. They were the cheap kind, too--the ones that taste really bad. They all have a funny taste, but the ones you get from the clinic are the absolute worst. They're really thick and have a strong, synthetic flavor."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Spoken like a true condom connoisseur."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Have you ever worn a condom for a blow job?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because it feels really weird, or so I hear. A lot of men have trouble coming that way. By the time they do, I've practically got lockjaw. How about dental dams, have you ever used one? I'll bet you haven't."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "My sex life isn't the issue here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's probably because you don't have one."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Are you gay, Doctor Balis?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "My sexual orientation isn't relevant, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought so. You have a faggy look."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. I'm not gay..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I meant that in a good way, you know--gay men are so attractive and are such snappy dressers."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good save, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And dental dams are a fucking joke. You don't know how awkward it is to eat pussy with a big square of latex in the way. Tell me, Doctor, do you really want to lick a piece of rubber for twenty or thirty minutes or however long it takes to make the woman come?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Granted, using barriers may not be the height of sensual pleasure, but the alternative is to risk..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The alternative is a hot and juicy kiebalsa or tuna taco, sans the sandwich wrap. The taste is the best part of going down, at least for me. And it's not a high-risk activity. Saran Wrap is even worse as a barrier protection, it bunches up and sticks together. I think it's terrible that it's still recommended as a preventative device. Even the company that makes Saran Wrap doesn't sanction its use as a safe sex barrier. Dental dams work okay for rimming; if you lubricate one side, and stuff it in the crack, and hook it in the little hole with your finger. It'll stay put for a while."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you for that valuable insight."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's the twenty-minute rule?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Condoms should be replaced after fifteen to twenty minutes of vigorous intercourse. But it makes more sense to try to get him to come before then, because the chafing gets to be a bit much. That's a good time to use your Kegel muscles--if you can clamp down at just the right time, he'll finish and you can go back to watching TV."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How romantic."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Speaking of romantic, have you heard of the female condom?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I read about it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was marketed under the brand name \"Reality\" and hailed as a new breakthrough in contraception and STD-prevention. The truth is Reality sucks! That's probably why they gave it the name \"Reality\"--it was a metaphor. That thing was so ugly...I mean do you really want to fuck a woman with a plastic bag hanging out of her vagina?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because that's basically what it is, and it's about as erotic. Imagine putting your penis in a slightly narrower version of a Hefty Cinch Sack; that's what those things feel like. It feels weird for a guy and for a woman, too. Maybe that was the point--using the female condom was so unpleasant that both partners would lose their sexual appetite."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Safe sex speakers always have these neat gadgets, like those garter-belts that hold dental dams in place and special latex panties. Most people aren't going to bother with stuff like that. Those are just novelty items. They're expensive, too--dental dams are about a buck a piece, and all that other junk costs even more. Female condoms are outrageously expensive--about three dollars each. College kids aren't going to spend that much, especially when they can get condoms for twenty-five or fifty cents a piece."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's not an outrageous cost when you consider the alternative."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When I confronted this safe sex speaker woman after her talk, I asked her if she'd ever used a dental dam, Saran Wrap, or a condom for that matter. She admitted she hadn't. She was a lesbian who didn't have a current partner. So where the fuck does she get off giving speeches about AIDS prevention? It's like Jeffrey Dahmer lecturing about the importance of a balanced diet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure this woman was informed and had good intentions, though she might not have had the practical experience you've had."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Are you calling me a slut?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, Sharon, I didn't say that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think it would make sense to have some old whore up there talking about what works and what doesn't and not some do-gooding suburban lesbian who's all theory and no practice."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Perhaps this is something you can volunteer for."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hey! You're not supposed to judge me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're projecting, Sharon. I'm not judging you because of your sexual experience. By your own admission, you do have some practical knowledge of this subject. You might benefit others by sharing your experience."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You want me to go up in front of a group of college kids and wave condoms around? I'd rather rub ground glass into my eyes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You offer harsh criticisms but no practical solutions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's because there are none. There aren't any simple answers when it comes to AIDS prevention. Safe sex is a misnomer, a more accurate term is \"safer sex.\" An awkward, expensive, hard-to-find, and aesthetically displeasing means of barrier protection is useless, especially if you're addressing a crowd of hormone-driven teenagers."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What would you recommend?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd recommend condoms, with the proviso that they don't shield you from a host of other diseases, like crabs, herpes, and genital warts. The people who think that wrapping themselves in latex allows them to do whatever they want sexually are deluding themselves. I'd urge people to be selective about whom they perform certain sex acts with. I'd rather give up oral sex entirely than use a barrier for it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And I'd also feel funny about taking on that kind of role. I'm hardly a poster child for monogamy or sexual health. And people are very judgmental about women who are open about sex. Even you are looking at me with that \"something smells bad\" expression on your face."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're projecting again, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I'm not."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Let's move on. Have you heard from the crime lab yet?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not yet. It will probably take a few weeks, maybe even a month. The lawyer said crime labs and police officers are notorious for mishandling evidence. Maybe that will work in my favor. Has my lawyer called you about obtaining my case history yet?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I haven't heard from her."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I wonder why. I better call and nag."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you prefer the wheelchair?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My knees have been bothering me. I only use the crutches when I think they're absolutely necessary."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Would you like a midget banana? They're small, neat, good to eat, and a tasty treat."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How very sweet."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Want to smell my feet?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you need help with the door?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You make me feel unwanted when you say things like that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll see you next week, Sharon."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 29th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, August 14, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nFuck off, you asshole!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's going on here?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're supposed to stop at a crosswalk, you bunghole! What's a matter? Is your brain as small as your tiny little dick? That's why you drive a big car, right? It's to compensate for your micro-size smegma-encrusted cheese doodle!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh yeah? What are you going to do, beat up a cripple?\nGo ahead, the joke's on you! I don't have any money!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sir, I need to ask you to leave."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There's your shock treatment!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's enough, Sharon. Sir, if you don't leave right now, I'll have to call the police."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Have a real meaningful day, asshole! Don't run over any cripples on your way home!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He nearly ran over me! There was a stop sign at the intersection, and he didn't even slow down! He could have hit me!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So you keyed his car?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I waited until he parked, then made a nasty scratch on the side of his sports utility vehicle. I hate people who drive SUVs--big gas-guzzling pieces of shit for knuckle-dragging simians with little dicks who couldn't get laid in a morgue if they tried. It was purple, for god's sake! He deserved it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I think it's time to work on your anger management skills."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He was wrong, not me! Cripples have the right of way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Even if he was wrong, that doesn't give you the right to deface his car or spit in his face."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He got what he deserved. He ran a stop sign and nearly ran me over, too. I hope his big fucking purple shit box tips over on the way home and he breaks his head. That'll learn him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're overreacting, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He almost ran over me! He broke the law! He could have killed me!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I think you would benefit from learning how to defuse your emotions so you don't become apoplectic over every minor daily annoyance. Remember what happened with Josh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He was the one who attacked me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You provoked him, Sharon. You threw hot coffee on him. You could have walked away or ignored him. I don't condone what Josh did to you, but you did attack him first. And look at the result--you were seriously hurt. If you continue lashing out at people, you can get hurt again."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I have a cassette of relaxation exercises that are used in anger management programs. I'd like you to listen to this at least once a day; it's a short tape. Many people find that it helps to relieve stress. Will you give this a try?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're trying to brainwash me with that oogity-boogity New Age crap, just like Godzilla. Do you sell these things on the side to drum up extra income?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's a commercial tape; the voice on it won't be mine. It's a guided relaxation exercise designed to defuse negative emotions. After listening to the tape a few times, try to guide yourself into a relaxation state without it. You can use this technique in situations when you feel your emotions are out of control."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd like you to try a relaxation exercise right now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Is this a form of hypnosis?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's a similar technique. Are you comfortable?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're still quite angry, aren't you? This will help you to calm down."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I kind of like being pumped up from all that adrenaline. It's better than caffeine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sensation you're describing is as addictive and dangerous as a chemical dependency. Rage feeds upon itself; you create a vicious cycle when you obsess over events that make you angry. It's unhealthy, too. I'm sure you know of diseases and ailments that perpetually angry people are prone to. I really want you to give this a try, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I want you to get comfortable. Find a position that's comfortable for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How about doggie style?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, you're right, it's hard on my knees."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Make yourself comfortable and close your eyes."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're not going to try and cop a feel, are you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn. Okay, I am getting very, very sleepy..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Please be serious. I'd like you to breathe slowly and deeply. Fill your lungs with air and exhale through your mouth."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Are you checking out my heaving bosom?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Breathe, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Mmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm going to give you a series of instructions. I want you to follow them exactly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I love it when your voice takes on that dominant tone."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How do I know you won't take advantage of my vulnerable state?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I've always been ethical in my dealings with you, Sharon. Do you feel you can trust me?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, your thrust...I mean your trust fills me, rendering my mind moist and malleable, opening up to the penetrating force of your probing analytical skills."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, probe me, Charlie baby, probe me long and hard..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm sorry, I just...I feel funny doing this. Okay, okay. I'm breathing deeply."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel your heartbeat slowing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mmm, yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I want you to clear all the thoughts out of your head."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm all clear now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doctor Balis?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Is it in yet?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon! If you don't want to do this..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I couldn't resist. I can't tense up the muscles in my feet or lower legs--it hurts too much."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd forgotten about that. Let's try it again, shall we? And this time no interruptions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Breathe deeply. Relax your body. Start at a body part you can tense and relax without pain and work your way up."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wish you hadn't reminded me of my flabby thighs."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Focus, Sharon. Tense the muscles, hold, and then let go and move to the next muscle group."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Focus on a soothing white light in your mind's eye."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you see it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Focus on the white light. Keep breathing deeply as you tense and relax your muscles."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Keep breathing."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mmm-hmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You may open your eyes now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's it? You didn't even try to grope me. I'm very disappointed in you, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel more relaxed now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I do. I really do. I feel a lot calmer."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can use this and other techniques on the tape to help gain control of your emotions in stressful situations."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes when I get angry, I can't control it. It's like I'm possessed. I do crazy, violent things sometimes. And by the time I realize it, it's too late."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There's usually a window period, a brief moment when you realize what you're doing. That moment is a good time to take a breather and to step back or to walk away."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How have you been otherwise?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Our cat, Groucho, attacked Rob last weekend. There was a stray cat in the yard--a big orange tomcat we call Trash Can. Groucho and Trash Can were hissing at each other through the screen door. When Groucho began climbing the screen, Rob picked him up and Groucho bit him. It was a nasty bite. Groucho sank his fangs deep into Rob's hand and shook his head from side to side. Rob practically threw him against the wall to make him let go. There was blood everywhere."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "My goodness. Did Rob see a doctor?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, he didn't think he needed to, because the wound didn't need stitches. But several days later, Rob noticed his right hand--the one that was bitten--was stiff and painful. I didn't think cat bites could inflict so much damage."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Animal bites can be serious, even from domestic animals. Their mouths are breeding grounds for bacteria. Has Groucho had all his shots?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, Rob's very conscientious about that. He'll take that fucking useless bag of feline entrails to the vet, but won't drive me to the hospital when his breed sow ex-wife squashes my foot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you're not bitter about that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Very funny. I'm surprised Groucho would do such a thing, he's usually a good-natured cat."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Groucho was probably upset by the stray cat at the back door. Male cats can be very territorial, even after neutering."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe I should bring them both in, and you can guide them through the relaxation exercises. You'll teach them to channel their anger towards constructive goals, like destroying the plants in the backyard."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "From my limited experience with felines, I've found it's almost impossible to teach them anything."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, you have a point there."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I want you to listen to that tape at least once a week, more if possible. The relaxation exercises are easy to do and they're very effective. If you practice the exercise regularly, you'll notice it'll become easier to control your outbursts."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, the subliminal message specifies a pastrami sandwich from the Carnegie Deli in New York."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you want fries with that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Coleslaw, please."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How about something to drink?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Coke will be fine, thanks."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Pepsi okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Perhaps a cream soda. Sharon, we're out of time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn, I was just starting to get into this role-playing game. \"Customer and deli-clerk\"--it's even more fun than \"master and servant\" or \"patient and therapist.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have a good week, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You too. Bye."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 30th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, August 21, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I heard from my lawyer. Actually, I heard from two lawyers--there must be an open sewer somewhere."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did your attorney say?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm going to have a preliminary hearing next month. The lab results still haven't come back; they always take forever. I've been doing some research, and I found some interesting information about rye mold on the Internet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I read about a scientist who researched hallucinogenics in the 1930's. He discovered that ergot--the parasitic fungal growth on rye and other grains--had hallucinogenic properties. The chemical composition of rye mold is similar to that of LSD; it contains a naturally occurring form of lysergic acid. A lot of people in the middle ages who were thought to be possessed by demons were most likely experiencing the effects of ingesting ergot, which can cause seizures and visions. During this era, there was much folklore about ergot. The Germans believed it was caused by a demon carried by the wind into their fields."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "In the late 1500's, people began using ergot for medicinal purposes. Midwives used it to ease the pain of childbirth. Ergot alkaloids are used in modern pharmaceuticals, like the migraine medication Cafergot. And I found some interesting things about LSD, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I hope your interest in this is purely academic."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was always too afraid to try acid. I thought I would end up a drooling idiot in a padded cell."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, shut up. I'm not quite there yet. I didn't know that LSD is similar in chemical composition to serotonin--the naturally occurring happy pill in your brain. LSD interferes with serotonin's normal action on the brain receptor sites. I didn't understand all the scientific jargon, but it seems that LSD acts on the brain chemistry to produce a dreamlike state in a waking person. With all my drug experimentation, there's so much I still don't know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Until just recently, I still believed a lot of the old anti-drug propaganda I learned in high school, like that crap about LSD giving you flashbacks for years afterward. All the acid heads I've met said they didn't have any flashbacks. Disseminating that kind of misinformation is morally wrong, if you ask me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not an expert on LSD, but I can say that it is something of a wild card. It's a highly unstable chemical compound. In its recreational form, LSD is often contaminated with other drugs, such as methamphetamine. LSD is a drug that produces very intense reactions. There are people who find an acid trip an extremely unsettling experience. And considering your recent experience with hallucinogenics, I don't recommend that you experiment with LSD."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't worry, I'm not going to."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You said you've heard from another attorney?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, this abrasive Chinese woman called me on Wednesday. I have to come in and give a deposition. Remember my old landlord? His wife filed for divorce. She's contesting her husband's visitation rights. She said that he sexually abused his kids."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are these the same people who used false sexual abuse allegations to evict you from your apartment?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Back in November, the wife said that I had inappropriately touched her five-year old son and if I didn't move out immediately, they would press criminal charges. I lost my deposit and most of my possessions."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "As I recall, you chose not to take any legal actions against them."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "After I talked to a lawyer, I realized I didn't have a chance."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What do you mean by that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was in a mental hospital last year after attempting suicide. I was in a drug rehab just a few months ago. And I was just arrested under the suspicion of cultivating hallucinogenics. How is that going to stand up in court? I'll be dismissed as a drugged-out nut case. Remember the McMartin Preschool Trial? They were acquitted. The allegations were shown to be fabricated. But the McMartins' entire lives were ruined--they were ostracized in their hometown, and they had their teaching licenses taken away. And what about that Woody Allen case? Mia Farrow accused him of molesting his adopted daughter, Dylan. Woody was acquitted, but that didn't make the front page news."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Besides, the Pigs--my landlord and his wife--don't have any money. I heard them fighting about money all the time--they were heavily in debt. With three kids and only a crummy building for income, they weren't worth suing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does the attorney want you to testify in the divorce case?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I think so. The lawyer for my landlord said she needed me to give a deposition."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That must be stressful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The enormity of it didn't hit me until I began finding out more information. I should have done research about false molestation claims last year when it happened. I was so busy with moving my things and working long hours, that I just tried to shut it out of my head. There are a lot of web sites devoted to the false sexual abuse accusations. There are even lawyers who specialize in it, and there are support groups for parents--mostly fathers--who are falsely accused."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did you find out?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "False allegations of sexual abuse are common in divorce cases. When I first heard Mrs. Piggy was divorcing her asshole husband, I felt almost happy for her until I remembered it was she who told me to get out. I couldn't stand her husband. I heard Pig Pen yelling at his wife and kids all the time. I'm sure that was why their son, Kyle, came knocking at my door. I felt sorry for him. I knew how he must have felt--hearing the Pigs screaming at each other reminded me of my home life. I used to spend hours at the library so I wouldn't have to go home."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How much time did you spend with Kyle?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It sounds like you're accusing me now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, Sharon, I'm not. I'm trying to get a sense of what your relationship with Kyle was like."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't mean to snap. I know I'm projecting. Everything you say makes me sound like a I'm a child molester."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think it would be helpful to talk about your feelings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Kyle came to see me almost every day. He'd be there waiting for me when I got home from work. He wasn't very articulate, I'm not sure if many five-year-olds are. He seemed a little slow for his age."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you like spending time with Kyle?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Even that question sounds prurient, but I know that's not what you mean. I could identify with him. You didn't need a Ph.D. to figure out that this kid had serious problems at home. He was a spaced-out little tyke with a vacant stare, as if he was on Valium. His mother had primitive methods of child care--she used to leave her kids slack-jawed in front of the TV all day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Once, I came home and found the baby wandering around in the street. A toddler in diapers in the middle of the street! I picked her up and took her home. Her mother didn't even know she was gone. Mrs. Piggy was the neighborhood babysitter; she provided day-care to about a dozen kids. She couldn't even keep her own rug rat out of the street, and yet she charged money to take care of other people's children."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was it this incident that made you call CPS?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, it was actually something else. I came home one day and found their cat bleeding and injured at my door. I ran to see if the Mrs. Piggy was home. She wasn't. The apartment reeked of marijuana, and the babysitter was asleep on the couch. When I went back to the apartment, I saw the kids poking and prodding at the cat. I was very upset. I yelled at them to go home. Finally, their pot head babysitter heard me screaming and asked what was wrong. I told her to watch the fucking kids and took the cat to the SPCA."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. What happened after that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The cat was put to sleep; he was hit by a car."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The Pigs couldn't even take care of a fucking cat, much less children. They didn't even feed it half the time--that's why it came to my house, I fed it. That's when I decided I'd had enough of their minimalist approach to child-rearing. I called Child Protective Services the next day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And what happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The CPS operator didn't even care. She said if a child was in an immediate danger, I should call the police. I didn't bother pursuing it. If they don't care about their own kids, why should I? Now I think I should have put up more of a fight."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What is your greatest fear about testifying in this case?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That they'll use the \"nuts and sluts\" strategy and say I'm not credible. They'll dig up my sordid past, my involvement with the S&M community, all the guys I slept with. I read an article about a case where a rape victim's gynecological records were subpoenaed--they wanted to see if she had any venereal diseases. What if they ask me about my sexual history at the deposition?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You should bring an attorney of your own to the deposition. You can call Legal Aid, they provide legal services at a sliding scale."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What if they make me take a polygraph test? I've heard the new tests are almost foolproof. What if I get nervous and fuck up and I'm branded a liar?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "To my knowledge, you can't be forced to take a polygraph test, and they are not admissible in court. Your lawyer can advise you on this, too."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's the father that's being accused, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, the wife filed for divorce and used the \"abuse excuse\" to keep Pig Pen away from her and the piglets."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're not the one being accused in this case. But I'm not an expert in this field. You should talk to an attorney. Your history and personal life may not be an issue."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What if the attorney wants to use my testimony to defend Pig Pen? That's sickening. I don't want to defend that piece of shit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You'd just be testifying as to what you saw and heard. That may be as damaging to Pig Pen as it is to his wife. You're a witness, not an advocate."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd almost forgotten about this. I was really upset when it first happened. I was fuming with hatred for both Pigs for months after the cat incident. I kept thinking of ways I could get revenge."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Were you able to work through some of your anger against them?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I kept telling myself that their lives were more fucked up than mine. The Pigs were trapped in lower-middle-class hell with two kids, not enough money, and a growing pile of debts. Mrs. Piggy used to be pretty, but she gained over a hundred pounds after having the kids. She was uneducated and had no job skills. She got pregnant as a teenager and was married right away. She didn't have a lot of options. I didn't think she would ever leave Pig Pen, no matter how badly he treated her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you witness any domestic violence or abuse?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Pig Pen's abuse was verbal not physical, but it was bad enough. He would curse and scream insults at his wife until she broke down crying. He did this in front of the kids. I'd hate to think my testimony would help him secure visitation rights. I wish a nice couple would adopt those kids."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand your feelings, but there is a limit to what you can do. For now, I want you to focus on your testimony. Talking to an attorney of your own--preferably one with a background in family law--will help you put this in perspective. The relaxation exercises on the tape will help reduce the anxiety and stress you're feeling. You might find it helpful to do the exercises before the deposition."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I can always lock myself in a bathroom stall and do it there. I'm surprised it really works, and it only takes a few minutes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I realize this is an upsetting event, but we're almost out of time, Sharon. I want to urge you once again to call Legal Aid and find an attorney who has some knowledge of family law. If you feel the need to talk about this some more with me, don't hesitate to call. The service can reach me when I'm not here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome. Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 31st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, September 11, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi. What happened to you last week?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I had a family emergency, I'm sorry that I had to cancel our appointments. Did you call Legal Aid?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I did. I paid fifty bucks to whine to this sensitive, pony-tailed guy in a wrinkled shirt named Fielding Walker. What kind of parents give their kid two last names? He looked so young, I didn't think he'd know what he was doing, but he had a lot of experience with family law. I felt a lot calmer after talking to him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was he able to advise you on your testimony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, Fielding assured me that it was unlikely that I would be charged with any criminal act. I thought I was going on trial as a child molester--I guess that wasn't very rational of me. He said the charges my landlord and his wife made were clearly fabricated because of the circumstances. They only made the accusation when I complained about the condition of my apartment, and they wanted to get me out of there and keep my deposit. My landlord said the false accusation was his wife's idea. When she used the same accusation to get rid of him, he decided to use me to back up his story."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I kept a journal at the time, and that helps my credibility. I know exactly when the events happened, I even wrote down the times. That was when I first started seeing you; you recommended that I keep a journal."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fielding coached me on how to act at my deposition--don't volunteer any information and only answer the question posed to me. We went through a practice session--he asked me questions, and then helped me with my responses."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How was the deposition?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Fielding said that my sexual history wouldn't matter, but I expected the worst. The other lawyer didn't ask about my sex life or anything too personal. Pig Pen's lawyer made certain that I specified that his wife made the accusation and told me to get out. I told the truth, but I felt dirty about it. I knew they were using me to corroborate his story. They were trying to discredit his wife, saying she'd made false accusations in the past."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fielding said that if the case went to court, I might be asked if I witnessed any domestic violence or abuse. There's a chance that my credibility may come under scrutiny in the courtroom. They might ask about my history as a slut, an S&M devotee, a heroin addict, a psilocybin-cultivator, and a mental patient. He said if that came up, the defense could make a motion to suppress it. I'm hoping I won't have to testify in the trial. I wish this would all go away."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This has brought back a lot of bad memories for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I can't stop obsessing about it. It's making me crazy. A few months ago, there was a paroled child-molester in Santa Rosa. He hanged himself when the local police enforced Megan's Law and notified his neighbors that he was a convicted sex offender. I saw a picture of him on the evening news; he was a fat, bald, middle-aged man. He looked like a big, hairy marshmallow. I felt sorry for him--I could understand how trapped he must have felt. That's sick, isn't it? I'm commiserating with a convicted child-molester. I should be feeling for the kids he abused."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can feel empathy for people without condoning what they do. You may feel compassion for that man, but that doesn't make you a pedophile."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know, I just...I'm not thinking straight. I needed to hear you say that. I need constant reassurance that I'm not a sickie. I'm edgy and paranoid all the time. I used to like to observe children at the mall or supermarket. I never talked to them or approached them, but I thought they were cute. I got a kick out of seeing them waddle around and get into trouble. Now, I feel like I can't even look at them any more. I feel sick to my stomach even telling you this. I probably sound like a closeted pedophile."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, Sharon, you don't. You've never expressed sexual attraction for children. In fact, you rarely talked about them until now. True, you've engaged in some rather unconventional sexual acts, but those were always with consenting adults. I don't believe you fit the profile of a sexual predator. The feelings you are expressing--paranoia, self-loathing--they are all brought on by this case. Your current aversion towards children--or rather an appearance of anything suggesting that you might be a child molester--is understandable."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I used to want to have kids. I don't anymore. I can imagine what a terrible mother I'd be. After living down the hall from the Pigs for a year, I decided there were too many fucked-up people procreating in this world, and I don't want to add to the problem. The Pigs are a textbook example of why some people shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. They were walking arguments for government-subsidized abortion and sterilization."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What other feelings and memories has this case brought up for you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, do you know my reawakened sexual interest? Well, it's withered away. I thought I was getting back to normal--I was being sexually active and enjoying it. I felt like a whole person again, even with my gimpy leg. I should have known it was too good to last. I can't even masturbate, it's too disgusting. I felt so putrid and gross, telling Fielding about my sordid past. He probably thinks of me as some used-up old whore. Tony's going to have to go elsewhere to get his rocks off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you talked to Tony about this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He'll figure it out. Besides, he has all his fag friends to keep him company. Tony only went out with me to make Sick Fuck jealous. Now, Tony'll be able to appease Sick Fuck by becoming his full-time butt boy. I bet Tony will even lick Sick Fuck clean after he takes a dump to conserve toilet paper."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A month ago, you expressed sympathy and concern for Tony. You even forgave him for withholding his HIV status from you. Now, it sounds like you want to cut off contact with him without even an explanation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, so?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's rather harsh, Sharon. What emotional impact do you think this will have on Tony?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Whose side are you on?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not taking sides..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm the one that's in a world of shit. I don't need a pushy bottom bi-boy on my ass. He'll find someone else. And if he doesn't, he can rely on your venerated profession for solace."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't look so disapproving. I'm drumming up extra business for you guys."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I can understand your anger, and I can see how this case can diminish your sexual interest. But taking it out on Tony is not right."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't control it. I'm angry all the time at myself, at the Pigs, at the whole fucking world. The Pigs deserve slow and painful deaths. They should kill themselves and spare their children the horror of having them as parents."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you know when their case will go to trial?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It could be a couple of months. Fielding said these things drag out for a long time. I'm relieved--I don't want to have to think about it for a while."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How are things at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob asked Charlotte to paint the bathroom--he even paid her for doing it! He's given her nearly sixty thousand dollars already as part of their settlement, and now he fucking pays her for desecrating our bathroom. He complains bitterly whenever she comes over. He hates it when she even calls him; it puts him in a foul mood for the rest of the evening. But the bathroom needs painting, according to the High Priestess of Wall Treatments, also known as the raging cunt breed sow. Rob didn't want to do it himself because of his hand."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has Rob seen a doctor about his hand?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, Rob went to a hand specialist a few weeks ago. They took an x-ray and couldn't find anything. They said it might be arthritis. Rob got a prescription for muscle relaxants, but it's not doing much good. He keeps dropping things."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Does Rob work at a computer terminal?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, he's a proud Luddite. Rob might use a computer at school for administrative stuff, but that's only because he has to. He's still in the stone-age--he uses an old, manual typewriter. It's not carpal tunnel syndrome, if that's what you're thinking. He bitches and whines about his hand more than I ever did with all the broken bones in my body. Men are such babies."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You should see what Charlotte did to the bathroom, it's beyond hideous. She found this article in the Martha Stewart rag describing how to texture wall surfaces. I don't know what's so objectionable about a plain white wall. Charlotte tried--tried is the operative word here--to create a faux-marble effect, using sponges and this marble pattern from the magazine. It was one of the most revolting things I'd ever seen. It was in this putrid orangy-pink color like rancid Peptol-Bismol. She painted on these wriggly lines--they were supposed to be the veins in the marble--with silver metallic paint. I think what I did was a great improvement, but Rob doesn't share my vision."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did you do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought of it as a Keith Haring tribute with an obscene twist. After Charlotte left, I used some old black paint and drew stick figures of a man fucking a hippopotamus and wavy lines around them to indicate ecstasy and intense thrusting. It was supposed to be of Rob and Charlotte, but I don't think the hippo was fat enough. I wanted to paint a metaphorical image of their marriage, but the only accurate representation would have been of a hippo attacking a man and then sitting on him, taking his wallet and gleefully running up all his credit cards. I wasn't sure how to portray that--the bathroom is so small, and I thought it would be too didactic and lack the primitive minimalism I was going for."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I felt rejuvenated afterward. The first layer of paint was still wet, so the orange and pink swirls mixed in with the black paint. I thought it looked really cool. My mind was reeling when I was done, but maybe that was just from inhaling paint fumes. I added some graffiti, too, to give it that New York subway look. I was in the midst of scrawling, \"Martha Stewart Sucks Big Donkey Dicks For Breakfast,\" when Rob walked in. He was upset when he saw it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not surprised."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He had to use several thick coats of white, high-gloss paint to cover up the black. We ended up with a plain white wall, which was what we originally had. It was all very Zen. I told him he had great potential as a monochromatic minimalist."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob complained constantly about how much it hurt to paint with his bad hand. That was actually very satisfying--he didn't do much to help me when I first broke my foot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I find it interesting that you enjoyed the act of painting."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't worry, I'm not going get artsy-fartsy on you. I've stopped shaving my armpits, though. Maybe that's a bad omen."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, your recent circumstances would be stressful and difficult for anyone. A creative outlet like painting would be an effective way to express your feelings and discharge your negative emotions. I would recommend, however, that you confine your creative expressions to paper."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn. I was going to follow you home and tag the side of your house."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Very funny. Give it a try, okay? Take a blank sheet of paper and paint, write, or draw something the next time you feel a need to express your feelings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Take care, Sharon. I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 32nd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, September 18, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Have you been talking to Rob?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I don't discuss your sessions with anyone, you know that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because it seems you've convinced Rob of your theory--I need a diversion to keep me out of trouble. When I told him I decided against taking any courses, he enrolled me in a class and volunteered me for an ESL program. ESL stands for English as a Second Language or Extremely Slow Learner, depending on whom you ask. I got stuck tutoring all the dumb ones, the ones who got low scores on the Tofu Test."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You mean the TOEFL test?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, what I said. I get to tutor Tofu rejects for the rest of the year. The class he signed me up for produces the Shitty College Literary Magazine. And when I'm not spoon-feeding brain-dead immigrant teenagers, I'll be slogging through bad poetry written by lovesick, adolescent girls. It's a fate worse than death. I want to slit my throat right now just thinking about it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's not so bad."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's even worse. I might throttle a slow-learning student in frustration. Also, it's not a good idea--if the State Disability people find out I'm doing something that resembles work, they'll cut off my disability checks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's not very likely."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "They send out spies to check if you're really disabled. A lot of people get in trouble for falsely claiming disability. They say they have a bad back, and then someone catches them lifting weights or doing construction work. I saw it on \"Hard Copy.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's always a good source of information. You won't be doing strenuous physical labor, and it will only be for a few hours a week. I think you can manage tutoring a few students and a little proofreading. You might be able to do a lot of it at home."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob said the same thing. You're both in a conspiracy against me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You haven't even given it a try."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I have. The class started on Monday. I hate it already."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you're giving it a fair chance."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "To be honest, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Our teacher, Doris, is the sort of old woman who scares small children with her wild hair and long green fingernails. When one of the students commented on her nails, Doris explained that all her life she bit her nails until she had to get false teeth. And for dramatic effect, she popped out her teeth. She looks like she might have a broomstick stashed in the big purse she always carries. She lives in Berkeley, of course, in run-down old house with about twenty cats. We got into an argument the first day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm almost afraid to ask, but what did you argue about?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did Doris react?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was hoping she would order me out of her classroom, but she was more amused than annoyed. We bantered back and forth, and she even agreed with me about Delaplane. No one else participated much. There were twelve students in the class, and they may as well have been comatose. I don't usually participate in class discussions, but I was so over-caffienated I thought, \"What the hell?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you talk to any of the other students?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not directly. Doris went around the room and asked who our favorite writers were. This big goon, in head-to-toe goth regalia, said he loved Anne Rice. I said that she was a self-indulgent hack who had become a bad parody of herself, and \"The Mummy\" was an embarrassing piece of shit, but the \"Sleeping Beauty\" series couldn't be beat for one-handed reading."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did your classmates react?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Goth Spice was pissed--those vampire wanna-bes are so sensitive. An androgynous-looking Japanese girl kind of smiled. This woman with a big ass and a face like Herman Munster's asked what I meant by one-handed reading. I said, \"A jack-off book,\" and she turned red. These two guys who sat together in the back, Beavis and Butthead, started hooting. A frizzy-haired woman sipping a Big Gulp had a disapproving look on her face."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. What did you say when it was your turn?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I said my favorite writer was the guy who writes \"Dilbert.\" I had a feeling they wouldn't know the name Scott Adams--they weren't a very literate group. There were a lot of Anne Rice and Stephen King fans. Big Gulp self-righteously proclaimed that she only read the classics, which got Doris raving about \"The Great Gatsby.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When the class took a break, the big-assed woman got up, and I saw how revealing her clothes were. The sight of a homely middle-aged woman in painted-on jeans showing cleavage made me think \"desperate\" and \"skanky.\" As she was leaving, Beavis nudged Butthead and said, \"Check out Camel Toe,\" because her jeans were so tight you could see all her anatomy, you know, the outline of her..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I get the picture."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, anyway, I hope I don't end up like that. When the class reconvened, Doris continued with her poll. Camel Toe was a Danielle Steele fan--what a shocker. The boyish-looking Japanese girl--I'll call her L'il Dyke--said that she'd been reading women writers. Beavis turned to Butthead and mouthed \"lesbian,\" and they snorted and laughed. L'il Dyke didn't respond, but I could see her jaw tighten. She was sitting a few desks away from me. I leaned in her direction and whispered, \"You just know those guys have to be closet cases. They should change their names from Beavis and Butthead to Fuggin' Kweer and Fat Faggot.\" She laughed a little, which made me feel good."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Isn't that a departure for you? In previous sessions, you've said that you find social situations difficult, but in this class you seem to have no problem expressing yourself and talking to strangers."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I noticed that, too. I think it's because I went in with the attitude that I didn't give a shit what anyone thought. I was secretly hoping that I would be expelled, but my plan backfired."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "At the end of class, Doris asked me if I knew any desktop publishing programs, and I was stupid enough to reply that I had experience with Pagemaker and Quark Xpress. With an evil grin on her face, she appointed me editor of the Shitty Rag. She proclaimed that I was astute, very perceptive, and a good critic. Maybe she did it to punish me for being so mouthy. I was surprised, and so was Big Gulp--her jaw dropped. I have a feeling she wanted the title of editor; she was so pompous and arrogant. I can't wait to see what she turns in next week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's your assignment for next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We have to bring in a poem, an essay, or a short story. Doris said she wanted all of us to be published in the Shitty Rag. I thought the class would consist of desktop publishing and proofreading, but we have to write, too. Doris said she had some contributions from the previous semester, but not enough to fill all the pages."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Have you started on your assignment yet?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I don't know what to write. Rob used to write poetry. Maybe I'll plagiarize one of his old poems."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not give yourself a chance?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob's the writer, I was very impressed when I read his poetry. I could never write as well as he does. He's even been published in some local anthologies. That's how he wooed Charlotte; they were both in college and working at the same restaurant. He was a cook, and she was a waitress. He won her over by writing her love poems on napkins and paper bags. Isn't that corny? I'll admit, I was jealous when he told me that. He doesn't write any more, and even if he did, he'd never write poems for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can't be sure of that. Don't compare yourself to others, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. You don't necessarily have to write poetry. You've expressed some strong opinions here, why not put your rants on paper?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's an idea."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you don't like the results, you can always write something else."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm ambivalent about doing anything even remotely artistic. I don't want to become some pretentious, self-important, artsy-fartsy type. San Francisco is riddled with them--those horrid people in black who hang out in cafes, always pontificating about the importance of their latest work-in-progress."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That guy in my class, Goth Spice, reminded me of someone I went out with. He made a big show of being a suffering artist by wearing black clothes and boots even on the hottest summer days. He wouldn't deign to let me read any of his unpublished novels because \"they weren't ready.\" What he really meant was that he didn't think I was smart enough to understand all the deep symbolism and shit. His work was rejected by several publishers, but he kept plugging away, churning out reams of drivel. I hope he never becomes a best-selling author, because that would make me very depressed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't have to emulate these people to explore your creative side."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It comes with the territory."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not necessarily. Not all artists have the affectations you describe."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Last week, you were pushing this creative thing on me, so I did this in class."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 33rd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, September 25, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not so bad, I guess. I've made my feeble attempt at a short story."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Your classroom assignment?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I was afraid we would have to read them aloud, but Doris got off on a tangent and spent the class talking about the theater. A troupe is putting on a production of \"Troilus and Cressida,\" a Shakespeare play I hadn't even heard of. Doris spent most of the class discussing it with Big Gulp--the frizzy-haired harridan and classical literature aficionado. I think they put just about everyone to sleep, except Beavis and Butthead, who snickered every time they said the word \"Trojan.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Last session, you said you established rapport with one of the girls in your class."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, Li'l Dyke. She had pink streaks in her hair this week, and she painted her nails to match. I told her it looked nice; she said thank you, but not much else. I've tried to talk to her, but I had a feeling that I wasn't cool enough with my monochromatic tresses. Graying temples don't give you any points towards coolness."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I had a breakthrough, of sorts."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've never really understood the dynamic among women. I don't have many women friends, at least not for very long. When I was chatting up Li'l Dyke, I sensed she was withdrawing from me. I didn't know why; I thought I was being nice instead of my usual surly self. Maybe she knew I was a big phony. She was carrying an instrument case, and I asked if she played the violin. She smirked and said, \"Duh.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did you do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought I had nothing to lose, so I tried a different tack. I said that the Shitty College orchestra was known for its mediocrity. She sniffed and informed me that she was a student at the San Francisco Music Conservatory. She was only taking this class because she wanted a change of pace. I told her that most classically trained musicians where little more than machines and that music conservatories were like factories, cranking out these machines by the dozen. That got her attention. I challenged her; I asked to hear her play. Li'l Dyke rolled her eyes and made a face. But after class, we went to a practice room at the conservatory."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And she played a piece by Vaughn Williams, the Skylark Concerto. I admit, I was impressed--it's a difficult piece. But I knew I wouldn't win her over by praising her, so I told her that she used too much rosin and needed to work on her vibrato. I said that she didn't have the maturity or depth to interpret the piece and that she played like yet another classically-trained automaton."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did she respond?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She was annoyed. I added that if she ever wanted to become a soloist, she'd have to use the Midori Ito public relations ploy and play up her flat-chested, androgynous sexuality, and hope the latent pedophiles would buy tickets in droves. That pissed her off; she told me to shut up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That was very harsh criticism, Sharon. Did you know what you were talking about? The piece you're referring to isn't a concerto, it's a tone poem called The Lark Ascending. And that last comment was really uncalled for. You know from personal experience that girls that age are extremely self-conscious about their looks."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, whatever. My parents forced me to take piano for years, but I wasn't very good. Most of what I know about classical music I learned from listening to KDFC 102.1 FM."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Last week, you came to this girl's defense when a guy in your class called her names. Why the sudden change? I thought you wanted to make friends with her."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A recovering Suzuki brat who dyes her hair and dresses like a little boy while slumming at Shitty College doesn't want accolades. She's been patted on the head for performing like a good little monkey all her life. If I had told Li'l Dyke how great she was, I wouldn't have made any impression on her at all. When I complimented her in class, she barely acknowledged me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Has she called?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh, no. I'm half-hoping she won't, because then I would have to run out and buy that book. That was an interesting experience, though. I felt a rush for days afterward."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did you plan this confrontation?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, it came in a flash. I knew I was taking a big risk doing it, but I didn't care. I kept telling myself, \"She's a teenager, what do you care what she thinks?\" If she told me to go to hell, or worse, if she just ignored me, I would have just avoided her for the rest of the semester."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Last weekend, the Tofu Rejects reared their soft, malformed heads. They're quite frightening."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You began tutoring the ESL students? How did that go?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It amazes me that these kids have such poor language skills. I don't want to spend the whole session ranting..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, you would never do that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Very funny. I spent two hours with these kids, and I wanted to tear my hair out. I wasn't so much angry at them, but at the whole system that allowed them to graduate from high school with little more than rudimentary English skills. A few of them I could barely understand, their accents were so thick. I can understand why a non-native speaker would have trouble with English spelling and grammar. Granted, English isn't an easy language, and American idioms can be confusing. But the Tofu Rejects I saw could barely string five words together to make a sentence, and they're high school graduates! Those liberal dolts who promote bilingual education should get a load of these kids, they'd change their tune pretty fast. I'm really glad I was never in a bilingual program, or I'd be fucked, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was your first language Japanese?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, my father wasn't home much, so I imprinted on my mother and her friends. When we first came to the States, I couldn't speak any English at all. I learned by watching \"Sesame Street.\" I had to learn quickly, too; I had no choice"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You were born in Japan. Doesn't that make you an immigrant?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I know where you're going with this, but it's different. I've assimilated, I've learned the language and the culture. My mother struggled for years to learn English, she didn't start speaking it until she was over thirty. My mother wasn't very educated to begin with, even in her own language. She came from a rural area, and in her generation, farm families didn't send their daughters to school. She worked really hard, going to night school for years to learn English and take citizenship classes. My mother is not very Americanized. She's still hard to understand, and she's a lousy driver, but at least she tried. I give her points for trying."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "While I can understand your frustration, keep in mind that there's no need to take it out on these kids. Cultural assimilation is a slow process."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes I kind of feel for the Tofu Rejects, but all my compassion evaporates once they start to piss me off. A lot of them don't even make an effort. They don't do the reading or even attempt to start on their assignments. They want me to do all the work for them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can use the relaxation technique I've shown you to help you focus on the task, rather than dwell on the things that anger you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I've been doing that. Sometimes, I take a break and do some deep breathing. What pisses me off is that so many teens from immigrant families don't even need to assimilate. They live in self-segregation. Everyone in their neighborhoods comes from the same or a similar culture as they do. They choose to associate only with people from their homeland. And a lot of them were really arrogant--I could tell they thought English classes were a waste of time. This one fat Korean boy, an accounting major, didn't even pretend to care. He kept saying, \"This is hard for me.\" He knew as a CPA he'd earn a better living than any English major by cooking the books of a Korean-owned business. He didn't need our stinking language."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Be patient, Sharon. A lot of times, teaching is patience and perseverance."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd much rather club them over the head with an unabridged dictionary."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think many English teachers feel the same way. And I'm sure at least some of the students do appreciate the effort you're making."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, they don't. They want me to spoon-feed them the answers. God forbid they should actually think."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Be patient, Sharon. And keep breathing deeply."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Are you going to throw me out now?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's about that time. Take care, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, thanks."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 34th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, October 2, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. How are you doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Women suck, you know that? If I were a man, I'd be a misogynist. A gay misogynist. Hell, I'm a woman and I'm a misogynist."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you like women, Doctor?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you're asking me as a man, that's just not relevant..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I thought so. You have a faggy look..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm just busting your balls. I'm in a foul mood, it's even worse than usual. As Rob says, \"I'm full of piss and vinegar.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What put you into such a foul mood?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Lila--that girl from my class--we went out for a drink. At first, I was really happy, because it seemed my efforts to win her over had paid off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. So she called you after all?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, she didn't call, but she talked to me after class. She got that book I told her about, she found it at the conservatory library. After class, we went to a bar in Bernal Heights called Wild Side West. It's one of the oldest lesbian bars in the city. Bernal Heights is an enclave for gay yuppies. I wasn't sure if Lila was actually a dyke or if she just looked like one--a lot of young girls wear boys clothes. Lila looks so young, she could pass for a grade-school tomboy. I was surprised they'd let her in the bar. They didn't even card her. The bartender must have seen her in there before."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I drank Diet Coke; I didn't want to get drunk and make a fool out of myself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good thinking."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Lila sat next to me for a bit, and then excused herself to go to the bathroom. I sat there and watched these women play pool. I really liked the bar. It was dark, and the fixtures were old and run-down. They even allow people to bring in their dogs. When Lila came back from the bathroom, she sat at the bar but a few stools away from me. I didn't get it at first."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Get what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She wasn't there to be with me, she was there hoping to meet someone else. She was looking around the room; she barely spoke to me. She caught the eye of this tall athletic-looking woman with short, blonde hair. They were flirting and laughing just a few seats away from me. I felt like shit. Maybe she did it to get back at me for what I said to her last week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you know how animals make a big show of ignoring you by grooming themselves? Our cat does it, and the bunny does it, too. They'll sit right in front of you and clean themselves meticulously. It's their way of saying, \"Fuck you.\" Lila was doing the lesbian equivalent. She made sure I saw her. And then she picked the most attractive woman there to charm, and she succeeded. She was doing it to fuck with me, the same way I fucked with her the week before."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I didn't realize until now that you had more than a platonic interest in this girl."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Anyway, I got sick of watching her ignore me and got up and left. Lila noticed I was leaving and said, \"Hey, Chiquita, where are you going? Do you have a date?\" She and the blonde both laughed. I wanted to wheel-smack her little head against the bar. I went home instead."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you didn't act on your impulses."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't a chance--those dykes would have beat the shit out of me, even if I was in a cast. Lila's so tiny, I would have looked like an ogre attacking her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been involved with women sexually before?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've had sex with a few women. Most of them were just into mind-fucking. Now that being a dyke is considered cool, there are a lot of poseurs out there. In fact, it's really common in the gay and lesbian community. I've had this sort of thing happen to me before, and I've heard of it happening to other people. Maybe it's my own fault for wanting something I couldn't have."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you see Lila as some sort of conquest?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How's the class going, by the way?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I thought it was going to be an easy \"A.\" But since Doris appointed me the editor, I'll actually have to do some work. I tried to get the Big Gulp woman to help me proofread some of the entries, but she was so critical--she hated everything. I decided it would be best to keep her out of it. I'm going to be stuck doing all the work myself, I just know it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Can't you delegate some of the duties to the other class members?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That class isn't exactly a brain trust. There aren't many students, and they only took this class because they didn't want to have to work for a grade. It's one of those throwaway elective courses."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can try talking to Doris. There's no reason why you have to shoulder all of the burden yourself."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I can ask her. I'm not sure that she'd be willing to strong-arm anyone into helping me. Doris has a minimalist teaching style. She's also not computer literate, so the word-processing and page layouts are all up to me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When is the deadline for this magazine?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It needs to be ready for the printer two weeks before school's out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have a few months to work on it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doris sent memos to all the English and art teachers, asking for student submissions. We also posted notices around campus, asking students to turn in writing and artwork. You should see what they've turned in so far. Some of the poems were plagiarized word-for-word. I even recognized an old top-forty hit from Air Supply. Actually, that was kind of funny. The stories and essays are so bad they're almost unreadable. I'm really starting to dread this. At first, it was kind of exciting, and I thought it would be a good experience--desktop publishing can come in handy. What if the Shitty Rag lives up to its name? I don't want to be associated with an anthology of dreck."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That incident with Lila made me think of something that I'd put out of my mind. I went out with...well, actually, I just fucked this guy who worked in the same building as I did. He was a self-involved egomaniac, a real prick. And of course I had the hots for him, because he treated me like shit. He stood me up, criticized my weight and my appearance, even made fun of the way I talked. I was pathetic. When he wouldn't return my calls, I practically begged him to see me again. He told me that he had an image of the perfect complement to him, and it wasn't me. What he really wanted was a Stepford wife--someone he could take to the company picnic and who would make a good impression on the people he worked with. He wanted a thin, social, vapid Barbie doll who knew how to play the game. To him, I was just a loser who couldn't play the game. That was almost ten years ago. And here I am now. I'm still a loser who doesn't know how to play."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But do you really want to play this game?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I used to think that I didn't, that I was above that. I wouldn't have been content being a trophy wife to a work-obsessed corporate cretin, even if he did have a good income. I found ways to occupy myself that didn't bring me into contact with too many people. I really like the fact that Rob is socially isolated, too. We stay home most nights and watch television. I convinced myself that this is what I really want. This is the life that I'm best suited to."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you reassessing that judgment now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What I found so alluring about Lila was that she represented something I thought I'd left behind. The women I chased before--the ones I couldn't have--I dismissed as being beneath me. They didn't have my interests or share my values. Some of them I could hardly stand to talk to for more than a few minutes. When I saw Lila flirting with that blonde, I would have given anything to trade places with either of them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Would you say your sexual desire has resurfaced?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, it's not really sexual. It's more about status or something. What I really like is the idea of having a girlfriend. Lesbians are so cool."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I mean I want to fuck her, but that's not the primary attraction."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Have you ridden Muni lately? What a fucking mess! I was stuck on the N-Judah train for over an hour yesterday!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think we should continue exploring your feelings for Lila."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And the worst part of it is that all the laid-back San Franciscans aren't protesting. If this happened in New York, there would been rioting in the streets."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I say we lynch Willie Brown."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd like to see him hanging from the highest tree with that stupid hat on his head. If we nailed it down, the hat wouldn't blow away. Where the hell does he get off, riding around in a limo accompanied by a goddamned motorcade, while the rest of the city has to rely on a broken-down transit system?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And those thousand-dollar suits--they've got to go. This city is in a major pile of shit, with broken down buses and no place to park. Willie-boy can shop at the fucking K-Mart."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're always free to vent here, Sharon, but I..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I better go. I've got to wait for my bus. It always takes at least an hour."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon, you're right. Our time is up. I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 35th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, October 9, 1998 at 10:00 am."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi. This is for you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. What is it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's a short story I wrote for class. I though you might want to take a look at it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I do want to read it; I'll take a look at it later. Thank you. Now, how was your week, Sharon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Were you still angry with her about the incident at the bar?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I had gotten over that. I listened to that tape you gave me, and some of those techniques actually worked."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good, I'm glad to hear you're using the tape. So were you trying to ignore Lila?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, but I lost my resolve by break time. That guy on the tape was right--it's a lot of work to stay angry. I asked Lila how she was doing. She didn't mention the blonde from last week. After class, she asked if I wanted to go to her house. Her parents were going out that night; she said we could order pizza and watch TV. I thought it sounded harmless enough, so I said yes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Please continue."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure Lila's mother will appreciate that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Lila shouted for me to come upstairs to her room. I was on crutches--not all houses are wheelchair accessible. As I was working my way up the stairs, I had this sense of foreboding, as if something was not quite right, but I ignored it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When I finally got to her room, she was sitting on the bed, waiting expectantly. I sat on the bed--there were no chairs in the room. Lila must have taken out the chair that belonged to her desk set for my benefit. She wore a sleeveless half-shirt and jeans with holes at the knees. She wanted to show me something--a book on her nightstand. When she got up, I saw her jeans had holes in the back, and she wasn't wearing any underwear."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She sat close to me on the bed, on the pretext that she wanted to read me a passage. I thought it was that Casals book, but when she began reading, I knew it was something else. I caught a glimpse of the cover--she was holding it so I couldn't see--it was an anthology of lesbian erotica called \"Bushfire.\" I'd read it a few years ago."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. What was going through your mind at that point?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was angry. I felt manipulated. At the same time, I also felt like I had to prove myself. She was teasing me, daring me, bending over to pick things up with those holes in her pants."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I took the book from her hand and tossed it onto the floor. She had a little smirk on her face. I wanted to smack her. Instead, I pulled her towards me and kissed her. She kept her mouth tightly closed. At first, I thought I'd misread her. But when I pulled back, she was smiling, taunting me. I said, \"Stand up,\" and pulled her up by the waistband of her jeans. She said, \"You're giving orders now?\" But she got off the bed and stood in front of me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got her to take off her clothes, and then I tried to play with her tits--what there was of them. She pushed my head down and said, \"Get to the good part.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did that make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Angry. I knew she was using me, but I was turned-on at the same time. And I could tell she was excited, too. So I pulled her onto the bed and did what she wanted."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was it what you wanted?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I enjoyed it, the physical part anyway. I hadn't done that in a long time; I'd forgotten what it was like. I always thought that a wet pussy smells like hot buttered popcorn. Is that what it smells like to you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And it tastes like McDonald's sweet and sour sauce for Chicken McNuggets. Anyway..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You always interrupt at the good parts."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, it's..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She seemed to like it when I put my finger inside her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I get the idea."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I got two, three, and then four fingers into her easily--I think she must have done that before. And maybe there wasn't much of a stretch--my hands are pretty small, see?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I see. Sharon, our job here is not to dwell on the details of your sexual encounters. What we should be doing is discussing how this encounter made you feel. Did you feel..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I brought all my fingers and my thumb together, to form a point..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you're..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And then, it was like I was sucked in--my hand was all the way in before I even realized it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you take any precautions?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fisting women isn't a high risk activity."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "On the contrary. It causes rents and tears, and you came into direct contact with her vaginal secretions. You really should have used gloves and some sort of barrier protection. And..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you always carry a full arsenal of safer-sex supplies in your pocket?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Anyway, I didn't bring any. I didn't care at the time, my mind was buzzing. It was very intense, I felt this strong connection to her, having a part of me inside her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, but..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I could feel her contractions as she came, and it was like I was having an orgasm, too. After she came, Lila pushed me off and went to the bathroom. When she came out, she said she needed to make a phone call; she already had the phone in her hand. I could tell by her tone that she was finished with me--it was time for me to show myself out. As I left, she chirped, \"Thanks for stopping by.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How did you feel, Sharon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How the fuck do you think I felt? I felt like shit! I felt like I'd been kicked in the stomach. I knew all along she was just using me, but she didn't have to be so blatant about it. There was not even a thank you or a fuck you, just get out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. What did you do after you left her house?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I caught the bus and stared out the window at the lights. I was so dazed, I missed my stop and ended up on the other side of Golden Gate Park. Since I was in the area, I decided to drown my sorrows at the Big Heart Cafe, that tacky all-night diner on Geary."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When I walked in, the waitress gave me a funny look. I didn't realize why until I started picking at my face--I didn't even think to stop by the bathroom before I left Lila's house. I ordered first, then I went to the bathroom and washed my face and hands. My reflection in the bathroom mirror looked so pathetic. I went back to the table and spent the next few hours staring at big-screen TV while shoveling ice cream into my mouth."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Never underestimate the therapeutic value of sugar and carbohydrates. In the short-term, it's much more effective than psychoanalysis, no offense."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "None taken."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When I was finished, I went back to the bathroom, got on my knees on the tile floor, and shoved the two fingers that had been inside of Lila down my throat. I forced myself to vomit until there was nothing left inside me. I looked in the mirror as I rinsed out my mouth. I looked like a newborn infant; my face was pink and raw, my eyes were almost swollen shut. The paper towel dispenser was empty, so I had to dry off with toilet paper and then pick little flecks off my face afterward."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Why did you make yourself vomit?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I told myself I was stupid for allowing this to happen. She only wanted me to service her, so she could brag about her conquest. All my sexual experiences are like that. Whether I'm with a man or a woman, I'm always the one on my knees doing the wet work. No one ever gives a shit about getting me off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you're hurt and angry, and I do think you were used this time. But from what you've told me, you don't always communicate your needs to your partner. When you want something, the best way to get it is to ask for it directly, like Lila did."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What the fuck do I have to do, spell it all out for them? Write it in the sky with an airplane? Do an interpretive dance?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You could ask, tell, or show your partner directly how you like to be touched or what sort of sexual activity you prefer."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That wouldn't have worked with that selfish little cunt. And it's common courtesy--when someone gets you off, you should do it for them in return. She didn't even express any gratitude. Why did she have to do that to me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Lila is very young. Teenagers are extremely self-centered. She may not have realized the emotional impact of what she did to you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. I think she knew exactly what she was doing and the effect it would have on me, but she just didn't care. I don't know if it bothered me even more because she was female. If a man had done that, I would have dismissed him as yet another asshole. With a woman, it seems like a personal betrayal. I spent all night fuming about it. I was enraged, and I was almost in tears as I waited for my bus outside the Big Heart Cafe. When it finally arrived, I wanted to throw myself in front of it. When I got in bed with Rob, he rolled toward me and put his arms around me. I usually hate it when he does that because he generates so much body heat. He's always warm and sweaty. But that night, it felt good, kind of. I could feel myself wanting to cry. I held my breath and willed myself not to. Rob asked if I was okay. I said, \"Yeah,\" and he went back to sleep."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you tell Rob what happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. He and Charlotte had a don't ask, don't tell policy. He probably suspects something, but wants to be spared the gory details."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you feel talking about this now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I feel like the world's biggest loser. I should always wear a t-shirt with \"welcome\" written across it. I act like a fucking door mat."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't want to talk anymore. Our time's up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you sure you're all right, Sharon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I'll wallow in self-pity for a while and take a nap. Then I'll be fine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. You can call me. If I'm not here, my answering service will contact me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 36th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, October 16, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. Come in. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was...hmm, I guess it was interesting. I ran into Lila again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "In your class?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, actually, I cut a class to avoid her. I met with Doris later to get the assignments."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. So how did you happen to bump into Lila?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's that horrible tutoring program. Lila is an ESL student, and her Tofu test score wasn't very good. I'm not sure why that matters, because she's a music major. I'll bet her parents are pushing her; they want a well-rounded overachiever for a daughter."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Lila is Japanese, right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I thought she was born in the states, but it turns out she's an \"Iisei\"--a first generation immigrant like me. Or is it \"Nisei?\" I always forget. I'm not sure if I can be Iisei or Nisei, because I'm just a half-breed, and I don't really count anyway."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you notice Lila's English was limited before?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's hard to tell, she doesn't say much. She has a slight accent, but that's not so unusual when you live in a non-English speaking household. I wonder if she spent most of her school years practicing or learning music theory instead of taking regular courses. Lila's mother called me over the weekend. She said she got my number from the school and asked if I would tutor her daughter. I didn't realize who it was--Lila's mother sounded like a nice Japanese lady with a pronounced accent. She seemed very eager to have me; she said that it was difficult to find a decent tutor on short notice, and that I had been well-recommended. Go figure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When did you realize you were going to be tutoring Lila?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When I got the address. Lila's mom wanted me to go to their house--typical rich bitch. She couldn't have Lila meet me halfway at a library. Lila looked surprised when she opened the door. She was just as rude as ever. She didn't even offer me a glass of water or ask me to sit down."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did that make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wasn't sure if it was deliberate, but I sensed that it was. It bugged me a lot. Japanese parents usually beat good manners into their children, especially girls. But then again, Lila's mom was snotty when I first saw her. Maybe they thought I was beneath them, like a servant."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Were Lila's parents home when you came over?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, she was all by herself. Their house looked like a place where no one really lives. They had white carpeting and white furniture. Everything looked pristine and untouched. Lila didn't even invite me in, she just stood there with a blank look on her face. I suggested that we sit at the kitchen counter, and she followed me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So were you supposed to help her with her homework?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I tried to. I went over some Tofu test practice drills. I may as well have been singing in Arabic, she barely responded. I moved on to the material for her English class. Lila's mother had told me she was several weeks behind. I also knew Lila hadn't turned in any assignments in Doris' class."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I asked Lila what she had read so far, and she shrugged. I couldn't figure out if she was feeling shy and self-conscious about our previous encounter, or if she was giving me the cold shoulder. I tried being nice, being an understanding tutor. I even excused myself to the bathroom to do that deep-breathing/visualizing thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to hear that, Sharon. Were you getting angry?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. After about twenty minutes of her shrugs and \"I don't knows,\" I was ready to slap her. I tried to cool down--that's when I went to the bathroom. When I got back, I tried different techniques. Some ESL students like to read aloud, so I can help them with words and idiomatic expressions. But that didn't work with Lila--she wasn't even willing to try. It's the Tofu rejects who don't even try that piss me off the most. I hate it when they want me to spoon-feed the answers and do the work for them. I don't know why I even bother; most of them don't care."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did you react to Lila's indifferent response?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I told Lila I couldn't help her if she didn't meet me halfway. She didn't say anything at first, then she touched my arm and asked coyly, \"Can we do something else?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was furious. She'd wasted enough time already. My first impulse was to walk out. Maybe I should have."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What did you do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I had a sudden inspiration, a way to motivate her. I asked her to sit on my lap, and she did. I put my arms around her and made out with her a little. She still wouldn't kiss me; I wondered if I had bad breath. I took off her shirt. She balked at removing her jeans, so I pinched her nipples and bottom. She seemed to like that--she got up and took off her jeans, making a big show out of wiggling out of them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "When she climbed naked into my lap again, I teased her with my hand, the way she liked. While I rubbed her, I said that I had ways of making her study. She said, \"You can't make me,\" and I had to rise to the challenge."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon! You were her tutor. That was completely inappropriate..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I taunted her with slaps and titty-twisters, and got her to squeal a few times. Then I made her read from her text while I rubbed her clit. When she slowed down or stumbled over a word, I would stop."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, what you did was very inappropriate."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I let her continue reading. When she stopped or stumbled, I hit the back of her head with my hand, lightly at first, then harder. When my hand started to hurt, I pushed her off my lap and told her to keep reading. I got a wooden spoon from the kitchen and used that instead."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "After a few good whacks, she was crying. I ordered her to read while she sobbed, I made her answer the questions at the end of the section."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon! What were you thinking..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I had a strange feeling as this was happening. I felt detached and empty. I was also excited, but not really sexually--it was more the feeling of getting away with doing something bad, like stealing a piece of candy."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can't believe you did this, Sharon. Aside from the fact that this was outrageously wrong, do you realize what can happen to you if Lila tells her mother?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know she won't. I had a Japanese mother, too; this is not the sort of thing you tell them. At one point, she did threaten to tell on me. I bluffed, I said her mother had given me permission to hit her and if she ran crying to mommy, she was going to get it from one or both of her parents. She shut up after that. Besides, I don't think her mother would have minded too much. Japanese families believe in corporal punishment. I'm sure Lila got worse from her parents, particularly since she was a music student--they get the shit beaten out of them; that's how they learn to play so well."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This doesn't excuse what you did. What you did was abuse, Sharon. Lila may have been insensitive and rude to you, but that it no way justifies non consensual S&M play as a form of revenge. And during a tutoring session..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She gave her consent when she sat on my lap."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That hardly constitutes consent to being beaten. As I recall, you had some unsavory experiences in the S&M Community, where you felt pressured into doing things you didn't want. Have you forgotten that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, but it comes with the territory. If you don't want to get hit by a car, don't play in the street. If Lila's going to play mind games, she's going to get fucked over in return. A man would not have been as understanding and compassionate as I was."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you consider what you did understanding and compassionate?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Submissives and masochists can take more pain when they're sexually aroused. That's the way it is for me. I made sure she was sexually excited before I hit her. Besides, I stopped after she cried a little."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I hope for your sake Lila doesn't tell her parents or a school official. You could face criminal charges for this, Sharon. And that's in addition to the ones you're already facing for drug manufacturing."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She won't say anything. She's learned to keep it all inside, just like me. We're cut from similar cloth. I think it was therapeutic for me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Therapeutic? How so?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "While I was watching her sitting there, sobbing, I thought this is what parents must feel like when they beat their kids. I felt powerful and angry. And at the same time it made me cringe--I knew how frightened and humiliated she was. It made me think of the way my mother and her friends used to compare notes on whether to use a paddle, a shoe, or a belt. They used to have these bragging sessions about whose discipline was harsher and more frequent. I've long suspected that parents who use corporal punishment enjoy inflicting it on some level. They probably have latent S&M tendencies that they don't realize."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You had that epiphany at Lila's expense?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fuck her. If that little shit hadn't disrespected me, I wouldn't have done it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's no excuse. Lila is a teenager, in many ways still a child."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She's old enough to want sex and to manipulate people to get it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you regret what you did?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It turned me on, and turned my stomach at the same time. It was actually kind of...hmm, empowering? I felt like it completed me somehow, like the cycle of abuse had come full circle."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You feel absolutely no remorse? You don't feel for Lila as the victim?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think I might have opened a new window into her sexual psyche."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Or caused a serious trauma."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, she'll be on your couch in a year or two. Do I get a kickback?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's not funny, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're taking this too seriously. Do you want to hear how it ends?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I have a feeling I'm going to."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "After she finished the chapter, I marched her upstairs to her bedroom. I took belts from her closet and used them to tie her spread-eagled to the bed. I was going to sit on her face and make her lick me until I got off, but I wasn't really into it. I watched her cry for a while, then I left."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You left her tied to the bed?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I loosened the belt around her right wrist, so she could release it herself if she tried hard enough."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon! Her parents could have found her in that condition..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then they won't ask me to tutor their daughter anymore."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, they will press assault charges instead."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't think Lila will tell anyone. And she won't fuck with me again, either."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You took an enormous risk, Sharon. And..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was worth it just to see her squirm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you enjoy what you did?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, it gave me a certain sick satisfaction, especially after the way she treated me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I hope you're not planning on doing this again."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not right away. I'm savoring the afterglow. I felt a kind of a mix of shock, remorse, and excitement for a few days afterward. I even got off on the fear of getting caught. It was interesting telling you about it and bringing up those feelings all over again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I don't know what to say, Sharon. What you did was very wrong. It was emotionally damaging to you and to Lila. And it's criminal. Perhaps you won't get caught this time, but next time..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It was not okay, Sharon. And the fact that you enjoyed..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Look, it's enough. I think I'm really clear now on how you feel."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll try not to sexually molest any more underage girls before our next session. How's that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 37th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, November 6, 1998 at 10:30 am.\nHello, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mmm."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened? Did you just come from the dentist?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Oh god! You pierced your tongue?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please keep your pants on..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I see. You had your labia pierced, too. How delightful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm, uh?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How do you plan to communicate during our session? Oh, I see, you brought your laptop."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm a pretty fast typist."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can see that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Or would you rather I express myself through an interpretive dance?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The laptop will suffice."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's not as nice as yours. I only use mine for text files. I've been keeping a journal in it, too. I got out of tutoring the Tofu Rejects this week, but I still had to go to class."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When did you get the piercings?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Over the weekend, at Black and Blue Tattoo."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Wasn't it painful?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh yeah! I screamed my head off. The waiting room was full when I first arrived, but after I was done, everyone had cleared out. The pain was really exciting. I got an incredible endorphin rush that lasted for days afterward. Now I understand why some people get every part of themselves pierced."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you planning on doing that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, no...well, not until these piercings heal, anyway. That refreshing first piss of the day really hurts like a bitch now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I hope you're taking care of them, Sharon. Infection is a big risk. You should clean the genital piercing with rubbing alcohol."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're supposed to use hydrogen peroxide. Rubbing alcohol just worsens the irritation. I rinse my mouth and twat with hydrogen peroxide a few times a day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. How long does it take to heal?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A few months. It depends, and everyone is different. Attitude is an important part of healing. I'm looking forward to giving my first blow job with a stud in my tongue--it's supposed to enhance oral sex. Rob isn't so enthusiastic, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You look disgusted."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can't say I'm happy about this. Are there other body modifications you'd like to try?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I always wanted a brand."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A brand? Like they do to cattle?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, not a big, ugly cow-brand. I want a small brand, in a subtle, tasteful design."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm kind of surprised I got the piercings. I always thought the piercing thing was a strange and aberrant practice. Most tattoos are crude and ugly, though sometimes, I notice one I like. I wonder what the next body-modification fad will be? Will teenagers go the tribal African route and wear rings round their necks to stretch them out like a giraffe's? Or maybe they'll put those big plates in their lips. Beauty standards are so bizarre. I wonder if other cultures look at skinny Calvin Klein models with bewilderment and shake their heads, muttering, \"Crazy Americans.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did Rob react to your body modifications?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's pissed. That's why I did it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You did this to make Rob angry?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He told me to get out of the house last Sunday, so his Ex-cow could come pick up her things. It takes that goddamned Bovine all fucking day to pick up a few things for her pasture. Of course, the Heifer has to drop off several boxes of junk--she always leaves more than she takes. What does she think--our house is a storage facility? Why can't she drop off her junk at Goodwill or the city dump? Breed Sow even rearranged the fucking furniture. She hasn't lived there in ages, and she acts like she owns the place. I thought I'd get back at Rob for letting her walk all over him. He's expressed distaste for piercings, now he has to look at them all the time. I keep sticking out my tongue at him just to see the look on his face."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Charlotte is still in the process of moving out her belongings?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, the Belle of Pigs is deliberately dragging it out for as long as possible. Charlotte always makes excuses to come back. She loves prolonging the agony. It's almost as if she gets off on emotional pain. And it looks like Breed Sow has been putting in some time at the trough. Rob thinks she's gained a lot of weight, too, at least fifty pounds. She always was a corpulent creature, but now she's monstrously obese. I've been writing down fat jokes so I'll be prepared when I see her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You know who's lost weight? Godzilla! I saw her at the BART station a few days ago. I barely recognized her. She had her stomach stapled, and it curbed her appetite. She didn't look very good, though. Her skin hangs in folds around her face. I can't call her Godzilla anymore, I'll have to come up with something else. I'm thinking of renaming her Sag Hag."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not call her by her given name?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's more fun to rechristen them. People aren't as threatening if they have a funny moniker. I told Sag Hag she looked good, even though I thought she looked terrible. I liked her better when she was fat."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "As I recall, you gave her the nickname \"Godzilla\" because of her size. You used to say you were repulsed by her obesity. Now that she's lost weight, you complain she doesn't look good because of that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Some people aren't meant to be thin. Like Oprah Winfrey--her face is really weird now. And her personality's changed--she's edgy and judgmental."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Not warm and accepting like you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh shut up. I saw that motivational diet-and-exercise book she co-wrote with her trainer. Anyone who has to go to such great lengths to stay slim should learn to accept her size."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "One of the reasons why people go to such great lengths to stay slim is to avoid the prejudice of a society biased against people who are overweight."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Society will always have unfair prejudices. Take a look at Paul Prudhomme, there's a picture of him in all of his corpulent grandeur on the cover of his cookbooks, but that doesn't dissuade people from trying his artery-clogging brand of cajun cuisine. When he talks lovingly of bacon grease and the joys of deep frying, you know his heart's not into low-fat cooking. You take a look at those pudgy cheeks, the rolls of fat around his neck, and that disarming smile, and you've got to love him, all six hundred pounds of him. He looks a lot better and happier now that he gained back the weight he lost."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand your feelings, but obesity does bring with it a number of health problems."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd rather live life to the hilt, complete with heaping portions of fried chicken and Doritos. I'll die young and leave behind a fat, greasy corpse. They'll have to bury me in a piano crate."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Are things between you and Rob strained because of the holes you recently punched in yourself?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob was angry at first. But because of his hand, he's come to depend on me. He has trouble holding a coffee cup now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "His hand? Oh, that's right, the doctor said he had arthritis."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob's hand has gotten much worse. It's terribly swollen, all puffed out like a hamburger bun. He says it hurts, too, and he has very limited motion."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That doesn't sound like arthritis. Has he thought of getting a second opinion?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He will now, because he can't even wipe his ass. His boxers are full of holes, and he wears the same jeans everyday. I'm thinking of nicknaming him Gravy Stain."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How sweet."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've even offered to do it for him, I was so grossed-out by the skid marks. He wouldn't let me, even when I banged on the door mid-bowel-movement and told him I had special adult butt-wipes. Did you know Depends makes those? They package says they're designed especially for adults--they must use industrial-strength solvents."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I wasn't aware that there was a brand of wipes designed for adults."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was so disappointed when Rob wouldn't let me use the grown-up fanny wipes on him. He said he thought it would take the romance out of our relationship. I wanted to tell him I didn't think that was possible, but I didn't want him to take it the wrong way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How very sensitive of you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I can be warm and fuzzy, too, you know. It amazes me that butt stains come in such a wide variety of shapes and sizes. I can almost tell what kind of mood Rob is in by the marks on the seat of his pants. It's kind of like a very personal, very organic Rorsasch test. Or maybe it's closer to reading tea leaves. I haven't decided yet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wonder if it's possible to devise some sort of personality test based on butt stains. Just think what a powerful diagnostic tool that could be. We could work on it together, and you could implement it in your practice. It would be a revolutionary new technique, written up in the American Journal of Psychiatry. You'd be known as the Shit Stain Shrink. Can you say that three times fast?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, is there something else you'd like to talk about today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I want to talk about butt stains."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think we should spend the session talking about issues that are important to you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Butt stains are important to me. They're really hard to get out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I suspect your professed interest in this rather distasteful subject is an attempt to avoid talking about serious issues."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Butt stains are serious. Get a whiff of Rob these days--it's a pretty serious issue, let me tell you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did Rob make a doctor's appointment to get a second opinion about his hand?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, he has an appointment with another hand specialist on Friday. It's weird, all these problems started when Groucho bit him. But the last doctor he saw said he didn't think it was caused by the cat bite."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If the swelling was caused by an animal bite, it might be a sign of infection. I'm wondering if Rob's condition could be alleviated by something as simple as antibiotics."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Infection, uh? I hadn't thought of that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's one of several possibilities. That's something a specialist could look for."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. So what do you think of my butt-stain Rorsasch idea? I really think I'm onto something here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I used to have this theory that you can predict a person's future based on what kind of Chicken McNugget they chose first. Chicken McNuggets, you see, have distinct shapes. There are the elongated ones with little stumpy appendages, and there are round ones, and some are kind of in-between."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fascinating."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I like long ones the best. It's a phallic symbol, of course. I think this expresses my love of performing fellatio. Just my luck that I end up living with the one red-meat-eating heterosexual male on the planet who doesn't like blow jobs. Rob didn't like them even before I got my tongue pierced. It's unnatural, and unhealthy, and downright un-American, if you ask me, considering who we have in the White House."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We're almost out of time, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "By my watch, we still have a few minutes left. Do you think my Chicken McNugget Rorsasch has any possibilities?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have a good week, Sharon. Take care of those piercings."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "How about a personality test based on those pale, yellow, slug tracks women get on the crotches of their underwear? Vagina stain Rorsasch? You could file dirty panties in with your case histories, and use them for nefarious purposes as well. You could even sell them to prisoners and lonely perverts and make an easy buck. I think it's an idea with great potential."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You have no vision, Doctor Balis."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 1st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, November 7, 1997 at 10:00 am.\nUm, hi. You're Doctor Balis, right?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes. Hello, Sharon. You're a little early."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, sorry. I can come back..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, no, that's fine. Come in, sit down."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm a little nervous. I haven't seen a shrink...I mean a therapist in a long time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's perfectly natural to be a little nervous your first session. When did you last see a therapist?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hope you're not offended by me calling you a shrink."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, that's fine. I've been called worse. When were you last in therapy?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "About a year ago. I've been in and out of therapy most of my adult life, since I was about 19 or 20. That's almost a whole decade."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's going on in your life that leads you to seek therapy now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, work, for one. I hate it. I'm overwhelmed. And I'm having problems at home. Everything sucks, basically. Everything's going to hell in a bucket."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Let's start with work. You say you're overwhelmed?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. I'm a one of the secretaries for SII. There are three secretaries assigned to this group of software engineers I work for. We have a major project deadline coming up, the paperwork never seems to end, and they always want constant revisions. I've been working really long days--12, 14, 16 hours, sometimes. I feel like a zombie, one of the walking dead. I'm always exhausted; it's like I'm barely alive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It must be a drain to work such long hours."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Well, it's not like I have much of a social life anyway. One of the secretaries in my group is a dud, a real pain in the ass. I get stuck picking up after her all the time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I mean I know I should be patient with her--she's got some serious problems, but don't we all?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Problems?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I heard her husband is abusive. She's really scatterbrained, she can't retain anything. She makes careless errors and loses things. And what a slob! Everywhere she goes, she leaves a trail of paper, assorted office supplies, used Kleenex, and cough drop wrappers. This woman, Celeste, is so thin and frail you want to feel sorry for her. But I get so pissed off at her, I want to snap her scrawny little neck. My God, I hate the way that sounds. I must sound like an awful person."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're allowed to feel frustrated and angry."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And at home it's even worse. I hate my job, but the thought of coming home is so awful I can't stand it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's going on at home?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My landlord is a real asshole. Sorry. He's a jerk. I've got a foul mouth. I think it comes from cursing at my computer all day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There's no need to apologize. You may speak freely here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I moved into this cheap apartment. I needed to move in a hurry, and it was cheap, and they allowed pets."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What kind of pet do you have?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have a ferret. They're illegal in California. So I had to find a place that wouldn't mind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. What's its name?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Harriet. She's the highlight of my existence. She's the only thing I look forward to. Do you want to see?"
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 2nd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, November 14, 1997 at 10:00 am.\nHi."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you today?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm pissed off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's the matter?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I had a really bad week at work. My boss yelled at me in front of the entire department Tuesday, then today, he reprimanded me again in front of everyone. Isn't there some rule of management which says you're not supposed to yell at a person in front of her co-workers?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There were some important documents that needed to be sent by messenger. That dumbshit, Celeste--the dingbat secretary I told you about--she screwed it up and put the wrong address on the label. She's done it several times before. These are confidential documents, and the wrong people got them. My boss said the error was mine. When I told him that Celeste made the mistake, he said I should have caught it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds like your boss is very demanding."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He is--of me, not of her. He always makes excuses for her. It makes me sick; I am so tired of getting dumped on. I feel like I have \"Welcome\" stamped across my chest."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You feel that you are singled out in some way?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yeah. I don't think I have a persecution complex or anything. I have a habit of taking on too much responsibility, then resenting it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Can you give me an example?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "In my department, I'm the one who makes sure we meet our deadlines. I'm the one who's supposed to catch mistakes before they reach the client. I'm not the most social person. I don't give good phone, as they say. I hide behind my computer all day and try to avoid talking to people as much as I can. The guys in my department know that I'm productive, that I'll work all night to get a project done if I have to, so they come to me if they need something. Celeste doesn't have a good eye for detail, and she's easily distracted. I'm wondering if she has some kind of learning disability, or Attention Deficit Disorder. Maybe she's senile. Anyway, she's very good with people. Celeste comes off as this kindly old aunt--you know, a nice motherly woman who bakes cookies and always has time to chat. She makes a lot of errors, though, and she forgets things. I get so frustrated. Sometimes I want to smack her in the head with a blunt object."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You sound angry."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A few days ago, I snapped at her and made her cry. I was rushing, trying to meet this deadline, and she was like this little kid underfoot. Later that day, my boss called our department together and gave us a patronizing lecture on how we all need to work together as a team, and how not all people have the same abilities. I know it was directed at me, but he had to tell everyone. I was pissed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I can understand your frustration, but your boss does have a point."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I had a feeling you'd take their side."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, it sounds as though you make an effort to be conscientious and productive. But unfortunately, not everyone has your ability, or your skill level."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Then Celeste shouldn't be working at SII. It's not some cushy secretarial job. It's very demanding, a lot of work, constant pressure, deadlines to meet. Celeste, or someone like her who is easily distracted and disorganized, doesn't belong here. I know that sounds harsh. There are other companies where she would do just fine. Doesn't Goodwill hire the mentally retarded?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, okay. I just get so frustrated and angry, and I can't stop obsessing about it. There's nothing much I can do, so I should stop thinking about it, right? It doesn't look like they'll be getting rid of any of us any time soon, with all this work we have to do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You say there are three secretaries for your group?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, there's this other girl, Sherry. She's okay. She's competent and a nice enough person. But six months ago, she had a baby, and now she takes a lot of time off. I have to pick up her work load, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have to keep reminding myself to be patient. It's annoying though. It seems like every other week she's either late, or needs to leave early, or calls in sick. It's always, \"The baby this,\" or \"The baby that.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Being a single mother is quite a challenge."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm glad I can't have kids."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can't have children?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's highly unlikely. I had this problem a few years ago. I don't really like talking about it. Female trouble, you know?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't have to discuss any topic that makes you uncomfortable."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I mean, no offense, but you're not my ob/gyn."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, that's fine. I understand."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Anyway, I read that women who have what I had--I had an ovarian cyst, I guess it's not such a big deal. A lot of women have them. I don't know why it bothers me so much to talk about it. I feel like I'm defective or something. It was pretty serious. I let it go for too long. Anyway, there's a pretty good chance that I'm infertile."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you like children?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I like other people's kids. I even like my landlord's little monsters. His youngest son likes to come to my apartment and bug me; he's so starved for attention. But women like Sherry, who know better but get knocked up anyway, they really get to me. She's a smart woman, not some teenager. She's a few years older than me. Didn't she realize what she was getting into? And her boyfriend is a real shit. He doesn't support her or the baby at all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like a difficult situation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It seems to me that single motherhood is a burden on everyone, on all of society. You always hear about how it's so hard for single mothers, how much work they have to do, and how the fathers don't contribute. But these women made a choice. It's not like it was 20 or 30 years ago. Women have access to birth control now, and there are abortion clinics and adoption agencies. There aren't any social programs or special benefits for women in their teens and twenties who don't have children. I've worked with other single mothers, and they are a real pain in the ass--always taking time off, calling in sick. They always say, \"My child comes first.\" No boss will ever challenge a woman on that. But if she cared about her kids so much, why didn't she take steps to insure that they would have a stable home life? Why did she have a child she couldn't afford? And society puts single mothers up on a pedestal. They get special treatment. It's almost as if they're being rewarded for their bad judgment."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem very passionate about this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I didn't mean to rant. I don't mean to sound like Dan Quayle. I'm not a Republican. But I've worked with a lot of single moms. I'm usually one of the few single, childless women in the office. I guess I was lucky I never got pregnant. But I would have had an abortion, or given it up for adoption. I don't think single moms should be branded with a scarlet letter. But it seems wrong to encourage them--to say that what they did is okay and life should be made easier for them. Maybe I get so angry because I had such a screwed up home life. I hate to think of kids growing up unwanted, like my landlord's kids. He yells at them constantly. I know their home life must be terrible."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Would you like to talk about your own childhood?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's not exactly my favorite subject."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's hard for me to talk about."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We can talk about it when you feel ready. Or not at all, if you prefer."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's just that a shrink I saw about two years ago...he was an intern at a local clinic. He wasn't very experienced. Anyway, I told him a lot of personal stuff. Things that were really painful for me to talk about. I felt like I had to talk about them. That's why you go to a therapist, right? Well I told him, and something about his response...I don't know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did he respond in a manner that was unprofessional?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He seemed...well, almost dismissive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Would you feel comfortable giving me an example?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, there was this one incident. I used to have nightmares about it. I don't want to go into detail..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's fine. Just tell me as much as you feel comfortable with."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My father came home drunk and...well, he was abusive. Extremely physically abusive. I felt like I had to purge myself. The memories kept coming back. So I told him--my previous shrink--what happened. I told him all the details I remembered. I was in tears, it was so hard for me to talk about. When I was finished, he said, \"So, your father was hitting you and stuff?\" He didn't even pretend to care. He could have at least given me that old therapist's clich��, \"How does that make you feel?\" He didn't realize that I had just told him one of the worst things that had happened to me. My father was...he was...I don't want to talk about this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon, that's fine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe I'm making too much of this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't discount your feelings. Memories of an abusive parent can be painful to recount. It sounds as though your other therapist didn't have the experience to respond appropriately."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Now I feel I can't ever tell anyone else about it. And I can't stop the memories from coming back. They flood back at the most inopportune times."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel that your last therapist might have turned you off to therapy in general?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, him and the shrinks in the loony bin. I feel stupid now. I wasn't going to tell you. I made up my mind that I wasn't going to tell anyone."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, we have a lot to work through. I won't lie to you and say that therapy is an easy process, but I certainly hope that you'll come to trust me and give me your confidence. I suggest that all my patients write down their thoughts and feelings, particularly those they find troubling. The journal is just for you, although I'd be happy to read it if you feel like sharing it with me. You might find it helpful to write down your thoughts and feelings, even your dreams."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Dreams?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, do you remember your dreams?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I used to have nightmares. I still do, sometimes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Try keeping a journal for a few weeks. Write in it as often as you like."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do I have to show it to you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You can if you'd like. That's entirely up to you. If you'd rather not, that's fine also. The journal will help you monitor, review, and express your feelings and emotions. I also encourage my patients to share with me their creative efforts, such as sketches or poetry."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'll think about it. But I'm not promising anything."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good, Sharon. Our time is up this week. Does this time next week work for you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, this is fine."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thanks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sure. Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye, Doctor Balis."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 38th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, November 20, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. Is that a new cast?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I just got it a few days ago. It's removable, so now I have no excuse for not bathing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really. I was starting to enjoy stinking in my own juices. I could offend people without even trying."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. I have a feeling I'm going to regret asking this, but what's in the plastic bag?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's all the dead skin I peeled of my foot. There's a lot of it, see?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's really neat, huh? Right after they gave me the removable cast, I spent an hour picking off all the dead skin that accumulated. It was fascinating, like looking at the rings of a giant redwood. It came off really easily, too, like an orange peel."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The amount of toe jam I've produced was also very impressive, but I didn't have a vial to put it in, so I can't show you."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How unfortunate."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My right foot smells weird when I take of the cast. It smells different from my left foot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you spend a lot of time sniffing your feet?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Everyone needs a hobby. But I couldn't help but notice the aroma when they took the cast off. My toe hair has reached prodigious lengths. Want to see?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I realize this is an absorbing subject for you, Sharon, but let's move on, all right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Have you ever tried the Biore strip?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Isn't that a kind of tape you stick on your nose?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, it pulls out blackheads and pus."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "They don't really work for me, no matter how long I leave them on."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is that how you got that scar?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I fell asleep while wearing a Biore strip. Those things aren't very forgiving once they dry out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob gets great results with a Biore strip. When I pull the strip off after ten minutes, it's covered with hundreds of little gray columns of pus. He's a gold mine for pus and blackheads because his skin is so oily. He doesn't like it when I pick at him, though."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I wonder why."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If it weren't for me, he'd have a dirty-blonde Afro sprouting out of each nostril and ear. I'm doing my wifely duty keeping him well groomed. It's a very primal form of bonding, very animalistic. And animals eat each other's lice and dead skin to express affection and ownership."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm collecting our Biore strips to make a collage. It's hard to store them, though--I keep smashing down the pus columns. If I brought one in, you could hang it on your wall."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd rather not."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I think a Biore strip collage would bring out a response in your patients."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, they'll be filled with the sudden urge to seek therapy elsewhere."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why are you being so negative? You're the one who keep telling me to do something creative. Now that I've found something that interests me, you have to trash my artistic aspirations."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll support your creative efforts, but I won't necessarily hang them on my wall."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It would mean a lot to me if you did."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Please, be serious, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am serious. Pus is a serious subject. Just ask any teenager with acne."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Every time I see someone with bad skin, I have to resist the urge to go up to them and gaze deeply into their pores and pimples."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you going back to work soon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why is it every time I talk about something that brings me joy and fulfillment, you have to bring me down to earth with a resounding thud?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's my job. Will you be returning to SII soon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, in a few weeks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You don't sound happy about it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Very perceptive, Doctor Balis. I wasted the entire summer, getting stoned, watching TV, surfing the Net. I'm not ready to go back to work."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you enjoy your time off?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I would have preferred time off with full mobility, but yeah, I did like sleeping until noon and goofing off all day. Rob can't get into it. I've tried to enlighten him on the joys of sloth and slovenliness, but he doesn't see the light. He insists on working, even though his doctor ordered him to take some time off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How is Rob doing? Is his hand better?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, the swelling diminished after the doctor prescribed tetracycline. You were right, it was an infection caused by the cat bite."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How is your foot? Are you in any pain?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It aches when I do a lot of walking, but it's much better, unfortunately. My back hurts, though, probably from having my balance thrown off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. You might try some exercises..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not in any condition to be running marathons right now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I didn't say you should run cross-country, but some moderate exercises would be beneficial. The muscles in your legs have probably atrophied from lack of use."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's okay. The increased girth at my waistline more than makes up for it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The gained weight--especially around your midsection--will only exacerbate your back problems."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If you write me a prescription for Dexedrine, I'll be skinny as a rail in no time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know I won't do that, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn. It was worth a try."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Smoking marijuana also promotes weight gain. That's part of the rationale behind the Medical Marijuana movement--it stimulates appetite."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't I know it. Why is everything good has to be illegal, immoral, or fattening?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You could ask your doctor to suggest some exercises to strengthen your legs and upper body."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, he's with CalaCare HMO, he doesn't give a shit about my well-being."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No offense to you, of course. You're actually pretty compassionate for an HMO shrink."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you. As I was saying, moderate exercise can invigorate as well as strengthen. You might find your moods improving if you exercise regularly."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have to stay cranky and irritable. I don't want to lose my edge."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been using the relaxation tape?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes. I use it at night when I can't sleep."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You might want to use the tape in the morning, when you first get up. How is your class?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Uh."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Why do you feel this way?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Half the class has dropped out, and no one's contributing anything to the Shitty Rag."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been writing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been too busy slogging through reams of dreck. I told Doris we should make this edition of the Shitty Rag a blank book. People can fill it with their own pretentious drivel."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Mind if I step out a little early?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We still have some time left..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have a sudden urge to go for an invigorating walk around the block."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You do?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. Actually, I want an oatmeal carmelita from Starbucks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you want one, too?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, thank you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay then. Bye."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon. Happy Thanksgiving. Oh, remember that we won't have a session next week, okay, but I'll see you on the following Friday?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 3rd Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, November 21, 1997 at 10:00 am.\nSorry I'm late."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's all right, Sharon. Please come on in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "God, what time is it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're about fifteen minutes late. How did things work out last night?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I called Charlotte--the woman whose cats I used to feed when she and her husband went out of town. I told her what happened. She insisted that I stay with her. She even came with me this morning and helped me get my stuff."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You went back to your apartment?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I called my landlord and told him I would come by early. I called in sick, so don't tell on me, okay? I put Harriet the Ferret in her pet carrier and got some clothes and other stuff. I left a lot of things behind."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you get a chance to call an attorney?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte recommended an attorney, and I called him this morning. He is not a criminal defense attorney, but he did say that this is a clear cut case of wrongful eviction. I was so upset, it was reassuring to hear someone take my side. He told me that I could press charges, if I wanted to go that way. He also recommended a good lawyer I could contact to help me deal. I haven't called her yet. And I don't know if I'll press charges, either."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's the child-molestation charge, for one. People will automatically say I'm guilty, even though I didn't do anything. God, it makes me so angry! There's nothing I can do, no way I can get back at them. They're probably laughing at me now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. What exactly did your landlord accuse you of doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She--the landlord's wife--was very vague. She said I had \"sexually molested\" her son. When I asked her what she meant by that, she said that \"I touched him inappropriately.\" She said she had taken him to the doctor, and the doctor confirmed it. I know that has to be a complete fabrication. I never touched him in any sexual sort of way. The past two weeks, I've been working so much that I hardly saw him at all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did they say they would press charges?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, at least not yet. I was afraid I'd be arrested and held for interrogation. I was afraid to go to the police, I thought they'd assume I was guilty and lock me up forever. God, that sounds so irrational now. But last night, I was so panicked, I was almost hysterical."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you tell the entire story to the attorney? It sounds as if your landlord might have contrived the whole story just to get you out of your apartment."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I told him as much as I knew. But I feel like I should have done something differently. Maybe I should have called the police and told them the whole story. I didn't get any witnesses to their threat or any written verification from them. My landlord didn't even give me an eviction notice."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. Maybe if I just can get it on paper...I can't let them just walk over me. It makes me so angry. They probably think I'm some wimp--some weak, quiet, feeble person who wouldn't fight back. They get to keep my deposit and last month's rent, and I'm broke. I don't have the money to get another place. Plus, I lost a lot of my stuff. I can't stop thinking about it, I was up all night fuming. I wish there was something I could do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What are you thinking about?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Building a bomb."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I would never really do that. But in times like this, I'm glad I don't own firearms. I fucking hate my landlord for doing this to me. That bastard! I hope he rots in hell. You're not going to have me committed, are you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. What makes you ask that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, don't I sound irrational? I better watch what I say."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You may always speak freely here. What I'm hearing is you venting anger...rage, towards people who treated you horribly. Your feelings in this case seem justified. The only time a mental health professional can intervene is if there is a real threat of danger."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I'm harmless. I'm all talk. I feel so stupid. I wish there was something I could do. I called my sister last night to see if maybe I could stay with her, you know? I knew that was a mistake. She told me I was always causing problems, getting into trouble, making my parents worry."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This is the first time you've mentioned a sister."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "We're not very close. She moved to San Francisco a few months ago. Sometimes, we have lunch or do things together, but it's always a strain for me. She's such a bitch, constantly nagging me. She's just a very argumentative person. And she never misses an opportunity to tell me what a loser I am. And I don't need her to tell me that, I already know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And when you told her about your situation, she responded by blaming you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, she said it was my own bad judgment. When I told her they falsely accused me of molesting their son, she said, \"I told you to stay away from those kids.\" It's always, \"I told you so.\" She's always right. I don't know why I even called her. I felt so lost. I just needed someone to talk to."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It might not be a bad idea to keep some distance from your sister, just for the short term. You're going through an enormously difficult time, Sharon. You need people to be supportive of you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How old is your sister?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She's twenty-seven. She's the youngest."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And do you have any other siblings?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, it's just the two of us. She's the chosen one."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The chosen one? Could you explain what you mean by that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She's the one my parents like. Linda is going to be a success. I'm always going to be a failure."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That seems a rather extreme view."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Linda is one of those people who know how to play the game. I'm not. I'm so clueless, it's not even funny. But she is a people-person, a charmer, a manipulator, and aggressive about getting what she wants. She's also a cranky bitch and a real pain in the ass. This must be hard for you to listen to."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What makes you say that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's depressing, isn't it? Don't I seem pathetic and hopeless to you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you been feeling depressed, Sharon? With all of these recent events, feeling stressed or down is really quite a normal response."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know if \"depressed\" is the right word. Mostly, I've been really angry. I've been fuming inwardly all yesteray and all last night. I can't stop thinking about it. And what makes it ever worse is there's nothing I can do. I'm completely helpless. I just lay there like a worm, while that scumbag landlord walked all over me. Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse. You know, when I first came to see you, I thought my life was at it's lowest point since I'd been out of the hospital. I didn't think it could possibly get any worse, and it did."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you had thoughts about hurting yourself?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If I did, I wouldn't tell you--you'll stick me in a padded cell."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. No, I haven't felt like doing that. It's mostly about hurting my landlord--revenge fantasies. They're pretty silly, really. I get so worked up, my adrenaline starts going. It's almost a rush."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Really?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Listen, can I go now? I'm really tired. I couldn't sleep last night. My head hurts."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If that's what you really want, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sorry I was late. Isn't that considered bad form to arrive late and leave early?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I understand."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You should be reprimanding me for being so rude. That's what my sister would do. I can almost hear her voice in my head. You know how some women always have that shrill, piercing, nagging tone?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's all right, Sharon. Look you've got to get in touch with the attorney that the lawyer recommended to you. You'll probably will get all your stuff and your deposit and last month rent. But you've got to act right away, okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Thanks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome. Try and get some rest. And I won't see you next week--it's Thanksgiving weekend. But if you need to get in touch, call my service. They'll know how to get in touch with me."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All right. Bye."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon. Take care. I'll see you in two weeks."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 39th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, December 4, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nSharon? What happened to your hair?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I know. I look like I've got a pile of sauteed onions on my head."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's a performance-art piece, a work-in-progress. I'm thinking of calling it \"Self-Annihilation by Haircut.\" I tried to strip all the color out of my hair, but it didn't quite work the way I planned, and I ended up with two-tone hair. Then I tried to cut off all the dark parts. I didn't have a very sharp pair of scissors, and it came out kind of uneven."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You know, Halloween was a month ago."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You need to work on your bedside manner, Doctor. You're looking at me like I'm a sideshow freak."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sorry, Sharon.\nWhat made you want to...uh, experiment with your hair?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wanted to change my hair color. I've been dyeing my hair since high school, that's when I started going gray. I've always used a dark brown dye. Lately, I've been getting a lot more gray coming in. I read that you're supposed to switch to a lighter hair color as you get older. The woman at the beauty supply store recommended this chemical preparation that strips permanent dye out of hair. She said that I had to get rid of the dark brown color before I could go lighter."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. Have you tried this sort of thing before?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I haven't, can't you tell? God, I want to put a bag over my head."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Wouldn't you rather curl up and dye?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're being very insensitive to my pain, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sorry, Sharon. I can't resist a bad pun."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If you were really sorry, you'd wipe that smile off your face."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not laughing at you..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, you can't be laughing with me, because I'm not laughing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't take it personally, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob hates it, too. Every time he looks at me, he furrows his brow as if he can't believe what he's seeing. Even the cat looks at me funny."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Perhaps you should see a professional hair stylist."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can't afford that now. I need to have corrective work, and that costs a lot. Maybe I should buy a baseball cap instead."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's an idea."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The only advantage is that it's easier for me to wash my hair now--it's shorter."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you're focusing on the positive."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Stop looking at me that way."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. Would you like to talk about something else?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob's ulcer is acting up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Rob has an ulcer?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, he's always had stomach problems. He gave himself an ulcer so he could avoid being drafted during Vietnam--he went on an aspirin and water diet. Usually, he takes Zantac, and that takes care of it. But this past week, he's been moaning and kvetching--you'd think he was ready to die. Wouldn't you know it? Just as his hand got better, his stomach got worse."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has he seen a doctor?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, they diagnosed him with peptic ulcer disease. His insurance didn't cover the prescription-strength Pepcid the Doctors gave him. It costs one hundred dollars a bottle! They also gave him something for pain and told him to eat only bland, soft foods for a few days."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Of course, Rob ate half a pizza the day after his appointment. He was moaning and clutching his side all night. He's doing penance now; he eats nothing but Saltines, bananas, and applesauce."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe Rob will lose some weight by sticking to the bland diet. I really envy his pain medication."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know, I know--I'll stay away from it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Can Rob teach in this condition?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, he took a few weeks off. At first, I liked having him at home because it gave me someone to talk to besides the cat and the rabbit. But he's such a whinny baby, he really gets on my nerves. I'm forever getting his medication, making something for him to eat, doing laundry, and cleaning up after him or the pets. All this domesticity is enough to drive anyone mad."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm sure Rob appreciates what you do."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, he doesn't. He's been nagging me to go back to work. Rob was even pressuring me to go back to SII when I was still in the wheelchair--it was something about having too much time on my hands. Can you believe that?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't you feel ready to go back to work?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm still in a cast, aren't I?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, but you've been upgraded, so to speak, to a temporary cast, and you seem to be a lot more mobile now. You're only using one crutch these days. That's a marked improvement from the wheelchair."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's difficult for me to walk, and I tire easily, especially with all the running around I do for Rob. It pisses me off that he has the gall to tell me to get back to work."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's just a suggestion, Sharon. Why does it make you so angry?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because I've been busting my ass waiting on him, and he didn't do a fucking thing for me when I was injured. I had to drive myself to the hospital with a broken foot. He gets a minor infection and a little tummy-ache, and he's acting like the Sultan of Brunei, lying on the couch in all his corpulent glory, demanding that I fetch him this and bring him that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Rob's condition doesn't sound minor..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Why do you always take his side?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not taking sides, Sharon. I realize you've had major injuries over the past few months, but Rob is also grappling with serious health issues. And he's much older than you are, and these conditions are more debilitating for an older person. I also understand that caring for a sick person can be unpleasant--they can be demanding and irritable. So please keep this in mind. I think this is a good time for you to use the relaxation techniques we've discussed."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I have been using them."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You have?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, maybe not as often as I should, but I try to do it once a week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd like you to do them at least once a day, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you heard from Lila?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Lila who?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Come on, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Fuck her. I hope I never see that little cunt again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Won't you run into her in class?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I haven't been going. I went to see Doris, our teacher, at her office to let her know I was still alive. She is really running out of steam. I wonder if she's okay, she looks run down. I tried to talk to her about things I needed for the Shitty Rag, but she looked so tired, I let the subject drop."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you tried delegating your responsibilities to the other students?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No one wants to do any work. Beavis and Butthead can barely write their own names. I can't ask Lila. Camel Toe--that horse-faced woman who can't decide whether she wants to be a ho or just look like one--turned-in some really bad poetry. She offered to help, but I couldn't face the thought of looking at all the folds of her genitalia clearly outlined through her pants, so I told her I didn't need help."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you didn't even give this woman a chance. She may dress in a manner you find unappealing, but that has no bearing on her ability to assist you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She makes me want to hurl. I don't want to have to look at that old Camel Toe, she's just too repulsive."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I know what you're thinking--I have painfully bad hair, and yet I have the gall to criticize someone else's appearance."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Actually, I was thinking that you are under a lot of pressure right now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The always perceptive, ever compassionate, and politically correct Doctor Balis. You would never scream at me to pull my head out of my ass and get my shit together, no matter how much you might want to."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Would you prefer I used a more caustic approach?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You'd get better results with a thick-headed numskull like me if you acted more like a drill sergeant."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a thought, but I think I'll stick with my own technique for now."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, just look what great strides you've made with me so far."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Therapy is a long process, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's a scam, that's what it is. You guys are nothing but third-rate con-artists, even worse than television evangelists and palm readers."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "But you come back week after week. It must have some value."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're the only constant in my life. You're also the only man in my life who isn't too terribly physically repelling, at least not yet."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thanks for the compliment."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure. I'll see you next week, okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Bye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 4th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, December 5, 1997 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Doctor Balis. Sorry I'm late again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's all right. How are you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I didn't really want to come here. It feels like a chore."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're beginning to dread your therapy sessions?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I just can't stand the thought of facing anyone. I want to hide in my room and sleep all day. I called in sick again today. Hope you don't tell on me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you feeling depressed?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. Depressed. Defeated. Drained. And really fat. I ate an entire apple pie yesterday. At first, when I got thrown out of my apartment, I couldn't eat. Now, I can't stop eating."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How is your living situation? You said you found some people you can stay with?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "They've been great. Charlotte and Robin--her husband--they really went out of their way to be nice to me. They made dinner on Thanksgiving and took me to the movies. We saw \"L.A. Confidential.\" I slept through the whole thing. I've been feeling really tired lately. It's like sleeping is the only escape I have."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Were you able to talk to an attorney about the charges your landlord made?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I did that on Tuesday. I almost didn't keep the appointment. I didn't want to do anything that would remind me of what happened. I thought maybe if I just side-stepped it all, it would go away. You know, it makes me think of those girls that were in the news--those young girls who denied that they were pregnant and then concealed their pregnancies and killed their babies. I remember the article I read about them, and I identified with them. I understood completely how they could disassociate themselves from reality because they couldn't stand the thought of facing the truth. You can get so caught up in your own denial and pretend it all happened to someone else. Does that make sense?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes it does."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The lawyer I spoke to said that I should go file a Notice of Wrongful Eviction. He said the child abuse allegations sounded like manipulation. A police report wasn't filed, and they didn't press any charges. I was so afraid I'd be locked up for something I didn't do. But he said that it sounded as if they didn't have enough evidence to press charges and that children that young make unreliable witnesses. This all sounds so terrible. It sounds like I'm guilty."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's quite an upsetting experience."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was afraid that there might be a trial, and my sexual history would come up. I heard that the courts can subpoena your gynecological records, not to mention my recent incarceration in the nut house."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's funny that my sexual history would come up again. I thought it was all part of my past. After I got out of the loony bin last year, I had no sex drive at all. At first, I thought it was the medication I was on--for a while I was prescribed lithium. But when I stopped taking it, I still had no libido, which was strange because it had been a major part of my life before that. I used to be almost obsessed with it. Now, I don't even care. I wonder if this is what a neutered cat feels like."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This situation with your landlord--has it brought up memories of your past sexual experiences?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, mostly regrets. I don't have a lot of pleasant memories. I went through this period a few years ago--kind of an experimental phase--when I took a lot of drugs and was...ah, promiscuous, you could say. I got involved with some of the alternative lifestyles San Francisco is known for. That's how I met Charlotte."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Were you involved with Charlotte?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, no. Nothing like that. This is kind of awkward. I mean, I'm not gay. I'm not a lesbian. I used to think maybe I was. When I went through this experimental phase, I was...uh, exploring that part of myself. But I didn't sleep with Charlotte. I met her through a mutual friend, which is kind of a long story."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does living with Charlotte again bring back memories of this \"experimental phase\" as you call it?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yes, but I don't exactly live with her. Charlotte and her husband have been separated for about a year. She said she wanted her freedom--she was exploring her sexuality. Charlotte is also going through menopause. They weren't getting along that well, so Charlotte moved into an apartment. She and Robin still see each other on weekends, and they take vacations together and stuff."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I can empathize with what Charlotte's going through. It makes me uncomfortable, though. I'm kind of worried for her, though I know she can take care of herself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you concerned for her safety?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, that too. Mostly, I'm worried she'll feel the way I felt when I went through all that. I remember being really depressed and constantly doing meth, or coke, or smoking weed to numb my feelings. I was so...so raw. It was the time in my life when I felt the most vulnerable. And it was my own fault, you know. I didn't know what I was getting into. Charlotte is much more people-savvy; she knows how to protect herself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It seems like sex is some horrible evil thing--a deep dark secret, you know? In those bad horror movies, like \"The Fly,\" the moral is that there are some things man wasn't meant to know. Maybe that's what sex is to me. I think about that a lot. But I'm not horny anymore, and I have no interest, and no one would want to fuck me anyway. It's like the last five years of my life have been some kind of...I don't know, a morality tale or something. Girl does drugs, has sex, goes crazy, ends up in mental hospital. Am I making any sense? I feel like I'm babbling on and on like an idiot."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're very lucid, Sharon. Your ambivalence about your sexual needs is something many women feel."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Kind of puritanical, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, yes, in some ways it is."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Are we done yet?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We still have some time left."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because I'm really tired. I need a nap, maybe a snack, too."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, you can go if you like. But this is an important issue, and I'd like to discuss it again."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Now, I wish I hadn't brought it up."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd like you to feel open about discussing uncomfortable subjects here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yeah. I have something for you. It's...um, it's a poem. It's really bad."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you, Sharon. I look forward to reading it."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're not going to make nasty little marks with a red pen and then hand it back to me, are you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I try not to grade my patient's work."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. I'll see you next week."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All right, Sharon. Goodbye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 40th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, December 11, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. I see the cast came off."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I went to the doctor last Wednesday. It feels weird walking without it. I'm all wobbly, like I'm drunk or something."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That feeling will wear off in time. Your muscles have probably atrophied, and it will take a while to regain strength in your legs. How is your foot?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It hurts if I walk on it too much, but other than that, it's okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you're feeling better."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Actually, I think I'm coming down with the flu."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Your hair looks good, by the way."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, thanks. I went to a hair salon. I couldn't afford it, and it was really expensive, but I did it anyway. I used the money I was saving for a car repair and had my hair straightened out. I'm totally broke now. I was going to take a class at the local community college, but I can't afford it. I decided it was more important to have monochromatic hair than an operational vehicle or an education."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's good to establish priorities."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's weird having short hair. It doesn't hang in my face anymore, and I can't hide behind it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think it looks nice this way. How is Rob doing?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob's taken a turn for the worse."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He had severe stomach pains a few nights ago. He called Charlotte, and she took him to the emergency room."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Charlotte?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, my car needs a lot of work, and he didn't want to pay for a cab or an ambulance, so he called his lovely and charming ex-sow to provide taxi service."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I sense you're unhappy about this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Very perceptive, Doctor. I guess I don't have the right to get angry. I'm not his spouse, so I don't have any rights."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. Did they find out what was wrong?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, all the doctors are stumped. Rob is the mystery patient. They've been running tests, but they don't know why Rob is in so much pain."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Last week, you said Rob was diagnosed with the Peptic Ulcer disease."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, but now they think it's something else. Rob says this is a different kind of pain. He really is miserable. He walks doubled-over, and he wheezes and moans constantly. He never makes noises like that when we're fucking."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's been getting some great painkillers, though. Rob got a Demerol shot in the ER and a prescription for Percodan when they released him."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't even think about it, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I know. I'm getting loopy on the cold medication instead. I can't smoke marijuana with this cold--it tears up my throat."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What kind of cold medication are you taking?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm, it's some generic brand of NyQuil, I think."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How much of that are you taking?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. A lot, I guess. I lose track after the first few swigs of the day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You need to be careful about the dosage of over-the-counter cold remedies. Some of them contain alcohol, not to mention a number of other substances that can be habit-forming."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I know. That's the best part of being sick."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There are other benefits, too. Like weight loss, for instance. My pants actually fit now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Proper nutrition is very important when your immune system is weakened. You need to eat regular meals. You should also increase your intake of fluids, such as water and fruit juices."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But I like that lightheaded feeling I get when I chug half a bottle of Ny-Quil or Robitussin and don't eat all day."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "When did you last eat?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. Time is so amorphous, it swirls and morphs like the colored globs in a lava lamp..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You know what else is great about being sick?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Snot and phlegm. I've been very productive lately. It gives me a great sense of accomplishment when I can generate a lot of mucous. When I look into a tissue after I've blown my nose and see green globules, clinging together in a viscous syrup--like the globs in a lava lamp--I feel like I've done something worthwhile."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Let's discuss your feelings towards Rob's dependence on Charlotte."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, do I have to talk about this?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "The fact that you're being evasive indicates you're avoiding an important issue. It's best to confront things head-on, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Wouldn't you rather hear more lava lamp analogies?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No. Has Rob returned home from the hospital?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, they released him the next day. Charlotte drove him home and left me a nasty note about my poor housekeeping habits. What a fucking bitch! She even wanted to move in for a week to look after Rob."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "She did?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Rob said no, of course. Even in his weakened state, he knows what hell that would be."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm really pissed at him. All you men are users. You just take and take, like a bunch of bloodsucking leeches. Once you drain someone dry, you move on."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you feel used by Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He only kept me around so he could have someone to do his laundry and go out to dinner with. During a crisis, the first person he thinks of is Charlotte. He didn't even consider how that would affect me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you discussed your feelings with Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He doesn't want to hear it. Whenever I bring it up, he starts whining that he feels bad. I'm such a moron."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What makes you say that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm stupid for thinking that he felt something for me. Ironic, isn't it? I went into this thing thinking it was only for practical purposes, and then I..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And then what?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, he grew on me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you love Rob?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Ugh. Don't use the \"L-word.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What word would you use?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't hate his guts or anything. Actually now, I kind of do. What I mean is that we got along okay. We're both socially inept curmudgeons befuddled by the intricacies of life. We've become like animals, taking pleasure from overeating, sleeping, bad sex, and good bowel movements."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The ever loquacious Doctor Balis responds to my in-depth analysis with a monosyllabic grunt. How about saying \"hmm-mmm,\" or \"uhh,\" or even \"ugga-mugga\" once in a while, just for variety's sake?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "In your previous relationships..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you ever listen to a word I say? I don't have relationships. I just find people to fuck. And I don't even enjoy that half the time."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you want a relationship?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, I don't know. Maybe. It seems so labor-intensive. And I'm not a very good liar."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's true, relationships are a lot of work. But you don't necessarily have to be an adept liar to have a lasting partnership."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I lack the requisite relationship skills. I'm doomed to be a ho."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, relationship skills can be learned..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Old whores are sad, aren't they? The ones you see on Capp Street are the worst. Some of them are old enough to be my mother. I wonder if I'll end up like that..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I'll probably end up as a senile spinster who talks to herself and carries dozens of shopping bags full of junk wherever she goes. I can see myself with granny glasses, wearing one of those funny hats."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "As I was saying, relationships require communication skills which can be taught."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not willing to work at it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're not?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What are you going to do, force me to take some bullshit workshop taught by that bitch that does the infomercials--you know the one with the collagen lips and a precancerous suntan? She always wears a pink suit..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Workshops can be useful..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd rather put a bullet through my head."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Learning relationship skills can benefit you in many areas of your life. I think you would greatly benefit from learning how to communicate more effectively."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What self-help, pop-psychology book did you just read? You're spewing jargon just like that hag on the infomercial. Barbara DeAngelis! That's her name. Do you know she was married to Doug Henning? I guess being married to a B-list celebrity makes you an expert on relationships."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you yourself said that you find it difficult to approach people. Wouldn't you like to overcome that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I don't like people very much. People suck. Animals are much more appealing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you could give it a try, it's not as difficult as you think."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's hopeless. I can't even get through a sentence without saying \"uh.\" You're never going to make an orator out of me."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you say you aren't willing to work on your issues, and you're completely pessimistic about your future. But you come here every week..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't have anyone else to talk to. Besides, I need fuel for my masturbatory fantasies."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You don't think about me that way, do you? Even my lust is unrequited."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, please..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Is it because of my weight? Would you fuck me if I had a better body? There's this woman at work with a really great ass. You'd probably fuck me if I had an ass like that."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon!"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, it's probably my lack of personality and social skills and all that shit."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "If you're unhappy with that part of yourself, you can change. New behaviors can be learned..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like deep-throating?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Tell me, does it really feel different if a woman deep throats? Or is it mostly a visual thing? Guys just want to see their penis disappear into a woman's mouth. Because I'm not very good at that. I mean I can take it in all the way, but not for very long. I've read books about it, but nothing works--I have a sensitive gag reflex. It must be all those years of being bulimic..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We're almost out of time."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe if I had regular practice..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's enough, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Another rejection. I'm deeply wounded."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, I'm going away on vacation."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "For Christmas?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll also be gone for the month of January."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You'll be gone six weeks? That really sucks, you know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "My father had a stroke. I'd like to spend some time with my family."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doctor Balis, the dutiful son."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "There will be a doctor filling in for me, Doctor Whitestone. If you need to meet with someone, give her a call."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe she can give me some deep throating tips."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So are you two humping or what?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "She's a colleague of mine."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "So you guys don't fuck? Is she butt-ugly? I don't want to see no ugly-ass shrink. Homely people are depressing. That's why I avoid mirrors."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "She's a very qualified therapist."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Does she have big tits?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "As a matter of fact, she does. Goodbye, Sharon. I'll see you in February."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. Have a safe trip."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Thank you, Sharon. Take care and Marry Christmas and Happy New..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sure."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 5th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, December 12, 1997 at 10:00 am.\nHi, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Sharon. How are you feeling?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know, kind of tense and anxious."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you still dreading your weekly sessions?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, actually, I was going to ask you something. It's been bothering me for awhile, but I wasn't sure how to bring it up. I've been thinking about this a lot. Remember last week I told you about how Charlotte and I met?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I believe you said it was through some sort of alternative community in San Francisco."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah. That isn't going to go in my file, is it? I don't want anyone to know about this."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "As I've said before, everything you say here is confidential."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. I feel a little funny talking about this. It's like I unearthed this old relic from my past life. I always think of my life before the hospitalization as \"my past life,\" as opposed to my life right now."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I should get to the point. I really hate the thought of discussing this. I'm afraid you'll think less of me. You'll think I'm immoral or a scum-bag or something. You probably already do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "My purpose here is not to render judgment. I'd like you to be able to express yourself freely here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. About five years ago, I got involved with this San Francisco group called The Society of Janus. Have you heard of it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "They're involved with sadomaschochism, aren't they?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's an S&M club--kind of a \"how-to\" S&M organization. This guy I was dating was involved in it, and I had always been curious about that sort of thing. So I went to some of their functions and parties, and I met this woman who introduced me to Charlotte."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It seems like such a long time ago. I try to block the memories out."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are the memories painful?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, you could say that. I went in with an open mind, really curious and excited about finding out what it was all about. And at first, it was a lot of fun. It was really exhilarating. I never thought I would do such things, you know, especially not in front of an audience. But I think I got in over my head. And now I'm afraid the same thing will happen to Charlotte."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you afraid that Charlotte will have a bad experience?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I felt like it was...kind of like it was damaging for me. I met this whole group of people who had abandoned conventional morality. A lot of them practiced what they called \"polyamory\"--this is a new-age term for non-monogamy. It seemed like this utopian community, where people with unconventional sexual practices could be free and open about their lifestyle. People commonly referred to themselves as \"perverts,\" like it was something to be proud of. At first, I felt like I had found a place where I belonged, you know? Like when Odo the shape-shifter went out into the Gamma Quadrant and found his own people."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Pardon?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sorry, that was a Star Trek reference. Do you watch \"Deep Space Nine?\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Occasionally. Did you become disillusioned with this community?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yes. It seems like this sort of thing attracts a lot of unconventional types. I heard people say that the S&M community was full of fat losers. Maybe that's not a fair assessment. I met a lot of...I don't know how to say it. I guess they were really obsessive, needy, desperate people. And you know it's funny--people who practice S&M always go on and on about being responsible. They always say that what they do is \"safe, sane, and consensual.\" But what I found through personal experience is that most of them don't practice what they preach and--for all their posturing about being this evolved, enlightened, sexually-liberated group--they really are very intolerant and narrow-minded."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's an interesting paradox. I've heard similar criticisms about the gay community."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Don't get me started! The women in the lesbian S&M community are such total anal-retentive Nazis. They treated me like an outcast. I got all kinds of flak for being too femme. Maybe they would have accepted me if I had a crew cut and a nose ring."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has Charlotte voiced concerns similar to yours?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, she does acknowledge that they can be a bunch of jerks. But she's really caught up in it, just like I was a few years ago. Charlotte finds it glamorous and exciting, and she loves going to parties and all the gossip and cliques. She seems particularly infatuated with people who are celebrities in the community--professional dominants who have a following. I don't think her perception of it is realistic. It looks like she's going to throw away her marriage so she can chase this fantasy. It seems so unfair to Robin."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What is his attitude towards all this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He's resigned. He doesn't say much. In fact, he's about as quiet and shy as I am. But the few comments he's made and his general demeanor and tone of voice lead me to believe he feels betrayed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "So Robin doesn't share Charlotte's interests?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I don't think he does. And it's weird, I really identify with Charlotte's infatuation with all this. She's like a kid with a new toy, it's all she ever talks about. She seems proud of it almost, she's constantly name-dropping and talking about these exclusive parties she gets invited to. It's almost like she's in high school. The community is very cliquey, and she really wants to hang out with the \"in-crowd.\" I feel as if I'm watching home movies of myself. It kind of makes me cringe."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. Partly, I'm concerned that she's in for a big disappointment. And maybe I'm a little envious that she seems to enjoy it so much, because I always had problems. And I feel for Robin, too. He's getting shafted. He's been made to feel like an outsider, and he hasn't done anything wrong. I've found that when people talk about polyamory...god I hate that word. It's one of those mushy new-age expressions. When people say they want to be polyamorous or non-monogamous, what they really mean is they want someone else to put up with them sleeping around. And that's what Charlotte wants Robin to do. And in a way, I can understand it. What she's doing can be risky. Not just physically, but emotionally. I'm sure she feels a lot safer with someone to come home to. Robin has always been there for her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I guess I'm a little jealous. I usually don't have anyone--no steady relationship. It seems like I'm always the other woman or the transitional person. I'm good enough to fuck when no one else is available, but no one wants me for the long haul. That's another reason why non-monogamy sucks. Someone is always second best, namely me. But I can understand why, though, as screwed up as I am."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's a rather harsh assessment of yourself."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, it's the truth."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Earlier, you mentioned having problems with the people you met in this group. What kind of problems?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It all seems so silly and trivial now. It was mostly gossip. I'm pretty awkward socially, so I was the butt of a lot of people's jokes. I dated some people--both men and women--who were really obsessive and wouldn't leave me alone. I wasn't used to being talked about. It seems in the heterosexual S&M community, there is a big gender imbalance. I'd go to a social event, and there would be all these guys leering at me. And since it's a sexually liberated type of environment, they weren't exactly delicate or tactful about saying what they wanted."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you find this demeaning?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yeah. It seems like if you want to be a sexually liberated woman, you're condemned no matter where you go. People kept saying such nasty things about me--that I was a slut, that I stole boyfriends and husbands. Maybe I did, but they told me they were in open relationships. What was I supposed to do, interrogate everyone they slept with and ask if it was okay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It was like I couldn't do anything right. I don't know why this has come up now. I mean, I don't know why it bothers me so much. I'm sure Charlotte will be just fine. She's older, more mature, and more confident. She'll be able to take care of herself."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What about Robin?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's hard to tell with him. He's such a cipher. I can sense he's unhappy, and Charlotte complains bitterly about their sex life...or lack thereof. She made a curious comment over the weekend. She said she was glad that I had moved in, because I would \"keep him company\" and she wouldn't have to spend as much time there. I'm not sure what that means."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Does Charlotte consider you as a some sort of replacement for her husband?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Maybe. I don't know. Am I supposed to be a surrogate wife? I hope she doesn't expect me to sleep with him. The idea of having sex with anyone is so repugnant. Ugh!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You say that with great conviction."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It really grosses me out. Bodily secretions, and nudity, and being touched...it's all just too disgusting. I sound so puritanical. I used to enjoy sex. Now, just thinking about it makes me want to hurl. I don't even like when people touch me. I'd much rather pet a cat."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Or a ferret. How's Harriet, by the way?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She seems traumatized by the move. Robin has two cats, so Harriet stays in my room. I'm not sure if ferrets are cat-compatible."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I recently acquired a cat myself. A kitten, actually."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Really? One of Robin's cats is very young. She acts like a kitten. Kittens are a trip, aren't they? They don't behave anything like grown cats. They're not aloof or dignified at all. They're the silliest, most uninhibited creatures."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "They are quite a handful. By the way, have you given any thought to pursuing legal action against your landlord?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "A part of me wants to. I'd like to really stick it to him--file a lawsuit and take all his money. Except he doesn't have any. While I lived there, he and his wife fought about money all the time. They were in debt, the place was mortgaged to the hilt. If I sued, there's a good chance I wouldn't get anything, and then I'd be stuck with the legal bills. Besides, their bullshit child-molestation charge would come back to haunt me. If that came up during a trial and my sexual history became an issue...I just couldn't stand it. If they found out what a slut I was and all the things I've done, a judge might think I actually did it. It's all too complicated."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wonder if Charlotte will have the same regrets someday. While I was experimenting, I never thought about the consequences. I was too caught up in the moment. It's like living in a fantasy world, where you feel like no one can touch you. You get so caught up in the social world and chasing your sexual fantasies, that you lose touch with the real world. Maybe that's not such a bad thing, though. Reality sucks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds as though you had a number of memorable negative experiences. Did you have any positive experiences?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, yeah. There were a few times when I actually enjoyed what I did and liked who I did it with. But I tend to dwell on the negative."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Would you say your negative experiences outweighed the positive ones?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It seems like every positive experience had a price tag attached. I'd say the emotional cost was too high. I'd play with someone, and they'd act like they owned me and would take for granted that I was there to do anything they wanted. Someone I dated said that being a submissive woman is like carrying a big sign that says \"treat me like shit.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Isn't S&M supposed to be consensual? I've often heard that people who engage in that sort of activity discuss everything beforehand and use safe words."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, people say that, but not everyone means it. Once you're tied up, bound, and gagged, you're at someone else's mercy. And members of the community are very good at parroting the party line--they know all the right things to say. I don't know. It's probably my fault. I didn't communicate enough or work hard enough to protect myself, and now I'm crying \"victim.\" And now, I'm probably projecting all my own fears onto Charlotte."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't be so quick to discount your feelings. It sounds as though there is a basis for them."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, well...I did hear of other young women in the community who are having the same problems. New members to a group like Janus--especially females--find themselves surrounded by predators. One of the Janus group leaders commented that he would take bets to see how long they'd last."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. You were hesitant about discussing this with me at first. How do you feel now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All right, I guess. I'm a little relieved. You didn't yell at me or told me what a stupid slut I was."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'd like you to feel safe about discussing uncomfortable subjects here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm just not very open about this sort of thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad that you're trying, Sharon. And I feel we're making real progress."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I feel like I'm being graded--like those scores the judges at the Olympics give. Did I get a perfect ten?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm not in the habit of giving numeric scores, but I'd say you're doing well. Same time next week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, that'll work. Thanks, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Goodbye, Sharon."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 6th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Friday, December 19, 1997 at 10:00 am.\nHello, Sharon. You're a little early."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I am? I've been trying to get here on time; I was late so much before."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Well, I appreciate your efforts. How was your week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's been hectic. I've been working a lot of late nights. I don't really mind it though, because I can lose myself in my work. And I've been a real social butterfly this week--I actually left the house twice this week to interact with other people."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Good for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not really. I was miserable both times. Last Saturday, Charlotte took me to a benefit for the San Francisco AIDS Emergency Fund. It was held at the Eagle, which is a gay men's leather bar. Some of Charlotte's friends from the S&M community were there."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. So was this an S&M event?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Not exactly. The Eagle caters to men who like to dress up in leather. So there were a lot of people dressed in leather or fetish wear, which is usually associated with S&M. But there weren't any public floggings, if that's what you mean."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Charlotte really loves these things. She bought herself a new outfit because she was going to give some sort of speech or presentation or something. I was just going to wear black jeans and a T-shirt. But it was clear that she wanted me to be her date and play the role of the bimbo."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What makes you say that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She's done this sort of thing before--taking me to a gay event and passing me off as her girlfriend. It always makes me uncomfortable, but I go along with it anyway. This time, she picked out what I was going to wear so I'd look right for the part. I ended up in this tight black dress that I was practically falling out of. I haven't worn it in years. I always feel weird in stuff like that. I don't have the right attitude to pull it off. I just look awkward. It was obvious Charlotte wanted to put me on display."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What happened at the party?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "The place was packed. It was hot and dark. And I had to stand the entire time in these foot-crippling high-heeled shoes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Excruciating. It was. And the worst part of it was that Charlotte kept telling me what an exclusive event it was--I was lucky to be there with her, because this is where all the cool people were. She even said that when other people see me with her, they'd assume that I must be the world's greatest slave--they all knew how selective she is. She told me stand to her left, slightly behind her, like a good submissive. I had to fetch her drinks and make sure no one took her chair."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How did this make you feel?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Annoyed. But I gritted my teeth and did it anyway. I felt like I owed her. She's done so much for me--giving me a place to live and all."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Doesn't sound like you enjoyed yourself."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I hated it. I resented her for bringing me there and for passing me off like I was her whore. She kept touching me and trying to feed me cake. When she talked to her friends, she talked about me in the third person as though I wasn't there. It was like I was \"the little woman,\" you know? The way men in the 1940's and 1950's thought of their wives."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It sounds demeaning."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes! I've never been much of a feminist, but this really felt sexist even though it was coming from another woman. And the funny thing is that Charlotte was a really militant feminist in her college days. She called herself a \"gyne-facist.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Did you tell her how you felt?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. I'm a big wimp. I didn't want to disappoint her. I think she was kind of let down, though. When she went on the stage to give her speech, I retreated to the bar so I could sit. I guess she expected me to gaze up at her adoringly, like a good slave should."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You mentioned that Charlotte has done this sort of thing before..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "She's quite taken with the women's S&M community. I can understand why she's doing it, why she's playing this game. The women's community isn't very accepting of heterosexuals, or even of bisexuals. Charlotte just wanted to look like she belonged. I felt the same way a few years ago, but I wasn't able to find someone to be my beard."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Beard? You mean a woman who pretends to be the wife or girlfriend of a gay man?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, but in this instance, I'm pretending to be the partner of a wanna-be lesbian."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You seem to deeply resent this."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I do. It really pisses me off. But I went along with it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Because of your sense of obligation to Charlotte?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Because I'm weak and spineless. I do feel like I owe her because she gave me a place to stay, though I suspect she has ulterior motives. That was one of the problems I had in the S&M community--I never felt I could trust anyone. It seemed like everyone was out to get laid. And if they pretended to be nice to you, it was only because they wanted to get in your pants."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do you think Charlotte might be attracted to you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't know. Maybe. I think she's more infatuated with the idea of having a girlfriend. That way, she can brag that she's got a husband and a little slave girl."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Last week, you mentioned that Charlotte doesn't live in the same house with you and Robin."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, Charlotte has her own apartment. Sometimes, she visits on the weekends. She and Robin have weekly dates. She doesn't enjoy it at all, though. She gets this resigned, dour look on her face and snaps and snarls at him. Robin is very sweet, almost slavish in his devotion. He does whatever she wants him to do, excluding the whips-and-chains stuff."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "And Robin is aware of her other activities?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He said he doesn't want to know. I'm sure he suspects the worst. When we got home that night, he was hiding in his study. He doesn't want to deal with it. I have a feeling it really bothers him. It must be emasculating for him. Men always get so defensive if their sexual prowess is ever called into question. I saw him the next morning, and he was kind of cautious, you know? He asked me if I had a good time, but didn't ask for details. He seemed amused when I told him I was really glad when it was over."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I saw my sister on Sunday. That was another excruciating experience. I really am a masochist."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What makes you say that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My sister is a bitch. Unlike me, she has no trouble saying what she wants and making demands of others. She wanted me to take her shopping, ordered me around, and told me where to go. Linda doesn't even try to be tactful."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "During lunch, she said that the eldest child is supposed to care for the parents, according to Japanese tradition. Then she said that, of course, she would have to take on that responsibility, because I didn't make enough money. She always has to tell me what a failure I am. She's hypercritical. I was goofing around in the mall, looking at wind-up toys in the children's toy store. Linda, who has no patience, said she didn't have all day to wait for me and that I looked like a fucking retard playing with children's toys. And, of course, she had to throw in that I needed to go back on Lithium and see a shrink. When she goes on one of her rants, she sounds just like my father."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Was your father excessively critical of you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You mentioned earlier that your father was abusive."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": ""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Those are very hurtful things for a parent to say."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Sometimes, I have these fantasies about getting back at him. I think of visiting him in the hospital when he's seriously ill and has all these tubes coming out of him. I'd like to scream insults at him and throw things at him when he's helpless and weak and can't defend himself. I'd like to tell him what a fucking loser I think he is."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you ever talked to your father about your feelings for him?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No, I haven't spoken to him in years. Sometimes, I send him a card at Christmas. My mother told me that he was contrite, that he's stopped drinking and changed. Actually, I did confront him once when I was in high school, while I still lived at home. He laughed at me and said I was making it all up. He didn't remember specific incidents that I recalled. But I know it isn't fantasy. I'm not delusional."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Many alcoholics use denial as a way of avoiding their problems."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I wish I hadn't said anything now. I'm really pissed off."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's natural that you'd feel angry..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't think I'll ever get over it. I really don't want to see my sister again. She brings back a lot of bad feelings and memories. I'd like to have nothing to do with my family ever again."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It is possible to come to terms with your anger and resentment towards your family through therapy. But it takes a lot of work, it requires a real commitment to getting better."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "That's how you guys make so much money. What a racket. It's a conspiracy. I bet you're in cahoots with my father."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "We all are, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Ha! I knew it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "All kidding aside, I realize that your coming here reflects a desire to get better, to come to terms with your past. I'm glad that you feel safe enough now to open up during our sessions."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Now I really wish I hadn't said anything."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't like being that vulnerable, I guess. I feel like you know too much now and will use that information to make fun of me, like that last dickhead therapist that I had."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't malign all therapists because of one bad experience. I hope that you'll develop enough trust in me to feel comfortable being vulnerable here."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Can't you just pump me full of drugs so I don't care anymore?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That's hardly a constructive approach, especially with your medical history."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Damn. That means I won't get Xanax any more."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I might consider prescribing a non-addictive anti-depressant at a very low dosage if it was necessary. But you seem to be making progress without any medication."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm going to make a note to myself to act more crazy when I come here."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad to see you still have a sense of humor."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, I'm a real card. Sometimes, I think my sister and father were right--I am a total idiot and a loser, and my life is hopeless. I don't know. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore. I'm just babbling on and on."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You might feel overwhelmed right now. That's understandable. You've been through a lot in the past few weeks. I feel gratified that you've continued your therapy this far, which means you must have some interest in getting better."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I want to get better. I want to be a normal person, instead of the screwed up neurotic that I am. I just don't want to work at it. Too bad there's no \"normal pill\" you can take to make you a happy, well-adjusted person."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You've revealed quite a bit in this session. How do you feel now?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Like I should have kept my mouth shut. But at least now you know. I don't have to tiptoe around the past like I used to. I don't have to be so cautious about what I say. That's good, isn't it?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it is. Next week I won't be having regular sessions--it's Christmas and New Year. So I'll see you on January 9th at this same time. All right?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "All right. Thanks, Doctor Balis. Merry Christmas."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Bye, Sharon. Merry Christmas."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of Telephone Call between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 10:00 am.\nHey, Doctor Balis. How's your carpet?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Fine, Sharon. How are you? Have you been to a doctor?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yes, I had an appointment yesterday. I was diagnosed with stage III endometriosis. It's a condition where uterine cells grow outside the uterus on other...um, organs. That explains the bleeding and abdominal pain."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sounds serious. Are you going to be treated for this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I was browsing the web, and I read that endometriosis is frequently misdiagnosed. So I was thinking of getting a second opinion, except this damned HMO won't pay for it."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "A second opinion is a good idea. But don't wait too long to get treatment."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've been scheduled for a laparoscopic examination on Friday. That's a surgical procedure to remove the...uh, endometrial implants. But I want to see another gynecologist before then to rule out the possibility something else, like pelvic inflammatory disease. But maybe I should forget about getting a second opinion. I hate pelvic exams anyway."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think laparoscopy will confirm the diagnosis. So if you have a chance, get the second opinion. I believe getting immediate treatment is in your best interest."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I just want to get this over with."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "How are you feeling otherwise? I was a little concerned--you sounded very depressed the last time I saw you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Did I sound depressed before or after I puked on your carpet?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Before, if I remember correctly. Afterward, you seemed genuinely remorseful."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was. Did the stain come out?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, it did. They've come up with some wonderful industrial-strength solvents for carpet cleaning. Don't worry about it, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I feel so terrible. It is so embarrassing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's all right, I'm glad you are getting medical attention. How has your mood been?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay, I guess. It's kind of a relief not having to be at work. I've been watching a lot of tabloid trash on television. I can't get enough of the presidential sex scandal. It's a great escape--I'm drowning my sorrows in bad TV. I was hoping I would get some really cool meds so I could dope myself up, but all I got was Extra-Strength Tylenol. They didn't even give me some Tylenol with Codeine, those bastards!"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Are you in a lot of pain?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If I say yes, will you write me a prescription?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I think we've already discussed why it would be unwise to prescribe heavy pain killers to someone who has previously overdosed on prescription medications."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'd be willing to sign a waiver, exempting you from any liability."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I take it you won't be coming in for your session this week?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Oh, yeah, that's right. And maybe I should call to verify for the following week. I'm not sure how I'll feel afterward."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "That sounds like a good idea. I'll look forward to hearing from you. Good luck, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Take care."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of Telephone Call between Charles Balis, M.D. and Mr. Robin Young respecting Sharon Lough, Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 11:00 am.\nThis is Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hello, Doctor Balis? You're Sharon's therapist, aren't you?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Who am I speaking with?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "This is Robin Young. Sharon and I have been...uh, she's been staying here for the past few weeks."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hello, Mr. Young. How can I help you?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Do you have any idea where she is? She hasn't come home for a few days."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "No, I haven't heard from her."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "There was a...ah...well, there was a rather unpleasant incident here awhile ago, and Sharon ran off. I can't say I blame her. It was pretty upsetting."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm. How long ago was this?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Last week. Charlotte, my ex-wife...ah, my wife...well, she doesn't live here. But anyway, she came by unexpectedly, and things got rather ugly."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "With all the racket Charlotte was making, I didn't even hear when Sharon left. She bolted out of the bedroom, and by the time Charlotte stopped ranting and raving, I noticed that Sharon's car was gone. She didn't even take her coat, and it was freezing outside. I thought she'd return the following night, but she didn't. I tried calling her at work, but I couldn't reach her there either. I was frantic. I started going through her things, trying to find the phone number of a friend or someone she knows. I looked through her organizer and found your number."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I don't usually go through her things, but I was just so worried."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'm glad you called. Unfortunately, though, I haven't heard from Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "If you do, would you please ask her to call me? She knows my number. Tell her she can come back here, and that she's always welcome, regardless of what Charlotte says. I'm terribly worried."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I'll do that."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "And, Doctor Balis, there's just one more thing."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not sure how to say this. I don't want her to get into any trouble."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I am her doctor. Anything you tell me about Sharon will be held in confidence."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. While I was rummaging through her things, I found a needle. A hypodermic needle."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "As far as I know, Sharon isn't diabetic. She could be using the needles for piercing. Some people do that, you know."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But I didn't think Sharon is into piercing. I didn't find any drugs, though she could have taken them with her."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Has she demonstrated any signs of drug use?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I've smelled marijuana a few times, but I didn't think she used any hard drugs, certainly not intravenous drugs. I know about her history of drug use, and I thought...I don't know, I thought she was clean. I didn't think the marijuana use was all that serious. I've smoked it myself, it's really not a big deal. But now, I'm thinking maybe I should have said something. I should have been more aware. I know that addicts can be very adept at hiding their drug use."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have you called the police or filed a missing person's report?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Well, I thought about that, but I didn't want to bring up the drug thing and so..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see. I'm not going to advise you about whether or not to file a missing person's report, but from what you describe, it seems more likely that Sharon's angry or upset rather than in any physical danger."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "You're right. But can you call me if she comes in to see you? Or ask her to call me?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Of course."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thank you, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You're welcome. Goodbye, Mr. Young."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Goodbye."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of Telephone Conversation between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Sharon Lough, Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 2:30 pm.\nDoctor Balis?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "It's Sharon. I don't know what to do."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What's the matter?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "My landlord...he just called me. He says I have to get out of my apartment. He says I have to leave today. I had an argument with him over the weekend, and he told me to get out. I still had the rest of this month and next month. But today, he called and said I had to leave right away."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "He can't do that. To my knowledge, San Francisco rent ordinances prohibit..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "He said I molested his youngest son--that I inappropriately touched him. That's total bullshit. He's just making it up to get rid of me. I can't believe they would sink so low. They said if I came back, they would call the police and have me arrested."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, you need to call an attorney..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "What am I going to do? He says he'll throw out all my stuff if I don't get out today. He threatened to kill me if I came near his kids again. I can't believe he's doing this! I can't believe this is happening."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Sharon, calm down. You've got to talk to an attorney right away. Do you know one?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But what am I going to do?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You need someone specializing in criminal work. I don't happen to know anyone in San Francisco, but..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But I can't go back there now! Where am I going to stay?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Is there someone you can stay with?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Um, well, yeah. I know some people. I used to feed their cats when they went on vacation. I have the keys to their house..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Don't just go to their house. Give them a call and ask if you can stay for a few days. Tell them what happened. Maybe they can recommend a lawyer for you."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "But what about all my stuff? What about Harriet? And I've got so much work to do..."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "This is serious. Take Harriet with you, of course. The attorney will also give you a recommendation on what to do about your living arrangements, okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay. I'm sorry. I'm just so panicked. I didn't think he'd stoop that low."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "It's going to be okay, Sharon."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Yeah, you're right."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Call your friend, and then find an attorney as soon as possible. You might want to call the San Francisco Bar Association for a referral, okay?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Okay."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Listen, Sharon, we're seeing each other tomorrow morning, right? I'll see you at ten am. But you need to talk to an attorney in the meantime."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Thanks. Goodbye, Doctor Balis. I'll see you tomorrow."
}
] |
[
{
"from": "system",
"value": "Transcript of 1st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Madeline Trent, Monday, August 10, 1998 at 11:00 am.\nPardon me, is this Doctor Balis' office?"
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Yes, I'm Doctor Balis. Please come in."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hi, I'm Madeline Trent. It's nice to meet you, Doctor Balis."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Have a seat please, Ms. Trent."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Please call me Madeline. Jesse, as I'm sure he's told you, has a penchant for calling me Maddie. I prefer Madeline."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Madeline, before we get into the..."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Jesse has explained to me that you're a bit uncomfortable seeing both Jesse and me. I can understand your apprehension. I'm sure this could be considered a conflict of interests. Please be assured that I have no intention of crossing the line of doctor-patient confidentiality. Jesse may be my husband, but what he says to you is strictly between the two of you. And I know that you will treat my sessions with the same respect and confidence. I'm not here for marital counseling, despite what my husband believes."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Doctor Balis, I'm sure our discussions will proceed without incident. I just hope that when I say things about my husband you can catalog them as \"Madeline's husband,\" not as \"Jesse Trent, the patient.\""
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I will do my best, Madeline. So why don't we get started? I want you to tell me why you feel you need my help."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm totally stressed--completely, totally, incredibly, exhaustibly stressed."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "I see."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I'm not even sure where to begin. My husband and I have been married for several years. It was a wonderful, whirlwind romance. We must have fallen in love with each other the moment our eyes met. The envy of all our friends, our romance was the stuff fairy tales are made of. But somewhere along the way, I grew up. My husband didn't."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Go on."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Now that we are parents and have to be \"real\" adults, I'm the one carrying the weight of the family. I'm finding the stress, coupled with other external stressors, to be unbearable. I'm testy and snappish."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "What are the external stress factors?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Hmm. Well, maybe if I explain all of this quickly, I won't break down into tears."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Do what makes you feel most comfortable, Madeline."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was raped last year. It wasn't a picnic, but then no rape ever is. You may have heard about the rapist, he was in the paper when they caught him a few months ago. He was the property manager for the building where I live. I think that's the part that has bothered me the most since he was captured."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Why is that?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "I was expecting some psychotic maniac with wild, stringy hair, low education...maybe even a junkie. A clean-cut, educated, professional man who could have passed for a minister was not who I imagined as my attacker."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "You didn't recognize him during the attack?"
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "No. Most of what he did to me occurred after I lost consciousness. The doctors in the emergency room said they would be surprised if I were able to get pregnant. Little did they know that my husband had sealed the deal just before the attack. I've never told my husband, but I don't know if our sweet Natalie will ever have a brother or sister."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Hmm."
},
{
"from": "human",
"value": "Natalie, my daughter, is a miracle. She's truly an angel sent to save my sanity."
},
{
"from": "gpt",
"value": "Children are precious."
}
] |
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