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` :My first block was completely unjustified. Wikipedia has been running articles on the main page recently with blatant left-wing biases. And how the hell was I supposed to know that I would be blocked for being ``uncivil``? I haven't done anything that administrators don't do (with the exception of randomly blocking people, of course). `
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` == Article itself violation of WP policy == From WP:Criticism ``Don't make articles entirely devoted to criticism of a topic that has or should have its own wikipedia article.`` Obviously this article is an open violation of that rule. That this article is blatantly POV-biased and works only to elaborate on collections of derogatory critiques is merely a consequence of the fact that the article itself is intended to be a POV fork. Comments? Remedy? `
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::: I used profanity in my edit summaries, but I didn't know anything was wrong with that. A warning would have worked. It's the same thing that administrators do. Being blocked for 48 hours is just gay.
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:::::Look at this admin's edit history. It's filthy.
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Why would anybody even object to the Neutral POV tag being placed on this article is beyond me, it is so obviously biased. 22 June 2006
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:: With Jimbo's increasing pressure for articles on living people to be assiduously cited and sourced, it's increasingly more important to have direct references attached to specific sentences, or at least paragraphs. Note the specificity of articles like Ann Coulter, David Miscavige, or Ashlee Simpson.......
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== Fighting dinos == Thanks for message, Spawn. Sadly, although I do have PhotoShop, I've never used it yet - I believe it would take a little while to acquire the necessary skills to do a good job. Your man is , who has done some great edits on my shots. He may well be able to do the honours. All the best - (copied to Casliber)
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I wrote the original piece about J.M. but I didn't add the section that NihonJoe has trouble with. However, if we look at it, I also see no problem with it. My understanding of a true naturalist would be someone who would be concerned with the changes that modern society would bring, ESPECIALLY to a small island with a very unique ecosystem. To deny that modern society does NOT bring about changes, whether positive or negative, would be POV. I met Jack twice. The first was June, 1997, on Miyake. The local JET was hosting a group of other JETs for a diving expedition. While we were visiting, Jacques Mayol (the diver of Le Grand Bleu fame) was also there and the two Jacks/Jacques gave a talk about the environment and the ecosytem. What I remember most distinctly was the warm welcome that both men received from the over-flowing crowd of locals. The locals, TOO, were concerned about the same issues that the Jacks/Jacques were talking about. But it was a bureaucracy and a construction industry based in Tokyo that were pushing more and more construction on the fragile ecosystems. I spent two years on Niijima ('96-'98). I know too well about roads and bridges to nowhere but red ink and a destroyed ecology. Visit Kozushima please. The industry forced onto the islanders and mountain tunnel on a remote, unused, and uninhabited corner of the island that goes to the end of the tunnel only. At the end of a tunnel? A barricade so you don't crash into the water below. That's it. I'm removing the POV tag.
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` I'm skeptical of these 'Criticisms of..`` articles. I don't think any objective reader would characterize this article as NPOV. Personally, I've been so fed up trying to bring NPOV (or multiple-POV to be more precise) that I've all but given up editing actual articles, and stuck to talk pages. I'd say the fact that ``Criticism Of Islam`` is about 3 times as big as the ``Islam`` article says something about the motivation behind the 'construction' of this article. Anyway, if this article can be made NPOV by accurately and correctly representing all views, then I guess that's okay. `
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==Progressive Conservative Party still exists== According to your Rump section, there are still Progressive Conservatives who sit in parliament. So the party is not dead. See the extract below. Rump PC caucus Following the merger, a rump Progressive Conservative caucus remained in Parliament, consisting of individuals who declined to join the new Conservative Party. In the House of Commons, Joe Clark, André Bachand and John Herron sat as PC members. In the 2004 election, Bachand and Clark did not to run for re-election, and Herron ran as a Liberal, losing to Rob Moore in his riding of Fundy—Royal. Scott Brison, who had joined the Liberal caucus immediately upon departing the Conservative Party, was reelected as a Liberal in the 2004 election. In the Senate, William Doody, Lowell Murray and Norman Atkins also declined to join the new party, and continue to sit as Progressive Conservative senators. On March 24, 2005, Prime Minister Paul Martin appointed nine new senators, two of whom, Nancy Ruth and Elaine McCoy, were designated as Progressive Conservatives. Thus there may be Progressive Conservative senators until 2021 when McCoy, the youngest of the five, attains the mandatory retirement age of 75, or later if subsequent senators designate themselves Progressive Conservatives. Nancy Ruth has since left to sit with the Conservative Party. Adding the death of Senator Doody on December 27, 2005, this reduced the number of PC Senators to three.
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` ::and dont forget a certain ``mr. c`` who was involved in sexual harrasment!`
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Huh? Did I do something wrong?
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`==Theringi's vandalism== You ought to post to the Adminnistrator's page where you can request a block. Trying to paste the page to here now. Here is the link. This is for Theringi. Request an IP adress or user to be blocked on this page == Vancouver schools == Thanks for starting up some school articles. Here are some stubs and categories you might find helpful: * * Category:Private schools in British Columbia * Category:High schools in British Columbia * Category:Elementary schools in British Columbia == My IP has been blocked without reason == Please unblock my IP 24.80.228.68 {{unblock}} You were blocked for the following reason- 24.80.228.68 on blacklist, added by User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me at 01:50:14 24-May-2006 UTC, ``Autoblacklist: repeated vandalism for several days``, Expires 04:50:14 27-Jun-2006 UTC Did you not make edits under that IP? : I did not! : :I'm replying to your helpme; Sadly, the individuals on helpme patrol are not administrators, you'll have to wait for the official reply to your unblock request. :: As above do not use the {{helpme}} tag for unblock requests, it doesn't get you unblocked any quicker and wastes the time of those who watch the helpme tags. I've removed the block now so you should be able to edit. () ==Lenny Kravitz== Hi TheMadBomber, cute name. I see that you added ``Jewish-American`` to Lenny's bio. I reverted it back since that isn't standard biographical formatting. His ethnicity should be discussed further into the article. Thanks! == Re: Prussian Blue mp3 == If you'd checked the talk page, you'd have seen that I've had a message for you there for a long time regarding the mp3 which I removed, and which you recently reinserted, and which has been removed once again. Specifically, the mp3 does not have any material regarding Prussian Blue in it. The interview is between a DJ at KERN radio and an 11 year old girl named ``Ellie Mae``. While the mp3 does cover the topic of white nationalism and racism (as the little girl is obviously being coached by her parents on what to say). No one in the mp3 is identified as being one of the Gaedes, or even a fan of their music. Prussian Blue and the Gaedes are never mentioned in the mp3. The mp3 therefore does not support the claim that Prussian Blue are ``just proud of their heritage``. Cheers, == Please do not remove my header (shown below) from my talk page. == Thanks! :Is that picture copy righted or does it belong to you? ) == Tom the picture used in my header (shown below) is in the public domain. So I am free to use it on my talk page. == :Image:Prince Albert Piercing.jpg I appreciate your concern. :How does that picture have anything to do with discussion concerning Wikipedia? I think I am in violation of feeding the trolls so I am going to have to reign things in abit. == Your talk page == Dear Mad Bomber, Your talk page violates WP:USER. The image on the page has nothing to do with Wikipedia and presumably serves to dissuade people from reading and using your talk page. If you do not remove it, I will list it at WP:MFD. Please respond on my talk page, as I am not going to return to yours. :You might be interested to read this discussion (begun by Mwalcoff) on the administrators' noticeboard. The emerging consensus seems to be that your usage of the image may not be de jure proscribed by WP:USER (and may not, to most of us, be at all unsettling or offensive) but that the image, rightly or wrongly, appears to be serving to disrupt (or, at the very least, to inhibit collegial collaboration) and that it might be decorous of you to remove it. Feel free, though, to interpret the debate differently... The thing about the picture is that people do not expect to see it on a talk page. Therefor it shocks them. I am wondering why it is you want the picture on your talk page in the first place? It is certainly an unusual thing to do. I think you need to either remove it, or at least put some sort of explanation next to it to explain to people why you have such a picture on your talk page. To Mwalcoff this picture illustrate a wikipedia article - so it is not going to be deleteted. | I've removed the two duplicates from this page as it seems to me that they were just there to anger those feeling offended in the first place. Likewise placing vandalism templates on people's talk pages who remove the image also serves only to escalate the dispute rather than resolve it so please don't do that. Also don't insert the picture on other people's talk pages. if they are unhappy about you have the photo on your talk page then it must be obvious to you that they will not want you to put it on there's no will they? It is much better to actually talk to people rather than dismiss them. Cheers | I've fixed /header to remove the picture. In my opinion this is an absolutely crystal clear case of vandalism. Any similarly malicious edits will get you a block. ===Fine NSDAP wins=== I have no desire to fight you fascist tyrrants anymore. ==Personal attacks== I have blocked you for one week for making a racist personal attack.'''''' | :I think I should be unblocked. Usually when niggs call eachother niggs (like I did), it's not considered racist. : ==Tha Undertaker== While the page was a candidate to be deleted you should not blank the page but tag it. See Wikipedia:Speedy deletions and Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks. : I just like to say that thank you for removing the vanity page immediatly. You made my day when I saw it gone. -`
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;Guidelines for my talk page:: *Be nice and civil at all times. *Unsigned messages will not be replied to.
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==To RobertG== I ask you to cancel your blockage that is completely unjustified and highly dishonest. I was ready fully to have a discussion on my article on the discussion page of Bosendorfer when you intervene to prevent me from publishing this article by blocking me indefinitely. I will complain of your shameful and despicable vandalism that is completely unjustified. I believe that you let your emotions take over your reason and it is now time to get back to reason. That is not all. You even blocked me from sending you messages on your talk page. How convenient?!! Be sure that I will contact the founders of Wikipedia and I will tell them the nightmare people have to go through just to write a less than one page article! For your information, there are millions of pages on products. See the page on iPod if you are not aware of this fact. Get back to reason. You have no facts whatsoever to justify your blockage!! Be sure I will follow the complaint procedure to have this blockage removed. Are you proud of your shameful behaviour of blocking me for no reasons? I am perfectly entitled to have my points of view on different people who intervened and to express these points of view. It is perfectly acceptable to have one's own points of view. Get back to reason. Your behaviour will be assessed by Wikipedia and will be found to be irrational. I was having a discussion on my article and Andrew Norman and you RobertG joined forces to prevent me from carrying on my open discussion on the Bosendorfer discussion page when I was fully entitled to do so only because you never wanted to see my article published. Again, get back to reason!! MichaelIsGreat
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== List of Highschool! Kimen-gumi episodes == You said you didn't understand how tamplates worked. I have taken the liberty to apply a style. Feel free to revert if you think it is unacceptable. A note. if you ever add episode summaries to other episodes, the aproporate field will be created with the optional parameter.
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I'll add discussion here, and then revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Maria_Vladimirovna
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` ::I agree. Her actual usage is ``of Russia``. I will revert now to the version that we have all consented to. `
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` :It's such a great country that we're going to call it a country, not a ``micronation``. Let's call it for what it is. `
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:: I did. http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled3th1.png it still doesn't work
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== Image tagging == Look mate, what IS your problem with where images come from? They make wikipedia a better place, regardless of source (and for the record I think that ALL of my images qualify as fair use). You're actually working against everything that is good about wikipedia, systematically going after people and questioning everything they do. Who told you to do this? Why take the 'law' into your own hands? Ask yourself this: who are you protecting? You wanna play cops and robbers, go and joing the freaking police. Do something useful, rather than wasting your life on here. What is your job? Cos this ain't real life buddy, and if its your only hobby, I feel bad for you. I mean really bad. I thinks it's quite sad that your only reason for using wikipedia is to actively reverse what other people do, rather than to actively create content. I will review all the images you 'helpfully' tagged for me, but I'm getting real tired of you ducking me man. Peace out.
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:::Samir, you remove them, I'm blocked. I don't think you remember.
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== unnecessary mediation at Broken Flowers? == Chris, I'm not knowledgeable about mediation, arbitration, and such things, but it seems to me that the current mediation at Broken Flowers is unnecessary, considering that it's between an anonymous IP who keeps inserting his own private original research essay into the article (even after being told not to by the mediator) and another editor simply trying to revert it. The IP also has posted direct personal insults to the other editor on the talk page and in his edit summaries. It seems to me that this is not something that deserves mediation, it just needs an admin to nip it in the bud. Can you take a look?
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Damn right you're doing something wrong. And you still haven't answered my question: WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? Just WHO do you thing is offended by unfair images? I can see from your talk page that this is clearly a sad fixation of yours, so I'm not going to fight you - I really don't have the time, I've got better things to do, unlike you you sad little man. So delete my images if you must, but just answer me this - WHO ARE YOU BENEFITING? (Apart from yourself obviously, satisfying your own sad delusional little ego trip that you're a 'virtual policeman' - probably too pussy to be one in real life).
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I don't think you are angry I am just being respectful.
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==5 of the 6== *There's a conflation of ideas in this section. To my knowledge, Movieguide has never chosen films based on box office. Movieguide chooses films based on their moral content. Year and year again, moral movies happen to also be good perfomers at the box office (a fact which is not odd considering you can sell 6 tickets to a family for a family film, and only 1 or 2 tickets to a niche group (a teenager, etc.) for a non-family film). Additionally, this section implies that bad performers alone are calculated into the annual report to the industry. This is equally untrue. All 250-300 films released on the big-screen in a calander year are calculated into the annal report (inluding your group of '5 out of 6') and the numbers still come out on Movieguides favor.
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` == Why was the Oliver Nicholson quote removed? == There used to be a small quote from Oliver Nicholson in the Fifth Element section. Why was it removed? It was from ``Tesla's self-sustaining electrical generator``, The historical ether. Proceedings of the Tesla Centenial Symposium, 1984. It read as follows: Oliver Nicholson points out that, in contrast to the better known luminiferous aether of the 19th century, the older concept of the classical aether had three properties. Among these characteristics, the classical aether had a non-material property, was ``less than the vehicle of visible light``, and was responsible for ``generating metals`` along with fostering the development of all bodies. The original section can still be seen on other sites linked to Wikipedia, such as answers.com`
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== hey Bishonen == Hey dude, thanks for your concern r.e. the abu saga (or as I like to call it the abu graib saga!). Basically, I just overheated a little when he systematically went through all of my edits/images to see if they were 'fair use' or not. I mean God, what a sad existence the guy must have! Jesus Christ, what a loser! I'm surprised he didn't answer my questions though, and felt the need to come crawling to 'the feds' - there was me thinking he wanted to be a cop - guess he's not cut out for it! Still I'll follow your advice and stay civil - you never know when Henry Kissinger's going to drop in do you? Twat.
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` == How to Get the Wiki-Astrology Page Back Online & Honest == One of the best ways to get the Astrology Page back to good use was mentioned by Chris Brennan, who wisely thought that a Wiki-project on Astrology would help. I agree with Chris. Astrology is most likely the oldest, and best documented science in the history of humankind, leading to the invention of mathematics, medicine, and many other disciplines taken for granted by conventional science. Moreover, the history of astrology is also well-documented, even in the United States, where it must be remembered that it is an historical fact that the Founding Fathers of the U.S. not only practiced astrology, but used its principles to set, and then build Washington D.C., aligning the capital with the fixed stars in the constellation Virgo. The expert astrologers, and those with the knowledge base have worked hard, and seriously to improve the page; however, the arguments that seek to ``debase`` astrology from a POV has disrupted the Wiki-Astrology page based on the failure to not accept historical facts while promoting a ``pseudo-science`` viewpoint designed to blot out over 5,000 years of historical and scientific fact. A balance, with facts, surely can proceed, and Chris Brennan's idea of a project would help to combine diversifed views into cohesive subject matter that seeks to enlighten the mind, rather than to darken it. Welcoming views that seek to expand the knowledge base, rather than to shrink it through personal POV, is the best course. `
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:::Others vandal-botted their way into Adminnot 172. Thank you for the good news.
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Note I said that the Bordeaux wines should have lost when their 1970's were included in the tastings you mention. I also pointed out that at the time several of the best estates were in fact coasting on their reputations and not making the most of their vineyards. My issue is simply with the idea that 1970 should be considered one og the greatest years for Bordeaux, when in fact, it's surpassed by 2000, 1998, 1996, 1995, 1990, 1988, 1986, 1985, 1982. That's 9 vintages that are generally considered superior to 1970 outside of Pomerol. It's hard to imagine how the Bordeaux Council ranks 1970 above these if Pomerol is factored out. Let me reiterate, I'm not disputing the results of the Paris tasting, The Bordeaux wines have been shown inferior several times now, but given what Bordeaux was producing at the time they deserved to loose. I object to the idea that Bordeaux wines included in the tasting are representative of the best of what Bordeaux is capable of producing.
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:::::::Two problems. First, I checked the archive, and it's already been reported (no action was taken). Secondly, you're showing blatant bias by blocking me but making someone else go take action to block him. The hypocrasy of this place has absolutely no limits.
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== Nixon enemies == Hey! I guess I'm the first! I just wanted to drop in and explain why I reverted the master list of Nixon political opponents. It's presented verbatim as Colson wrote it, so the list retains its original idiosyncasies (misspellings, divisions, etc.). The businesspeople are split into a bunch of sections, as if some are afterthoughts. Anyway, I didn't want you to think I was being mean. Nice job on TOP, too! Keep up the great work! ;)
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` :::::::::Thanks for the ``love it or leave it`` speech, chief. I can contribute to Wikipedia without being your friend. `
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` (Are you talking to ?)`
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` :Can I ask a question. If the NPOV policy is interpreted as inflexibly as so many wikipedians want to (often when it suits their purposes - not making an accusation here), how can we basically say that Menzies' views are very much his own and not supported by anyone with historical authority? I'm not saying we have to say ``he is a crackpot``, but really you can't pretend to be ``neutral`` if there is clear evidence that something is wrong, flawed, unreliable, etc. `
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` ::::::: Have you ever actually done a Wikipedia mediation before?? You don't seem to be conducting it properly. 82.120.120.72 has demonstrably violated Wikipedia policy in at least two ways now and CRCulver has not, so since when do we ``compromise`` our policies and articles? Regardless of whatever ``compromise`` occurs here, I will continue to remove any further violations of WP:OR I see. `
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: OK...OK...I WILL BE THE BIGGER PERSON AND TELL EVERYONE HERE THAT I'AM TRULY SORRY FOR EVERTHING THAT I HAVE DONE! THANK YOU FOR THE UN-BLOCK AND IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN! - 01:52 PM, 23 June 2006
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`{| class=``messagebox standard-talk`` style=``text-align:center;`` |- | width=``48px`` | || This article was nominated for deletion on 2006-06-18. The result of the discussion was keep. |} `
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I'm assuming you just wanted the two redundant image uploads deleted (which does not require oversight permissions). I've deleted them for you.
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== Antisocial Personality Disorder == *C - cannot follow law *O - obligations ignored *R - remorseless *R - recklessness *U - underhandedness *P - planning deficit *T - temper
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==Hamilton-Burr duel== The Cheney/Burr shooting match is heating up again in the duel article. You took an interest last time, so I thought I might draw this to your attention.
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== Wow! == I just had a look at the work you've done on the Guantanamo Bay prisoners, and all I have to say is .... Wow! I am so very impressed with what you have done and how you've kept your cool. This is the sort of thing that gives me hope for Wikipedia. Again, good luck to you and maybe someday I'll be able to help.
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` :: Hey there, my advice is never be afraid to be WP:BOLD when you see blatant violations of WP:OR. I think you should remove the offending statements entirely, because statements like ``amazing storylines``, ``to everyone's shock``, ``which wouldn't be surprising``, etc. are all matters of opinion, not facts, and thus can never be verified or cited. `
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* According to books on Amazon.com, this was republished in 1930
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ObRoy, I believe you don't understand english. You asked me not to make any changes unless I participate in the debate in the talk page. I did - and EVERYBODY on the talk page disagrees with you and believes that the article should be known as Maria Vladimirnovna of Russia. Get over it.
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Of course, I'm not going to speak on behalf of TruthSeeker, but anyone wondering about the claims of illogical arguments that have been legitimately debunked should read the talk pages where that is not a unanimous assertion by any means. As to intellectual honesty, one shouldn't forget that Eds BS was allowed to flounder in the article for days while TS's verifiable edits were deleted immediately. I think that was the point of this sock episode, after all. As to hypocrisy, TruthSeeker was not in the same league as others, including administrators, for violating NPA/3RR/NOR/CIVIL. But no one else was cited for that.
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:::::: Apparently Timothy Usher's ambition is to create shrines in memory of my name in every talk page.I'll assist in any way I can. And I'm not an anti-semite.I love Arabs.
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You seriously should report this. God knows he'd do it against you if he had an excuse.
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** Well, technically, if they're unrelated to the article, they shouldn't be here at all. —''''
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`No they are not the KKK but they are not an unbiased source. Sorry if I upset you with the comparison. Perhaps I should have compared then to the Dem or Rep parties as being biased sources. Thanks for bringing up Pat. I just deleted ``*Controversial politicians such as: Patrick J. Buchanan and Ralph Nader.Patrick J. Buchanan on fair trade issues, Ralph Nader on fair trade., Ralph Nader Quotes about Fair Trade`` We are a work in progress and all sources are subject to continual verification. I don't like all the further reading myself, but I know no reason (Wiki-excuse?) to alter it. Perhaps you do and then we can fix it. As for being amazed, what would your reaction be to a LaRouche link? I don't care myself, but you two need to accept a little give and take here. No Larouche and no Mises. For now. When this article's only two remaining problem's are those two, I can go away and leave you two to fight. `
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== propfan MD-80 == I read that during a period of unusually high fuel costs, MD built one -80 with propfan engines (these look like turbofans, but with a propellor attached to the rear; they are known for their effeicency). After some initial hype, no orders came, and the model (I believe it was a one-off, more of a demonstrator than anything else), was scrapped. There has been intermitent talk of using propfans on civil aircraft since then, but it has not come to anyhting.
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==Vandalism spree== Your vandalism spree is pitiful. All this, after I supported your motions? Thanks a lot.
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::Sorry, let me refocus my point. I have nothing wrong with the picture of the statue, I just don't think it conveys much at all especially at the limited resolution/space on the page for the image. I would suggest either no picture or a picture of some historical text that has some sort of anti-rape law printed. Thanks for the prompt responses.
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If articles supporting Islam aren't permitted, those devoted to criticizing it shouldn't be either. If an article can represent both views (Views On Islam, maybe), that'd be something. If the 'generic' Islam/Islam-related articles do represent a positive image of Islam, then they're not NPOV and need to be corrected. The tone was supposed to be neutral. By the way, I don't see the Islam article listing every positive comment or opinion ever voiced regarding Islam, the way this article documents so many negative ones. No, I'm fairly convinced this article shouldn't be here at all. Because of the title, only negative views regarding Islam can be documented, followed perhaps by responses to those criticisms. Pope John Paul II's positive words on Islam or Muhammad wouldn't fit here, nor would those of anyone else, Muslim or Non-Muslim, who've ever expressed a positive view of Islam that wasn't a response to criticism. That makes this article POV-biased at its core. I don't particularly know Amin or Merzbow, and I'll assume good faith until I know them better. I do know several of the players who frequent pages dealing with Islam or Muslims, and I know their intentions are malevolent. Articles such as these serve as a platform for their Islam-bashing. My suggestion: perhaps it can be renamed such all views can be accomodated.
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` :Mr Ernest isn't a ``trivial cat``. If you said that to his face he would stratch your eyes out. However, upoading a pic with just a # for a name will create future problems for both of us by accident, so I can upload his pic by a different name. You should consider doing the same. `
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`==My Plea== Hello there! I feel that I need to make something clear. Those of you who moderate (or whatever the more appropriate term might be) seem to be under the impression that I am trying to force my ``P.O.V.`` about Jewell Marceau (and others) upon the readers of Wikipedia. This is definitely NOT the case! What IS true is that Jewell is unsure how to go about making changes to her profile herself and has asked for my help. She was extremely distressed to find that the year of her birth, her hometown, and her birth name had been posted here and she asked me if I could please try to fix what she considered to be a major problem. She understands that her recent legal issues have indeed already caused her legal name to be made available to the public (should they go looking for it), but her feeling is that the average Internet surfer would be far less likely to stumble across an article about her court case than they would by deliberately looking her up on Wikipedia. We in the adult industry certainly understand that ``civilians`` have very little knowledge of how frightening it can be to become ``famous`` simply for performing in adult movies. We deal with stalkers, cyberstalkers and...erm...overly-ardent fans on a daily basis. Whenever our legal names and/or hometowns are published somewhere, people with less-than-kind intentions practically jump to find our families and share whatever they (think they) know about us. I know so many women and men who have suffered greatly because of this and have also experienced it myself. (Yes, right. We made the choice to join this industry and we should be prepared for the consequences. Of course it's more complicated than that.) Many adult models really dislike Wikipedia because literally anyone with a grudge, a bad attitude, or just a cruel streak can come on here and say anything they want. I cannot even begin to tell you how many blatant even ridiculous inaccuracies I have found in the pages of Wikipedia...but I have only made changes when the involved party has asked for my help. One model/producer (who is quite computer-literate and did not ask for my help) was shocked to see that whoever had set up ``her`` Wiki page had done so with an utterly laughable amount of error in both grammar and spelling. Models I know usually try to divert attention away from ``their`` Wikipedia profiles because they never know what will show up on there next. Well, that's pretty much all I have to say and I'm sorry to have droned on so long. Please know that I definitely DO NOT want to get into any kind of a battle with ANYONE over information posted here. Wikipedia has such great potential as a source of useful and entertaining information. I just want to help/protect my friends whenever I can. Most Sincerely, Darla Crane`
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- I got my data about Dodd designing the Chat. house on 4th Street from a house rehabilitation info banner in front of the blue house at the corner of 4th & Belgravia Ct. It states that Dodd designed the house for jeweler Joseph Wyrne. I can upload a picture of the banner if you want it. My landlord was also state that Dodd is the designer of the Chat. grouping.
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must suffer for his actions}}
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== Thank You! == 24 June 2006 03:23 wrote: Hi! Thanks for bringing that matter to my attention. Can we further discuss it on my Talk Page? THANKS! )
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` :Don't worry about it; it is no big deal ). Just try and watch for it in the future. `
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:: WP:NOR applies to ALL articles. Period.
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` ::::I took it out because it's really ambiguous. Rock is such a general term, something a little more specific would be nice. Saturday, June 24, 2006, 04:36 (UTC) `
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` :: What point am I trying to prove, in your imagination? I am correcting poor writing and will continue to do so. The wording of the sentence ``Coldplay's early material was seen as reminiscent...`` is just plain bad writing, because it doesn't say WHO saw it as reminiscent, nor why we should give such credence to this person's opinion. If you want to insert opinions into articles, you have to specifically state WHOSE opinions they are and defend why they're worth pushing so prominently within an article. Take the matter to an admin if you don't believe me. `
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` :::: You may think I'm getting heated, but I'm really quite calm. There is such a thing as proper Wikipedia writing, and it is not about ``editing style`` or ``opinions`` (and you haven't been mocked for them anyway) so stop being so defensive and just put greater effort into writing a better intro for the article, okay? The article is more important than either of us. `
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` == influences, redux == Madchester, I think you really are just being stubborn at this point and edit-warring just to try to get the last word, but you're doing so at the expense of the quality of the article's writing. My sentence: ``Coldplay's early material has been compared by some reviewers to artists such as Jeff Buckley`` is literally true, yet you insist on replacing it with the vaguer and less factual ``Coldplay's early material was influenced by the likes of Jeff Buckley.`` Your latest link for citation 1 (the third you've attempted in 24 hours - why are you on such a mission to insert all these influences at the start of the article? Why is it that important?) has Martin mentioning Jeff Buckley, but Martin is not Coldplay. He does not speak for the entire band. `
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Hello buds what is Frieza's Maximum power in the series
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` ::: I cannot communicate any further with you if you must call every little thing I say to you that doesn't sit well with you a ``personal attack``. You're also talking in circles and repeating points that I have already addressed. I maintain the article in its current state is embarassingly amateurishly written and violates Wikipedia policies in more ways than one. You seriously need to cool down yourself, study WP:OR a lot more and try to get some perspective when it comes to articles about bands. The article in its current state reads like something written by young and overzealous fans for some homemade zine or something. `
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` :::Noted, but please also note that when WP:WEASEL language in an article is not cited and sourced, then it by default becomes a WP:OR matter because there's absolutely no basis for unsourced claims like ``Some people say...``, etc. `
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:::::I said no such thing. You are twisting my comments into something I obviously did not say, in effect you are the one doing the personal attacking, even as you passive-aggressively keep trying to turn it around on me. I give up attempting to communicate with you.
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` == A Worldwide Conspiracy to Discredit Thomas? == Notice how Thomas supporters don't address any of the facts outlined above in ``The Myth of Michel Thomas,`` such as National Archives records proving Thomas was a civilian assistant to the Counter Intelligence Corps instead of a true agent, or Thomas' inconsistent claims of where he was born, or his sworn deposition that he accompanied the 157th Regiment into Dachau, a detailed boast his supporters are now doing back-flips to insist never happened. Nor do his defenders answer the questions posed by the writer of ``Another Point of View.`` Instead, Thomas apologists try to make me (L.A. Times writer Roy Rivenburg) the issue, presumably to divert attention from the fact that his tales have been challenged for decades by the U.S. Justice Department's top Nazi hunter, an Oscar-winning documentary, Klaus Barbie's prosecutor, other journalists and Counter Intelligence Corps veterans as far back as the 1950s. Either there's a giant conspiracy to discredit Thomas or maybe although he presumably did some commendable work during World War II he exaggerated and fibbed about some of his record. As the old saying goes, where there's smoke, there's usually fire. It's also worth noting that before the L.A. Times article was published, Mr. Thomas and his biographer threatened legal action against the newspaper, so we made sure every fact was triple-checked, and we gave Thomas every chance to back up his claims. He couldn't. Before publication, I sent a series of detailed e-mails to his biographer and publicist. Those e-mails and his biographer's replies to our questions have never been printed by Thomas' supporters. Why? Because they would show that Thomas misrepresented how the Times article was reported and they would make clear that Thomas changed some of his wartime claims after our story came out, especially about Dachau and the Nazi Party ID cards. If those e-mails backed up Thomas' claims or proved the L.A. Times ignored evidence, you can be sure they'd be posted in full on his website and would have been introduced as evidence in his libel lawsuit. Instead, they prove just the opposite, which is why you'll never see them at michelthomas.org.`
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:Sounds like I need to be referred to Wikipedia's nearest schizophrenia expert.
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` :::FIFA's international nature means that they have a habit of mangling the English language. It's their tournament, but it's our encyclopaedia. What they call simulation, we have at diving (football). I'm just wondering if ``Round of 16`` was used before this tournament, or whether it's got something to do with the current sponsors. I've tried to look up FIFA's pages on the Internet Archive for 2002 but with no luck. `
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== Naruto! == Hi The Wretched. I appreciate your improvements to the Naruto article, thanks! ~
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:::: It was an honest misstake. Please see Wikipedia:Assume good faith. And you still haven't suggested a better choise of words. //
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` == Rambling Syd (sic!) Rumpo songs == Surely, ``Green grow your nadgers-O!`` should be ``Green grow my nadgers-O!``? There were, if my memory has not failed my tsohg completely, two different versions of this. One used the line ``Green grows my bogling fork`` ... Keep grundling your parts - happily! And keep your cordwangles straight ... PS I suspect a connexion between the ``Rumpo`` name and that of John Mortimer's immortal ``Horace Rumpole`` - but I have no proof.`
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:On second thought, go ahead and delete it Cyrus would probably welcome being free from having to maintain eternal vandal vigilance on the article.
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:: Yes, sheeple is what I meant. What affiliations do you refer to?
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HA! That is ridiculous. I've seen his posts. He actually believes what he says and that the WTC was taken down by fire and damage. What is he a mailboy?
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` No Tom, I am not saying that you intentionally added false information to the article, but I am saying that it is official US government policy to so when it is deemed beneficial. That really ``muddies the waters`` doesn't it? I'm sorry you misunderstood me Tom, I really didn't mean to cast doubt on you honesty. `
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I do think that his very valid point was made though, and unfortunately, it probably couldn't have been done any other way.
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Varg Warg is not the Swedish word for 'wolf'. Varg is.
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I disagree with you about what should be included in the article.
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If we do win, and get these evil people out of the government (and their private forces as well), then perhaps there won't be any nuclear blasts across the US and Europe. :: btw, if MONGO is really with HS, why is he on wikipedia? ::
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` The point I think was very simply about bias. I think a lot of jaws dropped around here when this happened. A couple of minor verifiable edits were denied, but everybody was eager to get on board with Ed and his ``Fuji Towers`` and ``Arcos Rincon``. Unbelievable. It's kind of sad this happened, but I know it opened a lot of eyes to what is going on in these pages, not just that you can't trust people anymore. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny as hell. `
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It's only proper I let Mongo speak for himself. Conspiracy theorists would have you believe it's related to something like or .
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(sorry, I don't mean to sound so cantankerous)
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` : ``Islamist militant`` is far more precise and less loaded then either of the terms discussed above, ``terrorist`` or ``freedom fighter````. This is a completely false statement. It is used by people and media sympathetic to the causes of terrorists. And as far as Islam being associated with the actions of Al Zarqawi, this is correct because Islam promotes violence in order to spread the religion. Read the Koran if you do not believe me. `
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I would not be surprised.
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== BUSH LIED = PEOPLE DIED == Thank you American for 4 more years of Hell!!! - 12:51 PM, 24 June 2006
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I protest. I never accused you of anything and said on the talk page that you can speak for yourself.
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said anything you never said yourself. I never
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