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2,414 | Add Boston's WEEI-590AM as the Bruins' flagship station. You probably won't
pick it up anywhere outside of Boston since it's only a 5,000 watt
station. The Bruins also have network stations in all 6 New England
states.
This could be the Bruins' last year on 'EEI which also happens to be an
all-sports radio station. The problem is that the Bruins are not too happy
being moved over to a different station(WMEX 1150AM) whenever there
is a the same-night conflict with the NBA's Boston Celtics. This happened
28 times during the course of the regular season.(The Celtics own financially
troubled WEEI). The Bruins might resurface on WHDH 850 next year. Stay
tuned. | 0 |
421 | Some comments deleted for bandwidth (God knows, we need it... :))
Ok, Roger, here's a question for you. Say you are running an expansion
team. You don't HAVE a team at the moment, but the draft is coming up. Who
are you going to pick, guys who have won the most WS rings, or guys who
COULD contribute the most to your team. Say the Reds were dumb enough to
not protect Larkin, and the Jays didn't protect Alfredo. Who would you
pick?
(I can't believe I'm getting involved in this... :)
John | 0 |
7,424 |
Hey American Hockey fans,
As a hockey fan I can sympathize with thefrustration that you feel. The
problem is that other Americans don't give a shit about hockey. They view
it as a bunch of Canadians with bad accents and missing teeth beating the
shit out of each other on a patch of ice when it is too warm now in
two-thirds of the US to see the stuff naturally. On the other hand
BASEBALL is the *gasp**swoon**sigh* "NATIONAL PASTTIME". BASEBALL is so
romanticized in the US that you are supposed to forget that other sport
exist after April 1 and before November 1. I feel that since ESPN shows 5+
BASEBALL games a week they should be able to show an OT hockey game instead
of the opening innings of a BASEBALL game. Hell, the game is going to last
2hrs 45mins, so what if you miss the first 1 1/2 hrs? And I am an Indians
fan! Show the end of what you started, then switch! But then, I'm a
hockey fan, what do I know? BASEBALL is the all mighty sport. | 0 |
3,923 |
And it is a damn good thing that she did post it since she claims to represent
people in rec.sport.hockey.
Her sole purpose in mentioning the net, as Steve Gallichio has already
pointed out, is to lend weight to her points through association with the
internet. There is no other reason to mention the internet. This is
misrepresentation and if the internet was a private corporation Alison
would be leaving herself wide open to all kinds of civil suits.
This is not a letter. It is a petition claiming to represent a large
proportion of rec.sport.hockey users, and by implication, a significant
number of internet users. 65 names can in no way be considered a
"large" proportion of rec.sport.hockey which, while we have no way of
counting actual readership, is accessible to hundreds of thousands of
people. 65 persons is no more than a fly's fart in a windstorm.
Gee. You looked up "large" in the dictionary? What next? Two syllable
words?
Let me suggest that the only place you are likely to envy the magnitude of
65 is when you are looking for ways to beef up your IQ scores.
As I said, he *might* be impressed by the size of the list of names. But
it would have to be considerably larger. But even this definition does
not account for the original context from which you lifted this sentence.
Well then what the hell is your point? You don't really know if you have
an opinion about the hockey issue but you do know that you don't like me.
Is that it?
-- | 0 |
3,652 |
It was Clint Malarchuk's neck cut by Uwe Krupp's skate. I know it happened in
Buffalo, but I can't tell you against whom.
Krupp was defending an opposing attacker charging the net.
Malarchuk became the fourth goalie (behind Hasek, Puppa and Draper) after
suffering from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. He's been playing in San Diego
for former Sabre coach Rick Dudley.
Krupp is now playing for the Islanders after the LaFontaine/Turgeon trade.
What do I win? =)
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1,523 |
Have there ever been any other no-hitters in Mariner history? | 0 |
3,216 | Hooray, I hear on TSN that the Jets have won a game, Selanne
getting a hat-trick!
Of course, here in GOD'S COUNTRY (read Ontario!) I couldn't
see that game, nor any other in the VAN-WPG series so far,
because our beloved CBC figures no one out here cares about
this series (which has looked pretty competitve so far...
On Monday and Wednesday nights, CBC could have shown the Toronto-
Detroit game, done the news, then picked up Winnipeg-Vancouver.
They didn't. Tonight? You guessed it, Toronto-Detroit, the
news (not the end of the Jets game), then Calgary-LA.
SO, if it's "Hockey Night in Canada", why can't this Ontarian see
one of the two series with two Canadian teams? Is this too much to
ask? | 0 |
5,887 | what did happen to the swiss team ? last year they reached the semi-final
and now after 3 matches no points and even no goals !!
after the 0:1 against Italy it seems they lost any hope and were
overrun 0:6 by the russian team.
now it seems that they have to work hard not to be relegated to the
B-level. does anybody know if this WC is the qualification tournement for
the olympic games '94 in Lillehammer or are some teams already
qualified for them. | 0 |
348 |
This was a concession to Mansbridge and CBC News, they argued that if you're
going to play havoc with the schedule, you should at least make sure that
Prime Time is aired as soon as possible. News got a commitment that the
post-game show would be scrapped and that the network would go to PTN within
one minute or so of the game ending.
As for the earlier comments about CBC being "Ontariocentric" frankly
the no doubleheader decison goes both ways, people in the West cant see
the Leafs and people in Central Canada can't see the Jets game. The
reason for the decision was CBC's feeling they couldn't sell advertising
for six hours of hockey in one night.
As for who wants to see news over hockey, a lot of people. CBC always gets
plenty of complaints about juggling the news schedule.
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2,940 |
I'd like to add that I think Canadian hockey fans like Don because his kind of hockey (the hockey he promotes in his TV appearances) is the kind that they think used to get played in the old 6 team NHL. So there's a kind of nostagia for the old days, before expansion, the Soviet series, Gretzky and even Bobby Orr, when guys weren't afraid to take a hit, nobody floated and defensemen played defence. Who cares that that probably never really existed, the myth is still around in Canada and all the European in
fluence on the game has diminished it in some people's eyes.
Personally, I'd like to add before I get flamed, I love the fast-paced "European" game and think Don Cherry is a bit of an idiot. I have to say that I missed him when I was living in the States, though. He is entertaining, even if you end up throwing your popcorn at the screen when he's on.
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I stand by all the misstatements that I've made.
-- Vice President Dan Quayle to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/89 | 0 |
5,062 | I looked up "might" to see why you selected that particular word,
and discovered the line ". . . to express permission, liberty,
probability, possibility . . ." It also said something about being a
"polite" alternative to "may." The presence of "probability, possibility"
can certainly be used to partially explain your word selection.
So, I'd say to all extents and purposes, "Yes, you might." In fact, you did.
(Not that you were asking *me* specifically.)
The next question is, why would a mailing list be "more" appropriate?
We don't all get mailing lists. We surely don't all get mailing lists about
the teams about which we are most enthused. So it seems to me r.s.baseball
is an appropriate place to look for information about teams one doesn't
necessarily follow day-to-day.
This is not intended as flamage, but rather is an attempted answer,
as you posed your post as a question. | 0 |
844 |
Actually, that's based on the NHL's history of 7 games. The statstical
odds of winning one straight game -- 50/50. Two straight games -- 25%. Three
straight games -- 12.5%, 4 straight games = 6.25%. The odds of the Penguins
winning 14 straight games in the playoffs was 0.0061%. Of course, this doesn't
include weighted average, but the Pens beating the Devils 3 straight (a weaker
team) along with beating the Rangers 3 straight (a much stronger team) has made
the act balanced out. That's about right. For Boston the odds of winning are
probably closer to 10% (with weighted average) since Buffalo's record isn't as
good and Boston has a stronger team. Enough about my QBA probabilities though!
It's just goes to prove ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, if you integrate that to Debbie
Gibson :-)
Moog gets about ***'s out of 5 for his performance from me. I give Blue 4
starts. Fuhr has been too tough. Buffalo caught a hot goaltender just in
time...I mean, after all, Buffalo is 3 wins, 7 losses in their last 10.
It's very frustrating to lose, and you've gotta say something. Actually
it's not about winning or losing, it is how you play the game. But when the
competition is magnified to this level, 99.9% of the people only care about
who wins or loses :-)
I think Buffalo will win in 6 -- it's not like Boston is getting blown away.
They lost 2 OT games -- with a different bounce, they could easily be up 2-1.
Good point here. Chicago's in deep trouble tonight. The 'Hawks have a bad
past history of winning the division and losing early. When they don't finish
1st, they do okay. | 0 |
5,719 | -=> Quoting Greg Rogers to All <=-
GR> Hi all,
GR> Due to living in the Bay Area, I as unable to see Vancouver's victory
GR> over the Jets last night. I know the score, but that rarely describes
GR> the game. Could someone please post a brief sonapsis (sp?) of waht
GR> happened. How well did each team play? Were the cannucks deserving of
GR> the victory?
GR> Also, could some kind soul please email me the end of season,
GR> individual player stats?
GR> Greg
GR> -- Vancouver for the cup (in a virtual reality)--
I am sorry to tell you this Greg, but in all
reality, we cannot see Vancouver winning the
cup. They have a rrally good chance to come
out of the Smythe Division, and a chance to make
it to the finals, but no one is capable this year
of beating the Penguins, they have too many
scoring threats. I would love to be proven wrong, but
I must conclude that the Pens will win cup 3 this year.
Steve
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4,120 |
I agree that Keenan is an excellent choice. Did you see Mike
Lupica's column in Sunday's news? My sentiments exactly. I
think he just may be the one to instill some hunger and fire
into their hearts next season. Either that or he's going to
be kicking alot of butt!
I'm here, but am new to this group and have been keeping fairly
quiet (you know, doing the "lurking" thing). I don't have a
sense how many Rangers fans there are on the list either. I
am a die-hard Ranger fan (I guess I have to be - I sat in the
Garden throughout the Penguins' - led by Mario's 5 goals - decimation
of them on 4/9), but am sick at the abundance of talent that has
been totally untapped, and the lack of heart displayed this
season.
Hurlbut was injured for quite a while. I'm not sure, but I
think he may have recovered in time for the playoff run, and
if so, like you, question why he wasn't used.
I believe Kocur was used, in many instances, for his intimidation
factor. Granted, he seemed to get an awful lot of ice time for
that reason alone, but you have to realize that when a team is
not doing any REAL physical intimidation (I'd like to have a nickel
for every time J.D. said 'They've got to take the body more'),
you've got to at least have some illusions ;-(
I agree and I don't know.
Sorry, I don't agree with you here. I think Joey C. did a good
job filling in when he was asked to. I can't imagine that it's
easy going from near 0 ice time to being a full timer. I don't
seem to remember him turning the puck over at the blue line too
much, or failing to clear the zone. He worked hard, and at
least didn't make any rookie mistakes. As he said himself in an
interview, he can only give what he has. and he did.
Absolutely. I think attendance at the Garden was better on the
last day of the season, than any average night for the
Islanders.
The man is awesome. In a way, I'm enjoying the playoffs more,
now that the Rangers aren't in them. I can really appreciate
all the glory Mario is getting without 'hating' him because he's
on the opposing team. He deserves it all, as far as I'm
concerned.
- Mary | 0 |
2,846 | I need the box score from the April 15 game I believe the score was 5 to 4
if anyone can provide it for me I would appreciate it.... | 0 |
2,634 |
I can't let this pass.
*If* the Islanders get past Pitts. (Assuming the Isles beat the Caps, God
Willing), them I'm sorry, the Isles will crush the Leafs.
Flame shields up.
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Of course no one asked me I always interject my opinions on matters I have no
concern over
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Go Islanders!!!!!! (3 down, 1 to go)
Go Jets for '93
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796 | Alan "All in all, it's just another" Sepinwall writes...
I agree. However, I have to object. Growing up in the early
1980's and playing 2 years of Mario Mendoza-esque Little League, I was
told that since my hitting, well, sucked, I would do best to either
"Walk, or take one in the face for the team". I did both. And, my
Yankee fan father would say, "Bat like Oscar Gamble". So I did. And my
career OBP was about .550.
Not only was Oscar a fun guy to watch, but he had some pretty
cool baseball cards and helped me become one of the best little league
players in history.
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5,297 |
A "reasonable" umpire would have recognized that Ron Gant was
disturbed with the call. A "reasonable" umpire would have realized that
there was a 1-run game in progress, with two outs in the ninth. What
Ron Gant did was try to regain his composure. What a "normal" baseball
player would have done would have been to get into a heated argument
with the umpire, and since you can't argue balls and strikes, he would
have been ejected from the game. Ron Gant, by trying to avoid such a
conflict, was penalized for showing some restraint.
Incidentally, a "reasonable" home plate umpire would not have been
so resistant to seeking the appeal to the first base umpire, as Gant
requested. If the home plate umpire had appealed to first, the first base
umpire could have wrung up the strike, and Gant would not have been so
upset. If the call had been a ball, and the catcher had requested the
appeal, it is likely the home plate umpire would have asked for the help.
Finally, the entire game was pretty much a mockery of the so-called
efforts to "speed up the game." The game was played very quickly, it was
just at 2 hours when the stuff happened in the ninth, and the only delays
in the entire game had been *the result* of actions by the umpires (other than
Deion having to clean garbage off the field).
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3,059 |
Gerald, look at what happened to the Stars; they are off to Dallas.
Gerald, the Alberta election is slated fou 7 June, unless something RE?ALLY goes
wrong this time!! Pocklington could end up being THE embarassment of Klein
if he goes ahead with his 'ultimatum'.
Gerald, people still have an axe to grind with this guy. I CANNOT see him staying for long.
But the people in Edmonton won't budge, trust me on this one.
Northlands won't budge ccording to one of the board members, Bruce Campbell.
I haven't heard anything, BUT attendance at the Coliseum was the lowest this
year. HINT!!HINT!! Remeber what I said about a personal vendetta?
Gerald, don't blame Sather. This battle between the peole and Pocklington
started in 1986 and got WORST when Pocklington sold Gretzky.
There were days when you can shake the hand of Pocklington when he was
respectalbe( I use to do so in 1982 - 1983 season) , but those days are GOE!!
BTW, when following up, please delete name of posting writer. | 0 |
614 | They could put on a Quebec-Montreal game.
Talk a bout areivalry!
opps rivalry..
roland | 0 |
6,346 |
I didn't say that pitcher's fear of throwing strikes to guys like
McGwire, Bonds, and Frank Thomas was rational.
I just said that it exists.
I don't know Alex Cole's batting style at all. Some questions:
How tall is he?
Does he go into a crouch like Rickey Hederson/Pete Rose?
Does he foul off a lot of pitches like Brett Butler?
Does he take 1 or 2 strikes in each at bat?
It could be the Cole has a good batting "eye".
Look above, I said that *many* high OBP guys draw their walks because
pitchers are afraid to throw a strike to them, not "all" high OBP guys. | 0 |
6,291 |
Exactly my point. If you'd watch games more closely, you'd see a lot
of goons going after him. Ulf is one of the main reasons why less physical
players for Pgh are left alone. Ulf plays rough hockey, but only when
other players are putting the rush on Mario or Jagr. If you want to say anyone
on the Penguins is a cheap shot or a goon, say it's Jennings or Caufield. Don'tslander a good defenseman because your favorite players can't beat the Pens
even when they take dives (like Gartner) to try for the cheap penalties.
Hey, that's fine! If a player does something stupid, he should be penalized
including Ulf. Or Mario (you're not likely to see that happen) or anyone else for that matter. It's pointless to say any one person is a cheap-shot goon, because you'll see EVERYONE take a cheap shot now and then, especially if you'resomeone who is shadowed as much as Ulf is.
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5,752 |
And Dino Ciccarelli and Ray Sheppard and so on and so on.....
: ) | 0 |
3,364 |
Actually, Keith Hernandez is the best.
-Sean
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1,009 | NHL PLAYOFF RESULTS FOR 4/21/93.
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CONFERENCE SEMI-FINALS BEST OF SEVEN
PATRICK ADAMS NORRIS SMYTHE
NJ BUF (leads 2-0) STL (leads 2-0) WIN
PIT (leads 2-0) BOS CHI VAN (leads 2-0)
NYI (tied 1-1) MON TOR LA (tied 1-1)
WAS QUE (leads 2-0) DET (leads 2-0) CAL
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Toronto Maple Leafs 0 1 1 - 2
Detroit Red Wings (leads series 2-0) 1 3 2 - 6
1st period: DET, Lidstrom 1 - (Yzerman, Coffey) (pp) 4:06
2nd period: DET, Fedorov 1 - (sh) 0:43
DET, Yzerman 2 - (Coffey, Chiasson) (pp) 8:06
DET, Yzerman 3 - (Coffey, Sheppard) 17:40
TOR, Mironov 1 - (Gill, Gilmour) 19:10
3rd period: TOR, Gilmour 2 - (Anderson) 4:32
DET, Ysebaert 1 - (Kozlov) 5:51
DET, Drake 1 - (Kozlov, Kennedy) 18:33
Powerplay Opportunities-Maple Leafs 1 of 8
Red Wings 2 of 7
Shots on Goal- Maple Leafs 10 7 13 - 30
Red Wings 16 11 3 - 30
Toronto Maple Leafs--Potvin (0-2) (30 shots - 24 saves)
Detroit Red Wings--Cheveldae (2-0) (30 shots - 28 saves)
ATT-19,875
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St. Louis Blues (leads series 2-0) 2 0 0 - 2
Chicago BlackHawks 0 0 0 - 0
1st period: STL, Hull 2 - (Brown, Janney) (pp) 7:38
STL, Lowry 1 - (sh) 13:53
2nd period: NONE
3rd period: NONE
Powerplay Opportunities-Blues 1 of 5
BlackHawks 0 of 6
Shots on Goal- Blues 9 3 5 - 17
BlackHawks 16 19 12 - 47
St. Louis Blues--Joseph (2-0) (47 shots - 45 saves)
Chicago BlackHawks--Belfour (0-2) (17 shots - 15 saves)
ATT-17,339
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Los Angeles Kings (series tied 1-1) 1 0 3 - 4
Calgary Flames 0 5 4 - 9
1st period: LAK, Carson 3 - 1:11
2nd period: CAL, Otto 1 - (Roberts, MacInnis) 5:02
CAL, Yawney 2 - (Dahlquist, Ranheim) 8:02
CAL, Reichel 1 - (Fleury) (pp) 10:52
CAL, Nieuwendyk 1 - (Roberts, Musil) 13:47
CAL, Otto 2 - (Dahl) (sh) 19:37
3rd period: LAK, Carson 4 - (Granato, Shuchuk) 5:34
CAL, Reichel 2 - (Fleury, MacInnis) (pp) 7:23
CAL, Paslawski 1 - (Roberts, Nieuwendyk) 8:14
CAL, Fleury 1 - (MacInnis, Nieuwendyk) (pp) 10:37
LAK, Rychel 1 - (Blake) 11:56
LAK, Kurri 1 - (Gretzky, Zhitnik) (pp) 15:22
CAL, Suter 2 - (Skrudland, Berube) 19:15
Powerplay Opportunities-Kings 1 of 7
Flames 3 of 6
SHots on Goal- Kings 14 8 9 - 31
Flames 9 16 15 - 40
Los Angeles Kings--Hrudey (1-1) (40 shots - 31 saves)
Calgary Flames--Vernon (1-1) (31 shots - 27 saves)
ATT-19,477
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Winnipeg Jets 0 1 1 - 2
Vancouver Canucks (leads series 2-0) 1 1 1 - 3
1st period: VAN, Ronning 2 - (Courtnall, Linden) 11:37
2nd period: VAN, Courtnall 1 - 6:05
WIN, Domi 1 - (King, Barnes) 6:48
3rd period: WIN, Numminen 1 - (Housley, Selanne) (pp) 0:30
VAN, Bure 1 - (Adams, Craven) 4:01
Powerplay Opportunities-Jets 1 of 4
Canucks 0 of 3
Shots on Goal- Jets 6 10 6 - 22
Canucks 14 9 9 - 32
Winnipeg Jets--Essensa (0-2) (32 shots - 29 saves)
Vancouver Canucks--McLean (2-0) (22 shots - 20 saves)
ATT-15,729
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5,705 |
I think there is another formula for ERA. I heard something about it last
year. Im not sure what it is, but im gonna give it a stab. It allows for
a pitcher to pitch more than 9 innings at a time and not benefit, cuz it
uses outs recorded instead of innings pitched...
ERA = (ER*27)/outs recorded
Like i said, im not sure this is exactly it, but im pretty sure they changed
it to something of the sort.
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2,864 | Wow, this guy seems to be out to prove something to his old team, Boston.
Which Sweeney you ask...well, of course Bob Sweeney, the one that Boston
let Buffalo get a hold of (they still have 2 Sweeneys which makes things
slightly confusing). Game winner in OT in game 1, and another
BIG goal (seconds after Fuhr made 3 point blank saves -> this is why
Grant has 5 rings!!!) to put Buffalo ahead in the 3rd. Yes, Neely countered
a minute later, but hadn't this course of Buffalo going ahead after being
tied and shutting down another few great scoring opportunities, I
think Boston would have notched their first win of the series.
Well, the Sabres haven't made it to the end of this series yet, but
I certainly feel they've got Boston right were they want them...actually,
they've got them in a position that neither Buffalo nor Boston felt
that would come about. One more astronomical game by Fuhr, a few more
heroics by the rest of the team (this is a team sport afterall) and I
think Borque, Neely, Jouneau (sp?), and Company are gonna be swinging
a new stick (Weather is perfect for golf season) real soon. I'm not
gonna waiger anything on this, because I've seen some really strange
things happen in both pro and college hockey.
Talking about golf...was that a hockey swing, golf swing or baseball
swing that Hawerchuck used in the last shot of the game that Khmylev
deflected in for the BIG ONE? The whole OT (all 1 minute of it!) was a
tesiment to Buffalo's ability to really be persistent and grind it out
in the end (something they weren't necessarily in the regular season). The
Sabres pushed hard and forced Borque to blatently take down Bodger in
the opening seconds. I don't normally like penalties being called in
such ultra-critical points, but this was BLATENT. Finally, the Sabres
won a faceoff (they weren't that hot in this dept the rest of the game)
when LaFontaine scooped at the puck 3 times. When Hawerchuck took his
shot (quite a boomer, but Blue stopped this one) he took a few steps
over to get his own rebound and slapped at it again, without setting
it up. I didn't realize it went in until the announcer started screaming,
"They score, THEY SCORE!!!". The best was seeing LaFontaine jumping
up and down, skating a little bit, jumping some more, and then skating
over to Brad May who he jumped on. | 0 |
6,643 | I remember a post from last year indicating that a "pitch clock" was tried
in one of the minor leagues some time back and did not work. I don't remember
why they said that it did not work. Anyone remember this?
Jody McDonnel on WIP in Phil. has been saying that a pitch clock was
inevitable. How would a pitch clock work on throws to first?
Another pair of suggestions:
1. Remove the Balk rule. It is the runners responsibility to stay "safe"
no matter what the pitcher does.
2. If a pitcher throws to an occupied base more than X time (X = 3 to 5)
without successfully picking off the runner, the runner advances a base
as if walked.
The no-balk seems to give the pitcher the advantage. The base-walk allows
the runner to "challenge" pitcher to throw over to the base.
I too, find myself surfing when I know that it will be enough time between
each pitch to allow the batter to adjust his "jewlery".
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2,748 |
But maybe his wife was :-)
I don't claim to know whether it's true or not, but a couple different
people (totally unrelated) have said Harry was 'relieved' of his duties
because he had more than platonic relations with Augie Busch's wife.
Judgement is left to the individual, cuz I sure don't claim to be an
impeachable source in this case.
| 0 |
5,814 | I am curious to known if there are any professional sports teams whose
games are regularly broadcast on an FM station. The only one I am
aware of is WYSP in Philadelphia who carries the Eagles' games.
If you respond to me I will summarize for the list. | 0 |
4,347 |
Yeah, it's the second one. And I believe that price too. I've been trying
to get a good look at it on the Bruin-Sabre telecasts, and wow! does it ever
look good. Whoever did that paint job knew what they were doing. And given
Fuhr's play since he got it, I bet the Bruins are wishing he didn't have it:)
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3,836 |
I don't "notice" refs and linesmen until the playoffs come around, and
yes I have to agree that Stewart called the *two* worst games I've seen
so far (Mtl-Quebec game 1, and last nights Toronto-Detroit game).
What's the scoop on this guy? Is he the latest incarnation of
KERRY FRASER??? Just because you are boneheadedly stubborn doesn't
make you a good ref!!! Making the right call does...
My votes for:
Best Ref: Van Hellemond
Most Improved: Koharski
Worst: Paul Stewart
(Oops, I don't really want to start a best/worst ref thread so don't
follow up ;-) | 0 |
181 | To really speed up the game umps need to START CALLING STRIKES the way
they used to. I'm talking about making the strike zone start at the
knees and go up to the top of the letters. Forget this "the strike zone
is in the general area of the groin". A lot less 3-and-2 counts and a
quicker game.
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6,174 |
Not totally true. For the past year or two, the AP has been getting box
scores from STATS, Inc. The AP representative in the press box is actually
a STATS reporter ($25 dollars a game, but free parking. And anybody can
do it.) The box is downloaded to STATS in Chicago, some quick error
checking is done, and then STATS sends it to the AP. I'm not sure where
the appreveiations come in hear. I don't think it is at STATS's. It may
just be a space correction by the AP sports editor that day.
While I'm mentioning STATS reporters, they are always looking for new
people. Especially if you live in Cleveland or Pittsburgh, you're road
to getting into the press box may be real short. For more info, call
STATS (708) 676-3322, and ask about the reporter network. It's a fun
way to get paid for watching baseball games.
End of public service announcement.
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4,366 |
According to the recent TSN report Peter Puck is not paying any interest
on the Treasury Branch loans. That's a lot of green.
Again, according to TSN, virtually everything that Peter Puck has already
has liens against it. Of course we can't really be sure of this.
The Oiler rationale regarding the renegotiation of player contracts is
that a deal is a deal. Sather has spouted this repeatedly. Pocklinton
has a contract with Northlands until 1999. A deal is a deal. Perhaps
if he included the income he has received from his sale of assets (players
such as Gretzky) and the income he has received in expansion fees with
his revenues he wouldn't be losing money. He has admitted pulling this
money out of the Oiler franchise to put into his other businesses.
I think that Pocklington has received ample provincial subsidization.
I can't really blame him for going after municipal subsidization but
he is certainly not entitled to it. Pocklington has "sucked" revenue
out of the Oilers in order to prop up his failing business interests.
Pocklington is not to be trusted. I doubt very much that any Oiler
team will ever again make the playoffs under Pocklington's stewardship.
As soon as a player shows himself to be a competent NHL'er and expects
to be paid accordingly he is shipped off for younger players and or
draft picks.
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5,668 |
You haven't been facing major league pitching.
Maybe more... you have to be good at the plate, and most
STATS did a little study in the 1993 Scoreboard book entitled "Can
you hit sacrifice flies on purpose?" A summary of the findings:
Over the 5 year period, sac-fly type fly balls were produced 17.6
percent of the time in situations where a sac fly was useful, and
17.7 percent of the time when a sac fly wasn't useful.
They looked at the leaders in sac flies, and found that the leaders
in sac flies - in other words, the guys you would expect to be good
at it it - hit sac fly type fly balls only 3% more often when they
needed to - a difference way too small to be the result of a skill.
Essentially, the players who hit a lot of sac flies seem to do
so because they hit hit sac fly type flies often, with and without
a runner on third.
STATS concludes "So it appears conclusive that hitters cannot hit
sacrifice flies on purpose - even if they practice in the bATTING
cage." | 0 |
6,374 | 210493
Italy-Sweden 2-6 (0-1,1-2,1-3)
W D L
Canada 2 2 0 0 6-1 4
Sweden 3 2 0 1 8-6 4
Russia 2 1 1 0 6-4 3
Italy 3 1 1 1 5-8 3 | 0 |
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Actually it was in the third period, his return did bring a spark to the
crowd, and to the players, who played awesome defense in the third.
You forgot about Gretzky. If any of these guys start scoring, the Kings
will be unstoppable, if they continue the great defensive work as well.
Stauber will be in net on Tuesday. Hopefully he will provide another
stellar performance and earn the name Robb "Stopper" Stauber.
I believe this is how they are...I know it is Gretzky and Sandstrom, but he
has been putting a number of people on left. Also the Carson, Robataille
Kurri line once ignited, will light the fire of the other lines.
(Hopefully!)
It is evident that the scoring drought is getting to Luc, after his slight
breakaway in the third (I think) he was steamed on the bench, this emotion
might help him break his streak. Also, I have noticed Blake has had a few
really good chances to score, but has fanned, or shot wide. Is the injury
still affecting him?
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The last year before Bryan Murray took over, the Wings did not make the
playoffs. While they had been considered a possible contender when Jacques
Demers first arrived, in his last two years they were, respectively,
embarrassed in the first round by Chicago, and then failed to make the
playoffs (at a time, a might add, when there were only five teams in the
Norris).
It's true that Vancouver did not make the playoffs for many a year before
Quinn came, but in those years the Smythe Division was a lot--I mean *a lot*--
tougher division than the Norris, also known as the "Snorris", division.
Vancouver had to play Edmonton and Calgary, both very legitimate Stanley
Cup contenders, eight times a year, while Detroit got to play such
powerhouses as Toronto and Minnesota. Now, Edmonton is hardly even a force
in the league, and the Smythe even has the mighty San Jose sharks, while
over this same period of time in which Vancouver was improving, so was
everybody in the Norris (except St. Louis). Detroit had to improve just
to keep up with the competition in their division. They had to improve *a
lot* to get better than their competition in the Norris.
Bryan Murray inherited a team with very little talent. For really good
players, they had Yzerman, Burr, and Probert, and that was about it. (And
no doubt some will dispute whether Burr and Probert were that good). The
rest were either very green rookies or washed up veterans. The only reason
they got as far as they did in the years before Murray came was due to the
coaching of Demers, who, at least at first, got every last ounce of effort
possible out of his team. Then, even his coaching began to degrade.
There are a number of reasons why Detroit wasn't in as bad a shape standings
wise when Murray took over as Vanc. was when Quinn took over, some of which
I outlined above, but Murray did not have any better personnel to work with
at the outset than did Quinn, with the exception of Yzerman. And one player
cannot alone make a team into a Stanley Cup contender, as I'm sure everyone
reading this will agree.
We'll be able to see better which team is really the most improved when they
face each other in the conference final (assuming they don't get knocked out,
like last year).
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1,976 |
Wow! You really know how to hurt a guy. Guess I shouldn't bother watching
any more games. It's already been decided. :^)
luigi
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724 | It's gotta be an HBP.
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2,208 | 0 | |
7,114 | Im trying to find a site that has UPDATED(daily) stats more the
National league. I'll take both leagues but I'm really interested in the
National league. | 0 |
3,743 | ST> as for more captain trivia, the next Edmonton
ST> catain was Lee Fogilin who was later traded to
ST> the Buffalo Sabres, after him was Wayne Gretzky
ST> who w traded to L A, then came Kevin Low who
ST> nly this year was traded to the N Y Rangers
Wasn't Mark Messier Captain of the oilers before Kevin Lowe?
But, of course, he was traded as well -- so your point of every
Oilers captain being traded is still true. | 0 |
2,415 | : Hi there,
:
: I'm german and I have been into this MLB stuff since almost one year now.
: There are many problems occuring for me. One of them is the ERA statistic for
: pitchers. What does it say ??
ERA indicates the average number of earned runs attributed to a pitcher per
nine inning game. Thus, if a pitcher pitched 3 innings and gave up 1 earned
run, his 9 inning equivelent perfomance would be 3 earned runs, thus his ERA
is 3.00. To compute the ERA you simply take the number of earned runs divided
by the innings pitched and then multiple the result by 9.
ERA = (ER/IP) * 9
An earned run is run that is given up by the pitcher that is not attributed
to a fielding error. More specifically, if an error occurs that represented
the third out, all runs scored after the error are considered UNEARNED runs.
Earned runs are also runs scored as a result of players who were left on base
when the pitcher exited the game. Here are some examples:
If there are two outs in an inning and there are men on base. If
an error occurs that represents the third out, all of the runs after
this error and NOT counted as earned runs.
If a pitcher issues some base on balls (walks), and leaves the game
before the inning is completed, he is responsible for the people who
were left on base. If the those runners who were left on base score,
and the score was not a result of an error, those eraned runs are
attributed to the pitcher who left the game.
I hope this explains things for you. | 0 |
3,712 |
And you can bet that I wouldn't be the only one not belonging to the
moderated group if it was moderated by an anally-retentive little
dullard like yourself.
I hardly need you to presume to lecture me on how to communicate my points
of view. This "posting" that you have made is the second on the subject of
the NHL letter and you have yet to communicate your opinion on the matter.
Instead you content yourself with flaming me.
Result:
Moronic little busy bodies like yourself take advantage of a perceived
opportunity to post rules for others to live by.
Well if using it "against" me means you are going to post something of
significance then by all means go ahead. I insist. Otherwise why don't
you just go back to sleep or do whatever it is that you do when you are
all by yourself...
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7,439 |
Well I was watching Hockey Hotline last night and Stan said that the
station (KBL) had been recieving calls all day concerning this subject.
And the verdict was that almost exclusively NOBODY wanted that load
mouth, know it all blow hard, former Bruin whiner, Ulf Hating, scum
sucking, Pr*ck of missery in Pittsburgh on a permanent basis. That's
not exactly what Stan said; I did do a bit of interpriting.
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922 |
I would be veru interested also, if there is one.
Could someone please send me some info? | 0 |
6,239 | Who holds the record for most career strikeouts while playing for one team?
Who holds the record for most career strikeouts for the Rangers?
(Hint: Nolan Ryan isn't either)
What two pitchers have over 100 career saves for two different teams?
Who is the only player to hit 300 or more career home runs and steal 300 or
more career bases for the same team?
No fair peeking at your baseball stats....
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6,476 | Why would Pollin want to move the Caps, because I think he
owns the Cap Centre. I know they don't sell out all of their
games, but they draw a lot more than the Bullets. If you
had the situation that Abe had, would you move if you were
guaranteed that anyone who went to the games would have to
park at the stadium, because there has been nothing within
a half mile, until the recent construction in
the area.
Can they win a game in OT again.
Rich | 0 |
4,115 |
The Phillies finished third 2 years ago.
The Phillies' opponents haven't hit much better | 0 |
4,590 |
And Fleury is no enforcer. An agitator for sure, but Fleury never has and never
will have a fight, which seems to be what you're saying Wood is.
The closest Fleury ever came to fighting was a game two years ago against
Los Angeles. There was a scrum and McSorley pinched Fleury's head under his
arm. Fleury dropped his gloves and gave McSorley a weak shot to the side of the
head. McSorely, knowing a good thing when he saw one, popped Fleury one right
between the eyes. End of fight. Fleury got ten stitches for his trouble.
The only player I can ever see Theo fighting is Cliff Ronning, and even then
he'd be giving up two inches and 10-15 pounds. :-) | 0 |
558 | Is it just me or is the camera work on some of these games really sad?? I
can't remember how many times during the Penguins-Devils game they showed some
guy (without the puck) being checked in the corner while the puck was being
fired on goal. In fact, I think they even missed one goal completely because
they were showing two guys holding each other in the corner.
Now the last time I watched a football game, they didn't show the lineman going
at it while the running back turned the corner for a touchdown . . . .
Is it just me?? | 0 |
2,050 | I don't actually have the answer to this one.
Bosio, after walking the first two batters, retired 27-straight for a
"back-end" perfect game.
How many other games - including extra inning games - have seen a pitcher
retire 27 straight, excluding official perfect games?
The only other instance of this I know about for sure is the famous Ernie
Shore game, which counts as a perfect one according to those goons in
Cooperstown. Shore came into the game when Boston Pitcher Babe Ruth got
thrown out for arguing over the first-batter walk; Shore picked him off and
retired 26 straight after that.
Matt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK? | 0 |
6,672 | A few weeks ago I posted about the Phillies team personalities. Did anyone see the ESPN feature on the Phils on Monday Night. John Kruk had a great line. He was talking about people on the team always playing and not sitting out because of a minor injury. He said if they do they know we'll kick their ass. The
time I saw in was in the afternoon and it was not bleeped. When I saw it at
they bleeped "ass." Mitch Williams talked about the team being a bunch of
throwaways from other teams, and that is why they are so close. Kruk said that
they all get along this year. Last year, he said, they hated the pitchers. I
assume he was joking, but he always keeps a straight face when he talks. Oh,
What a team!!!!!
Rob Koffler
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3,334 | : >Showing a meaningless (relatively) baseball game over the overtime of
: >game that was tied up with less than 3 seconds left on the clock? | 0 |
418 |
ESPN must have some very poor marketing people. They are only concerned with
featuring players (i.e. Mario) than featuring good competitive hockey.
I've heard that this is because most of their market is East Coast and hence
would prefer the Wales stuff. Also, don't expect Canadian teams on ESPN. | 0 |
5,829 |
Lots of debate about the virtues of Bryan Murray vs Pat Quinn as a GM
deleted. Randy Graca seems to think Murray is the best GM in the league.
I think Quinn is one of several who are better.
When Quinn took over Vancouver- several years ago, NOT LAST YEAR, they
regularily missed the playoffs. I can't recall if they missed the playoffs
the year before his hiring but they probably did. Quinn has improved the
team from non-playoff calibre to a serious contender.
When Murray took over in Detroit, the were about a .500 team that was a
contender to win the Norris division and possibly even a Stanley Cup
contender.
So Quinn has improved his team more than Murray has since taking over as a GM.
Quinn is one example of a better GM than Murray. | 0 |
5,250 | Hi all,
I got tired of waiting for a mailing list so I am going to make one....
just send me your complete e-mail address on your message and I'll send
you a confirmation and the Yankee mailing list address
-john | 0 |
4,717 |
Absolute nonsense. The decision that was made was Pocklington's. He chose
20 mill over Gretzky. If Gretzky wasn't upset about not being able to win
a cup in LA then I submit that he wasn't worth the 20 mill.
How do you know what he thinks (or thought)? The only "thought" that I
can see that you have revealed is your own. You don't like Gretzky.
Big deal.
The real purpose of diving is not merely an attempt to draw a penalty. What
the player is trying to do is make the checkers keep their distance so the
ref won't be fooled. I can't imagine why anyone would expect someone like
Lemieux to change his game. Why don't you pick on 1 dimensional over-rated
type like Hull and Salami.
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7,306 |
If anyone knows of such a site could they please send it to me also.
thanks | 0 |
85 |
Whoa. What you are effectively doing is implying that if a player plays
really well, he 'stores up' mistakes that can be used at a later time. Ths
is not so. Roy is the 'villain', as you so succinctly put it, because he
allowed a very cheap goal. If you think Roy outplayed Hextall, perhaps you
should get a tape of the game and watch the first 7-8 minutes of the third
period. NHL goaltenders _make_ some great saves. If they did not, they
would not be in the NHL in the first place. I do not expect any particular
goalie to be able to make the great saves all of the time, even though they
are occasionally required. However, when it comes to a routine shot like
Sakic's, especially at such a crucial time in a game, I don't think there
are any legitimate excuses.
I am not arguing that Hextall was brilliant. I am arguing is that a
relatively weak wrist shot from the outside of the circle shold not result
in a goal.
In a one-goal game with less than a minute to go there is no such thing as
'just the 1 goal'. I have not defended Dionne for taking the penalty
either...in fact I think it was a boneheaded move. But it led to _one_ goal
only, and Montreal had a _two_ goal lead. My main concern is the second
goal.
What you say about the skaters is absolutely true. But realize that the
game was effectively *won*. You could watch any hockey game (in fact, you
could watch any sporting event period) and spend hours discussing the 'what
if's' w.r.t. missed opportunities. They are not important when the final
result is decided. If I get the time soon, I'll watch the game again and
email you a list of lucky Montreal bounces and a list of Quebec offensive
screwups. Montreal was _leading_ with a minute to go. The goalie
is the last line of defence, and I will grant that extra attention is
focussed on him, sometimes without justification. But Roy gave up a *lousy*
goal, and a team cannot afford such a goal.
WHO CARES? Of what value is it to justify one lousy play with a totally
unrelated lousy play? I could do a Hextall critique if you'd like. But if
you're going to assess his performance, keep in mind that he made the key
saves at the key times.
For the record, I did not say that Roy was not one of the top goaltenders in
the league. In fact, I agree that he is.
I assume you are referring to me. However, I have pointed out that I think
the loss can be blamed on Roy. I have not said he sucks, nor do I think I've
made any other 'derogatory comments'. If you regard objective
(and informed, FYI) observations as derogatory, I really can't help you.
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2,987 | I am finding the volume of stuff on rec.sport.baseball
overwhelming -- ca. 200 posts/day. An effect of this is
that a backlog builds up, and many posts get dumped from
my system. I could probably fix that--but don't have the
time to read them all in any event. My guess is that mine
is a common problem. I have some ideas that would help:
1. Each person generally post no more than one article/day.
2. Limit the extent to which previous posts are reproduced
in posts.
3. Don't post mindless `woofs,' or `anti-woofs,' e.g. "The
Jays are best!" or "The Jays suck."
4. Don't respond to mindless posts, e.g. "Jack Morris is
a better pitcher than Frank Viola because he's won a
World Series." I know that you can use the `n' key to
get by these posts, but they bump interesting posts from
my disk.
5. use the goddamn shift key etc it makes your posts easier
to read | 0 |
3,268 |
Baltimore Baseblazers? Where the hell did you come up with that? The
Orioles are not a base-stealing team except for Anderson. Besides we would
never call them anything but the Baltimore Orioles. Why? The ballpark has
all these orthologically (spelling error?) correct BALTIMORE ORIOLES all
over the place. I bet you thought the bird is just an oriole. It's not. The
bird was named after Lord Baltimore when Maryland was founded. They're
called Baltimore Orioles. But the post is just a joke so why do I care what
a non-O's fan thinks of us? But I still wonder where Baseblazers came from.
San Diego Padres, now there's a name that needs to be changed. How is padre
being used? As "Father" ie priest or "father" ie parents? | 0 |
1,424 |
: Unfortunately, that is the way the league is heading... You can't fight,
: so the only way to retaliate against someone is with a cheap shot when
: the ref isn't looking. Ulf has brought this to a high level... Players
: stuck in the past (like Neely) who prefer fights to cheap shots
: are at a disadvantage in the new system.
: Lets face it, A cheap shot (like high sticking) is a very effective
: method... It is easier to hide from the refs, has a better chance of
: causing injury, and you can draw people into fights that way. I don't
: like it, but that's the way the league is going.
: By the way, there was a rather good hit by Ulf in the last Penguin-Devil
: game. Managed to hit the NJ player in the face with a stick. (Must have been a
: legal hit... After all, Ulf is a clean player and is allowed to do
: things like that.)
Are there any ex NHL hockey players out there who might care to
comment on this and end this ridiculously long discussion?
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5,335 | Team Canada defeated Russia 3-1 to finish the priliminary
round unbeaten at 5-0. Scoring for the Canadians were Kevin Dineen of
the Flyers, Eric Lindros also of the Flyers and Paul Cariya of the
Maine Black Bears. Cariya has put on quite a show at the Worlds. He is
sure to be drafted in the top 3 this summer at the NHL entry draft.
Canada defeated Italy 11-2 and Austria 11-0 before meeting the
Russians on Sunday. The Canadians now face Finland in the Quarter -
finals on Tuesday.
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6,614 | (Ali's letter deleted for brevity)
Roger,
Your responses might just exclude you from sharing your opinions,
then. You see, the same rights Ali has to mail her letter to the NHL
are the same ones that let you post replies that mow her down like
wheat at harvest-time. She never said she represented the entire
internet or the entire group rec.sport.hockey. She has every right to
state her opinion along with those of the fifty or sixty or
hundred-odd folk who've agreed to allow her to list their names on the
bottom of it. You may not agree with it. Fine. I really don't care
enough about the name change to care. Your name isn't attached to it,
so why moan and complain? If you felt her words were leading, well,
you're free to feel that way and take exception, but manners never
hurt. I personally disagree and feel her generalizations were fine
(I have the right to think and say that, too). Ali's under no
compunction to change a single word. Now, while you're free to
disagree with every word she wrote, to tear apart her character is
uncalled for. I'm posting this as a form of public reprimand. If you
tear down Ali's integrity and character publicly, you'll get chastised
publicly in return. Would it have been so hard to say, "Ali, please
be a bit more specific in your description, the way I've read it
indicates you're stating my view also, and that's simply not true.
I'd really like to see a disclaimer noting that you don't mean the
entire internet or the entire r.s.h. group attached to it, despite
your intent to list names at the bottom. Thanks. Cordially as
always," &c. Calling her a moron and an asshole just reduces the
weight of your words and the opinions of their author in the eyes of
myself, and possibly others.
Oh, and Ali, nice to see someone standing up for something, even if
it's not something I personally advocate. :-)
| 0 |
3,424 |
Lori, the regular Penguins poster here on rec.sport.hockey, indicated to me
via e-mail that on the nights that Pirates baseball and Penguins playoff
games coincide, the Pens will be covered on WDVE FM (102.5). | 0 |
3,840 | NHL PLAYOFF RESULTS FOR GAMES PLAYED 23 APRIL 1993:
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CONFERENCE SEMI-FINALS BEST OF SEVEN
PATRICK ADAMS NORRIS SMYTHE
NJ BUF (leads 3-0) STL (leads 3-0) WIN
PIT (leads 3-0) BOS CHI VAN (leads 2-1)
NYI (leads 2-1) MON TOR LA
WAS QUE (leads 2-1) DET (leads 2-1) CAL (tied 2-1)
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Detroit Red Wings (lead series 2-1) 0 1 1 - 2
Toronto Maple Leafs 2 0 2 - 4
Dave Andreychuk scored his first two playoff goals for Toronto and Felix
Potvin stopped 34 of 36 Red Wing shots as the Maple Leafs won their first
win in the series.
First period-- 1, Toronto, Andreychuk 1 (Foligno,Gilmour), 4:21. 2, Toronto,
Andreychuk 2 (Gilmour), 7:37.
Second period-- 3, Detroit, Fedorov 2 (Coffey,Sheppard), 1:20 (pp).
Third period-- 4, Toronto, Clark 1 (Gilmour,Mironov), 4:44 (pp). 5, Toronto,
Pearson 1 (Clark,Cullen), 9:32. 6, Detroit, Chiasson 2 (Konstantinov,
Fedorov), 14:14.
Shots on goal-- Detroit 9-19-8--36. Toronto 13-8-12--33. Power-play
opportunities-- Detroit 1 of 5; Toronto 1 of 8. Goalies-- Detroit,
Cheveldae, 2-1 (33 shots-29 saves). Toronto, Potvin, 1-2 (36-34).
A--15,720.
Referee-- Mark Faucette. Linesmen-- Kevin Collins, Brian Murphy.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chicago Blackhawks 0 0 0 - 0
St. Louis Blues (lead series 3-0) 1 1 1 - 3
Curtis Joseph blanked the Blackhawks for the second straight game and Brett
Hull scored a goal and added an assist to lead the Blues to a 3-0 series lead.
Chicago hasn't scored in 131:09 of play since Brian Noonan's hat-trick goal in
game 1.
First period-- 1, St. Louis, Janney 1 (Hull,Brown), 16:53 (pp).
Second period-- 2, St. Louis, Hull 3 (Miller), 12:31.
Third period-- 3, St. Louis, Emerson 1 (Felsner,Shanahan), 16:44.
Shots on goal-- Chicago 9-12-13--34. St. Louis 7-13-4--24. Power-play
opportunities-- Chicago 0 of 4; St. Louis 1 of 7. Goalies-- Chicago,
Belfour, 0-3 (24 shots-21 saves). St. Louis, Joseph, 3-0 (34-34).
A--17,985.
Referee-- Dan Marouelli. Linesmen-- Randy Mitton, Shane Heyer.
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Vancouver Canucks (lead series 2-1) 1 2 1 - 4
Winnipeg Jets 3 0 2 - 5
Teemu Selanne broke out of his mini-slump with a hat trick, including the
game-winner, to lead the Jets to a 5-4 victory. Trevor Linden and Pavel Bure
each scored twice for the losing Canucks.
First period-- 1, Winnipeg, Tkachuk 1 (Housley), 3:52. 2, Winnipeg, Selanne 1
(Housley,Shannon), 7:01 (pp). 3, Vancouver, Bure 2, 18:29. 4, Winnipeg,
Selanne 2 (Shannon,Housley), 19:57 (pp).
Second period-- 5, Vancouver, Linden 2 (Ronning,Lumme), :14. 6, Vancouver,
Linden 3 (Adams,Slegr), :59 (pp).
Third period-- 7, Winnipeg, Borsato 1 (Steen), 2:53 (sh). 8, Winnipeg,
Selanne 3 (Shannon), 9:35. 9, Vancouver, Bure 3 (Babych,Lidster), 15:52.
Shots on goal-- Vancouver 18-9-10--37. Winnipeg 13-8-8--29. Power-play
opportunities-- Vancouver 1 of 8; Winnipeg 2 of 6. Goalies-- Vancouver,
McLean, 2-1 (29 shots-24 saves). Winnipeg, Essensa, 1-2 (37-33).
A--15,569.
Referee-- Kerry Fraser. Linesmen-- Gord Broseker, Dan Schachte.
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Calgary Flames (lead series 2-1) 2 1 2 - 5
Los Angeles Kings 0 1 1 - 2
(Boxscore tomorrow)
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Saturday, 24 April 1993:
Washington at NY Islanders (NY Islanders lead series 2-1), 7:40pm EST
Boston at Buffalo (Buffalo leads series 3-0), 7:40pm EST
Quebec at Montreal (Quebec leads series 2-1), 8:10pm EST
Sunday, 25 April 1993:
Pittsburgh at New Jersey (Pittsburgh leads series 3-0), 1:10pm EST
Chicago at St. Louis (St. Louis leads series 3-0), 1:10pm EST
Calgary at Los Angeles (Calgary leads series 2-1), 3:10pm EST
Detroit at Toronto (Detroit leads series 2-1), 7:10pm EST
Vancouver at Winnipeg (Vancouver leads series 2-1), 9:10pm EST
-JPC
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53 |
Let's be careful here. If players' performance was completely random
in (Clutch-No Clutch), then you would still expect some players to be
good in the clutch every year and some to be not-so-good every year.
With two years worth of data, you'd have 1/4 of the players good each
year, 1/4 bad each year, and 1/2 would have one good and one bad year.
We have 96 players for 5 years ('84-'88). Just flipping a coin, you'd
expect 3 players to be good all 5 years and 3 to be bad every year.
This is what we actually get--
No. of good years 0 1 2 3 4 5
Clutch performers 4 10 37 24 18 3
Coin flip (random) 3 15 30 30 15 3
Essentially the distribution of clutch performers by number of years
of good performance is the same as what you would get if the process
leading to deviations from non-clutch performance was completely random.
If there was anything to clutch hitting (at least in this definition)
that had any predictive capability, you expect to see the number of
players at the ends to be much larger than that predicted by flipping
a coin. Further, if you limit yourself to players who were a lot above
or below average in clutch situations (say, 1 standard deviation from
the mean) more than one year, the random explanation still looks good.
In the four years ('84-'87) that I looked at the data from Elias, there
were 79 (29) players with a minimum of 25 (50) at bats in clutch
situations that were 1 sigma from the mean two different years. Of
those 79 (29) players, 38 (14) of them changed sign between the two
years. In other words, they were great clutch hitters one year and
really horrible the other year. If it was just a random process,
you'd expect those numbers to be 39.5 (14.5).
Everything that's been measured about clutch hitting over a period
of years that could be used to predict any ability with any
proposed definition has looked like a random process (with the
caveat that there may be something related to platoon advantage
that could be dragged out of the data--e.g., John Lowenstein
probably never had a "clutch" AB against a left-handed pitcher,
but he might well have had some in blowouts, so that there would
be a bias since his clutch ABs would be more geared to his
platoon advantage). This is not a subject that has been glanced
at casually. A lot of people have put a lot of effort into
studying it and every one of them, with the exception of the
Elias study, has been unable to find anything that would allow
you to predict how someone will do in clutch situations better
than flipping a coin. (Self-serving plug follows: some of the
flaws in the Elias study are discussed in my paper in the forth-
coming SABR book, _The Perfect Game_, by Taylor Publishing. The
authors are supposed to get a slice of the advance, so go bug
your local bookstores now, and maybe I can get enough to take my
wife to dinner once.:-)
Harold | 0 |
930 |
The overhead replay pretty clearly showed that it was the Quebec
defender who deflected the puck. The re-play officials did not
take nearly as much time to make this call as they did for the first
non-goal, so it seemed pretty non-controversial.
I agree that it was a great game; good to see Roy and Damphousse back
into form. Hopefully the sign of good things to come... | 0 |
850 | What's with John Franco? The Mets are hardly using him. I heard he was
completely recovered, but now I'm not so sure.
If there is anybody out there with information about Franco, I would
appreciate it if you could drop me a line.
| 0 |
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From: scunning@louven.berkeley.edu (Sean Cunningham)
Subject: Candlestick
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Hey folks,
Saw the Giants play ball at the 'Stick Saturday, April 17. It was the game
where Pendelton broke up the scoreless tie in the ninth with a two-out,
two-run homer to right to win it. (It wasn't the game where the fans
threw the give-away "fotoballs" onto the field in response to the homer --
too bad, huh?)
Well, the 'Stick is still cold. The Saturday game ended at 5:45pm, and it
was cold then. I can't imagine night games in April at the 'Stick. The
wind kicked up a little, too, and I got this idea.
At most games, there's a pile of hot dog wrappers and cups and trash on
the field a lot of the time. I propose a Kid's Clean-up Corps composed
mainly of 10-12 year old kids who would love nothing better than to run
out on the field in the fifth inning (when the guy in the Toro smooths
the infield) and grab the trash.
It might not be glamorous, but at that age I probably would have given
anything to be on the field with the ballplayers. Everybody wins here!
Whaddaya think? | 0 |
4,808 |
There are very few disciplines where 100% certainty is necessary to
state something as fact. Baseball is not one of them.
Therefore I can say that I know Clemens was better than Morris last
year, and Larkin was better than Griffin. No, I can't ascertain this.
I can't prove it. But I'm not required to do so.
And since you obviously feel that such threads are meaningless,
why don't you simply stay out of them? | 0 |
3,452 | Well, I got the scores for Sat's games...
AHL PLAYOFF SCORES-- FIRST ROUND (home team in CAPS)
================================
GAMES PLAYED ON SAT, 4/24
-------------------------
BALTIMORE 3 Binghamton 1
ROCHESTER 3 Utica 2
SPRINGFIELD 4 Providence 3
===================================================================
SERIES STATI (plural of status? :)
----------------------------------
Adirondack defeated CDI, 4-0
Springfield defeated Providence, 4-2
Binghamton tied w/Baltimore, 2-2
Rochester defeated Utica, 4-1
St John's leads Moncton, 3-1
Cape Breton defeated Fredericton, 4-1 | 0 |
1,328 |
And you know what? There is no such method inherent in real life
either. So I would assume you would endorse the notion that we
cannot state, with any level of objectivity, that Mother Theresa
has accomplished more good in this world than Joseph Stalin.
After all, life on earth is a team effort.
Have you tried glasses? I find them quite useful.
After all, there must be some reason you choose to ignore the mounds
of evidence we present. It's too bad you feel it necessary to close
your mind and eyes to knowledge; you live a poorer life as a result
of that choice.
Heck, I'd wager that you could predict a WS winner with greater
accuracy than Jeanne Dixon. And you know why? Because I have
full confidence that despite your protestations to the contrary,
you are quite capable of using the knowledge we can come up
with through statistical methods to boost your knowledge level.
Have you tried calling a kettle black?
In other words, in your world, you cannot objectively state that
Jack Morris was more important to the Blue Jays than Al Leiter last
year.
In your world, that may indeed be true. Fortunately, in the world
the rest of us occupy, it's not.
I hope you never serve on a jury, Roger. I think the rest of the
jury would have to kill you. "There's no way I can objectively
judge the defendant to be innocent or guilty. You see, there are
2 billion other people on this planet. We have no way of knowing
whether the defendant would have committed the crime if it wasn't
for all the other people on the planet. We have no way of knowing
how the defendant would have acted had he been on a different planet,
because living on this planet is a team effort. And no individual
committs a crime totally isolated from his society; he is a part of
that society. That being case, anything I have to say on his
culpability would be absolute subjectivity, so I refuse to vote." | 0 |
5,695 |
Okay, I think we all agree that singles hitters should take a
strike or two and try to get on base any way they can.
So the "No Power/Impatient" guys have no excuse.
The "No Power/Patient" guys are doing the right thing.
Now the "Impatient/Power" guys (how could you leave out the Big Cat?).
Would these guys have a better slugging percentage if they took
more pitches? Perhaps, but I doubt it. If you tell Joe Carter
to go up there and take a few pitches, he will draw more walks, but
he also won't hit as many frozen ropes into the bleachers because
he is more likely to hold back on a pitch that he used to drive.
The "Patient/Power" guys? Joe Morgan had a small strike zone and
Rickey Henderson has "a strike zone the size of Hitler's heart"
so they get their walks based on the small zone.
Look at the other 5 guys: Thomas, Bonds, McGwire, Ruth and Williams. Wow!
A lot of pitchers would rather nibble at the corners and maybe
walk these guys that to throw a clear strike to them.
The pitchers would do better (in my opinion) by just coming after
them with a good fastball for a strike on the first pitch, but pitchers
would rather nibble, go 2-0 or 3-1 and then get hurt. | 0 |
5,682 |
This would be dumb move of the nineties...Lindros is big and strong...
but why give him a ball and chain on one leg and an anchor on the
other to drag along.
Not if Pocklington gets there first! (-...actually, if Pocklington
doesn't get a better deal, he would probably go to Hamilton...taking
the team out of Canada would get the whole country mad at him...
taking the team to Hamilton wouldn't get anybody mad at him that
isn't mad at him already...and would make him a lot of friends
in Southern Ontario...so many that the whining of the stupid politicians in
Edmonton and the fickle spoiled fans wouldn't be noticed at all.
Edmonton would wallow in anonymnity. | 0 |
7,085 |
Lou Gehrig, IRONMAN
| 0 |
4,304 | Finns had to do their best last night when they played against Norway
in world champs. After two periods the score was still 0-0. This game was
quite much similar to the first game Finland played (against France).
The norwegian goalie was very good and a bit lucky, too. In the third period
Juha Riihij{rvi scored 1-0 from a rebound, the time was around 5 mins or so.
The second goal was scored by Kari Harila, who shot straight from a faceoff
behind the Nowwegian goalie. Saku Koivu, the 18-year-old center got his first
point of this tournament. Saku Koivu played very well througout the game and he
was awarded the best player of the game- prize. Despite the fact that he is
quite small in size he handles the puck very well and is a fast skater.
I think that we will hear from this guy in the future.
| 0 |
638 |
The only way to change ESPN's thinking, if it is even possible, is to complain
to them directly. Anyone know there telephone # in Bristol, Ct?
I do find it hard to believe that ESPN doesn't think viewers will simply
change the channel from a boring game....I know I did. And then, when
they didn't show the NYI-Wash overtime(s), I was livid! If I wanted
to watch baseball, I could have turned on the Phillies-Padres extra
inning game....instead, I went to bed angry......I boycotted ESPN's
morning Sportscenter today, I was still so incensed.
My wife says I shouldn't go to bed angry, but last nite.........GRRRRRRR!
| 0 |
2,351 |
Geez, I didn't realize things were so bad at Ohio State that they can't
afford phone books, or even operators.
This is probably Clinton's fault, isn't it...8^)
403. | 0 |
5,312 | 0 | |
6,705 | Less Than 40 People (617) 267-1700
40 or more (617) 262-1915 | 0 |
754 | Did anyone see the Montreal - Quebec game yesterday? It was tight right down
to the last second of the third period. In the overtime Roy and Hextall played
like they were gods.
Ok, so Montreal won! They deserved it after getting their first goal in
overtime waved off because the puck was hit in with a high stick. Their second
goal in overtime was also replayed, but I could not tell if it was the Montreal
player who kicked it in. The puck definitely was not directed in by a stick.
Anyways, Montreal is back into the series.
| 0 |
243 |
That would be Clint Malarchuck. It was speculated at the time, that
the injury was so serious that had he been playing at the other end
of the rink at the time (he was playing in the same end as the
ambulence is parked), he never would have survived. Ditto, if he
were playing anything other than a league with an ambulance on
standby.
If you've seen video tape of the incident, it is amazing how much blood
there was. It was literally spurting out all over the ice, as Clint
grabbed his neck and watched the puddle in horror.
Amazingly enough, he made a full recovery, and played again in the
NHL. He was getting on in years at the time of the incident anyway,
and didn't play for too long afterward. Some people speculated that
he just couldn't get himself back together after the incident, and I
think he had a bunch of other personal problems dogging him afterward.
He did eventually get back to form, and played another year or so after
that, and then I believe he retired.
Anyone else?
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Carol Boudreau #44 a.k.a. The X-Terminator
boudreau@athena.mit.edu Go Flames! Rock the Kings! | 0 |
6,811 | <KIME.93Apr20133127@mongoose.torolab.ibm.com> <mjones.735335684@fenway>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) 367-3837 {eskimo.com}
Yeah, Morris just knows how to win. That's why he lost 18 for Detroit in
1990. Funny how he wins a lot of games when he pitches on good teams but
loses a lot when he pitches on bad ones. And if "rings" was the only
criteria for success, then teams would always tend to repeat, and
eventually you'd have the same team win the WS every bleepin' year. Sort
of like the yanks in the 50s.
Morris is a decent pitcher on the downside of a good, not great, career.
Toronto will finish 3rd or 4th this year, with Morris and all those
rings, because their pitching staff was destroyed over the off-season. | 0 |
1,968 |
[Some discussion about whether Elias is money grubbing deleted]
Some thoughts and facts,
1.) Bill James is a partial owner of STATS, inc. However he has almost
nothing to do with the day-to-day operations of the company, although he
does have significant input into the design of the books that bear his name.
(The handbook, but not the scoreboard). To the best of my knowledge, the
only things that Bill actually writes for STATS are the predictions section
of the handbook, and the Bill James Fantasy Baseball rulebook.
2.) The debate over Elias goes way back. Bill James' early stuff was hampered
by the fact that Elias would not give access to their stats at any price.
Project Scoresheet, and later, STATS were founded to fill this void. You
can call STATS, and ask them for a report on just about anything in their
database, and they will provide it -- for a price, of course. Or you could
just log into their online system and look at the data yourself. Having
attempted to pry numbers from Elias in the past (football, not baseball), they
just don't do that. In STATS eyes, the high ground comes from making the
information available at all.
3.) That being said, I'm pretty dissapointed by Bill's book this year, too.
I am given to understant that it was mostly a response to the publishers
desire to have the book come out sooner than April.
Hope this makes things just a little bit clearer.
(Bias alert. I am a former part-time employee of STATS.) | 0 |
5,556 |
While I agree that Lemieux deserves the Hart, it is far from a "no-brainer".
The Hart trophy goes to the player most valuable to his team, not to the best
player in the league. So your above arguement is really worthless.
The Pens without Mario are still a damn good hockey team. The Leafs without
Gilmour would have been fighting Tampa Bay for the 3rd pick.
Like I said, Mario deserves it, IMHO. But it is a very close race and a
Gilmour victory would not surprise me. I dislike Doug Gilmour with a passion,
but I must concede that he is extremely valuable to the Leafs. | 0 |
7,089 |
Minnesota Lumberjacks (thought of Bunyons - as in Paul, not sore feet or Babes
as in Big Blue Ox)
Seattle Rainiers (I think this was considered by the new ownership -- harkening
back to AAA glory days -- and placating at least one local
brewer :-) | 0 |
3,043 |
Dayley's salary was guarenteed...with Wells the Jays were only on the
hook for 25%(?) of it.
Give Jackson a break...he lost about 10 pounds with that flu he had
when he was traded.
I would rather have Molitor than Winfield...Winfield was just hogging
all the credit, and he was trying to soak the Jays for a 3 year
guarenteed contract...
The Jays pitching can only get better...Molitor and Alomar haven't hit
anything yet...and the Jays are still over .500... | 0 |
7,253 | TWINS UPDATE -- Posted April 22, 1993
---------------------------------------------
The Twins defeated the Milwaukee Brewers 5-4 today to conclude a three game
homestand with the Brew crew. The Twins took two of three games in the series,
with scores as follows:
Tuesday April 20th MN 10
Mil 0
Winning Pitcher Banks (2-0)
Wednesday April 21st Mil 10 (10)
MN 8
LP - Hartley ( 0-1 )
Thursday April 22nd MN 5
Mil 4
WP - Deshaies (4-0)
Sa - Aguilera
Highlight/Low Lights of the Series:
------------------------------------
Jim Deshaies continues to be the surprise of not only the Twins, but of
the American League as well. Going into today's game, Deshaies was 3-0
with a 1.74 ERA. Deshaies allowed 2 Earned runs in 6 2/3 innings, meaning
his ERA will climb slightly. Deshaies, who came to MN via a trade with
Philadelphia which sent David West there, continues to make Andy MacPhail
look like a true genius.
Willie Banks has put together two solid starts for the Twins, going 6.1 innings
on Monday while coasting on solid Twins hitting. Deshaies and Banks now
combine for 6 of the Twins eight victories, while Tapani/Mahomes/Erickson are
0-5.
Wednesday's game marked the first opposing left-handed starting pitcher for the
Twins this year (Rickey Bones). The Twins teed off against both him and
subsequent relief, including a Grand Slam by Kent Hrbek which pushed the lead
to 7-3. The Twins pitching staff could not hold the lead, though, allowing
4 walks in the 7th inning, 2 of which scored and coming with bases loaded.
Tapani gave up one walk before being relieved, Guthrie two walks, and Mike
Hartley one walk before the inning was over. This tied the game at 7-7, and
the Brew Crew rocked Mike Hartley for 3 runs in the top of the tenth to win
it.
Aguilera continues to be shaky against the Brew Crew. 6 of 20 career blown
saves have come against the Brew Crew, and today's game was shaky as well.
Coming into the ninth with a 5-2 lead, Aguilera gave up a solo HR to Vaughn,
then hits to Darryl Hamilton and Dickie Thon before finally retiring the
side. Once again, the tying run made it to second base on Aggie.
Weak hearted Twins fans are advised not to watch Aggie in the ninth.
General News
-------------------------------------
Pedro Munoz continues to improve as an outfielder, playing in left field on
Tuesday's game. He continues to bat weakly against right handed pitching,
though, which has limited his playing time. Gene Larkin and JT Bruett(former
Gopher) have been playing right field, as both can bat left handed.
The Twins begin a three game series with the Detroit Tigers tomorrow. Starting
Pitching is tentatively scheduled as Erickson, Mahomes, Banks. The Detroit
Tigers have had TWO 20 run games in the last ten days, and should provide
quite a challenge to the young MN pitching staff.
The Twins have 9 HR's this year, three each from Puckett, Hrbek, and Winfield,
the third, fourth, and fifth batters, respectively.
Brian Harper pegged 4 of the first 6 baserunners attempting to steal second
this year, and shows much improvement in this category.
Jim Deshaies has three pick-offs and one balk this year. Some say he
has the best 1st base move in baseball. This move has enabled him to pitch
out of some tight early jams, and has certainly contributed to his 4-0
start. Watch to see if umpiring crews began calling the balk more tightly
in response to opposing team complaints about his leg kicking behind the
rubber on the pick-off move.
Current MLB AL West Standings( from Joesph Hernandez, jtchern@ocb.berkeley.edu ) | 0 |
409 |
It is ironic that in any post that criticizes langauge ability, the critic
invariably makes a mistake himself ("english" is generally written "English".)
Oddly, I do not see that I have contested any of that. Perhaps you, with
assuredly greater "english" ability can explain, in tiny words that I might
grasp their meaning, precisely WHERE I infer that you have said any of those
things?
No Mr Fisher, you should place the burden of proof on the one who makes the
allegation in the first place. You do not. Perhaps you might explain why that
is? As for the email route, Mr Fisher, you might have tried that yourself. | 0 |
6,808 | Here's a few two-sport star trivia questions. I'll admit they're not
too difficult, but a bit challenging nevertheless.
Mail me your answers please; or post them.
1. Which pitcher played for the Harlem Globetrotters?
2. Which major leaguer briefly tried professional golf in 1978?
3. Which does Dieon Sanders have more of (professionally):
career touchdowns or triples?
4. Has there been any player of both pro hockey and baseball?
If so, name him and the years he played each.
If you have any other two-sport star tidbits, feel free to include them. | 0 |
1,403 | If I were Pat Burns I'd throw in the towel. The wings dominated every
aspect of the game. Trying to mix up the lines is a dead end. Murray
has too many combinations to counter with. My prediction is wings in 5. | 0 |
7,398 |
Right. Most definitely.
This may be the root of the confusion...
Please consider the following hypothetical with an open mind. Note
that I am *not* (yet) saying that it has anything to do with the
question at hand.
Suppose we have a simplified Lotto game. You pick a number from 1-10
and win if that number is drawn. Suppose we have a large population
of people who play this game every week.
In the first year of the game, approximately 1/4 of the population
will win 7 or more times.
In the second year of the game, 1/4 of those 7-time winners will again
be 7-time winners.
In the third year of the game, 1/4 of those who won 7 or more times in
each of the first two years will win 7 again.
Suppose I started with 1024 people in my population. After three
years, I have 32 people who have consistently, in each of the last
three years, won 140% or more the number of times expected.
Do we expect them to be big winners in the fourth year of the game?
No. Because we know there is no skill involved. Nothing about these
"consistent winners" can influence their chances of winning. But
suppose we *don't* know whether or not there is a chance that skill
might be involved. Perhaps some of the people in our population are
psychic, or something. How would we test this hypothesis?
We can look for correlations in the population. Now most of the
population will show zero correlation. But our psychics should show a
high positive correlation (even if they aren't very good psychics,
they should still manage to win 7 or more times most years). Net
result? A small positive correlation over the entire population.
Well, zero correlation is zero correlation. You mention that Sabo has
hit poorly in the clutch over the last 3(?) years. But if we look at
the past, we find that clutch patterns are just as likely to reverse
as they are to remain consistent. The length of the streak doesn't
seem to make a difference to the probability that the player will be
clutch or choke the next year. Is there any reason to expect *this*
streak to be different from past streaks?
Now if it were true that "75% of all three-year streaks remained true
to form", then we might have something useful. But then we wouldn't
have zero correlation. Instead we have "50% of all three-year streaks
remain true to form, and 50% of all three-year streaks reverse". You
look at those numbers and say "three year choke streak implies more
likely to choke this year". But it would be equally valid to look at
those numbers and say "three year choke streak implies more likely to
be clutch this year", since the probabilities are split 50-50 each
way.
Then we would have something useful. And we would also have a
positive correlation. But for every individual that exhibits such a
pattern and holds true, there is another who exhibits such a pattern
and then reverses. | 0 |
6,499 | NL:
Chicago Wait Til Next Years
New York Bunch of Egos With no Chemistrys
Philedelphia Overacheivers Until Mitch Williams Blows Games
Pittsburg CHeapskates
Montreal Canadiens (love that name!)
St. Louis Cardinals (how boring!)
Miami Marlins (try telling Tampa-StPete that the Marlins are Florida's)
San Diego She's Going DOwn Men and Children Firsters
Los Angeles Disables Listers
San Francisco Get Past Number Five and You Are Fines
Cincinatti Underacheivers
Atlanta Bills
Colorado Pitching is 10% of Baseballers
Houston Astonomicals
AL:
New York Steinbrenners
Boston Wow, We're In Firsters
Cleveland Good Hit No PItchers
Detroit Lions (Hey, they score 20 every game also!)
Toronto God Does Jack Morris Stinkers
Baltimore We Have a Great Park and a Bankrupt Owners
Milwaukee Don't Drink the Water Drink the Beer Insteaders
Kansas City Oh God Not Againers
Oakland Gezz Did the Eck Blow a Saves
Texas Bashers
California We Won't Win But We'll Sure As Hell Tryers
Seattle Griffeys
Chicago We''l Find A Way to Lose Agains
Minnesota Marshmallow Domers
--
msilverm@nyx.cs.du.edu GO CUBS!!! | 0 |
1,764 | O.K. It would be a shame for Cards fans on the net
to go through the 1993 championship season without a
mailing list to talk on so I would be willing to look
at starting one.
Except there's one little problem...
I don't know the first thing about how to do it or
what it requires in terms of resources or time. So
if some kind soul could e-mail me the particulars of
getting starting and managing a mail list, I'd see
if it would be feasible for me to start a Cards mailing
list.
Thanks in advance,
Dick Detweiler | 0 |
7,348 |
As long as a player is under contract to an organization, he is obligated to
play only where that organization tells him to play or gives him permission
to play. The Rangers are certainly within their rights to force Zubov and
Andersson to report to Binghampton.
It certainly does reflect a lack of class on the part of the Ranger
organization, however. Is having Binghampton win the Calder Cup really more
important to them than keeping their players happy? | 0 |
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