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Are there any Montreal Canadiens fans out there who can let me the radio station(s) which are playing the playoff series (including short wave radio frequencies)? Lewisburg, PA (home of Bucknell University) is definitely not a hockey town! Please send responses to malinich@bucknell.edu
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I don't really mind the length of games either. If they want to speed the games up in sensible ways, that's fine with me too. However, what I object to is the assertion by baseball people (Whitey Herzog, Buck Rodgers are who I've heard say this) that games are too long because hitters are taking too many pitches, and that the strike zone needs to be expanded.
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During the local Rockies broadcast the other day Don Baylor went out to bring in a relief pitcher and a graphic came up on the screen that it was the "so and so sponsored" pitching change. I saw another game where the pinch hitter was sponsored. At other times during the game Rockies announcer Duane Kuiper was setting up the strategy that the defense might use with the expectation that Charlie Jones would jump in and discuss the situation. But what does Charlie do, he read's a beer advertisement and leaves Duane hanging. Duane's strategy proved prophetic. These examples happen over and over on radio and T.V. braodcasts making them sometimes very boring to listen to. I guess it's just a matter of time before a player sells his name to Budweiser, Nike, etc. I don't think it will be long until we hear: "Nike Budweiser drills it deep to left field, Chevrolet goes back, back, it's gone! The Apple Macintoshes (formerly the Boston Red Sox) are the 1998 World Champions!!!" Back to work, Anthony M. Jivoin National Center for Atmospheric Research RSF/ATD - FL1 P.O. Box 3000 Boulder, CO 80307
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Buffalo fans: Some people in the discussion group, as well as "commentator Al" on ESPN, believe that game 3 is critical for the Sabres. HELLOOOO!!!!! The Sabres are AHEAD 2 games to 0, not behind. As a life-long Sabres fan, I am well aware of their ability to choke, but let's not exaggerate that. As long as the Sabres win one of the next 2 games (be it game 3 OR game 4), they are still in good shape (ahead 3 games to 1), with game 6 to be played at Buffalo. If they lose games three AND four, then start worrying. Game 3 is critical for Boston, not Buffalo.
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I'd like to echo these sentiments. This is the worst coverage I can ever remember seeing on CBC. As soon as the game ends, I can count to 30, and by that time, they've signed off the air. No post game interviews, no updating of late scores, nothin'. TSN is really putting CBC to shame. I only hope the later round coverage improves, I mean, who really wants to see CBC PrimeTime News instead of hockey. My $.02, Darren
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Always has been?????? Even before he was even conceived of? That's a neat trick. Always will be?????? We leave a lot of room for error don't we. Hopefully I missed an earlier post that this was with regard to otherwise ... well I leave that to the individual to fill in but I will say what about Gehrig! (shortened and not capitalized for the ease of the reader)
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I think that Grant Fuhr deserves more credit than that! While it's true that the entire Sabres team played very well, I still believe that if it wasn't for Grant Fuhr, the series would now be tied 2-2. He virtually stole games 1 and 3 for the Sabres. In both of these games, Fuhr stood on his head to give the Sabres the chance to win. Especially in game 3, Fuhr made a series of huge stops in the third period when the score was tied 2-2. Even in game 2 when the Sabres won 4-0, the score seemed to indicate that the Sabres dominated. However, if it hadn't been for Fuhr, the Sabres wouldn't have been up (2-0 I think it was) through the 2nd period and the Bruins wouldn't have had to open up the game (thereby allowing Mogilny to score the third goal on a breakaway to salt away the game). There is no doubt in my mind that Fuhr was the critical factor in the victory. In my opinion, Neely, Oates and Juneau played as well as LaFontaine, Mogilny and Hawerchuk. The Sabres did get extraordinary efforts from Hannan, Sweeney, Wood, and Khmylev (compared to that of the Bruins checkers). However, the Bruins defense , IMO, played better than the Sabres defense (the Sabres have Ken Sutton playing a regular shift afterall ;-) The difference in the series was Fuhr, who outplayed Andy Moog. Gary
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Sigh. Here we go again. Must I? If I were to say that batting average is a predictor that can be used to judge which of two hitters is more likely to get a hit on a particular plate appearance, is that only valid if I can define the skill in hitting a baseball? That's all I've said, except I used the smaller sample of batting average in clutch situations. I did not say I could predict the future. I've suggested that the statistic is not necessarily meaningless. Here's the data for this situation: Non-Clutch Clutch AB H BA AB H BA Sabo 1539 452 .294 259 59 .228 Samuel 1564 383 .245 278 83 .299 If you were to have been the Reds manager at that time, I assume you would have had some basis for letting Sabo hit rather than pinch- hitting Samuel. I'm sure some of that basis would have utilized prior performance. You just wouldn't have used this particular aspect of prior performance. Is this not correct? One more time. I did *not* claim to be able to predict the future. I said that I accept the above data as an indication that Samuel would have had a better chance for success in that situation than Sabo. And I am not dismissing your work. I'm stating my opinion. You are saying that your work renders any opinion to the contrary invalid, so that the retention of that opinion is some kind of insult to your work. I did not say that clutch-hitting is well defined. I said that the data is significant to me. I did not say that it is a consistent skill. I have said that it is an indicator of performance under a certain set of circumstances. And, [big sigh] I have NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT EVER called you or anyone else on r.s.b. "stupid". It is nice, however, to see that you will consider the possibility that you actually could have some preconceived biases. Ah. I knew we could get to the name calling. And there's that word you like so much. Wait a minute. I thought I first had to define clutch hitting. Do I, or don't I? I made two statements in my post. 1. I am not convinced of your conclusions regarding clutch hitting. 2. I would have hit for Sabo. As for #2, many of us make a number of written statements through this media about what we think will happen in baseball. I'm not shy about it. I'll make the statement again. I believe that by season's end that Chris Sabo's batting average in clutch situations will be significantly lower than his batting average in non-clutch situations. I can't prove that it will happen, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Here's another one for you. In 1989 - 1991 Joe Carter's batting average in clutch situations was significantly below his batting average in non-clutch situations each year. I presume you think this is random. Non-Clutch: 1585 AB 411 H .259 Clutch: 338 AB 68 H .201 So what could we expect in 1992 from Mr. Carter? Well, his composite BA through 1989 was .268; through 1990 was .262; through 1991 was .263, so I think we have a pretty good idea of what kind of batting average he can produce. In 1992 he hit .264. Not surprising, huh? Also in 1992: Non-Clutch: 536 AB 144 H .269 Clutch: 86 AB 20 H .233 No, this doesn't prove any overall statistical trend that can be used to predict future performance across the breadth of major league ballplayers. It just makes me think that in 1993 Joe Carter's batting average in the clutch is not going to be as high as his ba in non-clutch situations. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - As for #1 (above), I have plenty of company. John Dewan of STATS,INC. is the editor of The Scouting Report wherein the statistics regarding clutch hitting are compiled, reported and referenced in the text. Bill James makes numerous references to a player's ability to hit well in the clutch. I am not saying that I can predict the future any more than they are. You (and others) are saying that your work renders their statements (and mine) meaningless. I don't accept that, which in your words proves that I am a "total idiot". "Stupid". "Total idiot". My, my. Such hostility. -- The Beastmaster
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The answer is - they're stupid. Seriously, I think you're right on the money; I've never understood the preoccupation with making sure a rotation has left-handed starters. The only time it makes sense to me is when you have an unbalanced schedule and your main rival(s) is loaded with lefthanded hitters. Other than that, I think you're completely right.
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Charles Hubbert writes... Chevy has let in 2 or 3 soft goals so far, but they all didn't matter. However, his recent history has been inconsistant play but comes up big when it counts. The score was 4-0 I think when the goal you mentioned was scored. In the third period when it looked like Toronto was coming back, Chevy was exceptional. I can see him as a Barraso style playoff goalie: inconsistant when there's nothing on the line, but comes up big when really needed. I guess we'll both find out. Ron
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1993 World Championships in Germany: ==================================== Group A results: RUSSIA - SWITZERLAND 6-0 (2-0,1-0,3-0) 1st: RUS 1-0 Alexei Yashin 1 5:23 RUS 2-0 Alexei Yashin 2 16:45 2nd: RUS 3-0 Ilia Biakin 1 7:13 3rd: RUS 4-0 Andrei Khomutov 3 3:47 RUS 5-0 Ilia Biakin 2 4:13 RUS 6-0 Sergei Sorokin 1 13:50 Penalties: RUS 7*2min 1*5min game penalty, SWI 9*2min Referee: Rob Hearn, USA Attendance: 3,500 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - CANADA - AUSTRIA 11-0 (6-0,2-0,3-0) 1st: CAN 1-0 Shayne Corson 1 9:51 CAN 2-0 Rod Brind'Amour 2 10:24 CAN 3-0 Paul Kariya 1 12:42 CAN 4-0 Gerry Galley 1 18:23 CAN 5-0 Eric Lindros 2 19:11 CAN 6-0 Rod Brind'Amour 3 19:46 2nd: CAN 7-0 Eric Lindros 3 0:31 CAN 8-0 Eric Lindros 4 8:50 3rd: CAN 9-0 Brian Savage 1 13:37 CAN 10-0 Brian Benning 1 16:26 CAN 11-0 Geoff Sanderson 3 17:55 Penalties: CAN 2*2min, AUT 2*2min Attendance: 7,500 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- USA - FRANCE 6-1 (3-1,1-0,2-0) 1st: FRA 0-1 Antoine Richer 1 5:02 USA 1-1 Adam Burt 1 8:32 USA 2-1 Rob Gaudreau 1 18:15 USA 3-1 Jeff Lazaro 1 18:29 2nd: USA 4-1 Adam Burt 2 10:54 3rd: USA 5-1 Shjon Podein 1 8:03 USA 6-1 Rob Gaudreau 2 16:25 Penalties: USA 3*2min, FRA 2*2min Referee: Darren Loraas, Canada Attendance: 1,511 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FINLAND - NORWAY 2-0 (0-0,0-0,2-0) 1st: 2nd: 3rd: FIN 1-0 Juha Riihijarvi 1 4:16 FIN 2-0 Kari Harila 1 12:37 Penalties: FIN 5*2min, NOR 7*2min Referee: Sven-Erik Sold, Sweden Attendance: 3,600 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The best goal scorers: Eric Lindros CAN 4 Rod Brind'Amour CAN 3 Dieter Hegen GER 3 Andrei Khomutov RUS 3 Geoff Sanderson CAN 3 Ilia Biakin RUS 2 Adam Burt USA 2 Viacheslav Bykov RUS 2 Jiri Dolezal CZE 2 Mike Gartner CAN 2 Rob Gaudreau USA 2 Patrik Juhlin SWE 2 Frank Pajonkowski FRA 2 Bernd Truntschka GER 2 Jarkko Varvio FIN 2 Alexei Yashin RUS 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some WC stats: * Fastest goal in a WC game after first face-off: 10 seconds: Steve Larmer, Canada 1991 in a game vs Sweden (ended 3-3) Boris Michailov, USSR 1978 * Most consecutive WC games without a loss: 47: USSR 1978-85 38: USSR 1963-68 37: Canada 1937-49 35: USSR 1985-90 27: Canada 1950-54
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Do you notice that _nobody_ on the team is willing to take charge? A dominant defenceman would be nice....too bad Schneider got hurt. He reminds me of Chris Chelios sometimes. Speaking of Chelios, I wonder if Serge Savard feels like a moron for making that trade. I also wish we still had Corson. Rob Ramage on the ice is less useful than a Gatorade bottle on the bench. Vincent Damphousse has decided to take a vacation, apparently. I have no idea why Demers is playing Denis Savard on the checking line with Carbonneau. Savard is skating well, and is one of the only dangerous Canadiens in Quebec's zone with the puck. Too bad nobody is in front most of the time. Do you also notice that in the defensive zone, not a single Nordique gets knocked down? It's disgusting. We also have Lebeau (5'10", 172) getting pasted at centre ice by Wolaninn (6'3", 205) with no reply from the team, except to yell for a penalty. Dammit, Denis Savard threw the best (only?) Montreal hit of the night when he knocked Sundin off-balance. When Denis Savard is your team's enforcer, there's big trouble someplace... Aside from that second goal, Roy did stand on his head. The third period at least provided something to look forward to. Habs won the period, IMO, and I guess somebody finally came along to smack them a couple of times in the second intermission to remind them that a game had started at 7:30. Hopefully they play that way at home. Roy made the saves (we'll ignore that second goal), so now it's up to the team. -- dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca
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Pierre Turgeon of the Islanders
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And won't they have to change their name to the "Steelers" or something. The only significant deposits of oil around Hamilton are those caused by the tire fire a few years back.
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Here's a summary of Don Cherry's Coach's Corner from April 23, 1993. It was taken from a tape delay of a Vancouver-Winnipeg game, but it was filmed during the Toronto-Detroit game that night. I think it was also shown during the Calgary-LA game. (Warning... Anti-fighting people may want to skip this post.) Topics ------ Don's Tie, Doug Gilmour, Wings/Leafs, Quebec/Montreal, Boston/Buffalo, Wendel Clark, Fighting and Stickwork. Episode Summary --------------- Once again, the episode started with a shot of Don's tie... This was a different tie than last time. Don pointed out some of the characters on the tie, but gave them different names... Felix the Cat (Sylverster), Maclean (Daffy Duck), etc. Ron Maclean asked Don what he thought of the current Wings-Leafs game. Don thought it was good. Burns told the Leaf players "They won in their building, we're going to win in ours". Don then began to praise Gilmour again. Don pointed out that Gilmour has never got less than 2 points or a goal in any game since he got 5 points in a game against St. Louis. (Don also claims that he gave a lot of encouragement to Gilmour, which was partly responsible for his good play.) Several clips were then shown of Gilmour from the series... A hit on Constantinov, and a pass to Andrewchuk resulting in a goal. On the game itself, the Wings were taking a lot of penalties in the first period. The Wings have enough talent to score short handed however, and when the Leafs get a power play, Coach Burns tells the Leaf players "Don't let them score on you". Ron brought up the previous Quebec-Montreal game. [Note: Montreal won that game in overtime, despite having a possible game winner disqualified because it was batted in with a high stick.] Don thought the high stick was obvious, even without the use of instant replay. On the Buffalo-Boston series [Note: Buffalo is currently winning the series 3-0], Don gave full credit to Goaltender Grant Fuhr. Fuhr should be getting 1/2 the team's playoff checks for his play. Wendel Clarke has recently been criticized for his performance during the Detroit-Toronto series. Don defended him, by saying that he can't play the way he should, because of the league's new rules. "This used to be a rough and tough league... Now its all hack and slash." Don lays the blame on Gil Stien for the problems. Don's opinions on fighting and stickwork are shared by Wings GM and coach Bryan Murray. A clip from a news conference by Murray was shown, in which Murray made statements claiming the elimination of fighting increases stickwork. Don also read a newspaper article in which Murray makes the following statements: "Players don't fight because they're afraid of getting thrown out of the game as instigator. Instead, they settle grudges by getting their sticks and slicing each other. Is this what the fans want to see? I guarantee there wouldn't be as many slashes if fighting were kept in the game." Don warned league commisioner Gary Bettman to "smarten up" with fighting in hockey. He went on to say that before, there used to be one guy cut with a high stick in a series. Now, with no fights, someone gets cut every period. Rating ------ Typical anti-fighting posturing, but here Don's opinion is supported by Murray.
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There is a correction to the note I posted for today's update: This is how it read: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Of course, last Saturday was April 17th. People who requested those scores should receive them by Friday the 23rd. Thanks. Joe Hernandez -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Hernandez | RAMS | | /.\ ******* _|_|_ / | LAKERS jtchern@ocf.Berkeley.EDU | KINGS | |__ | | DODGERS _|_|_ | | RAIDERS jtcent@soda.Berkeley.EDU | ANGELS |____||_|_| ******* | | |___| CLIPPERS
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Okay, the Caps AGAIN are about to break out the golf clubs but before they do, does anyone have the history of the Washington Capitals' futility record in the playoffs? I remember that Terry's first year was the first year that the Caps finally made it to the third round but before under Brian, I noticed that every other year the Caps got to the second round and the years in between they didn't make it past the first round. Is this trend continuning? The Admiral, a hopeless Caps fan. P.S. We still remember that 3 OT loss to the Islanders! Aurggghhhhhhhhh! ____________________________________________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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a) Dominican b) not all that light-hitting. .304 lifetime, .315 or so in 1966-73 when he did most of his playing. c) Professional pinch-hitter after that. Yes, that also gives you Jerry Hairston. Beginning 10th year now. Good one. Not the same thing. LOTS of people are bad OFs. Not all that light either. .750 OPS. Not 10 year. 10-year this year. Not 10-year. Not 10-year. Yup. OK. 10-year this year. *Six*-year this year. Brock, Coleman, and Wilson were hot-dog basestealers (also Lonnie Smith); that seems to be a special class. CFs like Pettis and Wilson also get more of a break, especially if they actually *do* field well. And Brock wasn't all that bad a hitter either, not until the end there when he spoiled his ifetime .300 BA. And again, I suspect thatthe problem is lessening over time. But if you look at the history of the last three decades, there seems to be a clear race-based pattern by which utility players and platoon players and lesser talents stayed in the ML far longer if they were white. Light hitting? 199 HR, .793 lifetime OPS mainly with *HOUSTON*? Also Latin, btw. Come back in 1999 and we'll party^H^H^H^H^H talk.
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No, and in fact, that was Ferreira's original strategy, which the troika proceeded to simply continue to implement. There wasn't exactly a radical shift in policy when he was ousted (something people seem to forget). The only real question is whether they did it as well as Ferreira could have if he stayed, or whether the basic strategy was flawed (since Ferreira has been quoated as saying he's going to do something different in Anaheim with the Ducks, my guess is that it wasn't as good in practice as it was on paper, and he's tweaking it a bit second time around). One also has to wonder whether the strategy would have been a lot better if we hadn't had those injuries, and whether we're complaining about the weather because an earthquake collapsed the root cellar. Let's also NOT FORGET that Ferreira came *THIS* close to trading Kelly Kisio, which, if the rumors I've heard are true, was over the strong objections of other aspects of Shark management and probably had a lot to do with both his ouster and the three-headed, consensus oriented GM. Imagine, for a second, where the Sharks would be today if that fax machine hadn't jammed. Especially an unhappy player that isn't playing as well because of it. Not that I'd accuse Mullen of tanking, but his motivation simply wasn't there, and that kind of thing can affect the team. Exactly. At the time they let Skriko go, we hadn't yet had the major injury bugs that killed us later. I'd much rather have Skriko around than someone like Dean Kolstad, but at that point, that wasn't the choice. And since the choice was more one of Skriko vs. someone like John Carter, I think the right choice was made for that time period.
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-=> Quoting Bill Gregory to All <=- BG> hey I saw that game! I thought the Sabres looked better that you BG> described. It's Boston that looked weak and unsure of themselves. Even BG> if (big if) they (bruins) win the third game what's that going to BG> prove? They be lucky! Well now the Sabres are up 3 - 0 in games, and its to bad that Boston isn't putting up more of a fight as that could have been the best series of the playoffs, I think Boston will come out smoking in the next two games and that Buffalo will end the series in game six back in Buffalo, and say, how about those Islanders? they are up 2 - 1 on the Capitals and will probably win the series, only to be clobbered by the Penguins who should eliminate the Devils in the next game. I cannot see (i'm sad to say) anyone beating the Penguins this year (again) and they will take cup # 3 I'm afraid. well talk to ya later. Steve
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Have Belfour and Roenick done another disappearing act at chips are down time? When I saw them it looked like the Blackhawks' defense might carry them along way in the playoffs. Well they held St. Louis to 17 shots in game 2 and lost.
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} } >I watched the final inning of Bosio's no-hitter with several people at } >work. After Vizquel made that barehanded grab of the chopper up the } >middle, someone remarked that if he had fielded it with his glove, he } >wouldn't have had time to throw Riles out. Yet, the throw beat Riles } >by about two steps. I wonder how many others who watched the final out } >think Vizquel had no choice but to make the play with his bare hand. } } In this morning's paper (or was it on the radio?), Vizquel was quoted as } saying that he could have fielded the ball with his glove and still } easily thrown out Riles, that he barehanded it instead so as to make the } final play more memorable. Seems a litle cocky to me, but he made it } work so he's entitled. i guess so. still, that's kind of a stupid move, IMO. he'd be singing a different tune if he had booted it, and the next guy up had hit a bloop single. stranger things have happened (hey, i used to be a big Dave Stieb fan...) and unfortunately, there's no such thing as an "unearned hit". :^) cheers,
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Whoa there! Lighten up, Andrew! When I was referring to "you dorks at the Western Business School", I was specifically referring to those assholes writing obnoxious comments insulting the state and people of Minnesota for no apparent reason. Being Canadian, and one who has friends who attended UWO, I personally don't want to be associated with the idiots who wrote those messages. One more thing, Andrew...until this season, the Leafs have sucked pretty badly over the last umpteen years (have they won the Cup during our lifetime?)...so the North Stars haven't been the only "shit" team in the Norris.
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Regardless, they'd have to sparkle from the pressbox. Errey's been out a couple games with a hip injury.
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First, a longer game in no way suggests "more baseball to watch," unless you include watching the grass grow as baseball. The lengthier games are so because of batters stepping out of the box, pitchers taking longer between pitches and excessive trips to the mound by managers and pitching coaches. And while it's true that the gaps between plays can be interesting, this is only true when they don't become extra-long. Quickly-pitched games can grab and hold your attention much better. Bring back the two-hour baseball game! (And the three and a half hour golf game with it!)
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Someone on the minor league mailing list probably does. I do, but I don't have time to type the whole thing in (I don't mind looking up specific date ranges or individual games when I can, but there are limits). Besides, this stuff is EASY to find. Baseball America puts out a book called the Directory. It's $10(US). Has every team's data and schedule in it. If I WERE to type in the whole scheudle, I'd just be spending a lot of time infringing on their copyright. Folks who are interested in the minors should check out my minor league list (see the signature), and folks who are tracking down team schedules should chec out the BA Directory. You can order it from 800-845-2726. I find it indispenable.
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Williams does not like hitting cleanup!! Secondly, Bonds and Clark (in that order) are a lot more productive with runners in scoring position than Matt "I am streaky, free swinger" Williams.
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much Pure and Simple, Grant Fuhr is money. He has been awesome in the playoffs, especially last night. But Mogilny has been scoring well, and his russian friend Kymlev (sp?) has also done well. But Fuhr is the biggest reason they are winning, and the difference between this year's team and previous years.
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WATCH OUT PITSBURGH HERE COME THE ISLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They said we wouldn't make the playoffs and we came in third They said the Caps would beat us and they're not going to They say that Pitsburgh has a 1:1 ratio of winning the cup but We'll prove them wrong. L E T S G O I S L A N D E R S!!!!!!! Bring it back home
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I watched the final inning of Bosio's no-hitter with several people at work. After Vizquel made that barehanded grab of the chopper up the middle, someone remarked that if he had fielded it with his glove, he wouldn't have had time to throw Riles out. Yet, the throw beat Riles by about two steps. I wonder how many others who watched the final out think Vizquel had no choice but to make the play with his bare hand. Does anybody think Vizquel was wrong to field the ball barehanded? And if he failed to field it cleanly, would it (or should it) have been an error or a hit? (Judging from Bosio's grimace when the ball bounced past him, he must have thought it would go through for a hit.) Whether Vizquel was right or wrong, he certainly made one hell of a play. -- -------------------------- Phil Brown | aka pb6755@csc.albany.edu |
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1993 World Championships in Germany: ==================================== Group A results: SWEDEN - SWITZERLAND 4-6 (0-3,3-1,1-2) 1st: SWI 0-1 Manuele Celio 1 3:21 SWI 0-2 Patrick Howald 1 11:37 SWI 0-3 Patrick Howald 2 (Sven Leuenberger) 16:00 2nd: SWE 1-3 Peter Andersson 1 (Michael Nylander) 2:47 (pp) SWI 1-4 Roman Waeger 1 (Martin Rauch,Sven Leuenberger) 8:53 (pp) SWE 2-4 Jonas Bergqvist 3 (Markus Naslund) 9:08 SWE 3-4 Jan Larsson 1 (Patrik Juhlin) 18:50 3rd: SWE 4-4 Mikael Renberg 2 (Thomas Rundqvist,Peter Andersson) 7:49 SWI 4-5 Roman Waeger 2 9:07 SWI 4-6 Felix Hollenstein 1 (Sven Leuenberger,Thomas Vrabec) 11:29 Shots on goal: Penalties: Attendance: Referee: Sweden 5 20 18 - 43 4*2min 6,000 Rob Hearn, USA Switzerland 10 6 7 - 23 5*2min Switzerland beat Sweden in a WC for the first time since 1950, and the Swiss now have a small chance of reaching the quarterfinals (if Austria beats Italy tonight). The Swiss took the lead after Hakan Ahlund made an incredibly stupid drop pass at his own blue line, and Celio came in alone with Soderstrom and beat Tommy to the stick side. The Swedes continued to make mistakes as Howald was allowed to skate in between the Swedish D and put the puck past Tommy to make it 0-2. 0-3 was a nice one, Howald entered the Swedish zone, slammed on the breaks, and his shot went in by Tommy's far post. One of the lousiest periods I've seen Sweden play this year. Second period saw a new Swedish team, and the Swiss had to ice the puck many times. On a pp, Nylander skated in from the boards, Pavoni made the initial save, but Peter Andersson scored on the rebound. Then a power play goal from the Swiss, a slap shot from the blue line hit two players on the way to the goal and past Soderstrom also. Jonas Bergqvist made it 2-4 after a nice pass from Naslund behind the goal. Jan Larsson reduced the lead to 3-4 just before the end of 2nd period, on a pp skated in unattacked in front of the goal, and put the puck through Pavoni's 5-hole. Third period, Sweden equalized on a slap shot from Renberg that trickled through Pavoni's 5-hole. Then, another defensive mistake by the Swedes, Waeger was allowed to skate around the Swedish goal unattacked and from close range could make it 4-5. Hollenstein then scored 4-6 on a 2-on-1 break away, and put it top shelf with no chance for Soderstrom. Switzerland: Goaltender: 20 Reto Pavoni (28 Renatio Tosio) Defense: 26 Rick Tschumi, 2 Martin Steinegger 16 Sven Leuenberger, 5 Martin Rauch 7 Sandro Bertaggia, 17 Patrick Sutter 31 Samuel Balmer Forwards: 22 Alfred Luthi, 11 Felix Hollenstein, 25 Roman Waeger 23 Gil Montandon, 12 Roberto Triulzi, 10 Patrick Howald 35 Christian Weber, 18 Andreas Ton, 24 Joerg Eberle 15 Bruno Erni, 13 Thomas Vrabec, 29 Manuele Celio - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RUSSIA - CANADA 1-3 (0-2,1-1,0-0) 1st: CAN 0-1 Kevin Dineen 1 (Garry Galley) 4:28 CAN 0-2 Paul Kariya 2 (Eric Lindros) 12:20 (pp) 2nd: CAN 0-3 Eric Lindros 10 (Paul Kariya,Shayne Corson) 9:40 RUS 1-3 Valeri Karpov 2 (?) 16:24 3rd: Penalties: RUS 2*2min 1*5min, CAN 5*2min Referee: Anton Danko, Czech republic Attendance: 8,600 Russia probably made their best game of the tourney, but yet there wasn't enough to win against the effective Canadians. Galley took a slap shot that found Dineen by the far post, and Dineen just deflected the puck past Trefilov in the Russian goal. Then a power play goal, after a couple of deflections Eric Lindros found Kariya alone by the far post, and Kariya put the puck high over a sliding Trefilov. Russia won the shots in the first period 12-5, and they had the most of the scoring opportunities, but they just couldn't score. Second period saw Lindros scoring his 10th (!!) goal of the WC. Kariya entered the Russian zone, slammed on the break to get past his defenseman, then made a nice pass to Corson who just got the stick on the puck to deflect it to Lindros who one-timed the puck. The Russians then finally got their goal, Karpov broke in from the side and made a slap shot in Tugnutt's top right hand corner. Player of the game in Canada was voted Paul Kariya, and for Russia Valeri Karpov. I agree, the difference in this game was Lindros and Kariya, and in part also Tugnutt. Kariya had a far better game now than vs the Swedes, and he was very impressive. Kariya got the place in the line with Lindros after Mike Gartner went out with a rib-injury early in the first period. Lindros, BTW, lead the point scoring with 14 pts (9+5) before this game, 7 pts ahead of the next player! i.e. double as much as the next player (among those Kariya with 1+6). Amazing! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Group B results: FINLAND - CZECH REPUBLIC 1-3 (0-0,1-1,0-2) 1st: 2nd: CZE 0-1 Petr Hrbek 2 11:04 FIN 1-1 Mika Alatalo 1 17:51 3rd: CZE 1-2 Jiri Dolezal 3 5:04 CZE 1-3 Martin Hostak 2 19:45 (en) Penalties: FIN 8*2min, CZE 9*2min Referee: Vincent Moreno, Switzerland Attendance: 4,300 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GERMANY - USA 6-3 (5-0,0-0,1-3) 1st: GER 1-0 Raimond Hilger 2 7:12 GER 2-0 Gerd Truntschka 3 11:16 GER 3-0 Ernst Kopf 3 11:55 GER 4-0 Michael Rumrich 3 16:06 GER 5-0 Benoit Doucet 1 18:45 2nd: 3rd: USA 5-1 Derek Plante 1 4:06 GER 6-1 Dieter Hegen 5 6:57 USA 6-2 Craig Johnson 1 7:30 USA 6-3 Rob Gaudreau 3 13:07 Penalties: GER 7*2min, USA 10*2min Referee: Valeri Bokarev, Russia Attendance: 11,000
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What sadist brought up this vein about Malarchuk? When I saw what happened I wanted to throw up, and at the same time I was devastated, since I thought that Malarchuk wouldn't survive. BTW, I believe he picked up an alcohol problem after (before?) the incident. To radically change the subject, the Caps must be having nightmares about the Isles in overtime in the playoffs. Have they *ever* beaten the Islanders in a playoff OT game? This is lunacy. The Caps are such a sorry team in the playoffs, they consistently choke against opponents who they should be beating. Losing two OT games in a row is not coincidence, it's evidence of the choke factor.
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As far as I can tell, he was right next to Bassen! Don't you guys love it when people like me come out of the woodwork...8^)
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Norman Green claims that he has lost money over the last three years that he has owned the team. When he bought the team, it seemed kind of obvious that he was going to have to deal with a few years in the red, before the team started making a profit again. He gave the impression that he was willing to do so. He claimed two years ago that the team needed to average only 8000+ fans per game in order to pull a profit, but this season the team averaged 12000+ fans, despite increasd ticket prices. I think the team's attendence and play was clearly in an upward trend, which leaves me dumbfounded as to how he could ignore that in deciding to move. He was even offered the many concessions he rudely demanded, such as guaranteed season ticket sales, cheap rent at the other two arenas in town, etc. Oh well, I guess the bottom line is $$$. Green wanted immediate huge returns in Dallas, and wasn't willing to wait another year or so in MN. Dallas gave Green a pretty stellar deal to play there (although I feel Minnesota's was quite reasonable), and he also has some cronies down there as well. All this means, is that Minnesota is without an NHL team for a year or two. Too bad for the NHL.
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Okay, I'll bite. How can OBP be *lower* than batting average? Sac flies or something?
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If you wanted to send your own letter to the NHL where would you send it? Brett E. Ball
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Quite honestly, this one is ridiculous. Consider the following scenario: Runner on third. As the pitcher starts to throw home, the runner takes off for home and the batter squares around to bunt for the suicide squeeze. The pitcher, seeing this, does not throw home, but stops in mid action and puts the runner in a run down. It is the balk rule that prevents this from happening. Believe it or not, this actually happened to me once in an OBA (Ontario Baseball association) game in Milton, Ontario. I was the batter and to my amazement, the umpire missed it. In the 12 years that I played ball, this was worst piece of umpiring I ever saw.
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You're definitely correct in that Williams absolutely has to be sandwiched in between Clark and Bonds. He must, and I mean MUST, get fastballs to hit...otherwise he becomes little more than Sixto Lezcano in disguise. What I would suggest is perhaps batting Bonds, Williams, and Clark 3-4-5, the reason being that I feel Bonds' potential basestealing abilities are wasted when he's stuck behind two slow runners. I think the chance of getting 20-30 extra stolen bases with Bonds in the 3 spot would more than offset any drop in in run production by having Clark in the 5 spot.
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Still here. Just doing a little sobbing in our beer so we're to busy to post :-) Seriously I think I caught a .sig curse from Nelson :-) First the $%@#$%$ Rangers and $50 now the B's...... Hmmm....How bout dem Whalers? (No offense to steveg or others)
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I don't know. I think Phil Plantier has the ugliest stance. He looks like he's sitting on the toilet.
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I grew up listening to Harry Carey call the Cardinals' games and really liked him--then. But, as I recall, he was fired because he was too critical (read: honest) when he was announcing. He dared to point out the Cards' miscues and such. At least, this is what I remember from when I was a kid.
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Well, the "jettison for youth fast" strategy was his. Also in hindsight, it didn't work all that well, but I think it was more because it left the Sharks on a tightrope without a net, not that it was inherently flawed. It was the injuries that caused us to fall. From all indications, it wasn't the "major" factor, but the "last straw". There were personality conflicts among Shark management, and disagreements over how personnel were going to be handled (not just who was being traded vs. kept, but who was being sent to KC. What Ferriera did, if rumors are right, was not always what the folks behind the bench wanted or needed). I think if they'd kept Ferriera, they would have lost some of their other management staff. Depending on which sources you trust, we might have lost Grillo AND Lombardi AND Murdoch over the summer. Frankly, I want to keep those three. (we may well ahve also lost Kingston, which, of course, is now a moot point). The Sharks have been building an organizational staff that is highly consensual and cooperative. Ferriera wanted to run things his way. There were conflicts. Ferriera lost. That says nothing about his skills or accomplishments -- at that level, a lot is personality and politics. I think he did some good things for the Sharks, but that he never fit in as a "Shark person". I hope he succeeds beyond his wildest dreams down in Anaheim, too, because it'll be good for hockey. (but I want the Ducks to be doormats for a couple of years, so the Sharks succeeed first).
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As I recall from Kieth Hernandez' 'auto'biography, Rusty is a devout Roman Catholic. Kieth and Rusty would carpool to Shea everyday but Sunday, when Rusty would go to mass. SC
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It's over - the Sabres came back to beat the Bruins in OT 6-5 tonight to sweep the series. A beautiful goal by Brad May (Lafontaine set him up while lying down on the ice) ended it. Fuhr left the game game with an injured shoulder and Lafontaine was banged up as well; however, the Sabres will get a week's rest so injuries should not be a problem. Montreal edged Quebec 3-2 to square their series, which seems to be headed for Game 7. The Habs dominated the first two periods and were unlucky to only have a 2-2 tie after 40 minutes. However, an early goal by Brunet in the 3rd won it. The Islanders won their 3rd OT game of the series on a goal by Ray Ferraro 4-3; the Caps simply collapsed after taking a 3-0 lead in the 2nd. The Isles' all-time playoff OT record is now 28-7.
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writes... I hesitate to make assumptions about other people when they write, but neither of you two *sound* as though you have kids, and you may not have spouses either. Consider a night game starting at 7:05 PM EST. (It was 7:35 last year, but Cleveland showed what I thought was good sense in pushing it back.) I go, and I'm into it until 11 PM minimum. Extra innings could put me well past midnight. Even without extra innings, if the score is beyond 2-1 I can't see my family that night at all. If the next day is a workday, I may have to bag that as well. Further, the later the game goes, the colder it gets on the shore of Lake Erie. All that stuff enters into my consideration of even going to a game. If you say you don't care about whether the game is sped up, IMPO you are saying you don't care where the time goes, and that the game is for people who don't have families and don't have to get up for work the next day. RG
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- - I heard a story on the local sports news broadcast in Edmonton. - Oiler owner Peter Pocklington will be holding a press conference - next week. While the exact details are not known, it is believed - to concern the Oiler's future. - - Rumour has it that Pocklington signed a tentative lease arrangement - with Copps Collesium in Hamilton. During the press conference, - Pocklington may announce the deal. It is quite possible that - the deal may simply be a way to force Edmonton Northlands to - renegotiate the Oiler lease on the stadium. - - Northlands has offered to buy the Oilers for $65 million earlier, - but the offer was rejected immediately by Pocklington. - - As for me, my opinion is divided... Edmonton has been fairly - supportive of the Oilers. Even though they're a small market - team, they had many sellouts in the 80s. Even with the problems - that the team had this year, they still brought in more fans - than many teams in larger cities did. On the other hand, if - the team does move, there is no place more deserving than - Hamilton. Of course, how would that affect the grand - realignment scheme of Bettman? - Following up on this, the provincial government has been asked by the Opposition to block any deal that Pocklington is offering to Hamilton. The government said that Pock is going nowhere! Why don't I believe the government? Wasn't it Pocklington who wanted to be Tory leader 9 years ago?
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Do the Isles have another defenseman to insert into the line-up besides Pilon??? Once again, last night's STUPID penalty put the Isles in a hole for the remainder of regulation and 2 minutes into overtime!!! Even though the Isles nearly survived Pilon's blunder in regulation, it was the most inopportune time for a 5-minute major penalty. Instead of confronting Cote as he came across the blueline, Pilon backed up and swiped at Cote's nose with his stick. Al Arbour can't be serious to think Pilon is the guy to have out there with the game on the line??? I heard Scott LaChance is out till later in the series, but there must be someone else!!! Bring back the BAMMER, Dave Langevin!!!! *******************************LETS GO ISLANDERS******************************** John Scialdone SCIALDONE@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV
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bleagh! this was a terrific trade. snow will certainly be better than mattingly in the future, but that they'll be about the same now is a defensible opinion. abbott is one of the few truly great pitchers in the game today. i'm not sure about this one. i think that it's good, in that a pre-1992 boggs kicks hayes/meulens/whoevers' ass, and that a 1992 boggs still isn't ALL that shabby. it's bad, though, that the yankees expect a pre-1992 boggs, and will probably get a 1992 boggs. however, i'd still play boggs over hayes or bam bam. you have my full agreement here. he's not all that much better than velarde, and silvestri is just about a lock to be better than him. however, i do enjoy the fact that "spike" is not a nickname. not that this helps the yankees. i strongly disagree. i'd much much rather have a hundred games of tartabull and sixty games of dion james than 162 games of james.
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I've seen it as "Colmn" also. Blame the Associated Press. After the official scorer balances the official score card, they copy it and give it to several diffent people. One of those is a person from AP whose job it is to type it up (using a template on a laptop) and transmit it to the AP offices in New York (Rockefeller Center) via the telephone. The box scores are not checked and just rebroadcasted over AP's news delivery services. If there are corrections, those are issued later. It is the person sitting in front of a laptop at Shea (or whereever) whose fault that is. [NOTE: The AP puts out boxscores in three different formats with the one you see in most newspapers being the first one] Last week they were in Denver. Maybe the AP person in Denver did this (remember, they just started with MLB out there). Check tomorrow's paper (4/21) and see if the person who is doing it from Shea does the same thing.
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I DID NOT WRITE THAT! In fact, those statements were a rebuttal to an earlier posting that I made, and this was culled from my *strong* rebuttal to those statements. PLEASE! Slander. Shame. "after the game, it's no big deal" ???? After the employees leave the workplace, it doesn't matter what they say about the boss or the company? Puhlease. First, it's Ross Porter. Second, I am really tired of seeing the kind of response that indicates that all I do is parrot what some media person says or writes. I have a brain. If I choose to characterize something in a certain fashion, it's because that is what I believe to be accurate. It is not just because some unnamed "mediot" made the characterization. I did *not* brand Darryl's response as petulant, because I never heard any response from Darryl. I did call him a name. I referred to him as a primadonna. Someone else concluded that I did that because I "hate" him. I don't hate him. I think he's a primadonna. If you disagree, fine. But stop putting words in my mouth. -- The Beastmaster
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Good point - there haven't even been any recent posts about Ulf! Secretly, I'm convinced that he's responsible for the Bs being down 3-0 to Buffalo, somehow.
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How can anyone pick the worst Yankee pitcher. In the past 12 years there have been so many. Does the name Steve "You mean I should try and throw the ball to the catcher" Trout?
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SH>I'm a hockey fan from way back, and maintain an interest as best I can >here in the hockey hinterlands (Oklahoma). I'm hoping I can get a >reading from some of you about the move of the North Stars to Dallas. SH>I've been under the impression that Minnesota was one of, or possibly, >THE hockey state in the U.S. So why is the team moving to a city in >Texas? Is it that the owner is a greedy, self-serving profiteer, or >were the Stars really not making a profit? Or was the city or whoever >owned the arena doing some price gouging? SH>As much as I'd like to see the NHL only a 3 hour drive from me, I >can't help but feel for the people in Minnesota, unless they truly >didn't support the team. SH>Opinions, please. I used to work for the Stars. Minnesota supported the team to an extent. When I was there, we had quite afew sellouts (This was the season after the cup run and during the finals). Norm's main bitch was that there wasn't enough luxury suites. And, the ones he had were not always full. He wanted more boxes and wanted them full. He was just asking for too much from people that could go and see other hockey games at High Schools for $5 or college for about $10 that would probably be better. Mark þ QMPro 1.01 41-6393 þ Radioactive cats are very, very HOT!
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Wake up and smell the Norris!! Rick Zombo was traded to the Blues for Vince Riendo (sp?) last season.
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It was not just those penalties. Most of all it was the penalty the referee didn't call on the Czechs right before their first goal. Don't you think it's quite silly to call it a Nazi attitude, when some people throw coins on the ice? Hey, I don't approve the behavior of these guys, especially not in a WC game, but I can't see any reason for using the word 'Nazi' in this connection. Soccer hooligans are not just a German problem (remember the world cup in Italy). Again: there's a big difference between throwing coins and smashing shop-windows or fighting with other so-called 'fans', who come to a WC just to see if the Dutch or the English or the Germans are the best bruisers. Which other sports are you talking about? I don't think soccer is 'every possible sport'. How many Germans do you know? Do you think 200 out of 10000 is 'most of them'? If you hear about some white policemen beating a black man in the US, what do you think about the Americans? 'Most of them' like beating blacks?
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I've never heard of the Bob Dylan Baseball Abstract, but I am curious. Could someone clue me in? -- -------------------------- Phil Brown | aka pb6755@csc.albany.edu |
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This comes indirectly from Al Morgani who works in the studio for ESPN hockey. The management of ESPN was reluctant to leave the Pitt-NJ game (even though the outcome was certain) because of fear of the Wash-Ny game going to overtime. When the Caps scored with :02 left to tie the game, Al said he heard many people say f**K .!#$%. ESPN is under contractual obligation to show baseball and COULD NOT broadcast the OT of the hockey game. Next year, ESPN2 will be introduced so baseball fans can watch baseball and hockey fans can watch hockey. GET OFF ESPN'S BACK AND STOP POSTING ARTICLES ON THIS SUBJECT!!! There have been to many f****n complainers about this game that it's making me sick.
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(much mindless drivel deleted) Question to you Canadian folk: is this University of New Brunswick a branch campus of the Western Business School? Seems like the same sort of rectal appendage belongs to both of them.
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John Girash writes... You can get WJR a LONG way away. The problem is that, because of those well known and beloved "contractual obligations", WJR will be doing Tiger baseball instead of the Wings playoff games for probably half the games the Wings could play. For this series, I know tonight's game and I believe games 5 and 6 (if necessay) will be bumped. Ron
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Hindsight's 20-20. Nobody expected Kisio to have his 2nd best career year. I didn't mean to imply that Gund's offer wasn't enough. Gund's offer was the right $, but too late in the season. $2M offered in November lets Sather buy a replacement for Murphy *this* season and make the playoffs *this* year. $2M in March doesn't help Sather with his immediate objectives, doesn't help with long term objectives (only a prospect or draft pick does, and no way should the Sharks do that). However, getting back to what-if games, had Kisio been traded to Chicago last year, then the Sharks go 0 for October, and maybe Gund panicks sooner in November. And here's another what-if twist: Chicago would have had Kisio this season; they *never* go after Murphy in the first place because Kelly is having his *best* season (bigger guys in Chicago). So Gund has no competition. So Ferriera, Sather, and Keenan all look like geniuses. A broken fax machine, and Ferriera, Keenan, and maybe Kingston (and maybe even Green) lose their jobs. Kind of makes you shiver doesn't it. :-) Bottomline, for every black scenario any of you can concoct for Kisio leaving, I can concoct an equally bright one. Are you serious? - Let Ferierra go, - fire Kingston (these last two basically mean that Sharks are starting over again in terms of the timetable to capture the Cup. As I've stated frequently: 5 out 6 expansion teams had the same GM from inception through Cup season) - broadcast more home games than away games - broadcast very few road Pacific and Mountain time games - jack up my ticket prices from $27 to $38 in two years (not that I'm going to pay 120 bucks for 3 seats. I'll probably next to the virtual 107 folks) - not tell me my priority # - not let me sell my priority # - in order for me to get the free jacket, force me to order my tickets for next season before I get to select my section - not let me park at the new arena after paying for their privileged parking lot (which was sometimes full when I got there) for 2 straight years. I've been a loyal ticket holder, since day 1 (literally) in spring of '90 when the team was announced. and I'm not getting that loyalty returned. Wirtz treats his fans far better by comparison. And Pocklington with his cheap tix is the best owner of all. I know one isn't suppose to make negative comments on signatures, but what did us Oiler fans do to you to deserve the "Stay in Edmonton" part? I'd never wish the Kings to leave metro-LA; it's too much fun watching the Shark's beat them.
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Don't worry. This is a perfectly normal state of affairs. Had they actually been using him, you should be worried. He's recovered totally from his injury. That's why he's not pitching...so he can rest his arm enough that he can get injured again pitching on 38 days rest and then have fun dining in the Diamond Club in Shea Stadium while AY struggles every day out there... I've be quite happy to drop John Franco, just the same. Bring back Randy Myers! No, better make that...Bring Back Neil Allen!
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(Eric Roush) writes... Funny. I didn't realize Mr. Tanner brought up Bob Knepper v. Pam Postema in the first place. Thought it was someone named Jacobs. Why? If a statement is truly idiotic, and is universally thought so, the challenge is a waste of panting. Further, challenges that have nothing (yes, nothing) to do with *baseball* are wasting others' time. You got a problem with what Bob Knepper thinks? Let's hear it, in some sort of categorical manner. (Actually, I question whether either Knepper or Postema aren't "old news" at this point, although what I have read of Postema's book is interesting.) I agree this far. Sez you. That does not come out in what you say down the road, here. Yo. Even elementary school children have had access to our postings, albeit in an edited form. You want them to hear you talk like this? Don't you want people who come to this group to talk baseball to think you like to do the same? Or do you want them to think you're some politically correct demagogue who's oh-so sensitive? (Ho-hum.) Plus, you're here limiting free speech to "some obscure newsgroup that I don't read." What BS. You got a problem with what Jacobs says, what Knepper thinks, all you have to do is defeat it with better ideas, more and better speech. Yours is the easy way out. As for Knepper: ever notice how sometimes these guys will say just about any darn thing that pops in their heads when a mike is shoved in front of them? You know that often the best copy for the news is the one that isn't pre-prepared. They know Knepper has controversial ideas about women, they pop some question about Postema. (An interesting related question would be whether the two ever appeared in the same game. Off the top of my head, I guess "no." If my guess is right, Knepper popped off about something that had nothing to do with him -- and Postema gets a book for it, and he doesn't.) Now, why didn't *I* think of that? :-) :-) :-) RG
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Where is Roger anyway? Haven't heard from him in awhile. He must be out on the golf course waiting for the Leafs to join him any day now. : )
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(Detroit, April 21) Most knowledgable observers once again watched in shock as the Detroit Red Wings again beat the best goaltender in the world six times en route to another easy victory over the best team in the NHL. For the best goaltender in the world, Felix Potvin, six was a bad number as he surrendered six goals and collected six minutes in penalties in reponse to the goon tactics employed by the inferior Red Wings team. Alan
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It is indeed nice to have fans that are concerned about the dearth of disputatious dissertation linked to my hiatus. Have simply been too damned busy lately to keep you lads and lassies entertained. You can be sure, however, that I will somehow manage to find time to woof if the Leafs give just cause. And let's all try to keep people's names (especially mine) out of the subject headers. I, for one, neither seek nor enjoy such a cheap form of notoriety. One thing you can be assured of, however, is this: the Leafs are the best of all the teams in the league that have allowed 12 goals in 2 games. --
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How is that possible? He was on the Albuquerque Leftturns last year. How could you possibly know what team he would be on if Manny Lee was on his team last year. After all, Manny Lee wasn't on his team last year, so it's complete, unfounded speculation to state that if he was on the same team as Manny Lee last year, it would have been the team of the Toronto Blue Jays. Since he and Lee weren't on the same team, you cannot possibly objectively state what team they would have been on if they had both been on the same team.
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Here we are with the Sabres up 2-0 to the Bruins and the Sabres' farm team, the Rochester Amerks, on their way to the Calder Cup (urp!) and what kind of hockey coverage are we getting? The same Penguins/Devils every other day crap that everyone else gets. What's worse, the SportsChannel coverage of the Islanders appears to be blocked out, since we got CBA basketball last night, if you can believe it. I assume the Sabres are demanding the SC blackout, not ESPN, since we are, unbelievably, usually considered part of the Islanders territory (MSG coverage of the Rangers is blacked out here). This despite being a solid seven hours plus from Long Island. Does anyone know what GRC is doing, besides putting their satellite dish up their ass and screwing my reception of channels 8, 10, and 13? Did Empire demand a fortune for the games? What about the games on Fox37 (or whatever number it is there in Buffalo)? Has anyone phoned to complain (besides me)? George
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I would argue Gerald, that Bowman is the first "modern" coach. Bowman's Canadiens were the first NHL team to have a weight-room in the 70s. He is the first coach I have seen, that manipulates the press into spreading false game plan rumours. (During important games listen to the pre-game interview will Bowman and compare that to what is on the ice!) I agree Bowman is a master of the lineups. Remember last year in the SC when he benched Jagr only to set him free in OT. When Jagr banged in the winning goal I thought this was trademark Bowman and also a sign of a modern coach! I am left asking "What is a modern coach if not Bowman?"
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WIP is the REAL home of the Eagles. Merril Reese and the Birds on FM radio...what a joke. A "classic rock" station at that! Whats the sports world coming to?
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yet. I'm not bored either. Most people I know say that winning the second Cup was better than the first but to me nothing will ever top that first one. But I'm every bit as excited this year and I am experiencing that inner calm to which Susan originally referred. Inner calm is not boredom. As far as the arena in general being boring, well Richard's got that right. It's been that way all season. I attribute it to a lot of new fans who just don't have the same spirit and knowledge as long-time fans. At last Tuesday's game, I overheard a man express surprise that a goaltender can get an assist. Anyone who follows sports with regularity knows that anything can happen at any time. I'm confident in the Pens but I'm also not stupid enough to think for one minute that it's impossible for New Jersey to blow them out of this series. I doubt that will happen but it's possible. Bored? Uh-uh. Spoiled? Not in the least. Forgot what excitement is like? Living through that amazing streak wasn't exciting?! I don't take a darned thing for granted. God, look at Chicago... And I see no problem with quietly savoring all of this anyway. It isn't gonna last forever and I intend to enjoy it while I can.
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I'll go with Mark Grace, and in 2 years, Frank Thomas.
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Hey! What's this? We agree! No platoon advantage (Sabo vs. Samuel). Both players have a reputation of being excellent fastball hitters, and both have a reputation of being fooled too often with slow curves and change ups. Sabo has more power, and a little bit of a better batting eye. Samuel is noted as an agressive free-swinger. Sabo has more homerun power. Both players started the game hitting below .200. There may have been some game considerations that might have prompted Perez to want to reserve Samuel for use later. But the game *was* on the line, and Samuel never did get in. Given all of this, I don't see a lot to suggest pinch-hitting, nor do I see anything to suggest no pinch-hitting. There is, of course, the clutch-hitting information. But if that's useless... Then again. If it's not...
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On a cold, damp night last night at Tiger Stadium, Dave Wells, David Haas, Bob MacDonald, and Mike Henneman combined for a 3-1 victory over the Texas Rangers. Here are the highlights: R H E Texas 1 4 1 Detroit 3 5 0 Wells gets the win, he's now 3-0 with an ERA just under 1, and Henneman gets his third save in three chances. Ken Rogers started for the Rangers and gets the loss. He was relieved by Burns in the 7th. The Rangers got their only run on a solo home run by Dean Palmer in the 7th. The Tigers opened the scoring with an RBI single by Fryman in the 3rd, then took the lead for good in the bottom of the seventh when Whitaker greeted reliever Burns with an RBI double which scored Tettleton. Whitaker in turn crossed the plate on an RBI single by Phillips (who has been red hot) for the third Tiger run. This afternoon, it's another battle of southpaws, Bill Krueger for the Tigers vs. Craig Lefferts for the Rangers. --Randy
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Matt's problem is really more ability than attitude. It isn't that he's got it in his mind that he wants to swing away, but rather that he's (still) a total sucker for the curve ball. It looked for a while in 1990 that he was getting better but it's still his weak point. As to whether it does him any good to have Bonds behind him, the net.stat.mavens will probably tell you there's no reason that it should, but if he thinks it will, it might be a self-fulfilling prophecy. As to whether the Giants' lineup is optimal: who knows? Batting Bonds, the team's best hitter, fifth does seem to be odd, but the #1 and #2 hitters aren't exactly Messrs. OBA, so they aren't giving much up there. And although Clark isn't the overall offensive force that Bonds is, he seems better suited to the #3 spot. Assuming, of course, that he starts hitting one of these days...
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I am sure some bashers of Pens fans are pretty confused about the lack of any kind of posts about the recent Pens massacre of the Devils. Actually, I am bit puzzled too and a bit relieved. However, I am going to put an end to non-PIttsburghers' relief with a bit of praise for the Pens. Man, they are killing those Devils worse than I thought. Jagr just showed you why he is much better than his regular season stats. He is also a lot fo fun to watch in the playoffs. Bowman should let JAgr have a lot of fun in the next couple of games since the Pens are going to beat the pulp out of Jersey anyway. I was very disappointed not to see the Islanders lose the final regular season game. PENS RULE!!!
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You wouldn't have to put my name at the bottom if you simply appended a standard disclaimer that the opinions expressed in your petition in no way claim to represent the views of either rec.sport.hockey or the internet as a whole. You have surely seen these disclaimers appended to the postings of many who work for companies and post on the net. The disclaimers, clever though some of them may be, are there for a reason. --
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There's a blurb in the STATS Scoreboard about this, and though I don't have the book with me here, my memory is that the best at hitting sac flies were far below this 60% number.
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The Fat Lady is about to hit the first note...Okay,how about 3-0 deficits? The B's chances for a comeback are now less 1%(That's based on 7-game playoff format)... He got the start but the headlines on all Boston local TV sportscats said it all : "Sutter Blue It!". And he did. Harry Sinden's appearance outside of B's dressing room after Game 3 was a pathetic site. He said something really retarded to cover Sutter's behind,"This game is not about winning or losing..". Harry,check the schedule! Your team is in the playoffs and about to go on a long summer vacation on Sunday morning! Harry and his buttkisser Milbury will never admit that they screwed up in a major way when they brought in one of the dumbest people in the business,Brian Sutter. Sutter's playoff record as the head coach in St.Louis speaks for itself. The Blues really have a chance to advance to the second round this year...
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How much do you watch and follow hockey? The Pens and Bruins will be in the same division next season, which will give Neeley plenty of opportunity to whine about Ulf.
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I knew, despite the lack of a full game telecast last week, it was still too much hockey for Atlanta. Atlanta's ABC has declined to pick up any playoff games till May9. And even when they show the games on MAy9 and May16, they will continue to skip the first half hour of the telecast. I know this is still a better situation compared to rest of Georgia, Alabama, etc., but it is still pretty annoying. At least in PIttsburgh, we had a network preemptionchannel which showed all netwoork shows prempted by the local affiliate. I asked them what their problem was. I told them that a local 1.9 rating was not that bad considering it was the first NHL game shown after a long time without much promotion. Besides, their syndicated programming in the afternoon is usually low rated. So what did they have to lose by showing NHL playoffs. She told me that they had contractual obligations. I asked her if golf was shown oin ABC, would contractual obligations come in the way. And how come contractual obligations didn't come in the way of last week's telecast? She then couldn't give me a coherent answer. Also, I added that Atlanta had one of the highest neutral site game attendances and that the demographics were good. I think ABC and other networks should begin to tie their high rated programs like Roseanne in with thier sports programming. I hope that everyone in Atlanta who reads this bboard calls WSB 2 and complain bitterlyt about this. Tell them you will stop watching their news telecasts since they seem to be very unprofessional in handling this situation.
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the owners are whining about baseball not being popular among a large enough portion of the population, and have suggested various "remedies", such as shortening the game or trying to convince us that "smoke'embake'emdominatebysheerintimidation" is an accurate description of what is, essentially, a laid-back game. forget those lame ideas. here is my new and exciting two-point plan to generate interest in baseball among the masses. point one: sex. point two: violence. let's face it, sex and violence are the only things that sell in america. here's how we can implement them in the game: sex: cheerleaders, cheerleaders, and more cheerleaders. dancing on top of the dugouts. bringing hot dogs to the umps during the seventh inning stretch. running up and down the stands. (the south bend white sox actually do this). violence: baseball players are such utter wuss boys. the pitcher beans the batter, and both benches empty in what is called a "bench-clearing brawl". EVERYBODY JUST STANDS THERE AND LOOKS AT EACH OTHER. stand, stand, stand. look, look, look. ho, hum. then, the bullpens come running in. when they reach the "fight", they just stand there, too. anybody coming off the bench who does not throw at least one punch should be suspended and fined. further, the bullpens should fight it out in the outfield, so as not to waste time and energy running to the infield. football: sex, violence. basketball: sex, violence. hockey: violence. baseball: "da pastime of da nayshun!" - yawn.
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But, Gary, for certain sofa tubers like myself, this is an advantage. I can watch the Pirates on KBL, the Mets on WWOR, the Braves on TBS, and the mediots on ESPN at the same time, without missing anything. (If something impressive happens, I'll catch the replay :-) ). So, I see (essentially) 4 games in 3 hours, instead of 1 game in 2 hours. What a deal! (Insert smileys as desired...)
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Only problem is that Zombo was traded to St. Louis last year for goalie Vincent Riendeau. I think that while Chevy is not among the elite class of goalies, he is adequate given the offensive firepower of the Wings.
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Roger, you should check your facts before posting! The Kings have conceded 12 goals in 2 games.
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Good question! I kind of wondered about this myself. Just one thought I had on it - the Babe himself was IN "Pride of the Yankees", which made me think a) that version may be closer to the truth, and b) the Babe must have been a pretty good gut to be in the movie even though some of the scenes didn't make him look completely flattering.
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The original poster wanted to know how the Big Cat looked. I was also at the Saturday game in Montreal (Apr 17) that Rockies won 9-1. I haven't paid much attention to Gallarraga since he left the Expos but his stance seemed to be MUCH different. He stands more erect and very open, with his left foot pointing to 3rd base. I'm wondering if this is a recent change in stance for him? Andres had one glaring weakness as a hitter. He could always be fooled by a curve ball low and away. If this is indeed a new stance for him, maybe he is not being fooled as easily? As for his patience, Dennis Martinez definitely did not have his good stuff. If he was grooving pitches to Andres, you can hardly fault him for drilling them (which he did!). Does Andres generally start hot or cold? Does it take until May for most pitchers to have confidence in that curve ball low and away?
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Can anyone mail me the address of Houston's Mailing List? Thanks in advance. J. Scott Smithers smithers@dcseq.uscga.edu
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While watching the Penguins/Devils game last night, I saw the "slash" that Barrasso took on the neck. This brought to mind the goaltender who had his jugular vein cut by a skate. I think he was a Sabre, but I'm not positive. Does anyone remember/know his name? What has happened to him since? What about the player whose skate cut the goalie? Name? Info? Has this ever happened before in a hockey game? Thanks,
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Brad McCrimmon was the captain of the Flames when he was traded to Detroit following the 1989-90 season. This was during the off-season though. There's countless examples of captains being traded, I'm sure.
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Welcome aboard! And, since I haven't seen this yet this year (but all preceding years), let me say:
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Bleep! Bleep! Bleep! The Bruins lost AGAIN in O.T. I can't stand it! Aside from frustrated ravings, I must give Buffalo credit: they are making good on most of their scoring opportunities, and are playing great defense. Boston players can't seem to get control of the puck anywhere near the Buffalo net except for on rare occasions. The Buffalo defense is also doing an excellent job clearing away rebounds. Fuhr is playing great when the big save is needed but he's also getting plenty of help. Boston has been playing rather well (better than would be indicated by the series score of 3-0) but is lacking that extra drive in the earlier part of the game. As a result, Boston keeps leaving the ice at the end of the 1st period 2 goals down. This MUST stop if Boston is to have any hope of winning a single game (the outlook for the Bruin's advancement to the second round are quite bleak). IMHO, the Bruins NEED to score first. If they can do that, they have an excellent chance of winning, since they have outplayed the Sabres in the 2nd and 3rd periods. (The scary thing is that I'll be going to grad school in Buffalo next year. I'll never cheer for the Sabres... You can't convert me... ^:) MTM3
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It was unlikely, improbable. For the Bruins, it was the stuff of nightmares; for the Sabres, it was a taste of heaven. For the first time since 1983, the Sabres have won the first three games of a series. Last time was a three games to none victory in a best of five against the Canadiens. It takes a little more work this time. The Sabres seem ready to put in the extra work. On the heels of a shutout, one that took away Boston's home ice advantage, the Sabres came back with a four to three overtime win. It wasn't easy. It wasn't always pretty. It still worked. John Blue got the nod for Boston, supplanting Andy Moog as starting goaltender. Moog was pulled midway through game 2 on Tuesday. Buffalo started with a goal by Mogilny, his fourth of the playoffs, on the powerplay, with Boston's Don Sweeney and Gord Roberts in the box. LaFontaine and Hawerchuk had the assists. Goal number two was Khmylev's first of the playoffs, a pretty goal scored when the Sabres stole the puck and passed to an open and waiting Khmylev. Smehlik and Hannan assisted. Determined not to be shut out, Boston tallied on a shot by Ray Bourque on the powerplay, with Colin Patterson and Bob Sweeney both in the box. Period two was scoreless, a split of penalties between the two clubs. The third saw Boston's Smolinski get his first, courtesy of Oates. Buffalo resecured the lead two minutes later, from former Bruin Bob Sweeney (Khmylev and Carney). Neely tied the game 3/4 of the way through the third, sending it into overtime. Last year overtime meant a Bruin win. Last night, it spelled sweet revenge, as Buffalo scored with Ray Bourque in the penalty box, on a tip in by Khmylev (Hawerchuk and LaFontaine) a minute into overtime. Both teams finished with 34 shots. Power-play conversions--Boston 5-1. Buffalo 7-2. Referee--Rob Shick. Comments: Shick pocketed the whistle in the third, allowing a lot of clutching and grabbing. Buffalo's penalty killing unit was fantastic again. Mogilny was checking. Granted he missed once and instead flung his body into the boards, but checking like this is a novel idea to Mogilny. The crowd was unbelievable. I don't think I've ever heard a crowd that loud in the Aud for a Sabres game (remember, I was only five when they played for the cup. I don't remember it and no one took me to the games). Doug Bodger, in a postgame interview, noted that he tried to say something to Hawerchuk, but the crowd was too loud, even though he was shouting. It didn't seem to matter, as most of the Sabres and even Muckler said it was great. Yuri Khmylev didn't seem to realize that he was the game's third star and didn't skate out when his name was called. Sweeney (2) and Fuhr (1) each were out before Yuri made his appearance, sans jersey. When asked in an interview later whether he knew how big a goal that was, he responed yes (ok, it was through an interpreter and he said more than that, even more than the interpreter said, but I digress). The interviewer seemed to think just because he doesn't speak English, he must not understand playoffs. Uh-huh.
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Unfortunately, that is the way the league is heading... You can't fight, so the only way to retaliate against someone is with a cheap shot when the ref isn't looking. Ulf has brought this to a high level... Players stuck in the past (like Neely) who prefer fights to cheap shots are at a disadvantage in the new system. Lets face it, A cheap shot (like high sticking) is a very effective method... It is easier to hide from the refs, has a better chance of causing injury, and you can draw people into fights that way. I don't like it, but that's the way the league is going.
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This is not a trend. The Caps were done. Goneso in five games, and it saves us Caps fans a lot of pain. I mean, it would be more painful if the Caps were up 3-1, watching them tumbled when they need ONE MORE WIN to clinch the series. How many times have they done that in their history? 1985 up 2-0 in a five game series against the Isles, lost 3 straight 1987 up 3-1 against the Isles, lost 3 straight 1992 up 3-1 against the Pens, lost 3 straight In other words, when they were about to clinch with 3 games to go, they were a pitiful 2-9, the lone wins being 1) a sweep of Philly in 1984 2) the 1990 win against the Rangers in the Patrick finals, the ONLY TIME they managed to get out of the division. Actually, Saturday's blown lead wasn't anything new. We all know the Caps are famous lead blowers in crucial playoff games. Examples: 1) game 4 against the Isles, 1985, led 4-2 after two, lead series 2-1, gave up 4 goals in the 3rd period, including the game winning goal in the last minute. After that goal, Bobby Carpenter botched a penalty shot. Series tied 2-2, lost game 5 a few days later. 2) game 4 against the Rangers, 1986, led series 2-1, led by 2 in the 3rd period, blew it. Lost game in OT and three consecutive games. 3) game 6 against Pittsurgh, 1992, led series 3-2, led by 2 in 2nd period. Blew it and the series. 4) game 3 against Isles, 1993, series tied 1-1, led by 2 after 2. Blew it. 5) game 4 against Isles, 1993, trailed series 2-1, led by 3 in 2nd period. Blew it again. When they were leading by 3 in game 4, I said to myself: "if they blew this lead, the series is OVER". They have lost all the momemtum. The Islanders believe they can come back no matter what the score is. I am still waiting for a Cap goalie who can carry the team, who can completely shut down the opposition when they are hanging on their dear lives in a crucial game. Well, some teams such have it and some teams just don't. When the Caps were frustrated year in year out by the Islanders, I was thinking "wait until Potvin/Bossy/Trottier/Smith retire". Well, they retired (even though Trottier was still able to haunt the Caps on a Pens uniform), yet another generation of Islanders were still doing the same thing. Well, I guess it has nothing to do with the players.
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1993-1994 NHL Hockey Pool By Denis Papp and Chris Stoochnoff Rules: - Pick 17 players (3 LW, 3 C, 3 RW, 3 LD, 3 RD, 2 Goalies) You may pick ANY 17 players from any team. - Points for players are as follows: - 1 point per goal - 1 point per assist - 1 point per 10 PIM - Points for goalies are as follows: - 2 points per win - 1 point per tie - 1 point per assist - 1 point per 5 PIM - 2 points per shutout - 100 points per goal Entries: -Entries can be sent (by mail or ascii text file) to Chris Stoochnoff or Denis Papp on Hard Wired BBS (434-7996). -Due date for entries is the first day of regular season play. After that, no more entries will be accepted (unless it is just slightly late. If that is the case, there will be a small penalty applied to the team). -internet users can send email to dpapp@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Prizes: Prizes have not yet been considered. They could range from nothing to free time on Hard Wired BBS or even something else (if you have any suggestions... please feel free to put your two cents worth in). One idea is to get whoever is willing to to submit an equal amount of money, and that will go to be the prize money. The prize money will go to the top team who has submitted to the prize pool. A list of all people who submit money will be posted, as well as those who didnt - if it is done this way. Cost: The cost... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! There is absolutely no fee for this pool. Note: -If you have any questions, please feel free to send them to Denis Papp or myself (Chris Stoochnoff). The players positions (ie. Brett Hull is Right Wing) will be decided by the year book I will be using. So, if you do not know a certain players position, or you are not completely sure what position he plays, then ask me and I'll tell you. -And for a great time, call the Hard Wired BBS at (403)-434-7996 (this will be the location where the pool standings will be displayed). Internet Users:
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On the other hand, I'm hard pressed to think of any other real mistakes Fereirra made. Imagine indeed, but then again we have the benefit of hindsight. Let's say that in the view of the Sharks' upper management, the attempt to trade Kisio was a major factor in the decision to fire Feirerra. I'm inclined to take exactly the opposite view: they should have kept him...he's obviously the luckiest man in hockey! (Wonder what sacrifice he made to the Muse of Fax? (His job, I guess.)) have fun gak
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Devorski unfortunately helped to taint an otherwise brilliant display by MacLean. The Canucks tied up the Jets so tightly that I thought that they were mailing them. BTW, Greg...next time, don't fall asleep in geography class, it's pretty sad when a fellow in Norway can spell Winnipeg properly and a guy in North America can't. One more thing...how LONG has Vancouver been in the NHL? How many championships do they have? Oh yeah...and I CAN go to the Arena and see not one, not two, but *six* championship banners hanging from the rafters. 3 Stanley Cup banners, and 3 Avco Cup banners. My NHL guide says that Vancouver has won the Cup once (as many times as the rockin' town of Kenora has won it!)
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