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so all us hockey/automobile racing fans all know exactly where we stand ESPN delays the martinsville race by a day for the NFL draft ESPN shows baseball instead of the overtime of a NHL playoff game gimme a break, guys => >>Does anyone know why this race is tape delay? Especially until Monday??? => >Is this the ...
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I can't believe sh*t like this gets any attention in this group during the playoffs. Ali,you're a blabbering moron. At least you could've waited 'till the end of the playoffs to start your dumb letter campaign.
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[argument over "reasonable" players and umpires deleted] Yes, but the baseball rules say you can only appeal a ball and not a strike. There was no decision made by the umpire regarding an appeal. Once he called it a strike the call could not be changed. I thought that the umpire did the right thing.
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Alright, that's enough. I've suffered with all kinds of insults (as typical for the net), but give me a break. Galarraga is currently batting over .400 and you guys are complaining that he isn't drawing enough walks. What would he have to do to please you guys, bat 1.000? You can hardly claim that he is "hurting his ...
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2 simple reasons: (1) Batting Williams ahead of Bonds will create a Left(Clark), Right(Williams), Left(Bonds) situation in the middle of the batting order. This makes it tougher for opposing manager to change pitchers. (2) Having Bonds batting behind Williams means that Matt will get mo...
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This is the fifth request to find out about a Cardinals mailing list. It looks like one does not exist. If anyone has the initiative, creating a list might be a worthwhile activity.
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I know there's been a lot of talk about Jack Morris' horrible start, but what about Dennis Martinez. Last I checked he's 0-3 with 6+ ERA. Is the ageless wonder finally showing his age? Does he usually start off the season so slowly? I know he plans to start tonight. I hope he comes around.... I would appreciate a...
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I know it's very trendy nowadays to dump on Morris, but let's give credit where credit is due. It is doubtful that the blue jays would have won the AL east without Morris. Last year, when the team went 13-15 for the month of August, and all the other starters were being shelled, and Milwaukee was making a charge, M...
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I laugh at you now, and I will laugh at you again, equally publicly, when the Jays finish third due to the severe depletion of their talent. I think Bill James put it best (about Sparky Anderson, _Abstract_ 1983): "There are a million guys in this country with great attitudes, but there are only about five hundred w...
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Well, if SHIT means going to the Stanley Cup finals a couple years ago, I'd rather be shit than a leaf fan.
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There is a great book out called "They Also Served" which is about the ballplayers during WWII. There is some info on Berg in there. It also has info on Pete Gray (one armed outfielder) and other players of the era. Because of the draft many players during the war were those who were exempt from the draft for me...
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So what is your definition of "interfering with the fielder taking the throw"? The rule book certainly doesn't have a definiton or clarification, so it's possible to interpret the rule as saying that if the catcher has to alter his throw to avoid hitting the batter-runner, then again we have interference. You know, it...
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And not the only quality Mariner pitcher. I logged on expecting to see at least ONE congratulatory note for Chris Bosio's NO HITTER, but nary a peep. So I'll take this opportunity to note that the red feet are now 11-5 and slinking out of town without having scored a run in the last two games or even a hit in last...
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As if an aluminum stick being taken to Ulf's head is gonna solve the problem with violence in the sport of hockey. How the hell can you say the guy is a goon and justify it, with your back-assward mentality? Saying that hurting a player will solve anyone's problems is asinine. New rules and a new referee s...
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Rust Staub is NOT Jewish. In fact, I think his father was a minister.
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Well, as a hockey fan, I think it's terrible. It's one thing to say, "Hey, let's give a hockey team to cities that don't have one!" -- that's fine. It's entirely another to say, "Okay, let's take a team from a thriving hockey town and move it!" Of course, none of us will ever know the real inside story, but from w...
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: That's not inner calm. It's boredom, and it's being spoiled. The Arena's : been as quiet as a church on many nights this year; too many of us just : take winning for granted. It's been seemingly forever since the team : lost, and we've forgotten what it's like to feel real excitement and : surprise at victory. A...
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Ah, but the illusion in football is that there is always lots of action and a sense of urgency because of the game clock (not all the time, but it happens when there's less than 5 minutes to go quite often). This sense creates drama, even when there may not necessarily be any and that holds a viewer's attention. In...
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Here is something crossposted from the AHL mailing list: In a discussion between me and Chris Lerch, the subject of Springfield's 1st round upset of the Providence Bruins came up. Chris basically raised the possibility that the AHL hierarchy is biased in favor of the Indians. He noted that the offices for the lea...
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I'm familiar with the telethon situation (an individual on CompuServe was also victimized and was equally pissed). That was a local television station contract which could not be broken. For that item, I strongly suggest you call that affiliate and vent your anger on them. (Supposedly one station had told my friend...
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AHL PLAYOFF SCORES-- FIRST ROUND (home team in CAPS) ================================ GAMES PLAYED ON TUES, 4/20 ------------------------- Rochester 6 UTICA 4 Fredericton at Cape Breton SERIES STATI (plural of status? :) ---------------------------------- Adirondack leads CDI, 3-0 Providence tied w/Springfield, 2-2 B...
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M --> M --> Look for the Leafs, led by a healthy Doug Gilmour and a confidence-restored M --> Felix Potvin to do the Blues in 6. The Leafs will have 3 more games with the M --> Wings and that should give Joseph a few extra days to pass those horshoes. M --> HA! Roger the dodger is back! (on the bandwagon, that is....
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-=> Quoting Ohandley@betsy.gsfc.nasa. to All <=- Oh> From: ohandley@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov Oh> Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey Oh> Subject: Test...Please ignore Oh> Message-ID: <1993Apr21.180741@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov> Oh> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 22:07:41 GMT Oh> Reply-To: ohandley@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov Oh> This is a test...
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o any of you experts want to analyze Ron Gant? Is his early season slump because he is still swinging his bat the way he was last year (trying to hit to all fields, etc.) or has he changed his swing back to the "old" Gant and is just in a small early season slump. Is his spot int he lineup even secure, especially the ...
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"They're real and they're spectacular", the Blues shutout the Blackhawks in consecutive playoff games. If the Blues sweep the Hawks on Sunday, I will launch a broom onto the ice in the last seconds of the game. "Not that there's anything wrong with that." Curtis Joseph has been the "master of his own domain", and th...
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Some time back in this newsgroup, I seem to recall a thread about predicting the runs a given lineup of 9 batters could be expected to score given the appropriate statistical alphabet soup for these hitters (OBP, SLG, AVG, bat length, hat size, day-of-the-week, weather conditions, etc.). :-) Anyway, was I dreaming or...
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THIS IS WHAT I CAME UP WITH USING THE FINAL REGULAR SEASON STATS FOR THE 92/93, WHICH YOU CAN FIND IN THE APRIL 22, 1993 EDITION OF THE USA TODAY! TRY IT OUT AND SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH..... 1. ADAM OATES C BRUINS 145 PTS 2. TEEMU SELANNE RW JETS 136 PTS 3. ALEXANDER MOGILNY RW ...
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Heh... Try the rec.autos.sport FAQ. They are always calling ESPN to complain. I'm sure you could find the number for ABC there too, as many west-coast viewers were compaining about how something as boring as hockey cut into the Long Beach GP. =) Were you (and several of the other people here it seems) asleep the da...
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With the recent demise of the Chicago Blawkhawks (much to my delight) I noticed their 8 (?) game playoff losing streak (4 to the Pens last year, and now 4 to the Blues) and I am wondering what the NHL record for consecutive losses is, if there even is one... I'm pretty sure that the Hawks have at least a 9 game losing...
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to take this to its, er, "logical" conclusion, it is impossible to ascertain whether or not i am a better hitter than roberto alomar, or a better pitcher than juan guzman, or a better center fielder than devon white. after all, if i were on the blue jays, can you really prove that they wouldn't have won the world ser...
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No, Boston probably won't go down easy, but if the Sabres hadn't won game one Buffalo would have been out in four. And what problem are you having with playoff games here in Buffalo???!!!??? There's the Sabres-Bruins, Quebec-Montreal, and whatever ESPN and ABC show, and on opposite nights there's Toronto-Detroit and ...
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MLB Standings and Scores for Wednesday, April 21st, 1993 (including yesterday's games) NATIONAL WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road San Francisco Giants 09 05 .643 -- 8-2 Won 2 05-02 04-03 Houston Astros 07 06 .538 1.5 7-3 Lo...
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How about changing team names! Post your choices! Here I'll start: How about the Baltimore Baseblazers San Francisco Quakes
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His performance at the plate may well be from the shoulder injury received when he ran into the wall making a catch in the Cincy series. It may also be him pressing a little. As for the baserunning, it does not appear to be just Lankford. Dent made the bad call sending Lankford in the Sunday night game against Cincy ...
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TRIVIA TIME!!! OK, We all know that Dave "My Batting Average is Down in the" Valle caught Chris Bosio's no hitter last night (and is batting over .300, BTW). Here is the question: Who caught Randy Johnson's no-hitter in June of 1990. (Hint: Not Dave Valle :-))
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Well, Your Majesty, ;^), couldn't you just picture it? Cherry starts doing his first post-game interview with Barrasso; Tommy gives him that little look (like somebody crapped on his shoe) and then proceeds to give Don a tonsilectomy with his Sher-Wood. Now that you could put on pay-per-view! Hope you had a good l...
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Like Clinton and Reno, I accept full responsibility for this senseless disaster. My wife and I picked this game to go to and thus caused the return of the pre-season-projected Sox offense. Like all no-no's Bosio was good, lucky (hard grounder by Vaughn off T. Martinez' glove but straight to Boone who threw to Bosio ...
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Subject sez it... Wondering if either team are in town that weekend (5-30/5-31). I can probably get Phillies tix, as the Vet can hold a bunch (and I hope they're still in 1st but it's late may, and...). Camden Yards is a problem - is there any way of getting in the park w/o an SRO ticket? Any advice if there at hom...
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NOTE: Saturday, April 20th's scores should be sent out by this coming Friday. MLB Standings and Scores for Tuesday, April 20th, 1993 (including yesterday's games) NATIONAL WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road San Francisco Giants 08 05 .615 -- 7-3 ...
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Oh, yea, and Chris Bosio pitched a NO-HITTER. One over the minimum, two bases on ball in the first inning, one runner left, 95 pitches. I listened to the game on radio and listening to Dave Niehaus call the game was a real treat (as long as they keep Ron Fairly quite, I doubt if anyone is better than Niehaus -- but t...
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We cannot isolate completely, Roger, but we can make a pretty good estimate. I won't claim to split hairs and say that we can really measure who was better, Robby Alomar or Carlos Baerga, last year; the difference is too close to call. But Larkin and Lee? Clemens and Morris? The differences are too great there. In yo...
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Tonight will see the Toronto Maple Leafs, as some have guessed, come out hitting! The "Buds" will grind Detroit into the ground and walk away with home ice advantage for the remainder of the series... which given a shift to Toronto, will not last long. (Keep in mind this is only a predicition). Wendall will have...
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It took three days to get to us, but I'll try anyway as I naturally haven't seen the answer. SAFE. The correct call is "Infield Fly, (batter out) if fair". Runners may advance at own risk. (Gotta tag up if caught, etc.) It is not a force, and the pop was not caught, so regardless of whether the SS tags 3B or 2B (it ...
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If my powerplay was as bad as Montreal's, I'd be thanking Stewart for calling as few penalties as possible. Quebec's powerplay is lethal and it is to their advantage to have a penalty-filled game where they can clean up with their superior powerplay. Montreal really lost that game (and game 2) because Patrick Roy is...
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Actually, I was angry when they went away from the Pens game. Being a Pens fan in central Virginia is kinda tough. I only get to see them on ESPN, and when they play the Caps, cause we're close enough to DC to get all the Caps games, so when ESPN switched to the Caps, . . . AAAGGGHHH!
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I'm glad Grant Fuhr will never be as over-confident after two wins as you are...it takes four wins to defeat an opponent...each tougher to obtain than the previous one. Buffalo is off to a good start... Fuhr is proving the Fuhr-bashers wrong, but Boston is an awfully good team.
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As the Rangers found out in last year's playoffs, it's too late to try line-juggling at this point. gld
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My father is a huge Tiger fan, and I am a loyal Blue Jay fan, who endured the collapse of 87, the heartbreak of 85. I don't have the stat book, so let's throw them out. First of all, Morris in his heyday (81-88) vs Clemens (86-present). How many Cy Youngs does Morris have? How many Cy youngs does Clemens have? B...
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Just some thoughts: I don't usually like to post simply to make fun of a player, but this time I couldn't resist. During the Pens-Devils game last night, second period, I think Kevin Stevens was in the penalty box, Nicholls punched Kjell Samuellson in the face, then raised his stick like a two handed sword to defend ...
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I don't know if anyone has posted a message like this yet, but i'm getting really sick of espn showing the last minute of a hockey game, in which the score was just tied, and then cutting out and saying "sorry we can't show you this we have to show baseball tonight" (not even a game. a friggin HIGHLIGHT show). gee, sur...
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[...] Tim Wallach can be explained with the rabbitball. Deion can be explained as "learning how to play the game". I'm not betting that Deion will be able to play as well as last year, but I think the odds of Deion playing as well or better than he did last year are better than the odds of Otis Nixon doing the same...
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OK, here is my try: Lukko, Finland (look at the colors of his mask) ex-JyPHT, Finland, now in Germany Excellent defenseman HIFK, Finland Tappara, Finland HPK, Finland Jokerit, Finland HPK, Finland JyPHT, Fi...
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-=> Quoting The Logistician to All <=- TL> I am in need of all of the players wearing #77 in the NHL. I know now TL> only of one, Ray Borque for the Bruins. Any help would be greatly TL> appreciated. TL> Thanx. Hi there Logistician, is not Paul Coffey wearing # 77 for the Detroit Red Wings? ...
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But I have to agree.. Boston is a good team.. But streaky... They put together a great streak to capture first place in the Adams, but for what? They have lost the home ice advantage for at least the first round, and might not make it out of it. I would love to see the Sabres win the first round, even though I bet ...
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: >|> >(2) Having Bonds batting behind Williams means that Matt will get : >|> > more good pitches to hit. This is important since he struggles : >|> > so much with breaking balls. Opposing pitchers don't want to : >|> > walk Williams to get to Bonds. : > : >I have to wonder if this "good hitter behi...
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It's me again!
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Just wanted to let all the people who e-mailed me about a possible Cardinals mailing list that I wasn't able to get the OK to host the list here so someone else will have to do it. :-( Many thanks to Bob Netherton for his helpful info.
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Jason Lee asks: You must have heard wrong. His arm is still sore. He hasn't gone on the DL, but he may. Managmenet is treating him as a day-to-day situation. His doctors thought that he was ready, and they had him throw in Colorado, but his arm wasn't up to the strain. He is throwing every day, but he's just no...
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The best one I saw last year was Willie McGee off Matthews (I think?) in Phillie. A fierce line drive that was still rising when it hit thE second deck facade at the Vet. Willie McGee had one homerun last year.
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Hey guys, who is this Jack Morris fella ?????? ONLY JOKING !!!!! But try to lighten up will ya ? The season's only just started and everyone's apoplectic. If all you statheads out there are trying to justify how Morris is doing at the moment, just remember that we're talking about a very small sam...
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My mistake.
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But of course, it is expected that umpires will show up players. Don't get me wrong, I understand the nature of the game, but I just believe that a little ego-ectomy for the umpires would make the game much better. Ted -- "Social nags and body bags, make you dead, what a drag drag drag." -- Saigon Kick, body bag...
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At the time I didn't really want the Sox to sign either. I was more than a little worried about Viola's elbow. But you *surely* remember my shout of relief when, after a week of rumors that Morris was coming to the Red Sox, they ended up with Viola instead. Now I'm even happier. Viola seems to have rebounded nicel...
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Yep. And the Ks don't have to denote a slow game, either. Last night, Sid Fernandez was mowing the Giants hitters down (14 Ks in 8 innings), yet the first 7 1/2 innings of the game were quite brisk. He also threw 119 pitches, leading me to believe it isn't just the number of pitches that determines the length of a...
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Is there a Chicago Cubs mailing list?? If so, I'd like to join. Any help appreciated....
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Wait a minute. If I read the rules right. A stike is ANY portion of the ball over ANY portion of the plate. Given that the ball is ~ 2.9 "" in diameter. This sez that the zone width is ~= 17 + (2 * 2.9) or 22.8 "" . While this is still less than the 23 " number given. I can forgive any UMP for misjudging ....
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only appreciated. Pierre Turgeon, formely of the Sabres and now of the Isles wears #77 (at least he did in Buffalo ...)
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Viola has only played in the NL with the Mets -- not possible for him to have defeated or lost to every team. Ditto for Tanana who was mentioned in a previous post. I don't remember if Seaver managed to get a win against the White Sox in his brief sojourn with Boston so I'd say the other pitcher to defeat every t...
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True. William "Dummy" Hoy was baseball's first deaf player. He played in the bigs from 1888 through 1903 for several teams, including the White Sox and Reds. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Curran Mead Data Central brian@meaddata.c...
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There is a fine line between "getting players' input" and "knuckling under to players' demands." A manager, much like a military officer, needs to have his (her) players' complete obedience and respect during a game. After the game, it's no big deal, but when there is no time to do more than react, players must tr...
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Here are the ones I can remember offhand: KDKA 1020 AM Pittsburgh Penguins WABC 770 AM New Jersey Devils WBBM 780 AM Chicago Blackhawks WJM (?) 720 AM Detroit Redwings KMOX 1120 AM St. Louis Blues Are the Flyers on 1210? That's all I can think of.
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Here's a summary of Don Cherry's Coach's Corner from April 21, 1993. The game being broadcast in my region was LA and Calgary, although I think it was filmed during the Toronto-Detroit game that night. (Warning... Anti-fighting people may want to skip this post.) Topics ------ Don's Tie, Grant Fuhr, Penalties, Wings...
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But why McGwire, and not Carter? I can see some justification for Bonds or Thomas, because they tend to have higher batting averages, but the major difference I see between McGwire and Carter is that Carter doesn't draw walks. Why aren't pitchers afraid to throw strikes to Carter?
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I beg to differ, he had a couple 3 hit games after he came back. He did get caught stealing though. He also missed sunday's game. Did he play tonight? If not, I'm worried. He's on my team too.
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Hey folks, Saw the Giants play ball at the 'Stick Saturday, April 17. It was the game where Pendelton broke up the scoreless tie in the ninth with a two-out, two-run homer to right to win it. (It wasn't the game where the fans threw the give-away "fotoballs" onto the field in response to the homer -- too bad, huh?)...
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There was a discussion about how real fans were ones who respect their teams no matter ow bad they are. That's bullshit. Anyone who would follow the Pens or the Pirates in parts of the early eighties on a devoted basis are losers. It's OK to follow and be concerned about your home team. But to give them respect even w...
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He dimmagio's. Henderson's stat's are probably closer to DiMaggio's than you think.
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Well, on the contrary, I thought Dave was rather taken with her and her accent..."(H)ockey is my passion"...
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I have to agree wholeheartedly with this view. I don't like to see stickwork, but you have to clear players away from in front. My personal favorite move (I'm a goalie too) is to give the offeding player a good whack on the back of their skates when the ref isn't looking. Makes 'em go down like a ton of bricks, but ...
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The answer is in the FAQ for this group. nough said.
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I was in fact going to suggest that Roger take his way of discussion over to r.s.football.pro. There this kind of hormone-only reasoning is the standard. Being he canadian, and hockey what it is, I would have suggested that r.s.h would work too. It is important in a thread that everyone involved use the same body par...
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: Bowman is the genius...Johnson isn't. Bowman is a great coach...Johnson, : a very good one. However, Bowman is really not a modern coach, and : Patrick's solution of having him only run the team on game days, and : delegate most of the day-to-day responsibity to the assistants is : a shrewd managerial decision on ...
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So if Potvin can pound on Dino, what happens when Dino pounds on him? If Dino gets his legs slashed, can he slash Potvin in return? This year at a UM-LSSU hockey game, a UM player was called for a slash when he hit the goalie's glove with his stick. Is that slashing, while hitting someone's ankles isn't? How do th...
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To all the Braves doubters: Don't worry. The bats will come alive, and the Braves will come around. The pitching is solid, and as long the Braves don't have serious injuries to the starting rotation, they'll continue to pitch well. Heck, with the five starters on the Braves rotation, they could even sustain an injur...
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I saw Messier and Leetch shooting at a camera on Letterman(?). I could have been any show though, since I watch NONE of those late night shows very regularly. -John Santore Philadelphia Flyers in '93-'94! ============================================================================= ____________________ ...
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Does anyone know the status of Jeffries or Arocha?
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As will I, and the Ultimate Lurker.
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Last night, Boston Red Sox win its 11 games of 14 games by beating Seattle 5-2. Roger Clemson pitch not so dominate. He walked at least 6 man in first 6 inns. But Valetin and Greenwell hit homeruns and Red Sox prevail.
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Gee, they lost to St. Louis twice this year. Maybe you should have your eyes checked. 8^) Go Blues....the Rodney Dangerfield team....They get no respect....except in Chicago mabee...
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Anyone have any idea how to get Japanese League stats regularly in the US? - matt wall@cc.swarthmore.edu Matt Wall * wall@cc.swarthmore.edu * Hey, I gotta job here, OK?
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Be patient. He has a sore shoulder from crashing into the wall. The Cards will give him all the time he needs to come around. He is their full time centerfielder. He will not however steal as often this year as he is hitting clean-up.
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[...] Actually, according to the DA information posted by Sherri, Boggs is superior defensively to have. Here's their Defensive Averages for the last five years: [compared to average at 3b, AL] 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 Boggs .643[+2] .659[+47] .550[-54] .653[+33] ...
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I really don't want to get into a DidSo-DidNot debate with you. But this is somewhat at the heart of our disagreement. I did not say, nor did I imply, that I could predict the future. You have inferred that my comments meant this, and you have based your rebuttal of my comments on the fact that statistical studies...
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Teemu Selanne had 3 goals, Keith Tkachuk had one, and Luciano Borsato scored a rare Jets shorthanded goal as the Jets held on to beat the Canucks 5-4, and close the series to 2-1. Trevor Linden and Pavel Bure had two goals each for the Canucks in a losing cause. Selanne came out of a two game goal scoring slump, scor...
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^^^^^^^^^^ O.K. people, so it's not tied. I meant leads 2-1........ Shoot me if you must. -JPC --
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Well, when you say, without Morris, you have to mention an assumed replacement. If the alternative to Morris was letting Cito Gaston soft-toss the ball underhand to the opposition every 5 days, then of course the Blue Jays wouldn't have won without Morris. If the alternative was replacement level, then I think i...
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