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That operation was done by a small Jewish fraction BEFORE the state even existed and, as far as I remember, was disaproved by most of the Jews. Saying that "He was killed by the Israelis" is plain wrong because there wasn't "Israel" at the time. And as far as the Jews liked the idea of having part of the land you c...
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[Motor-Voter stuff] Well, there does have to be a line. And to be honest, extending voter registration to DMVs is hardly analogous to having only one place for registration in Alaska and opening a new one in Atlanta. More is not always better once you've passed a certain point. I thought the Motor V...
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THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary ______________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release April 20, 1993 REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT IN PHOTO OPPORTUNITY WITH VACLAV HAVEL ...
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Are you for real? People dumb enough to give their money and possessions to a guy who says he's jesus deserve all they get Anyway, he killed a few feds He's not the goddam hero here He's dead an' i'm happy!!!!!
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# # Q: When an Israeli pilot is bombing school children in Lebanon gets # shot down, and crashes head-first, what's the last thing that # goes into his mind (head)? # # A: His butt hole. Now this HAS to count as one of the most original and constructive contributions yet on tpm. All in all, well wort...
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Having watched most of the televised trial, I can answer that when such statements were made by the defense atty, the prosecutor did object, and the judge tended to sustain the ones that were obviously falling under the "self-incrimination" type of objection. There was quite a bit of meta-discussion during the trial...
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Frank Benson: Another spelling flame? Aren't you the guy who threatens people on talk.politics.guns? 2nd amendment yea, 1st amendment nay.
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# #Actually, I bet you more gay/bi men are as not as promiscuous as gay men, # #because more of them could have the "option" of living a straight life, and # #with social pressures, probably would at least try. # # Geez, where have you been, Ryan? I proposed this theory *months* # ago. Let's take it one step fu...
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: In article <1r6p8oINN8hi@clem.handheld.com>, jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De : > : > I have not made up my mind about Waco, but there sure seems to be a group of : > devoted government following fanatics willing to believe whatever that : > government wants to tell them, without any shred of doubt, nor thought of...
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I would change one of the many parts that define my cultural identity. If I loose a leg, it might change my personality, but I do not stop being a human being. Even more, when someone gets a baboon heart, that person is still human. Not really. That is what differenciates agnostics from atheists. As an atheist, I d...
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Dirty Cosar pig has been doing just that for a long, long time. Source: "Ahmet Cosar said to have been part of 1992 Terror Attack at MacDonalds in Munich," The Fuckersville Reporter, February 7, 1993, p. 1. "Le Merde, the influential Anatolia daily, based on unidentified sources, claimed last week that Ahmet Cosar,...
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* The news statement was that there was $200,000 worth of "firearms and ammunition (no mention of "assault weapons")" on the premises, not that Koresh had purchased them (what would his crime be if he had?). This averages to about $2000 per person, not an astronomical number. * We don't know that the...
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-> > I think he's talking about Kinsey who came up with the 10% -> >statistic used heavily by gay groups to push their political agenda. -> >Kinsey's work has often been accused of lacking a strong scientific -> >backbone. -> -> I really must defend my man Alfred. Not that this poster was really -> to be taken seri...
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]Furthermore, in response to an earlier message, the 1992 U.S. est. output of ]sulfur dioxide (20 mill. tons) was equivalent to the entire output by the recent ]eruption of Mt. Pinautubo(Sp.). Currently world carbon dioxide levels set at approx. ]360 ppm, in the past 120,000 years it has never gone above 280 (this in...
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It has nothing to do with how long they have been voting, as much as HOW they have been voting. Pick up a list of the Labor parties proposals for MK prior to the election and pay attention to the order. Correlate this with the number of Arab party members eligible to vote in party elections. Further correlate this w...
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Try coming up with your own definition of any or all "self-hating" peoples. To me, any who reject their culture to the point where they *only* see the absolute negatives of that culture (generally, or regarding a particular event) and accept *only* those views purely opposing aspects of that culture (thus, selective ...
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After seeing William Sessions on television, explaining the great lengths to which the FBI went to determine the suicidal tendancies of David Koresh, I got the very unpleasent feeling that Koresh had manipulated the FBI's perceptions much the way he manipulated his own followers. Maybe I was manipulated by the news ...
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I don't remember the article that you removed so I can't comment on it. What I can comment on though is your response. Do you really believe that what you wrote is sufficient to refute the article? Do have any facts in addition to your opinion?
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> Lines: 13 > NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu > > > > >Our little Goebbels, to those who forgot, is talking about an alleged > >"infection" of "fine Egyptian men", by a "Mossad agent caught spying > >with her father in Egypt". As noted before, the women is a Muslim > >Israeli, she was not a spy, and she didn...
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Poor 'Poly'. I see you're preparing the groundwork for yet another retreat from your 'Arromdian-ASALA/SDPA/ARF' claims. Just love it. If that does ever happen, look out the window and see if there is a non-fascist/Nazi x-Soviet Armenian Government in the East. By the way, your ignorance on the Armenian genocide ...
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And the best evidence you can find is second hand hearsay from an unnamed source? You may indeed be confusing *some* Muslims with Nazi Armenians. Altogether 30,000 Nazi Armenians served in various units in the German Wehrmacht, according to Ara J. Berkian. 14,000 in predominantly Armenian army units, 6,000 in Germ...
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of thier Eloquently, if somewhat shrilly, put. Well, why not? You have a way with words. And you sure get shrill on cue. Jim -- jmd@handheld.com
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********************************************************************* That's cool; I wish everyone had the smae kind of names; the world would certainly be a better place!!
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What does this bill do? McD
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From article <strnlghtC5tr6D.n3n@netcom.com>, by strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight): "Well Regulated", at the time of its writing and in the context of the Second Amendment, means "Properly trained and equipped." It modern language it would read: A properly trained and equipped militia, being necessary to the ...
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I have to say I think this is the first time there has been something posted that opposed me without making personal insults. Congradulations tim. I think the other people answered you on most of the factual parts(esp. about the internal conflicts policy). Israel very often gets away with more than most other nation...
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I am seeking any press references to how much tax Perot pays in income taxes. I've heard the figure of 7 percent, since he gets most of his his income from federal and municipal bond interest. Anybody read a reliable report somewhere? Thanks!
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Yeah! That's it! :) You've really outdone yourself this time Nick... Don't forget the "Davidian Muslims"... :) Islam is not a race. It's a religion. You can be white, black, Fijian or Alaskan. I guess you didn't absorb too much of the Malcolm X interest circulating. You see, the whole point of Islam is that it...
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Imagine, you have been under seige for almost two months by an enemy which you believe wants to kill you. Suddenly, they pump tear gas into your building and punch holes in it with tanks. Then a fire breaks out. Do you run outside to be slaughtered, or stay and face your fate. Check Ethiopia vs. Italy in WWII for ...
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: : When you force people to associate with others against their will, : yes. : : People are *forced* into the USA armed forces? They were in the recent past, maybe someone knows for certain if the usa has decided if it wants a conscript army (as they sent into south east asia) or a volenteer one? --
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BIGOTRY" Biden spoke well. Then there was John Major, the architect of the betrayal of Bosnian Muslims to genocide. He basically has given yet another green light to HVO Ustashe and Mladic-Chetnik serial killers, rapists, and plunderers to continue their genocide against Bosnian Muslims. But Major met with Mr. Ru...
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This is quite corect, but a bullet hitting a burned body with little energy will show virtually no deformation, ie a hollow point probably would not expand, an FMJ would be "pristene". Also the bullets will not be marked with the lands ang grooves of a barrel, because they didn't come out of one. A good pathologist ...
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I keep hearing people say this. It assumes that we, at some point, had a choice at the ballot box: "Vote yes or no I want the FBI and BATF to become latter-day Gestapos". That just isn't so. The process is far more complex. We do not have direct control over the bureaucracy. When we evaluate our representative...
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The Denver Post (supposed voice of the supposed Rocky Mountain Empire) ran the following in the 'Firearms, Supplies' classified heading on Friday, 23 April 1993. If you have an opinion about their new found wisdom, I am told that the person to speak with is one Mr. Walters, (303)820-1267. Notice The Denver Post w...
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I'm going to be mixing together here stuff from two of Ted Frank's articles, <1993Apr15.143623.25813@midway.uchicago.edu> (which was a response to me) and <1993Apr16.011455.20518@midway.uchicago.edu> (a response to Tim Smith)... Eminent domain is a state-mandated transaction in which one party is required to sell a p...
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From article <C5sEGz.Mwr@dscomsa.desy.de>, by hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker): [stuff about British cult members deleted] They were using 50 caliber ammunition not 50mm ammo. 50mm would be 5cm; a shell of this size would be larger than a lot of cannon shells. Snipers could have screened the people trying...
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If true, and if gays were the same as straights except for sexual preference, I would imagine that gays would have much less sex than straights because the available pool for dates is less than one-tenth what it is for straights. Somebody correct (flame) me please!
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This is not a "studies", but a study. Other studies, including the just-published "Janus Report", give very different figures. The Janus Report figures are not too different than Kinsey: 9% homosexual men, and 4% bisexual men. Don't be stupid. The Kinsey report is one study, so it can't be "all over the map" a...
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Flash over is a frequent occurrence with indoor fires. A fire will start small and in one location and heat the air. The temperature in the room builds up and then everything inflammable in the room catches fire at once. This may have occurred in the BD compound, I have heard reports that the windows were covered w...
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Please cite specific examples where an Arab party member was rejected while a Jewish party member was accepted. If you examine these I am sure you will discover that the Arab party member did not have the power base that his Jewish counterpart had. The party structure in Israel has changed quite a bit insofar as kne...
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If we can't avoid throwing out gut-reactions to what we see as "extremist" views here in the newsgroup, we're certainly not going to be any better at it in the real world. Hey, it easy here. After reading the offending post, we can step back, take some deep breathing exercises, have a gallon of ice cream (or sex, whic...
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Tsiel, I would contend that there was shelling from both sides of the border, starting from the early 70's. Certainly the PLO did shell Northern Israel from the Arqoub region, but Israel did much more shelling destroying several South Lebanese villages. At the very least we can say that both sides exchanged shelli...
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True. Today's Boston Globe interviewed a former Unification Church leader who is now a consultant on cults. He said the FBI's approach was totally wrong. He said they should have tried to break down the BD's loyalty to Koresh through psychological means. Koresh's whole theology was based on an approach...
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This might be illegal without a very specific Presidential declaration or even a change in law. In general (sic), U.S. military troops are not permitted to be used for domestic policing operations.
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In Turkish Genocide Apology <9304261739@zuma.UUCP> as scribed by its servile dolt sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) we read a response to article <1993Apr26. 175246.24412@colorado.edu> perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (Eric S. Perlman) who [EP] This has been discussed before, by several people, on this net. The [EP] statement is...
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Tim> NNTP-Posting-Host: nwfocus.wa.com Tim> I saw the film on CNN *as* it happend. It was clear from that Tim> tape that the fire started in ONE location. Right where the Tim> tank was attacking, and then had pulled back. There were not Tim> several spots where the fire started, it started in one Tim> location and wa...
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mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes, (missing the entire point of my post): No joke. No,_you_jumped to_that_conclusion. It's actually an argument as to how to accomplish the societal good of discouraging drug use without violating individual rights. No. _You_missed the point. The point is, the...
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Oboy, this is exciting. First you discuss your non-existent literature tastes, then your fantasies, and now your choices of historical revisionism. Are you related to 'Arromdians' of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle? The Agreement on the Exchange of Minorities uses the term 'Turks,' which demon...
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Do we want to 'create jobs'? or do we want jobs created that are productive in our supply/demand economy? If your answer is the former then we can just round up all jobless people and pay them to build sandcastles in the desert. If you answer the latter then I fail to see how another bureaucracy produces anyt...
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Here is a press release from the American Federation of Teachers. HHS Secretary Shalala to Address AFT's Paraprofessional and School-Related Personnel Conference To: National and Assignment desks, Education Writer Contact: Jamie Horwitz of American Federation of Teachers, 202-879-4447 News Advisory: ...
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...which would make the number 15%, right Clayton?
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What a lie..!!?? Ask the victims of the Nazis. Don't take the Bosnian muslims' word for it. Ask the Holoucost survivors who helped them, you will hear that the Bosnian muslims (among others) helped them. I also do object to the term ethnic cleansing, since what is happening in B...
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> This is actually the law that David Irving > will hopefully be found guilty under due to his denial of the Holocaust. > It's too bad that this useless "Centre for Policy Research" isn't in Canada. > It'd set a nice precedent to how the law applies in Cyberspace. > > Steve Well canada is wr...
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(1) You know ed,... You're right! Andi shouldn't be comparing Israel to the Nazis. The Israelis are much worse than the Nazis ever were anyway. The Nazis did a lot of good for Germany, and they would have succeeded if it weren't for the damn Jews. The Holocaust never happened anyway. Ample evi...
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It is Clinton's initiative now. He is pushing it hard Aren't the liberals supposed to be concerned about privacy rights? If you want to know more about the wiretapping initiative, read "1984" - it's in there, installed in every bedroom. -- ------------------------------------------------------...
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There are doubts about it. Why don't you define what self-hating Jew means? I found the idea itself of being a self-hating Jew to be one of those rediculous things that people repeat and repeat because it seems to have a meaning when in fact it has none. I hope you can come up with a definition in itself and not somet...
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It was filmed the day of the first assault. The BDs clearly allowed the BATF agents who were shot and wounded to leave the compound. The lesson, I suppose is that you should keep shooting untill ALL the pigs are dead and then get the fuck outa dodge. Never give a pig an even break.
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While I wouldn't be too terribly impressed with anybody who got to be paranoid based on either Usenet in general or Phill Hallam-Baker's comments in general, you'd be surprised. For most people, if you accuse them of something long enough and loud enough, to enough people, they start to ask why th...
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Peter Nelson posted a very eloquent response to this point in talk.politics.misc, so I need not consume more bandwidth here. What I meant, if it was not clear, was the intersection set of liberal and libertarian philosophies of "natural rights" and how the government (and Constitutional interpretation in particula...
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They police did not beat King when he was on the ground. They beat him when he was on his knees trying to get back up. If you had watche d the entire video you would have seen this. If you think this is true, much less relevant, than you are in sadder shape than I thought.
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If you won't believe anything the government says, and the press is not reliable according to the same logic, then what do you base your statements on? Wild speculation laced with a healthy dose of paranoia?
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If Croats are now divided, it is because Croatia seceded from Yugoslavia. Croats in Croatia, B-H, and Serbia were in *one* country--Yugoslavia-- until they divided themselves. If Muslims are now divided, it is because B-H seceded from Yugoslavia. Muslims in Croatia, B-H, and Serbia were in *one* country--Yugoslavi...
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Your ignorance is hardly characteristic of most '*ians'. Sarkis Atamian explains in his book called 'The Armenian Community, New York 1955, Philosophical Library' that, according to historians, original fatherland of the Armenians was in Thessaly, Greece. Armenian invaders burned and sacked the fatherland of Ura...
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This is quite a misrepresentation. After WWI, many Bosnian Muslims were killed and their land taken over by Serbs, and the motive was plunder, not some fictitious "supression of rebellion." Even earlier, one can point to the destruction of mosques in Serbia itself and expulsion of Muslims. Here is what Dr. Vaso Cub...
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So far, you have presented your opinions as opposed to mine. I would hardly take them as facts. I could give you hundreds of words in my mother tongue (Spanish), that are comonly use and you will never find in a dictionary. Even more, I could show you a lot of meanings that words in Spanish have different from tho...
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Owwww!! Mr. Jefferson would be clearly disappointed in your designation of him as author of the bill of rights. And your reference to those in Israel was condesceding and inappropriate. The Declaratio of Independence of 1776 was written by Thomas Jefferson. In 1787, the Constitution was drafted by 55 men in Philade...
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-> >-> -> >-> For those who still doubt what is going on, this is -> >-> from the still uncensored AP wire: -> >-> -> >-> Two journalists from Houston arrested at gun-point and -> >-> cuffed and jailed for taking pictures of the compound today. -> >-> Later released on bail, but cameras and film were confiscated. -> ...
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This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have heard from the Europeans. "Let's let the Serbs massacre, rape, and ethnically clean 100,000 Bosnians because we don't want our pretty blue berets there to get scratched". Well, I say, get them the hell out of there if you're worried for them, but don't deny Bosnia...
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THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary ______________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release April 20, 1993 REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT IN QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH THE PRESS ...
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Proving once again that Brett has a major thinking problem... Two groups that the government insure are the elderly and the "medically an needy" (those who have impoverished themselves through spending for medical care). The typical elderly person spends 3.5 times what a person under age 65. The typical medically n...
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I just called Texas' legislative bill tracking service and found out that HB 1776 (Concealed Carry) is scheduled for a floor vote TODAY! Let those phone calls roll in. Daryl
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The above explained propaganda which certainly has nothing to do with the true facts is also today the main source of ASALA/SDPA/ARF terrorists' illegal activities that still try to make money out of the bodies of the innocent victims of the Turkish genocide. The criminal acts of the x-Soviet Armenian Government c...
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Just out of curiosity, what else was there to do in this situation? Wait another 51 days/weeks/months/years??? Was there anything indicating that these children and the other people were going to get out alive?
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Are you pretending not knowing it? Here is why: "Those who are not obedient to we West must be evil!".
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You might as well have. You certainly would not have been in error if you would have.
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Perhaps you should change your name to Clayton "Mr Logic(NOT!)" Cramer! Please give evidence of the above statement or shut up. I believe that I may have answered that elsewhere, amongst your other ravings.
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While dedicating the Holocaust Memorial Museum, President Clinton remarked: ``The evil represented in this museum is incontestable, but as we are its witness, so must we remain its adversary in the world in which we live, so we must stop the fabricators of history and the bullies as well." Clinton made this co...
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I must finally admit the total truth that is central to the core of my being. I am a homosexual. Not just a normal, run-of-the-mill homosexual, but a rabid homosexual Zionist. I hide behind the facade of pro-Israel rhetoric so as to deflect suspicion of my true motive: the exchange of romantic ...
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That's another sad thing. I'd expect this sort of shit from the BATF. But I'm goddamn disappointed in the FBI. They used to be professionals. --
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I would like to publicly apologize to our Anisa Aldoubosh for playing : **** Well Anisa I am not sure that I feel the necessary remorse. You and another Muslim lady ( Hanan Ashrawi ) seems to me to be some attempt to charm the west into forgetting what you are really saying. It is not that we hate muslims but we hat...
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That is the result of watching anti-Muslim 'SDPA' Nazis/crooks/idiots too much. Still covering up the crimes of your fascist Armenian grandparents and Nazi Armenian parents? Not a chance. As early as 1934, K. S. Papazian asserted in 'Patriotism Perverted' that the Armenians 'lean toward Fascism and Hitler...
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Ditto. Source: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages). (Memoirs of an Armenian officer who participated in the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people) You have set up straw horses and knocked them down. I'm not impressed. Let us ask Armenia...
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this is true. this has merit but is not entirely true. this last statement is not true. According to the CBO the United States has a force of about 88,000 US Army personel in Europe, I do not know if this includes a USMC division in Norway. They have available a little more than 500 USAF attack aircraft, includin...
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----------------------------Original message---------------------------- D"SB Below please find an electronic copy of a leaflet put up at Warsaw U.: DEGEL*HATORAH Jewish Circle for Arts and Sciences, University of Warsaw, Warsaw, invites you to the l...
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WOW! Another Clayton wannabe. Typical response: lack of logic. Define 'deviant': someone who deviates from the normal. Ok, so far. Define 'normal': erm, umm. If you define yourself as normal then it is for you to prove that you are (within limits, which then brings in the question, what are the limits? For yo...
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As a matter of fact, I know it. There were several shootings recently in which the guns had been purchased at the Baltimore Gunsmith, on Broadway - a favorite place to get cheap "popular" pieces. By "popular" I am referring to the kinds of guns our local youth gangs like: pistol grip shotguns, cheap magnums, and Te...
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But they also might have run out of fire-wood (maybe chopping up furnature?). They also may not have been cooking, but eating MREs and other delicacies stored for just such an occation... Just a thought. Brent "Yes I am well aware that their electricity was cut, thanks to the HUNDREDS of E-mail messages and replies...
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[... snip ...] Can you imagine what happens when a magazine explodes? Bullets go flying every where. IMHO, these "gunshot wounds" were actually caused when the magazines went up. A Texas ranger does not a pathologist make, so I'll wait for an autopsy to determine if they were shot first.
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I thumbed through the Janus Report in a bookstore recently looking for a clue about their methodology. They were very unclear about it, but as far as I could tell they relied on their professional associates in the psychotherapy profession to provide the subjects, interviews, and numbers. If so, this wo...
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The imposed it knowing that Serbia has a stockpile of weapons, and that Bosnia will have next to nothing to defend itself. Many experts predicted a Massacre as early as March, 1992, but the Security Coucil knew what it was doing. ....... .... .... ... ..
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The arrest of Noriega did not have any major adverse effect on the drug trade going through Panama. Money laundering continues to be Panama's main industry. In fact, it is bigger now than before Noriega was arrested [1]. Panama's current administration also has ties with the Colombian cocaine cartels [2]. And large am...
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+>The paranoid assertion that the BATF fired first in an unprovoked +>assault assumes that the BATF were on a death wish. Had they +>expected the B-D to be anything other than peacefull citizens who +>would accept a search authorized by a court they would have turned up +>in a tank and broken the door down on day...
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A great deal of documentation exists on exactly that phenomenon. Especially regarding Vietnam and the Mai Lai (sp?) massacre Not that I'm suggesting that they started it on purpose but even if they now know that they accidentally started (or contributed to it) you can be sure the initial reaction is to lie. Remember ...
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Would you like fries with that, sir?
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If you have something reasoned and intelligent to say then you should post. If all you can do is rant and rave- save it. True conservatism is cutting spending and taxes. It's a matter of debate just how succesful the last few presidents have been at that. I hear it again and again, and I've noticed far more often...
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This is an outrage! I don't even own a dog.
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Janet Reno killed the Waco children. She is responsible for their deaths. She should resign immediately. She should have understood that David Koresh was a madman who would do anything against the children if he became provoked. All the warning signs were there and she ignored them. She provoked Koresh into kill...
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If you think that kind of uncalled for blanket statement will cause censorship at Mr. Jefferson's university you are wrong.
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Is this an arguement against or for? Or simply a statement of agreeance/ disagreeance. The fact that there are more homosexuals in prison does not mean that homosexuals are immoral and more liable to commit crime. And one must remember that prison is not necessarily a reflection of the type of people who are crimin...
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