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Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | some aspect of ethics, that means | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:33.600 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | it could be a learnable problem. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:35.240 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Yeah, exactly. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:37.120 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | And as we're getting into harder and harder questions, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:38.880 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | let's go to the hard problem of consciousness. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:42.040 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Is this an important problem for us | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:45.440 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | to think about and solve on the engineering of intelligence | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:48.080 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | side of your work, of our dream? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:52.240 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | It's unclear. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:56.240 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | So again, this is a deep problem, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:05:57.440 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | partly because it's very difficult to define | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:02.680 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | consciousness. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:05.720 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | And there is a debate among neuroscientists | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:06.760 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | about whether consciousness and philosophers, of course, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:17.800 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | whether consciousness is something that requires | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:23.040 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | flesh and blood, so to speak. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:28.280 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Or could be that we could have silicon devices that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:31.360 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | are conscious, or up to statement | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:38.680 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | like everything has some degree of consciousness | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:42.840 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | and some more than others. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:45.800 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | This is like Giulio Tonioni and phi. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:48.480 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | We just recently talked to Christoph Koch. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:53.960 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | OK. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:56.280 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Christoph was my first graduate student. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:06:57.600 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Do you think it's important to illuminate | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:00.680 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | aspects of consciousness in order | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:04.480 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | to engineer intelligence systems? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:07.480 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Do you think an intelligent system would ultimately | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:10.320 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | have consciousness? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:13.080 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Are they interlinked? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:14.480 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Most of the people working in artificial intelligence, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:18.800 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | I think, would answer, we don't strictly | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:22.800 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | need consciousness to have an intelligent system. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:25.800 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | That's sort of the easier question, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:30.040 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | because it's a very engineering answer to the question. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:31.800 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Pass the Turing test, we don't need consciousness. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:36.000 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | But if you were to go, do you think | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:38.120 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | it's possible that we need to have | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:41.360 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | that kind of self awareness? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:46.200 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | We may, yes. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:48.280 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | So for instance, I personally think | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:49.920 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | that when test a machine or a person in a Turing test, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:07:53.800 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | in an extended Turing test, I think | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:00.440 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | consciousness is part of what we require in that test, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:05.200 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | implicitly, to say that this is intelligent. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:11.520 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Christoph disagrees. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:15.000 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Yes, he does. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:17.440 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Despite many other romantic notions he holds, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:20.240 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | he disagrees with that one. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:23.440 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Yes, that's right. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:24.800 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | So we'll see. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:26.520 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Do you think, as a quick question, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:29.880 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Ernest Becker's fear of death, do you | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:34.640 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | think mortality and those kinds of things | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:38.520 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | are important for consciousness and for intelligence? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:41.920 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | The finiteness of life, finiteness of existence, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:49.200 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | or is that just a side effect of evolution, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:54.040 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | evolutionary side effect that's useful for natural selection? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:08:56.600 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Do you think this kind of thing that this interview is | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:01.120 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | going to run out of time soon, our life | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:03.840 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | will run out of time soon, do you | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:06.160 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | think that's needed to make this conversation good and life | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:08.200 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | good? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:11.720 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | I never thought about it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:12.240 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | It's a very interesting question. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:13.480 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | I think Steve Jobs, in his commencement speech | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:15.920 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | at Stanford, argued that having a finite life | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:21.200 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | was important for stimulating achievements. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:26.840 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | So it was different. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:30.280 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Yeah, live every day like it's your last, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:31.640 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Yeah. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:33.680 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | So rationally, I don't think strictly you need mortality | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:34.840 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | for consciousness. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:41.840 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | But who knows? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:43.200 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | They seem to go together in our biological system, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:45.960 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Yeah, yeah. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:48.760 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | You've mentioned before, and students are associated with, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:51.320 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | AlphaGo immobilized the big recent success stories in AI. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:09:57.880 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | And I think it's captivated the entire world of what AI can do. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:01.280 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | So what do you think will be the next breakthrough? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:06.040 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | And what's your intuition about the next breakthrough? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:10.360 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Of course, I don't know where the next breakthrough is. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:13.680 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | I think that there is a good chance, as I said before, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:16.760 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | that the next breakthrough will also | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:21.440 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | be inspired by neuroscience. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:23.200 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | But which one, I don't know. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:27.920 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | And there's, so MIT has this quest for intelligence. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:32.320 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | And there's a few moon shots, which in that spirit, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:35.880 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | which ones are you excited about? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:39.240 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Which projects kind of? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:41.800 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Well, of course, I'm excited about one | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:44.080 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | of the moon shots, which is our Center for Brains, Minds, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:47.400 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | and Machines, which is the one which is fully funded by NSF. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:51.040 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | And it is about visual intelligence. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:10:58.560 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | And that one is particularly about understanding. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:11:02.760 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | Visual intelligence, so the visual cortex, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:11:06.240 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | and visual intelligence in the sense | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:11:09.240 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | of how we look around ourselves and understand | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:11:13.400 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | the world around ourselves, meaning what is going on, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:11:20.000 |
Tomaso Poggio: Brains, Minds, and Machines | Lex Fridman Podcast #13 | how we could go from here to there without hitting | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0013-large.html#01:11:25.440 |
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