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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
that we can build together.
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So we should be, because politicians usually just focus
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on the next election cycle, right?
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
The single most important thing I feel we humans have learned
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in the entire history of science
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is they were the masters of underestimation.
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We underestimated the size of our cosmos again and again,
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realizing that everything we thought existed
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was just a small part of something grander, right?
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Planet, solar system, the galaxy, clusters of galaxies.
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The universe.
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And we now know that the future has just
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so much more potential
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than our ancestors could ever have dreamt of.
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This cosmos, imagine if all of Earth
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was completely devoid of life,
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except for Cambridge, Massachusetts.
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Wouldn't it be kind of lame if all we ever aspired to
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was to stay in Cambridge, Massachusetts forever
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and then go extinct in one week,
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even though Earth was gonna continue on for longer?
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That sort of attitude I think we have now
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on the cosmic scale, life can flourish on Earth,
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not for four years, but for billions of years.
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I can even tell you about how to move it out of harm's way
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when the sun gets too hot.
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And then we have so much more resources out here,
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which today, maybe there are a lot of other planets
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with bacteria or cow like life on them,
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but most of this, all this opportunity seems,
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as far as we can tell, to be largely dead,
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like the Sahara Desert.
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And yet we have the opportunity to help life flourish
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around this for billions of years.
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So let's quit squabbling about
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whether some little border should be drawn
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one mile to the left or right,
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and look up into the skies and realize,
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hey, we can do such incredible things.
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Yeah, and that's, I think, why it's really exciting
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that you and others are connected
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with some of the work Elon Musk is doing,
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because he's literally going out into that space,
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really exploring our universe, and it's wonderful.
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That is exactly why Elon Musk is so misunderstood, right?
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Misconstrued him as some kind of pessimistic doomsayer.
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The reason he cares so much about AI safety
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is because he more than almost anyone else appreciates
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these amazing opportunities that we'll squander
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if we wipe out here on Earth.
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We're not just going to wipe out the next generation,
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all generations, and this incredible opportunity
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that's out there, and that would really be a waste.
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And AI, for people who think that it would be better
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to do without technology, let me just mention that
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if we don't improve our technology,
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the question isn't whether humanity is going to go extinct.
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The question is just whether we're going to get taken out
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by the next big asteroid or the next super volcano
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or something else dumb that we could easily prevent
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with more tech, right?
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And if we want life to flourish throughout the cosmos,
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AI is the key to it.
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As I mentioned in a lot of detail in my book right there,
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even many of the most inspired sci fi writers,
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I feel have totally underestimated the opportunities
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for space travel, especially at the other galaxies,
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because they weren't thinking about the possibility of AGI,
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which just makes it so much easier.
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Right, yeah.
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So that goes to your view of AGI that enables our progress,
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that enables a better life.
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So that's a beautiful way to put it
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and then something to strive for.
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So Max, thank you so much.
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Thank you for your time today.
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It's been awesome.
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Thank you so much.
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Thanks.
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Have a great day.
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Christof Koch: Consciousness | Lex Fridman Podcast #2
As part of MIT course 6S099 on artificial general intelligence, I got a chance to sit
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down with Christoph Koch, who is one of the seminal figures in neurobiology, neuroscience,
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and generally in the study of consciousness.
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He is the president, the chief scientific officer of the Allen Institute for Brain Science
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in Seattle.
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From 1986 to 2013, he was a professor at Caltech.
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Before that, he was at MIT, he is extremely well cited, over 100,000 citations.
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His research, his writing, his ideas have had big impact on the scientific community
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and the general public in the way we think about consciousness, in the way we see ourselves
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as human beings.
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He's the author of several books, The Quest for Consciousness and Neurobiological Approach,
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and a more recent book, Consciousness, Confessions of a Romantic Reductionist.
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If you enjoy this conversation, this course, subscribe, click the little bell icon to make
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sure you never miss a video, and in the comments, leave suggestions for any people you'd like
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to see be part of the course or any ideas that you would like us to explore.
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Thanks very much and I hope you enjoy.
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Christof Koch: Consciousness | Lex Fridman Podcast #2
Okay, before we delve into the beautiful mysteries of consciousness, let's zoom out a little
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bit and let me ask, do you think there's intelligent life out there in the universe?
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Yes, I do believe so.
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We have no evidence of it, but I think the probabilities are overwhelming in favor of
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