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Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | You might have to experiment with a lot of different universes before there is a set | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:18:27.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | of rules that doesn't essentially always just end up repeating itself in a trivial | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:18:33.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | way. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:18:41.480 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Yeah, and Stephen Wolfram works with these simple rules, says that it's kind of surprising | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:18:42.480 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | how quickly you find rules that create interesting things. You shouldn't be able to, but somehow | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:18:49.840 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | you do. And so maybe our universe is laden with rules that will create interesting things | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:18:55.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | that might not look like humans, but emergent phenomena that's interesting may not be as | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:02.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | difficult to create as we think. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:07.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Sure. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:09.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But let me sort of ask, at that time, some of the world, at least in popular press, was | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:10.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | kind of captivated, perhaps at least in America, by the idea of artificial intelligence, that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:17.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | these computers would be able to think pretty soon. And did that touch you at all? In science | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:25.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | fiction or in reality in any way? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:33.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I didn't really start reading science fiction until much, much later. I think as a teenager | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:37.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I read maybe one bundle of science fiction stories. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:49.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Was it in the background somewhere, like in your thoughts? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:54.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | That sort of the using computers to build something intelligent always felt to me, because | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:19:57.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I felt I had so much understanding of what actually goes on inside a computer. I knew | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:20:04.720 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | how many bits of memory it had and how difficult it was to program. And sort of, I didn't believe | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:20:12.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | at all that you could just build something intelligent out of that, that would really | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:20:22.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | sort of satisfy my definition of intelligence. I think the most influential thing that I | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:20:30.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | read in my early twenties was Gödel Escherbach. That was about consciousness, and that was | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:20:40.600 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | a big eye opener in some sense. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:20:48.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | In what sense? So, on your own brain, did you at the time or do you now see your own | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:20:54.040 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | brain as a computer? Or is there a total separation of the way? So yeah, you're very pragmatically | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:21:00.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | practically know the limits of memory, the limits of this sequential computing or weakly | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:21:07.720 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | paralyzed computing, and you just know what we have now, and it's hard to see how it creates. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:21:14.600 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But it's also easy to see, it was in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and now at least similarities between | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:21:21.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | the brain and our computers. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:21:29.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Oh yeah, I mean, I totally believe that brains are computers in some sense. I mean, the rules | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:21:31.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | they use to play by are pretty different from the rules we can sort of implement in our | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:21:43.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | current hardware, but I don't believe in, like, a separate thing that infuses us with | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:21:51.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | intelligence or consciousness or any of that. There's no soul, I've been an atheist | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:22:02.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | probably from when I was 10 years old, just by thinking a bit about math and the universe, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:22:10.480 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | and well, my parents were atheists. Now, I know that you could be an atheist and still | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:22:18.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | believe that there is something sort of about intelligence or consciousness that cannot | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:22:26.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | possibly emerge from a fixed set of rules. I am not in that camp. I totally see that, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:22:34.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | sort of, given how many millions of years evolution took its time, DNA is a particular | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:22:44.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | machine that sort of encodes information and an unlimited amount of information in chemical | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:22:53.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | form and has figured out a way to replicate itself. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:23:07.040 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I thought that that was, maybe it's 300 million years ago, but I thought it was closer | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:23:12.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | to half a billion years ago, that that's sort of originated and it hasn't really changed, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:23:16.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | that the sort of the structure of DNA hasn't changed ever since. That is like our binary | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:23:25.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | code that we have in hardware. I mean... | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:23:32.040 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | The basic programming language hasn't changed, but maybe the programming itself... | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:23:35.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Obviously, it did sort of, it happened to be a set of rules that was good enough to | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:23:39.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | sort of develop endless variability and sort of the idea of self replicating molecules | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:23:48.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | competing with each other for resources and one type eventually sort of always taking | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:23:59.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | over. That happened before there were any fossils, so we don't know how that exactly | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:24:05.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | happened, but I believe it's clear that that did happen. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:24:12.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Can you comment on consciousness and how you see it? Because I think we'll talk about | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:24:17.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | programming quite a bit. We'll talk about, you know, intelligence connecting to programming | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:24:25.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | fundamentally, but consciousness is this whole other thing. Do you think about it often as | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:24:30.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | a developer of a programming language and as a human? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:24:38.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Those are pretty sort of separate topics. Sort of my line of work working with programming | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:24:45.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | does not involve anything that goes in the direction of developing intelligence or consciousness, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:24:55.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | but sort of privately as an avid reader of popular science writing, I have some thoughts | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:25:02.720 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | which is mostly that I don't actually believe that consciousness is an all or nothing thing. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:25:13.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I have a feeling that, and I forget what I read that influenced this, but I feel that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:25:25.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | if you look at a cat or a dog or a mouse, they have some form of intelligence. If you | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:25:35.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | look at a fish, it has some form of intelligence, and that evolution just took a long time, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:25:41.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | but I feel that the sort of evolution of more and more intelligence that led to sort of | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:25:54.040 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | the human form of intelligence followed the evolution of the senses, especially the visual | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:26:01.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | sense. I mean, there is an enormous amount of processing that's needed to interpret | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:26:12.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | a scene, and humans are still better at that than computers are. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:26:20.480 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And I have a feeling that there is a sort of, the reason that like mammals in particular | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:26:28.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | developed the levels of consciousness that they have and that eventually sort of going | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:26:39.660 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | from intelligence to self awareness and consciousness has to do with sort of being a robot that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:26:47.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | has very highly developed senses. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:26:55.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Has a lot of rich sensory information coming in, so that's a really interesting thought | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:26:58.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | that whatever that basic mechanism of DNA, whatever that basic building blocks of programming, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:27:04.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | if you just add more abilities, more high resolution sensors, more sensors, you just | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:27:14.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | keep stacking those things on top that this basic programming in trying to survive develops | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:27:21.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | very interesting things that start to us humans to appear like intelligence and consciousness. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:27:26.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | As far as robots go, I think that the self driving cars have that sort of the greatest | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:27:35.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | opportunity of developing something like that, because when I drive myself, I don't just | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:27:42.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | pay attention to the rules of the road. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:27:50.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I also look around and I get clues from that, oh, this is a shopping district, oh, here's | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:27:53.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | an old lady crossing the street, oh, here is someone carrying a pile of mail, there's | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:28:01.220 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | a mailbox, I bet you they're going to cross the street to reach that mailbox. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:28:08.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And I slow down, and I don't even think about that. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:28:14.040 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And so, there is so much where you turn your observations into an understanding of what | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:28:17.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | other consciousnesses are going to do, or what other systems in the world are going | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:28:25.780 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | to be, oh, that tree is going to fall. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:28:32.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I see sort of, I see much more of, I expect somehow that if anything is going to become | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:28:37.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | unconscious, it's going to be the self driving car and not the network of a bazillion computers | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:28:46.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | in a Google or Amazon data center that are all networked together to do whatever they | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:28:55.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | do. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:03.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So, in that sense, so you actually highlight, because that's what I work in Thomas Vehicles, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:04.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | you highlight the big gap between what we currently can't do and what we truly need | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:09.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | to be able to do to solve the problem. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:15.600 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Under that formulation, then consciousness and intelligence is something that basically | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:18.500 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | a system should have in order to interact with us humans, as opposed to some kind of | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:24.600 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | abstract notion of a consciousness. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:30.020 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Consciousness is something that you need to have to be able to empathize, to be able to | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:35.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | fear, understand what the fear of death is, all these aspects that are important for interacting | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:39.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | with pedestrians, you need to be able to do basic computation based on our human desires | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:47.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | and thoughts. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:56.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And if you sort of, yeah, if you look at the dog, the dog clearly knows, I mean, I'm | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:29:57.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | not the dog owner, but I have friends who have dogs, the dogs clearly know what the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:30:02.280 |
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