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Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | that's always the same thing that people trip over when they trip. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:47.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And we could not think of a backwards compatible way of resolving those issues. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:52.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But it's still an option to not resolve the issues, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:58.480 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And so yes, for a long time, we had sort of resigned ourselves to, well, okay, the language | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:01.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | is not going to be perfect in this way and that way and that way. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:07.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And we sort of, certain of these, I mean, there are still plenty of things where you | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:13.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | can say, well, that particular detail is better in Java or in R or in Visual Basic or whatever. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:19.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And we're okay with that because, well, we can't easily change it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:32.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | It's not too bad. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:37.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | We can do a little bit with user education or we can have a static analyzer or warnings | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:38.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | in the parse or something. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:47.180 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But there were things where we thought, well, these are really problems that are not going | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:49.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | away. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:54.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | They are getting worse in the future. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:09:55.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | We should do something about that. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:00.840 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But ultimately there is a decision to be made, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:03.040 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So was that the toughest decision in the history of Python you had to make as the benevolent | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:05.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | dictator for life? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:13.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Or if not, what are there, maybe even on the smaller scale, what was the decision where | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:15.180 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | you were really torn up about? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:20.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Well, the toughest decision was probably to resign. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:22.040 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | All right, let's go there. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:25.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Hold on a second then. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:28.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Let me just, because in the interest of time too, because I have a few cool questions for | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:29.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | you and let's touch a really important one because it was quite dramatic and beautiful | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:33.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | in certain kinds of ways. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:38.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | In July this year, three months ago, you wrote, now that PEP 572 is done, I don't ever want | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:40.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | to have to fight so hard for a PEP and find that so many people despise my decisions. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:47.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I would like to remove myself entirely from the decision process. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:52.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I'll still be there for a while as an ordinary core developer and I'll still be available | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:10:56.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | to mentor people, possibly more available. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:01.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL, benevolent dictator | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:05.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | for life. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:11.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And you all will be on your own. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:12.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | First of all, it's almost Shakespearean. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:14.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I'm not going to appoint a successor. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:19.720 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So what are you all going to do? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:22.300 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Create a democracy, anarchy, a dictatorship, a federation? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:24.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So that was a very dramatic and beautiful set of statements. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:29.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | It's almost, it's open ended nature called the community to create a future for Python. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:34.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | It's just kind of a beautiful aspect to it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:40.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So what, and dramatic, you know, what was making that decision like? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:43.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | What was on your heart, on your mind, stepping back now a few months later? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:48.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I'm glad you liked the writing because it was actually written pretty quickly. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:11:54.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | It was literally something like after months and months of going around in circles, I had | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:12:02.940 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | finally approved PEP572, which I had a big hand in its design, although I didn't initiate | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:12:14.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | it originally. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:12:26.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I sort of gave it a bunch of nudges in a direction that would be better for the language. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:12:27.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So sorry, just to ask, is async IO, that's the one or no? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:12:36.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | PEP572 was actually a small feature, which is assignment expressions. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:12:40.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | That had been, there was just a lot of debate where a lot of people claimed that they knew | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:12:49.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | what was Pythonic and what was not Pythonic, and they knew that this was going to destroy | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:12:58.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | the language. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:04.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | This was like a violation of Python's most fundamental design philosophy, and I thought | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:06.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | that was all bullshit because I was in favor of it, and I would think I know something | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:11.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | about Python's design philosophy. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:17.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So I was really tired and also stressed of that thing, and literally after sort of announcing | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:19.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I was going to accept it, a certain Wednesday evening I had finally sent the email, it's | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:26.340 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | accepted. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:34.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I can just go implement it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:35.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So I went to bed feeling really relieved, that's behind me. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:38.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And I wake up Thursday morning, 7 a.m., and I think, well, that was the last one that's | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:44.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | going to be such a terrible debate, and that's the last time that I let myself be so stressed | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:13:54.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | out about a pep decision. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:03.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I should just resign. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:06.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I've been sort of thinking about retirement for half a decade, I've been joking and sort | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:07.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | of mentioning retirement, sort of telling the community at some point in the future | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:15.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I'm going to retire, don't take that FL part of my title too literally. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:22.460 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And I thought, okay, this is it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:29.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I'm done, I had the day off, I wanted to have a good time with my wife, we were going to | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:32.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | a little beach town nearby, and in I think maybe 15, 20 minutes I wrote that thing that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:39.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | you just called Shakespearean. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:48.480 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | The funny thing is I didn't even realize what a monumental decision it was, because | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:14:51.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | five minutes later I read that link to my message back on Twitter, where people were | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:01.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | already discussing on Twitter, Guido resigned as the BDFL. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:09.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And I had posted it on an internal forum that I thought was only read by core developers, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:15.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | so I thought I would at least have one day before the news would sort of get out. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:22.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | The on your own aspects had also an element of quite, it was quite a powerful element | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:28.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | of the uncertainty that lies ahead, but can you also just briefly talk about, for example | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:36.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I play guitar as a hobby for fun, and whenever I play people are super positive, super friendly, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:43.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | they're like, this is awesome, this is great. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:49.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But sometimes I enter as an outside observer, I enter the programming community and there | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:52.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | seems to sometimes be camps on whatever the topic, and the two camps, the two or plus | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:15:57.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | camps, are often pretty harsh at criticizing the opposing camps. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:05.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | As an onlooker, I may be totally wrong on this, but what do you think of this? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:11.700 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Yeah, holy wars are sort of a favorite activity in the programming community. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:14.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And what is the psychology behind that? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:19.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Is that okay for a healthy community to have? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:22.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Is that a productive force ultimately for the evolution of a language? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:25.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Well, if everybody is patting each other on the back and never telling the truth, it would | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:29.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | not be a good thing. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:39.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I think there is a middle ground where sort of being nasty to each other is not okay, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:40.840 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | but there is a middle ground where there is healthy ongoing criticism and feedback that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:16:52.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | is very productive. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:17:01.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And you mean at every level you see that. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:17:04.780 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I mean, someone proposes to fix a very small issue in a code base, chances are that some | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:17:07.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | reviewer will sort of respond by saying, well, actually, you can do it better the other way. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:17:17.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | When it comes to deciding on the future of the Python core developer community, we now | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:17:27.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | have, I think, five or six competing proposals for a constitution. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:17:34.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So that future, do you have a fear of that future, do you have a hope for that future? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:17:41.160 |
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