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Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But people who are more interested in emphasizing the object oriented nature of things. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:58:21.200 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So within the last 10 years or so, especially with the oncoming of neural networks and these | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:58:29.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | packages that are built on Python to interface with neural networks, I switched to Python | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:58:34.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | and it's just, I've noticed a significant boost that I can't exactly, because I don't | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:58:41.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | think about it, but I can't exactly put into words why I'm just much, much more productive. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:58:47.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Just being able to get the job done much, much faster. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:58:52.840 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So how do you think, whatever that qualitative difference is, I don't know if it's quantitative, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:58:56.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | it could be just a feeling, I don't know if I'm actually more productive, but how | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:01.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | do you think about... | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:07.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | You probably are. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:08.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Yeah. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:09.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Well, that's right. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:10.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I think there's elements, let me just speak to one aspect that I think that was affecting | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:11.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | my productivity is C++ was, I really enjoyed creating performant code and creating a beautiful | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:15.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | structure where everything that, you know, this kind of going into this, especially with | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:26.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | the newer and newer standards of templated programming of just really creating this beautiful | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:31.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | formal structure that I found myself spending most of my time doing that as opposed to getting | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:37.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | it, parsing a file and extracting a few keywords or whatever the task was trying to do. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:42.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So what is it about Python? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:47.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | How do you think of productivity in general as you were designing it now, sort of through | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:49.980 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | the decades, last three decades, what do you think it means to be a productive programmer? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#00:59:54.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And how did you try to design it into the language? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:00:00.120 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | There are different tasks and as a programmer, it's useful to have different tools available | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:00:03.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | that sort of are suitable for different tasks. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:00:10.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So I still write C code, I still write shell code, but I write most of my things in Python. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:00:13.940 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Why do I still use those other languages, because sometimes the task just demands it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:00:25.600 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And well, I would say most of the time the task actually demands a certain language because | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:00:33.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | the task is not write a program that solves problem X from scratch, but it's more like | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:00:39.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | fix a bug in existing program X or add a small feature to an existing large program. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:00:45.600 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But even if you're not constrained in your choice of language by context like that, there | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:00:56.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | is still the fact that if you write it in a certain language, then you have this balance | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:01:10.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | between how long does it take you to write the code and how long does the code run? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:01:21.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And when you're in the phase of exploring solutions, you often spend much more time | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:01:31.840 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | writing the code than running it because every time you've run it, you see that the output | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:01:42.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | is not quite what you wanted and you spend some more time coding. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:01:50.720 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And a language like Python just makes that iteration much faster because there are fewer | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:01:58.480 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | details that you have to get right before your program compiles and runs. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:02:06.760 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | There are libraries that do all sorts of stuff for you, so you can sort of very quickly take | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:02:19.480 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | a bunch of existing components, put them together, and get your prototype application running. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:02:26.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Just like when I was building electronics, I was using a breadboard most of the time, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:02:36.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | so I had this sprawl out circuit that if you shook it, it would stop working because it | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:02:42.860 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | was not put together very well, but it functioned and all I wanted was to see that it worked | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:02:51.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | and then move on to the next schematic or design or add something to it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:02:58.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Once you've sort of figured out, oh, this is the perfect design for my radio or light | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:03:05.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | sensor or whatever, then you can say, okay, how do we design a PCB for this? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:03:10.500 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | How do we solder the components in a small space? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:03:15.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | How do we make it so that it is robust against, say, voltage fluctuations or mechanical disruption? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:03:19.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | I know nothing about that when it comes to designing electronics, but I know a lot about | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:03:32.840 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | that when it comes to writing code. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:03:37.320 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So the initial steps are efficient, fast, and there's not much stuff that gets in the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:03:40.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | way, but you're kind of describing, like Darwin described the evolution of species, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:03:46.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | You're observing of what is true about Python. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:03:56.680 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Now if you take a step back, if the act of creating languages is art and you had three | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:00.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | months to do it, initial steps, so you just specified a bunch of goals, sort of things | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:07.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | that you observe about Python, perhaps you had those goals, but how do you create the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:15.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | rules, the syntactic structure, the features that result in those? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:19.400 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So I have in the beginning and I have follow up questions about through the evolution of | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:25.600 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Python too, but in the very beginning when you were sitting there creating the lexical | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:29.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | analyzer or whatever. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:35.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Python was still a big part of it because I sort of, I said to myself, I don't want | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:37.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | to have to design everything from scratch, I'm going to borrow features from other languages | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:47.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | that I like. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:53.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Oh, interesting. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:54.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So you basically, exactly, you first observe what you like. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:55.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Yeah, and so that's why if you're 17 years old and you want to sort of create a programming | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:04:58.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | language, you're not going to be very successful at it because you have no experience with | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:05:05.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | other languages, whereas I was in my, let's say mid 30s, I had written parsers before, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:05:11.600 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | so I had worked on the implementation of ABC, I had spent years debating the design of ABC | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:05:24.300 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | with its authors, with its designers, I had nothing to do with the design, it was designed | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:05:30.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | fully as it ended up being implemented when I joined the team. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:05:37.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | But so you borrow ideas and concepts and very concrete sort of local rules from different | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:05:42.080 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | languages like the indentation and certain other syntactic features from ABC, but I chose | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:05:51.440 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | to borrow string literals and how numbers work from C and various other things. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:05:58.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So in then, if you take that further, so yet you've had this funny sounding, but I think | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:07.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | surprisingly accurate and at least practical title of benevolent dictator for life for | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:13.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | quite, you know, for the last three decades or whatever, or no, not the actual title, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:21.000 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | but functionally speaking. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:25.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So you had to make decisions, design decisions. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:27.940 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Can you maybe, let's take Python 2, so releasing Python 3 as an example. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:34.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | It's not backward compatible to Python 2 in ways that a lot of people know. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:41.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | So what was that deliberation, discussion, decision like? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:47.240 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Yeah. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:50.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | What was the psychology of that experience? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:51.640 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Do you regret any aspects of how that experience undergone that? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:54.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Well, yeah, so it was a group process really. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:06:58.520 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | At that point, even though I was BDFL in name and certainly everybody sort of respected | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:07:03.040 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | my position as the creator and the current sort of owner of the language design, I was | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:07:11.880 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | looking at everyone else for feedback. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:07:22.160 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Sort of Python 3.0 in some sense was sparked by other people in the community pointing | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:07:26.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | out, oh, well, there are a few issues that sort of bite users over and over. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:07:35.280 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | Can we do something about that? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:07:46.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And for Python 3, we took a number of those Python words as they were called at the time | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:07:48.920 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | and we said, can we try to sort of make small changes to the language that address those | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:07:56.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | words? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:04.800 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And we had sort of in the past, we had always taken backwards compatibility very seriously. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:06.560 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And so many Python words in earlier versions had already been resolved because they could | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:15.360 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | be resolved while maintaining backwards compatibility or sort of using a very gradual path of evolution | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:20.420 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | of the language in a certain area. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:29.740 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | And so we were stuck with a number of words that were widely recognized as problems, not | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:31.960 |
Guido van Rossum: Python | Lex Fridman Podcast #6 | like roadblocks, but nevertheless sort of things that some people trip over and you know that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0006-large.html#01:08:39.760 |
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