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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
You could eliminate its memory and have it go over again.
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I mean, it has a different kind of connotation
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than humans do.
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Well, perhaps it can do the same thing with humans.
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It's just that we don't know how to do that yet.
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It's possible that we figure out all of these things
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on the machine first.
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But that doesn't mean the machine isn't conscious.
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I mean, if you look at the way people react,
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say, 3CPO or other machines that are conscious in movies,
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they don't actually present how it's conscious,
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but we see that they are a machine
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and people will believe that they are conscious
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and they'll actually worry about it
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if they get into trouble and so on.
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So 2029 is going to be the first year
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when a major thing happens.
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Right.
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And that will shake our civilization
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to start to consider the role of AI in this world.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Yes and no.
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I mean, this one guy at Google claimed
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that the machine was conscious.
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But that's just one person.
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Right.
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When it starts to happen to scale.
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Well, that's exactly right because most people
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have not taken that position.
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I don't take that position.
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I mean, I've used different things like this
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and they don't appear to me to be conscious.
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As we eliminate various problems
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of these large language models,
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more and more people will accept that they're conscious.
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So when we get to 2029, I think a large fraction
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of people will believe that they're conscious.
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So it's not gonna happen all at once.
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I believe it will actually happen gradually
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and it's already started to happen.
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And so that takes us one step closer to the singularity.
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Another step then is in the 2030s
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when we can actually connect our neocortex,
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which is where we do our thinking, to computers.
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And I mean, just as this actually gains a lot
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to being connected to computers
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that will amplify its abilities,
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I mean, if this did not have any connection,
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it would be pretty stupid.
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It could not answer any of your questions.
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If you're just listening to this, by the way,
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Ray's holding up the all powerful smartphone.
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So we're gonna do that directly from our brains.
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I mean, these are pretty good.
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These already have amplified our intelligence.
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I'm already much smarter than I would otherwise be
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if I didn't have this.
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Because I remember my first book,
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The Age of Intelligent Machines,
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there was no way to get information from computers.
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I actually would go to a library, find a book,
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find the page that had an information I wanted,
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and I'd go to the copier,
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and my most significant information tool
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was a roll of quarters where I could feed the copier.
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So we're already greatly advanced
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that we have these things.
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There's a few problems with it.
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First of all, I constantly put it down,
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and I don't remember where I put it.
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I've actually never lost it.
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But you have to find it, and then you have to turn it on.
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So there's a certain amount of steps.
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It would actually be quite useful
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if someone would just listen to your conversation
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and say, oh, that's so and so actress,
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and tell you what you're talking about.
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So going from active to passive,
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where it just permeates your whole life.
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Yeah, exactly.
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The way your brain does when you're awake.
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Your brain is always there.
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Right.
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That's something that could actually
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just about be done today,
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where we'd listen to your conversation,
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understand what you're saying,
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understand what you're not missing,
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and give you that information.
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But another step is to actually go inside your brain.
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And there are some prototypes
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where you can connect your brain.
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They actually don't have the amount
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of bandwidth that we need.
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They can work, but they work fairly slowly.
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So if it actually would connect to your neocortex,
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and the neocortex, which I describe
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in How to Create a Mind,
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the neocortex is actually,
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it has different levels,
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and as you go up the levels,
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