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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
it's kind of like a pyramid.
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The top level is fairly small,
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and that's the level where you wanna connect
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these brain extenders.
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And so I believe that will happen in the 2030s.
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So just the way this is greatly amplified
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by being connected to the cloud,
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we can connect our own brain to the cloud,
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and just do what we can do by using this machine.
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Do you think it would look like
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the brain computer interface of like Neuralink?
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So would it be?
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Well, Neuralink, it's an attempt to do that.
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It doesn't have the bandwidth that we need.
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Yet, right?
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Right, but I think,
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I mean, they're gonna get permission for this
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because there are a lot of people
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who absolutely need it because they can't communicate.
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I know a couple people like that
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who have ideas and they cannot,
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they cannot move their muscles and so on.
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They can't communicate.
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And so for them, this would be very valuable,
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but we could all use it.
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Basically, it'd be,
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turn us into something that would be like we have a phone,
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but it would be in our minds.
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It would be kind of instantaneous.
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And maybe communication between two people
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would not require this low bandwidth mechanism of language.
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Yes, exactly.
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We don't know what that would be,
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although we do know that computers can share information
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like language instantly.
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They can share many, many books in a second.
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So we could do that as well.
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If you look at what our brain does,
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it actually can manipulate different parameters.
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So we talk about these large language models.
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I mean, I had written that
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it requires a certain amount of information
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in order to be effective
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and that we would not see AI really being effective
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until it got to that level.
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And we had large language models
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that were like 10 billion bytes, didn't work very well.
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They finally got to a hundred billion bytes
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and now they work fairly well.
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And now we're going to a trillion bytes.
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If you say lambda has a hundred billion bytes,
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what does that mean?
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Well, what if you had something that had one byte,
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one parameter, maybe you wanna tell
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whether or not something's an elephant or not.
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And so you put in something that would detect its trunk.
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If it has a trunk, it's an elephant.
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If it doesn't have a trunk, it's not an elephant.
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That would work fairly well.
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There's a few problems with it.
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And it really wouldn't be able to tell what a trunk is,
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but anyway.
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And maybe other things other than elephants have trunks,
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you might get really confused.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I'm not sure which animals have trunks,
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but how do you define a trunk?
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But yeah, that's one parameter.
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You can do okay.
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So these things have a hundred billion parameters.
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So they're able to deal with very complex issues.
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All kinds of trunks.
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Human beings actually have a little bit more than that,
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but they're getting to the point
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where they can emulate humans.
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If we were able to connect this to our neocortex,
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we would basically add more of these abilities
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to make distinctions,
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and it could ultimately be much smarter
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and also be attached to information
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that we feel is reliable.
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So that's where we're headed.
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So you think that there will be a merger in the 30s,
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an increasing amount of merging
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between the human brain and the AI brain?
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Exactly.
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And the AI brain is really an emulation of human beings.
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I mean, that's why we're creating them,
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because human beings act the same way,
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and this is basically to amplify them.
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I mean, this amplifies our brain.
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It's a little bit clumsy to interact with,
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but it definitely is way beyond what we had 15 years ago.
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But the implementation becomes different,
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just like a bird versus the airplane,
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even though the AI brain is an emulation,
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it starts adding features we might not otherwise have,
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like ability to consume a huge amount
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of information quickly,
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like look up thousands of Wikipedia articles in one take.
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