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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
So they, in the movie, wanted to show a simplistic version
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of something that does happen,
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something that's visually sort of clear.
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Yeah, because I think one of the things Rounders got right
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is that it's a poker movie, right?
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But you don't have to be great at poker
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or really understand poker to enjoy the movie.
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And that, you know, Oreo cookie tale,
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like everyone gets that.
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They're like, okay, that's simple.
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If he would have went with something more subtle,
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you know, like licking your lips or looking to the right,
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or I think it might've been lost on the audience.
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And they didn't actually explicitly say
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that that was a tell, I don't think.
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I thought they did everything to let you know, right?
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With the music and slow motion and he's staring at it
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and he's like, aha.
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Yeah, but they didn't actually say,
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you know, this is an obvious tell,
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like Matt Damon's character didn't talk.
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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
At the very end of it, you know,
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after he says, how the fuck did you lay that down?
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The monster, right?
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And he's like, he's like, you're not hungry?
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Not hungry, KGB?
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He's like, I keep on, but you, you know,
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so he sort of references it and then he takes the cookies.
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He notices, he's like, ah, he got me.
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And he breaks the, you know, the rack of cookies.
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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
Well, probably if you had that kind of tell on him,
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you wouldn't, and Matt Damon's character would not reveal.
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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
Well, he says in the movie, he says,
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normally I wouldn't reveal a tell,
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but I don't have that much time.
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Like I've got to rattle him some way.
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So that was one way to do that.
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How hard is it to do that to, in a KGB accent,
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to lay down a monster in those situations?
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In general, how hard is it to lay down
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a really strong hand, just psychologically?
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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
Yeah, no, I mean, I think it's incredibly difficult
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for the vast majority of people.
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You know, part of what makes professionals
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really, really good is recognizing a situation
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that's very, very dangerous and they need to, you know,
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jump ship.
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Like what happens to a lot of players
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is you get married to a hand.
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Let's say you have pocket aces,
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which is the best possible hand, right?
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But the board runs out where it's seven, eight, nine,
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and then there's a jack and then there's a six.
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It's like, you have a great hand to start,
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but you don't anymore.
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So one of the difficult things for the average player is,
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you know, once they've put money in, cutting their losses
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and saying, okay, let's move on to the next hand.
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It's a very, very difficult thing for a lot of people.
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At every stage of like pre flop all the way through,
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be able to just make a decision at that moment.
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So yeah, essentially not being attached.
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Okay, I've already put in $40,000 in this pot
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and this guy's bet another 20.
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Well, I mean, I gotta get my 40 back, right?
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Except, you know, in some cases you have to reassess
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individually this situation and realize,
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all right, well, this is a bad investment.
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So I got to cut my losses.
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By the way, I should mention that you have,
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you have an incredible YouTube channel
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where you explain a lot of stuff.
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You do a podcast, you do a lot of really awesome stuff.
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My probably favorite thing that you've done
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is your masterclass that people should definitely check out,
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masterclass.com slash Lux.
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There you go.
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No, but it really is one of my favorite masterclass courses,
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but also just a great introduction overview of poker.
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It's great for people like me who are beginners essentially,
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but it's probably really good for intermediate people too.
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I mean, there's a lot of really good detail there.
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Anyway, what are hand ranges
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and how do you begin to estimate the range of hands
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that your opponents have?
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Yeah, so I actually did, speaking to YouTube,
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I did a video on specifically this.
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Yes.
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Getting familiar with Rangers and essentially,
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you know, back in my day, the old days,
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we didn't talk about poker that way.
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We're like, I think he's got this
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or I think he's got that, right?
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Nobody thought of like the range of hands
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a player can have.
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So I guess the best example is,
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imagine like all the potential hands
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as being a part of a grid, right?
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So the first player to act,
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they could have any one of those hands, right?
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