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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
But it's also interesting whenever you see a Daniel
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on the ground of quiet.
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That's an interesting, like it feels like a calm
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before a storm of sorts.
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So I'm sure that's also part of it.
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Yeah, like I've gone, I've ebbed and flowed.
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And like I said, you know, I took on some coaches
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and that was really learning game theory.
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Cause I felt like it was important to always stick,
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you know, keep up with what's going on.
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And then I do feel like to some degree,
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it sort of took away a little bit of my own
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instinctual ideas in terms of what I should be doing.
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Right?
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So I think like the most dangerous version of myself
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is a deep understanding of the game theory
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with my wisdom of many years of,
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and comfort of just sort of like being myself at the table.
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And being relaxed.
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Relaxed.
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Letting your mind flow.
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Let me ask you the greatest, the goat question,
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greatest of all time.
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Can you make the case for a few folks?
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So first you tweeted referring to Phil Ivey as the goat,
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saying the goat doing goat things.
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That's a recent tweet.
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So can you make the case for Phil Ivey,
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or maybe who is the greatest poker player of all time?
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Would you put Phil?
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For me, until someone knocks him off the podium,
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the king of poker and the goat is Phil Ivey.
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Okay?
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So, and the reason I say that is,
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I think of poker as more than just one game.
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Right?
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There's different variants.
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You know, there's Holdem, Omaha, Stud, Triple Draw,
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all these different types of games.
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And Phil in every arena has been dominant.
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Whether it was tournament poker, dominated it.
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Mixed game, high stakes poker in Bobby's room, dominated.
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Online poker against all the wizards, dominated.
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Made millions in every arena.
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And, you know, he sort of took a few years away from poker
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with his legal troubles and things like that,
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but he's back.
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You know, he's been playing in the high roller series again.
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And, you know, he comes from,
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he's cut from a different cloth,
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but he has a tenacity and a focus that's unparalleled,
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I think.
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When he's in the zone, I mean, for lack,
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and this has nothing to do with race.
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It really has to do with mannerism,
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but he does remind me of like a combination
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of Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods
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in the way that he approaches it.
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He's very intense.
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And he outworks everybody, you know?
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And I think, frankly,
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a lot of his mannerisms do come from them
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because he's young watching these guys on TV.
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And a lot of his ways of being, you know,
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his learned behavior, I think probably from people like that.
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People at the top of their sport
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and people that are Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan
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aren't just at the top of their sport,
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but they kind of dominate the sport
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to some kind of aura that.
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There's a uniqueness to them.
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They're not built like us.
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They're not, you know, they're not.
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Like I wish, I wish I could have the kind of focus
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that Phil Ivey has, you know, and see everything
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that he's saying.
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I just, that's not me, you know?
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I don't have that.
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And he does, he has that gene, whatever it is.
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But they also look like they're not having that much fun.
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They're more focused on the perfection,
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like a dogged pursuit of perfection.
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And you know, that might even be true.
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It might not be as fun.
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You know, I don't know.
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Like I have fun at the table.
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When you look outwardly, you look at someone,
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like maybe he is having a blast.
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Maybe that's just the way that he likes, you know?
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Like is Tiger Woods having fun when he's like on 17
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about to win a major?
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It doesn't look like it, theoretically.
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Well, if you look at Michael Jordan,
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I don't know about Tiger Woods,
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but I think they're more focused
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on every single mistake they make.
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I think they're more obsessed about not making a mistake
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and hating every time they make a mistake.
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That's probably like 99% of their mental energy.
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I think that's part of what makes them great, right?
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