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In each of Kiryat Shemona's five districts, at least 1,500 are demanding they be evacuated, but only 500 total got a free pass out tonight. They were mainly families with children, the elderly and the sick. One couple had a six-day-old baby. Some who didn't make the list came to the meeting points, local schools, deman... | in each of. kiryat shemona's five districts at least 1,500 are demanding they be evacuated but only. 500 total got a free pass out tonight they were mainly families with children the elderly and the sick one couple had a six-day-old baby some who didn't make the list came to the meeting points local schools demanding t... | In each of Kiryat Shemona's five districts at least 1,500 are demanding they be evacuated but only 500 total got a free pass out tonight They were mainly families with children the elderly and. the sick One couple had a. six-day-old baby Some who didn't make the list came to the meeting points local schools demanding t... | in each of kiryat shemona's five districts, at least 1,500 are demanding they be evacuated, but only 500 total got a free pass out tonight. they were mainly families with children, the elderly and the sick. one couple had a six-day-old baby. some who didn't make the list came to the meeting points, local schools, deman... |
Anne, we actually hear something behind you. What is that we hear in the background? | anne. we actually hear something; behind you what is that we hear in the | Anne we actually hear something behind you What is, that we hear in the | anne, we actually hear something behind you. what is that we hear in the background? |
That's outgoing right now, actually. There's an artillery battery near me which is - it's outgoing. Not Katyushas. Those were earlier this evening. | that's outgoing right now actually there's an artillery battery near me which is - it's, outgoing not katyushas those, were earlier. this | That's outgoing right now actually There's an artillery battery near me which is. - it's outgoing Not Katyushas Those were earlier. this | that's outgoing right now, actually. there's an artillery battery near me which is - it's outgoing. not katyushas. those were earlier this evening. |
How big is the town, and are any of the residents there planning to stay behind despite the evacuation? | how big is the town and are any of the residents there planning to stay. behind despite the | How big is the. town and are any of the residents there, planning; to stay behind despite the | how big is the town, and are any of the residents there planning to stay behind despite the evacuation? |
Well, more are staying than want to, basically. Kiryat Shemona is a relatively poor town a couple of miles from the border. It's populated largely by Moroccan and Russian Jews. Out of the population of about 24,000, 15,000 left early on. They had the money to get out, a place to go. The 9,000 remaining behind include t... | well more are staying than want to basically kiryat shemona is a relatively poor town a couple of miles from the border it's populated largely by moroccan and russian jews out of the population of about 24,000, 15,000 left early on they had the money; to get out a place to go the 9,000 remaining behind include the poor... | Well more are staying than want to basically Kiryat Shemona is. a relatively poor town a couple of miles from the border It's populated largely by Moroccan and Russian Jews Out of the population of about. 24,000, 15,000 left early on They had the money to get out a place to go The 9,000 remaining behind include the poo... | well, more are staying than want to, basically. kiryat shemona is a relatively poor town a couple of miles from the border. it's populated largely by moroccan and russian jews. out of the population of about 24,000, 15,000 left early on. they had the money to get out, a place to go. the 9,000 remaining behind include t... |
Most now, though, want out and they've signed up to get out with government transport and housing. But only 500 were taken out tonight and, with more than 50 rockets each day, people have been living in cramped, stuffy underground bomb shelters. It's now a month. Local officials say the government has agreed now to pro... | most now though want out and they've signed up to get out with government transport and housing but only 500 were taken out tonight and with more than 50 rockets each day people have been living in, cramped stuffy underground bomb, shelters it's now a month local officials say the government has agreed now to. provide ... | Most now though want out and they've signed up to get out. with government transport and. housing But only 500 were taken out tonight and with more than 50 rockets each day. people have been living in cramped stuffy underground bomb. shelters It's now a month, Local officials say the government; has agreed now to provi... | most now, though, want out and they've signed up to get out with government transport and housing. but only 500 were taken out tonight and, with more than 50 rockets each day, people have been living in cramped, stuffy underground bomb shelters. it's now a month. local officials say the government has agreed now to pro... |
Anne, just quickly before we let you go, in general, when you talk to people, how do they feel about how the Israeli government has conducted the war? | anne. just quickly before we let you go, in general when you, talk to people how do they feel about how the; israeli government has conducted the | Anne just quickly before we let you go in general when you talk to people how do they feel about how the Israeli government has conducted the | anne, just quickly before we let you go, in general, when you talk to people, how do they feel about how the israeli government has conducted the war? |
Well, the head of the local university had nothing but scorn tonight for the way the government's dealt with the civilian problems here and as for the military operations, many believe the government underestimated or ignored the growing Hezbollah threat since Israel pulled out of southern Lebanon six years ago. | well the head of the local university had nothing but scorn. tonight for the way the government's dealt with the civilian problems. here and as for the military operations many believe the government, underestimated or ignored the growing; hezbollah threat since israel pulled out of southern lebanon. six years | Well the head of. the, local university had nothing, but scorn, tonight for the way, the government's dealt with the civilian problems here and as, for the military operations many believe the government underestimated or ignored the. growing Hezbollah threat since Israel pulled out of southern Lebanon six years | well, the head of the local university had nothing but scorn tonight for the way the government's dealt with the civilian problems here and as for the military operations, many believe the government underestimated or ignored the growing hezbollah threat since israel pulled out of southern lebanon six years ago. |
And in what may be a military scandal, the Israeli military has just moved the deputy chief of staff up to the north to work with the local commanding general here and this is widely reported as an indication the army has lost confidence in this general. His office is putting the best face on it saying oh, well, this i... | and in what may be a military scandal the israeli military, has just moved the deputy chief of staff up to the north to work with the local commanding; general here and this is. widely reported as an indication the army has lost confidence in. this, general his office is putting the best. face on it saying oh well this... | And in what, may be a military, scandal the Israeli military has just moved the deputy chief of staff up to the north to work with the local commanding, general here and this is widely reported as an indication the army has lost confidence in this general His office is putting the best; face on, it saying oh well this ... | and in what may be a military scandal, the israeli military has just moved the deputy chief of staff up to the north to work with the local commanding general here and this is widely reported as an indication the army has lost confidence in this general. his office is putting the best face on it saying oh, well, this i... |
Thank you, Ann. That was NPR's Anne Garrels, near the border between Israel and Lebanon. | thank you, ann that was npr's anne garrels near the border between israel and | Thank you Ann That was NPR's Anne Garrels near the border between Israel and. | thank you, ann. that was npr's anne garrels, near the border between israel and lebanon. |
When we last heard from our next guest, Tope Folarin, he'd recently won the prestigious Caine Prize for African Writing for a short story the prize committee called exquisitely observed and utterly compelling. Now Folarin is out with his first novel. It's called "A Particular Kind Of Black Man." It's a unique coming-of... | when we last heard from our. next guest tope folarin he'd recently won the. prestigious caine prize, for african writing for a short story the prize committee called exquisitely observed and utterly compelling now folarin is out. with his first novel it's called "a particular, kind of black man" it's a unique coming-of... | When we, last heard from our next guest Tope; Folarin he'd recently. won, the prestigious Caine Prize for African Writing for a, short story the prize committee called exquisitely observed and utterly compelling Now Folarin is out with his; first novel It's called "A Particular, Kind Of Black, Man" It's a unique coming... | when we last heard from our next guest, tope folarin, he'd recently won the prestigious caine prize for african writing for a short story the prize committee called exquisitely observed and utterly compelling. now folarin is out with his first novel. it's called "a particular kind of black man." it's a unique coming-of... |
Part of it was initially, I started writing, and I thought, well, maybe I'll write a story about my life. And so that's actually how I started writing this. And as I continued to write, I discovered that - when writers used to talk about this, I thought it was mystical mumbo-jumbo when they talk about characters kind o... | part of. it was initially i started writing and i thought well, maybe i'll write a story. about my life and so that's actually how i started writing this and as i continued to write i discovered that - when writers used to talk about this i thought it was mystical mumbo-jumbo when they talk, about; characters kind. of ... | Part of it was, initially I started; writing and I thought well maybe I'll. write a story about, my life And; so that's actually how I started writing this And as I continued to. write I discovered that - when writers used to talk about this I thought; it was mystical mumbo-jumbo when they, talk about, characters kind ... | part of it was initially, i started writing, and i thought, well, maybe i'll write a story about my life. and so that's actually how i started writing this. and as i continued to write, i discovered that - when writers used to talk about this, i thought it was mystical mumbo-jumbo when they talk about characters kind o... |
So it has some elements that are autobiographical. | so. it has some elements that are | So it has some elements that are. | so it has some elements that are autobiographical. |
Absolutely. | absolutely. | ||
I mean, the fact is, you were raised in Utah. | i mean the fact. is you were raised in | I mean the fact is you were raised in, | i mean, the fact is, you were raised in utah. |
Yes, exactly. | yes | Yes | yes, exactly. |
And... | and... | ||
My folks are from Nigeria. I went to Morehouse College. I'm a proud graduate of Morehouse. So those elements are certainly true to life. But Tunde, for example, moves a great deal more than I did. His relationship with his father is pretty different from my relationship with my father. And he sees the world in a differ... | my folks are from nigeria i went, to morehouse college i'm a proud graduate of morehouse so those elements are, certainly true to life but tunde, for example moves a. great deal more than i did his relationship, with his father is pretty different from my relationship with my, father, and he sees the world in a differe... | My folks are from Nigeria I went to Morehouse College. I'm a proud; graduate of Morehouse So those elements are certainly true to life, But Tunde for example moves a great deal more than I did His. relationship with his father is pretty different from my relationship with my father And he sees the world in a different ... | my folks are from nigeria. i went to morehouse college. i'm a proud graduate of morehouse. so those elements are certainly true to life. but tunde, for example, moves a great deal more than i did. his relationship with his father is pretty different from my relationship with my father. and he sees the world in a differ... |
Why don't you read a little bit, and then... | why don't you read a little. bit and | Why don't you read a little bit. and | why don't you read a little bit, and then... |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
We'll talk more about it, if you don't mind. This is from a very - some early pages in the book. Here it is. | we'll talk more about. it if you don't mind. this is from a very - some early pages in the book here it | We'll talk more about it if, you. don't mind This is from a very - some early pages in the book, Here it | we'll talk more about it, if you don't mind. this is from a very - some early pages in the book. here it is. |
(Reading) My father has told me many times that he settled in Utah because he didn't want to be where anyone else was. His cousins and siblings had left Nigeria for Athens, London, Rome, New York City and Houston. My father wanted to be an American, but he also craved isolation, so he decided he would travel to a city ... | (reading) my father has told me many times that he settled in utah because he didn't want to be, where anyone else was his cousins and siblings, had left nigeria for athens london rome. new york city and houston my father wanted, to be an american but he. also craved isolation so, he decided he would travel to a. city ... | (Reading) My father has told me many times that he settled in Utah because he didn't want to be where anyone else was His cousins and siblings had, left Nigeria for Athens London Rome New York City and Houston My father wanted to be an American, but. he also craved isolation so he decided he would travel to a city in A... | (reading) my father has told me many times that he settled in utah because he didn't want to be where anyone else was. his cousins and siblings had left nigeria for athens, london, rome, new york city and houston. my father wanted to be an american, but he also craved isolation, so he decided he would travel to a city ... |
Absolutely. I do think that the point of this book is that we can write our own narratives. And I firmly believe that, and that's what Tunde does in the book. He begins to write his own narrative and finds kind of solace and hope and warmth in that space. | absolutely i do think that the point. of this book is that we can write our own narratives and i firmly believe that and that's what tunde does in the book he begins to write his own narrative and finds, kind of solace and hope and. warmth in that | Absolutely I do think. that the point, of this book is that. we can write, our own narratives And I, firmly believe that and that's what Tunde does in the book He begins to write. his own narrative and finds. kind of solace and hope, and warmth in that | absolutely. i do think that the point of this book is that we can write our own narratives. and i firmly believe that, and that's what tunde does in the book. he begins to write his own narrative and finds kind of solace and hope and warmth in that space. |
I'll go with the R. Rolls Royce, Renault. | i'll go with the r rolls royce | I'll go with the, R Rolls Royce | i'll go with the r. rolls royce, renault. |
Oh, nice. And Renault, yes, both of them, uh-huh. | oh nice and. renault yes both of them | Oh nice And Renault yes both of, them | oh, nice. and renault, yes, both of them, uh-huh. |
All right, so, we need an A. | all right so we need an | All right so we need an | all right, so, we need an a. |
A and an O. | a and an | A and an | a and an o. |
I think the right to bear arms is a fundamental constitutional right, and I think Obama has realized that it is not a fight that he can win with the majority of Americans. I'd also like to touch again on FISA. This is something that the Bush administration has been reversed on, particularly in the Hamden case. And the ... | i. think the right to bear arms, is a fundamental constitutional right and i think obama has realized; that it is not a fight that he can win with, the majority of americans i'd also like to touch again on fisa this is something that the bush administration has been reversed on particularly in the. hamden case and the ... | I think the right, to bear arms is a fundamental constitutional right and I think Obama has. realized that it is not a fight that, he can win with. the majority, of Americans I'd also like to touch again on FISA This is something that the Bush administration has been reversed on particularly in the, Hamden case And the... | i think the right to bear arms is a fundamental constitutional right, and i think obama has realized that it is not a fight that he can win with the majority of americans. i'd also like to touch again on fisa. this is something that the bush administration has been reversed on, particularly in the hamden case. and the ... |
But that's going back on. | but that's going back | But that's going back | but that's going back on. |
So, this is the death of the rhetoric. | so this is the death of the | So this. is the death of the | so, this is the death of the rhetoric. |
That's rewriting the law in order to cover their tracks. It has nothing to do really with the fundamentals of privacy that are being breached in that piece of legislation. I mean, you know, we're talking about Obama going around the country singing that one of the first things he's going to do as a president is he's go... | that's rewriting the law in order to cover their tracks it. has nothing to, do really with the fundamentals of privacy that are being breached, in that piece of legislation i mean you know we're talking about obama going around the country singing that one of the first things he's going to do. as a president is he's go... | That's rewriting the law in order to cover their, tracks It has nothing, to do really with the fundamentals of privacy that are. being breached in that piece of legislation I mean you know we're talking about Obama going around the country singing that one of the first things he's going, to, do as, a president is he's ... | that's rewriting the law in order to cover their tracks. it has nothing to do really with the fundamentals of privacy that are being breached in that piece of legislation. i mean, you know, we're talking about obama going around the country singing that one of the first things he's going to do as a president is he's go... |
But he can't do it. | but he, can't do | But he, can't do; | but he can't do it. |
Can I jump in here, please. I have one comment before we move off the Obama shift here. Yes, he's weak. Yes, he's upset a lot of people on the left. But one man's flip flop is another man's sincere wish to get elected with the understanding that he has to appeal to a greater, broader audience. | can i jump in here please i have one comment before we move. off the obama; shift here yes he's weak yes he's, upset a, lot. of people on the left but one man's flip flop is another man's sincere wish to. get elected with the understanding. that he has to appeal to a greater broader | Can I jump in here please I, have one. comment before we, move off the Obama shift here Yes he's weak Yes he's upset a lot of, people on the left But one. man's flip flop is another man's sincere, wish to get elected with the understanding that, he has to appeal to a greater broader; | can i jump in here, please. i have one comment before we move off the obama shift here. yes, he's weak. yes, he's upset a lot of people on the left. but one man's flip flop is another man's sincere wish to get elected with the understanding that he has to appeal to a greater, broader audience. |
I don't disagree with that. | i don't disagree, with | I don't disagree with | i don't disagree with that. |
Can you let me finish my point here. I don't think that he is disbanding his core values, but I do know and understand very clearly that he really doesn't have a choice than to appeal to a broader audience. And so, while I understand the frustration with FISA, with a number of other changes. I don't think he really has... | can you let me finish my point here i don't think that he is disbanding his, core values but, i, do know and. understand very clearly that he really, doesn't have a choice than to appeal to, a broader audience and so while i understand the frustration with fisa with a number of other changes i don't think he really has... | Can you let me finish my point here I don't think that he is disbanding his core values, but I do know and understand very clearly that he really doesn't have a choice than to appeal to a broader audience And so while I understand the frustration with FISA. with a number of other changes. I don't think he really has a ... | can you let me finish my point here. i don't think that he is disbanding his core values, but i do know and understand very clearly that he really doesn't have a choice than to appeal to a broader audience. and so, while i understand the frustration with fisa, with a number of other changes. i don't think he really has... |
He doesn't have a voice | he doesn't have a | He doesn't have a | he doesn't have a voice |
The country is not left or right. | the country is not left or | The country is. not, left or | the country is not left or right. |
The same way that Pelosi couldn't impeach. | the same way that pelosi couldn't | The same way that Pelosi couldn't | the same way that pelosi couldn't impeach. |
Well, you know what guys I'm going to move onto other topics, because there's some really good ones. But I love the conversation. So, if, you're just tuning in this is NPR's News & Notes. I'm Farai Chideya and today's Bloggers Roundtable includes Michael D. Cobb Bowen creator of cobb.typepad.com, Liza Sabater of Cultur... | well you know what guys i'm going to move onto other topics because there's some really good ones but i love the, conversation so if you're just tuning in this is, npr's news & notes i'm farai chideya and today's bloggers roundtable includes michael d cobb bowen creator of cobb.typepad.com liza sabater. of culture kitc... | Well you know what guys I'm going to move onto other topics. because there's some really good, ones But I love the conversation So if you're just tuning in, this is. NPR's News & Notes I'm Farai Chideya and today's Bloggers Roundtable includes Michael D Cobb Bowen creator of cobb.typepad.com Liza Sabater. of Culture Ki... | well, you know what guys i'm going to move onto other topics, because there's some really good ones. but i love the conversation. so, if, you're just tuning in this is npr's news & notes. i'm farai chideya and today's bloggers roundtable includes michael d. cobb bowen creator of cobb.typepad.com, liza sabater of cultur... |
Let's talk about oil. The Iraqi government is opening six key oil fields to an international bidding process. This comes after the New York Times recently reported a series of no bid consulting contracts were to be given to a handful of American oil companies. | let's talk about. oil the iraqi government is opening six key oil fields to. an international bidding process this comes. after the new york times recently reported a series of no bid consulting contracts, were to be given to a handful of american oil | Let's talk about oil The. Iraqi, government is, opening six key oil fields to an international bidding process This comes after the New York Times, recently reported a series of no bid consulting contracts were to be given to, a handful of American oil, | let's talk about oil. the iraqi government is opening six key oil fields to an international bidding process. this comes after the new york times recently reported a series of no bid consulting contracts were to be given to a handful of american oil companies. |
They were reportedly brokered in part by a state department team of advisors. Now the White House has denied influencing Iraqi oil policy. Critics say this confirms the war was always about oil and not about weapons of mass destruction. Michael, what do you think about that? | they were reportedly brokered in, part by a state department, team of advisors now the white house has denied influencing iraqi oil policy critics say this confirms the war was always about, oil and not about weapons, of mass destruction michael what do you think about | They were reportedly brokered in part. by a state, department team of advisors Now the White, House has denied influencing, Iraqi oil policy Critics say this confirms the war was always about oil, and not about weapons of mass destruction Michael, what do you think about | they were reportedly brokered in part by a state department team of advisors. now the white house has denied influencing iraqi oil policy. critics say this confirms the war was always about oil and not about weapons of mass destruction. michael, what do you think about that? |
Well, wars are strange things and everything gets attributed to a war in the end. That's the way history is written. But as far as no bid contracts these tend to go out to the same companies, these oil services companies, which are three or four of them with the only ones in the world who can put out oil well fires, fo... | well wars are strange things and, everything gets attributed to a, war in the end, that's the way; history is written but as far as no bid contracts these tend to go out to the, same companies these, oil, services companies which are three or four of them with the only ones in the world who can put. out oil well fires ... | Well wars are strange things and everything gets attributed to, a war in the end, That's the way history is written But as far as no bid contracts these tend to go out to the same companies these oil services companies which are three, or four of. them with the only ones in the world, who can put out oil well fires for... | well, wars are strange things and everything gets attributed to a war in the end. that's the way history is written. but as far as no bid contracts these tend to go out to the same companies, these oil services companies, which are three or four of them with the only ones in the world who can put out oil well fires, fo... |
But it's not just the oil, I mean. | but it's not just the oil i | But it's not just the oil I | but it's not just the oil, i mean. |
Well. | well. | ||
Iraq has been all about no bid contracts to only American companies. So. | iraq has been, all about no bid contracts to only american companies | Iraq has been all about no bid contracts to only American companies; | iraq has been all about no bid contracts to only american companies. so. |
Here we're saying this is actually the first time that the process has been open to international companies. So, you had Saddam Hussein running this thing for 35 years, and finally once and for all, once he's been disposed and removed, the Iraqi people themselves have an opportunity to get these oil revenues. And it's ... | here, we're saying this. is actually the first time that the. process has been open to international companies so you had, saddam hussein running this thing for 35 years and finally once and. for all once he's been disposed and removed, the iraqi people. themselves have an opportunity to get these oil revenues and it's... | Here we're saying this is actually the first time that the process has been open to. international. companies So you had Saddam Hussein running. this. thing for 35 years and; finally once and for all once; he's been disposed and removed the Iraqi people themselves have an opportunity to get; these oil revenues And it's... | here we're saying this is actually the first time that the process has been open to international companies. so, you had saddam hussein running this thing for 35 years, and finally once and for all, once he's been disposed and removed, the iraqi people themselves have an opportunity to get these oil revenues. and it's ... |
Why do you think that it is the Iraqi's? I mean... | why do you think that; it is the iraqi's? i | Why do you, think that it is the Iraqi's? I | why do you think that it is the iraqi's? i mean... |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
Go ahead. | go | Go; | go ahead. |
It's done in broad public and the Iraqi's actually, obviously can't do that. They don't have the infrastructure right now to have companies that could compete with say Petronas or Maersk or one of the other many oil companies that are (unintelligible). | it's done, in broad public and the iraqi's actually obviously can't do that, they don't have the infrastructure right now to have companies that could compete with say. petronas or maersk or one of the other many oil companies that are | It's done in broad public and the Iraqi's actually obviously can't do that They don't have the infrastructure right now to have companies that could compete with say Petronas or. Maersk or one of the. other many oil companies that are | it's done in broad public and the iraqi's actually, obviously can't do that. they don't have the infrastructure right now to have companies that could compete with say petronas or maersk or one of the other many oil companies that are (unintelligible). |
Let me, let me.... | let, me. let | Let me let | let me, let me.... |
Here's the thing that... | here's, the thing | Here's the thing | here's the thing that... |
Go ahead. | go | Go | go ahead. |
Sorry. | sorry. | ||
So, I would basically say this is a move for the positive and it kind of demystifies a process that a lot of people have been putting a lot of fear, uncertainty, and distrust about. Well now it's clear that (unintelligible). | so i would basically say this, is a move for, the positive and it kind of demystifies a process that a lot of people have been putting a lot of; fear uncertainty. and distrust about well now it's clear that | So I would basically say this is a move for the positive and it kind of demystifies a process that a lot of people have been putting a. lot of fear uncertainty and. distrust about Well now it's clear that | so, i would basically say this is a move for the positive and it kind of demystifies a process that a lot of people have been putting a lot of fear, uncertainty, and distrust about. well now it's clear that (unintelligible). |
Michael. | michael. | ||
Michael. | michael. | ||
Go ahead. | go | Go | go ahead. |
In this discussion why do we lose sight that we went to war for something else? | in this discussion why, do we. lose sight that we went to war for something | In this discussion why do we lose sight that we went to war for something | in this discussion why do we lose sight that we went to war for something else? |
Right. | right. | ||
We went to war for completely different reasons, and as of last week 4,116 men and women have lost their lives in combat. So, how we can have this discussion and not even make mention of the reason why we went to Iraq in the first place. | we, went to war for completely different reasons and as of last week 4,116 men and women. have lost their, lives in combat so how we can have this, discussion and not even make mention of. the reason why we went to iraq in the first | We. went to war for completely different reasons and as of last week 4,116 men and women have lost their lives in combat So how we can have this discussion and not even make mention of the. reason why we went to Iraq in the first | we went to war for completely different reasons, and as of last week 4,116 men and women have lost their lives in combat. so, how we can have this discussion and not even make mention of the reason why we went to iraq in the first place. |
Right. | right. | ||
I - it's lost on me and does that not make - does not - does anybody else not feel hoodwinked and bamboozled here? | i - it's lost. on me and does that not make - does not - does anybody else not feel hoodwinked and bamboozled, | I - it's lost on me and does that not make - does not - does anybody else, not feel, hoodwinked and bamboozled | i - it's lost on me and does that not make - does not - does anybody else not feel hoodwinked and bamboozled here? |
Absolutely. And not only that but the cost, the human cost. There's 1.5 million refugees, Iraqi refugees, | absolutely and not only that but the cost the human cost there's 1.5 million refugees iraqi | Absolutely And not only that but the cost, the human cost. There's, 1.5 million. refugees Iraqi | absolutely. and not only that but the cost, the human cost. there's 1.5 million refugees, iraqi refugees, |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
Bill, thanks very much, and we appreciate your advice. | bill thanks very much and we appreciate your | Bill thanks very, much. and we appreciate your | bill, thanks very much, and we appreciate your advice. |
Thank you. | thank, | Thank | thank you. |
And in all the adjacent countries, two million internal refugees displaced in the country. Fifty percent of them are children under the age of 15, and we're talking about an unemployment rate within Iraqis right now, about what was it the last time I read, 80 percent? I mean it's ridiculous. This is not going to the Ir... | and in all the adjacent countries two million internal refugees displaced in the country, fifty percent of them are children under the age of 15, and we're talking about an unemployment rate within iraqis right now about what, was it the last time i read 80 percent? i mean it's. ridiculous this is not going, to the ira... | And in all the adjacent, countries, two million internal refugees displaced; in the country Fifty percent of them are children under the. age of 15, and we're talking about an. unemployment rate. within Iraqis right now about what, was it the last time I read 80 percent? I mean it's ridiculous This is not going to, the... | and in all the adjacent countries, two million internal refugees displaced in the country. fifty percent of them are children under the age of 15, and we're talking about an unemployment rate within iraqis right now, about what was it the last time i read, 80 percent? i mean it's ridiculous. this is not going to the ir... |
I would love to see all Americans join in any relief efforts and provide humanitarian aid, but we all know that can't be done until the country is secure. Even the U.N. left the Green Zone. So, there's a certain amount of pacification that has to be done obviously, so we can help. | i would love to, see all americans join in any relief efforts and. provide humanitarian aid but we all know. that can't be done until the country. is secure even the, u.n left the green zone so there's a certain amount of. pacification that has to be done obviously so we can | I would love to, see all. Americans join in any. relief efforts and, provide humanitarian aid but we all know that can't be done until the country is secure; Even the, U.N, left the Green. Zone So there's a certain amount of pacification that has to be done obviously so we can | i would love to see all americans join in any relief efforts and provide humanitarian aid, but we all know that can't be done until the country is secure. even the u.n. left the green zone. so, there's a certain amount of pacification that has to be done obviously, so we can help. |
Humanitarian aid doesn't even begin to address... | humanitarian aid; doesn't even begin to | Humanitarian aid. doesn't, even begin to. | humanitarian aid doesn't even begin to address... |
Michael, the question that sparked this part of the discussion was, was it all about oil in the first place? And I remember I was sitting in front of a television and it was about weapons of mass destruction. | michael the question that sparked this part of the, discussion was was it all about oil in the first place? and, i remember i was. sitting, in; front of a television and it was about weapons of mass | Michael the question that sparked this part of the discussion was was it all about oil in the, first place? And I remember I was sitting in front of a television and it was about weapons, of. mass | michael, the question that sparked this part of the discussion was, was it all about oil in the first place? and i remember i was sitting in front of a television and it was about weapons of mass destruction. |
Absolutely. | absolutely. | ||
So, I just ask you to - and you know, those who subscribe to your thinking, that that be considered in your discussion or in your thinking. | so i just ask you to - and you know those who subscribe to your thinking that that be considered in your, discussion or in your | So I just ask you to - and. you know those who subscribe to your thinking that that be considered in your discussion or in your | so, i just ask you to - and you know, those who subscribe to your thinking, that that be considered in your discussion or in your thinking. |
Well, it's more than a discussion... | well it's more than a | Well it's more than a | well, it's more than a discussion... |
Didn't Alan Greenspan... | didn't alan; | Didn't. Alan | didn't alan greenspan... |
Because, we have lost a lot of lives, and Liza just brought up the number of refugees in Iraq, so that can't be dismissed. | because we have lost a lot. of lives and liza just brought up the number of refugees in iraq so that can't be | Because we have lost a lot of lives and Liza. just brought. up the number. of refugees in Iraq so that can't be | because, we have lost a lot of lives, and liza just brought up the number of refugees in iraq, so that can't be dismissed. |
It cannot be dismissed. | it cannot be | It cannot be | it cannot be dismissed. |
And Alan Greenspan, didn't he come out a few months ago saying it was all about oil. | and alan greenspan didn't he, come, out a few months ago saying it was all about | And. Alan Greenspan didn't he. come out, a few months ago saying, it was all about | and alan greenspan, didn't he come out a few months ago saying it was all about oil. |
It's in his book. | it's in his | It's in. his | it's in his book. |
Well, here's - let's say it's all about oil. | well here's - let's say it's all about | Well here's - let's say. it's all about | well, here's - let's say it's all about oil. |
He's the guy that made our economy, you know. | he's. the guy that made our economy you | He's the guy that made our economy you | he's the guy that made our economy, you know. |
When will we hear someone saying - again these six fields are going to produce about 1.5 million barrels of oil, which is a significant something for Iraqis because they're doing two point - two and a quarter right now. But if we opened up ANWR that would give us half of that oil and it would be all of ours. So the qu... | when will we hear someone, saying - again these six fields are going to produce about 1.5 million barrels of oil which is a significant something for iraqis because they're doing two, point - two and a quarter right now but if we opened up anwr that. would give us half of that oil and it would be all, of ours, so the ... | When will we hear someone saying - again these six, fields are going to produce about 1.5 million barrels of oil which is, a significant something for Iraqis because they're. doing two point - two and a quarter right now, But if, we opened up ANWR that would give us half of that oil and it. would be all of ours So the... | when will we hear someone saying - again these six fields are going to produce about 1.5 million barrels of oil, which is a significant something for iraqis because they're doing two point - two and a quarter right now. but if we opened up anwr that would give us half of that oil and it would be all of ours. so the qu... |
No, but this is wrong. This is absolutely wrong. We... | no. but this is wrong this is absolutely wrong | No but. this is wrong This is absolutely wrong | no, but this is wrong. this is absolutely wrong. we... |
But let me just ask this question... | but let me just ask this | But, let me just ask this | but let me just ask this question... |
Sorry guys. We're going to have to wrap up this topic because I want to make sure and get something in, particularly because Sharon and Liza, you're in New York. There's the video of a woman collapsing and dying in a Brooklyn, New York hospital emergency room last month. The surveillance video shows 49-year-old Esmin G... | sorry guys we're going to have to wrap up this topic, because i want; to make sure and get something in particularly because sharon and liza. you're in new york. there's the. video of. a woman collapsing and dying, in a brooklyn new york hospital emergency room last month the surveillance video shows 49-year-old esmin;... | Sorry guys We're going. to have to wrap up this topic because. I want to. make, sure and get something in particularly because Sharon and Liza you're in New York There's the video of a woman collapsing and, dying in a Brooklyn New York hospital emergency; room last month The surveillance video shows 49-year-old Esmin G... | sorry guys. we're going to have to wrap up this topic because i want to make sure and get something in, particularly because sharon and liza, you're in new york. there's the video of a woman collapsing and dying in a brooklyn, new york hospital emergency room last month. the surveillance video shows 49-year-old esmin g... |
Well, you know, it's the - unfortunately, people are not shocked by it. And I hate to say that, particularly because it's a - you know, a public-run hospital. Anybody's who's gone to - I've actually been in the emergency room of Kingsboro Hospital - and many years ago and it traumatized me to no end. So it's just - and... | well you know it's the - unfortunately people are not shocked by it, and i hate to say, that particularly because it's a. - you know. a public-run hospital anybody's who's gone to - i've actually been in the emergency room, of kingsboro hospital - and many years; ago and it traumatized me to no end so it's just - and i... | Well you know it's the - unfortunately people are not shocked by it And, I, hate to say that particularly because it's. a - you know. a public-run. hospital Anybody's who's gone, to - I've actually. been, in the, emergency room of, Kingsboro Hospital - and many years. ago and it traumatized me to no end So it's just - ... | well, you know, it's the - unfortunately, people are not shocked by it. and i hate to say that, particularly because it's a - you know, a public-run hospital. anybody's who's gone to - i've actually been in the emergency room of kingsboro hospital - and many years ago and it traumatized me to no end. so it's just - and... |
Jamaican. | jamaican. | ||
Jamaica. She was from Jamaica, right. So, her whole story, especially with how brutal - I mean, she was in New York, but this country has had such a brutal backlash against immigrants, whether documented or undocumented. And then we have the whole economic, you know, breakdown of the health system and so it's - you kno... | jamaica she was, from jamaica right. so her whole story especially with how. brutal - i mean she was in new york but this. country has had such a brutal backlash against, immigrants whether documented or undocumented and then we have the whole economic you know breakdown of the health system and, so it's - you know it'... | Jamaica She was; from Jamaica right So her whole story especially with, how brutal - I mean she was in, New York but this country has had such a brutal backlash against immigrants whether documented or, undocumented And, then we have, the whole economic you know breakdown of the health system. and, so it's - you know i... | jamaica. she was from jamaica, right. so, her whole story, especially with how brutal - i mean, she was in new york, but this country has had such a brutal backlash against immigrants, whether documented or undocumented. and then we have the whole economic, you know, breakdown of the health system and so it's - you kno... |
I'm going to have to keep it tight with you guys, Liza and Michael. Michael first. Do you think that this is a microcosm as, you know - I mean Sharon and Michael, do you think it's a microcosm, as Liza says, or is it a random incident? | i'm going to have to. keep it tight with you guys liza. and michael michael first do you think that this is a microcosm as you know - i mean sharon and michael, do you think it's. a microcosm, as liza says or. is it a random | I'm going to have to keep it tight with you guys Liza and Michael Michael. first Do you think that this, is a microcosm as, you know - I mean Sharon and Michael do you. think it's a microcosm as Liza says or is it a random | i'm going to have to keep it tight with you guys, liza and michael. michael first. do you think that this is a microcosm as, you know - i mean sharon and michael, do you think it's a microcosm, as liza says, or is it a random incident? |
It's a continuing tragedy. | it's a continuing | It's a continuing | it's a continuing tragedy. |
No, I think it's more than a random incident. It's the same thing happened, I believe its Kings/Drew(ph) hospital in Los Angeles? | no i think it's more; than a random incident it's the same thing happened. i believe its kings/drew(ph) hospital in los | No I think it's more than a random incident It's the same thing happened I believe its. Kings/Drew(ph) hospital in Los | no, i think it's more than a random incident. it's the same thing happened, i believe its kings/drew(ph) hospital in los angeles? |
Kings Drew. | kings | Kings | kings drew. |
It was an emergency room. Ms. Green, Esmin Green was in the psychiatric unit of Kings County hospital. And yes the hospital has had some serious problems in the past. But it really is a testament to that poor people really have it bad when it comes to healthcare. But poor people with mental health issues really, really... | it was an emergency room ms green esmin green was in the psychiatric unit of kings county hospital, and yes the hospital has had some serious problems in the past but it really is a testament to that poor people really have it bad when it comes to healthcare but poor people with mental health issues really really have ... | It was, an emergency. room Ms Green Esmin Green was in the psychiatric unit of Kings County, hospital And, yes the hospital has had some serious problems in. the past But. it really is a testament to that poor people really have it bad when it, comes to healthcare But poor people with mental health issues really really... | it was an emergency room. ms. green, esmin green was in the psychiatric unit of kings county hospital. and yes the hospital has had some serious problems in the past. but it really is a testament to that poor people really have it bad when it comes to healthcare. but poor people with mental health issues really, really... |
I have to give Michael the last word. | i have, to give. michael the last | I have to give Michael the last | i have to give michael the last word. |
Sorry. | sorry. | ||
I think sadly this is kind of one of those - what struck me is that people are - should be traumatized, but there is a certain expectation that we believe that people have the right to sleep in public places. And I think the reason this could be overlooked is because we have gotten used to seeing people sleeping in pub... | i think, sadly this is kind of one of those - what struck me is that people are - should be traumatized but there is a certain expectation that we believe that, people have the right to sleep in public places and i think the reason this could be overlooked is. because we have gotten used to seeing people sleeping in. p... | I think sadly this is kind of one of those - what struck me. is that people are - should be traumatized but. there is a certain expectation that we believe; that. people have the right to, sleep in public, places And I think the reason this, could. be. overlooked is because we have gotten used to, seeing people sleepin... | i think sadly this is kind of one of those - what struck me is that people are - should be traumatized, but there is a certain expectation that we believe that people have the right to sleep in public places. and i think the reason this could be overlooked is because we have gotten used to seeing people sleeping in pub... |
Well guys, on that sobering note, I want to thank you all for our Roundtable today. | well guys, on that sobering note i want to thank you all for. our roundtable | Well guys on that sobering note I want to thank you all for. our Roundtable | well guys, on that sobering note, i want to thank you all for our roundtable today. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
Michael D. Cobb Bowen, is the creator of cobb.typepad.com. He joined us in our NPR West studios, in Culver City, California. Liza Sabater publishes the community blog Culture Kitchen. She was at our NPR studios in New York. And Sharon Toomer's founder and managing editor of blackandbrownnews.com. | michael d cobb bowen is the creator. of cobb.typepad.com he joined us in our npr west studios in culver city california. liza sabater publishes the community blog culture kitchen she was at our, npr studios in new york and sharon toomer's founder and managing editor of | Michael D Cobb Bowen is the creator, of cobb.typepad.com He joined. us in our NPR West, studios in Culver City California Liza Sabater publishes the community blog Culture Kitchen She was at our NPR studios in New York And Sharon Toomer's founder and, managing, editor of | michael d. cobb bowen, is the creator of cobb.typepad.com. he joined us in our npr west studios, in culver city, california. liza sabater publishes the community blog culture kitchen. she was at our npr studios in new york. and sharon toomer's founder and managing editor of blackandbrownnews.com. |
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