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Is the show over yet? So anyway, I'm looking for a state, not Pennsylvania, not Virginia, not North Carolina, not Indiana, a state in the 20th century that has gone the longest without a governor being defeated for re-election. You don't have to name the governor. You have to still be awake after this question and name... | is the show over yet? so anyway, i'm looking for a state not pennsylvania not virginia not north carolina not indiana a state in. the 20th century that has gone the longest without a governor being defeated for re-election you don't have to name the governor you; have to still be awake after this question and name the | Is the show over. yet? So anyway I'm looking for a state not Pennsylvania, not Virginia not North Carolina not Indiana a. state, in the 20th century that has gone the longest without a governor being defeated for re-election You don't have to name the governor You have to still be awake after, this, question and name t... | is the show over yet? so anyway, i'm looking for a state, not pennsylvania, not virginia, not north carolina, not indiana, a state in the 20th century that has gone the longest without a governor being defeated for re-election. you don't have to name the governor. you have to still be awake after this question and name... |
Name the state. So if you think you know the answer to this week's trivia question... | name the state so if you think you know the answer to; this week's trivia | Name the state, So if you think you know the answer to this week's trivia | name the state. so if you think you know the answer to this week's trivia question... |
What was the question again? | what, was the question | What was the question | what was the question again? |
Well, that's the state that has gone the longest in the 20th century without defeating a governor for re-election. Is that... | well that's the; state that has gone the longest in the 20th century without defeating a governor for re-election. is | Well. that's the state that has gone, the longest in the 20th century without defeating a governor for re-election Is | well, that's the state that has gone the longest in the 20th century without defeating a governor for re-election. is that... |
That's fair. | that's | That's | that's fair. |
That's fair. It's not Pennsylvania, not Virginia, not North Carolina, not Indiana. We'll give you those hints. Only 46 others to go, 800-989-8255. Email us, talk@npr.org. The winner, of course, gets a free political junkie T-shirt and the fabulous political junkie no-prize button. | that's fair it's not pennsylvania not virginia not north. carolina not indiana we'll give you those hints only 46 others. to go 800-989-8255. email us, talk@npr.org the. winner of course. gets a free political, junkie t-shirt and the fabulous political junkie no-prize | That's. fair It's not Pennsylvania. not Virginia not North Carolina not Indiana We'll give you those hints Only 46 others to go, 800-989-8255. Email us, talk@npr.org The, winner. of. course gets a free political junkie T-shirt. and the fabulous political junkie no-prize | that's fair. it's not pennsylvania, not virginia, not north carolina, not indiana. we'll give you those hints. only 46 others to go, 800-989-8255. email us, talk@npr.org. the winner, of course, gets a free political junkie t-shirt and the fabulous political junkie no-prize button. |
You said that much faster than I could. | you said that much faster than. i | You said that much faster than I | you said that much faster than i could. |
Because we're almost out of time here. In the meantime, we have to go to the State of the Union message last night, and really we're going to be talking much more about this later in the program, but a follow-on to the inaugural address. | because we're almost out of. time here in the meantime we have to go to the state of the union message last night and really we're going, to be talking much, more about this later in. the program but a. follow-on to the inaugural | Because we're almost out of time here In the meantime we have to go to the State of the Union message. last night, and really we're going, to be talking much more about this later in the program but a follow-on to the inaugural | because we're almost out of time here. in the meantime, we have to go to the state of the union message last night, and really we're going to be talking much more about this later in the program, but a follow-on to the inaugural address. |
It was. It was - you know, if we talked about presidents in the past and talked about the limitations of government, and even Bill Clinton, who tried to triangulate, talking about the era of big government is over, Barack Obama did not say that. He talked about that there was an important role for the purpose for the r... | it was it was - you know if we talked about presidents in the past and talked about the limitations of government, and even bill clinton, who tried, to, triangulate talking about the era of big government is over barack obama did not say that he talked about that there was; an important role, for the purpose for. the r... | It was It was - you know if we talked about presidents in the past and talked about the limitations of. government and even Bill Clinton who tried to triangulate, talking about the era of big government is over Barack Obama did not. say that He talked about that there was an important role for the purpose for the role ... | it was. it was - you know, if we talked about presidents in the past and talked about the limitations of government, and even bill clinton, who tried to triangulate, talking about the era of big government is over, barack obama did not say that. he talked about that there was an important role for the purpose for the r... |
And it was really - really he said look, if Congress doesn't go along with me, I'll do it on executive action. | and it was really - really he said look if congress doesn't go along with me i'll do it on executive | And it was really - really he said look if Congress doesn't go along with me I'll do it on executive | and it was really - really he said look, if congress doesn't go along with me, i'll do it on executive action. |
And here's an example of that, where he talked about the need for some action on climate change. | and here's an example of that where he talked about. the need for some, action on climate | And here's an example of, that where he talked about the need for some action on climate | and here's an example of that, where he talked about the need for some action on climate change. |
I urge this Congress to get together, pursue a bipartisan, market-based solution to climate change like the one John McCain and Joe Lieberman worked on together a few years ago. But if Congress won't act soon to protect future generations, I will. | i urge, this congress to get together pursue. a. bipartisan market-based solution to climate change. like the one john mccain and joe lieberman worked on together a few; years ago but if congress won't, act soon. to; protect future generations i | I urge this Congress to get together pursue. a. bipartisan market-based solution to climate, change like the one John McCain, and Joe Lieberman worked on together a few years ago But if Congress won't act soon to protect. future generations I | i urge this congress to get together, pursue a bipartisan, market-based solution to climate change like the one john mccain and joe lieberman worked on together a few years ago. but if congress won't act soon to protect future generations, i will. |
And that's a vow to use the regulatory powers of the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate coal-fired plants and carbon emissions. | and that's. a vow to use the. regulatory, powers of the environmental protection agency to regulate coal-fired plants and carbon | And that's a vow to use, the regulatory powers of the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate coal-fired plants and carbon | and that's a vow to use the regulatory powers of the environmental protection agency to regulate coal-fired plants and carbon emissions. |
That's exactly right, but I think the biggest emotional part of the entire address was of course his appeal for those people who deserve a vote, the Gabby Giffords, the people in Newtown. There were so many victims or family victims - family members of victims of gun violence throughout the congressional House chamber ... | that's exactly right but i think the biggest emotional part of the entire address was of course his appeal, for those people; who deserve a vote, the gabby giffords the people. in newtown there were so many victims or family victims - family members of victims of; gun violence throughout the congressional house chamber... | That's exactly right but I think the biggest emotional, part. of the entire address was of course his appeal for those people who deserve a vote the Gabby Giffords the people in Newtown There were so many victims or family victims - family members of victims of gun violence throughout the congressional, House chamber l... | that's exactly right, but i think the biggest emotional part of the entire address was of course his appeal for those people who deserve a vote, the gabby giffords, the people in newtown. there were so many victims or family victims - family members of victims of gun violence throughout the congressional house chamber ... |
But very few moments in the speech where both sides of the chamber stood up and applauded together. Perhaps immigration was the only moment there. But there is of course the Republican response, and the up-and-comer in the Republican Party, the senator from Florida, Marco Rubio, and, well, everybody would - including h... | but very few moments. in the. speech where both sides of the chamber stood up and applauded together perhaps immigration was the only moment there but there is of course the republican response and the up-and-comer in the republican party the; senator. from florida marco rubio and well everybody would - including him w... | But very few moments in, the speech where both sides of the chamber stood up and applauded together Perhaps immigration was the only moment there But there is of course the Republican response, and the up-and-comer in the Republican Party the senator from Florida Marco Rubio and well, everybody, would - including him w... | but very few moments in the speech where both sides of the chamber stood up and applauded together. perhaps immigration was the only moment there. but there is of course the republican response, and the up-and-comer in the republican party, the senator from florida, marco rubio, and, well, everybody would - including h... |
SEN. MARCO RUBIO: Presidents in both parties, from John F. Kennedy to Ronald Reagan, have known that our free-enterprise economy is the source of our middle-class prosperity. But President Obama, he believes it's the cause of our problems. | sen marco rubio: presidents in both parties from john f kennedy to ronald reagan, have known that. our free-enterprise economy is. the source of our middle-class prosperity but president obama he believes it's the cause of our | SEN; MARCO RUBIO: Presidents in both. parties from John F Kennedy to Ronald. Reagan, have. known that our free-enterprise economy is the source of our, middle-class prosperity But President Obama he believes it's the cause of. our | sen. marco rubio: presidents in both parties, from john f. kennedy to ronald reagan, have known that our free-enterprise economy is the source of our middle-class prosperity. but president obama, he believes it's the cause of our problems. |
Instead what people are remembering is Senator Rubio reaching off-camera for a bottle of water. | instead what people are remembering is senator rubio reaching off-camera for a bottle of | Instead what people are remembering is Senator Rubio reaching off-camera. for a bottle of | instead what people are remembering is senator rubio reaching off-camera for a bottle of water. |
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Yeah, no, it was very surprising, I thought. I mean, people will always remember these things, remember when Bill Clinton of course gave his famous in conclusion speech, nominating Michael Dukakis in '88, and... | yeah no it was very surprising i thought i mean people will always. remember these things remember when bill clinton of course gave his famous in, conclusion speech nominating michael dukakis in | Yeah no it was very surprising I thought I mean people will always remember; these things remember when Bill Clinton of course gave his famous in conclusion speech nominating Michael Dukakis in | yeah, no, it was very surprising, i thought. i mean, people will always remember these things, remember when bill clinton of course gave his famous in conclusion speech, nominating michael dukakis in '88, and... |
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Ken's is filled with gin, of course. | ken's. is filled with gin of | Ken's is filled, with gin of | ken's is filled with gin, of course. |
Sorry, sorry, but I'm - but he was able to mock himself, make fun of himself this morning on "Good Morning America." He was with George Stephanopoulos, and Stephanopoulos was asking him a question. And of course he reached over for some water. Last night he tweeted, Marco Rubio tweeted the actual bottle of water that h... | sorry sorry but i'm - but he was, able to mock himself make, fun of himself this morning on. "good morning america" he was with george stephanopoulos and, stephanopoulos was. asking him a question and of course, he reached over for some water last night he tweeted marco rubio tweeted the actual bottle of water that he,... | Sorry sorry but. I'm - but he was able to mock himself make fun, of himself this morning on "Good Morning America" He was with George Stephanopoulos and Stephanopoulos was asking him a question And of course he reached over for. some water, Last night he tweeted Marco Rubio tweeted the actual bottle of water. that he r... | sorry, sorry, but i'm - but he was able to mock himself, make fun of himself this morning on "good morning america." he was with george stephanopoulos, and stephanopoulos was asking him a question. and of course he reached over for some water. last night he tweeted, marco rubio tweeted the actual bottle of water that h... |
It was a memorable moment, but it really - we should really focus on what the Republican Party was trying to do, and that is get somebody young, get a new face, get a Hispanic, which is not bad... | it was a memorable moment but it really - we should really focus on what the republican party was trying to do and that is get. somebody young get a new face get a hispanic which is not | It was a memorable moment but it really - we should really focus on what the Republican Party was. trying to do and that is, get somebody young, get a new face get a Hispanic which is, not | it was a memorable moment, but it really - we should really focus on what the republican party was trying to do, and that is get somebody young, get a new face, get a hispanic, which is not bad... |
Because he also made the speech in Spanish, separately, without a gulp, I think. | because he also made the speech in spanish separately without a gulp i | Because he also made, the, speech in Spanish separately without a gulp I | because he also made the speech in spanish, separately, without a gulp, i think. |
He did, but again of course he didn't talk about those kind of issues. It was the same kind of boilerplate Republican response: the government is getting too big, there's too much, this will lead to higher taxes. But it was, you know, a newer face, and we'll see what it does. I mean... | he did but. again of course. he didn't, talk about those kind of issues it was the same kind of boilerplate republican response: the, government, is getting, too big there's too much this will lead to higher taxes but it. was. you know a newer face and we'll see what. it does i | He did but again of course he didn't talk about those kind of issues It was, the same kind of boilerplate Republican response: the government is getting too big there's too much this will lead to higher taxes But it was, you, know a. newer face and we'll see what it does I | he did, but again of course he didn't talk about those kind of issues. it was the same kind of boilerplate republican response: the government is getting too big, there's too much, this will lead to higher taxes. but it was, you know, a newer face, and we'll see what it does. i mean... |
And a model of unity since there was only one other Republican response, Rand Paul, the senator from Kentucky, speaking on behalf of the Tea Party. [POST-BROADCAST CORRECTION: The following audio clip is not of Sen. Rand Paul responding to the State of the Union address. It is of Ron Paul, his father, who commented on... | and a model of. unity since there was only one, other republican response rand. paul the senator, from, kentucky speaking on behalf, of the tea party [post-broadcast correction: the. following audio clip is not of sen rand, paul responding to the state of the union address it is, of ron paul his father who commented o... | And a; model of unity since there, was only, one other Republican response Rand Paul the senator from Kentucky speaking on behalf of the Tea Party [POST-BROADCAST. CORRECTION: The following audio clip is not of Sen Rand Paul responding to the State of the Union address It is of Ron Paul his father who. commented, on t... | and a model of unity since there was only one other republican response, rand paul, the senator from kentucky, speaking on behalf of the tea party. [post-broadcast correction: the following audio clip is not of sen. rand paul responding to the state of the union address. it is of ron paul, his father, who commented on... |
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Tonight, you know, he talked about - a lot about gun control. I don't think the American people are going to put up with that. | tonight you know he talked about - a lot about gun control i, don't, think the, american people are going to put up with | Tonight you know he talked about - a lot about gun control I, don't think the American people are going to put. up with | tonight, you know, he talked about - a lot about gun control. i don't think the american people are going to put up with that. |
And, well, he went on, both parties he blamed, of course, for greater spending and the typical Tea Party line. But it shows those divisions again in the Republican Party. | and well he went on both parties he blamed of course for, greater spending and the, typical tea party line but, it shows those; divisions again, in the republican | And well he went on both parties he blamed. of course for greater spending and the typical Tea Party line But it; shows those divisions again in the Republican | and, well, he went on, both parties he blamed, of course, for greater spending and the typical tea party line. but it shows those divisions again in the republican party. |
Which President Obama is very anxious and very happy, thank you very much, to take advantage of, yes. | which president obama is very anxious, and very happy thank you very much to take advantage of | Which President Obama is; very, anxious and very happy thank you very much to take advantage of | which president obama is very anxious and very happy, thank you very much, to take advantage of, yes. |
In the meantime, we have some people on the line who think they understand this week's trivia question... | in the. meantime we. have some people. on the line who, think they, understand this, week's trivia | In, the meantime we have some people on the line who think they understand this, week's trivia | in the meantime, we have some people on the line who think they understand this week's trivia question... |
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And have suggested answers. That is the state that in the 20th century, last - has not defeated - the longest-running state where a governor has not been defeated for re-election except for the four - 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org. Mark(ph) is on the line from Birmingham. | and have suggested answers that is. the state that in the 20th century last - has not defeated - the. longest-running state where a governor, has not been, defeated for re-election except for the four. - 800-989-8255. email. talk@npr.org mark(ph) is, on the line from | And. have suggested answers That is, the state that in the 20th century last - has not defeated - the longest-running state where a governor; has, not been defeated for; re-election except for the four - 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org Mark(ph) is on. the line from | and have suggested answers. that is the state that in the 20th century, last - has not defeated - the longest-running state where a governor has not been defeated for re-election except for the four - 800-989-8255. email talk@npr.org. mark(ph) is on the line from birmingham. |
Hi. | hi. | ||
Hi, go ahead, Mark. | hi go ahead | Hi go ahead | hi, go ahead, mark. |
Is the answer Alabama? | is, the answer | Is the answer | is the answer alabama? |
Yeah, Sherman the frog Tribbitt, Tribbitt. All right, thanks, Joel. Let's go to - this is Mark(ph) and Mark with us from Hampton, Iowa. | yeah sherman the frog tribbitt tribbitt all right thanks joel let's go to - this is mark(ph) and mark with us, from hampton | Yeah Sherman the frog Tribbitt, Tribbitt All. right thanks Joel Let's go to - this is, Mark(ph) and Mark with us from Hampton | yeah, sherman the frog tribbitt, tribbitt. all right, thanks, joel. let's go to - this is mark(ph) and mark with us from hampton, iowa. |
Is it Iowa? | is it | Is it | is it iowa? |
Wow, no actually Chet Culver, the Democrat, was just defeated two years ago, three years ago by Terry Branstad. He was defeated in 2010. | wow no actually chet culver the democrat was just defeated two years ago, three years ago by terry, branstad; he was defeated in | Wow no actually Chet Culver the Democrat was just defeated two years ago three years ago by Terry Branstad He was defeated in | wow, no actually chet culver, the democrat, was just defeated two years ago, three years ago by terry branstad. he was defeated in 2010. |
Thanks very much, Mark. Let's go to John(ph) and John with us from Waterloo, Iowa. | thanks very much mark, let's go to john(ph) and john with us from waterloo | Thanks very much Mark Let's go to. John(ph) and John with us from Waterloo. | thanks very much, mark. let's go to john(ph) and john with us from waterloo, iowa. |
Would it be Louisiana? | would it be | Would it be | would it be louisiana? |
Louisiana, no, how's bayou, as I would say. But David Treen, the Republican, was beaten by Edwin Edwards in 1983. | louisiana no how's bayou as i would say, but david treen the republican was beaten, by edwin edwards in | Louisiana no how's bayou as I would say But. David Treen the, Republican was beaten by Edwin Edwards in | louisiana, no, how's bayou, as i would say. but david treen, the republican, was beaten by edwin edwards in 1983. |
Wow, OK. | wow | Wow | wow, ok. |
Let's go to - this is - excuse me, I've got the things messed up. There's - Bobby's(ph) on the line with us from St. Augustine. | let's, go to - this is. - excuse me i've got the, things messed up there's - bobby's(ph) on the line with us from st | Let's go to - this is - excuse; me I've got the things messed; up There's - Bobby's(ph) on the line with. us, from St. | let's go to - this is - excuse me, i've got the things messed up. there's - bobby's(ph) on the line with us from st. augustine. |
Is it Nevada? | is. it | Is it | is it nevada? |
Nevada? | nevada? | ||
Nevada, actually, we had - that's also very recent. Jim Gibbons, the Republican, was defeated in 2010 in the primary. So that's just two, three years ago. | nevada actually we had - that's also very recent jim gibbons the. republican was defeated in 2010 in the primary so; that's just two three years | Nevada actually we had - that's also very recent Jim Gibbons the Republican was, defeated in 2010 in the primary So that's just two three years | nevada, actually, we had - that's also very recent. jim gibbons, the republican, was defeated in 2010 in the primary. so that's just two, three years ago. |
OK, let's see if we can go next to Emily(ph), Emily with us from Charleston, South Carolina. | ok let's see if we can go next to emily(ph), emily with us from charleston south | OK, let's see if we can go next to Emily(ph), Emily with us from, Charleston South | ok, let's see if we can go next to emily(ph), emily with us from charleston, south carolina. |
Hi there. Excuse me, is it Wisconsin? | hi there excuse me is it | Hi there, Excuse. me is it | hi there. excuse me, is it wisconsin? |
The Badger State? | the badger | The Badger | the badger state? |
No, Wisconsin actually go back a little further, but it's 1986, Tony Earl was beaten by I think Tommy Thompson in 1986. | no wisconsin actually go back a little, further but it's 1986, tony earl. was beaten by. i think tommy thompson in | No Wisconsin actually go back a little. further but it's 1986, Tony Earl was, beaten by; I think Tommy. Thompson in | no, wisconsin actually go back a little further, but it's 1986, tony earl was beaten by i think tommy thompson in 1986. |
Well, good try. | well good | Well good | well, good try. |
All right, very good try. All right, 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org. And well, there was some measures that did get through Congress and then back to the bad old days, yesterday, in the Senate Armed Services Committee and a bitter battle over the nomination of Chuck Hagel to be the next secretary of defense. | all right very good try all right 800-989-8255. email talk@npr.org and well there was some measures that did get through congress and then back, to the bad old days yesterday in the senate armed services committee and a bitter battle over the nomination of chuck, hagel to be the next. secretary of | All, right very good try, All right 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org And well there was some measures that did get through Congress and then back to the bad, old. days. yesterday, in the Senate Armed Services Committee and a bitter battle over. the nomination of Chuck Hagel to be the next secretary of | all right, very good try. all right, 800-989-8255. email talk@npr.org. and well, there was some measures that did get through congress and then back to the bad old days, yesterday, in the senate armed services committee and a bitter battle over the nomination of chuck hagel to be the next secretary of defense. |
That was extremely bitter. It was a two-hour debate in the House Armed Services Committee. And now of course there have been Cabinet nominees defeated in the past, we remember John Tower in 1989, first President Bush's nominee for secretary of defense. But Hagel got a rough go of it. | that was extremely bitter it was a two-hour debate in the house armed services committee and now of course there have been cabinet nominees defeated in. the past we remember john tower in 1989, first president bush's nominee for secretary of defense but hagel got a rough go of | That was extremely bitter It was a two-hour debate in the House Armed Services Committee And now of course there have been Cabinet, nominees defeated in the past we remember John Tower in 1989, first President Bush's nominee, for secretary of defense But Hagel got a rough go of | that was extremely bitter. it was a two-hour debate in the house armed services committee. and now of course there have been cabinet nominees defeated in the past, we remember john tower in 1989, first president bush's nominee for secretary of defense. but hagel got a rough go of it. |
He didn't help himself when a couple weeks before that he kind of tested - his testimony was kind of like disheveled and less confident. But Chuck Hagel was approved by the Armed Services Committee 14 to 11, and it looks like there will be a full vote in the Senate tomorrow, perhaps tomorrow morning, and... | he didn't help himself. when a couple weeks before that he kind of tested - his testimony was kind of like disheveled and. less confident but chuck hagel was. approved by the armed services committee 14 to 11, and it looks like there will be a full vote in the senate tomorrow perhaps tomorrow morning | He didn't help himself when, a couple weeks before that, he kind of. tested - his testimony was kind of like disheveled and less confident, But Chuck Hagel was approved. by the Armed Services, Committee 14 to 11, and it looks like there; will be a full vote in the Senate tomorrow perhaps tomorrow morning | he didn't help himself when a couple weeks before that he kind of tested - his testimony was kind of like disheveled and less confident. but chuck hagel was approved by the armed services committee 14 to 11, and it looks like there will be a full vote in the senate tomorrow, perhaps tomorrow morning, and... |
And it's going to need 60 votes. | and it's. going to need | And it's going to need | and it's going to need 60 votes. |
And he may get the 60 votes. He already has 55, and two Republicans, Mike Johanns and Thad Cochran have already come on board, that's 57. He needs only 57 to break the - three more to break the potential filibuster. | and he may, get the 60 votes he already has 55, and two republicans mike johanns and thad cochran have already come on board that's 57. he needs, only 57 to break the - three more to break the potential | And he may get the 60 votes He already has 55, and two Republicans Mike Johanns and Thad Cochran have already come on board that's 57. He needs only 57 to, break the - three, more to break the. potential | and he may get the 60 votes. he already has 55, and two republicans, mike johanns and thad cochran have already come on board, that's 57. he needs only 57 to break the - three more to break the potential filibuster. |
Email from Derek Mullins(ph), who guesses the trivia question answer is Tennessee. | email from derek mullins(ph), who guesses the, trivia question answer is | Email from Derek. Mullins(ph), who guesses the trivia question answer is, | email from derek mullins(ph), who guesses the trivia question answer is tennessee. |
That is the correct answer. | that is the correct | That is the correct | that is the correct answer. |
Ding, ding, ding. | ding ding | Ding ding | ding, ding, ding. |
Which is amazing because - that's a tough one, but it was 1952. As you well remember, Gordon Browning was defeated in the Democratic primary by Frank Clement. | which is amazing because - that's a tough one but it was 1952. as you well, remember gordon browning was defeated in the democratic primary by frank | Which is amazing because - that's a tough, one. but, it was 1952. As you well remember Gordon, Browning was defeated. in the Democratic primary by Frank, | which is amazing because - that's a tough one, but it was 1952. as you well remember, gordon browning was defeated in the democratic primary by frank clement. |
Well, congratulations, Derek, and we will send you a political junkie T-shirt and of course the fabulous no-prize button in exchange for your promise of a digital image of yourself wearing said same that we can post of our Wall of Shame. And we'll hold on to your particulars. Ken? | well congratulations derek, and we will send you a political, junkie t-shirt and, of course the fabulous no-prize button in exchange for your. promise of a digital image of yourself wearing said same that we can; post of our, wall of. shame and we'll hold, on, to your particulars | Well congratulations Derek and we will send you a political junkie T-shirt and of; course the fabulous. no-prize button in exchange for your promise of a digital image of yourself, wearing said same that we can; post of our. Wall of Shame; And we'll hold on to your particulars | well, congratulations, derek, and we will send you a political junkie t-shirt and of course the fabulous no-prize button in exchange for your promise of a digital image of yourself wearing said same that we can post of our wall of shame. and we'll hold on to your particulars. ken? |
Do we have time for last week's mistake I made? | do we have time for. last week's. mistake i | Do we, have time for last week's, mistake I | do we have time for last week's mistake i made? |
We always have time for a Rudin mistake. | we always have time for a rudin | We always have time for a Rudin | we always have time for a rudin mistake. |
Well, anyway, we were talking about the most recent incidences with two senators from the state ran against each other. Anyway, Jake from Battle Creek, Michigan, said Brian Schatz and Mazie Hirono of Hawaii. I said he was wrong, but he was correct. They ran against each other for the House. Jake, call in, you'll get a ... | well anyway we were talking about. the most recent incidences, with two senators, from the state ran against each other, anyway jake from battle creek michigan said brian schatz and mazie hirono of hawaii i said he was wrong but, he was correct they ran against each other for the house jake call in you'll get a t-shirt... | Well. anyway we, were talking about the most recent incidences with, two senators from the state ran against each other Anyway Jake from Battle Creek Michigan said Brian Schatz and Mazie Hirono of Hawaii I said he was wrong but he was correct. They ran against each other for the House Jake call in you'll get. a T-shirt... | well, anyway, we were talking about the most recent incidences with two senators from the state ran against each other. anyway, jake from battle creek, michigan, said brian schatz and mazie hirono of hawaii. i said he was wrong, but he was correct. they ran against each other for the house. jake, call in, you'll get a ... |
Or send us an email, talk@npr.org, and boy, that phone number better have a Battle Creek area code. We'll be right back in just a moment with Paul Glastris and Peter Robinson to discuss the State of the Union and the president's efforts to shift the political middle. This is TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | or send us. an email talk@npr.org. and boy that phone number better have. a battle creek, area code we'll be right, back. in just a moment; with paul glastris and peter robinson to discuss the state of the union and the president's efforts to shift the political middle this is talk of, the nation from npr | Or send us an email talk@npr.org and boy that phone number better have a Battle Creek area code We'll be right back in just a moment with Paul Glastris and. Peter Robinson to discuss the State of the Union and the president's. efforts to shift the political middle This is TALK OF THE NATION from. NPR | or send us an email, talk@npr.org, and boy, that phone number better have a battle creek area code. we'll be right back in just a moment with paul glastris and peter robinson to discuss the state of the union and the president's efforts to shift the political middle. this is talk of the nation from npr news. |
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This is TALK OF THE NATION. I'm Neal Conan in Washington. It's Wednesday, which means it's Political Junkie day. Ken Rudin's here, as always. Ken, what have you been up to this week? Get around to making up a ScuttleButton puzzle? | this is talk of the. nation i'm neal conan in washington it's wednesday which means it's political junkie day ken rudin's here as. always ken what have you. been up to this week? get around to making up a scuttlebutton | This is TALK. OF THE NATION I'm, Neal Conan in Washington It's Wednesday which means it's Political Junkie day; Ken Rudin's here as, always Ken what have you been up to. this week? Get around to making up a ScuttleButton | this is talk of the nation. i'm neal conan in washington. it's wednesday, which means it's political junkie day. ken rudin's here, as always. ken, what have you been up to this week? get around to making up a scuttlebutton puzzle? |
Well yes, but I just finished that question, the trivia question this week, (unintelligible). | well yes but i just finished that question the trivia question this week | Well yes but I. just finished, that question the trivia question this week; | well yes, but i just finished that question, the trivia question this week, (unintelligible). |
(LAUGHTER) | (laughter) | ||
But there was a winner last week. The buttons were John Lindsay for mayor, Jacob Javits for U.S. senator from New York, Gene McCarthy for president, Tom Gill, who ran for governor of Hawaii, and John Paul Hammerschmidt, there's a congressman from Arkansas. So when you add them all together, you get John, Jacob, Gene-Gi... | but there was a winner last week the buttons were john lindsay for mayor jacob, javits for u.s senator from new york gene mccarthy for president tom gill who ran for governor of hawaii and john paul hammerschmidt there's a congressman from arkansas so when you add them all together you get john jacob gene-gill | But. there was a winner last week The. buttons, were John Lindsay for mayor Jacob. Javits for U.S senator from New York Gene McCarthy for president Tom Gill who ran for governor of Hawaii, and John Paul Hammerschmidt there's a congressman from Arkansas So when you add them. all together you get John, Jacob Gene-Gill | but there was a winner last week. the buttons were john lindsay for mayor, jacob javits for u.s. senator from new york, gene mccarthy for president, tom gill, who ran for governor of hawaii, and john paul hammerschmidt, there's a congressman from arkansas. so when you add them all together, you get john, jacob, gene-gi... |
Oh boy. And of course his name is my name, too. | oh boy and of course his name is my name. | Oh boy And of course; his name is my name | oh boy. and of course his name is my name, too. |
Exactly. Well, anyway, Carol Walker Martini(ph) of Chickamauga, Georgia, is the winner. And I understand that she is having surgery today, so... | exactly well anyway carol walker martini(ph) of chickamauga georgia is, the winner and i understand that she is having surgery today, | Exactly Well anyway Carol Walker Martini(ph) of Chickamauga Georgia is the winner And I understand that she is, having surgery today | exactly. well, anyway, carol walker martini(ph) of chickamauga, georgia, is the winner. and i understand that she is having surgery today, so... |
Really? Well, this will cheer her up, that political T-shirt she can wear in recovery and the button she can stab herself with. Thank you, congratulations. There's of course a new political junkie column up, and you can see this week's puzzle and read the column at npr.org/junkie. | really? well this will cheer her up that political t-shirt she can, wear in recovery, and the button she, can stab herself with thank you congratulations there's. of course a new political junkie column, up and you can see this week's puzzle. and read the column at | Really? Well this will cheer her up that political T-shirt she can. wear; in recovery and the button she can stab herself, with Thank you, congratulations There's of, course a new political junkie column. up and you can see; this week's puzzle and read the column. at | really? well, this will cheer her up, that political t-shirt she can wear in recovery and the button she can stab herself with. thank you, congratulations. there's of course a new political junkie column up, and you can see this week's puzzle and read the column at npr.org/junkie. |
Last night on Capitol Hill, President Obama offered his State of the Union Address highlighting policy and issues but more broadly providing a perspective on the role of government in our society. | last night on capitol hill president obama offered his state of the, union, address highlighting policy, and issues but more broadly providing a perspective on the role of government in our | Last. night on Capitol Hill President Obama offered his, State of the Union Address highlighting policy and issues but more broadly providing a perspective on the role of government in our | last night on capitol hill, president obama offered his state of the union address highlighting policy and issues but more broadly providing a perspective on the role of government in our society. |
The American people don't expect government to solve every problem. They don't expect those of us in this chamber to agree on every issue. But they do expect us to put the nation's interests before party. | the american people don't expect government to solve every problem they don't expect. those of us in this chamber to agree on every issue but they do expect us to put the. nation's interests before | The American people don't expect government to solve every problem They don't expect those of us in this chamber to agree on every issue But they, do expect us to put the nation's interests before | the american people don't expect government to solve every problem. they don't expect those of us in this chamber to agree on every issue. but they do expect us to put the nation's interests before party. |
(APPLAUSE) | (applause) | ||
They do expect us to forge reasonable compromise where we can, for they know that America moves forward only when we do so together and that the responsibility of improving this union remains the task of us all. | they do expect us, to forge reasonable compromise where we can. for they know that america moves forward only when we do so together and that the responsibility of, improving this. union remains the task of us | They do expect us to, forge reasonable compromise where we can for they know that America moves forward only when we do so together and. that the responsibility of improving this union remains the task of us | they do expect us to forge reasonable compromise where we can, for they know that america moves forward only when we do so together and that the responsibility of improving this union remains the task of us all. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
We're... | we're... | ||
As is our tradition, we've invited former presidential speechwriters Paul Glastris and Peter Robinson to joins us. Paul Glastris wrote for Bill Clinton, he's now editor-in-chief of The Washington Monthly, with us here in Studio 3A. Welcome back. | as. is our tradition we've invited former presidential speechwriters paul glastris and peter robinson to, joins. us paul glastris wrote for bill clinton he's now editor-in-chief of the washington monthly with us here in studio, 3a welcome | As is our tradition we've invited former presidential speechwriters Paul Glastris and Peter Robinson to joins us Paul Glastris wrote for Bill Clinton he's now editor-in-chief of The Washington Monthly. with us here in Studio. 3A, Welcome | as is our tradition, we've invited former presidential speechwriters paul glastris and peter robinson to joins us. paul glastris wrote for bill clinton, he's now editor-in-chief of the washington monthly, with us here in studio 3a. welcome back. |
Thanks. | thanks. | ||
And Peter Robinson wrote for Ronald Reagan and joins us from the campus at Stanford University, where he's a research fellow at the Hoover Institution. Welcome back to you, too. | and peter robinson wrote for ronald reagan and joins us from the campus at stanford university where he's a research fellow. at the hoover institution welcome back to you | And Peter Robinson. wrote for Ronald Reagan. and joins us from the campus at Stanford University where he's a research fellow. at the Hoover Institution Welcome back to you | and peter robinson wrote for ronald reagan and joins us from the campus at stanford university, where he's a research fellow at the hoover institution. welcome back to you, too. |
Neal, a pleasure. By the way, Paul, Neal just called this a tradition. I'm starting to be afraid we're going to become an exhibit in The Smithsonian. | neal a pleasure by the way paul neal just called this a tradition i'm starting to be afraid we're going to become an exhibit. in the | Neal a pleasure By the, way Paul Neal just called, this a tradition I'm starting to be afraid we're going to become an exhibit in The | neal, a pleasure. by the way, paul, neal just called this a tradition. i'm starting to be afraid we're going to become an exhibit in the smithsonian. |
(LAUGHTER) | (laughter) | ||
I have to ask: Paul Glastris, given - I've heard these two speeches described as the inaugural address as a preface and this as the main body, the substance of the speech. Taken together, this is a serious argument for liberalism. | i have to ask: paul glastris given - i've heard these two speeches described as; the inaugural address as a preface and this as, the main body the substance, of, the speech taken together this is a serious argument for | I have to ask: Paul Glastris. given - I've heard these; two speeches described as the inaugural address as a preface, and this as the main body the substance of the speech Taken together this is a serious argument for, | i have to ask: paul glastris, given - i've heard these two speeches described as the inaugural address as a preface and this as the main body, the substance of the speech. taken together, this is a serious argument for liberalism. |
It is. It's a serious argument for a kind of mainstream liberalism. It's not a serious argument for socialism, right, these are very broadly shared policies: raising the minimum wage and background checks. You know, these are things that we were writing speeches for President Clinton making exactly the same case. | it is it's a serious argument, for a kind of mainstream liberalism it's not a serious argument for socialism right these are very broadly shared policies: raising the minimum wage and background checks you know. these are things that we were writing speeches for president clinton making; exactly the same | It is It's a serious argument for a kind of. mainstream liberalism It's, not, a. serious argument for socialism right these are very broadly shared policies: raising. the minimum wage and background checks You, know these are things that we were writing speeches for President Clinton making exactly the same | it is. it's a serious argument for a kind of mainstream liberalism. it's not a serious argument for socialism, right, these are very broadly shared policies: raising the minimum wage and background checks. you know, these are things that we were writing speeches for president clinton making exactly the same case. |
So in terms of policy, this is, in a sense, nothing new. In the sense of being a full-throated argument for the role of government, again I think President Clinton did the same thing. But in the context of a country that's been debating, you know, rolling back the Great Society and the New Deal and going back to some m... | so in terms of policy this is, in a sense nothing new in, the sense of being a full-throated argument for the role of government again i think president clinton did the same thing but, in the context. of a country; that's been debating you know rolling back the great society and the new deal and going; back to some muc... | So in terms of policy this is in a sense nothing new In; the sense of being a, full-throated argument for the; role of government again. I think President Clinton did the same, thing But in the context of a country; that's been debating you know rolling back the Great Society and the New. Deal and going back to some mu... | so in terms of policy, this is, in a sense, nothing new. in the sense of being a full-throated argument for the role of government, again i think president clinton did the same thing. but in the context of a country that's been debating, you know, rolling back the great society and the new deal and going back to some m... |
And Peter Robinson, I wanted to ask you: Some say this is an effort to shift that political center back towards the left. A shift to the right, which began of course under your guy, Ronald Reagan. | and peter robinson i wanted to ask you: some say this is an effort, to shift that political center back towards, the left a shift to the, right which began of course under your guy ronald | And Peter Robinson I wanted to ask you: Some say; this is an effort. to shift that, political center back towards. the left A shift to the right which began of course under your guy Ronald | and peter robinson, i wanted to ask you: some say this is an effort to shift that political center back towards the left. a shift to the right, which began of course under your guy, ronald reagan. |
Yeah, that strikes me as exactly right. My question going into it last night was whether he intended to concentrate on substance, put forward an agenda on which he could actually reach compromises with Republicans. Would we be hearing about what he intended to accomplish in the next 18 months, or so, before all of Wash... | yeah that strikes me as exactly right my question going into, it last night was whether he intended to concentrate on substance, put forward, an agenda on which, he could actually; reach compromises with republicans would we be hearing about what he intended to accomplish in the next 18 months or so before. all of wash... | Yeah that strikes me as exactly right My question going into it, last night was whether he intended to concentrate, on substance put forward an. agenda on which. he could actually reach compromises with. Republicans Would we be hearing about what he intended to accomplish in the next 18 months or so before all of, Wash... | yeah, that strikes me as exactly right. my question going into it last night was whether he intended to concentrate on substance, put forward an agenda on which he could actually reach compromises with republicans. would we be hearing about what he intended to accomplish in the next 18 months, or so, before all of wash... |
And the answer to that was no. He's paying attention to the midterm election right now. It's all politics. I don't mean that, necessarily, in a - to denigrate his aims. What he wants to do is shift the country, just as you said, shift the entire political center of gravity to the left. | and the answer to that was, no he's paying, attention to the midterm election right now it's all politics i don't mean that necessarily in a - to denigrate his, aims what he wants to do is shift the country just, as you said shift the entire political center of gravity, to, the | And the answer to that was no He's paying attention to. the midterm election right now It's all, politics I don't mean that necessarily in a - to denigrate his aims What he; wants to do is shift the country, just as you said shift the entire, political center of gravity to the | and the answer to that was no. he's paying attention to the midterm election right now. it's all politics. i don't mean that, necessarily, in a - to denigrate his aims. what he wants to do is shift the country, just as you said, shift the entire political center of gravity to the left. |
My own view is that Paul's just right: Much of this sounded like Bill Clinton. But the large difference is that Bill Clinton was putting forward relatively modest programs that fit the liberal agenda, when he was restraining the overall growth of government. You could say he had no choice for - with Republicans control... | my own view is that paul's, just right: much of this sounded like. bill clinton but the large difference is that bill clinton was putting forward relatively modest programs that fit the liberal agenda when he was restraining the overall growth; of government you could say he had no choice for. - with republicans contro... | My own view, is that Paul's just right: Much of this sounded like Bill Clinton But the, large difference, is that Bill Clinton was putting forward relatively modest programs that fit the liberal agenda. when he was restraining the overall growth of government You could say he had no. choice for - with Republicans contr... | my own view is that paul's just right: much of this sounded like bill clinton. but the large difference is that bill clinton was putting forward relatively modest programs that fit the liberal agenda, when he was restraining the overall growth of government. you could say he had no choice for - with republicans control... |
Barack Obama, again relatively modest programs, 15 new manufacturing hubs is not going to change the world, but he's putting forward relatively new modest programs after a dramatic expansion of government, from about 21 percent of GDP to about - to just under 25 percent, where we are now. | barack obama again relatively modest programs 15 new manufacturing hubs is not. going to change the world. but he's putting forward relatively new modest programs after a, dramatic expansion of government from about 21 percent of gdp to about - to just under 25 percent. where we; are | Barack; Obama again relatively modest programs 15 new. manufacturing hubs is not going to change the world but he's putting forward relatively new modest programs after a dramatic expansion of government from about 21 percent of GDP to, about - to just under 25 percent where we are | barack obama, again relatively modest programs, 15 new manufacturing hubs is not going to change the world, but he's putting forward relatively new modest programs after a dramatic expansion of government, from about 21 percent of gdp to about - to just under 25 percent, where we are now. |
So this sounds the same as Bill Clinton, but the aim is much more ambitious, I would argue. | so. this sounds, the same as bill clinton but the aim is much more ambitious i would, | So this sounds the same as Bill Clinton but the aim, is much more ambitious, I would | so this sounds the same as bill clinton, but the aim is much more ambitious, i would argue. |
Ken, as you listened to the speech, this tectonic drift that a lot of people have talked about, the ideas have, over the past, what, few decades come from the right. Many say that the Democratic Party has been largely reactive. President Obama's clearly trying to change that. | ken as you listened to the. speech. this tectonic drift that a lot, of people have. talked about the ideas have over the past what few decades come from, the right many, say that the democratic party has been largely reactive president obama's clearly trying to change | Ken as. you listened to the speech this tectonic, drift that a. lot of people have talked about the; ideas have over the past what few decades come from the right Many say that the Democratic Party has been largely reactive President Obama's clearly trying to change | ken, as you listened to the speech, this tectonic drift that a lot of people have talked about, the ideas have, over the past, what, few decades come from the right. many say that the democratic party has been largely reactive. president obama's clearly trying to change that. |
No, I think that's absolutely clear. And I don't even think it's about what the actual - whether it's ideology at all. I just found - I mean, I know that both Peter and Paul, their jobs are to puts words in the president's mouth and have them - we pay attention to their words. | no i think that's absolutely clear and i. don't even think it's about what the actual - whether it's ideology at all i just found - i mean i. know that both. peter and paul their jobs are to puts words in the president's mouth and have them - we, pay attention to their | No I think that's absolutely clear, And I don't even think it's about what the actual - whether, it's ideology at all. I just found - I mean I know that both Peter, and Paul their jobs are, to puts. words in the president's mouth and have them - we pay. attention to their | no, i think that's absolutely clear. and i don't even think it's about what the actual - whether it's ideology at all. i just found - i mean, i know that both peter and paul, their jobs are to puts words in the president's mouth and have them - we pay attention to their words. |
But there was something about the attitude that I thought was fascinating last night. He seemed - he, the president, seemed far more assertive, certainly maybe more combative. And you always talk about his first term, when he was kind of like - kind of, you know, feeling his oats and not sure whether - how to be aggres... | but there was something about the attitude that i; thought was fascinating last night he seemed - he the. president seemed far. more assertive certainly maybe more combative and you always talk about his first term when he was kind of like - kind of you know feeling his oats and not sure whether - how, to be | But there was something about, the attitude that I, thought was fascinating last night He seemed - he the president seemed far more assertive certainly maybe more combative And you always talk about his first term when he was kind of like - kind of you know, feeling his oats and not sure whether - how to be | but there was something about the attitude that i thought was fascinating last night. he seemed - he, the president, seemed far more assertive, certainly maybe more combative. and you always talk about his first term, when he was kind of like - kind of, you know, feeling his oats and not sure whether - how to be aggres... |
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