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When you think about something like that and your name also being exposed, is that in and of itself a crime? He was taken down by his Web host but if his Web host had chosen to keep his Web site up, would that have just been fine and dandy?	when you think about something like that and your name also being exposed is that, in and of itself a crime? he was taken down by his web host but if, his web host had chosen to keep his web site up would that have just been fine and	When you think; about something like that and your name, also being exposed is that in and of itself a, crime? He was taken down by his. Web host but if his Web host had chosen to keep; his Web site up would that have just, been fine and	when you think about something like that and your name also being exposed, is that in and of itself a crime? he was taken down by his web host but if his web host had chosen to keep his web site up, would that have just been fine and dandy?
Probably yes is the answer. Those were almost certainly protected statements under the First Amendment. And, I mean, it's shocking in a way, in another way - here's the bottom line. I mean, under the First Amendment, you - one can make all kinds of general advocacy statements. For instance, you know, you could say I th...	probably yes is the answer those were. almost, certainly protected statements under the first amendment, and i mean it's shocking, in a way in another way - here's the bottom, line i mean under the first, amendment you - one, can make all kinds of general advocacy statements for instance you know you, could say i think...	Probably yes is the answer Those were almost certainly protected statements under, the First Amendment And I mean; it's shocking in a way in another. way, - here's the. bottom line I mean under the First Amendment you - one can make all kinds of general. advocacy statements For instance you know you could say, I think,...	probably yes is the answer. those were almost certainly protected statements under the first amendment. and, i mean, it's shocking in a way, in another way - here's the bottom line. i mean, under the first amendment, you - one can make all kinds of general advocacy statements. for instance, you know, you could say i th...
In another, you know, clever little posting from Bill White, he said a certain lawyer, a man I know, a human rights lawyer in Canada, of him, he said, it would be patriotic to kill this person, and then gave his home address and phone number. You know, these things are actually do not rise to criminal incitements or pr...	in another you; know clever little posting from bill white he said a certain lawyer a man i know a human. rights lawyer, in, canada of him he said, it; would be patriotic to kill. this person and then gave his home address and phone, number you know these things are actually do. not rise, to criminal incitements or pro...	In another you know, clever little posting from Bill. White he said a certain lawyer a man I know a human. rights lawyer in Canada. of, him he said it would be, patriotic to kill. this person and then gave his home address and phone number You know these things are actually do not rise to criminal incitements or. proba...	in another, you know, clever little posting from bill white, he said a certain lawyer, a man i know, a human rights lawyer in canada, of him, he said, it would be patriotic to kill this person, and then gave his home address and phone number. you know, these things are actually do not rise to criminal incitements or pr...
Mark, before we let you go, what should people do to figure out what's true and false among all of these Internet postings and how they should react?	mark before. we let you go what should people do to figure out what's true and false among all of these internet postings and how. they should	Mark, before we let you go what should. people do to figure out what's true and false among all of these Internet postings and how they should	mark, before we let you go, what should people do to figure out what's true and false among all of these internet postings and how they should react?
Well, I think, you know, there are few things to learn from this. One, there - this country has some people in it who are really quite awful. I think that regardless of what the details of what's happened in Jena are, you know, lynch the Jena Six is not the answer.	well i think you know there are few things to learn from this one there - this country has some, people in it who are really quite, awful i think that regardless; of what the details of what's happened in jena are you know lynch the jena six is not the	Well I think you know there are few things to learn from this One there - this country has, some people in it who are really quite awful I think that regardless of what the details of what's; happened in Jena are you. know lynch the Jena Six is not the	well, i think, you know, there are few things to learn from this. one, there - this country has some people in it who are really quite awful. i think that regardless of what the details of what's happened in jena are, you know, lynch the jena six is not the answer.
The other thing is, I think, that people should be aware as a general matter that these groups and individuals routinely distort reality in order to make their propaganda points.	the other thing is i think that people should be aware as, a, general matter, that these groups and individuals routinely distort reality. in order to make their propaganda	The other thing is I think that people. should be aware as a general matter that these groups and individuals routinely distort reality in order to make their, propaganda	the other thing is, i think, that people should be aware as a general matter that these groups and individuals routinely distort reality in order to make their propaganda points.
I mentioned earlier a crime in Knoxville, Tennessee. It was a white couple murdered by three black men and a black woman. And you know, what was said about that crime by white supremacist groups was that it was a hate crime, it was done on the basis of race and that…	i mentioned earlier, a crime in knoxville tennessee it was, a white couple murdered by three black men and a black woman and you know what was said about that crime; by white supremacist. groups was that it was a hate crime. it, was done on the basis. of race and	I mentioned earlier a crime in Knoxville Tennessee It was a, white couple murdered by three black men and a black woman And you know what was said about that crime by white supremacist groups was. that; it was a hate crime it was done on the basis. of race and	i mentioned earlier a crime in knoxville, tennessee. it was a white couple murdered by three black men and a black woman. and you know, what was said about that crime by white supremacist groups was that it was a hate crime, it was done on the basis of race and that…
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Well, Mark, I want to thank you. Mark runs the Intelligence Project of the Center for Poverty Law in Montgomery, Alabama.	well mark i. want to thank you mark runs the intelligence project of the center for poverty law in montgomery	Well Mark I want to thank you Mark runs the. Intelligence Project of the. Center for Poverty Law in Montgomery	well, mark, i want to thank you. mark runs the intelligence project of the center for poverty law in montgomery, alabama.
Thank you so much.	thank you so	Thank. you so	thank you so much.
First, let me just say it's kind of ironic I'm talking to a judge and an ex-parole officer. That was one of my goals, to stay away from that.	first let me just. say it's kind of ironic i'm talking to. a judge and an ex-parole officer that was one of my goals. to stay, away from	First let me just say it's kind of ironic I'm talking, to a judge and an ex-parole officer That was one of my goals to stay away from	first, let me just say it's kind of ironic i'm talking to a judge and an ex-parole officer. that was one of my goals, to stay away from that.
So you're hearing this, you're about 10 years old. When you were a child, did you dream that one day you would grow up in an independent Kurdistan?	so you're hearing this you're about 10 years old when, you were a child did you dream that one day you would grow up in an independent	So you're hearing this you're about 10 years old When you were, a child did, you dream that one day you would grow up in; an independent	so you're hearing this, you're about 10 years old. when you were a child, did you dream that one day you would grow up in an independent kurdistan?
Which Kurd wouldn't want to one day have their own country? I'd be lying to you if I told you no. I mean, I don't want my own country. It saddens me when I go to the United Nations and I see so many countries, some with populations the size of small towns in Iraqi Kurdistan, that have their permanent missions to New Yo...	which. kurd wouldn't. want to one day. have their own country? i'd. be. lying to you if i told. you no i mean i don't want my; own country it saddens me when i go to the united nations and; i. see so many countries some, with populations the size of small towns in, iraqi kurdistan that have their, permanent missions to...	Which Kurd wouldn't, want to. one day. have their own country? I'd be lying to you if I told you no I mean I don't want my own country It saddens me when I go to the United. Nations and I. see so many countries some with populations the size of small towns in Iraqi Kurdistan that have their permanent missions to New Yo...	which kurd wouldn't want to one day have their own country? i'd be lying to you if i told you no. i mean, i don't want my own country. it saddens me when i go to the united nations and i see so many countries, some with populations the size of small towns in iraqi kurdistan, that have their permanent missions to new yo...
The challenge we have is that we have a community in Kurdistan, our population, which overwhelmingly supports Kurdish independence. But the political leadership has continued and will continue to advocate and to actually push for a federal democracy in Iraq. For Iraq to succeed, it has to be a voluntary union of its pe...	the challenge we have is that we have; a community in kurdistan, our population which overwhelmingly supports kurdish independence, but, the political leadership has continued and will continue to advocate and to actually push for a federal democracy in iraq for iraq to succeed it, has to be a voluntary union of its pe...	The challenge we have is that we have a community in Kurdistan our population which overwhelmingly supports; Kurdish. independence But the political leadership has continued and will continue to, advocate and, to actually push for a federal democracy in Iraq For Iraq to succeed it has to be a voluntary union of its peo...	the challenge we have is that we have a community in kurdistan, our population, which overwhelmingly supports kurdish independence. but the political leadership has continued and will continue to advocate and to actually push for a federal democracy in iraq. for iraq to succeed, it has to be a voluntary union of its pe...
Is there anything that would cause Kurdistan and Kurdish people to withdraw from that voluntary agreement?	is there anything that would cause kurdistan and kurdish, people. to withdraw from that voluntary	Is there anything that would cause Kurdistan and Kurdish people. to withdraw from that voluntary	is there anything that would cause kurdistan and kurdish people to withdraw from that voluntary agreement?
We cannot accept an Iraq that is run by a dictatorship, be it a military dictatorship or a dictatorship under the guise of religion. I think that has always been a red line for the Kurds. Our voluntary union into Iraq must depend on Iraq being a federal democracy.	we cannot accept an iraq that. is run by a dictatorship be it a military. dictatorship or a dictatorship under the guise of religion i think that has always, been a red line for the kurds our voluntary union into iraq must depend on iraq being a federal	We cannot accept an Iraq that is run. by a dictatorship, be it a military dictatorship or a. dictatorship under the guise of religion I think that has always been a red line for the Kurds Our voluntary union into Iraq must depend; on Iraq being a federal	we cannot accept an iraq that is run by a dictatorship, be it a military dictatorship or a dictatorship under the guise of religion. i think that has always been a red line for the kurds. our voluntary union into iraq must depend on iraq being a federal democracy.
Let's talk about your role here as a lobbyist and as a representative. You came to Washington, I believe, in 2000.	let's talk about your role here as a, lobbyist and as a representative you came to washington i believe in	Let's talk about your role here as a lobbyist and as a, representative You came to Washington, I believe in	let's talk about your role here as a lobbyist and as a representative. you came to washington, i believe, in 2000.
Yes.			yes.
We're sitting here in your strategy room, in your office, below a picture of your father, the flag of Kurdistan, a map of Baghdad and below the mission statement of your time here, I guess. Very boldly, you've written out this year's mission not impossible statement. So what's the mission?	we're sitting here in your strategy room in your office below a picture of, your father the flag of kurdistan a map of baghdad and below the, mission statement. of your time here i guess very boldly you've written out; this year's mission not impossible statement so what's the	We're sitting here in your strategy room in your office below a picture of your father. the flag of Kurdistan a map of Baghdad and below the mission statement of your time, here I. guess Very boldly you've written out this year's mission not impossible statement So what's the	we're sitting here in your strategy room, in your office, below a picture of your father, the flag of kurdistan, a map of baghdad and below the mission statement of your time here, i guess. very boldly, you've written out this year's mission not impossible statement. so what's the mission?
That the Kurds of Iraq are strong allies of the United States; are strong allies of Americans; are strong allies of the values that Americans take for granted every day. The Kurds are today Iraq's most progressive force and if democracy is to succeed in Iraq, then it will be spearheaded by the Kurds.	that the kurds of iraq. are strong allies of the united states are strong allies of americans are strong allies of the values that americans take for granted every day the kurds, are today iraq's most progressive, force and if. democracy is to succeed in iraq then it will be spearheaded by the	That the Kurds of Iraq are strong allies of the United States are strong allies of Americans are strong allies of the, values that Americans take for granted every day The Kurds are today Iraq's most progressive force and if democracy is to succeed in Iraq then it will be spearheaded by the	that the kurds of iraq are strong allies of the united states; are strong allies of americans; are strong allies of the values that americans take for granted every day. the kurds are today iraq's most progressive force and if democracy is to succeed in iraq, then it will be spearheaded by the kurds.
I know that you've talked about Kurds as being more pro-American, more pro-democracy, but I would like to ask about Kurds' relationship with their own minorities. Many Christians who've come up from other parts of Iraq - Mosul, Basra, Baghdad - have said that they have difficulty staying on in the north, that even thou...	i know that you've talked about kurds as being more pro-american more pro-democracy but, i would like, to ask, about kurds' relationship with their own minorities many, christians who've come up from other parts of iraq - mosul basra baghdad - have said. that they have difficulty staying on in the north that even thoug...	I know that you've talked about Kurds as being more pro-American more pro-democracy but I would like to ask about Kurds' relationship with their own, minorities Many Christians who've come up from, other parts of Iraq - Mosul, Basra Baghdad - have, said that they. have. difficulty staying on in the north that even thou...	i know that you've talked about kurds as being more pro-american, more pro-democracy, but i would like to ask about kurds' relationship with their own minorities. many christians who've come up from other parts of iraq - mosul, basra, baghdad - have said that they have difficulty staying on in the north, that even thou...
We - we're proud of the plural nature of Kurdistan and we don't think that Kurdistan is Kurdish, though it translates as land of the Kurds. We pride ourselves on the fact that today we have Turkomans. We have Chaldeoassyrians. We have the Yezidis, the Sabaeans, and a variety of different ethnic and sectarian groups. We...	we - we're proud of the plural nature of kurdistan and we don't think that kurdistan, is kurdish though it translates as land of the kurds we pride ourselves on. the fact that today we have turkomans we have. chaldeoassyrians we have the yezidis the sabaeans and a. variety of different ethnic and sectarian groups we ha...	We - we're proud of the plural nature of Kurdistan and we don't think that Kurdistan. is Kurdish though it translates as land of the Kurds We pride. ourselves on the fact that today we have Turkomans We have Chaldeoassyrians We have the Yezidis the Sabaeans and a variety of different ethnic, and sectarian groups We hav...	we - we're proud of the plural nature of kurdistan and we don't think that kurdistan is kurdish, though it translates as land of the kurds. we pride ourselves on the fact that today we have turkomans. we have chaldeoassyrians. we have the yezidis, the sabaeans, and a variety of different ethnic and sectarian groups. we...
Can we do more to protect people's ethnic and sectarian beliefs and affiliations and traditions? Yes. Absolutely. And I think this is part of the fledgling governance that we have in Kurdistan today, where we state that we are progressing. We're a model for the rest of the country. But nobody has ever said we're perfec...	can we do more to protect people's ethnic. and sectarian. beliefs and affiliations and, traditions? yes, absolutely and i. think this is part of the fledgling governance that we have in kurdistan, today where we state that we. are progressing, we're a model for the rest of the country but nobody has ever said we're	Can we do more to protect people's ethnic. and sectarian beliefs, and affiliations and traditions? Yes Absolutely And I think this is part of the fledgling governance that we have, in Kurdistan today where we state that we are progressing We're a. model for the rest of the country But nobody has ever said we're.	can we do more to protect people's ethnic and sectarian beliefs and affiliations and traditions? yes. absolutely. and i think this is part of the fledgling governance that we have in kurdistan today, where we state that we are progressing. we're a model for the rest of the country. but nobody has ever said we're perfec...
And I think if you cite some of the reports about the displacement from Arab parts of Iraq to the Kurdistan region, and we're doing all that we can to try to take in those refugees. The refugees that number in hundreds of thousands now are placing a major burden on the resources of the Kurdistan Regional Government.	and i think if you cite some of the reports. about the displacement from arab parts. of iraq to the kurdistan region and we're doing all that, we can to try to take in those refugees the refugees that number in hundreds of thousands now are placing a. major burden on the resources of the kurdistan regional	And I think if you cite some. of the reports about, the displacement from Arab parts of Iraq to the Kurdistan region and we're doing all that we can to try to take in those refugees The refugees that number, in hundreds of thousands now are placing, a major burden on the resources of the Kurdistan Regional	and i think if you cite some of the reports about the displacement from arab parts of iraq to the kurdistan region, and we're doing all that we can to try to take in those refugees. the refugees that number in hundreds of thousands now are placing a major burden on the resources of the kurdistan regional government.
So Qubad Talabani, what are your fears about what might happen in Kurdistan if American troops withdrew?	so, qubad talabani what are your fears about what might happen in kurdistan. if american troops	So Qubad Talabani, what are your, fears about what might happen in Kurdistan if American troops	so qubad talabani, what are your fears about what might happen in kurdistan if american troops withdrew?
Well, Kurds are proudly pro-Americans. And whether we like it or not, we have been painted with this pro-American brush, and I think if the U.S. were to withdraw from Iraq then many bad forces in the region - anti-American forces - will take their anger and hate out on us. This terrifies the five million Kurds. Every t...	well. kurds are proudly pro-americans and whether we like it or not we have, been painted, with this pro-american brush, and i think if the u.s were to withdraw from iraq, then many bad forces in the region - anti-american forces - will. take their anger and hate out on us. this. terrifies the five million kurds every ...	Well. Kurds are. proudly pro-Americans And whether we like, it or not we have been painted with. this pro-American brush. and I think if the U.S; were, to withdraw from Iraq then; many bad forces. in the region - anti-American forces - will take their anger and. hate out on us This terrifies the five million Kurds, Eve...	well, kurds are proudly pro-americans. and whether we like it or not, we have been painted with this pro-american brush, and i think if the u.s. were to withdraw from iraq then many bad forces in the region - anti-american forces - will take their anger and hate out on us. this terrifies the five million kurds. every t...
So there's a fear of an American troop withdrawal?	so there's a fear of an american troop	So there's. a fear of an American troop,	so there's a fear of an american troop withdrawal?
There is. And fear is a light word. The people are petrified.	there is and fear is a light word the. people are	There is And fear is a. light word The people are	there is. and fear is a light word. the people are petrified.
We've been speaking with Qubad Talabani in his office here. He is the Kurdistan Regional Government's representative to the United States. Thanks so very much.	we've been speaking with. qubad talabani in his office here he is the kurdistan regional government's representative to the united states thanks, so very	We've been speaking with Qubad Talabani in his office here He is the Kurdistan Regional Government's representative to the United States Thanks, so very	we've been speaking with qubad talabani in his office here. he is the kurdistan regional government's representative to the united states. thanks so very much.
It's my pleasure. Thank you.	it's my pleasure thank	It's my pleasure Thank	it's my pleasure. thank you.
From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I'm Robert Siegel.	from, npr news this is all things considered i'm robert	From NPR News this, is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED I'm Robert	from npr news, this is all things considered. i'm robert siegel.
And I am Melissa Block.	and i am melissa,	And I am Melissa	and i am melissa block.
The world is full of unfortunate architecture. But out of all of it, city hall plaza in Boston has the distinction of being voted the worst public space in the world by a group that ranks these things. The 11-acre plaza around city hall is a barren windswept wasteland of brick and concrete. And many think the building ...	the world is full of unfortunate architecture but out. of all of it city hall plaza in boston has the distinction of being voted the worst public space in, the world, by a group that ranks these things the 11-acre plaza around city hall is a barren windswept, wasteland, of brick and concrete and many think the building...	The world is; full of unfortunate architecture But out of all of it city hall plaza in Boston has the distinction of. being voted the worst public space in the world by a group; that ranks these things The 11-acre plaza around city hall is a barren. windswept wasteland of brick and concrete And many think the building ...	the world is full of unfortunate architecture. but out of all of it, city hall plaza in boston has the distinction of being voted the worst public space in the world by a group that ranks these things. the 11-acre plaza around city hall is a barren windswept wasteland of brick and concrete. and many think the building ...
As NPR's Chris Arnold reports, the mayor of Boston is now talking about selling it and starting over.	as npr's chris arnold reports the mayor of boston is now talking about selling. it and starting	As NPR's Chris Arnold reports, the mayor of Boston is now talking about selling it. and starting	as npr's chris arnold reports, the mayor of boston is now talking about selling it and starting over.
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And Posner says to get a FISA warrant, you have to show probably cause - that is, grounds for believing the person you want to spy on is an enemy of the United States. Posner argues FISA should be amended to allow wiretapping without a warrant. A second witness - Kim Taipale of the Center for Advanced Studies in Scienc...	and posner says, to. get a. fisa warrant you have to show probably cause - that is grounds for believing the person you want to spy on is an enemy of, the united states posner argues fisa should be amended to allow wiretapping without a warrant. a second; witness - kim taipale of the, center for advanced studies in, sc...	And Posner says to. get a. FISA warrant you have to show probably cause - that is grounds for believing the person you want to spy on is an enemy of. the United States Posner argues. FISA should be amended to allow wiretapping without a warrant A, second witness - Kim Taipale of the Center for Advanced Studies in Scien...	and posner says to get a fisa warrant, you have to show probably cause - that is, grounds for believing the person you want to spy on is an enemy of the united states. posner argues fisa should be amended to allow wiretapping without a warrant. a second witness - kim taipale of the center for advanced studies in scienc...
The problem is that if we do both of those things, then what we've really done is to do away with the Fourth Amendment.	the problem. is that if we do both of those, things then what we've, really done is to do away with the fourth.	The, problem is that if we, do both of those things then what we've really done. is to do away with the Fourth	the problem is that if we do both of those things, then what we've really done is to do away with the fourth amendment.
Michael Greco, president of the American Bar Association.	michael greco president of the american bar	Michael Greco, president. of the. American Bar;	michael greco, president of the american bar association.
...because the strength of the Fourth Amendment is that it requires a particularized suspicion that someone is a terrorist or is cavorting with terrorists.	...because, the strength of the fourth amendment is that it requires a particularized suspicion that someone is a terrorist or is cavorting. with	...because the strength of the Fourth Amendment is that it requires a particularized suspicion that someone is a terrorist or is cavorting with	...because the strength of the fourth amendment is that it requires a particularized suspicion that someone is a terrorist or is cavorting with terrorists.