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Well, because nobody had a majority so it was a matter of assembling enough building blocks among these parties to have a majority.
well because nobody had a majority so. it was a matter of assembling enough building blocks among these parties to have a
Well because nobody had a. majority so it was a matter of assembling enough building blocks among these parties to have a
well, because nobody had a majority so it was a matter of assembling enough building blocks among these parties to have a majority.
That's right. He lost by two seats, his party did, but obviously the next step is to form a government. And it was always going to be difficult for Iyad Allawi, the leader of the rival Iraqiya list(ph), which is seen as a sort of secular list, although he is a Shiite. Most of his votes came from Sunnis and so it was al...
that's right he lost by two seats his party did but obviously the next step is to form a government and it was. always going to be difficult for, iyad allawi the leader of the rival iraqiya list(ph), which is seen, as a sort; of secular list although he, is a shiite most of his votes came from sunnis and so it was alwa...
That's right He lost by two seats his party did but obviously the. next step is to form a government, And it was always, going. to be difficult for Iyad Allawi the leader of the rival Iraqiya list(ph), which is. seen as a sort of secular list although he is a Shiite Most of his votes came, from Sunnis and so it was alw...
that's right. he lost by two seats, his party did, but obviously the next step is to form a government. and it was always going to be difficult for iyad allawi, the leader of the rival iraqiya list(ph), which is seen as a sort of secular list, although he is a shiite. most of his votes came from sunnis and so it was al...
You say that there was this party that got the most votes but hasn't been able to assemble a coalition that included both major religious groups. Instead, Nouri al-Maliki is close to assembling his majority and he would basically be relying on Shia votes to do that. What does that mean for Iraq?
you say that there was. this party that got the most votes but hasn't. been able to, assemble a coalition that included. both, major religious groups instead nouri, al-maliki is close to assembling his majority and he would basically be relying on, shia votes to do that what. does that mean for
You say that there was this party that got the, most votes but hasn't been able to assemble a coalition that included both major religious groups Instead, Nouri al-Maliki is close to assembling his majority and he would basically be relying on Shia votes to do that What does that mean for
you say that there was this party that got the most votes but hasn't been able to assemble a coalition that included both major religious groups. instead, nouri al-maliki is close to assembling his majority and he would basically be relying on shia votes to do that. what does that mean for iraq?
I'm not sure if that's the right word, but we are sometimes - get the feeling that we are strangers in our own country.
i'm not. sure if. that's; the right word but we. are sometimes - get the feeling that we are strangers in our own
I'm not sure if that's the right word but we are sometimes - get the feeling that we are. strangers in our own
i'm not sure if that's the right word, but we are sometimes - get the feeling that we are strangers in our own country.
Strangers in your own country. There is a sort of a divide within the Latino community between those who have been here - many people for generation upon generation upon generation, and newer arrivals, as some of whom arrive here without papers.
strangers in your own country there is a sort of a divide within the latino community, between. those, who have been here - many people for generation; upon generation upon generation and newer arrivals as some of whom arrive here. without
Strangers in your own country There is a sort of a divide within the Latino community between those who have been here - many people for generation upon generation upon generation and newer arrivals as some; of whom arrive here without
strangers in your own country. there is a sort of a divide within the latino community between those who have been here - many people for generation upon generation upon generation, and newer arrivals, as some of whom arrive here without papers.
Well, even those who - let me give you a better history. During the '30s, when we had the last Depression, perhaps close to a million Latino - particularly Mexican-American citizens, were illegally deployed into Mexico, illegally deported according to our laws. So what you're seeing is some of the grandchildren of thos...
well even those who - let me give you a better history during, the '30s when we had the last depression perhaps close to a million latino - particularly mexican-american citizens were illegally deployed into mexico illegally deported according to our laws so what you're seeing is some of the grandchildren of. those peo...
Well even those who - let me give you a better history During the '30s when we had the last, Depression perhaps close to a million Latino - particularly Mexican-American citizens were illegally deployed into Mexico illegally deported according to our, laws So what you're seeing is some of the grandchildren of those peo...
well, even those who - let me give you a better history. during the '30s, when we had the last depression, perhaps close to a million latino - particularly mexican-american citizens, were illegally deployed into mexico, illegally deported according to our laws. so what you're seeing is some of the grandchildren of thos...
There is also a pattern that does form, as you suggest, during economic bad times when people seem to want to find scapegoats. Do you fear that Latinos will be the scapegoats?
there is also a, pattern that does form as you suggest during economic bad times when; people seem to want to find scapegoats do you fear that latinos will be the
There is also a pattern that does form as you suggest. during economic bad times when people seem to want to find scapegoats. Do you fear that Latinos will be the
there is also a pattern that does form, as you suggest, during economic bad times when people seem to want to find scapegoats. do you fear that latinos will be the scapegoats?
Absolutely, we have a tradition in this country of trying to blame some group for malaise, whether it's the Italians during the crime days or whether it's Chinese workers who take our jobs. That's an unfortunate human condition.
absolutely we have a tradition. in this country of trying to blame some group for. malaise whether it's the italians during the crime days or whether it's chinese workers who take our jobs that's an unfortunate. human
Absolutely, we. have a tradition in this country, of trying to blame some group for malaise whether it's the Italians during the crime days or whether it's Chinese workers, who take our jobs That's an unfortunate human
absolutely, we have a tradition in this country of trying to blame some group for malaise, whether it's the italians during the crime days or whether it's chinese workers who take our jobs. that's an unfortunate human condition.
We're talking with Raul Yzaguirre, the civil rights activist, the former head of the National Council of La Raza, a national Hispanic advocacy organization and a think tank in the United States. If you'd like to join the conversation on This American Moment, give us a call, 800-989-8255. Email us, talk@npr.org. And let...
we're talking with, raul yzaguirre the civil rights activist the former head of the national. council of la, raza a national hispanic advocacy organization and a think tank in the united states if you'd like, to join the conversation on this american moment give us. a call 800-989-8255. email. us talk@npr.org and let's...
We're talking with Raul Yzaguirre the civil rights activist the former head of the National Council of La Raza a national Hispanic advocacy, organization and a think tank in the United States. If you'd like to join the conversation on This American Moment give us a call 800-989-8255. Email us talk@npr.org And let's sta...
we're talking with raul yzaguirre, the civil rights activist, the former head of the national council of la raza, a national hispanic advocacy organization and a think tank in the united states. if you'd like to join the conversation on this american moment, give us a call, 800-989-8255. email us, talk@npr.org. and let...
Yes, Raul, I want to commend Raul for all of his participation and how he has opened the doors for many second and third generation Latinos. Raul, the best to you.
yes raul i want to commend raul for all of his participation and how he has opened the doors for. many second and third generation latinos raul the, best to
Yes Raul I. want to commend Raul for. all of his participation and, how he has opened the doors for many; second and third generation Latinos Raul the best to
yes, raul, i want to commend raul for all of his participation and how he has opened the doors for many second and third generation latinos. raul, the best to you.
Thank you.
thank,
Thank
thank you.
My comment is - is from the perspective that Latinos are scapegoats right now. And the unfortunate thing that the whole immigration issue is an issue of racism and prejudice and - are easy to identify, just like the blacks are black individuals, they have black skin. Latinos are brown and they have brown skin, and they...
my comment; is - is from the perspective that latinos are scapegoats right now and the unfortunate. thing; that the whole immigration issue is an issue of racism and prejudice and - are easy to identify just like the blacks are black individuals they have black skin latinos, are brown and, they have brown skin and they...
My comment is - is from the perspective that Latinos are scapegoats right now And the unfortunate thing that the whole immigration issue; is an issue of, racism and prejudice and - are easy to identify just like the blacks are black individuals they have black skin Latinos are brown and they. have brown skin and they h...
my comment is - is from the perspective that latinos are scapegoats right now. and the unfortunate thing that the whole immigration issue is an issue of racism and prejudice and - are easy to identify, just like the blacks are black individuals, they have black skin. latinos are brown and they have brown skin, and they...
I think when we talk about revolution and change taking place, I think what needs to change is the way we think and how we formulate our ideas and our philosophies about who is American and who this country really belongs to. I think this election is an opportunity for the second and third generation Latinos to take a ...
i. think when we. talk about revolution and change taking place i think what; needs to change is the way we think and how we formulate our, ideas and our philosophies. about who is american and who, this country really, belongs to i think this election is an opportunity for the second and third generation. latinos to t...
I think when we talk about revolution, and change taking place I think what needs to change, is, the, way we think and how we, formulate our ideas and our philosophies about who is American and who this country really belongs to I think this election is an opportunity for the second and; third generation Latinos to tak...
i think when we talk about revolution and change taking place, i think what needs to change is the way we think and how we formulate our ideas and our philosophies about who is american and who this country really belongs to. i think this election is an opportunity for the second and third generation latinos to take a ...
Thank you for that, Charles. And I wonder, Raul Yzaguirre, as you listen to him, I'm sure that you find much to agree with. I wonder, though, and let me ask you both. Do you find any - is it just racism? Is it only racism if you say you want to protect the border?
thank you for that charles and i wonder. raul yzaguirre as you listen to, him, i'm sure that you, find much to agree. with i. wonder though and. let me ask you both. do you find any - is it just racism? is it only racism. if you, say you want to protect the
Thank you for that Charles And I wonder Raul. Yzaguirre as you listen to him I'm sure that you find much to agree with I wonder, though. and let me ask you both Do you find any - is. it just racism? Is it, only racism if you say you want. to protect the
thank you for that, charles. and i wonder, raul yzaguirre, as you listen to him, i'm sure that you find much to agree with. i wonder, though, and let me ask you both. do you find any - is it just racism? is it only racism if you say you want to protect the border?
No, of course not. There's lots of folks who are immigration restrictionists are not racist, and they're concerned about the legitimate issues such as crime and inability to control our borders. We are a sovereign nation, and we have the right to control our own borders, there's no question about that. But the fact rem...
no of course not there's lots of folks who are immigration restrictionists are not racist and they're concerned. about the legitimate issues such as crime and inability. to control; our. borders we are a sovereign nation and we have the right. to control our own borders there's no question about. that but the fact rema...
No of course not There's lots. of folks who are immigration restrictionists are not racist and they're concerned about the, legitimate. issues such as crime and inability to control. our borders We are a sovereign nation. and we have, the right to control our own borders there's no question about that But the. fact rem...
no, of course not. there's lots of folks who are immigration restrictionists are not racist, and they're concerned about the legitimate issues such as crime and inability to control our borders. we are a sovereign nation, and we have the right to control our own borders, there's no question about that. but the fact rem...
Charles, what do you think?
charles what do you
Charles, what do you
charles, what do you think?
I really think there are many issues, not only just racism, like there's an issue of security, but those kinds of issues, I think, are bloated up. I think one of the issues is that if we have an issue of security, there's biometric card identification systems we can put together. I think it's more that the American peo...
i really think there are many issues not only just racism like there's an issue of. security but those kinds of, issues i think are bloated up i think one of the issues, is that if we have an issue of security there's biometric card identification systems we can put together i think it's more that the american, people ...
I really. think there are many issues not only just racism like there's an issue of security but those kinds of issues I think are bloated up I think one of, the, issues is that if we; have an issue of security there's biometric card identification systems we can put together, I think it's more that the American people...
i really think there are many issues, not only just racism, like there's an issue of security, but those kinds of issues, i think, are bloated up. i think one of the issues is that if we have an issue of security, there's biometric card identification systems we can put together. i think it's more that the american peo...
I think that if the American public understood more of what these issues mean and how we can deal with security issues, hw we can protect our borders, how important trade with Mexico, with Latin America is, how important to maintain good relations with places like Ecuador, Venezuela, Bolivia, and how important those th...
i think that if the, american public understood more of what these issues mean and how we can deal, with security issues hw we, can protect our borders how important trade with mexico with latin america is, how important to maintain good. relations with places like ecuador venezuela bolivia and how important those thin...
I think that if the American public understood more of what these issues mean and how we can deal with security issues hw we can protect our borders how important trade with Mexico with Latin America is how, important to maintain good relations. with places, like Ecuador Venezuela Bolivia and how important those things...
i think that if the american public understood more of what these issues mean and how we can deal with security issues, hw we can protect our borders, how important trade with mexico, with latin america is, how important to maintain good relations with places like ecuador, venezuela, bolivia, and how important those th...
Charles...
charles...
You know, to protect America, that's - I think that's what affects it most.
you know to protect america that's - i think that's what affects it
You know to protect America that's - I think that's what affects it
you know, to protect america, that's - i think that's what affects it most.
OK, Charles. Thanks very much for the call. We appreciate it.
ok charles thanks very much, for the call we appreciate
OK Charles Thanks very much for the call We appreciate
ok, charles. thanks very much for the call. we appreciate it.
You're welcome.
you're
You're
you're welcome.
And let's see if we can get - this is Michael. Michael is with us from St. Louis.
and let's see if we can get - this is michael; michael, is with us from st
And let's. see if we can get. - this is Michael Michael is with, us from, St
and let's see if we can get - this is michael. michael is with us from st. louis.
MICHELE(ph) (Caller): Hi, it's Michele.
michele(ph) (caller): hi it's
MICHELE(ph) (Caller): Hi it's
michele(ph) (caller): hi, it's michele.
Michele, all right. Excuse me. I misread it. Go ahead please, Michele.
michele all right excuse me i misread it go ahead. please
Michele all right Excuse me I misread it Go ahead please
michele, all right. excuse me. i misread it. go ahead please, michele.
Fine. Basically, I agree with the previous caller. Being a Latino myself, my parents came from Puerto Rico in the '60s, and I was first generation born here. But still, immigration is such an issue, and I think that duty of our president and our - of the Congressmen and Senate is to educate the American people on the m...
fine basically i agree with the previous caller being a latino myself my parents came from puerto rico in the '60s and i was first generation born here but still immigration is such an issue and i think that duty of our president, and our - of the congressmen and. senate is to educate the. american people on the, meani...
Fine Basically I agree with the previous caller Being a Latino myself my parents came from Puerto; Rico in; the '60s and I was first generation born here But still immigration is such an issue and I think that. duty of. our president and our - of. the Congressmen. and Senate, is to. educate the. American people on the ...
fine. basically, i agree with the previous caller. being a latino myself, my parents came from puerto rico in the '60s, and i was first generation born here. but still, immigration is such an issue, and i think that duty of our president and our - of the congressmen and senate is to educate the american people on the m...
Raul Yzaguirre?
raul
Raul
raul yzaguirre?
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You know, the fundamental facts about the Hispanic reality are unknown to the American public. Latinos make good Americans. We work harder than any other group in this country. We fight more valiantly and spare more blood for this nation than any other group in this country. We're more family-oriented. We have deep rel...
you know the fundamental facts about the hispanic reality are unknown to the american public latinos make good americans we work harder. than any other group in this country we fight more valiantly and, spare more blood for this nation than any other group in this country we're more family-oriented we have deep religio...
You know the fundamental facts about the Hispanic reality are unknown, to the, American public Latinos make good Americans We work harder. than any other group in this country We fight more valiantly and spare more, blood for this nation than any other group in this country We're more family-oriented We have deep relig...
you know, the fundamental facts about the hispanic reality are unknown to the american public. latinos make good americans. we work harder than any other group in this country. we fight more valiantly and spare more blood for this nation than any other group in this country. we're more family-oriented. we have deep rel...
Michele, thanks very much for the call. And again, I apologize for getting your name wrong. We're talking with Raul Yzaguirre, the former head of the National Council of La Raza on This American Moment. You're listening to Talk of the Nation from NPR News. And let's see if we can go now to James, and James is with us f...
michele thanks very much for the call and again i apologize for getting your name wrong we're talking with raul yzaguirre the former head of the, national council of la raza on this, american moment you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news and let's see if we can go now; to james and james is with. us from,...
Michele thanks very much for the call And; again I apologize for getting your name wrong We're talking with Raul Yzaguirre the former head of the National Council of La, Raza on. This American Moment You're listening to Talk of the Nation from NPR News And let's see if we can go now, to James. and James is with us from...
michele, thanks very much for the call. and again, i apologize for getting your name wrong. we're talking with raul yzaguirre, the former head of the national council of la raza on this american moment. you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news. and let's see if we can go now to james, and james is with us f...
Yes, good afternoon. The point I would like to make is I certainly don't feel that I'm a racist at all, and I'm certainly not anti-immigration, but I feel the language accommodation has gone too far. I was born here, but my grandparents came from Germany and they learned the language. I really - as a native-born Americ...
yes good afternoon the. point; i would like to make is i; certainly don't feel that i'm a racist at all and i'm certainly not anti-immigration but i feel the. language accommodation has gone. too, far i was born here but my grandparents came from germany and they learned the language i really - as a native-born america...
Yes good afternoon The point I would like to make is I certainly don't feel that I'm a racist at, all and I'm certainly not anti-immigration but I feel the language accommodation has. gone too far I, was born here but my. grandparents came from Germany and, they learned the language I really - as a native-born American...
yes, good afternoon. the point i would like to make is i certainly don't feel that i'm a racist at all, and i'm certainly not anti-immigration, but i feel the language accommodation has gone too far. i was born here, but my grandparents came from germany and they learned the language. i really - as a native-born americ...
You resent pressing one for English. There's like - there's about eight languages there, usually on the bank.
you resent pressing one for english there's like, - there's about eight, languages there usually. on the
You resent pressing one for English There's like - there's, about eight. languages there usually on the
you resent pressing one for english. there's like - there's about eight languages there, usually on the bank.
What's that? It's not what I saw on the phone.
what's that? it's not what i saw on the
What's that? It's not what I saw on the
what's that? it's not what i saw on the phone.
OK. Well, thanks very much. Let's talk about the ATM Machine.
ok well thanks very much, let's. talk about the atm
OK Well thanks very much. Let's talk about, the ATM.
ok. well, thanks very much. let's talk about the atm machine.
That's something that I believe that the Latino community needs to address if they want to integrate properly into our society, and I feel they're welcome here.
that's something that i believe that the latino community, needs to address if they want to integrate properly into our society; and i feel they're welcome
That's something that I believe that the Latino community needs to, address if they want to integrate properly, into our society and I feel they're welcome
that's something that i believe that the latino community needs to address if they want to integrate properly into our society, and i feel they're welcome here.
OK. Thanks very much for the call, James. And Raul Yzaguirre, this is an issue for a lot of Americans. Again, that ATM machine offers about eight different languages. But go ahead, please.
ok thanks very much for the. call, james; and raul; yzaguirre this is an issue for a lot of americans again that atm machine offers about eight different languages but go ahead
OK Thanks very much for the call, James And Raul Yzaguirre this is an issue for a lot of Americans Again that ATM machine offers about eight different languages But go ahead
ok. thanks very much for the call, james. and raul yzaguirre, this is an issue for a lot of americans. again, that atm machine offers about eight different languages. but go ahead, please.
The facts are that Latinos who come into this country as immigrants learn English faster than any other previous immigrant group. Not fast enough. We think - we think that more needs to be done and more resources need to be made available. But you see folks getting off at 2 o'clock in the morning, got to work, to atten...
the facts are that latinos who come into this country as immigrants learn english faster than any other previous immigrant group not fast enough we think - we think. that more needs to be done and more resources need to, be made available but you see folks getting off at 2 o'clock in, the morning got to work to attend ...
The facts, are that Latinos who come, into this country as immigrants learn English faster than any other previous immigrant group Not fast enough We think - we think that more needs to be done and more resources need to be made available But you, see folks, getting; off at 2 o'clock in the, morning got to work to atte...
the facts are that latinos who come into this country as immigrants learn english faster than any other previous immigrant group. not fast enough. we think - we think that more needs to be done and more resources need to be made available. but you see folks getting off at 2 o'clock in the morning, got to work, to atten...
Let's see if we can go now to Andrew, Andrew with us from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
let's, see if we can go now to andrew andrew with us from. tulsa
Let's see if. we can go now to. Andrew Andrew with; us from Tulsa
let's see if we can go now to andrew, andrew with us from tulsa, oklahoma.
Hi, there.
hi
Hi
hi, there.
Hi, Andrew.
hi
Hi.
hi, andrew.
I am an illegal immigrant living in Tulsa but I am white, English-speaking with a British last name. And you know, guests touched on this already, saying that racism isn't the big issue, but I think that racism is bigger than it's - it's being portrayed because I don't have the same problems that obviously Latino immig...
i am an illegal immigrant living in tulsa but, i am white english-speaking with. a british last name and, you know guests touched on, this already saying that, racism isn't the. big issue but i think that racism is. bigger, than it's, - it's being portrayed because i don't have the same problems that obviously latino i...
I am an illegal immigrant living in Tulsa but I am white English-speaking with a British last name And you know. guests touched on this. already saying that racism isn't the big issue but I think that racism is bigger than it's - it's being portrayed because I don't have the same problems that obviously Latino immigran...
i am an illegal immigrant living in tulsa but i am white, english-speaking with a british last name. and you know, guests touched on this already, saying that racism isn't the big issue, but i think that racism is bigger than it's - it's being portrayed because i don't have the same problems that obviously latino immig...
I didn't say that racism was not a big issue. I said that people who are immigration restrictionists are not necessarily racist.
i didn't say that racism was not a big issue i said that people who are immigration restrictionists are not necessarily.
I didn't say, that racism was not a big issue, I said that people, who are immigration restrictionists are, not necessarily
i didn't say that racism was not a big issue. i said that people who are immigration restrictionists are not necessarily racist.
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i see.
Andrew.
andrew.
Well, you - you mentioned the Irish, and I completely agree with that point. Nobody sees white, English-speaking illegal immigrants as a problem. That's why I think that racism is what it mostly boils down to.
well you - you mentioned. the irish and i completely agree with that point nobody sees white english-speaking illegal immigrants as a problem that's why i think that racism is what it, mostly boils down
Well you - you mentioned the Irish; and I completely agree with that point Nobody sees white English-speaking illegal immigrants as a problem That's why I think that racism; is what it mostly boils down
well, you - you mentioned the irish, and i completely agree with that point. nobody sees white, english-speaking illegal immigrants as a problem. that's why i think that racism is what it mostly boils down to.
Where are you from, Andrew?
where are you from
Where are you from
where are you from, andrew?
I am from South Africa.
i am from south
I am from South
i am from south africa.
South Africa, all right. Well, thanks very much for the call.
south africa all right well thanks. very, much for the
South Africa all right Well thanks very much, for the
south africa, all right. well, thanks very much for the call.
Thank you.
thank
Thank
thank you.
And here's an email from Thomas in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Can you please ask your guest, what's the difference between immigration and illegal immigration? My wife just became a new American citizen, legally done. She and I believe rewarding people who break the law is a slap in the face of all the people who immigrat...
and here's an email from thomas in. baton rouge louisiana can. you please ask. your guest what's the difference between immigration and illegal immigration? my wife. just became a new american citizen legally done, she and i believe rewarding people who break the law is a slap in. the face of all the people who immigra...
And here's an email from Thomas in Baton Rouge Louisiana Can you please ask your, guest what's the difference between immigration and illegal immigration? My wife just became a new American citizen, legally done She and I believe rewarding people who break the law, is a slap in the face of all the people who immigrate,...
and here's an email from thomas in baton rouge, louisiana. can you please ask your guest, what's the difference between immigration and illegal immigration? my wife just became a new american citizen, legally done. she and i believe rewarding people who break the law is a slap in the face of all the people who immigrat...
That's a debate that needs more time than we have, but let me point out that it's not as easy as you think it is. People who come from Cuba on our shores, no different from people who come from Mexico, but they're considered illegal when they step on our shores. Similarly, a person who comes over on a tourist visa is l...
that's a debate that needs more time than we have but let me point out that it's not as easy as you think it is people who come from cuba on our shores. no different. from people who. come from mexico but they're considered illegal when they step, on; our shores similarly a person who comes over on a tourist visa is le...
That's a debate that needs more time than we have but let me point out that it's. not as easy as you think, it. is People who come from Cuba on our shores no, different. from people who come from Mexico. but they're considered illegal when they step on our, shores Similarly a person who comes over on a tourist visa is,...
that's a debate that needs more time than we have, but let me point out that it's not as easy as you think it is. people who come from cuba on our shores, no different from people who come from mexico, but they're considered illegal when they step on our shores. similarly, a person who comes over on a tourist visa is l...
So yes, we can mince words if we want to but the main reason is - the main fact is that America needs labor, and there's a demand for this labor. And we need to find a way to meet that need, that demand.
so. yes. we can mince words. if we want to but the main reason is - the main fact is that america needs labor and there's a demand for this. labor and we need to find a way to meet that need that
So yes we can mince words if we want. to but the main reason is - the main fact. is that, America. needs labor and there's a, demand for this labor And, we need to find a way, to meet that need that
so yes, we can mince words if we want to but the main reason is - the main fact is that america needs labor, and there's a demand for this labor. and we need to find a way to meet that need, that demand.
And there was a reform proposal that was brought up in Congress last time, a solid approach towards that which would involve, you know, a lot of penalties for people who are here illegally.
and there was a reform proposal that was brought up in congress last. time a solid approach towards that which would involve you, know a lot of penalties for people who are here
And there was a reform proposal that was brought up in Congress last. time; a, solid approach towards, that which would involve you know a lot of penalties for people who are here
and there was a reform proposal that was brought up in congress last time, a solid approach towards that which would involve, you know, a lot of penalties for people who are here illegally.
Well, they had, I guess, a proposal which was not perfect but it went in the right direction.
well they had i guess a proposal, which was not perfect but it went in the right
Well. they had I guess a proposal which was, not perfect but it went in the right
well, they had, i guess, a proposal which was not perfect but it went in the right direction.
I also have to ask you, just in terms of getting back to the election and politics. Earlier on, you endorsed Senator Clinton...
i also have to ask you just in terms of getting back to the election. and politics earlier on you endorsed senator;
I also have to ask you just in terms of getting back to the election and. politics Earlier on; you endorsed Senator.
i also have to ask you, just in terms of getting back to the election and politics. earlier on, you endorsed senator clinton...
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When she was up for the Democratic nomination. Now that she's out of the running, who are you endorsing now?
when. she was up, for the democratic nomination now that she's out of the running who are you endorsing
When she was up for the Democratic nomination Now that she's out of the running, who are you. endorsing
when she was up for the democratic nomination. now that she's out of the running, who are you endorsing now?
Well, I'm beginning to be more an op-ed writer. I'm going to keep that to myself, OK...
well i'm beginning, to be more an op-ed writer i'm going, to keep that, to myself;
Well I'm beginning to. be more an. op-ed writer I'm going to keep that; to myself
well, i'm beginning to be more an op-ed writer. i'm going to keep that to myself, ok...
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But I think we have two great candidates and I hope we can bring the kind of change that we need.
but i think we have two great candidates and i hope we can bring the kind of change that we
But I think we have two great candidates and I hope we can bring the kind of change that we
but i think we have two great candidates and i hope we can bring the kind of change that we need.
Raul Yzaguirre, very nice to have you on the program today. We appreciate your time.
raul yzaguirre very nice to. have you on the program today, we appreciate your
Raul Yzaguirre very nice to have you on the program today We appreciate, your
raul yzaguirre, very nice to have you on the program today. we appreciate your time.
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Raul Yzaguirre, the former president of the National Council of La Raza, with us here at the Arizona Historical Museum in Tempe, Arizona.
raul yzaguirre the former president of the national. council of la raza. with us here at. the arizona historical, museum in tempe
Raul Yzaguirre the former president of the National Council of La, Raza with us here at the Arizona Historical Museum in Tempe
raul yzaguirre, the former president of the national council of la raza, with us here at the arizona historical museum in tempe, arizona.
NPR's Martin Kaste reports that even though alleged gunman Jared Loughner was caught at the scene gun in the hand, the case is not open and shut.
npr's martin kaste reports that even though alleged gunman jared, loughner was caught at the scene gun in the hand. the case is not open and
NPR's, Martin Kaste, reports that even though alleged gunman Jared Loughner was caught at the scene gun in the hand. the case is not open and
npr's martin kaste reports that even though alleged gunman jared loughner was caught at the scene gun in the hand, the case is not open and shut.
The first few hours of this investigation were described as organized chaos. That's certainly what Roger Salzgeber remembers.
the first few hours of this investigation were described as organized chaos that's certainly what roger salzgeber.
The first, few hours of, this investigation were described as organized chaos That's certainly what Roger Salzgeber
the first few hours of this investigation were described as organized chaos. that's certainly what roger salzgeber remembers.
You know, it's really an interesting situation. I mean, in the old days, I would have looked at that blanket and said, `No, problem. You know, come on in. Everything will be fine.' And I think a lot of engineers would have thought that, too. But that's pre-Columbia. You know, in the post-Columb...
you know it's really, an interesting situation i mean in the old; days i would have looked at. that blanket and said `no, problem you know come on in everything. will be, fine' and i think a lot of engineers would, have thought that too but that's pre-columbia you know in the post-columbia worl...
You know it's really an interesting situation I mean, in. the old days. I would. have looked at that blanket and said `No problem You know. come on in Everything will be fine' And I think a lot of engineers would have thought that too, But that's pre-Columbia You know in the, post-Columbia worl...
you know, it's really an interesting situation. i mean, in the old days, i would have looked at that blanket and said, `no, problem. you know, come on in. everything will be fine.' and i think a lot of engineers would have thought that, too. but that's pre-columbia. you know, in the post-columb...
But you know, you really touched on a point. They have so much information now about what the shuttle looks like in orbit and the things that could affect entry that they never had before, that it really has caused a kind of--I hate to call it analysis paralysis, but it's sort of like that. They h...
but you know you really touched. on a point they have so much information; now, about what the shuttle looks like in orbit and the things that could affect entry that they never had before that it really has caused a kind of--i hate to call it analysis paralysis but it's, sort of like that they ha...
But you know you really touched on a point They have so much information now about what the, shuttle looks like in orbit and. the. things that could affect entry that they never had before that it. really has caused a kind of--I hate to call it analysis, paralysis but it's sort of like that They h...
but you know, you really touched on a point. they have so much information now about what the shuttle looks like in orbit and the things that could affect entry that they never had before, that it really has caused a kind of--i hate to call it analysis paralysis, but it's sort of like that. they h...
Yeah. I wonder if this--all this information is going to make it harder or easier for them to get back to flight, because, at least for the moment, I think, we've--we're in a situation where they've said, `No, until we've figured out this foam piece'--foam, which, in this case, did not hit the shut...
yeah i, wonder if, this--all this information is going. to make, it harder or easier for them to get back to, flight because at least for the moment i think we've--we're in a situation where they've said `no, until we've figured out this foam piece'--foam which. in this case did not, hit the shuttl...
Yeah I wonder if this--all, this information is going to make it harder or easier for them to. get back to flight because at least for the, moment I think. we've--we're in a situation where they've said `No until we've figured out this foam piece'--foam which, in this case did not hit the shuttle b...
yeah. i wonder if this--all this information is going to make it harder or easier for them to get back to flight, because, at least for the moment, i think, we've--we're in a situation where they've said, `no, until we've figured out this foam piece'--foam, which, in this case, did not hit the shut...
Well, yes and no. I mean, I think you're certainly correct; they're going to have to fix this before they fly again. If they can show that the foam that came off that we all saw was caused by, you know, a manufacturing flaw or, you know, a worker didn't do something right--in other words, if they ...
well yes and no. i mean i think you're certainly correct they're going to. have to fix this before they fly, again if they can. show, that the foam that came off that we all saw was caused by you know a manufacturing flaw or you know a worker didn't do something right--in other words if they can s...
Well yes and no I mean I think you're certainly correct they're going to. have to fix this before they fly again If they can show that the foam, that came off that we all saw was caused by you know. a manufacturing flaw or you know a worker didn't do something right--in other words, if they. can s...
well, yes and no. i mean, i think you're certainly correct; they're going to have to fix this before they fly again. if they can show that the foam that came off that we all saw was caused by, you know, a manufacturing flaw or, you know, a worker didn't do something right--in other words, if they ...
And I think the other part of that question, though, is what you were just talking about, with the blanket, once you're up in orbit. Will they for the rest of the program have all of this data and see things that they never saw before and--so that every mission is like this one, where they're off c...
and i think the other part of that question though is what you were just. talking about with the blanket once you're, up in orbit will they for the. rest of the program have all of this, data and see things that they never. saw before and--so, that every mission is like this one where they're off c...
And I think the other part of that question though is what you were just talking about with the blanket, once you're up in orbit Will they for the rest of the program. have all of this data and see things that; they never saw before and--so that every mission is like, this one where they're off cha...
and i think the other part of that question, though, is what you were just talking about, with the blanket, once you're up in orbit. will they for the rest of the program have all of this data and see things that they never saw before and--so that every mission is like this one, where they're off c...
Yeah. Well, they still managed to get a couple things done on this mission besides inspect themselves. What kinds of things did they get accomplished?
yeah well they still managed to get a couple things done on this mission, besides inspect themselves what kinds of things did they get
Yeah, Well they still managed, to get a couple things done on this mission besides inspect, themselves What kinds of things did they get
yeah. well, they still managed to get a couple things done on this mission besides inspect themselves. what kinds of things did they get accomplished?
Well, they did. You know, the other goal of this flight was to resupply the International Space Station, and of course, they took up a new gyroscope. The station uses these gyros to reposition itself so it doesn't have to use up rocket fuel, which is in short supply. So the gyro is pretty critica...
well, they, did you know the other goal of, this flight was to resupply the international space station and of course they took up a new, gyroscope the station uses these gyros to reposition itself so it doesn't have to use up rocket. fuel which is in short supply so the gyro is pretty critical ...
Well, they did, You know the other goal of this flight was, to resupply. the International Space Station and of course they took up a new gyroscope The station uses these gyros to reposition itself so it doesn't have to use up rocket fuel which is in short supply So the gyro, is pretty critical ...
well, they did. you know, the other goal of this flight was to resupply the international space station, and of course, they took up a new gyroscope. the station uses these gyros to reposition itself so it doesn't have to use up rocket fuel, which is in short supply. so the gyro is pretty critica...
Along with fresh water, supplies, equipment, extra computers, they're also bringing down a lot of material that's just been accumulating up there since the shuttle hasn't been flying. You know, the Russians routinely go up and down with their Soyuz ferry craft and Progress supply ships, but they ca...
along with fresh water supplies equipment extra computers they're also bringing, down a lot of material that's, just been accumulating up. there since the, shuttle hasn't been flying you know. the russians routinely go up and down with their. soyuz ferry craft and progress supply ships but they can...
Along with fresh water supplies, equipment extra computers they're also bringing down a lot of material that's just been accumulating up there since the shuttle hasn't been flying You know the Russians routinely go up. and down with their Soyuz ferry craft and Progress supply ships but they cannot ...
along with fresh water, supplies, equipment, extra computers, they're also bringing down a lot of material that's just been accumulating up there since the shuttle hasn't been flying. you know, the russians routinely go up and down with their soyuz ferry craft and progress supply ships, but they ca...
Someone asked me, though, I mean, why can't they, you know, shove it into the space lock, open the hatch and have it just vent into space? I mean, I suppose it's not a nice thing to do to dump your trash, but couldn't they do that?
someone asked me though i mean why can't they you know shove it into the space lock open the hatch and have it just vent into space? i mean i suppose it's not a nice. thing to do to dump your trash, but. couldn't they do
Someone asked me though I mean why can't they you know shove it into the space lock open the hatch and have it just vent into space? I mean I suppose it's not a nice thing to do to dump your trash but couldn't they do
someone asked me, though, i mean, why can't they, you know, shove it into the space lock, open the hatch and have it just vent into space? i mean, i suppose it's not a nice thing to do to dump your trash, but couldn't they do that?
Well, they certainly could, but nobody would want them to for two reasons. One, there's a lot of space junk in orbit right now, and you remember that every single thing up there is moving at five miles per second. Now when you dump, you know, a piece of trash out the airlock, it's going five miles ...
well. they. certainly could but. nobody would want them to for two reasons one there's a lot of space junk in orbit right now and you remember that. every single thing up there is moving at five miles per second now when you dump you know a piece of trash out the airlock, it's. going. five miles pe...
Well they, certainly could but nobody would. want them to for two reasons One there's a lot of space junk in orbit right, now and you remember that every single thing up there is moving at. five miles per second, Now when you dump you know a piece of trash out, the airlock it's going five miles per...
well, they certainly could, but nobody would want them to for two reasons. one, there's a lot of space junk in orbit right now, and you remember that every single thing up there is moving at five miles per second. now when you dump, you know, a piece of trash out the airlock, it's going five miles ...
So what does happen in the next couple days? They've finished their space walks, they're still transferring material. What comes next?
so what does happen in the next, couple days? they've, finished their space walks they're still transferring material what comes
So what does happen in the next couple days? They've finished their space walks they're still transferring material What. comes
so what does happen in the next couple days? they've finished their space walks, they're still transferring material. what comes next?
Well, the transferring's done. They loaded up their big module, their cargo module, and put that back in the cargo bay earlier today to bring it back to Earth. Virtually all the transfer work has been done. The next item on the agenda is the crew wakes up later tonight and then they undock very ea...
well the, transferring's done they loaded up their big module their, cargo module, and put that back. in the cargo bay earlier today. to bring; it back to earth virtually, all the transfer; work has been done the next item, on the agenda, is the crew wakes up later tonight and then they undock ver...
Well the transferring's done. They loaded up their big, module their cargo module and put that back in the cargo, bay earlier today to bring it back to Earth Virtually all the transfer work has been done. The next item on the agenda is; the crew wakes up later tonight and then they undock very ear...
well, the transferring's done. they loaded up their big module, their cargo module, and put that back in the cargo bay earlier today to bring it back to earth. virtually all the transfer work has been done. the next item on the agenda is the crew wakes up later tonight and then they undock very ea...
Have they got concerns about the weather? I keep hearing weather coming up as an issue, but do they see something on the horizon, as it were?
have they got concerns about the weather? i keep hearing weather coming up as an issue but do they see something; on the horizon as it
Have they, got concerns about the weather? I keep. hearing weather, coming up as an issue but do they see something on the horizon as it
have they got concerns about the weather? i keep hearing weather coming up as an issue, but do they see something on the horizon, as it were?
Next on NEWS & NOTES, Eric Jerome Dickey's "Pulp Fiction" and Afro-beat remade as our staff Pick of the Week.
next on, news & notes eric, jerome dickey's "pulp fiction" and, afro-beat remade as our staff pick of the
Next on NEWS & NOTES Eric Jerome Dickey's "Pulp Fiction" and Afro-beat remade as our staff Pick of the
next on news & notes, eric jerome dickey's "pulp fiction" and afro-beat remade as our staff pick of the week.
So you think they would definitely--I mean, they wouldn't switch to Edwards on Monday? You think they would wait till Tuesday to back up to Edwards.
so you think they would definitely--i mean they wouldn't switch to. edwards on monday? you think they would wait till tuesday. to back up to
So you think they would. definitely--I mean they wouldn't switch to. Edwards on Monday? You think they; would wait till Tuesday to; back up to
so you think they would definitely--i mean, they wouldn't switch to edwards on monday? you think they would wait till tuesday to back up to edwards.
As long as two things happen. The Edwards forecast has to still be good, meaning they'd have confidence they could always go to Edwards on Tuesday if they needed to and have some hope of getting into Florida. I mean, when you land in California, you know, it costs roughly $5 million to ferry the s...
as long as two things happen the edwards, forecast has to still be good meaning they'd have confidence they could always go to edwards on tuesday if they needed to and have some hope, of getting into florida i mean when you land in california. you know it costs roughly $5 million to ferry the spac...
As long, as two things happen The Edwards forecast has to still be good meaning they'd have confidence they could. always go to. Edwards on Tuesday if they needed to and have some hope of getting into Florida I mean when you land in California. you; know it costs roughly $5 million to, ferry the s...
as long as two things happen. the edwards forecast has to still be good, meaning they'd have confidence they could always go to edwards on tuesday if they needed to and have some hope of getting into florida. i mean, when you land in california, you know, it costs roughly $5 million to ferry the s...
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Well, let's take a call from one of our listeners and go to Scott.
well let's take. a call from one of our listeners and go to
Well, let's take a call. from one, of our listeners and, go to
well, let's take a call from one of our listeners and go to scott.
Scott from Jackson, Michigan, are you there?
scott. from jackson michigan are you
Scott from Jackson Michigan. are you
scott from jackson, michigan, are you there?
Yes, I'm here.
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Yes, I'm
yes, i'm here.
Hi. What's your question?
hi what's your
Hi What's your,
hi. what's your question?
Well, I just have a comment, actually. I just want to mention what I would call our parallel launch capability that I think that we have with the Air Force, you know, involving what I would call a Titan or Titan 3, but now it's evolved into perhaps the Titan 4, you know, booster that--ironically du...
well i just have a comment actually i just want to mention what i would call our parallel launch capability that. i think that we have with the air force you know involving what i would, call a titan or titan 3, but now. it's evolved. into perhaps, the; titan 4, you know booster that--ironically du...
Well I just, have a comment actually I just want to mention what I. would call our parallel launch capability that I, think that we have with the Air Force you know involving what I would call a Titan or Titan 3, but now it's evolved into perhaps the Titan 4, you know booster that--ironically durin...
well, i just have a comment, actually. i just want to mention what i would call our parallel launch capability that i think that we have with the air force, you know, involving what i would call a titan or titan 3, but now it's evolved into perhaps the titan 4, you know, booster that--ironically du...
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...the insider, you know. But I would say that we have a--we maintained a capability to, you know, launch, you know, satellites into space. And also I don't know if there's, you know, any possibility of, you know, having a manned rescue mission using the Titan booster, although it's completely capa...
...the insider you know but i would say that. we have a--we maintained a capability to you know launch you know satellites. into space and also i don't know if there's you know any possibility of you know having a manned rescue, mission using the titan booster although it's completely capable of th...
...the insider you know But I would. say that we have a--we maintained a capability to you, know launch you know satellites into space And also I don't know if there's you know any possibility of you know having a manned. rescue mission. using the Titan, booster although it's completely capable of ...
...the insider, you know. but i would say that we have a--we maintained a capability to, you know, launch, you know, satellites into space. and also i don't know if there's, you know, any possibility of, you know, having a manned rescue mission using the titan booster, although it's completely capa...
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...and the next, you know, space plane that's supposed to come down the line.
...and, the next, you know space plane that's supposed to come down the
...and the next you know space plane that's; supposed to come down. the
...and the next, you know, space plane that's supposed to come down the line.
OK. Scott, let's let Bill answer that. I mean, is there an alternate to the shuttle for manned flight at this point, Bill?
ok scott let's let, bill answer that i mean is there an alternate to the shuttle for manned flight at this point
OK Scott let's let Bill answer that. I mean is there an alternate to the shuttle for manned flight at this point
ok. scott, let's let bill answer that. i mean, is there an alternate to the shuttle for manned flight at this point, bill?
Well, not now. He's correct that the upgraded Titan boosters which, by the way, are being phased out as we speak--they're being replaced by big Atlas and Delta boosters, but there is no manned craft to put on top yet. And it will be several years, at least until 2010, maybe 2011, before the replace...
well not now he's correct that the upgraded. titan. boosters which by the way are. being phased out as we speak--they're being replaced by big atlas, and delta boosters but there is. no manned, craft to put on top yet. and it will be several years at least until 2010, maybe 2011, before the replace...
Well not now He's correct that the upgraded Titan boosters which by the way are being phased out as, we speak--they're, being replaced by big Atlas and Delta, boosters but there is no manned craft, to put on top yet And it will be several. years at least until 2010, maybe 2011, before the replaceme...
well, not now. he's correct that the upgraded titan boosters which, by the way, are being phased out as we speak--they're being replaced by big atlas and delta boosters, but there is no manned craft to put on top yet. and it will be several years, at least until 2010, maybe 2011, before the replace...
Yeah. And I'm wondering about that. I mean, where's the--I mean, if the shuttle stands down for any considerable length of time because of, you know, concerns about this foam issue, where does that leave the whole program?
yeah and i'm wondering about that i mean. where's the--i mean if the shuttle. stands down for any considerable length of time because of you know concerns about this foam issue where, does that leave the whole.
Yeah And I'm wondering about that I mean where's the--I. mean if the shuttle stands down for any considerable length of time because of you know, concerns about this foam issue where does; that leave. the whole
yeah. and i'm wondering about that. i mean, where's the--i mean, if the shuttle stands down for any considerable length of time because of, you know, concerns about this foam issue, where does that leave the whole program?
Well, that is the central question in all of this right now. I mean, NASA's on the record as saying they want to fix the problem and resume flights, but they're also adamant--the administrator Mike Griffin is adamant that the program's going to be retired in 2010. That's at the direction of the pre...
well that is the central question in all; of this right now i mean nasa's on the record as saying they want to fix the problem and resume flights but they're also adamant--the administrator mike griffin is adamant that the. program's going to be retired in 2010. that's at the direction of the presi...
Well that is. the central question in all, of this right now I mean NASA's on the record as saying they want to fix the problem and resume flights but; they're also adamant--the administrator Mike Griffin is adamant that, the program's going to be retired in 2010. That's at the direction of the pre...
well, that is the central question in all of this right now. i mean, nasa's on the record as saying they want to fix the problem and resume flights, but they're also adamant--the administrator mike griffin is adamant that the program's going to be retired in 2010. that's at the direction of the pre...
The reason--and I think there's some logic to that. They need to get a pretty rapid fix on this. But, you know, they're committed to finishing the International Space Station. I mean, that's a promise to the European Space Agency and Japan that they would launch these big modules those space agen...
the, reason--and i think there's some. logic to that they; need, to get a pretty rapid fix on this but, you know they're, committed to finishing. the international space station. i mean that's a promise. to the european space agency and japan that they would launch these big modules, those; space...
The reason--and I think there's some logic to that They, need to get a pretty rapid fix on this But you know they're committed to finishing the International, Space Station I mean that's a promise to the European Space Agency and Japan that they. would launch these big modules those space agencie...
the reason--and i think there's some logic to that. they need to get a pretty rapid fix on this. but, you know, they're committed to finishing the international space station. i mean, that's a promise to the european space agency and japan that they would launch these big modules those space agen...
Right. Bill, we only have about a minute left, but just quickly, I mean, people have talked about a change in culture at NASA, and whether that's possible, whether they're really paying attention to problems now. Do you see that change in culture, or do you think it's just lip service?
right bill we only, have, about a. minute left but just quickly i; mean, people have talked about a change in culture at nasa and whether that's possible whether they're really paying attention, to problems now do you see that change in culture or do you think it's just lip
Right Bill we only have about a minute left but just quickly I mean people have talked, about a change in culture at NASA, and whether that's possible whether they're really paying attention to. problems, now Do you see that change in culture or do you think it's just lip
right. bill, we only have about a minute left, but just quickly, i mean, people have talked about a change in culture at nasa, and whether that's possible, whether they're really paying attention to problems now. do you see that change in culture, or do you think it's just lip service?
I think that culture change on that scale will take years to complete, but if you look at the way this mission has been conducted and the level of scrutiny that they've put into every little thing that came up, I can assure you this is not the same NASA that launched Columbia. It is a level of scru...
i think, that culture change on that scale will take years to complete but if you look at the way this mission has been conducted and the level of scrutiny that they've put into every little thing that came up i can assure you this is not the same nasa that launched columbia it is a level of scruti...
I think that culture change on that scale. will take years to complete but if you look at the way this mission, has been conducted and the level of scrutiny that they've put into every little, thing that came up I can assure you. this is not the same NASA that launched Columbia It is, a level of sc...
i think that culture change on that scale will take years to complete, but if you look at the way this mission has been conducted and the level of scrutiny that they've put into every little thing that came up, i can assure you this is not the same nasa that launched columbia. it is a level of scru...
Well, I hope--right. Well, I guess we all hope they'll find their balance someplace.
well i hope--right well i, guess we all. hope they'll find their balance
Well I hope--right Well I guess we all hope they'll find. their balance
well, i hope--right. well, i guess we all hope they'll find their balance someplace.
Anyway, Bill Harwood, thank you very much.
anyway. bill harwood thank you very
Anyway Bill Harwood thank you very
anyway, bill harwood, thank you very much.