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True story. | true | True | true story. |
There you have it. | there you have | There you have | there you have it. |
Now you know. | now you | Now you | now you know. |
Yeah, Michael Bloomberg is in his third term as mayor of New York, and he's behind the city's smoking ban, the bike lanes, and an effort to plant a million trees. But you've already heard these things about his honor many times. | yeah michael bloomberg is in his, third term as mayor of new. york and he's behind the city's smoking ban. the bike lanes and an effort to plant a million trees but you've already heard these, things about his honor many | Yeah Michael; Bloomberg is, in his third term as mayor of New York and he's behind the city's, smoking ban the bike lanes and. an effort to plant a million trees But you've already heard these things about his honor many | yeah, michael bloomberg is in his third term as mayor of new york, and he's behind the city's smoking ban, the bike lanes, and an effort to plant a million trees. but you've already heard these things about his honor many times. |
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But there's a side to the mayor we want to talk about tonight, and that is sort of the geeky side of Mayor Bloomberg, which you probably don't know much about. He's an electrical engineer, has a degree in electrical engineering, correct? | but there's a, side to the mayor we want to talk about tonight and that is sort of the geeky side of mayor bloomberg which you, probably don't know much about he's an electrical engineer has a degree in electrical engineering | But there's a side to the mayor we want to talk, about tonight and that is sort of the geeky side of. Mayor Bloomberg which you probably don't know much about He's an electrical engineer has a degree in electrical engineering | but there's a side to the mayor we want to talk about tonight, and that is sort of the geeky side of mayor bloomberg, which you probably don't know much about. he's an electrical engineer, has a degree in electrical engineering, correct? |
Well, I was an electrical engineering student, but none of my professors thought that I would ever be an electrical engineer, which is why I went to business school. | well i was an electrical engineering student but none of my professors thought that i would ever be an electrical engineer which is why i went to business | Well. I was an electrical engineering, student but, none of my professors thought that I would ever be an electrical engineer which is why I went to business | well, i was an electrical engineering student, but none of my professors thought that i would ever be an electrical engineer, which is why i went to business school. |
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You tweeted that your New Year's resolution was to learn computer code. | you tweeted that your new year's resolution was to learn. computer | You tweeted that your New. Year's resolution was to learn computer | you tweeted that your new year's resolution was to learn computer code. |
I didn't tweet that, but my staff did. | i didn't tweet that but my staff | I didn't tweet that but my staff | i didn't tweet that, but my staff did. |
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So we take that as a no? | so we take that as a | So we. take, that as a | so we take that as a no? |
No, and in all fairness, I got a lot of applause for the million trees. Bette Midler is the one that deserves the credit. It was her idea. She has spearheaded raising the money for that. And I think we've planted about 600,000 of the million trees so far. But the great Ms. M. deserves the credit, she really does. | no and in all fairness i got a lot. of applause for the million trees bette midler is the one that deserves; the credit it was her idea she has spearheaded raising the money for that and i think we've planted about 600,000 of the million trees so far but the great ms m deserves the credit, she really | No. and in, all fairness I got a lot of applause for the million trees Bette. Midler is the one that deserves the credit It was her idea She has spearheaded raising the money for that And I think we've planted about 600,000 of the million trees. so, far But the great Ms M deserves the credit she, really | no, and in all fairness, i got a lot of applause for the million trees. bette midler is the one that deserves the credit. it was her idea. she has spearheaded raising the money for that. and i think we've planted about 600,000 of the million trees so far. but the great ms. m. deserves the credit, she really does. |
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I heard somewhere that you build a ham radio as a child. | i heard somewhere that you build a ham radio as a | I heard somewhere that you build a ham radio as a | i heard somewhere that you build a ham radio as a child. |
I was a ham radio operator, yeah. | i was a ham radio operator | I was a ham radio operator | i was a ham radio operator, yeah. |
What was your call letters, do you remember? | what was your call letters do you | What was your call letters, do you | what was your call letters, do you remember? |
I don't remember, just don't remember. My Morse code, I was OK with the code, but I can't spell and for Morse code that's a big problem. | i don't remember just don't remember my morse code i was ok with, the. code but i can't spell and for morse code that's a big | I don't remember just don't remember My Morse code I. was OK with the code but I can't. spell and for Morse code; that's a big | i don't remember, just don't remember. my morse code, i was ok with the code, but i can't spell and for morse code that's a big problem. |
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Where do you think your love for science began? Did you always have that? | where do you think your love for, science began? did you always have | Where do you, think your love for science began? Did you always, have | where do you think your love for science began? did you always have that? |
I grew up going to the Museum of Science in Boston. Every Saturday morning, they had classes for a couple of hours, and I don't know how somebody got me interested at the beginning or got me to go, but I lived in Medford, Massachusetts. I'd take the bus to Sullivan Square, the subway into I forget where you changed to ... | i grew up going to the museum of science in boston every saturday morning they had, classes for a. couple of hours and. i don't know how somebody got me, interested at. the. beginning or got me to, go but i lived in medford massachusetts, i'd take the, bus to sullivan square the subway into i forget where you changed t... | I. grew up going to the Museum of Science in Boston Every Saturday. morning they. had classes for. a couple of hours and I don't know how somebody got, me interested at the beginning or got, me to, go but I lived in Medford Massachusetts I'd take the bus to Sullivan Square the subway into I forget where you changed to ... | i grew up going to the museum of science in boston. every saturday morning, they had classes for a couple of hours, and i don't know how somebody got me interested at the beginning or got me to go, but i lived in medford, massachusetts. i'd take the bus to sullivan square, the subway into i forget where you changed to ... |
And I've always liked things where you can understand from beginning to end, and it's rational. And that's why I've been studying Spanish for six, seven years now and trying to learn to play golf for seven or eight years, and I'm terrible at both. And part of the reason is I think sequentially, and when the instructor ... | and i've always liked things where you can understand from beginning, to end and it's rational and that's why i've been studying, spanish for six, seven years now and trying to learn to play golf for seven or eight years and i'm terrible. at both and part of the reason is i think sequentially, and when the instructor, ... | And I've always liked things where you can understand; from beginning to end and it's rational And that's why I've been studying Spanish, for six seven years now and trying to learn to play golf for, seven or eight years and I'm terrible at both And part of the reason is I think sequentially and when the instructor say... | and i've always liked things where you can understand from beginning to end, and it's rational. and that's why i've been studying spanish for six, seven years now and trying to learn to play golf for seven or eight years, and i'm terrible at both. and part of the reason is i think sequentially, and when the instructor ... |
If I don't understand it and understand the spelling and the termination and the rule that says the pronoun goes before, and the subject goes afterwards, or in my golf swing, your hands are here, and your wrists are there, and... | if i don't understand it and understand the spelling and the termination and the rule that. says the pronoun goes before and the subject goes afterwards or in my golf swing your hands are here and your wrists are, there | If I don't understand it and understand the spelling and the termination and the rule that. says the pronoun goes before. and the subject goes afterwards or in my golf swing your hands are here and your. wrists are there | if i don't understand it and understand the spelling and the termination and the rule that says the pronoun goes before, and the subject goes afterwards, or in my golf swing, your hands are here, and your wrists are there, and... |
A lot to think about in... | a lot to think about | A lot to think about | a lot to think about in... |
And being an engineer has its disadvantages, too. | and being an engineer has its disadvantages | And being an engineer has its disadvantages | and being an engineer has its disadvantages, too. |
I have an engineering degree myself. I understand exactly... | i have an. engineering; degree myself i understand, | I. have an engineering degree myself I understand | i have an engineering degree myself. i understand exactly... |
It's just literal. | it's just | It's just | it's just literal. |
...what you're talking about, you deconstruct everything and figure out how it works. | ...what you're talking. about you deconstruct everything and figure out how it | ...what. you're talking about you deconstruct everything and figure out how it | ...what you're talking about, you deconstruct everything and figure out how it works. |
But that's what I like. I love - I'm a pilot, and I love flying in bad weather because all of the instruments, if you don't really believe, you die. | but. that's what i, like i love - i'm a pilot. and i love flying in bad weather because all of the instruments if you don't really believe you | But. that's what I like I love - I'm a pilot and I love flying in bad. weather because all of the instruments if you don't really believe you | but that's what i like. i love - i'm a pilot, and i love flying in bad weather because all of the instruments, if you don't really believe, you die. |
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OK, OK, that's not our theory. That's from "Monty Python's Flying Circus." | ok ok that's not our theory that's from "monty, python's flying | OK OK that's not our theory That's. from "Monty. Python's Flying | ok, ok, that's not our theory. that's from "monty python's flying circus." |
I think out of everyone we have in the U.K. at the moment, she is possibly the best hand to be on the wheel. I know many people who say that they've met her and she seems very capable. | i think out of everyone we have in the u.k at the moment she is possibly the best hand to be on, the wheel i know many people who say. that they've met her and she seems very | I think out of everyone we have in the U.K, at the, moment she is possibly the best hand to be on the wheel I know; many people who say that. they've met her and she seems very | i think out of everyone we have in the u.k. at the moment, she is possibly the best hand to be on the wheel. i know many people who say that they've met her and she seems very capable. |
A former home secretary known for businesslike efficiency, May was seen as the only adult left standing after the country's post-referendum chaos. Now her skills will be tested by the country's greatest political challenge in decades. Frank Langfitt, NPR News, London. | a former home secretary known for businesslike efficiency may was seen, as the only adult left standing after the country's post-referendum chaos now, her skills, will be tested by the country's greatest political challenge in decades frank langfitt npr news | A. former home secretary known for businesslike efficiency. May was. seen as the only adult left standing after the country's post-referendum chaos Now her skills, will be tested by the; country's greatest political challenge in decades Frank Langfitt NPR News | a former home secretary known for businesslike efficiency, may was seen as the only adult left standing after the country's post-referendum chaos. now her skills will be tested by the country's greatest political challenge in decades. frank langfitt, npr news, london. |
President Trump says he's open to new ways of solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He's willing to shift from long-standing U.S. policy that endorses an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel. Here's what he said at a news conference last month. | president trump says he's, open to new ways of solving the israeli-palestinian conflict he's willing to shift from long-standing u.s policy that endorses an independent palestinian state, alongside, israel here's what he said at a news conference last | President Trump says he's open to new ways of solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict He's willing to shift from, long-standing U.S policy that, endorses an, independent Palestinian state alongside Israel Here's what he said at a news. conference last | president trump says he's open to new ways of solving the israeli-palestinian conflict. he's willing to shift from long-standing u.s. policy that endorses an independent palestinian state alongside israel. here's what he said at a news conference last month. |
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So I'm looking at two-state and one-state. And I like the one that both parties like. | so. i'm looking at two-state and one-state and i like the one that both parties | So I'm looking at two-state and one-state And I like the one that, both parties, | so i'm looking at two-state and one-state. and i like the one that both parties like. |
Well, that openness has encouraged Israelis to promote a wide range of peace plans of their own. NPR's Daniel Estrin reports from Jerusalem. | well that openness has encouraged israelis to promote a wide range of peace plans, of their own npr's daniel estrin reports. from | Well that openness has encouraged Israelis to promote a wide range of peace plans of their own. NPR's Daniel Estrin, reports from | well, that openness has encouraged israelis to promote a wide range of peace plans of their own. npr's daniel estrin reports from jerusalem. |
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An Israeli advocacy group recently invited foreign diplomats and journalists for a kind of speed dating event. Several speakers had 10 minutes each to say how they would solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. First up was former peace negotiator Gadi Baltiansky. | an israeli advocacy group recently invited foreign diplomats and journalists for a kind of speed dating event several speakers had 10 minutes each to say how they would solve the israeli-palestinian conflict first up was former peace negotiator gadi | An Israeli advocacy group recently invited foreign diplomats and journalists for a kind of speed dating event Several speakers had 10 minutes each, to say, how they would solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict First up was former peace negotiator Gadi | an israeli advocacy group recently invited foreign diplomats and journalists for a kind of speed dating event. several speakers had 10 minutes each to say how they would solve the israeli-palestinian conflict. first up was former peace negotiator gadi baltiansky. |
Now with an American president that says that he wants to reach a deal - he doesn't care how, but he wants a deal - there is a new window for opportunity if we act now. | now with an american, president that says that, he wants to reach a deal. - he doesn't care how but he wants a deal - there is a new window for, opportunity if we act | Now with an American president that says that he wants to reach a deal - he doesn't care how but he wants a deal - there is a. new window; for opportunity if we act | now with an american president that says that he wants to reach a deal - he doesn't care how, but he wants a deal - there is a new window for opportunity if we act now. |
The other speakers included two former Israeli military colonels, a former advocate for road safety, an Israeli lawmaker, a Jewish settler-poet, a Palestinian activist, even an Israeli physicist. A quick reminder of the situation on the ground today - Israel occupies the West Bank, citing historical ties and security n... | the other speakers included two former israeli military colonels a; former advocate for; road safety an israeli lawmaker. a jewish settler-poet a palestinian activist even an israeli physicist a quick reminder of; the situation on the ground today - israel, occupies the west bank citing historical ties and security nee... | The other speakers included two former Israeli military colonels a former advocate for road safety an Israeli lawmaker a Jewish settler-poet. a Palestinian activist even an Israeli physicist A quick reminder of the situation on the ground today - Israel occupies the West Bank, citing. historical ties and security needs... | the other speakers included two former israeli military colonels, a former advocate for road safety, an israeli lawmaker, a jewish settler-poet, a palestinian activist, even an israeli physicist. a quick reminder of the situation on the ground today - israel occupies the west bank, citing historical ties and security n... |
But President Trump has opened the door to other possibilities. And that has energized Israeli right wing politicians like lawmaker Yehuda Glick. He outlined his plan for the West Bank, referring to it by its biblical name, Judea and Samaria. | but president trump. has opened the, door to other possibilities and that has; energized israeli, right wing politicians like lawmaker yehuda glick he outlined; his plan for the west bank referring to it by its biblical name judea and | But President. Trump has, opened the door to other, possibilities And that has energized Israeli right wing politicians like lawmaker Yehuda Glick He outlined his plan for the, West Bank referring to it by its biblical name Judea and | but president trump has opened the door to other possibilities. and that has energized israeli right wing politicians like lawmaker yehuda glick. he outlined his plan for the west bank, referring to it by its biblical name, judea and samaria. |
The only way to receive equality is by imposing Jewish sovereignty, Israeli sovereignty over - all over Judea and Samaria. | the, only way to. receive, equality is by imposing jewish sovereignty israeli sovereignty over - all over judea and | The only way to receive equality is by imposing Jewish. sovereignty Israeli sovereignty over - all over Judea and | the only way to receive equality is by imposing jewish sovereignty, israeli sovereignty over - all over judea and samaria. |
Many Israeli right wing plans call for unilaterally annexing some or all of the West Bank, declaring it part of Israel. Then there are all kinds of two-state proposals. One unconventional plan is a joint Israeli-Palestinian initiative called Two States One Homeland. It calls for open borders. Palestinians could live in... | many israeli right wing plans call for unilaterally annexing some or all of the west bank. declaring it part of israel then there are all kinds of two-state proposals one unconventional plan is a joint israeli-palestinian initiative called two states one homeland it calls for open borders palestinians could live in isr... | Many Israeli right wing plans call for unilaterally annexing some or, all of the West Bank declaring it part of Israel Then there are all kinds of. two-state proposals One unconventional, plan is a joint Israeli-Palestinian initiative called Two States One Homeland It calls for open borders Palestinians could live in I... | many israeli right wing plans call for unilaterally annexing some or all of the west bank, declaring it part of israel. then there are all kinds of two-state proposals. one unconventional plan is a joint israeli-palestinian initiative called two states one homeland. it calls for open borders. palestinians could live in... |
Israel and Palestine is the homeland that comes from the Jordan to the Mediterranean, the one and the same homeland of both people. Separation is disaster for both people. Separation won't exist. | israel and palestine is the homeland that. comes from, the jordan to the mediterranean the one and the same homeland of both people separation is disaster for both people separation won't | Israel and Palestine is the homeland that. comes from the Jordan to; the Mediterranean the one and the same homeland of both people Separation. is disaster for both. people Separation won't | israel and palestine is the homeland that comes from the jordan to the mediterranean, the one and the same homeland of both people. separation is disaster for both people. separation won't exist. |
The leader of Israel's center-left political party wants to delay all peace negotiations for a decade while improving Palestinian infrastructure. Another proposal would have two states with the West Bank and Gaza connected by a long tunnel running underneath Israel. On the Palestinian side, people have long sought an i... | the. leader of israel's center-left political party wants to delay all peace negotiations, for a decade while improving palestinian; infrastructure another proposal would have two states with the. west bank, and gaza, connected by a long tunnel running underneath israel on the palestinian, side people. have long sought... | The, leader, of Israel's center-left political party wants to delay all peace negotiations for a decade while improving, Palestinian infrastructure Another proposal would have. two states with the West. Bank and. Gaza connected by a long tunnel running underneath Israel On. the Palestinian side people have long sought ... | the leader of israel's center-left political party wants to delay all peace negotiations for a decade while improving palestinian infrastructure. another proposal would have two states with the west bank and gaza connected by a long tunnel running underneath israel. on the palestinian side, people have long sought an i... |
But now, more are talking about only one state, where Israelis and Palestinians have equal rights, a proposal that could end Israel's Jewish majority. Billboards have sprung up in the West Bank saying, if the choice is between one state and two states, I choose one state. I decided to run all these ideas by Palestinian... | but now more are talking about only one state where israelis and palestinians have equal, rights a proposal that could end israel's jewish majority billboards have sprung up, in the west bank saying if the choice is between one state and two states i choose one state i decided to run all these, ideas by palestinian pol... | But now more are talking about only one state where Israelis and Palestinians have equal rights, a proposal that could end Israel's Jewish majority, Billboards have. sprung up in the West Bank saying if the choice is between one state and two states I. choose one state I decided to; run all these ideas by Palestinian p... | but now, more are talking about only one state, where israelis and palestinians have equal rights, a proposal that could end israel's jewish majority. billboards have sprung up in the west bank saying, if the choice is between one state and two states, i choose one state. i decided to run all these ideas by palestinian... |
The issue is not walking into a restaurant and finding a menu of options of how to solve this conflict. | the issue. is not walking into a restaurant and finding a menu of options of how to solve this | The issue is not, walking into a restaurant and finding a menu of options of how to solve this | the issue is not walking into a restaurant and finding a menu of options of how to solve this conflict. |
The only option, he says, is the one the Palestinian Authority and the international community are committed to - creating a Palestinian state next to Israel. Then the two sides can get creative about how those two states work together. | the only. option he says is the one the, palestinian, authority and the international community are committed, to - creating a palestinian state next to israel then the two sides can get creative about how those two states work | The only option he says is the one the Palestinian Authority and the international community, are committed to - creating a, Palestinian state next to Israel Then the, two sides can, get creative, about how those two states work | the only option, he says, is the one the palestinian authority and the international community are committed to - creating a palestinian state next to israel. then the two sides can get creative about how those two states work together. |
And that's a priority to any kind of creativity that we can include, such as confederation or federation or parallel sovereignty. There's many flavors of what can happen once Palestinians gain statehood. | and that's a; priority to any kind. of creativity that. we can include such as confederation. or federation or parallel sovereignty there's many flavors of what. can happen once palestinians gain | And that's a priority to; any kind of creativity that we can include such as confederation or federation or parallel sovereignty There's. many flavors of what can happen once Palestinians gain | and that's a priority to any kind of creativity that we can include, such as confederation or federation or parallel sovereignty. there's many flavors of what can happen once palestinians gain statehood. |
One European diplomat, who didn't want to be identified, told me it was helpful to hear the alternative ideas presented at the peace plan event because they reinforced his belief that the two-state solution is still the most viable. Daniel Estrin, NPR News, Jerusalem. | one european diplomat who didn't want to be identified told me it was helpful to, hear the alternative ideas presented at the peace, plan event because they reinforced his belief that the two-state solution is still the most, viable daniel estrin npr news | One European diplomat who didn't want to be identified told me it was helpful. to hear the alternative ideas presented at the peace plan event because they reinforced his belief that the two-state. solution is still. the, most viable; Daniel Estrin NPR News | one european diplomat, who didn't want to be identified, told me it was helpful to hear the alternative ideas presented at the peace plan event because they reinforced his belief that the two-state solution is still the most viable. daniel estrin, npr news, jerusalem. |
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It's been 40 years since the US Congress passed the Voting Rights Act of 1965, making good on a section of the US Constitution that had long been denied to far too many people. The 15th Amendment had guaranteed black Americans the right to vote when it was ratified in 1870, but many counties throug... | it's been 40 years since the us congress passed the voting rights act of 1965, making. good on a section of the us constitution that had long been denied to far too many people the 15th amendment had guaranteed black americans the right to vote when it was. ratified in 1870, but many. counties thro... | It's been 40 years since the US Congress passed the Voting Rights Act of. 1965, making. good on a; section, of the US Constitution that had long been denied, to. far too many people The 15th Amendment had guaranteed black Americans the right to vote, when it was ratified in 1870, but many. counties... | it's been 40 years since the us congress passed the voting rights act of 1965, making good on a section of the us constitution that had long been denied to far too many people. the 15th amendment had guaranteed black americans the right to vote when it was ratified in 1870, but many counties throug... |
But young civil rights workers, black and white, helped bring about a revolution of faith in the idea that all Americans could and should vote. In the summer of 1965, Bruce Miroff joined hundreds of white northern college students in a voter registration campaign called SCOPE. He and other voluntee... | but young civil rights workers, black and white helped bring; about a revolution of faith in the idea that all americans could and should vote in the summer. of 1965, bruce miroff joined hundreds of white, northern college students in a voter registration campaign. called. scope, he and other volun... | But young civil rights workers black and white helped bring about a revolution of faith in the idea that all Americans could and should vote In the summer of 1965, Bruce Miroff joined. hundreds of white northern college students in a voter registration campaign called SCOPE He and other volunteers ... | but young civil rights workers, black and white, helped bring about a revolution of faith in the idea that all americans could and should vote. in the summer of 1965, bruce miroff joined hundreds of white northern college students in a voter registration campaign called scope. he and other voluntee... |
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When we first came to James Island and were going door-to-door, I remember a small child knocked on the door, saying, `Mom, it's the insurance man,' because the only white people they ever saw were insurance men collecting premiums. By the last week, we were working--we were so familiar to the commu... | when we first came, to james island. and were going door-to-door i remember a small child knocked on the door saying `mom it's the insurance man' because the only white people they ever saw were insurance men collecting premiums by the last week, we were working--we were so familiar to the community... | When we first came to James Island and were going door-to-door, I remember a small child knocked, on the door saying `Mom it's the insurance man' because the only white people they ever saw were insurance men collecting premiums By the last week we were working--we were so familiar to the community ... | when we first came to james island and were going door-to-door, i remember a small child knocked on the door, saying, `mom, it's the insurance man,' because the only white people they ever saw were insurance men collecting premiums. by the last week, we were working--we were so familiar to the commu... |
Unidentified Man #1: That would be extolling... | unidentified, man #1: that would be | Unidentified Man #1: That. would be. | unidentified man #1: that would be extolling... |
Yeah, maybe 20 people... | yeah maybe | Yeah maybe | yeah, maybe 20 people... |
Ms. MARION C. BENNETT(ph) (Former SCOPE Civil Rights Worker): My name is Marion C. Bennett. | ms marion c bennett(ph) (former scope civil rights worker): my name is marion c | Ms MARION C BENNETT(ph) (Former SCOPE Civil Rights Worker): My; name is Marion C | ms. marion c. bennett(ph) (former scope civil rights worker): my name is marion c. bennett. |
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Twenty-five years old apiece. And we installed them about a week and a half ago. They're happy there and they're moving around. It's really great. When you go into the exhibition proper, you will see Darwin's magnifying glass, just in this little room in one little case. And it's... | twenty-five years old apiece and we installed them about a week and a half ago they're happy there. and they're moving around it's really, great when you go into the exhibition proper you will see darwin's magnifying glass just in this; little, room in one little case and | Twenty-five years old apiece And we installed. them about a week and a half ago They're happy there and, they're moving around It's really great When; you. go into the exhibition, proper you will see Darwin's magnifying glass just in this little room in one little case And | twenty-five years old apiece. and we installed them about a week and a half ago. they're happy there and they're moving around. it's really great. when you go into the exhibition proper, you will see darwin's magnifying glass, just in this little room in one little case. and it's... |
The actual mag... | the actual. | The actual | the actual mag... |
The actual magnifying glass. | the actual magnifying | The actual magnifying | the actual magnifying glass. |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
Oh, we have tons of Darwin's actual material here. But this symbolizes this young man who set off with rather inadequate training, really, and didn't know too much, but he had an open mind and an open heart and he let nature come to him. And we want kids to come to the exhibit and see that it's st... | oh we have tons of darwin's actual material here but, this symbolizes this young man who set off with rather inadequate training. really and didn't know too much but he had an open mind and an open heart and he let nature come to him and we want kids to come to the exhibit, and see that it's still... | Oh we, have tons of Darwin's actual material here But this symbolizes this young man who. set off with rather inadequate training really and didn't know too much but he had an open mind and an open heart and he. let nature come to. him And we want kids to come to the exhibit and see that it's stil... | oh, we have tons of darwin's actual material here. but this symbolizes this young man who set off with rather inadequate training, really, and didn't know too much, but he had an open mind and an open heart and he let nature come to him. and we want kids to come to the exhibit and see that it's st... |
Right. | right. | ||
...and your eyes open, to--you can still discover things. | ...and your eyes open to--you can still, discover | ...and your eyes open to--you can still discover | ...and your eyes open, to--you can still discover things. |
So this is an interesting time to have this exhibit. Was this planned many years in advance or... | so this is an interesting time to have. this. exhibit was this planned many years in advance | So this is an interesting time to have this exhibit Was this planned many years in advance | so this is an interesting time to have this exhibit. was this planned many years in advance or... |
It's three years ago. | it's three years | It's three years. | it's three years ago. |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
We had an Albert Einstein exhibit... | we had an albert einstein | We had an Albert Einstein | we had an albert einstein exhibit... |
Right. | right. | ||
...which was very successful, and Darwin seemed like a natural follow-up because it actually fits our program very well. | ...which was very successful and. darwin seemed like a natural follow-up because it actually fits. our program very | ...which was, very successful and. Darwin, seemed like a natural follow-up, because it actually fits our program very | ...which was very successful, and darwin seemed like a natural follow-up because it actually fits our program very well. |
Mm-hmm. Tell us about Darwin before he went on the Beagle. Was he really a creationist, believed totally in the story of creation? | mm-hmm tell us about darwin before he went on. the beagle was he, really a creationist believed totally in the story of | Mm-hmm Tell us about Darwin before he went on the Beagle Was. he really a creationist believed totally in the story of, | mm-hmm. tell us about darwin before he went on the beagle. was he really a creationist, believed totally in the story of creation? |
Well, he--everybody was a creationist in those days. | well he--everybody was a creationist in, those | Well he--everybody was a creationist in those | well, he--everybody was a creationist in those days. |
Yeah, in those days. Right. | yeah in those days | Yeah in those days | yeah, in those days. right. |
His grandfather, interestingly enough, Erasmus Darwin, wrote a book called "Zoonomia." He was a physician. He actually speculated a little bit about evolution. But most people thought that the Earth was about 6,000, 10,000 years old, the species were created sometime after the Earth was formed, s... | his grandfather interestingly enough erasmus darwin wrote a book called "zoonomia" he was a physician he. actually speculated a little bit about evolution but most. people thought that the earth was about 6,000, 10,000 years old, the species were created sometime after the earth was formed separa... | His grandfather interestingly enough Erasmus, Darwin wrote a book called "Zoonomia" He was a physician. He actually speculated. a little bit about evolution But most people thought that the Earth was about 6,000, 10,000 years old the species were created sometime after the Earth was. formed, sepa... | his grandfather, interestingly enough, erasmus darwin, wrote a book called "zoonomia." he was a physician. he actually speculated a little bit about evolution. but most people thought that the earth was about 6,000, 10,000 years old, the species were created sometime after the earth was formed, s... |
Ed Larson, peo--other people in Darwin's time were talking about the idea that species may have evolved. They weren't all just put on Earth, as it is, by a creator. Were there other people around having some of those ideas then? | ed larson. peo--other people in darwin's time were talking about the idea that species may have evolved they weren't, all just put on earth as it is by a creator. were there other; people around having, some of those ideas | Ed Larson peo--other, people in Darwin's time were talking about the idea that species. may have evolved They weren't all just put. on Earth as it is by a creator Were there, other people around having some of, those ideas | ed larson, peo--other people in darwin's time were talking about the idea that species may have evolved. they weren't all just put on earth, as it is, by a creator. were there other people around having some of those ideas then? |
Sure. Darwin was born at a really dynamic time in the history of biology and the thinking about origins. Not too long before Darwin was born, in 1809, Lemarque in France, a really great, very imaginative, very creative biologist, had come up with a theory of evolutionary development. This fit into... | sure darwin was born at a really. dynamic time in the history of. biology and the thinking about, origins not too long, before darwin was born in 1809, lemarque in france a really great very, imaginative, very creative biologist had come up with a theory of evolutionary development this fit into a... | Sure Darwin was born at a; really dynamic time in the, history of biology and the thinking about origins Not too long before Darwin, was born in 1809, Lemarque in France, a really great very imaginative very creative biologist had come up with a theory of evolutionary development This fit into a w... | sure. darwin was born at a really dynamic time in the history of biology and the thinking about origins. not too long before darwin was born, in 1809, lemarque in france, a really great, very imaginative, very creative biologist, had come up with a theory of evolutionary development. this fit into... |
The other big development, really--two other really exciting developments is Georges Cuvier in Frances, the great anatomist, had burst the limits of time by proving to everyone, all scientists' satisfaction, that the Earth was very old. And so really, by 1810, all working scientists in Europe belie... | the other big development really--two other really exciting developments is georges cuvier, in frances the great anatomist had burst. the limits of time by proving to everyone all scientists' satisfaction. that. the earth was very old and so really by 1810, all working scientists. in europe believe... | The other big, development really--two other really. exciting developments is Georges Cuvier, in Frances the great anatomist had. burst the limits of time by proving to everyone all scientists' satisfaction that the, Earth was very old And so really. by 1810, all working scientists in Europe believ... | the other big development, really--two other really exciting developments is georges cuvier in frances, the great anatomist, had burst the limits of time by proving to everyone, all scientists' satisfaction, that the earth was very old. and so really, by 1810, all working scientists in europe belie... |
Charles Lyell, the great geologist, who came up with his ideas of uniformitarian geology, which more than anything else inspired Darwin. He took Lyell's first book with him on his voyage of the Beagle. And Lyell was also a creationist, but yet a different type: ones who believed that, over time, ... | charles lyell the great geologist who, came up with his ideas of uniformitarian geology which more than anything else inspired darwin he took lyell's first book. with him on his voyage of the beagle and. lyell was also a. creationist but, yet a different type: ones. who believed that over time di... | Charles Lyell the great geologist who came up with his ideas of, uniformitarian geology which more than anything, else inspired, Darwin He took Lyell's first book with him on his voyage of the Beagle And Lyell was also a creationist but yet a different type: ones who believed that over time diffe... | charles lyell, the great geologist, who came up with his ideas of uniformitarian geology, which more than anything else inspired darwin. he took lyell's first book with him on his voyage of the beagle. and lyell was also a creationist, but yet a different type: ones who believed that, over time, ... |
And what did he see there that changed his mind or convinced him that evolution was occurring? | and what did; he see. there that changed his mind or convinced him that evolution was | And what did he see there that changed his mind or convinced him that evolution was | and what did he see there that changed his mind or convinced him that evolution was occurring? |
Well, he actually didn't notice that at the time, but he made collections because, as Niles commented and as you commented, he went on not as really a trained naturalist--he only had an undergraduate education--he was sent as a collector, really, and he collected quite a few specimens from the Galap... | well he actually didn't notice that at the time but he made collections because as niles commented and as you commented he went on not as really, a trained; naturalist--he only had. an undergraduate education--he was sent as. a. collector really and he collected quite a few specimens from the galapa... | Well, he actually didn't notice that at the time but he made collections because as Niles. commented and as you commented he went on not as really a trained naturalist--he only had an, undergraduate education--he was sent as a. collector really and he collected quite a few specimens from the. Galapa... | well, he actually didn't notice that at the time, but he made collections because, as niles commented and as you commented, he went on not as really a trained naturalist--he only had an undergraduate education--he was sent as a collector, really, and he collected quite a few specimens from the galap... |
But if they were, then he simply couldn't believe that these had just been cre--that God would have created all these different similar species in basically the same archipelago. Rather, he thought, it must have been that a pair of mockingbirds and a pair of finches, or a few of each of the same ty... | but if they were then, he simply couldn't. believe that these had just been cre--that god would have created all these different similar species, in basically the same archipelago rather he thought it must have been that a pair of mockingbirds and a pair of finches or a few of each of the same type... | But if they were then he simply couldn't believe that these had just been cre--that God, would have created all these different similar, species in basically, the same archipelago Rather he thought it must have been that a; pair of mockingbirds and a pair of finches or a few of each of the same typ... | but if they were, then he simply couldn't believe that these had just been cre--that god would have created all these different similar species in basically the same archipelago. rather, he thought, it must have been that a pair of mockingbirds and a pair of finches, or a few of each of the same ty... |
All right. We have to take a break. We'll come back, talk more about Darwin and evolution. Stay with us. | all right we have to take a break we'll come back talk. more, about darwin and evolution stay with | All right We have to take a break We'll come back talk more about Darwin and, evolution Stay with | all right. we have to take a break. we'll come back, talk more about darwin and evolution. stay with us. |
I'm Ira Flatow. This is TALK OF THE NATION/SCIENCE FRIDAY from NPR News. | i'm ira flatow this is talk of the nation/science friday from npr | I'm Ira Flatow This is TALK. OF THE NATION/SCIENCE; FRIDAY from NPR | i'm ira flatow. this is talk of the nation/science friday from npr news. |
Yeah. Actually, Darwin had three clues that he stumbled on when he was on the Beagle. The first one was collecting fossils. Long before he got to the Galapagos, he found extinct forms of armadillos and sloths, and he knew that there were modern armadillos and sloths, of types of organisms that jus... | yeah actually darwin had three clues that he stumbled. on, when he was on the beagle the first one was collecting fossils, long before, he got to the galapagos he found, extinct forms of; armadillos, and sloths and he knew; that there were modern armadillos and. sloths of types of organisms that. ... | Yeah Actually Darwin had three clues that he stumbled on when he was on the Beagle The first one was collecting fossils Long before he. got to the Galapagos he found extinct forms of armadillos and sloths and. he knew that there were modern armadillos and sloths of types of. organisms. that just o... | yeah. actually, darwin had three clues that he stumbled on when he was on the beagle. the first one was collecting fossils. long before he got to the galapagos, he found extinct forms of armadillos and sloths, and he knew that there were modern armadillos and sloths, of types of organisms that jus... |
Another extremely important pattern he saw was the replacement--he made it a general replacement, but he actually only had one example. Two kinds of ostrich-looking things, rheas down there, the greater rhea and the lesser rhea. And they'd replace each other geographically. They'd meet in one pla... | another extremely important pattern he saw. was the replacement--he. made it a general replacement but he actually only had; one example two. kinds of ostrich-looking things rheas down there the greater rhea and; the lesser rhea and they'd replace each other geographically they'd meet in one plac... | Another extremely important pattern he saw was the. replacement--he made it a general. replacement but he actually only had one example Two kinds of ostrich-looking, things rheas down there the greater rhea and the lesser rhea And they'd replace each other. geographically They'd meet in one place... | another extremely important pattern he saw was the replacement--he made it a general replacement, but he actually only had one example. two kinds of ostrich-looking things, rheas down there, the greater rhea and the lesser rhea. and they'd replace each other geographically. they'd meet in one pla... |
Then he gets to the Galapagos and, you know, that story's basically right. He does notice the mockingbirds there. He actually does see that and he sees--he thought there were four varieties or species there, and he also then heard from the governor of the Galapagos that anybody who lives in the Ga... | then he gets to the galapagos and, you know, that story's basically right he does notice the mockingbirds there he actually does see that and he sees--he thought there were four varieties or species there and he. also then heard from, the governor of the galapagos that anybody who lives in, the ga... | Then he gets to the Galapagos and you know that story's, basically right He does notice the mockingbirds there He actually does see that and he sees--he thought there were four varieties or species there and he also then. heard from the governor of the Galapagos that anybody. who lives in the Gala... | then he gets to the galapagos and, you know, that story's basically right. he does notice the mockingbirds there. he actually does see that and he sees--he thought there were four varieties or species there, and he also then heard from the governor of the galapagos that anybody who lives in the ga... |
So that's right. We have that document in the exhibition, where he writes in his ornithological notes--he talks about the tortoises. He talks about the mockingbirds. And, indeed, that was still while he was on the Beagle. And basically, I'm convinced that he had--he was convinced that evolution ... | so that's right we have that document in the exhibition. where he writes in his ornithological notes--he talks, about the tortoises he talks about the mockingbirds and. indeed that was still while he was on the beagle and basically i'm convinced that he had--he was convinced that evolution, had ... | So that's right We have that document in the exhibition where he writes in his ornithological notes--he talks about the tortoises He, talks about the mockingbirds, And, indeed that was still while he was on the Beagle And basically I'm convinced that. he had--he was convinced that evolution had.... | so that's right. we have that document in the exhibition, where he writes in his ornithological notes--he talks about the tortoises. he talks about the mockingbirds. and, indeed, that was still while he was on the beagle. and basically, i'm convinced that he had--he was convinced that evolution ... |
Yeah, but he didn't write about it. He didn't publish it for a long time, did he? | yeah but he didn't write about it he didn't publish it for a long, time did | Yeah but he didn't write about it He didn't publish it for a long time did | yeah, but he didn't write about it. he didn't publish it for a long time, did he? |
Well, he didn't. No. He opened up a set of notebooks. | well he didn't no he opened up a set of | Well he didn't No He opened up a set of | well, he didn't. no. he opened up a set of notebooks. |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
The first one is the Red Notebook, which--we're still arguing whether he finished it--whether he actually wrote some of that stuff on the Beagle or after he got home to England. You open up his transmutation notebooks, and he got--instead of getting very--he was very sort of impressionistic when he... | the first one, is the red, notebook which--we're still arguing, whether, he finished it--whether he actually wrote some of that stuff on the beagle or after he got home to, england you open up his transmutation notebooks and he got--instead of getting very--he was very sort of impressionistic when ... | The, first one is the Red Notebook which--we're still arguing whether he finished it--whether he actually wrote some of, that stuff on the Beagle or after he got home, to England You open up his transmutation notebooks and he got--instead of getting very--he was very sort of impressionistic when he... | the first one is the red notebook, which--we're still arguing whether he finished it--whether he actually wrote some of that stuff on the beagle or after he got home to england. you open up his transmutation notebooks, and he got--instead of getting very--he was very sort of impressionistic when he... |
So Notebook B, page 36, he says, `I think'--and he draws the first evolutionary tree. It's very dramatic. It looks like E=MC squared; it's the same sort of a thing. And as he develops these notebooks from 1837 to '38 and '39, he reads Malthus and he stumbles on natural selection, so his ideas are... | so, notebook b page 36, he says `i, think'--and he draws the first evolutionary tree it's very dramatic it looks like e=mc squared it's, the same sort, of a thing and as he develops these notebooks from 1837 to '38 and. '39, he reads malthus and he stumbles. on natural selection so his ideas are ... | So Notebook B, page 36, he says `I think'--and he draws the first. evolutionary tree. It's. very dramatic It looks like E=MC squared it's the same sort of a thing And as he develops these, notebooks from 1837 to '38 and. '39, he reads Malthus and he stumbles on natural selection so his ideas are ... | so notebook b, page 36, he says, `i think'--and he draws the first evolutionary tree. it's very dramatic. it looks like e=mc squared; it's the same sort of a thing. and as he develops these notebooks from 1837 to '38 and '39, he reads malthus and he stumbles on natural selection, so his ideas are... |
Huh. And so is that because he's so fearful of what he's discovered, that this is going to... | huh and so is that because he's so fearful of what he's discovered that this; is going | Huh And so is that because he's so fearful of what he's discovered that this is going | huh. and so is that because he's so fearful of what he's discovered, that this is going to... |
Yeah. I mean, his wife was worried that the implications of his work were that they would not spend eternity together, basically, and she was quite upset that... | yeah. i, mean his wife was worried; that the implications of his work were, that they. would not spend eternity together basically and she was quite upset | Yeah I mean his wife. was worried that the implications; of his work were that they would not spend eternity. together basically and she was quite upset | yeah. i mean, his wife was worried that the implications of his work were that they would not spend eternity together, basically, and she was quite upset that... |
He would be damned. He would... | he would be damned he | He would. be damned He | he would be damned. he would... |
Yeah. We have a letter that she wrote to him, and he said at the bottom of the letter: `Note how many times I have kissed and cried over this,' because it really upset him. But yeah, he kept this very close because he was fearful of the reaction. When he finally told the botanist Joseph Hooker--... | yeah we have a letter that she wrote to him and he said at the. bottom of the letter: `note how many times i have kissed and cried over this' because it really upset him; but yeah he kept this very close because he was fearful of the reaction when he finally told, the botanist joseph hooker--we,... | Yeah We have a letter that she, wrote to him and. he said at the bottom of the, letter: `Note how many times I have kissed and cried over this' because it really upset. him But yeah. he, kept, this very, close because, he was fearful of the reaction, When, he finally told the botanist Joseph Hoo... | yeah. we have a letter that she wrote to him, and he said at the bottom of the letter: `note how many times i have kissed and cried over this,' because it really upset him. but yeah, he kept this very close because he was fearful of the reaction. when he finally told the botanist joseph hooker--... |
And it was, like you say, E=MC squared--such a radical idea, that everything could have a common origin. | and it was like you say e=mc squared--such a radical idea that everything could have a common | And it was like you say E=MC squared--such a radical idea that everything could have. a common | and it was, like you say, e=mc squared--such a radical idea, that everything could have a common origin. |
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