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It sold out. I think it was 1,200 copies were printed and it was sold out in the first day. | it sold out i think it was 1,200 copies were printed and it was sold out in the, first | It sold out I think it was 1,200 copies were printed and it was sold out, in the first | it sold out. i think it was 1,200 copies were printed and it was sold out in the first day. |
Wow. | wow. | ||
Couldn't keep up with the printing. It sold out that first day, as Niles said. Everybody was waiting for it because the idea had been thrown out a year before with those joint published papers by Wallace and Darwin. It was reviewed. It wasn't just reviewed in science journals. It was reviewed n... | couldn't keep up with the printing it sold out that, first day as niles said everybody was waiting for it, because the idea had been thrown out a year before, with those joint published papers by wallace and darwin it was reviewed it wasn't just reviewed in science, journals it was reviewed nex... | Couldn't keep up with the printing It sold out that first day. as Niles said Everybody was waiting for it because, the, idea had been. thrown out a year before with those joint published, papers by Wallace and Darwin It. was reviewed It wasn't just reviewed in science journals It was reviewed n... | couldn't keep up with the printing. it sold out that first day, as niles said. everybody was waiting for it because the idea had been thrown out a year before with those joint published papers by wallace and darwin. it was reviewed. it wasn't just reviewed in science journals. it was reviewed n... |
Well--yeah. Was there advanced buzz on it that it was coming? I mean, the publishers... | well--yeah was. there advanced buzz on it that it was coming? i mean the | Well--yeah Was there advanced buzz on it that it was coming? I mean the | well--yeah. was there advanced buzz on it that it was coming? i mean, the publishers... |
Certainly. People... | certainly | Certainly | certainly. people... |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
...because the basic idea had been sketched out in Wallace's beautifully written paper and also Darwin's old papers that were published by the Linnaeus Society of London a year before--that's when the idea was announced--so everybody knew it was coming, and Darwin then scrambled that year to pull to... | ...because the basic idea had been sketched out in wallace's beautifully written, paper and also, darwin's old papers that were published by the linnaeus society of london a year before--that's when the idea was announced--so everybody knew it was coming and darwin then scrambled. that. year to pull... | ...because the basic idea had been sketched out in Wallace's beautifully written paper and also, Darwin's old papers that were published. by, the Linnaeus Society of London. a year before--that's, when the idea was announced--so everybody knew it was coming and Darwin then scrambled that year to. pu... | ...because the basic idea had been sketched out in wallace's beautifully written paper and also darwin's old papers that were published by the linnaeus society of london a year before--that's when the idea was announced--so everybody knew it was coming, and darwin then scrambled that year to pull to... |
Now especially it was popular because evolution was such a titillating idea. It had been around, people had been debating it, and now here was coming a book that a already respected, leading member of society, sort of a culturally acceptable scientist, was putting it altogether, so people were waiti... | now especially it was popular because evolution was, such a titillating idea it had been around people, had been debating, it and now here was coming a book that a already; respected leading member of. society sort of a culturally acceptable scientist was putting it altogether so people, were waitin... | Now especially it was popular. because evolution was such a titillating idea. It had been around people had been debating it and now here was coming a book that a already respected leading, member; of society sort of a culturally, acceptable scientist was. putting it altogether so; people were waiti... | now especially it was popular because evolution was such a titillating idea. it had been around, people had been debating it, and now here was coming a book that a already respected, leading member of society, sort of a culturally acceptable scientist, was putting it altogether, so people were waiti... |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
...you could review it on the front page of The Times the next day. | ...you could review it on the, front page of the times the next. | ...you could review, it on. the front page of The Times the next | ...you could review it on the front page of the times the next day. |
Yeah. Well, we've run out of time. But I'd like to thank both of you for taking time to join me today. Edward Larson, professor of American history at the University of Georgia in Athens, author of "Evolution: The Remarkable History of a Scientific Theory." Niles Eldredge, paleontologist and cu... | yeah well, we've run out of time but i'd like to. thank both of you for taking time to join me today edward larson professor of, american history at the university, of georgia in athens author of "evolution: the remarkable, history of a scientific, theory" niles eldredge paleontologist and cura... | Yeah Well we've run out of. time But I'd like to thank both, of you for taking time to join me today Edward Larson professor of. American history at the University of Georgia in Athens author of "Evolution: The Remarkable. History of a Scientific Theory" Niles Eldredge paleontologist and curato... | yeah. well, we've run out of time. but i'd like to thank both of you for taking time to join me today. edward larson, professor of american history at the university of georgia in athens, author of "evolution: the remarkable history of a scientific theory." niles eldredge, paleontologist and cu... |
It's going to go to May 29th, then it goes to Boston, Chicago, Toronto, London in time for his birthday, then out to San Diego, so it's going to keep running. | it's going, to go to may 29th, then it. goes to boston chicago. toronto london in time for his birthday then out to san diego, so it's going to keep | It's going to go to May. 29th then it goes to Boston Chicago Toronto London in time for his birthday then out to San Diego so it's going to keep | it's going to go to may 29th, then it goes to boston, chicago, toronto, london in time for his birthday, then out to san diego, so it's going to keep running. |
Wow. Thank you for both taking time to be with us today. | wow thank you for both taking time to be with, us, | Wow Thank you for both taking time to be with us | wow. thank you for both taking time to be with us today. |
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Have a great weekend. We'll see you next week. I'm Ira Flatow in New York. | have a great. weekend we'll see you next week i'm ira flatow in new | Have a great weekend We'll see you next week I'm. Ira Flatow in New | have a great weekend. we'll see you next week. i'm ira flatow in new york. |
Earlier today officials in Syria reported that the minister of the interior, Ghazi Kenaan, committed suicide in his office. He was one of the most senior members of Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad's regime, which has recently come under increasing international scrutiny following the assassination... | earlier today, officials in syria reported that the minister of the interior ghazi kenaan committed suicide in his office he was, one of the most senior members of syrian president bashar al-assad's regime which has recently come under increasing international scrutiny, following the assassination ... | Earlier today officials in Syria reported that the minister of the. interior Ghazi Kenaan committed suicide in his office He was one of the. most senior members of Syrian. President Bashar Al-Assad's; regime which has recently come under increasing international scrutiny following the assassination... | earlier today officials in syria reported that the minister of the interior, ghazi kenaan, committed suicide in his office. he was one of the most senior members of syrian president bashar al-assad's regime, which has recently come under increasing international scrutiny following the assassination... |
Joining us now to talk about his death is Rami Khouri, editor at large for The Daily Star, a Lebanon-based newspaper, also an internationally syndicated columnist based in Beirut. He joins us now by phone in Salt Lake City, Utah. | joining us now to talk about his death is rami khouri editor at large for the daily star a lebanon-based newspaper also an internationally syndicated, columnist based in beirut, he joins us now by phone in salt lake city | Joining us now to talk. about his death is Rami Khouri; editor at large for. The Daily Star a Lebanon-based newspaper also an internationally syndicated columnist based in. Beirut He joins us now by phone in Salt Lake City | joining us now to talk about his death is rami khouri, editor at large for the daily star, a lebanon-based newspaper, also an internationally syndicated columnist based in beirut. he joins us now by phone in salt lake city, utah. |
And, Rami, nice to talk to you again. | and rami nice to, talk to you | And Rami nice to talk to you | and, rami, nice to talk to you again. |
Nice to be with you, thanks. | nice, to be with. you | Nice to be with you | nice to be with you, thanks. |
The official report is suicide. There will be people that will be skeptical of that. | the official report is suicide, there will. be people that will. be skeptical. of | The official report, is suicide There will be people that will, be skeptical of | the official report is suicide. there will be people that will be skeptical of that. |
Yes. I mean, there's general skepticism to almost anything that any Arab government says these days. And this is a problem that is generic throughout the region. But in this particular situation, the centrality of this fellow, Ghazi Kenaan, and his role in the security services has dom--his role ... | yes i mean there's general skepticism to almost anything that any arab government says these days and this is a, problem that is generic throughout the region but in this particular situation the centrality of this fellow ghazi kenaan and his. role in the security services. has dom--his role in r... | Yes. I mean there's general skepticism to almost anything that any Arab government says these days And, this is a, problem that is generic throughout the region But, in this particular situation the centrality of this. fellow Ghazi Kenaan and his role in. the security services has dom--his role i... | yes. i mean, there's general skepticism to almost anything that any arab government says these days. and this is a problem that is generic throughout the region. but in this particular situation, the centrality of this fellow, ghazi kenaan, and his role in the security services has dom--his role ... |
If the Syrian government was involved in the assassination of Rafik al-Hariri, was this man involved? | if the, syrian government. was involved in the assassination of rafik al-hariri was this man, | If the, Syrian government was involved in the assassination of Rafik al-Hariri was this man | if the syrian government was involved in the assassination of rafik al-hariri, was this man involved? |
Well, he worked with Hariri for many years and the Syrian security system in Lebanon was extremely in control of almost all aspects of Lebanese political and economic life. And Kenaan worked with Hariri for many years and much of the success of Lebanon's rebirth after the war is--part of that succe... | well he. worked, with hariri for many years and the syrian security system in lebanon; was extremely in control of almost all aspects of lebanese political and economic life, and kenaan. worked with hariri for many years and much of the success, of lebanon's, rebirth after the war is--part. of that... | Well. he worked with Hariri for many years and the Syrian security system in Lebanon was extremely in control of almost all aspects of Lebanese political and economic life And Kenaan worked with Hariri for many years and much of the success of Lebanon's rebirth after the war is--part of that succes... | well, he worked with hariri for many years and the syrian security system in lebanon was extremely in control of almost all aspects of lebanese political and economic life. and kenaan worked with hariri for many years and much of the success of lebanon's rebirth after the war is--part of that succe... |
Well, President Assad has said of course that Syria has had no role and of course if any Syrian official was involved, they were renegades and traitors. Might he have been preparing the ground for this suicide? | well president assad has said of, course that syria. has had no role. and of course if any syrian official was involved they were renegades and traitors might, he have been preparing the ground for this | Well President Assad has said of course that Syria has had no role and of course, if any Syrian official was involved they were renegades. and traitors Might he have been preparing the ground for this | well, president assad has said of course that syria has had no role and of course if any syrian official was involved, they were renegades and traitors. might he have been preparing the ground for this suicide? |
And thanks to DAY TO DAY's Madeleine Brand for that interview. | and thanks to day to day's madeleine brand for that | And thanks to DAY TO DAY's Madeleine Brand. for that | and thanks to day to day's madeleine brand for that interview. |
But that's really true. You have to trust science, and if the thing says turn here, go here, do this, your wings are doing this, you have to understand it and follow it. And one of the things that's always annoyed me, people always talk about the X, Y, Z, well, we've got to do the X, Y, Z. And you say what is X, Y, Z? ... | but, that's really true, you; have to trust science and if the thing says turn here go here do this your wings, are; doing this you have to understand it and follow it and one of the things that's always annoyed me people always talk about the x y z well we've, got to do the x y z and you. say what is x y z? oh i don't... | But that's really true You have to trust science and if, the thing says turn here go here do this your, wings are doing this you have to understand it. and follow it And one of the things that's always annoyed me people always talk about, the X Y Z well we've got to do the X Y Z And you say what is X Y Z? Oh I don't kn... | but that's really true. you have to trust science, and if the thing says turn here, go here, do this, your wings are doing this, you have to understand it and follow it. and one of the things that's always annoyed me, people always talk about the x, y, z, well, we've got to do the x, y, z. and you say what is x, y, z? ... |
People are afraid to ask and to let people understand that they don't know, and if you just said I don't understand it, you'll find that nobody else in the room understood it, either. You were the only one with the courage to stand up. | people are afraid, to ask and. to let people understand that they don't know and if you just said i don't understand it you'll find that nobody else; in the room understood it either you were the only one. with the courage. to stand | People are afraid to ask and to. let people understand that, they don't know and if you just said I don't understand it you'll find that. nobody else in. the room understood it either. You. were the only one with the courage to stand | people are afraid to ask and to let people understand that they don't know, and if you just said i don't understand it, you'll find that nobody else in the room understood it, either. you were the only one with the courage to stand up. |
But I've never had a problem in saying love to help you, but I don't know, explain it to me. | but i've never had a problem in saying. love to help you but; i don't know, explain it to | But I've, never had a problem in saying love to help you but I don't know explain it to | but i've never had a problem in saying love to help you, but i don't know, explain it to me. |
Yeah. You have found yourself defending science lately. Science has been under attack lately, has it not? | yeah you have. found yourself defending science lately science has been under attack, lately has it | Yeah You have found, yourself defending science lately Science has been under attack lately, has it | yeah. you have found yourself defending science lately. science has been under attack lately, has it not? |
Science has - sadly in this country, science is under attack. It's hard to understand people that don't believe in climate change. You may argue with the science of when something's happening or why or even whether it's happening, but to just dismiss it because you know it's not right, or you have a political agenda th... | science has - sadly in this country science is; under, attack it's hard to understand people that don't. believe in climate change you may argue with the science of when, something's happening or why or even whether it's happening; but to just dismiss it because you know it's not right or you have a, political agenda t... | Science has - sadly in this country science is under attack It's hard to understand people that don't believe in climate change You may argue with the science of when something's happening, or why or even whether it's happening but to just dismiss it, because you know; it's not right or you have a political agenda that... | science has - sadly in this country, science is under attack. it's hard to understand people that don't believe in climate change. you may argue with the science of when something's happening or why or even whether it's happening, but to just dismiss it because you know it's not right, or you have a political agenda th... |
And I think in this country, we're going unfortunately - while the rest of the world is focusing on teaching kids science and math and the skills for the new world, in parts of this country we're not teaching science anymore because the issue is intelligent design or creationalism or, you know, I mean, and even science... | and i think in this country we're. going, unfortunately - while the. rest of the world is focusing on teaching kids; science and; math and the skills for the new world in parts of this country we're, not teaching science anymore because the issue is intelligent design or creationalism or you know i, mean and even scien... | And, I think in this country we're going unfortunately - while the rest of the world is focusing on teaching, kids science and math and the skills for the new world in. parts of this country. we're not teaching science anymore because the issue is intelligent design or creationalism or you, know I mean and even science... | and i think in this country, we're going unfortunately - while the rest of the world is focusing on teaching kids science and math and the skills for the new world, in parts of this country we're not teaching science anymore because the issue is intelligent design or creationalism or, you know, i mean, and even science... |
Is that why your love for science, technology and engineering, is that why you're going to be building an applied sciences and engineering campus here in New York? | is that why your love for science technology and. engineering is that why. you're going to be; building an. applied sciences and engineering campus here in new | Is that, why your love, for science technology and engineering is that why you're going to be, building an applied sciences and engineering campus here in New | is that why your love for science, technology and engineering, is that why you're going to be building an applied sciences and engineering campus here in new york? |
Well, I'd like to think even if I didn't have an interest in science we'd do that. | well. i'd like to think even if i didn't have an interest in science we'd do | Well I'd like to think even if I didn't have an interest in. science we'd do | well, i'd like to think even if i didn't have an interest in science we'd do that. |
Tell us about the project. | tell us about the | Tell us about the | tell us about the project. |
We took a look at, when I came into office, at what New York City needed to prosper and to grow. And everybody said the same thing: We need a better educated workforce, and we need people educated in the businesses that we're going to grow and create jobs, and they tend to be technological in this day and age. | we. took a. look at when i came. into office at what, new york city needed to; prosper and, to grow and everybody said the same thing: we need a better educated workforce and we need people educated in the businesses that we're going to grow and create jobs and they tend to be technological in this day, and | We took a look at when I came into office at what New, York City needed to prosper and to grow And everybody said the, same thing: We, need, a better educated workforce and, we need people educated in the businesses that we're going to; grow and create jobs and they tend to be technological. in this day and | we took a look at, when i came into office, at what new york city needed to prosper and to grow. and everybody said the same thing: we need a better educated workforce, and we need people educated in the businesses that we're going to grow and create jobs, and they tend to be technological in this day and age. |
And then Bob Steele, one of my deputy mayors, and Seth Pinsky, who runs the economic development corporation, came up with this idea of us taking a piece of land, part of Roosevelt Island, the part that is just south of the Queensboro Bridge. There's an old hospital, we're moving the patients out. We've built a new hos... | and then bob, steele one of my, deputy mayors and seth pinsky who runs the economic. development corporation came up with this idea of us. taking, a piece of land. part of roosevelt island the part that is just south of the queensboro bridge there's an, old hospital we're moving the patients out we've built a new hospi... | And then Bob, Steele one of my deputy mayors, and Seth Pinsky who runs the economic development corporation came up with this idea of, us taking a piece of land part of Roosevelt Island the part that is just south, of the Queensboro Bridge There's an old hospital we're moving, the patients, out We've built a new hospit... | and then bob steele, one of my deputy mayors, and seth pinsky, who runs the economic development corporation, came up with this idea of us taking a piece of land, part of roosevelt island, the part that is just south of the queensboro bridge. there's an old hospital, we're moving the patients out. we've built a new hos... |
We were amazed at how many different universities wanted to participate in the competition. Cornell won it. They were the right ones to win it. They were so far better than anybody else in terms of coming up with a proposal that fit the needs of the city. Without even asking, they said, well, of course we're going to t... | we were amazed at how many different universities wanted to participate in the competition cornell won it they were the, right ones to win. it they were so far better; than, anybody else in terms of coming up. with a proposal that fit the needs of the city without even. asking they said well of course we're going to tr... | We were amazed. at how many different universities wanted to participate in the competition Cornell won it They were the right ones to win it They were so far better than anybody else in terms of coming up with a proposal, that fit the needs, of the, city Without even asking they said well of, course we're going to tra... | we were amazed at how many different universities wanted to participate in the competition. cornell won it. they were the right ones to win it. they were so far better than anybody else in terms of coming up with a proposal that fit the needs of the city. without even asking, they said, well, of course we're going to t... |
The competition had some schools that were big in the social media. So Cornell, to fill in that gap, created a - brought in the Technion Institute in Israel, which is a lot more IT kinds of stuff. And it's a real powerhouse combination. | the competition had some schools that were big in the social media so cornell to fill in that. gap created a - brought in the technion institute in israel which is a lot more. it kinds of stuff and it's a real powerhouse | The, competition had some schools that were big, in the social media So Cornell to fill in that, gap created; a - brought in the Technion Institute in Israel which is a lot more IT kinds of stuff And it's a real powerhouse | the competition had some schools that were big in the social media. so cornell, to fill in that gap, created a - brought in the technion institute in israel, which is a lot more it kinds of stuff. and it's a real powerhouse combination. |
But they won the competition. The city is giving them the land. We agree to put $100 million into infrastructure on the island, and they have to go out and raise a few billion dollars to build the campus. And there are steps by X number - this date, they've got to have this number of students and faculty and space buil... | but they won the competition the. city is giving them. the land, we agree, to put $100 million into infrastructure on the. island and they have to go out and raise a few billion dollars to build the campus and there are, steps by x number - this date they've, got to have, this number, of students and faculty and space ... | But they won the competition The, city, is. giving them the. land We agree to put $100 million into infrastructure, on the island and they have to go out and raise a few billion, dollars to build the campus And there are steps by X number. - this date, they've got to have this number of students, and faculty and. space... | but they won the competition. the city is giving them the land. we agree to put $100 million into infrastructure on the island, and they have to go out and raise a few billion dollars to build the campus. and there are steps by x number - this date, they've got to have this number of students and faculty and space buil... |
It's a graduate school. It's not an undergraduate school. But it's going to create an interest here and bring other schools here, and so we're going to be what Boston is, and we've already eclipsed them, and what Silicon Valley is, and we're catching up with them very rapidly. | it's; a graduate. school it's, not an undergraduate school but it's going to create an. interest here and bring other schools here and so we're going to be what, boston is and we've already eclipsed them and what silicon valley is and we're catching up with them very | It's a graduate school It's not an undergraduate school But, it's going to create an interest here and bring other schools. here and so we're going to be what Boston is and. we've already eclipsed; them and what Silicon Valley is and we're catching up with them very | it's a graduate school. it's not an undergraduate school. but it's going to create an interest here and bring other schools here, and so we're going to be what boston is, and we've already eclipsed them, and what silicon valley is, and we're catching up with them very rapidly. |
In the end, if you think about it, New York has something that no other city has. We are the intellectual capital of the country and arguably of the world. And that makes it a great place for people who want to broaden their horizons. You have to have great cultural institutions. You have to have other people in the sa... | in the end. if you think about it new york, has something, that; no other city has. we are the intellectual capital, of the country and arguably of the world and that makes it a great place for people who want to broaden their horizons you have to have great cultural institutions you have to have other people in the sa... | In the end, if you think about it New York has something. that no other city has We, are the intellectual capital of the country and, arguably of the world And that makes it a great place for people, who want to broaden their horizons You have to have great; cultural institutions You have to have, other people in the s... | in the end, if you think about it, new york has something that no other city has. we are the intellectual capital of the country and arguably of the world. and that makes it a great place for people who want to broaden their horizons. you have to have great cultural institutions. you have to have other people in the sa... |
Engineers like to change jobs frequently. So they don't want to go to work for a company that's in a place where they can't interview everybody else all the time. It's just part of that business. And New York City is the place where you get a chance to talk to people that can raise - give you money to raise, get the me... | engineers like to change jobs frequently so they don't want to go to, work for a company that's in a. place where they can't interview everybody else all the time it's just part of that, business and new york city is the place where you get a chance to talk to people that can raise - give you money to raise get the. me... | Engineers like to change jobs. frequently So, they don't want to go to work for a company that's in a; place where they can't interview everybody else all the time It's just part of that business And New York City is the place where you, get a. chance to talk to people that can raise - give you money to raise get the m... | engineers like to change jobs frequently. so they don't want to go to work for a company that's in a place where they can't interview everybody else all the time. it's just part of that business. and new york city is the place where you get a chance to talk to people that can raise - give you money to raise, get the me... |
And our big problem is having people that will, down the road for the next decades, be the engineers and the scientists that will attract other businesses here, they don't have to be doing it all. And this puts us on a map. | and our big problem is having people that will down the, road for the next decades be, the engineers, and. the scientists that will attract other businesses here they don't have to be doing it all and this puts us on, a | And our big problem is having people that will down, the road for the next decades be the. engineers and the scientists that will attract other businesses here they don't have, to be doing it all And this puts us on a | and our big problem is having people that will, down the road for the next decades, be the engineers and the scientists that will attract other businesses here, they don't have to be doing it all. and this puts us on a map. |
I was told at the very beginning, when we started this competition, that we will never be a big factor in education because Boston is the education city. I did point out to that person that New York City has more undergraduate and graduate students than Boston has people. | i was told at the very beginning when, we started this competition that we will never be a big factor in education. because boston is the education city i did point. out to that. person that new york city has more undergraduate and graduate students, than boston has | I was. told. at the very beginning when we started this competition; that we will never be a. big factor. in education because Boston is the education city I did point out to that person that New York City has more undergraduate and, graduate students than Boston. has | i was told at the very beginning, when we started this competition, that we will never be a big factor in education because boston is the education city. i did point out to that person that new york city has more undergraduate and graduate students than boston has people. |
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Now, the one thing Boston does have is one of the sports reporters wrote that this guy Jeremy Lin who plays for the New York Knicks, they say he came out of nowhere. Well, if Harvard University is nowheres, we should rethink education, but nevertheless. | now the one thing boston does have. is one of the sports reporters wrote that this guy jeremy lin who plays for the new york knicks they say, he came out of nowhere, well. if, harvard university, is; nowheres we should rethink education but | Now the one thing Boston does. have is one of the sports reporters wrote that. this guy, Jeremy Lin who plays for the New York Knicks they say he came out of nowhere Well, if. Harvard, University is nowheres we should rethink education but. | now, the one thing boston does have is one of the sports reporters wrote that this guy jeremy lin who plays for the new york knicks, they say he came out of nowhere. well, if harvard university is nowheres, we should rethink education, but nevertheless. |
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So you expect a lot of spin-offs to come out of this? | so you expect a lot of spin-offs to come out of | So you expect a lot of spin-offs to come out, of | so you expect a lot of spin-offs to come out of this? |
Yeah, people that, in graduate school they create businesses where they live partially because they're still finishing up their degrees while they start the business, or they're starting it with other people who are, and just the logistics are it's hard to move your business away from where you go to school. | yeah people that in graduate school, they create businesses, where they live partially because they're still finishing up their degrees while they start the business or they're starting it with other people, who are and just the logistics are it's hard to move your, business away from where you go to | Yeah people that in graduate school they create businesses where they live partially because they're still finishing up their degrees while they start the business or they're, starting it with other people who are and just the logistics are it's hard to, move your business away. from where you. go to | yeah, people that, in graduate school they create businesses where they live partially because they're still finishing up their degrees while they start the business, or they're starting it with other people who are, and just the logistics are it's hard to move your business away from where you go to school. |
That's why you see so many start-ups in Silicon Valley although it's interesting, if you look at Silicon Valley, a lot of people are moving to San Francisco. Why? Because Silicon Valley is very nice, and I love visiting there, it's great golf and bicycling, and it's wonderful, but it's not San Francisco, and San Franci... | that's why you. see so many start-ups in silicon valley although it's interesting if you look at silicon, valley a lot of people are moving to san francisco why? because, silicon valley is very nice, and, i love visiting there it's great golf and bicycling. and it's wonderful but it's, not san, francisco and san franci... | That's why you see so many start-ups in Silicon Valley although it's interesting if you look at Silicon Valley a lot of people are moving to. San Francisco Why? Because Silicon Valley is very nice and I. love visiting there it's great golf and bicycling, and it's. wonderful but it's not San Francisco and San Francisco'... | that's why you see so many start-ups in silicon valley although it's interesting, if you look at silicon valley, a lot of people are moving to san francisco. why? because silicon valley is very nice, and i love visiting there, it's great golf and bicycling, and it's wonderful, but it's not san francisco, and san franci... |
So if you want to do other things, it doesn't have it. It does have a great climate, and Stanford is one of the great universities in the world. But if you're going to have a business there, and you start saying, well, I'm going to raise my kids there, a lot of people want to move to bigger cities, and New York is alre... | so if you want to do other, things it doesn't have it it does have a great climate and stanford is. one. of. the great universities in the world but if you're going to have a business there and you start saying well i'm, going to raise my kids there a lot of people want to move. to bigger cities. and new york; is alrea... | So if you. want. to do other things it doesn't have it It does have a great climate and Stanford is one of the great universities in the world But if you're going to have a business there and you start saying well I'm going to raise my kids there a lot of people want to move to bigger cities and New York. is already | so if you want to do other things, it doesn't have it. it does have a great climate, and stanford is one of the great universities in the world. but if you're going to have a business there, and you start saying, well, i'm going to raise my kids there, a lot of people want to move to bigger cities, and new york is alre... |
I heard word, I don't know how true this was, I heard somebody mention just the other day that New York already has more IT professionals than people on Wall Street. Is that right? | i heard, word i don't know; how true this was i heard somebody mention just the other day that new york already has. more, it professionals than people on wall street is that | I heard word I don't, know how true this was I heard somebody mention just the other day that New York already has, more IT professionals than people on Wall Street. Is that | i heard word, i don't know how true this was, i heard somebody mention just the other day that new york already has more it professionals than people on wall street. is that right? |
That may very well - I don't know whether that's true, but it's getting there if it isn't. Google bought a whole square block building for 5,000 or 6,000 people. Bloomberg has close to 10,000 people in New York City now, of which half at least have to be engineers and computer science people. Facebook and Apple - I don... | that may very well. - i don't know whether that's true but it's getting there, if it isn't google bought a whole square block building for 5,000 or 6,000 people bloomberg has close to 10,000 people in new york city now of which, half at least have to. be engineers and computer science people facebook and apple, - i don... | That may very well - I; don't know. whether that's true; but it's, getting there if it isn't Google bought a whole square block building, for 5,000 or, 6,000 people Bloomberg has close to 10,000 people in New York, City, now of which half at least have to be engineers and computer science people Facebook and Apple - I ... | that may very well - i don't know whether that's true, but it's getting there if it isn't. google bought a whole square block building for 5,000 or 6,000 people. bloomberg has close to 10,000 people in new york city now, of which half at least have to be engineers and computer science people. facebook and apple - i don... |
If you want to grow corn, New York City is not the city for you. We don't have big, open spaces. If you want to make a million T-shirts, we're not the place for you, we don't have labor that's very low-price. If you want to build a steel mill, it's not in New York City. We wouldn't allow all the junk in the air and tha... | if you want to grow corn new york city is not the city, for you we don't have big open. spaces if you want to make, a million t-shirts we're not the place for you we don't have labor that's very low-price if you want to build a steel mill it's not in new; york city we, wouldn't, allow all, the junk in, the air and that... | If you want to grow corn New York City is not the city for you We don't have big. open spaces If you want to make a million T-shirts we're not the place for you we don't have labor that's very low-price If you want to build a steel mill it's not in New York City We wouldn't allow all the junk in the air; and that sort ... | if you want to grow corn, new york city is not the city for you. we don't have big, open spaces. if you want to make a million t-shirts, we're not the place for you, we don't have labor that's very low-price. if you want to build a steel mill, it's not in new york city. we wouldn't allow all the junk in the air and tha... |
But if intellectual capital is what your business is about, this is the center, and the mixture of New York, the diversity of New York really gives it a leg up. And I keep saying for these other cities, if you want to stop the hallowing out of your city, it is immigrants that will be your salvation. And sadly it seems ... | but if intellectual capital is what your business is about this is the center and the mixture of new york, the diversity. of new york really gives it; a leg up and i keep saying for, these other cities if you want to stop the hallowing out of your city it is immigrants that, will be your salvation and sadly it seems; a... | But if intellectual capital is, what your business is about this is. the center and the mixture of New York the diversity of New York really gives it a leg up And. I keep saying for these other cities if you want to stop the hallowing out of your. city it is immigrants that will be your salvation And sadly it seems all... | but if intellectual capital is what your business is about, this is the center, and the mixture of new york, the diversity of new york really gives it a leg up. and i keep saying for these other cities, if you want to stop the hallowing out of your city, it is immigrants that will be your salvation. and sadly it seems ... |
After the break, lots more on science in the city with my guest New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. So stay with us. | after; the break. lots, more on science in the city with my guest new york city mayor michael bloomberg so stay with, | After the break; lots more on science in the city with my guest New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg So stay with | after the break, lots more on science in the city with my guest new york city mayor michael bloomberg. so stay with us. |
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Welcome back. We're at the American Museum of Natural History in New York, talking about all things science and technology with my guest, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. We'll take a question if anybody wants to come up to the mic. We'll take a question or two from the audience, if you'd like to step up to the m... | welcome back we're at the american museum of, natural history in new york talking about all things science and technology with my guest new york city, mayor michael bloomberg we'll take a question if anybody wants to come. up to the mic we'll take a question or two from, the audience if. you'd like to step up to the | Welcome back, We're, at the American Museum of Natural History in New York talking about all things; science and technology with my, guest New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. We'll take a question if anybody wants to come up to the mic We'll, take a question or two from the audience if you'd like to step up to the | welcome back. we're at the american museum of natural history in new york, talking about all things science and technology with my guest, new york city mayor michael bloomberg. we'll take a question if anybody wants to come up to the mic. we'll take a question or two from the audience, if you'd like to step up to the m... |
You can see they're rushing. | you can see they're | You can see they're | you can see they're rushing. |
No, no, don't - get up to the mic. | no, no don't - get up to the | No no don't - get up to the | no, no, don't - get up to the mic. |
It's my cousin. I got him to do that. | it's my cousin i got him to do | It's my cousin I got him to do | it's my cousin. i got him to do that. |
While he's doing it, let me ask you this other question about global warming. I mean, you're in a city that's surrounded by water, and the coastlines of America are surrounded by water. How do you plan - and we know the oceans are going to rise. How do you plan so far in advance to transfer people, to build things to k... | while he's doing. it let me ask. you this, other question about global, warming i mean. you're in a city that's surrounded by. water and the coastlines. of america are surrounded by water how do you plan - and, we know the oceans, are going to rise how do you plan so far in advance to transfer people to build things to... | While he's doing. it let. me ask you this other question about global warming I mean you're in. a city that's surrounded by water and the. coastlines of. America are surrounded by water How do you plan - and we know the oceans are going to rise How do. you plan so far, in advance to transfer people to, build things to ... | while he's doing it, let me ask you this other question about global warming. i mean, you're in a city that's surrounded by water, and the coastlines of america are surrounded by water. how do you plan - and we know the oceans are going to rise. how do you plan so far in advance to transfer people, to build things to k... |
Well, part of it, you can't plan that far in advance. The political process, if you want to - if you really care about the environment, my suggestion is do not tie it to global warming because nobody believes or cares what's going to happen 50 years from now. You're all going to - I mean, it's like Congress saying we h... | well part of. it you. can't plan that far in advance the political process, if you want to - if, you really care about the environment my suggestion is do not tie it to global warming because nobody believes, or cares what's going to happen, 50 years from; now. you're all going to - i mean it's like congress saying we ... | Well, part of it you can't plan that far, in advance The political process if you want to - if; you really care about the environment my suggestion is do not tie it to global warming because nobody believes or cares what's, going to happen 50 years from now You're all going to - I mean it's like Congress, saying we hav... | well, part of it, you can't plan that far in advance. the political process, if you want to - if you really care about the environment, my suggestion is do not tie it to global warming because nobody believes or cares what's going to happen 50 years from now. you're all going to - i mean, it's like congress saying we h... |
But if you say, if you want to clean up the environment, you say the water you drink is killing you, the air you breathe is sending your kid to the hospital, the congestion right now is hurting your business, that resonates. And so people will do what you want. | but if you say if you want to clean up the environment you say the water you, drink is killing, you the air you breathe is sending. your kid to. the hospital the congestion right now is hurting your business, that resonates and so people will do what you | But if you say if you want to clean, up the environment you say the water you drink is. killing you the air you breathe. is sending your kid to. the hospital the congestion right now is hurting your business that resonates And so people will do, what you | but if you say, if you want to clean up the environment, you say the water you drink is killing you, the air you breathe is sending your kid to the hospital, the congestion right now is hurting your business, that resonates. and so people will do what you want. |
But you've got to bring things to the public in a short-term, me or my kids. | but you've got to, bring things, to the public in a short-term me or my | But you've got to bring things to the public in a short-term me or my | but you've got to bring things to the public in a short-term, me or my kids. |
But at some point, someone is going to have to - some mayor or governor is going to have to tackle that problem. | but at. some point someone is going to have to - some mayor or governor is. going to have to tackle that, | But at some point someone is going to have to - some mayor or governor is going to have to tackle that | but at some point, someone is going to have to - some mayor or governor is going to have to tackle that problem. |
Well, you know, maybe it won't rise as fast. Maybe we can figure out some ways to get carbon out of the - CO2 out of the air. But you can build up barriers. Look, you know, Amsterdam is below sea level, and yet they're surviving. You go there, you drive on the road, and... | well you know maybe it won't rise as fast maybe we can figure out some ways to get carbon. out, of the - co2 out of. the. air but you can build up barriers look you know amsterdam is below sea level and yet they're surviving, you go there you drive on the road | Well you know maybe it won't rise as fast Maybe we can figure out some ways to, get carbon out of the - CO2 out. of. the air But you can build up barriers Look you know Amsterdam is below sea level and yet they're surviving You go there. you drive on the, road | well, you know, maybe it won't rise as fast. maybe we can figure out some ways to get carbon out of the - co2 out of the air. but you can build up barriers. look, you know, amsterdam is below sea level, and yet they're surviving. you go there, you drive on the road, and... |
But it's expensive, and somebody has to think about paying for all that stuff. | but it's; expensive and somebody has, to think about paying for all, that | But it's expensive and somebody, has to think about paying for all that | but it's expensive, and somebody has to think about paying for all that stuff. |
Yeah, but you don't do it today. In all fairness, that's 50 years from now kind of thing. I would suggest when you buy a summer house - I had a summer house when I first came to New York from 1967, for I think it was 11 years, five guys, five-bedroom house. That house is now in the Azores, and the ocean's across the st... | yeah but you don't do it today in, all fairness that's 50 years from. now kind of thing i would suggest when you buy a. summer house - i had a summer house when i first came to new york from 1967, for i think it was 11 years five guys five-bedroom house that house is now in the azores and the ocean's across. the, stree... | Yeah, but you don't do it today In, all fairness that's 50 years from now kind of thing I would suggest when you buy a, summer house - I had a; summer house when I first came to New. York from 1967, for. I think it was 11 years five guys five-bedroom house; That. house is now in the Azores and the ocean's across the. s... | yeah, but you don't do it today. in all fairness, that's 50 years from now kind of thing. i would suggest when you buy a summer house - i had a summer house when i first came to new york from 1967, for i think it was 11 years, five guys, five-bedroom house. that house is now in the azores, and the ocean's across the st... |
All right, yes, sir. | all, right yes | All right yes | all right, yes, sir. |
Hi, Mayor Bloomberg. Ira's question actually segues into what I wanted to ask you. | hi mayor bloomberg ira's question, actually segues, into what i wanted, to ask | Hi Mayor Bloomberg Ira's question actually. segues, into what I wanted. to ask | hi, mayor bloomberg. ira's question actually segues into what i wanted to ask you. |
We didn't plan this. | we didn't plan | We didn't plan | we didn't plan this. |
My name is Orrin Barak(ph). I went to U.C. Berkeley and studied econ and environmental science. And I wanted to ask you, for the future of New York, reducing energy, reducing emissions: What do you think is going to be the best solution, tax incentives, regulation or businesses realizing that it's going to in the long ... | my name is, orrin barak(ph). i went to u.c berkeley and. studied econ and environmental science and i wanted to ask you for the future. of. new york reducing energy reducing emissions: what do you think is going to be the best, solution tax incentives regulation or, businesses realizing. that it's going to in the long ... | My name is Orrin; Barak(ph). I went to U.C Berkeley and studied econ and environmental science And, I wanted, to ask. you for. the future of New York reducing energy, reducing emissions: What do you think is going to be the best solution, tax incentives regulation or. businesses realizing that it's going to in the long... | my name is orrin barak(ph). i went to u.c. berkeley and studied econ and environmental science. and i wanted to ask you, for the future of new york, reducing energy, reducing emissions: what do you think is going to be the best solution, tax incentives, regulation or businesses realizing that it's going to in the long ... |
We passed laws that say you've got to get rid of number six oil, number four oil and go to number two oil, encourage people to go to natural gas in heating their buildings. New York City is different than other cities. In most cities, 80 percent of the greenhouse gases come from transportation, 20 percent from building... | we passed laws that say you've got to get rid of number six oil number four oil and go to; number two; oil encourage, people to go to natural gas in heating their buildings new york city is different than. other cities, in most cities 80 percent of the greenhouse gases come. from. transportation 20 percent from buildin... | We passed laws that say you've got to get rid of number six oil number four oil. and go to number two oil encourage people, to go to natural gas in heating their buildings New, York City is different than other cities In most cities 80 percent of the greenhouse gases come from transportation 20 percent from buildings I... | we passed laws that say you've got to get rid of number six oil, number four oil and go to number two oil, encourage people to go to natural gas in heating their buildings. new york city is different than other cities. in most cities, 80 percent of the greenhouse gases come from transportation, 20 percent from building... |
So it - and some of the transportation is getting a little bit better. So we focused on buildings. We've focused on power plants. My foundation, I gave $50 million to the Sierra Club to work on closing existing coal-fired plants throughout the country. | so it - and some of the transportation is getting a, little bit better so we focused on buildings we've focused on power plants my foundation i gave. $50 million, to the sierra club to work on closing existing coal-fired plants throughout the | So it - and some of the transportation is getting a little bit better So we, focused on buildings We've focused on power plants My foundation I gave $50 million to the Sierra Club to work on closing existing coal-fired plants throughout the | so it - and some of the transportation is getting a little bit better. so we focused on buildings. we've focused on power plants. my foundation, i gave $50 million to the sierra club to work on closing existing coal-fired plants throughout the country. |
The Sierra Club has done a very good job of stopping new coal-fired power plants. They can marshal people to man the barricades, protest, write letters, and they have been very successful, which is why we picked them to work on the existing ones. | the, sierra club has done a very good job of stopping new, coal-fired power plants they can marshal people to man the barricades protest, write letters and. they. have been very successful which is why we picked, them to work on the existing | The Sierra; Club has done a very good job of stopping new coal-fired power plants They can marshal people to man the barricades protest write letters and they have been very successful which is why we picked. them to work on the existing | the sierra club has done a very good job of stopping new coal-fired power plants. they can marshal people to man the barricades, protest, write letters, and they have been very successful, which is why we picked them to work on the existing ones. |
And part of the reason, as I understand it, that the BP deal fell through with this Russian, state-owned oil company, was there was a separate group of Russian investors who had made a deal on the side with BP? | and part of the reason as i understand it that the bp deal fell through with this russian state-owned oil company was there was a separate group of russian investors who had made a deal, on the side with | And part of the reason as I understand it that the BP deal fell through with this Russian state-owned oil company was there. was a separate group of Russian investors who, had made a deal on. the side with | and part of the reason, as i understand it, that the bp deal fell through with this russian, state-owned oil company, was there was a separate group of russian investors who had made a deal on the side with bp? |
And the good news is that at the moment, natural gas is so cheap that the economics, even when we start pressuring them a little bit, they don't fight that hard because converting to natural gas, which we have plenty of and look like we will have for a long time, is a better economic deal. | and. the good news is that at, the moment natural gas is so, cheap that the economics even when we start pressuring them a little, bit they don't fight that hard because, converting to natural gas which we have plenty of and look like we will have for, a long time is a. better economic | And the good news is, that, at. the moment natural gas is so cheap that the economics. even when we start pressuring them a little bit they don't fight that hard because converting to natural gas which we have plenty of. and look like we will have for a long time, is a better economic | and the good news is that at the moment, natural gas is so cheap that the economics, even when we start pressuring them a little bit, they don't fight that hard because converting to natural gas, which we have plenty of and look like we will have for a long time, is a better economic deal. |
Now, natural gas has its problems. It's not totally clean. But it's an awful lot better than coal. I think a third of the greenhouse gases in this country come from coal-fired plants. So - but you can do it with regulation. You can do it with economics. What I make the case for companies is you want to have your compan... | now natural gas has its problems it's not totally; clean but, it's an awful lot better than coal i think a third of the greenhouse gases in this country come from coal-fired. plants so - but you can do it with regulation you can do it with economics what i make the case for companies is you want to have your. company e... | Now natural gas; has its problems It's not, totally clean But it's an, awful lot better than coal I, think a third of the greenhouse gases; in this, country come from coal-fired plants So - but you can do it with regulation You can do it with economics What I make the case for, companies is you want to have your compan... | now, natural gas has its problems. it's not totally clean. but it's an awful lot better than coal. i think a third of the greenhouse gases in this country come from coal-fired plants. so - but you can do it with regulation. you can do it with economics. what i make the case for companies is you want to have your compan... |
When we go out and recruit young people, there's two pictures that we always give, which usually, I'm told - I don't get involved but I'm usually told it seals the deal. One, they say: Where else can you go to work for a company where 100 percent of the profits are going to charity? Because in my case, I can't spend it... | when we go, out and recruit, young people; there's two pictures that we. always give which usually i'm told - i don't get involved but i'm usually told it seals the deal one they say: where else can you, go to work for a company where 100 percent of the profits are going to charity? because in my, case i can't spend it... | When we go out and recruit, young people there's two pictures, that we always give which usually, I'm told - I don't, get involved. but, I'm usually told it seals the deal One they say: Where else can you go to work for a company where 100 percent of the. profits are going to charity? Because in my case I can't spend i... | when we go out and recruit young people, there's two pictures that we always give, which usually, i'm told - i don't get involved but i'm usually told it seals the deal. one, they say: where else can you go to work for a company where 100 percent of the profits are going to charity? because in my case, i can't spend it... |
And about a month ago, much - I didn't know we were doing it, but it turns out we have a big Princeton complex of a couple thousand people where we collect data, two or three big buildings, and we just rented some farmland that wasn't being used around it, put in solar panels, and we now generate 70 percent of our ener... | and about a, month. ago much - i didn't know we were doing it but it. turns out we have, a big princeton complex of a couple thousand. people where we collect data two or three big buildings and we, just rented some farmland that wasn't being used around it put in solar panels and we now generate 70 percent of our ener... | And about a month ago much - I, didn't know we were doing it but it turns out we. have a big Princeton complex of a couple thousand. people where we collect data two or three big buildings and we just rented some farmland that wasn't being used around it put in solar panels and we now generate 70 percent, of. our energ... | and about a month ago, much - i didn't know we were doing it, but it turns out we have a big princeton complex of a couple thousand people where we collect data, two or three big buildings, and we just rented some farmland that wasn't being used around it, put in solar panels, and we now generate 70 percent of our ener... |
Could we have more solar in New York and wind energy in New York? | could, we, have more solar in new york and, wind energy in new | Could we, have more solar in New York and wind energy in. New | could we have more solar in new york and wind energy in new york? |
Well, the wind is less dependable. The technology today, wind is better than solar. You need another breakthrough in solar, really, which a lot of companies are working on, and somebody will figure out how to make a less - a lot of pollution in making solar cells, but making it less polluting and making them much more... | well the, wind is less dependable the technology today wind is better than, solar you, need another breakthrough in solar really which a, lot of companies are working on and somebody will. figure out how; to make a. less - a lot of pollution in making solar cells but making it less polluting and making them much more | Well the wind is less dependable The technology today wind is better than, solar You need another breakthrough in solar really which a lot of companies are working on, and somebody will figure out how to make a, less - a, lot of pollution in making solar cells but making it less polluting and making them much more | well, the wind is less dependable. the technology today, wind is better than solar. you need another breakthrough in solar, really, which a lot of companies are working on, and somebody will figure out how to make a less - a lot of pollution in making solar cells, but making it less polluting and making them much more... |
At the moment, wind is a better deal. The trouble with wind is everybody can see the windmills, and there's some environmental issues, people are worried about birds, or Teddy Kennedy didn't want to see them on the horizon out of Hyannis Port, literally... | at the moment wind is a better deal the, trouble with wind is everybody can see the windmills and there's some environmental issues people. are worried about birds or teddy kennedy didn't want to see them on the horizon. out of hyannis port | At the moment wind is a better deal The. trouble with wind is everybody can see the windmills and there's, some environmental issues people are worried about birds or Teddy Kennedy didn't want to see them on the horizon out of, Hyannis Port | at the moment, wind is a better deal. the trouble with wind is everybody can see the windmills, and there's some environmental issues, people are worried about birds, or teddy kennedy didn't want to see them on the horizon out of hyannis port, literally... |
What about off the coast of New York and New Jersey? | what about off, the coast of new york and, new | What about off the. coast of New York and New | what about off the coast of new york and new jersey? |
Well, it off the coast of Cape Cod, and that's a very famous story. People wanted to do it, the money was there, that sort of thing, and Teddy Kennedy really did stop it in Congress because he thought it would pollute the view. | well it off the coast; of cape cod and that's a very famous story people wanted to do it the money was there that sort of thing and teddy kennedy really, did stop it in congress because he thought it would pollute the. | Well it off the coast of Cape Cod and that's a very famous story People wanted to do it the money was there that sort. of thing and, Teddy Kennedy really did. stop it in Congress because he, thought it would pollute the. | well, it off the coast of cape cod, and that's a very famous story. people wanted to do it, the money was there, that sort of thing, and teddy kennedy really did stop it in congress because he thought it would pollute the view. |
I've seen off the Netherlands some of their - they have some big solar farms. You have to have binoculars of super-strength to even see it on the horizon. And if we told you it was an art project, you'd say oh, isn't it wonderful, bring it closer. | i've seen off. the netherlands some of their. - they have some big solar, farms you have to have binoculars of super-strength. to even see it on the horizon and, if we told you it was an art project you'd say oh isn't it wonderful bring it | I've, seen off the Netherlands some of their - they have some big solar farms You have to have binoculars of super-strength to even see it on the. horizon And if we told you it was an art project you'd say oh isn't it wonderful bring it; | i've seen off the netherlands some of their - they have some big solar farms. you have to have binoculars of super-strength to even see it on the horizon. and if we told you it was an art project, you'd say oh, isn't it wonderful, bring it closer. |
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But I think the answer is you want to convince people that it is in their interest because in the end, everything else comes out of that. You want to pass laws that force them to make conversions that - or give tax incentives. And there are some of those things that work. | but i think the, answer is you want to convince people that it is in their interest because in the end everything else comes out of that you want to pass laws that force them to make conversions that - or give tax incentives and there are some of those things that | But. I think the answer is you want to convince people that it is in their. interest because in the end, everything else comes out of that, You want to pass laws that force them to make conversions that - or give. tax incentives. And there. are some of those things. that | but i think the answer is you want to convince people that it is in their interest because in the end, everything else comes out of that. you want to pass laws that force them to make conversions that - or give tax incentives. and there are some of those things that work. |
The problem we have is that when we give you tax incentive, then people say oh, they're getting too good a deal on their taxes. And, you know, it's like this craziness with Buffett and his secretary. We have - we tax capital gains at a lower rate to encourage people to invest. The good news is that's exactly what Buffe... | the problem we have is that when we give you tax incentive then people say oh they're. getting too good. a deal on their taxes. and, you know it's like. this craziness with buffett and his secretary we have - we tax capital. gains at a, lower rate to encourage; people to invest the good news is that's exactly what. buf... | The problem we have is that when we give you tax incentive then people say oh they're. getting too good a deal, on their taxes And you know it's like this craziness with Buffett and his secretary We have - we tax capital gains at, a lower rate to encourage people, to invest The good news is that's exactly what, Buffett... | the problem we have is that when we give you tax incentive, then people say oh, they're getting too good a deal on their taxes. and, you know, it's like this craziness with buffett and his secretary. we have - we tax capital gains at a lower rate to encourage people to invest. the good news is that's exactly what buffe... |
The issue is not does he pay fewer - less taxes percentage-wise than his secretary. The issue is: Should we or should we not encourage people to invest with capital gains taxes lower than ordinary? Take your pick. It's not an issue of him versus his secretary, it's an issue of what is in the national interest. | the issue is not does he pay fewer - less taxes percentage-wise than his secretary the issue is: should we, or should we not encourage people to invest with capital gains taxes lower than ordinary? take your pick it's not an issue of. him versus his secretary it's an issue of what is in the national | The issue is not does, he pay fewer - less taxes percentage-wise than his secretary The, issue is: Should we or, should we not encourage people; to invest with capital gains taxes. lower than ordinary? Take. your pick It's not an issue of him versus his secretary it's an. issue. of what is. in the national, | the issue is not does he pay fewer - less taxes percentage-wise than his secretary. the issue is: should we or should we not encourage people to invest with capital gains taxes lower than ordinary? take your pick. it's not an issue of him versus his secretary, it's an issue of what is in the national interest. |
And a lot of the populism in our tax policy right now doesn't - begs the fact that those tax policies were put in generally to encourage or discourage various types of economic activity, and so you should go back and see do you want - do you encourage people to drill or not to drill, to mine or not to mine, to build ho... | and a lot of, the populism in our tax policy right now doesn't - begs the fact. that those tax policies, were put in generally to encourage or discourage various types of economic activity and. so you should go back and see do you want, - do you, encourage people to. drill or not to drill to mine or not to mine to buil... | And a lot of the populism, in our tax policy right, now, doesn't - begs. the fact that those tax policies were put in. generally to encourage or discourage various types of economic activity. and. so you should. go back and see do you want - do you encourage people to drill or not to drill to. mine, or not to mine to b... | and a lot of the populism in our tax policy right now doesn't - begs the fact that those tax policies were put in generally to encourage or discourage various types of economic activity, and so you should go back and see do you want - do you encourage people to drill or not to drill, to mine or not to mine, to build ho... |
Mayor Bloomberg, we've run out of time. I want to thank you for taking time to be with us today. | mayor bloomberg we've run out of time i. want to thank you for taking time to be with us | Mayor Bloomberg we've run out of time. I want to thank you for taking time to, be with us | mayor bloomberg, we've run out of time. i want to thank you for taking time to be with us today. |
Happy to have it, all the best. | happy to have it all the, | Happy to have it all the | happy to have it, all the best. |
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Full interview with New York City Mayor Bloomberg is available on a podcast, or you can download it from our website at sciencefriday.com. | full interview with new york city mayor bloomberg is available on a podcast or you; can download, it from our website at. | Full interview with New York City Mayor Bloomberg is available on a podcast or you can download it from our website at | full interview with new york city mayor bloomberg is available on a podcast, or you can download it from our website at sciencefriday.com. |
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