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That, that's correct.
agent: Right customer: ... "and think we'd have more money," but you don't. You're twice as broke. agent: Right. It's interesting 'cause you did have this deep experience as an accountant, but as we will see, you know, for a variety of reasons, you felt like you had to make decisions that would, over time, chip away at...
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And you made deals that weren't necessarily i- in- in your favor like Basically giving half of the business away for a, a line of credit.
customer: ... "and think we'd have more money," but you don't. You're twice as broke. agent: Right. It's interesting 'cause you did have this deep experience as an accountant, but as we will see, you know, for a variety of reasons, you felt like you had to make decisions that would, over time, chip away at your control...
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Yes. I was always trying to get financing from someone who had cash. It wasn't like a, a well-thought-out, you know, business plan or anything. And always in September, October, where I had these humongous orders to fill and no product. So, so I was in the worst negotiating position of all time, and this happened two o...
agent: Right. It's interesting 'cause you did have this deep experience as an accountant, but as we will see, you know, for a variety of reasons, you felt like you had to make decisions that would, over time, chip away at your control of the business. customer: That, that's correct. agent: And you made deals that weren...
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Hmm
customer: That, that's correct. agent: And you made deals that weren't necessarily i- in- in your favor like Basically giving half of the business away for a, a line of credit. customer: Yes. I was always trying to get financing from someone who had cash. It wasn't like a, a well-thought-out, you know, business plan or...
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... where the old investors didn't have the money to buy the new product, so I had to do a deal to get them out and bring in bigger investors and, and that, that was a really horrible cycle.
agent: And you made deals that weren't necessarily i- in- in your favor like Basically giving half of the business away for a, a line of credit. customer: Yes. I was always trying to get financing from someone who had cash. It wasn't like a, a well-thought-out, you know, business plan or anything. And always in Septemb...
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Okay, so you now have a partner, essentially, maybe a silent partner-
customer: Yes. I was always trying to get financing from someone who had cash. It wasn't like a, a well-thought-out, you know, business plan or anything. And always in September, October, where I had these humongous orders to fill and no product. So, so I was in the worst negotiating position of all time, and this happ...
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Yeah
agent: Hmm customer: ... where the old investors didn't have the money to buy the new product, so I had to do a deal to get them out and bring in bigger investors and, and that, that was a really horrible cycle. agent: Okay, so you now have a partner, essentially, maybe a silent partner-
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... this guy John, who's giving you a line of credit.
customer: ... where the old investors didn't have the money to buy the new product, so I had to do a deal to get them out and bring in bigger investors and, and that, that was a really horrible cycle. agent: Okay, so you now have a partner, essentially, maybe a silent partner- customer: Yeah
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Yes.
agent: Okay, so you now have a partner, essentially, maybe a silent partner- customer: Yeah agent: ... this guy John, who's giving you a line of credit.
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Um, meantime, you are, um, y- you still have this kind of, like, potential lawsuit hanging over you, and I guess you, y- you deci- you start to think, "Well, who wants to deal with this? Maybe I'll just change the name," and you thought about changing the name of UGGs.
customer: Yeah agent: ... this guy John, who's giving you a line of credit. customer: Yes.
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I did. I, I came up with the name Jackaroo, which is like a cowboy, um-
agent: ... this guy John, who's giving you a line of credit. customer: Yes. agent: Um, meantime, you are, um, y- you still have this kind of, like, potential lawsuit hanging over you, and I guess you, y- you deci- you start to think, "Well, who wants to deal with this? Maybe I'll just change the name," and you thought ...
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It is a ca- it is an Australian cowboy.
customer: Yes. agent: Um, meantime, you are, um, y- you still have this kind of, like, potential lawsuit hanging over you, and I guess you, y- you deci- you start to think, "Well, who wants to deal with this? Maybe I'll just change the name," and you thought about changing the name of UGGs. customer: I did. I, I came u...
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A Australian cowboy, jackaroo.
agent: Um, meantime, you are, um, y- you still have this kind of, like, potential lawsuit hanging over you, and I guess you, y- you deci- you start to think, "Well, who wants to deal with this? Maybe I'll just change the name," and you thought about changing the name of UGGs. customer: I did. I, I came up with the name...
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I see. Okay.
customer: I did. I, I came up with the name Jackaroo, which is like a cowboy, um- agent: It is a ca- it is an Australian cowboy. customer: A Australian cowboy, jackaroo.
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And Ji- Jillaroo is the-
agent: It is a ca- it is an Australian cowboy. customer: A Australian cowboy, jackaroo. agent: I see. Okay.
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[laughs]
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... uh, the female version. And, uh, had these young kids that, you know, I knew their parents, and they were riding for the UGG Surf Team. They, they, they had UGG logos on their surfboards. Uh, like, all the surf- all the brands had surf teams.
agent: I see. Okay. customer: And Ji- Jillaroo is the- agent: [laughs]
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Okay.
customer: And Ji- Jillaroo is the- agent: [laughs] customer: ... uh, the female version. And, uh, had these young kids that, you know, I knew their parents, and they were riding for the UGG Surf Team. They, they, they had UGG logos on their surfboards. Uh, like, all the surf- all the brands had surf teams.
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And so they wanted to be on the UGG Surf Team.
agent: [laughs] customer: ... uh, the female version. And, uh, had these young kids that, you know, I knew their parents, and they were riding for the UGG Surf Team. They, they, they had UGG logos on their surfboards. Uh, like, all the surf- all the brands had surf teams. agent: Okay.
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You sponsored a surf team?
customer: ... uh, the female version. And, uh, had these young kids that, you know, I knew their parents, and they were riding for the UGG Surf Team. They, they, they had UGG logos on their surfboards. Uh, like, all the surf- all the brands had surf teams. agent: Okay. customer: And so they wanted to be on the UGG Surf...
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Yeah, but only with logos and, and, and-
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Okay, I gotcha
customer: And so they wanted to be on the UGG Surf Team. agent: You sponsored a surf team? customer: Yeah, but only with logos and, and, and-
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... and product and stuff like that. I didn't really have any money.
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Right.
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And I went to them and I said, "Hey, listen, guys. We, we, you know, I'm, I'm gonna have to give up the UGG name, and, uh, we're gonna call 'em Jackaroos, so you'll be riding for Jackaroos." And they went, "No way, we're never... That's a dumb name. We're never..." You know, and I realized how passionate they were abou...
agent: Okay, I gotcha customer: ... and product and stuff like that. I didn't really have any money. agent: Right.
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When we come back in just a moment, how Brian's trademark fight is just the beginning of the struggles that put UGG and his ownership of it at risk. Stay with us. I'm Guy Raz, and you're listening to How I Built This. When it comes to your health and wellbeing, the right care can change everything. That's why Cleveland...
customer: ... and product and stuff like that. I didn't really have any money. agent: Right. customer: And I went to them and I said, "Hey, listen, guys. We, we, you know, I'm, I'm gonna have to give up the UGG name, and, uh, we're gonna call 'em Jackaroos, so you'll be riding for Jackaroos." And they went, "No way, we...
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He was one of the founders of the Ski Industry Association, you know, what, what became this humongous trade show in Las Vegas. And he came on as a sales rep for me in the ski industry. He- I wasn't looking for a sales rep, but he came and convinced me that the ski market was a totally different market to the surf mark...
agent: Right. customer: And I went to them and I said, "Hey, listen, guys. We, we, you know, I'm, I'm gonna have to give up the UGG name, and, uh, we're gonna call 'em Jackaroos, so you'll be riding for Jackaroos." And they went, "No way, we're never... That's a dumb name. We're never..." You know, and I realized how p...
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he came and convinced me that the ski market was a totally different market to the surf market
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Got it. Okay. 1984, record year, right? But not, not yet profitable.
customer: And I went to them and I said, "Hey, listen, guys. We, we, you know, I'm, I'm gonna have to give up the UGG name, and, uh, we're gonna call 'em Jackaroos, so you'll be riding for Jackaroos." And they went, "No way, we're never... That's a dumb name. We're never..." You know, and I realized how passionate they...
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Right.
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You had still had losses, and you have this line of credit-
customer: He was one of the founders of the Ski Industry Association, you know, what, what became this humongous trade show in Las Vegas. And he came on as a sales rep for me in the ski industry. He- I wasn't looking for a sales rep, but he came and convinced me that the ski market was a totally different market to the...
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Yes
agent: Got it. Okay. 1984, record year, right? But not, not yet profitable. customer: Right. agent: You had still had losses, and you have this line of credit-
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... still kind of growing and, but challenging. And from what I understand, that year, you, uh... And I should mention, you were, you had been recently married. You met, uh-
customer: Right. agent: You had still had losses, and you have this line of credit- customer: Yes
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Right
agent: You had still had losses, and you have this line of credit- customer: Yes agent: ... still kind of growing and, but challenging. And from what I understand, that year, you, uh... And I should mention, you were, you had been recently married. You met, uh-
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... Laura, who became-
customer: Yes agent: ... still kind of growing and, but challenging. And from what I understand, that year, you, uh... And I should mention, you were, you had been recently married. You met, uh- customer: Right
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Yep
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... your wife.
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Yep.
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And, um, you said to her, "Hey, I gotta abandon this thing. This is not gonna work." You realize or decide that you see no future in UGGs.
customer: Yep agent: ... your wife. customer: Yep.
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Yeah. That partner investor that gave me the line of credit, he was used to finding an idea and doubling his money overnight. That's why he had the computer business that nobody else ever saw, you know-
agent: ... your wife. customer: Yep. agent: And, um, you said to her, "Hey, I gotta abandon this thing. This is not gonna work." You realize or decide that you see no future in UGGs.
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That partner investor that gave me the line of credit
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Right
customer: Yep. agent: And, um, you said to her, "Hey, I gotta abandon this thing. This is not gonna work." You realize or decide that you see no future in UGGs. customer: Yeah. That partner investor that gave me the line of credit, he was used to finding an idea and doubling his money overnight. That's why he had the c...
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... stripping out the gold. And he wanted to double his money, but, you know, he had no concept of advertising, cost of samples, cost of the, of communicating with the sales force.
agent: And, um, you said to her, "Hey, I gotta abandon this thing. This is not gonna work." You realize or decide that you see no future in UGGs. customer: Yeah. That partner investor that gave me the line of credit, he was used to finding an idea and doubling his money overnight. That's why he had the computer busines...
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Right. And you're getting stressed out and, and you're thinking, "I don't need this."
customer: Yeah. That partner investor that gave me the line of credit, he was used to finding an idea and doubling his money overnight. That's why he had the computer business that nobody else ever saw, you know- agent: Right customer: ... stripping out the gold. And he wanted to double his money, but, you know, he had...
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Yeah. Yeah. And he, he just wanted his money out. And I do remember the, the, there was a period when he was look, putting intense pressure on me. And I, I remember I was at home one night with my wife, Laura, and we were watching TV. I was lying on my back on the floor, and the show finished. I clicked the TV off, and...
agent: Right customer: ... stripping out the gold. And he wanted to double his money, but, you know, he had no concept of advertising, cost of samples, cost of the, of communicating with the sales force. agent: Right. And you're getting stressed out and, and you're thinking, "I don't need this."
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Laura, who is a really quiet person, she just looked at me and said, 'You get up now and walk to bed like a man.'
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[chuckles]
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And she, she sort of shocked me. And as I stood up, I just, I was, like, coming out of a fog. It was like, "Oh my God, there's so much more to life than this crappy little sheepskin company." And that night I started, you know, "How, how can I get out of this?"
agent: Right. And you're getting stressed out and, and you're thinking, "I don't need this." customer: Yeah. Yeah. And he, he just wanted his money out. And I do remember the, the, there was a period when he was look, putting intense pressure on me. And I, I remember I was at home one night with my wife, Laura, and we ...
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And she, she sort of shocked me
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Hmm.
customer: Yeah. Yeah. And he, he just wanted his money out. And I do remember the, the, there was a period when he was look, putting intense pressure on me. And I, I remember I was at home one night with my wife, Laura, and we were watching TV. I was lying on my back on the floor, and the show finished. I clicked the T...
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You know? I, I literally wanted to just get out.
agent: [chuckles] customer: And she, she sort of shocked me. And as I stood up, I just, I was, like, coming out of a fog. It was like, "Oh my God, there's so much more to life than this crappy little sheepskin company." And that night I started, you know, "How, how can I get out of this?" agent: Hmm.
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Yeah. I mean, I can understand 'cause you were feeling a, a bunch of pressure. And, uh, I mean, now you are almost 40, right?
customer: And she, she sort of shocked me. And as I stood up, I just, I was, like, coming out of a fog. It was like, "Oh my God, there's so much more to life than this crappy little sheepskin company." And that night I started, you know, "How, how can I get out of this?" agent: Hmm. customer: You know? I, I literally w...
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Yes.
agent: Hmm. customer: You know? I, I literally wanted to just get out. agent: Yeah. I mean, I can understand 'cause you were feeling a, a bunch of pressure. And, uh, I mean, now you are almost 40, right?
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And probably still struggling, really struggling financially.
customer: You know? I, I literally wanted to just get out. agent: Yeah. I mean, I can understand 'cause you were feeling a, a bunch of pressure. And, uh, I mean, now you are almost 40, right? customer: Yes.
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But very... Like, like, yeah, Laura was working for an architect, and she was paying the bills at the time. Yeah.
agent: Yeah. I mean, I can understand 'cause you were feeling a, a bunch of pressure. And, uh, I mean, now you are almost 40, right? customer: Yes. agent: And probably still struggling, really struggling financially.
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So all right. So there's a lot of pressure, and this guy wants his money back, or he may wanna get out-
customer: Yes. agent: And probably still struggling, really struggling financially. customer: But very... Like, like, yeah, Laura was working for an architect, and she was paying the bills at the time. Yeah.
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Yeah
agent: And probably still struggling, really struggling financially. customer: But very... Like, like, yeah, Laura was working for an architect, and she was paying the bills at the time. Yeah. agent: So all right. So there's a lot of pressure, and this guy wants his money back, or he may wanna get out-
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... of the business, and you wanna just throw your hands up and walk away.
customer: But very... Like, like, yeah, Laura was working for an architect, and she was paying the bills at the time. Yeah. agent: So all right. So there's a lot of pressure, and this guy wants his money back, or he may wanna get out- customer: Yeah
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Yeah.
agent: So all right. So there's a lot of pressure, and this guy wants his money back, or he may wanna get out- customer: Yeah agent: ... of the business, and you wanna just throw your hands up and walk away.
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Um, and but like will happen again and again in this story, some intervention, call it divine-
customer: Yeah agent: ... of the business, and you wanna just throw your hands up and walk away. customer: Yeah.
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[laughs]
agent: ... of the business, and you wanna just throw your hands up and walk away. customer: Yeah. agent: Um, and but like will happen again and again in this story, some intervention, call it divine-
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... whatever you want. Uh, you call up this guy, Paul Bussmann, and say-
customer: Yeah. agent: Um, and but like will happen again and again in this story, some intervention, call it divine- customer: [laughs]
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Yes
agent: Um, and but like will happen again and again in this story, some intervention, call it divine- customer: [laughs] agent: ... whatever you want. Uh, you call up this guy, Paul Bussmann, and say-
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... "Hey, I wanna get out of this thing." He says, "Well, uh, I know somebody who could potentially help you. Uh, his name is Neil Fearing." Fearing-
customer: [laughs] agent: ... whatever you want. Uh, you call up this guy, Paul Bussmann, and say- customer: Yes
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That's correct
agent: ... whatever you want. Uh, you call up this guy, Paul Bussmann, and say- customer: Yes agent: ... "Hey, I wanna get out of this thing." He says, "Well, uh, I know somebody who could potentially help you. Uh, his name is Neil Fearing." Fearing-
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... I think that's his name. And he is a... What? Who is he? Is he, like, a wealthy investor?
customer: Yes agent: ... "Hey, I wanna get out of this thing." He says, "Well, uh, I know somebody who could potentially help you. Uh, his name is Neil Fearing." Fearing- customer: That's correct
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His business was Yamaha Motorcycles, and he was a distributor for them, but he was also a, uh, opportunist. And, and if he saw good deals in the marketplace, especially in the ski industry, he would buy a whole bunch of closeouts and figure out a way to make money out of it. So, so that was who Paul Bussmann introduced...
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Paul Bussmann introduced me to
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Right.
customer: That's correct agent: ... I think that's his name. And he is a... What? Who is he? Is he, like, a wealthy investor? customer: His business was Yamaha Motorcycles, and he was a distributor for them, but he was also a, uh, opportunist. And, and if he saw good deals in the marketplace, especially in the ski indu...
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And Neil came down and looked at our operation and, and said, "Shit, I, you know, I could do this." But, you know, then we had to sit down and try and figure out how we were gonna do it.
agent: ... I think that's his name. And he is a... What? Who is he? Is he, like, a wealthy investor? customer: His business was Yamaha Motorcycles, and he was a distributor for them, but he was also a, uh, opportunist. And, and if he saw good deals in the marketplace, especially in the ski industry, he would buy a whol...
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Okay. And your operation at the time was you had a warehouse in San Diego, right? 'Cause you had moved-
customer: His business was Yamaha Motorcycles, and he was a distributor for them, but he was also a, uh, opportunist. And, and if he saw good deals in the marketplace, especially in the ski industry, he would buy a whole bunch of closeouts and figure out a way to make money out of it. So, so that was who Paul Bussmann ...
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Yep
agent: Right. customer: And Neil came down and looked at our operation and, and said, "Shit, I, you know, I could do this." But, you know, then we had to sit down and try and figure out how we were gonna do it. agent: Okay. And your operation at the time was you had a warehouse in San Diego, right? 'Cause you had moved...
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... to San Diego a few years earlier. And it was you and, uh... How many people do you remember working with you?
customer: And Neil came down and looked at our operation and, and said, "Shit, I, you know, I could do this." But, you know, then we had to sit down and try and figure out how we were gonna do it. agent: Okay. And your operation at the time was you had a warehouse in San Diego, right? 'Cause you had moved- customer: Ye...
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Uh, I had a, a warehouse girl and, uh, someone that came in part-time, did accounting.
agent: Okay. And your operation at the time was you had a warehouse in San Diego, right? 'Cause you had moved- customer: Yep agent: ... to San Diego a few years earlier. And it was you and, uh... How many people do you remember working with you?
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Okay. And who was doing, like, logistics, like, sending, like, shipping the orders?
customer: Yep agent: ... to San Diego a few years earlier. And it was you and, uh... How many people do you remember working with you? customer: Uh, I had a, a warehouse girl and, uh, someone that came in part-time, did accounting.
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Me.
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Okay.
customer: Uh, I had a, a warehouse girl and, uh, someone that came in part-time, did accounting. agent: Okay. And who was doing, like, logistics, like, sending, like, shipping the orders? customer: Me.
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Me.
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You were.
customer: Me. agent: Okay. customer: Me.
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Me.
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You were the guy.
customer: Me. agent: You were. customer: Me.
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Me. [laughs]
agent: You were. customer: Me. agent: You were the guy.
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All right. Okay. So he comes down, this guy Neil, and says, "Yep, uh, I think I'd be interested in buying you out."
customer: Me. agent: You were the guy. customer: Me. [laughs]
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Yep.
agent: You were the guy. customer: Me. [laughs] agent: All right. Okay. So he comes down, this guy Neil, and says, "Yep, uh, I think I'd be interested in buying you out."
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Uh, but from what I understand, he says, "You're gonna lose... We're gonna buy you out. You're not gonna have any ownership, but you can regain 25% of your ownership once this little issue with that, uh, other company, the UGGs-"
customer: Me. [laughs] agent: All right. Okay. So he comes down, this guy Neil, and says, "Yep, uh, I think I'd be interested in buying you out." customer: Yep.
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Yes
agent: All right. Okay. So he comes down, this guy Neil, and says, "Yep, uh, I think I'd be interested in buying you out." customer: Yep. agent: Uh, but from what I understand, he says, "You're gonna lose... We're gonna buy you out. You're not gonna have any ownership, but you can regain 25% of your ownership once this...
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... U-G-H-S company. Once that, that lawsuit or that situation gets resolved, then you can, you get your 25% back.
customer: Yep. agent: Uh, but from what I understand, he says, "You're gonna lose... We're gonna buy you out. You're not gonna have any ownership, but you can regain 25% of your ownership once this little issue with that, uh, other company, the UGGs-" customer: Yes
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Yep.
agent: Uh, but from what I understand, he says, "You're gonna lose... We're gonna buy you out. You're not gonna have any ownership, but you can regain 25% of your ownership once this little issue with that, uh, other company, the UGGs-" customer: Yes agent: ... U-G-H-S company. Once that, that lawsuit or that situation...
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That's basically the deal they offered you.
customer: Yes agent: ... U-G-H-S company. Once that, that lawsuit or that situation gets resolved, then you can, you get your 25% back. customer: Yep.
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Yep. That, from his perspective, is exactly how he saw it.
agent: ... U-G-H-S company. Once that, that lawsuit or that situation gets resolved, then you can, you get your 25% back. customer: Yep. agent: That's basically the deal they offered you.
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Okay.
customer: Yep. agent: That's basically the deal they offered you. customer: Yep. That, from his perspective, is exactly how he saw it.
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But me being a naive, you know, businessman, I was looking at, "Oh, he's so lucky. I'm bringing in three new partners to my business."
agent: That's basically the deal they offered you. customer: Yep. That, from his perspective, is exactly how he saw it. agent: Okay.
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Him, it was this guy, Neil. Paul was this guy you'd worked with, so he'd be a partner.
customer: Yep. That, from his perspective, is exactly how he saw it. agent: Okay. customer: But me being a naive, you know, businessman, I was looking at, "Oh, he's so lucky. I'm bringing in three new partners to my business."
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Yeah, Paul, and, and another guy, Joe, who was the closeout guy.
agent: Okay. customer: But me being a naive, you know, businessman, I was looking at, "Oh, he's so lucky. I'm bringing in three new partners to my business." agent: Him, it was this guy, Neil. Paul was this guy you'd worked with, so he'd be a partner.
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So, uh, the three of them were gonna buy the company together?
customer: But me being a naive, you know, businessman, I was looking at, "Oh, he's so lucky. I'm bringing in three new partners to my business." agent: Him, it was this guy, Neil. Paul was this guy you'd worked with, so he'd be a partner. customer: Yeah, Paul, and, and another guy, Joe, who was the closeout guy.
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In their minds, yes.
agent: Him, it was this guy, Neil. Paul was this guy you'd worked with, so he'd be a partner. customer: Yeah, Paul, and, and another guy, Joe, who was the closeout guy. agent: So, uh, the three of them were gonna buy the company together?
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Okay.
customer: Yeah, Paul, and, and another guy, Joe, who was the closeout guy. agent: So, uh, the three of them were gonna buy the company together? customer: In their minds, yes.
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And I was this sort of impediment that came along with it.
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But they needed you because you knew, you had the connections. You knew how to run the business.
customer: In their minds, yes. agent: Okay. customer: And I was this sort of impediment that came along with it.
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Exactly.
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You were... Okay.
customer: And I was this sort of impediment that came along with it. agent: But they needed you because you knew, you had the connections. You knew how to run the business. customer: Exactly.
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Yeah.
agent: But they needed you because you knew, you had the connections. You knew how to run the business. customer: Exactly. agent: You were... Okay.
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So you would stay on. And I'm not trying to second-guess you or anything, I'm just trying to get in your head when you were, at, you know, at that time. Like, when they said, "We're gonna buy the company," did they give you a check that you could then cash that was your money?
customer: Exactly. agent: You were... Okay. customer: Yeah.
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No. No. No. We, we set up a new corporation, and in my mind, we were all going to own the company 25% each. And, uh-
agent: You were... Okay. customer: Yeah. agent: So you would stay on. And I'm not trying to second-guess you or anything, I'm just trying to get in your head when you were, at, you know, at that time. Like, when they said, "We're gonna buy the company," did they give you a check that you could then cash that was your m...
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And what were they bringing to this? Cash?
customer: Yeah. agent: So you would stay on. And I'm not trying to second-guess you or anything, I'm just trying to get in your head when you were, at, you know, at that time. Like, when they said, "We're gonna buy the company," did they give you a check that you could then cash that was your money? customer: No. No. N...
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