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... because they'd seen what had happened to Snapple. | agent: Half a million dollars, I mean, that is a huge amount of your budget. That's 5% just on Rush Limbaugh for three months.
customer: Ri- ridiculously big, yeah. And what, what happened was that because the board voted for it, I didn't wanna fight them. I said, "Okay, I'm on the team," right? "So I'm gonna go there.... | 4,870.104 | 4,873.134 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | customer: Ri- ridiculously big, yeah. And what, what happened was that because the board voted for it, I didn't wanna fight them. I said, "Okay, I'm on the team," right? "So I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna introduce the UGG boots to Rush Limbaugh." And I said, "Here, try this on." "No, I don't need to try it on." And, an... | 4,873.134 | 4,873.154 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And Snapple had gone into the millions, to the hundreds of millions, and they were wanting to jump on board. So effectively, our s- our switchboard shut down for the entire season. We had to create new phone numbers, and we sent them out, the phone numbers, to our best retailers and said, "You're gonna have to fax the ... | agent: Hmm
customer: ... because they'd seen what had happened to Snapple.
agent: Yeah. | 4,873.154 | 4,892.644 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
But, but in 1993, you did 9 million in sales. In 1994, which was the Rush Limbaugh ad campaign, you do 11 million. | customer: ... because they'd seen what had happened to Snapple.
agent: Yeah.
customer: And Snapple had gone into the millions, to the hundreds of millions, and they were wanting to jump on board. So effectively, our s- our switchboard shut down for the entire season. We had to create new phone numbers, and we sent them... | 4,892.644 | 4,900.334 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | agent: Yeah.
customer: And Snapple had gone into the millions, to the hundreds of millions, and they were wanting to jump on board. So effectively, our s- our switchboard shut down for the entire season. We had to create new phone numbers, and we sent them out, the phone numbers, to our best retailers and said, "You're... | 4,900.334 | 4,900.404 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So not, not that much of a boost. So it, it, it's interesting 'cause I would have thought when I read about this that it would have really supercharged your business like it did for Snapple, even though his audience was conservative. But, you know, this audience is older, too. | customer: And Snapple had gone into the millions, to the hundreds of millions, and they were wanting to jump on board. So effectively, our s- our switchboard shut down for the entire season. We had to create new phone numbers, and we sent them out, the phone numbers, to our best retailers and said, "You're gonna have t... | 4,900.404 | 4,915.304 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | agent: But, but in 1993, you did 9 million in sales. In 1994, which was the Rush Limbaugh ad campaign, you do 11 million.
customer: Yeah.
agent: So not, not that much of a boost. So it, it, it's interesting 'cause I would have thought when I read about this that it would have really supercharged your business like it d... | 4,915.364 | 4,915.414 | customer | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And I think this was more of a younger product. | customer: Yeah.
agent: So not, not that much of a boost. So it, it, it's interesting 'cause I would have thought when I read about this that it would have really supercharged your business like it did for Snapple, even though his audience was conservative. But, you know, this audience is older, too.
customer: Yeah. | 4,915.414 | 4,917.684 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, and I'll give you a good example of that. Uh, one of my best surf shops, it was a pretty hardcore surf shop in Hermosa Beach in, in LA, said this grandmother drove into the shop 'cause they, they had UGGs on the big banner outside. And she ordered eight pairs for all her grandchildren, and she said she'd never he... | agent: So not, not that much of a boost. So it, it, it's interesting 'cause I would have thought when I read about this that it would have really supercharged your business like it did for Snapple, even though his audience was conservative. But, you know, this audience is older, too.
customer: Yeah.
agent: And I think ... | 4,917.684 | 4,939.104 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | customer: Yeah.
agent: And I think this was more of a younger product.
customer: Yeah, and I'll give you a good example of that. Uh, one of my best surf shops, it was a pretty hardcore surf shop in Hermosa Beach in, in LA, said this grandmother drove into the shop 'cause they, they had UGGs on the big banner outside. A... | 4,939.104 | 4,939.364 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So, so we substituted really good fashionistas who loved the product for these people who'd never even heard of it. | agent: And I think this was more of a younger product.
customer: Yeah, and I'll give you a good example of that. Uh, one of my best surf shops, it was a pretty hardcore surf shop in Hermosa Beach in, in LA, said this grandmother drove into the shop 'cause they, they had UGGs on the big banner outside. And she ordered e... | 4,939.364 | 4,946.784 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Got it. All right. But it doesn't sound like it did any damage. I mean, it just was a huge- | customer: Yeah, and I'll give you a good example of that. Uh, one of my best surf shops, it was a pretty hardcore surf shop in Hermosa Beach in, in LA, said this grandmother drove into the shop 'cause they, they had UGGs on the big banner outside. And she ordered eight pairs for all her grandchildren, and she said she'... | 4,946.784 | 4,950.884 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
No, it, it, it just moved us sideways, yeah | agent: Yeah.
customer: So, so we substituted really good fashionistas who loved the product for these people who'd never even heard of it.
agent: Got it. All right. But it doesn't sound like it did any damage. I mean, it just was a huge- | 4,950.884 | 4,952.384 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... it was just a huge ad spend. | customer: So, so we substituted really good fashionistas who loved the product for these people who'd never even heard of it.
agent: Got it. All right. But it doesn't sound like it did any damage. I mean, it just was a huge-
customer: No, it, it, it just moved us sideways, yeah | 4,952.384 | 4,954.144 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | agent: Got it. All right. But it doesn't sound like it did any damage. I mean, it just was a huge-
customer: No, it, it, it just moved us sideways, yeah
agent: ... it was just a huge ad spend. | 4,954.144 | 4,954.233 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So okay, so you do that. But y- you end up the year with 11 million in sales. And so, you know, you get into 1995, um, and e- even with all this buzz, you are worried that you guys are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Too much spending and- | customer: No, it, it, it just moved us sideways, yeah
agent: ... it was just a huge ad spend.
customer: Yeah. | 4,954.233 | 4,971.654 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, I, I could see it coming so clearly. In fact, the preseason orders that s- you know, for the January, February, March period looked like the company was going to be destined for, you know, uh, uh, 18 million, maybe even $20 million. | agent: ... it was just a huge ad spend.
customer: Yeah.
agent: So okay, so you do that. But y- you end up the year with 11 million in sales. And so, you know, you get into 1995, um, and e- even with all this buzz, you are worried that you guys are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Too much spending and- | 4,971.654 | 4,987.644 | customer | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And most people would be so excited about that. | customer: Yeah.
agent: So okay, so you do that. But y- you end up the year with 11 million in sales. And so, you know, you get into 1995, um, and e- even with all this buzz, you are worried that you guys are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Too much spending and-
customer: Yeah, I, I could see it coming so clearly. ... | 4,987.644 | 4,990.204 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
[laughs] I saw this as a kiss of death. | agent: So okay, so you do that. But y- you end up the year with 11 million in sales. And so, you know, you get into 1995, um, and e- even with all this buzz, you are worried that you guys are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Too much spending and-
customer: Yeah, I, I could see it coming so clearly. In fact, the pre... | 4,990.204 | 4,992.764 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Because you could not finance those orders. | customer: Yeah, I, I could see it coming so clearly. In fact, the preseason orders that s- you know, for the January, February, March period looked like the company was going to be destined for, you know, uh, uh, 18 million, maybe even $20 million.
agent: And most people would be so excited about that.
customer: [laugh... | 4,992.764 | 4,994.784 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I knew I would not be able to finance an extra f- you know, six, five, six, $7 million in product, yeah. | agent: And most people would be so excited about that.
customer: [laughs] I saw this as a kiss of death.
agent: Because you could not finance those orders. | 4,994.784 | 5,001.144 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And there were no real competitors either? There were no knock-offs at that point? | customer: [laughs] I saw this as a kiss of death.
agent: Because you could not finance those orders.
customer: I knew I would not be able to finance an extra f- you know, six, five, six, $7 million in product, yeah. | 5,001.144 | 5,005.924 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
N- not really because the UGG brand was so powerful that anything else was called a fake UGG. | agent: Because you could not finance those orders.
customer: I knew I would not be able to finance an extra f- you know, six, five, six, $7 million in product, yeah.
agent: And there were no real competitors either? There were no knock-offs at that point? | 5,005.924 | 5,012.264 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm. | customer: I knew I would not be able to finance an extra f- you know, six, five, six, $7 million in product, yeah.
agent: And there were no real competitors either? There were no knock-offs at that point?
customer: N- not really because the UGG brand was so powerful that anything else was called a fake UGG. | 5,012.264 | 5,012.284 | agent | eng | sv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Like, kids would not wear them to school if they didn't have the UGG brand on them. | agent: And there were no real competitors either? There were no knock-offs at that point?
customer: N- not really because the UGG brand was so powerful that anything else was called a fake UGG.
agent: Hmm. | 5,012.284 | 5,015.904 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And UGGs were not cheap. | customer: N- not really because the UGG brand was so powerful that anything else was called a fake UGG.
agent: Hmm.
customer: Like, kids would not wear them to school if they didn't have the UGG brand on them. | 5,015.904 | 5,017.504 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
No, they were, they were very... They were up in the, you know, $100 range by now, yeah. | agent: Hmm.
customer: Like, kids would not wear them to school if they didn't have the UGG brand on them.
agent: And UGGs were not cheap. | 5,017.504 | 5,021.604 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Wow. Okay. So you're still concerned about this. I'm just surprised because by 1995 you would have thought, "Okay, they've proven this out. It's growing." Did you see an end game? Do you see an end point? Did you th- you know, did you think, "Okay, we're gonna go public, we're gonna get acquired"? Like, did you even...... | customer: Like, kids would not wear them to school if they didn't have the UGG brand on them.
agent: And UGGs were not cheap.
customer: No, they were, they were very... They were up in the, you know, $100 range by now, yeah. | 5,021.604 | 5,041.444 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Well, I'm gonna open up here. I don't really talk about this, uh, so much, but I had a different pressure on me this year. | agent: And UGGs were not cheap.
customer: No, they were, they were very... They were up in the, you know, $100 range by now, yeah.
agent: Wow. Okay. So you're still concerned about this. I'm just surprised because by 1995 you would have thought, "Okay, they've proven this out. It's growing." Did you see an end game? Do... | 5,041.444 | 5,052.784 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm. | customer: No, they were, they were very... They were up in the, you know, $100 range by now, yeah.
agent: Wow. Okay. So you're still concerned about this. I'm just surprised because by 1995 you would have thought, "Okay, they've proven this out. It's growing." Did you see an end game? Do you see an end point? Did you t... | 5,052.844 | 5,053.124 | agent | eng | sv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Chuck Kaiser had sort of turned out to be a bit of a sociopath and was a very narcissistic person, and he started to create such chaos within the company that I spent most of my time fighting him versus going out and marketing and selling the product. | agent: Wow. Okay. So you're still concerned about this. I'm just surprised because by 1995 you would have thought, "Okay, they've proven this out. It's growing." Did you see an end game? Do you see an end point? Did you th- you know, did you think, "Okay, we're gonna go public, we're gonna get acquired"? Like, did you ... | 5,053.124 | 5,070.984 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm. | customer: Well, I'm gonna open up here. I don't really talk about this, uh, so much, but I had a different pressure on me this year.
agent: Hmm.
customer: Chuck Kaiser had sort of turned out to be a bit of a sociopath and was a very narcissistic person, and he started to create such chaos within the company that I spen... | 5,070.984 | 5,071.864 | agent | eng | sv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And I didn't really want to have to deal with Chuck anymore, and so this weird serendipitous thing happened. It was a goosebump moment again, right? I was in the baggage claim area at Atlanta Airport. I was going to the Super Show, which was one of the biggest sporting goods shows in the country at the time. And way up... | agent: Hmm.
customer: Chuck Kaiser had sort of turned out to be a bit of a sociopath and was a very narcissistic person, and he started to create such chaos within the company that I spent most of my time fighting him versus going out and marketing and selling the product.
agent: Hmm. | 5,071.864 | 5,102.924 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
This is in 1995 when you go to the Super Show in Atlanta. | customer: Chuck Kaiser had sort of turned out to be a bit of a sociopath and was a very narcissistic person, and he started to create such chaos within the company that I spent most of my time fighting him versus going out and marketing and selling the product.
agent: Hmm.
customer: And I didn't really want to have to ... | 5,102.924 | 5,106.064 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
It was the very beginning. It was- | agent: Hmm.
customer: And I didn't really want to have to deal with Chuck anymore, and so this weird serendipitous thing happened. It was a goosebump moment again, right? I was in the baggage claim area at Atlanta Airport. I was going to the Super Show, which was one of the biggest sporting goods shows in the country a... | 5,106.064 | 5,107.664 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yep | customer: And I didn't really want to have to deal with Chuck anymore, and so this weird serendipitous thing happened. It was a goosebump moment again, right? I was in the baggage claim area at Atlanta Airport. I was going to the Super Show, which was one of the biggest sporting goods shows in the country at the time. ... | 5,107.664 | 5,108.044 | agent | eng | tr | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... j- I think the show was in January or February. And I'm gonna backtrack. Do you remember when I was in the parking lot at Malibu selling UGG boots? | agent: This is in 1995 when you go to the Super Show in Atlanta.
customer: It was the very beginning. It was-
agent: Yep | 5,108.044 | 5,116.174 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Sure. | customer: It was the very beginning. It was-
agent: Yep
customer: ... j- I think the show was in January or February. And I'm gonna backtrack. Do you remember when I was in the parking lot at Malibu selling UGG boots? | 5,116.174 | 5,116.324 | agent | eng | fr | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Well- | agent: Yep
customer: ... j- I think the show was in January or February. And I'm gonna backtrack. Do you remember when I was in the parking lot at Malibu selling UGG boots?
agent: Sure. | 5,116.324 | 5,116.564 | customer | eng | de | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Out of your van, yeah | customer: ... j- I think the show was in January or February. And I'm gonna backtrack. Do you remember when I was in the parking lot at Malibu selling UGG boots?
agent: Sure.
customer: Well- | 5,116.564 | 5,117.724 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... Doug was selling sandals out of his car- | agent: Sure.
customer: Well-
agent: Out of your van, yeah | 5,117.724 | 5,120.744 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Huh | customer: Well-
agent: Out of your van, yeah
customer: ... Doug was selling sandals out of his car- | 5,120.744 | 5,120.864 | agent | eng | vi | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... around about the same time. | agent: Out of your van, yeah
customer: ... Doug was selling sandals out of his car-
agent: Huh | 5,120.864 | 5,122.204 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Okay. | customer: ... Doug was selling sandals out of his car-
agent: Huh
customer: ... around about the same time. | 5,122.204 | 5,123.084 | agent | eng | tl | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And he parlayed his business into licensing different brands like surf brands and stuff, and he eventually took on the license for Teva sandals. | agent: Huh
customer: ... around about the same time.
agent: Okay. | 5,123.084 | 5,133.044 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Aha. | customer: ... around about the same time.
agent: Okay.
customer: And he parlayed his business into licensing different brands like surf brands and stuff, and he eventually took on the license for Teva sandals. | 5,133.044 | 5,133.943 | agent | eng | so | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And in the very early '90s, the outdoor market took off, and Teva went with that to, you know, they went from, like, 16 million to 60 million- | agent: Okay.
customer: And he parlayed his business into licensing different brands like surf brands and stuff, and he eventually took on the license for Teva sandals.
agent: Aha. | 5,133.944 | 5,144.904 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Wow | customer: And he parlayed his business into licensing different brands like surf brands and stuff, and he eventually took on the license for Teva sandals.
agent: Aha.
customer: And in the very early '90s, the outdoor market took off, and Teva went with that to, you know, they went from, like, 16 million to 60 million- | 5,144.904 | 5,145.384 | agent | eng | pl | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... w- just through this. And, and because of that, they did an IPO. And, you know, I knew that they were sitting on about 25 to $30 million in cash. When I saw Doug at, in Atlanta, right? And I walked up to him and we high-fived each other, and 'cause we, we'd seen each other going in and out of surf shops for, like, ... | agent: Aha.
customer: And in the very early '90s, the outdoor market took off, and Teva went with that to, you know, they went from, like, 16 million to 60 million-
agent: Wow | 5,145.384 | 5,165.872 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah | customer: And in the very early '90s, the outdoor market took off, and Teva went with that to, you know, they went from, like, 16 million to 60 million-
agent: Wow
customer: ... w- just through this. And, and because of that, they did an IPO. And, you know, I knew that they were sitting on about 25 to $30 million in ca... | 5,165.872 | 5,165.882 | agent | eng | tr | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... right? We joked about selling out to each other in the past, and I said, "Doug, if ever we're gonna do it, now's the time." That afternoon, we had the accountants back in California talking to each other and suggesting meetings to, to start the due diligence on selling the company. | agent: Wow
customer: ... w- just through this. And, and because of that, they did an IPO. And, you know, I knew that they were sitting on about 25 to $30 million in cash. When I saw Doug at, in Atlanta, right? And I walked up to him and we high-fived each other, and 'cause we, we'd seen each other going in and out of s... | 5,165.882 | 5,183.012 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So he was interested in this idea of, of, of acquiring you. | customer: ... w- just through this. And, and because of that, they did an IPO. And, you know, I knew that they were sitting on about 25 to $30 million in cash. When I saw Doug at, in Atlanta, right? And I walked up to him and we high-fived each other, and 'cause we, we'd seen each other going in and out of surf shops f... | 5,183.012 | 5,187.272 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | agent: Yeah
customer: ... right? We joked about selling out to each other in the past, and I said, "Doug, if ever we're gonna do it, now's the time." That afternoon, we had the accountants back in California talking to each other and suggesting meetings to, to start the due diligence on selling the company.
agent: So h... | 5,187.272 | 5,187.651 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And, uh, 'cause he had this success with Teva. | customer: ... right? We joked about selling out to each other in the past, and I said, "Doug, if ever we're gonna do it, now's the time." That afternoon, we had the accountants back in California talking to each other and suggesting meetings to, to start the due diligence on selling the company.
agent: So he was intere... | 5,187.651 | 5,190.672 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yes. His company died every winter. Our company died every summer. | agent: So he was interested in this idea of, of, of acquiring you.
customer: Yeah.
agent: And, uh, 'cause he had this success with Teva. | 5,190.672 | 5,196.652 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
'Cause he was selling summer Tevas for the summer. | customer: Yeah.
agent: And, uh, 'cause he had this success with Teva.
customer: Yes. His company died every winter. Our company died every summer. | 5,196.652 | 5,199.652 | agent | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. Yeah. | agent: And, uh, 'cause he had this success with Teva.
customer: Yes. His company died every winter. Our company died every summer.
agent: 'Cause he was selling summer Tevas for the summer. | 5,199.652 | 5,200.432 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Right. Tevas were... And, and his company was not called Teva, right? What was it called? | customer: Yes. His company died every winter. Our company died every summer.
agent: 'Cause he was selling summer Tevas for the summer.
customer: Yeah. Yeah. | 5,200.432 | 5,203.911 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
No, it was c- it was called Deckers Corporation. | agent: 'Cause he was selling summer Tevas for the summer.
customer: Yeah. Yeah.
agent: Right. Tevas were... And, and his company was not called Teva, right? What was it called? | 5,203.912 | 5,206.712 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Okay. | customer: Yeah. Yeah.
agent: Right. Tevas were... And, and his company was not called Teva, right? What was it called?
customer: No, it was c- it was called Deckers Corporation. | 5,206.712 | 5,207.152 | agent | eng | tl | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So I called up Allan and I said, "Allan, we have this opportunity to sell the company-" | agent: Right. Tevas were... And, and his company was not called Teva, right? What was it called?
customer: No, it was c- it was called Deckers Corporation.
agent: Okay. | 5,207.152 | 5,212.152 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm | customer: No, it was c- it was called Deckers Corporation.
agent: Okay.
customer: So I called up Allan and I said, "Allan, we have this opportunity to sell the company-" | 5,212.152 | 5,212.242 | agent | eng | da | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... "to a really good guy. He's honorable. He, uh, he's not gonna screw us around. I'd like to start negotiation, or have the, the accountants start negotiating on one condition, that Chuck Kaiser is never, ever allowed to speak to anybody in this deal." | agent: Okay.
customer: So I called up Allan and I said, "Allan, we have this opportunity to sell the company-"
agent: Hmm | 5,212.242 | 5,227.052 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Okay. | customer: So I called up Allan and I said, "Allan, we have this opportunity to sell the company-"
agent: Hmm
customer: ... "to a really good guy. He's honorable. He, uh, he's not gonna screw us around. I'd like to start negotiation, or have the, the accountants start negotiating on one condition, that Chuck Kaiser is n... | 5,227.052 | 5,227.812 | agent | eng | tl | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And Allan went along with that. | agent: Hmm
customer: ... "to a really good guy. He's honorable. He, uh, he's not gonna screw us around. I'd like to start negotiation, or have the, the accountants start negotiating on one condition, that Chuck Kaiser is never, ever allowed to speak to anybody in this deal."
agent: Okay. | 5,227.812 | 5,229.912 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | customer: ... "to a really good guy. He's honorable. He, uh, he's not gonna screw us around. I'd like to start negotiation, or have the, the accountants start negotiating on one condition, that Chuck Kaiser is never, ever allowed to speak to anybody in this deal."
agent: Okay.
customer: And Allan went along with that. | 5,229.912 | 5,230.172 | agent | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And it took us, I think, from February is when we met in, in Atlanta. It, it probably took October, November to d- finish all the due diligence and have the actual transaction consummated. | agent: Okay.
customer: And Allan went along with that.
agent: Yeah. | 5,230.172 | 5,243.472 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So by the end of the summer, the deal closes- | customer: And Allan went along with that.
agent: Yeah.
customer: And it took us, I think, from February is when we met in, in Atlanta. It, it probably took October, November to d- finish all the due diligence and have the actual transaction consummated. | 5,243.472 | 5,246.852 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah | agent: Yeah.
customer: And it took us, I think, from February is when we met in, in Atlanta. It, it probably took October, November to d- finish all the due diligence and have the actual transaction consummated.
agent: So by the end of the summer, the deal closes- | 5,246.852 | 5,247.132 | customer | eng | tr | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... and Deckers agrees to acquire UGGs- | customer: And it took us, I think, from February is when we met in, in Atlanta. It, it probably took October, November to d- finish all the due diligence and have the actual transaction consummated.
agent: So by the end of the summer, the deal closes-
customer: Yeah | 5,247.132 | 5,249.892 | agent | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yes | agent: So by the end of the summer, the deal closes-
customer: Yeah
agent: ... and Deckers agrees to acquire UGGs- | 5,249.892 | 5,250.462 | customer | eng | tr | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... for a little under $15 million. | customer: Yeah
agent: ... and Deckers agrees to acquire UGGs-
customer: Yes | 5,250.462 | 5,252.872 | agent | eng | da | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yep. | agent: ... and Deckers agrees to acquire UGGs-
customer: Yes
agent: ... for a little under $15 million. | 5,252.872 | 5,253.552 | customer | eng | tr | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Um, and I guess you didn't really wanna stay on. I mean, you g- agreed to kinda stay on as a consultant, but you really didn't go, wanna go, uh... 'Cause Deckers is based in just north of Santa Barbara- | customer: Yes
agent: ... for a little under $15 million.
customer: Yep. | 5,253.552 | 5,265.472 | agent | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yes | agent: ... for a little under $15 million.
customer: Yep.
agent: Um, and I guess you didn't really wanna stay on. I mean, you g- agreed to kinda stay on as a consultant, but you really didn't go, wanna go, uh... 'Cause Deckers is based in just north of Santa Barbara- | 5,265.472 | 5,265.592 | customer | eng | tr | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... I think. | customer: Yep.
agent: Um, and I guess you didn't really wanna stay on. I mean, you g- agreed to kinda stay on as a consultant, but you really didn't go, wanna go, uh... 'Cause Deckers is based in just north of Santa Barbara-
customer: Yes | 5,265.592 | 5,266.172 | agent | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | agent: Um, and I guess you didn't really wanna stay on. I mean, you g- agreed to kinda stay on as a consultant, but you really didn't go, wanna go, uh... 'Cause Deckers is based in just north of Santa Barbara-
customer: Yes
agent: ... I think. | 5,266.172 | 5,266.402 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And you didn't wanna go there. You wanted to stay in San Diego. | customer: Yes
agent: ... I think.
customer: Yeah. | 5,266.402 | 5,268.142 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
They, they offered me the position of VP of marketing- | agent: ... I think.
customer: Yeah.
agent: And you didn't wanna go there. You wanted to stay in San Diego. | 5,268.142 | 5,271.232 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm-hmm | customer: Yeah.
agent: And you didn't wanna go there. You wanted to stay in San Diego.
customer: They, they offered me the position of VP of marketing- | 5,271.232 | 5,271.972 | agent | eng | de | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... but Allan, um, took me aside and said, "B- Brian, you, you don't have a political bone in your body, so if you join this public company, you're gonna get chewed up and spat out." | agent: And you didn't wanna go there. You wanted to stay in San Diego.
customer: They, they offered me the position of VP of marketing-
agent: Mm-hmm | 5,271.972 | 5,283.971 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Allan... took me aside and said, "B- Brian, you, you don't have a political bone in your body, so if you join this public company, you're gonna get chewed up and spat out." | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
Yeah. | customer: They, they offered me the position of VP of marketing-
agent: Mm-hmm
customer: ... but Allan, um, took me aside and said, "B- Brian, you, you don't have a political bone in your body, so if you join this public company, you're gonna get chewed up and spat out." | 5,283.972 | 5,284.412 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And so he was the one that made me see that, yeah, I'd be better off as a consultant. And so I worked for two seasons with them, uh, just helping with, with their marketing and sales. | agent: Mm-hmm
customer: ... but Allan, um, took me aside and said, "B- Brian, you, you don't have a political bone in your body, so if you join this public company, you're gonna get chewed up and spat out."
agent: Yeah. | 5,284.412 | 5,295.932 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | he was the one that made me see that, yeah, I'd be better off as a consultant | medium | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
All right. So Deckers acquires, uh, UGG in 1995. | customer: ... but Allan, um, took me aside and said, "B- Brian, you, you don't have a political bone in your body, so if you join this public company, you're gonna get chewed up and spat out."
agent: Yeah.
customer: And so he was the one that made me see that, yeah, I'd be better off as a consultant. And so I worked fo... | 5,295.932 | 5,300.952 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
'95. | agent: Yeah.
customer: And so he was the one that made me see that, yeah, I'd be better off as a consultant. And so I worked for two seasons with them, uh, just helping with, with their marketing and sales.
agent: All right. So Deckers acquires, uh, UGG in 1995. | 5,300.952 | 5,302.132 | customer | eng | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||||
I should mention that we've done another brand on this show that Deckers also acquired, a shoe that many people know called HOKA. | customer: And so he was the one that made me see that, yeah, I'd be better off as a consultant. And so I worked for two seasons with them, uh, just helping with, with their marketing and sales.
agent: All right. So Deckers acquires, uh, UGG in 1995.
customer: '95. | 5,302.132 | 5,309.112 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. Great brand. | agent: All right. So Deckers acquires, uh, UGG in 1995.
customer: '95.
agent: I should mention that we've done another brand on this show that Deckers also acquired, a shoe that many people know called HOKA. | 5,309.112 | 5,310.292 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Acquired that brand, uh, for about $3 million. It's a multi-billion dollar brand. Deckers is a... I don't know enough about Doug or the company, but what I do know about Deckers is that this is a, a business that knows how to take a small brand and turn it into a massive brand- | customer: '95.
agent: I should mention that we've done another brand on this show that Deckers also acquired, a shoe that many people know called HOKA.
customer: Yeah. Great brand. | 5,310.292 | 5,328.471 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yes | agent: I should mention that we've done another brand on this show that Deckers also acquired, a shoe that many people know called HOKA.
customer: Yeah. Great brand.
agent: Acquired that brand, uh, for about $3 million. It's a multi-billion dollar brand. Deckers is a... I don't know enough about Doug or the company, bu... | 5,328.472 | 5,328.672 | customer | eng | tr | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... because they have three brands: UGG, HOKA, and Teva, and it's a multi-billion dollar company. I mean, they have- | customer: Yeah. Great brand.
agent: Acquired that brand, uh, for about $3 million. It's a multi-billion dollar brand. Deckers is a... I don't know enough about Doug or the company, but what I do know about Deckers is that this is a, a business that knows how to take a small brand and turn it into a massive brand-
custo... | 5,328.672 | 5,337.112 | agent | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yes | agent: Acquired that brand, uh, for about $3 million. It's a multi-billion dollar brand. Deckers is a... I don't know enough about Doug or the company, but what I do know about Deckers is that this is a, a business that knows how to take a small brand and turn it into a massive brand-
customer: Yes
agent: ... because t... | 5,337.112 | 5,337.122 | customer | eng | tr | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... they've figured out how to make HOKA and UGG, like, not just a practical shoe, but a fashion statement. | customer: Yes
agent: ... because they have three brands: UGG, HOKA, and Teva, and it's a multi-billion dollar company. I mean, they have-
customer: Yes | 5,337.122 | 5,344.732 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yes. | agent: ... because they have three brands: UGG, HOKA, and Teva, and it's a multi-billion dollar company. I mean, they have-
customer: Yes
agent: ... they've figured out how to make HOKA and UGG, like, not just a practical shoe, but a fashion statement. | 5,344.732 | 5,345.312 | customer | eng | fr | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So they take over UGG, and they supercharge it. I mean, they do deals with Jimmy Choo. They open UGG brick-and-mortar stores in New York and in Tokyo. They, they did a, uh, an endorsement deal with Tom Brady. I mean, for years he would just wear UGGs everywhere. | customer: Yes
agent: ... they've figured out how to make HOKA and UGG, like, not just a practical shoe, but a fashion statement.
customer: Yes. | 5,345.312 | 5,361.812 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, no. He, he turned out to be a great ploy for getting into the male, you know, the guys who are on TV every weekend watching football. And that move with Tom Brady I thought was a brilliant stroke to bring people back to the, to just the fact that males do wear these products. | agent: ... they've figured out how to make HOKA and UGG, like, not just a practical shoe, but a fashion statement.
customer: Yes.
agent: So they take over UGG, and they supercharge it. I mean, they do deals with Jimmy Choo. They open UGG brick-and-mortar stores in New York and in Tokyo. They, they did a, uh, an endorse... | 5,361.812 | 5,379.312 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. What did you notice about how they were able to take this thing... It was the same product, the same name. | customer: Yes.
agent: So they take over UGG, and they supercharge it. I mean, they do deals with Jimmy Choo. They open UGG brick-and-mortar stores in New York and in Tokyo. They, they did a, uh, an endorsement deal with Tom Brady. I mean, for years he would just wear UGGs everywhere.
customer: Yeah, no. He, he turned o... | 5,379.312 | 5,387.932 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | agent: So they take over UGG, and they supercharge it. I mean, they do deals with Jimmy Choo. They open UGG brick-and-mortar stores in New York and in Tokyo. They, they did a, uh, an endorsement deal with Tom Brady. I mean, for years he would just wear UGGs everywhere.
customer: Yeah, no. He, he turned out to be a grea... | 5,387.932 | 5,388.212 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And now you had done a lot of the foundational work. You had gotten it on the legs of Pamela Anderson and- | customer: Yeah, no. He, he turned out to be a great ploy for getting into the male, you know, the guys who are on TV every weekend watching football. And that move with Tom Brady I thought was a brilliant stroke to bring people back to the, to just the fact that males do wear these products.
agent: Yeah. What did you n... | 5,388.212 | 5,393.312 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah | agent: Yeah. What did you notice about how they were able to take this thing... It was the same product, the same name.
customer: Yeah.
agent: And now you had done a lot of the foundational work. You had gotten it on the legs of Pamela Anderson and- | 5,393.312 | 5,393.441 | customer | eng | tr | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... people s- were sort of becoming aware of it. But what did they do that turned this into a, an iconic global phenomenon? How did... How do you think they did that? | customer: Yeah.
agent: And now you had done a lot of the foundational work. You had gotten it on the legs of Pamela Anderson and-
customer: Yeah | 5,393.441 | 5,406.012 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct |
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