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CMV: White males in the United States are so accustomed to privilege that it offends them for anyone to suggest someone else lives on the backfoot.
So I kinda want this view to be changed that i'm assuming incorrectly about white males in general and this is just a "coincidence" and that this is more about people bein... | I don't understand. You're saying that having played Smash is an example of white privilege?
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Well no, Smash is just the medium, it doesn't matter in specific. But this is the very example of the reaction I get, "I don't understand your point."
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So let's say one of my black friends mentions "hot comb on a su... | Could there be n issue with your sample size or the overall makeup of your sample or perhaps some other better description of the problem being the actual sample, and I’ll try to be succinct, but here’s what I mean:
I’m a white male from the South who went to college in the South, and I remember an occasional phenomen... | b1a7ok | CMV: White males in the United States are so accustomed to privilege that it offends them for anyone to suggest someone else lives on the backfoot. | So I kinda want this view to be changed that i'm assuming incorrectly about white males in general and this is just a "coincidence" and that this is more about people being assholes.
But my stance comes from years of experiences with particularly white males in video games.
I was bringing up the subject to a friend ... | Throwawaytaro | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Rape is not a big deal
In my opinion, rape just isn't a big deal. Now I'm not talking about rape by a family member that you have to see everyday.. obviously additional trauma would be associated with that. I'm talking about most other incidents of rape. If I were raped, assuming I didn't get pregnant or contract... | It should be enough to say that ***no one*** can do ***anything*** to my body that I disapprove of. Once that happens, it absolutely is a big deal. Everybody deserves autonomy.
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So if someone touches your arm unwillingly you believe suicide is reasonable to the same degree it would be reasonable for a rape victim?... | >assuming I didn't get pregnant or contract an STD
That's not really a fair assumption.
> In my opinion, rape is absolutely LESS traumatic than being beaten up (assuming they happen separately)
Again, not a fair assumption. Are you saying that you wouldn't physically resist a rapist?
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These are fair assumptions... | 67vne6 | CMV: Rape is not a big deal | In my opinion, rape just isn't a big deal. Now I'm not talking about rape by a family member that you have to see everyday.. obviously additional trauma would be associated with that. I'm talking about most other incidents of rape. If I were raped, assuming I didn't get pregnant or contract an STD, I would probably be ... | Rileg17 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: "Malum Prohibitum" laws are obsolete, unjustifiable.
# Definitions:
There are two broad kinds of illegal acts under legal theory: "***Malum prohibitum***" and "***Malum in se***."
*Malum prohibitum*:
>Malum prohibitum *\[wrong (because) prohibited\]* adv. Latin referring to conduct that constitutes an unlawfu... | Where would contract law fit into this?
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I'm going to pretend for the sake of simplicity that a contract is a kind of promise, and explore our ethical intuitions about that. If I make a promise to you that I will save your life in the event that you're ever choking, and then I stand idly by while you choke to deat... | I choose you , counterargument number 5!
Consider standards. For example, voltage for power outlets or which side of the street we drive. Breaking the law enforcing these standards would be Malum prohibitum, right? But society functions a lot better with such enforced standards. There is basically no cost to havin... | b13co7 | CMV: "Malum Prohibitum" laws are obsolete, unjustifiable. | # Definitions:
There are two broad kinds of illegal acts under legal theory: "***Malum prohibitum***" and "***Malum in se***."
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CMV: Liberals have become the primary party opposing free speech
This is a bit personal for me, because I've voted Democrat for the last several elections and even held low-level office with them. But I have become increasingly dismayed with what I see as their opposition to free speech (keeping in mind that it is an ... | First, I have to ask, why is this presented as a quasi-partisan issue?
Based on the below and the examples you give, it seems that your primary "view" in this case is about how people should respond to speech they oppose.
Presumably, you are equally opposed to efforts to pressure that wack-job state rep in Missouri... | None of the items you listed have anything to do with upholding the First Amendment. None of these examples are the government infringing on someone's right to free speech.
It seems like you have a broader definition of what "free speech" entails outside of the First Amendment. Could you clarify what it means to you... | 6v7j6q | CMV: Liberals have become the primary party opposing free speech | This is a bit personal for me, because I've voted Democrat for the last several elections and even held low-level office with them. But I have become increasingly dismayed with what I see as their opposition to free speech (keeping in mind that it is an extremely heterogeneous coalition).
In brief, I believe they are ... | gilescb | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Liberals have become the primary party opposing free speech
This is a bit personal for me, because I've voted Democrat for the last several elections and even held low-level office with them. But I have become increasingly dismayed with what I see as their opposition to free speech (keeping in mind that it is an ... | None of the items you listed have anything to do with upholding the First Amendment. None of these examples are the government infringing on someone's right to free speech.
It seems like you have a broader definition of what "free speech" entails outside of the First Amendment. Could you clarify what it means to you... | > "people are entitled to free speech, but they are not free from the consequences of that speech", please explain why this isn't a thinly veiled threat to impose consequences on unpopular viewpoints with an ultimate goal of suppressing them.
If you want to be free of the consequences of your speech, then you must in... | 6v7j6q | CMV: Liberals have become the primary party opposing free speech | This is a bit personal for me, because I've voted Democrat for the last several elections and even held low-level office with them. But I have become increasingly dismayed with what I see as their opposition to free speech (keeping in mind that it is an extremely heterogeneous coalition).
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CMV: There is no such thing as an American Accent
As an American living in Colorado, I am convinced that there is no such thing as an "American" accent. Infact, I would go so far as to say that, when someone says that American Accents are **wrong** like [John Oliver did this week on the tonight show] (https://youtu.b... | How many Americans make "er"-sounds when a word ends with an a?
Edit: Also, what about words like mobile?
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Mobile is a really great Counter-example. Where its AMERICANS who ignore the rules. Practically every American pronounces its like its spelled "moble" we leave off the "ILE" sound. In that sense you could s... | Have you considered that English pronunciation came first and American pronunciation second, making American pronunciation the defect?
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Neither came first. Both accents have evolved over time, but the American accent is closer to the accent used during the colonial era than the modern British accent is. The moder... | 67ws7a | CMV: There is no such thing as an American Accent | As an American living in Colorado, I am convinced that there is no such thing as an "American" accent. Infact, I would go so far as to say that, when someone says that American Accents are **wrong** like [John Oliver did this week on the tonight show] (https://youtu.be/jFWcSVPzxWI?t=2m21s) they are objectively incorre... | timtim366 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no such thing as an American Accent
As an American living in Colorado, I am convinced that there is no such thing as an "American" accent. Infact, I would go so far as to say that, when someone says that American Accents are **wrong** like [John Oliver did this week on the tonight show] (https://youtu.b... | What are your sources for your notion of the "rules" of the language? As far as I know there are no such rules. Every region pronounces things differently, so I don't think it makes sense to say that one particular set of pronounciations is following a particular set of rules and so doesn't count as an accent but is in... | How many Americans make "er"-sounds when a word ends with an a?
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"America" vs. "Americer" | 67ws7a | CMV: There is no such thing as an American Accent | As an American living in Colorado, I am convinced that there is no such thing as an "American" accent. Infact, I would go so far as to say that, when someone says that American Accents are **wrong** like [John Oliver did this week on the tonight show] (https://youtu.be/jFWcSVPzxWI?t=2m21s) they are objectively incorre... | timtim366 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no such thing as an American Accent
As an American living in Colorado, I am convinced that there is no such thing as an "American" accent. Infact, I would go so far as to say that, when someone says that American Accents are **wrong** like [John Oliver did this week on the tonight show] (https://youtu.b... | You're the ones pronouncing the words according to the rules...
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Why is rhoticity so important to this? You don't pronounce the h in herb a lot of the time, but lots of non-rhotic accents do.
You criticize the pronunciation of 'banana', but... it they pronounce it like that, they're consistently maki... | How many Americans make "er"-sounds when a word ends with an a?
Edit: Also, what about words like mobile?
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"-er" as in /ə/, I think. Word-final "a" pronounced as a schwa. | 67ws7a | CMV: There is no such thing as an American Accent | As an American living in Colorado, I am convinced that there is no such thing as an "American" accent. Infact, I would go so far as to say that, when someone says that American Accents are **wrong** like [John Oliver did this week on the tonight show] (https://youtu.be/jFWcSVPzxWI?t=2m21s) they are objectively incorre... | timtim366 | 3 | 3 | [
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As an American living in Colorado, I am convinced that there is no such thing as an "American" accent. Infact, I would go so far as to say that, when someone says that American Accents are **wrong** like [John Oliver did this week on the tonight show] (https://youtu.b... | There's no such thing as "no accent." Everybody - every single person in the world - speaks their language with some sort of difference from other speakers of the same language.
When Americans say "banana" with one vowel in the middle, and British people with [Trap-Bath split](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap-bath_... | Have you considered that English pronunciation came first and American pronunciation second, making American pronunciation the defect?
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When Americans say "banana" with one vowel in the middle, and British people with [Trap-Bath split](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap-bath_... | Your view is a bit all over the place, if I can simplify it:
CMV: the Mid-Atlantic accent in American English is the default English Accent
Is this correct?
Because there’s no such thing as the general American accent. There’s just a number of dialects. Let’s break out some examples:
Route: has 2 vowels, so the fir... | 67ws7a | CMV: There is no such thing as an American Accent | As an American living in Colorado, I am convinced that there is no such thing as an "American" accent. Infact, I would go so far as to say that, when someone says that American Accents are **wrong** like [John Oliver did this week on the tonight show] (https://youtu.be/jFWcSVPzxWI?t=2m21s) they are objectively incorre... | timtim366 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The US Military is socialism.
With "democratic socialist" candidates on the rise in US democratic elections the word socialism is becoming popular. To some there is a fear of the word, and to others it means equality and a better standard of living.
My view comes mostly aimed towards the fear perspective. There ... | Almost the exact same subject was posted a couple of weeks ago.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/cpudbw/cmv\_the\_american\_armed\_forces\_are\_the\_closest/](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/cpudbw/cmv_the_american_armed_forces_are_the_closest/)
I think the reply by /u/XzibitABC make... | In application, Socialism is categorizing citizens as demographics, that is supposed to be for logistics purposes only, especially in a Democracy where each citizen is their own case, but if that default were to shift then things can get ugly for certain demographics, that's a Tyrannical shift.
The military is a fairl... | cx428b | CMV: The US Military is socialism. | With "democratic socialist" candidates on the rise in US democratic elections the word socialism is becoming popular. To some there is a fear of the word, and to others it means equality and a better standard of living.
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CMV: students should not be allowed the day off school for religious celebrations
So, I understand why religious festivals are important to religious people, and I respect your right to have your religion and celebrate your festivals, but if the festivals fall on a day where the student has school, I don't think they ... | [deleted]
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But why take a day off when you can celebrate after school?
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Many celebrations involve traveling to see family. In the US, family could be 2,500 miles away. So you can’t just celebrate after school. | Does the same apply to days that are currently holidays for everyone and happen to coinside with christmas or easter?
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Schools take holidays into account when planning the school year. The year is extended to replace days off, so students don’t act... | o90a89 | CMV: students should not be allowed the day off school for religious celebrations | So, I understand why religious festivals are important to religious people, and I respect your right to have your religion and celebrate your festivals, but if the festivals fall on a day where the student has school, I don't think they should be allowed the day off school to celebrate, because education is so importan... | AbiLovesTheology | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: students should not be allowed the day off school for religious celebrations
So, I understand why religious festivals are important to religious people, and I respect your right to have your religion and celebrate your festivals, but if the festivals fall on a day where the student has school, I don't think they ... | [deleted]
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But why take a day off when you can celebrate after school?
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Because taking a day off with no school stress is better than getting like 3 hours of homework, dinner, and chores with maybe an hour squeezed in to force some kind of celebration. | It's just a day off, not a big deal.
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Why are they not allowed a day off for birthdays but allowed a day off for religious reasons?
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I'm guessing because a religion isn't just about that one person, plus most people probably wouldn't just know it's their birthday? No idea, not claiming to know the reasons why... | o90a89 | CMV: students should not be allowed the day off school for religious celebrations | So, I understand why religious festivals are important to religious people, and I respect your right to have your religion and celebrate your festivals, but if the festivals fall on a day where the student has school, I don't think they should be allowed the day off school to celebrate, because education is so importan... | AbiLovesTheology | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: students should not be allowed the day off school for religious celebrations
So, I understand why religious festivals are important to religious people, and I respect your right to have your religion and celebrate your festivals, but if the festivals fall on a day where the student has school, I don't think they ... | Well...
My country (not USA, but I supposed that in most of the west world is the same) has days off around Christmas. It's state law. All students has week or two vacation, and around three days are off even for adult people. And it's because Christian holiday. Yeah, even atheist etc celebrate that, but still it's i... | Parents should definitely have the right to take their children out of school for whatever activity they deem to be more important.
I dont think the school has any business inquiring further unless the student is failing classes.
If parents decided the religious celebration is more important than that day of school... | o90a89 | CMV: students should not be allowed the day off school for religious celebrations | So, I understand why religious festivals are important to religious people, and I respect your right to have your religion and celebrate your festivals, but if the festivals fall on a day where the student has school, I don't think they should be allowed the day off school to celebrate, because education is so importan... | AbiLovesTheology | 3 | 3 | [
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So, I understand why religious festivals are important to religious people, and I respect your right to have your religion and celebrate your festivals, but if the festivals fall on a day where the student has school, I don't think they ... | Well...
My country (not USA, but I supposed that in most of the west world is the same) has days off around Christmas. It's state law. All students has week or two vacation, and around three days are off even for adult people. And it's because Christian holiday. Yeah, even atheist etc celebrate that, but still it's i... | [deleted]
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But why take a day off when you can celebrate after school?
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Many celebrations involve traveling to see family. In the US, family could be 2,500 miles away. So you can’t just celebrate after school.
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Woah. Family can live that far away??? I didn't realise. !delta for explaining this. But if yo... | o90a89 | CMV: students should not be allowed the day off school for religious celebrations | So, I understand why religious festivals are important to religious people, and I respect your right to have your religion and celebrate your festivals, but if the festivals fall on a day where the student has school, I don't think they should be allowed the day off school to celebrate, because education is so importan... | AbiLovesTheology | 5 | 5 | [
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So, I understand why religious festivals are important to religious people, and I respect your right to have your religion and celebrate your festivals, but if the festivals fall on a day where the student has school, I don't think they ... | Missing a day or two here and there won't ruin an education. In particular, students routinely miss a few days a year due to illness. And the system is setup to account for those missed days and ensure a student still learns everything. As long as the religious celebrations aren't too numerous, it won't be a problem... | [deleted]
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But why take a day off when you can celebrate after school?
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CMV: Sports Teams Should Not Be Segregated By Gender
The reason men's and women's sports teams ever existed in the first place is that women weren't really allowed to intermingle with men in sports teams and that women had to form their own. However, since the US passed laws taking down discrimination based on sex, th... | So do you want a lot less women in sports? Cus that's what would happen. Each team has a certain number of spots and while some women may have the ability to take one of these spots most won't.
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Just teams in from public schools to what you mentioned. Did my research and I could see why. ∆
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Well looking at the other comments, these people have a point that women aren't as biologically good as men. Not to sound sexist, but it is a fact I did not know enough about till now.
... | 67tghd | CMV: Sports Teams Should Not Be Segregated By Gender | The reason men's and women's sports teams ever existed in the first place is that women weren't really allowed to intermingle with men in sports teams and that women had to form their own. However, since the US passed laws taking down discrimination based on sex, things have improved. With the rise of women in sports a... | RandomWriterGuy | 5 | 5 | [
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The reason men's and women's sports teams ever existed in the first place is that women weren't really allowed to intermingle with men in sports teams and that women had to form their own. However, since the US passed laws taking down discrimination based on sex, th... | So do you want a lot less women in sports? Cus that's what would happen. Each team has a certain number of spots and while some women may have the ability to take one of these spots most won't.
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But nonetheless for other sport... | Because women really can't compete with men in most sports. The most athletic men that are on professional sport teams are always faster, stronger, and bigger than them. No football, basketball, or baseball team would be ever draft a woman. Sure there might be one or two exceptions, but they would be the exception.
... | 67tghd | CMV: Sports Teams Should Not Be Segregated By Gender | The reason men's and women's sports teams ever existed in the first place is that women weren't really allowed to intermingle with men in sports teams and that women had to form their own. However, since the US passed laws taking down discrimination based on sex, things have improved. With the rise of women in sports a... | RandomWriterGuy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Jaywalking laws actually make sense
This is inspired by a comment I made a while back. Link to comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/cuhn8a/til_automobile_industry_invented_the_crime_of/exvrugg?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
From the responses and downvotes I got on this comment, it ... | I've never once seen someone try to cross a highway without a right of way or a bridge, so that's pretty moot for me.
But imagine this scenario and explain to me why this would warrant a ticket. The Xs are the sidewalk/crosswalk and the dashes are the road, a one or two lane street.
xxxxxxxxxxxxx me xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx... | Firstly, you're talking about highways and interstates, but most jaywalking occurs on typical roads. Maybe routes here and there but mainly just streets.
Secondly, that post is in the context of how the American automobile industry made it so that jaywalking, a term they kind of invented, became a thing. They didn't w... | cx4qkx | CMV: Jaywalking laws actually make sense | This is inspired by a comment I made a while back. Link to comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/cuhn8a/til_automobile_industry_invented_the_crime_of/exvrugg?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
From the responses and downvotes I got on this comment, it became clear to me that most people seem t... | AbortDatShit | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There’s nothing wrong with being jealous/selfish.
So from childhood we are taught that we shouldn’t be jealous and just accept what we have, but I always thought that was BS. I mean, it might be just because I am a jealous person by nature, but I honestly don’t get why jealousy is bad, maybe except for the damage... | There’s technically nothing wrong with any feeling any way, we have emotions for a reason after all. Just like there’s nothing wrong with being sad or angry. Jealousy in itself isn’t inherently bad. It’s when it lasts for a long time or it drives you toward something worse, that it becomes problematic. It’s one thing t... | >people say that you shouldn’t be jealous bc that’s not nice, but honestly: why should I care? If I’m jealous of someone, 99% of the time they won’t care. Not to mention that I don’t get why should I care about their feelings
can you think of any bad or dangerous consequences of jealousy?
if it would earn a delta fro... | o8v406 | CMV: There’s nothing wrong with being jealous/selfish. | So from childhood we are taught that we shouldn’t be jealous and just accept what we have, but I always thought that was BS. I mean, it might be just because I am a jealous person by nature, but I honestly don’t get why jealousy is bad, maybe except for the damage it can cause to your mental health.
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So from childhood we are taught that we shouldn’t be jealous and just accept what we have, but I always thought that was BS. I mean, it might be just because I am a jealous person by nature, but I honestly don’t get why jealousy is bad, maybe except for the damage... | >people say that you shouldn’t be jealous bc that’s not nice, but honestly: why should I care? If I’m jealous of someone, 99% of the time they won’t care. Not to mention that I don’t get why should I care about their feelings
can you think of any bad or dangerous consequences of jealousy?
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CMV: Facebook Should Not Have Been Fined 5 Billion Dollars
So Facebook was fined by the FTC 5 billion dollars. And everyone's like, "Oh, it's just a slap on the wrist." Meanwhile I am completely at a loss for what they did wrong.
I know what Cambridge Analytica did wrong. But I don't see what Facebook did wrong. ... | [deleted]
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How did Facebook's actions violate the agreement? Is [this](https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cases/2011/11/111129facebookagree.pdf) the agreement you are referring to? Because it seems to be they did everything in it.
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You know I was coming up with a really witty re... | The Cambridge victims didn’t consent to their data being used by that firm but you do consent to your data being used by an app on the App Store
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So are you saying there wasn't an opt-in for the information they collected like [this one](https://i.imgur.com/znmU5Wd.png)?
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no, CA was collecting data on your fr... | cdogtz | CMV: Facebook Should Not Have Been Fined 5 Billion Dollars | So Facebook was fined by the FTC 5 billion dollars. And everyone's like, "Oh, it's just a slap on the wrist." Meanwhile I am completely at a loss for what they did wrong.
I know what Cambridge Analytica did wrong. But I don't see what Facebook did wrong. The way I see it Facebook is no more responsible for Cambrid... | azuredown | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Decriminalization of Marijuana should not remove the criminal record or punishments of people currently convicted of marijuana related charges.
As title reads. Recently have been hearing calls for the legalization of pot, which I'm all for despite not smoking it myself. But theres also people who say that those ... | What is the point of continuing to punish people for an "offense" we as a society agree isn't worth punishment?
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I'm going to refer to prohibition. Bootleggers remained incarcerated because while the whole country agreed alcohol good, they still broke laws when it *was* the Law. As for "we as a society" marijuan... | Punishment has four criteria generally
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Changing the law so that marijua... | cx6e3q | CMV: Decriminalization of Marijuana should not remove the criminal record or punishments of people currently convicted of marijuana related charges. | As title reads. Recently have been hearing calls for the legalization of pot, which I'm all for despite not smoking it myself. But theres also people who say that those who've been convicted and sentenced based off pot charges should be let go and have the charges removed from their record which I cant agree with.
Y... | Cheshirexiii | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Unemployment benefits shouldn't vary based on your income at your prior job
I believe they should only vary based on your dependents (e.g. children).
If you were earning more money, that means you should have been better able to save and invest your money, and you likely also have assets that can be liquidated i... | [deleted]
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So unemployment benefits need to be at least done on a county-wide cost of living basis, not statewide. That makes perfect sense. Really though, the former person was being irresponsible by spending such a large percentage of their income on their mortgage rather than dealing with a slightly longer comm... | Unemployment benefits are meant to be a stop gap until you can find another job, preferably one that gives you a similar level of income so the change in your quality of life isn’t so drastic. With more income usually comes more bills, assets to take care of, mortgages, etc. add kids to the mix, it adds up. If you were... | i1gct1 | CMV: Unemployment benefits shouldn't vary based on your income at your prior job | I believe they should only vary based on your dependents (e.g. children).
If you were earning more money, that means you should have been better able to save and invest your money, and you likely also have assets that can be liquidated if necessary. Yes, your cost of living is probably higher since you probably have a... | Deadmeat553 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Some cuisines don't have much to offer for either people interested in food or cooks
Some cultures have a complex and varied cuisine that offers constant discovery and might take a lifetime to experience, or if you are a chef, a lifetime to learn. While other cuisines seemingly just heat up raw ingredients and th... | I would argue that failing to find the complexity in a dish is on the cook, not the food. The food no more makes itself than my bed does each morning. Further, are you denying the cook their ability to experiment and deconstruct and build up food? In New York, they make truffle pizzas; a far cry from the margarita pizz... | I think you're privileging complexity over perfection here, which is a mistake when evaluating food. A serious chef approaching even a "simple" cuisine, like a Chilean asado for example, will be seeking not so much complexity as absolute perfection. This will involve not just work in the kitchen, but in husbandry and h... | 6vyg6w | CMV: Some cuisines don't have much to offer for either people interested in food or cooks | Some cultures have a complex and varied cuisine that offers constant discovery and might take a lifetime to experience, or if you are a chef, a lifetime to learn. While other cuisines seemingly just heat up raw ingredients and throw it on a plate. Some examples might help.
Let's take a simple Chinese dish like tofu, o... | tchaffee | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's better to be an athiest than someone who is religious in name only
For perspective, this is coming from someone who is religious.
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I'm trying to improve myself and follow the teachings of my religion, but it seems like some people don't even TRY to follow the teachings of the religion that they claim to be a part of. They don't attend religious services often when it is expected of th... | overhardeggs | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There exists an objective reality and everything is subjective.
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I think that there is an objective reality(this could be called objective truth).
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Humans each receive incomplete snapshots of information over time from this reality through a model of the world. Each individual has their own mod... | Your view is self-contradictory. If there is an objective reality, then that reality _ipso facto_ is not subjective. So, it can't be the case that everything is subjective.
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I've already given you 2 deltas! Stop it! :)
I concede again, as I believe some aspect of what I've described it true, I'll have to refor... | > Humans each receive incomplete snapshots of information over time from this reality through a model of the world. Each individual has their own model of the world. I'm using the word model as the association of meaning to some input, where the input is auditory, sensory, visual etc.
> An individual recieves informat... | i1i37j | CMV: There exists an objective reality and everything is subjective. | ​
I think that there is an objective reality(this could be called objective truth).
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CMV: The direction American culture is headed is deeply concerning and has little benefit to anyone within it
I just recently had a son, and because of him I've been doing a lot of thinking about what kind of culture and society he's going to grow up into.
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It scares the shit out of me.
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The way we... | > People will become more sensitive.
In what world is this a bad thing?
> Exhibiting characteristics associated with masculinity
Toxic masculinity exists. My step-father is a very simple drywall tradesmen born in the 60s. Earlier this year he was let go for underperforming in a job role he didn't want but was give... | >I'm terrified of introducing my son to a world where the Jordan Petersons and Joe Rogans are demonized.
Why? Them being demonized by some people doesn't really seem to be stopping them. They've got huge platforms and they're making lots of money. I don't think you really need to be worried for their sake. Yes they ge... | cdnvz8 | CMV: The direction American culture is headed is deeply concerning and has little benefit to anyone within it | I just recently had a son, and because of him I've been doing a lot of thinking about what kind of culture and society he's going to grow up into.
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It scares the shit out of me.
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CMV: TheRedPill is very accurate about women and the reality of attraction, and the AF/BB concept
I am 16 years old and more self concious than the typical teenager. I have many self image issues and have known that I am ugly as hell.
I found TRP, and it says women value looks A TON. Specific type too, the tradition... | Don't listen to those creeps. Nothing they have to say is worth hearing.
Women are human. They all have their own individual personalities and preferences. Same way men do. Jim Gaffigan is married. Have you seen that guy?
Obviously being attractive helps get their attention. But you can still do just fine as long as... | I have read a bit about what the redpill says about ''women'' and I think those who buy into redpill ideology are entering a feedback loop of Confirmation Bias - because there certainly are *some* women who fit their description - maybe even about half of women, certainly plenty enough to provide these men with their i... | 67uay7 | CMV: TheRedPill is very accurate about women and the reality of attraction, and the AF/BB concept | I am 16 years old and more self concious than the typical teenager. I have many self image issues and have known that I am ugly as hell.
I found TRP, and it says women value looks A TON. Specific type too, the traditional macho guy with strong jaw, tall, etc. I have believed for awhile that my looks can be worked on,... | FreshPrinceOfIndia | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Everyone can't code.
**EDIT:** PLEASE stop pointing out the typo on title. Yes, I'm aware of it. Yes, it should be "Not everyone can code". Yes, OP is an idiot.
_____
I'm seeing a lot of push towards the "Everyone can code" thing but even as someone who took part in the team of dozens of hour of code sessions, I... | Software engineer here. Could you expand on the part about dozens of hours of code? In my opinion if you're measuring hours of coding experience in the dozens, then that's not enough time to learn to code properly. I studied computer science for 7 years and I still don't even feel like a master programmer.
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I mea... | Saying "everyone can code" is both a tactic to get people in the door who might think "I can't code" and a technically true statement. Even if all people can't code WELL, or at a professional level, doesn't mean they can't code at all.
The 5% number you threw out there is way better than zero percent eh?
If I were a... | 6w0hdn | CMV: Everyone can't code. | **EDIT:** PLEASE stop pointing out the typo on title. Yes, I'm aware of it. Yes, it should be "Not everyone can code". Yes, OP is an idiot.
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I'm seeing a lot of push towards the "Everyone can code" thing but even as someone who took part in the team of dozens of hour of code sessions, I can't begin to believe tha... | aveao | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Reddit awards was a bad idea
Money being a way to distinguish posts/comments goes against the idea of the constitution. A website of the people, by the people, and for the people. Not anymore. Now one guy with money can make a post stand out way more than a hundred upvotes would. It takes power away from your... | Developing and hosting a website costs money, where were they going to get this money if they didn't implement these awards?
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How were they making money before? I think it was with ad revenue.
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Relying on ads alone is a horrible business plan
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Facebook and YouTube did fine with ads.
Edit: what makes ... | It's a profit scheme, and seems to be working, proving it's a good idea to make money
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But should making money be prioritized over quality of the website?
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Seeing as reddit is a business, yes? It doesn't matter how good your site is if its not making in money
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That’s true. However, I already give a del... | i1h4la | CMV: Reddit awards was a bad idea | Money being a way to distinguish posts/comments goes against the idea of the constitution. A website of the people, by the people, and for the people. Not anymore. Now one guy with money can make a post stand out way more than a hundred upvotes would. It takes power away from your average, well-to-do redditor.
A... | RedditExplorer89 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Reddit awards was a bad idea
Money being a way to distinguish posts/comments goes against the idea of the constitution. A website of the people, by the people, and for the people. Not anymore. Now one guy with money can make a post stand out way more than a hundred upvotes would. It takes power away from your... | Developing and hosting a website costs money, where were they going to get this money if they didn't implement these awards?
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How were they making money before? I think it was with ad revenue.
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Relying on ads alone is a horrible business plan
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Edit: what makes ... | I don't think high award posts are prioritized over upvotes though. But yeah it leads people to believe it's "worthy" and deserving of upvotes so I get it
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I mean look at this post. People gave it awards as a joke and to make a point, and now it’s getting upvoted way fast. I can’t prove awards caused it, but it ... | i1h4la | CMV: Reddit awards was a bad idea | Money being a way to distinguish posts/comments goes against the idea of the constitution. A website of the people, by the people, and for the people. Not anymore. Now one guy with money can make a post stand out way more than a hundred upvotes would. It takes power away from your average, well-to-do redditor.
A... | RedditExplorer89 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Police/Military action regarding the Wet’suwet’en protests WILL result in serious injury, and quite possibly, death.
I’m going to preface this by saying that I am against the blocking of railroads. I support the message that the protestors are trying to get out there, but this is not the way to do it. Anyway, mov... | Why do you think that's the case? Police are trained to handle these kind of things without getting people hurt and there are actually very few protestors that need to be handled. Markham police just arrest three bank robbers who had guns and knives and have stabbed several people, yet neither the police nor the crimin... | Counterpoint: It will not result in any injury or death if the protesters cease their illegal activity. It is entirely up to the protesters how far this goes. Police have an obligation to enforce the law.
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This issue has been extremely divisive, but I’ve noticed that one side in particular is way off base with their pr... | JarJarJacobs | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Social media moderation should be done by the judicial system
*This is not a view about whether moderation should exist or not, it's about who does it*
In the last century, we came to the agreement that freedom of speech is one of our most important freedoms. And we create laws to protect it: you can't force a n... | sorry but how is Zuckerberg’s idea:
>While the idea might sound appealing, Zuckerberg is pushing for a duplicate of the judicial system, privately owned and dedicated to social network moderation.
Different from your own proposal for a system which would be:
>Financed by the companies themselves: they're already pa... | If you are arguing this based on the first amendment then know that the first amendment guarantees freedom of speech but does NOT guarantee access to a platform.
>you can't force a newspaper to not talk about a subject
you also cannot force a newspaper to publish an article about a subject. The owner and management ... | f78nj0 | CMV: Social media moderation should be done by the judicial system | *This is not a view about whether moderation should exist or not, it's about who does it*
In the last century, we came to the agreement that freedom of speech is one of our most important freedoms. And we create laws to protect it: you can't force a newspaper to not talk about a subject, you can't forbid someone to ta... | PlaneLettuce | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Forced representation is a stupid idea
I find a lot of people try and half-ass this or only care about representation of certain groups anyway. There’s not many people out there campaigning for every group to be represented equally, they only campaign for whatever group they belong to.
IMO, forcing representati... | People don’t go to see Hollywood blockbusters about superheroic CGI-laden special effects spectacles because they want to see genuine, organic stories, do they? Hollywood makes these movies to be crowd pleasers. Every part of these movies are focus grouped — they spend huge amounts of money on these things. If you want... | Except that a lot of older stories were written with white characters because the writers / publishers were essentially engaging in forced over-representation of white people at the expense of other groups.
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And? I don’t think that’s a good enough reason to retroactively change them.
There are stories today writ... | cwzd8s | CMV: Forced representation is a stupid idea | I find a lot of people try and half-ass this or only care about representation of certain groups anyway. There’s not many people out there campaigning for every group to be represented equally, they only campaign for whatever group they belong to.
IMO, forcing representation is stupid because it always comes off as t... | Caioterrible | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Forced representation is a stupid idea
I find a lot of people try and half-ass this or only care about representation of certain groups anyway. There’s not many people out there campaigning for every group to be represented equally, they only campaign for whatever group they belong to.
IMO, forcing representati... | People don’t go to see Hollywood blockbusters about superheroic CGI-laden special effects spectacles because they want to see genuine, organic stories, do they? Hollywood makes these movies to be crowd pleasers. Every part of these movies are focus grouped — they spend huge amounts of money on these things. If you want... | Except that a lot of older stories were written with white characters because the writers / publishers were essentially engaging in forced over-representation of white people at the expense of other groups.
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There are stories today writ... | cwzd8s | CMV: Forced representation is a stupid idea | I find a lot of people try and half-ass this or only care about representation of certain groups anyway. There’s not many people out there campaigning for every group to be represented equally, they only campaign for whatever group they belong to.
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CMV: Love does not exist because humanity is inherently selfish.
Not to sound like some fool who lives in their mother's basement but I have realized the ever-growing disregard for empathy and the promotion of self-interest that is borderline psychopathic.
A close friend of mine recently suffered from a divorce with... | [deleted]
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From my point of view; They do not exist as well. However, I do agree with you that love doesn't exist in a noble way. Δ
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Then what is the pain from being stabbed, or even just touching something? All it is is a chemical signal sent from your body to your brain. Literally everything in the body is ... | I don’t see why complete selflessness is a necessary condition for love
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Love can be both real and have a selfish component
Your title implies you are arguing that the two things are mutually exclusive | b0w8zk | CMV: Love does not exist because humanity is inherently selfish. | Not to sound like some fool who lives in their mother's basement but I have realized the ever-growing disregard for empathy and the promotion of self-interest that is borderline psychopathic.
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Not to sound like some fool who lives in their mother's basement but I have realized the ever-growing disregard for empathy and the promotion of self-interest that is borderline psychopathic.
A close friend of mine recently suffered from a divorce with... | All emotions, instincts, and thought processes are chemical reactions. Everything that humans experience are chemical reactions. That in no way means they do not exist.
Nothing in the definition of love requires it to be fully selfless. I am not sure why you are sticking that requirement on it.
And the divorce rate... | [deleted]
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From my point of view; They do not exist as well. However, I do agree with you that love doesn't exist in a noble way. Δ
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CMV: Joe Rogan should be deplatformed and arrested because of Drug Promoton
We need to ban Joe rogan in my opinion. He's promoting drugs too much. The man acts like he's a college kid with debt who just discovered weed and watched independence day for the first time. Why are all the lefties pushing for legalization of... | > I'm open to CMV on legalizing marijuana use if you can prove:
>
>its not a gateway drug
>
>its not addictive and doesn't make brain dumb long-term
Could you explain how alcohol is not a gateway drug and not addictive and doesn't damage brain function on the long-term?
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I have many alcoholic friends, the... | [removed]
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Then you aren't at all. If you want the state to prevent people from willingly using drugs via force then you're a statist. It's mutually exclusive.
It's like saying I'm a communist except I believe in private property. | i1bt9b | CMV: Joe Rogan should be deplatformed and arrested because of Drug Promoton | We need to ban Joe rogan in my opinion. He's promoting drugs too much. The man acts like he's a college kid with debt who just discovered weed and watched independence day for the first time. Why are all the lefties pushing for legalization of drugs? I'm a social democrat (not democrat party) + left-libertarian but I'm... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Acceptance of disability in general prevents or hinders the development of cures for serious injuries
Tldr: People who are disabled after an accident, for example become paraplegic, and claim that they can still be happy, independent, etc., give society the idea that things like paraplegia aren't that bad, so the... | The development of medicine and technology isn't driven by the opinions of random people. It's driven by economics and research interest. It's also greatly slowed down by ethical constraints. Eg, it's hard to do research on how to fix somebody's spine, because you need human subjects for such research, and it's importa... | What this is an insane argument.
We have freakin robotic arms and legs.
Cancer research is like the biggest focus of research in spite of all the positive messaging at rallies and 5ks around the world.
It's really sad about the biker story, but I think he kind of make my point. Without the positive reinforcement ... | f78geq | CMV: Acceptance of disability in general prevents or hinders the development of cures for serious injuries | Tldr: People who are disabled after an accident, for example become paraplegic, and claim that they can still be happy, independent, etc., give society the idea that things like paraplegia aren't that bad, so there's no cure needed, and because of this no real research is done, or at least not enough.
A few hours ag... | Fraeddi | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you encourage a certain behavior, you’re not allowed to criticize someone for it.
A couple months ago, I saw a comment that kinda went like this: “I was falling behind in a class but I noticed that my teacher was looking at me. I started wearing more revealing clothes and my grades bumped up by 2, what a creep... | She’s not making him look. He has a choice: to look or not.
If you know I’m a liar and you ask me a question knowing I might lie to you, I still have the choice whether I’ll lie or not. Even if it’s basically bait, you can call me out for lying.
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But when you’re actively exploiting somebody you’re not really in ... | So everyone but her are allowed to call him a creep? Why? How does that make sense?
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Because they didn’t actively encourage bis behavior.
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But why can’t she call him a creep? Does she have to believe he isn’t?
Why can’t she be annoyed that her “plan” worked? That he doesn’t have integrity and that he is sex... | cdm19t | CMV: If you encourage a certain behavior, you’re not allowed to criticize someone for it. | A couple months ago, I saw a comment that kinda went like this: “I was falling behind in a class but I noticed that my teacher was looking at me. I started wearing more revealing clothes and my grades bumped up by 2, what a creep for looking at a 16 year olds chest” I replied by saying that you can’t criticize somebody... | KaliserEatsTheCookie | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Emotional support animals should not be legally protected
I'm speaking about this in regards to the US, specifically New York. I'm not sure if the laws vary in other states.
I know an animal can be extremely beneficial to someone's mental health. I am someone who would certainly qualify for an ESA. I have a cat... | A landlord is not responsible for the damages caused by an emotional support animal, the owner of the animal is. The only thing the landlord cannot do is kick the tenant out for having the animal or ban the animal from being on the property. They are fully allowed to charge pet deposits, damage fees, etc.
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Under ... | A landlord isn’t financially responsible for actual damage caused by an ESA, the tenant is. The Fair Housing Act requires most landlords to make reasonable accommodations for folks with disabilities, with the word “reasonable” being vital. If a disabled tenant has an ESA that tears up the carpet, ruins it due to not be... | 84re5i | CMV: Emotional support animals should not be legally protected | I'm speaking about this in regards to the US, specifically New York. I'm not sure if the laws vary in other states.
I know an animal can be extremely beneficial to someone's mental health. I am someone who would certainly qualify for an ESA. I have a cat and she makes a big difference for me. Regardless, I do not agr... | apc67 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV Veganism is a form of speciesism
So I've heard vegans use the word "speciesism" to describe omnivores who are happy to eat pig or cow but would think it immoral or unethical to eat dog or cat. But logically, veganism is in itself speciesism.
First, I'll define both terms (if I'm working with incorrect definition... | A lot of vegans are basing their diet on the "do the less harm you can" motto.
As such, we currently know that animals are able to feel suffering, while it's still up to debate for plants, so eating plants and not animal is not due to an animal superiority, but just to a tentative to reduce suffering you generate whil... | When I eat an apple, does it kill the tree?
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When I drink milk, does it kill the cow?
EDIT to add: and an apple is living, whereas milk or cheese is not.
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Milk and cheese are full of microorganisms. | f7984q | CMV Veganism is a form of speciesism | So I've heard vegans use the word "speciesism" to describe omnivores who are happy to eat pig or cow but would think it immoral or unethical to eat dog or cat. But logically, veganism is in itself speciesism.
First, I'll define both terms (if I'm working with incorrect definitions please feel free to clarify) :
Vega... | StatusBadger0 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: “Cancer Alley” in Louisiana is a net positive force on the region and community opposition is often misplaced and overblown.
This is something that I would like to have my mind changed on. The only really good piece of information I could find online is [this article from the NIH](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc... | > But the industry itself provides jobs and tax revenues that better the lives of everybody in the region. Louisiana is a poor state with a high black population that does a shit job administering the economic benefits brought on by the plants. But that’s not the plants’ fault.
When you say it's not the plant's fault... | > But opposition seems to be to the construction and operation of the plants in general, which is a shame because they provide the opportunity for Louisiana and her residents to escape the shitty conditions that they are falsely blamed for creating.
The opposition to stricter environmental regulations is rooted in ho... | i16xu6 | CMV: “Cancer Alley” in Louisiana is a net positive force on the region and community opposition is often misplaced and overblown. | This is something that I would like to have my mind changed on. The only really good piece of information I could find online is [this article from the NIH](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3546767/) if you have any substantive resources to link, I’d be happy to look them over.
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CMV: Debate/Rhetoric classes should be part of the core classes (curriculums)
To clear some things out, I am not suggesting that debate/rhetoric class be a class you have to take over 2 semesters. It would just an one year class to teach everyone how to properly defend their view, or argue against a certain view.
De... | While I think debate is important and perhaps it’s under represented in curriculum, I don’t think a stand alone class would be effective.
More effective would be if debate were integrated into other classes where possible, such as history or English.
This way students might actually start to value what they’re lear... | Debate classes just teach you how to win arguments; they don't teach you how to formulate correct arguments or refute incorrect ones. None of those are the same things.
What would be much more useful, would be a class on epistemology and the Socratic method.
One of the best debaters of all time is the Young Earth Cre... | 84rw67 | CMV: Debate/Rhetoric classes should be part of the core classes (curriculums) | To clear some things out, I am not suggesting that debate/rhetoric class be a class you have to take over 2 semesters. It would just an one year class to teach everyone how to properly defend their view, or argue against a certain view.
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CMV: The euthanasia debate is unsolveable -- logical, compassionate people occupy both sides
I've come to develop this hardcore "centrist" view on euthanasia -- nearly all of the views that exist on euthanasia are completely reasonable, defensible and empathetic, even though many of them conflict with each other. This... | I can acknowledge the other side might have a solid argument. I also have a solid argument. What I can't accept is that the default position is caving in to the side that wants to tell the other what to do.
I have watched people I love slowly and painfully die. I know for a fact that I wouldn't want that. If I find my... | I believe it’s a matter of freedom. I believe in freedom to do whatever you want with your body. As long as it doesn’t affect others.
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But it does effect others: it effects the medical workers who have to administer the lethal injections.
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That only applies to two of the five approaches OP outlined. | f6w4lc | CMV: The euthanasia debate is unsolveable -- logical, compassionate people occupy both sides | I've come to develop this hardcore "centrist" view on euthanasia -- nearly all of the views that exist on euthanasia are completely reasonable, defensible and empathetic, even though many of them conflict with each other. This view is mainly in response to comments I see in a lot of euthanasia debates, where people acc... | ThisIsDrLeoSpaceman | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Migrants/Refugees should stay in their home countries and try to make their own countries better rather than fleeing to 'better' countries.
My concern is that migrant/refugee trends are perpetuating failed states and essentially condemning individual counties to a permanent ghetto status. It would be far more ben... | Refugees, actual legitimate refugees are fleeing war or climate catastrophes. They do not have the option of "stay and make it better". They have the option of stay and die, or flee.
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I disagree. If there is a war they can stay and fight. They choose not to. In the English civil war, there was no option to become... | One of my good friends growing up fled from the Middle East. As a girl, she has the same chances of changing things over there wearing a niqab as throwing stones as a brick wall. Worse, she would probably be murdered. Why shouldn't she get a chance at a free life? Why should she "sacrifice" herself?
Iirc, she was 12 ... | 6vtr3c | CMV: Migrants/Refugees should stay in their home countries and try to make their own countries better rather than fleeing to 'better' countries. | My concern is that migrant/refugee trends are perpetuating failed states and essentially condemning individual counties to a permanent ghetto status. It would be far more beneficial for the countries concerned if the people stayed and fought to dispose of their autocratic leaders and worked towards developing more plur... | youcanthandlethelie | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: While both have their benefits and drawbacks, the downsides of Canadian healthcare are no where near as bad as the downsides of the US healthcare system.
I see that the number one complaint when people discuss Canadian vs. American healthcare is that Canadian healthcare has longer wait times. I don't argue that t... | [deleted]
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>There’s pretty much nothing you can do as a Canadian to avoid their drawbacks ... except come to the US.
Yes that's my point. Wealthier people in Canada can't cut the line for Canadian health care - that's what makes it more equitable.
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I absolutely fucking disagree about having equality just fo... | I believe when people use the long wait times argument they generally aren’t talking about the emergency room. Wait times for things like scans, appointments with specialists and surgery I’ve heard can be quite long if you don’t have an immediately life threatening condition.
I haven’t looked into this at all so I ha... | 84s6xl | CMV: While both have their benefits and drawbacks, the downsides of Canadian healthcare are no where near as bad as the downsides of the US healthcare system. | I see that the number one complaint when people discuss Canadian vs. American healthcare is that Canadian healthcare has longer wait times. I don't argue that this isn't true, but the question is does it matter?
Let's take emergency room wait times for example. In Canadian hospital emergency rooms, there are two line... | ijrjtpk | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Anyone who supports trans-women (MtF) in competing in women’s sports either doesn’t understand their biological advantage, or simply doesn’t care about sports and consequences this would create
Recently the news about trans weightlifter from New Zealand competing in OI were trending. She used to compete in men’s ... | Trans people can't just declare they're female and compete officially against other women. They need to take medicine which diminishes the advantages of a male body.
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I don’t think such medicine exists yet. We can adjust hormones, but not height, bones, lungs etc, right?
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In regards to Bone Mineral Density de... | [Michael Phelps has a biological advantage over the competition.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/we-celebrated-michael-phelpss-genetic-differences-why-punish-caster-semenya-for-hers/2019/05/02/93d08c8c-6c2b-11e9-be3a-33217240a539_story.html) Would you ban him?
If your answer is yes, then you truly bel... | o88bme | CMV: Anyone who supports trans-women (MtF) in competing in women’s sports either doesn’t understand their biological advantage, or simply doesn’t care about sports and consequences this would create | Recently the news about trans weightlifter from New Zealand competing in OI were trending. She used to compete in men’s division, and now at 43 after transitioning for about a decade is going to compete against female weightlifters.
I simply don’t get how people are oblivious to potential implications this precedent w... | NeverBackDown91 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The conception that events very far away happened very long ago isn’t useful
We often hear statements like ‘such and such supernova happened 100 million light years away, therefore it happened when dinosaurs still roamed the earth’ or something similar. I believe this is not a useful conception because the dinosa... | > I believe this is not a useful conception because the dinosaurs could not have interacted with that supernova, and we couldn’t either until the exact point our telescopes detect the light from it.
For you personally? Yeah, the information is doesn't do a whole lot, but it's not supposed to. Figuring out the distance... | If you're going to get into a discussion about the nature of simultaneity then you should probably take it to /r/askscience. You're not likely to find a lot of experts on Relativity around here.
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Even there it would boil down to philosophy and debating it further would break it down to an issue of semantics. I thi... | p6k3w8 | CMV: The conception that events very far away happened very long ago isn’t useful | We often hear statements like ‘such and such supernova happened 100 million light years away, therefore it happened when dinosaurs still roamed the earth’ or something similar. I believe this is not a useful conception because the dinosaurs could not have interacted with that supernova, and we couldn’t either until the... | Angel33Demon666 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Tucker Carlson is a jerk, but he's right to resist the "offense archaeologists"
Carlson is an opportunistic cad who said foolish things when goaded by "shock jock" Bubba the Love Sponge. He's a bomb-thrower who loves stirring it up, and some of the things he said were definitely offensive.
He's an idiot for his ... | If Tucker Carlson had said a bunch of dumb shit when he was in his early 20s and it was being dragged out now, a quarter of a century later, I would agree with you. But people don’t change much between late 30s to 50 years old. This is who he is, and has been for a considerable time. He’s unapologetic and as of late... | I would agree with you if Tucker Carlson had been toning it down over the course of his career, choosing to sound more professional now than he did when he started. But he hasn't. He's the same moron conspiracy theorist right wing Russian bot that he has been his whole career. Digging up stuff from his past is more tha... | b0rdl3 | CMV: Tucker Carlson is a jerk, but he's right to resist the "offense archaeologists" | Carlson is an opportunistic cad who said foolish things when goaded by "shock jock" Bubba the Love Sponge. He's a bomb-thrower who loves stirring it up, and some of the things he said were definitely offensive.
He's an idiot for his refusal to apologize in any way, i.e. "Hey, I was being an idiot, and I realize that s... | chamisablue | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's rude to start a conversation with someone in public outside of a social setting.
I'm from Seattle, and it's pretty common for people who move here to complain about "The Seattle Freeze," this perception that people from Seattle are frigid, rude, and never talk to strangers.
I think not talking to strangers ... | I think you just proved why we have the Seattle freeze reputation.
That being said, I disagree. I think it’s kind. And human. It’s a genuine connection between two people who transect- even for a brief moment. It’s acknowledging each other’s humanity.
I can’t think of anything more important than that. But I don’t t... | https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/why-talking-to-strangers-is-very-very-good-foryou/article31987336/
It makes you feel human
It breaks the monotony of your commute
It helps you be understood
It's good for introverts
It might give you something real
It's an antidote to fear
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... | i11d1b | CMV: It's rude to start a conversation with someone in public outside of a social setting. | I'm from Seattle, and it's pretty common for people who move here to complain about "The Seattle Freeze," this perception that people from Seattle are frigid, rude, and never talk to strangers.
I think not talking to strangers is just being polite. Outside of social settings (a bar, party, church, school, work, etc.),... | PeachyPesco | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Two handed swords are mostly pointless.
In just about every situation, a one handed sword is better than a two handed one.
Military use.
If you are in the military, chances are you are not using a sword as a primary weapon and if you were, you would be better served having a shield than the few extra inches of ... | I'm not sure how you can believe this if you've studied their use in history. They were used prominenty by various groups throughout history with significant success. Is your contention that all of the warlords and military leaders in history who deployed two handed weapons as primary front line weapons would have be... | I'm not a history buff but when it came to real medieval combat, armour was so effective that basically your best bet to kill someone was to either hit an unarmoured spot (which usually required wrestling them to the ground) or striking them with enough force to carry through the armour which usually required a heavy w... | f6xt9q | CMV: Two handed swords are mostly pointless. | In just about every situation, a one handed sword is better than a two handed one.
Military use.
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CMV: Locker rooms will soon all be co-ed
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Let's sa... | I mean, are all bathrooms co-ed? Sure, it might have been 'settled in favor of the trans community', but that means that trans women can use women's bathrooms, not that anyone can use any bathrooms.
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CMV: Locker rooms will soon all be co-ed
I started saying this during the trans-bathroom/locker debate that eventually settled in favor of the trans community. When you take that decision alongside the long-standing decision that people with same-sex attraction can use their locker rooms, there's not much of a case l... | I mean, are all bathrooms co-ed? Sure, it might have been 'settled in favor of the trans community', but that means that trans women can use women's bathrooms, not that anyone can use any bathrooms.
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Because trans women (who may have a penis) can use women's bathrooms and locker rooms, it removes the objections th... | Consider that generally, a woman might feel more violated and vulnerable were she to share a locker room with a man, regardless of her sexuality. The difference you fail to appreciate is percentage of people in the (perceived) threatening group vs. the percentage of people in the (perceived) threatened group.
Let's sa... | 84rzv9 | CMV: Locker rooms will soon all be co-ed | I started saying this during the trans-bathroom/locker debate that eventually settled in favor of the trans community. When you take that decision alongside the long-standing decision that people with same-sex attraction can use their locker rooms, there's not much of a case left to have separate gendered locker rooms... | nonuniqueusername | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Ted Kaczynski should be released from prison
Ted Kaczynski is 78 years old at that point, and I really don't see how he could be a threat to society anymore so long as the government or a trusted family member can keep an eye on him so he doesn't get into more trouble in the future.
The way I see it, Ted has ser... | If the sole reason why he should be released is that he’s old and is no longer a threat, why does your post specify Ted Kaczynski and not all 78-year old prisoners?
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Because I was just thinking about Ted Kaczynski. It also helps that Ted is an academic scholar and philosopher.
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[Old men can still be dangerous... | > so long as the government or a trusted family member can keep an eye on him so he doesn't get into more trouble in the future.
He's estranged from his family. It would be a burden on them to have to keep an eye on him.
Jail is surveillance. His murders were not feats of strength. They were bombs. He could conceivab... | i10b3h | CMV: Ted Kaczynski should be released from prison | Ted Kaczynski is 78 years old at that point, and I really don't see how he could be a threat to society anymore so long as the government or a trusted family member can keep an eye on him so he doesn't get into more trouble in the future.
The way I see it, Ted has served his time and deserves to be able to live out hi... | AboveAverageChickenn | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Medicare for all is a detriment to those who have disposable income.
From what i understand medicare for all does not provide a "premium" option that you can pay extra to receive faster/better care. To me this seems like a detriment to anyone who can already afford good healthcare.
Why?
US wait times for treatm... | Wait times in Canada vary not by who has money, but by who has the most pressing need. If it's serious you don't wait, if it's not serious you wait.
That is more fair than the rich jumping ahead in line.
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It is in Canada and can be in America if people vote Bernie.
Rich people don't move away fro... | Why should you deserve better healthcare just because you make more money?
This isn’t rhetorical; I’d genuinely like to know why more money should entitle one to better health.
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Right, but why should you be able to get better coverage if you can pay more?
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But you are saying h... | f74tag | CMV: Medicare for all is a detriment to those who have disposable income. | From what i understand medicare for all does not provide a "premium" option that you can pay extra to receive faster/better care. To me this seems like a detriment to anyone who can already afford good healthcare.
Why?
US wait times for treatment specialists are something like 20\~ days, while wait times in places li... | Libtards_die_twice | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: declawing is no less inhumane than neutering
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Neutering doesn't really cause any suffering to my knowledge, and only inhibits the cat's ability to re... | Think of both surgeries as a "necessary evil," then consider what necessitates them.
Neutering is necessary because there is a huge overpopulation problem with pets. This diminishes the quality of life for both dogs and humans and in some way affects every person and dog in a society where dogs are kept as pets. Wides... | 84pmgv | CMV: declawing is no less inhumane than neutering | I understand that the term "declawing" is extremely misleading and that the procedure actually involves the removal of first phalange. That always seems to be the detail that convinces people that declawing is horrific. However, I'm struggling to see why it's considered to be more intrusive and life-altering than neute... | goddammitidontknow | 3 | 3 | [
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I understand that the term "declawing" is extremely misleading and that the procedure actually involves the removal of first phalange. That always seems to be the detail that convinces people that declawing is horrific. However, I'm struggling to see why it's considere... | Declawed cats can suffer intensely as a result. Complications from the removal of their fingers can cause pain and disability later in life. Additionally, a declawed cat that escapes home is defenseless in the wild.
Neutering doesn't really cause any suffering to my knowledge, and only inhibits the cat's ability to re... | Humans get hysterectomys and vasectomys. We do not get the finger area from the tip to the first knuckle cut off. That's essentially what declawing is to a cat.
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CMV: declawing is no less inhumane than neutering
I understand that the term "declawing" is extremely misleading and that the procedure actually involves the removal of first phalange. That always seems to be the detail that convinces people that declawing is horrific. However, I'm struggling to see why it's considere... | Humans get hysterectomys and vasectomys. We do not get the finger area from the tip to the first knuckle cut off. That's essentially what declawing is to a cat.
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This is a fair point. However, we as humans choose to undergo those procedures, sometimes for personal benefit. The same is not true for pets. They h... | Declawed cats can suffer intensely as a result. Complications from the removal of their fingers can cause pain and disability later in life. Additionally, a declawed cat that escapes home is defenseless in the wild.
Neutering doesn't really cause any suffering to my knowledge, and only inhibits the cat's ability to re... | 84pmgv | CMV: declawing is no less inhumane than neutering | I understand that the term "declawing" is extremely misleading and that the procedure actually involves the removal of first phalange. That always seems to be the detail that convinces people that declawing is horrific. However, I'm struggling to see why it's considered to be more intrusive and life-altering than neute... | goddammitidontknow | 3 | 3 | [
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I understand that the term "declawing" is extremely misleading and that the procedure actually involves the removal of first phalange. That always seems to be the detail that convinces people that declawing is horrific. However, I'm struggling to see why it's considere... | Declawed cats can suffer intensely as a result. Complications from the removal of their fingers can cause pain and disability later in life. Additionally, a declawed cat that escapes home is defenseless in the wild.
Neutering doesn't really cause any suffering to my knowledge, and only inhibits the cat's ability to re... | Humans get hysterectomys and vasectomys. We do not get the finger area from the tip to the first knuckle cut off. That's essentially what declawing is to a cat.
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CMV: Westernisation and modernization are pretty synonymous.
I am from an asian country, and I think Westernisation and modernization are pretty synonymous. At this current point of time Western civilization literally has a better overall lifestyles. It may change in the future. Progressive democratic principles? Free... | Would christian missionaries bringing homophobic nonsense count as part of this?
And do you have any ideas why the US might be more 'developed' than the countries they got their slaves from?
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Do you really think asian religions are perfect? Hinduism has casteism, Islam... well they are just aggressive Christians.... | Shanghai is a modern city but one could not call it "Western".
It's got better public transportation and social welfare than most cities in America (not necessarily European countries) which makes it modern but it doesn't have a democratic government, basic human rights such as freedom of expression, and it has very ... | tktl0a | CMV: Westernisation and modernization are pretty synonymous. | I am from an asian country, and I think Westernisation and modernization are pretty synonymous. At this current point of time Western civilization literally has a better overall lifestyles. It may change in the future. Progressive democratic principles? Freedom of speech? Clothing? Industrialisation? A disciplined army... | Chris_Blake786 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Turing was wrong: "Halting problem HAS an universal solution"
His halting problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem Has universal solution.
Basically if you want to know if program halts you hire 1 million of best programers close them into the room and say to them to solve the problem.
If you argu... | Your idea rests on the assumption that programmers can accurately tell whether a program will run with a given input or not.
They often get it wrong.
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Well thats why I said a milion programmers ...
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Ok, and how do you resolve disagreements, is it just majority vote?
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Who said anything about majority vo... | Where’s the proof that the humans/AI will be able to correctly decide whether the algorithm will halt or not?
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easy ... show me a code that humans dont undestand or show me a code that humans will never understand in a milion years ...
I dont think you can generate such code
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I would just have the stopping ... | 1fgwq4v | CMV: Turing was wrong: "Halting problem HAS an universal solution" | His halting problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem Has universal solution.
Basically if you want to know if program halts you hire 1 million of best programers close them into the room and say to them to solve the problem.
If you argue that humans are not alghorims ... fine ... replace humans with AI ... | bertoncelj1 | 11 | 11 | [
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CMV: Under SCOTUS’s recent emphasis on a more textual reading of the constitution, combined with the call to give power back to the states, the 2nd amendment is due for reinterpretation.
Since the courts have decided to adopt an approach more akin Alito’s strict textualist approach and argue precedent isn’t as relevan... | 1. textualism do not mean what you think it means
2. textualism is very specifically the plain interpretation of the law, and supporting documentation, using the exact meaning of the language as it was written, at the TIME it was written.
For example - had someone written a law in the 1800s saying
> "We here by decl... | The second amendment is incorporated, which means that the states are subject to it. The phrase “well regulated militia” is a justification for the right, not a qualifier.
So sure. Let’s do that- because that would mean repealing the NFA, abolishing the ATF, and rendering all gun control unconstitutional.
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>rende... | vob9rr | CMV: Under SCOTUS’s recent emphasis on a more textual reading of the constitution, combined with the call to give power back to the states, the 2nd amendment is due for reinterpretation. | Since the courts have decided to adopt an approach more akin Alito’s strict textualist approach and argue precedent isn’t as relevant, then it’s time to revisit “…a well regulated militia” in the 2nd amendment with less consideration for precedent.
To expand further:
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CMV: We are over thinking the housing crisis. Just incentivize the building of more homes.
This isn’t my area of expertise, so there’s a chance that my mind will be changed in record time. However, I keep hearing about subsidized housing, rent control, and low income housing. From my perspective, the solution is to de... | The issue isn't that there aren't enough homes, it's that there aren't enough homes people can afford. If there are five million homes and poor people can't afford any of them, then there aren't really five million homes available to them. Building a bunch of homes won't help unless they're the kind of homes poor peopl... | Low income housing attracts “low income behavior”, which drives down property values and makes homes harder to sell. Developers want to make a profit.
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Which is why the real solution is to be tough on crime to bring down housing prices.
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That approach hasn’t really worked | uwdr0m | CMV: We are over thinking the housing crisis. Just incentivize the building of more homes. | This isn’t my area of expertise, so there’s a chance that my mind will be changed in record time. However, I keep hearing about subsidized housing, rent control, and low income housing. From my perspective, the solution is to deemphasize these programs and go all-in on encouraging the private sector to build new apartm... | OutdoorzExplorerz | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Prejudice is not only inevitable, but it is necessary for human function.
First of all, most definitions of prejudice define it as a preconceived notion of something (IE an assumption). Making assumptions was an evolutionary must, as an animal's (And a human's) brain is unable to process and understand every piec... | Not exactly.
Prejudice means that we hold onto ideas even if they aren't true.
We think that black people are bad even if the person in front of me might not be bad because we had one experience with a black person.
That could harm me if that person had a job for me that I didn't know about. Or could help me in a... | >These prejudices help the human survive; without it, he will be taken by surprise by any attack.
But this assumption is based on statistics which are false.
Prejudice is holding onto stereotypes which don't accurately reflect the world around us and letting those stereotypes affect our life.
Racial prejudice toward... | 77d02i | CMV: Prejudice is not only inevitable, but it is necessary for human function. | First of all, most definitions of prejudice define it as a preconceived notion of something (IE an assumption). Making assumptions was an evolutionary must, as an animal's (And a human's) brain is unable to process and understand every piece of information the senses give it at the same time as making rational decision... | Sealestr | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV We should confront Holocaust denial not dismiss it.
I don't want to prop these losers up, but if we confronted these people more instead of simply saying "not even worth the time" i'm sure a lot less people online would deny the holocaust (there's probably more than you think). If you've been to some Nazi websites... | Realistically, there comes a point where confronting idiocy becomes pointless.
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Look at other things like the flat earth "theory"- no matter how many times you show that... | [removed]
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CMV: Doing drugs doesn't make you a bad person
I thought most people would agree, but a [comment of mine saying just that](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/92t4l3/7_months_alcohol_and_heroin_free/e38ezrw/) has been downvoted, so apparently most would disagree.
First of all it's not that easy to judge someone to... | Strictly speaking, no. Also, I'm fully in favor of decriminalization.
But it has plenty attached issues:
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* Bad drug addiction often leads to crime, which does make you a bad person.
* Less bad drug add... | I honestly don’t care if drugs are good or bad.
But there is a history of repeated drug use leading to lapses in judgment, and can ruin you financially and if you have a family you can ruin that too. Maybe even death. So I don’t think bad person is a good word, just foolish. But that leads the question, is it morally ... | 92ummu | CMV: Doing drugs doesn't make you a bad person | I thought most people would agree, but a [comment of mine saying just that](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/92t4l3/7_months_alcohol_and_heroin_free/e38ezrw/) has been downvoted, so apparently most would disagree.
First of all it's not that easy to judge someone to be good or bad because it's a very complicated ... | perditiousPenguin | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: People need to stop remaking Cinderella 😭
People keep retelling the same story of “Mistreated girl gets the guy and they get married”, for once I’d like to see the original story advertised. Now that’d be a good movie.
I’ve seen so many ads for different types of Cinderella that I just don’t care for anymore. T... | [deleted]
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1) No need to imply things, I don’t really care for the fairytale idea of finding a prince charming anyways.
2) I understand that, but there are 12 direct adaptations to the original story. If each generation has to know the story, just show them the original.
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If it has the same plot, like - “Mistreated main character with an ‘evil’ family gets a ‘fairy god mother’ goes to an event where they meet the love of their life, eventually falls in love and dates/marries them”
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Do you feel that also people... | vo86oc | CMV: People need to stop remaking Cinderella 😭 | People keep retelling the same story of “Mistreated girl gets the guy and they get married”, for once I’d like to see the original story advertised. Now that’d be a good movie.
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CMV: Defining abortion as murder is unethical, because it creates a conflict of interest between a medical provider and their Patient.
I believe that abortion and the various differences of opinion on when life begins are emotionally visceral matters to many Americans. This being said, I also believe that it is legall... | There are a lot of things that a patient wants that providers aren’t allowed to give… Pain meds run right at the top of that list. Unless they are NEEDED, it is illegal and creates a conflict of interest between patient wants and provider duties. This is no different.
Also: you need to define whether you are talking ... | Defining abortion as murder is not unethical because it creates moral dilemmas, if we as a society decide that abortion is murder those ethical dilemmas are dilemmas because we have to decide if killing a fetus is acceptable in certain cases. Killing someone else being illegal does not make self defense illegal, even ... | uw9pic | CMV: Defining abortion as murder is unethical, because it creates a conflict of interest between a medical provider and their Patient. | I believe that abortion and the various differences of opinion on when life begins are emotionally visceral matters to many Americans. This being said, I also believe that it is legally and medically unethical to define abortion as murder or illegal because of the unreasonable position and conflict of interests that wo... | Soilgheas | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you’re pro-life in regards to abortion and want the government to ban it, you should also be pro-life for things other than the unborn.
You cannot claim to be pro-life yet be in support of practices like: the death penalty, hunting, fishing, not mask wearing out in public, the food industry in which millions o... | [removed]
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In my opinion, they’re the same. Especially the hunting one. You can’t claim to be pro-life and call abortion murder than go hunt an animal. How are t... | lqc15n | CMV: If you’re pro-life in regards to abortion and want the government to ban it, you should also be pro-life for things other than the unborn. | You cannot claim to be pro-life yet be in support of practices like: the death penalty, hunting, fishing, not mask wearing out in public, the food industry in which millions of animals are killed a year, etc. I personally am pro-life for myself, but I am pro-choice for the country. I believe it’s a woman right to chose... | boypwuss | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I find difficulty in supporting abortion.
I want to make this thread as a genuine opportunity to see some info and get some opinions that can change my view, as i am clearly in the minority, especially on Reddit. I dont know if I’m missing something, but I just find it hard to support.
First, i need to point out... | The question on the floor is this - does a human have a right to life, *if* it requires another human body to act as a host in order to survive?
Unfortunately, there is no objective way to answer this question, so it comes down to a matter of opinion, but people who are pro choice tend to think that if a human is gro... | An abortion is a safe, legal, medical procedure. It does not end the life of any baby.
Also why is all the burden placed on the mother with zero responsibility, which seems to be your concern, for the father.
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It does, as the study above dictates
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One study doesn't dictate anything. Especially one written by... | vo8nwq | CMV: I find difficulty in supporting abortion. | I want to make this thread as a genuine opportunity to see some info and get some opinions that can change my view, as i am clearly in the minority, especially on Reddit. I dont know if I’m missing something, but I just find it hard to support.
First, i need to point out that I am on board with abortions for things su... | SuspiciousAdvisor442 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I find difficulty in supporting abortion.
I want to make this thread as a genuine opportunity to see some info and get some opinions that can change my view, as i am clearly in the minority, especially on Reddit. I dont know if I’m missing something, but I just find it hard to support.
First, i need to point out... | A woman needs the right to control whether or not she is pregnant.
Right now, we can't make her not pregnant and preserve the fetus. In the future that might change and different discussions might have to occur. But right now, the only way for her to end a pregnancy is going to kill the fetus.
Her right to not be u... | An abortion is a safe, legal, medical procedure. It does not end the life of any baby.
Also why is all the burden placed on the mother with zero responsibility, which seems to be your concern, for the father.
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It does, as the study above dictates
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One study doesn't dictate anything. Especially one written by... | vo8nwq | CMV: I find difficulty in supporting abortion. | I want to make this thread as a genuine opportunity to see some info and get some opinions that can change my view, as i am clearly in the minority, especially on Reddit. I dont know if I’m missing something, but I just find it hard to support.
First, i need to point out that I am on board with abortions for things su... | SuspiciousAdvisor442 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Two-party consent recording laws should not exist.
So in some places they have two-party consent laws where you need to have the consent of someone before you record a conversation. Unless I'm mistaken, you could record someone conspiring to do a major crime against you personally, but due to the two-party consen... | [deleted]
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>I don't really understand the specific law, but I'm not sure why you would tell him to try to gather evidence. Just tell him to get a lawyer ASAP, report the abuse and get out of the situation.
If he does something she doesn't like, such as trying to leave, she'll say he raped and beat her. This woman... | I get your opinion. Really.
But think about all the ways it can turn sour. 2 random people meet and hookup. Now you don't need their consent to record it. If I don't need your consent to record it, I don't need your consent to play it for anyone else.
There's just a can of worms here that I don't feel you're entirel... | lqb51p | CMV: Two-party consent recording laws should not exist. | So in some places they have two-party consent laws where you need to have the consent of someone before you record a conversation. Unless I'm mistaken, you could record someone conspiring to do a major crime against you personally, but due to the two-party consent law, this wouldn't be admissible in court and you would... | bobsagetsmaid | 3 | 2 | [
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CMV: Proportionality shouldn’t apply to most self defense situations. It protects the aggressor and punishes the victim
Proportionality in self defense is one of the most backwards and selectively applied concepts we still cling to. I’m not a self defense absolutist, because there will be fringe/grey area cases where ... | The problem with your position is that you concede that proportionality does apply in some cases. So, you do believe in a form of proportionality, but perhaps have a different opinion on the degree.
This makes it difficult for us to change your view because with you identifying the exact amount of degree you find that... | So if my friend gets angry at me and goes to slap me I can shoot em in the head?
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Yes.
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CMV: Criminal convictions in US are meaningless
Over 90% of convictions in the United States are the result of plea bargains. In many such cases, the defendant agrees to plead guilty and forgo a jury trial and in return, the prosecutor will apply a lesser charge and request a lesser sentence. This fundamentally perver... | From the point of view of guilty parties, plea deals are beneficial. If your friend actually did do the crime, they are getting a significantly lighter sentence. This can be a useful tool, when used correctly, to give a lighter punishment.
Let’s say your friend was caught red-handed for some petty theft. Let’s say the... | It's a logistics problem. Trials are time consuming and expensive. Had your friend not had the option of a plea deal, he'd still have had the same severe charge to face with the same evidence against and for him, only without a safer option to choose, and the process would have taken ten times as long as an already lon... | lq899i | CMV: Criminal convictions in US are meaningless | Over 90% of convictions in the United States are the result of plea bargains. In many such cases, the defendant agrees to plead guilty and forgo a jury trial and in return, the prosecutor will apply a lesser charge and request a lesser sentence. This fundamentally perverts our justice system because it strongly compels... | KXLY | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the defense of "I was afraid for my life" should not be sufficient (on its own) to justify a law enforcement officer shooting someone.
This is an issue that is all over the news lately, with a lot of strong opinions on every side. I want to be very clear that while certain specific cases of recent police shooting... | The problem is that criminals who do want to harm police don't fall nicely into that triangle.
There are many situations where intent, ability, and opportunity do not seem present and yet people have been hurt.
You don't generally see police get away with killing people who are calmly talking, who have their hands ou... | This strikes me as distinction without difference. In any case of justifiable homicide involving the police, they would argue that all three aspects of the deadly force triangle you've presented were present:
- Capability: The officer saw and object in the suspects hand that they believed was a weapon
- Opportunity... | 6i8kcb | CMV: the defense of "I was afraid for my life" should not be sufficient (on its own) to justify a law enforcement officer shooting someone. | This is an issue that is all over the news lately, with a lot of strong opinions on every side. I want to be very clear that while certain specific cases of recent police shootings may come up in discussion as examples, this is not a CMV about how any one police shooting went down or what the legal consequences should ... | john_gee | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Before Criticizing China for stealing data, we should acknowledge we did the same to Great Britain
I want to make it abundantly clear that I am not excusing China's actions. Just that we should acknowledge it to prevent hypocrisy.
Many of you may not be aware that the US stole textile manufacturing secrets from ... | I think you might be missing the point of international politics. Maybe you have been snookered by propaganda that tries to paint it as cooperative and humanitarian, but in reality it's very much a competative endeavor, and most people understand this at a base level.
What you're saying here is a little bit like bein... | What view are we supposed to change here?
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Any part that you see fit.
I brought this up another time in a separate thread, and the reply was
>Are you descended from the Americans who stole textile production secrets from England? Are they your great-great-grandfathers and the source of your family wealth?
If ... | nganby | CMV: Before Criticizing China for stealing data, we should acknowledge we did the same to Great Britain | I want to make it abundantly clear that I am not excusing China's actions. Just that we should acknowledge it to prevent hypocrisy.
Many of you may not be aware that the US stole textile manufacturing secrets from Great Britain as we were rising to power. Textiles were a huge market at the time, comparable to tech tod... | mr-wiggle-fingers | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Coffee is just tea
Tea is the infusion of flavors from dried, and treated, parts of plants. Teas include not just drinks made from leaves of tea plants, but herbs, spices and other flavors as well. Some herbal teas include the cooking or roasting of plant matter. Coffee beans are plant parts which are treated in ... | By this definition, is every drink actually just a tea? Wine is plant matter in water, apple juice is just plant matter in water, maple syrup is just plant matter in water...
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I would suggest that wine is fermented, teas are not. Juices are the liquids from a plant, not made by drying plant matter and steeping it... | Coffee is made from beans of plants.
Tea is made from leaves of plants.
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I have herbal teas that are made with various seed pods, roots, flowers, and so forth. Not all teas are made with leaves and some herbal blends contain no leaf products at all.
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> Not all teas are made with leaves and some herbal blend... | 5qicju | CMV: Coffee is just tea | Tea is the infusion of flavors from dried, and treated, parts of plants. Teas include not just drinks made from leaves of tea plants, but herbs, spices and other flavors as well. Some herbal teas include the cooking or roasting of plant matter. Coffee beans are plant parts which are treated in an identical manner.
So... | kingpatzer | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I think concealed carry makes sense for a lot of people
Just some relevant background: I live in Florida, USA, where I own and use firearms as a hobby. I love shooting sports, and I'm pretty good with just about anything in my collection. I also work on guns occasionally--I once converted a Russian sporter Saiga... | If we give the black swan hypothetical any weight, we need to give equal weight to the possibility that you could:
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It’s wild how so many Americans act like unfettered access to firearms is literally the *only* thing separating the USA from a place like China.
The rest of the developed world has freedom too.
Never mind the fact that a majority of those gun owners would probably take the side of the tyrants as long ... | vnj8f4 | CMV: I think concealed carry makes sense for a lot of people | Just some relevant background: I live in Florida, USA, where I own and use firearms as a hobby. I love shooting sports, and I'm pretty good with just about anything in my collection. I also work on guns occasionally--I once converted a Russian sporter Saiga into a modernized AKM rifle (made some money on that one). I'... | d1rty_3lb0w5 | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: Convicted child rapists should be given the most severe punishment available, in all countries and states across the globe
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Imo they (The BOP) needs to be as hands off as possible. Stick a dude in gen pop with a sign on his forehead that says "child molestor" and turn off the cameras.
But it does work just fine now.
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CMV: UFC fighters and the like need to be weighed right before stepping into a ring
I don't understand how people think it is okay for fighters to rest and practice at 20 pounds above their titled weight, only to miss the weight with the fight going on anyways, the win usually going to the guy who had more weight. It ... | Now you are asking fighters to fight dehydrated. That's more dangerous than asking them to fight after dehydrating then rehydrating themselves. There's going to be more deaths from dehydration/electrolyte imbalance and more concussions...
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I misspoke then if that's what you got out of it, fighters need to be at ... | Michigan high school wrestling used to have weigh in right before matches, but now does it the day before. This was changed because people were still cutting the weight but didn’t have the time to recover and were wrestling dehydrated and it wasn’t a good time for anyone (I don’t know if they had more injuries or what ... | 92okfi | CMV: UFC fighters and the like need to be weighed right before stepping into a ring | I don't understand how people think it is okay for fighters to rest and practice at 20 pounds above their titled weight, only to miss the weight with the fight going on anyways, the win usually going to the guy who had more weight. It isn't just a problem at high levels where doctor's supervision is possible to cut wei... | Mushwoo | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: it should be way WAY easier to evict a tenant
It can take the courts up to six months to put a person through the legal process to evict a tenant. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that we protect people who are willing to sit and not pay rent because they feel entitled to a property they refuse to pay for. Squa... | Let's say I am your landlord. I falsely claim you didn't pay rent. Or I am truly evil and tell you I will evict you unless you pay me extra money in cash in addition to your rent. So I evict you unjustly.
You have a slam dunk legal case . You kept the bank records showing you paid me rent and could easily prove I am... | I mean it's the proof part that takes as long as it does, to prove it you have to go to court and that's a long and drawn out process.
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Often times if you can show a cop evidence specifically camera evidence they will arrest criminals on the spot. I don't see why this wouldn't apply to tenants.
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Arresting som... | dyqkec | CMV: it should be way WAY easier to evict a tenant | It can take the courts up to six months to put a person through the legal process to evict a tenant. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that we protect people who are willing to sit and not pay rent because they feel entitled to a property they refuse to pay for. Squatter's rights are even worse. There was a r/legaladv... | Diylion | 3 | 3 | [
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It can take the courts up to six months to put a person through the legal process to evict a tenant. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that we protect people who are willing to sit and not pay rent because they feel entitled to a property they refuse to pay for. Squa... | Let's say I am your landlord. I falsely claim you didn't pay rent. Or I am truly evil and tell you I will evict you unless you pay me extra money in cash in addition to your rent. So I evict you unjustly.
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CMV: We shouldn't rely on paper identification in this day and age
One argument people bring up is: paper works everywhere, what if you find yourself at a random border crossing in Africa? Sure. Then I agree (in that case, why not both) , but this post is for the developed, technologically advanced countries, US, Cana... | It costs too much. Every hotel, every business, they will all need to have a face scanner installed.
Instead, let's just have them look at our paper passport that has enough security in it for it not to be easily faked at all. For that little bit of extra trouble of having to carry it around and getting a new one when... | > Facial recognition is 99.5% accurate these days and there is 0 reason to not make it widely available.
So 1 in 200 times a person will get misidentified as someone else? That seems rather frequent, and would mean that everyone would still need to bring some other form of ID, e.g. especially if they're a frequent fl... | tkef5d | CMV: We shouldn't rely on paper identification in this day and age | One argument people bring up is: paper works everywhere, what if you find yourself at a random border crossing in Africa? Sure. Then I agree (in that case, why not both) , but this post is for the developed, technologically advanced countries, US, Canada, Europe etc.
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CMV: According to Trump's own estimates: Trump is Bad at Business
**What I mean: **
*At the time of the election, we had all the information required to conclude that Donald Trump is most likely below average at making money. At least according to his own reports - but also according to others estimates of it. *
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Given the performance of a typical retirement fund over this same period, or a simple index fund (like the S&P 500) over this same period, an average performer would have turned each dollar into $40. Given Trump's starting point, he should be worth $20B. A far cry from even his most ostentatious claim.
This assumes... | There was a market crash and recession in February 1982 and the Dow Jones dropped to the lowest it had been since 1950.
http://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart
You can't just pick a date with the worst recession in 30 years as the date to judge growth by. It's obvious looking in hindsight... | 6ourtk | CMV: According to Trump's own estimates: Trump is Bad at Business | **What I mean: **
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**What I mean: **
*At the time of the election, we had all the information required to conclude that Donald Trump is most likely below average at making money. At least according to his own reports - but also according to others estimates of it. *
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Given the performance of a typical retirement fund over this same period, or a simple index fund (like the S&P 500) over this same period, an average performer would have turned each dollar into $40. Given Trump's starting point, he should be worth $20B. A far cry from even his most ostentatious claim.
This assumes... | There was a market crash and recession in February 1982 and the Dow Jones dropped to the lowest it had been since 1950.
http://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart
You can't just pick a date with the worst recession in 30 years as the date to judge growth by. It's obvious looking in hindsight... | 6ourtk | CMV: According to Trump's own estimates: Trump is Bad at Business | **What I mean: **
*At the time of the election, we had all the information required to conclude that Donald Trump is most likely below average at making money. At least according to his own reports - but also according to others estimates of it. *
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CMV: I believe the killing of animals just for their fur should be banned
The practice of killing animals solely for their fur is something I oppose, yet despite all the evidence of cruelty in the fur industry, fur comes back, goes out of fashion and comes back again. Despite advancements in ethics and animal welfare,... | It is worth noting that coats are made from American Minks which are not endangered at all (classified as "least concern") and the conditions you describe are also true for many modern farm animals as is the environmental degradation factor.
So my clarifying question is, unless this is actually just a trojan horse ... | Why do you see a cow being eaten and their skin leather used as different? Is it not objectivly the same?
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I would argue it is not objectively the same as in one case people are eating meat and in the other 40 animals are killed to make one luxury garment. Both the reason the animals are killed, and how many are k... | 1os0x9b | CMV: I believe the killing of animals just for their fur should be banned | The practice of killing animals solely for their fur is something I oppose, yet despite all the evidence of cruelty in the fur industry, fur comes back, goes out of fashion and comes back again. Despite advancements in ethics and animal welfare, this inhumane practice persists, driven primarily by the fashion industry ... | LongCancel2104 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Feminism is incompatible with the nuclear family, in an American context
I believe strongly that the individual is the correct unit by which to organize a society, not the nuclear family.
It seems like modern feminism can't seem to break free of the binary of the choice between work and children. Essays like "Wh... | [deleted]
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Someone arguing for the benefits of the nuclear family seems like one way my mind could be changed. Or arguing my definition of feminism is flawed.
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Well at this stage, children from a 2-parent home appear to be better off in every recorded area (education, mental and physical health, adult poverty... | >If you do want a family and you're a feminist, look for a man willing to be a stay-at-home dad.
Doesn't this statement disprove your thesis in the title? The point of feminism is to give women equal opportunities as men and abolish the _gender_ aspect of traditional gender roles - not necessarily abolish the roles t... | lpvqqn | CMV: Feminism is incompatible with the nuclear family, in an American context | I believe strongly that the individual is the correct unit by which to organize a society, not the nuclear family.
It seems like modern feminism can't seem to break free of the binary of the choice between work and children. Essays like "Why Women Still Can't Have It All" by Anne-Marie Slaughter point out the systemat... | sylphiae | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Everyone is a hypocrite—left, right, feminist, men’s rights activists. Everyone fights for their views but acts like the other side having a view somehow invalidates theirs.
I’ve noticed that people on all sides of any debate seem to have the same problem. They push for their own ideas, but the second someone dis... | Why do you wish to have this view changed? It is true ever since the beginning of time, one side will push for its own, the other for its own, and they might just kill each other on the way.
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OP is completely incorrect. It is obviously true that people have different views that contradict each other, but arguing ... | Is the hypocrite in the room with us now?
In all seriousness, just because there are bad actors in various groups doesn't mean everyone in that group is a bad actor.
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I would argue that. It’s probably a minority who aren’t bias and that minority is extremely quite while the bad actors do all the talking so does i... | 1h4yfok | CMV: Everyone is a hypocrite—left, right, feminist, men’s rights activists. Everyone fights for their views but acts like the other side having a view somehow invalidates theirs. | I’ve noticed that people on all sides of any debate seem to have the same problem. They push for their own ideas, but the second someone disagrees, they act like that person’s opinion isn’t allowed to exist.
For example, the left says they want tolerance, but they’re quick to shut down conservative views. The right ta... | Any-Prize3748 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: COPPA is bullshit. If it's OK to collect data on adults, it should be OK to collect data on children
The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, or COPPA, forbids social media companies from collecting the data of children without explicit parental consent. Users don't normally give explicit consent for compani... | >Users don't normally give explicit consent for companies to collect their own data, so why should explicit consent be expected for children?
Users *do* give explicit consent insofar as any sign-up is required. They are saying they agree to a ToS that is given (though not often read) during signup.
The fundemental i... | >A child does not stand the risk of having his or her reputation ruined by compromising data on their search history.
What about the child's future reputation as an adult?
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What about an adult's *current* reputation as an adult? Whose reputation do you think will face greater ruin if there was a data leak? An adu... | enhag3 | CMV: COPPA is bullshit. If it's OK to collect data on adults, it should be OK to collect data on children | The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, or COPPA, forbids social media companies from collecting the data of children without explicit parental consent. Users don't normally give explicit consent for companies to collect their own data, so why should explicit consent be expected for children?
If anything, priva... | SocraticBadger | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Dan Schneider (Drake and Josh, iCarly, Victorious, etc.) doesn’t deserve to be called a sexual predator
For years every time there’s a thread about one of the shows he created, the top comment is about how much of a pedo creep he is. The issue is there is absolutely no allegations of sexual misconduct on his part... | I don't disagree with much of what you're saying, but this part...
> We live in a post-#MeToo world where some of the most powerful people have been taken down due to sexual allegations. I just don’t see Dan Schneider having the ability to silence every single actor that has been on his shows over the years. A lot of... | [deleted]
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A lot of kids do find foot jokes funny, even if you and I don’t. Kid’s comedy is limited by what they’re allowed to say, so they have less jokes to work with. Feet was Dan’s shows version of a fart joke, which his shows didn’t have many of.
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[deleted] | tkcn7b | CMV: Dan Schneider (Drake and Josh, iCarly, Victorious, etc.) doesn’t deserve to be called a sexual predator | For years every time there’s a thread about one of the shows he created, the top comment is about how much of a pedo creep he is. The issue is there is absolutely no allegations of sexual misconduct on his part.
Not from Ariana Grande, one of the biggest pop stars in the world. Not from Jamie Lynn Spears, notable att... | mtanderson | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Israel are the "good guys" and many of the statements about genocide and other issues are not actually true or factual.
Let's start with the obvious. Yes, I am pro-Israel. No, I don't think Palistine shouldn't exist. I think innocent people on both sides die. I believe much of Hamas's tactics should be the subjec... | >They know IDF has to fire back at some point and will inevitably end up killing innocent people because of their shield tactics.
So first off, the idea of 'human shields' has been studied by organizations such as UNHCR and found to be largely bullshit. It sometimes was a tactic used during the intifada, specifically ... | U know when the enemy uses a human shield but barely can hurt u with the rockets ur the bad guy for firing at those humans.
Israel is in a enormous power position and abuses it in order to „defend“ themselves.
Hamas works just like a terror group, they are somewhat dezentralized and can’t be fought with bombs. Ju... | nfycf3 | CMV: Israel are the "good guys" and many of the statements about genocide and other issues are not actually true or factual. | Let's start with the obvious. Yes, I am pro-Israel. No, I don't think Palistine shouldn't exist. I think innocent people on both sides die. I believe much of Hamas's tactics should be the subject of controversy as they use people's deaths on purpose knowing full well having human shields causes death. They know IDF has... | zfreakazoidz | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Israel are the "good guys" and many of the statements about genocide and other issues are not actually true or factual.
Let's start with the obvious. Yes, I am pro-Israel. No, I don't think Palistine shouldn't exist. I think innocent people on both sides die. I believe much of Hamas's tactics should be the subjec... | >They know IDF has to fire back at some point and will inevitably end up killing innocent people because of their shield tactics.
So first off, the idea of 'human shields' has been studied by organizations such as UNHCR and found to be largely bullshit. It sometimes was a tactic used during the intifada, specifically ... | U know when the enemy uses a human shield but barely can hurt u with the rockets ur the bad guy for firing at those humans.
Israel is in a enormous power position and abuses it in order to „defend“ themselves.
Hamas works just like a terror group, they are somewhat dezentralized and can’t be fought with bombs. Ju... | nfycf3 | CMV: Israel are the "good guys" and many of the statements about genocide and other issues are not actually true or factual. | Let's start with the obvious. Yes, I am pro-Israel. No, I don't think Palistine shouldn't exist. I think innocent people on both sides die. I believe much of Hamas's tactics should be the subject of controversy as they use people's deaths on purpose knowing full well having human shields causes death. They know IDF has... | zfreakazoidz | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Israel are the "good guys" and many of the statements about genocide and other issues are not actually true or factual.
Let's start with the obvious. Yes, I am pro-Israel. No, I don't think Palistine shouldn't exist. I think innocent people on both sides die. I believe much of Hamas's tactics should be the subjec... | So you're aware you're linking an organization specifically designed to justify Israel, whose primary donor is someone very much in favor of Israel settling the West Bank, right?
I'm not going to say whether the article is right or not (mainly because I don't want to argue against an article), but it is an incredibly ... | U know when the enemy uses a human shield but barely can hurt u with the rockets ur the bad guy for firing at those humans.
Israel is in a enormous power position and abuses it in order to „defend“ themselves.
Hamas works just like a terror group, they are somewhat dezentralized and can’t be fought with bombs. Ju... | nfycf3 | CMV: Israel are the "good guys" and many of the statements about genocide and other issues are not actually true or factual. | Let's start with the obvious. Yes, I am pro-Israel. No, I don't think Palistine shouldn't exist. I think innocent people on both sides die. I believe much of Hamas's tactics should be the subject of controversy as they use people's deaths on purpose knowing full well having human shields causes death. They know IDF has... | zfreakazoidz | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Roe V Wade may be bad for freedom however it is good for democracy
I'm not interested in whether the overturning is right or wrong morally, as a pro choice atheist I personally think it is completely wrong however I have been questioning this for awhile. Sorry there have been allot of roe v Wade posts it must be ... | >So if different states have the ability to vote on the ban of abortion isn't that good for democracy?
That's the real question, isn't it?
People who feel that the ability to control one's own body is a fundamental right don't think that rights should be dependent on what state you happen to live in. If body auto... | The country already isn't democratic. The president is often elected by a minority of voters, and the Senate tends to represent a minority as well. And SCOTUS is also dominated by judges who were appointed by people who represented the minority of voters. So what democracy are you talking about, exactly?
That said,... | vnpggd | CMV: Roe V Wade may be bad for freedom however it is good for democracy | I'm not interested in whether the overturning is right or wrong morally, as a pro choice atheist I personally think it is completely wrong however I have been questioning this for awhile. Sorry there have been allot of roe v Wade posts it must be boring but I haven't been able to get this off my mind :/
So if differen... | Missiololo | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: If there’s a cigarette tax there should be a fast food tax.
I am not a smoker but in Oregon we recently voted on upping the cigarette tax (I didn’t) and I find the whole thing rather ridiculous. Seems more political than scientific considering salt and sugar cause heart disease most of the time. Why can people ov... | I think you already answered the question yourself. It’s much easier to place an excise tax on something like cigarettes that don’t serve any actual human need. Taxing food is much more complicated. People need food, and putting a tax on the foods that are most easily accessible for poor people becomes a regressive tax... | To be fair, someone's Big Mac can't give you secondhand fat
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Outside?
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Yep
> "For example, if you're at a sidewalk café, and you sit within 18 inches of a person who smokes two cigarettes over the course of an hour, your exposure to secondhand smoke could be the same as if you sat one hour inside a tavern w... | lptnk2 | CMV: If there’s a cigarette tax there should be a fast food tax. | I am not a smoker but in Oregon we recently voted on upping the cigarette tax (I didn’t) and I find the whole thing rather ridiculous. Seems more political than scientific considering salt and sugar cause heart disease most of the time. Why can people over indulge in terrible food without tax repercussions? I understan... | SommelierYaw | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Iran Is A Terrorist Country
I don’t fuck with Iran at all. I’m not talking about their people, I have absolutely nothing against their race or any race as a matter of fact. I am actually talking about their government.
Their government is Theocratic, that kind of government fucks any country over. Their laws ar... | Iran has arguably provided a little bit of shelter to Al Qaeda. But generally they have killed Al Qaeda members. They also were one of the most successful forces opposing ISIS.
If you consider Iran a terrorist country, you certainly ought to consider Saudi Arabia where a huge portion of the funding for Al Qaeda and I... | Al-qaeda are Sunni Muslims, Iranians are Shiite.
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Pretty sure they’re Shia. lol
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia\_Islam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam)
> **Shia Islam** ([/ˈʃiːə/](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English); [Arabic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language): شِيعَة... | enhyvn | CMV: Iran Is A Terrorist Country | I don’t fuck with Iran at all. I’m not talking about their people, I have absolutely nothing against their race or any race as a matter of fact. I am actually talking about their government.
Their government is Theocratic, that kind of government fucks any country over. Their laws are based on religious beliefs, not ... | irishkarki11 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Police shouldn't be armed with guns but instead batons, and they should be allowed to whoop a criminal if they're caught for commiting a crime.
Before I get hate for this, hear me out. My point of view on this topic is something I'm definitely willing to change. My view is that when police arrest a criminal, that... | as long as you're volunteering to be whooped first by the police and their batons, I'll consider your theory.
also, it seems your whole theory relies on your claim that if they're arrested they'll have a criminal record. this is not true. at all.
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Why would I get whooped by police if I haven't committed a crim... | I like how they’re separate from society. Just like a parent isn’t on the same level as a child.
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Yeah, but criminals should be treated as the children, while the police and law abiding citizens are on the same level, instead of this current state where it feels like the police are above the law abiding citizens t... | dydt2e | CMV: Police shouldn't be armed with guns but instead batons, and they should be allowed to whoop a criminal if they're caught for commiting a crime. | Before I get hate for this, hear me out. My point of view on this topic is something I'm definitely willing to change. My view is that when police arrest a criminal, that person who was arrested is essentially going to receive a criminal record which will in a lot of cases ruin their life and their future. I thought ab... | Dinger1000 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Schools should start at a time that allows them to get out 15-30 minutes after the average worker is done with work
The average high school starts between 7:45am and 8:15am, and releases between 3:00pm and 3:30pm. This is wrong for a lot of reasons, but I think that the focus should be more on the release time th... | Most students are expected to participate in extracurricular activities such as clubs and sports so they actually release closer to 5 pm. Allowing them freedom to grow and explore is as important as shoving them in a controlled environment. Its also not really the government's job to keep them out of shenanigans unless... | How do you feel about kids who have sports or other after school activities. Maybe you don't care at all but kids would be getting home at like 7:00 in this case. Does this really sound acceptable?
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Why can't students come before school for those same extracurriculars? As it stands now, there are 0 hour classes in... | vnf8lc | CMV: Schools should start at a time that allows them to get out 15-30 minutes after the average worker is done with work | The average high school starts between 7:45am and 8:15am, and releases between 3:00pm and 3:30pm. This is wrong for a lot of reasons, but I think that the focus should be more on the release time than the time that kids get to school. A lot of the articles I've seen that critique the start and dismissal times focus on ... | I_am_ur_daddy | 2 | 2 | [
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