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CMV: Social Darwinism is the logical conclusion of evolution.
The weeding out of the weak and burdensome is a natural result of biological evolution. As the weeding out continues, the species elevates itself, to the point where consciousness, as incredibly complex as it is, is possible in humans. Given this, why would... | The science of evolution only tells us "this has happened" and "this is how it happened." It doesn't ascribe morality. It would make as much sense to say that tearing down every building is the logical conclusion of the concept of gravity.
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>It would make as much sense to say that tearing down every building is th... | > Given this, why would the following **not** be consistent with what every species does already, by default?
Why would we do anything to expedite our evolution? We don't really need to evolve.
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I'm not claiming we do need to evolve. I'm simply claiming social Darwinism is conceptually more consistent with evolu... | 5oufxq | CMV: Social Darwinism is the logical conclusion of evolution. | The weeding out of the weak and burdensome is a natural result of biological evolution. As the weeding out continues, the species elevates itself, to the point where consciousness, as incredibly complex as it is, is possible in humans. Given this, why would the following **not** be consistent with what every species do... | ArtAndFilmAccount | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Las Vegas store owner who stabbed a robber used disproportionate force
To understand the full context, search for something along the lines of "Las Vegas store owner stabs robbers" and watch the full video in its entirety.
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From my perspective, in the video you can see the robber jumping over the co... | > Do we truly want to live in a country where people are demanding the death penalty for petty crime akin to places like Saudi Arabia?
The bar for self defense is necessarily different than the bar for the justice system. The justice system has all the time it needs to collect evidence, evaluate it, judge it against t... | The store owner had every reason to believe that the robbers were armed, in view of the bags they were carrying and the ski masks covering their faces. Lethal force was clearly called for. The idea that he should have tried to escape and just let them rob his store is ridiculous. In a civilized society you don't get to... | ycm7uh | CMV: The Las Vegas store owner who stabbed a robber used disproportionate force | To understand the full context, search for something along the lines of "Las Vegas store owner stabs robbers" and watch the full video in its entirety.
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From my perspective, in the video you can see the robber jumping over the counter and directing his full attention to the merchandise. The store owner then q... | General_West | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Anyone working a full-time job should be paid enough to support themselves.
So for me the above held opinion is straight-forward common sense. What this means is that a person should be able to afford a mortgage, food, water, clothing, and anything else which would otherwise put them below the poverty line, e.g. ... | Jobs are created when a business needs productive labor done. Labor is a commodity with a price attached to it. It's an expense to be managed by the business, paid for out of it's own revenue.
People being employed is a positive externality of this need, and one that drives our entire system.
Now, to your later poin... | I think bringing actual numbers into your argument would make it more palatable, personally.
That aside, pay is directly related to how much value you bring. That’s it. I think people who call them “student jobs” call them student jobs because of how much value they have and bring. To support a family, you should be ... | cd38ol | CMV: Anyone working a full-time job should be paid enough to support themselves. | So for me the above held opinion is straight-forward common sense. What this means is that a person should be able to afford a mortgage, food, water, clothing, and anything else which would otherwise put them below the poverty line, e.g. internet connection and electricity, working only what we as society have defined ... | Birb-Brain-Syn | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Euthanasia should be legal because we deserve the dignity of a peaceful death > long term suffering
In my opinion, adults who are competent (e.g. conscious, doesnt have alzheimers, sober) should be allowed to elect euthanasia as a solution for intense and long lasting suffering. It's more inhumane to make people ... | How would you prevent temporarily suicidal people getting euthanized? Someone who thinks their life is over because they lost their job, their SO, etc may want to die for a week, but they would eventually come out of it.
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I imagine no doctor would approve dying over week long feelings, and would instead recommend ... | The issue here is how corrupted it would become ; for example, a disabled patient whom children want killed to pocket the inheritance, and who agree to split the benefits with their doctors. Or, death doctors who, on the basis of their own morality, decide to sign for someone's euthanasia regardless of their chances of... | gq7qm3 | CMV: Euthanasia should be legal because we deserve the dignity of a peaceful death > long term suffering | In my opinion, adults who are competent (e.g. conscious, doesnt have alzheimers, sober) should be allowed to elect euthanasia as a solution for intense and long lasting suffering. It's more inhumane to make people suffer for years, especially to illnesses like cancer, rather than have a peaceful death on their own term... | IndigoImperatrix | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Suicide is neutral and thus should never be fought against. Respect those decisions! We need more respect in this world!
If someone decides to take their own life, that is their decision. Respect that, people! It really sucks to realize so many people want to force other people, brainwash them to keep them living... | When someone who is drunk wants to drive we should respect that decision!
When someone who's on bath salts wants to run naked in the streets we should respect that decision!
How about no?
Supporting those decisions is ludicrous. And the same goes for suicide.
Depression, whatever the cause causes people to be su... | I'd argue that you were more than just you. What about your friends and particularly family in shaping who you are? Are they not entitled to an opinion as they are part of you as you are a part of them?
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Yes they are, that is why I agree with talking someone out of depression. But the moment they say they tried to... | 5ow21d | CMV: Suicide is neutral and thus should never be fought against. Respect those decisions! We need more respect in this world! | If someone decides to take their own life, that is their decision. Respect that, people! It really sucks to realize so many people want to force other people, brainwash them to keep them living for their own satisfaction and pleasure. And this IS something I never understood, how can be people so selfish, to the point ... | Garlicplanet | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Suicide is neutral and thus should never be fought against. Respect those decisions! We need more respect in this world!
If someone decides to take their own life, that is their decision. Respect that, people! It really sucks to realize so many people want to force other people, brainwash them to keep them living... | I'd argue that you were more than just you. What about your friends and particularly family in shaping who you are? Are they not entitled to an opinion as they are part of you as you are a part of them?
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Yes they are, that is why I agree with talking someone out of depression. But the moment they say they tried to... | Is suicide always neutral? Are there any lines? Because if there are situations where it isn't neutral, than suicide as a general concept cannot be neutral.
For instance, I wouldn't say that the decision of a parent with small children to end their life would be neutral. They have responsibilities towards their childre... | 5ow21d | CMV: Suicide is neutral and thus should never be fought against. Respect those decisions! We need more respect in this world! | If someone decides to take their own life, that is their decision. Respect that, people! It really sucks to realize so many people want to force other people, brainwash them to keep them living for their own satisfaction and pleasure. And this IS something I never understood, how can be people so selfish, to the point ... | Garlicplanet | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Bathing suits (for men) shouldn't have pockets
Most men bathing suits have at least one pocket, yet I can't understand what benefits they have.
Firstly, when swimming, most things in your pocket will fall off so it doesn't make sense to store objects in your pockets.
Secondly, when visiting the beach, the pocke... | Many people wear their swim (board shorts) trunks on all day. So I might wear them while driving to the pool, swimming and on the way back. In that case, having pockets for my wallet, phone and keys is essential.
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If you need to store your keys, wallet and phone somewhere else when swimming, why not store them the... | Streamline bathing suits exist for men, they do make swimming more pleasant.
But I'm not always swimming in a bathing suit, summers as a kid I would wear my swimming shorts all the time and go swimming almost daily. Then I would dry off, put things in my pockets again and do something else without needing to change or... | gq74dj | CMV: Bathing suits (for men) shouldn't have pockets | Most men bathing suits have at least one pocket, yet I can't understand what benefits they have.
Firstly, when swimming, most things in your pocket will fall off so it doesn't make sense to store objects in your pockets.
Secondly, when visiting the beach, the pockets will fill up with sand and it will leave a trail o... | DaBassDud | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: In the current state of international relations, The US nuclear arsenal is redundant and possibly detrimental to military strategy.
Strategically, logistically, and diplomatically, nuclear weapons are useless or worse. Ignoring the cost to maintain the Minuteman and similar ICBM systems and sea and air-based nucl... | It's a game. Make sure everyone has good reason to stay friendly and if not friendly, then keep them from being hostile.
>Everyone is in everyone else's pants, pockets, and boardrooms;
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[removed] | 5zj29b | CMV: In the current state of international relations, The US nuclear arsenal is redundant and possibly detrimental to military strategy. | Strategically, logistically, and diplomatically, nuclear weapons are useless or worse. Ignoring the cost to maintain the Minuteman and similar ICBM systems and sea and air-based nuclear capabilities, there are no enemies against which we could ever feasibly use nuclear weapons, and everyone knows it. The reason is glob... | wanderingbilby | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: When discussing the existence of a God and an afterlife being agnostic is the only rational way of talking about it.
Edit: Do people downvote me because of my view? Instead of trying to change it?
Edit 2: Thank you all for the comments! Very, very interesting stuff to talk about!
Edit 3: I can't engage in any... | >You can’t prove that something supernatural does not exist.
No, however you can point to a lack of evidence(as well as contradicting supportive evidence) to determine the likelihood of something existing.
Someone can also hold an atheistic view until they are presented with evidence to support religious or agnostic... | This can be easily answered by [Russell's Teapot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot)
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This is interesting! But I still think agnosticism is the most rational view in regards to the existence of God.
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Which God? | 5pyfoz | CMV: When discussing the existence of a God and an afterlife being agnostic is the only rational way of talking about it. | Edit: Do people downvote me because of my view? Instead of trying to change it?
Edit 2: Thank you all for the comments! Very, very interesting stuff to talk about!
Edit 3: I can't engage in any more discussions, as I have to sleep. Good night good people!
Forgive me if I have misunderstood some philosophical views... | kevai | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: America should switch to rank-choice voting because it would drastically improve the nation
Rank-Choice voting would make current politics significantly better and it should be implemented. My evidence for rank-choice voting being an overall extreme net-positive can probably be summed up in a few points.(1) **Cit... | The flaw with preferential balloting is that it eliminates choice in the end.
It draws parties into centralist, non- controversial policy.
I'll use an example, in Canada there are 3 parties. Let's say that the centralist party, the Liberals, hold power half the time and other parties hold the other half (not the re... | FPTP is good for keeping extremists marginalized. In the US, it is virtually impossible for a third party, like libertarians or the greens, to win anything. None the less a nazi party or communist party.
Rank choice voting eliminates the spoiler effect that keeps them isolated.
IMO, either keep the system as is, or h... | k694h8 | CMV: America should switch to rank-choice voting because it would drastically improve the nation | Rank-Choice voting would make current politics significantly better and it should be implemented. My evidence for rank-choice voting being an overall extreme net-positive can probably be summed up in a few points.(1) **Citizens vote for who/what they want, they don't have to compromise**. With the current voting system... | BobTheFlaming0 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The USA should have open immigration, but high taxes on non-citizens.
Deporting immigrants doesn't work. After they are deported, they can just climb the ladder over the wall and be in the USA again. Jail time for people who are found guilty of illegal immigration is a waste of resources. Immigration is a victiml... | How would you tax an undocumented immigrant?
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Same way they tax everyone else, but at a higher rate.
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but if they work under the table and don't pay taxes... because they came here in a way the government doesn't know about them... you can't tax them. what about instead recognizing that they fill a roll in th... | This post has got a lot wrong with it. First of all, how are you going to tax people who are in this country without anyone knowing about them? Your ideology seems to fit more with a system that would just make immigration easier, which is what I think the solution is. What reasons would you give against just making it... | gq3rcn | CMV: The USA should have open immigration, but high taxes on non-citizens. | Deporting immigrants doesn't work. After they are deported, they can just climb the ladder over the wall and be in the USA again. Jail time for people who are found guilty of illegal immigration is a waste of resources. Immigration is a victimless crime.
If non-citizens were taxed enough to remove the incentive of imm... | KungFuDabu | 7 | 7 | [
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cmv: No, you are not the granddaughters or the witches that were burned
Edit: Don't take my words literally, I don't actually think that it's one big ass family tree. Please just debate the actual statement, I can't debate whether or not I'm soapboxing or whatever it is. I'm not perfect and I have fallacies that I did... | I think you're taking 'granddaughters' too literally, maybe?
It's just referencing generations, not actual bloodlines.
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Hopefully, someone can change my mind that witchcraft had legitimate believers that were affected by the Salem Witch Trials, or that the heritage of witches has traces back to that event
Edit: damn, I got downvoted for answering a question that someone asked
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Witchcraft only goes back to Gardner's... | ycbf7r | cmv: No, you are not the granddaughters or the witches that were burned | Edit: Don't take my words literally, I don't actually think that it's one big ass family tree. Please just debate the actual statement, I can't debate whether or not I'm soapboxing or whatever it is. I'm not perfect and I have fallacies that I didn't previously know existed. I'm doing my best, but it's not helping when... | myooted | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: American democracy has failed.
This morning, the news is filled with Democrats including the Speaker of the House saying that yes, the President of the United States has committed crimes and continues to do so, but they can't impeach him because it would be politically damaging to do so.
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We have a crim... | >The president could decide to end voting, or jail his competition, or simply steal enough to cripple our economy
Your view is built on a false premise. He can't do any of these things.
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We have a criminal in charge of America. He is act... | RemusShepherd | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: American democracy has failed.
This morning, the news is filled with Democrats including the Speaker of the House saying that yes, the President of the United States has committed crimes and continues to do so, but they can't impeach him because it would be politically damaging to do so.
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We have a crim... | What kinds of crime he committed? just asking.
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Too many to go into here; lists can be found all over the internet. The provable ones are obstruction, campaign finance violations, and emoluments. The ones that have not yet been proven are perjury, tax and insurance fraud, and conspiracy (collusion).
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Obstru... | I apologize in advance because this is not really getting at the core of your concern but this is actually evidence that democracy is working, democracy being the representation of the will of the people. If there is a well supported political fear of impeaching the president even if they are a criminal then that is b... | b07u85 | CMV: American democracy has failed. | This morning, the news is filled with Democrats including the Speaker of the House saying that yes, the President of the United States has committed crimes and continues to do so, but they can't impeach him because it would be politically damaging to do so.
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We have a criminal in charge of America. He is act... | RemusShepherd | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: American democracy has failed.
This morning, the news is filled with Democrats including the Speaker of the House saying that yes, the President of the United States has committed crimes and continues to do so, but they can't impeach him because it would be politically damaging to do so.
​
We have a crim... | >The president could decide to end voting, or jail his competition, or simply steal enough to cripple our economy
Your view is built on a false premise. He can't do any of these things.
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Trump is constantly talking about how something should be done with Hillary, or the Democrats' obstruction. His followers c... | >We have a criminal in charge of America.
Every president of the US since WWII has committed war crimes or was complicit in it. Obama expanded the drone program which is illegal under international war. Trump's entourage is made up of war criminals like Elliot Abrams and John Bolton that were already in such positions... | b07u85 | CMV: American democracy has failed. | This morning, the news is filled with Democrats including the Speaker of the House saying that yes, the President of the United States has committed crimes and continues to do so, but they can't impeach him because it would be politically damaging to do so.
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CMV: Male promiscuity is associated with increased agency in life
I think straight male promiscuity is associated with an increased agency in life. Being more in control and able to do what you want. I think this is the case because compared to other groups getting into the lifestyle is much more difficult for them. I... | I've always seen male promiscuity associated with immaturity, and it's often tied to "all men cheat" or something similar.
Also go check out the Mayo clinic's website- promiscuity is a symptom of a *lot* of mental illnesses.
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> I've always seen male promiscuity associated with immaturity, and it's often tied to "... | >I think straight male promiscuity is associated with an increased agency in life.
I think it is as simple as "Men don't get pregnant". You can have as much sex as you want as a man, and can theoretically never think of each sexual encounter again. Women who are able to become pregnant cannot do this. There is always ... | ycbhrg | CMV: Male promiscuity is associated with increased agency in life | I think straight male promiscuity is associated with an increased agency in life. Being more in control and able to do what you want. I think this is the case because compared to other groups getting into the lifestyle is much more difficult for them. I don't have any view one way or the other on other groups for this ... | their-holiness | 5 | 5 | [
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I think straight male promiscuity is associated with an increased agency in life. Being more in control and able to do what you want. I think this is the case because compared to other groups getting into the lifestyle is much more difficult for them. I... | Can you define the floor and ceiling in this context for promiscuity and monogamy?
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Floor is the worst situation you can have, ceiling is the best situation you can have.
Floor of monogamy is having a bad relationship, ceiling of monogamy is having a good relationship. Floor of promiscuity is having nothing, cei... | >I think straight male promiscuity is associated with an increased agency in life.
I think it is as simple as "Men don't get pregnant". You can have as much sex as you want as a man, and can theoretically never think of each sexual encounter again. Women who are able to become pregnant cannot do this. There is always ... | ycbhrg | CMV: Male promiscuity is associated with increased agency in life | I think straight male promiscuity is associated with an increased agency in life. Being more in control and able to do what you want. I think this is the case because compared to other groups getting into the lifestyle is much more difficult for them. I don't have any view one way or the other on other groups for this ... | their-holiness | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Racial Discrimination doesn't exist in modern western society
So, I was watching [this debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQA9GZprqM), where the guest debator shares almost none of my beliefs. At one point my view of the conversation shifts when the guest says "there is no racial discrimination in western s... | Do you know how long minorities have been told to wait? And what are they waiting for? To be treated how white people are treated today?
Sorry, you can't have what others have, you have to wait seems like you are just telling people to put up with racial discrimination.
We will still live in a society that has raci... | Can you give an example of what racial discrimination would look like if it did exist?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws
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Do you believe that the only circumstances that can be considered racial discrimination are jim crow laws or can you give more examples? | 5zfx7p | CMV: Racial Discrimination doesn't exist in modern western society | So, I was watching [this debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQA9GZprqM), where the guest debator shares almost none of my beliefs. At one point my view of the conversation shifts when the guest says "there is no racial discrimination in western society today," and the main host who I completely agreed with before... | throwaway029387 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Racial Discrimination doesn't exist in modern western society
So, I was watching [this debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQA9GZprqM), where the guest debator shares almost none of my beliefs. At one point my view of the conversation shifts when the guest says "there is no racial discrimination in western s... | [deleted]
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Minorities are more likely to be poor because 50 years ago they were discriminated against, forcing them into the lower class by a huge margin. 50 years isn't enough for the entire demographic, as a whole, to bounce back, even when the system is completely equal. I'm not arguing that the system *discrim... | Can you give an example of what racial discrimination would look like if it did exist?
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So what you are really saying is that overt racial discrimination doesnt exist, which isnt the same as saying racial discrimination doesnt exist. One can still discriminate on r... | 5zfx7p | CMV: Racial Discrimination doesn't exist in modern western society | So, I was watching [this debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQA9GZprqM), where the guest debator shares almost none of my beliefs. At one point my view of the conversation shifts when the guest says "there is no racial discrimination in western society today," and the main host who I completely agreed with before... | throwaway029387 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Modern hip hop takes less talent to be successful than 10+ years ago
I am trying hard not to be a grumpy old man (still just in my 30s). I want to respect the fact that my parents told me the same stuff when they heard my music blasting out of my bedroom. Their parents with them as well.
Every generation seems ... | Old hip-hop required that you have fucking bars to spit. Yeah? Yeah.
New hip hop honestly doesn't. But it does require that you have marketing skills. It requires you either have beat selection or production skills greater than ever. It requires you hone in on specific listening bases OR the general hip-hop communi... | People have literally been claiming that *every* new generation's reinterpretation of an older style of music took less skill or talent to succeed at.
Classical music to jazz to rock.
Jazz / blues to hip hop to rap.
What makes your critique *any* more valid than that of earlier critics?
I don't much care for a lot ... | ccoeuj | CMV: Modern hip hop takes less talent to be successful than 10+ years ago | I am trying hard not to be a grumpy old man (still just in my 30s). I want to respect the fact that my parents told me the same stuff when they heard my music blasting out of my bedroom. Their parents with them as well.
Every generation seems to question new music. But as a hip hop fan of the 90s, I can't understand... | 00chill00chill00 | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: A Woman And A Man Should Both Have The Ability to Override One Another As Far As Keeping the Fetus Goes During Pregnancy
My view mostly originates from not feeling like the feelings of the man is considered at all when a decision is being made about the fetus inside the woman. I mostly hear that it is the woman's... | I think an easier solution for the lack father’s agency is to absolve him of responsibly rather than forcing an abortion.
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That does seem like a potential solution that I would be happy with, albeit not the best one I wanted. Still I'll take it over our current system. Not sure if that gets you a delta.... I thi... | I think you are overlooking the impact a pregnancy has on the life of a woman.
Physically, mentally... There's still a chance of complications and even death (looking at you US).
Pregancies are not the same for men and women.
I get what you are trying to say, but you can't equate both sides that easy.
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> There... | b086sf | CMV: A Woman And A Man Should Both Have The Ability to Override One Another As Far As Keeping the Fetus Goes During Pregnancy | My view mostly originates from not feeling like the feelings of the man is considered at all when a decision is being made about the fetus inside the woman. I mostly hear that it is the woman's choice because it's her body... ...but technically it's two bodies right? There is an almost parasitic-like organism/future hu... | nyhmthetim | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: A Woman And A Man Should Both Have The Ability to Override One Another As Far As Keeping the Fetus Goes During Pregnancy
My view mostly originates from not feeling like the feelings of the man is considered at all when a decision is being made about the fetus inside the woman. I mostly hear that it is the woman's... | In your proposed solution - lets say that the woman wants to abort but the man wants to keep it. The woman is forced to keep the child, and dies during child birth, is the man able to be charged with manslaughter?
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Sorry if I wasn't clear in my language in my title post. When I wrote, "as far as keeping" I meant t... | I think you are overlooking the impact a pregnancy has on the life of a woman.
Physically, mentally... There's still a chance of complications and even death (looking at you US).
Pregancies are not the same for men and women.
I get what you are trying to say, but you can't equate both sides that easy.
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> There... | b086sf | CMV: A Woman And A Man Should Both Have The Ability to Override One Another As Far As Keeping the Fetus Goes During Pregnancy | My view mostly originates from not feeling like the feelings of the man is considered at all when a decision is being made about the fetus inside the woman. I mostly hear that it is the woman's choice because it's her body... ...but technically it's two bodies right? There is an almost parasitic-like organism/future hu... | nyhmthetim | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: A Woman And A Man Should Both Have The Ability to Override One Another As Far As Keeping the Fetus Goes During Pregnancy
My view mostly originates from not feeling like the feelings of the man is considered at all when a decision is being made about the fetus inside the woman. I mostly hear that it is the woman's... | In your proposed solution - lets say that the woman wants to abort but the man wants to keep it. The woman is forced to keep the child, and dies during child birth, is the man able to be charged with manslaughter?
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Sorry if I wasn't clear in my language in my title post. When I wrote, "as far as keeping" I meant t... | I think you are overlooking the impact a pregnancy has on the life of a woman.
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Pregancies are not the same for men and women.
I get what you are trying to say, but you can't equate both sides that easy.
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> There... | b086sf | CMV: A Woman And A Man Should Both Have The Ability to Override One Another As Far As Keeping the Fetus Goes During Pregnancy | My view mostly originates from not feeling like the feelings of the man is considered at all when a decision is being made about the fetus inside the woman. I mostly hear that it is the woman's choice because it's her body... ...but technically it's two bodies right? There is an almost parasitic-like organism/future hu... | nyhmthetim | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Dillahunty's definition of anti-theism is not "incorrect"
Anti-theism in the dictionary means opposition to theism, or the belief that theism is harmful.
Some people on the other hand, such as Matt Dillahunty, use the definition that anti-theism means the belief that God doesn't exist.
**Some anti-theists of th... | Lemme start this off by saying I'm an atheist. I feel like this can give some more context into my thought process.
Anyways, I actually agree with the definition even though I still technically "support" theism. I think when he says anti theism, he doesn't mean being against theism in the traditional asshole atheist w... | >However, I believe that dictionary definitions can't be incorrect.
Not even dictionary editors believe dictionary definitions can't be incorrect. That's why there'll be alternate meanings listed very often, and why the dictionary will have newer editions to add, delete, and edit. It would be wrong to use Dillahunty'... | cctolx | CMV: Dillahunty's definition of anti-theism is not "incorrect" | Anti-theism in the dictionary means opposition to theism, or the belief that theism is harmful.
Some people on the other hand, such as Matt Dillahunty, use the definition that anti-theism means the belief that God doesn't exist.
**Some anti-theists of the first definition believe that the latter is incorrect.**
Howe... | ComplexStuff7 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The otaku-community can not reasonably be expected to stop using the word "trap" to refer to gender-bending cartoon characters,
Around 2004 on 4chan the word "trap" was coined to refer to a very common trope. in Japanese entertainment where androgynous characters are first introduced to the audience with the impl... | I don't have a strong opinion on the matter. I am transgender, I have used the term before in the past when I was younger and before I knew I was transgender. I'd like just to point out certain things.
"Traps in Japanese entertainment are not transgender; they're just androgynous; they tend to correct others that mist... | [deleted]
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> And let's be honest. It's not used to describe androgynous characters that have a humorous gender reveal. It's used to describe someone who appears to be female yet will be eventually be revealed to be as male. Do a search, this is literally all you will see.
male traps are more common than female tr... | cctzvv | CMV: The otaku-community can not reasonably be expected to stop using the word "trap" to refer to gender-bending cartoon characters, | Around 2004 on 4chan the word "trap" was coined to refer to a very common trope. in Japanese entertainment where androgynous characters are first introduced to the audience with the implication that they are one gender and then revealed comically to be the other after a while after a plot twist. (this is made possible ... | je_kut_is_bourgeois | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: free will is not real
every single action we take is either a result of our experiences, our instincts, or a combination of both. if you had two people and asked them to make a decision, their choice would be completely influenced by their individual personalities. even if they purposefully made a different decis... | Nothing in your post precludes free will. I won’t argue that certain frameworks for behavior aren’t genetic, like fight or flight, etc., but that doesn’t *remove* free will. It could just interact with it.
>their choice would be completely influenced by their individual personalities
This just sounds like a descript... | Personally, I define free will as the perception that one has control over their own decisions. It's irrelevant if such a decision-making is guided by genetics or natural instincts, as long as that individual _feels_ like they made a decision themselves, they have free will.
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If you define free will as perception ... | 1bc2943 | CMV: free will is not real | every single action we take is either a result of our experiences, our instincts, or a combination of both. if you had two people and asked them to make a decision, their choice would be completely influenced by their individual personalities. even if they purposefully made a different decision or chose something unexp... | DysgraphicZ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The majority of ethnonationalists etc. who threaten civil war lack the ability to ever follow through on their threats
***edit: SPECIFICALLY IN THE UNITED STATES***
You keep hearing these flabby ass heroin addicted 500 pound illiterate folks out there being like "imma git mAh gun and then I donno what'll happen ... | Not sure why you think guerilla warfare requires physical fitness.
Taking your motor scooter and your sawed off shotgun to your local elementary school and opening fire, doesn't require much if any physical fitness.
Get enough wackos to do it, and you have a civil war.
You don't need soldiers, or battalions, or e... | The majority of terroism in the Middle East is about forming ethnostates
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!delta I did not make clear that I was talking specifically about the United States, and my view was specific to the lack of ability or competence of those in the United States who hold these views.
I have no idea if ethnonationalists in ot... | gpxrac | CMV: The majority of ethnonationalists etc. who threaten civil war lack the ability to ever follow through on their threats | ***edit: SPECIFICALLY IN THE UNITED STATES***
You keep hearing these flabby ass heroin addicted 500 pound illiterate folks out there being like "imma git mAh gun and then I donno what'll happen mite fixin to start muh CIvIL wAr'
But seriously, are you though bubba, are you?
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CMV: Peace and happiness makes humans weak and complacent.
So I'm sure some of you have probably heard this quote before. Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times. And as much as I don't like the implications it makes sense. And Americans, including mys... | So, "weak" means theoretically unable to defend our country from invaders? You would think some country, especially since WWII, would have come to the same conclusion as you. Since they haven't, I think it's safe to say that your entire premise is wrong.
But, I'll go on...
How long is "too long" to have it "good?"
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As illustrated on [Maslow's famous pyramid of human needs](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/MaslowsHierarchyOfNeeds.svg/1920px-MaslowsHierarchyOfNeeds.svg.png),
1. If basic s... | b04hmo | CMV: Peace and happiness makes humans weak and complacent. | So I'm sure some of you have probably heard this quote before. Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times. And as much as I don't like the implications it makes sense. And Americans, including myself, are weak. We had it good for far too long. Most of us k... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Yahweh is/was unjust in saying that rape survivors should be stoned to death
Deuteronomy 22:22-24 says “If a woman doesn't cry out it is not rape and she will be stoned to death”. How can a just god have sanctioned this behaviour?
# Definitions
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How do you account for psychological dissonance as to deciding if the person being raped can scream out or not?
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Except it wasn't left up to God to decide these things. There were courts (people) that used the standards laid out in scripture to judge people and assign punishments. T... | Either the Bible is fictional, or it isn't.
If it is fiction, then within the fictional world of the Bible, Yahweh's actions were just because that's how morality works in that fictional world. The book just describes a fictional world in which killing rape survivors is moral. There's no contradiction, because things ... | jatg1m | CMV: Yahweh is/was unjust in saying that rape survivors should be stoned to death | Deuteronomy 22:22-24 says “If a woman doesn't cry out it is not rape and she will be stoned to death”. How can a just god have sanctioned this behaviour?
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CMV: It's time for the EU to take action against the Polish Government
Since the Law and Justice party has come into power in Poland in 2015, I believe the country has been steadily declining towards fascism. You can see this with the crisis surrounding the appointment of judges, the introduction of "LGBT-free zones",... | EU should not do this, became it would simply push Poland into Russian sphere of influence, which would be a much worse outcome for Europe as a whole.
You don't change toxic elements of Polish (or anyone else's) culture by force. You change hearts and minds by leading by example.
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>it would simply push Poland int... | It should pressure poland just so it can leave and weaken the eu. Fuck EU.
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Only in the sense that it could lead to more countries backing out. Poland would definitely be the ones to suffer the most from a Polish exist though. | p2zcif | CMV: It's time for the EU to take action against the Polish Government | Since the Law and Justice party has come into power in Poland in 2015, I believe the country has been steadily declining towards fascism. You can see this with the crisis surrounding the appointment of judges, the introduction of "LGBT-free zones", the removal of abortion rights and most recently the pushing of a bill ... | SciFi_Pie | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's time for the EU to take action against the Polish Government
Since the Law and Justice party has come into power in Poland in 2015, I believe the country has been steadily declining towards fascism. You can see this with the crisis surrounding the appointment of judges, the introduction of "LGBT-free zones",... | EU should not do this, became it would simply push Poland into Russian sphere of influence, which would be a much worse outcome for Europe as a whole.
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>it would simply push Poland int... | Why? Why should the eu get involved? If the eu can take millions or Africans and middle easterns, then the eu can take a few thousands polish LGTB people. What you are asking I'd for the eu to punish polish people, including LGTB people with economic sanctions, is gross.
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CMV: Abortion bans will never work and it's a flawed approach to the problem
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Because it's very often traumatizing to the mother and the father of an aborted child.
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By the same token birth is often traumatising to the mother and kills her.
"Abortion is wrong and pro life are right" is hardly the way to start off a debate if you want a rational discuss... | Assuming Pro-Lifers are correct (which is not as you frame a clear cut issue) abortion bans are certainly the way to go. If Abortion = Murder is true then banning abortion is akin to banning murder.
Will there still be murders? Of course. There is also underground business involving murder. That does not mean we sho... | cwackx | CMV: Abortion bans will never work and it's a flawed approach to the problem | # Disclaimer
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CMV: Abortion bans will never work and it's a flawed approach to the problem
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why? this is change my view
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How is letting women decide to have a simple medical procedure that will prevent making their life painful and miserable, wrong? "Wrong" describes the opposite position.
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1 year doesn’t compare to life
if so. it is rare for a bad life c change
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CMV: I don’t believe marriage should be government sanctioned
I believe that individuals in relationships should remain independent of any government force or entity, as there is no reason that an official body or organization should mandate that stipulations are met in a consensual relationship. Many who get married ... | You're aware that you can get "married" without the government acknowledging this right? Marriage in the governments eyes in a contract, nothing more, nothing less. But if anyone wants to "marry" anyone else why do you seek the approval of the government anyways?
So I guess my real question is: what do you mean wh... | Can you elaborate on what guidelines the government forces for marriage?
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CMV: If corporations legally count as people, then it should be possible to 'imprison' them.
Welcome to my glorified shower thought. I'm hoping to learn from people more informed than myself about corporate and criminal law in the USA.
My basic understanding is that one reason that corporations are able to spend e... | That’s all been done - businesses have been fined, property seized, and its employees jailed for breaking various laws. You can even revoke their corporate charter - i.e. the corporate death penalty.
You can also pierce the corporate veil - going after the assets of the shareholders of a corporation and removing the l... | The thing about a corporation being treated as a person is that it shouldn't generally be viewed as controversial.
If a law says "no person shall emit mercury into the water," we don't want it to be a gotcha that it was corporation that was primarily responsible, not a human being, so the corporation can't be forced t... | o7w5jf | CMV: If corporations legally count as people, then it should be possible to 'imprison' them. | Welcome to my glorified shower thought. I'm hoping to learn from people more informed than myself about corporate and criminal law in the USA.
My basic understanding is that one reason that corporations are able to spend extravagant funding on political campaigns in the USA is that (a) they have been ruled to legal... | The_Card_Player | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: It would be an irresponsible risk for me to ever have Children.
Hi, I am a 20 year old male who been in a relationship for just under a year and it made me think of the future and having children then. I do not at all want children anytime soon and thats not what has me concerned. My real concern is about when I ... | Just get a kid when you're financially stable, married, and have a home. Also if you're scared about having a disabled child, you could always have an abortion if your wife agreed with it and don't care about the moral issues. The risk for disorders is extremely small.
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I just said the main issue was the small bu... | Well, most severe defects like that are detectable early on so if the fetus showed signs of those you can just abort and try again.
I guess that there’s still a small chance that something could slip past undetected. I can’t deny that, but you also must remember that it’s a very, very small chance. Every time you get... | 8xgsgx | CMV: It would be an irresponsible risk for me to ever have Children. | Hi, I am a 20 year old male who been in a relationship for just under a year and it made me think of the future and having children then. I do not at all want children anytime soon and thats not what has me concerned. My real concern is about when I am of the proper age, financial situation, and relationship status to ... | AlexDChristen | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I shouldn't be responsible for avoiding traffic coming from behind me
Rather case-specific actually. I live in a shitty part of the village where there are no bike lanes so bikers cycle on the same path as people walk. The path is narrow and can only allow 2 persons to walk side by side. *(New information) IIt'... | [removed]
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It's a pretty rural village. Cars are not allowed in and there's only one path. The laws here only require cyclists to use the bike lane if there is one there, which not the case here. Added to my original post.
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Thanks for the explanation!
Since now perdestrians and cyclists are basically the ... | Should you be responsible? No.
Is it smart to be aware of your surroundings at all times? Yes.
Just like when you drive. You do not only drive for yourself. You have to consider all those around you.
You can say you were not at fault all you want. But if you can go above and beyond for your own well being, why not?
... | cwha1r | CMV: I shouldn't be responsible for avoiding traffic coming from behind me | Rather case-specific actually. I live in a shitty part of the village where there are no bike lanes so bikers cycle on the same path as people walk. The path is narrow and can only allow 2 persons to walk side by side. *(New information) IIt's a pretty rural village. Cars are not allowed in and there's only one path... | PM_me_Henrika | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People (usually students) who found/co-found startups or small businesses are deliberating lying on their resumes when they claim to hold C-level executive positions (CEO, COO).
I don’t know why but it really irks me when students in high school or college claim to have held such positions on their resumes when a... | What are they lying about? They are the owner/operator of a business. That is all that is necessary to be a CEO or other C-level position. So long as they actually held the position that they claim in the company that they claim they are accurate. Being a publicly traded company, or owning stock as you talk about in ot... | What is your definition of a CEO or other C-level position?
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That’s the part I’m confused on. I thought you needed company stock in order to have c-level executives in the first place. My peers claim that simply being “in charge” is enough.
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CMV: I despise advertising, and think the people who work in it are scum.
Final Edit: Man, not even two hours and you guys pretty much blew me out of the water. Is that typical?
Alright, first things first, I apologize to anyone I offended by calling them scum. I certainly came in here all pissed and half-cocked. In ... | It's interesting to me that you target something like Axe body spray for it's advertising and not something more predatory like pharmaceuticals. Part of advertising is also about portraying the company in a specific way along with a particular product.
I personally work in insurance, which obviously advertises and is... | Surely there are some degrees here, right?
Like, advertising for the #1 ranked children's hospital in the region can't be on the same moral level as advertising for a cigarette company. You can put ads for the two thing on the same highway billboard, but I'm certainly going to have a different opinion of one person vs... | 6vrj7w | CMV: I despise advertising, and think the people who work in it are scum. | Final Edit: Man, not even two hours and you guys pretty much blew me out of the water. Is that typical?
Alright, first things first, I apologize to anyone I offended by calling them scum. I certainly came in here all pissed and half-cocked. In my defense, I can't seem to work up the courage to talk about many subjects... | Outofeveryloop | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Canada is the most civilized nation of them all. We are not merciless warmongers or oppressive zealots.
I have come to the conclusion that Canadian values are superior to those of any other country except maybe for Australia, New Zealand, and the Scandinavians.
We consistently rank at the top of UN charts for ... | Just some food for thought: how often do Canadians *rely* on all the innovation and technology coming out of the USA - specifically - to remain "civilized" and prosperous?
I know you use and probably enjoy reddit (USA), and have likely searched for something you needed to find using Google (USA), and probably are doin... | oh boy... awful lot of whataboutism going on here
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Care to list an example? The way I see it we are far more civilized than anybody else. I mean, when was the last time Canadians mass-murdered thousands of innocent children and their parents and grandparents with weapons of mass destruction?
French and British ... | a5v4yw | CMV: Canada is the most civilized nation of them all. We are not merciless warmongers or oppressive zealots. | I have come to the conclusion that Canadian values are superior to those of any other country except maybe for Australia, New Zealand, and the Scandinavians.
We consistently rank at the top of UN charts for human development, peacefulness, prosperity, tolerance, etc.
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CMV: The US Department of Defense considers climate change to be a security risk. Realistically, if you're in a developed country, I don't believe that you (whether you're in the working class, middle class, upper class - whatever) have anything to worry about.
Let's say there's social unrest in countries where crops ... | Climate change *directly* threatens security in only a few ways - for instance if rising sea levels make existing bases unworkable.
Rather, climate change is a **threat multiplier**. Trying to maintain military bases in the Middle East is a shitty job. Trying to maintain Middle Eastern bases in the midst of brutal dro... | [Here](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nowhere-run-climate-change-will-affect-every-region-u-s-n98396) is a partial list of the potential effects for the United States _alone_ in the next 50-100 years:
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CMV: The US Department of Defense considers climate change to be a security risk. Realistically, if you're in a developed country, I don't believe that you (whether you're in the working class, middle class, upper class - whatever) have anything to worry about.
Let's say there's social unrest in countries where crops ... | Power vacuums often arise in areas of unrest. We are far from Syria, but the impact can be felt. Isis has attacked the US several times.
Power vacuums can be caused by social unrest and revolt when food isn't adequately provided.
Additionally, climate change can affect us directly in the USA, even without external i... | [Here](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nowhere-run-climate-change-will-affect-every-region-u-s-n98396) is a partial list of the potential effects for the United States _alone_ in the next 50-100 years:
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CMV: Not being attracted to someone because they're bisexual is BAD.
Saw this debate happening on Twitter and thought I’d throw in my two cents because I feel REALLY solid on this.
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I’m also going to isolate the word biphobic here because it will likely become a semantic point of argument. This is what bipho... | I don't think this argument really works, because merely not being physically observable or observable as a trait shouldn't make something invalid for the purposes of attraction. To make an analogy, suppose that someone is secretly a fascist. Their fascism is not physically observable. Nor is their fascism an observabl... | Who are you to determine what people get to decide is attractive to them or not?
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I am not determining what preferences people can have. I am not calling to arrest people with "invalid preferences". I am explaining that I think there is a problem with "invalid" preferences. That's all.
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CMV: Not being attracted to someone because they're bisexual is BAD.
Saw this debate happening on Twitter and thought I’d throw in my two cents because I feel REALLY solid on this.
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I’m also going to isolate the word biphobic here because it will likely become a semantic point of argument. This is what bipho... | I don't think this argument really works, because merely not being physically observable or observable as a trait shouldn't make something invalid for the purposes of attraction. To make an analogy, suppose that someone is secretly a fascist. Their fascism is not physically observable. Nor is their fascism an observabl... | You've defined some types of attraction as 'invalid' because they relate to non-observable traits.
But there are ton of non-observable traits that you would discriminate against in your dating preferences, I'm sure. For example, you probably wouldn't want to date a person who is super religious or has super weird feti... | uutqod | CMV: Not being attracted to someone because they're bisexual is BAD. | Saw this debate happening on Twitter and thought I’d throw in my two cents because I feel REALLY solid on this.
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CMV: Bump Stocks should not be banned
For me to think possession of Bump Stocks should be prohibited (the way they currently are in Massachusetts), I would have to believe that there exists a piece of injection molded plastic, whose shape is so inherently dangerous that even when locked up in a safe it represents an i... | For me to think possession of Bump Stocks should be prohibited (the way they currently are in Massachusetts), I would have to believe that there exists a piece of injection molded plastic, whose shape is so inherently dangerous that even when locked up in a safe it represents an imminent threat to public safety. I don'... | [deleted]
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No it's just something I think is a popular misconception that I didn't want to deal with.
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CMV: I believe that hate speech needs to be protected. (See Post)
Before the pious multitudes line up to crucify me, please read:
This is going to be kind of long because in addition to elucidating my point, I also need to define and differentiate a few things, specifically two kinds of negative speech:
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Are you including a right not to be prevented from speaking by owners of platforms and publications, or are you merely saying that *governments* cannot ban their speech or punish them for it?
Bec... | Define "protected". You are way too vague on that.
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I think with the recent attitudes toward offending people, we need to be careful about a tyranny which forces everyone to agree with and endorse the social ... | a5m1fq | CMV: I believe that hate speech needs to be protected. (See Post) | Before the pious multitudes line up to crucify me, please read:
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CMV: The rocket emoji “🚀” is much better suited than the eggplant emoji “🍆” to represent male genitalia/sexual innuendos.
I must first say I’m happily married, and love my wife very much. Like most couples, we enjoy sending flirty messages back and forth via text, Snapchat, etc. But, I find the eggplant emoji “🍆” w... | Eggplants are biological organisms, like humans. Rockets aren't. Also, penises are closer to the purple/red colors of eggplants than the white/silver of rockets.
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I believe the emoji invo... | Eggplant pairs better with the clear winner of best emoji for ass, 🍑. Both are plants and thus are a better pair than 🍑 and 🚀
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I’m awarding this for the fact that I almost counter-argued that you could use 🚀 and 🌙 in the place of 🍆 and 🍑 , but quickly realized that could’ve been taken in a much different... | 8mbq9h | CMV: The rocket emoji “🚀” is much better suited than the eggplant emoji “🍆” to represent male genitalia/sexual innuendos. | I must first say I’m happily married, and love my wife very much. Like most couples, we enjoy sending flirty messages back and forth via text, Snapchat, etc. But, I find the eggplant emoji “🍆” weak and misleading. Here’s why I prefer the rocket emoji.
A rocket’s “lift off” is a better representation of an erection... | mbe8819 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I can't seem to believe in non-binary
For context, I'm a cis female. I'm usually a very accepting and open minded but I can't seem to wrap my head around the concept of non-binary. I only see gender as what it truly is, either male or female, I fully accept transgender though. I don't think that gender is an "... | > For context, I'm a cis female. I'm usually a very accepting and open minded but I can't seem to wrap my head around the concept of non-binary. I only see gender as what it truly is, either male or female, I fully accept transgender though. I don't think that gender is an "identity" and that you can just identify as a... | > I only see gender as what it truly is, either male or female
Are you sure you’re not talking about sex?
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am I? sorry if Im confusing the two
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cmv: The Separation of church and state does not mean that morals can't be religiously sourced
The argument I make more specifically is that the separation of church and state means that an individual who is a government leader can't also be a religious leader at the same time. This does not mean that any moral that c... | Seperation of church and state, doesn't exist in the minds of voters. Voters never have to justify why they voted how they voted. That's not what it means.
Seperation of church and state exists at the level of policy. The government cannot compel a citizen to endorse a religous belief that they don't hold. The govern... | There is a difference between having religious beliefs affect your political views and using your political power to instill your religious beliefs on others.
To use the example you gave, any law that makes it illegal to kill a cow in India would be unjust because it forces other people to subscribe to beliefs they ma... | jakrtn | cmv: The Separation of church and state does not mean that morals can't be religiously sourced | The argument I make more specifically is that the separation of church and state means that an individual who is a government leader can't also be a religious leader at the same time. This does not mean that any moral that comes from a religion or religious text can't be used in politics or that a voter is required to ... | jiffylubeyou | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: You should NOT try to win a debate or argument.
Many people go into debates about politics or whatnot with the intention of "winning" the debate. What this usually means is making the opposition change their view on a matter. If you search "How to win a debate", you'll find countless articles giving tips and even... | I'd argue there's a distinction to be made between an argument/debate and a discussion.
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I would generally agree with this. Go into a debate with the intent to understand where the person is coming from and why. Then making decisions from there. Generally I like to explain why I disagree and hope that they get where I'm coming from once I think I have a good grasp ... | cwbsde | CMV: You should NOT try to win a debate or argument. | Many people go into debates about politics or whatnot with the intention of "winning" the debate. What this usually means is making the opposition change their view on a matter. If you search "How to win a debate", you'll find countless articles giving tips and even articles about how to win debate competitions. A deba... | KingPlanty | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Some People Take Religion Too Seriously - This Is Weird
Some people take religion far too seriously in my opinion. I am perfectly fine with people being religious/spiritual, but why would anyone let religion influence every part of their life? This level of religiosity in my opinion shouldn't be considered normal... | I’m agnostic, I study the study of gods though. Read religious books as well. I’m scared to die, death makes me sad, I rethink life at the sight of someone else losing someone and I cry if I ever lost someone. Even an animal. You kill for food, it’s a brutal world and life is taken for granted. The idea of a god gets p... | If you believed, truly believed, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you had the biggest truth that there ever was to know, and all you had to do to guarantee your eternity in peace and contentment, at one with all there is and the one who created it, why wouldn't you want to follow every rule and stricture?
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CMV: Stormfront was miscast (The Boys, season 2 spoilers)
I want to preface this by saying that I don't think Aya Cash did a bad job in her role just that for reasons that are best to be delicate when talking about, she doesn't fit it.
So, for all those who've watched season 2 of The Boys, we know that the character ... | >The only problem is that her actress, Aya Cash is, well, very visibly Jewish. Or rather of Jewish heritage. If we're being hyper exact, of Semitic heritage since it's not her, or her family's faith that I'm talking about.
Perhaps that's intentional. A huge and glaring issue with racial reductivism is that it's largel... | The Boys is definitely a comedy, definitely a satire, and it requires a bunch of suspension of disbelief.
The thing that I had a hard time suspending disbelief on was how people talked. I've never in my life heard so many people open a conversation with a joke, get a joke response, then pause for a moment, get serious... | jajfic | CMV: Stormfront was miscast (The Boys, season 2 spoilers) | I want to preface this by saying that I don't think Aya Cash did a bad job in her role just that for reasons that are best to be delicate when talking about, she doesn't fit it.
So, for all those who've watched season 2 of The Boys, we know that the character Stormfront is actually a Nazi. No not just a fascist, or ra... | LetMeNotHear | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Stormfront was miscast (The Boys, season 2 spoilers)
I want to preface this by saying that I don't think Aya Cash did a bad job in her role just that for reasons that are best to be delicate when talking about, she doesn't fit it.
So, for all those who've watched season 2 of The Boys, we know that the character ... | >The only problem is that her actress, Aya Cash is, well, very visibly Jewish. Or rather of Jewish heritage. If we're being hyper exact, of Semitic heritage since it's not her, or her family's faith that I'm talking about.
Perhaps that's intentional. A huge and glaring issue with racial reductivism is that it's largel... | The Boys is definitely a comedy, definitely a satire, and it requires a bunch of suspension of disbelief.
The thing that I had a hard time suspending disbelief on was how people talked. I've never in my life heard so many people open a conversation with a joke, get a joke response, then pause for a moment, get serious... | jajfic | CMV: Stormfront was miscast (The Boys, season 2 spoilers) | I want to preface this by saying that I don't think Aya Cash did a bad job in her role just that for reasons that are best to be delicate when talking about, she doesn't fit it.
So, for all those who've watched season 2 of The Boys, we know that the character Stormfront is actually a Nazi. No not just a fascist, or ra... | LetMeNotHear | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Saying white people in general shouldn't feel guilty for the actions of specific, individual white people isn't an example of white fragility.
I was recently banned from /whitepeopletwitter for this comment:
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I would like my view changed to enhance my understanding of racial issues as I think they're an important topic and ubiquitous in our lives.
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Haven’t read her book - but have seen a lecture of her’s on YouTube.
According to Robin DiAngelo - white fragility covers a wide ... | >I don't think the ban was justified (but who cares) and I don't think white fragility is racism (I suppose easy delta here if you can show me why) but I also don't see why my comment is an example of white fragility.
I want to take a minute to respond to this part. "Fragility" is not an example of racism (the belief ... | uuml7w | CMV: Saying white people in general shouldn't feel guilty for the actions of specific, individual white people isn't an example of white fragility. | I was recently banned from /whitepeopletwitter for this comment:
>I don't think "white people" need to feel guilty about this. You're just internalizing an issue over which you don't have control. What we need to do is figure out a way to combat the revisionist history narratives and misinformation that are plaguing c... | LucidMetal | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Political Parties should be abolished
Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green Party, etc. They should all be annihilated from the face of the planet.
Political Parties are tools of oppression and gridlock. Nothing ever gets done in congress because everyone votes along party lines, instead of what they actually... | And how do you propose we do this? There's no law that created political parties, nor is there any law that requires them. They began as informal coalitions and simply adopted greater structure as they evolved. They aren't contrived, they're a natural development in a political system that relies on coalition-building,... | >Political Parties are tools of oppression and gridlock. Nothing ever gets done in congress because everyone votes along party lines, instead of what they actually believe in or what their constituents voted them in for. If there were no political parties, something, ANYTHING, would actually be done.
That thing would... | p1x0yl | CMV: Political Parties should be abolished | Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green Party, etc. They should all be annihilated from the face of the planet.
Political Parties are tools of oppression and gridlock. Nothing ever gets done in congress because everyone votes along party lines, instead of what they actually believe in or what their constituents voted... | Grand_Keizer | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Women have the majority of power when it comes to dating and relationships.
So what I mean by this is the progression of relationships. From platonic to romantic, from dating to a relationship, to a marriage, to kids etc.
So the way we (in the western world at least) date is that a man see a woman he likes and h... | [deleted]
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The risk of rejection is mutual for the entire relationship. Also, not being asked out can also be seen as rejection if you were dropping major hints. | > From platonic to romantic, from dating to a relationship, to a marriage, to kids etc.
Your whole post only addresses who begins a relationship, while your title and intro line talk about the relationship itself. Each relationship is different, so we can’t say “who holds the power” for everyone. But if we are going t... | uumv83 | CMV: Women have the majority of power when it comes to dating and relationships. | So what I mean by this is the progression of relationships. From platonic to romantic, from dating to a relationship, to a marriage, to kids etc.
So the way we (in the western world at least) date is that a man see a woman he likes and he has to convince her to like him. This is done either by being attractive, being ... | pickmeboi | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: recreational Virtual Reality is nowhere close to mainstream adoption, and it may never get there.
The reason I say recreational is because I think there are very real use-cases for the business/education world. In that way, I can see it taking off.
But the problem is recreation. VR is little more than a gimmick... | I'd argue against you on two points. First is the money issue. VR is a very young technology. When the Atari 2600 first launched in 1977, its inflation-adjusted price was $842. Similarly, Intellivision (1980) cost $916 when adjusted for inflation.
These consoles also provided extremely narrow entertainment value. ... | from an artistic perspective, VR completely changes games.
A lot of things that wouldn't be fun on a laptop or console are really fun in the immersion of VR. In that respect, it is revolutionary.
With time, prices might fall. But, there are other options than home video games.
Instead of doing VR in your own home,... | qwgr5h | CMV: recreational Virtual Reality is nowhere close to mainstream adoption, and it may never get there. | The reason I say recreational is because I think there are very real use-cases for the business/education world. In that way, I can see it taking off.
But the problem is recreation. VR is little more than a gimmick when it comes to entertainment, and the issue is effort. Electronic entertainment is supposed to be eas... | sammyp1999 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Amy Coney-Barrett should not recuse herself from any Supreme Court decision on a contested election (assuming she is confirmed)
Here’s my reasoning for this. The line that I keep hearing is it will be a “conflict of interest” and she should recuse herself because President Trump appointed her (in essence gave her... | It will damage her credibility, and thus, the credibility of the court. She was nominated in the midst of an election, by a president and party who have made statements suggesting that they “need her vote” in the case of a contested election. It will forever look like her nomination was a favor paid in return by her vo... | [deleted]
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CMV: You can't rest your personal success on the "system".
1) If you live in a system that's good and you are willing and responsible, you can succeed.
2) If you live in a system that's bad, and you are willing and responsible, you can still succeed.
3) If you live in a system that's good but you are not willing nor... | Lets imagine two islands, island A and island B. Each has 100 people living on it.
* A has a really good system. 99 of the 100 people who live there succeed.
* B has a really bad system. 1 of the 100 people who live there succeed.
Someone from B complains: *"This isn't fair. If I had been born on A, I would most l... | Neither of your two metrics are binary in nature. You're just taking four specific examples on the spectrum.
> If you live in a system that's bad, and you are willing and responsible, you can still succeed.
Systems that are so bad that no one can succeed are very common.
> If you live in a system that's good but yo... | cw5jta | CMV: You can't rest your personal success on the "system". | 1) If you live in a system that's good and you are willing and responsible, you can succeed.
2) If you live in a system that's bad, and you are willing and responsible, you can still succeed.
3) If you live in a system that's good but you are not willing nor responsible, you cannot succeed.
4) If you live in a syste... | jorshlag | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: 'Neckbeards' and 'Nice Guys' are gross and deserve every bit of ridicule they receive
Now, I'm not talking about the appearance. A person can have the stereotypical appearance of a neck beard/Nice Guy and still be a decent person. It's the personality traits of the two that makes someone deserving of ridicule tho... | > (EDIT:Let it be noted that my belief does not extend to people with documented mental disabilitys)
Why is this relevant? Are you saying that if someone has all of the personality traits you describe from a neckbeard / nice guy, but they're also afflicted with OCD, ADHD, or Aspergers then they're not a bad person?
-... | You’re gonna have to tell us what these terms mean.
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Anyone who exhibits 3 out of the four traits I listed
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There are people who see these actions as acceptable, I want them to try to c... | a5i4gs | CMV: 'Neckbeards' and 'Nice Guys' are gross and deserve every bit of ridicule they receive | Now, I'm not talking about the appearance. A person can have the stereotypical appearance of a neck beard/Nice Guy and still be a decent person. It's the personality traits of the two that makes someone deserving of ridicule those traits being: (EDIT:Let it be noted that my belief does not extend to people with documen... | MrPastorOfMuppets | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: In the event of a real zombie apocalypse the world would easily survive and humans would reign victorious.
To first establish some middle ground, I would think that zombies in this scenario are the typical. They are deadly but not overly supernatural. They should embody the typical bite and bodily fluid types of ... | [deleted]
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Ohh. I was thinking of patient zero who would spread it to others through biting.
Very interesting proposal though. Does this include getting directly zombified or killed through biting? If not I can still see a potential antidote being created.
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We'd be completely fcked then but ... | > Our media is saturated with zombie apocalypse films. It has been an idea so heavily fancied, large portions of the population would already be mentally prepared and know what to do.
If they're heavily fancified, why would large portions of the population have an accurate idea of what to do?
More to the point? What ... | o7thtq | CMV: In the event of a real zombie apocalypse the world would easily survive and humans would reign victorious. | To first establish some middle ground, I would think that zombies in this scenario are the typical. They are deadly but not overly supernatural. They should embody the typical bite and bodily fluid types of infection, with ~~instantaneous~~ 1 hour incubation times. (Sad to change such a vital piece of info, but a user ... | 4_20Cakeday | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Antifa is bad.
*Preface: if you're going to counter with "well isnt X worse?" (In this case X probably being an actual fascist organization that antifa is against) I'll almost certainly agree with you.*
*I'm making this post because while fascist, nazi, extreme right, etc. people/groups/movements/orgs are almost... | >I'm not on board with using violence and threats of violence to silence opinions you dont like, even if the opinions are toxic and have led to massively negative outcomes in the past
What do you think is the appropriate response to fascism?
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I've only really seen two tactics work when it comes to fighting fascis... | To be totally honest, I'm familiar with antifa mostly as a hypothetical internet figure. And your post also seems sort of hypothetical, though I'm genuinely not sure, since I don't know much about actual antifa organizations or actions or figures. Can you tell us a little about what antifa actually looks like in the wo... | dxg53q | CMV: Antifa is bad. | *Preface: if you're going to counter with "well isnt X worse?" (In this case X probably being an actual fascist organization that antifa is against) I'll almost certainly agree with you.*
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CMV: Shoelaces are useless and pointless
I’m starting to get more into jogging and hiking. The biggest pain for me is my shoelaces coming undone. So freaking annoying to have to retie them (though I may not be great at it).
I understand there was a time when shoelaces were an essential feature of footwear. However, ... | Straps on a grown man looks dumb as fuck. I've spent a lot of time in the woods. If you're having problems with your shoelaces you aren't tying them right. A tight double knot shouldn't come undone.
If you think shoelaces are hard while hiking try velcro. Everything is going to get stuck in it.
If you break a shoestr... | So you're comparing shoes with shoelaces to two types of shoes: velcro and slip on.
Slip on shoes can't comfortably fit tightly, otherwise you wouldn't be able to get them onto your feet. They're good for convenience, but not being securely attached to your feet.
Velcro, on the other hand, allows your shoes to fit se... | cw573e | CMV: Shoelaces are useless and pointless | I’m starting to get more into jogging and hiking. The biggest pain for me is my shoelaces coming undone. So freaking annoying to have to retie them (though I may not be great at it).
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CMV: Owning a 'pedigree' dog is selfish
I believe wholeheartedly that owning a dog with a named breed is awfully selfish and often times nothing more than a fashion statement.
My main reason for this opinion is that they are genetic messes, especially mastiff types and smaller dogs. The dogs we have now are mostly t... | Some people own pedigree dogs, pit bulls especially, through rescue shelters, which is a very unselfish way to go about dog ownership.
As for people who buy them from the breeders, it's no less selfish than buying factory farmed pork - smarter than dogs and bred to be unhealthily obese, for a bleak meaningless lifetim... | Pedigree dogs exist. It's probably better for that dog for it to be in a loving, caring home than to just be ignored and sent to a shelter.
I can see the argument that breeding pedigree dogs are bad, but once the puppy is born, it's difficult to say that you shouldn't be willing to adopt it, keep it, or love it.
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CMV: Love and sex have nothing to do with each other.
Basically sex is just related to physical pleasure. You stimulate a nub until orgasm. There is no inherit emotion to sex. You can have sex with anybody and get off. You don't have to feel anything towards them or even find them attractive. You can even have sex wit... | Hi OP, I think the answer is very simple. For some people, such as yourself, the two are completely separate as you state. For others (mostly women) sex and love/emotions are twisted up together, and the psyche can’t disentangle the two.
Therefore, your view is true to yourself and some others but untrue to a differen... | You say love is an emotional experience as if emotion is divorced from physical experience. How many fulfilling relationships, platonic or otherwise, do you know of, where neither party touches the other at any point? Don’t you hug your friends? Do you hold hands with your partner(s)? Do you fist/chest bump your bros? ... | dxdgqf | CMV: Love and sex have nothing to do with each other. | Basically sex is just related to physical pleasure. You stimulate a nub until orgasm. There is no inherit emotion to sex. You can have sex with anybody and get off. You don't have to feel anything towards them or even find them attractive. You can even have sex with objects like a Fleshlight or dildo.
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CMV: Love and sex have nothing to do with each other.
Basically sex is just related to physical pleasure. You stimulate a nub until orgasm. There is no inherit emotion to sex. You can have sex with anybody and get off. You don't have to feel anything towards them or even find them attractive. You can even have sex wit... | You say love is an emotional experience as if emotion is divorced from physical experience. How many fulfilling relationships, platonic or otherwise, do you know of, where neither party touches the other at any point? Don’t you hug your friends? Do you hold hands with your partner(s)? Do you fist/chest bump your bros? ... | Usually "that many people can't be wrong" is a bullshit argument, but in this case we're talking about human emotions so that many people literally can't be wrong.
If billions of people all agree love and sex have something to do with each other, that means they do.
Also love and sex both evolved to help in the pro... | dxdgqf | CMV: Love and sex have nothing to do with each other. | Basically sex is just related to physical pleasure. You stimulate a nub until orgasm. There is no inherit emotion to sex. You can have sex with anybody and get off. You don't have to feel anything towards them or even find them attractive. You can even have sex with objects like a Fleshlight or dildo.
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CMV: Love and sex have nothing to do with each other.
Basically sex is just related to physical pleasure. You stimulate a nub until orgasm. There is no inherit emotion to sex. You can have sex with anybody and get off. You don't have to feel anything towards them or even find them attractive. You can even have sex wit... |
[https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-happens-to-your-brain-when-you-orgasm](https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-happens-to-your-brain-when-you-orgasm)
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"Another hormone that the brain makes during orgasm is oxytocin. Secreted by the pituitary gland and released in the hypothalamus, this hormone... | Hi OP, I think the answer is very simple. For some people, such as yourself, the two are completely separate as you state. For others (mostly women) sex and love/emotions are twisted up together, and the psyche can’t disentangle the two.
Therefore, your view is true to yourself and some others but untrue to a differen... | dxdgqf | CMV: Love and sex have nothing to do with each other. | Basically sex is just related to physical pleasure. You stimulate a nub until orgasm. There is no inherit emotion to sex. You can have sex with anybody and get off. You don't have to feel anything towards them or even find them attractive. You can even have sex with objects like a Fleshlight or dildo.
Love on the othe... | Kylethedarkn | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV people who buy from dog breeders are not dog lovers
Imo, a dog lover has to be concerned with the welfare of dogs and not just their dog. By supporting animal breeders and puppy mills, pure bred dog buyers are hurting dogs as a population by contributing to overpopulation and the euthanization of dogs. These peopl... | I just wanted to say a lot of you have made some very good points that I agree with, and you guys have pulled me into a more moderate stance on this issue.
The reason I had such a negative view of purebred dogs and people who buy and breed them was because of a conversation I had with an old roommate. The guy was a bl... | I'm not a big dog person, so forgive me if this question is obvious.
I get that there are disreputable puppy mills and the like, but surely there are places that can ethically and responsibly breed dogs?
What's wrong with finding an ethical and reputable breeder and going with them?
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with calling link, zelda
I have noticed in the loz community that there is a meme about calling the main character of the series, zelda. I have even seen it on t shirts and my friends have send memes about it. However the games allows you to choose the name. Also the "cannon" name of the ch... | You can name your protagonist, but you can't rename Zelda. The name of the franchise is "Legend of Zelda", and the Zelda it's referring to is clearly the princess of Hyrule. If you happen to rename Link to Zelda, then your story has two characters named Zelda in it, which is fine, albeit a bit odd. But if you think tha... | Zelda is a real character in those games. Her own character completely independent of Link.
If I want to talk to you about the game and I want to talk about Zelda, but you call Link Zelda, won't that create confusion?
How can I refer to the actual Zelda if you're also calling Link Zelda?
Edit: also isn't the fact ... | 8x5w3w | CMV: There is nothing wrong with calling link, zelda | I have noticed in the loz community that there is a meme about calling the main character of the series, zelda. I have even seen it on t shirts and my friends have send memes about it. However the games allows you to choose the name. Also the "cannon" name of the character is link meaning the link to the player. So lin... | insertfunyusername | 7 | 6 | [
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CMV: all healthy people should be marked for organ donation, with no option to opt-out.
So, there was a CMV recently about organ donation being the baseline, with an opt-out option. I don't believe that's far enough.
Essentially, if you're healthy, there's absolutely no good enough reason for you not being of use to ... | I've been looking into cryonics. Freezing my body when I die in the hopes that future tech might be able to revive me. It's a Longshot, but if I sign up with one of the freezing companies I won't be donating organs when I die.
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I need this better explained. They freeze your body... after you're dead? After your br... | Think about it this way: Should it be okay for the state to seize your kidney? You don't need it. You can live just fine with one kidney. Should it then be okay for the state to come into your house and say "Somebody else needs one of your kidneys. Get in the van."
I think most people would agree that no, that'd be so... | dxdgjf | CMV: all healthy people should be marked for organ donation, with no option to opt-out. | So, there was a CMV recently about organ donation being the baseline, with an opt-out option. I don't believe that's far enough.
Essentially, if you're healthy, there's absolutely no good enough reason for you not being of use to others in the event of your untimely death.
Religious prohibition is not good enough. Wh... | Galhaar | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Labeling yourself as an ally to a movement serves no meaningful purpose.
So I will mainly be talking about LGBTQ+ allies, though I'm aware other types exist. To my knowledge an ally is someone who is NOT part of the group they are fighting for. So...
1. You're not special. Okay great! You support people like me ... | >So I think the work y'all are doing is great but I just don't see the need for y'all to distinguish yourselves from the people who are doing the same damn thing but just happen to also be LGBTQ+.
Aren't they distinguishing themselves from the people who are *against* the group they support?
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That too, but they... | > That should be the default position though
It isn't though. And people who believe in treating you equally are often not showing support by going to rallies and such. An ally isn't just someone who believes in LGBTQ+ rights, it is someone that actively shows their support. Actively doing anything is never a defau... | 8x2f39 | CMV: Labeling yourself as an ally to a movement serves no meaningful purpose. | So I will mainly be talking about LGBTQ+ allies, though I'm aware other types exist. To my knowledge an ally is someone who is NOT part of the group they are fighting for. So...
1. You're not special. Okay great! You support people like me being treated equitably and not shittily in society. That should be the default... | trajayjay | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The death penalty is justice, and the convict shouldn't have a choice
There are some who oppose the death penalty, and there are those who believe that a convict should be able to choose between a death penalty and a life sentence. I do not understand either of these opinions, and do not agree.
In my view, a con... | 4% of death row inmates are innocent of the crimes they are convicted of. The death penalty shouldn't exist.
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That's a flaw in the execution of the system. It's like saying you're against protected sex because sometimes people who use protection still get pregnant.
There are also innocent people serving life sen... | My view changed when I accepted the fact that ***one*** innocent person put to death is one too many to see the Death Penalty as a whole as Justice.
There is no justice in taking an innocent life.
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Then how can you be for prison at all? Its like either you kill an innocent person or you send him to hell on eart... | o632cj | CMV: The death penalty is justice, and the convict shouldn't have a choice | There are some who oppose the death penalty, and there are those who believe that a convict should be able to choose between a death penalty and a life sentence. I do not understand either of these opinions, and do not agree.
In my view, a convicted person who took enough life to qualify (by law) for the death penalty... | DissociatedDeveloper | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: The death penalty is justice, and the convict shouldn't have a choice
There are some who oppose the death penalty, and there are those who believe that a convict should be able to choose between a death penalty and a life sentence. I do not understand either of these opinions, and do not agree.
In my view, a con... | My view changed when I accepted the fact that ***one*** innocent person put to death is one too many to see the Death Penalty as a whole as Justice.
There is no justice in taking an innocent life.
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And honestly, there aren't that many death sentences ... | >
As far as I see it, they were so calloused that they close to kill someone (taking that person's choice of living away by force).
I think you may be mistaken as what would constitute getting the death penalty.
"The Crimes Act of 1790 defined some capital offenses: treason, murder, robbery, piracy, mutiny, hostility... | o632cj | CMV: The death penalty is justice, and the convict shouldn't have a choice | There are some who oppose the death penalty, and there are those who believe that a convict should be able to choose between a death penalty and a life sentence. I do not understand either of these opinions, and do not agree.
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CMV: Ghosts are not real
I really love anything to do with the paranormal, but after watching hundreds upon hundreds of 'ghost videos' I have to come to the conclusion ghosts are not real.
With cameras all over our world, surely something convincing would have been caught if they were. Instead we're filled with 'I go... | About a year after my grandfather died, I was going through a divorce and a pretty tough time. One night I was making dinner when I turned around and there was my grandpa, standing in my kitchen, just smiling at me. Not transparent or glowing or anything, just as if he were actually there. When I looked at him he said ... | Here’s what’s both exciting and kind of a bummer for those of us who love the paranormal, and struggle to maintain the belief that it’s real; technology is bonkers. The kind of things we make using CGI in movies and TV shows is incredible, but also makes it really difficult to believe anything we see, without reducing ... | dxc255 | CMV: Ghosts are not real | I really love anything to do with the paranormal, but after watching hundreds upon hundreds of 'ghost videos' I have to come to the conclusion ghosts are not real.
With cameras all over our world, surely something convincing would have been caught if they were. Instead we're filled with 'I got feeling', orbs that are... | Ireallyamthisshallow | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Minimum wage only entitles you to the minimum quality of life
Minimum wage should only entitle you to the minimum quality of life, such as a roof over your head, food, water, and power. Every other luxury isn’t a necessity. First off healthcare is a necessity, I live in Canada so I’m not talking about countries w... | No one is trying to only make minimum wage. Though, you know what, it would be nice if minimum wage could even afford all that.
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It can in Ontario, Canada
Minimum wage is $15 an hour, that’s $1320 biweekly before tax. That wage already covered rent for that months, the rest is extra.
This is my point about movin... | If everyone who works a minimum wage job quits and moves somewhere else, who’s going to work the minimum wage jobs?
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No one, so they will have to start paying more:) or students/teenagers. Cities have such a huge cost of living and rely on the work of minimum wage workers for them to function. If more minimum wage... | nevptl | CMV: Minimum wage only entitles you to the minimum quality of life | Minimum wage should only entitle you to the minimum quality of life, such as a roof over your head, food, water, and power. Every other luxury isn’t a necessity. First off healthcare is a necessity, I live in Canada so I’m not talking about countries with private healthcare.
You can find a student-housing like living ... | WantedHHHJJJ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Everyone should donate a small portion of their money to charities that help hungry people in third world countries
I think this is a pretty reasonable position. I welcome you to challenge it. For disclosure though, I readily admit that I don't donate money to charities. And I haven't found a charity that I know ... | Nope sorry. Fuck people in 3rd world countries. Maybe they shouldn't be having 10 kids when they can't even feed or house or clothe themselves. All you're doing is paying for that cycle to continue
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The... | I agree we should give back when you can but not everyone can afford to donate a portion of their income to charity. Even in the US there are way too many children who are starving and whose families cannot afford to spend any extra money on others. We also should not expect them too.
I think the better point is that... | cvvsu0 | CMV: Everyone should donate a small portion of their money to charities that help hungry people in third world countries | I think this is a pretty reasonable position. I welcome you to challenge it. For disclosure though, I readily admit that I don't donate money to charities. And I haven't found a charity that I know will help in the ways I want. But they probably exist, in fact there is a website (givewell.org I think) that helps people... | SauceBeUponHim | 3 | 3 | [
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I think this is a pretty reasonable position. I welcome you to challenge it. For disclosure though, I readily admit that I don't donate money to charities. And I haven't found a charity that I know ... | I agree we should give back when you can but not everyone can afford to donate a portion of their income to charity. Even in the US there are way too many children who are starving and whose families cannot afford to spend any extra money on others. We also should not expect them too.
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CMV: The South African president's idea of confiscating land from white farmers is ridiculously stupid.
Basically white farmers are being murdered by black South Africans like crazy. (EDIT 2: The farm attacks aren't necessarily racially motivated. [See wikipedia's section on possible motives](https://en.wikipedia.org/... | I don't know anything about the President's plan, though it could be perfectly legal depending on the property laws associated with the land/estates in question. If the farmers' only title to the land is based in possession they can be displaced by a finding of legitimate sui generis title of the people who preceded th... | Statistically, black farmers are disproportionately targeted by criminal gangs. The only reason more white farmers are targeted is because the majority of farms are white-owned. So, these aren't racist crimes as the alt-right likes to claim. Instead, they're crimes of convenience. Farmers are isolated and easy targets.... | 80fyyg | CMV: The South African president's idea of confiscating land from white farmers is ridiculously stupid. | Basically white farmers are being murdered by black South Africans like crazy. (EDIT 2: The farm attacks aren't necessarily racially motivated. [See wikipedia's section on possible motives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_farm_attacks). Don't argue with me about this) And now the new black president of Sout... | contro-versy | 3 | 3 | [
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Basically white farmers are being murdered by black South Africans like crazy. (EDIT 2: The farm attacks aren't necessarily racially motivated. [See wikipedia's section on possible motives](https://en.wikipedia.org/... | [removed]
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My view has been informed throughout this conversation because I new nothing about this issue a couple hours ago. Has it changed? Not quite.
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CMV: We should only have cells for single inmates in prisons
I've been very interested in prison issues over the years and one of the problems I haven't looked into as much is celling.
Some prisons have upwards of four inmates in a single cell and some prisons even have "open bay" cell blocks where there aren't any c... | For context, I work as a Deputy Jailer in a dorm-style direct supervision facility.
I believe that dorm style direct supervision facilities are the safest for the inmates, and provide the largest opportunity for inmate enrichment and allows the ability to keep them productively occupied
Let me define some terms to be... | Living in an open bay like that is a privilege. I don't understand why we would spend so much money for something the prisoners wouldn't even want, and wouldn't really make them safer since people in open bays are pretty safe anyway.
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CMV: Discrimination, although morally wrong is sometimes wise.
The best comparison would be to an insurance company. An insurance company doesn't care why men are more likely to crash cars, they don't care that it happens to be a few people and not everyone. They recognize an existing pattern of statistics completel... | [deleted]
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In my example, it'd be completely divorced from your personal bias, essentially blindly following statistics. Say for example, I worked in New York, i'd look up who's most likely to steal in New York, if possible narrow it down to a smaller geographical area I'm in. And then target that specific group... | Are you familiar with the ultimatium game? Essencially a two player game where one player has to split a pile of money between the two players, and the second player has to accept that split or all the money is destroyed, what do you think the wise way for the player who splits the money to play would be?
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The best comparison would be to an insurance company. An insurance company doesn't care why men are more likely to crash cars, they don't care that it happens to be a few people and not everyone. They recognize an existing pattern of statistics completel... | > The best comparison would be to an insurance company. An insurance company doesn't care why men are more likely to crash cars, they don't care that it happens to be a few people and not everyone. They recognize an existing pattern of statistics completely divorced from your feelings and base their policies on what's ... | >is sometimes wise
You are suggesting that if you have a specific goal (i.e. to maximise profit) then the strategically wise thing to do is to discriminate against people. You agree that this action is immoral.
This would extend to any other immoral goal. For example, if you want to physically abuse someone then your... | o7kbo1 | CMV: Discrimination, although morally wrong is sometimes wise. | The best comparison would be to an insurance company. An insurance company doesn't care why men are more likely to crash cars, they don't care that it happens to be a few people and not everyone. They recognize an existing pattern of statistics completely divorced from your feelings and base their policies on what's ... | RappingAlt11 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: husbands/wives should let each other use their things IF there is no other reason to disallow them from using it except for "I bought it so it's mine" or "boundaries"
I can guarantee you I'll be awarding deltas if you change my mind.
So it seems to me that the pervasive view online is that boundaries are complet... | It's always about agreeing, that's all. This things do not have universal rules. Some marriage could be really like Lily & Marshall and share everything anytime. However, some marriage are like Sheldon & Amy and they do not share anything. And both it's okay.
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>maybe it's better to work together to... | Husbands and wives should arrange their affairs however it pleases them to do so. It's **their** relationship. They get to set their own rules.
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I've said nothing at all about free will. So I have no problem not talking about that.
> It pleases them to stab each other with knives when they get mad... | o6x0h6 | CMV: husbands/wives should let each other use their things IF there is no other reason to disallow them from using it except for "I bought it so it's mine" or "boundaries" | I can guarantee you I'll be awarding deltas if you change my mind.
So it seems to me that the pervasive view online is that boundaries are completely fine.
Obviously I have to list what this post isn't about because it will be torn apart otherwise, so here are - the things that don't qualify:
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CMV: husbands/wives should let each other use their things IF there is no other reason to disallow them from using it except for "I bought it so it's mine" or "boundaries"
I can guarantee you I'll be awarding deltas if you change my mind.
So it seems to me that the pervasive view online is that boundaries are complet... | It's always about agreeing, that's all. This things do not have universal rules. Some marriage could be really like Lily & Marshall and share everything anytime. However, some marriage are like Sheldon & Amy and they do not share anything. And both it's okay.
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> I bought it, it's mine, I get to dec... | You're not entitled to use anyone's anything, unless they give you permission to do so. I think it's safe to assume that you'd agree with that when talking about friendships or sibling relationships etc.
So what is it about the marriage relationship specifically that you beleive entitles someone to unlimited use of t... | o6x0h6 | CMV: husbands/wives should let each other use their things IF there is no other reason to disallow them from using it except for "I bought it so it's mine" or "boundaries" | I can guarantee you I'll be awarding deltas if you change my mind.
So it seems to me that the pervasive view online is that boundaries are completely fine.
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CMV: The "make all males have a vasectomy" thought experiment is flawed and not comparable to abortion.
There's a thought experiment floating around on the internet that goes like this: suppose the government made every male teen get a vasectomy as a form of contraception. This would eliminate unwanted pregnancies, an... | > 3\. Action is distinct from inaction.
In the wake of consequentialist ethics, this distinction is a worthless argument, especially to those who would pull the lever in the trolley problem.
Even without the above, one can argue that inaction *with awareness of the alternative* ***and*** *the foreseeable outcome of ... | >Vasectomies aren't reliably reversed
Thought experiment assumes they are.
>It's missing the whole point behind the pro life argument and why they are against abortion.
It's because this thought experiment is about bodily autonomy and it's importance. Why it would need to aim to defeat all arguments at once?
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CMV: Constitutional amendments in the USA should require a 4/5ths vote in Congress and the ratification of states that comprise 4/5th of the population.
~~A 2/3rds vote of Congress is too low, as that's simply the majority and a third of the minority. An 80% vote requirement would be better because that's the majority... | Why stop there? Hell, let’s go back to the Articles of Confederation days and make it 100%
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It required unanimous consent of the states. It was... | There have only been 27 Amendments passed, the last one coming back in 1992... What's your rationale that it's too hard to get amendments passed now? It seems like a very difficult prospect. What amendments have been passed that you think shouldn't and wouldn't have been with a higher threshold? As far as I can tell... | 80a0dq | CMV: Constitutional amendments in the USA should require a 4/5ths vote in Congress and the ratification of states that comprise 4/5th of the population. | ~~A 2/3rds vote of Congress is too low, as that's simply the majority and a third of the minority. An 80% vote requirement would be better because that's the majority and a majority of the minority, with some extra votes added in. This way, there'd be very broad agreement on amendments, and there wouldn't be any sketch... | Chackoony | 5 | 5 | [
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~~A 2/3rds vote of Congress is too low, as that's simply the majority and a third of the minority. An 80% vote requirement would be better because that's the majority... | There have only been 27 Amendments passed, the last one coming back in 1992... What's your rationale that it's too hard to get amendments passed now? It seems like a very difficult prospect. What amendments have been passed that you think shouldn't and wouldn't have been with a higher threshold? As far as I can tell... | Why stop there? Hell, let’s go back to the Articles of Confederation days and make it 100%
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The AoC was a really bad system.
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~~A 2/3rds vote of Congress is too low, as that's simply the majority and a third of the minority. An 80% vote requirement would be better because that's the majority... | There have only been 27 Amendments passed, the last one coming back in 1992... What's your rationale that it's too hard to get amendments passed now? It seems like a very difficult prospect. What amendments have been passed that you think shouldn't and wouldn't have been with a higher threshold? As far as I can tell... | Why stop there? Hell, let’s go back to the Articles of Confederation days and make it 100%
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Ok none of the other comments explain the Articles o... | 80a0dq | CMV: Constitutional amendments in the USA should require a 4/5ths vote in Congress and the ratification of states that comprise 4/5th of the population. | ~~A 2/3rds vote of Congress is too low, as that's simply the majority and a third of the minority. An 80% vote requirement would be better because that's the majority and a majority of the minority, with some extra votes added in. This way, there'd be very broad agreement on amendments, and there wouldn't be any sketch... | Chackoony | 3 | 3 | [
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~~A 2/3rds vote of Congress is too low, as that's simply the majority and a third of the minority. An 80% vote requirement would be better because that's the majority... | There have only been 27 Amendments passed, the last one coming back in 1992... What's your rationale that it's too hard to get amendments passed now? It seems like a very difficult prospect. What amendments have been passed that you think shouldn't and wouldn't have been with a higher threshold? As far as I can tell... | Why stop there? Hell, let’s go back to the Articles of Confederation days and make it 100%
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CMV: A radio station that plays "today's hits" but explicitly excludes rap is discriminatory.
There's a local radio station in my area that plays top-40 music and hits from previous years, but their slogan is "today's top hits, without the rap". They don't play any of the rap hits, and they play versions of hit songs ... | Sorry, who is it discriminatory against? Rap artists? I am not sure what the point is here, why is this a bad thing? If the station is still on the air while doing this it means it is hitting its metrics and this means there is an audience out there for that.
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Yes I think its discriminatory against rap artists and... | Yes it is by definition discriminatory. They are discriminating against a genre, not a race. Discrimination on the basis of musical genre is not illegal or considered by most rational people to be immoral. Classical stations discriminate against mainstream pop/rap/rock/everything that's not classical. This is fine beca... | cvs2dx | CMV: A radio station that plays "today's hits" but explicitly excludes rap is discriminatory. | There's a local radio station in my area that plays top-40 music and hits from previous years, but their slogan is "today's top hits, without the rap". They don't play any of the rap hits, and they play versions of hit songs with the rap features edited out. This seems very discriminatory to me for several reasons.
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CMV: Jury nullification should be a respected right.
Jury nullification is when the jury acquits someone because they feel that the laws used to convict them are unjust, or are being unfairly applied. I think it should be a right that's more publicly known, that courts can't restrict the doing or awareness of, and tha... | Studies have shown that juries who are told about jury nullification are less likely to care about evidence and more on just how the defendant makes them feel.
Also remember that the biggest use of jury nullification in the US was to let white murderers of black people off the hook. That's not something that we'd lik... | "You cannot substitute your sense of justice, whatever that means, for your duty to follow the law, whether you agree with it or not. It is not for you to determine whether the law is just or whether the law is unjust. That cannot be your task." - Judge's instructions in CA, 2017.
I think that the statement is exactl... | 808imw | CMV: Jury nullification should be a respected right. | Jury nullification is when the jury acquits someone because they feel that the laws used to convict them are unjust, or are being unfairly applied. I think it should be a right that's more publicly known, that courts can't restrict the doing or awareness of, and that jurors feel more comfortable using. I think it could... | Chackoony | 3 | 3 | [
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Jury nullification is when the jury acquits someone because they feel that the laws used to convict them are unjust, or are being unfairly applied. I think it should be a right that's more publicly known, that courts can't restrict the doing or awareness of, and tha... | "You cannot substitute your sense of justice, whatever that means, for your duty to follow the law, whether you agree with it or not. It is not for you to determine whether the law is just or whether the law is unjust. That cannot be your task." - Judge's instructions in CA, 2017.
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Also remember that the biggest use of jury nullification in the US was to let white murderers of black people off the hook. That's not something that we'd lik... | 808imw | CMV: Jury nullification should be a respected right. | Jury nullification is when the jury acquits someone because they feel that the laws used to convict them are unjust, or are being unfairly applied. I think it should be a right that's more publicly known, that courts can't restrict the doing or awareness of, and that jurors feel more comfortable using. I think it could... | Chackoony | 5 | 5 | [
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"text": "\"You cannot substitute your sense of justice, whatever that means, for your duty to follow the law, whether you agree with it or not. It is not for you to determine whether the law is just or whether the law is unjust. That cannot ... | [
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"text": "Studies have shown that juries who are told about jury nullification are less likely to care about evidence and more on just how the defendant makes them feel. \n\nAlso remember that the biggest use of jury nullification in the US was t... | [
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CMV: Jury nullification should be a respected right.
Jury nullification is when the jury acquits someone because they feel that the laws used to convict them are unjust, or are being unfairly applied. I think it should be a right that's more publicly known, that courts can't restrict the doing or awareness of, and tha... | Really dangerous game to play. If juries treat evidence with less weight, it's way more likely that guilty people will be released, or innocent men jailed.
As a possible example, Canada is currently facing a bit of controversy over the murders of Colton Boushie and Tina Fontaine, two indigenous people that were kille... | Studies have shown that juries who are told about jury nullification are less likely to care about evidence and more on just how the defendant makes them feel.
Also remember that the biggest use of jury nullification in the US was to let white murderers of black people off the hook. That's not something that we'd lik... | 808imw | CMV: Jury nullification should be a respected right. | Jury nullification is when the jury acquits someone because they feel that the laws used to convict them are unjust, or are being unfairly applied. I think it should be a right that's more publicly known, that courts can't restrict the doing or awareness of, and that jurors feel more comfortable using. I think it could... | Chackoony | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no good reason for movies and TV shows to not accurately depict CPR
You know the scene. A main character is pulled out of the water. Are they dead? OMG. Another main character starts doing chest compressions right away, and suddenly the person is coughing up water. They're OK. Hurray!
Of course, that's ... | Actual plot points and other events are often cut from TV shows to get it to a specific amount of time. Why would a director then voluntarily add more time back in to watch someone check for a pulse, check the airway, etc.?
---
I believe the amount of time necessary to do it correctly is minuscule. it takes such a fe... | How long does CPR typically take between the initial incident and the person having a pulse again and being transported to the hospital? How long does a movie/series episode take?
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Adding the correct steps to CRP will add, at most, a few seconds to the scene time.
---
You want to accurately depict CPR, isn't it... | p1tnqi | CMV: There is no good reason for movies and TV shows to not accurately depict CPR | You know the scene. A main character is pulled out of the water. Are they dead? OMG. Another main character starts doing chest compressions right away, and suddenly the person is coughing up water. They're OK. Hurray!
Of course, that's not how it works. The person administering CPR didn't even check to see if they had... | tomtomglove | 3 | 3 | [
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"score": 40,
"text": "Actual plot points and other events are often cut from TV shows to get it to a specific amount of time. Why would a director then voluntarily add more time back in to watch someone check for a pulse, check the airway, etc.?",
"times... | [
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"text": "How long does CPR typically take between the initial incident and the person having a pulse again and being transported to the hospital? How long does a movie/series episode take?",
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CMV: grind dancing with someone other than your partner is cheating
I don't know why anyone would even go for monogamy in current year, but if you are, how is rubbing naughty bits that way not cheating?
Makes no sense. You're literally rubbing up on some stranger, potentially getting aroused, probably drunk, probabl... | I mean, the only response to that i have is that the definition of “cheating” is very subjective. Those are boundaries that should be set by each couple. I used to grind with my female friend at the club while she had a bf, in retrospect it’s a little cringe, but it wasn’t cheating. Other relationships, liking another ... | Cheating is breaking the rules of a relationship. If the people in a relationship choose to allow grinding on other people then it's not cheating.
---
I believe I addressed this
>I mean, yes, it is true that whatever rules people agree to isn't cheating, because they agreed to it.
>But I feel that most couples nev... | nerndb | CMV: grind dancing with someone other than your partner is cheating | I don't know why anyone would even go for monogamy in current year, but if you are, how is rubbing naughty bits that way not cheating?
Makes no sense. You're literally rubbing up on some stranger, potentially getting aroused, probably drunk, probably surrounded by other people grind dancing who progress beyond that, ... | OddAlternatives | 5 | 4 | [
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"author": "yukon-cornelius69",
"id": "gyhppv6",
"score": 23,
"text": "I mean, the only response to that i have is that the definition of “cheating” is very subjective. Those are boundaries that should be set by each couple. I used to grind with my female friend at the club while she had a bf, in r... | [
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"author": "tbdabbholm",
"id": "gyhq5m7",
"score": 13,
"text": "Cheating is breaking the rules of a relationship. If the people in a relationship choose to allow grinding on other people then it's not cheating.",
"timestamp": 1621285388
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CMV: grind dancing with someone other than your partner is cheating
I don't know why anyone would even go for monogamy in current year, but if you are, how is rubbing naughty bits that way not cheating?
Makes no sense. You're literally rubbing up on some stranger, potentially getting aroused, probably drunk, probabl... | What's your definition of "cheating"?
---
What's yours? (I'm not trying to be difficult, might just be a better place to start)
---
That's not how it works. You posed the CMV. Back up your POV.
---
My CMV isn't about a broad based definition of cheating. It's about whether this specific act is cheating. I mean, y... | I mean, the only response to that i have is that the definition of “cheating” is very subjective. Those are boundaries that should be set by each couple. I used to grind with my female friend at the club while she had a bf, in retrospect it’s a little cringe, but it wasn’t cheating. Other relationships, liking another ... | nerndb | CMV: grind dancing with someone other than your partner is cheating | I don't know why anyone would even go for monogamy in current year, but if you are, how is rubbing naughty bits that way not cheating?
Makes no sense. You're literally rubbing up on some stranger, potentially getting aroused, probably drunk, probably surrounded by other people grind dancing who progress beyond that, ... | OddAlternatives | 5 | 5 | [
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"author": "NouAlfa",
"id": "gyhr4rm",
"score": 2,
"text": "What's your definition of \"cheating\"?",
"timestamp": 1621285818
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"author": "OddAlternatives",
"id": "gyhrlqb",
"score": -2,
"text": "What's yours? (I'm not trying to be difficult, might just be a better place ... | [
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"author": "yukon-cornelius69",
"id": "gyhppv6",
"score": 23,
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CMV: grind dancing with someone other than your partner is cheating
I don't know why anyone would even go for monogamy in current year, but if you are, how is rubbing naughty bits that way not cheating?
Makes no sense. You're literally rubbing up on some stranger, potentially getting aroused, probably drunk, probabl... | Cheating is breaking the rules of a relationship. If the people in a relationship choose to allow grinding on other people then it's not cheating.
---
I believe I addressed this
>I mean, yes, it is true that whatever rules people agree to isn't cheating, because they agreed to it.
>But I feel that most couples nev... | I mean, the only response to that i have is that the definition of “cheating” is very subjective. Those are boundaries that should be set by each couple. I used to grind with my female friend at the club while she had a bf, in retrospect it’s a little cringe, but it wasn’t cheating. Other relationships, liking another ... | nerndb | CMV: grind dancing with someone other than your partner is cheating | I don't know why anyone would even go for monogamy in current year, but if you are, how is rubbing naughty bits that way not cheating?
Makes no sense. You're literally rubbing up on some stranger, potentially getting aroused, probably drunk, probably surrounded by other people grind dancing who progress beyond that, ... | OddAlternatives | 5 | 5 | [
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"author": "tbdabbholm",
"id": "gyhq5m7",
"score": 13,
"text": "Cheating is breaking the rules of a relationship. If the people in a relationship choose to allow grinding on other people then it's not cheating.",
"timestamp": 1621285388
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"author": "OddAlternatives",
"id": "gyhq8... | [
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"author": "yukon-cornelius69",
"id": "gyhppv6",
"score": 23,
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CMV: grind dancing with someone other than your partner is cheating
I don't know why anyone would even go for monogamy in current year, but if you are, how is rubbing naughty bits that way not cheating?
Makes no sense. You're literally rubbing up on some stranger, potentially getting aroused, probably drunk, probabl... | I mean, the only response to that i have is that the definition of “cheating” is very subjective. Those are boundaries that should be set by each couple. I used to grind with my female friend at the club while she had a bf, in retrospect it’s a little cringe, but it wasn’t cheating. Other relationships, liking another ... | What's your definition of "cheating"?
---
What's yours? (I'm not trying to be difficult, might just be a better place to start)
---
That's not how it works. You posed the CMV. Back up your POV.
---
My CMV isn't about a broad based definition of cheating. It's about whether this specific act is cheating. I mean, y... | nerndb | CMV: grind dancing with someone other than your partner is cheating | I don't know why anyone would even go for monogamy in current year, but if you are, how is rubbing naughty bits that way not cheating?
Makes no sense. You're literally rubbing up on some stranger, potentially getting aroused, probably drunk, probably surrounded by other people grind dancing who progress beyond that, ... | OddAlternatives | 5 | 4 | [
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"author": "yukon-cornelius69",
"id": "gyhppv6",
"score": 23,
"text": "I mean, the only response to that i have is that the definition of “cheating” is very subjective. Those are boundaries that should be set by each couple. I used to grind with my female friend at the club while she had a bf, in r... | [
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"author": "NouAlfa",
"id": "gyhr4rm",
"score": 2,
"text": "What's your definition of \"cheating\"?",
"timestamp": 1621285818
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"author": "OddAlternatives",
"id": "gyhrlqb",
"score": -2,
"text": "What's yours? (I'm not trying to be difficult, might just be a better place ... | [
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CMV: People of all ages should be able to vote, with children being able to let their parents exercise their votes.
Voting is about attaining through politics one's self-interest, their groups' interests, and the interests of one's country. By having voting, democracy is able to come up with the best possible governme... | No one should be able to vote that can't fill out the forms themselves. American votes aren't and shouldn't be transferable. If kiddo is too small to fill out the form properly by themselves, they are surely not capable of casting a thoughtful vote either.
---
Why is the ability to write connected to the ability to t... | This would cause people to have extra children in an attempt to get more votes for their preferred candidates. I don't think we want to encourage that.
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How could someone do this, in light of the costs of raising a child versus the benefit of an extra vote?
---
Rich people could afford extra children easily. Do ... | 7zl8o2 | CMV: People of all ages should be able to vote, with children being able to let their parents exercise their votes. | Voting is about attaining through politics one's self-interest, their groups' interests, and the interests of one's country. By having voting, democracy is able to come up with the best possible governments by figuring out who is going to benefit the most possible people. If children can vote, they can improve the qual... | Chackoony | 3 | 3 | [
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"author": "rliant1864",
"id": "duovgic",
"score": 12,
"text": "No one should be able to vote that can't fill out the forms themselves. American votes aren't and shouldn't be transferable. If kiddo is too small to fill out the form properly by themselves, they are surely not capable of casting a th... | [
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"author": "Hellioning",
"id": "duovhk0",
"score": 15,
"text": "This would cause people to have extra children in an attempt to get more votes for their preferred candidates. I don't think we want to encourage that.",
"timestamp": 1519358921
},
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"author": "Chackoony",
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