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CMV: The Catholic faith in Canada should be designated a terrorist organization
Following the discovery of mass graves of indigenous children in Canada who died in unsanitary conditions or were straight up murdered in Indian Residential Schools run by catholics and the decision for a catholic school board to never hir... | "and the decision for a catholic school board to never hire my mother in 40 years as a full-time teacher due to her divorced status (interviewer wrote 'Divorced therefore unstable' on her resume in the 70s and it was discovered in her personnel file and remains there to this day.
They refuse to remove said document... | This is under the false pretense of what terrorism actually entails. Terrorism is "*the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims"*. The Catholic Church are not doing so in Canada, even if there actions were unethical in the past. Secondly, you cannot ho... | o7dcz2 | CMV: The Catholic faith in Canada should be designated a terrorist organization | Following the discovery of mass graves of indigenous children in Canada who died in unsanitary conditions or were straight up murdered in Indian Residential Schools run by catholics and the decision for a catholic school board to never hire my mother in 40 years as a full-time teacher due to her divorced status (interv... | Rewow | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: All men are gay.
**TITLE EDIT** : **STRAIGHT MEN DON'T EXIST**
(MY MAIN POINT IS THAT MEN ARE EITHER GAY OR BISEXUAL)
I've suspected this for a long time now. I originally posted the following in another subreddit but it closed before it could get any traction, then someone reposted it online where it got a li... | [There's no shortage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation) of studies finding that most people are heterosexual.
Are all of these studies more unreliable than your anecdotal experience?
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**[Demographics_of_sexual_orientation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orient... | Not this in OP's comment history:
"No he isn't okay with it. Like the others said, anyone who says otherwise is just twisting his word to fit their own messed up lifestyle, because they are so unwilling to change.
I am in nursing school and every professor, every nurse, and every doctor who I have ever encountered te... | neji1a | CMV: All men are gay. | **TITLE EDIT** : **STRAIGHT MEN DON'T EXIST**
(MY MAIN POINT IS THAT MEN ARE EITHER GAY OR BISEXUAL)
I've suspected this for a long time now. I originally posted the following in another subreddit but it closed before it could get any traction, then someone reposted it online where it got a little more attention. An... | ki_lee3 | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: All men are gay.
**TITLE EDIT** : **STRAIGHT MEN DON'T EXIST**
(MY MAIN POINT IS THAT MEN ARE EITHER GAY OR BISEXUAL)
I've suspected this for a long time now. I originally posted the following in another subreddit but it closed before it could get any traction, then someone reposted it online where it got a li... | [There's no shortage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation) of studies finding that most people are heterosexual.
Are all of these studies more unreliable than your anecdotal experience?
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**[Demographics_of_sexual_orientation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orient... | >I have dated 3 men in my life and believe it or not, they each turned out to be gay.
Ya, that's what's called anecdotal evidence. You shouldn't base your worldview off that because you'll get a skewed perception of life. Also, you should stop dating gay dudes.
>They understand each other in a way that women cannot (... | neji1a | CMV: All men are gay. | **TITLE EDIT** : **STRAIGHT MEN DON'T EXIST**
(MY MAIN POINT IS THAT MEN ARE EITHER GAY OR BISEXUAL)
I've suspected this for a long time now. I originally posted the following in another subreddit but it closed before it could get any traction, then someone reposted it online where it got a little more attention. An... | ki_lee3 | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: All men are gay.
**TITLE EDIT** : **STRAIGHT MEN DON'T EXIST**
(MY MAIN POINT IS THAT MEN ARE EITHER GAY OR BISEXUAL)
I've suspected this for a long time now. I originally posted the following in another subreddit but it closed before it could get any traction, then someone reposted it online where it got a li... | [There's no shortage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation) of studies finding that most people are heterosexual.
Are all of these studies more unreliable than your anecdotal experience?
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**[Demographics_of_sexual_orientation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orient... | Not this in OP's comment history:
"No he isn't okay with it. Like the others said, anyone who says otherwise is just twisting his word to fit their own messed up lifestyle, because they are so unwilling to change.
I am in nursing school and every professor, every nurse, and every doctor who I have ever encountered te... | neji1a | CMV: All men are gay. | **TITLE EDIT** : **STRAIGHT MEN DON'T EXIST**
(MY MAIN POINT IS THAT MEN ARE EITHER GAY OR BISEXUAL)
I've suspected this for a long time now. I originally posted the following in another subreddit but it closed before it could get any traction, then someone reposted it online where it got a little more attention. An... | ki_lee3 | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: there are more than two genders
Like the title says theres more than two genders, with the amount of technology we have now we can change people to other genders or even more recently we can do things like be a non binary so that makes 4 genders and then theres things like wolfkin and bisexual so that makes 6 gen... | ain´t bisexual/trans people admitting there are only two genders?
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Okay I have to write why you changed my view or this robot spams my shit, you are correct by saying bisexual you are admitting to two genders as bi=2 so technically yes there are going to be two genders. However there is still the trans and... | Trans isn't a gender. Being bisexual isn't a gender. Wolfkin isn't really a thing. Nonbinary isn't really 1 gender as it's an umbrella term for falling outside the gender binary.
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Who are you to say what's a gender and what's not? Trans people go through a lot just for people like you to say there not a gender... ... | qvxtnl | CMV: there are more than two genders | Like the title says theres more than two genders, with the amount of technology we have now we can change people to other genders or even more recently we can do things like be a non binary so that makes 4 genders and then theres things like wolfkin and bisexual so that makes 6 genders
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CMV: auto-moderator bots ruin Reddit.
I get why subreddits use auto-moderator bots, but because they aren’t human, they often make mistakes. They are usually set up to detect specific words or phrases, but without context often remove posts, despite them following the rules, just using one specific word to help their ... | > I think human moderation, especially for bigger subreddits for both of these, would be much more efficient.
Efficient for who?
Larger subreddits receive thousands / tens of thousands of submissions per day. It's unreasonable for anyone to review every title manually, especially since moderators are volunteers.
A... | You stated it ruins reddit. wouldn't it be more accurate to say it mildly inconveniences you and massively reduces the workload of mods?
Where do you suggest we get this massive influx of human mods? It's already very hard recruiting and training people.
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Saying it “ruins” is just a hyperbole in this circumstance... | cvovju | CMV: auto-moderator bots ruin Reddit. | I get why subreddits use auto-moderator bots, but because they aren’t human, they often make mistakes. They are usually set up to detect specific words or phrases, but without context often remove posts, despite them following the rules, just using one specific word to help their post
Personal examples of this include... | Azspilicueltas | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: All political stances ultimately divide into being supported by verifiable fact or virtuous principle.
There is no in-between; many debated topics are divide in this manor and although individual arguments may be mixed among the two standpoints, there is always one argument that is mostly based on circumstantial ... | "there is always one argument that is mostly based on circumstantial evidence and one argument based of hopeful optimism."
I think the word "circumstantial " isn't saying what you want it to be saying in this sentence.
Because "circumstantial evidence" is evidence that might be meaningful/relevant... or it might not.... | What is the virtuous principle that drives the denial of Systemic Racism in America?
What is virtuous about oppressing, murdering, marginalizing, and brutalizing citizens?
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I would say the Virtue is that people can always see each other as equals. Though there may be apparent fallacies, the denial of Systemic Rac... | o7cpvm | CMV: All political stances ultimately divide into being supported by verifiable fact or virtuous principle. | There is no in-between; many debated topics are divide in this manor and although individual arguments may be mixed among the two standpoints, there is always one argument that is mostly based on circumstantial evidence and one argument based of hopeful optimism.
Climate-change and the people arguing for a social cor... | VampiresCanSuckIt | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: the trade war with China is completely justified
The Chinese government has been stealing American technologies, putting Uighur’s in concentration camps, censoring their internet, oppressing Hong Kong, and is engaged in organ harvesting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioner... | A trade war has nothing to do with uighurs or human rights. The things that ends a trade war are economic agreements. Are you calling for sanctions?
A trade war doesn't need moral justification, just financial ones.
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I would call for sanctions but I think it would gut the US economy, I think tariffs are better be... | The trade war isn't about China, it's about Trump weakening his political enemies in America. If the West were worried about China they would end Globalization, that's the real problem, that's what China is winning and they will continue to win it despite this trade war.
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How does the trade war weaken trump’s poli... | cvp4u3 | CMV: the trade war with China is completely justified | The Chinese government has been stealing American technologies, putting Uighur’s in concentration camps, censoring their internet, oppressing Hong Kong, and is engaged in organ harvesting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China
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CMV: the trade war with China is completely justified
The Chinese government has been stealing American technologies, putting Uighur’s in concentration camps, censoring their internet, oppressing Hong Kong, and is engaged in organ harvesting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioner... | The problem is that Trump is not engaging in this trade war because Uighur's, censorship, Hong Kong or Organ Harvesting. As such, the tariffs do not impose any pressure on China to change all that.
Trump is upset with China because of the trade balance, and his tariffs aren't going to solve that.
As such, the trade ... | A trade war has nothing to do with uighurs or human rights. The things that ends a trade war are economic agreements. Are you calling for sanctions?
A trade war doesn't need moral justification, just financial ones.
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I would call for sanctions but I think it would gut the US economy, I think tariffs are better be... | cvp4u3 | CMV: the trade war with China is completely justified | The Chinese government has been stealing American technologies, putting Uighur’s in concentration camps, censoring their internet, oppressing Hong Kong, and is engaged in organ harvesting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China
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CMV: It should be easier to remove problem students from the learning environment.
My understanding is that there’s a ton of bureaucracy when it comes to removing students from the learning environment mainly due to No Child Left Behind. That is, you need to prove various interventions are not working. All this takes ... | What do we do with those students that are removed?
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Presumably the administration would talk with them, maybe counselors can develop coping skills, or some type of intervention. Potentially put them in alternative schools. It seems like there’s a tough choice of who gets the teacher’s attention as there is a limi... | So, first a few things.
You mention "problem students" rather vaguely. Based on your description, it sounds like you're talking more specifically about students with disabilities who might be disruptive due to their disability? Could you be a bit more specific by what you mean by "disruptive"?
In any case, in the ... | dwdwm5 | CMV: It should be easier to remove problem students from the learning environment. | My understanding is that there’s a ton of bureaucracy when it comes to removing students from the learning environment mainly due to No Child Left Behind. That is, you need to prove various interventions are not working. All this takes time/energy/resources away from other students who are in the class to learn.
I’ve... | Aruthian | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Saying communist genocides didn’t happen is as bad or worse then saying the holocaust didn’t happen.
I’ve found several subreddits that say communism in the ussr and China didn’t kill anyone. This in my opinion is worse then saying the holocaust didn’t happen. If you say something like the holocaust is fake then ... | The commonly cited figure that communism has killed 100 million people comes from a book called the Black Book of Communism, which heavily inflated the numbers. One of the authors was obsessed with reaching the number 100 million, he even counted the deaths of Nazi soldiers at the hands of USSR soldiers and attributed... | My dude, thats a bit of incoherent rumbling.
Your title speaks about denying communist genocides. Maybe you mean holodomor? Or are you talking about people downplaying the terror of SSSR regime and current Chinese regime? I cant really tell
> If you say something like the holocaust is fake then you know that there a... | j9tbgd | CMV: Saying communist genocides didn’t happen is as bad or worse then saying the holocaust didn’t happen. | I’ve found several subreddits that say communism in the ussr and China didn’t kill anyone. This in my opinion is worse then saying the holocaust didn’t happen. If you say something like the holocaust is fake then you know that there a anti Jewish nazi. But people actively believe this shit. It is horrible that it’s soc... | jimmyjohnsongs | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Reddit’s discourse on China and the issues surrounding it is extremely toxic and problematic, and has done more to spread Sinophobia and anti-Chinese sentiment than anything else
Anyone who has spent a significant amount of time on mainstream subreddits over the past several months has probably noticed that there... | You're making a content-independent argument here. Everything you say could be true independent of whether or not the criticisms themselves are accurate.
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I'm not totally sure if I understand what you mean by that, but I think that was part of my intent. I would rather not get bogged down in the details of specifi... | I mean yeah, but China is run by a Communist dictatorship. They are literally putting an entire ethnic group in internment camps and "vanishing" them. It's hard to have a positive outlook on a government that's currently carrying out ethnic cleansing.
You may have noticed a trend of increased posts that criticise China... | dwgcv1 | CMV: Reddit’s discourse on China and the issues surrounding it is extremely toxic and problematic, and has done more to spread Sinophobia and anti-Chinese sentiment than anything else | Anyone who has spent a significant amount of time on mainstream subreddits over the past several months has probably noticed that there has been a profound increase in anti-China submissions lately. That said, I have been picking up on anti-Chinese sentiment for a couple years, including the following tropes:
* Chines... | mcmanusaur | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: As someone who quit smoking, I think shisha is a better alternative and the costs and risks aren't that bad in comparison
Hi CMV,
Some context about me, I quit smoking for good a few years ago, but I continued to smoke shisha / hookah throughout. Now I hate smoking cigarettes, but I enjoy puffing shisha and its ... | The probelm with this statement is that shisha doesn't not filter out all the carcinogenic materials from the smoke but even worse is that shisha makes it easier to smoke a large quantity of the same material. Session on a shisha is like 100 cigarettes because you can still smoke more.
This is why a lot of countries b... | A single bowl of shisha is akin to about 2-3 packs of tobacco and the water doesn’t really do anything. Don’t kid yourself that it’s somehow better for you.
I don’t really have time to post sources to actually change your view, but but felt the need to post so that hopefully you’ll do some research into a view that is... | 8wsnrz | CMV: As someone who quit smoking, I think shisha is a better alternative and the costs and risks aren't that bad in comparison | Hi CMV,
Some context about me, I quit smoking for good a few years ago, but I continued to smoke shisha / hookah throughout. Now I hate smoking cigarettes, but I enjoy puffing shisha and its taste.
I know there isn't much research on this topic, the best thing I found was the WHO report, and that looked troubling. I ... | loopuleasa | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you receive campaign or other money, you should be banned from voting on topics relates to those companies or organizations.
Campaign money and lobbying has always grossed me out morally. Because there is a immediate conflict of interest in whatever you decide or vote upon. I have zero understanding nor trust ... | When *you* donate to candidates, do you then expect them not to enact anything you'd like or are in your interests or even things that are explicitly to your benefit?
In fact, for most people, they expect the candidates to completely ignore their small contribution and yet the candidate still often votes with how that... | [deleted]
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Can you prove they receive money only after the fact they show direct interest?
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I would because one if funding a person who is pushing for that interest, the other is trying to buy politicians.
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[deleted] | 80dsyj | CMV: If you receive campaign or other money, you should be banned from voting on topics relates to those companies or organizations. | Campaign money and lobbying has always grossed me out morally. Because there is a immediate conflict of interest in whatever you decide or vote upon. I have zero understanding nor trust that any politician will just vote where they receive money rather than what the needs of the people who elected them are.
It is cl... | Red_Ryu | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Going Vegan is unsustainable and dangerous to children.
I think the entire world (less specific communities) eats too much meat. Science supports that fact that certain amino acids only available in meat (with the technology we have now) are necessary for neurological development. Even bone broth soup a few times... | >I have been told this simply isn't true, but no one has ever told me why.
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Why? | p1u1fj | CMV: Going Vegan is unsustainable and dangerous to children. | I think the entire world (less specific communities) eats too much meat. Science supports that fact that certain amino acids only available in meat (with the technology we have now) are necessary for neurological development. Even bone broth soup a few times a year is plenty for a grown adult. However, a 100% vegan die... | Svinkta | 3 | 3 | [
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I understand where you are coming from. However, the definition of vegan entails a strict lack of meat-derived foods. It is either a vegan diet, or it is not.
I am trying to understand the train of thought that disagrees with 99.9% vegan, versus 100%.
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The train of thought is "If you don't have t... | >I have been told this simply isn't true, but no one has ever told me why.
Because what's important is what nutrients you are getting, not what delivery mechanism those nutrients came through.
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CMV: Carrying a knife for self-defense is actually pretty dumb.
**EDIT: I'm sure a bunch of more deltas could be awarded but my mind is already changed so you can stop commenting. (I'M NOT READING ANYMORE STOP COMMENTING)**
To clarify the title I'm talking about self-defense for humans, not animals.
Scenarios:
- 1
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When you need to stab someone. Self-defense is never 100%. But there are few situations where having more options at your disposal is worse than having less options.
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>3. Hope they don't have one hidden and kill them or hope they run? What if they don't run? Either try to kill him and not get in trouble while hoping they don't take your knife and kill them instead?
I think you're missing the "take it out to threaten them but not actually do anything" ... | o77byb | CMV: Carrying a knife for self-defense is actually pretty dumb. | **EDIT: I'm sure a bunch of more deltas could be awarded but my mind is already changed so you can stop commenting. (I'M NOT READING ANYMORE STOP COMMENTING)**
To clarify the title I'm talking about self-defense for humans, not animals.
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CMV: Buying cryptocurrency is not investing
This is a true CMV as I'm actively considering crypto as a piece of my portfolio but I keep talking myself out of it. Some background:
I believe digital currency is the future of human transaction and cryptocurrencies are immensely useful. I feel that decentralized currency... | Is this CMV about the definition of investment (i.e. crypto does not meet the definition of investment) or about whether crypto is a good/advisable/wise investment?
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The former - I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea of crypto as an asset that can meet the definition of an investment.
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Verifiable, easily... | Doesn't this hinge on what one defines *investing* to be?
If I bought cryptocurrency 5 years ago at $0.00436/coin, and held to today, later selling at $0.76/coin, I've greatly increased my initial investment. (This is similar to something I recently did)
How is this not investing?
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What definition of investing a... | o74u0d | CMV: Buying cryptocurrency is not investing | This is a true CMV as I'm actively considering crypto as a piece of my portfolio but I keep talking myself out of it. Some background:
I believe digital currency is the future of human transaction and cryptocurrencies are immensely useful. I feel that decentralized currency is also a beautiful, progressive idea.
I'm ... | loldadlol | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:You shouldn't get a hobby or activity with the goal of finding a relationship there.
Let me explain what I mean before you all accuse me of strawmanning. I often here that you should get a hobby or volunteer or something like that to find people to date. On paper that makes sense, it's a place where people are cer... | 1. A lot of people do want to meet a potential partner.
2. Someone trying to get a date doesn't make them a creep. Finding partners has been a normal part of human existence for literally all of humanity, your catigorical demonization of it seems very illogical.
3. This idea that the only time it is ever okay to appro... | I dunno, if people’s hobbies are going to and being at places where people like to flirt with people, it might seem kind of natural to find a relationship there like if you’re really into square dancing at a dance hall or throwing darts at your local dive bar
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Well people shouldn't flirt there. People are there to... | 166ygpx | CMV:You shouldn't get a hobby or activity with the goal of finding a relationship there. | Let me explain what I mean before you all accuse me of strawmanning. I often here that you should get a hobby or volunteer or something like that to find people to date. On paper that makes sense, it's a place where people are certainly going go be. But they aren't there to be hit on, they're there to do whatever the h... | Equivalent-Fix-7313 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: World Athletics decision to not allow athletes who have had male puberty to compete in the female category is a good decision.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZrLPrWCFU&t=11s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZrLPrWCFU&t=11s)
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Putting my view into list form; Hopefully this makes it easier to digest ... | >Stating there is insufficient evidence that hormone therapy completely overcomes the advantages of male puberty is not the same thing as saying there is NO evidence. So, linking me a study that concludes hormone therapy removes the advantages of male puberty won't change my view, since I already am aware those studies... | [deleted]
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Could you link where you read that? My view is that this only has to do with male puberty, and not sex assigned at birth. Knowing that it also includes people who have not had male puberty would change my view.
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Not trying to be difficult, promise. The website isn't loading for me; ... | 12dw4uw | CMV: World Athletics decision to not allow athletes who have had male puberty to compete in the female category is a good decision. | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZrLPrWCFU&t=11s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZrLPrWCFU&t=11s)
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CMV: Gender dysphoria IS a mental illness and it’s nothing to be ashamed of, but we need to stop pretending like it isn’t
EDIT: I’m editing my post because I used the terms disorder and illness as interchangeable when they aren’t. It should be disorder in the title and not illness.
Before I begin, I want to clarify ... | The DSM is useful when, in my opinion, possibly taken with a grain of salt. The field of psychology is ever-shifting and standards are updated to new research and attitudes constantly. Yes, as OP mentioned in their post, homosexuality was once considered a mental illness by the DSM, but I disagree with their analysis o... | >stop pretending that it isn’t
That’s where this falls apart. We aren’t pretending that it isn’t. We’re understanding that a disorder isn’t something broken in a person, but a source of distress caused by a friction between who a person is and what society expects. Meaning it can be addressed by changing the person, o... | f72mwc | CMV: Gender dysphoria IS a mental illness and it’s nothing to be ashamed of, but we need to stop pretending like it isn’t | EDIT: I’m editing my post because I used the terms disorder and illness as interchangeable when they aren’t. It should be disorder in the title and not illness.
Before I begin, I want to clarify that I’m definitely not one of those people who thinks transgender people shouldn’t transition. What I believe and what I u... | GamerTigrr | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I See Nothing Wrong With Burning Books (Specifically Religious Books) Or Flags Or Why Anyone Might View It As Offensive.
Let me start off by saying that I am autistic and this makes it difficult for me to understand why people may feel certain ways. No offence intended to anyone.
I don't understand nor see anyth... | People are trying to convey a message when they burn a flag or holy book - they don’t just go “Hey, I feel like burning something; I suppose this flag will do”. The message that the person doing the burning is trying to convey is obviously not a good one. When people get upset at someone burning one of these objects - ... | [deleted]
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I think you misunderstood. What I meant was a person buys a copy of a religious book, like Quran or Bible, and burns it. A private citizen, not the government.
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Burning a Quran is offensive because you are not only not following the cultures guidelines on how to treat the book but you are intention... | tjfh0a | CMV: I See Nothing Wrong With Burning Books (Specifically Religious Books) Or Flags Or Why Anyone Might View It As Offensive. | Let me start off by saying that I am autistic and this makes it difficult for me to understand why people may feel certain ways. No offence intended to anyone.
I don't understand nor see anything wrong with burning books or flags. For this argument, I am going to focus on religious books.
Say somebody burns The Quran... | AbiLovesTheology | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The idea of a god wanting to be worshipped is nonsensical
All religions have a lot of parallels. But a big one is that the god or gods must be worshipped. If this being created the universe, life, and all of existence, it would have to be some kind of multi-dimensional being with magnitudes of complexity way beyo... | Many religions, particularly the dominant three Abrahamic religions, of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, believe that God created mankind *specifically*. In Islam, he created Adam out of clay by his own work, and in Judaism, he specifically was stated to have created humanity *in his own image*.
So right away, the p... | >If this being created the universe, life, and all of existence, it would have to be some kind of multi-dimensional being with magnitudes of complexity way beyond our understanding. Yet somehow this indescribable, all powerful, all knowing and incomprehensible being has such a human need as to be worshipped?
This is a... | p6ezhy | CMV: The idea of a god wanting to be worshipped is nonsensical | All religions have a lot of parallels. But a big one is that the god or gods must be worshipped. If this being created the universe, life, and all of existence, it would have to be some kind of multi-dimensional being with magnitudes of complexity way beyond our understanding. Yet somehow this indescribable, all powerf... | DependentOk2796 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The ending of Agatha Christie's "Murder on the Orient Express" is morally unacceptable
This post obviously contains spoilers for the mentioned novel.
In "Murder on the Orient Express" the private detective Hercule Poirot finds himself on a train in Europe when a murder occurs. A friend of his, the director of a ... | You call him a kidnapper, but he was a murderer.
He killed a child.
And he was never even charged with the crime.
He had effectively escaped punishment.
So this really does go back to the age old question- what do you do when there is no recourse to the law?
If you knew that someone was a killer, and would kill a... | Part of the point is that these people aren't going to murder anyone else. They only committed murder in this one special case so as to right a wrong. Punishing them would achieve nothing as they are not a danger to anyone else and the murder wasn't committed with the goal of some other harm.
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In "Murder on the Orient Express" the private detective Hercule Poirot finds himself on a train in Europe when a murder occurs. A friend of his, the director of a train company, asks him to investigate the case.
The victim is a male US-citizen, who is reve... | LifeIsMarvellous | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: 'you are doing that too much. try again in xx minutes' encourages circlejerk
Reddit, sadly, has some tools that make the circlejerk get out of control... one of them is the "'you are doing that too much. try again in xx minutes'"... which happens when you have negative karma in a community...(the original purpose... | I'm not convinced your position is coherent as you're missing the focal point of your complaint.
> Reddit, sadly, has some tools that make the **circlejerk** get out of control... one of them is the "'you are doing that too much. try again in xx minutes'"... which happens when you have negative karma in a community...... | I'm pretty sure many of these subs are okay with or deliberately want to be a circlejerking safe space
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you are right... the desire for it seems to be too prevalent all around in many subs... I don't think it will ever change. | 6hvgnk | CMV: 'you are doing that too much. try again in xx minutes' encourages circlejerk | Reddit, sadly, has some tools that make the circlejerk get out of control... one of them is the "'you are doing that too much. try again in xx minutes'"... which happens when you have negative karma in a community...(the original purpose was to deter trolls, but the side effect is a massive increase in circlejerking). ... | Garlicplanet | 5 | 2 | [
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CMV: politics are too often talked about
I don’t know about everyone else, but I am tired of politics. Everywhere, people are talking about them. At my college, at work, at home at the dinner table, online, in video games. Everywhere. Every time I walk to eat lunch at my college, there would always be at least one per... | To be fair, the way OP phrases this, it sounds like they are tired of the people around them coming off too strong when it comes to politics. I definitely get exhausted when I have to interact with some one who is too extreme in one political direction and comes off too strong, and the anxiety that comes with disagreei... | >There is always a time and a place for politics, and discussions need to be had for societal advancement, but I’m tired of it being all the time. Everyone is wanting to know what others think of Israel vs. Palestine, or abortion, or the border, or the next president, or the various discrimination people face. These ar... | 1cxresf | CMV: politics are too often talked about | I don’t know about everyone else, but I am tired of politics. Everywhere, people are talking about them. At my college, at work, at home at the dinner table, online, in video games. Everywhere. Every time I walk to eat lunch at my college, there would always be at least one person holding a sign for the politic of the ... | Used-Telephone3946 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV - It's okay that society considers fat women less attractive
I agree with the author of [this article](https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2018/07/26/fatphobic-netflix-series-supports-damaging-stereotypes-for-young-women.html) as far as the premise of the show being shallow. The message also seems patheti... | It's not that the traditional image of an attractive woman is necessarily bad. You're right. People do tend to like fit and healthy individuals. But it's not the *only* correct way to live. That's literally all this is. It's a push back against "there is only one way to be seen as beautiful".
It's similar to why peop... | I would like to point out just one thing here. Societies definition of what is and isn't attractive is ever changing and entirely based upon culture. Marilyn Monroe was 5'5 and wore a size 12 and was considered to be one of the most beautiful women of her generation. By today's standards, she would be fat and therefore... | 929yze | CMV - It's okay that society considers fat women less attractive | I agree with the author of [this article](https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2018/07/26/fatphobic-netflix-series-supports-damaging-stereotypes-for-young-women.html) as far as the premise of the show being shallow. The message also seems pathetic and immature: the show seems to be saying that "beauty is a weap... | mthiem | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Postmodernism is toxic and built on fallacious reasoning
I'm going to say outright that there may be some semantical issues here regarding classification, as postmodernism encompasses such a massive body of work over quite a long period of time, and, like many genres, has no official criteria as a definition.
Th... | >"What is medicine?" Is it something that cures you? What about tylenol? Is it something that cures you or makes you feel better when you're feeling sick? What about opium, or getting a pleasant text from someone?"
I don't get what's bad about this line of reasoning. If no one ever thought "are there medicinal uses fo... | I agree that postmodernism is pretty bleak and truly unproductive.
There is not so much a problem in reasoning, but the reasoning is a little 'autistic.' You could argue that a man or woman with 1 hair left on his or her head, is by definition not bald, purely by sticking to argument, but what is the use? Anyone can ... | 7fxich | CMV: Postmodernism is toxic and built on fallacious reasoning | I'm going to say outright that there may be some semantical issues here regarding classification, as postmodernism encompasses such a massive body of work over quite a long period of time, and, like many genres, has no official criteria as a definition.
That being said, I hope the definition and explanation I'm provid... | Morble | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't think objectifying women is a bad thing if the women in question are animated characters.
With things like the Dead or Alive volleyball games or comic books I don't think it's degrading to women because they're just a bunch of polygons in a computer, not real human beings. Saying they are feels comparabl... | The strongest argument against this that I have seen is this,
It encourages behavior and parts of your brain are chemically changed and “rewired” to always want more. It’s basically the same argument against porn that it eventually changes your brain’s image of what sex is supposed to be. Tbh, I’ve never read any of ... | All live-action characters are basically 2D animations, no? They're all pixels on a screen. There must be something more than that to be a distinction for you, right?
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CMV: Antisemitism being equated to anti-zionism is racist ideology.
I just want to start this off by saying my judgment of Israel comes from the general harm caused to Isrealis, Palestinians , and anyone else caught in crossfire. I understand antisemitism has been and can promotes racism, violence, and political extre... | Zionism is the national movement for an independent sovereign state for the Jewish people. It is not necessarily tied to the land of Israel-Palestine. Zionism is pretty much a linguistic affectation for saying Jewish nationalism. So saying you are antizionist is really proclaiming that you are anti- Jewish nationalism.... | what the fuck is your main point. you wrote a lot of words but I cant even see a fucking thesis.
Is it "Antizionism is not Antiseminitsm". If so then that a astatement that technially true. But imagine if someone was talking about Obama and went "Im not racist but \[OBAMA\]". You know their full of shit.
That statmen... | 1d3t1zv | CMV: Antisemitism being equated to anti-zionism is racist ideology. | I just want to start this off by saying my judgment of Israel comes from the general harm caused to Isrealis, Palestinians , and anyone else caught in crossfire. I understand antisemitism has been and can promotes racism, violence, and political extremists.
1. White nationalism is still running wild, there is a reason... | PickNo2380 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The brown and black stripes on the pride flag are completely unnecessary at best and at worst racist.
My view is predicated on the following:
* The brown and black stripes are there to represent queer people of color.
* The original rainbow pride flag was never a whites-only pride flag.
* White queer people, que... | According to [this source](https://www.verywellmind.com/what-the-colors-of-the-new-pride-flag-mean-5189173#:~:text=1%20Red.%20The%20red%20in%20the%20flag%20represents,flag%20was%20for%20serenity.%20%2E%2E%2E%206%20Purple.%20), and [this source](https://www.colorsexplained.com/pride-flags-color-meanings/), the black and... | [deleted]
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What lmao? Why would any logical human assume that only white people can be gay.
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[deleted] | vm6z5k | CMV: The brown and black stripes on the pride flag are completely unnecessary at best and at worst racist. | My view is predicated on the following:
* The brown and black stripes are there to represent queer people of color.
* The original rainbow pride flag was never a whites-only pride flag.
* White queer people, queer people of Asian descent, and pacific islander queer people are not having their races represented on this... | Smorgasborf | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV : Anonymity on the internet is a "net" negative.
I understand there are plusses to anonymity, but when taken as a whole there is a net negative effect on humanity.
To give a few examples, but by no means is this meant to be an exhaustive list... the ability to spew vitriol, hate, and recruit cult susceptible per... | Anonymity on the internet allows us to use the internet to talk to each other like human beings.
Sure, it means that sometimes people are assholes. But it also gives people a chance to share ideas and ask questions that might be controversial or even just embarrassing. Would anyone ever be able to ask a question abou... | >I'm open to changing my view if you can show how the world is better today than it was in 1990 and in some part that can be attributed to the anonymity the internet allows.
Perhaps the best example of this is the Arab Spring. Many of the protests that happened as a part of those events were organized using social me... | 7fvvlj | CMV : Anonymity on the internet is a "net" negative. | I understand there are plusses to anonymity, but when taken as a whole there is a net negative effect on humanity.
To give a few examples, but by no means is this meant to be an exhaustive list... the ability to spew vitriol, hate, and recruit cult susceptible personalities with no real world consequences - thanks to... | TrumpPedophiles | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Time wasting in sports is an artform and can still be thoroughly enjoyable to watch.
There are lots of things in sports that some fans of that sport really don't like.
For me, my sport is football (soccer). The two main things that come to mind that people commonly say are "ruining the game" are diving (floppin... | Depends on a sport?
I don't want to see 2 wrestlers circle each other for 10 minutes.
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Okay, interesting point, is there any sort of equivalent in combat sports though? Like if a boxer say has clearly won enough rounds to win the fight, do they ever wind down the clock and take things easy for the later rounds?
... | The reason why time-wasting is hated so much is because it portrays a lack of belief in one’s own skill. If you’re a good team, you can ‘run down the clock’ without resorting to shady tactics. You have 5 mins left and a lead to hold on to? Control the ball and don’t lose possession, either defensively or offensively. P... | ybq7ik | CMV: Time wasting in sports is an artform and can still be thoroughly enjoyable to watch. | There are lots of things in sports that some fans of that sport really don't like.
For me, my sport is football (soccer). The two main things that come to mind that people commonly say are "ruining the game" are diving (flopping/simulating) and time wasting (running down the clock).
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CMV: Time wasting in sports is an artform and can still be thoroughly enjoyable to watch.
There are lots of things in sports that some fans of that sport really don't like.
For me, my sport is football (soccer). The two main things that come to mind that people commonly say are "ruining the game" are diving (floppin... | Depends on a sport?
I don't want to see 2 wrestlers circle each other for 10 minutes.
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Okay, interesting point, is there any sort of equivalent in combat sports though? Like if a boxer say has clearly won enough rounds to win the fight, do they ever wind down the clock and take things easy for the later rounds?
... | The reason why time-wasting is hated so much is because it portrays a lack of belief in one’s own skill. If you’re a good team, you can ‘run down the clock’ without resorting to shady tactics. You have 5 mins left and a lead to hold on to? Control the ball and don’t lose possession, either defensively or offensively. P... | ybq7ik | CMV: Time wasting in sports is an artform and can still be thoroughly enjoyable to watch. | There are lots of things in sports that some fans of that sport really don't like.
For me, my sport is football (soccer). The two main things that come to mind that people commonly say are "ruining the game" are diving (flopping/simulating) and time wasting (running down the clock).
I think it's a ridiculous hot tak... | AaliyahK12 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Revolvers are overrated
They have low shot capacity, cannot run a suppressor, not as likely to have picatiny rails for accessories, are usually more expensive than auto loaders nowadays, reloading fast takes more practice, not as reliable as people make them out to be, wider and thus harder to conceal carry than ... | No one is claiming they are some wonder weapon. People use them because they are old, simple weapons with cultural ties to the old west.
It's perfectly adequate for 99.99% of people's needs and some people just like them.
I have never herd anyone say they are better than modern auto loaders.
To me, it seems like the... | Who's claiming that they're so good and what exactly are they claiming they're so good at?
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Accuracy and reliability
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And who? | i0w20c | CMV: Revolvers are overrated | They have low shot capacity, cannot run a suppressor, not as likely to have picatiny rails for accessories, are usually more expensive than auto loaders nowadays, reloading fast takes more practice, not as reliable as people make them out to be, wider and thus harder to conceal carry than auto loaders and double action... | overhardeggs | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The “neurophysiological immaturity” justification for student debt relief is flawed.
A common justification for student loan debt forgiveness in the US suggests that 18 year olds have not yet completed neurophysiological brain development and therefore lack the maturity to take on financial commitments.
I conte... | The neurophysical immaturity argument does not base it's claims on the idea that teenagers can not do math, so your counter-argument misses the point entirely.
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Surely the ability to demonstrate competency in math is related to the moral debate surrounding taking on financial debt at a set interest rate. Can you c... | That’s like saying my cat is really good at getting on the roof so clearly it knows how to fly
---
Uh, no. I am not convinced of this parallel.
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Did you try taking a SAT about it though? | ybo55b | CMV: The “neurophysiological immaturity” justification for student debt relief is flawed. | A common justification for student loan debt forgiveness in the US suggests that 18 year olds have not yet completed neurophysiological brain development and therefore lack the maturity to take on financial commitments.
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CMV: My turtle is epic.
What's so epic about my turtle, you might ask? Here's a list!
1. Never says anything mean to me
2. Really fit (swims a lot)
3. Doesn't do drugs
4. Peaceful
5. Strong bones
6. Neat claws
7. Long neck
8. Can extend neck really far
9. Drinks water
10. Doesn't say the racial slurs (most of the tim... | >Peaceful
Really? Because you also said...
>Ate all her fish friends to assert dominance
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ΔI gotta admit, she can be pretty unpredictable, but yeah, your comment definitely makes sense.
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I saw something once saying that we shouldn’t call certain pets peaceful if they aren’t capable of violence. They’re harm... | >Ate all her fish friends to assert dominance
This seems like the opposite of epic. Imagine if one of your friends ate your face to "assert dominance".
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**Δ** It's not very epic to eat friends. Your argument makes sense.
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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Puddinglax ([27∆](/r/changemyview/wiki/user/Puddingl... | emefgk | CMV: My turtle is epic. | What's so epic about my turtle, you might ask? Here's a list!
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CMV: Being "pro-life," but also supporting the scaling back of social programs to support the poor, is hypocritical
Most, if not all, of who support the restriction of abortion rights in the US tend to refer to themselves as "pro-life." I believe that "anti-abortion" is a better name for these people, as the behavior ... | It's hypocritical if we purely look at semantics, but you're right, "pro-life" is just a euphemism for the anti-abortion movement.
If you had to ask them to define what "pro-life" meant, I really doubt it would be about a utilitarian desire to make everyone better off. So when we start talking about "well why don't yo... | Being "pro-choice" but also supporting the scaling back of discriminatory hiring practices to exclude minorities is hypocritical
Why is the above statement ridiculous? Because it has nothing to do with abortion, and is a play-on-words of the abortion stance "pro-choice" rather than a legitimate argument. The statemen... | 6hu8ka | CMV: Being "pro-life," but also supporting the scaling back of social programs to support the poor, is hypocritical | Most, if not all, of who support the restriction of abortion rights in the US tend to refer to themselves as "pro-life." I believe that "anti-abortion" is a better name for these people, as the behavior of many of them are anything but "pro-life."
Pro-lifers focus on preventing the act of abortion, which by extension ... | FishFollower74 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Being "pro-life," but also supporting the scaling back of social programs to support the poor, is hypocritical
Most, if not all, of who support the restriction of abortion rights in the US tend to refer to themselves as "pro-life." I believe that "anti-abortion" is a better name for these people, as the behavior ... | Your stance on abortion has nothing to do with your stances on support for the poor. Therefore it is not possible to be hypocritical.
---
So...if your stance on abortion is "protect the fetus," but you don't believe that the government or society or whatever should do anything to support said fetus - or the mother -... | It's hypocritical if we purely look at semantics, but you're right, "pro-life" is just a euphemism for the anti-abortion movement.
If you had to ask them to define what "pro-life" meant, I really doubt it would be about a utilitarian desire to make everyone better off. So when we start talking about "well why don't yo... | 6hu8ka | CMV: Being "pro-life," but also supporting the scaling back of social programs to support the poor, is hypocritical | Most, if not all, of who support the restriction of abortion rights in the US tend to refer to themselves as "pro-life." I believe that "anti-abortion" is a better name for these people, as the behavior of many of them are anything but "pro-life."
Pro-lifers focus on preventing the act of abortion, which by extension ... | FishFollower74 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Nudity in TV Series/Movies should be censored.
Nudity has become an integral part of our society. It's not rare nowadays for TV Shows and Movies to contain nudity either as plot or fan service.
I may come as a bit conservative but nudity should be censored in TV Series/Movies. I am not talking about Japanese Pix... | If you are an actor and there is a nude scene you are giving your consent to that naked scene by signing your contract.
There is a large difference in a nude scene based on a actress or actor's work and a picture stolen from their cell phone. Those are not the same ideas.
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I agree they are both two different co... | What’s really your argument here? You don’t seem to have much besides “it’s weird” and “I just don’t think it should be this way”.
Nudity can serve to advance the plot, as you’ve said. To clarify, what shows are you talking about exactly where nudity is unnecessary to the plot?
Even if it is unnecessary, is that an i... | 7fsv73 | CMV: Nudity in TV Series/Movies should be censored. | Nudity has become an integral part of our society. It's not rare nowadays for TV Shows and Movies to contain nudity either as plot or fan service.
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Nudity has become an integral part of our society. It's not rare nowadays for TV Shows and Movies to contain nudity either as plot or fan service.
I may come as a bit conservative but nudity should be censored in TV Series/Movies. I am not talking about Japanese Pix... | What’s really your argument here? You don’t seem to have much besides “it’s weird” and “I just don’t think it should be this way”.
Nudity can serve to advance the plot, as you’ve said. To clarify, what shows are you talking about exactly where nudity is unnecessary to the plot?
Even if it is unnecessary, is that an i... | It all depends on who the show/movie is aimed at- for kids/younger people its obviously a big deal and nudity (actual or implied) should be kept to a minimum or non-existent. For older people, its more...socially acceptable is the term that comes to mind for nudity to be in what they watch. Ifthe person doesnt want to ... | 7fsv73 | CMV: Nudity in TV Series/Movies should be censored. | Nudity has become an integral part of our society. It's not rare nowadays for TV Shows and Movies to contain nudity either as plot or fan service.
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Nudity has become an integral part of our society. It's not rare nowadays for TV Shows and Movies to contain nudity either as plot or fan service.
I may come as a bit conservative but nudity should be censored in TV Series/Movies. I am not talking about Japanese Pix... | What’s really your argument here? You don’t seem to have much besides “it’s weird” and “I just don’t think it should be this way”.
Nudity can serve to advance the plot, as you’ve said. To clarify, what shows are you talking about exactly where nudity is unnecessary to the plot?
Even if it is unnecessary, is that an i... | If you are an actor and there is a nude scene you are giving your consent to that naked scene by signing your contract.
There is a large difference in a nude scene based on a actress or actor's work and a picture stolen from their cell phone. Those are not the same ideas.
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I agree they are both two different co... | 7fsv73 | CMV: Nudity in TV Series/Movies should be censored. | Nudity has become an integral part of our society. It's not rare nowadays for TV Shows and Movies to contain nudity either as plot or fan service.
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Nudity has become an integral part of our society. It's not rare nowadays for TV Shows and Movies to contain nudity either as plot or fan service.
I may come as a bit conservative but nudity should be censored in TV Series/Movies. I am not talking about Japanese Pix... | I actually think we should have more nudity in the world. Hiding bodies makes people (particularly young people) feel weird and ashamed about their own bodies. You can't hide naked bodies from kids forever, so eventually they see one and it looks different than theirs. If there was more nudity, and/or people were more ... | Every person whose genitals have been shown on television and TV have explicitly agreed to have their genitals shown. It's not like a TV show could legally show people's genitals that haven't agreed to it. And if they've agreed to it, why would it be wrong?
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I totally agree with you, but also from a viewing entert... | 7fsv73 | CMV: Nudity in TV Series/Movies should be censored. | Nudity has become an integral part of our society. It's not rare nowadays for TV Shows and Movies to contain nudity either as plot or fan service.
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CMV: Ken Jennings' "Hoe" answer should have been correct.
Was reading some stuff about the Jeopardy GOAT tournament they're doing, and people brought up a [Jeopardy-famous moment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpKOm-LLRhA) from Ken Jennings' original run.
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Ok I went and checked Webster's and yeah, they have "ho" down for slang for a prostitute, and "hoe" for the tool. So I'll grant it on the spelling difference being a plausible reason it's wrong. Have a !delta.
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You were a li... | This is what Ken Jennings has to say on the matter, from his website:
> Many people who bring this up seem to feel I wuz robbed, but I think the additional “e” disqualifies my answer. (The street-corner spelling of “ho” has been well-established since Eddie Murphy played Velvet Jones on SNL, if not before.)
Source: h... | emecak | CMV: Ken Jennings' "Hoe" answer should have been correct. | Was reading some stuff about the Jeopardy GOAT tournament they're doing, and people brought up a [Jeopardy-famous moment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpKOm-LLRhA) from Ken Jennings' original run.
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CMV: Tolerance is a cop-out and hardly achieves good nowadays
The promotion of tolerance has, in general, been a good thing for society. It allowed people with conflicting views to acknowledge the existence of each other and respect each other’s beliefs. But I feel like people have either lost sight of the fact that t... | So what exactly are you saying? That vegans and pro-lifers should form militias and violently destroy meat-serving restaurants and abortion clinics?
The virtues of tolerance seem evident *in your post*. If everyone adopted the extreme position, "Anyone who disagrees with me is an evil menace and shall not be tolerated... | Yet somehow, vegans are not actually killing or beating up meat eaters. Most even have meat eating friends. I regard that as a major win for tolerance!
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CMV: An age difference (by itself) is not a bad thing
What I mean "by itself" is that if the age difference is the only red flag, then it's no problem imo.
Anyway, my whole life I'd been told growing up that so long as two people are legal it really does not matter what age they are, and I've got two reasons for this... | [deleted]
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“What the fuck would a, say, 30 year old have in common with an 18 year old?”
Similar hobbies and interests, similar moral values and beliefs, compatible personalities, similar goals, and depending on the circumstances of each individual’s life, similar life experiences. All things that would make the... | When you narrow down your view this specifically - you are correct. Your view is basically "A relationship with a large age gap but no other problems has no other problems". So yeh, its recursive. It proves itself.
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Well, you could address whether the age gap itself is a problem.
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True, but then I feel like i... | 12dkih9 | CMV: An age difference (by itself) is not a bad thing | What I mean "by itself" is that if the age difference is the only red flag, then it's no problem imo.
Anyway, my whole life I'd been told growing up that so long as two people are legal it really does not matter what age they are, and I've got two reasons for this. The first is my grandma. When she was 16, she married... | HorsesSuck120 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: There should be additional taxes placed on the streaming profession.
Streaming, like a lot of other industries creates negative externalities. In particular, the act of swatting has yet to be meaningfully mitigated. I think the streamers should pay a small tax to fund the gratuitous cost they place on society by ... | >In particular, the act of swatting has yet to be meaningfully mitigated. I think the streamers should pay a small tax to fund the gratuitous cost they place on society by conducting their day to day operations.
I agree. Further, we should raise the fuel tax to pay for victims of vehicular assault, tax knife dealers a... | Is swatting a common enough occurrence to warrant it?
And if so, then why don't we instead make it illegal for a person who gets swatted to solicit monetary donations to profit off of the swatting?
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I believe so. Swatting was just one example. There are othe... | 7fppgc | CMV: There should be additional taxes placed on the streaming profession. | Streaming, like a lot of other industries creates negative externalities. In particular, the act of swatting has yet to be meaningfully mitigated. I think the streamers should pay a small tax to fund the gratuitous cost they place on society by conducting their day to day operations. Granted, some streamers do incur mo... | championofobscurity | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Transgender identity is different than those of the LGB community and should be considered as such.
Whereas Lesbian, Gay, and Bi-sexuals have a sexual preference in terms of the sexual partners and relationships they choose, the transgender community, rejects their biological sex, which is immutable (gender is a ... | Trans people do not think they can change their biological sex. That's a strawman.
The position most trans people have is that because for nearly all purposes they behave, function, and appear like their desired gender, they ought to be referred to and treated as such. Genitalia and chromosomes really aren't that big... | Transgender people do have a mental illness, Gender dysphoria. The stigma regarding mental illness makes it so that seems like a terribly bad thing, which it isn't.
While it is different than having a sexual preference, it is still very similar and there is commonly overlap. (e.g. people being gay the realizing they a... | 6oj970 | CMV: Transgender identity is different than those of the LGB community and should be considered as such. | Whereas Lesbian, Gay, and Bi-sexuals have a sexual preference in terms of the sexual partners and relationships they choose, the transgender community, rejects their biological sex, which is immutable (gender is a cultural norm, not biological sex). Apart from extreme outlier cases, how do we know that the transgender... | halfasssniper | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I think Clarence Thomas should be impeached.
Just read the news today that for 20 years he’s been taking bribes in the form of favors from a billionaire GOP donor.
That kind of behavior is unbefitting a Supreme Court justice.
I learned in school that supreme court justices are supposed to be apolitical. They a... | Taking Bribes?
Which case was before him that this Donor had Standing in?
Bribes require Quid Pro Quo. Where is it?
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Does it matter? Supreme Court justices shouldn’t take bribes.
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It does matter.
You can't accuse someone of taking bribes if they haven't taken a bribe.
What was he bribed *TO DO*, exact... | > Just read the news today that for 20 years he’s been taking bribes in the form of favors from a billionaire GOP donor.
I did a very quick search, and couldn’t find any news stories on Thomas taking bribes. Could you please provide that, as it is central to your view?
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https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence... | 12dkmbg | CMV: I think Clarence Thomas should be impeached. | Just read the news today that for 20 years he’s been taking bribes in the form of favors from a billionaire GOP donor.
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I learned in school that supreme court justices are supposed to be apolitical. They are supposed to be the third branch in our governmen... | sylphiae | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I think Clarence Thomas should be impeached.
Just read the news today that for 20 years he’s been taking bribes in the form of favors from a billionaire GOP donor.
That kind of behavior is unbefitting a Supreme Court justice.
I learned in school that supreme court justices are supposed to be apolitical. They a... | Taking Bribes?
Which case was before him that this Donor had Standing in?
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I guess the quid pro quo is voting conservative right? I’m not sure what’s next on the GOP agenda, maybe striking down gay marriage or outlawing birth control.
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>I guess the quid pro quo ... | > Just read the news today that for 20 years he’s been taking bribes in the form of favors from a billionaire GOP donor.
I did a very quick search, and couldn’t find any news stories on Thomas taking bribes. Could you please provide that, as it is central to your view?
---
https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence... | 12dkmbg | CMV: I think Clarence Thomas should be impeached. | Just read the news today that for 20 years he’s been taking bribes in the form of favors from a billionaire GOP donor.
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CMV: Abortion being pushed to the states isn't a bad thing
I'm confused about a very specific part of this whole thing and I haven't found an answer yet. Ready? I don't understand why people are upset about the decision today. It isn't about which side of the opinion you have... By the federal government saying tha... | The federal government can still ban abortion. The reason we are talking about the states is because the federal government does not currently have an abortion ban. The ruling doesn't preclude a ban from passing Congress.
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CMV: Pedophilic fanfiction and fanart shouldn't be posted online
**Edit: Will be taking a break as recent comments have been extremely off-topic and the discussion appears to be exhausted. For those pretending to care about kids by accusing me of having done nothing good for kids (lol), please see my most recent pos... | Can you please explain how posting FANTASY actually harms anyone. If some is being groomed then we need to punish the groomer, not somebody writing fiction.
I am concerned with freedom of speech.
We should be able to tolerate speech or artistic expression we disagree with. Even when we deeply disagree with it.
For ... | Can I ask why in the world you want your view changed?
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I'm being called a puritanical prude by people my age online and people I've known since high school. One of my closest friends doesn't think it's a big deal and that it falls under free speech. I don't know if I'm overblowing the risks of this and if stati... | p62vmz | CMV: Pedophilic fanfiction and fanart shouldn't be posted online | **Edit: Will be taking a break as recent comments have been extremely off-topic and the discussion appears to be exhausted. For those pretending to care about kids by accusing me of having done nothing good for kids (lol), please see my most recent post for all the work I've done and consider DMing me for links to th... | pupperonipizzapie | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Pedophilic fanfiction and fanart shouldn't be posted online
**Edit: Will be taking a break as recent comments have been extremely off-topic and the discussion appears to be exhausted. For those pretending to care about kids by accusing me of having done nothing good for kids (lol), please see my most recent pos... | Do you have any evidence that such fanart causes the psychological effects and fosters the communities you claim? If not, do you think that free expression should be curtailed based simply on speculation?
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I don't have any evidence other than anecdotal. Something like this is so new that I don't think anyone has ... | Can you please explain how posting FANTASY actually harms anyone. If some is being groomed then we need to punish the groomer, not somebody writing fiction.
I am concerned with freedom of speech.
We should be able to tolerate speech or artistic expression we disagree with. Even when we deeply disagree with it.
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CMV: AI automation will probably cause mass unemployment
Hello! I've been reading up on automation recently and I've come to believe that it will likely cause mass unemployment. Modern AI is getting so advanced that it can start to replace even service jobs like cashiers and stockers (some of the biggest professions b... | While it may cause unemployment, the government likely won't let these people go without very good support.
A bunch of angry employed people means nothing gets done because everyone needs to go to work.
A bunch of angry unemployed people means protesting, civil unrest, and riots. The government does not want this.
... | Do you mind me asking what your technical background is related to IT? And are we talking about regular old AI as we know it today or like artificial general intelligence?
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None, although I do know my way around Windows 7. I'm talking about both regular AI and general AI.
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So the technology to replace cashie... | vm1b1c | CMV: AI automation will probably cause mass unemployment | Hello! I've been reading up on automation recently and I've come to believe that it will likely cause mass unemployment. Modern AI is getting so advanced that it can start to replace even service jobs like cashiers and stockers (some of the biggest professions btw) and replace parts of other more advanced professions l... | Admirable_Ad1947 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I’m a liberal Democrat. I think abortion should be banned after the first trimester.
To be clear, this is not a troll post. This is my actual belief. because I know someone will ask, if the life of the mother is threatened obviously a late term abortion is fine
Like everyone, I was shocked that Roe V Wade was o... | >I think abortion should be banned after the first trimester.
>I’m not going to stop someone from getting a late term abortion. It’s their choice.
These are fundamentally incompatible views. You can't ban something and at the same time have it be their choice. Banning something literally stops them from doing it. So... | > I’m not going to stop someone from getting a late term abortion. It’s their choice.
This is very much the stance of most liberal and progressive folks.
> going further left on the issue. To the point where they’re saying Abortion is a good thing.
Who is saying this? Do you think women carry a fetus for 6 months an... | 12dakst | CMV: I’m a liberal Democrat. I think abortion should be banned after the first trimester. | To be clear, this is not a troll post. This is my actual belief. because I know someone will ask, if the life of the mother is threatened obviously a late term abortion is fine
Like everyone, I was shocked that Roe V Wade was overturned last summer. But unlike most Liberals, I was ambivalent. I think some states wher... | Throwway-support | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: meth should be legal.
Disclaimer: my argument for legalizing meth boils down to a moral position stated below, which could apply to any and all "Drugs". I chose meth because, I thought it is an extreme example and would appear more provocative.
Reason: I believe that each individual is free to do as they please... | People don't want to be put in situations where they must self-defend. Self-defense is fraught with many problems. You might not successfully defend yourself. You might develop PTSD after shooting somebody. You might not want to carry a gun. You might not actually be entitled to self-defense under the circumstances. We... | First off, I think the FDA and other regulatory agencies have a reasonable and common-sense interest in making sure consumers products are generally safe and effective.
For example, we don't allow things like "Cyanide-Flavored Cheetos" or "Radioactive Advil" to be sold, even if they were clearly marketed as such -- b... | wxo088 | CMV: meth should be legal. | Disclaimer: my argument for legalizing meth boils down to a moral position stated below, which could apply to any and all "Drugs". I chose meth because, I thought it is an extreme example and would appear more provocative.
Reason: I believe that each individual is free to do as they please so long as they don't imped... | o_--_--_--_--_--_o | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Abortion is murder
I believe that abortion is immoral killing, and therefore is morally wrong. That’s not to say it’s *always* morally incorrect, just as killing another human can be morally right in situations of self defense of defense of others.
Abortion is indistinguishable from immoral killing because ulti... | Murder is a legal question.
Assume a fetus is a person for a second — you still wouldn't want to outlaw abortion as murder. There are literally no other circumstances where we would force women to give up their bodily autonomy and medical health so someone *else* can live.
Let's consider a mother who chose not to c... | Your last statement is not based in reality. People have sex all the time and the purpose is not to conceive.
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To add some clarification. OP is obviously wrong because infertile men and women, as well as lesbians and gay men, are all having sex despite being unable to conceive.
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I said heterosexual penetrativ... | i0nl5b | CMV: Abortion is murder | I believe that abortion is immoral killing, and therefore is morally wrong. That’s not to say it’s *always* morally incorrect, just as killing another human can be morally right in situations of self defense of defense of others.
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CMV: Presidential primary polls should mostly be done on ranked scales, not by asking people for their favorites.
There's an article in the New York Times today about Elizabeth Warren's campaign. It talks about how she's becoming one of the candidates who is struggling because of her attempts to unite the left and cen... | I don't know how common it is, but some polls do do this:
https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voters-second-choice-candidates-show-a-race-that-is-still-fluid/
https://www.fairvote.org/democratic_primary_2020_poll#spread_of_democratic_frontrunner_rankings
https://... | As long as voting is done by first choice, why should polling be any different.
Who would win in a ranked choice scenario doesn't matter if the election itself is first past the post.
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Well primaries aren't elections. Theoretically the parties could do the primary voting however they want to and they're currentl... | em2m5i | CMV: Presidential primary polls should mostly be done on ranked scales, not by asking people for their favorites. | There's an article in the New York Times today about Elizabeth Warren's campaign. It talks about how she's becoming one of the candidates who is struggling because of her attempts to unite the left and center factions of the Democratic party.
There's one line in the article that really stuck out to me.
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CMV: Presidential primary polls should mostly be done on ranked scales, not by asking people for their favorites.
There's an article in the New York Times today about Elizabeth Warren's campaign. It talks about how she's becoming one of the candidates who is struggling because of her attempts to unite the left and cen... | You seem to be mixing up polling with the selection process. The parties can do whatever they want, but they currently both hold state by state primaries where voters pick a single candidate. So *polling* should reflect who is likely to win that contest. It wouldn't make any sense for "polls" to show Cruz "leading" the... | I don't know how common it is, but some polls do do this:
https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voters-second-choice-candidates-show-a-race-that-is-still-fluid/
https://www.fairvote.org/democratic_primary_2020_poll#spread_of_democratic_frontrunner_rankings
https://... | em2m5i | CMV: Presidential primary polls should mostly be done on ranked scales, not by asking people for their favorites. | There's an article in the New York Times today about Elizabeth Warren's campaign. It talks about how she's becoming one of the candidates who is struggling because of her attempts to unite the left and center factions of the Democratic party.
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CMV: refusing to vote in the election should not be frowned upon
Why should I vote if I hate both candidates? I don’t get this whole push to get everyone to vote, every time I open any social media all I see is people talking about how it’s important to go vote, and it seems like people who don’t want to vote are sort... | [removed]
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You’re right I do live a fairly privileged life and I’m currently in college so I don’t necessarily contribute, as of now, to society. With these things being said why should I dilute the vote of people who the policies of these politicians would impact the most. Isn’t it unfair to those people that I g... | I mean there's more than one race on the ballot usually for presidential elections there's like 20 other candidates and referendums on your ballot to decide on. I have a hard time believing an informed person wouldn't be able to pick between any of them
>I don’t care enough to spend time reading about the.
I'm sure i... | j6h43k | CMV: refusing to vote in the election should not be frowned upon | Why should I vote if I hate both candidates? I don’t get this whole push to get everyone to vote, every time I open any social media all I see is people talking about how it’s important to go vote, and it seems like people who don’t want to vote are sort of frowned upon. Isn’t not voting my right as well in a democracy... | PrestigiousFarmer543 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The US Should Mandate all Fees/Expenses be Disclosed Up Front As Much As Possible
I believe the United States should legally require ticket sellers like Ticketmaster to provide prices inclusive of all fees and surcharges when shopping for tickets.
Hidden fees distort the free market and make it harder for custom... | >Hidden fees distort the free market and make it harder for customers to fairly do price comparisons. These fees are deceptive and can often add up to 40% of the advertised price.
I strongly believe that if a person cannot afford the 15 seconds to tally up the total cost of something, they are not actually intereste... | > it’s really $70 when I go to checkout.
In other words, they are literally showing you the exact price before you checkout.
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Yes, which is why they should be advertised for $70.
My point is the advertised price should match the checkout price.
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I get that you'd prefer it that way, but what legal basis do y... | 165sjkh | CMV: The US Should Mandate all Fees/Expenses be Disclosed Up Front As Much As Possible | I believe the United States should legally require ticket sellers like Ticketmaster to provide prices inclusive of all fees and surcharges when shopping for tickets.
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CMV: Illinois getting rid of the cash bail system is a horrible idea that is going to result in more people being shot and killed in Chicago
Two points I have:
1. If someone is aware that if they call the cops on someone for armed robbery and they can get out the next day and retaliate, that law abiding citizen is go... | Cash bail doesn’t solve either of those problems - all it does it put a price on it. Someone could easily post bail/bond and retaliate or cause future harm.
The purpose of bail to to ensure that someone shows up for trial. The idea is that if you have cash on the line, you are more likely to not skip a court date. Th... | The abolishment of cash bail does not mean that all defendants are released to the street. If prosecutors can make a convincing argument that they are a danger to themselves or their community, they will not be let out. This is no different than the current system. The only difference is that currently you can also be ... | yb0rah | CMV: Illinois getting rid of the cash bail system is a horrible idea that is going to result in more people being shot and killed in Chicago | Two points I have:
1. If someone is aware that if they call the cops on someone for armed robbery and they can get out the next day and retaliate, that law abiding citizen is going to be more likely to shoot to kill the person rather then deal with the individual at a later date.
2. Some of these inmates who get arre... | Worldpeaceman401 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:The average person has no use for distributed computing, and will not in the foreseeable future.
So, a lot of hype has come up with Ethereum and some other cryptocurrencies offering "smart contracts", where you can pay people on the network to do calculations for you. I believe that the potential market for this ... | There was a time when people said the same thing about needing more than a few megabytes of storage space.
Times change. Standards change. It does not seem inconceivable to me that in the future the average person will need ten times the computational power as they do today.
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That's a point, but what could they ... | The blockchain is very good at keeping track of contracts, so many people could use that part.
As for distributed computing, we already use this a lot, it's just that other companies are paying for it. If the next Google or Facebook is decentralized, having our own low-cost infrastructure could be tremendously useful.... | 7fnlo5 | CMV:The average person has no use for distributed computing, and will not in the foreseeable future. | So, a lot of hype has come up with Ethereum and some other cryptocurrencies offering "smart contracts", where you can pay people on the network to do calculations for you. I believe that the potential market for this service is very small and specialized.
1. Ordinary home computers, or even mobile devices, are more ... | Impacatus | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Elderly people are a burden
I'll start off by saying I'm very open to changing my view. I feel bad for having a hateful opinion on other people, but I feel like I always find examples that reinforce it.
They cannot offer anything to the world, instead they are simply burdens to the health system, receiving p... | [deleted]
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A 30yo like me, has the potential to create a world-changing concept/item/application, start a wildly popular business, commission the building of a monument, lead a nation (arguable, but the world being led by old farts isn't really successful either).
I can offer assistance to the invalid (in our... | Life is meant to be an end in itself. If one sees people as means to an end, it results in totalitarianism and wrecks the rest of society as well.
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I didn't understand your answer very well I think.
Do you mean that people are working towards having a better life in their latter years?
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No. If as a socie... | g82xr2 | CMV: Elderly people are a burden | I'll start off by saying I'm very open to changing my view. I feel bad for having a hateful opinion on other people, but I feel like I always find examples that reinforce it.
They cannot offer anything to the world, instead they are simply burdens to the health system, receiving pension for something they once did... | mechanicarts | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Kids should not be able to, or be encouraged to "come out" and find their sexuality before they're sexually mature
There's been a lot of recent cases where children aged 13 and under have started coming out and embracing their sexuality. This means coming out gay, bisexual, transgender, pansexual, etc.
However ... | Let me tell you a little story. I grew up with a best friend who was my next door neighbor. We were inseparable, but it was clear from day 1 that she was a lesbian. We'd talk about our favorite Disney movies when we were five years old. I would talk about how I was going to marry Aladdin. She would talk about how she w... | I work part time in a preschool. There's a 5-year-old boy in one of the classes that considers himself to be a girl. Sometimes kids have a phase during preschool during which they perceive themselves to belong to an opposite gender, it's a part of the self-exploration process and can last even a few weeks. However, thi... | 6htrd3 | CMV: Kids should not be able to, or be encouraged to "come out" and find their sexuality before they're sexually mature | There's been a lot of recent cases where children aged 13 and under have started coming out and embracing their sexuality. This means coming out gay, bisexual, transgender, pansexual, etc.
However I think kids of that age are not old enough, nor mature enough, to understand what it means by coming out. I know being g... | alaskafish | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: STEM Majors should not be FORCED to take irrelevant electives
This is not a discussion on if taking electives are beneficial. If you’re trying to be in a technical profession (engineer, doctor, pharmacist, scientific researcher, etc), universities should have no right to force you to pay for and spend hours for c... | I'll preface this by saying I have a graduate STEM degree.
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One of the biggest failure modes of people in STEM is the failure to recognize the limitations of the tools STEM offers, and the importance of sitting our technical expertise into a world of humans.
In particular, the human world differs from the kinds... | What you are looking for is a trade school. And they exist. They're often called "programming boot camps." You can sit in a room writing code for nine months, and learn to write code well, and get a certificate. And then you can get a job writing code.
A diploma from a university implies that someone has a university ... | wxlf49 | CMV: STEM Majors should not be FORCED to take irrelevant electives | This is not a discussion on if taking electives are beneficial. If you’re trying to be in a technical profession (engineer, doctor, pharmacist, scientific researcher, etc), universities should have no right to force you to pay for and spend hours for courses in the fine arts that are completely irrelevant to the degree... | canadian12371 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: LGBT activists who forced people and companies into demonstrations should be treated as a criminal organization
***Edit:*** [***yyzjertl***](https://www.reddit.com/user/yyzjertl) ***,*** [***pensivegargoyle***](https://www.reddit.com/user/pensivegargoyle) ***and*** [***phobiciote***](https://www.reddit.com/user/... | "If you don't support our cause we'll tell everyone you didn't support our cause" is not extortion, even if your cause happens to be universally supported to the point that not supporting it is bad for business.
I don't know if they did anything more than that, or if that happens to be illegal under Israeli law, but i... | >Few days ago at least one PR firm have confessed that they used threats to force companies to join their cause.
If this is true, then it is the PR firm, and not the LGBT activists, that broke the law.
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I'm talking about what the story tales and the activists who had been in that operation.
Edit: I have edited o... | 91zvya | CMV: LGBT activists who forced people and companies into demonstrations should be treated as a criminal organization | ***Edit:*** [***yyzjertl***](https://www.reddit.com/user/yyzjertl) ***,*** [***pensivegargoyle***](https://www.reddit.com/user/pensivegargoyle) ***and*** [***phobiciote***](https://www.reddit.com/user/phobiciote) *made fair points that made me question if the events have happened as described in the story.*
In recent... | alyahudi | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Having kids is immoral, and humanity needs to stop
##Premises:
Note: arguments are further down.
Premise 1: **Unborn people do not experience pain.**
This is pretty straightforward. No brain = no pain.
Premise 2: **Unborn people are not deprived of happiness.**
This is very important. Unborn... | Well your entire argument falls apart if I take one thing away. Suffering nor pain are inherently bad. Take that away and your argument has absolutely no legs to stand on.
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Suffering can add great meaning to your life. Humans don't actually take a lot of actions to avoid suffering. They take actio... | Well [ardonpitt](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/7fnpzl/cmv_having_kids_is_immoral_and_humanity_needs_to/dqd2gg9/) has already nailed it, but to drive it home:
You can't say boredom is the justification for human life being instrinsically bad then say one day of happiness is not a counter argument.
The... | 7fnpzl | CMV: Having kids is immoral, and humanity needs to stop | ##Premises:
Note: arguments are further down.
Premise 1: **Unborn people do not experience pain.**
This is pretty straightforward. No brain = no pain.
Premise 2: **Unborn people are not deprived of happiness.**
This is very important. Unborn people are not stolen of happiness because they can't wa... | cant-feel_my-face | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Having kids is immoral, and humanity needs to stop
##Premises:
Note: arguments are further down.
Premise 1: **Unborn people do not experience pain.**
This is pretty straightforward. No brain = no pain.
Premise 2: **Unborn people are not deprived of happiness.**
This is very important. Unborn... | Well your entire argument falls apart if I take one thing away. Suffering nor pain are inherently bad. Take that away and your argument has absolutely no legs to stand on.
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You are forgetting that humans also take actions to bring on suffering intentionally. If you sign up for the Navy and decide ... | > Having kids is immoral...
> Argument 2: Unborn people can't consent to being born.
This appears to be a contradiction. The unborn can't give consent because they do not exist. And if they did exist to give consent, then they must have been born, which you claim to be immoral. In fact, I think your second premise ap... | 7fnpzl | CMV: Having kids is immoral, and humanity needs to stop | ##Premises:
Note: arguments are further down.
Premise 1: **Unborn people do not experience pain.**
This is pretty straightforward. No brain = no pain.
Premise 2: **Unborn people are not deprived of happiness.**
This is very important. Unborn people are not stolen of happiness because they can't wa... | cant-feel_my-face | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Your intelligence is fixed and cannot be changed.
I've believed this ever since I was young. I believe that you're either smart or youre not. And you cannot do anything to change that. It doesn't change what you can potentially do, its just something thats fixed. I really want my mind changed on this but I just k... | it seems like the way you approach intelligence seems to be the basic capacity to do high-level intellectual work. Feel free to correct me if I miss the mark, I just want to nail down what you refer to when talking about intelligence, whether it's capacity or some other property of intelligence therein.
You equate bei... | Define "intelligence" for me.
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IQ is a portion of it.. But I think it is also your ability to consistently make connections in your brain and apply them in real life situations such as arguments, tests, etc. Also your ability to memorize and be creative, think of new ideas, be original, be innovative, etc.
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S... | j68q48 | CMV: Your intelligence is fixed and cannot be changed. | I've believed this ever since I was young. I believe that you're either smart or youre not. And you cannot do anything to change that. It doesn't change what you can potentially do, its just something thats fixed. I really want my mind changed on this but I just keep sticking to my original view. It's whats natural to ... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Pulling out of Afghanistan was the right decision and the Taliban takeover doesn't change that.
I am 100% convinced that Biden made the correct decision. This is a war that has been going on for 20 years, and for what? Billions of dollars and thousands of lives wasted. I'm so tired of hearing the same old excuses... | [deleted]
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But what could've been done differently? I'm not buying that if we just waited for a few more months, the Afghan army would somehow become strong enough to hold back the Taliban. The bottom line is the Afghan army and leadership were an absolute mess. They never stood a chance. Are you saying the US sh... | >Trump campaigned on and never followed through with.
It was Trump who got the troops out, they were supposed to leave in May and Biden delayed it.
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May, August it didn't matter. The power vacuum existed regardless of when the U.S. "pulled out."
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He said that Trump campained for it and never followed through... | p5xihg | CMV: Pulling out of Afghanistan was the right decision and the Taliban takeover doesn't change that. | I am 100% convinced that Biden made the correct decision. This is a war that has been going on for 20 years, and for what? Billions of dollars and thousands of lives wasted. I'm so tired of hearing the same old excuses about why we (the U.S.) needed to stay. Yes, of course, entering the war was a mistake and it would'v... | ronhamp225 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It seems that there is no reason to help or feel any positive emotions to those of different political ideologies which harm me
Let's go through some examples:
If I am pro-choice, then people who are pro-life vote for and support politicians which enact policies that hurt the ability to get abortions, meaning th... | ….so you don’t mind people who don’t vote?
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No, because inaction is also a form of action.
It means that they support the current state of affairs.
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Every time you change an opposing voter's mind so that they vote for your party, you're taking one vote away from your opposition and adding one to yours. For ... | [removed]
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Cool, but that doesn't change my viewpoint, does it?
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No. I would say it makes it irrelevant though. | vl36go | CMV: It seems that there is no reason to help or feel any positive emotions to those of different political ideologies which harm me | Let's go through some examples:
If I am pro-choice, then people who are pro-life vote for and support politicians which enact policies that hurt the ability to get abortions, meaning that I suffer as a result. Also, if I am pro-life, I believe that babies are being killed by abortion, so people who are pro-choice vote... | AndlenaRaines | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There's someone behind disinformation movements like anti-vax.
Currently on the internet exist huge communities of people that actively partake in damaging conspiracy theories like anti-vax, 5G, covid19 disbelievers, etc. In my opinion, it all in should be traceable to a single source, or an amplifier.
Im coming... | There is a quote that says something like “never attributed malice where ignorance could be the cause” or something like that and I think this would be a perfect example of that. It was proven that information spreads rapidly over the internet and the spread being concentrated in some places is probably due to people s... | I disagree. Without hearing opposing viewpoints, we cannot strengthen our own opinions.
If there were no anti-vax parents, would others really be able to understand how important vaccines are? I've noticed on the news and social media that people dont really talk about the things that we all agree on. I think there n... | g7zbw3 | CMV: There's someone behind disinformation movements like anti-vax. | Currently on the internet exist huge communities of people that actively partake in damaging conspiracy theories like anti-vax, 5G, covid19 disbelievers, etc. In my opinion, it all in should be traceable to a single source, or an amplifier.
Im coming from the viewpoint that there is a surge in numbers of anti-vax moms... | Dazzgle | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: «Cancel culture» is a natural result of free market capitalism
I see, especially in the American culture-debate, that it is mostly the political right that takes much of a stance against cancel culture. This sentiment is being brought over to europe (where I am based) as well in the past few years, were the terms... | Well i don’t even think people would call how you spend your money with companies cancel culture… that is nothing new. Cancel culture refers to “cancelling” individuals after some mistake they made comes to light
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This is in fact a very good and simple point. Canceling vs boycotting.
Could you then say that boyco... | Firstly, the right does indeed rail against "cancel culture". However, they aren't railing against free markets in doing so. I can simultaneously think markets should be free and also believe that people are shitty humans in some ways that are allowable/legal in the context of said free market.
You're taking oppos... | 165ho5r | CMV: «Cancel culture» is a natural result of free market capitalism | I see, especially in the American culture-debate, that it is mostly the political right that takes much of a stance against cancel culture. This sentiment is being brought over to europe (where I am based) as well in the past few years, were the terms ‘woke’ and ‘canceling’ is associated with the political left.
The w... | Asbergerr | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It is not racist to say someone is "half-[insert race here]".
[This story](https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/04/04/dungeons-dragons-to-remove-half-species-from-players-handbook-claims-entire-the-entire-idea-is-inherently-racist/) is making the rounds in the D&D community:
>“Frankly, we are not comfortable, an... | There isn't "half-" anything, in most cases. Because
1. That would assume some sort of 'pureblood' mentality. The majority of individuals have mixed genetic pools.
2. More importantly, race is a social construct. Yes, there are things like skin color, but the majority of racial attributes are more cultural than bio... | [deleted]
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I just think it’s a weird thing to get mad about. Nowadays saying someone is half one race half the other is rarely an insult. In fact it’s something many people wish they could be. Idk about you, but having a pass to fit into 2 different cultures sounds pretty awesome to me.
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> a pass to fit into ... | 12cy0gy | CMV: It is not racist to say someone is "half-[insert race here]". | [This story](https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/04/04/dungeons-dragons-to-remove-half-species-from-players-handbook-claims-entire-the-entire-idea-is-inherently-racist/) is making the rounds in the D&D community:
>“Frankly, we are not comfortable, and haven’t been for years with any of the options that start with ‘ha... | Disastronaut999 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Rape and pedophillia should be crimes subject to capital punishment
Rape, especially against children, is a barbaric and abhorrent crime. It can damage the developing brain, reduce victim lifespan, and leave the victim vulnerable to a whole host of psychiatric and physical health problems.
Rapists often seem to... | I can't remember any specific cases but I have read that there have been cases with DNA evidence that still turned out to be false convictions.
There is also the issue of someone regretting sex and then accusing the person they had sex with of rape. In this case there is evidence since they had sex, but there was no r... | Look, I say believe the victim too, but surely you see a possible course if actions that a malicious person could use to get someone they don't like killed, right?
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Allow me to clarify. What I mean here is the cases in question should qualify for the death sentence if a judge or jury sees fit to use it.
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And ... | g7zpeh | CMV: Rape and pedophillia should be crimes subject to capital punishment | Rape, especially against children, is a barbaric and abhorrent crime. It can damage the developing brain, reduce victim lifespan, and leave the victim vulnerable to a whole host of psychiatric and physical health problems.
Rapists often seem to get off due to the nature of most cases brought to court. Cases of “he sa... | StarShot77 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Most "inclusive" spaces online are one of the most bigoted and discriminatory places you can be.
So any sub or space online claims to be "inclusive" "tolerant" blah blah are one of the most prejudiced hate filled, bigoted spaces. The thing is if you say anything remotely different than what they want you to say t... | Can you give some concrete examples of the spaces you are referring to and the speech you can be banned for?
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i don't know if I am allowed to talk about specific sub reddits but here we go.
Those subs which are for disabilities they will only listen to one pov. I can not talk about wanting a treatment or cure for... | Do you have any actual examples to share?
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I got banned from many autistic subs for saying a treatment maybe be useless for us.
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Is that enough justification to say that "Most spaces online" are bigoted? Because of how you were treated from an incredibly small amount?
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This is the trend in all of these s... | 165gf8q | CMV: Most "inclusive" spaces online are one of the most bigoted and discriminatory places you can be. | So any sub or space online claims to be "inclusive" "tolerant" blah blah are one of the most prejudiced hate filled, bigoted spaces. The thing is if you say anything remotely different than what they want you to say they will ban you, remove your comments. But aren't these places supposed to be inclusive? I am still th... | alienalien24 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Princess Peach is a lesbian
I’ve been playing Super Mario games for ages and I feel like for over two decades, Mario has worked his ass off in pursuit of this blonde woman, constantly saving her from crazy situations she herself in. At the end of every game, it’s the same BS where she barely thanks him for his in... | The reason Peach is ambivalent towards Mario is that she is actually having an affair with Luigi. In fact, Rosalina is the daughter of Peach and Luigi.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-JcK_Bfe3sw
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Okay this is all very overwhelming. But how do we know Rosalina doesn’t actually have Mario’s DNA? And also, how can w... | Have you considered that maybe she just isn't into Mario? Why does saving her from crazy situations mean he's entitled to anything?
Also, you must have missed all the fan theories that she's deliberately getting captured because she has a thing for Bowser.
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Interesting. But don’t you feel that her body language a... | k5npr9 | CMV: Princess Peach is a lesbian | I’ve been playing Super Mario games for ages and I feel like for over two decades, Mario has worked his ass off in pursuit of this blonde woman, constantly saving her from crazy situations she herself in. At the end of every game, it’s the same BS where she barely thanks him for his insane amounts of work, let alone a ... | canadianick | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Fear of "the radical left" is a con that people are falling for, not a real thing
NOT that the radical left isn't anti-religion, pro socialist, or whatever it is that people are afraid of, but that the radical left is so large and in control that conservatives are in any danger from them.
People who are afraid o... | If I voice a perfectly reasonable, well thought out, researched, and politely written or spoken point AGAINST something like BLM riots, I could be fired from my job because the HR departments in by and large every major corporation are subject to radical leftists ideologues. If I posted that view to social media, I cou... | Thing is that "radical" anything is dangerous. Radical left is as dangerous as radical right. Radical atheist is terrible person to talk about religion. Problem is the extreme ends of anything and radicalism is where people shut down any voice that disagrees and demands that others must conform to their dogma or they a... | i0l59u | CMV: Fear of "the radical left" is a con that people are falling for, not a real thing | NOT that the radical left isn't anti-religion, pro socialist, or whatever it is that people are afraid of, but that the radical left is so large and in control that conservatives are in any danger from them.
People who are afraid of democratic socialism don't understand it or have swallowed a line that it's actual soc... | hoarduck | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: the offensiveness of slurs should be solely based on context
Me and my friends were discussing about how some celebrity said a slur within a another persons song at 16, she apologised at 18.
My friends stance was
“She should have known better at 16, she knew it was racist, she is racist for saying it and only ca... | I think an important factor is that the impact of a slur is somewhat independent of the intent. I recently moved to a different part of the US, and I would rarely here the r-word before moving but now it’s frequently used. I don’t believe those around me are trying to denigrate disabled people, but the word still creat... | 16 is a dumb age. Certainly not a point where one's character is set in stone.
A few pushbacks though:
>Which honestly I was baffled, and responded “yeah, I used the word in and of itself, not to describe anything?”
>my perspective seems to be super unpopular, I think the only thing that matters in life is intent. s... | p591nj | CMV: the offensiveness of slurs should be solely based on context | Me and my friends were discussing about how some celebrity said a slur within a another persons song at 16, she apologised at 18.
My friends stance was
“She should have known better at 16, she knew it was racist, she is racist for saying it and only cares know because she is getting cancelled”
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CMV: Pro-life doesn’t make sense to me, at all
I’m a Muslim, and I might sound biased (i really don’t know) and just to safe, I‘ll be speaking from an Islamic pov. Keep in mind that my views don’t represent every Muslim, I simply follow the mainstream Islamic view. Also, I ***don’t support either pro-life or pro-choic... | You are wrong that you have to be Christian to be pro-life, anyone who perceives a child in the womb as being human could very well be pro-life, unless they go as far as saying that they acknowledge the humanity of the unborn but murder is fine in that circumstance.
When do you believe that life begins? You have to an... | Atheist, European, pro-choice here. I don't really disagree with any of your post. Still, I don't think this whole debate is entirely - perhaps even mainly - about religion. One of the most interesting things I've read, many years ago, was in a sociology book. And it said that a fundamental, inescapable part of any rel... | vlq53q | CMV: Pro-life doesn’t make sense to me, at all | I’m a Muslim, and I might sound biased (i really don’t know) and just to safe, I‘ll be speaking from an Islamic pov. Keep in mind that my views don’t represent every Muslim, I simply follow the mainstream Islamic view. Also, I ***don’t support either pro-life or pro-choice completely***, but if I had to choose, pro-cho... | Prize-Warning2224 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Pro-life doesn’t make sense to me, at all
I’m a Muslim, and I might sound biased (i really don’t know) and just to safe, I‘ll be speaking from an Islamic pov. Keep in mind that my views don’t represent every Muslim, I simply follow the mainstream Islamic view. Also, I ***don’t support either pro-life or pro-choic... | You don’t see a fetus as a human. Pro life people see it as a human. To get an abortion is to kill a human. The mother doesn’t get what you call bodily autonomy because the child’s body is not the mothers body. They’re viewing it as killing a separate human being that just happens to be temporarily living in someone, w... | You are wrong that you have to be Christian to be pro-life, anyone who perceives a child in the womb as being human could very well be pro-life, unless they go as far as saying that they acknowledge the humanity of the unborn but murder is fine in that circumstance.
When do you believe that life begins? You have to an... | vlq53q | CMV: Pro-life doesn’t make sense to me, at all | I’m a Muslim, and I might sound biased (i really don’t know) and just to safe, I‘ll be speaking from an Islamic pov. Keep in mind that my views don’t represent every Muslim, I simply follow the mainstream Islamic view. Also, I ***don’t support either pro-life or pro-choice completely***, but if I had to choose, pro-cho... | Prize-Warning2224 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Pro-life doesn’t make sense to me, at all
I’m a Muslim, and I might sound biased (i really don’t know) and just to safe, I‘ll be speaking from an Islamic pov. Keep in mind that my views don’t represent every Muslim, I simply follow the mainstream Islamic view. Also, I ***don’t support either pro-life or pro-choic... | So a couple of things.
**Firstly:**
It's pretty-well impossible to separate your values based on which ones are religiously founded, and which you would hold secularly. Islam and Christianity both teach that murder is wrong, but obviously we don't reject anti-murder laws just because they're supported by the religiou... | You don’t have to be Christian to believe that it is wrong to kill a baby in the womb, no matter how far along the baby is. The view that most pro-life people have is that there are plenty of options on what to do with the baby, including somewhere you don’t need to raise it yourself, while only one of them involves t... | vlq53q | CMV: Pro-life doesn’t make sense to me, at all | I’m a Muslim, and I might sound biased (i really don’t know) and just to safe, I‘ll be speaking from an Islamic pov. Keep in mind that my views don’t represent every Muslim, I simply follow the mainstream Islamic view. Also, I ***don’t support either pro-life or pro-choice completely***, but if I had to choose, pro-cho... | Prize-Warning2224 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: With a few very specific exceptions, it is never okay to talk during a movie at the theater.
I wouldn't think this would be controversial, and yet, a majority of the movies I go to are interrupted by someone talking so there must be a bunch of dissenters out there. It is less surprising during a blockbuster in a ... | What about when the movie is terrible and everyone is into it? I have had some fun mutual riffing experiences in a theater before
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Delta awarded because this could be another exception, like lots of people are into it, whole tone of the room has shifted, people laughing etc. In that case, I think that the min... | > Murmuring and whispering counts as talking (if I can tell you are whispering you are whispering too loud).
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CMV: the Iran nuclear deal was a bad idea
I'm not an expert on this but just reading about this cursorily, I don't understand the logic of how that deal makes sense in the long term.
According to the terms of the deal, Iran froze its ability to make a nuclear weapon and will continue to do so for 10 years. In the me... | It was a bad deal, but for Iran, not for the US.
Iran has never had a nuclear weapons program. The nuclear technology they do have, we gave it to them under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
And this nuclear deal is an incredible double-standard compared to what we allow UN inspectors to do. Our ally Israel does ... | > However, there were no restrictions placed on its ability to develop its ballistic weapon technology, or sponsoring terror groups to attack its neighbors like it has always done.
Why would the deal contain these things? The deal was solely about nuclear weapons.
> This seems like a great deal for Iran and a terrib... | elvspd | CMV: the Iran nuclear deal was a bad idea | I'm not an expert on this but just reading about this cursorily, I don't understand the logic of how that deal makes sense in the long term.
According to the terms of the deal, Iran froze its ability to make a nuclear weapon and will continue to do so for 10 years. In the mean time, it was given a lot of money and op... | peekabookpenguin | 2 | 2 | [
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cmv: the oldest use of aborigine can literally be transcribed to english to mean "from rising birth".
ab- meaning from. oriri meaning arise and gene meaning birth. i assert this in spite of the traditional understanding that aborigine comes from "ab-" and origin where "origin" is a derivative of "oriri" alone.
the st... | -go appears to be used as a suffix for a few verbs in Latin. For example vertere -> vertigo.
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i appreciate this point, if the word were origo or something sufficiently similar i would say it has overwhelming merit. being that the word doesn't end in "go" but gine/genei and rounded vowels almost never morph to ung... | I don’t think this is the best place to ask this. Maybe go ask an actual etymologist
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i have done this also.
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the study of the morphology of the pronunciation of words supports ideas like plosives being interchanged (g,... | IronSmithFE | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV - The term “rape survivor” as opposed to “rape victim” is diminishing
Forgot to include CMV in the title and got removed, reposting with a few edits for clarity.
I want to be clear in my intent:
I don’t believe it is misguided, insulting or problematic for someone choosing to identify themselves as a survivor ra... | I think you have a really good point but I think your hardline stance on this is a false dichotomy that isn't fair to people who are actually survivors. If your view was "Only using the term survivor to describe people who were raped is a poor use of the word survivor," then I probably would agree with you entirely.
I... | [removed]
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> Honestly I've just heard the term survivor and victim used so interchangeably that I've never stopped to think about it before. So you've changed my view!
I love that, thanks. I do think most people who use the term survivor mean well, and I would have considered them to be interchangeable too. My ob... | 7figkd | CMV - The term “rape survivor” as opposed to “rape victim” is diminishing | Forgot to include CMV in the title and got removed, reposting with a few edits for clarity.
I want to be clear in my intent:
I don’t believe it is misguided, insulting or problematic for someone choosing to identify themselves as a survivor rather than as a victim. I can intellectually understand the psychological be... | contexistential | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Its ok to not want to date a transexual, but not ok if its a transgender
I think that not wanting to date a transgender is transphobic and not aceptable, but not waiting to date a transsexual is also transphobic but it is aceptable
Disclaimer:
Now, I know that this is full of americans and from what I understand... | Who is saying otherwise? People can have whatever preferences they want, and why would anyone want to date someone who doesn't like them? There are all kinds of criteria including not liking how someone chews their food that would disqualify someone from being an appropriate dating partner.
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I had a debate some da... | I don’t find men attractive. I also don’t find penises attractive. So am I transphobic for not dating transgender men, or transphobic for not dating transgender women?
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I reckon it can be both at the same time
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So in your opinion I need to be attracted to men in order to not be transphobic. You are essentiall... | wx7ys9 | CMV: Its ok to not want to date a transexual, but not ok if its a transgender | I think that not wanting to date a transgender is transphobic and not aceptable, but not waiting to date a transsexual is also transphobic but it is aceptable
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CMV: America is not a nation of immigrants and never was
I've thought about this and could only come to two logical ends people may come to when they say this.
1) America is a nation of immigrants due to people immigrating here during the 1400's.. To believe we were a nation of immigrants at the beginning we would ha... | In 1890-- long after the US became a country-- the total population was[ 63 million](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_United_States). And, of that number, [9+ million](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_immigration_statistics) were immigrants. When 15% of a country is comprised of immig... | America is considered a nation of immigrants because a) the country was founded by the descendants of European settlers, rather than the peoples that were already here, and b) influxes of immigrants continued well after the founding of USA as a nation.
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"A... | 91w9eb | CMV: America is not a nation of immigrants and never was | I've thought about this and could only come to two logical ends people may come to when they say this.
1) America is a nation of immigrants due to people immigrating here during the 1400's.. To believe we were a nation of immigrants at the beginning we would have to have been mostly immigrants. America didn't become a... | Artthought | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It Is Somewhat Normal For Somebody To be Sexually Attracted to Somebody Under 18 or even 15(PLEASE READ DESCRIPTION BEFORE POSTING)
To get this out of the way:
"I am in no way what so ever endoursing sex with children. It is wrong for many reasons 1) they do not understand how to make conscious decisions about su... | What view do you want changed? It’s hard to tell exactly how old some people are, and I’ve been guilty of thinking a 15 year old girl was extremely attractive and hit on them before knowing she was underage. It’s not immoral to be attracted, but acting on it is.
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Sorry, in a sentemce my view is that "it's normal ... | Are you saying that a 15 year old it younger is evolutionarily more fit because it's better able to give birth to offspring?
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Not entirely but for the most part yes.
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So your view will be changed by me showing 15 year old mother's have increased complication rates?
>Pregnant girls aged 15 to 19 are twice as ... | 8dzvj7 | CMV: It Is Somewhat Normal For Somebody To be Sexually Attracted to Somebody Under 18 or even 15(PLEASE READ DESCRIPTION BEFORE POSTING) | To get this out of the way:
"I am in no way what so ever endoursing sex with children. It is wrong for many reasons 1) they do not understand how to make conscious decisions about such topics 2) they can and 99.999999% of the tims will be hurt and mortified by such acts 3) they are not able to understand the emotions i... | AVisualExplanation | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Democrats are just as responsible as anyone for the Trump presidency and a possible 2020 re-election.
As a conservative, I don’t actually like Trump. He’s not really a conservative, he’s dumb, emotional, petty, and he’s a complete pig. However some of his politics do line up with mine and I’m not going to apol... | You make fair points with respect to good form and sound strategy in terms of political debate but your basic position is absurd.
The party most responsible for the Trump phenomenon is the one that nominated him. All your points about the Democrats being to blame for his presidency could be just as easily levied at t... | How do conservatives pretend to hold both the “Use our tax money here for our people!” space and the “Any social program is socialism” space.
The mental gymnastics must be exhausting.
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Because they don't believe these social programs are good programs. Contrary to popular belief, the conservative position is not... | g7vuxd | CMV: Democrats are just as responsible as anyone for the Trump presidency and a possible 2020 re-election. | As a conservative, I don’t actually like Trump. He’s not really a conservative, he’s dumb, emotional, petty, and he’s a complete pig. However some of his politics do line up with mine and I’m not going to apologize for that. The idea that when it comes to trade and foreign policy, the government that is funded solel... | aljo1067 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: “Arguing/debating doesn’t work,” isn’t a sufficiently supported claim.
I hear this said quite a bit, but the information in totality does not bear this out. People point out things like the backfire effect, ignoring that these studies involved percentages, which means that giving facts did work on some people. Th... | Could you please give more detail on who is saying "arguing/debating doesn't work", and in which context? I'm not sure what exactly you are arguing against.
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Yes, sure, lots of people have said it, but in terms of most recent, I was speaking with someone in the r/professor subreddit who said something similar to t... | There are 2 different types of debate. One where the goal is to convince the other party of your idea, and the other to convince an audience of your idea.
Many people only see political debates and think the 2nd is what all debates are like. They don't convince the people they argue with because they are not even tryi... | yal8l0 | CMV: “Arguing/debating doesn’t work,” isn’t a sufficiently supported claim. | I hear this said quite a bit, but the information in totality does not bear this out. People point out things like the backfire effect, ignoring that these studies involved percentages, which means that giving facts did work on some people. They also ignore that the backfire effect has been studied numerous times with ... | AnHonestApe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Better financial education is needed in moderate-income communities
In my experiences lately, I’ve met numerous workers who earn probably $12 an hour, in a state where minimum wage is $7.25 per hour.
All of them drive Lexuses, Mercedes, new GMC Suburbans and the like, and all of them rent their homes.
Public ... | No they don't. No lender is financing a Mercedes or a Lexus on $12/hr. Get serious please.
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My experience is that car dealers don’t even look at income if you have a good credit score. I’ve certainly never been asked to verify mine for any of my purchases. | You may be confusing financial literacy with poor judgment. You can be an actuary and still make poor financial decisions for yourself.
These workers may know the basics of budgeting, saving, and investing but just suck at the executive function required to stick to those.
If anyone needs better financial education i... | vlgill | CMV: Better financial education is needed in moderate-income communities | In my experiences lately, I’ve met numerous workers who earn probably $12 an hour, in a state where minimum wage is $7.25 per hour.
All of them drive Lexuses, Mercedes, new GMC Suburbans and the like, and all of them rent their homes.
Public transportation is subpar, so a car is needed. But a Lexus, Mercedes or ne... | FriendswithPoodles | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The view that free trade is ideal is a harmful view to hold for humanity.
Edit: Confused free trade with laissez faire
I think its a really defeatist and short-sighted view to have - to think that we cannot do anything of value to the economy, when human history suggests that we are able to innovate on anything.... | > We should promote research on government controls and provide incremental changes once the literature reaches a sufficient consensus.
I believe this is where you are incorrect.
This research already exists in economics, and there are countless studies on optimizing a country's welfare by restricting trade.
The *r... | If you have a massive modern economy, like the US, and you're trying to sell milk powder to an impoverished Caribbean island like Jamaica - then 'free trade' is like saying Mike Tyson versus a child is fair because they're fighting on a level playing field. Jamaica cannot reasonably compete with the US heartland. Reall... | 922zvb | CMV: The view that free trade is ideal is a harmful view to hold for humanity. | Edit: Confused free trade with laissez faire
I think its a really defeatist and short-sighted view to have - to think that we cannot do anything of value to the economy, when human history suggests that we are able to innovate on anything. Yet promotion of this idea stifles any research or innovation. Are we satisfied... | DoubleDual63 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Not immediately wanting to date someone who is trans, fat or a certain race isn't discriminatory, it's a preference.
I've heard this comment a lot and hear a lot of backlash against it. Common opponents to this statement say things along the lines of: a) it's an "internalized bias", b) you "can't rule out an enti... | [removed]
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I meant that that's being pretty discriminatory. If someone identifies with the gender that you are attracted to, has the features and personality that you are attracted to, and has the genitalia that you are attracted to, but you reject them anyway for being trans, that's discriminatory. In any case, I... | > **I'm willing to say that if someone has your preferred features and genitalia, but tells you that they are trans and you reject them right after, you are an asshole.**
Why?
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Awarded a Δ earlier, I guess it's not an asshole move-- it's still a preference.
---
Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/erikepaios ([2∆](... | k5lrl7 | CMV: Not immediately wanting to date someone who is trans, fat or a certain race isn't discriminatory, it's a preference. | I've heard this comment a lot and hear a lot of backlash against it. Common opponents to this statement say things along the lines of: a) it's an "internalized bias", b) you "can't rule out an entire group" and c) "how would you feel if someone did that to you?". I disagree with many of these statements but am open to ... | plainbread11 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Consoles are better for gaming than PCs are.
Consoles are superior to PCs for gaming for a number of reasons.
- Exclusives. Consoles have more and better games than PCs. Sure, PCs have some games but they're all indies and they're all identical. MMOs and RTSes. We have triple A games and more variety. You can t... | Strategy games and sports sims suck on consoles. There's nothing comparable to Civilization or Out of the Park on console.
You can hook up a PC to your TV just as easily as a console.
Many games are much more playable with a mouse and keyboard.
---
Name one game aside from MOBAs and RTSs. The controller is much m... | Both computers and consoles can use the same tvs. I have my pc hooked into a 32 inch monitor on my desk and a 65 inch on the wall and it'll run them both at the same time. A few more frames? Try double or triple. I'm running 144hz on my 32 and 120 on my 65. My resolution is higher. No framerate drops. There are way m... | 921zz1 | CMV: Consoles are better for gaming than PCs are. | Consoles are superior to PCs for gaming for a number of reasons.
- Exclusives. Consoles have more and better games than PCs. Sure, PCs have some games but they're all indies and they're all identical. MMOs and RTSes. We have triple A games and more variety. You can take identical games like LOL and DOTA, I'll be play... | cmvalt1325 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Consoles are better for gaming than PCs are.
Consoles are superior to PCs for gaming for a number of reasons.
- Exclusives. Consoles have more and better games than PCs. Sure, PCs have some games but they're all indies and they're all identical. MMOs and RTSes. We have triple A games and more variety. You can t... | > Consoles have more
Consoles have nowhere near more exclusives than PC.
> PCs have some games but they're all indies and they're all identical. MMOs and RTSes.
And a lot of people enjoy that, you're also underselling it massively. There is plenty of variety in the PC Exclusive area.
> You can take identical games... | Strategy games and sports sims suck on consoles. There's nothing comparable to Civilization or Out of the Park on console.
You can hook up a PC to your TV just as easily as a console.
Many games are much more playable with a mouse and keyboard.
---
Name one game aside from MOBAs and RTSs. The controller is much m... | 921zz1 | CMV: Consoles are better for gaming than PCs are. | Consoles are superior to PCs for gaming for a number of reasons.
- Exclusives. Consoles have more and better games than PCs. Sure, PCs have some games but they're all indies and they're all identical. MMOs and RTSes. We have triple A games and more variety. You can take identical games like LOL and DOTA, I'll be play... | cmvalt1325 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you can be a bad person without any reprecussions or harm to your reputation you better be a bad person
Say you have an opportunity to do something morally wrong(in most cases it's doing harm to other people) without any reprecussions whatsoever or damage to your reputation. Like in a movie Spoorloos, where a ... | And what would you gain from that? Must people don't feel good when hurting others. Also, why would you "better be" a bad person? Being a bad person is always bad for you in the long run.
---
Because if there is no repurecussions from other people(only possibility of guilt) then why you wouldn't want to expierence wh... | Firstly, it's hard to be certain that there are no ramifications. You might think you've gotten away with it but you might have left a shred of evidence tying you to the crime.
What about the knowledge of the crime that you have to live with? Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind.
Most importantly though, the idea ... | 7feftb | CMV: If you can be a bad person without any reprecussions or harm to your reputation you better be a bad person | Say you have an opportunity to do something morally wrong(in most cases it's doing harm to other people) without any reprecussions whatsoever or damage to your reputation. Like in a movie Spoorloos, where a guy buried alive a married couple and was smart enough to hide it, so no person will ever know about it and he wa... | tittynitty | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Saving a life ought to be more important than an individual's rights
I'm doing this for one of my papers and I truly can not fathom why anyone would chose rights over saving a human being's life. Anyone who chooses rights is ego centric in views as I believe in helping a greater good. In an example imposed by NHP... | I think you're casting an awfully broad net here. All rights, ever? Any life, always?
Here's a hypothetical. Bob and Bill are twin brothers. They fell out one Spring Break when they were in college: Bob got a serious drug habit, ran out of money, so stole all Bill's stuff and sold it.
Bill never spoke to him again,... | Do you believe that you should be compelled to donate blood, plasma and bone marrow in the event that someone will die without it?
---
Well personally I don't see any problem with it? Unless someone has a condition where they *can't* donate it, then they should donate to help people out. We saw what happened at the V... | 8dyopb | CMV: Saving a life ought to be more important than an individual's rights | I'm doing this for one of my papers and I truly can not fathom why anyone would chose rights over saving a human being's life. Anyone who chooses rights is ego centric in views as I believe in helping a greater good. In an example imposed by NHPR, it would be similar to someone complaining about paying taxes that goes ... | KanyeWest_KanyeBest | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Being a "good" or "honourable" person gets you nowhere in life and you are therefore better off being selfish and only caring about your own interests.
I've always tried to be a good and honourable person. By that I mean I try not to lie, I don't use people for my own benefit, and I try generally not to spread ne... | I’d be curious to see what the empirical evidence on the relationship between adherence to moral principles and outcomes says because otherwise I guess all I can claim about how people end up is conjecture.
It may be important for you to appreciate how we could measure success differently. If your goal is to accumulat... | [removed]
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I don't feel like I'm forcing myself to be a good person. I simply try to consciously put effort into being a good person. I think it's unrealistic to assert that you're not a good person unless you don't put effort to be one.
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I think you don’t have enough empathy to embrace other POV.
Being a g... | i0ib44 | CMV: Being a "good" or "honourable" person gets you nowhere in life and you are therefore better off being selfish and only caring about your own interests. | I've always tried to be a good and honourable person. By that I mean I try not to lie, I don't use people for my own benefit, and I try generally not to spread negativity or hurt people's feelings or identity. I've come to learn that while this may be good for my "karma" if such a thing exists. I don't think this way o... | _Weather_ | 3 | 3 | [
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