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CMV: All the panic over psychiatrists overprescribing medication is unfounded and overblown.
These people are experts for gods sake, they went to school for years to do what they do, and you don't know better. Medications for mental health issues and conditions like ADHD have improved the lives of hundreds of millions... | "All the panic over **doctors** overprescribing **pain** medication is unfounded and overblown.
These people are experts for gods sake, they went to school for years to do what they do, and you don't know better. Medications for **physical** health issues and conditions like **chronic pain** have improved the lives of... | About [6% of teens](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/12/health/children-mental-health-treatment/index.html) were on psychiatric medication 10 years ago .
Currently about [12.9 percent](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psychiatry-through-the-looking-glass/202108/are-children-and-adolescents-overprescribed) of 12- ... | 164z9ll | CMV: All the panic over psychiatrists overprescribing medication is unfounded and overblown. | These people are experts for gods sake, they went to school for years to do what they do, and you don't know better. Medications for mental health issues and conditions like ADHD have improved the lives of hundreds of millions of people. It's science, the medication has been proven to help. And if a doctor says said me... | Equivalent-Fix-7313 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Misinformation is really "unbiased" information
I am not talking about false information that is logically fallacious. I am saying information that only supports your view is biased. Information that may go against your views is unbiased.
People need all the information so they can make their own decisions what ... | Misinformation can be either information that is incorrect or information that is correct, but used to intentionally mislead people.
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But no one is "intentionally" trying to mislead if they "actually" believe their views are correct and the other side is wrong.
Intentionally suggests that the know that they are w... | >I am not talking about false information that is logically fallacious
This is the definition of misinformation. You should use a different word if you're going to say the word means something it doesn't.
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That should be the definition but people are using it to mean that what you said is not what science says bu... | vjrq9s | CMV: Misinformation is really "unbiased" information | I am not talking about false information that is logically fallacious. I am saying information that only supports your view is biased. Information that may go against your views is unbiased.
People need all the information so they can make their own decisions what to believe. That's allowing full disclosure.
Like sta... | MissLesGirl | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: As an Australian, I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA. In fact, I see no realistic way to tackle the USA's gun violence problem.
This post is inspired by the news of yet another mass shooting - namely the [2023 Covenant School shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Covenant_Schoo... | If an effective gun control law actualy passes, the initial spike in gun ownership won't matter because ultimately the number of guns will go down in the long run.
There is no reason to consider that spike to mean it's impossible, it barley matters in the larger scheme of things.
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>If an effective gun control la... | To clarify, when you say "I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA" are you saying that such an initiative would never pass, or that it wouldn't be effective even if it hypothetically did?
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>To clarify, when you say "I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA" are you sa... | 12cij50 | CMV: As an Australian, I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA. In fact, I see no realistic way to tackle the USA's gun violence problem. | This post is inspired by the news of yet another mass shooting - namely the [2023 Covenant School shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Covenant_School_shooting).
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CMV: As an Australian, I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA. In fact, I see no realistic way to tackle the USA's gun violence problem.
This post is inspired by the news of yet another mass shooting - namely the [2023 Covenant School shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Covenant_Schoo... | If an effective gun control law actualy passes, the initial spike in gun ownership won't matter because ultimately the number of guns will go down in the long run.
There is no reason to consider that spike to mean it's impossible, it barley matters in the larger scheme of things.
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>If an effective gun control la... | To clarify, when you say "I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA" are you saying that such an initiative would never pass, or that it wouldn't be effective even if it hypothetically did?
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>To clarify, when you say "I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA" are you sa... | 12cij50 | CMV: As an Australian, I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA. In fact, I see no realistic way to tackle the USA's gun violence problem. | This post is inspired by the news of yet another mass shooting - namely the [2023 Covenant School shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Covenant_School_shooting).
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CMV: As an Australian, I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA. In fact, I see no realistic way to tackle the USA's gun violence problem.
This post is inspired by the news of yet another mass shooting - namely the [2023 Covenant School shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Covenant_Schoo... | If an effective gun control law actualy passes, the initial spike in gun ownership won't matter because ultimately the number of guns will go down in the long run.
There is no reason to consider that spike to mean it's impossible, it barley matters in the larger scheme of things.
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>If an effective gun control la... | To clarify, when you say "I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA" are you saying that such an initiative would never pass, or that it wouldn't be effective even if it hypothetically did?
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>To clarify, when you say "I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA" are you sa... | 12cij50 | CMV: As an Australian, I don't think our response to gun violence will work in the USA. In fact, I see no realistic way to tackle the USA's gun violence problem. | This post is inspired by the news of yet another mass shooting - namely the [2023 Covenant School shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Covenant_School_shooting).
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CMV: You Can't Be Too Obnoxious When Confronting A Bully
My view is that you can't be too obnoxious, loud or self defensive enough when confronting any bully anywhere and that it is everyone's problem within earshot and there is no amount of shouting, screaming or yelling that could ever turn me against the victim.
T... | I think you may have become a bully, ironically.
Also you're not credible enough to call anyone a coward for anything when your idea of standing up for yourself is screaming and making a scene in hopes of the angry mob you've created protecting you..
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So what you're saying is that i should work on my acting skil... | Well I think the first major flaw in this thinking is bullying is not so black and white. You are acting like bullying is a definite thing, but it is subjective. In a situation where you cause a big scene at a bullies expense, there is no gurantee they are truly a bully, or that people at least agree the person is a bu... | thh517 | CMV: You Can't Be Too Obnoxious When Confronting A Bully | My view is that you can't be too obnoxious, loud or self defensive enough when confronting any bully anywhere and that it is everyone's problem within earshot and there is no amount of shouting, screaming or yelling that could ever turn me against the victim.
The reason I want this view changed is because nearly every... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Western world is largely and overtly supporting Ukraine because they are a white, Christian country opposing a common antagonist in Russia.
As opposed to non-white, (majority) non-Christian countries recently undergoing humanitarian crises, such as Syria and Palestine, who are routinely painted in a completel... | Ukraine is one of the worlds largest food exporters. Most of current inflation hitting western world in form of food cost is direct consequence of this war.
Syria exports and role in world economy is insignificant at best. Western countries has no financial incentive to support them.
This has nothing to do with race ... | While I agree that the West does have ulterior motives and bias in this conflict, It is not because Ukraine is white and Christian.
It is because supporting Ukraine will allow the West a stronger foothold in the region, whilst weakening Russia, a country with a large influence therein. This has a bigger economic impac... | 12cet2o | CMV: The Western world is largely and overtly supporting Ukraine because they are a white, Christian country opposing a common antagonist in Russia. | As opposed to non-white, (majority) non-Christian countries recently undergoing humanitarian crises, such as Syria and Palestine, who are routinely painted in a completely different light than Ukraine. Why don't we see systematic collection of charity money for these countries, while the support for Ukraine is massive ... | Noobivore36 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If I kill a cockroach, I don’t have to mention it to my roommate
My roommate and I keep a clean place but we live in a large apartment building with not-as-clean neighbors. Sometimes, cockroaches get into our unit.
My roommate *hates* bugs. She freaks out if she sees one. She will spend $50 on bug spray, bait tr... | [removed]
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Yeah, I feel bad because I think I’m being selfish and superior.
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You're being compassionate. They would be upset. You don't want them to be upset. You're sparing them needless discomfort.
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Being compassionate in this context is not a virtue.
The same reason that being a helicopter parent i... | Where one cockroach exists, others exist. If you see them once or twice a month, you have a cockroach problem. Most especially in apartment buildings.
I would say you should speak with them about it and also speak to your landlord about the issue.
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We do get the unit sprayed every month. Was never a problem our... | wx3kby | CMV: If I kill a cockroach, I don’t have to mention it to my roommate | My roommate and I keep a clean place but we live in a large apartment building with not-as-clean neighbors. Sometimes, cockroaches get into our unit.
My roommate *hates* bugs. She freaks out if she sees one. She will spend $50 on bug spray, bait traps, etc. without much hesitation. Spotting a cockroach makes her anxio... | No-Case-4093 | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: From an ethical perspective, vegetarianism is no different from eating meat, and those concerned with animal welfare should engage in veganism.
Disclaimer: I enjoy eating meat frequently.
To my understanding of vegetarianism, the focal point of abstaining from eating meat is in protest of or refusal to participa... | Vegetarians cause far far less harm to animals than meat eaters. Vegans cause less harm still. But, vegetarians still get 100% credit for the moral good they do by not being meat eaters.
The world would be a terrible place indeed if everyone always said 'I'm not completely rearrang emy life to make sure I do no harm a... | > From an ethical perspective
Your argument only addresses one particular ethical perspective. There are other which mage vegetarianism *sans* veganism fine, even recommended.
For example, some Hindus regard the cow as a sacred animal. They therefore do not eat beef. However the very reason they are considered sacre... | 7fdype | CMV: From an ethical perspective, vegetarianism is no different from eating meat, and those concerned with animal welfare should engage in veganism. | Disclaimer: I enjoy eating meat frequently.
To my understanding of vegetarianism, the focal point of abstaining from eating meat is in protest of or refusal to participate in the industry of animal processing. There is no doubt that the reality of animal management practices combined with corporate greed result in a s... | bigjuicyasshole | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Given context the left is hypocritical, and either disingenuous or ignorant for constantly and vigorously campaigning against guns
I was pro gun control until I did a bit of research and saw where guns stand when there's frame of reference. Now **I think labeling yourself as pro gun control is hypocritical/redund... | I don't think it's in any way hypocritical to campaign against guns and ignore cigarettes and alcohol, just in the way that it's not hypocritical to campaign against the death penalty and not campaign against guns. People are free to decide what issues are important to them.
What would be hypocritical would be to cam... | But we do have giant nation wide campaigns against cigarettes and alcohol abuse - hell drinking and driving is illegal even if you manage to hurt no one (as it should be).
There's already negative stigmata around these things - and various things being done to curb them.
A person - reasonably or not - may feel as muc... | 8dxp03 | CMV: Given context the left is hypocritical, and either disingenuous or ignorant for constantly and vigorously campaigning against guns | I was pro gun control until I did a bit of research and saw where guns stand when there's frame of reference. Now **I think labeling yourself as pro gun control is hypocritical/redundant/meaningless to be vocal about, when there are many other deadlier vices that we all are nearly silent about.**
Now when we look at t... | nowthatsucks | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Karen is no different then calling someone a Shaniqua, Tyrone, Maria, etc.
Since reddit has a massive hard-on for calling every basic white woman "Karen", I find it revealing that people have been using it without realizing what they are tacitly acknowledging that racism and sexism are okay since its for privileg... | What personality traits can you ascribe to those names other than "racial stereotypes"? Because a Karen isn't "basic white girl".
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"Basic white girl" kind of generalizes the stereotype a little, but Karen is really a term for an entitled middle age, middle class white women.
Like Shaniqua is a term for an entitl... | Why, in your opinion, do people call certain women Karen, how many people do this and what does it mean?
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> drives an SUV to carpool her kids to soccer practice... better hope the ref doesn’t make a wrong call because she will sue!
>love to use snapagram to post... | g7rwmj | CMV: Karen is no different then calling someone a Shaniqua, Tyrone, Maria, etc. | Since reddit has a massive hard-on for calling every basic white woman "Karen", I find it revealing that people have been using it without realizing what they are tacitly acknowledging that racism and sexism are okay since its for privileged white folk. Imagine browsing r/all and seeing titles like "A bunch of shaniqua... | Alf-Pog | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It is unethical to own a dog if it can't go outside.
First of all, I am a dog owner, but I have a large yard and my dog is an outside dog and she is free to wonder anywhere in the world she pleases.
I believe that if you own a dog, it is wrong for you to keep it inside all the time and that if you don't have th... | I echo others that it's entirely dependent on the breed or even individual dog. The dogs I grew up with (pekingese and maltese) were free to spend their time inside/outside as they pleased, and it pleased them to remain exclusively indoors with people. The only occasions they spent time outside (other than to poop/pee ... | >A dog would rather be outside in the open air wondering around than cooped up inside a house or apartment it's whole life.
Kids would rather eat ice cream than vegetables for every meal. Is it unethical to feed a kid vegetables? Would it be better to have them die than that?
An extreme analogy, I'll admit, but I don... | 6hgouq | CMV: It is unethical to own a dog if it can't go outside. | First of all, I am a dog owner, but I have a large yard and my dog is an outside dog and she is free to wonder anywhere in the world she pleases.
I believe that if you own a dog, it is wrong for you to keep it inside all the time and that if you don't have the means to let your dog spend time outside everyday, you sh... | Apokolyptyk | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV:I hate cars and i think that cars hurts society as a whole
I’m live in rio de janeiro and i’m upper middle class so i have a good situation financialy speaking,And its common with the people in my situation to want to drive as first as they could(Here is 18 to drive)I never understand why,even in my city that the ... | I live in Australia and at that i live 150km+ away from a sizeable town. There is one bus a day to that town amd thats it. The futher inland you go from here the less there is, maybe twice a week. There are no other means of transport. A car is essential here otherwise you are extremely restricted to what you can do.
... | Cars let us visit people who live far away. Brazil is a big country, and there are even bigger ones like the US/Canada and many in Europe. There are lots that are small enough for biking or public transport, but that isn't always the most efficient means of travel for most people.
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CMV:I hate cars and i think that cars hurts society as a whole
I’m live in rio de janeiro and i’m upper middle class so i have a good situation financialy speaking,And its common with the people in my situation to want to drive as first as they could(Here is 18 to drive)I never understand why,even in my city that the ... | The main thing i heard you say was "I enjoy being around people and walking neighborhoods and having real contact with the city so that means everyone else should have to do it too"
I'm happy for you if thats what you want, but what if thats not what I want? What if i like not having to deal with other people? Do you ... | Cars let us visit people who live far away. Brazil is a big country, and there are even bigger ones like the US/Canada and many in Europe. There are lots that are small enough for biking or public transport, but that isn't always the most efficient means of travel for most people.
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Has a lot of other ways of visit... | vkuu1f | CMV:I hate cars and i think that cars hurts society as a whole | I’m live in rio de janeiro and i’m upper middle class so i have a good situation financialy speaking,And its common with the people in my situation to want to drive as first as they could(Here is 18 to drive)I never understand why,even in my city that the public transportation is awful(Buses are always overcrowed and u... | Frequent_Jackfruit60 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There’s nothing wrong with income inequality.
Income inequality is simply a by-product of each and every single person’s work ethic. Billionaires like the Rockefellers and Trump worked hard to earn their money and provide their families with luxury. Meanwhile, my grandpa didn’t and because of that I am of lower-m... | [removed]
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Here’s something to consider. How did Trump accumulate his current net worth ? He invested it and worked hard for it.
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>Meanwhile, my grandpa didn’t and because of that I am of lower-middle class status.
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Income inequality is simply a by-product of each and every single person’s work ethic. Billionaires like the Rockefellers and Trump worked hard to earn their money and provide their families with luxury. Meanwhile, my grandpa didn’t and because of that I am of lower-m... | >Income inequality is simply a by-product of each and every single person’s work ethic.
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CMV: Netflix will soon start charging for sharing your account
It looks like Netflix will start charging extra if you share your account and password. It will start in Central and South America but I'm pretty sure it will eventually go worldwide unless it backfires, which personally, I hope it does.
From an accounti... | [deleted]
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We're in agreement but it's true.
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If anyone can give me a legitimate reason this is a good idea for the masses. I just don't see it. I believe there are way fewer true password sharing offenders than all the reasons I gave.
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Netflix is going to try to *monetize* password sharing, not cut it of... | thf29v | CMV: Netflix will soon start charging for sharing your account | It looks like Netflix will start charging extra if you share your account and password. It will start in Central and South America but I'm pretty sure it will eventually go worldwide unless it backfires, which personally, I hope it does.
From an accounting standpoint alone, I get it. They are trying to improve their ... | Hondunola | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The 2023 Denver Nuggets of the NBA would be well within their rights to call themselves the 2023 "World Champions"
Recently, there has been some controversy in the sports world around comments by US track and field sprinter Noah Lyles in which he said:
>"You know the thing that hurts me the most is that I have t... | Your arguments have huge flaws in them. You are correct in saying the NBA is the best league in the world. Does it matter where a team plays? No. If the NBA changed its name to the world league that would make no sense because it's an American league and it's not about the players but the location of the teams. If I wa... | > Does where a team play its home games really matter? Or isn't it more important to consider where the talent pool for the team/league comes from (only in the U.S. vs. all around the world).
This is the question. Who wins the championship/trophy/banners? The team (Denver, USA or individual billionaire) or do 15 playe... | 164pkgj | CMV: The 2023 Denver Nuggets of the NBA would be well within their rights to call themselves the 2023 "World Champions" | Recently, there has been some controversy in the sports world around comments by US track and field sprinter Noah Lyles in which he said:
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CMV: Political protestors should gather outside legislatures, not courts
In light of the recent Supreme Court decision in Dobbs v. Jackson, protestors have gathered outside of the Court as well as the homes of various judges. In my view, this is not an effective form of protest because courts are not designed to be po... | I think the supreme court is less insulated from politics than you might think.
Sure, justices can stay in office for so long as they want so long as they maintain "good behavior".
But, the constitution allows congress to define exceptions to supreme court appellate jurisdiction, and the supreme court relies on the e... | [Trump said when he was running](https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1540449577895174145) that he would look to appoint 2 or 3 judges, and those judges would repeal Roe v. Wade, because he would choose pro-life judges.
Trump then appointed 3 judges, and those judges (along with Bush's judges) repealed Roe v. Wade,... | vl9agm | CMV: Political protestors should gather outside legislatures, not courts | In light of the recent Supreme Court decision in Dobbs v. Jackson, protestors have gathered outside of the Court as well as the homes of various judges. In my view, this is not an effective form of protest because courts are not designed to be political bodies which rule based on the popular opinions of the time. Inste... | BlackDahliaMuckduck | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: College Football has a huge parity problem. The only way to fix it is to end recruiting as we know it.
College Football has an enormous parity problem. Reality is, only 3-4 teams (out of 130!) have a realistic shot at winning the College Football Playoff every year. This is entirely due to recruiting. There is an... | What benefit do the players get out of this?
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None, in the exact scenario I explained above. But that wasn't the point of my post. But, to chase that rabbit tail further, this type of system would only work once CFB recognizes student-athletes for what they are - athletes first, and students second.
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It actua... | Who does your system benefit? It doesnt benefit the players or the schools or the NFL or the majority of college football fans.
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1. This type of system certainly creates the biggest change for players, no doubt. But, ... | k5fajy | CMV: College Football has a huge parity problem. The only way to fix it is to end recruiting as we know it. | College Football has an enormous parity problem. Reality is, only 3-4 teams (out of 130!) have a realistic shot at winning the College Football Playoff every year. This is entirely due to recruiting. There is an enormous statistical correlation between how well you recruit as a team to your on the field performance. Th... | DwightUte89 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Dental care should not be considered separate from regular health care
Basically the title. Dental care requires checkups similar to regular doctor appointments, and poor oral hygiene is just like any other physical hygiene that can lead to health problems, specifically heart disease.
Obviously, dentists are sp... | So... here's the thing.
Dental care is unlike medical in that almost all of it is routine and expected, and *very* little of the cost of insuring for it is due to exceptional and unexpected events as a percentage of the cost.
So... all that dental insurance does, in practice, is pay for your routine stuff *after add... | The best idea is to have 'a la carte' for *everything* related to healthcare.
Having separate dental care is one small step toward the system where you have separate *all kinds* of care.
If I want to pay for very specific care types of insurance, that would be best for me and everyone in general.
If I brush my tee... | tgsfu1 | CMV: Dental care should not be considered separate from regular health care | Basically the title. Dental care requires checkups similar to regular doctor appointments, and poor oral hygiene is just like any other physical hygiene that can lead to health problems, specifically heart disease.
Obviously, dentists are specialists, but many specialists exist within standard health care, so I don't... | Oishiio42 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I should be a conservative
I've avoided talking about politics for most of my life because it seems like a waste of energy and an easy way to ruin friendships, but lately I've started feeling like it's pretty fun to talk about after all, if you approach it the right way.
Since I haven't been talking about politi... | Also a straight, white, male. More center-left politically.
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2. The right also has a vocal minority with crazy tendencies. Difference is, this faction of the right is ascenda... | [deleted]
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> More importantly, don't identify your party based on what other people might say or think about you.
Why not? I don't intend to "identify" myself in my own mind so that I think "I am a conservative, and therefore I think this". That's silly. Even if you think conservatives are silly and think like th... | 6gzz4h | CMV: I should be a conservative | I've avoided talking about politics for most of my life because it seems like a waste of energy and an easy way to ruin friendships, but lately I've started feeling like it's pretty fun to talk about after all, if you approach it the right way.
Since I haven't been talking about politics, I haven't had the need to fig... | aizu9 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I should be a conservative
I've avoided talking about politics for most of my life because it seems like a waste of energy and an easy way to ruin friendships, but lately I've started feeling like it's pretty fun to talk about after all, if you approach it the right way.
Since I haven't been talking about politi... | > It's hard not to see an obvious reality that people on the left just don't like "people like me".
Huh? I'm a straight, white, moderately wealthy male who came from a moderately wealthy family. I'm also very liberal, and considered by my very liberal friends to be a good advocate. Can you tell me why you think peopl... | >In terms of identity politics, I'm white, male, and straight, and I'm also relatively wealthy. I'm a first generation immigrant and grew up poor though. I have a few friends but not many, and I have no "connections" of any sort that would give me any kind of social advantage. Close to typical for the reddit crowd I im... | 6gzz4h | CMV: I should be a conservative | I've avoided talking about politics for most of my life because it seems like a waste of energy and an easy way to ruin friendships, but lately I've started feeling like it's pretty fun to talk about after all, if you approach it the right way.
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CMV: More subreddits should have the "do not discuss suicide" rule implemented
So far I've only seen it in r/morbidquestions subreddit It's currently Rule 5.
Now there must be a good reason for that rule to be there in even such a morbid sub (that you know what you're getting into when clicking that).. surely? Surel... | >.. so surely, this rule has some merit to it? Whatever the reason, it must be good.....
>....it's going to benefit people that might otherwise be triggered into making wrong or bad decisions....
Is there any evidence for this?
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emphatically NO. The research is very clear. | Many subreddits don't need such a specific rule because it's already implied by a more general rule. For example, on CMV this sort of discussion would usually be blocked by the Rule D prohibition against suggesting harm to a specific person.
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But having it as a specific rule instead makes it easier to reference an... | 12c264u | CMV: More subreddits should have the "do not discuss suicide" rule implemented | So far I've only seen it in r/morbidquestions subreddit It's currently Rule 5.
Now there must be a good reason for that rule to be there in even such a morbid sub (that you know what you're getting into when clicking that).. surely? Surely in such a "gross sub"... to see that unique rule enforced... you'd think it wo... | Your_client_sucks_95 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Donald Trump has made an unacceptable precedent for future world leaders to get things done.
The president of the US is ARGUABLY the most powerful person in the world. No doubt he or she has an immense amount of influence over how future leaders will act and execute diplomacy. I will be the first to say I wish Tr... | In my opinion it is a bit more covert than that: Trump is an incredibly effective attention/headline snatcher, while having questionable political prowess/ability. He's the symbol of the patsy, the figurehead, who essentially lets the more sinister do what they wish to by (a) distracting everyone all the time, and (b) ... | >It is not okay for the leader of the free world to threaten to leave NATO.
Why?
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Well, while we are a sovereign nation, that alliance is a staple of the free world. It protects the world from going into war. Some of the United States’s best friends are in that treaty organization, and threatening to leave them t... | 91yciu | CMV: Donald Trump has made an unacceptable precedent for future world leaders to get things done. | The president of the US is ARGUABLY the most powerful person in the world. No doubt he or she has an immense amount of influence over how future leaders will act and execute diplomacy. I will be the first to say I wish Trump was not our president. He has done many horrible things; however financially he has made some v... | BigManPatrol | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: It is impossible to fully believe trans people *and* claim that gender is a social construct, without logically contradicting yourself
When reading about the topic of gender and sex I discovered what I think is a contradiction in some people's worldview. I am therefore curious if this point holds up to criticism,... | The claim that gender is a social construct is not the same thing as the claim that "gender identity is entirely determined by socially constructed gender norms." While the latter is inconsistent with the existence of trans people, it isn't what people actually mean when they say gender is a social construct, so that i... | [deleted]
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Well that is exactly my point.
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CMV: If you're against abortion, you should automatically be in support of contraception.
I just want to preface this by saying that I, personally, do not have a definite pro-life or pro-choice stance. I have read arguments for both, and I think there are valid reasons for both having an abortion and not having one ev... | That's only implied if I accept your premise that recreational sex should not or cannot be avoided, which I don't, as it is certainly a thing that some people choose to do seemingly without disastrous consequences. This is central your argument and not something you can just casually dismiss as an unreasonable idea
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**People can logically be against both.** You can think abortions are evil AND think that people should only have sex to procreate. **Both are perfectly valid positions ... | elkcvh | CMV: If you're against abortion, you should automatically be in support of contraception. | I just want to preface this by saying that I, personally, do not have a definite pro-life or pro-choice stance. I have read arguments for both, and I think there are valid reasons for both having an abortion and not having one even when you didn't want to get pregnant, but I don't know and will not attempt to say which... | LatterEngineer | 3 | 3 | [
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I just want to preface this by saying that I, personally, do not have a definite pro-life or pro-choice stance. I have read arguments for both, and I think there are valid reasons for both having an abortion and not having one ev... | It seems to me that this is basically targeting the Catholic Church. I can't think of any other serious group that is both pro-life and against all forms of contraception.
In the context of a religion like the Catholic Church you have to take the whole thing together. Obviously, plenty of Catholics are hypocrites, b... | >but only presents the argument that if you are against abortion, then you should be in support of contraception, as it would be illogical otherwise.
**People can logically be against both.** You can think abortions are evil AND think that people should only have sex to procreate. **Both are perfectly valid positions ... | elkcvh | CMV: If you're against abortion, you should automatically be in support of contraception. | I just want to preface this by saying that I, personally, do not have a definite pro-life or pro-choice stance. I have read arguments for both, and I think there are valid reasons for both having an abortion and not having one even when you didn't want to get pregnant, but I don't know and will not attempt to say which... | LatterEngineer | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: The Pleasure Principle (pursue pleasure, avoid pain) is sufficient to explain human behavior.
The Pleasure Principle states that sentient beings, such as humans, actively pursue pleasure/happiness and work hard to avoid pain/suffering. This principle explains most, if not all, of human behavior. Some intellect... | It isn't sufficient to explain stories of self sacrifice, people giving up on dreams to support family members, soldiers jumping on grenades for their comrades etc.
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People often make decision "in the spur of the moment", i.e. on the emotions they feel at that given moment. Jumping on a grenade is not an intellect... | Here's a good contradictory behavior: a plate of M&Ms is next to me. If I have that plate stay near me while I'm sitting, I will eat them. If I push them three feet away, I will not eat them. I do not want to eat them, so I push them away.
You can't explain that with the pleasure principle. If I don't want to get ... | vl24qr | CMV: The Pleasure Principle (pursue pleasure, avoid pain) is sufficient to explain human behavior. | The Pleasure Principle states that sentient beings, such as humans, actively pursue pleasure/happiness and work hard to avoid pain/suffering. This principle explains most, if not all, of human behavior. Some intellectuals, e.g. Freud, dispute this.
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The Pleasure Principle states that sentient beings, such as humans, actively pursue pleasure/happiness and work hard to avoid pain/suffering. This principle explains most, if not all, of human behavior. Some intellect... | I think the problem is when you try to define behavior that involves sacrifice/serving others etc as reward seeking - then the question becomes “why do we find it emotionally rewarding to sacrifice for others” and the answer to this goes far beyond the pleasure principle
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It's a matter of perspective. Sacrifice is... | Here's a good contradictory behavior: a plate of M&Ms is next to me. If I have that plate stay near me while I'm sitting, I will eat them. If I push them three feet away, I will not eat them. I do not want to eat them, so I push them away.
You can't explain that with the pleasure principle. If I don't want to get ... | vl24qr | CMV: The Pleasure Principle (pursue pleasure, avoid pain) is sufficient to explain human behavior. | The Pleasure Principle states that sentient beings, such as humans, actively pursue pleasure/happiness and work hard to avoid pain/suffering. This principle explains most, if not all, of human behavior. Some intellectuals, e.g. Freud, dispute this.
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The Pleasure Principle states that sentient beings, such as humans, actively pursue pleasure/happiness and work hard to avoid pain/suffering. This principle explains most, if not all, of human behavior. Some intellect... | If you define pleasure as a sensation that people want and and pain as a sensation that people don't want, then yes, the principle holds true, by definition. But tautologies like that don't tell us anything new about the world.
How do you define "pain" and "pleasure"?
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Freud disputes this, he has actually written... | Here's a good contradictory behavior: a plate of M&Ms is next to me. If I have that plate stay near me while I'm sitting, I will eat them. If I push them three feet away, I will not eat them. I do not want to eat them, so I push them away.
You can't explain that with the pleasure principle. If I don't want to get ... | vl24qr | CMV: The Pleasure Principle (pursue pleasure, avoid pain) is sufficient to explain human behavior. | The Pleasure Principle states that sentient beings, such as humans, actively pursue pleasure/happiness and work hard to avoid pain/suffering. This principle explains most, if not all, of human behavior. Some intellectuals, e.g. Freud, dispute this.
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CMV: fixed speeding camera systems do not benefit the society
- Fixed speeding cameras do not save lives, they only push the acident a few hundred meters away. So if one were to speed, he usually goes slow while under the radar, and then speeds up (probably even more) and still causes an accident.
- Setting up fixed c... | From wikipedia:
>The 2010 Cochrane Review of speed cameras for the prevention of road traffic injuries and deaths[63] reported that all 28 studies accepted by the authors found the effect of speed cameras to be a reduction in all crashes, injury crashes, and death or severe injury crashes. "Twenty eight studies measure... | >, like "public shaming" boards, traffic lights, those giant ads next to the road, etc.
Do you have DATA that public shaming boards work as well speeding camera systems in particularly dangerous areas?
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Personal? Sure. I always use my brakes when entering the town with signs "You are driving" then in red or green... | 7f9vhn | CMV: fixed speeding camera systems do not benefit the society | - Fixed speeding cameras do not save lives, they only push the acident a few hundred meters away. So if one were to speed, he usually goes slow while under the radar, and then speeds up (probably even more) and still causes an accident.
- Setting up fixed cameras in extra dangerous places might help, but there are tons... | 83421177 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Atheism and Agnosticism are philosophically equivalent positions
I'm gonna use the following definitions:
Atheism - disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or divine beings
Agnosticism - the existence of God, divine beings, or the supernatural is unknowable
The Agnostic view is that there is no way... | Theism and Gnosticism refer to two separate things. Theism relates to belief, specifically that a god exists. Theists believe in a god and atheists do not. Gnosticism, however, relates to knowledge.
I am an agnostic atheist. I do not have a full-fledged belief in a god, but I do not claim to know for a fact that no go... | There are different definitions of each if we look at the words, but often they are overlapping, interchangeable, or incoherent.
Better to just simply note there is a distinction between [lacking a belief in X] and [believing in a lack of X].
"Agnostics" typically would refer to those who *lack a belief in* God. "At... | k5gicz | CMV: Atheism and Agnosticism are philosophically equivalent positions | I'm gonna use the following definitions:
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The Agnostic view is that there is no way to know whether or not supernatural claims are correct. Let's take the... | suaffle | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Michelle Carter should not have been found guilty for involuntary manslaughter for encouraging her boyfriend to kill himself in the texting suicide case
This is more a legal debate than a personal opinion - but this is my opinion upon hearing about this story and I am open to changing it upon hearing other people... | Would you have the same opinion if someone came up to you and said "I think I'm going to rob a bank" and you acted in the manner this lady did?
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I'm not sure, can you expand on that situation? Like if my boyfriend said he was going to rob a bank, can I be charged as an accomplice if I say "Do it"? I hope not. If I... | It's similar to that of talking someone into killing another person. If I knew you were not stable mentally and you had a bad relationship with your mother, for instance, and told you repeatedly that your life would be better without her in it if you killed her, wouldn't I be charged with being a part of this crime? Le... | 6hoqcc | CMV: Michelle Carter should not have been found guilty for involuntary manslaughter for encouraging her boyfriend to kill himself in the texting suicide case | This is more a legal debate than a personal opinion - but this is my opinion upon hearing about this story and I am open to changing it upon hearing other people's legal analysis about this. Obligatory: I am not a lawyer. But this verdict seems pretty outrageous to me.
So there was a teenage boy who was suicidal and ... | MerrieLee | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The CCP is, broadly, primarily a corrupt authoritarian dictatorship, and China would be better off as a liberal democracy,
**update:** Hey! I dont have time to respond to every comment but I've read all of them, this has been really interesting and informative! I appreciate the links and the personal stories, and... | I do agree there are a ton of problems caused by the CCP but I think a lot of them wouldn't automatically be solved by a shift to democracy.
We have seen that even democratic nations suffer from fairly extreme corruption, and with the enormous wealth and power held by the CCP many of them would be able to secure seat... | >I'm hoping to get a better sense of what the supporters of the CCP actually think about it, and what their view is that I don't understand
This isn't really the forum for such a discussion.
This sub is for you to present a view you truly hold, and that you earnestly want changed, and then we try to change it.
Do ... | y9skqf | CMV: The CCP is, broadly, primarily a corrupt authoritarian dictatorship, and China would be better off as a liberal democracy, | **update:** Hey! I dont have time to respond to every comment but I've read all of them, this has been really interesting and informative! I appreciate the links and the personal stories, and this has really reframed the way I think about a lot of the cultural differences-- i hope people who agree with my initial posit... | nvmthatwasboring | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Children are their own individuals, and their personality should not be influenced by their parents in any way.
From the moment that they are born, children are their own individuals, and are to have their own desires, goals, and personality traits, and should be able to do with their lives as they please. Parent... | To be clear, are you saying parents should not try to teach their children *any* kind of values?
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No, I think that they should provide the information on values and practice their own values in front of their children, but should not FORCE their children to actually follow them.
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Force as in via punishment?... | Are all children expected to be born with some intrinsic ability to accurately assess every situation and identify, without prior experience or knowledge, the same potential outcomes as adults who do have a developed mechanism of self regulation?
And how does the parenting style in your view differ from childhood emot... | 7f9zco | CMV: Children are their own individuals, and their personality should not be influenced by their parents in any way. | From the moment that they are born, children are their own individuals, and are to have their own desires, goals, and personality traits, and should be able to do with their lives as they please. Parents are merely guides, showing them how to care for themselves, basics for daily life, and explaining societal norms. Wh... | E6pqs | 7 | 6 | [
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CMV: There's nothing wrong with going to a restaurant just before close.
It is totally ok to go into a restaurant close to closing time as a customer. Workers complain that it makes them stay longer and that it's rude, but my opinion is that the real beef should be with management. The restaurant could close sooner, c... | Shifting the closing time isn't going to change this. Even if the closing time is an hour earlier, you're still going to have people coming in at the last 5 minutes.
Showing up right before closing because "you're not technically closed" is disrespectful to the waitstaff because your order will push back the time they... | So of course it's ok because the place is still open and the kitchen is still open. It's a matter of if you have any empathy for the fact that you're causing an inconvenience for a dozen people who typically work late into the night and often have school, another job, or have to come back to that job in the morning. ... | elg9m5 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with going to a restaurant just before close. | It is totally ok to go into a restaurant close to closing time as a customer. Workers complain that it makes them stay longer and that it's rude, but my opinion is that the real beef should be with management. The restaurant could close sooner, could close the kitchen before the closing time, or just simply not seat pe... | Pficky | 4 | 4 | [
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It is totally ok to go into a restaurant close to closing time as a customer. Workers complain that it makes them stay longer and that it's rude, but my opinion is that the real beef should be with management. The restaurant could close sooner, c... | Shifting the closing time isn't going to change this. Even if the closing time is an hour earlier, you're still going to have people coming in at the last 5 minutes.
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CMV: senators must be elected by electoral college and serve a lifetime term
Instead of direct elections, senators are elected through an electoral college whose members would be elected by the state's population, in the same districts in which the electoral college elects the president.
However, to elect a senator, ... | > Furthermore, senators would have a lifetime mandate, which would allow them to vote with complete independence from public opinion and lobby groups, as they would not depend on periodic elections to remain in office.
You haven’t really thought this through now have you? If you think deep enough you can figure out yo... | You want politics to be *less* about the public’s opinions?
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I think there must be a balance. No concern for public opinion is despotism. The whole concern is populism. Both are evil. Therefore, there should be an intermediate point between the two. The big question would be where that point would be.
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Non an... | 1d25ie2 | CMV: senators must be elected by electoral college and serve a lifetime term | Instead of direct elections, senators are elected through an electoral college whose members would be elected by the state's population, in the same districts in which the electoral college elects the president.
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CMV: I don't think requiring a vaccine card is racists against Black Americans.
I've been seeing a lot of claims about only 25-30% of Black Americans are vaccinated. I'm not 100% about the number but the point is that Black Americans are getting vaccinated at a lower number than average. Thus, this became a point of a... | I haven’t seen that at all. And I wonder whether they are simply trying to make a political point about voting rather than vaccines.
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Black communities are more hesitant in a lot of ways to different medicines. Part starts with the Tuskegee experiments.
Part has to do with actual racial differences… Did you know... | i didn’t realize getting the card is being contended as possibly being racist. it’d be nice if many communities that have a non-white OR low income majority had more infrastructure to get vaccines to needed places like the elderly or homebodies, but it is possible to get a vax.
i think it’s just antivaxxers creating ... | p4hqb6 | CMV: I don't think requiring a vaccine card is racists against Black Americans. | I've been seeing a lot of claims about only 25-30% of Black Americans are vaccinated. I'm not 100% about the number but the point is that Black Americans are getting vaccinated at a lower number than average. Thus, this became a point of argument from many "anti-vaxxers and vaccine skeptics" that the requirement for va... | GummiePiggie | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The same progressives who criticize past generations as "bigoted" are going to be considered bigoted just the same by future generations.
It's trendy to criticize people of past eras: "How could they (say/do) (bigoted/racist/sexist/homophobic thing) when it's so *obvious* that that was a bad thing to do?"
What I... | So? Why should anyone be concerned about this?
I might be wrong about something I believe right now? Yeah, I've always known that. People in the future might criticize me? Well, maybe they would have good reason to, I don't know. I'll do my best for now, and if I learn later I'm making a mistake, I'll try to own up to... | I already think Gen Z is the most bigoted generation since the boomers. Ther's a point where anti-racism becomes racism, and Gen Z is well beyond that point. When spoiled cis, hetero white kids start dictating to minority communities what they should be offended by, that's bigotry.
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Rather want them than the oth... | 163zgte | CMV: The same progressives who criticize past generations as "bigoted" are going to be considered bigoted just the same by future generations. | It's trendy to criticize people of past eras: "How could they (say/do) (bigoted/racist/sexist/homophobic thing) when it's so *obvious* that that was a bad thing to do?"
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CMV: You should be able to say the “S” word and the “Ano-“ word on Reddit.
On Reddit, whenever You use certain terms in certain spaces you’re automatically sent a message to call a hotline. If you post about the [Boston marathon](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna373141) and the “we did it Reddit” situation, the si... | Every reply in this post has used terms suicide and anorexia and nobody is getting banned.
Words themselves are not a reason to get banned. It's how you use them. Or in other words, don't be a dickhead.
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I did not use the word ban in my post. I said you should be able to use these terms anywhere on Reddit. I star... | Prostitution doesn't kill more people than these practices. That's ludicrous. People might kill prostitutes, but that is murder and not the result of prostitution. The act of prostitution is simply the exchange of sexual favors for money. Death doesn't factor into that at all.
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It’s only ludicrous because it’s unp... | vl36vk | CMV: You should be able to say the “S” word and the “Ano-“ word on Reddit. | On Reddit, whenever You use certain terms in certain spaces you’re automatically sent a message to call a hotline. If you post about the [Boston marathon](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna373141) and the “we did it Reddit” situation, the site just assumes you need help and most subs auto-remove your post. Meaning y... | catniagara | 3 | 3 | [
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On Reddit, whenever You use certain terms in certain spaces you’re automatically sent a message to call a hotline. If you post about the [Boston marathon](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna373141) and the “we did it Reddit” situation, the si... | I don't believe using the word anorexia will cause you to be banned, there are subreddits dedicated to those seeking treatment for that medical condition. It would be like banning the word cancer.
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Not banned but you often get the post removed or you are sent a self-help message. You can be banned for talking abou... | Prostitution doesn't kill more people than these practices. That's ludicrous. People might kill prostitutes, but that is murder and not the result of prostitution. The act of prostitution is simply the exchange of sexual favors for money. Death doesn't factor into that at all.
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It’s only ludicrous because it’s unp... | vl36vk | CMV: You should be able to say the “S” word and the “Ano-“ word on Reddit. | On Reddit, whenever You use certain terms in certain spaces you’re automatically sent a message to call a hotline. If you post about the [Boston marathon](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna373141) and the “we did it Reddit” situation, the site just assumes you need help and most subs auto-remove your post. Meaning y... | catniagara | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Each population has the government they deserve.
This idea may not apply to countries where the head of government isn't chosen by the people, but always applies to countries where the members of the parliament are chosen by the population. It would be unfair for people like Somalians and North Koreans.
My coun... | How generalized is your view?
Obviously, the people who are voting for a corrupt government that doesn't serve their interests have been manipulated into doing so, one way or another. So could you generalize your view to "People who are manipulated into acting against their self interest deserve the consequences of th... | What about education? Never attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance. Trump supporters aren't all evil, most are just fucking stupid. Don't stupid people deserve a leader who will care for them, teach them and put them in a better station where they can potentially become less stupid? You're basically say... | 8dshvq | CMV: Each population has the government they deserve. | This idea may not apply to countries where the head of government isn't chosen by the people, but always applies to countries where the members of the parliament are chosen by the population. It would be unfair for people like Somalians and North Koreans.
My country's politicians are mostly very corrupt. The exceptio... | garaile64 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Changing the gender of the teacher in the song 'When I Kissed the Teacher' in Mamma Mia Here We Go Again was unnecessary and sends a harmful message.
Why i hold this view; I think either we are ok with a light hearted song about a student kissing a teacher they have a crush on are we aren't. Changing it from a ma... | I think you're overlooking (maybe willfully) a pretty simple consideration when you are writing or adapting a script; and that would be consistent messaging. You also have to consider that fans will often take every single word and interpret it as important canon. So if you want to have a character sing a silly song wi... | > Changing it from a male teacher to a female teacher sends the message that if it were a male teacher it wouldn't have been,
There could have been a lot of other reasons why the change would be made - the one you mention, perhaps LGBTI+ representation, perhaps it fits better with some other storyline in the film (I ... | eldm8x | CMV: Changing the gender of the teacher in the song 'When I Kissed the Teacher' in Mamma Mia Here We Go Again was unnecessary and sends a harmful message. | Why i hold this view; I think either we are ok with a light hearted song about a student kissing a teacher they have a crush on are we aren't. Changing it from a male teacher to a female teacher sends the message that if it were a male teacher it wouldn't have been, but it's somehow perfectly acceptable if it's a femal... | AXone1814 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It isn’t bigoted or biphobic to not want to date bisexual/multisexual people.
I am a heterosexual male. When it comes to romantic relationships, I have a strong preference for women who also identify as heterosexual. I have nothing against bisexual, pansexual, polysexual, omnisexual, etc. women - other than that ... | If you are claiming that you simply don't' date ANY bi person you are being bigoted towards bi people.
You aren't seeing the individual.
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For me specifically, that’s not the case. I’m not opposed to dating all bi, pan, etc. women, I just *prefer* not dating them but I don’t understand how this is a matter of not... | >When it comes to romantic relationships, I have a strong preference for women who also identify as heterosexual.
Can you explain a bit more as to why you have this preference and how you know that you have it?
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Two reasons. One is the whole deal I explained in the post about how dating women who are solely attra... | tgsm9h | CMV: It isn’t bigoted or biphobic to not want to date bisexual/multisexual people. | I am a heterosexual male. When it comes to romantic relationships, I have a strong preference for women who also identify as heterosexual. I have nothing against bisexual, pansexual, polysexual, omnisexual, etc. women - other than that I usually wouldn’t date them.
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CMV: If x != 0, it makes the most sense to think x / 0 = ∞
x / 0 is considered to be undefined. I don't get it. As you divide anything by a lower and lower number, one that approaches zero, the result approaches infinity. So it'd make sense for x / 0 to be infinity.
I tried googling this before coming here and argume... | If x/0=infinity, then x = 0*infinity. This is true for all values of x. Does that make any sense?
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But if we don't treat infinity as a number, th... | >But still, one could argue that infinity could work the way 0 does.
You could, but you would be wrong.
There are different kinds of infinity, one infinity can be larger than other infinities, even if we are talking about positive infinities. But with positive and negative in particular that makes a huge difference. ... | 12brzpi | CMV: If x != 0, it makes the most sense to think x / 0 = ∞ | x / 0 is considered to be undefined. I don't get it. As you divide anything by a lower and lower number, one that approaches zero, the result approaches infinity. So it'd make sense for x / 0 to be infinity.
I tried googling this before coming here and arguments I've seen against this position are that "infinity isn't... | Konato-san | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: With the decline of religion, people are becoming less charitable and community-centered
So for this CMV, I don't have a lot of objective data, and this is an impression I have from my anecdotal experiences. Please explain to me why this is wrong / not true.
Growing up (my family isn't religious and I'm agnostic... | The only thing I can point out is the most classic mistake most people make when interpreting data:
Correlation is not causation.
Just because 2 things happen at the same time, does not mean that one is caused by the other or vice versa.
It *might* be the case that less religion leads to less charity and community ... | ... how do you account for the vast amount of micro-charity money that people shell out on sites like Go Fund Me? People get to now electively choose what communities they belong to and put their money in support of it.
Especially those stories where people get Venmo'd for things like funeral expenses or surgery.
If... | i08v9f | CMV: With the decline of religion, people are becoming less charitable and community-centered | So for this CMV, I don't have a lot of objective data, and this is an impression I have from my anecdotal experiences. Please explain to me why this is wrong / not true.
Growing up (my family isn't religious and I'm agnostic), I've always felt like my religious friends always had more community activities. They would ... | hwagoolio | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: having children is cruel
Trigger warning: thoughts on life, death and existence
I’ve been struggling with the concept of death for the past week. I feel better today than the last 6 days, but I still feel like existence is a cruel joke.
My grandparents have already passed away. I’m absolutely heartbroken at t... | If you have a net positive life, and die - how can it be considered cruel? It might be pointless, it might work out to nothing in the end. But cruel? Cruel would be to bring someone into existence knowing they're guaranteed to suffer in vain. But if you are likely (greater than 50%) to bring a human into existence who ... | Humans have ALWAYS struggled with coming to terms with the inevitability, uncertainty, and the ultimate finality of death. Yet here we are. Our ancestors went ahead and had kids anyway.
Life is worth experiencing. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t be afraid of losing it.
Edit: I can’t tell you to have or not have kids, but ... | tgpfm2 | CMV: having children is cruel | Trigger warning: thoughts on life, death and existence
I’ve been struggling with the concept of death for the past week. I feel better today than the last 6 days, but I still feel like existence is a cruel joke.
My grandparents have already passed away. I’m absolutely heartbroken at the thought of my parents gettin... | bluemnm93 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We don't "need" more *insert minority* media. (United States)
I'm going to apologize for the wall of text up front. This is a divisive topic and I am very much trying to avoid being misunderstood or accidentally starting a divisive racially charged argument. I'm interested in how and why people justify the counte... | >black media is a niche product aimed at a niche market.
I'm really confused by this. You're saying everyone should be fine having the majority of their media consumption be white, but whites can't enjoy media with black characters?
You're absolutely right about one thing. The reason the vast majority of main charact... | >it’s never been clear to me why we value that kind of representation in media so I’m not sure I’d understand the value of that argument.
do you think that media representation plays any part in forming real-world attitudes? creating or reinforcing stereotypes, for instance?
your whole post seems to be written from... | p5cm58 | CMV: We don't "need" more *insert minority* media. (United States) | I'm going to apologize for the wall of text up front. This is a divisive topic and I am very much trying to avoid being misunderstood or accidentally starting a divisive racially charged argument. I'm interested in how and why people justify the counter-position to this and that is it.
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I'm going to apologize for the wall of text up front. This is a divisive topic and I am very much trying to avoid being misunderstood or accidentally starting a divisive racially charged argument. I'm interested in how and why people justify the counte... | I largely agree with you, but will just say that as an Asian American, my own views on my race have changed drastically throughout the evolution of Asian portrayal in media since I was born, from embarrassment to neutrality to some measure of pride.
I can't speak for others, but as a child I wished I was white...lite... | >it’s never been clear to me why we value that kind of representation in media so I’m not sure I’d understand the value of that argument.
do you think that media representation plays any part in forming real-world attitudes? creating or reinforcing stereotypes, for instance?
your whole post seems to be written from... | p5cm58 | CMV: We don't "need" more *insert minority* media. (United States) | I'm going to apologize for the wall of text up front. This is a divisive topic and I am very much trying to avoid being misunderstood or accidentally starting a divisive racially charged argument. I'm interested in how and why people justify the counter-position to this and that is it.
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CMV: People who use the word "whilst" instead of "while" are just trying to sound smart.
The meaning and grammatical use of "while" and "whilst" is exactly the same and so there is no real reason to use one over the other. In daily conversations, text messages to friends, and even work emails, there is no reason to us... | I use it sometimes to add a light-heartedness to what I'm saying, by invoking an overly formal tone in a joking way. I couldn't imagine anybody who knows me thinking I was trying to sound smart.
Another thing - using 'whilst' doesn't make people sound smart. So I'm not sure you could generalize it as an attempt to so... | whilst sounds cooler than while.
More people would use the cooler sounding word if they weren't so scared of being perceived as trying to sound smart.
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In what way do you think it cooler? "Cooler" could mean, because it makes me sound smart - which is cool.
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> In what way do you think it cooler?
I said it ... | qvt8s1 | CMV: People who use the word "whilst" instead of "while" are just trying to sound smart. | The meaning and grammatical use of "while" and "whilst" is exactly the same and so there is no real reason to use one over the other. In daily conversations, text messages to friends, and even work emails, there is no reason to use the level of formality that comes with using "whilst".
The exceptions to this might be... | broxue | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: 90% of Donald Trump’s public statements are hyperbolic. 50% of Americans Accept These Statements As True.
The following are some of Trump’s most egregious hyperbolic statements:
“On Nov. 7, 2020, as news organizations correctly projected that Biden had defeated him, Trump tweeted the opposite: ‘I WON THIS ELECTI... | It's not just that he's lying. It's that he can't *not* lie. It's a compulsion that he has absolutely no control over. He may even believe that he creates reality by saying these things. Or maybe he just believes that enough people will believe that it will essentially be true in its effects.
I don't buy the idea tha... | Great point but they all do this so it’s not much of a point.
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Obviously, it's a matter of degrees. Trump does this way more often than average and people believe him way more than other politicians due to the hardcore following he has.
And you know this for sure.
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Oh I know and completely agree. My content... | 1h2xlmg | CMV: 90% of Donald Trump’s public statements are hyperbolic. 50% of Americans Accept These Statements As True. | The following are some of Trump’s most egregious hyperbolic statements:
“On Nov. 7, 2020, as news organizations correctly projected that Biden had defeated him, Trump tweeted the opposite: ‘I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!’.”
“Kamala has imported an army of illegal alien gang members and migrant criminals from the dung... | bg02xl | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Democracy is a failure as a concept
1. Democracy gives each citizen (usually of a certain age, the other restrictions tend to have phased out) the right to vote.
2. Each vote is equal in value.
3. Whether it is ranked choice voting, all or nothing, first past the pole, whatever - whoever gets “the most” votes... | Democracy isn’t about choosing the best candidate necessarily, it’s about choosing one that the most number of people can be happy with.
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That’s how it would work in a best case scenario, but it rarely has ever produced those results.
The main issue hiding there is that most people’s happiness with a candidate h... | Power corrupts.
It’s upsetting how many people don’t seem to understand the purpose of democracy. Democracy isn’t a system to pick good leaders. It’s a system to diffuse the base of power to minimize the erosive force of corruption on institutional stability.
A rich society has strong incentives to corrupt leaders.... | lp38yh | CMV: Democracy is a failure as a concept | 1. Democracy gives each citizen (usually of a certain age, the other restrictions tend to have phased out) the right to vote.
2. Each vote is equal in value.
3. Whether it is ranked choice voting, all or nothing, first past the pole, whatever - whoever gets “the most” votes wins, whatever. Mayor, senator, president... | Betwixts | 17 | 17 | [
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CMV: There is no objective and exhaustive definition of "woman/female" or "man/male".
I contend there exists no exhaustive true-or-false definition, even in strictly biological terms, of what a woman is.
There is no definition such that it would include all individuals that are women and exclude all those who are not... | OH come on, the answer is obvious. The male is the one with the small sex cells, and the female is the one with the big sex cells as they need to provide nutrients to the baby
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What if the individual does not make sex cells?
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>What if the individual does not make sex cells?
Male and female are complementary ... | What about: a woman is someone who self-identifies as a woman? (That is, a woman is a person who, in the absence of restraint, limitation, mishap, or coercion, would be in the habit, throughout their life, of identifying themselves using the word "woman" or a corresponding word in another language.)
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Ah I should'v... | j9e9fn | CMV: There is no objective and exhaustive definition of "woman/female" or "man/male". | I contend there exists no exhaustive true-or-false definition, even in strictly biological terms, of what a woman is.
There is no definition such that it would include all individuals that are women and exclude all those who are not in a systematic and meaningful way.
I'll work just with women for the sake of brevit... | Scribbles_ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: HAMAS is at fault for the tragedy in Gaza
I'm not super educated in geopolitics and history. I think it should be easy to CMV. I just need to understand better because from the research I did it seemed pretty clear cut and obvious.
Hamas took control of Gaza in 2007. They provided some social services and now th... | Lets say you're in a foster home with your twin, you grow up there and when you're 13 your foster parents (Britain+US) force you to share a room with a kid who has a history of abuse. You reluctently let him stay because you feel bad for him and the house your foster family moved into 5 years ago used to belong to his ... | Just missin about 75 years worth of context
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Why does that context exonerate current leadership from attacking a superior military and putting it's people in extreme danger?
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Hamas took control of Gaza in 2007. They provided some social services and now the care of the people who live there is under Ham... | Solidjakes | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The fact that it even matters to citizens who is put into the Supreme Court is evidence that (this part of) the system does NOT work as intended and in fact oversteps the boundaries that it is meant to operate within
I originally posted this about a year ago on unpopularopinion and a few people gave some backlash... | Doesn’t this assume that there’s always a single correct way to interpret the constitution?
The founders didn’t agree on what the constitution should be or how it should be interpreted while they were writing it — they each had their own beliefs about what the constitution should be, and you can’t say that only one of... | The constitution is ambiguous or unclear on a lot of issues.
If you read supreme court decisions, often, there are multiple concurring and dissenting opinions. These judges aren't just voting party line. Even when they agree with each other on the outcome, they often disagree enough on the justification to write up ... | dk4p14 | CMV: The fact that it even matters to citizens who is put into the Supreme Court is evidence that (this part of) the system does NOT work as intended and in fact oversteps the boundaries that it is meant to operate within | I originally posted this about a year ago on unpopularopinion and a few people gave some backlash but I didn't care much at the time. Now using that post as a heavy template I would like to state my slightly revised case here for more direct and reliable discourse. The job of a supreme court justice is meant to be to i... | ishnessism | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The European Union should institute a maximum working week of 35-hours in all member states
Why?
There are good principled reasons for reducing the working week. Sound implementation of these principles, moreover, could unify the demands of a European united front against austerity.
Consider the principles. A 3... | How would you respond to someone who sees their freedom curtailed by enforcing a 35h work week? It makes sense to me that to pursue any conception of the good life, people need a certain time budget off work -- the fight by unions against 14h days six days a week with little holiday can I think be motivated by securing... | I work in a distribution center of a supermarket chain. Sometimes people buy more stuff in supermarkets than expected, so there is more work for us and we might have to do overtime. This can change on the very day itself, so you can't plan for it. If this happened with your law in place, supermarkets would get empty sh... | 8wti6i | CMV: The European Union should institute a maximum working week of 35-hours in all member states | Why?
There are good principled reasons for reducing the working week. Sound implementation of these principles, moreover, could unify the demands of a European united front against austerity.
Consider the principles. A 35-hour working week is likely to be more efficient than an unrestricted, or a 40+, working week. I... | TwelveStarsDebates | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Freedom from religion is as or more important than freedom of religion.
There have been thousands and thousands of religions and none have been demonstrated as true, ever. Pretending that you know the will behind everything is a pretentious appeal to authority, most especially when you think your will should be... | Dictionary.com defines religion as "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe...." Therefore, believing there is no greater power, while being a perfectly valid stance, is itself a religion. So the right to believe that is covered under freedom of religion.
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And if someone chooses to live their life as an atheist or agnostic, what law prevents them from doing so? Of course, I assume we're talking about the western world, and not areas of the middle East and South East Asia. | dk42rp | CMV: Freedom from religion is as or more important than freedom of religion. | There have been thousands and thousands of religions and none have been demonstrated as true, ever. Pretending that you know the will behind everything is a pretentious appeal to authority, most especially when you think your will should be above anyone else's.
The act of not baking a cake, refusing service, or no... | FaustusLiberius | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I believe that no major is worthless
I feel like you can major in whatever the hell you want and can be successful in life. In my opinion it's what that person does with his major that will ultimately help him/her in the future. If a person is passionate about his/her major and does study abroad programs, interns... | I think you're drawing a line between the major the successful outcome when I think you should be drawing a line between the _person_ and the outcome. Consider that the major is either a super-charger for the person or it is not.
When we see a person who is a philosophy major and then they attribute much of their s... | networking etc has no relation with what major you pick that's like saying you can be successful in whatever you do as long as you win the lottery, sure technically true but irrelevant
and certain majors simply don't have the job openings to find work in, you can jump high and low that its useful but if no one hires... | 5ot7c9 | CMV: I believe that no major is worthless | I feel like you can major in whatever the hell you want and can be successful in life. In my opinion it's what that person does with his major that will ultimately help him/her in the future. If a person is passionate about his/her major and does study abroad programs, internships, networking etc. then they can major i... | BradBrady | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If a person has enough money, it's best not to work
If a person has enough money in an investment that they can live off the profits, it's better for themself and for society to forgo work.
* A person working can't spend that time on other activities such as home maintenance, hobbies, and spending time helping f... | People who don't work would very probably do something else, either recreationally or as a volunteer during that time. So the risk of liability driving to or being at work, the risk of negative health outcomes, or the risk cost of working has to be measured against the health risks, liability, and costs of whatever you... | >Your work is of no value to society. Some jobs pay well, but they only serve to gain money for either you or for administrators and corporate executives...Other jobs are of value to society but are low paying. If you take these jobs, you decrease the wages of those who must work.
Where would, say, the work of an exp... | j9cmoe | CMV: If a person has enough money, it's best not to work | If a person has enough money in an investment that they can live off the profits, it's better for themself and for society to forgo work.
* A person working can't spend that time on other activities such as home maintenance, hobbies, and spending time helping family and friends.
* Working costs money in the form of tr... | tidalbeing | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Culture accounts for significantly more than people are willing/able to admit
Recently it's become "not PC" to talk about culture and its effects, especially in the US. I suspect this is because culture can be closely related to race.
However, many realities in the US are clearly influenced by culture. The most ... | How can you, on one hand, say that racism and colonialism are relevant factors, but not extend that to being factors in the development of culture? Some of the earliest successes black folks made in breaking into "whites only" spaces were in the realm professional sports and music. How is the fault of black culture tha... | So discounting your anecdotes because, well, anecdotes aren't data, can you link some evidence of your claims about Nigerians vs whatever other group you wanted to compare them to in the US?
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I mean it's widely known and available data.
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However, many realities in the US are clearly influenced by culture. The most obvious example being the wealth disparities among different groups of people. Non-w... | PoachedFlounder | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Cancelling student loans “punish” those who were responsible in taking out and paying their student loans off
I was the kid in college who went to a local community college, chose a local university, lived at home and chose a major that I can make a decent wage in to minimize my student loans. I completely missed... | Do you think healing the sick punishes the healthy?
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This implies that those who took out loans are completely ignorant to the fact that they are loans. People cannot control their sicknesses due to genetics, however loans are a choice. No one forced someone to get a loan.
This also forgets those who struggle to ... | >To see that people could potentially get their loans written off feels like a slap in the face for being responsible
It sucks that you had to go through the experience of having to go into debt to get an education, but just because you unjustly had to go through a shitty situation does not mean that you should expect... | kwzlmu | CMV: Cancelling student loans “punish” those who were responsible in taking out and paying their student loans off | I was the kid in college who went to a local community college, chose a local university, lived at home and chose a major that I can make a decent wage in to minimize my student loans. I completely missed out on the “college” experience in order to be responsible and keep my finances in check. On top of that, I priorit... | sdcunt | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It should not be required to register for the Selective Service to receive Federal Student Aid.
Furthermore: it should not be required to register for the Selective Service period. If there are people who do not need to register for the Selective Service, but they get the very same benefits that I would not be ge... | The reason is a really big war. Like a world War II or I kind of war, or the civil war. Or Vietnam. All four of these wars used the draft.
In times of calm, or in times of small wars, democracy works just fine.
But when states are confronted with major rapidly developing problems, you need less democracy. That's why,... | I think women should be required to register too.
On the small possibility that there is a somehow justifiable reason to call a draft, isn't a little pre-planning justifiable?
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I mean, I couldn't care less really whether women should be required or not. My main concern is that it is required in the first place. P... | j8zkg5 | CMV: It should not be required to register for the Selective Service to receive Federal Student Aid. | Furthermore: it should not be required to register for the Selective Service period. If there are people who do not need to register for the Selective Service, but they get the very same benefits that I would not be getting if I had not registered, that is absolutely wrong.
I'm not necessarily suggesting "make everyon... | Darwinster1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Eugenics would be beneficial for humanity
Let me clarify what I mean first. I am totally opposed to using eugenics for the reduction or elimination of any racial group, selecting specific traits to try and achieve like blue eyes or a larger brain, or discrimination against/violence directed towards any groups of ... | Could you sketch out how you think this would work practically-speaking? Should women be *forced* to abort fetuses that will grow into children with genetic diseases or disabiities if they don't want to do that?
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If the disease would result in a profound reduction in daily quality of life (such as being in constan... | So basically just do it where *you* think the line should be drawn? How do you stop the people who think the line should be elsewhere?
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What's their current consensus?
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They are no... | 1bbfu1o | CMV: Eugenics would be beneficial for humanity | Let me clarify what I mean first. I am totally opposed to using eugenics for the reduction or elimination of any racial group, selecting specific traits to try and achieve like blue eyes or a larger brain, or discrimination against/violence directed towards any groups of people. What I specifically believe could be ben... | Sea_Ground_8208 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Kyle Rittenhouse will go free on all charges and that is justice.
First, let me state I am a progressive and very pro BLM.
The bar for conviction of criminal charges is set extremely high in the United States. After the charges for minor weapon possession were dropped on a technicality regarding barrel length, t... | >It can be very easily assumed by any member of the jury that Rittenhouse acted in self-defense.
I'm no lawyer, but here goes this autodidact's hack at this.
It *can* be assumed he acted in self defence. That's called "the preponderance of the evidence" or in English "more likely than not." And POE is often the stand... | >We must preserve the right to self-defense including using deadly force, if necessary.
The problem is that deadly force _wasn't_ necessary in this situation. Rosenbaum was not armed with any deadly weapon and had not deployed lethal force. Rittenhouse's choice to bring a deadly weapon and his choice to deploy deadly ... | qvfzv8 | CMV: Kyle Rittenhouse will go free on all charges and that is justice. | First, let me state I am a progressive and very pro BLM.
The bar for conviction of criminal charges is set extremely high in the United States. After the charges for minor weapon possession were dropped on a technicality regarding barrel length, there was nothing left to convict on. It can be very easily assumed by an... | NextLevelEvolution | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: The choice of a woman to end a casually risked pregnancy is "cheating the system."
I can understand the right of women to refuse the use of their body by having an abortion done. I'm not happy about it, but I can recognize it. However, if a woman intentionally has sex and risks pregnancy, that is her choice and a... | > you should not get "abortion because oops."
You don't. You get "abortion because we can't require a woman to grow a parasite inside of her body because her body is hers and no one else's."
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> You get "abortion because we can't require a woman to grow a parasite inside of her body because her body is hers and n... | Murder is illegal because sentient individuals experience pain, are conscious and such. We're completely fine with killing cells with 100% human DNA from our skin, from sperm, all that. If you kill a fetus before it develops a brain you have no real reason to feel especially guilty, any more than you'd feel guilty if y... | 5ocfh7 | CMV: The choice of a woman to end a casually risked pregnancy is "cheating the system." | I can understand the right of women to refuse the use of their body by having an abortion done. I'm not happy about it, but I can recognize it. However, if a woman intentionally has sex and risks pregnancy, that is her choice and aborting the fetus (or, gods forbid, baby) is irresponsible.
"Safe sex" - use of condoms,... | satyestru | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: there isn’t a moral/ethical argument for defense of the current form of Zionism, only justifications based on fear.
I’ll start by saying that I’m against nationalism of any kind. But, as a Jewish person.. I understand the desire for a Jewish state and I don’t think people who desire a two state solution have im... | What do you mean by the "modern form of Zionism" and how does that differ from the historical Zionist movements?
The reason I'm asking is that the term Zionism is getting thrown around a lot in general so specifics matter especially when we are asked to give specific arguments.
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Some people who call themselves Z... | This view is based on a false dichotomy: just because an argument is based on fear does not mean that it is not a moral/ethical argument. For example, if I say that it was wrong for you to threaten to burn my house down because it made me fear for my life, the fact that my justification is based on fear does not invali... | 1bbhdd6 | CMV: there isn’t a moral/ethical argument for defense of the current form of Zionism, only justifications based on fear. |
I’ll start by saying that I’m against nationalism of any kind. But, as a Jewish person.. I understand the desire for a Jewish state and I don’t think people who desire a two state solution have immoral views.. I respect this viewpoint. What I don’t feel has a moral defense is anyone justifying the way Israel came into... | Specialist-Gur | 3 | 3 | [
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Cmv: Stereotypes against minorities are to make white people look better.
Asian people are seen as submissive and weak. Attacks against Asians happen not only because of COVID but also because of the notion that Asian people can’t defend themselves. Asians get picked on more because most people believe that Asians wo... | What view do you want changed here? Of course stereotypes harm minorities. That's just a fact.
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Well my point is that they make white people look better.
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Stereotypes don't just go one way. All Asians and African Americans, Africans, Native Americans, Indians, Middle Eastern folks, pacific Islanders, Europe... | Just to clarify, do you believe that there's an overarching goal to stereotyping as opposited to it just being an emergent trend of the worse parts of human nature?
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Yah that would be the case but the stereotypes for white people aren’t as strong.
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CMV: Those who change their opinions resemble sluts, truly great people stay consistent with their views and beliefs
*The title speaks of itself. It really does. There's no need to be too wordy to hit your opponents with a simple truth. 'How do they even resemble sluts?', you may ask. Well, you can find the hint in th... | First I would disagree with your premise as you are implying being a slut is a negative.
Second if you mean core values as in “murder is wrong” then I would agree there are certain core values that should be universal. But if you are saying learning which leads to having a more nuanced point of view is disqualifying ... | What if you find out later that what you believe is factually wrong?
Do you just decide to stay loyal to the first opinion you ever have on a topic until the day you die?
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Some concepts can be clearly explained by logic. While others are ambiguous in nature making the debate never-ending. In the second case, I th... | kwh9a2 | CMV: Those who change their opinions resemble sluts, truly great people stay consistent with their views and beliefs | *The title speaks of itself. It really does. There's no need to be too wordy to hit your opponents with a simple truth. 'How do they even resemble sluts?', you may ask. Well, you can find the hint in the term political prostitute. Real dudes don't and won't betray their core values! Never ever! I gotta elaborate it, so... | Thatguyjanhuan | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: No matter how many or just one, I think a country's citizen isn't wrong to see a terror attack from a foreigner as an act of war
I fail to see why it's a problem to say 'enough is enough'. If a Russian spy was found to have done something terrible in Canada, I don't see Canadians as bad people to say that Russia... | Do you really want it to be that easy for any random person to start a war between two countries?
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Depends on the severity, but yes. If it was proven a Russian spy was, under orders of Russia killed the leader, I don't see why it ISNT an act of war.
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It is, but a spy acting under direction from a foreign *gov... | >Again, at what point before we deem the entire country our enemy?
We do that when the act is sanctioned by that country's government. International law is pretty clear on this point.
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So as long as the country just keeps lying and saying 'naw, I never ordered that' then it's not war?
Even if it isn't, technical... | qve4uy | CMV: No matter how many or just one, I think a country's citizen isn't wrong to see a terror attack from a foreigner as an act of war | I fail to see why it's a problem to say 'enough is enough'. If a Russian spy was found to have done something terrible in Canada, I don't see Canadians as bad people to say that Russia is not our ally.
Same thing with terror attacks in UK. People talk about how it's 'not all terror attacks are done by their governmen... | donotholdyourbreath | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: No matter how many or just one, I think a country's citizen isn't wrong to see a terror attack from a foreigner as an act of war
I fail to see why it's a problem to say 'enough is enough'. If a Russian spy was found to have done something terrible in Canada, I don't see Canadians as bad people to say that Russia... | Do you really want it to be that easy for any random person to start a war between two countries?
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Depends on the severity, but yes. If it was proven a Russian spy was, under orders of Russia killed the leader, I don't see why it ISNT an act of war.
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It is, but a spy acting under direction from a foreign *gov... | I agree completely. For example, [Momin Khawaja](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momin_Khawaja) was a Canadian citizen and *employee of the Canadian government* who conspired to plant bombs in the UK. I don't see the British as bad people to say that Canada is not their ally.
People talk about how it's 'not all terror a... | qve4uy | CMV: No matter how many or just one, I think a country's citizen isn't wrong to see a terror attack from a foreigner as an act of war | I fail to see why it's a problem to say 'enough is enough'. If a Russian spy was found to have done something terrible in Canada, I don't see Canadians as bad people to say that Russia is not our ally.
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CMV : The United States need a third political party or some sort of alternative so that progress can be made.
So in my personal opinion, to have only 2 parties, both of which being completely opposite In view, is somewhat detrimental to progress. From what I’ve seen, if you go too far into 1 belief like for instance ... | Simpsons quote: "It's a two party system, you have to vote for one of us!"
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.......
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Could you explain in further detail. Apologies for this the joke is just l... | A tug of war between two extremes is actually ideal because most of the time you end up with something in the middle. And being that the VAST majority of the country consists of moderates the middle is ideal.
With more than two parties it allows for extremes that wouldn't be possible under our system. Yes that could b... | dk0fz5 | CMV : The United States need a third political party or some sort of alternative so that progress can be made. | So in my personal opinion, to have only 2 parties, both of which being completely opposite In view, is somewhat detrimental to progress. From what I’ve seen, if you go too far into 1 belief like for instance left or right leaning views, then it ultimately descends into fanaticism and dictatorship.
Now these may not be... | EMB1981 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People that lean back in their chairs on cramped planes are not selfish.
I am basing my view entirely on calculations on angles and the amount of lost space due to the lean.
Given that the point at which knees contact the chair is only a few inches from the pivot point, the person behind is only losing a a coup... | First of all, how are you defining "selfish". This is the first hit on Google:
> lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.
What you seem to be describing is more of a "net good vs. bad". That's really different than your title. I don't think there's any doubt th... | For me, the problem has never been lack of leg room. It has always been the lack of space round my upper body. I try to work on planes and it's nearly impossible for me to fit my laptop on the tray table if somebody reclines. It's even harder to get it out of my bag and put it on the table.
Obviously, I don't know th... | 8wn5jo | CMV: People that lean back in their chairs on cramped planes are not selfish. | I am basing my view entirely on calculations on angles and the amount of lost space due to the lean.
Given that the point at which knees contact the chair is only a few inches from the pivot point, the person behind is only losing a a couple inches. Either they will only need to spread their legs a little or, if they... | AxesofAnvil | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't believe it's sexist at all to say men on average are physically stronger and faster than women.
Seriously I don't believe it's sexist at all for me to say men on average are physically stronger and faster than women because those are just fact men have way higher testosterone levels then women do. Which a... | >I also don't think it sexist for me to say women should just work as military support instead of being in the front line or women shouldn't be firefighters because it impossible for them to carry a 200lb person by themselves or women who are police officer should just give people parking tickets instead of trying to s... | It's not sexist to say men on average are stronger.
It *is* sexist to say women are not capable of being soldiers, firefighters ir police officers
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Yep. Agreed. However, both men and women should have to pass the same physical test.
I know a ton of guys who couldn't possibly pass the physical tests to be a polic... | 1iq0hy4 | CMV: I don't believe it's sexist at all to say men on average are physically stronger and faster than women. | Seriously I don't believe it's sexist at all for me to say men on average are physically stronger and faster than women because those are just fact men have way higher testosterone levels then women do. Which allows men to build way more lean muscle then women and allows them to run faster than women. That's why men an... | Broad-Bass-3899 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Some things should stay sacred
Call me old fashioned, but I feel like nothing is sacred anymore, and that’s a bit sad.
Wholesomeness, civility, self-control, and discipline will continue to wither away. The list of etiquettes is perpetually shrinking.
Edginess, swearing, promiscuity, flamboyancy, normalizing ta... | [deleted]
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Just rules in general. It’s easier to do what we want than having to be discouraged from acting/dressing a certain way.
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Who makes these rules and what makes them the arbiter of what is right or wrong?
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We should collectively get together and make these rules.
The same way we decide that ince... | What do you actually think is not sacred anymore? You listed a bunch of subjective values.
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I listed behaviors as well.
Swearing, proper dressing, monogamy, etc
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What does "proper dressing" even mean?
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Not this:
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/134896951309180138/
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What isn’t proper about that outfit?... | kwuzgj | CMV: Some things should stay sacred | Call me old fashioned, but I feel like nothing is sacred anymore, and that’s a bit sad.
Wholesomeness, civility, self-control, and discipline will continue to wither away. The list of etiquettes is perpetually shrinking.
Edginess, swearing, promiscuity, flamboyancy, normalizing taboo, breaking barriers, and all that ... | DrakierX | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: The Washington Nationals’ postseason has been the most entertaining postseasons (by a single team) in baseball.
The Washington Nationals’ postseason has been one of the most entertaining postseasons (by a single team) in baseball
This might be a little long but I’d appreciate responses.
So while I’m not a huge ... | Kinda depends on your definition of entertaining, right? This is difficult for me to even talk about, because the wounds are fresh, but I'd like to direct your attention to Game 5 of the NLDS on the OTHER side, where my dear Atlanta Braves were attempting to limp their way into an NLCS for the first time in nearly 20 ... | I’m not sure what your standard is for entertaining. I’m a Nats fan, so it’s been hugely entertaining for *me,* but I can see where that might not really be the case for someone that isn’t a fan. 4 game sweeps wit multiple games where a team take a huge lead early and then hold it isn’t exactly scintillating baseball... | djwdwu | CMV: The Washington Nationals’ postseason has been the most entertaining postseasons (by a single team) in baseball. | The Washington Nationals’ postseason has been one of the most entertaining postseasons (by a single team) in baseball
This might be a little long but I’d appreciate responses.
So while I’m not a huge Nationals fan (Jays/Cubs are my teams) I am a huge Bryce Harper fan and I wish he was still on the Nationals. He’s my ... | cujo132 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Historical inaccuracies in media are fine as long as they exemplify the period
There's a ongoing debate I see from history buffs when movies or stories come out that have historical topics should be accurate to the time period and get all up in arms when things are shown to be not true or inaccurate, because it m... | Yeah, this makes me seethe tbh - watching films like Braveheart and such.
My question is - if the story is the important thing, why not just write a fictional story with fictional characters set in a particular period? They're selling a product partly on historicity - the more you change about history, the more it bec... | >There's a ongoing debate I see from history buffs when movies or stories come out that have historical topics should be accurate to the time period and get all up in arms when things are shown to be not true or inaccurate, because it misrepresents history.
>This can teach the audience about the period
>Otherwise, hi... | 1iptjaq | CMV: Historical inaccuracies in media are fine as long as they exemplify the period | There's a ongoing debate I see from history buffs when movies or stories come out that have historical topics should be accurate to the time period and get all up in arms when things are shown to be not true or inaccurate, because it misrepresents history.
I think this is wrong, and limits expression though my argumen... | PliablePotato | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Muslim's over-react to Mohammad being depicted in cartoons and such
Okay, so I get why the prophet Muhammad is revered. My step-dad is Muslim and I have been surrounded by the culture almost my whole life.
I also understand why it is disrespectful to make fun of such a figure. However, and this is a big however,... | It is forbidden in Islam to depict Mohammed at all, and in some stricter sects there is prohibitions of depicting any human figures at all. These stem from Islamic rules concerning idolatry. It is not accurate to compare his depiction to that Jesus, whose likeness is an acceptable and religiously significant. The outra... | Muslims don't allow the depiction of Muhammad at all, it doesn't matter if it is used to glorify or satirized it is considered Idol worship and heresy. If you look at their Mosques, they don't include depictions of any people, only calligraphy and geometric designs.
https://drscdn.500px.org/photo/50669196/m=900_k=1_a... | 5omc9l | CMV: Muslim's over-react to Mohammad being depicted in cartoons and such | Okay, so I get why the prophet Muhammad is revered. My step-dad is Muslim and I have been surrounded by the culture almost my whole life.
I also understand why it is disrespectful to make fun of such a figure. However, and this is a big however, what people say and do regarding Jesus is far worse than anything ever sa... | Chewyman11 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Trump is not evil and his supporters are not racist idiots.
If you listen to what Trump says in interviews between questions, or when he does not realize he is on camera, or if you see the nuance in what he says, you will notice something. He genuinely wants to make America great. He wants to be the person who br... | > If you listen to what Trump says in interviews between questions, or when he does not realize he is on camera, or if you see the nuance in what he says, you will notice something. He genuinely wants to make America great. He wants to be the person who brings the most "greatness" to The United States.
I listened to t... | Everyone who ever did evil wanted to do good. hitler was a true patriot, to use a cliche figurehead. what makes some evil is not that they aren't well intentioned, it's that their inability to bound their intentions leads to an excess of evil in order to achieve a modicum of good. That's trump in a nutshell if you as... | j8woez | CMV: Trump is not evil and his supporters are not racist idiots. | If you listen to what Trump says in interviews between questions, or when he does not realize he is on camera, or if you see the nuance in what he says, you will notice something. He genuinely wants to make America great. He wants to be the person who brings the most "greatness" to The United States.
His supporters fo... | VeryOriginalName98 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Trump is not evil and his supporters are not racist idiots.
If you listen to what Trump says in interviews between questions, or when he does not realize he is on camera, or if you see the nuance in what he says, you will notice something. He genuinely wants to make America great. He wants to be the person who br... | >The worst of all of this is that there is a general misunderstanding of what the problems are. Illegal immigrants are not taking jobs, automation is. Smart people are not leaving small towns because they hate their family and neighbors, it is because the only decent jobs are knowledge work. These jobs require college.... | I disagree that the outcome people seek is for a better America from two different points of view; anti-globalist Trump supporters and their ilk want an America that celebrates the founding principles, its documents and history from revolution to civil war to defeating Imperialism in WW2. Globalists want an acknowledge... | j8woez | CMV: Trump is not evil and his supporters are not racist idiots. | If you listen to what Trump says in interviews between questions, or when he does not realize he is on camera, or if you see the nuance in what he says, you will notice something. He genuinely wants to make America great. He wants to be the person who brings the most "greatness" to The United States.
His supporters fo... | VeryOriginalName98 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you are an adult who doesn't know how to take care of your car or home, it is not your father's fault.
If I see one more "I didn't have a father to teach me, so tell me how to take care of my car." Or "My father couldn't be bothered to teach me how to take care of my car." Or "My father never taught me how to ... | The problem is (I'm making an educated guess) mechanics is generally a male dominated role/profession. If we are supposed to learn basic life lessons from those who raise us, it would make sense the father would impart that knowledge. The Internet has made this process much easier, but it still helps to have someone yo... | The intent behind your statement I can infer is that people should stop making excuses on learning how to do something. I agree with your intent if this is the case.
The examples you give are people are trying to give justification as to why they lack common sense and are asking questions as to how they can conduct t... | gpfu5l | CMV: If you are an adult who doesn't know how to take care of your car or home, it is not your father's fault. | If I see one more "I didn't have a father to teach me, so tell me how to take care of my car." Or "My father couldn't be bothered to teach me how to take care of my car." Or "My father never taught me how to be handy..."
Like, it's good to see folks reaching out for advice where a parent hadn't taught them, but (a) se... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Global Climate Change can be stunted without reducing the unprecedented excess of luxuries we somehow feel entitled to
People like nice things, and they are not willing to give them up. The United States didn't want to give up its precious oil, so it instead spent over $1.1 trillion dollars, sentenced over 18,832... | [deleted]
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Gas is only used during acceleration and deceleration. A small amount of acceleration is needed to keep at a constant speed against friction trying to slow the vehicle down, but the greatest waste of fuel is bringing the vehicle to a stop and accelerating it again. Self-driving cars will be connected to... | [deleted]
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So true. However, theoretically, if we could convince every human on the planet to radically alter their lifestyle in order to make their carbon footprint negative, we have until like 2050 (give or take a few decades) to reverse global climate change. Should I be waiting and hoping or coming to terms wi... | kwv7es | CMV: Global Climate Change can be stunted without reducing the unprecedented excess of luxuries we somehow feel entitled to | People like nice things, and they are not willing to give them up. The United States didn't want to give up its precious oil, so it instead spent over $1.1 trillion dollars, sentenced over 18,832 troops to death (plus 119,752 detained), killed (indirectly or directly) up to a million civilians, and wreaked uncountable ... | ILikeToPlayWithDogs | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Vaccines are not actually as good as everyone believes
Hello everyone!
First off, sorry, if the title is not sufficient for the post, and for any grammar/spelling mistakes.
​
So, it's a bit more complicated:
I'm not vaccinated. I've received basic vaccinations while I was a baby, and got one or two mor... | So anyone who does even a cursory bit of research is well aware that vaccines (some more than others) do carry some risks. That's a thing.
However these risks have been studied and on the whole, they're small.
On the other hand, polio is pretty awful. Tetanus is a horrifying thing. Measles killed a lot of fol... | There is an exception for every rule (this applies to everything in life)
Your mom happens to be the exception to the rule that for every 10000 vaccines 1 person has a bad reaction but that 1 person hurt by the vaccine is outweighed by the 9999 people that now dont get polio measles small pox mumps etc
Its all about... | j96o4y | CMV: Vaccines are not actually as good as everyone believes | Hello everyone!
First off, sorry, if the title is not sufficient for the post, and for any grammar/spelling mistakes.
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So, it's a bit more complicated:
I'm not vaccinated. I've received basic vaccinations while I was a baby, and got one or two more around the age of 6 years, but since then, I've never been ... | Korlimann | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Vaccines are not actually as good as everyone believes
Hello everyone!
First off, sorry, if the title is not sufficient for the post, and for any grammar/spelling mistakes.
​
So, it's a bit more complicated:
I'm not vaccinated. I've received basic vaccinations while I was a baby, and got one or two mor... | So anyone who does even a cursory bit of research is well aware that vaccines (some more than others) do carry some risks. That's a thing.
However these risks have been studied and on the whole, they're small.
On the other hand, polio is pretty awful. Tetanus is a horrifying thing. Measles killed a lot of fol... | I would describe your parents as anti-vax. However, I will avoid calling them that outside this instance and instead refer to the idea as "vaccine skepticism".
Do you see any similarities between vaccine skepticism and the anti-mask movement?
Vaccines rely on an idea called herd immunity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w... | j96o4y | CMV: Vaccines are not actually as good as everyone believes | Hello everyone!
First off, sorry, if the title is not sufficient for the post, and for any grammar/spelling mistakes.
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So, it's a bit more complicated:
I'm not vaccinated. I've received basic vaccinations while I was a baby, and got one or two more around the age of 6 years, but since then, I've never been ... | Korlimann | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If Catholics Believe Nuns Are Married to Christ, and Bread Is the Body of Christ, Nuns Should Be Allowed to Have Sex With Bread.
This assumes the bread is consecrated, as in the eucharist. As I see it, if Catholics believe that:
Sex within marriage is allowed, but outside of marriage is sinful;
Nuns are married ... | Assuming you’re serious here, it’s important to understand that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ only symbolically, not in a metaphysical sense.
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And it's same for nuns. Nuns and priests aren't literally married to Christ. A bride of Christ is a rarely used term taken from the Bible that was used as s... | Are you talking about actual bread? The stuff that you eat?
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Yes, when consecrated during the eucharist. I suppose the same logic would apply to communion wafers... | kwsx5v | CMV: If Catholics Believe Nuns Are Married to Christ, and Bread Is the Body of Christ, Nuns Should Be Allowed to Have Sex With Bread. | This assumes the bread is consecrated, as in the eucharist. As I see it, if Catholics believe that:
Sex within marriage is allowed, but outside of marriage is sinful;
Nuns are married to Christ;
The eucharist transubstantiates into the literal body of Christ;
then it follows that they should be able to have sex with ... | FreeHose | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: If Catholics Believe Nuns Are Married to Christ, and Bread Is the Body of Christ, Nuns Should Be Allowed to Have Sex With Bread.
This assumes the bread is consecrated, as in the eucharist. As I see it, if Catholics believe that:
Sex within marriage is allowed, but outside of marriage is sinful;
Nuns are married ... | Assuming you’re serious here, it’s important to understand that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ only symbolically, not in a metaphysical sense.
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And it's same for nuns. Nuns and priests aren't literally married to Christ. A bride of Christ is a rarely used term taken from the Bible that was used as s... | Are you talking about actual bread? The stuff that you eat?
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Ok. But why though? Like why would someone want to have sex with bread?
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Catholics believe that when consecrated, the bread becomes the lit... | kwsx5v | CMV: If Catholics Believe Nuns Are Married to Christ, and Bread Is the Body of Christ, Nuns Should Be Allowed to Have Sex With Bread. | This assumes the bread is consecrated, as in the eucharist. As I see it, if Catholics believe that:
Sex within marriage is allowed, but outside of marriage is sinful;
Nuns are married to Christ;
The eucharist transubstantiates into the literal body of Christ;
then it follows that they should be able to have sex with ... | FreeHose | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Euthanasia and neutering of pet animals should generally be banned
I think a lot of the softness / weirdness / decadence in modern society comes from (or coincides with) our wrong and bizarre opinions about animals.
I believe these 2 practices are large contributors to our wrong beliefs about animals.
**Euthan... | These are done with livestock
**Are you a vegan? Because if you are this is a vegan argument.**
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What are you referencing here exactly?
I'm not a vegan, I'm about as far from a vegan as you can get. I understand that animals have absolutely 0 rights, as everyone knew and believed until 10 minutes ago.
But the... | As a former vet assistant, I strongly disagree. Euthanasia is a good thing in the majority of situations. Letting an animal suffer needlessly is cruel. Yes it sucks having to do this but Vets see it objectively, not subjectivity. Very important if you want to get into animal or human medicine
We have way too many ... | 1h25ky6 | CMV: Euthanasia and neutering of pet animals should generally be banned | I think a lot of the softness / weirdness / decadence in modern society comes from (or coincides with) our wrong and bizarre opinions about animals.
I believe these 2 practices are large contributors to our wrong beliefs about animals.
**Euthanasia**
- First, is demonstrably very harmful to the poor vets who are fo... | wormno | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is No Way to Consistently Determine Between if a Botanical Fruit is a Culinary Fruit or Vegetable
First, let me establish the difference between the culinary and botanical world.
The botanical world *has no vegetables*. There are only fruits that happen to have the same name as the term in a culinary sense... | > I have yet to find an example where a culinary fruit isn’t a botanical fruit.
Rhubarb comes close to this. It's almost exclusively used for "sweet" rather than "savory" purposes, which seems to be your working definition of culinary fruit vs vegetable.
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I used that as an example of a definition to classify the... | clarifying question: by "culinary fruit", do you mean "what we all call a fruit linguistically?"
i don't know anything about the botanical classification of plants, so some questions:
where you say, "the botanical world has no vegetables"...
where does the botanical world put something like lettuce? is that just a r... | djnbnu | CMV: There is No Way to Consistently Determine Between if a Botanical Fruit is a Culinary Fruit or Vegetable | First, let me establish the difference between the culinary and botanical world.
The botanical world *has no vegetables*. There are only fruits that happen to have the same name as the term in a culinary sense. And they both just happen to be typically edible. Botanical fruits also are the seed bearing structure of a ... | ArcticCactie | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If male privilege exists, then so does female privilege
Furthermore, not only does female privilege exist, but it is largely ignored by females and modern society.
Off the top of my head, here are a few examples. Girls tend to outperform boys in school. Males are much more likely to be victims of violence. Male... | I don't think you know what 'male privilege' is referring to. It's not saying 'in 100% of scenarios, it is better to be male' because, as you have stated, there are scenarios in which being female is better. 'Male privilege' is referring to the fact that, overall, it's better to be male than female.
I don't know how ... | "Male privilege" is a serious sociological term that has been the subject of serious academic study, since at least the 1970s. "Female privilege" is a term that is used primarily by Men's Rights activists, a term created essentially as an imitation of "male privilege" without any serious thought behind it (but an inher... | 8whg74 | CMV: If male privilege exists, then so does female privilege | Furthermore, not only does female privilege exist, but it is largely ignored by females and modern society.
Off the top of my head, here are a few examples. Girls tend to outperform boys in school. Males are much more likely to be victims of violence. Male parental rights are significantly less. Many sharehouse renta... | fairlygreen | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV. Our laws are the only difference between what is a crime and what is capitalism.
First I’d like to state that I am not anti-capitalism, but I believe it has gone too far.I consider myself to be 1/3 capitalist 1/3 socialist and 1/3 anarchist.
I don’t believe we can erase capitalism because it is inherent in all o... | That's not capitalism, this is capitalism:
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The word itself comes from _capital_:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/capital?ref=etymon... | Capitalism is based on consented trade.
Crimes are based on trade, or taking without consent.
Capital is not referring to capitalizing, it’s referring to private property including money, or capital being used and accumulated by an individual as that individual sees fit.
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I don’t believe we can erase capitalism because it is inherent in all of us, but it’s probably not the best part of us. If we tried to make laws against capit... | yourupinion | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Chicken burgers are not chicken sandwiches.
I don't understand why some people call two completely different things "chicken sandwiches".
Now obviously I don't want to get all reductive about how anything between bread can be considered a sandwich and all hamburgers are actually sandwiches anyway. A chicken san... | If the patty is made from ground meat, ground fish, or vegetables(pushing the burger definition here) and then pan-fried or grilled, it's a burger. If it's a whole piece of grilled or fried meat on a bun, it's a sandwich.
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So there's no such thing as a steak burger?
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A steak burger is still typically made fro... | Wanting to call a fried chicken sandwich a burger goes against pretty much every instinct I have about what the word "burger" means
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>Wanting to call a fried chicken sandwich a burger
Why? And why are all the other things called burgers?
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ground, shaped patty
anything fried in batter and placed between br... | 1iow9fz | CMV: Chicken burgers are not chicken sandwiches. | I don't understand why some people call two completely different things "chicken sandwiches".
Now obviously I don't want to get all reductive about how anything between bread can be considered a sandwich and all hamburgers are actually sandwiches anyway. A chicken sandwich (loosely speaking) has roast chicken or deli... | 6data | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Human are extremely inefficient at progressing scientifically/technologically
It seems we are biologically predisposed to spend more time on dramatic events, celeb news, religious beliefs, entertainment rather than acquiring knowledge. Most people don't even care about the scientific method and believe what they ... | No other species has gotten past sharpening sticks. We’re also the only species that teaches complex things to our young. Our technology is growing exponentially.
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Yes, but the question is do you believe we are efficient at making progress? Like I said, it's not about the progress we have made so far. It's about w... | > Human are extremely inefficient at progressing scientifically/technologically
Compared to what?
If humans are bad at advancing scientifically, we must have had really good luck because we're definitely by far the most scientifically advanced species that has evolved on earth.
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Compared to the minority of peopl... | gpd8mb | CMV: Human are extremely inefficient at progressing scientifically/technologically | It seems we are biologically predisposed to spend more time on dramatic events, celeb news, religious beliefs, entertainment rather than acquiring knowledge. Most people don't even care about the scientific method and believe what they want to believe, which is usually something that makes them feel nice and warm.
Rel... | ObjectiveRealism | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: It should be illegal for US Senators or Congressmembers to hire a tax accocuntant or tax attorney to do their taxes.
These people are responsible for writing the tax law in the first place. That's an important part of thier jobs. If they can't do it without help then either, 1) they aren't competent to be writin... | Do surgeons perform surgeries on themselves?
There is a big difference between drafting tax legislation and utilizing tax legislation. Drafting tax legislation is a highly political process, while the preparation of taxes is a highly technical process. These two processes require different skill sets and that is why p... | Just because completing a tax return is time consuming that does not mean it is too complex.
Senators/ congress members are well paid and may have several investments etc. resulting in a time consuming tax return.
That does not mean they should have to spend their time doing it, they should be free to hire an indiv... | hsmbbc | CMV: It should be illegal for US Senators or Congressmembers to hire a tax accocuntant or tax attorney to do their taxes. | These people are responsible for writing the tax law in the first place. That's an important part of thier jobs. If they can't do it without help then either, 1) they aren't competent to be writing tax laws, and they should be fired, or 2) they are writing laws that are far too complex, therefore, they are just doing ... | Don_Q_Jote | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Using terms like ‘fascist’ politically is pointless.
Hi there, second post I’ve made here.
I feel that using harsh attacks like ‘fascist’ in politics just tees up the target for an easy victory for two main reasons:
**It’s useless to call out preemptively because of the “The Boy Who Cried Wolf” effect.**
If yo... | What if, instead of crying wolf, you highlight the similarities between fascists and a current politician, people ignore you, and then that politician does more things reminiscent of a fascist?
What I mean is that I don't think it's a bad idea to call a spade a spade.
---
Yeah the lesson from the Boy Who Cried Wolf... | Do you think words in general have power?
What contexts do you think words matter more/less?
---
“Do you think words in general have power?“
When it comes to intelligent actors, no. Intelligent actors understand your words and can, like a martial artist deflecting a punch, turn your own accusations into opportuni... | 1iooz92 | CMV: Using terms like ‘fascist’ politically is pointless. | Hi there, second post I’ve made here.
I feel that using harsh attacks like ‘fascist’ in politics just tees up the target for an easy victory for two main reasons:
**It’s useless to call out preemptively because of the “The Boy Who Cried Wolf” effect.**
If you sound the alarm about a threat many times, and nothing ha... | BraxbroWasTaken | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: There is Nothing Trump Can Do that Would Lose Your Support if You Gave it to Him Already.
So at one point Trump had said he could shoot someone and not lose support. “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn't lose any voters, okay?" and although I have given a lot of respect to T... | I frequent asktrumpsupporters a lot, and I don't see them moving the goalposts. It's more like their goalposts are just a lot different than what those on the left value.
They have never seemed to care about his antics and demeanor. They care about policies.
But if he suddenly wanted to roll out free college and M4A,... | [deleted]
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1 delta not awarded | djasp4 | CMV: There is Nothing Trump Can Do that Would Lose Your Support if You Gave it to Him Already. | So at one point Trump had said he could shoot someone and not lose support. “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn't lose any voters, okay?" and although I have given a lot of respect to Trump voters by listening to their claims, it appears they are always willing to move the goal po... | concept2creation | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Russia meddling in the U.S. election is no different than the U.S. meddling in Venezuela
One of the biggest topics in the U.S. right now is foreign interference in our elections. A news report came out today by U.S. intelligence agencies that states that Russia and China are working together to influence the 2020... | >How is the meddling they are doing any different from us explicitly telling the Venezuelan people to overthrow their government?
Overt vs. covert. When we tell the Venezuelan's to overthrown their president, it is clear who is saying this. Venezuelans who hear the message know it is coming from the US and can evalu... | I think this is a subjective/objective sort of question.
If someone kills my girlfriend I am going to be more upset than if a random woman dies in an airstrike in the middle east. We could make the same argument "its the same mechanical act, one woman is dying either way". However, I am not this perfect calculation ma... | al4y03 | CMV: Russia meddling in the U.S. election is no different than the U.S. meddling in Venezuela | One of the biggest topics in the U.S. right now is foreign interference in our elections. A news report came out today by U.S. intelligence agencies that states that Russia and China are working together to influence the 2020 elections. How is the meddling they are doing any different from us explicitly telling the Ven... | impossiblecode | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Cultural appropriation is a western concept
I’m tired of seeing people getting mad/hating on people for wearing clothing of other cultures or even wearing hairstyles of other cultures like braids. All these people who claim that this is cultural appropriation are wrong. Cultural appropriation is taking a part of... | > They twisted the meaning of cultural appropriation to basically being if you want to participate in a culture its appropriation.
What do you mean they twisted it? Do you think there is an original, good definition of cultural appropriation?
Is *that* inherently western?
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I think the real definition of cultur... | Native Americans have been pretty vocal in objecting to the appropriation of their culture for quite a while. Do they also count as "Western"?
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When I say western I mean America/Canada excluding native Americans since they have there own culture while Americans/Canadians do not.
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Right. So how do you deal wit... | lo3sg6 | CMV: Cultural appropriation is a western concept |
I’m tired of seeing people getting mad/hating on people for wearing clothing of other cultures or even wearing hairstyles of other cultures like braids. All these people who claim that this is cultural appropriation are wrong. Cultural appropriation is taking a part of ones culture and either claiming it as your own o... | CrazyMonkey2003 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Cultural appropriation is a western concept
I’m tired of seeing people getting mad/hating on people for wearing clothing of other cultures or even wearing hairstyles of other cultures like braids. All these people who claim that this is cultural appropriation are wrong. Cultural appropriation is taking a part of... | Native Americans have been pretty vocal in objecting to the appropriation of their culture for quite a while. Do they also count as "Western"?
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When I say western I mean America/Canada excluding native Americans since they have there own culture while Americans/Canadians do not.
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Do you mean Americans who are... | Cultural appropriation, as it was originally used academically, is a neutral concept. It was originally used to describe how dominant cultural groups have a habit of adopting cultural items from non-dominant groups, without making a moral judgement as to whether that's good or bad. "It's only cultural appropriation if ... | lo3sg6 | CMV: Cultural appropriation is a western concept |
I’m tired of seeing people getting mad/hating on people for wearing clothing of other cultures or even wearing hairstyles of other cultures like braids. All these people who claim that this is cultural appropriation are wrong. Cultural appropriation is taking a part of ones culture and either claiming it as your own o... | CrazyMonkey2003 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Self-driving cars don't need to solve the trolley problem
A recurring theme I see is that self-driving cars will need to solve the trolley problem or some other forms of ethical dilemmas. I find this absurd.
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining about ethics or philosophy. Those are worthwhile endeavors a... | You just gave a particular answer to the trolley problem that you're saying self-driving cars should use in your claim that the car doesn't need to solve the trolley problem.
> the most ethical thing to do is not to make your car ethical when it has to kill people. It's to make your car kill fewer people.
That is one... | Still, what should happen if a collision of some kind is unavoidable?
---
Still try to avoid it. The car will never detect an unavoidable collision. Just paths with higher and lower probabilities.
---
Ok,
Here is a situation:
Car can turn left (towards a concrete divider) or right (towards a school bus)
Left - ... | al3a3f | CMV: Self-driving cars don't need to solve the trolley problem | A recurring theme I see is that self-driving cars will need to solve the trolley problem or some other forms of ethical dilemmas. I find this absurd.
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining about ethics or philosophy. Those are worthwhile endeavors and even when they are just playing word games, it's no worst tha... | AlexandreZani | 9 | 9 | [
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