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CMV: Transgenderism is a mental illness.
I understand that I'll probably get a lot of hate for posting this but this has been going back and forth on my mind for a while now. I study biochem in college and I am looking to go into pharmaceutics, this has made me take extensive classes in psychology, neurology, and ana... | As a trans person, I can say that you're right about it being a mental disorder. However, the best treatment for it is allowing us to transition to the opposite gender. Also, the cause is unknown.
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Holy smokes.
Could you please give me some insight on this?
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I'll bite.
Prior to 10 years old I was a mostly ... | > I am for gay rights and I do not have a phobia of trans people.
So, do you believe that homosexuality is **not** a mental illness? Couldn't you make a similar argument that "people's brain chemistry is out of homeostasis leading certain individuals to create a false image of self within their consciousness" because... | 5z73z2 | CMV: Transgenderism is a mental illness. | I understand that I'll probably get a lot of hate for posting this but this has been going back and forth on my mind for a while now. I study biochem in college and I am looking to go into pharmaceutics, this has made me take extensive classes in psychology, neurology, and anatomy. From what I've learned it seems to m... | BlazedLarry | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The alleged double standard "black pride is okay and white pride is not" is not a double standard/
No one is offended by white people celebrating their heritage. (And of course I don't literally mean no one because some people are offended by anything. But basically no one.) There are Celtic pride celebrations, G... | *Black people on the other hand had their exact country of origin and most traditions lost (or forced out of them) in the slavery era. Therefore "black culture" became a viable culture as they bonded together over their shared hardship.*
There's two problems with this argument.
1: You're assuming every black person ... | I don't totally disagree with your view, but there is more to consider.
In the US, most white people are 3rd, 4th or more generation American. They have little to no cultural ties to their Celtic, Greek or Armenian ancestry. They don't speak the language, don't know the fashion and the only knowledge of the norms and ... | dvgqdk | CMV: The alleged double standard "black pride is okay and white pride is not" is not a double standard/ | No one is offended by white people celebrating their heritage. (And of course I don't literally mean no one because some people are offended by anything. But basically no one.) There are Celtic pride celebrations, Greek festivals, Armenian festivals, the list goes on. Anyone is free to show pride in their heritage. It ... | Sgt_Spatula | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The alleged double standard "black pride is okay and white pride is not" is not a double standard/
No one is offended by white people celebrating their heritage. (And of course I don't literally mean no one because some people are offended by anything. But basically no one.) There are Celtic pride celebrations, G... | Your argument to paraphrase literally states that if you are white celebrating ethnicity is okay but not anything else while blacks (specifically those who descended from slaves) should celebrate race and can't celebrate ethnicity...also screw everyone who doesn't fit into one of these two boxes.
>Black people on th... | No german heritage day though. Wonder why....
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Well there is Oktoberfest, I think that qualifies. I am fine with German pride. To me Germany was taken over by Nazis, as was Poland. I am fine with Polish pride (I am part Polish) and I am fine with German pride.
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No, that really doesn't qualify. Germany =/= one... | dvgqdk | CMV: The alleged double standard "black pride is okay and white pride is not" is not a double standard/ | No one is offended by white people celebrating their heritage. (And of course I don't literally mean no one because some people are offended by anything. But basically no one.) There are Celtic pride celebrations, Greek festivals, Armenian festivals, the list goes on. Anyone is free to show pride in their heritage. It ... | Sgt_Spatula | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Using social workers instead of police is a down right stupid approach
The two situations where I hear the call to use social workers, more than anything else, is with domestic disputes and with people who are off their meds. These are literally some of the most violent situations with law enforcement. I have nev... | You are specifically pigeon holing every domestic dispute in to a violent domestic abuser. The vast majority are not violent.
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I was Navy EOD. Multiple of my friends became cops or police dispatchers. That is what it means. Hell, when I google it
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=domestic+dispute
It literally gets me domest... | You should consider the possibility that these cases become violent in part because aggressive, poorly-trained people with guns show up and cause it to escalate, where someone with actual training in how to deal with people in difficult situations or with certain kinds of impairments, like a social worker, would *actua... | mr4p1b | CMV: Using social workers instead of police is a down right stupid approach | The two situations where I hear the call to use social workers, more than anything else, is with domestic disputes and with people who are off their meds. These are literally some of the most violent situations with law enforcement. I have never seen someone defend this idea who actually thought about it for more than ... | Technical-Ratio-2530 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The fact that one does not have children should not be used as an argument you are incapable of relating to the stresses associated with familial obligations of that nature.
This is a sentiment I've experienced a lot as a young single male. While I do concede the point that I cannot relate to the daily struggles ... | If you are a citizen of country A you get a vote for public office.
If you are not a citizen of country A. Then why would you get a vote?
You have kids you get a say.
You don't have kids, you don't get a say.
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The problem I'm running into with this mentality is that it completely discounts my role in situations t... | There’s a difference between intellectually understanding a concept and actually empathizing with experience.
Think about it like this. You can fully recognize the plight of black people in America with their history of slavery, Jim Crow, lynchjngs, red-lining, police brutality, etc. But if YOU have experienced none ... | 161unp6 | CMV: The fact that one does not have children should not be used as an argument you are incapable of relating to the stresses associated with familial obligations of that nature. | This is a sentiment I've experienced a lot as a young single male. While I do concede the point that I cannot relate to the daily struggles and stresses of having children, in my experience, close familial ties of a similar nature are more than sufficient to relate to the fierce emotions involved with a connection of t... | ViolentThespian | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder
This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
He/she blindly went along with whatever was bein... | >6) GD is a socially accepted delusion. A delusion is "an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder." Reality: You are a male body. Delusion: You are a female. You feel great stress and discomfort because you ident... | I am not really sure what kind of view you want to get changed here. If something is a mental disorder is purely a question of definition.
Gender dysphoria is defined in the [DSM-5](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria).
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My post was inspired recently when I read that the WHO had taken Gender Identity ... | dvqix7 | CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder | This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
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CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder
This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
He/she blindly went along with whatever was bein... | Your definitions are like 80% correct but I think there’s still a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes a disorder. There’s still an underlying assumption here about “reality” and function vs dysfunction.
I’m going to copy and paste what I usually reply to this topic with because even though you’re like 80... | >6) GD is a socially accepted delusion. A delusion is "an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder." Reality: You are a male body. Delusion: You are a female. You feel great stress and discomfort because you ident... | dvqix7 | CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder | This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
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CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder
This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
He/she blindly went along with whatever was bein... | Your definitions are like 80% correct but I think there’s still a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes a disorder. There’s still an underlying assumption here about “reality” and function vs dysfunction.
I’m going to copy and paste what I usually reply to this topic with because even though you’re like 80... | >6) GD is a socially accepted delusion. A delusion is "an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder." Reality: You are a male body. Delusion: You are a female. You feel great stress and discomfort because you ident... | dvqix7 | CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder | This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
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CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder
This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
He/she blindly went along with whatever was bein... | Your definitions are like 80% correct but I think there’s still a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes a disorder. There’s still an underlying assumption here about “reality” and function vs dysfunction.
I’m going to copy and paste what I usually reply to this topic with because even though you’re like 80... | I am not really sure what kind of view you want to get changed here. If something is a mental disorder is purely a question of definition.
Gender dysphoria is defined in the [DSM-5](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria).
---
My post was inspired recently when I read that the WHO had taken Gender Identity ... | dvqix7 | CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder | This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
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CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder
This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
He/she blindly went along with whatever was bein... | Your definitions are like 80% correct but I think there’s still a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes a disorder. There’s still an underlying assumption here about “reality” and function vs dysfunction.
I’m going to copy and paste what I usually reply to this topic with because even though you’re like 80... | >6) GD is a socially accepted delusion. A delusion is "an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder." Reality: You are a male body. Delusion: You are a female. You feel great stress and discomfort because you ident... | dvqix7 | CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder | This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
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CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder
This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
He/she blindly went along with whatever was bein... | Your definitions are like 80% correct but I think there’s still a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes a disorder. There’s still an underlying assumption here about “reality” and function vs dysfunction.
I’m going to copy and paste what I usually reply to this topic with because even though you’re like 80... | >6) GD is a socially accepted delusion. A delusion is "an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder." Reality: You are a male body. Delusion: You are a female. You feel great stress and discomfort because you ident... | dvqix7 | CMV: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder | This topic has already been discussed in this sub [once before](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/cm0jkt), but I was left severely dissatisfied with this thread. OP barely reviewed or discussed the counterclaims presented.
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CMV: With the current arguments in favour of trans rights, transracial rights should also be included.
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Transgenderism is a medically defined condition, likely caused by genetics, which causes gender dysphoria which can be medically trea... | Gender and race are both social constructs, but that doesn't mean that they are social constructs in the same way. I think that is where the argument falls down and the comparison can not be made effectively.
Race, as we know it today, was invented and built on by white people to enforce that hierarchy and justify thi... | 161pz67 | CMV: With the current arguments in favour of trans rights, transracial rights should also be included. | Body dysphoria experienced by transgender individuals, resulting in anxiety, depression and in some cases suicide stems from being stuck in a body they know is not truly theirs. Affirming the gender they identify as by means of changes of gender expression, hormone therapy or surgery is a means of reclaiming one’s body... | VesperBibs | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Vaccinations for diseases which are eradicated but not completely extinct should still be mandatory.
This is not a question of whether or not we have the right to make a pathogen completely extinct.
So far, [two diseases have been successfully eradicated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradication_of_infectious_d... | You see vaccination side effects are justifiable because the common good outweighs the risks of the vaccine. In a situation like you are describing, there is such an infinitesimally low chance of getting small pox, that the side effects are worse and actually do more damage than the disease they are preventing, which i... | 1. There are risks associated with all vaccinations. Although it seems clear that in many cases these risks are far outweighed by the benefits (at the very least on a societal level, but also very often on an individual level), it is not obvious to me that they are outweighed by the benefits that you have described.
2.... | dikkqx | CMV: Vaccinations for diseases which are eradicated but not completely extinct should still be mandatory. | This is not a question of whether or not we have the right to make a pathogen completely extinct.
So far, [two diseases have been successfully eradicated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradication_of_infectious_diseases)—one specifically affecting [humans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human) ([smallpox](https://en.wi... | Real_Carl_Ramirez | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: There is no good reason for open carrying a handgun other than to let people know you have a firearm.
I am at my girlfriends house for thanksgiving and the conversation turned to the characters we’re going to see at Thanksgiving lunch tomorrow. They were talking about a family member who carries his handgun on h... | Guns work two ways. You can shoot it or you can show it.
I'd prefer to know that I shouldn't mess with someone than to find out the hard way.
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Yeah that’s what I’m saying. The ONLY reason to open carry is so people know you have a gun.
Furthermore I don’t even think this is valid. I don’t feel like I NEED a ... | Some people wear their cell phones on their belts even though they have pockets. Some people prefer messenger bags over briefcases and vice-versa. Some people like to wear fanny packs. You can interpret all these of these as fashion choices, but you could also say that it comes down to what the individual finds most co... | 7ewkh2 | CMV: There is no good reason for open carrying a handgun other than to let people know you have a firearm. |
I am at my girlfriends house for thanksgiving and the conversation turned to the characters we’re going to see at Thanksgiving lunch tomorrow. They were talking about a family member who carries his handgun on his hip, and it occurred to me that there is no legitimate reason that I can think of to open carry a handgun... | neonflex | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: The idea that Greek Life is paying for friends makes no sense
Around this time of year the phrase you will be hearing a lot on college campuses is "Greek life is paying for friends." Regardless of your view on frats and sororities, that cliche makes zero sense. Paying for friends would imply that they are only yo... | >If you don't become friends with a good amount of brothers, or your own pledge class, you don't get a bid. Doesn't matter if you would pay dues.
If you DO become friends with a good amount of them and decide not the join the fraternity, do those friendships persist? If they don't, it would seem the dues do matter.
-... | It really doesn't make sense. It's also completely true.
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Why do you think it is completely true?
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What else do you join for? Do you get discounts at stores or a product in return?
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For events, socials, formals, and a house to live in and hangout at.
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Aka making friends right? | 161l4g9 | cmv: The idea that Greek Life is paying for friends makes no sense | Around this time of year the phrase you will be hearing a lot on college campuses is "Greek life is paying for friends." Regardless of your view on frats and sororities, that cliche makes zero sense. Paying for friends would imply that they are only your friends because you are paying them or someone else to be, but th... | queenbeez66 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The fact that the Sonic design was changed sets a bad precedent.
I've seen a lot of people be happy about the Sonic character design been changed after so many complaints. And although I agree the current design is better I feel that art is not always good due to popular consensus, this seems like the peak of fan... | How many people would have watched the film if it had stayed that ugly mess? They made profit off of the decision to fix the model, and a whole lot of respect from the consumers for a project that would otherwise followed the tradition of awful films attempting to piggyback on another media franchise, adding in a big n... | Why is this the thing that is setting a bad precedent, and not, say, I Am Legend getting the book-accurate ending replaced with a shit one because test audiances didn't like it, or any of the other five million changes made to make more money?
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This only reinforces my argument, I think that this being so big and k... | dvks69 | CMV: The fact that the Sonic design was changed sets a bad precedent. | I've seen a lot of people be happy about the Sonic character design been changed after so many complaints. And although I agree the current design is better I feel that art is not always good due to popular consensus, this seems like the peak of fanboy culture, in which fans on the internet will dictate changes and stu... | flaiman | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I am more scared at left-wing violence than right-wing
Before anyone wonders: I despise both sides of the spectrum and if I was American I would vote third party.
I am aware that, so far, there have been way more incidents of right-wing terrorism in the US than left-wing, but I fear it might change soon.
Ȁ... | Are you really trying look at this objectively or is your soul purpose to argue in hopes of changing someone *else's* mind?
The [Center for Strategic and International Studies](https://www.csis.org/people/seth-g-jones) put together a database of 900 politically motivated atacks since 1994.
Since 2010 , they found th... | this is nothing new. the conservative right has been and will continue to do just as much dumb, malicious, illegal, immoral, and counterproductive shit as the left does. opportunists will always take an opportunity when they see one because they aren't in it for the politics. the protests aren't about the looting. ... | il1ezj | CMV: I am more scared at left-wing violence than right-wing | Before anyone wonders: I despise both sides of the spectrum and if I was American I would vote third party.
I am aware that, so far, there have been way more incidents of right-wing terrorism in the US than left-wing, but I fear it might change soon.
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I think it is naive to claim looters and rioters are mere... | Authwarth | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Any science that suggests one group of humans are superior in some way to another group of humans should be automatically and dogmatically discarded
Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is... | >the notion that people under 25 have underdeveloped brains
I don't think it's "under developed" so much as "not fully developed." The majority of 22 year olds are about as developed as they should be, but are not done.
Or, at what age would you say it's okay to say a person has an under developed or still developing... | What's the utilitarian benefit of suppressing truth because it makes you feel uncomfortable?
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Because that truth doesn't make me uncomfortable, it has historically been used to hurt, kill, and even commit genocide. Nazis, for example, acted in the name of similar "science."
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Nazis acted in the name of *pseudo... | 129em92 | CMV: Any science that suggests one group of humans are superior in some way to another group of humans should be automatically and dogmatically discarded | Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is responsible for some death and suffering, it has stopped far more deaths and suffering than it has caused, and furthermore, while not perfect, science is ... | Conkers-Good-Furday | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Any science that suggests one group of humans are superior in some way to another group of humans should be automatically and dogmatically discarded
Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is... | In *some* way? Like, *any* way?
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So just don't repeat history? Hitl... | 129em92 | CMV: Any science that suggests one group of humans are superior in some way to another group of humans should be automatically and dogmatically discarded | Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is responsible for some death and suffering, it has stopped far more deaths and suffering than it has caused, and furthermore, while not perfect, science is ... | Conkers-Good-Furday | 3 | 3 | [
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Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is... | What's the utilitarian benefit of suppressing truth because it makes you feel uncomfortable?
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Because that truth doesn't make me uncomfortable, it has historically been used to hurt, kill, and even commit genocide. Nazis, for example, acted in the name of similar "science."
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CMV: Any science that suggests one group of humans are superior in some way to another group of humans should be automatically and dogmatically discarded
Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is... | [Here's a paper](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22634972/#:~:text=Several%20factors%20have%20been%20proposed,hemoglobin%20and%20hematocrit%2C%20(4\)) that discusses the superiority of Ethiopian and Kenyan long distance runners, why should this be discarded?
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Nazis acted in the name of *pseudo... | 129em92 | CMV: Any science that suggests one group of humans are superior in some way to another group of humans should be automatically and dogmatically discarded | Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is responsible for some death and suffering, it has stopped far more deaths and suffering than it has caused, and furthermore, while not perfect, science is ... | Conkers-Good-Furday | 7 | 7 | [
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Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is... | >This view comes from a deeply utilitarian perspective, and I am less interested in the truth of any of the examples provided, and more interested in whether acknowledging supposed scientific truths is a benefit to society or not.
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Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is... | In *some* way? Like, *any* way?
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Because that truth doesn't make me uncomfortable, it has historically been used to hurt, kill, and even commit genocide. Nazis, for example, acted in the name of similar "science."
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Many critics of science often point to race science and eugenics as reasons that science shouldn't be trusted, but scientists counter by saying that while science is... | >This view comes from a deeply utilitarian perspective, and I am less interested in the truth of any of the examples provided, and more interested in whether acknowledging supposed scientific truths is a benefit to society or not.
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CMV: It is contradictory to be both a Libertarian and not vegan.
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Would you consider the doctrine of free will to mea... | Would you stop eating plants if they had a form of consciousness?
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Actually, if you're taking the pure libertarian view, you're still hypothetically violating the NAP by taking from them. It's a violation of their body autonomy, or at the very least it's theft. Starving is the moral imperative by ... | 7eurbj | CMV: It is contradictory to be both a Libertarian and not vegan. | A libertarian is a person who believes in the doctrine of free will (or typically something very similar). By enslaving/killing animals for their meat/dairy/eggs/etc, you restrict an animal from their ability to choose between different possible courses of action unimpeded (i.e. their free will). CMV.
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CMV: It is contradictory to be both a Libertarian and not vegan.
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Actually, if you're taking the pure libertarian view, you're still hypothetically violating the NAP by taking from them. It's a violation of their body autonomy, or at the very least it's theft. Starving is the moral imperative by ... | Nothing about being Libertarian gives animals the rights of humans, nor considers them fully sapient/sentient beings. They are distinctly separate and lesser than humans are. Doctrine's of free will cannot apply to animals.
Additionally being Libertarian is about personal freedom so dictating what someone's diet shou... | 7eurbj | CMV: It is contradictory to be both a Libertarian and not vegan. | A libertarian is a person who believes in the doctrine of free will (or typically something very similar). By enslaving/killing animals for their meat/dairy/eggs/etc, you restrict an animal from their ability to choose between different possible courses of action unimpeded (i.e. their free will). CMV.
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CMV: net neutrality is trying to force companies into using their own property in a way they don't want to.
I'm all for freedom and stuff, it's great.
I also like rights. Like rights of ownership.
I keep thinking about this question:
Is net neutrality attempting to impose rules that limit what companies can do wit... | The same is true for all of your other utilities. They are owned by private companies (most of the time) but regulated for the good of society because they tend to be monopolies and are vitally important for the functioning of society. The Internet has become a vital utility in society and should be treated as such for... | First of all, most if not all of the technology was developed on the public dime. The precursor to the internet was arpanet which was funded by DARPA. So the intellectual property largely belongs to the public.
Secondly, there is a problem when laying cable that you often can't feasibly build the network without the g... | 7eun1g | CMV: net neutrality is trying to force companies into using their own property in a way they don't want to. | I'm all for freedom and stuff, it's great.
I also like rights. Like rights of ownership.
I keep thinking about this question:
Is net neutrality attempting to impose rules that limit what companies can do with their own property?
If I build something, then someone else builds onto it and all of a sudden everyone li... | SchruteAsaurusRex | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Google Maps Calorie Counter was a great idea and people complaining are being ridiculous.
Google pulled their their calorie tracker after facing backlash from the public. A lot of people calling foul and wanting heads.
Verge article: https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/17/16487622/google-maps-remove-mini-cupcake-c... | Specifically looking at it being a good idea: calorie counts for exercise are dependent on things like height, stride length, gender, and weight. Google's one-size-fits-all number will not work for a 5'3" 130lb woman and a 5'10" 180lb man at the same time. False information is worse than no information because it gives... | Uh... who is complaining? Honestly, I haven't seen anything. Public shaming is one of the most effective forms of persuasion.
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If you read the article, it goes into it a little bit. Apparently there was enough "outrage" that Google removed the feature.
I'd disagree with the OP a little bit and say that Google wa... | 776hg1 | CMV: Google Maps Calorie Counter was a great idea and people complaining are being ridiculous. | Google pulled their their calorie tracker after facing backlash from the public. A lot of people calling foul and wanting heads.
Verge article: https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/17/16487622/google-maps-remove-mini-cupcake-calorie-counter-ios-apps
I am off the belief that it’s not that big of a deal. They say (no proo... | binaryplayground | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The minimum wage is plenty enough
In the US, there are plenty people talking about the minimum wage. I see it in the news everyday. Some people think that the minimum wage should go up to US$15 an hour. Some think that it should stay the same at US$7.25.
My personal opinion is that the minimum wage is plenty eno... | $7.25 an hour is not enough money to sustain a basic existence working a 40 hour week. Where I live, a bare-bones Studio apartment is $1600 a month. Before taxes, making the Federal minimum wage you only take in $1,160... BEFORE taxes. See the problem?
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I understand your point, but you are assuming people work onl... | Do you make the minimum wage in HK?
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No, but no one complains about it much.
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I used to travel there frequently and my friends in Kowloon tell me basically the opposite of what you’ve said.
Wealth inequality is a huge topic in HK and I’ve read multiple articles to the contrary like this: https://www.google.... | ln4eh1 | CMV: The minimum wage is plenty enough | In the US, there are plenty people talking about the minimum wage. I see it in the news everyday. Some people think that the minimum wage should go up to US$15 an hour. Some think that it should stay the same at US$7.25.
My personal opinion is that the minimum wage is plenty enough. If you look at other countries arou... | Hoi4memes | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The minimum wage is plenty enough
In the US, there are plenty people talking about the minimum wage. I see it in the news everyday. Some people think that the minimum wage should go up to US$15 an hour. Some think that it should stay the same at US$7.25.
My personal opinion is that the minimum wage is plenty eno... | $7.25 an hour is not enough money to sustain a basic existence working a 40 hour week. Where I live, a bare-bones Studio apartment is $1600 a month. Before taxes, making the Federal minimum wage you only take in $1,160... BEFORE taxes. See the problem?
---
I understand your point, but you are assuming people work onl... | The cost of living has drastically risen while the minimum wage has not, people can not survive off $7.25hr. The whole principle behind minimum wage is a living wage.. “no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By “business” I mean... | ln4eh1 | CMV: The minimum wage is plenty enough | In the US, there are plenty people talking about the minimum wage. I see it in the news everyday. Some people think that the minimum wage should go up to US$15 an hour. Some think that it should stay the same at US$7.25.
My personal opinion is that the minimum wage is plenty enough. If you look at other countries arou... | Hoi4memes | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Death penalty should be an option
Let’s assume that the death penalty is for those who are sentenced for “life imprisonment”. In order to sustain someone’s sentence for such an imprisonment, taxpayers money is used when this same funds could have been used to help someone else have a better life in terms of educa... | In very simple terms, my objection to death penalty is this
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_exonerated\_death\_row\_inmates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates)
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/28/death-penalty-study-4-percent-defendants-innocent](https://www.thegua... | The death penalty is an option in some states though
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Sorry, i’m not an American, but i feel that the death penalty should be a universal choice for everyone
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ah gotcha. i thought about that after I sent the comment. So question, in your hypothetical, who makes the choice? the one being sentenced or the judge... | k4oitw | CMV: Death penalty should be an option | Let’s assume that the death penalty is for those who are sentenced for “life imprisonment”. In order to sustain someone’s sentence for such an imprisonment, taxpayers money is used when this same funds could have been used to help someone else have a better life in terms of education or healthcare.
In a sense, the de... | rj92315 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Romantic relationships aren't worth it and most people should stay single
First off, I'm not heartbroken and I'm not an incel. I don't think 'women' or 'men' are the problem, but romantic relationships themselves are.
I've recently come across [this article](https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/living-singl... | "worth it" is subjective. You don't have access to the contents of other's minds enough to determine what is worth it for others.
For some people, watches are worth in excess of millions of dollars. For others, they wouldn't take a watch from a bucket if it were free.
Relationships are 100% worth it for me. I thr... | Saying you shouldn't be in relationships because they won't make you happy forever is like saying you shouldn't go on holiday because you'll eventually have to go back to work.
Happiness is fleeting and we should look to get it wherever we can.
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Holidays are supposed to be fleeting while relationships aren't. Hol... | dvh76l | CMV: Romantic relationships aren't worth it and most people should stay single | First off, I'm not heartbroken and I'm not an incel. I don't think 'women' or 'men' are the problem, but romantic relationships themselves are.
I've recently come across [this article](https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/living-single/201303/marriage-and-happiness-18-long-term-studies). This psychologist analyze... | hnnsSI | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: tasers that look or feel like guns should be banned.
I was in the firearms industry in the late 80's when tasers were just starting to morph into what they are today.
Original taser:
https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?id=NMAH-AHB2015q109328&max=1000
A modern taser:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gar... | I'm not totally sure that I disagree with you but here is my argument:
The shape that tasers have evolved into is because it is the most intuitive and ergonomic way to hold a device designed to shoot a projectile. Tasers are effective to around 20 feet if I remember correctly.
Changing the shape could arguably make... | Tasers are used about [328,500](https://www.vocativ.com/197340/law-enforcement-agencies-use-tasers-over-300000-times-a-year/index.html) times per year by law enforcement.
Wikipedia says the UK has used them regularly since 2003 (nothing on the US but let's assume it's similar). That means tasers have been used ~5.75 m... | mqvkke | CMV: tasers that look or feel like guns should be banned. | I was in the firearms industry in the late 80's when tasers were just starting to morph into what they are today.
Original taser:
https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?id=NMAH-AHB2015q109328&max=1000
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CMV: America is irreconcilably divided and cannot be repaired. At this point it should split into multiple smaller countries.
Conservatives are so out of touch with reality and have made hating the left such a core part of their identity that it is impossible for this country to ever reconcile. Conservatives have hate... | Impossible to divide this country geographically.
Block by block in this country there are diehard maga and crunchy liberals and everything in between.
There are more Trump voters in California than in all of the plain states combined.
And there are democrats in Texas than voters in Massachusetts.
We are stuc... | But nothing you said has anything to do with dividing into multiple countries. It obviously can't be done and won't help.
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This was caused by reconstruction being essentially abandoned. The confederacy never stopped being the fucking worst, I say just let those assholes finally split off into their own nightmare c... | 1imm80m | CMV: America is irreconcilably divided and cannot be repaired. At this point it should split into multiple smaller countries. | Conservatives are so out of touch with reality and have made hating the left such a core part of their identity that it is impossible for this country to ever reconcile. Conservatives have hated liberals for decades, and Trump made liberals finally truly hate them in response.
The main thing that we gained from sta... | No_Lie_Bi_Bi_Bi | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Agreeing to disagree when you share vastly differing opinions on socio-political issues is nonsensical.
Let me paint a picture: Let's say I'm a white supremacist that believes any non-white people should be below white people and let's say that you are for equality. We talk to each other and find out our worldvie... | > Let's say you have 5 friends excluding me. Now, 4 of those 5 still vehemently disagree with me, but 1 of them starts to listen to me
in my experience, in social situations, the minority are far more likely to slowly shift their views than those in the majority.
I think in less social situations, the opposite is tr... | >Let me paint a picture: Let's say I'm a white supremacist that believes any non-white people should be below white people and let's say that you are for equality. We talk to each other and find out our worldviews are incompatible, but you offer, "Agree to disagree," and in turn I accept this. Now you bring me around y... | 128v41l | CMV: Agreeing to disagree when you share vastly differing opinions on socio-political issues is nonsensical. | Let me paint a picture: Let's say I'm a white supremacist that believes any non-white people should be below white people and let's say that you are for equality. We talk to each other and find out our worldviews are incompatible, but you offer, "Agree to disagree," and in turn I accept this. Now you bring me around yo... | cantfindonions | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Donald Trump will be the last Republican President.
I think there is a good chance that Donald Trump will be the last Republican President of the United States.
There are 5 main reasons why I think this:
**Demographics**: The Democrats’ base is growing, while the Republicans’ base is shrinking. The Democratic b... | > Joe Biden is a 78 year old man with clear signs of cognitive decline and a questionable past when it comes to race relations, behavior around girls/women, and many controversial policies he has supported over the years.
This is especially strange to me. When you compare Joe Biden to Trump, would you say Biden or T... | [removed]
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There are 5 main reasons why I think this:
**Demographics**: The Democrats’ base is growing, while the Republicans’ base is shrinking. The Democratic base is mostly liberal whites and non-whites. The Republica... | amonrane | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Donald Trump will be the last Republican President.
I think there is a good chance that Donald Trump will be the last Republican President of the United States.
There are 5 main reasons why I think this:
**Demographics**: The Democrats’ base is growing, while the Republicans’ base is shrinking. The Democratic b... | The republican party might change it's rhetoric and values but won't go away. The values of a political parties are not some fixed constant but something that evolves along with the people elected to represent that party. In fact, if you look at history, on a lot of issues the republicans and democrats have swapped pos... | Basically the reason why the Black, Hispanic and Asian population won't vote Republican is simply because the Republicans are so bad at connecting with them. Their so dependent on a certain class of voters that it makes both messaging and internal communication difficult.
As soon as the Republican are in Danger they'l... | mqzuki | CMV: Donald Trump will be the last Republican President. | I think there is a good chance that Donald Trump will be the last Republican President of the United States.
There are 5 main reasons why I think this:
**Demographics**: The Democrats’ base is growing, while the Republicans’ base is shrinking. The Democratic base is mostly liberal whites and non-whites. The Republica... | amonrane | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: controversial groups like Antifa and BLM should be responsible for their own bad apples
Starting off by stating that I agree with the end goals of Antifa and BLM. We need more peace, love and tolerance.
However, and for the same reasons these groups exist, there should be an active effort by the groups towards s... | The vast vast majority of protestors are peaceful. The people being violent aren't true members of this organization. In fact, many of them have been shown to be anti BLM, using destruction and violence as a way to undermine the entire organization. BLM has enough on it's plate without also having to deal with clowns w... | Christian and Catholic Churches are often controversial. Should the moderate Christians at your local church be held accountable for westboro Baptist church’s insanity?
The police are also controversial at the moment. Should all good cops be held equally accountable for their bad apples?
Politics are inherently ... | ikvaxr | CMV: controversial groups like Antifa and BLM should be responsible for their own bad apples | Starting off by stating that I agree with the end goals of Antifa and BLM. We need more peace, love and tolerance.
However, and for the same reasons these groups exist, there should be an active effort by the groups towards stopping the violent few from getting away with these types of behaviours.
This should be the ... | rodsn | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Bush was complicit in the 9/11 attacks.
[it is widely known that the Bush administration](https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/53-4._exhibit_54_-_november_2015_panetta_statement_12.1.15.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com) was aware that an attack was coming, it was coming from Al Qaeda, it was going to... | I go up to you and tell you that Fred, John, Billy, Matthew, and Steve might be planning something bad to do to you. The next week. I tell you Vanessa, Alex, Stacy, Tiffany, Carolyn, and Rita also might be planning to do something bad to you.
This goes on week after week after week after week, and then a few months la... | Being wildly incompetent is not the same as being complicit. The Bush administration was stupid and war mongering.
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CMV: Legitimate far-left and far-right criticism of the Ukraine Crisis is being Dismissed Outright by the Public
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From Aaron Mate to Tucker Carlson, anti-establishment sentiment among both the far-left and far-right parts of the American and other liberal democratic electorates are incentivized to criticize t... | Could you please expand on precisely what valid criticism is being ignored? So far the most I've seen is that America has its own interests(which is true of everyone involved and no one's really denying that) and that people are overly keen to praise Ukraine.
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There's a fair amount. I'm not as familiar with the ri... | > The US has a long history of acting in its own interests at the expense of other nations, and this seems to me to present an obvious question: What does the US benefit from this war?
One country invades another country and the first thing you want to know is what the US's interest is? Why not accept the most obviou... | y7allx | CMV: Legitimate far-left and far-right criticism of the Ukraine Crisis is being Dismissed Outright by the Public | ​
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I agree with this, but I'm saying that the outrage was not sustained, unlike the outrage towards the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This suggests to me an element of media-manufactured outrage.
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In that example, I'm comparing the Taliban to Russia, not the United States to Russia. It'... | y7allx | CMV: Legitimate far-left and far-right criticism of the Ukraine Crisis is being Dismissed Outright by the Public | ​
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CMV: Calling Covid-19 the CCP virus, China virus, etc. is not about the origin of the virus, but rather, an underhanded attempt to be racist towards a country because you don't agree with them.
I hear a lot of people around me constantly referring to Covid-19 as the China virus and CCP virus. One of the most prevelant... | >I hear a lot of people around me constantly referring to Covid-19 as ... CCP virus
> is an attempt to force the blame onto china and Chinese people, not just onto the Chinese leadership.
Is naming the virus after the CCP not directly blaming the Chinese leadership who caused the crisis by censoring data at critical ... | I think it depends on the individual and the name in question - we do name viruses or other diseases after location of origin from time to time: the Spanish Flu, West Nile Virus, Zika, MERS, Ebola, Lyme Disease, Guinea Worm, Norovirus, etc. Calling it the "Wuhan Virus" isn't out of line with convention.
Sure, callin... | hra51t | CMV: Calling Covid-19 the CCP virus, China virus, etc. is not about the origin of the virus, but rather, an underhanded attempt to be racist towards a country because you don't agree with them. | I hear a lot of people around me constantly referring to Covid-19 as the China virus and CCP virus. One of the most prevelant places that it is advertised that way is on a certain right wing news network. I feel that referring to it in this way, instead of as Covid-19, Sars-CoV-2, The coronavirus, etc. is an attempt to... | Chris_8675309 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I’m 14 and hate everyone my age (except for just a few who are like me)
Okay so I am really sick of people my age, the culture, phones, lack of work ethic, assholes, idiots, hypocrites, people my age who aren’t independent (followers), technology, weed, how everyone smokes it now and are lazy, how it’s so sociall... | I'm not entirely sure which view you want to have changed.
Have you considered that you may have an overly kind opinion of children in the 80s? I am a child of the that decade, and many of them were as vain, lazy, and materialistic as you describe. Instead of phones it was television, action figures, and arcades, the ... | There are a lot of 14 year olds who arent' like what you described. You just don't know it. In terms of work ethic and not being lazy:
https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=14%20year%20old%20admitted%20to%20college
Lots of 14 year olds in the world don't have cell phones. They live in poorer parts of the world.... | 773944 | CMV: I’m 14 and hate everyone my age (except for just a few who are like me) | Okay so I am really sick of people my age, the culture, phones, lack of work ethic, assholes, idiots, hypocrites, people my age who aren’t independent (followers), technology, weed, how everyone smokes it now and are lazy, how it’s so socially accepted now, everything in general.
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CMV: Within the Star Wars universe, all those that sided with evil organizations and/or the Dark Side of the Force shouldn't be given allowance to live.
Within the Star Wars universe, all those that sided with evil organizations and/or the Dark Side of the Force shouldn't be given allowance to live.
Reva, the third s... | Damn if this is how you feel about Star Wars people how do you feel about real people? What’s the bare minimum someone could do to lose their right to life? I know it’s crazy, but in general I belief rapists/murderers deserve to live even though their actions are abhorrent. People should be allowed the chance to change... | I have to ask you 2 questions?
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2. If we're talking a universe that actually has an all-permeating and unifying force wha do you think your plan will do to it?
So in the first question you're talking about billions of people. Let me ask you; if... | vj6oph | CMV: Within the Star Wars universe, all those that sided with evil organizations and/or the Dark Side of the Force shouldn't be given allowance to live. | Within the Star Wars universe, all those that sided with evil organizations and/or the Dark Side of the Force shouldn't be given allowance to live.
Reva, the third sister, Vader himself, many Empire defectors who try to live a life disguised after what they've done. Murdering, killing, stealing, separating families, c... | matthewbrazilian | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: The Nick Cannon controversy has actually proven that it IS acceptable to publicly have bigoted racial views, as long as they're about white people
I feel the need to start this post with some background about myself to hopefully answer some immediate criticisms I might get for even asking this kind of question:
... | https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/nick-cannon-transcript-fired-by-viacomcbs-for-perpetuating-anti-semitism
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Ahh.. I assumed if one fired him they both did. Point stands. There were still consequences for his actions. | hsawm5 | CMV: The Nick Cannon controversy has actually proven that it IS acceptable to publicly have bigoted racial views, as long as they're about white people | I feel the need to start this post with some background about myself to hopefully answer some immediate criticisms I might get for even asking this kind of question:
I know that this kind of thing is a right wing, republican, alt-right type talking point, and whether it matters or not, I want to say that I'm none of t... | ambisinister_gecko | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If there is a former president that deserves to be indicted it is not Trump. It is Bush.
What did Trump allegedly do? Hush money to a prostitute. What you do or do not do with a prostitute should be your own business. That should be between you and the hooker if you choose to spend money on that. The key witness ... | When you pay a sex worker with campaign finances, it becomes a crime.
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And then falsify business records to make it look like you didn't pay her off.
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It's a rabbit hole of crimes, I believe I saw something saying it's 26 total crimes committed in the act and attempts to hide his crimes.
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Okay, but is th... | Yes, whatever you get up to with a sex worker is your own business. Until you pay her off illegally.
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>Until you pay her off illegally.
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That's what the trial is for.
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So you don't have any evidence.
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Why would any of us have evidence? The trial is ... | 1288jhe | CMV: If there is a former president that deserves to be indicted it is not Trump. It is Bush. | What did Trump allegedly do? Hush money to a prostitute. What you do or do not do with a prostitute should be your own business. That should be between you and the hooker if you choose to spend money on that. The key witness in their case is a known perjurer so they have a very shaky case to start with.
How does Bush ... | Euphoric-Beat-7206 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Secession should be permitted in democracies, but require a supermajority plebicite.
There are a number of modern secessionist movements in various democracies around the world including Canada, the UK, India, Spain and others.
In some cases the national government has prohibited any form of plebicite (Spain, ... | [deleted]
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Just the area which is voting to secede. I think any area large enough to have a legislature which could petition to secede should be able to do so. But I am only talking about secession at the westphalian nation-state level, so if your small city votes to secede, you are going to have a hard border a... | While i understand where you're coming from, I"m not sure I agree a supermajority is a good criteria for determining whether secession will be allowed. Secession effectively creates an entirely new state, and may be highly undesirable for both regions.
An example of this would be if Texas hypothetically seceded fro... | dvds03 | CMV: Secession should be permitted in democracies, but require a supermajority plebicite. | There are a number of modern secessionist movements in various democracies around the world including Canada, the UK, India, Spain and others.
In some cases the national government has prohibited any form of plebicite (Spain, India), or has imposed various restrictions on holding a plebicite (UK, Canada)
I think in... | huadpe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Insults about someone’s race, gender, or orientation are equally as hurtful and bad if the recipient is white, male, or straight.
I have noticed that a lot of people around me will insult someone based on these superficial stereotypes (“Of course she doesn’t get it, she’s white”, “Only women can multitask, a man ... | There are two definitions of racism: 1) being mean, and 2) the systems that disadvantage people of color. I would not agree that being mean to the people who get an advantage from those systems is "equally bad or hurtful" but I would say they are equally harmful.
Racism (being mean) to whites and tolerating and norm... | Insults are worse when they target things that a person is likely to have received an extensive history of abuse for, when those insults represent the feelings if a significant number of people and when those insults are connected to significant historical discrimination.
When someone says "go back to your neighborhoo... | y79yra | CMV: Insults about someone’s race, gender, or orientation are equally as hurtful and bad if the recipient is white, male, or straight. | I have noticed that a lot of people around me will insult someone based on these superficial stereotypes (“Of course she doesn’t get it, she’s white”, “Only women can multitask, a man couldn’t do that”, “Ugh, straight people make me hate this world”). I see this as just as harmful to society as it would be in the oppos... | totaly_not_a_dolphin | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Science cannot answer questions of morality
Science can only tell us what might happen should certain actions be taken. However, whether that thing is good or bad is a value judgement that is purely subjective. Science may explain why you think something is right/wrong (Sociology, synapses, etc., etc.), but wheth... | Has science ever claimed to be able to answer questions about morality? I know that certain people have but nowhere in the scientific method is it written that it can answer questions about morality. Science is a methodology of gathering knowledge, it is not a thing that gives you answers.
However, you do need knowl... | > However, whether that thing is good or bad is a value judgement that is purely subjective.
It depends on whether you can define what you mean by good and bad. What does it mean for something to be good or bad according to you?
One would first need to define those terms without making it a circular definition. Refer... | diaeag | CMV: Science cannot answer questions of morality | Science can only tell us what might happen should certain actions be taken. However, whether that thing is good or bad is a value judgement that is purely subjective. Science may explain why you think something is right/wrong (Sociology, synapses, etc., etc.), but whether you *should* think that is a step it cannot sol... | EdominoH | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Asperger's Syndrome should not be grouped with Autism
Aspie here; a few years ago Asperger's was classified as part of the Autism Spectrum, and while it makes sense on paper, I feel that it does more harm than good, with the average person not knowing the differences.
Going through public school, I was asked if ... | It sounds like on paper you agree asperger syndrome fits with ASDs already. For psychologists, psychiatrists, and therapists that's all that matters.
So what is the view you want changed?
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The "In practice" part of it. I don't care if my thumb isn't technically a finger, as long as it's treated like a thumb, ins... | I would not argue your experience, if you say that you being treated like you have autism vs Asperger’s has harmed you, I believe you.
What I would say is that a clinician that is specializing in autism should be perfectly qualified to understand and help someone with Asperger’s. Because in the study of autism spectru... | 1287r17 | CMV: Asperger's Syndrome should not be grouped with Autism | Aspie here; a few years ago Asperger's was classified as part of the Autism Spectrum, and while it makes sense on paper, I feel that it does more harm than good, with the average person not knowing the differences.
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Aspie here; a few years ago Asperger's was classified as part of the Autism Spectrum, and while it makes sense on paper, I feel that it does more harm than good, with the average person not knowing the differences.
Going through public school, I was asked if ... | Do you think kids would have treated you better if you said that you have Asperger's syndrome and not autism? Kids are going to be mean to any kid that is atypical. That's a problem with teaching kids better social skills and not to bully, then it is about diagnostic nomenclature.
As you said your own parents know the... | Not many people know the Nazi origins of the Asperger's syndrome term, and it's why I consider it to be inappropriate. (please look it up if you are unaware) Still, I think the Levels (1, 2, 3) under the ASD definition in the current DSM should remain. Not all autistics are the same. Some of us (like me) are more capab... | 1287r17 | CMV: Asperger's Syndrome should not be grouped with Autism | Aspie here; a few years ago Asperger's was classified as part of the Autism Spectrum, and while it makes sense on paper, I feel that it does more harm than good, with the average person not knowing the differences.
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CMV: British Leftists should not have opposed brexit.
I say this not as brit myself but as someone who's been observing the situation from afar.
I have no idea why many left leaning people in britain opposed brexit. The european union goes against many left wing ideals and causes.
1. The European Union is a neolibe... | Do you think the current situation is preferable for leftists?
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This kind of accelerationism has a track record of not working very well.
Or to put it another way: Austerity _also_ made life subs... | Weren’t primary reasons for leaving getting out of EU immigration and regulation? Both of these leftists are generally in favor of. Yes, a primary reason for the European Union existing is for economic reasons, but that is not what brexit is about. As far as I can tell, most British still want those economic ties, all ... | mqvkql | CMV: British Leftists should not have opposed brexit. | I say this not as brit myself but as someone who's been observing the situation from afar.
I have no idea why many left leaning people in britain opposed brexit. The european union goes against many left wing ideals and causes.
1. The European Union is a neoliberal project. The EU was founded to foster market trade ... | Diegreffer33 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Divorce Rates + Never-Married Rates have Climbed because Our Society Disparages Children from Marriage rather than Preparing them for it
Other Factors that I'm Setting Aside:
* It is financially more feasible than it used to be
* It is socially more acceptable than it used to be
My view is that even after you se... | The divorce rate in america is at [_50 year low_](https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/divorceupdated-w640.png).
So...your explanation is to a reality that doesn't exist, which seems like a problem!
Regardless of the facts, isn't it just arbitrary to think that once upon a time marriages were fulfilling and then... | >It is financially more feasible than it used to be * It is socially more acceptable than it used to be
Aren't those two _really_ big things to be set aside?
You are arguing that society is creating a negative impression of marriage (which I honestly don't see) but you can't handwave away the idea that people used to... | y78yij | CMV: Divorce Rates + Never-Married Rates have Climbed because Our Society Disparages Children from Marriage rather than Preparing them for it | Other Factors that I'm Setting Aside:
* It is financially more feasible than it used to be
* It is socially more acceptable than it used to be
My view is that even after you set these variables ( ^ ) aside, rates of never-married + divorced have been climbing for 50+ years far more than makes sense ...
UNLESS you tak... | Mr-Homemaker | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Local, state, federal gov't should NOT issue "vaccine passport" mandates for private businesses.
Lots of hubub about "vaccine passports" these days, but I weirdly find myself agreeing with the crackpots on this one so I wanted to check myself with a CMV post.
What I'm talking about here specifically is the gover... | [deleted]
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>The first issue is that group 2 will become sick and take up space in the health care system, this take away from others who would have ended up in the health care system regardless of Covid. If hospitals are still having issues with capacity it's a very real issue that every covid case takes a bed fro... | Couple of minor points that might help.
Group 1 isn't immune as no vaccine is 100% effective. The point of getting as many people vaccinated as possible is that if someone does get sick, the virus doesn't have much of a chance to spread. The person hopefully gets through the contagious portion of the sickness before e... | mqvcv4 | CMV: Local, state, federal gov't should NOT issue "vaccine passport" mandates for private businesses. | Lots of hubub about "vaccine passports" these days, but I weirdly find myself agreeing with the crackpots on this one so I wanted to check myself with a CMV post.
What I'm talking about here specifically is the government mandating that businesses check or validate patrons' vaccination status, in the same way that gov... | 1msera | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Reddit is the website of cowards, and you can't prove otherwise
Every other website: Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc. requires you to give away some amount of your true identity. What you say and what you believe can actually affect you irl. But with Reddit, people are *totally anonymous*. They can say whatever... | How many do you need? 1 Redditor? 50? 1000? 1,000,000? What are enough data points to make a generalized judgement about a website with 100s of millions of users?
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Specifically, harassed? Or just people who have attached their real names t... | >Every other website: Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc. requires you to give away some amount of your true identity
I counter this with 4-chan and all the spin offs. They require even less identity than reddit does.
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CMV: I also believe the generally accepted answer to the Monty Hall Problem is incorrect
Edit: I was wrong. I've awarded 2 deltas to the people who've helped change my thought process.
Thank you everyone for replying to this thread.
There is a beautiful argument in a previously archived thread; in that there are on... | The host will always reveal a false door, because there will always be at least one false door. That doesn't change anything: You *knew* there is one false door among the two you didn't pick. Maybe two, but at least one. So this is not new information for you. As a result, your odds of having picked the correct door at... | Your odds of picking the car the first time are always 33%. Meaning a 66% chance of it being one of the other two doors.
After you pick your door, they open of the two doors that you didn't pick to reveal the goat. That other unpicked door is still a 66% chance of being a car.
So you are always better of switching.
... | vj3gfl | CMV: I also believe the generally accepted answer to the Monty Hall Problem is incorrect | Edit: I was wrong. I've awarded 2 deltas to the people who've helped change my thought process.
Thank you everyone for replying to this thread.
There is a beautiful argument in a previously archived thread; in that there are only 2 choices, even from the start of the game. NOT 3:[https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyvie... | The-Willing-Carrot | 8 | 8 | [
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CMV: We need to return to secret ballots
I voted last week. When I voted, I walked in with a frail looking older woman. I walked into a curtained booth, read the ballot measures and candidates, and thought about all the money and high payed consultants, and expensive mailing campaigns that were directed at convincing ... | People lie. People can say whatever they want during a campaign. With no accountability, they’re free to do whatever they want once elected, even if it goes strictly against what they said to get elected.
Secret ballots make it even easier for corruption. It gives cover for every single representative to claim they v... | Even with secret ballots, corporate interests would still exist wouldn't they? A politician could, in theory, say they're voting their conscience, take lobbyist money, and then vote however they want with no accountability to anyone. Frankly if I'm lobbying a politician, I won't accept anything less than incontrovertib... | dvc7wq | CMV: We need to return to secret ballots | I voted last week. When I voted, I walked in with a frail looking older woman. I walked into a curtained booth, read the ballot measures and candidates, and thought about all the money and high payed consultants, and expensive mailing campaigns that were directed at convincing me honestly of a choice—and then I thought... | fox-mcleod | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The male loneliness epidemic exists, but we cannot blame anyone for it, and there's not much we can do abuot it
Discussions about the male loneliness epidemic most often go about how incels suck, and how no one wants to be around them or how Andre Tate is bad, but I think this is confusing cause and consequence. ... | The manosphere is anti traditional masculinity disguised by monkey posturing.
It's completely against personal responsibility.
It's a scam. They're just trying to be successful influencers, and they're preying on the exact same crowd that influencers prey on.
So yes, you can blame some people. You can blame the s... | No most of the time men are lonely because its their fault for their actions & beliefs
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Not really, most poor are poor for stuff out of their control, most men are lonely because they act like pos to women, if they didn’t a... | 1kzu6li | CMV: The male loneliness epidemic exists, but we cannot blame anyone for it, and there's not much we can do abuot it | Discussions about the male loneliness epidemic most often go about how incels suck, and how no one wants to be around them or how Andre Tate is bad, but I think this is confusing cause and consequence. Sometimes it goes about what we can do to solve it, which leads to the most basic truisms possible.
A lot of men, ... | LewisCarroll95 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: if someone wants to die so badly we should let them
I think if someone is going through something get them help. But I think that if you save someone from their suicide and then you get them all this help and someone (be in family, or tax payers) and they can move on from the life and heal than great! But if yo... | > **Most people who are suicidal want to end their** ***pain,*** **not their lives.** It's almost never true that death is the only way to end these people's suffering.
>
> ***An unfixable problem doesn't mean that a good life will never be possible***.
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/comments/cz6n... | Who would you trust more?
Someone telling you that killing yourself, just dying, or ending your life is a good idea; in fact should be argued for.
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Someone telling you life is worth living, you can do more good alive than dead, you are worth it, there is hope.
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I think if someone is going through something get them help. But I think that if you save someone from their suicide and then you get them all this help and someone (be in family, or tax payers) and they can move on from the life and heal than great! But if you do all this and spend all the money and they still try t... | lyricreaux | 3 | 3 | [
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I think if someone is going through something get them help. But I think that if you save someone from their suicide and then you get them all this help and someone (be in family, or tax payers) and they can move on from the life and heal than great! But if yo... | How do we tell if someone is in the throes of a depressive episode and catastrophizing their life as opposed to making a lucid decision?
Your stance seems to rely on the assumption that we can reliably tell who wants to live and who wants to die but I don't think it's really that easy. Factor into this that rehab and... | Who would you trust more?
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I think if someone is going through something get them help. But I think that if you save someone from their suicide and then you get them all this help and someone (be in family, or tax payers) and they can move on from the life and heal than great! But if you do all this and spend all the money and they still try t... | lyricreaux | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Most of the anti-police hate on the internet is a result of the anti-police filter bubble.
Many on the internet enjoy pushing and sharing police misconduct. While there seem to bad actors in the department abusing their power, most people I meet seem to base this off of what is pushed to them online rather than t... | Does the data you researched make any attempt to quantify the amount of cover ups and looking the other way that happens?
The online echo chamber doesn't think every cop is a criminal. They think the vast majority of cops don't report bad cops. In a lot of cases the ones that do are ostracized for it.
It's a fratern... | https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/545/748/#tab-opinion-1961907
In 2005, the Supreme Court ruled that the police don't have a legal obligation to protect you.
If they don't, why exactly do you suggest they exist?
I'm of the opinion that cops exist to protect rich people's stuff, but I might just be cynica... | y77uep | CMV: Most of the anti-police hate on the internet is a result of the anti-police filter bubble. | Many on the internet enjoy pushing and sharing police misconduct. While there seem to bad actors in the department abusing their power, most people I meet seem to base this off of what is pushed to them online rather than through statistics.
Reddit consistently expresses hate for all police officers, but I am unable t... | Rahzek | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The government should take away someones child if they are obese
If a child is obese there is no one to blame except the parents (except if the child has some kind of sickness which contributes to their overweight). If the parents are given strict warning about their child's weight and nothing is changed in years... | Some people are just born with a lower metabolism rate than everyone else, so it is also a genetics factor, and some obese people can still work out or have the freedom to choose their own lifestyle. This is also a lot of stress that's being put upon the government, the child, and the parents, and this new field the go... | How would this plan be funded? Where would you find enough willing foster parents located close enough to the original home to allow for parental visits?
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It will be an investment. In the long run it will benefit the government.
There will be very few children who will be taken away from their parents in reality ... | bjc5pi | CMV: The government should take away someones child if they are obese | If a child is obese there is no one to blame except the parents (except if the child has some kind of sickness which contributes to their overweight). If the parents are given strict warning about their child's weight and nothing is changed in years of follow ups, the government should take away that child from their p... | LalaDesse | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: If you think Kyle rittenhouse should be acquitted of any criminal liability, you are acknowledging that the United States has a problem in the defining self-defense, and should be rewritten
I want to preface by saying no one including rittenhouse, his group, the protestors or the people shot are upstanding citiz... | Your bank scenario is not how self defense law works. If you open carry a gun into a bank and a a security guard points a gun at you and tells you to drop your weapon you do not have a reasonable belief that the security guard is attempting to harm you. The reasonable belief would be that the security guard is attemp... | Well i think if someone attacks you unprovoked without giving you the option to retreat, self defense is 100% viable
The very purpose of open carry is to act as a deterrent against violent criminals. Its more logical than concealed carry
The reason weapons in public spaces arent as socially acceptable as they were ba... | qthnrb | CMV: If you think Kyle rittenhouse should be acquitted of any criminal liability, you are acknowledging that the United States has a problem in the defining self-defense, and should be rewritten |
I want to preface by saying no one including rittenhouse, his group, the protestors or the people shot are upstanding citizens; two of them are people that shouldn’t of even been in society in the first place but when it comes to self-defense that’s not really relevant so I don’t wanna hear it in the comments I know t... | back2lumby212 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Trump is correct: The New York Times is one of the biggest enemies of the American people.
There's a very disturbing trend I've been noticing just recently, in the past few months or so. In 2016, I didn't vote for Trump, I believed the media spin that him badmouthing the media was "dangerous to our democracy" and... | These sound like opinion pieces. Do you have links to the articles you mentioned?
Why do you feel being exposed to different political beliefs is evil?
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A disney heiress saying that ceos are overpaid is not communism.
It’s not unique to get paid a wage for work. That’s not some kind of thing unique to America. Why do you think it is?
Also, with the Disney heiress, is it possible that she is saying that those ceos ... | bjcjys | CMV: Trump is correct: The New York Times is one of the biggest enemies of the American people. | There's a very disturbing trend I've been noticing just recently, in the past few months or so. In 2016, I didn't vote for Trump, I believed the media spin that him badmouthing the media was "dangerous to our democracy" and "omg could he shut down the press is he literally Hitler," but I think I might be starting to un... | brokenharis | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Entertainment is way too expensive and as a result, athletes and actors make way too much compared to what they should make
Title says it all. I get that the money has to go somewhere if you don't pay it to the athletes, but it's a symptom of the sports and entertainment industries bringing in way too much money.... | [deleted]
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For major sports, if you really want to see the game and can't afford to go, every sports bar in the area will also be carrying th... | qu25a2 | CMV: Entertainment is way too expensive and as a result, athletes and actors make way too much compared to what they should make | Title says it all. I get that the money has to go somewhere if you don't pay it to the athletes, but it's a symptom of the sports and entertainment industries bringing in way too much money. I can understand them making more than doctors, teachers, etc because of the value they provide (excitement to people's lives, et... | Rice-Is-Nice123 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Televised violent sports with a high rate of injury should be banned or suspended
Sports like boxing, MMA, UFC, etc. obviously have high rates of bodily injury. Injuries sustained in these sports can have long-lasting effects, and studies have shown the concussions sustained by American football players result in... | First of all, except in rare occasions usually involving an athlete with some sort of mental illness nobody is trying to injure an opponent. Athletes can literally have a career-ending and life-altering injury just by jumping and landing without any influence from the opponent. Sport is dangerous. We (athletes) know it... | If we start banning everything that negatively impacts health there will be little left. Banning is not the solution, proper regulation is.
Besides that, there's obviously an audience for these events and I truly believe content that isn't illegal should never be filtered from the media.
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>Banning is not the sol... | qtysmi | CMV: Televised violent sports with a high rate of injury should be banned or suspended | Sports like boxing, MMA, UFC, etc. obviously have high rates of bodily injury. Injuries sustained in these sports can have long-lasting effects, and studies have shown the concussions sustained by American football players result in [chronic brain damage](https://www.center4research.org/football-brain-injuries-need-kno... | hwagoolio | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you are "buried" in student loan debt, you probably chose the wrong career and it shouldn't be on the rest of us to pay your debt through taxes.
If you took on $37k (US Average) of student loan debt to get an english/art/liberal arts degree, you made a mistake, and it's not on us to forgive your debt through h... | There are doctors, lawyers, veterinarians, finance majors, etc. all buried by student loan debt today.
This weird idea people have that college students usually pursue worthless majors is so misconstrued
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I guess I should clarify by "buried" i mean unable to get out from under it. The average physician has a lot... | It's only a mistake because you will become buried in debt. So it stands to reason that if college tuition were subsidized, it wouldn't be a mistake anymore.
And marketability is totally relative. if the jobs given to those with liberal arts degrees paid better, they would *also* not be buried in student loan debt.
... | bj8qqv | CMV: If you are "buried" in student loan debt, you probably chose the wrong career and it shouldn't be on the rest of us to pay your debt through taxes. | If you took on $37k (US Average) of student loan debt to get an english/art/liberal arts degree, you made a mistake, and it's not on us to forgive your debt through higher taxes.
Anecdotally, I don't know anyone who took on debt for a useful degree and wasn't able to easily pay it back. In the past 10 years we hav... | thetieguy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Blaming Trump for Insurrection Day is similar to blaming BLM for riots that shut down cities.
Disclaimers:
1. Riots are bad mmkay.
2. I am staunchly anti-Trump, and his behavior around the riots (especially the calls he and Giuliani made *during the riots* to convince Senators to delay the count) is absolutely d... | >Not how he responded to the switch (which was piss-poor at best). Not whether his words could be interpreted as inciting or encouraging violence (which could be chalked to ignorance or irresponsible verbal expression, both of which Trump has shown in remarkable quantity).
Could you clarify what you *would* accept, th... | >My CMV mostly hinges on evidence that Trump incited the switch from protest to riot, or at the very least encouraged violence specifically. Not how he responded to the switch (which was piss-poor at best). Not whether his words could be interpreted as inciting or encouraging violence
I'm sorry, I'm confused. Are you ... | kvzulx | CMV: Blaming Trump for Insurrection Day is similar to blaming BLM for riots that shut down cities. | Disclaimers:
1. Riots are bad mmkay.
2. I am staunchly anti-Trump, and his behavior around the riots (especially the calls he and Giuliani made *during the riots* to convince Senators to delay the count) is absolutely deplorable. Trump has stoked a lot of fires that finally went out of control on 1/6, and at best he'... | Lukavian | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Blaming Trump for Insurrection Day is similar to blaming BLM for riots that shut down cities.
Disclaimers:
1. Riots are bad mmkay.
2. I am staunchly anti-Trump, and his behavior around the riots (especially the calls he and Giuliani made *during the riots* to convince Senators to delay the count) is absolutely d... | >My CMV mostly hinges on evidence that Trump incited the switch from protest to riot, or at the very least encouraged violence specifically. Not how he responded to the switch (which was piss-poor at best). Not whether his words could be interpreted as inciting or encouraging violence
I'm sorry, I'm confused. Are you ... | >Not how he responded to the switch (which was piss-poor at best). Not whether his words could be interpreted as inciting or encouraging violence (which could be chalked to ignorance or irresponsible verbal expression, both of which Trump has shown in remarkable quantity).
Could you clarify what you *would* accept, th... | kvzulx | CMV: Blaming Trump for Insurrection Day is similar to blaming BLM for riots that shut down cities. | Disclaimers:
1. Riots are bad mmkay.
2. I am staunchly anti-Trump, and his behavior around the riots (especially the calls he and Giuliani made *during the riots* to convince Senators to delay the count) is absolutely deplorable. Trump has stoked a lot of fires that finally went out of control on 1/6, and at best he'... | Lukavian | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Starbucks incident in Pennsylvania was a racist incident and the two African American men were falsely arrested
Two white men would never be told to leave a Starbucks for just hanging out. And then if they stuck around, for sure, cops wouldn't be called. The guys were real estate purchasers or brokers — anyon... | There’s usually 3 stories. The Starbucks side, the two gentlemen’s side, and the truth somewhere in between.
What I’d be curious to know is what is the official Starbucks policy on people being in the shop who are known to not be purchasing anything.
From an employee side, it could’ve been interpreted that these gen... | > I think what would help convince me to CMV is facts that somehow the men did something wrong, or broke a law.
Ultimately, yeah those two men broke the law. They were asked to leave and refused. At that point they were trespassing on private property. That's the long and short of it. The reasons as to why they decid... | 8dlg8p | CMV: The Starbucks incident in Pennsylvania was a racist incident and the two African American men were falsely arrested | Two white men would never be told to leave a Starbucks for just hanging out. And then if they stuck around, for sure, cops wouldn't be called. The guys were real estate purchasers or brokers — anyone could have seen that.
I'm open to changing my view, but I came to this point of view because of Starbucks' CEO's messag... | swifter-every-day | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Min-Maxing has no place in TTRPGs
Players sit around the table for the first time and start crafting their character. While others weave intricate backstories and discuss about history behind the characters, one player is nose deep in rulebooks and is suffering it furiously. When other have created their characte... | [deleted]
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> As far as the planning not making sense?
Think how things work in real life. You train to become powerful wizard. You are goal oriented and driven. But life never goes according to your plans. You might find yourself in job that you haven't planned for or meeting people you didn't suspect. Maybe worl... | Depends totally on the table. You get a full table of wargamers and that behavior is expected and nessicarry, on the other hand you have a story driven table, yes that can be inappropriate. But yea point is there is a place for it. Just maybe not where you are.
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CMV: Min-Maxing has no place in TTRPGs
Players sit around the table for the first time and start crafting their character. While others weave intricate backstories and discuss about history behind the characters, one player is nose deep in rulebooks and is suffering it furiously. When other have created their characte... | Depends totally on the table. You get a full table of wargamers and that behavior is expected and nessicarry, on the other hand you have a story driven table, yes that can be inappropriate. But yea point is there is a place for it. Just maybe not where you are.
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CMV: Joe Biden has very little chance of reelection in 2024.
I believe that, should Joe Biden run for reelection in 2024, he is almost certain to lose.
1. He is quite unpopular. His approval rating is lower than Trump's was during the 2020 election, and the Electoral College has a GOP bias under current coalitions. ... | Biden is the least hated politician in an extremely polarized country. Everyone prefers *their* candidate compared to Biden whether it's Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, etc.. When it's Biden vs. a hypothetical person, Biden isn't popular. But when there is an actual name on the opponent, people prefer Biden.
The same t... | [Prediction markets](https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/6867/Which-party-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election) give Republicans a lead but not a huge one. "Very little chance" seems like a major overstatement.
People *love* writing opinion pieces on topics like this because it's an easy conduit for making... | ur5ski | CMV: Joe Biden has very little chance of reelection in 2024. | I believe that, should Joe Biden run for reelection in 2024, he is almost certain to lose.
1. He is quite unpopular. His approval rating is lower than Trump's was during the 2020 election, and the Electoral College has a GOP bias under current coalitions. The main reason for his unpopularity is because he's seen as n... | LucasWhitefur7822 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: being a conservative is the least Christ-like political view
From what I know, Christ was essentially a radical leftist. He was all about helping and loving the poor, hungry, disabled, outcast. He would feed 10 people just in case one was going hungry. He flipped a table when banks were trying to take advantage o... | I agree with some of your points, but it's not accurate to say that conservatives are "not willing to help people in need". I don't think most conservatives are blanketly against charity, they just don't think charity should be via a taxpayer-funded welfare system, since that can be exploited and wastes money with admi... | Consider: What would Christ do, policy-wise, if he was in charge of the US government?
Would he open the borders to immigration?
Give free money to all poor people?
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> Would he open the borders to immigration?
He'd provide refuge to those who need it.
> Give free money to all poor people?
He'd ensure people... | kvwbxj | CMV: being a conservative is the least Christ-like political view | From what I know, Christ was essentially a radical leftist. He was all about helping and loving the poor, hungry, disabled, outcast. He would feed 10 people just in case one was going hungry. He flipped a table when banks were trying to take advantage of people. He was anti-capitalist and pro social responsibility to s... | dmackl | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: You need dysphoria to be transgender.
First of all, I'd like to preface this by saying that I'm a trans woman myself, albeit pre-transition, and that I have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, although I considered myself trans before I was officially diagnosed. I'm also closeted to most people which is why I'm... | > You need dysphoria to be transgender.
The APA suggests otherwise [in this fact sheet](http://www.apadivisions.org/division-44/resources/advocacy/transgender-children.pdf#factsheet) about gender diversity and transgender identity in children:
>> Transgender children are *more likely* to experience gender dysphoria (... | >I see a lot of people saying stuff like "non-dysphoric trans people are valid!", but I don't understand this position.
I run in a lot of left-wing circles and I've never heard this one uttered. Could you show us an example or two? I just genuinely don't think I have a grasp on the context in which that would need to ... | bj55vg | CMV: You need dysphoria to be transgender. | First of all, I'd like to preface this by saying that I'm a trans woman myself, albeit pre-transition, and that I have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, although I considered myself trans before I was officially diagnosed. I'm also closeted to most people which is why I'm using an alt.
I see a lot of people saying... | throwaway_sakjdgyaso | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: BLM protesters need to be treated like adults and arrested when they break the law
It's extremely condescending to treat minorities like children and not uphold them to the same standards as everyone else.
The most recent example is with Starbucks asking trespassers to leave. Here's some [fake news regarding the... | > Do you think anyone would care if it was a white trespasser at Starbucks?
In similar circumstances I can't imagine the cops being called. They arrived [early](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/starbucks-manager-called-cops-minutes-black-men-arrive-article-1.3942931) for a meeting. If I (a white chick) said I ... | Okay, first of all - the Daily Mail is not remotely unbiased. It's widely known in the UK to be basically Fox News.
Secondly, the two black men who were asked to leave were not trespassers. They were waiting for a friend to arrive before they made their order. That's not a crime. There's no reason to call the police. ... | 8dmcpl | CMV: BLM protesters need to be treated like adults and arrested when they break the law | It's extremely condescending to treat minorities like children and not uphold them to the same standards as everyone else.
The most recent example is with Starbucks asking trespassers to leave. Here's some [fake news regarding the story](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/17/starbucks-to-close-all-stores-on-may-29-for-racia... | Buck_Da_Duck | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:Women who say "all men are trash" are only basing that on stories other women say OR they date/surround themselves with terrible men. It's not a man problem, it's a woman problem.
PLEASE NOTE: this is not diminishing sexual assault, cat-calling, or any type of illegal/rude behavior from some men towards women. The... | You are partially correct. It's not a man problem but it's not a woman problem either. It's a societal problem. Let me give an example.
Let's suppose that I invite 100 ppl to a conference, 50 in blue coats and 50 in black coats. However 10 of the 50 ppl in blue coats also happen to be very agressive MLM sales people.... | You said the last paragraph is anecdotal, implying that other parts weren’t. what would you call the rest of your post if not anecdotal.
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My view. Which I've sought to be changed.
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Interesting. Would love to help but as I think about it I come up with a problem. I think the same thing about men who are women ... | bipvb6 | CMV:Women who say "all men are trash" are only basing that on stories other women say OR they date/surround themselves with terrible men. It's not a man problem, it's a woman problem. | PLEASE NOTE: this is not diminishing sexual assault, cat-calling, or any type of illegal/rude behavior from some men towards women. The spectrum of illegal/rude behavior is wide and I don't intend to base this off of those instances.
On twitter and other social media platforms many women often say "All men are trash".... | alltime_pf_guru | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Nobody should eat pork
I think pigs shouldn't be raised for meat and nobody should ever eat pork, because it's shit for your health and doesn't even taste good.
Pork is known for transmitting viruses such as Hepatitis, Multiple Sclerosis, and Influenza. It's also very fatty and can cause high cholesterol, heart ... | If I’m being nit-picky, I don’t understand how “it doesn’t even taste good” should be a reason no one should eat it since good and bad taste are subjective.
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Sorry, that wasn't the main portion of my argument.
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https://www.health-alternatives.com/bacon-nutrients.html
I don't really see how it's "shit for you health" seems to have a decent amount of proteins and minerals
>and doesn't even taste good.
Are you saying bacon doesn't taste good? WTF is wrong with you?
>Pork is known for tran... | p1dcxt | CMV: Nobody should eat pork | I think pigs shouldn't be raised for meat and nobody should ever eat pork, because it's shit for your health and doesn't even taste good.
Pork is known for transmitting viruses such as Hepatitis, Multiple Sclerosis, and Influenza. It's also very fatty and can cause high cholesterol, heart disease, and diabetes. Not to... | Narrow-Store | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I should probably not call trans women "women". "Woman" should refer to sex, not gender.
Hey there, folks!
First up: I am a supporter of trans-rights and am trying to educate myself better in order to be a trans-ally. That said, I have a habit of only every watching videos made by people who disagree with me, and... | Why is sex important here at all? Unless you're a doctor and their birth-assigned sex is relevant to their treatment, or you're their partner and their ability to bear children is in question, a person's sex isn't particularly defining and therefore isn't useful in general conversation.
In your 'ideal world' nobody wo... | What I think your stance lacks is perhaps the input on what society perspective is. Like it leave, tyrannic or open, society has a big impact on how we see the world and how we want to be identified.
Now I'm not saying society is always right or should be adhered to, I'm just saying it has a powerful influence, and th... | 8djjir | CMV: I should probably not call trans women "women". "Woman" should refer to sex, not gender. | Hey there, folks!
First up: I am a supporter of trans-rights and am trying to educate myself better in order to be a trans-ally. That said, I have a habit of only every watching videos made by people who disagree with me, and have lately been going through some Gender Critical Feminist arguments that have me convinced ... | HazelGhost | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I should probably not call trans women "women". "Woman" should refer to sex, not gender.
Hey there, folks!
First up: I am a supporter of trans-rights and am trying to educate myself better in order to be a trans-ally. That said, I have a habit of only every watching videos made by people who disagree with me, and... | Why is sex important here at all? Unless you're a doctor and their birth-assigned sex is relevant to their treatment, or you're their partner and their ability to bear children is in question, a person's sex isn't particularly defining and therefore isn't useful in general conversation.
In your 'ideal world' nobody wo... | Gender exists. It's neurological. That's why GID exists. Referring to people as women because they have female brains is entirely appropriate.
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> Gender exists. It's neurological. That's why GID exists. Referring to people as women because they have female brains is entirely appropriate.
I have some concept of... | 8djjir | CMV: I should probably not call trans women "women". "Woman" should refer to sex, not gender. | Hey there, folks!
First up: I am a supporter of trans-rights and am trying to educate myself better in order to be a trans-ally. That said, I have a habit of only every watching videos made by people who disagree with me, and have lately been going through some Gender Critical Feminist arguments that have me convinced ... | HazelGhost | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I should probably not call trans women "women". "Woman" should refer to sex, not gender.
Hey there, folks!
First up: I am a supporter of trans-rights and am trying to educate myself better in order to be a trans-ally. That said, I have a habit of only every watching videos made by people who disagree with me, and... | What I think your stance lacks is perhaps the input on what society perspective is. Like it leave, tyrannic or open, society has a big impact on how we see the world and how we want to be identified.
Now I'm not saying society is always right or should be adhered to, I'm just saying it has a powerful influence, and th... | Why is sex important here at all? Unless you're a doctor and their birth-assigned sex is relevant to their treatment, or you're their partner and their ability to bear children is in question, a person's sex isn't particularly defining and therefore isn't useful in general conversation.
In your 'ideal world' nobody wo... | 8djjir | CMV: I should probably not call trans women "women". "Woman" should refer to sex, not gender. | Hey there, folks!
First up: I am a supporter of trans-rights and am trying to educate myself better in order to be a trans-ally. That said, I have a habit of only every watching videos made by people who disagree with me, and have lately been going through some Gender Critical Feminist arguments that have me convinced ... | HazelGhost | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: For most ordinary people, cardio is a superior form of training compared to lifting
The default /r/fitness sub is obsessed with lifting. The widely accepted wisdom is that anybody, everybody should lift. Stronglift, Starting Strength, 5/3/1, Push-Pull-Legs are some of the most commonly recommended routines. This ... | I don't have all the links with me, but if you have limited time, go for strength training. If will improve and retain your general health better.
The idea is. If all you have is 4 mins a day. Strength training, or at least, a sprint, which is not cardio, is better than cardio.
Check out high intensity interval train... | 1. Why would lifting not improve blood flow and circulation? You don't get to push out 8-12 + repetitions of heavy compound lifts without good baseline cardiovascular fitness. If it's just endurance you're talking about you can easily train for that by using higher repetitions and lower resting times between sets.
2.... | aknh55 | CMV: For most ordinary people, cardio is a superior form of training compared to lifting | The default /r/fitness sub is obsessed with lifting. The widely accepted wisdom is that anybody, everybody should lift. Stronglift, Starting Strength, 5/3/1, Push-Pull-Legs are some of the most commonly recommended routines. This is understandable since Reddit is mostly populated by young males whose primary interests ... | minhhale | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Generally speaking, it is easier to be anti gun than pro gun even in the USA
Especially in the wake of a mass shooting like what recently happened in Buffalo. Why? It seems to be natural to call for more gun control, even if the state that the shooting happened in had strict gun control already.
Also, people wh... | It definitely depends on where you are.
Yes, If I go to my NYC suburban town's supermarket open carrying I'm gonna get the cops called on me. If I wear a "Ban Gun" shirt no one would care.
However, If I go to a deeply rural place, hell I don't even need to go far, Rural PA, I can walk into a convenience store with a... | It's also easier to be anti baby sacrifice than it is to be pro baby sacrifice, but I doubt that's controversial. I'm confused what your point is. Not all viewpoints are created equal. There seems to be some unstated implication here that being pro gun makes you some kind of marginalised group due to the additional scr... | uqwcg3 | CMV: Generally speaking, it is easier to be anti gun than pro gun even in the USA | Especially in the wake of a mass shooting like what recently happened in Buffalo. Why? It seems to be natural to call for more gun control, even if the state that the shooting happened in had strict gun control already.
Also, people who are pro gun are often said to be unempathetic and often have to defend their poli... | carsandsodabars | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: State-sponsored media is the best solution for objective journalism.
Modern journalism is facing a crisis. [Since the 90s](http://www.people-press.org/2010/09/12/section-5-news-media-credibility/), credibility ratings for major news networks in the U.S. have been falling rapidly. Having an impartial and objective... | The credibility of state sponsored news networks such as the BBC is also falling rapidly. That’s because such networks almost always have a left wing bias, as you point out. Private media chases ratings, but you forgot to mention the incentives of state-owned media (they are not “write objective news”). You cannot solv... | I'f we had this, it'd be another bureaucracy, which would mean the president would pick it's head. You wouldn't get unbiased journalism, just journalism that follows the bias of the current president.
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Why didn't this happened to BBC?
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I don't know much about the BBC so I can't speak to that. I get the feelin... | akmzfl | CMV: State-sponsored media is the best solution for objective journalism. | Modern journalism is facing a crisis. [Since the 90s](http://www.people-press.org/2010/09/12/section-5-news-media-credibility/), credibility ratings for major news networks in the U.S. have been falling rapidly. Having an impartial and objective news is vitally important for a democracy, as in an age of increasingly po... | Tactician_mark | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Under the law in Western countries, for most issues (be it gender related or not), Women have it better than men.
It's true that in when it comes to culture, women have it shit for some issues. Women have it worse for things like rape, domestic abuse, acceptance in high places (business and political world), expe... | You didn't named any laws, all of your post is about cultural issues, and your final conclusion seems to be that feminism is anti-equality, which is a totally different contention than your title. This seems like an unfocused MRA screed less than a coherent view being laid out for critique.
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It's not so much laws ... | Almost all the laws were written by men. It makes sense for them to write the laws in their favor, and it makes sense for other men to complain it's not enough in their favor. Your argument is like saying a football coach requested a review on a foul committed by his own team.
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I don't see how the [FBI definition ... | 67hfvb | CMV: Under the law in Western countries, for most issues (be it gender related or not), Women have it better than men. | It's true that in when it comes to culture, women have it shit for some issues. Women have it worse for things like rape, domestic abuse, acceptance in high places (business and political world), expectation for housework... Men have it worse in others (behaviour in education, support for domestic abuse, scrutiny of pa... | hotpie08 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Under the law in Western countries, for most issues (be it gender related or not), Women have it better than men.
It's true that in when it comes to culture, women have it shit for some issues. Women have it worse for things like rape, domestic abuse, acceptance in high places (business and political world), expe... | You didn't named any laws, all of your post is about cultural issues, and your final conclusion seems to be that feminism is anti-equality, which is a totally different contention than your title. This seems like an unfocused MRA screed less than a coherent view being laid out for critique.
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It's not so much laws ... | The problem with the ideal of treating everyone equally is that males and females are *not* physically equal - so if they were truly treated equally, it would be detrimental to females, who are physically disadvantaged.
Ideally, I think the law should strive to be ''fair'' rather than ''equal'' ... and in that strivin... | 67hfvb | CMV: Under the law in Western countries, for most issues (be it gender related or not), Women have it better than men. | It's true that in when it comes to culture, women have it shit for some issues. Women have it worse for things like rape, domestic abuse, acceptance in high places (business and political world), expectation for housework... Men have it worse in others (behaviour in education, support for domestic abuse, scrutiny of pa... | hotpie08 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: When certain elements of the manosphere seize on "toxic masculinity" or promote "feminism" it is not because they care about women
If you watch you will likely notice some manosphere (particularly incel) types rail against "toxic masculinity" and promote "feminism". This seems incongruous for good reason, conside... | I have read your post twice and I am not sure what your over all point seems to be. Is your view that people are only against toxic masculinity and support feminism because they fail to meet the requirements to be masculine according to toxic masculinity?
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Basically just these incels (or similar) guys I have seen ... | For clarification: Is your view that incels don't like women? I ask because that view is pretty hard to argue against.
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Not infrequently, people I would describe as incels (who don't like women) are promoting feminism or feminist-sounding views. It's hard to search for to find examples with the incel subs on reddi... | uquz84 | CMV: When certain elements of the manosphere seize on "toxic masculinity" or promote "feminism" it is not because they care about women | If you watch you will likely notice some manosphere (particularly incel) types rail against "toxic masculinity" and promote "feminism". This seems incongruous for good reason, considering all the negative things they say about women and negative stereotypes they promote about women.
Toxic masculinity is decried primar... | josephfidler | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Not all women are beautiful
First that doesn't make sense because if all women were beautiful then logically no woman is beautiful, as all of them would be considered average...It's like Syndrome's immortal quote "when everyone is super, no one will be"
And there should be no difference between beauty and other ... | This is what I would call a strawman argument.
Who is stating that all women are beautiful?
Do you acknowledge that beauty is subjective?
Could it mean/imply more than just appearance?
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>Who is stating that all women are beautiful?
That's a popular narrative that I see all the time in the media and in "motiv... | Are we talking, "skin deep", superficial, aesthetic beauty only, here?
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Yes, as I said there other qualities that may or may not be in a woman and beauty is one of them, so no I'm not talking about "beautiful from the inside" women
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I don't have much on that. Physical beauty is subjective. Not every woman m... | j7g1pq | CMV: Not all women are beautiful | First that doesn't make sense because if all women were beautiful then logically no woman is beautiful, as all of them would be considered average...It's like Syndrome's immortal quote "when everyone is super, no one will be"
And there should be no difference between beauty and other qualities like intelligence, kindn... | BigOzymandias | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The United States Is Doomed to Fail
We're seeing partisan polarization that is reinforced by partisan media and partisan politicians. It's to a point where bipartisanship is no longer achievable. The parties will not support the other on big issues because they know the constituents would hold it against them i... | What do you mean by fail? Like... a spectacular collapse or a slow decline into irrelevancy? I mean, sure the US will probably eventually decline and perhaps that decline has already begun, but the way things are are not necessarily the way things will always be. I mean, we were a nation so divided once that we literal... | [deleted]
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>Most politicians do not care about constituents opinions. Ever since Citizens United, they only care about the people writing the checks. A campaign finance reform amendment would solve a ton of our problems.
I would argue that they care to the extent of what could get them re-elected because people w... | uquics | CMV: The United States Is Doomed to Fail | We're seeing partisan polarization that is reinforced by partisan media and partisan politicians. It's to a point where bipartisanship is no longer achievable. The parties will not support the other on big issues because they know the constituents would hold it against them if they did. Job security for lawmakers is... | lordshocktart | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Plants are the superior form of life
From a purely pacifist/ productive point of view, and considering the metabolic pathways, plants are the final form of evolution.
Autotrophs, nigh solipsistic, hurt noone and feed everyone, continuous growth etc. In contrast to most other living organisms that are parasitical ... | Where did you leave off in your biology classes? I don't mean that as an excoriation of your knowledge but it seems more like you're content to ignore a huge portion of the plant kingdom in favor of a rosy view of their lives.
There are carnivorous plants, there are parasitic plants, and there is competition amongst ... | If plants are a superior life form then plant lives should be more valuable than human lives but that's not true. To say something is superior is to also say it has more value in the context of it's superiority therefore to say plants are a superior lifeform to humans is to say plants are more valuable than humans.
--... | biyw9k | CMV: Plants are the superior form of life | From a purely pacifist/ productive point of view, and considering the metabolic pathways, plants are the final form of evolution.
Autotrophs, nigh solipsistic, hurt noone and feed everyone, continuous growth etc. In contrast to most other living organisms that are parasitical by nature.
A plant generally sacrifices mo... | Swimreadmed | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Climate change activists (any entity that officially acknowledges and actively aims to inform/mitigate its effects) don't take climate change seriously enough. So we can't expect average people to react seriously as well. Basically, Greta is bad climate mascot
I'm hoping this will be a pretty easy view to change ... | How serious do you want them to be? Serious enough to steal a bunch of uranium from Iran to make their own nuclear power plant in the crater of the coal plant they just bombed?
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I mean I kinda said it in the OP, serious enough to at least try a good marketing/PR campaign, something that, to my knowledge, seems to... | Why focus on Greta in this situation? Was she the first and only mascot of Climate Change? What about all the mascots that came before? Could it be that those that oppose Climate Change are doing so not due to the mascot but for entirely different reasons? And, that no matter what mascot represents said movement th... | p15b30 | CMV: Climate change activists (any entity that officially acknowledges and actively aims to inform/mitigate its effects) don't take climate change seriously enough. So we can't expect average people to react seriously as well. Basically, Greta is bad climate mascot | I'm hoping this will be a pretty easy view to change since I'm not super knowledgeable about climate activism. But that's the crux of my issue, how the fuck am I, an average person who's pretty strongly in the know of things that don't often make a tons of headlines, not hearing more about climate and activism?
I don'... | Frylock904 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I don't think voting for 3rd party in USA is wasteful
Just to clarify I am Scandinavian so voting for 3rd party over here is pretty normal among other Scandinavians since we have multiple party system compared to American voting system. And I Want an American person perspective on this to expand my view. If it ch... | Not really all it does is split the vote, instead people need to campaign for ranked choice voting. Not voting for somone who will never get in
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Can't you do both tho? And don't you think the 2 top parties Will look closer on the bottom ones if they get lets say above 5% altogether?
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Not in the slightest. It'... | Either way it makes no difference voting for a third party in America, third party will never win unless the system changes.
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Nope they Will never win that is right but it can make the 2 top parties to consider adopting 3rd parties policies if they get above 5% altogether I think
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Conservatives will never vot... | j7bisc | CMV: I don't think voting for 3rd party in USA is wasteful | Just to clarify I am Scandinavian so voting for 3rd party over here is pretty normal among other Scandinavians since we have multiple party system compared to American voting system. And I Want an American person perspective on this to expand my view. If it changed my view a little bit I give a delta. Anyway lets start... | Thowsen777 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Telling people to read fiction is no different than telling people to read the Bible
Many people would have you believe that reading fiction makes you a better person. They also like to think they are enlightened by the activity, and anyone who doesn't "read" (in quotes because while reading can mean anything, "d... | Reading is not just fiction. That's just an huge false assumption. Biographies, history, recent events..
This is coming from an atheist: reading fiction can be the same as reading the bible, as in that you are learning about the characters and morals of the story. Because Insee the bible as a book of parables and mor... | > ... How is fiction different from religion? ...
Fiction generally doesn't come with a political power structure. It varies a bit, but religion does include a whole bunch of other stuff than "here, read this book." When people tell you to read Harry Potter it doesn't come packaged with guidance from the church.
... | akm5te | CMV: Telling people to read fiction is no different than telling people to read the Bible | Many people would have you believe that reading fiction makes you a better person. They also like to think they are enlightened by the activity, and anyone who doesn't "read" (in quotes because while reading can mean anything, "do you read" always means "do you read fiction") must be unenlightened and living a sad, gre... | AManIsBusy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Not everything is kosher about the US election, due to the sudden switch to write in election methods.
*VIEW CHANGED*
I'm very happy with the election result and don't advocate for violence but I think the stupid rhetoric is masking some legitimate questions about the validity of result.
I'm outside the US but ... | >I'm outside the US but have some interest in the process there. From my understanding the way the election process in US works is an external firm looks at existing voting numbers to ensure gerrymandering does not benefit either party and a 'close fight' for the election, trying to ensure values are represented evenly... | You can gerrymander specific congressional districts, but you can't do it to a state.
For districts you can chose the borders of that district, bur for a state you simply count up all the votes and add them and the winner takes all.
nothing was manipulated to make things better for Democratic Candidates.
Mail in ... | kvjhd8 | CMV: Not everything is kosher about the US election, due to the sudden switch to write in election methods. | *VIEW CHANGED*
I'm very happy with the election result and don't advocate for violence but I think the stupid rhetoric is masking some legitimate questions about the validity of result.
I'm outside the US but have some interest in the process there. From my understanding the way the election process in US works is an... | Walletau | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Not everything is kosher about the US election, due to the sudden switch to write in election methods.
*VIEW CHANGED*
I'm very happy with the election result and don't advocate for violence but I think the stupid rhetoric is masking some legitimate questions about the validity of result.
I'm outside the US but ... | Gerrymandering had no impact on the GA Senate election. You can't really gerrymander a state; gerrymandering specifically refers to the division of districts in smaller elections, and the state itself wasn't divided.
---
Is the electoral representation always a popular vote by state? Because the election results are ... | You can gerrymander specific congressional districts, but you can't do it to a state.
For districts you can chose the borders of that district, bur for a state you simply count up all the votes and add them and the winner takes all.
nothing was manipulated to make things better for Democratic Candidates.
Mail in ... | kvjhd8 | CMV: Not everything is kosher about the US election, due to the sudden switch to write in election methods. | *VIEW CHANGED*
I'm very happy with the election result and don't advocate for violence but I think the stupid rhetoric is masking some legitimate questions about the validity of result.
I'm outside the US but have some interest in the process there. From my understanding the way the election process in US works is an... | Walletau | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Not everything is kosher about the US election, due to the sudden switch to write in election methods.
*VIEW CHANGED*
I'm very happy with the election result and don't advocate for violence but I think the stupid rhetoric is masking some legitimate questions about the validity of result.
I'm outside the US but ... | You can gerrymander specific congressional districts, but you can't do it to a state.
For districts you can chose the borders of that district, bur for a state you simply count up all the votes and add them and the winner takes all.
nothing was manipulated to make things better for Democratic Candidates.
Mail in ... | So basically more people popped up and voted for Biden than expected?
I can't imagine how he could have won if that is the case...
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As the 2016 election proved, the popular vote does not necessarily mean election.
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Oh, one thing you should note is that redistricting doesn't really influence the outcome of fe... | kvjhd8 | CMV: Not everything is kosher about the US election, due to the sudden switch to write in election methods. | *VIEW CHANGED*
I'm very happy with the election result and don't advocate for violence but I think the stupid rhetoric is masking some legitimate questions about the validity of result.
I'm outside the US but have some interest in the process there. From my understanding the way the election process in US works is an... | Walletau | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: You shouldn't punch nazis. Unless they're ACTUAL 1940s Germany Nazis.
Can you guys stop glorifying violence against somebody because of their political views?
Seriously. I mean, sure, call nazis retards. They are! But don't say that because you find their politics abhorrent, you can commit violent acts. People o... | You compare a nazi being punched to a democrat being punched, but I'm sure that you agree their political beliefs aren't comparable. Neonazism is based on hatred of others and a desire for a homogenous society, often necessitating the *removal* of those "others" (most notably jews and LGBT people, certain races, the di... | Are you arguing only the position in your title? What if a non-1940s nazi tries to kill me for being mixed race? Are you suggesting that because he exists in the modern era I have no right to defend myself?
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I can't remember whether or not I included this in the post (long night, lots of emotions) but what I meant... | akkx4l | CMV: You shouldn't punch nazis. Unless they're ACTUAL 1940s Germany Nazis. | Can you guys stop glorifying violence against somebody because of their political views?
Seriously. I mean, sure, call nazis retards. They are! But don't say that because you find their politics abhorrent, you can commit violent acts. People on Reddit don't seem to be able to grasp this concept. Nazis are sacks of shi... | Genesis1522 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Anti-discrimination laws for private businesses are not appropriate today
I think almost everyone would say that in the 1960s, the civil rights legislation as applied to private institutions (which serves the public, like restaurants, hotels, etc) were appropriate.
However, that type of legislation, on a fundam... | > it violates the freedom of association
No, it doesn’t. Nobody has forced you to open a business to the public.
Do zoning laws violate your freedom of movement?
> Although some argue that racism is just as alive today, just more subtle, I think that argument ignores very clear and indisputable objective markers of ... | If you give people the right to legally discriminate people will use that power to legally discriminate.
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I don't think that's true. Currently, there is a legal right to discriminate against red headed people. Yet, red headed people are not really being hurt by discrimination in public accommodations.
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Nons... | 8dhaws | CMV: Anti-discrimination laws for private businesses are not appropriate today | I think almost everyone would say that in the 1960s, the civil rights legislation as applied to private institutions (which serves the public, like restaurants, hotels, etc) were appropriate.
However, that type of legislation, on a fundamental level, is illiberal in the sense that it violates the freedom of associati... | ricksc-137 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The 2nd amendment should be abolished in favor of each state regulating guns on their own
The 2nd amendment seems to have lost its original purpose. There are so many ways for people to protest/fight back against the government now that I don’t believe a militia to fight a tyrannical government is necessary. If t... | The fact exists that the right to bear arms is an inalienable God given right, just like the rest of the amendments in the Bill of Rights. Do you think it would be a good idea to let states make laws regarding these other amendments? What if a state decided to remove the right to free speech or religion. What if a s... | >If there’s a government that’s tyrannical enough that we need to fight back with guns, then why would the government still give us that right anyway?
They likely wouldn't. The reason the amendment exists is to ensure that *if* the government becomes tyrannical the public is able to resist it. If a government outright... | akf794 | CMV: The 2nd amendment should be abolished in favor of each state regulating guns on their own | The 2nd amendment seems to have lost its original purpose. There are so many ways for people to protest/fight back against the government now that I don’t believe a militia to fight a tyrannical government is necessary. If there’s a government that’s tyrannical enough that we need to fight back with guns, then why woul... | JustBk0z | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: I've become part of the problem with America by losing fervor against Trump
This was my first election and around the election I was full heartedly anti-Trump. I hated him, I constantly made the Donald Drumpf jokes, I watch comedians who would tear him to shreds over how stupid he was as a candidate, I voted agai... | Do you still disapprove of the job Trump is doing? Are you going to vote against Trump and his party during midterms and 2020? If so, you aren't a problem, you're just suffering from political fatigue. If you let that fatigue prevent you from caring and taking action when elections roll around, then that is a problem.
... | I'm curious about what your anti-Trump fervor prior to the election translated to action-wise? You say you watched comedians and made jokes and encouraged others not to vote for him, but did you do any organized campaigning or otherwise volunteer time or money to political organizations? Because based on your post, i... | 67ibcy | CMV: I've become part of the problem with America by losing fervor against Trump | This was my first election and around the election I was full heartedly anti-Trump. I hated him, I constantly made the Donald Drumpf jokes, I watch comedians who would tear him to shreds over how stupid he was as a candidate, I voted against him, i was active in my community and on my college campus, I was actively fol... | Thefishlord | 9 | 7 | [
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