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CMV: Since you can spread COVID even when you're vaccinated, if you're young and healthy it should be a personal decision to take the vaccine or not with no judgements
One of the main talking points about taking the vaccine was to achieve herd immunity. Since the Delta variant came and is able to infect vaccinated peo... | Even with the Delta variant, the vaccine *still* makes you less likely to get the coronavirus. It also dramatically reduces your likelihood of serious symptoms or hospitalization. Combine that with the very, very small chance of side effects and it's still worth taking.
The mortality rate may be close to zero, but sev... | [deleted]
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are you saying the unvaccinated pose a risk to the vaccinated
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The point being made there is that you're less likely to get the coronavirus with the vaccine, much like a sober driver is less likely to crash than a drunk driver. | p3cy6f | CMV: Since you can spread COVID even when you're vaccinated, if you're young and healthy it should be a personal decision to take the vaccine or not with no judgements | One of the main talking points about taking the vaccine was to achieve herd immunity. Since the Delta variant came and is able to infect vaccinated people it seems like herd immunity will be impossible at least with the current vaccines that we have.
So the only reason to take the vaccine would be in the scenario tha... | changemyview_covid | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Since you can spread COVID even when you're vaccinated, if you're young and healthy it should be a personal decision to take the vaccine or not with no judgements
One of the main talking points about taking the vaccine was to achieve herd immunity. Since the Delta variant came and is able to infect vaccinated peo... | Even with the Delta variant, the vaccine *still* makes you less likely to get the coronavirus. It also dramatically reduces your likelihood of serious symptoms or hospitalization. Combine that with the very, very small chance of side effects and it's still worth taking.
The mortality rate may be close to zero, but sev... | "Can still be infected" is different from "no protection". Vaccinated people are still significantly less likely than vaccinated people to contract and spread the delta variant.
Edit: also, regarding having second thoughts...why the hell, though? The probability of having more-than-annoying side effects from the vacci... | p3cy6f | CMV: Since you can spread COVID even when you're vaccinated, if you're young and healthy it should be a personal decision to take the vaccine or not with no judgements | One of the main talking points about taking the vaccine was to achieve herd immunity. Since the Delta variant came and is able to infect vaccinated people it seems like herd immunity will be impossible at least with the current vaccines that we have.
So the only reason to take the vaccine would be in the scenario tha... | changemyview_covid | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The rise of Brietbart was mostly caused by the Daily show and its successors.
This is an idea I've been kicking around for a while. It's based on the observation that human awfulness is generally distributed pretty evenly across the political spectrum, and that it's typically pretty easy to copy successful tactic... | I think it's hard to draw a connection because The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, never pretended (or currently pretend in the case of the Daily Show) to be real news. Their purpose is to be comedic. I mean yeah they talk about real things that have happened but if it can't be made fun of, it doesn't generally get ... | Breitbart comes from talk radio. Done.
Like, Brietbart (etc) is talk radio, just on the internet. It's the same thing.
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How do you know that Brietbart is just an extension of talk radio?
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Because it's the same shit. Breitbart says the same stuff Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and whoever else was s... | 8vz3vm | CMV: The rise of Brietbart was mostly caused by the Daily show and its successors. | This is an idea I've been kicking around for a while. It's based on the observation that human awfulness is generally distributed pretty evenly across the political spectrum, and that it's typically pretty easy to copy successful tactics. I was wondering why there isn't a fake news organization as succesful Brietbart o... | Metallic52 | 5 | 5 | [
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cmv: I think makeup, with some few exceptions should be banned.
I'm not even 15 yet but from what I've seen makeup seems to have such a negative effect on girls and society as a whole, with next to no positives
Makeup just makes girls seem to think that they're ugly without makeup? My girlfriend will put on makeup e... | > with next to no positives
My friend has bad acne scarring on her cheeks. With makeup you can’t tell. Wearing makeup allows people to see her face instead of the scars on her face when they look at her. That is a positive.
> Majority of my friends are female, and after asking them many questions, ever since in... | [removed]
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Be nice. Lil bro has just drawn the wrong conclusion from some right information - could happen to anyone.
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I was serious. | 125jaof | cmv: I think makeup, with some few exceptions should be banned. | I'm not even 15 yet but from what I've seen makeup seems to have such a negative effect on girls and society as a whole, with next to no positives
Makeup just makes girls seem to think that they're ugly without makeup? My girlfriend will put on makeup even if she knows that she won't go anywhere that day, she just fe... | Chrysos-89 | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: I think makeup, with some few exceptions should be banned.
I'm not even 15 yet but from what I've seen makeup seems to have such a negative effect on girls and society as a whole, with next to no positives
Makeup just makes girls seem to think that they're ugly without makeup? My girlfriend will put on makeup e... | So, how exactly do you plan to enforce a ban on makeup?
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By banning the sale of makeup from... wherever makeup is sold
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I want to just gently point out that you don't use it. Women and girls are the ones who mostly do, and many use it and see it in a healthy way. As a guy, you shouldn't really be trying to de... | Whole world out there, Reddit is not the place to be lil bro.
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it is at 12am on a school night!
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School will teach you a little about a lot . Save up some money in high school. If you have 10k by the time you graduate you’ll be wayy ahead of anyone else. Work towards that | 125jaof | cmv: I think makeup, with some few exceptions should be banned. | I'm not even 15 yet but from what I've seen makeup seems to have such a negative effect on girls and society as a whole, with next to no positives
Makeup just makes girls seem to think that they're ugly without makeup? My girlfriend will put on makeup even if she knows that she won't go anywhere that day, she just fe... | Chrysos-89 | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: I think makeup, with some few exceptions should be banned.
I'm not even 15 yet but from what I've seen makeup seems to have such a negative effect on girls and society as a whole, with next to no positives
Makeup just makes girls seem to think that they're ugly without makeup? My girlfriend will put on makeup e... | We don't ban things just because some people have an unhealthy relationship with them.
Make-up is enjoyed, healthily, by millions. Yes, teenage girls have to struggle to reach that healthy relationship. The same is true of fashion -- should we ban nice clothes? The same is true of *alcohol,* should that be illegal? If... | So, how exactly do you plan to enforce a ban on makeup?
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By banning the sale of makeup from... wherever makeup is sold
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You can easily make your own makeup or use something else as makeup. I found a recipe for foundation online with these very easy to obtain ingredients:
1 tablespoon base (arrowroot powder o... | 125jaof | cmv: I think makeup, with some few exceptions should be banned. | I'm not even 15 yet but from what I've seen makeup seems to have such a negative effect on girls and society as a whole, with next to no positives
Makeup just makes girls seem to think that they're ugly without makeup? My girlfriend will put on makeup even if she knows that she won't go anywhere that day, she just fe... | Chrysos-89 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I would rather live in China than the US.
Disclaimer: I am an American citizen and have lived here all my life. I have never been to China, but I would move there tomorrow without thinking about it if I got the chance. Here's why.
1. Abortion rights: In China, women have the right to choose what happens to their... | I'll just leave [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre) and [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide) here.
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I addressed the Uyghur genocide in my post. As for the protest and massacre, I just wouldn't take part in the protests. I wouldn't see much of a rea... | >Human rights record: I am aware of China's treatment of Uyghurs, and wholeheartedly condemn it. However, the US is committing a genocide of its own against LGBTQ youth through initiatives such as the Don't Say Gay law and other attempts to erase them from society.
Are you really willing to make a whataboutism on [a s... | wrwdvg | CMV: I would rather live in China than the US. | Disclaimer: I am an American citizen and have lived here all my life. I have never been to China, but I would move there tomorrow without thinking about it if I got the chance. Here's why.
1. Abortion rights: In China, women have the right to choose what happens to their own bodies. In the United States, Roe v. Wade w... | LucasWhitefur7822 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Religion Is Not Controlling
Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to ... | As someone who grew up Mormon, I found religion extremely controlling. It starts with a lot of little things and then gradually controls your entire life. I left when I was about 16 because I just couldn’t take the amount of control they wanted over my life. As a child I wasn’t allowed to have caffeinated beverages. I’... | > surrender
to yield to the power, **control**, or possession of another upon compulsion or demand.
Was this word choice intentional?
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No. But you are not being controlled. I meant devotion actually
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To surrender is to give up control to someone or something, you've already given up on your original meaning... | y5gfgt | CMV: Religion Is Not Controlling | Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to see if I can change my view.
Tak... | AbiLovesTheology | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Religion Is Not Controlling
Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to ... | You mistake controlling and coercitive. (though religion also is coercitive a lot of times)
No one being there to force you to do things doesn't mean there's no controll, just that tehre's no coercion.
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How is religion coercive?
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By expecting its followers to behave in certain ways, to eat and dress how the ... | "I am not controlled by religion and therefore nobody is" is one hell of a take.
If you're Hindu, then the entire existence of the Caste System should indicate how controlling religion can be.
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Can you give an example of someone being controlled by any religion?
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Kosher and Halal foods, covering hair, sin, n... | y5gfgt | CMV: Religion Is Not Controlling | Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to see if I can change my view.
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Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to ... | "I am not controlled by religion and therefore nobody is" is one hell of a take.
If you're Hindu, then the entire existence of the Caste System should indicate how controlling religion can be.
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Can you give an example of someone being controlled by any religion?
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Is this a joke? If not, then let me introduce... | Are there any things that are against the beliefs and teachings of the religion but not illegal in a political or national way? Like in Catholicism you can't be gay but it's not illegal, from a political sense, to be gay in America.
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Eating beef maybe, but I would do that even if I wasn’t Hindu
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Okay so do yo... | y5gfgt | CMV: Religion Is Not Controlling | Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to see if I can change my view.
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Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to ... | "I am not controlled by religion and therefore nobody is" is one hell of a take.
If you're Hindu, then the entire existence of the Caste System should indicate how controlling religion can be.
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Can you give an example of someone being controlled by any religion?
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Those non Islamic women protesting in Iran be... | You mistake controlling and coercitive. (though religion also is coercitive a lot of times)
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Conversion therapies, beatings, religious law enforcement, forced conversion (s... | y5gfgt | CMV: Religion Is Not Controlling | Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to see if I can change my view.
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Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to ... | "I am not controlled by religion and therefore nobody is" is one hell of a take.
If you're Hindu, then the entire existence of the Caste System should indicate how controlling religion can be.
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What rock are you living under? In Islam, wom... | [deleted]
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How does caste control people?
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Well, let's look at the Dalits. You know, the untouchables. They were relegated to the lowest jobs thay were considered unclean, like sanitation work, creating leather, and scavenging. And oh boy, is the modern day poverty and discrimination still pretty rampant, to ... | y5gfgt | CMV: Religion Is Not Controlling | Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to see if I can change my view.
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Many atheists on Reddit and IRL have said to me that they find religion is controlling. I don't understand their view but I respect it. I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim. They do not think my viewpoint on the matter is reflective of reality, so I want to ... | > I want to understand what evidence they have to make their claim.
The entire basis of religion is "if you don't follow this very specific set of rules and ideas giving to you by the man in the sky. When you die you will suffer for all entirety"
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CMV: Ice is following the lead of Nazi's who were also faced with overcrowding in their ghettos and camps, and it may already be happening.
Originally, the German Nazi's plan wasn't to simply murder every Jew. They original actions, which went on for 10 years or so, was to first ostracize them. Then make finding wor... | Jews living in Germany and other European countries were natural born citizens, not illegal immigrants.
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They never said they were? They're saying that what's happening to undocumented immigrants (and sometimes documented ones too) mirrors what happened to Jewish people before and during the Holocaust.
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Then ... | You’re conflating immigrants with illegal immigrants. Deportations happen in all countries.
What proof do you have these people are never heard from again? Just vibes?
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CMV: Electrical engineering is an obsolete degree and has been replaced by other more modern degrees
Recently, I have attempted to get into the space industry and I have been rejected by 3 final round interviews so far which is a zero percent success rate.
I believe that electrical engineering degrees have become ... | So what job titles are you applying for in the space industry? Secondly how many and where are you applying?
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I have mostly applied for internships and graduate programs. I have applied at 12 places.
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3/12 going to final interview is actually an astoundingly high success rate for a new-grad job search. I thin... |
Sorry to hear this, that is hard thing if you believe it is the case would you get some other perspectives from
r/engineering
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I want to see alternative perspectives on this topic, like for example people suggesting that Electrical Engineering is not out of date.
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So another perspective: I am not in HR but I... | vi0vzr | CMV: Electrical engineering is an obsolete degree and has been replaced by other more modern degrees |
Recently, I have attempted to get into the space industry and I have been rejected by 3 final round interviews so far which is a zero percent success rate.
I believe that electrical engineering degrees have become obsolete degrees, replaced by computer science and mechatronics degrees.
Meanwhile, a local high scho... | TossUndergradToss | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I think we need a change in how laws a created in the US. A new 4 part law system would work.
I think we need a better approach to law making,
The concept says every law needs 4 parts to make sure it works well, is responsible, and can change. This idea wants to create laws that use data and fit society's needs... | How is this system established and enforced? For example, who determines if the words in a law are not easy enough to understand and on what basis? What happens if lawmakers are nebulous about the outcome desired? Is there a limit on sunsetting timeframe? How would laws be passed if they have no particular goal but to ... | If number 2 was possible, why would we ever debate politics? We would just always do the best thing for the country.
We can't predict outcomes of policies, we can't even agree on the outcomes of past policies lol
It is a fantasy, completely useless idea
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Because, the desired outcome would be what is debated, no... | 125q2in | CMV: I think we need a change in how laws a created in the US. A new 4 part law system would work. | I think we need a better approach to law making,
The concept says every law needs 4 parts to make sure it works well, is responsible, and can change. This idea wants to create laws that use data and fit society's needs. The 4 parts are:
1. The Law: This part talks about the main rules and policies. It should say wha... | icySquirrel1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The First Amendment needs to be amended further
The First Amendment, in its current form, has contaminated American Political/social Discourse. Hate groups spreading their viciousness, scam artists spreading lies for monetary benefit (like Alex Jones) or simple stupidity
(like Anti-Vaccination groups), or for no... | >I would recommend an Amendment to the First Amendment: Groups or individuals who have been identified as a Hate Group
How on earth would this work?
Does the government decide who is a "hate group"? If so, why would they not just label their opposition "hateful" to prevent them from effectively running for office in... | >Groups or individuals who have been identified as a Hate Group specifically have their First Amendment rights Rescinded
You're not thinking of the consequences of this power. Any power you want to create can and probably will be abused. Any law you put down on paper will come into effect but it will also imply a lo... | 6uwa62 | CMV: The First Amendment needs to be amended further | The First Amendment, in its current form, has contaminated American Political/social Discourse. Hate groups spreading their viciousness, scam artists spreading lies for monetary benefit (like Alex Jones) or simple stupidity
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CMV: I'm just not getting the controversy around the possibility of defunding Planned Parenthood
I don't disagree with anything PP does, or think they aren't providing an essential service.
What I don't get is the logic that any company that provides an essential service should be funded by the government. Aren't the... | Planned Parenthood doesn't just provide abortions. For some reason people who don't bother to research what they do provide. They provide STD screenings and Hep B/HPV vaccines, gynecological exams as well as annual and school exams. Many of these are provided at a sliding cost depending on your ability to pay so that w... | False equivalency.
Planned Parenthood is a health service, toothpaste is a product.
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Is the logic that only health services should be funded? That is where government funding should begin and end?
If the false equivalency bothers you: Why PP over any other private clinic? Why are the PP clinics more important ... | 5ph9mz | CMV: I'm just not getting the controversy around the possibility of defunding Planned Parenthood | I don't disagree with anything PP does, or think they aren't providing an essential service.
What I don't get is the logic that any company that provides an essential service should be funded by the government. Aren't there literally thousands of companies providing essential services that don't get funded by the gove... | ZeusThunder369 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no such thing as Gay Pedophiles or Straight Pedophiles, there are simply Pedophiles.
**Note**: I am only using Pedophilia in the strictest, scientific definition of the term, which is physical attraction to pre-pubescent children. This post is not in reference to Ebe/Hebephiles (those attracted to teens ... | [ Removed by Reddit ]
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Children technically don’t *have* a gender though until they’ve gone through puberty, that’s the whole point here I’m trying to make, children are genderless, which is why you’ve begin to see a shift in the language describing a baby’s sex as *assigned* rather than just plain male/female or ... | This is a strange thing to have expertise in but what about other things? What if, say, there's a woman who is not attracted to men. She is in fact, attracted to women... and also girls. Does her paedophilia somehow erase her lesbianism? Is that a thing?
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I guess she would technically be considered pansexual but i... | vhz27c | CMV: There is no such thing as Gay Pedophiles or Straight Pedophiles, there are simply Pedophiles. | **Note**: I am only using Pedophilia in the strictest, scientific definition of the term, which is physical attraction to pre-pubescent children. This post is not in reference to Ebe/Hebephiles (those attracted to teens who have gone through puberty) because in their case secondary sex characteristics actually *do* fac... | tsundereshipper | 3 | 3 | [
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Children technically don’t *have* a gender though until they’ve gone through puberty, that’s the whole point here I’m trying to make, children are genderless, which is why you’ve begin to see a shift in the language describing a baby’s sex as *assigned* rather than just plain male/female or ... | This is a strange thing to have expertise in but what about other things? What if, say, there's a woman who is not attracted to men. She is in fact, attracted to women... and also girls. Does her paedophilia somehow erase her lesbianism? Is that a thing?
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**Note**: I am only using Pedophilia in the strictest, scientific definition of the term, which is physical attraction to pre-pubescent children. This post is not in reference to Ebe/Hebephiles (those attracted to teens ... | If your argument is correct that pedophiles strictly prey on children because they are "sexless" how do you account for pedophiles with a gender preference? If children are "sexless," wouldn't the data reflect a randomness of victims, especially from repeat offenders? Instead, most pedophiles prey exclusively on one ge... | What about facial features? You can clearly see if a kid is a boy or a girl.
Whether a face looks feminine or masculine is a *major* factor in sexual orientation. It's the main reason why we fall in love with the people of the sex we are into.
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CMV: Any delivery driver or other service employee who works for tips should be immediately fired for confronting customers over a "bad" or lack of one.
I know times are tough right now but I'm seeing a rise in social media and the people around me in regards to tip shaming. I thought it was overblown until my grandmo... | So what you're saying is that systematically underpaid employees should get fired on the spot if they had a bad day because, for example, they couldn't pay some bills or something. Is that what you're saying?
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Yes
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CMV: Some prescriptive statements are objective.
Status: complete change in viewpoint, further comments will be ignored
What I mean by this prescriptive statements like “if you want to follow the law you should not steal.” Is an objective statement.
This might seem obvious but a few weeks ago I thought the opposite... | In your example, the conditional clause "if you want to follow the law" makes the statement positive rather than prescriptive. It does not offer an opinion as to whether you should follow the law; it only provides a mechanism to achieve that goal if you do.
It is the equivalent of the statement "Not stealing is a nece... | Except that not all statement that correctly follow formal logic are objective.
First of all we need to separate valid, sound and true logic. Objective statement must full fill all these requirements.
Logically valid (follows formal logic) statement can be false.
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Well as long as it is based on true propositions... | 125g4hl | CMV: Some prescriptive statements are objective. | Status: complete change in viewpoint, further comments will be ignored
What I mean by this prescriptive statements like “if you want to follow the law you should not steal.” Is an objective statement.
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CMV: Covid-19 has been used repeatedly as an excuse for extremely poor service and outright laziness by numerous companies contributing to a decline in service quality and a rise of inflation in effort to drive profits up and overhead down, all disguised as being health conscious.
Something I’ve noticed for a while ha... | The one example you have was a common practice with some companies prior to covid when dealing with warranties. Do you have an examples actually relevant to your complaint?
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The example I cited was a company I had use pre and post covid. I’m not going to invite a company to come defend itself. We’ve had numerous o... | What makes you so sure that the companies will be able to act in such perfect unison to maintain low quality of service once physical interaction with other people is no longer fraught with the risk of spreading a deadly disease.
Because remember the companies involved are actually stuck in a sort of prisoner's dil... | o655d4 | CMV: Covid-19 has been used repeatedly as an excuse for extremely poor service and outright laziness by numerous companies contributing to a decline in service quality and a rise of inflation in effort to drive profits up and overhead down, all disguised as being health conscious. | Something I’ve noticed for a while has been the terrible excuse of covid to explain manufacturers, distributors, and store fronts blatant laziness. For example normal store fronts would have you purchase a product, take if home, find out it’s defective and rather than offering an exchange, they would ask you to deal re... | upinflames26 | 5 | 5 | [
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Something I’ve noticed for a while ha... | The one example you have was a common practice with some companies prior to covid when dealing with warranties. Do you have an examples actually relevant to your complaint?
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The example I cited was a company I had use pre and post covid. I’m not going to invite a company to come defend itself. We’ve had numerous o... | What makes you so sure that the companies will be able to act in such perfect unison to maintain low quality of service once physical interaction with other people is no longer fraught with the risk of spreading a deadly disease.
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CMV: The cheese should have been on the hot side of the McDLT.
The McDLT was a hamburger McDonalds produced in the 80s whose only notable achievement was [a ridiculous commercial starring Jason Alexander.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac)
The burger is basically a standard burger whose selling point is th... | >which is the only way the American cheese that is present on McDonald's hamburgers is even remotely good
Keyword: present. The McDLT is almost 30 years old.
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Most assuredly. I can't point to any changes in sliced pasteurized cheese product in particular, but si... | If you wish to have melted cheese, you get to choose to move it over from the cool side. If you with to have unmelted cheese, you get to choose to keep it on the cool side. If you don't want any cheese, you don't have to use 3 or 4 napkins scrapping melted cheese off the patty and bun. If not for the material cost and ... | 7edgyy | CMV: The cheese should have been on the hot side of the McDLT. | The McDLT was a hamburger McDonalds produced in the 80s whose only notable achievement was [a ridiculous commercial starring Jason Alexander.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac)
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CMV: Don’t allow Bills in the U.S. to have a name.
There is simply no need to name bills other than their formal name (Inflation Reduction Act was H.R. Also, frown upon the media or politicians giving it a nickname as well. As we see from the Inflation Reduction Act, it is projected to either increase inflation by 0.1... | If bills don’t have names then how would we know what bill we were referencing in any given conversation?
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It has a number. So you can lookup said bill number and read/familiarize yourself with it.
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Don’t you think that people would have a much harder time remembering a random number than they would a name wh... | If you ban Congress naming bills, they are going to be named something colloquial by someone who is either less informed or has other interests - which by the way they are already anyway. Removing Congress' ability to name these bills is just putting them on the back foot for their own legislation, which given how diff... | wrjzg6 | CMV: Don’t allow Bills in the U.S. to have a name. | There is simply no need to name bills other than their formal name (Inflation Reduction Act was H.R. Also, frown upon the media or politicians giving it a nickname as well. As we see from the Inflation Reduction Act, it is projected to either increase inflation by 0.1% or decrease it by 0.1% so essentially, it has noth... | Swick_Nation | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: I am a misogynistic, bitter, angry incel please help me change my toxic views.
👉👉👉EXTRA EDIT: please read edit 10 all the way down my post. 👈👈👈
READ THIS FIRST: This might be a long post but i have a lot of toxic views and i would really like to change them. I wanna say why i feel so angry and bitter and ... | >sex at a older age isn't as enjoyable compared to doing It in your younger years.
Said literally no woman ever.
Here's something worth knowing: being a raging ball of hormones and insecurities actually doesnt make for very good sex.
You're giving vaginas too much power. Putting your dick in one wont magically mak... | If you can accept that alot of people don't actually care whether you've had sex and that you can still be respected without having sex than you are on your way to becoming a "man".
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!delta thank you for this piece of advice. It makes sense and i will definitely work on that.
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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u... | mpvo8y | CMV: I am a misogynistic, bitter, angry incel please help me change my toxic views. | 👉👉👉EXTRA EDIT: please read edit 10 all the way down my post. 👈👈👈
READ THIS FIRST: This might be a long post but i have a lot of toxic views and i would really like to change them. I wanna say why i feel so angry and bitter and misogynist. i really wanna change and improve myself and get rid of these hateful tho... | monster_zero_ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I am a misogynistic, bitter, angry incel please help me change my toxic views.
👉👉👉EXTRA EDIT: please read edit 10 all the way down my post. 👈👈👈
READ THIS FIRST: This might be a long post but i have a lot of toxic views and i would really like to change them. I wanna say why i feel so angry and bitter and ... | >sex at a older age isn't as enjoyable compared to doing It in your younger years.
Said literally no woman ever.
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You're giving vaginas too much power. Putting your dick in one wont magically mak... | First and foremost. Sex is between two consenting adults. You don’t “earn” sex from a woman. You don’t have “X” amount of cars, or money, or awards and that earns you sex. You don’t earn sex by being attractive or funny or personable. Sex is a mutual experience between two people.
With that being said, you need to sta... | mpvo8y | CMV: I am a misogynistic, bitter, angry incel please help me change my toxic views. | 👉👉👉EXTRA EDIT: please read edit 10 all the way down my post. 👈👈👈
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CMV: I am a misogynistic, bitter, angry incel please help me change my toxic views.
👉👉👉EXTRA EDIT: please read edit 10 all the way down my post. 👈👈👈
READ THIS FIRST: This might be a long post but i have a lot of toxic views and i would really like to change them. I wanna say why i feel so angry and bitter and ... | /u/monster_zero_ (OP) has awarded 11 delta(s) in this post.
All comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed [here](/r/DeltaLog/comments/mpvsmd/deltas_awarded_in_cmv_i_am_a_misogynistic_bitter/), in /r/DeltaLog.
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its called "change my view" | mpvo8y | CMV: I am a misogynistic, bitter, angry incel please help me change my toxic views. | 👉👉👉EXTRA EDIT: please read edit 10 all the way down my post. 👈👈👈
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CMV: Normalizing sex work requires normalizing propositioning people to have sex for money.
Imagine a landlord whose tenant can’t make rent one month. The landlord tells the tenant “hey, I got another unit that the previous tenants just moved out of. I need to get the place cleared out. If you help me out with that jo... | lets say my next door neighbors daughter just started college
if I offer my neighbors 18 year old daughter 20 bucks to rake leave out of my yard or 20 dollars to put my hand down her pants it is pretty easy to see the difference then right?
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This is because there is a huge difference between asking a person who has sex for money p... | 12523os | CMV: Normalizing sex work requires normalizing propositioning people to have sex for money. | Imagine a landlord whose tenant can’t make rent one month. The landlord tells the tenant “hey, I got another unit that the previous tenants just moved out of. I need to get the place cleared out. If you help me out with that job, we can skip rent this month.”
This would be socially acceptable. In fact, I think many wo... | AuroraItsNotTheTime | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Work is above all else, relationships don’t matter
Every minute you spend with family, friends, partners etc is a minute you could have spent learning a new skill or practicing.
In fact you should put 85-100 hours per week towards your work until death since non-stop improvement is the only way to be truly happy... | >Every minute you spend with family, friends, partners etc is a minute you could have spent learning a new skill or practicing.
Being social is a skill
>non-stop improvement is the only way to be truly happy.
You have no context for this value judgement. You can improve nonstop at anything, including relationships
... | One day you’re gonna get ready to die and find your suit and tie friends don’t give a shit about your funeral plans as much as the people who love you
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Or your wealth will be inherited by the government | wrnub4 | CMV: Work is above all else, relationships don’t matter | Every minute you spend with family, friends, partners etc is a minute you could have spent learning a new skill or practicing.
In fact you should put 85-100 hours per week towards your work until death since non-stop improvement is the only way to be truly happy. With everything else you’ll be constantly thinking abou... | FormerAssociate4522 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I'm a dual UK/Irish citizen against Brexit. The EU's demand for ECJ jurisdiction over a non-member sovereign UK is inappropriate and utterly colonial.
I cannot think of a democratic decision that is any more self damaging to the people who made it than Brexit... the middle classes voting for Thatcher probably was... | The ECJ has only a limited amount of power. Basically to rule, if some kind of decision of the member states (Laws, administrative acts, customs) vilates the European Treaties. No more - no less.
Currently the ECJ gets only involved if the Single Market (four freedoms) gets violated in any way.
The ECJ is neithe... | The thing is, the ECJ would have jurisdiction over issues with regards to the internal market. If the UK wants to have access to the internal market, that would mean that they need to follow the rules of the internal market. It's really simple really.
But don't worry, this would only be about the internal market, you... | 6vhqhx | CMV: I'm a dual UK/Irish citizen against Brexit. The EU's demand for ECJ jurisdiction over a non-member sovereign UK is inappropriate and utterly colonial. | I cannot think of a democratic decision that is any more self damaging to the people who made it than Brexit... the middle classes voting for Thatcher probably wasn't much better. The decision was made out of ignorance and in light of a slow-burning campaign by the right-wing press, promoting a nationalist fantasy. The... | Ireben | 14 | 10 | [
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CMV: Ranked Choice Voting would improve democracy in the United States.
This recently came about as I have been following a petition to get ranked-choice voting on the ballot in Michigan in 2026. I hadn't heard of Ranked-choice voting until last year, but the more I hear about it, the more I like it.
[What Ranked-cho... | RCV creates a spoiler effect, and that's why it's inferior to other multi choice models like STAR.
With RCV, your 2nd place vote does not get any benefit from you until your first place loses. If #2 is competitive, your #1 is holding them hostage until whatever round that your #1 finally loses.
This makes it tactica... | I do think RCV is a good idea but why do you think it will increase democracy or why the current system is not democratic.
There are negatives of the current system but it is still democratic
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I think that whatever negatives RCV has, it is worse under the current system. You might get the same result in a ranked-... | 1mbvzww | CMV: Ranked Choice Voting would improve democracy in the United States. | This recently came about as I have been following a petition to get ranked-choice voting on the ballot in Michigan in 2026. I hadn't heard of Ranked-choice voting until last year, but the more I hear about it, the more I like it.
[What Ranked-choice voting is if you don't know (second paragraph)](https://rankmivote.or... | Hermeslost | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Use of deadly force is allowed in self defense against serious harm. Therefore abortion is self defense.
I'll keep this technical to make it clear, but I know there is much more then technicalities involved when it comes to this topic.
My view: Abortion (typically) meets the legal requirements as "self defense u... | This is more akin to you can't force your brother to give you a kidney if he's a match.
You can't murder someone on perceived possible harm.
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> You can't murder someone on perceived possible harm.
If that perception is "reasonable" and the possible harm is "Serious Personal Injury," then, you can kill the pe... | There's a rather large caveat here. Except in instances of rape, the person using the self defense put the person committing the "attack" in a position where they could literally do nothing but "attack" and they need to "attack" to live.
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Right. Intent doesn't matter. If one person attacks you in order to live, y... | 124pgnh | CMV: Use of deadly force is allowed in self defense against serious harm. Therefore abortion is self defense. | I'll keep this technical to make it clear, but I know there is much more then technicalities involved when it comes to this topic.
My view: Abortion (typically) meets the legal requirements as "self defense using deadly force."
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CMV: the Confederacy should have been allowed to secede.
We’ve seen the horrible government response from the attempted secession in Catalonia, but I believe that the Confederacy leaving being treated in the same way should provoke the same outrage.
I expect that the main argument against my point is the topic of sl... | Part of my personal issue with this line of thought is that it sets a dangerous precedent for further disputes. One of the reasons that the south seceded was that they didn't get the President that they wanted. [Pictured Here](https://theboard.byu.edu/media/attached_files/r_143504/1860%20actual.png)
Basically they did... | Do you believe it is appropriate to participate in a national election, cast votes for an office, and then stay in the country if your preferred candidate wins, but secede if your preferred candidate loses?
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I expect that the main argument against my point is the topic of slavery, but official legal abolishment was growing in popul... | legspert9 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: French Canadians are Latin Americans.
Latin America is a group of countries and dependencies in the Western Hemisphere where Romance languages such as Spanish, Portuguese, and French are predominantly spoken.
This is the working definition I am using that is the first sentence off Wikipedia. The dictionary de... | Regardless of whether you have some case for being technically correct, the thing is that the dictionary.com definition you think is "wrong" is what the majority of people, including actual Latin Americans, take "Latin America" to mean.
If someone tells you they're from Latin America, and you say me too, and in the co... | >I believe this definition is inaccurate because the border between the United States is a fairly arbitrary definition.
Ok, but the border between Quebec and Mexico is much less arbitrary. There is an entire country and like 3,000 km between them. On top of that Quebec and french canada has it's very own and unique c... | dtzsyc | CMV: French Canadians are Latin Americans. | Latin America is a group of countries and dependencies in the Western Hemisphere where Romance languages such as Spanish, Portuguese, and French are predominantly spoken.
This is the working definition I am using that is the first sentence off Wikipedia. The dictionary definition on dictionary dot com is the follow... | claireapple | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The United States should break up into 4-5 countries
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Most countries have this. It's pretty common for rural areas to be more conservative.
Don't you think splitting up the US would send a terrible message about com... | g650tl | CMV: The United States should break up into 4-5 countries | The United States used to be a great nation where most states were united and working toward a common goal and in agreement with each other. This however has changed IMO, due to the rise of the internet and it’s ability to present information to people almost instantaneously. In addition social media has promised to gi... | stceSAINTSgift16 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Kyle Rittenhouse went looking for a fight just like most people going to protests and riots.
Kyle Rittenhouse went looking for a fight just like most people going to protests and riots.
He just happened to kill two people so everyone is so ready to say either “he’s a POS racist killer” or “he was in his right t... | > just like most people going to protests and riots.
You're saying \*most\* people who attend the BLM protests are looking for violence? Why?
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He just happened to kill two people so everyone is so ready to say either “he’s a POS racist killer” or “he was in his right to defend himself as he was being attacked”.
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CMV: Kristi Noem is right that meat-eaters should not be so enraged over her shooting Cricket.
[https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fnguyenbryan2016%2Fstatus%2F1788921559098491311&psig=AOvVaw3Na7HGYFcu3ufHVXVOtvqe&ust=1716733098436000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCNC\_v... | Whether people think what she did is morally bad is irrelevant, we don't get to judge her soul.
What we're doing is evaluating her positions on the issues *and her character as a person* to decide if we want her to be one heart attack away from being the leader of the free world.
You may have a point about shooting a... | Did she eat the dog? No? Okay then I think it’s different.
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I think this comment wraps it up nicely
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So you think the public would have been okay with her shooting her puppy then eating it? | 1d0d28h | CMV: Kristi Noem is right that meat-eaters should not be so enraged over her shooting Cricket. | [https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fnguyenbryan2016%2Fstatus%2F1788921559098491311&psig=AOvVaw3Na7HGYFcu3ufHVXVOtvqe&ust=1716733098436000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCNC\_vKX\_qIYDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fnguyen... | Sad_Bad9968 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Strict regulations of civilian automatic gun ownership will do more good than harm.
I think civilian ownership of automatic guns with high capacity magazines should be strictly regulated. I know this is a highly politicized issue... but I personally don't think there is anything wrong with a stricter gun ownershi... | What is your understanding of the current regulations on automatic weapons in the U.S.? What would you propose that would make them stricter?
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My understanding of ownership transfer process for pre 1986 guns is limited. While a lot of people says that it's a very difficult, lengthy and costly process... but I'm un... | [deleted]
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My understanding is that you can't buy new ones, but you can still transfer ownership for automatic guns legally owned prior to 1986. I think the transfer needs to go through an approval process, but I don't know what that process look like.
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CMV: Strict regulations of civilian automatic gun ownership will do more good than harm.
I think civilian ownership of automatic guns with high capacity magazines should be strictly regulated. I know this is a highly politicized issue... but I personally don't think there is anything wrong with a stricter gun ownershi... | What is your understanding of the current regulations on automatic weapons in the U.S.? What would you propose that would make them stricter?
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My understanding of ownership transfer process for pre 1986 guns is limited. While a lot of people says that it's a very difficult, lengthy and costly process... but I'm un... | I'm not sure exactly what view you're holding here, because automatic weapons are strictly regulated in almost every jurisdiction.
Do you mean semi-automatic, like an AR-15? Because people get confused about this point all the time...
At which point, it becomes nearly all modern firearms...
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I mean guns that yo... | 73u712 | CMV: Strict regulations of civilian automatic gun ownership will do more good than harm. | I think civilian ownership of automatic guns with high capacity magazines should be strictly regulated. I know this is a highly politicized issue... but I personally don't think there is anything wrong with a stricter gun ownership regulation that can help make make mass killing more difficult for people with malicious... | Hsintoot | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There should be an age limit for elected political officials.
There should be an age limit in the United States which prevents people over a certain age from being elected into high powered political offices. For example, senators and house representatives as well as the presidency. The current average age for a ... | How will this age limit change as human life spans continue to increase? How would you deal with people who age badly verses people who age well? some people start to mentally deteriorate decades ahead of others. A 40 year old riddled with diseases due to obesity and bad luck is much less fit than a 60 or 70 year old i... | Senility can and does vary wildly in how it affects individuals.
There are 50 year olds that cannot care for themselves and 100 year olds that have not lost significant cognitive function.
It is the place of the electorate to judge if a candidate is too feeble to serve in a given elected possition, and if events (suc... | 7793ef | CMV: There should be an age limit for elected political officials. | There should be an age limit in the United States which prevents people over a certain age from being elected into high powered political offices. For example, senators and house representatives as well as the presidency. The current average age for a United States President is 55 years and 6 months old. However, only ... | thepackwantsthed | 8 | 5 | [
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CMV: Religions may be bad, but Hinduism is the worst religion in the world, definitely worse than Abrahamic ones
Yes, the most peaceful religion, Hinduism, is actually a horrible and the WORST religion and that is my thesis and I will prove it to you.
1. Divorce and treatment of widows - Hinduism does not have l... | Have you considered Shinto? These days, Japan has become much more progressive, but in its traditional forms, Shintoism was used to justify similar practices, intense sexism, a caste system, and even human sacrifice. What I would argue makes it worse is the focus on ritual purity to the exception of almost everything e... | Is Hinduism missionary in your opinion? What about other religions? Which is preferable?
Has Hinduism been used as an excuse to go to war? What about other religions?
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> Is Hinduism missionary in your opinion?
No. Most of Hinduism is esoteric in nature so it was never really missionary. But modern Hinduism is be... | 1d0dhon | CMV: Religions may be bad, but Hinduism is the worst religion in the world, definitely worse than Abrahamic ones |
Yes, the most peaceful religion, Hinduism, is actually a horrible and the WORST religion and that is my thesis and I will prove it to you.
1. Divorce and treatment of widows - Hinduism does not have literally any provision of divorce, and in the past times encouraged women to jump in the pyre of dead husband (not... | Notadabatahu | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Opening up bathrooms to let people choose which they are most comfortable in is not the right thing to do.
This is a post about transgender. I always see huge arguments that include a lot of bullying, typically on both sides. I'd really like to get some info and opinions from other people on this.
Edit 2: Pleas... | Why are you uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with someone of a gender that isn't yours?
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I know, "it's always been that way" is a shitty argument, but it's the truth. I grew up taught that men go in the mens room, and ladies go in the ladies room. And if your argument is that I shouldn't be uncomfortable with some... | >My view is that if this is the norm, and all you need to do to access the opposite bathroom is to *say* you identify as whichever gender is allowed in that room, you might as well remove the barriers between bathrooms altogether.
Even if this happens... what's the problem?
>I think maybe a solution to this would be ... | g63bo2 | CMV: Opening up bathrooms to let people choose which they are most comfortable in is not the right thing to do. | This is a post about transgender. I always see huge arguments that include a lot of bullying, typically on both sides. I'd really like to get some info and opinions from other people on this.
Edit 2: Please, any single part of this post does not accurately convey how I currently feel. Before commenting, read through ... | YacobJWB | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Opening up bathrooms to let people choose which they are most comfortable in is not the right thing to do.
This is a post about transgender. I always see huge arguments that include a lot of bullying, typically on both sides. I'd really like to get some info and opinions from other people on this.
Edit 2: Pleas... | Do you think that [this person ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4357700/amp/Transgender-man-shares-revealing-images.html) should be going into the ladies room?
If a person outwardly appears as male, do you still think that they should still be going into the women’s room just because t... | I don't think you understand that most trans people are scared to use the correct bathroom for them. I'm a trans man. I wanted to use the men's bathroom long before I passed as a man. (passed meaning looked like a man to others). But, going in there was scary. I wasn't sure how people would treat me. However, going int... | g63bo2 | CMV: Opening up bathrooms to let people choose which they are most comfortable in is not the right thing to do. | This is a post about transgender. I always see huge arguments that include a lot of bullying, typically on both sides. I'd really like to get some info and opinions from other people on this.
Edit 2: Please, any single part of this post does not accurately convey how I currently feel. Before commenting, read through ... | YacobJWB | 13 | 13 | [
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CMV: The man vs bear debate highlights the double standards between men and women.
When it comes to the man vs bear debate, the thing is that I don’t think we should ever worry about people’s individual opinions. And I was tired as heck about hearing about man vs bear. I was and am an advocate of letting people prefer... | I don't care if men pick the bear. How is that a double standard?
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You may not, but many people do care when men don’t want to be alone with women because of false accusation fears.
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And many people clearly care about women not wanting to be alone with men either. So? | You didn't get it huh?
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What do you mean?
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That it was a hypothetical? | 1d0ckqi | CMV: The man vs bear debate highlights the double standards between men and women. | When it comes to the man vs bear debate, the thing is that I don’t think we should ever worry about people’s individual opinions. And I was tired as heck about hearing about man vs bear. I was and am an advocate of letting people prefer what they will. If women prefer being alone with bears to men, then us men should t... | BiryaniEater10 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The wars of the arab world with Israel are the result of autocracy vs democracy, and not because of Israel staling arab land.
People these days tend to blame Israel for the Gaza war by claiming that Israel “colonized” the land. But at the end of the day this is just an excuse. The real reason for the many recent... | Let's assume everything you are saying is true. That still doesn't change the fact that Israel is the "perfect enemy" to unite Arab nationalists against *because* Israel ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from territory claimed by Israel (with violent means) and continues to today in the West Ban... | I don't think this theory works anymore, because my understanding is that most of the populations of the Arab states really hate Israel and want their governments to side with the Palestinians against Israel, but the Arab states themselves (e.g. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia) want stable relations with Israel (with some ... | 1fd3s7x | CMV: The wars of the arab world with Israel are the result of autocracy vs democracy, and not because of Israel staling arab land. | People these days tend to blame Israel for the Gaza war by claiming that Israel “colonized” the land. But at the end of the day this is just an excuse. The real reason for the many recent wars in the middle east is that the arab world (Palestine included) is run by religious autocrats. Autocracy is extremely inefficien... | Braincyclopedia | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Criminals deserve torture equivalent to their crime.
I dont see why its too 'malicious' Minor crimes like theft only gets you beatings or whippings. But stuff like murder actually gets proper punishment like torture. That sounds good doesnt it?
Let me walk through my mindset and thought process at least. The cri... | So what happens when someone is found guilty incorrectly and ends up with their feet being sawn off when they where innocent in the first place?
You cant exactly roll back things like that.
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Thats a justice system problem not a prison problem. Sure the torture makes it worse but theres innocent people that are fa... | This sort of thing has a tendency to increase the severity of committed crimes. Say someone robs someone - they don't want to get whipped, and if they let the person go their chances of getting caught increase, so the robbery turns into a murder. [More sever punishments do not "chasten" invidivuals convicted of crime... | 1cz1l13 | CMV: Criminals deserve torture equivalent to their crime. | I dont see why its too 'malicious' Minor crimes like theft only gets you beatings or whippings. But stuff like murder actually gets proper punishment like torture. That sounds good doesnt it?
Let me walk through my mindset and thought process at least. The criminal gets to exploit and enjoy life however they want. Sex... | theassassin53035 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The 2nd amendment is not a good defense of gun ownership.
The text of the 2nd amendment is as follows:
>A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
To me this sounds like the only reason listed by the bill of r... | The argument, and I'm just playing devil's advocate, is that "the security of a free state" is interpreted as meaning from threats internal as well as external.
IE We need guns in case the gubbmint gets uppity.
I don't agree, but that's the argument.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but you're saying that the arg... | Gun ownership is the ONLY right of ownership listed in a document meant to determine how our country is run. Not horse ownership, not home ownership, it was the one thing they thought important enough to clearly spell out that ownership should be allowed. I think that’s more than enough proof that it should remain leg... | 73w7hm | CMV: The 2nd amendment is not a good defense of gun ownership. | The text of the 2nd amendment is as follows:
>A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
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Cmv: it should be a requirement to have any cat or dog desexed to own one. Only entities that train working dogs should be allowed to breed
Purely based off the amount of dogs and cats that get put down at the vet every day because of a lack of space.
People breeding dogs is actually disgusting. Because you wanted to... | What’s the problem with dogs being put down? No one wants them, right? When a cow isn’t wanted anymore it gets put down.
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I love dogs, I want a better life for them then being born, put in a dog version of jail, being killed then added to a pile.
This happens so much more then it needs to because people want to m... | The picture you paint of dog breeders isn't accurate for all cases. My brother has a German Shepherd he breeds less than once a year. The puppies grow up in his house with a backyard and plenty of love and attention until they are sold to local families.
The people you describe are abusing dogs. If you don't want peop... | 1czwttm | Cmv: it should be a requirement to have any cat or dog desexed to own one. Only entities that train working dogs should be allowed to breed | Purely based off the amount of dogs and cats that get put down at the vet every day because of a lack of space.
People breeding dogs is actually disgusting. Because you wanted to make a couple thousand dollars now about 10 more dogs are going to die in a cold concrete cell without any real life.
There are still enou... | OtiseMaleModel | 11 | 11 | [
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CMV: Homosexual behavior is almost always disordered, and local laws criminalizing it or its promotion, at least to some extent, should not be considered human rights abuses.
I've seen stuff happening around the world lately with regard to criminalizing homosexual behavior, and some downright horrible human rights abu... | What kind of evidence would change your view?
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Well, I'm not entirely sure, so I don't want to rule anything out, but probably mostly honest, personal evidence.
I'm mostly looking for information I don't already have. I think. This post isn't completely well-formed, but I thought I'd go ahead and ask anyway sin... | Is the conclusion of what you're saying that homosexual relationships should be treated as a disorder because they are pointless in terms of procreation and that if someone is homosexual that is changeable and ought to be changed?
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* I don't think people *are* homosexual. I think people *engage in homose... | 73oea7 | CMV: Homosexual behavior is almost always disordered, and local laws criminalizing it or its promotion, at least to some extent, should not be considered human rights abuses. | I've seen stuff happening around the world lately with regard to criminalizing homosexual behavior, and some downright horrible human rights abuses happening.
I think homosexual behavior is usually fundamentally disordered, if I'm honest with myself. I think relationships should be respected. I think free speech is ... | SometmesWrongMotives | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Homosexual behavior is almost always disordered, and local laws criminalizing it or its promotion, at least to some extent, should not be considered human rights abuses.
I've seen stuff happening around the world lately with regard to criminalizing homosexual behavior, and some downright horrible human rights abu... | Homosexually behavior does no harm to anybody. Why should behavior between two consenting adults be criminalized just because people who don't engage in it don't want to engage in it?
---
Well, a few responses:
* it's allowed to be criminalized for cultural reasons or whatever if people like, if it's not a human rig... | I'm not sure I understand your view.
>I don't think homosexual partnerships are like fertile, sex(in the sense of the two sexes)-ual, procreation-based marriages. (And no, those aren't defined by their edge-cases, I don't really want to discuss infertile couples or whatever.)
Not like them in what way?
---
Well, si... | 73oea7 | CMV: Homosexual behavior is almost always disordered, and local laws criminalizing it or its promotion, at least to some extent, should not be considered human rights abuses. | I've seen stuff happening around the world lately with regard to criminalizing homosexual behavior, and some downright horrible human rights abuses happening.
I think homosexual behavior is usually fundamentally disordered, if I'm honest with myself. I think relationships should be respected. I think free speech is ... | SometmesWrongMotives | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Homosexual behavior is almost always disordered, and local laws criminalizing it or its promotion, at least to some extent, should not be considered human rights abuses.
I've seen stuff happening around the world lately with regard to criminalizing homosexual behavior, and some downright horrible human rights abu... | I feel like all the legitimate arguments have been covered by other people, but since you asked for personal anecdotes:
I'm a lesbian, and I have a wife who I'm very much in love with. We do have sex, and since we're both women it's "disordered, non-procreative" sex. But "disordered" sexual activity is actually a rela... | Is the conclusion of what you're saying that homosexual relationships should be treated as a disorder because they are pointless in terms of procreation and that if someone is homosexual that is changeable and ought to be changed?
---
Well,
* I don't think people *are* homosexual. I think people *engage in homose... | 73oea7 | CMV: Homosexual behavior is almost always disordered, and local laws criminalizing it or its promotion, at least to some extent, should not be considered human rights abuses. | I've seen stuff happening around the world lately with regard to criminalizing homosexual behavior, and some downright horrible human rights abuses happening.
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CMV: Homosexual behavior is almost always disordered, and local laws criminalizing it or its promotion, at least to some extent, should not be considered human rights abuses.
I've seen stuff happening around the world lately with regard to criminalizing homosexual behavior, and some downright horrible human rights abu... | A lot of your views are based on your own erroneous interpretation of what homosexuality is. Perhaps you should take the time to have a conversation with a gay person?
---
> Perhaps you should take the time to have a conversation with a gay person?
That's what I'm trying to do with this thread. As I stated in OP, I... | I'm not sure I understand your view.
>I don't think homosexual partnerships are like fertile, sex(in the sense of the two sexes)-ual, procreation-based marriages. (And no, those aren't defined by their edge-cases, I don't really want to discuss infertile couples or whatever.)
Not like them in what way?
---
Well, si... | 73oea7 | CMV: Homosexual behavior is almost always disordered, and local laws criminalizing it or its promotion, at least to some extent, should not be considered human rights abuses. | I've seen stuff happening around the world lately with regard to criminalizing homosexual behavior, and some downright horrible human rights abuses happening.
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CMV: You should not censor yourself
Now, this idea has been going through my head for a while now, but a [recent post](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/ik3tuq/cmv_saying_the_r_word_is_different_from_saying/) now prompted me to actually make it a post.
For the first half of that post, I had no idea what ... | It’s a way of indicating you’re sensitive to the offensiveness of a term, even when you need to use the term in a particular context.
It is not about protecting sensitive ears from hearing a certain word, it’s a way of signalling one’s own sensitivity to the way a word may be received.
As such, it serves an *additi... | When the act of censoring itself is an indicator of your feelings/views/ideology, why would one not censor oneself? All we have is this medium to communicate.
---
I would agree that this might be valid for option 1 words, but not option 2. If what you're saying isn't understandable then what is even the point of talk... | ik8gr5 | CMV: You should not censor yourself | Now, this idea has been going through my head for a while now, but a [recent post](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/ik3tuq/cmv_saying_the_r_word_is_different_from_saying/) now prompted me to actually make it a post.
For the first half of that post, I had no idea what OP was even talking about.
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CMV: Circumcision is straight up genital mutilation, no different than female genital mutilation, and should be banned by law.
The foreskin is a necessary and natural part of the human body. It contains 80% of the nerve endings in the penis. It is the main sexual area of the penis, the primary erogenous zone. Cutting ... | So, accepting that the whole “80% of the nerve endings” canard is one that you can’t source and have no reason to believe, we’re left with two questions:
(1). What is the actual harm?
Well, that’s a tough one, since we can’t actually have someone who was circumcised as an infant compare their pleasure (or ease of ple... | > It is the main sexual area of the penis, the primary erogenous zone. Cutting off the foreskin is no different than cutting of the clitoris.
Yes, circumcision is bad but comparing it to FGM is laughably immature.
Cutting the clitoris is equivalent to cutting the head of the penis and leaving behind the bottom stalk... | 770sc4 | CMV: Circumcision is straight up genital mutilation, no different than female genital mutilation, and should be banned by law. | The foreskin is a necessary and natural part of the human body. It contains 80% of the nerve endings in the penis. It is the main sexual area of the penis, the primary erogenous zone. Cutting off the foreskin is no different than cutting of the clitoris. Yes, you can still have sex without a clitoris, but it's nowhere ... | demonsquidgod | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Circumcision is straight up genital mutilation, no different than female genital mutilation, and should be banned by law.
The foreskin is a necessary and natural part of the human body. It contains 80% of the nerve endings in the penis. It is the main sexual area of the penis, the primary erogenous zone. Cutting ... | Firstly, the nerve endings statistics are horseshit - between the history of those counts and the fact that we have 7 different kinds of nerve endings that are not differentiated in ANY of the studies that count them, we simply don't know how much of overall sensitivity is related to the foreskin. I'm not sure it shou... | So just a banning for children then, not adults?
What medical procedures would you allow a parent to allow a doctor perform for children?
---
> What medical procedures would you allow a parent to allow a doctor perform for children?
Not OP, but also believe circumcision for children should be banned. What medical... | 770sc4 | CMV: Circumcision is straight up genital mutilation, no different than female genital mutilation, and should be banned by law. | The foreskin is a necessary and natural part of the human body. It contains 80% of the nerve endings in the penis. It is the main sexual area of the penis, the primary erogenous zone. Cutting off the foreskin is no different than cutting of the clitoris. Yes, you can still have sex without a clitoris, but it's nowhere ... | demonsquidgod | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: The toilet genders should be "safe" (sitting in separate stalls with camera surveillance) "private" (sitting in separate stalls without surveillance) and "standing" (with urinals)
I have not yet decided whether the cameras should have surveillance. On one hand, i don't mind being filmed from behind while peeing, ... | Your idea sounds already dystopian in theory and even more dystopian in reality.
Why in the world does a toilet stall need surveillance is beyond me, and no amount of arguing about the privacy practices will ever triumph over the reality of government's mass surveillance as time proved again and again.
---
Yup, it i... | This is trying to solve a problem that only exists in the heads of people who will not be reasoned into a solution.
---
But those people can go to the surveilled toilet, if they feel like it.
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The toilet will be used once a year | 1nxt5hp | CMV: The toilet genders should be "safe" (sitting in separate stalls with camera surveillance) "private" (sitting in separate stalls without surveillance) and "standing" (with urinals) | I have not yet decided whether the cameras should have surveillance. On one hand, i don't mind being filmed from behind while peeing, as long as noone will watch the tape, on the other hand i might be a minority with that feeling.
To clarify: The camera recording is overwritten after 72 hours, and can by law only be a... | MarryRgnvldrKillLgrd | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:2nd amendment absolutists are dangerous.
There is a section of the US populace which believe the Constitution must be taken literally every time. This of course is under the fallacy that the writers of the Constitution were infallible.
Most dangerous of them are the 2nd amendment absolutists, the ones who think t... | The rights enshrined in the constitutional were meant to be taken very serious, they are checks against the government (of which the government has already massively overstepped). Being an absolutist about checking the governments power is not dangerous, it is in fact quite the opposite. Your state of "therefore flood ... | You haven't really left any room for debate here, but I'll try anyway for sport.
What makes someone who wants to be allowed to own an unlimited amount of guns with seemingly limitless capability? The guns are not the issue as much as the individual who possesses these guns. There is fundamentally nothing wrong about w... | 7706fo | CMV:2nd amendment absolutists are dangerous. | There is a section of the US populace which believe the Constitution must be taken literally every time. This of course is under the fallacy that the writers of the Constitution were infallible.
Most dangerous of them are the 2nd amendment absolutists, the ones who think the NRA is weak on gun rights. You can see them... | Emperor2kings | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: Purchasing meat and dairy is supporting animal abuse
There are a few stipulations I would like to add. While I do think purchasing meat and dairy, in virtually all cases, is animal abuse, there are a few exceptions. Obviously if someone purchases roadkill that is an exception, but this almost never happens, and i... | Do you consider animals eating other animals also abusive?
Some people cured many health problems by cutting out plant food. While when they eat plants they get severe autoimmune reactions. I’m one of those people who gets such reactions. And I also want to try to cut plants completely. My blood glucose jumps to 200 i... | > comes from animals which were abused specifically to extract that food for profit.
Do you think that it is possible to extract food from animal in a non-abusive way *at all*? Aside from roadkill that is.
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with Private Equity liquidating companies.
I was recently reading about the [Red Lobster bankruptcy](https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/23/spineless/#invertebrates) and it seemed like many people were upset at the role private equity (PE) firms played.
Most people have no problem with unpr... | This is bad for the employees who have to look for a job for no other reason than some rich people want to get richer. This is bad for people who like Red Lobster and are upset that one of their favorite restaurants is closing because some rich people want to get richer. This is bad for everyone who understands the iss... | >What would most likely change my mind is an argument that this is bad for the economy or consumers.
Well the people who liked Red Lobster food are certainly worse off here.
End of CMV, give Delta.
---
I feel like most people bothered by this dont even like red lobster (if they even tried it).
Is this one of the ... | 1cz8zpg | CMV: There is nothing wrong with Private Equity liquidating companies. | I was recently reading about the [Red Lobster bankruptcy](https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/23/spineless/#invertebrates) and it seemed like many people were upset at the role private equity (PE) firms played.
Most people have no problem with unprofitable & mismanaged companies going out of business. However, they do ... | S1artibartfast666 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: In the future, we should have a privacy-focused AI research initiative to identify and end violence and crime.
What I mean is that in 5-10 years(or more), when AI is advanced enough to identify and understand with 99.9%+ accuracy exactly what people are doing, we should have them monitoring us worldwide, of cours... |
What happens if the AI is wrong
I don't believe we should create AI because it will contribute to the technological singularity
If you don't know what that is it is the point when technology is self progressing faster than we (humans) are progressing it
This is bad because we have lost control over where it will g... | Well, the biggest issue with your proposal is the fact that we have no idea how to create an AI like you are suggesting. We can't even develop models that predict _the weather_ more than a couple of days in advance due to the number of variables involved and such a model would be near infinity simpler than a model tha... | 73tqpu | CMV: In the future, we should have a privacy-focused AI research initiative to identify and end violence and crime. | What I mean is that in 5-10 years(or more), when AI is advanced enough to identify and understand with 99.9%+ accuracy exactly what people are doing, we should have them monitoring us worldwide, of course without any human being able to access the recordings. Why?
... | AnimeVRexpert | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The entire Wizarding World across the Harry Potter universe is just run by a collection of magical dictatorships and they are all frightening.
So I've been stewing on these thoughts for a few years but a post in /r/harrypotter finally pushed me to type it all out.
The entire Wizarding World across the Harry Pot... | I honestly can't think of any book i read that fell under YA and was able to stand up to any kind of scrutiny re its worldbuilding.
Someone may be able to formulate a set of excuses to argue with you, but really isn't this like complaining that winnie the pooh doesn't wear pants you can't see his plushie little bear j... | >It is truly frightening how much we all just glossed over that as children.
Ah yes, my 11 years old reading about world of magic, disgusted by the lack of properly set government.
Harry Potter is what it is, wizarding world aimed mostly at children and young adults. Its nowhere near perfect, its also not consistent... | 10nivk6 | CMV: The entire Wizarding World across the Harry Potter universe is just run by a collection of magical dictatorships and they are all frightening. | So I've been stewing on these thoughts for a few years but a post in /r/harrypotter finally pushed me to type it all out.
The entire Wizarding World across the Harry Potter universe is just run by a collection of magical dictatorships and J. K. Rowling just casually writes countless systems of governance that would b... | theyoyomaster | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Biden should refuse to debate.
There is nothing to gain within the constraints of the current format, and — given the nature of the electorate and the opponent — too much to lose. I am convinced that the format is tailor-made to heavily favor whoever is comfortable with lying, ignoring rules, reciting punch lines... | Can't you just see the line Trump's campaign will take:
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Biden is a few years older then Trump, and we *do* have results from a basic cognitive screen during the most recent presidential health examination, showing Trump doesn't show signs of ... | Debate is a fundamental aspect of the political process, or rather it should be; ideally it is the synthesis of opposing viewpoints into some fashion of common ground. One of the most common criticism of American politics of the last decade is that such debate is no longer possible, that the interest of party is now pr... | ik3k87 | CMV: Biden should refuse to debate. | There is nothing to gain within the constraints of the current format, and — given the nature of the electorate and the opponent — too much to lose. I am convinced that the format is tailor-made to heavily favor whoever is comfortable with lying, ignoring rules, reciting punch lines, and ignoring any boundaries of priv... | scorpious | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Voting for Biden this year will lead to more radicalized yet lawful movement over Trump or third party candidates
I think many left leaning individuals are being too didactic. There is power in diversity but also can be conflicting and chaotic. The right-wingers are able to get radicalized due to “PC culture” aga... | > That being said, I do not want to throw away my vote in the event Trump wins and Project 25 will remove all safety nets for any type of radicalized movement.
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If I don’t vote at all this time around and Trump wins th... | I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying but let me know if this is a TLDR:
If Biden is elected Trump supporters will accept the results peacefully but either move further to the right or pursue third party candidates?
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Oh hell nah haha given how Jan. 7 went, they probably will give a radical response r... | 1cz6rog | CMV: Voting for Biden this year will lead to more radicalized yet lawful movement over Trump or third party candidates | I think many left leaning individuals are being too didactic. There is power in diversity but also can be conflicting and chaotic. The right-wingers are able to get radicalized due to “PC culture” against the majority demographic they are aiming for. The loud-mouthed and stereotypical ignorant. I clearly have never ali... | PickNo2380 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: When debating, I don't think personal anecdotes should be used.
First let's define personal anecdote. Basically a short excerpt about your own life experiences that's relevant to your argument used to illustrate one of your argument's points.
Now some groups like to use personal anecdotes more than others. Not g... | How about we define debate first. People may debate for various reasons, in some of those situations, personal anecdotes may be the only thing that matters. What debate contexts and for what purposes are you envisioning?
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Like if I was hanging out with friends casually and we started debating a topic. Where as a formal debate would be if I went to a formal event based on debating. | 1nxoovk | CMV: When debating, I don't think personal anecdotes should be used. | First let's define personal anecdote. Basically a short excerpt about your own life experiences that's relevant to your argument used to illustrate one of your argument's points.
Now some groups like to use personal anecdotes more than others. Not going to name who here as that's irrelevant to this discussion, but the... | ElegantPoet3386 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I think in the ideal life, you should never be killing time.
I think that you should only try to become more successful, and never do things that kill time.
If the purpose of life is happiness, then the best way to be happy should be to keep on getting more accomplishments and becoming more successful, because yo... | There is increasing evidence that zoning out is good for you. And zoning out is just killing time.
https://scitechdaily.com/according-to-scientists-zoning-out-could-actually-help-you-learn/
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I think that if it would make you more successful, that would be good. But does zoning out instea... | >If the purpose of life is happiness, then the best way to be happy should be to keep on getting more accomplishments and becoming more successful
but what about just... being happy? isnt it more efficient to just be happy in the moment if the goal is to be happy?
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I think no. Take drugs for example. It makes you... | 1nx31t6 | CMV: I think in the ideal life, you should never be killing time. | I think that you should only try to become more successful, and never do things that kill time.
If the purpose of life is happiness, then the best way to be happy should be to keep on getting more accomplishments and becoming more successful, because your brain evolved in a way such that things that make you more fit s... | WLZ0819 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: As porn currently exists in North America, people cannot properly consent to it
First, I just want to provide an example of something in which there is informed consent.
A pack of cigarettes in Canada has pictures of different cancers on the carton and words that inform you about the addictive nature and dangers... | I guess this is why we have those "do not drink this product" signs on motor oil and such.
Things that used to be common sense.... are now having to be implicitly stated.
Pretty soon lighters will have a mandatory "fire can burn you" sign on it.
At some point it becomes ridiculous and we look like clowns not adult... | Do you expect a disclaimer on everything? You are using social media, do you want a disclaimer every time you use it?
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Yes. On every video. If not, every 3 videos. Or at the very least before you enter the website. But NO DISCLAIMER can’t stand.
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You expect a disclaimer on everything you do?
If this is your... | 1nwx58v | CMV: As porn currently exists in North America, people cannot properly consent to it | First, I just want to provide an example of something in which there is informed consent.
A pack of cigarettes in Canada has pictures of different cancers on the carton and words that inform you about the addictive nature and dangers of smoking. Cigarette companies never used to have that and actually lied to people a... | RavenReid666 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Calling out Black Americans for "Acting White" is Racist
Based on a recent CMV I made, a lot of people seem to suggest that it's acceptable to call a black American who speaks "white" English "acting white" or "kow-towing" to white culture.
Similarly, I have also read articles and seen media interviews where a b... | So I've thought a bit about how to respond to this, because I don't agree with calling out black people who are just living their lives. So I'm hoping to provide some context behind this mentality and help you understand a bit more about where these people are coming from.
For many black people, mainstream (white) soc... | Do you think it would have been anti-Semitic to criticize a Jew in Nazi Germany who supported Hitler?
If so, how is it different?
It's not about conformity - in the opinion of those who are doing the criticizing, those on the right are actively working to harm African Americans. Whether it's a valid point can be a... | 73smu1 | CMV: Calling out Black Americans for "Acting White" is Racist | Based on a recent CMV I made, a lot of people seem to suggest that it's acceptable to call a black American who speaks "white" English "acting white" or "kow-towing" to white culture.
Similarly, I have also read articles and seen media interviews where a black conservative would be criticized for being an "Uncle Tom" ... | dickposner | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Calling out Black Americans for "Acting White" is Racist
Based on a recent CMV I made, a lot of people seem to suggest that it's acceptable to call a black American who speaks "white" English "acting white" or "kow-towing" to white culture.
Similarly, I have also read articles and seen media interviews where a b... | So I've thought a bit about how to respond to this, because I don't agree with calling out black people who are just living their lives. So I'm hoping to provide some context behind this mentality and help you understand a bit more about where these people are coming from.
For many black people, mainstream (white) soc... | Do you think it would have been anti-Semitic to criticize a Jew in Nazi Germany who supported Hitler?
If so, how is it different?
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Based on a recent CMV I made, a lot of people seem to suggest that it's acceptable to call a black American who speaks "white" English "acting white" or "kow-towing" to white culture.
Similarly, I have also read articles and seen media interviews where a b... | So I've thought a bit about how to respond to this, because I don't agree with calling out black people who are just living their lives. So I'm hoping to provide some context behind this mentality and help you understand a bit more about where these people are coming from.
For many black people, mainstream (white) soc... | Do you think it would have been anti-Semitic to criticize a Jew in Nazi Germany who supported Hitler?
If so, how is it different?
It's not about conformity - in the opinion of those who are doing the criticizing, those on the right are actively working to harm African Americans. Whether it's a valid point can be a... | 73smu1 | CMV: Calling out Black Americans for "Acting White" is Racist | Based on a recent CMV I made, a lot of people seem to suggest that it's acceptable to call a black American who speaks "white" English "acting white" or "kow-towing" to white culture.
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CMV: There are no "professional assasins"
At least not in the popular view. There are people who take money to kill people but they are people who don't know what they are doing and don't mind killing someone and risking prison to make a buck. They are not elite professionals who kill and leave behind no trace or ma... | They definitely exist but no they're not like John Wick someone like that is way to hard to cover up. But various mob groups have had guys whose entire jobs were killing specific people.
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I said that essentially. There are mob guys who do it but in the end everyone knows the mob killed this person they just can't... | what do you think JSOC/SAS does?
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There is nothing like a Hitman type figure that goes to parties and dresses up in a full tux and still manages to catch and kill bad guys.
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What do you think the clandestine services do? Or Delta?
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Do they go to parties dressed in suits and chase down bad guys?
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If ... | 1nv8b95 | CMV: There are no "professional assasins" | At least not in the popular view. There are people who take money to kill people but they are people who don't know what they are doing and don't mind killing someone and risking prison to make a buck. They are not elite professionals who kill and leave behind no trace or make it look like a suicide/accident.
There ... | PopularSet4776 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: the American presidential election would be a lot more fair and reasonable if we voted based on policy rather than people.
Title kinda says it all, but elections are generally popularity contests. Prior to the last several elections (and the current one), videos came out where voters were questioned on how they f... | Wjo gets to enact these policies we vote on? The presidents actual constitutional role is execution and enforcement of laws put forward by the legislature, and crisis management. So its the actual individual that is most important in that role.
Also in general you're basically just describing a referendum style of dir... | Less people would vote. That isn’t more fair.
Why would less people vote?
Because people do not have the time (and frankly effort) to go out and vote on every issue. New issues pop up once a week at least. There just is not time to most people to vote once a week.
Also did that interview go over every issue. Some... | ijpbah | CMV: the American presidential election would be a lot more fair and reasonable if we voted based on policy rather than people. | Title kinda says it all, but elections are generally popularity contests. Prior to the last several elections (and the current one), videos came out where voters were questioned on how they feel about certain issues; gay marriage, welfare, corporate bailout, taxes, trans rights, etc. Several people said they agreed wit... | The_Riverbank_Robber | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: "Demilitarize the police" makes more sense as a slogan than "defund the police"
The classic rationale for defunding the police is that they shouldn't need armored vehicles and the latest military gear to enforce law and order. Sure, but the vibe of "defund" means that you are going to restrict police's access to ... | One aspect I like of the "defund" over "demilitarize" wording, is that it has a direct action associated with it: take the money away.
This is why all the cops are whining, cause their dollars are in jeopardy. What's sad is they are pulling back instead of stepping up. It only reinforces the need to scrap and replace... | People who say “defund the police” *do* want to restrict police’s access to *money* in general.
They don’t want better training; they want the role of police to be significantly rolled back, or even eliminated.
Police are abusive in South Korea and the UK, too, and discriminatory. The only difference is they have le... | ijswek | CMV: "Demilitarize the police" makes more sense as a slogan than "defund the police" | The classic rationale for defunding the police is that they shouldn't need armored vehicles and the latest military gear to enforce law and order. Sure, but the vibe of "defund" means that you are going to restrict police's access to *money* in general - money that can be spent on training for nonlethal deescalation me... | BingBlessAmerica | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:A Universal Basic Income is an unsustainable proposal which will degrade social services and justify poverty
I understand that job scarcity and income inequality are pressing issues which need to be addressed. However, I fail to see how a Universal Basic Income would solve these. If anything, I see this as a move ... | I don't think we are anywhere near needing UBI yet; however, I think that in the long run, it is inevitable. Right now, if your job is automated away, you have plenty of other fields to move into. This will be damaging to those effected, but not crippling to the a nation. The issue is that technology can always advance... | You seem to think that if Universal Basic Income would be implemented the money would somehow go somewhere.
The money isn't being "spent", it's not disappearing - it's in the hands of prospective consumers. People with more money to spend usually spend more money.
Higher spending power among the population stimulat... | 76mm8f | CMV:A Universal Basic Income is an unsustainable proposal which will degrade social services and justify poverty | I understand that job scarcity and income inequality are pressing issues which need to be addressed. However, I fail to see how a Universal Basic Income would solve these. If anything, I see this as a move which would relieve corporations of the duty to provide people with jobs so they can sustain themselves. And while... | alexmrb | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Only politically motivated men think about teenagers
Requires text, yet I don't want to rant...
Let's see here, gotta start this post somehow.
As far as I am concerned, no sane human being, whether male or female, would think of sexualizing teenagers and young children just for political purposes.
The military... | Does anybody have one single clue what this person is talking about? Even a *little* bit?
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The random jump to the military totally lost me, what is even the argument here?
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I am with yall it makes no sense. I do want to throw out there teenage years are where humans go through puberty and develop their sexual... | Are you politically motivated?
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Not really, don't have affiliation to any current political party.
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Are you a man? | 1cyi8mr | CMV: Only politically motivated men think about teenagers | Requires text, yet I don't want to rant...
Let's see here, gotta start this post somehow.
As far as I am concerned, no sane human being, whether male or female, would think of sexualizing teenagers and young children just for political purposes.
The military 'claims' to weed out incels from the ranks yet hasn't done... | Gnl_Klutzky | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: To get out of our political situation we have to stop NAME calling, be vulnerable with the desires we have, and use our emotions as a lever for connection rather than disconnection
The ad hominem fallacy**: Focus on the person, not the argument:** The goal is to redirect the conversation from the topic at hand to... | >It sounds so much sillier when one side stops saying these very childish names and instead follows a more concise evidence based story. I believe the first will be brave, and the second will follow so as not to look silly.
Don't know where you're tuning in from, but Dems/progressives/not conservative or MAGA tried... | okay but what if the republicans actually are this or the democrats actually are that
do you think pretending something isn't patently true will make it not affect us?
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Nothing is patently true because there is no objective truth. Name calling doesn't engage anyone in dialogue, it pushes them away. If we want to ... | 1nwozy3 | CMV: To get out of our political situation we have to stop NAME calling, be vulnerable with the desires we have, and use our emotions as a lever for connection rather than disconnection | The ad hominem fallacy**: Focus on the person, not the argument:** The goal is to redirect the conversation from the topic at hand to the character or circumstances of the opponent. Constantly in the news (on either side) we hear "the Republicans are this..." and "the Dems are that..."
It sounds so much sillier when ... | poiseandnerve | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Adolf Hitler was an exceptional speaker
We all know what atrocities he commited and how evil his regime was. Sure, his government killed around 6 million jews and led to war that killed 50 million more people.
However, he knew how to convince people and make great speeches that allowed him to rise to power. His ... | Why do you want this view changed?
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I'm interested to see if anyone can actually do it.
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I'll take your challenge. He was actually a horrible speaker, but you can't know this unless you speak German. He had a funny Austrian accent from the sticks that people used to make fun of. He talked about how great Germ... | It's easy to tell people what they want to hear and rely on theatricality rather than having a good point. Fascism is a emotional, not a rational game, and your plan is to kill all the dissidents once you're in power so you're never constrained by the truth or even by what is possible. You can just say whatever you fee... | ijqxxa | CMV: Adolf Hitler was an exceptional speaker | We all know what atrocities he commited and how evil his regime was. Sure, his government killed around 6 million jews and led to war that killed 50 million more people.
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CMV: speakers on college campuses should be held to the same standard as students at a minimum
I'm creating this thread in response to the fact that Richard Spencer again gets to speak at a campus. Racism and other bigotrys are not allowed on college campuses if said by students or professors, yet speakers are allowed... | State run colleges and universities are bound by the first ammendment. This means that they are constitutionally barred from discriminating based on what their speakers say.
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The difference between a speaker and a professor/student is just that, the speaker is not an emissary or representative of the school. A... | 76zd72 | CMV: speakers on college campuses should be held to the same standard as students at a minimum | I'm creating this thread in response to the fact that Richard Spencer again gets to speak at a campus. Racism and other bigotrys are not allowed on college campuses if said by students or professors, yet speakers are allowed to stroll right in and be as racist and otherwise bigoted as much as they like. Whenever a stud... | imgladimnothim | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Marriage proposals are done for attention and theatrics
I'm going to be honest. I grew up on the dream that one day my future husband would drop on his knees with a diamond ring and "pop the question" to me. I, of course, would scream in joy, "yes!" That scene would mark our engagement.
I talked to my dad about ... | How is your view falsifiable?
"It's done for theatrics."
"No, it isn't."
"Well, secretly, deep down, it is."
How can we disprove secret subconscious motivations?
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?
I never said the last statement.
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Apologies if I phrased it in an uncharitable way, but it does seem like you're assuming the motivation e... | I proposed to my wife with the ring/knee, but we were on a secluded beach and nobody else was around or saw it. Who were my theatrics meant to get the attention and validation of?
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>People want to recreate the scene they see on t.v. into their proposal stories for others to see or to tell others about. It's a redu... | 73ly7k | CMV: Marriage proposals are done for attention and theatrics | I'm going to be honest. I grew up on the dream that one day my future husband would drop on his knees with a diamond ring and "pop the question" to me. I, of course, would scream in joy, "yes!" That scene would mark our engagement.
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CMV: life is inherently negative; reducing pain requires trained, reflective interventions.
I'm feeling that life that isn't touched by highly conscious redirection is a terrible life, from my experience.
Meditation has been an important tool in this regard. If I hadn't discovered it (something instigated by my desir... | Well I don’t think you should let your personal experience speak for everyone.
What are we supposed to change your view on? Show you that life isn’t inherently negative?
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I would like to be disproven. Sure, it would be good to show that life isn't inherently negative.
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It can’t be disproven. It is not prov... | You're ticking several boxes indicative of depression. Depression is a very common mental condition that a supermajority of people experience at some point in their lives. I suggest consulting a mental health professional.
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What boxes?
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2. Markedly diminished interest or pleasure in most or ... | 1cyel14 | CMV: life is inherently negative; reducing pain requires trained, reflective interventions. | I'm feeling that life that isn't touched by highly conscious redirection is a terrible life, from my experience.
Meditation has been an important tool in this regard. If I hadn't discovered it (something instigated by my desire to be able to connect deeply with people), I might still be deep in the pangs of pain.
I s... | BrickOkTai | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:Toxicity is not a major problem in multiplayer pvp games.
#### Context
I have experience with multiplayer pvp games (dota2, cs:go, rocket league, lol), these are on some games generally considred toxic gaming communities. I also have experience with generally considered positive gaming communities (eve online, tf... | Video games are a way to have fun. If you constantly get called racial slurs, you are probably not having fun. If you're not having fun, you probably aren't going to be playing that game anymore, which is generally bad, as low playerbase numbers are a problem for both other players and the developers. Ergo, everyone e... | Your summary to part 1 begins with the fact that you personally never experienced anything with a lasting impact. That experience is not necessarily universal, and nor is it universal that the abuse some people suffer is limited to a point where people will just be able to shrug it off.
TW for self harm/suicide: [the... | 10m8qf0 | CMV:Toxicity is not a major problem in multiplayer pvp games. | #### Context
I have experience with multiplayer pvp games (dota2, cs:go, rocket league, lol), these are on some games generally considred toxic gaming communities. I also have experience with generally considered positive gaming communities (eve online, tf2, tf|2). This is post is exlusively about multiplayer pvp game... | polyvinylchl0rid | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV:Toxicity is not a major problem in multiplayer pvp games.
#### Context
I have experience with multiplayer pvp games (dota2, cs:go, rocket league, lol), these are on some games generally considred toxic gaming communities. I also have experience with generally considered positive gaming communities (eve online, tf... | Your summary to part 1 begins with the fact that you personally never experienced anything with a lasting impact. That experience is not necessarily universal, and nor is it universal that the abuse some people suffer is limited to a point where people will just be able to shrug it off.
TW for self harm/suicide: [the... | For context, I used to moderate for a game called Heroes of Newerth, the first standalone moba game actually (I see you play dota 2, so you might be familiar), and was generally regarded as the worst community in gaming during its popularity. I banned thousands of accounts, it was a volunteer position, and I did it for... | 10m8qf0 | CMV:Toxicity is not a major problem in multiplayer pvp games. | #### Context
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CMV: If the US is serious about a world built on rule-based order, they should recognise the ICC
So often you'd hear about the US wanting to maintain a rule-based order, and they use that justification to attack their adversaries like China, Russia, Iran, etc. They want China to respect international maritime movement... | > They want China to respect international maritime movement, Russia to respect international boundaries, or Iran to stop developing their WMDs.
All of those countries have agreed to do those things. Iran, even though it is clearly working towards a nuclear weapon, pretends that it's nuclear program is solely for scie... | Of course we are serious about a rules-based world order, they just have to be our rules. That's why the US basically always works with the UN, we have a permanent spot on their security council. But the ICC is not a part of the US's rules, so those rules do not get respect. I think it's pretty simple.
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CMV: If the simulation hypothesis is true, then it is likely that there are no other sentient beings in the universe
This post is addressed to those people who believe it to be likely that our universe is a simulated reality. While thinking about the possibility of a simulated universe, and I am not entirely convinced... | >more interested in simulating one consciousness than they would 7 billion relative to the difference between the computing power required to simulate both such realities.
What's the point of simulating one consciousness? I mean it's entertaining, but what is usefully learned that cannot be learned from a regular stu... | I agree that premise 4 is the important one. Im not sure if I fully get it, but my interpretation is that you think that simulating 7 billion conscious entities is more computationally expensive that 1 conscious entity and 7 billion minus 1 "bots" that behave like humans but aren't conscious?
If so, can you defend thi... | 73q4eg | CMV: If the simulation hypothesis is true, then it is likely that there are no other sentient beings in the universe | This post is addressed to those people who believe it to be likely that our universe is a simulated reality. While thinking about the possibility of a simulated universe, and I am not entirely convinced that the universe is simulated, I came to the conclusion that if the simulation hypothesis is true than it is far mor... | SwigNMiss | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Private military contractors are immoral and the world would be a better place if this activity was forbidden.
First, I know they have the function of giving training to people and whatnot. But that doesn't make them any better. They're people who kill for money, who go to a place to kill someone with money as it... | >They're people who kill for money, who go to a place to kill someone with money as its only appeal. Isn't that outright evil?
What is your opinion on people who join the U.S. military primarily for the college benefits? There is the potential they could be required to kill people in the course of their service, this ... | >Do we really want that in a modern society, where we can talk to one another, solve things out peacefully?
Is all violence in the world committed by PMCs?
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Of course not. But PMCs are used as boogeymen so official states can act without getting their hands dirty. That should suffice to ban all of them from opera... | 10m35f0 | CMV: Private military contractors are immoral and the world would be a better place if this activity was forbidden. | First, I know they have the function of giving training to people and whatnot. But that doesn't make them any better. They're people who kill for money, who go to a place to kill someone with money as its only appeal. Isn't that outright evil?
Imagine a bunch of people with questionable background, armed to the teeth,... | Few_Bumblebee_7296 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:The confederate flag is not racist
I am from the UK, and don't know too much about American culture. Now I go on reddit and see a lot of people saying the flag is racist - now at first I really did agree with this. But after doing some research, the majority of Americans don't see it as racist according to one stu... | >I refuse to believe that 75% of white people in the South are racist. I simply refuse it, because it's absurd.
Why is it absurd? It may be tragic, or horrifying, but it's not impossible.
What, exactly, is the heritage that the confederate battle flag is meant to represent anyway? As a literal symbol, it represent... | How do these opinion polls prove it's not racist? The Confederate flag literally is the epitomy of a movement to maintain slavery, how is it not racist?
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The flag is seen as a source of southern heritage, meanings of symbol change throughout time e.g. Swasitka.
The majority of people see it this way.
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OK? R... | g59zc3 | CMV:The confederate flag is not racist | I am from the UK, and don't know too much about American culture. Now I go on reddit and see a lot of people saying the flag is racist - now at first I really did agree with this. But after doing some research, the majority of Americans don't see it as racist according to one study and another one said something along ... | LifeTopic | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:The confederate flag is not racist
I am from the UK, and don't know too much about American culture. Now I go on reddit and see a lot of people saying the flag is racist - now at first I really did agree with this. But after doing some research, the majority of Americans don't see it as racist according to one stu... | >I refuse to believe that 75% of white people in the South are racist. I simply refuse it, because it's absurd.
Why is it absurd? It may be tragic, or horrifying, but it's not impossible.
What, exactly, is the heritage that the confederate battle flag is meant to represent anyway? As a literal symbol, it represent... | How do these opinion polls prove it's not racist? The Confederate flag literally is the epitomy of a movement to maintain slavery, how is it not racist?
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The flag is seen as a source of southern heritage, meanings of symbol change throughout time e.g. Swasitka.
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OK? R... | g59zc3 | CMV:The confederate flag is not racist | I am from the UK, and don't know too much about American culture. Now I go on reddit and see a lot of people saying the flag is racist - now at first I really did agree with this. But after doing some research, the majority of Americans don't see it as racist according to one study and another one said something along ... | LifeTopic | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Social Security in the USA is unsustainable and has no real benefit.
Social Security [has increased](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Social_Security_in_the_United_States#Expansion_and_evolution) from ~1 billion in the 1950s to over 650 billion in 2009. More than 1/6 of the country (50 million people) rec... | You're working under the assumption that I like to describe as "What will change if everything stays as it is?".
Both cost and tax income are variables, they can be changed. You don't need to work on a trust fund basis either - you can run it via direct income/spending basis, i.e. what's going in one year is paid out... | SS is a direct transfer of money from the working to the retired or disabled. It's not a kind of investment and the trust fund is a small surplus (the only part which is supposed to be invested). It doesn't need a trust find. It can operate at break even.
However, the "experts" were literally saying the same thing 20+... | 73pr7s | CMV: Social Security in the USA is unsustainable and has no real benefit. | Social Security [has increased](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Social_Security_in_the_United_States#Expansion_and_evolution) from ~1 billion in the 1950s to over 650 billion in 2009. More than 1/6 of the country (50 million people) receive monthly payments, yet [the old are more wealthy](http://www.washington... | _guy_fawkes | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: An amendment allowing only net positive tax payers to vote would solve many of our issues
While I think that we have other major issues within our system, such as First Past the Post voting (STAR voting ftw), an issue I particularly find problematic is that of politicians being able to bribe individuals with welf... | >an issue I particularly find problematic is that of politicians being able to bribe individuals with welfare promises, essentially allowing people to vote themselves tax dollars.
If that's your worry then flip that around. Politicians now bribe the voters by promising tax breaks for only those currently net positive ... | This would allow politicians to choose their voters by altering tax codes. The perverse incentives could be massive.
I think the appropriate use of taxation is to fund the Federal government while balancing the welfare of its citizens. A progressive tax system allows those whose income really has to go to basic needs... | kv9a1c | CMV: An amendment allowing only net positive tax payers to vote would solve many of our issues | While I think that we have other major issues within our system, such as First Past the Post voting (STAR voting ftw), an issue I particularly find problematic is that of politicians being able to bribe individuals with welfare promises, essentially allowing people to vote themselves tax dollars.
I understand that the... | nishinoran | 3 | 3 | [
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While I think that we have other major issues within our system, such as First Past the Post voting (STAR voting ftw), an issue I particularly find problematic is that of politicians being able to bribe individuals with welf... | Do you mean only people who pay more into the system can vote? That could conceivably be considered a poll tax, and even aside from that would severely disenfranchise minority voters as they're over-represented as negative tax payers. On top of that, lobbyists don't even need to vote for their money to be effective. Th... | >an issue I particularly find problematic is that of politicians being able to bribe individuals with welfare promises, essentially allowing people to vote themselves tax dollars
How would this be any different if only net taxpayers could vote? Politicians would easily be able to promise tax cuts for voters, "bribing"... | kv9a1c | CMV: An amendment allowing only net positive tax payers to vote would solve many of our issues | While I think that we have other major issues within our system, such as First Past the Post voting (STAR voting ftw), an issue I particularly find problematic is that of politicians being able to bribe individuals with welfare promises, essentially allowing people to vote themselves tax dollars.
I understand that the... | nishinoran | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I have as much right for the toilet seat to be left up as she has a right for it to be left down. Gender Equality!
Grew up in a house with equal representation of both genders and continue to live in that environment.
So as a result, I’m tired of the lame arguments and lectures about practicality and courtesy. ... | In an average 2-person household with at least one participant not in possession of external genitalia, the majority of toilet seat uses require the seat to be down, for two reasons:
1. I presume you poop with the seat down.
2. On averages, women pee more often than men due to them having smaller bladders.
Theref... | When you pee standing up, you're facing the toilet, and you have to watch the stream, so you're fully aware of the seat's position.
I would argue that your 'I might not look first and splash all over the floor and your clothes' requires more negligence on the part of the upright-weeing-male than is required for the se... | 8ddhgl | CMV: I have as much right for the toilet seat to be left up as she has a right for it to be left down. Gender Equality! | Grew up in a house with equal representation of both genders and continue to live in that environment.
So as a result, I’m tired of the lame arguments and lectures about practicality and courtesy.
She might not look first and plunge into the pond. I might not look first and pee all over the toilet seat, splash on... | Tawptuan | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Religious/philosophical Exemptions should not exist for vaccines.
While i’m generally tolerable and well understanding of religious exemptions to plenty of rules which allow exemptions, vaccines are not one of them.
I get we can’t mandate them anymore than we already do because that would be unethical, not allow... | > I get that the US can’t favour one religion over the other, freedom of religion is in the bill of rights. However, I am willing to bet the right to life is in there as well. And if someone who is unable to get the vaccine for medical reasons contracted it because of a lack of herd immunity, then their right to life i... | don't see much reason for changing your view, considering you accept that you can't force people to get vaccines, or disrespect religious freedom.
right to life in the bill of rights is about the state's relationship to the person: "nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due proc... | akcs5u | CMV: Religious/philosophical Exemptions should not exist for vaccines. | While i’m generally tolerable and well understanding of religious exemptions to plenty of rules which allow exemptions, vaccines are not one of them.
I get we can’t mandate them anymore than we already do because that would be unethical, not allowing them to go to school is good enough incentive and is much less likel... | Riothegod1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Religious/philosophical Exemptions should not exist for vaccines.
While i’m generally tolerable and well understanding of religious exemptions to plenty of rules which allow exemptions, vaccines are not one of them.
I get we can’t mandate them anymore than we already do because that would be unethical, not allow... | don't see much reason for changing your view, considering you accept that you can't force people to get vaccines, or disrespect religious freedom.
right to life in the bill of rights is about the state's relationship to the person: "nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due proc... | > I get that the US can’t favour one religion over the other, freedom of religion is in the bill of rights. However, I am willing to bet the right to life is in there as well. And if someone who is unable to get the vaccine for medical reasons contracted it because of a lack of herd immunity, then their right to life i... | akcs5u | CMV: Religious/philosophical Exemptions should not exist for vaccines. | While i’m generally tolerable and well understanding of religious exemptions to plenty of rules which allow exemptions, vaccines are not one of them.
I get we can’t mandate them anymore than we already do because that would be unethical, not allowing them to go to school is good enough incentive and is much less likel... | Riothegod1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Religious/philosophical Exemptions should not exist for vaccines.
While i’m generally tolerable and well understanding of religious exemptions to plenty of rules which allow exemptions, vaccines are not one of them.
I get we can’t mandate them anymore than we already do because that would be unethical, not allow... | The biggest problem isn’t the people who religion contradicts getting vaccinated. It’s the people who say that use this as an excuse who don’t actually have religious interference with this but just say they do.
---
Yes. This is why I want this loophole closed, because it is exploited by anti-vaxers who claim it dis... | > I get that the US can’t favour one religion over the other, freedom of religion is in the bill of rights. However, I am willing to bet the right to life is in there as well. And if someone who is unable to get the vaccine for medical reasons contracted it because of a lack of herd immunity, then their right to life i... | akcs5u | CMV: Religious/philosophical Exemptions should not exist for vaccines. | While i’m generally tolerable and well understanding of religious exemptions to plenty of rules which allow exemptions, vaccines are not one of them.
I get we can’t mandate them anymore than we already do because that would be unethical, not allowing them to go to school is good enough incentive and is much less likel... | Riothegod1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Technological Advancements/Automating low-wage jobs Can be good for Jobs
So, I've been thinking, specifically about the issue of automating things like food ordering, making waiters/tresses unnecessary, and how creating robots for jobs like that can create job shortages. I then remembered that STEM jobs are widel... | Your text seems to me to be mostly about other things than your title, could you specify what exactly is the view you want to have changed?
---
That if we automate low-level jobs, that can actually create new jobs, and help more people find a job, or a better one then they currently have, provided we make higher educ... | More people than ever are attending college right now, and this labor gap keeps seeming to grow. I'm rather skeptical, as it stands, that we wouldn't just see the present situation get worse. Lots of high skill jobs available that most can't take, and fewer low skill jobs that pay a reasonable wage. Moreover, a positiv... | a02r55 | CMV: Technological Advancements/Automating low-wage jobs Can be good for Jobs | So, I've been thinking, specifically about the issue of automating things like food ordering, making waiters/tresses unnecessary, and how creating robots for jobs like that can create job shortages. I then remembered that STEM jobs are widely understaffed, and there are many openings there. Automating systems can creat... | sushiinyourface | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: When operating a vehicle on public roads, everyone should always use their turn signal when changing lanes or approaching intersections.
American context specific, I have not spent extensive time driving outside the US.
Using a turn signal allows a vehicle to ‘communicate’ with every other vehicle nearby.
When ... | Maybe I missed this in driving school, but why do you need to turn on your blinker when you’re approaching an intersection and going straight? I think you mean turning at an intersection?
---
A semantically, and pedantically, fair critique. I should have phrased it as ‘approaching intersections when a driver intends ... | I'll give you the logic that most non-blinkers internally use: most of the time, it doesn't cause an accident.
It's really that simple. Is a few lives every day worth the effort of *everyone* having to *always* use their blinkers? Apparently not. A lot of conveniences we enjoy every day cost a few people their lives, ... | wr73vv | CMV: When operating a vehicle on public roads, everyone should always use their turn signal when changing lanes or approaching intersections. | American context specific, I have not spent extensive time driving outside the US.
Using a turn signal allows a vehicle to ‘communicate’ with every other vehicle nearby.
When other motorists understand the intentions of the vehicles around them, it allows everyone to make informed decisions. The more information that... | TheFinnebago | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Paternity tests should be routine for newborns
I'm adopted, so I really don't understand the stress that men have over the theoretical possibility of raising a child that is not biologically their own. I love my dad, and he loves me. However, it seems quite clear that at least some men are really freaked out by... | My comment will be deleted from not really disagreeing with you, but the only real argument I can think of against it is if it's "routine", who's paying for it?
---
It would probably be tacked on to the routine L&D charges, which run into the tens of thousands of dollars. I don't know the actual cost, but I'd be sur... | From a medical standpoint, there is no medical necessity for paternity testing so there isn’t a case to make it a routine medical practice.
From a practical/consequentialist standpoint, the vast majority of people have no need for this test. The only people that do are those who have some doubt about the child’s pater... | biiqs8 | CMV: Paternity tests should be routine for newborns | I'm adopted, so I really don't understand the stress that men have over the theoretical possibility of raising a child that is not biologically their own. I love my dad, and he loves me. However, it seems quite clear that at least some men are really freaked out by the idea, and unlike women they do not have the almo... | bluehorserunning | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I believe in keeping the death penalty for social and personal justice
Before I go on, I would like to make a few clarifying statements. I am aware of the costly and long trials and appeals it takes for a inmate to be on execution, and the one in thousands who are wrongfully convicted. Keeping that in mind, I wou... | The justice system doesn't always act towards justice. The justice system makes mistakes, and has biases against certain groups of people (most notably, ethnic minorities). This is bad enough, but at the very least someone who is wrongfully imprisoned can be released. Once someone is executed, that injustice can never ... | I've never quite understood the "justice" argument for the death sentence. If anything, the death sentence is an act of mercy for the murderer, giving them a quick out. There's a reason that so many killers, terrorists, warlords, etc... end up committing suicide rather than facing justice for their crimes. It's a quick... | akb4pv | CMV: I believe in keeping the death penalty for social and personal justice | Before I go on, I would like to make a few clarifying statements. I am aware of the costly and long trials and appeals it takes for a inmate to be on execution, and the one in thousands who are wrongfully convicted. Keeping that in mind, I would only like to focus on the idea of justice. Not to say they are valid point... | Donut5030 | 3 | 3 | [
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