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CMV: Physical violence should be used exclusively for defense, never for vengance.
Legal precedent states that, for physical force to constitute self-defence, the following criterion must be met.
The risk of harm must be immediate (we are talking minutes or seconds).
The fear of harm must be reasonable (even if the... | > you should be able to employ physical force or violence on someone for crimes they committed in the past
What is your opinion on incarceration?
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> What is your opinion on incarceration?
We have due process for a reason. The defendant is put on trail and a jury democratically decides what punishment (if any... | >The response must be proportional to the initial harmful act (the response must match the level of the threat in question, no more).
What if a given level of force is required to defend yourself that is disproportionate to the threat posed?
For example, let's say someone tries to steal something from me. Let's say t... | 1c9k5nt | CMV: Physical violence should be used exclusively for defense, never for vengance. | Legal precedent states that, for physical force to constitute self-defence, the following criterion must be met.
The risk of harm must be immediate (we are talking minutes or seconds).
The fear of harm must be reasonable (even if the other person did not intend to harm you, they may have caused harm by accident and ... | bigelow6698 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: people should be put into gulags and be forced to do hard work if they have committed murder as punishment.
If a person has died from unnatural causes then the work they could have done to their civilization is taken away, because of that I think if someone kills someone then the only way they can realistically p... | Allowing the state to benefit from imprisoning people gives the government incentive to imprison people. They might cut corners to make sure they can arrest and convict someone so they continue to get their slave labor
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This is why only a civilization without any form of currency can properly pull this off.
For n... | Jobs aren’t infinite. What if the only jobs left for most citizens were the manual labor ones? Why should criminals exclusively get those jobs while the productive citizens have less jobs available to them.
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If there are open spaces in jobs then they could be filled with civilians
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Okay, what if they’re aren’... | fvnwl7 | CMV: people should be put into gulags and be forced to do hard work if they have committed murder as punishment. | If a person has died from unnatural causes then the work they could have done to their civilization is taken away, because of that I think if someone kills someone then the only way they can realistically pay for what they have done is by working hard and difficult jobs for the rest of their life to try to pay back the... | bemore-game | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: people should be put into gulags and be forced to do hard work if they have committed murder as punishment.
If a person has died from unnatural causes then the work they could have done to their civilization is taken away, because of that I think if someone kills someone then the only way they can realistically p... | Allowing the state to benefit from imprisoning people gives the government incentive to imprison people. They might cut corners to make sure they can arrest and convict someone so they continue to get their slave labor
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This is why only a civilization without any form of currency can properly pull this off.
For n... | Jobs aren’t infinite. What if the only jobs left for most citizens were the manual labor ones? Why should criminals exclusively get those jobs while the productive citizens have less jobs available to them.
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If there are open spaces in jobs then they could be filled with civilians
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Okay, what if they’re aren’... | fvnwl7 | CMV: people should be put into gulags and be forced to do hard work if they have committed murder as punishment. | If a person has died from unnatural causes then the work they could have done to their civilization is taken away, because of that I think if someone kills someone then the only way they can realistically pay for what they have done is by working hard and difficult jobs for the rest of their life to try to pay back the... | bemore-game | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There is no Reason to Believe that Sexual Promiscuity is Immoral.
I saw that there's already a thread about whether sexual promiscuity is "bad" in a general sense, but I believe this is a distinct question.
Apart from adherence to religious dogma, I can't think of a logical reason to believe that sexual promiscu... | Sexual promiscuity is linked to [infidelity in relationships](https://www.athensjournals.gr/social/2016-1-X-Y-Pinto.pdf), [depression](https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/promoting-empathy-your-teen/201301/link-between-sexual-promiscuity-and-depression-in-teens), [anxiety, alcoholism and drug use](https://files.eric.e... | As do all moral judgements, it depends on the moral system. Depending on one's core beliefs, sexual promiscuity may or may not be "moral" for a particular person and their peers.
Examples:
Having sex defiles the soul/mind/etc. = having sex is morally wrong.
Consenting adults can do whatever they want = having sex... | 7ma5iy | CMV: There is no Reason to Believe that Sexual Promiscuity is Immoral. | I saw that there's already a thread about whether sexual promiscuity is "bad" in a general sense, but I believe this is a distinct question.
Apart from adherence to religious dogma, I can't think of a logical reason to believe that sexual promiscuity is immoral. Consensual sex is fundamentally a matter between the par... | jzent7 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There is no Reason to Believe that Sexual Promiscuity is Immoral.
I saw that there's already a thread about whether sexual promiscuity is "bad" in a general sense, but I believe this is a distinct question.
Apart from adherence to religious dogma, I can't think of a logical reason to believe that sexual promiscu... | As do all moral judgements, it depends on the moral system. Depending on one's core beliefs, sexual promiscuity may or may not be "moral" for a particular person and their peers.
Examples:
Having sex defiles the soul/mind/etc. = having sex is morally wrong.
Consenting adults can do whatever they want = having sex... | If there is not shame in the person who is promiscuous then it’s not a bad thing. For example, if a girl is called a slut or a whore because she sleeps around she should be completely okay with being called one and accept it. If she gets offended by being called a Slut then she is acknowledging that it’s not morally co... | 7ma5iy | CMV: There is no Reason to Believe that Sexual Promiscuity is Immoral. | I saw that there's already a thread about whether sexual promiscuity is "bad" in a general sense, but I believe this is a distinct question.
Apart from adherence to religious dogma, I can't think of a logical reason to believe that sexual promiscuity is immoral. Consensual sex is fundamentally a matter between the par... | jzent7 | 17 | 17 | [
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CMV: I am not going to die*.
In recent months I have been gradually becoming more bullish upon the impact that biotech and AI will have upon the indefinite extension of not only the human life span, but the human 'health span'. I should clarify that when I say that I am not going to die, I actually mean, 'I am not goi... | If old people don't die, where do all the new people go?
If medicine to stop you from aging were to be invented you probably wouldn't be allowed to use them unless you are super rich. Since you probably aren't super rich you will probably die anyway.
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If you are referring to the problem of overpopulation, I view ... | I'd like to believe this, but it's one of those things that seems too good to be true. I'd rather not believe and then be disappointed.
There are issues, such as human over-population, cost to individuals, and that it might be developed when you're too old for it to help.
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Exacerbating the popul... | 6sy4l5 | CMV: I am not going to die*. | In recent months I have been gradually becoming more bullish upon the impact that biotech and AI will have upon the indefinite extension of not only the human life span, but the human 'health span'. I should clarify that when I say that I am not going to die, I actually mean, 'I am not going to die of old age'. Clearly... | sdogg691 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Being a rapper doesn't make you a musician
Just to be clear, I do not mean that the genre of rap isn't considered music. I mean that rappers specifically cannot be called musicians unless they have proper musical experience outside of rapping. As a musician who plays multiple instruments with a deep understanding... | Can you share your definition of musician?
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To me, a musician is a person who is able to play, create, and/or understand basic musical concepts.
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But in your post, you mention that rappers need na understanding of rhythm. Isn't that a basic musical concept?
Also, likening rappers to poets is actually an arg... | When you are listening to rap music, do you hear any other sounds other than what comes out of the rapper’s mouth?
If so what do you call that sound?
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Yes. The beat or track is music. Thus, the producer would be the real musician behind the song. The rapper is more like the guy to present it to the public because... | 1ltgy41 | CMV: Being a rapper doesn't make you a musician | Just to be clear, I do not mean that the genre of rap isn't considered music. I mean that rappers specifically cannot be called musicians unless they have proper musical experience outside of rapping. As a musician who plays multiple instruments with a deep understanding of music, I do not view rappers as proper musici... | ProfessionalMath8873 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: VEDIC astrology is legit
I consulted a vedic astrologer online when I was 17.
While some things he said turned out to be false or things that could be explained by confirmation bias, there's one piece of information he shared that I can't explain -
1) He said that I had a sister and she was born in either 2005 ... | >While some things he said turned out to be false or things that could be explained by confirmation bias
So he's definitely not all knowing and a good guess on two points?
If it's true that:
>some sage has seen the future of every person who'll come to see his written predictions and so if you're destined to find i... | Have you ever heard of the concept of a lucky guess
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Two lucky guesses in a row and so precise? Doesn't it seem unlikely?
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Not nearly as unlikely as astrology being effective.
Like, not even remotely as unlikely. | 1caaotc | CMV: VEDIC astrology is legit | I consulted a vedic astrologer online when I was 17.
While some things he said turned out to be false or things that could be explained by confirmation bias, there's one piece of information he shared that I can't explain -
1) He said that I had a sister and she was born in either 2005 or 2008.
2) My mother had an a... | Sahil_890 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Asian doctor removed from the United Airlines flight was chosen because he is Asian
I believe that David Dao, the doctor violently removed from the united airlines flight was not chosen randomly. He was discriminated against because he is a person of color on a mostly white flight and they figured it would be... |
"Americans have a long history of discrimination towards Asians and although it may not be talked about so much as discrimination towards blacks or muslims." I guess you are trying to say that blacks, muslims, and asians cannot be Americans.
Americans tend to like far east asians because we are under the impression t... | You're wrong because a computer selected the individuals and the computer was unaware of the ethnicity of the people on the plane.
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They say that. How can we know they aren't lying to protect themselves?
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I fly several times a month. They have no documentation from me that details my ethnicity...never get ... | 657ain | CMV: The Asian doctor removed from the United Airlines flight was chosen because he is Asian | I believe that David Dao, the doctor violently removed from the united airlines flight was not chosen randomly. He was discriminated against because he is a person of color on a mostly white flight and they figured it would be less hassle than moving a white or even black passenger who might have more confidence to spe... | Poison1990 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We should uplift dogs and make them sentient/sapient
This will be very brief. As a kid, I read David Brin's uplife series, which posits that humans will "uplift" or genetically engineer chimpanzees and dolphins to become sentient, co-equals with humanity.
I want to posit something else: We SHOULD uplift dogs. ... | The underlying assumption of this post is that there is a clear line between genetics as they are currently understood and consciousness. Sadly, we don’t really have this level of understanding. There are large research projects trying to figure out how the brain actually works. In all likelihood, consciousness is the ... | Clarification- would you consider it unethical to not uplift dogs if we had the ability to do so (we currently do not)?
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Nope.
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So when you say it’s something we should do, what exactly do you mean? If there’s nothing wrong about the current/future situation of dogs being as they are, what’s the drive to upli... | m8kumf | CMV: We should uplift dogs and make them sentient/sapient | This will be very brief. As a kid, I read David Brin's uplife series, which posits that humans will "uplift" or genetically engineer chimpanzees and dolphins to become sentient, co-equals with humanity.
I want to posit something else: We SHOULD uplift dogs. Dogs have been with us for \*thousands\* of years, and they... | Isz82 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We should stop using gift cards as a better gift than cash.
I realized this year as I was discussing with my friends that gift cards are wasting people's money. Gift cards are a waste of money for the consumer and is draining the public of their money because lots of the money never gets fully used up.People ofte... | For the frugal spender, a gift card can be better because it is an obligation. It is forcing them to go buy something they want but otherwise might not have spent the money on. It is for the same reason I use a travel credit card. I could get more cash back probably, but then I would just save it. It forces me to go on... | Gift cards to a specific place or for a specific thing are nice because then I'm obligated to get a gift. With cash, I'd just pay a bill or something. Which is nice too, but it's not a special treat like a gift. Also, I can't use cash for online purchases.
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Add it to your credit card, who says that paying a bill i... | kkligc | CMV: We should stop using gift cards as a better gift than cash. | I realized this year as I was discussing with my friends that gift cards are wasting people's money. Gift cards are a waste of money for the consumer and is draining the public of their money because lots of the money never gets fully used up.People often times won't use the $1 they have to make a combined purchase whi... | Heard_by_Glob | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We should stop using gift cards as a better gift than cash.
I realized this year as I was discussing with my friends that gift cards are wasting people's money. Gift cards are a waste of money for the consumer and is draining the public of their money because lots of the money never gets fully used up.People ofte... | I just received a gift card, and I think it was definitely a better gift than cash.
See, I don't need money. I've been living relatively frugally with a full time job for a while, and I have plenty of savings. If someone gives me cash it just goes into that same big pile of fungible savings, and it doesn't really matt... | For the frugal spender, a gift card can be better because it is an obligation. It is forcing them to go buy something they want but otherwise might not have spent the money on. It is for the same reason I use a travel credit card. I could get more cash back probably, but then I would just save it. It forces me to go on... | kkligc | CMV: We should stop using gift cards as a better gift than cash. | I realized this year as I was discussing with my friends that gift cards are wasting people's money. Gift cards are a waste of money for the consumer and is draining the public of their money because lots of the money never gets fully used up.People often times won't use the $1 they have to make a combined purchase whi... | Heard_by_Glob | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: We should stop using gift cards as a better gift than cash.
I realized this year as I was discussing with my friends that gift cards are wasting people's money. Gift cards are a waste of money for the consumer and is draining the public of their money because lots of the money never gets fully used up.People ofte... | I just received a gift card, and I think it was definitely a better gift than cash.
See, I don't need money. I've been living relatively frugally with a full time job for a while, and I have plenty of savings. If someone gives me cash it just goes into that same big pile of fungible savings, and it doesn't really matt... | What about for kids? Parents are likely to insist kids save their money for college/etc. But a gift card to Dick's, the kid gets to buy whatever sports stuff they want.
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In a dozen states, you can get the rest back as cash when you have used most of a gi... | kkligc | CMV: We should stop using gift cards as a better gift than cash. | I realized this year as I was discussing with my friends that gift cards are wasting people's money. Gift cards are a waste of money for the consumer and is draining the public of their money because lots of the money never gets fully used up.People often times won't use the $1 they have to make a combined purchase whi... | Heard_by_Glob | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I am in no way attracted to black people. I am not racist.
Ok so it has happened on multiple occasions where I will be having a conversation with someone about who is the hottest celebrity, my top 5 etc. and it will always be highlighted by someone in the group that there are no black people or any people of a di... | > This is never met very well and I've been accused of being racist just because my sexual preferences don't align with ongoing trends in society.
Do you really think this is a fair assessment? Do you think it's uncommon for most European or American people's list of "hottest people" to contain few black celebrities?... | Pretend that the idea of "race" didn't exist. What is it that you are not attracted to? Dark skin? Some white people and Asian people have that. Big noses? Not all black people have the same nose shape. The hair? There's a lot more variation there than you think.
I live in a place where there are a lot of black people... | 6e74a7 | CMV: I am in no way attracted to black people. I am not racist. | Ok so it has happened on multiple occasions where I will be having a conversation with someone about who is the hottest celebrity, my top 5 etc. and it will always be highlighted by someone in the group that there are no black people or any people of a different race for that matter. I usually follow up by saying that ... | CoolioBeanz | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Joel Osteen is a preacher of demons, not the Christian God
I am not a Christian, or a believer in God. I do like to read, and I will try to give my best definition to what the Christian God is.
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First, you worship God because he is the one and only true God. He is the God of gods. That is, while othe... | First, you seem to be attributing a lot more power to both angels and demons than they're generally given, at least in the Evangelical Protestant denominations in which Osteen preaches. They're not "good gods" or "bad gods", even minor gods, God created angels to fulfill a multitude of duties, and some of them became d... | [removed]
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Lol I'm 30 | m8jesn | CMV: Joel Osteen is a preacher of demons, not the Christian God | I am not a Christian, or a believer in God. I do like to read, and I will try to give my best definition to what the Christian God is.
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First, you worship God because he is the one and only true God. He is the God of gods. That is, while other immortal beings exist, God is the creator of all things, and ev... | MizunoGolfer15-20 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Destiny/fate are absolutely real. They aren't divine, but are simply the result of a huge chain of cause and effect. Free will is fake.
~~Every single event has an outcome that is 100 percent calculable if you know all of the factors involved~~. From the beginning of the universe we've simply been living in an in... | Quantum mechanics (supposedly) show that when it comes to subatomic particles their velocity cannot be known if their location is known and vice versa, so perfect knowledge of the entire universe is thus impossible.
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Absolutely right. Bit ashamed to have forgotten that bit.
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But just because I can't calc... | Unlike a ball falling down, most physical systems are chaotic, meaning that any arbitrarily small uncertainty in the initial conditions will grow exponentially and make the outcome completely uncertain after a short while. Even though the laws of physics are deterministic, predictions are only possible when the initial... | mgpdyu | CMV: Destiny/fate are absolutely real. They aren't divine, but are simply the result of a huge chain of cause and effect. Free will is fake. | ~~Every single event has an outcome that is 100 percent calculable if you know all of the factors involved~~. From the beginning of the universe we've simply been living in an infinite, increasingly complex chain of cause and effect.
~~With the right math and a lot of time, you could calculate exactly where any molecu... | Chrrrristian | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Bitcoin should be illegal
Bitcoin should be illegal. Mining it _and_ owning it.
Currently, the biggest cryptocurrency is Bitcoin. The fundamental function is a way to publicly make it clear who owns what, with no external authority. It is designed for the mining and transfer of bitcoins to become more computati... | [deleted]
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> So, given this, your proposal is: ban using energy in ways you personally do not see valuable. Personally, I find makeup, cosmetics, and fashion entirely without value. I don't know how the CO2 emissions of these industries compares to BTC, especially when you include materials, transport, etc, but it... | Ok, make it illegal. Then what? Something like that is almost impossible to enforce. Or I just move all my bitcoin into Ethereum or Dogecoin or Litecoin.
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> Ok, make it illegal. Then what? Something like that is almost impossible to enforce.
Tracking bitcoin mining seems like the kind of thing that shouldn't b... | m8e0kg | CMV: Bitcoin should be illegal | Bitcoin should be illegal. Mining it _and_ owning it.
Currently, the biggest cryptocurrency is Bitcoin. The fundamental function is a way to publicly make it clear who owns what, with no external authority. It is designed for the mining and transfer of bitcoins to become more computationally taxing the more of them e... | BPC3 | 7 | 5 | [
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CMV: Being a stay-at-home partner is nearly always a bad idea
I'm convinced that being a stay-at-home *unemployed* spouse, regardless of gender, is a terrible choice with only a handful of exceptions. You lose job market skills. You become completely financially dependent on your partner, which could trap you in a bad... | Say you marry someone who makes $500,000/year, but you only make $30,000/year. You are only contributing 6% of the total income to your family, even though both of you are working the same number of hours. Say you cut your hours in half and only make 15,000 a year. That extra time allows you to do more household tasks,... | It seems like the core of your argument is that a person who does not have a job is worthless. Isn't it possible to derive self-worth from things that are not deemed valuable to capitalist society?
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Spiritually and morally, sure. It's just that we're stuck living in that capitalist society for the foreseeable fut... | 7mams4 | CMV: Being a stay-at-home partner is nearly always a bad idea | I'm convinced that being a stay-at-home *unemployed* spouse, regardless of gender, is a terrible choice with only a handful of exceptions. You lose job market skills. You become completely financially dependent on your partner, which could trap you in a bad relationship. If your marriage falls apart or something happen... | oopsbat | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:if the germans had the sherman they would have fared better in ww2
I have been thinking for a while and came to the conclusion the sherman was the best ww2 tank not counting prototypes like the t20 or few used like the centurion and is3.the sherman could have helped the germans if they had it from 1939 on it has a... | The Sherman was a great tank, but it was the US manufacturing capabilities that really made it shine for the US.
Even if you gave Germany access to the plans, they wouldn’t have been able to build them in sufficient numbers, or support the logistical supply chain for long enough to really make a difference.
It might ... | Not really. It over-engineering was a major problem for the Germans, but it dovetailed into the death of any army: Logistics.
That lacked the ability to make everything they needed. They lacked the ability to move what they had where they needed it. A joke I make a lot is as follows "The Tiger was a damn good tank, or... | 8aqgpe | CMV:if the germans had the sherman they would have fared better in ww2 | I have been thinking for a while and came to the conclusion the sherman was the best ww2 tank not counting prototypes like the t20 or few used like the centurion and is3.the sherman could have helped the germans if they had it from 1939 on it has a nice armor of 60mm sloped a amazing anti infantry he
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CMV: Our understanding of Ancient human history is far from the truth of what actually happened.
Its a gradual decline of confidence the further back in time we go, but for simplicity of this conversation I will be referring to 0 B.C/B.C.E and prior.
Compared to what actually happened, I'd be surprised if we know 1% ... | >the problem is it is often used to date objects found near the carbon sample. Like, we just assume something found near it is the same age and pretend that over the thousands of years it wasn't moved there? A common example is finding a wooden beam in some ruins. How do we know it wasn't replacing an older beam?
You ... | What scale are you talking about? Because sure, if you drill further and further down, you will always find more information we don't know about. But that makes the argument of "I'd be surprised if we know 1% of it" meaningless, because, there is always more that can be learned.
As for written records, you say it fe... | zy8d13 | CMV: Our understanding of Ancient human history is far from the truth of what actually happened. | Its a gradual decline of confidence the further back in time we go, but for simplicity of this conversation I will be referring to 0 B.C/B.C.E and prior.
Compared to what actually happened, I'd be surprised if we know 1% of it. Yet when classes our taught on the subject, and people talk about these ancient times, it ... | RedditExplorer89 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: SEO Experts are people who have spent their careers trying to guess the search algorithm using trial-and-error
SEO is all about making your site appear in search results for desirable keywords, Had the search algorithm been known precisely, no one would need SEO Experts as everyone would know how search engines i... | > Since the Algorithm isn't precisely known to anyone, SEO Experts have deduced various characteristics that affect indexing just by using trial-and-error.
Google actually publishes a lot of best practices and expectations in its official channels, and they tell site owners what they should do to a large part. For exa... | SEO guy here. Matt Cutts was a part of the Google and used to post a lot of SEO tips, basically telling the community what the algos were looking for. Google wanted him to do this but he was not allowed to give away secrets, but he would point people in the right direction so they wouldn’t have to use pure trial and er... | m8awmq | CMV: SEO Experts are people who have spent their careers trying to guess the search algorithm using trial-and-error | SEO is all about making your site appear in search results for desirable keywords, Had the search algorithm been known precisely, no one would need SEO Experts as everyone would know how search engines index and will take steps to please the Algorithm. Since the Algorithm isn't precisely known to anyone, SEO Experts ha... | theabbiee | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no reason to buy a DSLR over a Mirrorless camera
Aside from battery life, which I also believe is negligible, there are no actual advantages to buying a DSLR compared to a mirrorless camera in the 2020’s.
Photographers are free to choose their own tool, and if they *want* a DSLR, then they are entitled ... | If you're going to make such a blanket statement then literally any advantage a DSLR has should be enough to change your mind.
DSLRs have way better battery life
DSLRs have WAY more options to choose from when it comes to lenses
Mirrorless cameras give you no choice but to use an electronic viewfinder.
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>Mirror... | You completely brushed off the “they are cheaper” argument, when that may be the most important for new photographers. Just because you can explain why it’s that way, doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist. You also said “just buy a grip” for small mirrorless cameras, which just increases the price more. You said the p... | pl0v5k | CMV: There is no reason to buy a DSLR over a Mirrorless camera | Aside from battery life, which I also believe is negligible, there are no actual advantages to buying a DSLR compared to a mirrorless camera in the 2020’s.
Photographers are free to choose their own tool, and if they *want* a DSLR, then they are entitled to it, but modern professional mirrorless cameras are better in ... | ObviousRant | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: If an animal has a big enough population, hunting of it should be allowed
For this example I will use the American Robin vs the California Quail as an example.
California Quail are able to be hunted in states where they are common and have a total population of about 1-3 million birds. Meanwhile, the American Ro... | There are only two reasons to hunt. To thin an invasive population, and/or to eat what you kill. You can’t really eat songbirds so the next question is are robins invasive, and the answer is no. Go hunt starlings instead.
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Are songbirds not very edible?
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The amount of meat per bird is pretty pathetic.
Indee... | So we can hunt people?
What about domestic cats and dogs?
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Touche, should have put wild animal instead of animal in my title !delta
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^[Delta System Explained](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/deltasyst... | w9hy6t | CMV: If an animal has a big enough population, hunting of it should be allowed | For this example I will use the American Robin vs the California Quail as an example.
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CMV: Disney's parental issues helped to create society's skewed view of step parents.
Cinderella especially helped cement society's idea of the evil stepmother. Especially in the Mother Gothel generation, the evil stepmother hate seems to help perpetuate family dysfunction in a day and age where divorce rates are at a... | The "cinderella" template is one of the oldest and most wide spread folktales there is. Variants can be found on every continent, and nearly every culture. Likewise evil step parents are a trope that goes back thousands and thousands of years. It seems weird to blame Disney for cultural tropes that have existed since b... | > Cinderella especially helped cement society's idea of the evil stepmother.
> I blame Disney (Cinderella) for this.
Disney's version is based [on an amalgamation of several stories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella) that later led to the more modern version of Cinderella, or The Glass Slipper.
The evil ste... | kkk38n | CMV: Disney's parental issues helped to create society's skewed view of step parents. | Cinderella especially helped cement society's idea of the evil stepmother. Especially in the Mother Gothel generation, the evil stepmother hate seems to help perpetuate family dysfunction in a day and age where divorce rates are at an all time high. The Brady Bunch did no favors to encourage blended families and help w... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Feminism and Transgenderism are fundamentally incompatible ideologies
Traditional feminism espouses that men and women should be treated equally because they possess mostly equal mental facilities. Feminists argue that most of the difference between male and female behavior can be explained by differential social... | I think I need to just sit down and write a catchy little jingle about how gender identity is not the same thing as fitting a gender role, because this comes up a *lot* and the response is really that simple.
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Understanding the difference between gender identity and gender role is precisely where I am struggling h... | I'd medically transition even if we all shaved our heads and wore potato sacks.
Has nothing to do with clothes or roles. Roles and clothes are just about fitting in after the medical stuff is resolved.
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Sure. But you aren't disagreeing with my argument. I would say it just means you are definitely not a classica... | 7m9zdr | CMV: Feminism and Transgenderism are fundamentally incompatible ideologies | Traditional feminism espouses that men and women should be treated equally because they possess mostly equal mental facilities. Feminists argue that most of the difference between male and female behavior can be explained by differential social conditioning in their upbringing. Therefore, gender is merely a societal co... | f0me | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: body positivity sucks
Edit: I’m closing the post now, don’t expect any comments from me. have fun amongst yourselves.
As I’ve angered many people in my life with my attitude against fat people let’s seriously try and change my view.
I really dislike fat people so much, they’re lazy, have no commitment to long ... | "have no commitment to long term goals"
That's just clearly factually untrue. There have been loads of fat people who have been successful in pretty much every field- arts, business, politics, even sports.
It seems like you're hyper focused on physical fitness, and ignoring everything else.
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well I am ignoring ... | Do you think being fat comes from self love? People eat to fill a hole. More hate and anger will only fuel that hunger. Self love is a start, and loving your body means treating it better. It can fill that hole you previously filled with food, so that you don't have that same urge.
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I figure fat comes from lazines... | zy2wc8 | CMV: body positivity sucks | Edit: I’m closing the post now, don’t expect any comments from me. have fun amongst yourselves.
As I’ve angered many people in my life with my attitude against fat people let’s seriously try and change my view.
I really dislike fat people so much, they’re lazy, have no commitment to long term goals, carry themselves... | Suspicious-Cypher | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: body positivity sucks
Edit: I’m closing the post now, don’t expect any comments from me. have fun amongst yourselves.
As I’ve angered many people in my life with my attitude against fat people let’s seriously try and change my view.
I really dislike fat people so much, they’re lazy, have no commitment to long ... | Do you think being fat comes from self love? People eat to fill a hole. More hate and anger will only fuel that hunger. Self love is a start, and loving your body means treating it better. It can fill that hole you previously filled with food, so that you don't have that same urge.
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I figure fat comes from lazines... | Well, how about instead of despising fat people because you've decided they're all disgusting, lazy liars, you actually act as though you want a single one of them to get more healthy?
And, with that in mind, what do you think is the better approach to becoming healthier? Being told that they're disgusting and lazy a... | zy2wc8 | CMV: body positivity sucks | Edit: I’m closing the post now, don’t expect any comments from me. have fun amongst yourselves.
As I’ve angered many people in my life with my attitude against fat people let’s seriously try and change my view.
I really dislike fat people so much, they’re lazy, have no commitment to long term goals, carry themselves... | Suspicious-Cypher | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: body positivity sucks
Edit: I’m closing the post now, don’t expect any comments from me. have fun amongst yourselves.
As I’ve angered many people in my life with my attitude against fat people let’s seriously try and change my view.
I really dislike fat people so much, they’re lazy, have no commitment to long ... | Because making people hate their bodies does not work as a weight loss technique. Bullying people does not encourage them to lose weight, despite the popular stereotype that it does.
> 79% of weight-loss program participants reported coping with weight stigma by eating more food.
Andreyeva, T., Puhl, R. M. and Browne... | Do you think being fat comes from self love? People eat to fill a hole. More hate and anger will only fuel that hunger. Self love is a start, and loving your body means treating it better. It can fill that hole you previously filled with food, so that you don't have that same urge.
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I figure fat comes from lazines... | zy2wc8 | CMV: body positivity sucks | Edit: I’m closing the post now, don’t expect any comments from me. have fun amongst yourselves.
As I’ve angered many people in my life with my attitude against fat people let’s seriously try and change my view.
I really dislike fat people so much, they’re lazy, have no commitment to long term goals, carry themselves... | Suspicious-Cypher | 3 | 3 | [
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Edit: I’m closing the post now, don’t expect any comments from me. have fun amongst yourselves.
As I’ve angered many people in my life with my attitude against fat people let’s seriously try and change my view.
I really dislike fat people so much, they’re lazy, have no commitment to long ... | Because making people hate their bodies does not work as a weight loss technique. Bullying people does not encourage them to lose weight, despite the popular stereotype that it does.
> 79% of weight-loss program participants reported coping with weight stigma by eating more food.
Andreyeva, T., Puhl, R. M. and Browne... | >they’re lazy, have no commitment to long term goals, carry themselves without discipline through life and are the worst members of society.
We have full on nazis, evangelicals, etc but no, fat people are the worst because..... of stereotypes that aren't even true.
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wow that’s a bit out of left field. don’t you t... | zy2wc8 | CMV: body positivity sucks | Edit: I’m closing the post now, don’t expect any comments from me. have fun amongst yourselves.
As I’ve angered many people in my life with my attitude against fat people let’s seriously try and change my view.
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cmv: (UK) People focus too much on the career aspect of higher education and not the more personal and transformative aspects of higher education.
It really shocked me just how many people I have met in college/university that appear to be flatly disinterested in, or unenthusiastic about the subject they are currently... | Simply put, college for many people is a means to an end. Not many people are in a financial position to sacrifice 4+years of their life plus tens of thousands of pounds just for personal growth.
I'm currently doing my masters degree. It's really interesting, i enjoy it, and I'm learning a lot, but I likely wouldn't... | Easy attitude to have when you are well off. For the rest of us, we just want jobs
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I'm not well off at all.
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And yet you can put work on hold for four years (or at least work less while you go to school) and afford tuition fees? The only way that makes financial sense is the improved job prospects. If you're... | kkiws7 | cmv: (UK) People focus too much on the career aspect of higher education and not the more personal and transformative aspects of higher education. | It really shocked me just how many people I have met in college/university that appear to be flatly disinterested in, or unenthusiastic about the subject they are currently studying.
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It really shocked me just how many people I have met in college/university that appear to be flatly disinterested in, or unenthusiastic about the subject they are currently... | Simply put, college for many people is a means to an end. Not many people are in a financial position to sacrifice 4+years of their life plus tens of thousands of pounds just for personal growth.
I'm currently doing my masters degree. It's really interesting, i enjoy it, and I'm learning a lot, but I likely wouldn't... | Easy attitude to have when you are well off. For the rest of us, we just want jobs
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Maybe reconsider that statement. Most people are wage slaves living paycheck to paycheck, and college has been pitched as a one way track to a stable career and financial freedom.
I treated college ... | kkiws7 | cmv: (UK) People focus too much on the career aspect of higher education and not the more personal and transformative aspects of higher education. | It really shocked me just how many people I have met in college/university that appear to be flatly disinterested in, or unenthusiastic about the subject they are currently studying.
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CMV: Zombies Would be Unable to Use the Force
Sorry, this was kind of a random thought that came to me. Don't know if anyone disagrees with this. I just want to get this establish before Disney does something stupid with Star Wars.
As seen in Star Wars, the Force requires concentration and focus. Sure, sith might use... | Well you kind of said it in your op- "before Disney does something stupid" so what the mouse says, goes.
Also have you never heard the sad tale of Darth Plagus The Wise? Dude made force zombies.
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Did those zombies use the Force?
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Some of the [Korriban zombies](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Korriban_zombi... | >Zombies would be unable to really have feelings, being these effectively soulless beings
Doesn't that depend on which fiction the zombies are from?
Many stories have zombies having at least some residual feelings from when they were alive, reduced, sure. But not completely absent.
So if those were the types of zomb... | pkyy0s | CMV: Zombies Would be Unable to Use the Force | Sorry, this was kind of a random thought that came to me. Don't know if anyone disagrees with this. I just want to get this establish before Disney does something stupid with Star Wars.
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CMV: Some things about Pizzagate are compelling
I'm asking someone to change my view on this because I don't want to believe in a crazy conspiracy theory but some things about pizzagate are convincing to me. I thought this video from CBS covered most of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBSvUlkB61s Although the image... | If your best evidence for a "pedophile ring" is non-sexual, public images of children, and the fact that two completely unrelated people were pedophiles, you don't have much.
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Then what is the purpose of the hashtags? And it seems very odd to post a picture of a child restrained with tape regardless. I agree there... | If you don't want to be a conspiracy nut then don't listen to nutty conspiracies.
There is nothing true here.
There is no basement.
If there really a pedo ring they wouldn't host it out of a pizza place.
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Well thanks that really helped me out. I'll not pay attention to anything you don't approve of then.
--... | 7by19h | CMV: Some things about Pizzagate are compelling | I'm asking someone to change my view on this because I don't want to believe in a crazy conspiracy theory but some things about pizzagate are convincing to me. I thought this video from CBS covered most of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBSvUlkB61s Although the imagery comparison between the pizza places and pedoph... | MEGRRRCMRO | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Google CEO misinterprets James Damore
We have all read google memo: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/evzjww/here-are-the-citations-for-the-anti-diversity-manifesto-circulating-at-google
And Google CEO reaction: http://fortune.com/2017/08/08/google-anti-diversity-memo-sundar-pichai-letter/
Confronting t... | What's his point, if he's not talking about employees at Google? Doesn't it come off a bit disingenuous for him to swear scout's honor that he's not talking about his coworkers... while sending a message out to his coworkers about company policies in the exact field his company happens to be in? If nothing else, he's... | He said it while working at Google.
The target was people who work at Google.
He was talking about Google's work culture.
Thus, he was talking about Google Employees. And under the umbrella of his memo, female Google employees.
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> He said it while working at Google.
> The target was people who work at Goo... | 6srcew | CMV: Google CEO misinterprets James Damore | We have all read google memo: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/evzjww/here-are-the-citations-for-the-anti-diversity-manifesto-circulating-at-google
And Google CEO reaction: http://fortune.com/2017/08/08/google-anti-diversity-memo-sundar-pichai-letter/
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CMV: The ubiquity of the phrase "Ignorance is bliss" is dangerous, and should only be used as a sort of "Situational mindset"
I have noticed that the phrase has been used as a buzzword whenever people highlight or discuss about any uncomfortable topics, and I think that this way of using the phrase, especially in such... | Sure, if you ignore the obvious context of the phrase then you would have the consequences you describe. The phrase is more linked to the idea of something like children believing in Santa or being unaware of their parents’ financial struggles.
It explicitly does not mean that people shouldn’t be taught math because i... | I always assumed ignorance is bliss is an insult.
Have not met one person who uses it with a serious application to life.
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It's not an insult. And in some cases, "knowledge" that people imply isn't "worth getting".
If it's a war veteran talking about regular citizens who don't know what war is like, he's meaning... | zy109h | CMV: The ubiquity of the phrase "Ignorance is bliss" is dangerous, and should only be used as a sort of "Situational mindset" | I have noticed that the phrase has been used as a buzzword whenever people highlight or discuss about any uncomfortable topics, and I think that this way of using the phrase, especially in such magnitude, is dangerous because of several things:
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CMV-If a someone maliciously sells multiple people into sex slavery, s/he deserves to be raped. (Not legally, but morally).
If you are reading this, then I’m assuming that you don’t mind the darkness (considering the title), so I won’t be using euphemisms.
There is something called sex slavery. This is were people a... | Eye for an eye simply doesnt work as punishment. First, there is little evidence that such extreme punishment deters people from committing the crime- in the US for instance states with capital punishment have about the same murder rate as states without. Second, for this specific perspective who would do this? I refus... | Reading your other comments it seems to me that the position you are taking, and please correct me if I am wrong, is that "an eye for an eye" is morally correct system.
If that is the case then, it seems to me that your position really is that any one who rapes anyone (moraly) deserves to be raped. Because, of cour... | c5kjbv | CMV-If a someone maliciously sells multiple people into sex slavery, s/he deserves to be raped. (Not legally, but morally). | If you are reading this, then I’m assuming that you don’t mind the darkness (considering the title), so I won’t be using euphemisms.
There is something called sex slavery. This is were people are considered to be property and are raped repeatedly, generally speaking. It’s a truly vile practice.
In my opinion, if yo... | ParticularlyDarkSorr | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Pro-Lifers value life and do not value quality life in order to conclude that abortions should be banned at conception.
Pro-lifers value life and do not value quality life in order to conclude that abortions should be banned at conception.
If Pro-lifers value the quality of life then a human's right to pursue or... | You are creating a strawman argument which characterizes the pro-life position in a way that even its most ardent defenders would not endorse. Lets actually consider what they believe before assessing its absolute value.
1. Pro-lifers value life: Well yes, this is the idea. Specifically they believe that human life ho... | I think this misunderstands the fundamental emotional fuel for the pro-life movement.
The basic motivator is that no one should be able to end an innocent life for the sake of their own QoL - their own convenience.
The basic pro-choice counterargument is that a fetus is not a human life.
These two arguments have suc... | pkiliq | CMV: Pro-Lifers value life and do not value quality life in order to conclude that abortions should be banned at conception. | Pro-lifers value life and do not value quality life in order to conclude that abortions should be banned at conception.
If Pro-lifers value the quality of life then a human's right to pursue or continue one should not end at conception and instead should try to find an acceptable balance between a human's quality of l... | chaching65 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People tell me that despite the fact that I won't be affected much by climate change, I should still combat climate change so that everyone's lives can remain the same. However I don't see how I benefit from everyone's lives remaining the same.
Here are some examples:
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Think about the economics of this for a moment. Billion... | The world is far more interconnected than the basic line you drew. Let me run through your examples to show you.
>People tell me to combat climate change to ensure that people don't get their homes destroyed due to an increase in droughts/floods/hurricanes/tornadoes/etc, a sea level rise, etc. However my home isn't in... | 7br3e8 | CMV: People tell me that despite the fact that I won't be affected much by climate change, I should still combat climate change so that everyone's lives can remain the same. However I don't see how I benefit from everyone's lives remaining the same. | Here are some examples:
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CMV:I believe the current democratic systems are failing. We need a drastic change of the way we select and elect our leaders.
The main objection is that too many voters are allowed to vote on issues they have no knowledge about and too many politicians are completely unqualified for the office they occupy, which is a... | You see, here's the problem with this line of thought. I'll admit, it's something I used to seriously consider.
Most US (if that is the country you have in mind) citizens are given little to no political education. To have the state deny them adequate education to understand political issues, and then deny them the vo... | To quote my earlier response on this topic:
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CMV: Allowing androids (or robots that looks human) to live among us would cause more problems than they would solve
I get how humanoid robots could help us automate the boring stuff, that's being done right now by non-humanoid robots and software scripts that are made of pythons. But I can't see why anyone would thi... | Its not exactly CMV argument, but I think you are forgetting the forest to look at the trees:
IF we have androids advanced enough to reaosnably pass as human, we will be LONG past the point where we have non-humanoid LAI (limited artificial intelligence) and VAI (virtual AI).
At the very least, having funcitona... | >But I can't see why anyone would think that an android that is indistinguishable from humans is a good idea.
Not *anyone*? Not even those people over at r/MechanicalSluts or r/Cyberbooty?
>Another application is for the lonely or horny people could use them as companions or sex toys. Which would incur the risk that... | w8hpzi | CMV: Allowing androids (or robots that looks human) to live among us would cause more problems than they would solve | I get how humanoid robots could help us automate the boring stuff, that's being done right now by non-humanoid robots and software scripts that are made of pythons. But I can't see why anyone would think that an android that is indistinguishable from humans is a good idea. Some pre-conditions and assumptions made abo... | codesamura1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Reviews Ruin Movies
I know I'm not the first to probably say this but recently I've had some hard feelings for movie reviews and reviewing companies. I don't feel that movies can be judged in either "good" or "bad" when their are so many different shades and complexities to be taken under consideration. It doesn'... | You don't have to care about their opinions. But many people do. I, and most of my friends, care a lot about the technical aspects of a film: the writing, pacing, acting, cinematography, etc. So if I know there's a reviewer who has a good eye for these aspects, I can be sure that if they say the movie is good I'll a... | > I don't feel that movies can be judged in either "good" or "bad" when their are so many different shades and complexities to be taken under consideration.
I don't agree with this here. Quality of movies is not wholly subjective. Yes, the artistic and story telling aspects are, but other aspects are not they include:... | 8aqkmj | CMV: Reviews Ruin Movies | I know I'm not the first to probably say this but recently I've had some hard feelings for movie reviews and reviewing companies. I don't feel that movies can be judged in either "good" or "bad" when their are so many different shades and complexities to be taken under consideration. It doesn't seem to give a movie jus... | TurdleBoy | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The 2nd amendment is actively counterproductive at preventing tyranny.
In general, I have seen two principal defenses for there being an individual right to bear arms:
1. An individual right to self defense against crime/assault and the means to effectuate that self defense.
2. As a collective tool for prevent... | For the civil war, many union soldiers and forts in the south naturally defected to the CSA, with one notable example against this trend being Fort Sumter. That fort was the first battle in the war, which resulted in its surrender.
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Yes, that is accurate. Not sure it really speaks to the view I was stating in my ... | >I think the founders of the US government simply made a mistake in this respect, and that subsequent history has borne out that lots of arms in private hands will lead often to pro-tyranny rebellions or coups, not anti-tyranny rebellions.
That was not the original intent for the 2nd amendment (though a lot of people ... | cpfwlw | CMV: The 2nd amendment is actively counterproductive at preventing tyranny. | In general, I have seen two principal defenses for there being an individual right to bear arms:
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2. As a collective tool for preventing the rise of a tyrannical government via armed rebellion.
While the first... | huadpe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The idea of choosing your own pronouns is intrinsically wrong.
Language is how we think, it is how we comprehend every piece of information we obtain. When you are thinking silently to yourself, you are thinking using words. Even now, as you read this post, I am transferring thoughts from my brain into yours by u... | I mean, sure, you cannot force anybody to say anything they don't want to say, or to see you in a way they don't want to see you. But when somebody asks you to use a certain pronoun, they typically aren't expecting their words to psychically dominate you into using the pronoun of their choice. Instead, they're typica... | First of all, pronouns are a *really* arbitrary linguistic category. Some languages don't specify gender in pronouns at all. Some have a "neuter" pronoun. Some have different pronouns that the speaker chooses based on the formality of the situation. So, there's nothing strange about choosing a pronoun to project a ... | 6so9sk | CMV: The idea of choosing your own pronouns is intrinsically wrong. | Language is how we think, it is how we comprehend every piece of information we obtain. When you are thinking silently to yourself, you are thinking using words. Even now, as you read this post, I am transferring thoughts from my brain into yours by using words. That being said, trying to tell someone which words they ... | Captain613Jack | 13 | 13 | [
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CMV: The idea of choosing your own pronouns is intrinsically wrong.
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I'm not saying it's hard, I'm saying I disagree with the idea. Wouldn't be that hard to do heroin, but I have no plans on ever trying it.
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>I'm not saying it's hard, I'm saying I disagree with the idea.
If your friend Nicholas asks you to c... | 6so9sk | CMV: The idea of choosing your own pronouns is intrinsically wrong. | Language is how we think, it is how we comprehend every piece of information we obtain. When you are thinking silently to yourself, you are thinking using words. Even now, as you read this post, I am transferring thoughts from my brain into yours by using words. That being said, trying to tell someone which words they ... | Captain613Jack | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Bribing to get into a fancy college isn't a big deal
I keep seeing headlines about the "varsity blues" scandal, and I just don't think it's a big deal. They are sending people to prison over bribing to get kids into college.
But, wealthy parents have always given money to influence which school their child att... | I think the problem is bribing to get them through skills such as basketball, fencing, swimming, etc. That path is being taken away from actual people with talent who worked their ass off to get into that skill level in order to attend school that's the issue
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Thank you. Now, I'm not a competitive person, but I d... | While I agree that the American holistic approach to college admissions is pretty broken, people should face consequences for lying, cheating, bribing, etc to get into schools.
For every kid who gets in unfairly there is an honest, hard working kid who gets screwed out of a chance to enjoy the benefits of attending a... | zxwi5h | CMV: Bribing to get into a fancy college isn't a big deal | I keep seeing headlines about the "varsity blues" scandal, and I just don't think it's a big deal. They are sending people to prison over bribing to get kids into college.
But, wealthy parents have always given money to influence which school their child attends. In donations, tuition, and so forth. That funding he... | MassageToss | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: "Folks" is a reasonably inclusive, gender neutral term, and spelling it as "folx" is purely virtue signaling
I just want to start by saying this might be the only instance of something that I would actually, unironically call "virtue signaling" -- a term I usually disdain and find dismissive of social progress. B... | > But apparently, people are intent on spelling it "folx," with the "x" indicating inclusiveness. But adding a trendy letter to a word doesn't make the word more inclusive if the word was already inclusive.
It tells you about the author's intentions, which is an important part of conveying meaning. Word connotations ... | I had no idea folx was a thing.
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I can now be sure to spend some extra thought caring about how my actions and words affect my fellow citizens.
You have done a service by spreading the word.
Now, it seems you are saying that raising this awareness is a bad thing somehow.
... | mglg30 | CMV: "Folks" is a reasonably inclusive, gender neutral term, and spelling it as "folx" is purely virtue signaling | I just want to start by saying this might be the only instance of something that I would actually, unironically call "virtue signaling" -- a term I usually disdain and find dismissive of social progress. But in this case, that's exactly what I think it is.
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CMV: Louis C.K's Sexual Misconduct Isn't a Problem.
After reading the New York Times article on Louis C.K, I got the feeling that it was more of embarrassing a sexual deviant, then it was a news article about sexual harassment in an industry. Essentially I got the feeling that he behaved inappropriately but:
> There... | I mean, he certianly isn't on the level of Weinstein or Cosby here, but some of the things that he did did cross the line into inappropriate. We generally consider that any sexual requests in the workplace - particularly from anyone who is in a superior position - to be inappropriate. As I read the accusations, a few... | The way consent works, it's not "Yes until you say No", it's "No until you say Yes". If you ask someone if you can masturbate in front of them, and they think it's a joke, that is not consent. If they sit there in stunned silence that's not consent.
It's not Harvey Weinstein levels of assholery, but it is problematic. ... | 7bwvqh | CMV: Louis C.K's Sexual Misconduct Isn't a Problem. | After reading the New York Times article on Louis C.K, I got the feeling that it was more of embarrassing a sexual deviant, then it was a news article about sexual harassment in an industry. Essentially I got the feeling that he behaved inappropriately but:
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CMV: When police departments settle wrongful death lawsuits due to officer misconduct, half the settlement should be taken out of police pension funds
Whenever the police use excessive force, such as in cases like Philando Castile, Eric Garner, Walter Scott, etc., police officers often get acquitted in criminal cases.... | It seems to me like this would increase the division. The police force is very protective of their own and very, VERY difficult to investigate, but this would give every one of them a vested interest in doing whatever it takes to make sure the truth is covered up when there *is* a case of corruption/misconduct.
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You can punish individual bad actors by denying them access to the fund, but actually attacking the fund itself,... | cogcje | CMV: When police departments settle wrongful death lawsuits due to officer misconduct, half the settlement should be taken out of police pension funds | Whenever the police use excessive force, such as in cases like Philando Castile, Eric Garner, Walter Scott, etc., police officers often get acquitted in criminal cases. However, civil suits that follow usually are losing battle for police departments, forcing them to pay up and sustain damage to their public image.
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CMV: Maternity and paternity tests being taken at birth / during pregnancy should be standard.
Gonna keep it quick and simple (not really, I talk a lot sometimes) . It would help many men who have been cheated on from raising a child that isn’t theirs/ continuing a relationship with someone who cheated if they don’t ... | Are you arguing for this to be a norm or for it to be mandatory for everyone? Because if you want the parents to pay for them if they choose, then they can’t really be forced.
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Never forced. If you don’t want to do it, why should you have to. I’m just saying it should be normalized and made very easily accessible ... | Just saying that switched at birth scenarios almost NEVER actually happen nowadays. Hospitals have advanced technology and security measures in place that will not even let the baby leave the ward unless it’s with the right mom.
It’s like saying we need to implement extremely extensive voter verification technology s... | w96dpv | CMV: Maternity and paternity tests being taken at birth / during pregnancy should be standard. | Gonna keep it quick and simple (not really, I talk a lot sometimes) . It would help many men who have been cheated on from raising a child that isn’t theirs/ continuing a relationship with someone who cheated if they don’t choose to. It would also prevent “switched at birth” scenarios. Why don’t do we this already? I... | IfICommentDownvoteMe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Maternity and paternity tests being taken at birth / during pregnancy should be standard.
Gonna keep it quick and simple (not really, I talk a lot sometimes) . It would help many men who have been cheated on from raising a child that isn’t theirs/ continuing a relationship with someone who cheated if they don’t ... | Who will pay for all these tests? Isn't there better things we could spend that money on?
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Uh, the parents if they so choose? That’s a really poor answer to this tbh. If we have the money and feel like it’s worth our money, then yeah, we’ll pay for it. Because you think there’s better uses of *my* money, that’s y... | Are you arguing for this to be a norm or for it to be mandatory for everyone? Because if you want the parents to pay for them if they choose, then they can’t really be forced.
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Never forced. If you don’t want to do it, why should you have to. I’m just saying it should be normalized and made very easily accessible ... | w96dpv | CMV: Maternity and paternity tests being taken at birth / during pregnancy should be standard. | Gonna keep it quick and simple (not really, I talk a lot sometimes) . It would help many men who have been cheated on from raising a child that isn’t theirs/ continuing a relationship with someone who cheated if they don’t choose to. It would also prevent “switched at birth” scenarios. Why don’t do we this already? I... | IfICommentDownvoteMe | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Maternity and paternity tests being taken at birth / during pregnancy should be standard.
Gonna keep it quick and simple (not really, I talk a lot sometimes) . It would help many men who have been cheated on from raising a child that isn’t theirs/ continuing a relationship with someone who cheated if they don’t ... | I'd like to challenge your view about trust. Most specifically, you have preemptively dismissed responses about trust as being "virtue signaling." I'd like your definition of the term, because I've seen it thrown around a lot and it never seems to mean quite the same thing.
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No, I used the term virtue signaling be... | Who will pay for all these tests? Isn't there better things we could spend that money on?
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CMV: Natural talent is an important factor in one's success because talented people are more likely to end up spending more time working on their skills.
I don't think this opinion is too controversial, but I haven't really talked to people about it before, so it would be good to see how well it stands up to scrutiny.... | I think natural talent can be a helping factor in someone's success, but doesn't necessarily say anything about higher work ethic.
Someone with learned skill is likely to have built more resilience to their pursuit when they're used to the grind and have practiced the skill for hours and hours, therefore may have spen... | > Showing evidence/argument that work ethic isn't correlated with talent would CMV.
I didnt get work ethic from "talent" I got it through parental discipline. As in I was beaten bloody if I said "no" to feeding cows when it was -30 outside.
So now I own a construction company as a 26 year old and make a decent income... | zxlqmi | CMV: Natural talent is an important factor in one's success because talented people are more likely to end up spending more time working on their skills. | I don't think this opinion is too controversial, but I haven't really talked to people about it before, so it would be good to see how well it stands up to scrutiny.
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CMV: If one is concluding institutional sexism, more than just a gap in wages needs to be studied
My view is that one should not simply look at a gap in earned wages between men and women, and come to the conclusion that the cause is institutional sexism. That is either lazy and irresponsible, or it's a case of a pers... | For points 3-5 these just raise the question of why gaps like that arise. Why do women tend to require more flexible jobs? why do women generally work fewer hours? why do women generally take more family leave? These considerations you say must be made could themselves be forms of institutional sexism that by nature wo... | Who is making the claim that these things shouldn't be considered?
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It doesn't need to be overtly stated if one makes an accusation of sexism and only references data on wages.
View isn't about Rapinoe specifically, but she recently just said that she is paid less than men "doing the same job" (they aren't doing ... | mgi8fs | CMV: If one is concluding institutional sexism, more than just a gap in wages needs to be studied | My view is that one should not simply look at a gap in earned wages between men and women, and come to the conclusion that the cause is institutional sexism. That is either lazy and irresponsible, or it's a case of a person finding facts to support the conclusion that they want.
To change my view, please explain why o... | ZeusThunder369 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: All software should be free/libre
If you don't know, free software is software licensed under any license that respects the users freedom to copy, modify, and distribute source code to others in a completely legal way under the same free license. I am refering to free as in freedom not free as in free beer. I bel... | How do you feel about ROMs and hardware implementations? A lot of FOSS advocates (Stallman included) have this weird thing that software is somehow fundamentally different than hardware. Why is it important that an implementation of X in software is foss but not the same implementation if it is burned into a chip? What... | So as a creator, I should be forced to spend hundreds of hours developing something under the assumption that altruism from people will compensate me for my time?
This seems just like the idea of people wanting my stuff, but not wanting to pay for it.
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Donations are not the main source of revenue. You only hav... | 6ebv1h | CMV: All software should be free/libre | If you don't know, free software is software licensed under any license that respects the users freedom to copy, modify, and distribute source code to others in a completely legal way under the same free license. I am refering to free as in freedom not free as in free beer. I believe that all software should be libre b... | polyphetor | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Transgender people can never actually change their gender.
Im actually very liberal in what I believe people should be allowed to do sexually. Imo I don't give a damn if you practice polygamy, marry a car etc. As long as there is consent, idc. In addition to this, these people should be treated as any other. Howe... | If they were able to change every aspect about them so that any stranger or partner wouldn't be able to tell they were once another gender, would you consider this a successful change?
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If I couldn't tell I wouldn't care. Even if they look like the opposite gender though, they still cannot function as that gender ... | You are not making any distinction between sex and gender. That's the issue here.
Sex is biological. Female or male, XX or XY.
Gender is cultural and linguistic. English has three genders in speech - feminine, masculine, and neuter - and there's no limit to the number of genders it can theoretically have. "Man" and "... | c5c8ge | CMV: Transgender people can never actually change their gender. | Im actually very liberal in what I believe people should be allowed to do sexually. Imo I don't give a damn if you practice polygamy, marry a car etc. As long as there is consent, idc. In addition to this, these people should be treated as any other. However, today I was writing a CMV on if "me being unattracted to tra... | Blarsnir | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I don’t think being overly materialistic is nearly as common as people say is
I’m in Denmark, this might be more or less applicable to different countries.
I have a materialistic hobby: I like fashion. It brings me joy. I like making and maintaining clothes and putting different outfits together, and thus, it’s ... | 'I don’t think materialism and consumerism is a big societal problem. "
A very naïve statement, at best
Do you think there is climate change? If so what is driving it? The emissions are mostly from providing non-essential goods.
Ten of thousands factories, ships, trucks, oceans full of garbage most of which comes fr... | The problem with this change my view is that you're basically starting with the false assumption that a person being materialistic is a negative trait.
People derive pleasure from different things. My wife and I prefer to spend our money on experiences while mu sister in law prefers to buy nice things.
Different boat... | kk28o6 | CMV: I don’t think being overly materialistic is nearly as common as people say is | I’m in Denmark, this might be more or less applicable to different countries.
I have a materialistic hobby: I like fashion. It brings me joy. I like making and maintaining clothes and putting different outfits together, and thus, it’s more fun to have a great amount of clothes. This does not mean that this is my only ... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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I’m in Denmark, this might be more or less applicable to different countries.
I have a materialistic hobby: I like fashion. It brings me joy. I like making and maintaining clothes and putting different outfits together, and thus, it’s ... | I don’t have a huge issue with the want for nice things and material items. My big issue with consumerism comes down to two things: 1) it seems that many people who say they “just like having nice things” are constantly upgrading and throwing away things that are still nice and working in order to get the next new thin... | By definition, materialism is more than simply valuing material things.
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I have a materialistic hobby: I like fashion. It brings me joy. I like making and maintaining clothes and putting different outfits together, and thus, it’s more fun to have a great amount of clothes. This does not mean that this is my only ... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Non binary people aren't women, so I'm confused as to why people say they can be lesbians.
To preface this, I am a lesbian. However I am also a cis girl, and the most I have of a second opinion are non binary friends that I have.
But basically the title. Non binary people aren't really either men or women, and t... | a solution to this is just to move definition of sexuality from "attraction to a certain gender" to "attraction to a certain sex".
if you like people of the opposite sex,you are straight.
same sex,you are gay/lesbian.
neither,you are asexual.
both,you are bisexual.
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But basically the title. Non binary people aren't really either men or women, and they shouldn't be forced into those binary categories. Which is why I find it strange when non bin... | akoudagawaismywaifu | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Universities should be subject to significantly more oversight than they currently are, even if this means undermining academic freedom
**Preface**: As the title says, I think Universities (especially public ones) should be subject to much more oversight from the public and legislature than they are currently. Wh... | How do you solve the problem of experts in your proposed solution? After all, what makes you think any regulatory bodies you compose will have the knowledge \*necessary\* to evaluate universities? The experts are already governing themselves, and this is the result. If you don't \*like\* the result, I suggest you dive ... | >Complaining about democratic outcomes After a ballot measure supporting racial preferences failed, UCLA released this statement. By focusing on the people who don't like the result, and ignoring the people who do, the release is heavily implying that the people of California voted incorrectly. I get that's it sucks wh... | xjexr7 | CMV: Universities should be subject to significantly more oversight than they currently are, even if this means undermining academic freedom | **Preface**: As the title says, I think Universities (especially public ones) should be subject to much more oversight from the public and legislature than they are currently. While I recognize that this undermines principles of academic freedom, I think the situation is dire enough to warrant that, and that academic f... | No-Restaurant-4241 | 3 | 3 | [
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**Preface**: As the title says, I think Universities (especially public ones) should be subject to much more oversight from the public and legislature than they are currently. Wh... | I didn't even go to college, but some random thoughts:
Tenure came about so that professors could teach controversial things without fear of losing their position. Do you think there's still a place for that?
>but it seems like a reasonable policy might be to cap salaries at either the market clearing price (ie the... | How do you solve the problem of experts in your proposed solution? After all, what makes you think any regulatory bodies you compose will have the knowledge \*necessary\* to evaluate universities? The experts are already governing themselves, and this is the result. If you don't \*like\* the result, I suggest you dive ... | xjexr7 | CMV: Universities should be subject to significantly more oversight than they currently are, even if this means undermining academic freedom | **Preface**: As the title says, I think Universities (especially public ones) should be subject to much more oversight from the public and legislature than they are currently. While I recognize that this undermines principles of academic freedom, I think the situation is dire enough to warrant that, and that academic f... | No-Restaurant-4241 | 3 | 3 | [
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**Preface**: As the title says, I think Universities (especially public ones) should be subject to much more oversight from the public and legislature than they are currently. Wh... | So you object to the supposed politicization of universities and your response is to literally politicize universities by putting politicians in charge of who they can hire?
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CMV: The phrases "Pro-Life" and "Pro-Choice" are disingenuous and should be discarded for something more fitting.
The Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice debate is an old one. I don't want go get too deep in the general debate, but I think the entire debate can and should be boiled down to one simple idea, "When does life begin?".... | I don't think it's as simple as "when does life begin". Rather it's **"how much should we value the (potential) life of the child at various stages of development, and how much should we value the mother's right to bodily autonomy? At what point, and in what circumstances, does the value of one outweigh the other?"**
... | > It's much more accurate to say that one side believes that life begins in early pregnancy and the other believes that life begins later in the pregnancy. I'm not sure how you would describe that in simple terms
So for clarification, are you saying that essentially everyone is pro-choice at the beginning of the repro... | ibgcac | CMV: The phrases "Pro-Life" and "Pro-Choice" are disingenuous and should be discarded for something more fitting. | The Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice debate is an old one. I don't want go get too deep in the general debate, but I think the entire debate can and should be boiled down to one simple idea, "When does life begin?". Now, I know this question has been mentioned in the debate, but in my eyes the debate revolves almost entirely aro... | layze23 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Often a lot of things women call misogyny in the work place is being treated like a man
While in class a girl made the comment that in her class (which was male dominated) she felt like she was ignored and not respected as much because she's a woman. It made me think about my previous classes and work experience.... | I am the second most senior person and the only woman on a 9 person team. Up until last year, I was the lowest paid. Some of them men making more than me had significantly less work experience.
The crux of the problem is this: traits that are considered good for men are considered bad for women. I was criticized in r... | [https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/women-are-less-likely-men-to-be-promoted-heres-one-reason-why](https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/women-are-less-likely-men-to-be-promoted-heres-one-reason-why)
>They then look at the few men who are being appreciated and getting promoted and think 'the only re... | 16iwpnb | CMV: Often a lot of things women call misogyny in the work place is being treated like a man | While in class a girl made the comment that in her class (which was male dominated) she felt like she was ignored and not respected as much because she's a woman. It made me think about my previous classes and work experience. I can't recall a time where I was shown more respect or attention than a woman simply for bei... | RseAndGrnd | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: There is almost no reason to go to large events where the purpose is to protest/march to show unhappiness with serious societal problems as those who control such things will not be swayed by an appeal to humanity. As such violence is the only solution in this case.
I mean this is the most loving but despondent w... | The point of these events, while to show displeasure, also keep these complaints and upset citizens in the news cycle. By having a march, protest, or other event, media companies will cover it and keep those complaints in the news. This increases awareness and keeps it on the forefront of the national stage. While this... | This implies that the purpose of protests/marches are solely to make changes. Sometimes it's just a cathartic experience to gather in solidarity/memoriam of a common thing that's affected large groups of people.
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CMV: The Merit Based Immigration System is the Best Option for the US
This seems like a pretty obvious solution that is supported by mainstream Dems and GOPers. It has also been a success in Australia, Canada, the UK, and New Zealand.
A merit based immigration system will help reduce income inequality in the nation, ... | Exclusively merit based? Or is there any room for unskilled labor? The issue weve had in the past with unskilled labor has been a lack of visas given the demand for labor on the US side and a surplus of labor on the Mexico side, and not enough visas to supplement them.
While there are poor people in the US that coul... | so instead of giving immigrants low paying jobs- we import people to take to take the good high paying jobs?
no, we have enough population. let low skilled imigrants come work thier way from the bottom up.
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This really didn't provide any facts or arguments against a merit based system, so you did not change ... | a1bndx | CMV: The Merit Based Immigration System is the Best Option for the US | This seems like a pretty obvious solution that is supported by mainstream Dems and GOPers. It has also been a success in Australia, Canada, the UK, and New Zealand.
A merit based immigration system will help reduce income inequality in the nation, help fill high skilled jobs (which currently have many vacancies), and ... | PoliticalStaffer22 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Pro-Life Argument is essentially Socialist
I believe The Pro-Life argument could easily be categorized as socialist in its nature.
The pro-life argument is that life begins at the moment of conception and that the zygote/fetus is a person with the right to life. Also often noted by the pro-life side in the a... | “Socialism” can be defined in many ways, but I’ve never heard anyone say that the duty of the parent to take care of the child is socialist. If anything, socialism removes the importance of the familial unit and attempts to replace it with the “societal unit”.
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This is the crux of the issue, you've taken two different things and said they're the same. It'd be like saying arguments for a monarchy are democratic because "An elected leader" (the King) is in charge.
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How are they two different things? When I say "society", the argument against... | xik3lu | CMV: The Pro-Life Argument is essentially Socialist | I believe The Pro-Life argument could easily be categorized as socialist in its nature.
The pro-life argument is that life begins at the moment of conception and that the zygote/fetus is a person with the right to life. Also often noted by the pro-life side in the abortion debate, abortion procedures are all directly ... | MtnDewTV | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The government should have to limit spending to the sum of all taxation.
for example, the government earns 2 trillion dollars in taxes, they should only be allowed to spend 2 trillion on anything. I believe this because we’re in serious debt, so this would prevent any further deficit, and possibly a surplus if th... | So what should we cut in order to get below that spending mark?
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We could half military spending, and cut welfare by around 400 billion to get there.
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Cutting military spending by that large of an amount comes with some pretty extreme economic consequences. Those companies the government buys from are a subst... | 1) It's pretty widely agreed by economists that deficit spending during particularly deep recessions is worth the cost.
2) Also, given a nominal economic growth rate of around 4% we can sustain a deficit of around 4% or GDP indefinitely.
3) Deficit spending time is sometimes necessary during emergencies. Imagine a hu... | 744zdz | CMV: The government should have to limit spending to the sum of all taxation. | for example, the government earns 2 trillion dollars in taxes, they should only be allowed to spend 2 trillion on anything. I believe this because we’re in serious debt, so this would prevent any further deficit, and possibly a surplus if there was left over money. The reason that we should do this is because the more ... | kevlarballoons | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Just because you are offended doesn’t mean you are right
I’m completely open to a change of mind here.
It seems like people who are part of a group that has been discriminated against seem to be more fired up lately than in the past. Furthermore, I’ve never seen so many accusations of racism, homophobia, sexism... | If someone is offended, they are right that they are offended. You don't get to tell them that they're not offended. You're right that maybe some people assume the worst unjustly, but if the worst thing they do is insult some people in an online thread, who cares?
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Kind of supporting OPs point. Racism and homophobia can be used as subjective defe... | v2w0ac | CMV: Just because you are offended doesn’t mean you are right | I’m completely open to a change of mind here.
It seems like people who are part of a group that has been discriminated against seem to be more fired up lately than in the past. Furthermore, I’ve never seen so many accusations of racism, homophobia, sexism, etc, particularly in conversations where the person wasn’t in... | OutdoorzExplorerz | 3 | 3 | [
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Cmv: Dating apps are generally both useful and enjoyable
My general view is that dating apps are useful and enjoyable, I’ll be making my argument through two prongs each addressing one of my praises for them
Regarding their usefulness
1. They allow one to understand how they are perceived; most people on dating apps... | >They allow one to understand how they are perceived; most people on dating apps reply with the intent of the recipient enjoying the reply, meaning you can learn about how you’re perceived by others based on the way you present yourself
Useful? Sure. Enjoyable? Not if youre in the lower status camp.
>Given the number... | 1. It is not how people perceive you. 10% of men get almost all attention of dating apps. That doesn’t translate to real life whatsoever
2. Given the low number of matches i get, i don’t have the luxury to really filter people out other than if i just think they are weird or ugly
3. Dating is in general DOWN , peop... | 16ilw4c | Cmv: Dating apps are generally both useful and enjoyable | My general view is that dating apps are useful and enjoyable, I’ll be making my argument through two prongs each addressing one of my praises for them
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My general view is that dating apps are useful and enjoyable, I’ll be making my argument through two prongs each addressing one of my praises for them
Regarding their usefulness
1. They allow one to understand how they are perceived; most people on dating apps... | >They allow one to understand how they are perceived; most people on dating apps reply with the intent of the recipient enjoying the reply, meaning you can learn about how you’re perceived by others based on the way you present yourself
Useful? Sure. Enjoyable? Not if youre in the lower status camp.
>Given the number... | You are a woman, aren't you?
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I am
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That was... pretty obvious. Shouldn't you include that in your view? Like "Cmv: Dating apps are generally both useful and enjoyable *for women*" | 16ilw4c | Cmv: Dating apps are generally both useful and enjoyable | My general view is that dating apps are useful and enjoyable, I’ll be making my argument through two prongs each addressing one of my praises for them
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1. They allow one to understand how they are perceived; most people on dating apps reply with the intent of the recipient enjoying the reply... | truffleburrata | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Stock markets are a zero sum game
In simpler terms, for you to make money from stocks, other(s) have to lose the equivalent amount.
Let's say you buy $10K worth of XYZ company (which does not pay dividends). The stock price goes up 10% in the next few months. You sell for $11K. The $1K profit that you made has t... | Are you only refering to the secondary market of the stock market?
What about all the companies that raise capital via an IPO or stock issuance to the market?
Company gets upfront cash while investors have the ability to receive future cashflows.
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No I am referring to the stock market itself.
If a company rais... | >You sell for $11K. The $1K profit that you made has to come from somewhere (because you are not the Central Bank and you cannot money from thin air)
Who did I sell the share to?
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Every trade has a buyer and a seller. The buyer pays what they think the stock is worth, usually with the hope of selling it for a pro... | v2q25k | CMV: Stock markets are a zero sum game | In simpler terms, for you to make money from stocks, other(s) have to lose the equivalent amount.
Let's say you buy $10K worth of XYZ company (which does not pay dividends). The stock price goes up 10% in the next few months. You sell for $11K. The $1K profit that you made has to come from somewhere (because you are n... | arahant7 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: if we are really serious about climate change, we shouldn’t be making what we consume from halfway around the world
I just read that China emits more CO2 than the rest of the Western Hemisphere combined.
Kind of obvious why, isn’t it?
If China is making the most steel, and burning all that coal, oil and natura... | Resources are limited. It's not easy to drill for oil in some places, while it is abundant in others. It's not easy to fuel industry without a willing and ready work force to do so. America had these things but China managed to undercut in many ways. Global shipping doesn't need to be as ugly as it is, stronger regulat... | The idea that the US is outsourcing all their emissions to China was actually just dealt with seriously and debunked in a great and thorough blog post:
https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/no-the-us-didnt-outsource-our-carbon
I won't pretend to understand all the economics and tables but it seems convincing and I haven'... | xj3jug | CMV: if we are really serious about climate change, we shouldn’t be making what we consume from halfway around the world | I just read that China emits more CO2 than the rest of the Western Hemisphere combined.
Kind of obvious why, isn’t it?
If China is making the most steel, and burning all that coal, oil and natural gas to make the cheap crap we consume in North America, then our greed and their greed is killing the world. If this is ... | PicardTangoAlpha | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: A monkey and a typewriter, given infinite time, will NEVER recreate Shakespeare
Title is a little tongue-in-cheek, as I suspect the thought experiment is. I believe--hope, without evidence--that the idea is similar in gist to the Schrödinger Cat, which is a bit of a joke used to illustrate a very important point.... | Monkeys don't speak English but that was never the claim, the idea wasn't that eventually the monkey will understand Shakespeare and thus rewrite that, but rather that it's gonna hit random keys on the keyboard and *eventually* those random keys will happen to be in the exact order as Romeo and Juliet, or King Lear, or... | That's ridiculous. Infinity implies every possibility. Given enough time and randomness, it is certain that it will happen.
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If something is certain to happen, then it is not random. It would be possible that true randomness could produce an infinite set of A's.
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You must not understand infinity. It is hard t... | 16igpwy | CMV: A monkey and a typewriter, given infinite time, will NEVER recreate Shakespeare | Title is a little tongue-in-cheek, as I suspect the thought experiment is. I believe--hope, without evidence--that the idea is similar in gist to the Schrödinger Cat, which is a bit of a joke used to illustrate a very important point. But I dismay a bit because when I see this example used, people seem to think it is a... | taco_tuesdays | 3 | 3 | [
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Cmv: The LGBT black lives matter combo flag is ugly and just bad
I'm going to preface this by saying that I am part of the LGBT community and none of what I'm going to say is against the movements just my distaste of them being crammed together.
So this new flag is just fundamentally ugly right? Like brown never loo... | Tbh I agree with you here but let me try my best to come up with a counter argument: black people would be really helpful to our community because they have suffered oppression for so long that they understand it and are better equipped to deal with it(in general)so therefore we should make an active attempt to include... | They very fact that you prefaced this with your political views and social role just makes it sound ridiculous and frankly just gives you less credibility. You views should have no bearing on anything relating to aesthetics.
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Probably why they then went on to explain their reasoning in a pretty lucid fashion.
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So this new flag is just fundamentally ugly right? Like brown never looks good on a flag and you are taking an good iconic flag and turni... | TheseConversations | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Human exceptionalism is an outdated idea and has no rational basis.
Human exceptionalism is the idea that humans, compared to all other species, are special and more deserving than other animals of moral, philosophical, and legal consideration. But what I'm interested in more specifically is the idea that humans ... | Humans have (complete) language. Non-human animals do not. That's the real meaningful difference.
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Language differences between humans and the next most linguistic animal aren't even really well understood. But any specific language is more of a technology than anything. Several species have the requi... | >We made it to the moon
I would argue that this is all the proof we need for a belief in human exceptionalism. Where the only species on earth capable of colonizing somewhere off planet and spreading life throughout the universe.
Sounds pretty exceptional. And it would take millions of years for another species to ev... | ibvmj8 | CMV: Human exceptionalism is an outdated idea and has no rational basis. | Human exceptionalism is the idea that humans, compared to all other species, are special and more deserving than other animals of moral, philosophical, and legal consideration. But what I'm interested in more specifically is the idea that humans have a monopoly on logic/reason/whatever other goalpost cognitive feat.
D... | Whatifim80lol | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: George Floyd doesn't deserve to be immortalized as he is
Context: I'm bring this up because of Obama's comment on Floyd in response to the Uvalde shooting recently, and I used this as an argument in a comment that I believe deserves it own post.
First off, I don't think he deserved to die. I believe any death of... | I don’t know why you mentioned drug use twice in here, do you think there’s something about someone using drugs that should make their murder less sympathetic? It’s not like he was killed in a drug deal.
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In OP’s defense, drug taking is deemed risk taking behavior and would be likely to increase the number of poli... | Do you need to have lived a perfect life to be immortalized?
Ben Franklin was kind of a piece of shit, for instance. As was Andrew Jackson. Only a small minority of people have problems immortalizing them on our money
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One of those individuals invented lots of devices that are the basis of many of the amenities w... | v2qys6 | CMV: George Floyd doesn't deserve to be immortalized as he is | Context: I'm bring this up because of Obama's comment on Floyd in response to the Uvalde shooting recently, and I used this as an argument in a comment that I believe deserves it own post.
First off, I don't think he deserved to die. I believe any death of an individual during detainment or while in police custody mus... | Rhetorical_Argument | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: a practical way to reduce gun violence is requiring insurance
***UPDATE:***
*I was convinced by several different commenters that using insurance to enforce safe storage and handling rules is overly complex. If the SCOTUS were to allow my insurance idea, they would probably also allow a simpler scheme like a pe... | A HUGE problem with this is it will ensure only the rich or at least middle/upper middle own guns. As poorer people will be priced out of ownership.
It will almost immediately be called racist/Jim Crow esque.
"You're preventing poor black people from legally owning guns but ensuring rich white people can." (I don't a... | Despite it being illegal to do so, people still drive uninsured. What stops people from owning uninsured guns?
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*I was convinced by several different commenters that using insurance to enforce safe storage and handling rules is overly complex. If the SCOTUS were to allow my insurance idea, they would probably also allow a simpler scheme like a permitting system where the state or country requires proof of secure ... | yetrident | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Compared to other developed nations, America is a “shithole” country for all but the wealthy and well-connected
TL;DR - The US lacks in almost every quantifiable category I can think of, especially when compared to European and Scandinavian nations. Only exception being if you have money and/or influential connec... | The US ranks #8 on the education index and our colleges are the best in the world. People from all over the world come to the US to study. Using anecdotal evidence of dumb Americans isn't a good way to support your point. I agree that I have met MANY dumb Americans, but if you haven't met hicks in other countries fo... | Unskilled blue collar worker (which is the lowest rank on the pyramid) can make the greatest living in America compared to any other country in the world barring Qatar oil rich like countries.
A great house can be had for around $100,000 (excluding outliers like SF) for someone unskilled who makes $30,000 a year with... | ibssr3 | CMV: Compared to other developed nations, America is a “shithole” country for all but the wealthy and well-connected | TL;DR - The US lacks in almost every quantifiable category I can think of, especially when compared to European and Scandinavian nations. Only exception being if you have money and/or influential connections. Cue long list of stats and sources.
Repost removing references to the global you-know-what that ends in 19. I ... | DrPorkchopES | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Islam is murderously homophobic
TL;DR: Dang this got long. I spend most of the next 6 paragraphs defending myself from the charge of racism and hatred. If this bores you, you can skip to the bullet points under "Actual claims". Sorry everything is so formal, specific, and falsifiable. I'm deathly terrified of sli... | I suspect you are conflating those in power in the Muslim world with rank and file Muslims. There are few Muslim-majority democracies and fewer still meeting western norms of it.
My parents are Muslim. Indeed, my father converted from Judaism to Islam to marry my mother. My siblings and I were raised secular in weste... | The word "murder" is generally used to mean intentional wrongful death. The Muslims believe they are exacting justice by punishing a crime.
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I think it's murder to kill someone for being gay. But ... | 74arw3 | CMV: Islam is murderously homophobic | TL;DR: Dang this got long. I spend most of the next 6 paragraphs defending myself from the charge of racism and hatred. If this bores you, you can skip to the bullet points under "Actual claims". Sorry everything is so formal, specific, and falsifiable. I'm deathly terrified of slipping up in my language.
## I don't h... | hallashk | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: People who commit serial murder, mass murder, and genocide are still human.
Over and over, I have seen people who intentionally do terrible things referred to as 'inhuman'. For example, if a person commits genocide, we often say that this person was 'inhuman' or 'not human'. That this person had no humanity, or s... | Nobody thinks they are "not human"
What they mean is they are acting out of accordance with normal human social rulesets.
It's not a *literal* meaning here. It's quite common for people to use turn of phrase that aren't meant to be taken *literally*.
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I guess we'll see whether that is the case.
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What.. u... | You use the word maniac yourself. Normal humans aren't maniacs. Not being a maniac is a normal human quality, being a maniac makes you inhuman as far as that quality is concerned.
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>You use the word maniac yourself. Normal humans aren't maniacs. Not being a maniac is a normal human quality, being a maniac makes yo... | 16iee3q | CMV: People who commit serial murder, mass murder, and genocide are still human. | Over and over, I have seen people who intentionally do terrible things referred to as 'inhuman'. For example, if a person commits genocide, we often say that this person was 'inhuman' or 'not human'. That this person had no humanity, or somehow lost their humanity along the way.
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CMV: Trump has done nothing of substance since being elected to office.
This is kind of a counter to the other post made recently about Trump being a great president.
He pointed out things like the economy, which was growing before he even took office and it actually seems to be growing less then it really should si... | Sustaining the economic recovery and helping it achieve record-low unemployment levels that even the previous administration deemed impossible are not minor accomplishments. He did more than maintain steady improvement or stability; he kept momentum going well past what most could have conceived. But there are many mor... | https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/us/politics/us-canada-nafta-deal-deadline.html
and this the NYT. i think this was both substantive and beneficial.
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Trump gets credit for fixing something he broke?
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how did he break nafta? he renegotiated the terms under threat of unilaterally withdrawing | a11ihh | CMV: Trump has done nothing of substance since being elected to office. | This is kind of a counter to the other post made recently about Trump being a great president.
He pointed out things like the economy, which was growing before he even took office and it actually seems to be growing less then it really should since he inherited and extremely strong economy that Obama fixed.
The opi... | gill8672 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no reason other than tradition in this day and age where words referring to fecal matter should be considered vulgar or taboo in the civilized world
So basically what I am saying is that the word “shit” should no longer be considered vulgar or curse words.
I understand up till the early 20th century, fe... | Fecal matter still contributes to host of health risks even if not on pandemic scale. Our modern hygiene haven't removed the safety concerns about shit.
Shit today is same shit it was two hundred years ago.
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We also have the science today to understand fecal matter is a natural and necessary byproduct of human/an... | What *should* be a bad word?
We want bad words. We want things that have extra meaning and emphasis. I don't think sex is back but fuck makes an excellent curse word.
Of all things, why did you pick shit here? Because if someone told me "You aren't worth feces" or "This is dung" I would consider that a super negative... | 16ibaon | CMV: There is no reason other than tradition in this day and age where words referring to fecal matter should be considered vulgar or taboo in the civilized world | So basically what I am saying is that the word “shit” should no longer be considered vulgar or curse words.
I understand up till the early 20th century, fecal matter and waste have contributed to a myriad of pandemics and it was definitely reasonable to consider words that refer to them as taboo. But we live in the 21... | YoungEmperorLBJ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Honor/Shame cultures lie about history.
My goal is to be open and vulnerable which might toe the PC line, but I honestly hope to not offend; however, I do tend to be a bit polemic in hopes that someone might set me straight. That is my stated objective after all.
From my perspective, honor/shame cultures can’t b... | Sure, but so does literally every other culture. Direct lies are one thing, but lies can also be by omission. History is not everything that happened in the past, it's the narrative we construct from that. We leave the bits out that we don't like **all the time** in Western culture. We can't even help it--the past ... | All cultures lie about their history.
Happy Thanksgiving... and if you don't get that joke, don't google it.
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I predicted that you would make my point.
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The problem is that while our past atrocities might not be secret and acknowledged by some there is still a ton of white washing that goes on by ... | 9xljla | CMV: Honor/Shame cultures lie about history. | My goal is to be open and vulnerable which might toe the PC line, but I honestly hope to not offend; however, I do tend to be a bit polemic in hopes that someone might set me straight. That is my stated objective after all.
From my perspective, honor/shame cultures can’t be trusted to be historically accurate.
My poi... | BubbaDink | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: Companies, even corporations, should crowdsource.
I feel like companies, even corporations, that don't greenlight a project for money reasons should crowdsource. I mean even stuff as big and influential as Disney+. If Disney+ asked for funding to create an app for the switch for example I believe it would do two ... | Companies don't crowdsource apps because of many reasons:
- Difficult to monetize (who owns it?). Open source software still has a license after all (GPL for instance)
- Difficult to impossible to guarantee quality
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- Massive exposure for proprietary data
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I agree there is a setup already in place for products which will clearly be popular and sell well. The main function of the crowdsourcing, would be for (as you said) the niche groups who can't get a product they really need. It is really more for the customer than the company.
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[deleted] | xhyvmd | cmv: Companies, even corporations, should crowdsource. | I feel like companies, even corporations, that don't greenlight a project for money reasons should crowdsource. I mean even stuff as big and influential as Disney+. If Disney+ asked for funding to create an app for the switch for example I believe it would do two things. A: it would obviously be met with critics, any b... | ThatAnonJerk | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Telling people to smile is rude.
I think that it is rude to tell people what to do and how to live their lives if it's not negatively impacting you or anyone else. Telling people to dress a certain way, live a certain lifestyle that they don't want and so on is rude and I think telling someone who's minding their... | I'm a school photographer. Telling people to smile is my full time job.
It's not rude, it makes the pictures look better.
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Look better according to who's standards? Because at the ends of the day it's their picture. So I feel they can choose how they want to look like
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in the context of school children havi... | It’s really just not that serious to some people. Saying someone should smile isn’t the hyper patronizing, freedom crushing suggestion you view it as in the eyes of some. People that believe your day is made better with being positive would naturally suggest people do it more.
They don’t know what they’re signing up ... | 16i6ll3 | CMV: Telling people to smile is rude. | I think that it is rude to tell people what to do and how to live their lives if it's not negatively impacting you or anyone else. Telling people to dress a certain way, live a certain lifestyle that they don't want and so on is rude and I think telling someone who's minding their own business to smile falls completely... | Actual_Parsnip4707 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: White people need to get over our fear of the N-word
What do white racists and white progressives have in common? They're both terrified of using the N-word because of the social ramifications or consequences. It's a word that carries with it a deep history of pain, humiliation, and power over other human beings.... | I don’t not say it because I’m scared lol. I don’t say it because I’ve no right to and the people it’s targeted at (generally) prefer that it not be used by someone not of their race which is a very very VERY small thing to be requested of me.
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Sounds very reasonable. But if you were interviewing Samuel Jackson an... | Why is protecting yourself counter-productive?
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Sometimes self protection is maladaptive. For example, when we hear beliefs that run counter to what we hold deeply true, our brains will treat the new information as dangerous. This is a form of self-protection which quite obviously can be counter-productive.
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CMV: Drivers should not go every other car at a yield sign or one lane road.
When driving a car and seeing a yield sign, drivers should follow common right-of-way notions. Drivers should not be letting every other car pass when traveling over a one lane bridge or in other similar situations. It is horribly inefficie... | The problem might be that without an external force when does one side stop going to let the other side through? If there's a large number of cars on both sides, whichever side happens to get going first gets to go for a very long time, completely stopping any traffic going the other way.
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I don't exactly have an ... | > If any cars are traveling directly behind them, they should go as well (to a reasonable extent)
What is reasonable? disagreement over this seems like a recipe for collisions.
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I agree this is a major point of contention, but I was trying to express that a car a quarter mile away cannot also try to act as if the... | 74jo10 | CMV: Drivers should not go every other car at a yield sign or one lane road. | When driving a car and seeing a yield sign, drivers should follow common right-of-way notions. Drivers should not be letting every other car pass when traveling over a one lane bridge or in other similar situations. It is horribly inefficient to wait for the other car to cross the bridge before you can go. Instead, wh... | mat_n_cheese | 5 | 2 | [
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CMV: Netflix Password Sharing is Cheating.
First, I do share mine, and also got a share for another service from my in laws.
What I don't get is people getting up in arms about sharing password with a person four States away. And Netflix trying to cut on that.
Of course I get it if you travel, or your son went to co... | Netflix limits you to x number of streams anyway. I believe it's 3. why does it make a difference if they are in the same location or different locations? If i'm paying for something that allows me to have 5 users, and there's nothing that stops those users from being in different locations, it's not cheating. it's get... | Netflix literally used password sharing as part of their advertisements. It is pretty reasonable for people to assume that the service is in support of password sharing if they announce to the world that they support it and offer it as part of their service.
So when they decide that they're going to increase their pri... | v1tiqj | CMV: Netflix Password Sharing is Cheating. | First, I do share mine, and also got a share for another service from my in laws.
What I don't get is people getting up in arms about sharing password with a person four States away. And Netflix trying to cut on that.
Of course I get it if you travel, or your son went to college, and a lot of edge cases. But let's be... | JustOneSexQuestion | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Netflix Password Sharing is Cheating.
First, I do share mine, and also got a share for another service from my in laws.
What I don't get is people getting up in arms about sharing password with a person four States away. And Netflix trying to cut on that.
Of course I get it if you travel, or your son went to co... | Netflix literally used password sharing as part of their advertisements. It is pretty reasonable for people to assume that the service is in support of password sharing if they announce to the world that they support it and offer it as part of their service.
So when they decide that they're going to increase their pri... | Netflix limits you to x number of streams anyway. I believe it's 3. why does it make a difference if they are in the same location or different locations? If i'm paying for something that allows me to have 5 users, and there's nothing that stops those users from being in different locations, it's not cheating. it's get... | v1tiqj | CMV: Netflix Password Sharing is Cheating. | First, I do share mine, and also got a share for another service from my in laws.
What I don't get is people getting up in arms about sharing password with a person four States away. And Netflix trying to cut on that.
Of course I get it if you travel, or your son went to college, and a lot of edge cases. But let's be... | JustOneSexQuestion | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: You shouldn't drive a rear wheel drive car in the snow if you can avoid it
There's a reason why front wheel and four wheel drive vehicles are becoming increasingly popular in Northern climates, they simply have better traction when accelerating in slippery conditions and are easier to control in those conditions.... | Its fun
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Up until you get stuck...
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I've only gotten stuck once and that was when a cop forced me into a ditch in the snow. Other than that, I'm only stuck when everyone else is stuck. Like one year where we get 2-4 FEET of snow (very unusual for here). | A good set of snow tires make a much bigger difference than whether a car is FWD, RWD, or AWD. Though, of course, AWD with proper set of snow tires is preferable. An even bigger factor is experience in how to drive in snow.
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How effective is experience in snow driving?
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Very effective. It doesn't matter wha... | nxhleo | CMV: You shouldn't drive a rear wheel drive car in the snow if you can avoid it | There's a reason why front wheel and four wheel drive vehicles are becoming increasingly popular in Northern climates, they simply have better traction when accelerating in slippery conditions and are easier to control in those conditions. This situation is compounded when it's slippery AND you're on a hill.
Sure, the... | overhardeggs | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no such thing as positive discrimination (i.e. having a quota to hire women). It's all negative against someone.
So first I should add some background. I am arguing as a Caucasian Male of European descent, so I understand if people think that I'm potentially out of the loop.
It seems to me that having ... | Positive discrimination is not just about having a diverse workplace. Positive discrimination aims at tackling structural discrimination in a given society.
You mention an example of the fundamental problem in your own explanation: there are 30 women for 70 men in STEM studies (I don't know the exact ratio, but I thin... | There IS such a thing as positive discrimination. The point of the economy is to efficiently allocate goods among people. Certain groups of people, most of the time, are shown to be less efficient than others in various fields(by research and statistics). We do not need anti-discrimination. There is no point in hiring ... | a0tquh | CMV: There is no such thing as positive discrimination (i.e. having a quota to hire women). It's all negative against someone. | So first I should add some background. I am arguing as a Caucasian Male of European descent, so I understand if people think that I'm potentially out of the loop.
It seems to me that having hiring quotas won't help with anti-discrimination. While you might hire more of a previously 'disadvantaged' group, you are stil... | Bardzly | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: there is no point in canceling John Lennon or any other rockstar
Canceling a single rockstar is hypocrisy. If you take the case of John Lennon, a large portion of rockstars made at least one of his mistakes, and another large portion made worse mistakes and another portion, perhaps smaller, made all the same mis... | Nobody has canceled John Lennon. Calm down dude
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in fact, it's become an inside joke among Beatles fans that he was "cancelled". but I also referred to other artists. Elvis was canceled around the time the biopic was released. Overall, I think this is bullshit.
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How, specifically, was Elvis "canceled"?
--... | When I discover a musician has crossed a line that I feel is unacceptable I stop listening to them, and if it comes up in conversation I’ll say why I don’t listen to them.
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this is completely acceptable and I have done it. but I think it's nonsense to try to create a collective boycott of these artists.
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If ... | 1dcj40t | CMV: there is no point in canceling John Lennon or any other rockstar | Canceling a single rockstar is hypocrisy. If you take the case of John Lennon, a large portion of rockstars made at least one of his mistakes, and another large portion made worse mistakes and another portion, perhaps smaller, made all the same mistakes as him. Music names such as Elvis, Chuck Berry, David Bowie, Joh... | first_doctor_63 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The socially liberal view that there is no definition of how a woman should behave or dress or feel, is at odds with the socially liberal view that sex orientated men or women that feel a certain way can be different genders, and in some views different sex
**EDIT: my view has changed - thank you to all those who... | You're overthinking things.
Just because a socially liberal person may feel that people should be able to present themselves to the world as it suits them, doesn't mean we need to check our brains at the door and acknowledge that gender norms, identity, and expression aren't a thing.
And yes. You are conflating gen... | And yet for some reason you don't have the same qualms about cisgender people, correct? You're here saying that a trans woman who wants to identify as a woman and express their femininity through certain choices of dress and appearance - that's at odds with our social liberal idea that people of any gender can present ... | 16hgv8b | CMV: The socially liberal view that there is no definition of how a woman should behave or dress or feel, is at odds with the socially liberal view that sex orientated men or women that feel a certain way can be different genders, and in some views different sex | **EDIT: my view has changed - thank you to all those who commented, I get it now and thanks for being gentle with me lol And to anyone I haven't replied to, still thank you, I'll get around to it. Will leave the post up for context (please someone just say if you'd rather I delete it!)**
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CMV: People who smoke weed every day do it for a reason. No level headed person has such a strong desire to get high all the time.
Hear me out: Occasionally getting high is understandable, but I've never met someone who smokes weed ALL DAY every day, who also didn't suffer from some sort of internal issue. It could be... | You’ve qualified nothing in your argument. What defines level headed? I know plenty of happy people with good jobs who smoke every day. Weed is psychologically addictive, that’s why people smoke it a lot, however that describes no definitive constant amongst all weed smokers. Stating that they are unhealthy inherently ... | Does the same hold true with any sort of vice (such as drinking), or is this something specific to or more prevalent with weed, in your opinion?
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CMV: Military training is emotional and psychological abuse
So I will upfront admit I don’t know much about military training outside of movies and stuff that I read online and from military subreddits. So forgive me if this sounds absurd and I’m very much open to having my mind changed.
So I hope we can agree that p... | Abuse is essential to break and remold the ego in the shape of the military. This is a feature, not a bug unfortunately.
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I guess I don’t understand how even if one never sees combat they come out of that mentally healthy. It seems like it would be leave permanent trauma or even worse, teach them that such abuse i... | Military training covers a gigantic range of subjects. Everything from marching to satellite image analysis.
You seem to be talking basic training, and at a guess primarily US marine basic. I really doubt you think technicians are emotionally abused when training to fuel F35s.
Can abuse occur in training, sure. But ... | 16hfkur | CMV: Military training is emotional and psychological abuse | So I will upfront admit I don’t know much about military training outside of movies and stuff that I read online and from military subreddits. So forgive me if this sounds absurd and I’m very much open to having my mind changed.
So I hope we can agree that psychological/emotional abuse is a very bad thing. However it ... | MaidKnightAmber | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Making students read Shakespeare and other difficult/boring books causes students to hate reading. If they were made to read more exciting/interesting/relevant books, students would look forward to reading - rather than rejecting all books.
For example:
When I was high school, I was made to read books like "Rome... | By high school, you should be past the 'learning to love reading' stage in your educational career. You are in the 'learn to analyze' stage of your career. Shakespeare's plays are well known and heavily analyzed, which makes it easy to check if an analysis has basis or if the student just made something up.
Plus, ther... | Why do you hate having to read carefully, sometimes multiple times, in order to get full understanding of something?
Your view seems to depend on this somehow being an inherently unpleasant process, but I've never found that to be the case. I enjoy analyzing poetry for meaning (Shakespeare is poetry).
I also find it... | a0yapq | CMV: Making students read Shakespeare and other difficult/boring books causes students to hate reading. If they were made to read more exciting/interesting/relevant books, students would look forward to reading - rather than rejecting all books. | For example:
When I was high school, I was made to read books like "Romeo and Juliet". These books were horribly boring and incredibly difficult to read. Every sentence took deciphering.
Being someone who loved reading books like Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings, this didn't affect me too much. I struggled t... | mattaphorica | 3 | 3 | [
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Cmv: Poking a hole in a condom is considered rape and there should be different degrees of rape just like there are murder!
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CMV: Adding “Phobic” to the end of a word is simply a way to villify people that think differently than you and closes the door to dialogue and opens it to extemism on both sides.
Phobia is defined as: an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation
Calli... | Someone who is passionately anti-gay *does* have an irrational fear of homosexuality. Even if there is some trauma or other "reason" for this view, that's the *textbook* definition of an irrational fear. Any psychologist would tell you that. If seeing gay people kiss or hearing about a gay wedding makes you uncomforta... | What would be a better term for someone who has an irrational fear of a certain lifestyle, religion or etc?
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Unless you’re trained in that area and have seen that person, you are not supposed to make such a diagnosis.
The issue is to not use it as an attack, nor is it productive (sorry to come back to this, my wi... | f2hqum | CMV: Adding “Phobic” to the end of a word is simply a way to villify people that think differently than you and closes the door to dialogue and opens it to extemism on both sides. | Phobia is defined as: an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation
Calling someone islamophobic, homophobic, transphobic is a way to try and shame those who either have a reason to dislike said thing (think 9/11 families or someone that spent their youn... | Secretitnerd1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Adding “Phobic” to the end of a word is simply a way to villify people that think differently than you and closes the door to dialogue and opens it to extemism on both sides.
Phobia is defined as: an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation
Calli... | Many spiders and scorpions can kill or seriously injure you, it's rational and grounded to be wary of them, but disliking and being afraid of all spiders is irrational and called arachnophobia.
Getting trapped in confined space can be life threatening in many situations, it's rational and grounded to not want to get ... | Someone who is passionately anti-gay *does* have an irrational fear of homosexuality. Even if there is some trauma or other "reason" for this view, that's the *textbook* definition of an irrational fear. Any psychologist would tell you that. If seeing gay people kiss or hearing about a gay wedding makes you uncomforta... | f2hqum | CMV: Adding “Phobic” to the end of a word is simply a way to villify people that think differently than you and closes the door to dialogue and opens it to extemism on both sides. | Phobia is defined as: an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation
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CMV: 'Hey" is a perfectly acceptable first message on dating apps
Since I'm a guy I'll be using the phrase women but this applies to men as well. I just don't know whether this is as big of an issue. Anyway I notice a lot of women have the "I don't respond to Hey" in their profile which is fine if that's their thing, ... | If a lot of women have "don't say hey" in their bio, and your goal here is to get into their pants, then "hey" is obviously not an acceptable way to get what you want.
If I go to a diner for a sandwich, and they give me a lump of charcoal between two moldy pieces of bread, that's not acceptable despite meeting the re... | How do you expect someone to respond to you saying "hey"? Because I imagine the most likely response is them just saying "hey" back in which case we're back to square 1, where you need to come up with something more to say, so why don't we just cut out the frivolous "hey", "hey" and get started where it's actually inte... | 16h99jk | CMV: 'Hey" is a perfectly acceptable first message on dating apps | Since I'm a guy I'll be using the phrase women but this applies to men as well. I just don't know whether this is as big of an issue. Anyway I notice a lot of women have the "I don't respond to Hey" in their profile which is fine if that's their thing, but at the same time there's nothing wrong with hey.
Just like in ... | RseAndGrnd | 3 | 3 | [
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