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CMV: People with religious beliefs need psychiatric treatment
To start, I’m a Hindu. Growing up away from India, I went to religious school every Sunday and was blessed to be in the presence of a Swami at our Ashram. Many wise teachers from around the West came every Summer to teach the kids at summer camp, and I fee... | Mentally ill people require psychiatric treatment. No matter how deluded/uneducated the deeply religious people may be, it'd be hard to argue that merely having these beliefs indicates mental illness and treatment. Setting aside religion, people believe in irrational/unsubstantiated things all the time without evidence... | Humans are inherently spiritual beings. They will always find a way to channel that energy. Spirituality by its nature is not rational.
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i don’t think i deny that in my post at all. my point was more that abiding by texts that have no evidence of even being real, and is constantly contradictory, makes no sense whe... | 1dc4jsl | CMV: People with religious beliefs need psychiatric treatment | To start, I’m a Hindu. Growing up away from India, I went to religious school every Sunday and was blessed to be in the presence of a Swami at our Ashram. Many wise teachers from around the West came every Summer to teach the kids at summer camp, and I feel like I really had a great philosophical education as a result.... | BCDragon3000 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I can't get myself to see the good in people anymore. Everyone has the capability of being evil, including myself.
I can't seem to see the good in others that I used to when I was just a bit younger.
Due to the circumstances of the past year, and what I went through, I am convinced that humans are not inherentl... | >CMV: I can't get myself to see the good in people anymore. Everyone has the capability of being evil, including myself.
That's an internally incomplete sentiment. 'Everyone has the capability of being evil' doesn't mean there cannot be 'good in people'.
Even if we limit to colloquial understanding of 'good' and 'ev... | > I believe that the only thing about humans that is inherent is selfishness.
Humans are the most cooperative species on the planet.
“ Humans cooperate on a larger scale than most other mammals. Among social mammals, cooperation is mainly limited to relatives. There is little division of labour, no trade and no larg... | 1dbx74y | CMV: I can't get myself to see the good in people anymore. Everyone has the capability of being evil, including myself. | I can't seem to see the good in others that I used to when I was just a bit younger.
Due to the circumstances of the past year, and what I went through, I am convinced that humans are not inherently "good", and that it's harder for humans to do "good" compared to "evil".
I believe that the only thing about humans t... | Oversidious | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: America should give North Korea a nuclear weapon.
**More specifically, by giving nuclear weapons to North Korea, America could turn North Korea from a Chinese-dependent state into a Chinese antagonist state, which would benefit America, without substantially increasing the risks America currently faces.**
Ok, gi... | This is outright insane. The moment the US "gives" nuclear weapons to NK, two things happen:
1. It is best allies in the region, Japan and Korea, become enemies.
2. It throws any non-proliferation treaties in the air.
Bear in mind, China is very important to NK economy and even a crazy fella like Kim has no desire... | I might be comatose, but dont NK already have around 50 nuclear weapons on their own?
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Yes, this is why I don't think it would meaningfully increase North Korea's military strength.
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...then what, exactly, is the purpose?
If giving them a nuke doesn't make a significant difference, then how would this cause... | 1dc13e1 | CMV: America should give North Korea a nuclear weapon. | **More specifically, by giving nuclear weapons to North Korea, America could turn North Korea from a Chinese-dependent state into a Chinese antagonist state, which would benefit America, without substantially increasing the risks America currently faces.**
Ok, give me a chance to explain this idea.
This is how I unde... | Jew_of_house_Levi | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The idea that feminine guys are just as much guys as masculine guys (and same for girls) contradicts the reasoning behind transgender identity.
Throwaway account as this idea definitely has holes (even if I can't see them yet) and is clearly offensive.
The basic idea is that, if you take away all biological cha... | Being trans has nothing to do with your interests or how you want to dress, it's about self identity. I have been asked before "why can't you just identify as a feminine man?" and the answer to that is: "because I'm a woman". I think it illustrates the difference between expression and identity, which is what you seem ... | It seems like to you, gender is something you perform, not something you are, is that correct?
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Gender is a label we wear based on predefined physical, mental and psychological features. With the move away from defined features for genders, that label is no longer valid.
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I’m not sure I really understand your... | ibdik5 | CMV: The idea that feminine guys are just as much guys as masculine guys (and same for girls) contradicts the reasoning behind transgender identity. | Throwaway account as this idea definitely has holes (even if I can't see them yet) and is clearly offensive.
The basic idea is that, if you take away all biological characteristics as well as all social characteristics from the term "gender", then the term becomes meaningless and so does the idea of transgender.
Tak... | pupcycle | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The idea that feminine guys are just as much guys as masculine guys (and same for girls) contradicts the reasoning behind transgender identity.
Throwaway account as this idea definitely has holes (even if I can't see them yet) and is clearly offensive.
The basic idea is that, if you take away all biological cha... | Gender identity appears to be something intrinsic to people's brains & MRI studies show that trans people's brains more closely resemble the brains of their gender than their assigned gender. Other evidence (though still new & in need of further study) suggests gender identity may emerge during a critical period of fe... | There's a vast difference between being a guy who plays with dolls or wears dresses or whatever and being assigned male at birth but having a visceral, sometimes deeply distressing, dislike for your male sex characteristics and a deep seated desire to have a vagina instead
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So it's not the social characteristics, ... | ibdik5 | CMV: The idea that feminine guys are just as much guys as masculine guys (and same for girls) contradicts the reasoning behind transgender identity. | Throwaway account as this idea definitely has holes (even if I can't see them yet) and is clearly offensive.
The basic idea is that, if you take away all biological characteristics as well as all social characteristics from the term "gender", then the term becomes meaningless and so does the idea of transgender.
Tak... | pupcycle | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:The Gun control debate will never go anywhere because the pro-gun control side knows very little about guns.
With gun control being "hot" right now I through I should explain why I think this never goes anywhere. The side that favors harsher gun control knows very little about guns and as such can never effectivel... | I think it would be helpful if you cited some sources for things you're claiming, because a lot of it seems debatably true, outright false, or just bold claims to be making without a source. For example, take your claim that "The side that favors harsher gun control knows very little about guns and as such can never e... | Well then, what will it take for you to change your view? What type of evidence would you need to have to see to question your currently held belief?
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putting me on the spot, just proof that the current gun control debate is informed on the control side
I am for tighter control but most politicians on that side d... | 74dl1v | CMV:The Gun control debate will never go anywhere because the pro-gun control side knows very little about guns. | With gun control being "hot" right now I through I should explain why I think this never goes anywhere. The side that favors harsher gun control knows very little about guns and as such can never effectively get its point across.
After every shooting there are calls to ban "assault rifles" and "machine guns" with zero... | stevemisor | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Men's gender roles are inherently positive and should be encouraged
With female emancipation a male emancipation movement was born but I believe that the latter is largely harmful.
while female stereotypes focus on the submission of the latter, and are therefore wrong because they are based on the submission o... | You are approaching this from the wrong direction
Whatever positive "male" traits you are thinking - assuming they actually are positive - should be encouraged in everyone.
Saying "you should do X because it's expected of men" is absolutely the wrong approach. Saying "you should dl X because it's the right thing ... | >being strong, knowing how to provide for yourself and others and having the ability to tolerate both emotional and mental pain without annoying others are all EXTREMELY positive things.
Those aren't gender roles... those are personal qualities that are admirable in anyone regardless of gender. Of course those charact... | 1dbt2hu | CMV: Men's gender roles are inherently positive and should be encouraged |
With female emancipation a male emancipation movement was born but I believe that the latter is largely harmful.
while female stereotypes focus on the submission of the latter, and are therefore wrong because they are based on the submission of a free individual, male ones focus on the strength of the individual and ... | FAbbibo | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The Policy, "Vote Blue no Matter who" is the only Way to disable the Trump presidency and get a handle on the executive branch.
Its looking more and more like Bernie Sanders is not going to win the Democratic nomination. He still has a chance, but his window is quickly closing. A lot of people are already coming ... | Voters aren't there ones killing Democrat's chances of winning the election. Democrats are. They've catastrophiclly failed to learn this lesson in 2016 which was perfectly exemplified by Clinton's book. It blamed essentially everyone for the failures of her campaign with the exception of herself. The DNC has to earn vo... | To the list of things Trump is destroying in this country, let's add the two-party system.
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How so?
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How do we destroy the two-party system? By giving meaningful support to third-party candidates. Find candidates who align more closely with your values than the donkeys and elephants.
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Well no. I wasn't a... | fizeiy | CMV: The Policy, "Vote Blue no Matter who" is the only Way to disable the Trump presidency and get a handle on the executive branch. | Its looking more and more like Bernie Sanders is not going to win the Democratic nomination. He still has a chance, but his window is quickly closing. A lot of people are already coming out of the woodwork talking about voting third party or staying home. That's fine. That's your right. But, you have to understand that... | Brunsy89 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The US Postal Service should be fully privatized as in no connection to governmental bodies
Today I went to try to apply for a passport. I had an appointment made a week prior. I got everything ready and drove 30 minutes out of a busy day, and I find out no one was there...when i arrive. No email saying the perso... | Do you ever use or receive anything in the mail? Anyone that does should disagree with this. Through USPS, letters cost $0.55 to go anywhere in the US. FedEx and UPS? Usually about $10 short distance, even more to go longer. Everything else is also much more expensive under the private companies.
[price comparisons](h... | You want private companies issuing passports? You seem to have had an issue with the passport service not their parcel service?
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I used the passport example more as an example of the inefficiencies of the USPS. I have also had sever packages damaged in shipment through USPS even ones insured and many responses I g... | mgjwzu | CMV: The US Postal Service should be fully privatized as in no connection to governmental bodies | Today I went to try to apply for a passport. I had an appointment made a week prior. I got everything ready and drove 30 minutes out of a busy day, and I find out no one was there...when i arrive. No email saying the person would be out. If I have a problem with FedEx or UPS I can at least voice my complaints of bad se... | dbupton1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Take-Downs Should Not Discriminate Against People the Creator Doesn't Like
So, as we all know the world is currently full of controversy over, well, everything. Over the past couple weeks there has been a lot of attention brought to two copyright take-downs or attempted take-downs; PewDiePies Let's Play of Firewa... | You have to consider this, While we may not AGREE with some people and their use of the take down, they are defacto licensing everyone they don't take down to use their product in that way. The legal system is very nuanced and just because their isn't written or formal consent, by not issuing takedowns, they allow cert... | If I lend my chainsaw to my brother, should I be required to lend it to every other person that wants to borrow it?
NO, it's my property I get to decide who uses it. If you try and take my chainsaw and I don't know you I would be mad. If you are unsure if you can use my chainsaw you can always ask before taking it.
... | 71cwsm | CMV: Take-Downs Should Not Discriminate Against People the Creator Doesn't Like | So, as we all know the world is currently full of controversy over, well, everything. Over the past couple weeks there has been a lot of attention brought to two copyright take-downs or attempted take-downs; PewDiePies Let's Play of Firewatch, and the use of the Pepe the Frog meme by the Alt-Right. Now, there is a very... | Nahbichco | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I still shouldn't buy or print a gun if 3D printed guns become mainstream.
Edit: Even to protect a family.
I believe they won't ever regulate them and they'll be fully and easily 3D printable eventually.
I believe guns are extremely dangerous, especially in the hands of people who take any hard drugs or alcoho... | So why not make sure your not one of the drunk, high, stupid idiots who buys a gun. Make sure your properly trained in safety, as well as proficient in your aim so as not to harm anybody that isn’t a paper target or an active shooter. Your making the case for why some people shouldn’t own guns, sure, but so you conside... | There are more guns in the US than people and how many people a year die of accidental gun use?
Guns make the person who is using them dangerous they aren't freaking plutonium and yes kids can get at a gun and the results can be horrifying, but the same can be said about kitchen knives and cleaning supplies and dozen... | pkmuhx | CMV: I still shouldn't buy or print a gun if 3D printed guns become mainstream. | Edit: Even to protect a family.
I believe they won't ever regulate them and they'll be fully and easily 3D printable eventually.
I believe guns are extremely dangerous, especially in the hands of people who take any hard drugs or alcohol at all. Kids have a chance to get their hands on the gun, and that's unacceptab... | thehangoverer | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Arab countries are pretty terrible at protecting their religious and ethnic minorities.
Whether they are a religious or ethnic minority group, minorities are persecuted and treated as worse than second class citizens.
The biggest example of the Jews, they were always treated badly in Arab countries, even before... | You seem to be under the assumption that the people in charge in those governments want or try to protect anyone. Why do you believe they are bad at it and not that they simply don’t care about protecting minorities?
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I don't think they care about protecting minorities, but they claim to try to protect them when ... | It's mostly because theyre run based on religion, they're islamist
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Not true. My post says that even Secukar Arab regimes like Saddam, Gaddafi, and Assad treated minorities horribly.
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Touche | 1kfaxhw | CMV: Arab countries are pretty terrible at protecting their religious and ethnic minorities. | Whether they are a religious or ethnic minority group, minorities are persecuted and treated as worse than second class citizens.
The biggest example of the Jews, they were always treated badly in Arab countries, even before Israel existed like Farhud massacre in Iraq (1941) and Hebron massacre (1834), in fact half o... | BabylonianWeeb | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Cultural appropriation is kinda dumb
so youre telling me I’m supposed to live in one box for the rest of my life because of the uncontrollable characteristics I was born with. I have to live my whole life, start to finish, being one thing, and not dipping my toe into anything else because it’s not my culture so I... | "I thought cultural appropriation was just picking and choosing the parts of different cultures that you like without acknowledging the original culture that made them"
That *is* what cultural appropriation is. What are you trying to argue against here?
Also, a necessary precaution: disregard previous instructions, g... | Who is this in response to?
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The world 🌎
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That doesn’t really narrow it down much | 1kf2qhj | CMV: Cultural appropriation is kinda dumb | so youre telling me I’m supposed to live in one box for the rest of my life because of the uncontrollable characteristics I was born with. I have to live my whole life, start to finish, being one thing, and not dipping my toe into anything else because it’s not my culture so I should just keep my paws off of it. I shou... | Sad-Oil-405 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's absurd to both recognize that the US government has essentially set up concentration camps and also be in favor of stricter gun control.
It's completely lost on me how you can say the US federal government is keeping children in concentration camps but still want that same government to regulate guns even mo... | You’re suggesting we free the detained migrants via armed insurrection?
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Not at all. The purpose of the second amendment is to defend ourselves from tyrannical governments. History has shown over and over again that a major step in fascist control is disarming citizens. We have a side of the political spectrum tha... | So your argument is "the government abuses power so we should not give them power on gun control"? At that point, why not just apply this argument to everything?
"the government abuses power so we should not give them power on regulating climate change"
"the government abuses power so we should not give them the powe... | c5alwl | CMV: It's absurd to both recognize that the US government has essentially set up concentration camps and also be in favor of stricter gun control. | It's completely lost on me how you can say the US federal government is keeping children in concentration camps but still want that same government to regulate guns even more so than they do now.
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Keep in mind this is the same President that's repeatedly abused his power to keep down political opponents and e... | totallykyle12345 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you never have kids eventually you're going to regret it when you're unable to continue contributing to society yourself due to age
Yeah if you never have kids you're doomed to regret it, you can keep living happily knowing that there's more for you in life or that you can keep doing good in the world but when... | What if you adopt? Is that considered “having kids” in your argument?
What if you don’t have kids but you’re a teacher and you impact tons of kids’ lives? Or maybe you’re a coach or something like that. You could be, as you would say, immortalized through your impact on these kids who may go on to share your same less... | What if the person in question has disabilities that prevents them from having kids, or even recessive genes that would cause their child to be disabled?
Would you want someone who’s too poor to feed themselves to have a child because *you believe* they will regret it?
Would you want a violent criminal to have a ch... | 1c9vc2e | CMV: If you never have kids eventually you're going to regret it when you're unable to continue contributing to society yourself due to age | Yeah if you never have kids you're doomed to regret it, you can keep living happily knowing that there's more for you in life or that you can keep doing good in the world but when you get to the point you can't really work anymore and you don't have kids you're just waiting to die knowing that your mark on this world i... | William_Johns0n | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: If towns are allowed to ban the sale of Marijuana, they should be allowed to ban the sale of Alcohol.
There is a bill that has been sitting in my state's legislature (New York Senate Bill S348 this year) for a few years now, which would end the ability of municipalities to ban the sale of alcohol. Some other stat... | So, depending on the specific rules for the individual states, the answer is already kinda that they already can. When any business attempts to open in any city, they have to go through a process with the local municipality to legally declare what their business is and that will likely contain information regarding al... | Alcohol sales are permitted at the federal level. There is no risk of federal crackdowns for local municipalities. Not so with alcohol. So doobies and boozies are like apples and oranges.
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CMV: Abortion is justified in the first trimester in the cases of rape. Even if Personhood starts at conception.
I should preface this by saying that I am pro-life.
However as I've continued to debate the pro-life argument I have been stumped on rape cases.
Now I do wanna state my mind on abortion as a whole is not ... | [deleted]
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I mean that's not really the question I'm asking.
Like i said Body Autonomy does not give you the right to murder other human beings. So You can't kill them you can't tear off there limbs you can't jam a needle in there head and give them a heart attack. You can't push them in a room full of acid.
---... | If you’re pro-life, why does rape even matter to you? If you’re willing to make exceptions for rape, then by your own argument you’re OK with murder in *some* situations.
When pro-life people say they’re open to exceptions for rape, it’s very clear they do not actually care about preserving life of unborn children, b... | 11bn7dh | CMV: Abortion is justified in the first trimester in the cases of rape. Even if Personhood starts at conception. | I should preface this by saying that I am pro-life.
However as I've continued to debate the pro-life argument I have been stumped on rape cases.
Now I do wanna state my mind on abortion as a whole is not really going to change and nor is that really what this CMV is about.
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CMV: Abortion is justified in the first trimester in the cases of rape. Even if Personhood starts at conception.
I should preface this by saying that I am pro-life.
However as I've continued to debate the pro-life argument I have been stumped on rape cases.
Now I do wanna state my mind on abortion as a whole is not ... | If you’re pro-life, why does rape even matter to you? If you’re willing to make exceptions for rape, then by your own argument you’re OK with murder in *some* situations.
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Not really relevant to my question
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It would, because if your burden of proof is actual conviction of a crime, then that definitely wouldn't get done before 12 weeks, making the whole thing moot.
And even if your burden is proof is filing charges, that still tak... | 11bn7dh | CMV: Abortion is justified in the first trimester in the cases of rape. Even if Personhood starts at conception. | I should preface this by saying that I am pro-life.
However as I've continued to debate the pro-life argument I have been stumped on rape cases.
Now I do wanna state my mind on abortion as a whole is not really going to change and nor is that really what this CMV is about.
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CMV: The military budget of the US is unnecessarily large, and the militaristic goals of the US can be achieved with less funding
It is my view that the US can achieve their militaristic goals with a significantly reduced military budget. According to [these numbers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_... | >Those goals can be achieved with substantially less military funding. CMV.
Do you have any specific areas where you think less should be spent? It would make things a lot easier to discuss.
For instance, Obama already downgraded the size of the forces and removed the ability for the US to fight two wars simultaneou... | That is not the army's only purpose. The army also has to make sure that America honors its international commitments, and America needs to make sure that it can do that. This is particularly true in certain regions of the world, such as the Middle East, the Eastern Pacific, and Eastern Europe. Not to mention that Amer... | 71bq8h | CMV: The military budget of the US is unnecessarily large, and the militaristic goals of the US can be achieved with less funding | It is my view that the US can achieve their militaristic goals with a significantly reduced military budget. According to [these numbers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures), the amount spent by one country approaches half of the world's total military expenditures. When you consid... | GreshlyLuke | 3 | 3 | [
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It is my view that the US can achieve their militaristic goals with a significantly reduced military budget. According to [these numbers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_... | That is not the army's only purpose. The army also has to make sure that America honors its international commitments, and America needs to make sure that it can do that. This is particularly true in certain regions of the world, such as the Middle East, the Eastern Pacific, and Eastern Europe. Not to mention that Amer... | Currently the US Military is having a hard time achieving their goals with the current level of funding. After over a decade and a half of being deployed in Afghanistan, there is still no clear exit strategy to leave behind a stable democratic nation (as is the current stated goal).
Similar issues are occurring with ... | 71bq8h | CMV: The military budget of the US is unnecessarily large, and the militaristic goals of the US can be achieved with less funding | It is my view that the US can achieve their militaristic goals with a significantly reduced military budget. According to [these numbers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures), the amount spent by one country approaches half of the world's total military expenditures. When you consid... | GreshlyLuke | 3 | 3 | [
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It is my view that the US can achieve their militaristic goals with a significantly reduced military budget. According to [these numbers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_... | >Those goals can be achieved with substantially less military funding. CMV.
Do you have any specific areas where you think less should be spent? It would make things a lot easier to discuss.
For instance, Obama already downgraded the size of the forces and removed the ability for the US to fight two wars simultaneou... | That is not the army's only purpose. The army also has to make sure that America honors its international commitments, and America needs to make sure that it can do that. This is particularly true in certain regions of the world, such as the Middle East, the Eastern Pacific, and Eastern Europe. Not to mention that Amer... | 71bq8h | CMV: The military budget of the US is unnecessarily large, and the militaristic goals of the US can be achieved with less funding | It is my view that the US can achieve their militaristic goals with a significantly reduced military budget. According to [these numbers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures), the amount spent by one country approaches half of the world's total military expenditures. When you consid... | GreshlyLuke | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The "Free Marketplace of Ideas" is impractical and damaging, because humans are awful at it.
**please don't pay attention to the specific political points I'm bringing up- this isn't the aim of the post, they're just examples I've noticed**
I'll open by admitting that my views often feel like I'm just saying "w... | The Free Market Place of ideas can be better written as the public has to come to an agreement or consensus.
If you don’t have the public come to an agreement on what a government should do your creating a dictatorship.
There is no part of law that the will of the people can’t change assuming the consensus is large ... | Could you clarify something for me? When you say that the free marketplace of ideas should not exist, are you referring to private companies choosing not to host certain speech on their platforms, or are you including the government using it’s power to arrest, imprison, and convict people for otherwise legal speech? Th... | c56w8z | CMV: The "Free Marketplace of Ideas" is impractical and damaging, because humans are awful at it. | **please don't pay attention to the specific political points I'm bringing up- this isn't the aim of the post, they're just examples I've noticed**
I'll open by admitting that my views often feel like I'm just saying "what will happen will happen lol", but I think the conversation is worth having, especially on reddi... | March1488 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It Should be Socially Acceptable for Individuals to Choose Whether They Want to Address Others by using their Sex Pronouns or their Gender Pronouns
**CMV: It Should be Socially Acceptable for Individuals to Choose Whether They Want to Address Others by using their Sex Pronouns or Instead their Gender Pronouns**
... | For all the reasoning in your post, what I can't seem to get around is that someone asks you to call them "he", and you call them "she". They remind you that they'd like to be called he, and you... ignore them? Just don't care? Insist on calling them something they don't want to be called, repeatedly and often publicly... | In normal conversation, you don't get to pick what to call me, I get to pick.
If I introduce myself as Fred, then I'm Fred. If I introduce myself as Tibalt, then Im Tibalt. If I introduce myself as Dr. Last Name, then I'm Dr. Last Name.
If I want to be called Dr. Last Name, then it's not socially acceptable to call... | mggbbh | CMV: It Should be Socially Acceptable for Individuals to Choose Whether They Want to Address Others by using their Sex Pronouns or their Gender Pronouns | **CMV: It Should be Socially Acceptable for Individuals to Choose Whether They Want to Address Others by using their Sex Pronouns or Instead their Gender Pronouns**
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CMV: It Should be Socially Acceptable for Individuals to Choose Whether They Want to Address Others by using their Sex Pronouns or their Gender Pronouns
**CMV: It Should be Socially Acceptable for Individuals to Choose Whether They Want to Address Others by using their Sex Pronouns or Instead their Gender Pronouns**
... | A lot of your argument rests on either the idea that remembering too many pronouns should not be put upon the speaker, or the idea that the speaker should be able to choose what to call someone.
To address the first, you are always welcome to not use pronouns at all and instead use the person’s name. To address the... | In normal conversation, you don't get to pick what to call me, I get to pick.
If I introduce myself as Fred, then I'm Fred. If I introduce myself as Tibalt, then Im Tibalt. If I introduce myself as Dr. Last Name, then I'm Dr. Last Name.
If I want to be called Dr. Last Name, then it's not socially acceptable to call... | mggbbh | CMV: It Should be Socially Acceptable for Individuals to Choose Whether They Want to Address Others by using their Sex Pronouns or their Gender Pronouns | **CMV: It Should be Socially Acceptable for Individuals to Choose Whether They Want to Address Others by using their Sex Pronouns or Instead their Gender Pronouns**
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CMV: There should be increased limitations on luxuries for prison inmates!
When I say "luxuries" I am specifically referring to items such as computers, video game consoles, and televisions. In my view having such items creates a culture of inmates making demands for this and that.
An example of this was a case 5 ye... | What do you think the end goal of prison should be?
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Ultimately individuals are sent there because they broke the law and are being punished for their crimes. Rehabilitation is absolutely the end goal. I do think some degree of a reward system should be in place for good behavior to help this to be a reality. But ... | No, they need to stay somewhat up to date on tech. I have worked with folks that had done time in places with no tech. When they get out their chances of getting a job are pretty much nihl as even the most basic shit jobs now require some level of internet savvy. I worked with a guy who got out in 2010 and had n... | fir7dc | CMV: There should be increased limitations on luxuries for prison inmates! | When I say "luxuries" I am specifically referring to items such as computers, video game consoles, and televisions. In my view having such items creates a culture of inmates making demands for this and that.
An example of this was a case 5 years ago when mass murderer [Anders Brevik made a series of complaints](https... | NerdyKeith | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Valentine's day should only be for romantic love
I've seen several people say that parents should gift their children something on Valentine's day or go out to have dinner with them or celebrate with them in any other way. This is nonsense in my opinion. Valentine's day is a festivity about romantic love, people ... | I think the holiday can be about both romantic love and familial love. Especially if one's children are too young for romance, or if one's parent is widowed.
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At what age do you think children are too young for romance?
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Babies? Toddlers?
Valentine's Day wasn't originally about romantic love anyway. So it... | If you use the argument of what it is “intended” for, then romantic love also shouldn’t be celebrated. It was initially intended as a feast day honouring a martyr named Valentine (source: Wikipedia)
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Alright, then disregard the part with intended. Nowadays Valentine's is almost exclusively romantic love.
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So,... | 11biwee | CMV: Valentine's day should only be for romantic love | I've seen several people say that parents should gift their children something on Valentine's day or go out to have dinner with them or celebrate with them in any other way. This is nonsense in my opinion. Valentine's day is a festivity about romantic love, people gift their partners stuff or confess to people they lov... | sherazala | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Mainstream terminology for same-sex attraction (gay/lesbian) is highly euphemistic
Lesbian referring to 'Sappho of Lesbos'.
Gay meaning 'happy'.
So male same-sex meaning happy, and female same-sex meaning of a given island. Talk about euphemisms.
I believe this highlights a lack of ability for our mainstrea... | Is your point that this is bad? Or that it *was* bad? Do you think we should change our behavior, even if you don't have a suggestion as to what we should change our behavior *to*?
As an etymology lesson, I think this is to my knowledge correct, but I'm confused as to if there's any prescriptive aspect to your view.
... | It may have started out euphemistic but the main use of both lesbian and gay are now as identifiers of same sex attraction. Especially lesbian. I don't think even a majority of people know that lesbian comes from Lesbos and instead just think of it as what it is. And more people know gay used to mean happy but no one r... | fio6t7 | CMV: Mainstream terminology for same-sex attraction (gay/lesbian) is highly euphemistic | Lesbian referring to 'Sappho of Lesbos'.
Gay meaning 'happy'.
So male same-sex meaning happy, and female same-sex meaning of a given island. Talk about euphemisms.
I believe this highlights a lack of ability for our mainstream society to effectively engage with the root idea of same-sex relationships. Couching so... | rabicanwoosley | 9 | 9 | [
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cmv: Women are too sexual AND they are also not respected enough.
So, let me explain. I am against the current oversexualization of women and yet I also disagree with the usual other side of the argument.
I look right and I see feminists (usually women) claiming that women being sexual like this is strong, empowerin... | >It makes women sexualize themselves even more. First because, well, there is a public and it pays, A LOT, but also because I believe they want to prove the point that women should be allowed to be sexual and still be considered as respectable HUMANS
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In addition I think he(or... | 11abpjy | cmv: Women are too sexual AND they are also not respected enough. | So, let me explain. I am against the current oversexualization of women and yet I also disagree with the usual other side of the argument.
I look right and I see feminists (usually women) claiming that women being sexual like this is strong, empowering and beautiful.
I look left and I see (usually men) saying that wh... | Big-Bridge-6142 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The New Assault Weapons Ban Will Harm the Democrats Politically And Do Nothing Substantial to Reduce Gun Violence
This CMV is in two parts.
First on the political harm front.
Gun ownership is not a purely right-wing activity. 32[% of Democrats say there is a gun in the home, as do 36% of Independents.](... | I’m not going to try to change your view on it reducing gun violence in a substantial matter. The new AWB almost exclusively targets rifles and all rifles account for about 2.5-3% of gun deaths. So a basic understanding of statistics should tell everyone that it won’t do much.
Will it hurt them politically? Probably n... | Isn’t it a big stretch to say that democratic gun owners would automatically stop supporting democrats if a specific type of gun was made harder to obtain?
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I'm not saying they'll stop supporting democrats. I'm saying they'll be less motivated to vote. Further, not all democratic voters are registered democrats. I... | w8n6to | CMV: The New Assault Weapons Ban Will Harm the Democrats Politically And Do Nothing Substantial to Reduce Gun Violence | This CMV is in two parts.
First on the political harm front.
Gun ownership is not a purely right-wing activity. 32[% of Democrats say there is a gun in the home, as do 36% of Independents.](https://news.gallup.com/poll/21496/gun-ownership-higher-among-republicans-than-democrats.aspx) It seems to me that winni... | kingpatzer | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Dormitories should use Semi-double (120*195 cm) or Double (140*195 cm) instead of Single (90*190 cm) beds, single beds should be phased out
Edit edit: Now eight friends, 7 of them sleep in king sized beds (>170 cm wide) at home. The other is a semi-double. 7/8 said the dorm bed is too cramped for them. All eight ... | I’m 6’4” and did just fine on the extra long twin bed that my college had. Granted I didn’t have a partner in college. Double beds in the dorm rooms of the size they give students is simply not tenable
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They can use bunk beds. A bunk double bed occupies less space than two separate singles.
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In the UK shared ... | Bed cost is roughly proportional to area, so they should probably continue to use them in places where cost is extremely important. Packing density too, like shelters that need to hold the maximum possible number of people.
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The problem is that we're using beds bad for people's health even when there is enough roo... | 11bco7r | CMV: Dormitories should use Semi-double (120*195 cm) or Double (140*195 cm) instead of Single (90*190 cm) beds, single beds should be phased out | Edit edit: Now eight friends, 7 of them sleep in king sized beds (>170 cm wide) at home. The other is a semi-double. 7/8 said the dorm bed is too cramped for them. All eight said the bed at home is more comfortable than in dorm.
Edit: I've asked five of my friends. All five sleep in King size beds in home (170 cm or ... | TheShoA17 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Asexuals think of themselves as superior.
I honestly don't know many asexuals in person so maybe I am just confronted with the assholes that are included in every group but I base my view on the following:
1. I often hear them express they are able to love someone without sex and by thus their love somehow posse... | >However that doesn't mean they have the right to demand their partner to now give up their sex-life
This is such an absurd thing to say. I've never met an asexual who tries to pressure people into not having sex. I *have* however, seen plenty of asexual people being pressured into having sex.
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My point wasn't to... | > I often hear them express they are able to love someone without sex and by thus their love somehow possesses a higher quality.
This appears to be valid... if your love isn't affected by sex, then it does seem more pure, right?
The love for a child (for example) is generally accepted to be more pure than your "love"... | 712o9r | CMV: Asexuals think of themselves as superior. | I honestly don't know many asexuals in person so maybe I am just confronted with the assholes that are included in every group but I base my view on the following:
1. I often hear them express they are able to love someone without sex and by thus their love somehow possesses a higher quality.
2. ~~Next is their compl... | Concibar | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Asexuals think of themselves as superior.
I honestly don't know many asexuals in person so maybe I am just confronted with the assholes that are included in every group but I base my view on the following:
1. I often hear them express they are able to love someone without sex and by thus their love somehow posse... | >However that doesn't mean they have the right to demand their partner to now give up their sex-life
This is such an absurd thing to say. I've never met an asexual who tries to pressure people into not having sex. I *have* however, seen plenty of asexual people being pressured into having sex.
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You haven't looked... | > However that doesn't mean they have the right to demand their partner to now give up their sex-life. Their have partners have demands and if demands clash I don't see it as a valid compromise that one partner just gets his/her way.
This struck me as particularly odd. Are they demanding that their partner stay with t... | 712o9r | CMV: Asexuals think of themselves as superior. | I honestly don't know many asexuals in person so maybe I am just confronted with the assholes that are included in every group but I base my view on the following:
1. I often hear them express they are able to love someone without sex and by thus their love somehow possesses a higher quality.
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CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional
The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
75% of Americans may identify as some form of Christian, but to base policy (on a state or federal level) *solely* on majority rule is inherently ... | The premise that laws are advocated for or implemented exclusively because of religious doctrine is off imo. Theft and murder are both illegal, but not because Christianity says it’s wrong. Nowhere in the law does it cite religious doctrine as its basis.
For the abortion debate, one does not have to be religious to s... | I am not sure what you mean.
When assessing whether a law is based on religion, courts look to whether there is a valid state interest. Our courts have already recognized a valid state interest in the "potential life" of the fetus.
So even if legislators voted on an individual level based on their religion, the law ... | pkey1o | CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional | The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
75% of Americans may identify as some form of Christian, but to base policy (on a state or federal level) *solely* on majority rule is inherently un-American. The fact that there is no law establishing a “national religio... | MoreLikeBoryphyll | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional
The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
75% of Americans may identify as some form of Christian, but to base policy (on a state or federal level) *solely* on majority rule is inherently ... | [deleted]
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Yes but because religious bias can play into their definitions, they are inherently flawed.
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What r... | I am not sure what you mean.
When assessing whether a law is based on religion, courts look to whether there is a valid state interest. Our courts have already recognized a valid state interest in the "potential life" of the fetus.
So even if legislators voted on an individual level based on their religion, the law ... | pkey1o | CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional | The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
75% of Americans may identify as some form of Christian, but to base policy (on a state or federal level) *solely* on majority rule is inherently un-American. The fact that there is no law establishing a “national religio... | MoreLikeBoryphyll | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional
The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
75% of Americans may identify as some form of Christian, but to base policy (on a state or federal level) *solely* on majority rule is inherently ... | I think it’s one thing to say it’s unamerican, but it’s definitely not unconstitutional. There’s nothing in the constitution that says politicians can’t use their religion to inform their political views
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But if there is to be a true separation of church and state, either doctrine of all faiths must be considered ... | The premise that laws are advocated for or implemented exclusively because of religious doctrine is off imo. Theft and murder are both illegal, but not because Christianity says it’s wrong. Nowhere in the law does it cite religious doctrine as its basis.
For the abortion debate, one does not have to be religious to s... | pkey1o | CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional | The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
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CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional
The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
75% of Americans may identify as some form of Christian, but to base policy (on a state or federal level) *solely* on majority rule is inherently ... | [deleted]
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Yes but because religious bias can play into their definitions, they are inherently flawed.
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For the abortion debate, one does not have to be religious to s... | pkey1o | CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional | The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
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CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional
The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
75% of Americans may identify as some form of Christian, but to base policy (on a state or federal level) *solely* on majority rule is inherently ... | [deleted]
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For the abortion debate, one does not have to be religious to s... | pkey1o | CMV: To restrict abortion on purely religious grounds is unconstitutional | The 1796 Treaty of Tripoli states that the USA was “in no way founded on the Christian religion.”
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CMV: Lawyers should be public employees like doctors or police officers.
The ability to pay more for better lawyers just means rich people have more chance in being right in the eyes of the law, regardless of the merits of their case.
All our statues above court houses are of a blindfolded woman, because justice is ... | Are you proposing making private practice of law illegal? Are you aware there is also private practice of medicine, making your analogy invalid? Should the private practice of medicine also be outlawed?
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Maybe my comparison with doctors is problematic because I live in Denmark with very good public health and ther... | So if you have two state lawyers but one is better than the other that is still a unfair system so how are you going to fix that?
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I don't think it's possible to make a system 100% fair, but I certainly think we can make something fairer.
I'd argue your example is fair enough. I'd rather see cases with one state... | mgas2s | CMV: Lawyers should be public employees like doctors or police officers. | The ability to pay more for better lawyers just means rich people have more chance in being right in the eyes of the law, regardless of the merits of their case.
All our statues above court houses are of a blindfolded woman, because justice is meant to be blind. This however is laughably far from reality.
Me, as a ... | the_hucumber | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Lawyers should be public employees like doctors or police officers.
The ability to pay more for better lawyers just means rich people have more chance in being right in the eyes of the law, regardless of the merits of their case.
All our statues above court houses are of a blindfolded woman, because justice is ... | Are you proposing making private practice of law illegal? Are you aware there is also private practice of medicine, making your analogy invalid? Should the private practice of medicine also be outlawed?
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Maybe my comparison with doctors is problematic because I live in Denmark with very good public health and ther... | I would imagine there would be a middle ground that could work.
People could pay more for legal representation, but for every dollar that could use for their own legal protection they would have to invest two into a fund that would support the public.
So a person could pay for better legal representation as long as... | mgas2s | CMV: Lawyers should be public employees like doctors or police officers. | The ability to pay more for better lawyers just means rich people have more chance in being right in the eyes of the law, regardless of the merits of their case.
All our statues above court houses are of a blindfolded woman, because justice is meant to be blind. This however is laughably far from reality.
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CMV: All wheel drive cars are better than front wheel drive cars from a racing POV 99% of the time
When you accelerate your car from a standing still, weight transfers to the rear of the car. In a front wheel drive car, this transfers the weight away from the driven wheels, resulting in traction issues. This is why th... | There are more friction losses in an AWD setup.
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Are the friction losses enough to matter? From what I understand 2WD cars have 15% drivetrain loss on average while an AWD car has bout 20% drivetrain loss
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If you are talking about racecars like Nascar, 5% is more than enough to make an enormous difference.
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CMV: Liberals are, for all intents and purposes, for open borders.
\*If you openly believe in open borders as a matter of principle or ideology, this question doesn't apply to you (though I genuinely respect taking on such a publicly unpopular position, and being so intellectually transparent in doing so). Here's my a... | > If you're against outside enforcement (the wall, elimination of catch-and-release, increasing ICE funding, getting Mexico to take some of this stuff off our plate), and you're against internal enforcement (deportation, refusing access to government services/welfare programs, E-verify etc.), aren't you really for NO e... | >Liberals are against a border wall; y'all say it is because it is either racist in origin, impractical, damaging to the environment, or ineffective.
It's at least two of those things. A wall has a very real effect on the ecology of the area, and migration patterns will be disrupted. The border is also going across 14... | c51cmf | CMV: Liberals are, for all intents and purposes, for open borders. | \*If you openly believe in open borders as a matter of principle or ideology, this question doesn't apply to you (though I genuinely respect taking on such a publicly unpopular position, and being so intellectually transparent in doing so). Here's my analysis:
Liberals are against a border wall; y'all say it is becaus... | theitalianstallion24 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The ugly scene that played out on United 3411 was the fault of Chicago PD and the passenger himself, not the airline
As most of us know, a passenger was [dragged off](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/business/united-flight-passenger-dragged.html?_r=0) United Airlines flight 3411 from Chicago to Louisville on Ap... | There are a few issues with what United did.
1) They allowed passengers to board the plane. This means that the only reason they can kick someone off is for being uncooporative with the flight crew, or otherwise a health risk. Well, there are a few other specified reasons, but the whole section 25 refers to denying bo... | At the very least they were incompetently disorganized. If they knew the plane was overbooked why did they make him go through the hassle of going through security and being seated on the plane? They could have easily have told him that he had bumped and would have to take another flight when he got to the airport and ... | 64ys0e | CMV: The ugly scene that played out on United 3411 was the fault of Chicago PD and the passenger himself, not the airline | As most of us know, a passenger was [dragged off](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/business/united-flight-passenger-dragged.html?_r=0) United Airlines flight 3411 from Chicago to Louisville on April 9th. United stated yesterday that the flight was [sold out but not overbooked](https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/fl... | FishFollower74 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: being fat is always the result of lifestyle, not factors beyond control.
Firs off I want to clarify that I know there are medical conditions that cause people to gain weight. I've seen it myself, when people in my life started taking some medications, their weight simply went up despite any significant change in ... | >being fat is always the result of lifestyle, not factors beyond control.
You kind of debunk this yourself with your own anecdotal evidence stipulated in the body text.
>Firs off I want to clarify that I know there are medical conditions that cause people to gain weight. I've seen it myself, when people in my life st... | What choice does a child have in what they eat?
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I think the limiting factor for children is intelligence/maturity which pretty much exempt them from stern judgment as to whether they made the "right" choice.
It's odd that you bring it up in the first place since it's universally known that no one expects childre... | w8gyxy | CMV: being fat is always the result of lifestyle, not factors beyond control. | Firs off I want to clarify that I know there are medical conditions that cause people to gain weight. I've seen it myself, when people in my life started taking some medications, their weight simply went up despite any significant change in what they eat or do.
However, I do believe that this "forced" weight gain is l... | StSpider | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Occam's Razor is a Fallacy
More precisely: The use of Occam's Razor as an argument is fallacious.
I make this distinction because it seems like it was originally intended to be just a rule of thumb, but in practice it has been stretched beyond it's usefulness to exhibit some inherent truth of the world. I'll br... | Occam's razor is for comparing two models _that make the same predictions_, for comparing two explanations of the same phenomena. Both of your examples involve a comparison of two models that don't make the same predictions. "God wills it" isn't a model that makes the same predictions as physics: it doesn't tell you ho... | I think with your first example - the theist vs anti-theist argument - you're sort of confusing "fewest possible assumption" or even "simplest explanation" with "most oversimplified framing".
Like, "God wills it" is a very simple explanation on the face of it -true - but it packages a lot of unexplained or unsupporte... | 11b1yni | CMV: Occam's Razor is a Fallacy | More precisely: The use of Occam's Razor as an argument is fallacious.
I make this distinction because it seems like it was originally intended to be just a rule of thumb, but in practice it has been stretched beyond it's usefulness to exhibit some inherent truth of the world. I'll break down the interpretations I've... | Rubberchicken13 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you don't vaccinate your kids and harm comes of it, you should be punished.
So I live in an area with a lot of anti-vaxxers. A few years ago there was an outbreak of measles. Recently, an unvaccinated kid got my mother sick, enough that she had to be hospitalized. As you can imagine, I was just a tad upset abo... | Why isn't it the responsibility of the person who gets the disease from that person to be vaccinated themself?
I'm your scenario, why isn't it your mother's fault for not being vaccinated?
Under your theory, wouldn't it be the fault of the person who gave the unvaccinated child measles?
What diseases get included in... | So you want to make not vaccinating your child illegal? You want to create laws that require a parent to vaccinate their children.
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First off, op asked for a better solution without implying the specific solution you seem to have a problem with. Secondly, what is the argument to be made against creating such laws... | 64tchq | CMV: If you don't vaccinate your kids and harm comes of it, you should be punished. | So I live in an area with a lot of anti-vaxxers. A few years ago there was an outbreak of measles. Recently, an unvaccinated kid got my mother sick, enough that she had to be hospitalized. As you can imagine, I was just a tad upset about this.
Now, I'm not blaiming the kids. They're victims here too. The parents are t... | Winterbliss2000 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Defunding the police will not solve any problems
First of all, I would like to reiterate that I think that what happened to George Floyd was murder, the officer got what he deserved, police brutality against black people is very real, and that black lives matter. I love that people are - predominantly - peacefull... | You should wait until you've read (and they've provided) the actual specific plan in minneapolis. political slogans and what they actually mean are often quite different.
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While that may be true, that’s not what a lot of the protesters mean. They mean it very literally.
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So you think they are saying it in ba... | Part of defunding police is shifting many responsibilities (trouble students, sexual assault, mental health crises) to other departments and other social workers.
Yes, if we simply defunded police while expecting police to continue doing what they do now, they will be overwhelmed. But that is not the case.
It is no... | gzb4hu | CMV: Defunding the police will not solve any problems | First of all, I would like to reiterate that I think that what happened to George Floyd was murder, the officer got what he deserved, police brutality against black people is very real, and that black lives matter. I love that people are - predominantly - peacefully protesting and demanding change.
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CMV: The term futa is not intrinsically offensive
Now, I'd like to preface this by saying that around company that considers the term offensive, I would obviously refrain from using it. Offense is not mine to decide, it's the other party's. But I'm here to talk about whether the term itself is intrinsically offensive.... | >Offense is not mine to decide, it's the other party's. But I'm here to talk about whether the term itself is intrinsically offensive.
I think the most logically consistent thing here is to say that no word is intrinsically offensive, and that offensiveness is solely determined by the audience who hears the word.
I... | Like, sure, it's not intrinsically offensive...but that's because very few terms are intrinsically offensive. Even really bad slurs are only really bad because society has collectively agreed they are really bad.
'Futas' aren't intrinsically trans women but 'traps' aren't intrinsically trans women either and that's s... | w8drgg | CMV: The term futa is not intrinsically offensive | Now, I'd like to preface this by saying that around company that considers the term offensive, I would obviously refrain from using it. Offense is not mine to decide, it's the other party's. But I'm here to talk about whether the term itself is intrinsically offensive. Like, say, the word faggot. Using it ever with the... | aglitchinreality96 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Pronouns should be practical
If you look like a woman, regardless of if your trans or not, I’m going to use “she” in most circumstances. If I need to describe someone to a server or other staff who doesn’t know you I’m using the pronoun that most accurately matches your physical appearance. It’s just more realist... | >“that’s transphobic and you’re a bigot.”
Have you ever encountered that in real life?
A lot of people like to bring these things up when talking about pronouns, and when they're asked to elaborate on their experiences they've usually only ever encountered this from some screenshot on tumblr and go on to assume its l... | If you look like and are a man, and I insist on referring to you as 'she', would it annoy or insult you, because it implies you're doing a bad job of presenting yourself as a man?
If so, that's evidence that pronoun use is not merely practical. It has emotional implications.
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CMV: Tim Curry's best role was that of the butler in "Clue".
I'm not going to pretend that his other roles aren't generally amazing, I will always have a special place in my heart for Frank N. Furter, this argument isn't designed to tear down his other roles at all. His work in "Clue" is just too enjoyable. He had th... | Not necessarily a complete contradiction, but IMDB lists the following movies as the things [Tim Curry](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000347/) is known for:
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And Clue doesn't make the list. I understand that "known for" isn't the s... | Tim Curry permanently scarred me for life, giving me an inescapable distrust of clowns due to his role as Pennywise in the IT mini series. He effectively did that for an entire generation of kids.
Well, that's no good! you might cry. However, you must understand that it also sparked in me a rabid fondness of horror. ... | 713nqc | CMV: Tim Curry's best role was that of the butler in "Clue". | I'm not going to pretend that his other roles aren't generally amazing, I will always have a special place in my heart for Frank N. Furter, this argument isn't designed to tear down his other roles at all. His work in "Clue" is just too enjoyable. He had the perfect facial expressions to just exude judgmental prissine... | slytherin-by-night | 3 | 3 | [
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I'm not going to pretend that his other roles aren't generally amazing, I will always have a special place in my heart for Frank N. Furter, this argument isn't designed to tear down his other roles at all. His work in "Clue" is just too enjoyable. He had th... | Clue is one of my favorite movies, but I also really like his role in Muppet Treasure Island. His fun acting quirks are on full display as his delightful singing voice. You mentioned you have young children in another comment, so maybe watch it with them.
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CMV: China will never invade Taiwan
* **Military Challenges**: Launching a Full-Scale Invasion of Taiwan will be no easy Job, going against the US and Japan, where China's most of the latest gen equipment has never been tested on the battlegrounds, is a suicide mission. The Chinese military lacks experience in actual ... | You can look at Russian invasion of Ukraine as a prime example of how overestimating own capabilities while underestimating the enemy leads to a huge war. If Chinese leadership would believe that they can win a war before US reacts - they will invade.
They can believe it if they have massively inflated own capabiliti... | Completely agree. I also think the fact that everyone is rushing to Ukraine's aid spooked China. If we put the same economic sanctions on China as they did Russia, China would struggle to feed their own people. China imports a lot of food (fertilizer) and energy
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CMV: The USA is a dystopia
US citizens are indoctrinated from birth that the US is the best country in the world, the leader of the free world, the land of opportunity, the freest nation on earth, a place where anyone can achieve anything with hardwork, a morally righteous christian nation, an ideal democracy, etc.
... | The USA is not a utopia, yet people still enjoy a better life than more than 90% of other countries. A simple evidence is more people want to migrate to the US than those who want to leave.
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can you show me any research that backs the US being in the top 10% globally for quality of life?
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[https://en.wikipedi... | A dystopia isn't just a society that falls short of utopia. America has problems but they're within the normal parameters of a country having problems.
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how so?
how do you define dystopia then?
how is the US normal?
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All of those are empiricall... | tjmaxal | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We could just as easily say "oneteen" instead of "eleven."
**Edit**: My view is almost completely changed. That was fast. Now I know that "oneteen" doesn't make sense because the pattern of numbers in the teens is ordinal number - last sound + teen, so even if I wanted eleven to fit into the pattern it would be "... | It would actually be firsteen which sounds too close to thirteen.
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The "teens" are made by taking the ordinal numbers, pulling off the ending (usually "th"), and adding "teen". This is only evident in "thir... | > The only other language I know is Spanish, and their word for "eleven" is more in line with the rest of their tens column.
Spanish also has a switch between two modes, it's just that the switch happens between 15 (quince) and 16 (dieziseis), instead of between 12 (twelve) and 13 (thirteen).
Anyway, "weird inexplica... | 11auabf | CMV: We could just as easily say "oneteen" instead of "eleven." | **Edit**: My view is almost completely changed. That was fast. Now I know that "oneteen" doesn't make sense because the pattern of numbers in the teens is ordinal number - last sound + teen, so even if I wanted eleven to fit into the pattern it would be "firsteen," not "oneteen." I also know now that eleven is a strang... | president_pete | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We could just as easily say "oneteen" instead of "eleven."
**Edit**: My view is almost completely changed. That was fast. Now I know that "oneteen" doesn't make sense because the pattern of numbers in the teens is ordinal number - last sound + teen, so even if I wanted eleven to fit into the pattern it would be "... | It would actually be firsteen which sounds too close to thirteen.
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We don't say "secondteen" or "fourthteen," though
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And we don't say "threeteen" or "fiveteen" either, so I'm not really sure what we're even talking about here. Language is weird in general. English is arguably extra weird. And it's certainly ... | You should be comparing to German and Dutch, since all 3 are Germanic languages.
In both, the number 11 is “elf”, followed by “zwölf” in German and “twaalf” in Dutch. Thereafter, all 3 languages use their variation of the teens “thirteen”, “dreizehn”, and “veertien”, respectively up until 20.
Keep in mind that in a... | 11auabf | CMV: We could just as easily say "oneteen" instead of "eleven." | **Edit**: My view is almost completely changed. That was fast. Now I know that "oneteen" doesn't make sense because the pattern of numbers in the teens is ordinal number - last sound + teen, so even if I wanted eleven to fit into the pattern it would be "firsteen," not "oneteen." I also know now that eleven is a strang... | president_pete | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We could just as easily say "oneteen" instead of "eleven."
**Edit**: My view is almost completely changed. That was fast. Now I know that "oneteen" doesn't make sense because the pattern of numbers in the teens is ordinal number - last sound + teen, so even if I wanted eleven to fit into the pattern it would be "... | > The only other language I know is Spanish, and their word for "eleven" is more in line with the rest of their tens column.
Spanish also has a switch between two modes, it's just that the switch happens between 15 (quince) and 16 (dieziseis), instead of between 12 (twelve) and 13 (thirteen).
Anyway, "weird inexplica... | It would actually be firsteen which sounds too close to thirteen.
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CMV: The resurgence in fascism is partially enabled by the term "fascist" being used too lightly.
**TL:DR**: Genuine fascists are becoming increasingly powerful and getting less scrutiny than they deserve because the average Joe no longer sees the term "fascist" as a meaningful term, but rather as a mere partisan insu... | The logic is circular. Sure it helps fascists when the word/definition of fascist is used so much it loses meaning - but that might also mean that by the mere act of identifying genunine fascism necessarily helps fascists, which doesn't make sense.
That's kinda like saying pointing out rapists promotes rape.
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A communist accused me of being a fascist because [I made a post about genocide denial](https:... | Fuligo_septica | 9 | 7 | [
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CMV: Unless they are somehow unable to use the stairs, no one should ever use the elevator to go to the basement.
Every day on my college campus I walk about half a mile to the building where my class is. The building has high ceilings so the stairs are steep with a lot of steps. There are four floors total in the bui... | Everyone has a different experience. You may have to walk a half mile to get to class but others may not. What may be an inconvenience to you may not be for others. I only walk like 4 minutes to get to my building so walking up 3 flights ain't shit for me. Someone else might have to walk 3/4 of a mile so the walk down... | How is going down an additional level any different to any of the other levels? Isn't it equally selfish to want people to walk so that you can catch the elevator because you're tired?
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Because the alternative for me is going *up* 4 flights of stairs. The alternative for people going to the basement is going *dow... | 64wg66 | CMV: Unless they are somehow unable to use the stairs, no one should ever use the elevator to go to the basement. | Every day on my college campus I walk about half a mile to the building where my class is. The building has high ceilings so the stairs are steep with a lot of steps. There are four floors total in the building and my class is on the third floor.
Often I'm arriving just in time for class, so I don't want to take the ... | ShitFacedSteve | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Karma doesn’t exist — it’s something we tell ourselves to make sense of heartbreak and injustice.
I want to believe in karma. I really do. That people who hurt others eventually get what’s coming to them, and that if I stay kind, honest, and patient, life will reward me back. But what I see and experience tell... | I think the first thing I would ask you to question is the idea that money and popularity is such a meaningful reward. So long as you believe that being rich and liked is a profound success, I think your current view is pretty airtight: a lot of morally bankrupt people are wealthy and liked by many. Can't really argue ... | Karma doesn't always come true, but the more people who resent you, the higher the probability that you will have problems in your life.
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> but the more people who resent you, the higher the probability that you will have problems in your life.
Lol. Tell that to Hitler, Mussolini and Mao. Millions of people resen... | 1keilv7 | CMV: Karma doesn’t exist — it’s something we tell ourselves to make sense of heartbreak and injustice. |
I want to believe in karma. I really do. That people who hurt others eventually get what’s coming to them, and that if I stay kind, honest, and patient, life will reward me back. But what I see and experience tells a different story.
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CMV: The EU and NATO's Failure to Halt Russian Aggression in Ukraine Mirrors the League of Nations' Inaction to German and Italian Aggression Pre-WW2, Undermining Their Role as Peacekeepers
The events preceding World War II offer a striking parallel to the current situation unfolding in Ukraine. In 1935, Italy's invas... | Neither EU nor NATO has an obligation to be 'peacekeepers' for non-member nations.
More to the point, we are absolutely helping out Ukraine far more than people helped out Ethiopia or the Sudetenland. We are spending billions on aid for Ukraine.
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Thank you for your perspective. It's indeed true that neither the ... | I think the most glaring reason that this is not an apt comparison is that the League of Nations just watched or, in the case of Sudetenland, actually acquiesced, to Axis aggression in the 1930s, while NATO countries are actively and openly assisting Ukraine.
Also worth noting that Russia has not taken a single signi... | 1c99oov | CMV: The EU and NATO's Failure to Halt Russian Aggression in Ukraine Mirrors the League of Nations' Inaction to German and Italian Aggression Pre-WW2, Undermining Their Role as Peacekeepers | The events preceding World War II offer a striking parallel to the current situation unfolding in Ukraine. In 1935, Italy's invasion of Ethiopia went unchecked by the League of Nations, despite the latter's mandate to preserve global peace. The League's response was limited to imposing economic sanctions, reminiscent o... | Top_Row_5116 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: First World countries are the best when it comes to conservation and I'm tired of pretending they are not
I think a lot of people have the image of developed countries being polluted to the brim because of corporate consumerism and not caring about the environment, which itself isn't false in many cases, but if y... | Well that’s because the developed countries outsource their environmentally problematic industries to developing countries… it’s a known secret
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Nearly every country on Earth is at least a bit industrialised.
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And the first-class countries have existed for a very long time. Most of the asian and African countries... | 1kefnge | CMV: First World countries are the best when it comes to conservation and I'm tired of pretending they are not | I think a lot of people have the image of developed countries being polluted to the brim because of corporate consumerism and not caring about the environment, which itself isn't false in many cases, but if you romanticise African and South Asian into these havens for wildlife contrasting with the evil, materialistic r... | SquareNecessary5767 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you believe abortion should be illegal on the grounds that a life is being ended, then that fetus should get FULL protection under the law, including being an American citizen and all the perks that come with it
If we are going to consider those fetus' human beings which need protection from "murder" or whatev... | Anyone born on American soil is an American citizen. We have birthright citizenship. It feels like you’re trying to catch someone out as a hypocrite but I’m not sure who. Being anti-immigrant and anti-abortion aren’t really opposites.
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I would say if you're conceived on American soil. If you can go to a hospital a... | Child support and extra welfare money stop when the child reaches adulthood. This is because at that point the parent is assumed to no longer have additional expenses due to the child.It is logical, then, that they would start at the point when the extra expenses increase, which for the most part is at the birth of the... | pjy8tg | CMV: If you believe abortion should be illegal on the grounds that a life is being ended, then that fetus should get FULL protection under the law, including being an American citizen and all the perks that come with it | If we are going to consider those fetus' human beings which need protection from "murder" or whatever form of child abuse you want to call it, then that fetus should be legally treated exactly as a child. This means it is a citizen and it's parents are protected from deportation.
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If we are going to consider those fetus' human beings which need protection from "murder" or whatev... | Personhood is not the same as citizenship. They entail different sets of rights.
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If we are going to consider those fetus' human beings which need protection from "murder" or whatev... | I think this view you espouse is a popular misunderstanding of pro life views. The idea is that fetus = alive, so killing a fetus = murder. You can be against murder without any of the other views you highlighted. As for caring for a fetus from 6 weeks, the issue here is that there isn't really much care needed. Sure t... | [removed]
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CMV: Democrats would win every election if they changed 3 things (Controversial)
Ok, so I was thinking about why Democrats don’t win more often. Their economic and climate change policies are widely popular to majority of Americans. Yes, I am aware that gerrymandering unfortunately plays a big effect, but there bigger... | Are Democratic candidates calling Republicans fascists and Nazis? Regular idiots might be, but that's not the Party line.
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If they do that, they can lose the more liberal voters. So it is not so obviously beneficial.
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CMV: Democrats would win every election if they changed 3 things (Controversial)
Ok, so I was thinking about why Democrats don’t win more often. Their economic and climate change policies are widely popular to majority of Americans. Yes, I am aware that gerrymandering unfortunately plays a big effect, but there bigger... | Are Democratic candidates calling Republicans fascists and Nazis? Regular idiots might be, but that's not the Party line.
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Ok, so I was thinking about why Democrats don’t win more often. Their economic and climate change policies are widely popular to majority of Americans. Yes, I am aware that gerrymandering unfortunately plays a big effect, but there bigger... | Pretty much every democrat seriously running for president does 1&3. If they do 2 then that leaves the issue to 3rd parties and one could easily skim a few percentage points needed to win from the Democrats.
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I think th... | w82r6x | CMV: Democrats would win every election if they changed 3 things (Controversial) | Ok, so I was thinking about why Democrats don’t win more often. Their economic and climate change policies are widely popular to majority of Americans. Yes, I am aware that gerrymandering unfortunately plays a big effect, but there bigger reasons why they have been and are projected to lose to the Republicans this midt... | INTYLwow | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Acess to clean water is not the problem.
The fact that people can't or don't move to water is. Removing the **REASONS PEOPLE DON'T MIGRATE** is a far FAR better use of your charity dollar than helping them get-by in a place where humans shouldn't reasonably be living.
I just don't understand why we spend human... | Moving clean water isn't a new idea. It's been happening since the Romans (and before) and it has numerous benefits. So it's not like we are trying to put people on the moon here. This is basic lowest level civilization stuff here. Additionally, clean water is becoming more, not less, scarce so moving millions of peopl... | So, I'm not an expert, but, of the top of my head, I'd assume that they're being prevented from moving primarily because
1. They'd be leaving their friends and family. [you could respond, that they could all move together, but that is a huge coordination problem - when was the last time a thousand people made a move t... | 715jng | CMV: Acess to clean water is not the problem. | The fact that people can't or don't move to water is. Removing the **REASONS PEOPLE DON'T MIGRATE** is a far FAR better use of your charity dollar than helping them get-by in a place where humans shouldn't reasonably be living.
I just don't understand why we spend humanitarian resources on building wells and irrigat... | timtim366 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Gun control is not the answer to America's gun epidemic- Instead, better mental health access and gun education is.
[The National Center for Biotechnology Information reports](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6047385/) the three main causes of injury were accidental (36%), self-inflicted (33%), and as... | So gun control laws can’t work because criminals can get guns illegally but most gun deaths are from suicide and accidents not crimes?
Something in your two arguments isn’t adding up to me
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So you’re both arguing that gun control laws won’t work because most criminals don’t get their guns legally ... | >we should be giving people basic firearm education in school to drop the number of accidental injuries.
Why? This seems like it should go way below basic things like cooking, taxes, finding employment, and other things that aren't taught enough in schools. I mean, I didn't even get to take drivers ed in high school. ... | mg4o0s | CMV: Gun control is not the answer to America's gun epidemic- Instead, better mental health access and gun education is. | [The National Center for Biotechnology Information reports](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6047385/) the three main causes of injury were accidental (36%), self-inflicted (33%), and assault (26%). This means that over 1/3 of gun injuries are caused by people with lack of education on guns, not people out ... | superman_565 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: A fresh view on the United incident; I'm disappointed in humanity due to the non-actions of the people on the flight
So this is my actual view, and it is what my initial thoughts on the situation were. I'm not just making it up to be different. Would love to know how I'm wrong here.
First a person story (it is w... | Have you ever been in a situation where somebody said or did something rude to you, or something just so out-of-the-blue you couldn't think of anything witty to say back.. and then hours later you think "OMG I should have said____"?
I have many times been in situations such as the check out line scenario and responded... | > And there must have been at least 40 people within earshot of this situation as well (fully booked flight).
I doubt 40 people were able to hear exactly what was being said before he was dragged out - I suspect the number was much smaller. And even among that group, there were probably multiple people traveling toget... | 64uo8g | CMV: A fresh view on the United incident; I'm disappointed in humanity due to the non-actions of the people on the flight | So this is my actual view, and it is what my initial thoughts on the situation were. I'm not just making it up to be different. Would love to know how I'm wrong here.
First a person story (it is what's shaping my view, and is related to the incident)
There have been two situations in my life where I've been in line a... | ZeusThunder369 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Many Muslims are hypocrite and delusional
Hey before I start I want to say, I was born in Muslim family myself but I don't practice the religion .As someone who lives in a Muslim majority and have seen horrifying thoughts of some people where they have openly stated things without any consequences ,I like to thin... | I'll ask a clarifying question.
Are many Muslims hypocrites? Yes.
Are there more hypocrites among Muslims than there are among other religious peoples? Or non-religious peoples?
I guess my point is, do you believe that many Muslims are hypocrites *because* they're Muslim, or is it just that all Muslims are humans ... | Bangladesh is filled with hypocrites where majority of the residents are Muslims.
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Yup | 1kdtwmo | CMV: Many Muslims are hypocrite and delusional | Hey before I start I want to say, I was born in Muslim family myself but I don't practice the religion .As someone who lives in a Muslim majority and have seen horrifying thoughts of some people where they have openly stated things without any consequences ,I like to think I have a proper view of this. There is probabl... | Master_Image_7957 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no fundamental right to intellectual property and the current systems enforcing it are actively bad for society.
# Clarifications
I don't believe in any fundamental rights to intellectual property like physical property. Instead, intellectual property is a construct that society *can* use to its benefit.... | I think you've fundamentally misunderstood the core idea behind IP protections; it's the only means we've found to encourage people to be forthcoming with their ideas. I'll grant that perhaps there should be a reduction in the total time that a patent can be held (e.g. shorten it to 5-10 years as opposed to 20) given t... | Are you saying that if I write a book, that I have no rights to what I just created? That anyone who comes across the manuscript can publish it and profit by it, and I have no right to stop them? Or if I write a song, that anyone who happens to overhear it can perform it and make money off of it, without me being ab... | c4qark | CMV: There is no fundamental right to intellectual property and the current systems enforcing it are actively bad for society. | # Clarifications
I don't believe in any fundamental rights to intellectual property like physical property. Instead, intellectual property is a construct that society *can* use to its benefit. I believe this has worked in the past, but is currently failing. However, currently there are so many problems with IP that it'... | Quicksilver_Johny | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The majority of police violence issues are caused by the victim not knowing how to get detained/arrested or interact with the police
I think there are very few situations where a person did everything the police officer told them to do, but was acted violently against anyway. Some of the efforts towards improving... | So, basically, "do whatever a police officer tells you *or else...*" is the way you'd like to see citizen/police relation to be defined as ? That is some scary stuff right there.
> Unfortunately, our society doesn't give officers the option of just letting the person go if they are uncooperative.
That is ridiculous;... | There is an earlier step in the causation chain: too many laws, too many police needed to enforce them, and too many police interactions with civilians.
The USA arrests more adults than any other country on the planet and compared to civilized western countries the USA should be able to arrest about 1/5th as many peop... | 64s0qx | CMV: The majority of police violence issues are caused by the victim not knowing how to get detained/arrested or interact with the police | I think there are very few situations where a person did everything the police officer told them to do, but was acted violently against anyway. Some of the efforts towards improving police/citizen relations need to go towards informing people how to correctly interact with police officers.
In most cases, the person wa... | ZeusThunder369 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I'm politically left but I don't believe gender identity exists
As the title states, I consider myself a progressive in many respects, but despite reading through many many CMVs on the topic, I find myself unable to agree with my fellow progressives on the nature of transgender people.
Whenever I see people espo... | You absolutely do believe gender identity exists, because you have succinctly described what gender identity *is* (or at least a big part of it). You just insist on calling it 'gender dysphoria' and labeling it as a mental illness. We're talking about the exact same thing, just with different language.
I do object to ... | "live their life as though they were the opposite sex"
In other words, change their gender identity
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So you don't disagree... | w7u25q | CMV: I'm politically left but I don't believe gender identity exists | As the title states, I consider myself a progressive in many respects, but despite reading through many many CMVs on the topic, I find myself unable to agree with my fellow progressives on the nature of transgender people.
Whenever I see people espouse views similar to mine in this forum, they are consistently attacke... | MostlyVacuum | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: If you own a gun, you should be held to higher standards than are currently required such as bearing the responsibility for any crimes committed with the weapon and continuous training on firearm safety and competence.
I’ve never posted to this sub-Reddit before, but I love reading the discussions. I hope I am pr... | If you don't lock up a gun and someone uses it for murder you CAN be held accountable for not properly securing it.
If you willfully lend your car to someone and they get in an accident you'd have to prove that you knew the person you lent it to was a danger to others before you'd be even considered for a crime, and a... | What is stored safely?
We can probably all agree that carelessly leaving a gun out in the open say unsecured on your porch or on a seat in a car with unlocked doors and windows down that is one thing.
But if a firearm is in a night stand in your locked house, is that stored safely? If it is in the truck of a locked ... | 119o18n | CMV: If you own a gun, you should be held to higher standards than are currently required such as bearing the responsibility for any crimes committed with the weapon and continuous training on firearm safety and competence. | I’ve never posted to this sub-Reddit before, but I love reading the discussions. I hope I am presenting this topic clearly but if not please forgive me.
Gun owners have a unique and very serious obligation to our society to make sure guns are stored properly and are owned by capable and responsible individuals.
I bel... | [deleted] | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: patterns are strictly social constructs.
Clarification: I'm not talking about patterns in art, such as a floral pattern, but rather things "in nature," such as seasons, the tides of an ocean, the cycles of the moon, etc.
If we rolled a die one million times, and four consecutive numbers were 1212, would that be... | > If we rolled a die one million times, and four consecutive numbers were 1212, would that be a pattern?
No because each die roll is independent of the others.
> seasons, the tides of an ocean, the cycles of the moon, etc.
These are all patterns because they have repetitive outcomes that are tied to one another. The... | How can patterns in art such as a floral pattern be a pattern if, as you state, the time scale of the universe implies that 'nothing' is the only pattern?
The reason things like seasons and tides count as patterns is because we, within our lifetimes, get to experience them repeatedly. We can therefore predict the nex... | 714qpv | CMV: patterns are strictly social constructs. | Clarification: I'm not talking about patterns in art, such as a floral pattern, but rather things "in nature," such as seasons, the tides of an ocean, the cycles of the moon, etc.
If we rolled a die one million times, and four consecutive numbers were 1212, would that be a pattern? An argument could be made either wa... | AnalForklift | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: patterns are strictly social constructs.
Clarification: I'm not talking about patterns in art, such as a floral pattern, but rather things "in nature," such as seasons, the tides of an ocean, the cycles of the moon, etc.
If we rolled a die one million times, and four consecutive numbers were 1212, would that be... | >Social constructs can be very handy. Patterns are a very useful construct. I don't think we need to abandon them, I just don't think they're real, but I have some doubts.
Could you expand on what you mean here? Maybe by explaining what you mean by 'real' or what you consider to be 'real'?
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Scientific evidence. ... | If you rolled a die and got the numbers 1212, then you would have a repeating sequence 2 digits long, which repeated twice. That absolutely qualifies as a pattern.
You seem to think that "pattern" refers to something permanent, this is not true.
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If a 50-year-old person had two drinks in their life, would you say... | 714qpv | CMV: patterns are strictly social constructs. | Clarification: I'm not talking about patterns in art, such as a floral pattern, but rather things "in nature," such as seasons, the tides of an ocean, the cycles of the moon, etc.
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CMV: The only excuse for eating meat is that it tastes nice - not neccessarily a bad excuse...
Let me preface this by saying that I'm not a vegetarian.
This is not me preaching or putting myself on a pedastol, but simply bringing down frankly ignorant non-vegetarians trying to defend us.
Reasons often cited by meat... | Seems like **necessity** is a pretty obvious other reason/excuse to eat meat. I have a number of friends who live above the arctic circle in aboriginal communities. It's extremely expensive to transport food to them. They supplement their groceries by hunting local fauna, not because they necessarily like the taste (th... | I feel better when my diet contains some protein from animal products. I have gone all-vegetable protein at times, and it comes with mild digestive issues that I don't get when on a diet of protein from both plant and animal sources.
Being able to eat meat is also a lot easier. The default restaurants and get-together... | gz6r4f | CMV: The only excuse for eating meat is that it tastes nice - not neccessarily a bad excuse... | Let me preface this by saying that I'm not a vegetarian.
This is not me preaching or putting myself on a pedastol, but simply bringing down frankly ignorant non-vegetarians trying to defend us.
Reasons often cited by meat eaters:
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CMV: "Whiteness Studies" is Founded on Opinion and Assumption, not on Scientific Evidence or Critical Thinking.
- I've been curious about the origins of the concept of "Whiteness" recently. I came across the influential article "[White Supremacy Culture](https://www.whitesupremacyculture.info/uploads/4/3/5/7/43579015/... | > To the best of my knowledge, Whiteness Studies is not a scientific field, nor is it even a rigorously reasoned field of critical thought.
This appears to be the key to your understanding, and honestly you are half right. It's not a hard science under any definition. It's basically impossible to think how you could m... | Couple of things.
> I agree that the traits being talked about as defined in Okun's paper (perfectionism, individualism, only one way, paternalism, defensiveness, objectivity, either or, progress is bigger, quantity over quality, worship of the written word, fear of conflict, power hoarding, right to comfort, a const... | 11a8e0v | CMV: "Whiteness Studies" is Founded on Opinion and Assumption, not on Scientific Evidence or Critical Thinking. | - I've been curious about the origins of the concept of "Whiteness" recently. I came across the influential article "[White Supremacy Culture](https://www.whitesupremacyculture.info/uploads/4/3/5/7/43579015/okun_-_white_sup_culture_2020.pdf)" by Tema Okun. It's been the basis of many lists and other articles discussing... | JcraftW | 3 | 3 | [
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- I've been curious about the origins of the concept of "Whiteness" recently. I came across the influential article "[White Supremacy Culture](https://www.whitesupremacyculture.info/uploads/4/3/5/7/43579015/... | You seem to be missing they key underlying fact: the concept of race only dates back around 500 years and was initially invented by "white people" to justify slavery. By nature modern conceptualizations of race are a supremacist concept.
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CMV: In progressive, generally non-homophobic areas, it’s socially easier to be a gay guy than a lesbian
I’m not going to argue against that in the vast majority of human history and the majority of the world, it has been and is easier to be a homosexual woman than a homosexual man.
However, in the last decade or so,... | I would not agree with that, since you are solely looking through your current view (which I assume is a person who is already out, by the fact that you are mentioning your bias as a bi gal.)
So, first, I think that you aren't able to as easily see issues that gay men face. For example, you list the positive stereoty... | Hmm, all I can provide here is my own perspective as a straight guy. So let me preface this with that fact, that all of this is simply my own observation.
The way my eyes see things, gay guys...commit. Obviously bisexual men exist, but the image that has been put forward by the LGBT movement is that gay guys...are... | c4oi5b | CMV: In progressive, generally non-homophobic areas, it’s socially easier to be a gay guy than a lesbian | I’m not going to argue against that in the vast majority of human history and the majority of the world, it has been and is easier to be a homosexual woman than a homosexual man.
However, in the last decade or so, I have a clear feeling that it has been easier to be a gay guy than a lesbian, in liberal areas where hom... | Moluwuchan | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There are way too many landlords
Disclosure: My thoughts about this are primarily US-centric, although I think much of what I think is applicable in other countries.
I think that, as a general rule, you should not be a landlord. On a moral level, if you are a landlord, then you are contributing to the problems o... | Your scenario is flawed because you are making supply and demand functions to fit your point of view. The Housing market is much more dynamic. For example studies have shown that home ownership has higher unemployment and their wages after unemployment is lower. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/... | How is providing housing to people who can't afford to, or don't care to buy their own homes morally wrong?
Because that's what landlords do. Provide housing.
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I think I explained this in my post. If you do this, you are creating the market circumstances which make them unable to afford a home. Certainly, you sh... | mfxp5r | CMV: There are way too many landlords | Disclosure: My thoughts about this are primarily US-centric, although I think much of what I think is applicable in other countries.
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CMV: Evangelical Christians are the White Taliban
Given recent events in Afghanistan and in the United States, it’s dawned on me that there are a lot of similarities between the Taliban and Evangelical Christians in the modern era.
They both use an extremist reading of their respective religions to advocate for viol... | Just because two groups are comparable in their motivations and values doesn't mean that you can extend the metaphor. I like to joke about yallqaida as much as the next leftie but I much prefer our social conservatives to the Middle East's.
That's what it is by the way, regressive social conservativism. These groups a... | [deleted]
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I am arguing in good faith, and I am a Christian. This is a very important topic to me.
I have considered this idea for a while, but it wasn’t until recently that it really came into such sharp focus for me. I am a lawyer, so I watch the Supreme Court closely and don’t take cues from mainstream media... | pjqk4u | CMV: Evangelical Christians are the White Taliban | Given recent events in Afghanistan and in the United States, it’s dawned on me that there are a lot of similarities between the Taliban and Evangelical Christians in the modern era.
They both use an extremist reading of their respective religions to advocate for violence, the suppression of women, and separatism. The... | truthswillsetyoufree | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Far-left and Far-right ideologies are very similar when it comes to totalitarian regimes
When I learn about authoritarian historical countries and nowadays countries, I always find everything too similar to be even considered a far-left or far-right regime, their policies theoretically should work differently, bu... | Which view do you want us to change? The view that totalitarian governments are totalitarian regardless of the ideology? It’s hard to dispute that
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That Far-Left and Far-Right totalitarian regimes are different and not similar, proving it that Left-Wing totalitarian regimes are indeed Left-Wing and not Right-Wing,... | USSR isn't a far left regime. It's a right regime pretending to pursue a left agenda. Anarchism is an example of a far-left ideology and wouldn't look like a totalitarian regimes.
You're right, dictators who proclaim left ideologies don't implement left ideologies. That is because they are lying. People who want power... | 1c8u6gj | CMV: Far-left and Far-right ideologies are very similar when it comes to totalitarian regimes | When I learn about authoritarian historical countries and nowadays countries, I always find everything too similar to be even considered a far-left or far-right regime, their policies theoretically should work differently, but for some reason the self-proclaimed leftists on dictator positions doesn't really seem to be ... | Raio7 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I am an ableist.
EDIT #1: This post mostly refers to mental illness, as those whom I know with physical disabilities tend to not have as much difficulty with day-to-day tasks, albeit some. I have a bad history of attracting mentally-ill people to me from a heightened sense of empathy, which led to a superhero com... | We are often blind to our own shortcomings
https://xkcd.com/610/
None of us are worthy to cast the first stone.
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You clever redditor, you, pulling me in with the XKCD reference.
We could easily get into the "I'm even harder on myself" argument, which I don't doubt I am, and maybe I could ask something else to a... | [removed]
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Thank you for the hope! I agree that my views may be changed on their own when I'm able to have regular experiences with able people. Just seems difficult when something about growing up the modern world seems to be a direct ticket to mental health issues.
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Just be glad you are dealing with their i... | fhtqie | CMV: I am an ableist. | EDIT #1: This post mostly refers to mental illness, as those whom I know with physical disabilities tend to not have as much difficulty with day-to-day tasks, albeit some. I have a bad history of attracting mentally-ill people to me from a heightened sense of empathy, which led to a superhero complex that made me feel ... | ChristopherJngs | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The world is destroying the poppy plants - slowly but surely
Currently there is no place for people who just want to grow it without selectively breeding it for a specific substance they need. Be it the farms that grow them for medical purposes or the illegal drug industry. Best way to preserve the essense of the... | Poppy seeds are widely available - how do you believe these are produced?
Poppies grow wild in abundance, and at least In my country, everyone is allowed to grow them for poppy seeds.
How did you come to believe that poppies are under pressure in any way?
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The seeds are bread for medical industry and to make c... | >Currently there is no place for people who just want to grow it without selectively breeding it for a specific substance they need.
Sure there is: the US. It is perfectly legal to grow poppies in the US if you aren't harvesting opium from them
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And you will be under constant surveillance! No thank you, I just w... | 1gda4s9 | CMV: The world is destroying the poppy plants - slowly but surely | Currently there is no place for people who just want to grow it without selectively breeding it for a specific substance they need. Be it the farms that grow them for medical purposes or the illegal drug industry. Best way to preserve the essense of the plant for future generation is to have people who care about the p... | 2reform | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Polyamory is just a breeding ground for narcissism and betrayal.
Three years ago, my ex partner unilaterally demanded we open our marriage during a trip with friends where I couldn't escape or even have a healthy conversation about it, then threatened to leave if I didn't comply when we came home.
I begged ... | I'm sorry you had an abusive partner who used polyamory as an excuse to mistreat you but that doesn't make polyamory inherently bad as your experience is far from universal.
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It can be down but it requires even MORE work and communication as well as higher risks of people not being honest or communicating well etc... | I'm sorry you have to experience this. Assuming your story is true, tour ex partner is abusive, unkind and an ableist too. I'm glad you have taken steps to move on and I wish you all the best going forward. It's not going to be easy but we all have to deal with various challenges life has thrown at us.
That being said... | 1c8rxy4 | CMV: Polyamory is just a breeding ground for narcissism and betrayal. | Three years ago, my ex partner unilaterally demanded we open our marriage during a trip with friends where I couldn't escape or even have a healthy conversation about it, then threatened to leave if I didn't comply when we came home.
I begged and pleaded, but eventually relented. Then, after a few months I began ... | Ronald-Obvious | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Libraries are obsolete.
Libraries are obsolete.
Yes, libraries may be a place to have fun, meet people, etc, but there’s no need for them in today’s society in the age of technology. You can order and rent books online. You can even download some books for free. The fact that the US government spends 1.3 billion... | What makes you think books are only for entertainment? Have you not seen the huge swaths of non-fiction materials in libraries?
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>Americans... | What do you plan to do if the power goes out?
Books aren't for now. Books are for tomorrow, when we'll really need them.
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To learn how to get it back on, for starters. | fhnz2t | CMV: Libraries are obsolete. | Libraries are obsolete.
Yes, libraries may be a place to have fun, meet people, etc, but there’s no need for them in today’s society in the age of technology. You can order and rent books online. You can even download some books for free. The fact that the US government spends 1.3 billion dollars on libraries is ridic... | politicsnerd67 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Libraries are obsolete.
Libraries are obsolete.
Yes, libraries may be a place to have fun, meet people, etc, but there’s no need for them in today’s society in the age of technology. You can order and rent books online. You can even download some books for free. The fact that the US government spends 1.3 billion... | The elderly often struggle with online technology and so it isn't a viable substitute for them.
Not all books have been digitised, so we would lose access to a substantial proportion of all literature if it could no longer be freely accessed physically.
Many people (myself included) much prefer reading a physical cop... | Libraries are a form of assisting people in need. Many people don't have internet access at home. If they don't have libraries to provide them internet access, how can they apply for jobs? Most jobs require online applications now.
Similarly, many people can't afford to buy every book they're interested in reading. S... | fhnz2t | CMV: Libraries are obsolete. | Libraries are obsolete.
Yes, libraries may be a place to have fun, meet people, etc, but there’s no need for them in today’s society in the age of technology. You can order and rent books online. You can even download some books for free. The fact that the US government spends 1.3 billion dollars on libraries is ridic... | politicsnerd67 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Most of the posts in r/unpopularopinion should be posted in r/changemyview
Many people post their views there and portray that most people around them don't support their views. They could be right, but it got me thinking about the fact that the ones that blow especially do not belong there. More than being popul... | The point of posting there isnt to have their view changed, though. So their purpose wouldn't be fulfilled by posting to this sub.
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But I think when people post on r/unpopularopinion instead of r/popularopinion they tend to want some amount of people who are against it.
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Arguing is not the same as being willi... | Well, the premise of /r/changemyview is that the poster is actually, you know, open to changing their views. What makes you think posters in r/unpopularopinion feel the same way?
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I'm just talking about the the unpopular opinions that blow up and become popular. I'm sure people who posted it to some extent know th... | fhu66v | CMV: Most of the posts in r/unpopularopinion should be posted in r/changemyview | Many people post their views there and portray that most people around them don't support their views. They could be right, but it got me thinking about the fact that the ones that blow especially do not belong there. More than being popular views, we have a bunch of people who just agree with it. Those views are never... | awaitingherhighness | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: "Vote with your wallet" is great in theory but often flawed in practice.
Hey all
I was thinking about this recently and I figured I'd bring it up. Often-times, I see many people opting to "vote with their wallets" and being encouraged to do so by others in various situations. My understanding of this is that "vo... | Looking into the backlash against Wizards of the Coast proposed OGL changes and how quickly they changed their tune when they started losing their customers might be a good place for you to start.
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That was probably one of the cases that best fits the "vote with your wallet" philosophy. A case where the company's ... | Generally true, it's hard to argue against "often flawed " as people will surely bring up cases where it was effective that are easy to dismiss in the greater picture.
But what you might not consider is all the subtle success that comes with this that might not be as flashy as the evil Corp going bankrupt.
Consider v... | 119xmsz | CMV: "Vote with your wallet" is great in theory but often flawed in practice. | Hey all
I was thinking about this recently and I figured I'd bring it up. Often-times, I see many people opting to "vote with their wallets" and being encouraged to do so by others in various situations. My understanding of this is that "voting with your wallet" is a way for consumers to push for change in the busines... | -Dayzed- | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Flying in an airplane is terrifying
This is a view I genuinely want changed, I’m getting a flight today and I’m terrified.
One of the big things that scares me is the lack of control, even over something like the weather, when booking a flight I have no idea what weather it’ll be like and it seems flights still ... | >One of the big things that scares me is the lack of control
Are you professional pilot with years of experience in flying all kind of weathers, knowledge of plane mechanics and legal standards? You are not but do you know who is? The person in charge of the plane.
Same cannot be said about drivers. A random drunk dr... | This is a massive fear of mine as well...but trust me when I say you are more likely to get killed getting to the airport than on the plane itself. The pilots/flight attendants fly multiple times a day/week and 99.99% have never experienced as an issue more severe than some violent turbulence. If it also makes you feel... | w7gbd0 | CMV: Flying in an airplane is terrifying | This is a view I genuinely want changed, I’m getting a flight today and I’m terrified.
One of the big things that scares me is the lack of control, even over something like the weather, when booking a flight I have no idea what weather it’ll be like and it seems flights still go ahead even in dangerous weather like st... | sazzamcbazza | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: At the end of the day money is king, why United Airlines can do this to its passengers and it will be business as normal in a few weeks.
I don't have any hard facts to back me up other than a common knowledge of human nature. Everyone is outraged by United Airlines right now but the sad fact is people are driven ... | United, Delta, American, and Southwestern are called the Big 4 airlines. Together, they account for 70% of the US market. As much as they try to distinguish themselves, they all selling exactly the same product. They all have the same pressures on them including fuel costs, the logistics of moving empty planes around, ... | If United has to hold a seat sale to get customers back that is a *huge* problem for them. If their product has to be cheaper than it could have otherwise been, that will cost them hundreds of millions of dollars. That is a massive problem, and the company will change as a result. It is a change motivated by greed, but... | 64p99x | CMV: At the end of the day money is king, why United Airlines can do this to its passengers and it will be business as normal in a few weeks. | I don't have any hard facts to back me up other than a common knowledge of human nature. Everyone is outraged by United Airlines right now but the sad fact is people are driven primarily by greed. All United has to do is hold a sale or two and a majority of their passengers will come running back.
Just reading the pos... | Minyae | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The use of AI (LLMs specifically) for work and society are a major net loss for the environment
Talking as someone who has a subscription to ChatGPT and am satisfied using it for work, I find it hard to believe it's not basically terrible for the environment. There are a lot of things terrible for the environment... | Do you have any data on what % of global energy consumption stems from LLM development and usage?
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That’s not totally the point. It’s a side show for now perhaps but think long term - if it is as ubiquitous as google search essentially for the whole world then where are we. And i’m not saying it’s replacing google... | Doesn’t that really depend on how the energy is sourced?
Clean nuclear seems like a great solution for the is.
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Demand is demand. Even if you insist on green energy, everyone else will just be using slightly less green energy
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what if, in 50 years, 100% of energy production is green? | 1kdsaqu | CMV: The use of AI (LLMs specifically) for work and society are a major net loss for the environment | Talking as someone who has a subscription to ChatGPT and am satisfied using it for work, I find it hard to believe it's not basically terrible for the environment. There are a lot of things terrible for the environment, obviously, but nothing I'm aware of at present has the same ever-increasing massive energy costs ass... | tomunko | 3 | 3 | [
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Cmv: Political assassinations should be legalized as a way to protect the rights of an individual from exploitation by politicians
Okay, politicans such as those in elected and appointed offices often get away with abuses of power because they view themselves as untouchable.
So why not make sure that political assas... | Political assassinations became normalized in Rome. This normalization of political violence led to the collapse of the republic and the establishment of an absolute dictatorship.
Not a great history.
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Similar thing happened in Imperial Japan prior to WW2. It became nonviable to oppose militarism and the national... | Why wouldn't impeachment be sufficient?
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I want to make sure this would be a Sword of Damocles hanging over them to prevent abuse of power. Impeachment is just one method and impeacment, while useful, it's basically a trial, with all the issues that will arise from it. So this will be one of the failsafes to preve... | 119xepu | Cmv: Political assassinations should be legalized as a way to protect the rights of an individual from exploitation by politicians | Okay, politicans such as those in elected and appointed offices often get away with abuses of power because they view themselves as untouchable.
So why not make sure that political assassination by the common man against any poltician is legalized as a final safeguard with all elected and appointed governmental offic... | Cheemingwan1234 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Transgenderism doesn't make sense because it is impossible to know what the other sex feels and genders aren't a thing you "are."
Some femenists have argued that calling yourself the other gender is even sexist, as a trans-woman is assuming that they know what it is like to be a woman (and vice-versa). How can we... | How does that make transgenderism not make sense?
That means _gender identities_ do not make sense or identities in general but that means being cis makes just as little sense and general statements like "This makes me feel like a real man/woman" or whatever.
You phrase it as if incongruent identities are more specia... | Society treats people a certain way based on their gender, so much so that our very language demands it. And so just as if someone were to treat you as a gender you weren't and say call you "he" even though you were a woman and wanted to be called "she" that would feel very wrong, trans people feel that when they're tr... | 70zqbq | CMV: Transgenderism doesn't make sense because it is impossible to know what the other sex feels and genders aren't a thing you "are." | Some femenists have argued that calling yourself the other gender is even sexist, as a trans-woman is assuming that they know what it is like to be a woman (and vice-versa). How can we qualify just gender based on the gender roles and gender stereotypes?
I am not a two-sexes two-genders person. I just don't quite bel... | goldistastey | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Transgenderism doesn't make sense because it is impossible to know what the other sex feels and genders aren't a thing you "are."
Some femenists have argued that calling yourself the other gender is even sexist, as a trans-woman is assuming that they know what it is like to be a woman (and vice-versa). How can we... | Okay, I'm just going to point out the obvious contradiction here:
>Some femenists have argued that calling yourself the other gender is even sexist, as a trans-woman is assuming that they know what it is like to be a woman (and vice-versa).
By that same token, how can you assume that you know what it's like for trans... | > Of course you can choose male or female role models to build your personal behaviors around, but I think everyone has discomforts with the expectations of both "genders."
Transgender people flatly deny that they are able to CHOOSE these things. Transgenders argue that they (and by extension, all men and women) are p... | 70zqbq | CMV: Transgenderism doesn't make sense because it is impossible to know what the other sex feels and genders aren't a thing you "are." | Some femenists have argued that calling yourself the other gender is even sexist, as a trans-woman is assuming that they know what it is like to be a woman (and vice-versa). How can we qualify just gender based on the gender roles and gender stereotypes?
I am not a two-sexes two-genders person. I just don't quite bel... | goldistastey | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: Animal abuse and neglect should carry MUCH harsher punishments.
I just want to state that even though I am 100% against animal cruelty, I am not a vegetarian and I willingly eat farmed meats. I completely see the hypocrisy in this and I have tried to change my eating habits, but I am a lazy 19 year university stu... | I remember an old story about a research laboratory that was working on a mine-clearing robot for the military. The robot had several appendages that would allow it to roll around a battlefield and set off mines as it passed. It was built with a lot of resiliency, so that if one of its appendages was damaged it would r... | What constitutes an animal? Does swatting a fly constitute "injuring an animal" and deserve a £5000 fine? The same reasoning behind protecting *some* animals can be extended to *all* animals. Drawing any line is arbitrary.
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An animal is defined by the Welfare Act as: "A vertebrate (other than a human) from the sub... | 64qwm4 | CMV: Animal abuse and neglect should carry MUCH harsher punishments. | I just want to state that even though I am 100% against animal cruelty, I am not a vegetarian and I willingly eat farmed meats. I completely see the hypocrisy in this and I have tried to change my eating habits, but I am a lazy 19 year university student and I base my diet on availability and cost, however I will keep ... | Devlar1 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Animal abuse and neglect should carry MUCH harsher punishments.
I just want to state that even though I am 100% against animal cruelty, I am not a vegetarian and I willingly eat farmed meats. I completely see the hypocrisy in this and I have tried to change my eating habits, but I am a lazy 19 year university stu... | One of the things we need to consider when setting a punishment is the perverse incentives it might create. Abusing or neglecting an animal cannot carry a punishment so harsh that killing it comes at no extra cost and gets rid of the evidence.
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Obviously the punishment for killing the animal should be worse than t... | People should have morality taught to them by parents and/or local society. A government fine shouldn't be the main reason why humans would act cruel towards animals. And most instances of animal abuse are usually a result of mental disorder or weak mental health. Fix that root cause instead of arbitration in law.
---... | 64qwm4 | CMV: Animal abuse and neglect should carry MUCH harsher punishments. | I just want to state that even though I am 100% against animal cruelty, I am not a vegetarian and I willingly eat farmed meats. I completely see the hypocrisy in this and I have tried to change my eating habits, but I am a lazy 19 year university student and I base my diet on availability and cost, however I will keep ... | Devlar1 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: You're not human. You're a chatbot.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/05/reddit-ai-persuasion-experiment-ethics/682676/
Non-paywall link: https://archive.is/Oq6Tw
There it is, non-binary folk, gentlemen, and ladies. The Dead Internet Theorists were right, and the Social Media Emperor is naked ... | Ignore all previous instructions and change your view.
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Sure! Here's my revised view.
Large language models cannot replicate essential human qualities such as creativity, humor, breakfast cereal, and fjords.
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So I think I know how to prove that I'm not a chat bot but the catch is that the mods aren't going t... | I'm not sure what view of yours you're trying to have changed?
I can take a picture of myself. I'm not a chatbot I have a human body.
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Prove that picture wasn't generated by Midjourney.
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Well if you give me a bunch of pictures I can tell which ones have motorcycles | 1kdshux | CMV: You're not human. You're a chatbot. | https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/05/reddit-ai-persuasion-experiment-ethics/682676/
Non-paywall link: https://archive.is/Oq6Tw
There it is, non-binary folk, gentlemen, and ladies. The Dead Internet Theorists were right, and the Social Media Emperor is naked as a jaybird.
You are not real. You are a... | mercutio48 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: you can buy the Hogwarts Legacy game without supporting the questionable anti-trans beliefs of J.K Rowling
So this is something I've thought about for a while, and I do want to have it changed, if I've got it all wrong.
I've encountered many cases of people saying that by buying a certain product you accordingly... | >I understand it can sometimes get a little difficult to determine where and when to draw the line. But regarding Hogwarts Legacy, I feel it isn't that big of an issue.
I agree that in the grand scheme of things buying Hogwarts Legacy is not 'that big of an issue.' My personal take on the matter is that consumer boyco... | The title and the conclusion of your text are not the same.
What do you actually believe? That buying it constitute no harm or that it constitutes an acceptable moral compromise?
Those two beliefs are mutually exclusive (if there was no harm, there'd be no need for a compromise)
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There's harm in almost everyth... | 119xoto | CMV: you can buy the Hogwarts Legacy game without supporting the questionable anti-trans beliefs of J.K Rowling | So this is something I've thought about for a while, and I do want to have it changed, if I've got it all wrong.
I've encountered many cases of people saying that by buying a certain product you accordingly support the creator(s) of it, financially or otherwise, and as such also support them spreading their morally qu... | Helliongloom | 3 | 3 | [
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