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CMV: High Schools exercise too much power over students' lives.
High School Students are subject to **rules** and **regulations** by a *government institution* that limit them from having all the rights expressed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Students are not allowed to say what they want, when they want... | High schools exercise just the amount of power they need to in order to operate at all. They must function in place of the parents otherwise you will be called daily and forced to come to the school to deal with things that they do not have the authority to deal with, rendering society non-functioning as people lose th... | So, I read in the other comments that you seem to specifically have a gripe with schools reaching outside of their grounds to punish or discipline students while they are not at school. I have to say this was not my experience in school at all (although that was some time ago, before everyone had smartphones). Enligh... | 6bmihm | CMV: High Schools exercise too much power over students' lives. | High School Students are subject to **rules** and **regulations** by a *government institution* that limit them from having all the rights expressed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Students are not allowed to say what they want, when they want. Students can even be punished for saying "inappropriate phrases... | eterlearner | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Cancelling US Student Debt May Be a Very Bad Idea
In light of Elizabeth Warren coming out in favor of a massive student debt relief project, I thought it may be good to share my perspective. A lot of takes on this issue have been about "fairness" for those that worked their way through college, saved money, joine... | Frankly, I think the argument is pretty absurd.
The amount of additional carbon released into the atmosphere as the result of some people being able to afford houses would hardly be significant. It would really only be new construction that supports your argument, and it would be a drop in the bucket.
If reducing ca... | By this logic, should we just make everything super expensive as to reduce consumption?
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I believe that the price of things should accurately reflect the price it costs to offset the carbon footprint associated with that purchase. Specifically, companies should be taxed or have to purchase rights for environmental... | bgkfkp | CMV: Cancelling US Student Debt May Be a Very Bad Idea | In light of Elizabeth Warren coming out in favor of a massive student debt relief project, I thought it may be good to share my perspective. A lot of takes on this issue have been about "fairness" for those that worked their way through college, saved money, joined the military, etc. I'm not going to argue on those ter... | I_Am_Abah | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I shouldn't have to respect or thank the military at all.
I used to be a pretty conservative person that believed that one should always have respect for police and military personnel but 20 years of the War on Terror brought me to adopt some pretty pacifistic beliefs.
So why should I respect military per... | I don't think you owe anyone a "debt of gratitude" for joining in the military, but I do think that a more base level "respect" is a different thing.
First off, unless we're talking about someone who very much was involved in doing a war crime, they probably are someone who was trying their best to do an ok thing. Yo... | > So why should I respect military personnel for participating in something I don't believe in?
1. Because they have to do what they are ordered to do.
2. Because if they don’t do it you would have to.
“Thanks for doing this so I didn’t have to” would be just fine.
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U.S. Soldiers have a duty to refuse an unju... | 11czdix | CMV: I shouldn't have to respect or thank the military at all. | I used to be a pretty conservative person that believed that one should always have respect for police and military personnel but 20 years of the War on Terror brought me to adopt some pretty pacifistic beliefs.
So why should I respect military personnel for participating in something I don't believe in? I'm ... | ulsterloyalistfurry | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I shouldn't have to respect or thank the military at all.
I used to be a pretty conservative person that believed that one should always have respect for police and military personnel but 20 years of the War on Terror brought me to adopt some pretty pacifistic beliefs.
So why should I respect military per... | > Why should I respect someone who occupies foreign soil for an indefinite amount of time with no clear exit strategy?
You don't need to respect that lack of clear strategy, but that isn't at all the responsibility of the soldiers in the field. They signed up to serve the interests of their country, it isn't their... | It's a balancing act.
If you take "respect and thanks" to extremes of military worship, it's a sign of impending fascism. It's no good if your "respect" leaves no room for rational criticism of military activity or spending. And in that sense, you shouldn't be pressured to participate.
But on the other end of the sp... | 11czdix | CMV: I shouldn't have to respect or thank the military at all. | I used to be a pretty conservative person that believed that one should always have respect for police and military personnel but 20 years of the War on Terror brought me to adopt some pretty pacifistic beliefs.
So why should I respect military personnel for participating in something I don't believe in? I'm ... | ulsterloyalistfurry | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV, Banning someone from a Subreddit, simply because they participate in another Subreddit is wrong and not something that should be allowed.
So to be clear.
If a person has been banned from a subreddit, the moderators of that subreddit should have to have at least 1 post in that subreddit to ban you for. I would ev... | [deleted]
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You are probably right. I think you have gotten to the heart of this for most of this discussion.
If you are willing could we talk about my final bit as I hope to explore the idea of subs that are directly opposed to each other in 'mission' statement and are not multifaceted subs. So for instance a sub... | You say it shouldn't be allowed, but how would you enforce that? Are you proposing that mods no longer have control over the subs they create and mod?
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No. I am saying that to ban a person that person must have atleast commented in the sub at least once. The only make the second part "there must be atleast 1 post ... | bk8kqv | CMV, Banning someone from a Subreddit, simply because they participate in another Subreddit is wrong and not something that should be allowed. | So to be clear.
If a person has been banned from a subreddit, the moderators of that subreddit should have to have at least 1 post in that subreddit to ban you for. I would even go so far as to say there must be atleast 1 post in the subreddit that they can point to as you causing problems or breaking their rules.
I... | Da_Penguins | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children.
My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a... | Why did you think extroverts are better at raising children? Because they're not pushovers?
Introverts aren't pushovers. Introverts are some of the greatest leaders, partly because of self reflection and a calming demeanor. These would be great for parenting too.
Some of the greats include Abraham Lincoln, Eleanor Ro... | Are you comfortable with using fuzzy science anecdotes, sterotypes and opinion to dictate who should and shouldn't have children? That whole eugenics thing has had a pretty bad rep these past couple centuries.
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well, some things should be common sense, I am not wanting to dictate, but spread awareness... introvert... | 6bhmsi | CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children. | My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a child is to be an extrovert, that's why I... | Garlicplanet | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children.
My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a... | How do introverts harm society exactly?
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it hurts by the lack of emotion, how distant they are from their children? less communication, less emotion, maybe even less love... I see many negatives.
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In a society that was mostly introverted, you would probably claim that extroverts 'harm society' by being too lo... | > If you have kids you should want to be with them 24/7, if not, why bother?
Wouldn't it be the introverts who would rather stay home with their kids as opposed to extroverts who get pleasure from going out?
> because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do...
I'm not really following your... | 6bhmsi | CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children. | My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a child is to be an extrovert, that's why I... | Garlicplanet | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children.
My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a... | Why did you think extroverts are better at raising children? Because they're not pushovers?
Introverts aren't pushovers. Introverts are some of the greatest leaders, partly because of self reflection and a calming demeanor. These would be great for parenting too.
Some of the greats include Abraham Lincoln, Eleanor Ro... | Are you comfortable with using fuzzy science anecdotes, sterotypes and opinion to dictate who should and shouldn't have children? That whole eugenics thing has had a pretty bad rep these past couple centuries.
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well, some things should be common sense, I am not wanting to dictate, but spread awareness... introvert... | 6bhmsi | CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children. | My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a child is to be an extrovert, that's why I... | Garlicplanet | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children.
My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a... | You seem to be confusing introversion for social ineptitude. Almost everyone is introverted to some degree. Even most people who are introverts can do perfectly well in social situations. It just gets tiring for them to have to socialize constantly. Kids don't need constant socializing. They might need constant supervi... | Categorizing a person by a single characteristic of their personality (introverted vs extroverted) is a very narrow-minded way to determine what life choices are appropriate for other people to make.
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Maybe you have a point with categorizations, but people do it all the time... I was categorized as introvert sinc... | 6bhmsi | CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children. | My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a child is to be an extrovert, that's why I... | Garlicplanet | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children.
My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a... | > The adequacy of the firm’s response dated September April 12th, 2017, cannot be determined
Why? Introverts can deal with close friends, family members, etc just fine. They just find large numbers of people who always want something from them, to be draining (at least how I understand being an introvert).
> If you ... | >Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do
Do you have a source for this? I'm unaware of a study that determined that children raised by introverts had worse life outcomes than children raised by extroverts.
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not a source... it is the definition... introverts don't like staying ar... | 6bhmsi | CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children. | My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a child is to be an extrovert, that's why I... | Garlicplanet | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children.
My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a... | Are you comfortable with using fuzzy science anecdotes, sterotypes and opinion to dictate who should and shouldn't have children? That whole eugenics thing has had a pretty bad rep these past couple centuries.
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well, some things should be common sense, I am not wanting to dictate, but spread awareness... introvert... | How do introverts harm society exactly?
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it hurts by the lack of emotion, how distant they are from their children? less communication, less emotion, maybe even less love... I see many negatives.
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Maybe even love? Why would introverts experience love less than extroverts?
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CMV: Introverts shouldn't have children.
My view is very simple: introverts shouldn't have children. Why? Because introverts are not able to deal with kids as good as extroverts do... They should be all discouraged for the betterment of society. I am one of those introverts and I recognize that the best way to raise a... | Categorizing a person by a single characteristic of their personality (introverted vs extroverted) is a very narrow-minded way to determine what life choices are appropriate for other people to make.
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Maybe you have a point with categorizations, but people do it all the time... I was categorized as introvert sinc... | Are you comfortable with using fuzzy science anecdotes, sterotypes and opinion to dictate who should and shouldn't have children? That whole eugenics thing has had a pretty bad rep these past couple centuries.
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CMV: Corporations ARE Taxed Fairly
Hello CMV! This is my first new post on CMV, I am looking forward to hearing what the community has to say on this topic. Thanks in advance!
First off, saying things like, "GE and Amazon paid no (or very little) taxes last year" is a very popular talking point for many politicians. ... | The thing that is unfair here is that some of the largest and most profitable corporations (e.g. GE and Amazon) pay little to no corporate tax, while other smaller and less profitable corporations _do_ have to pay corporate tax in full. This creates an unfair playing field. The fact that these corporations that don't p... | The argument here is essentially that people who work for corporations already pay taxes, so the corporation shouldn't have to, but why? We as a country have decided that corporations ought also to pay taxes because they're an entity; why shouldn't we collect those taxes?
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Maybe you could name some other examples ... | bjwgpa | CMV: Corporations ARE Taxed Fairly | Hello CMV! This is my first new post on CMV, I am looking forward to hearing what the community has to say on this topic. Thanks in advance!
First off, saying things like, "GE and Amazon paid no (or very little) taxes last year" is a very popular talking point for many politicians. While I believe that they may actual... | jlangfo5 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Occasional self harm is not worse than sometimes drinking alcohol
I have been struggling with this issue for some times. And I thought in my mind seems to tell me that self harm is a mechanism no different to drinking, thus as long as I could control it it isn’t a big deal. I recognise that my views are not entir... | Self harm is a self destructive addictive maladaptive coping mechanism. Drinking alcohol in excessive amounts can be an addictive maladaptive coping mechanism but having one beer is not because
1.) it’s socially acceptable and can even be a social activity. I’ve never heard of friends getting together after work to “... | What kind of occasional drinking are we talking about? Getting black out drunk occasionally or drinking 1 glass of beer?
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Drinking 1 glass of beer after a rough day sort of occasional drinking.
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The risks of a glass of beer are minimal compared to the risk of cutting oneself and other forms of self harm. Yo... | fjkked | CMV: Occasional self harm is not worse than sometimes drinking alcohol | I have been struggling with this issue for some times. And I thought in my mind seems to tell me that self harm is a mechanism no different to drinking, thus as long as I could control it it isn’t a big deal. I recognise that my views are not entirely correct but couldn’t pin point exactly why.
My main argument is th... | Charlotte-brunette | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The US President should regain Line-item veto over every legislation, a power lost in 1998.
>Forty-four of the 50 U.S. states give their governors some form of line-item veto power, and U.S Presidents have been asking congress for such power for decades. Until 1996, when Clinton received it for two years. Shortly... | This opens the door for all type of gimmicks, i can see them already unfolding in my mind
​
trump says “ok ill give you funding for the poor and hungry but you need to give me tax breaks for the rich”
​
so the democrats agree to his conditions and he says
”ya know what? Im not really feeling that ... | > An absolute majority (2/3) of the votes of House members and Senators is needed for the veto to be overridden.
why would congress be willing to make any compromises, if the president can just cross out half the terms, and it requires 2/3 of congress to override?
---
I have updated the measure to only require a sim... | 11cu9rv | CMV: The US President should regain Line-item veto over every legislation, a power lost in 1998. | >Forty-four of the 50 U.S. states give their governors some form of line-item veto power, and U.S Presidents have been asking congress for such power for decades. Until 1996, when Clinton received it for two years. Shortly after, a 6–3 decision from SCOTUS found "Line-item veto" unconstitutional.
Considering that SCOT... | Dr_Macunayme | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The US President should regain Line-item veto over every legislation, a power lost in 1998.
>Forty-four of the 50 U.S. states give their governors some form of line-item veto power, and U.S Presidents have been asking congress for such power for decades. Until 1996, when Clinton received it for two years. Shortly... | So you prefer power to be focused in one ruler? That seems doomed to failure. Checks and balances are the reason we still have democracies.
---
*Are 44 of our 50 states Autocratic Dictatorships?* No. Those are red, blue and purple states, and they all function fine. It just changes how lawmakers plan their bills.
Bo... | This opens the door for all type of gimmicks, i can see them already unfolding in my mind
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trump says “ok ill give you funding for the poor and hungry but you need to give me tax breaks for the rich”
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so the democrats agree to his conditions and he says
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CMV: The US President should regain Line-item veto over every legislation, a power lost in 1998.
>Forty-four of the 50 U.S. states give their governors some form of line-item veto power, and U.S Presidents have been asking congress for such power for decades. Until 1996, when Clinton received it for two years. Shortly... | So you prefer power to be focused in one ruler? That seems doomed to failure. Checks and balances are the reason we still have democracies.
---
It's not Power.
It's an additional check and balance.
---
One man having the ability to unilaterally prevent any and all legislation from passing isn't power? Hmm
---... | >and diminish corrupt deals of "this-for-that."
Ahh yes, that's what we need. Less bi-partisanship! Look, pork barrel spending, riders, logrolling etc are all a necessary evil. We already have an immense amount of difficulty getting any agreement between the two parties, a line-item veto would make it worse.
---
Tha... | 11cu9rv | CMV: The US President should regain Line-item veto over every legislation, a power lost in 1998. | >Forty-four of the 50 U.S. states give their governors some form of line-item veto power, and U.S Presidents have been asking congress for such power for decades. Until 1996, when Clinton received it for two years. Shortly after, a 6–3 decision from SCOTUS found "Line-item veto" unconstitutional.
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CMV: It is hypocritical for a muslim women to also be a feminist.
My view is based on the teaching of Quran. A muslim is required to believe that Quran is the literal word of Allah himself and written by the most perfect man i.e Muhammad so if you are a muslim you have to take it's each and every word as the ultimate ... | There are a lot of sects of Islam why can't I belong to one that thinks that passage is antiquated and call myself a Muslim feminist?
---
Which sect believes some passages of Quran is corrupted literature? Afaik all muslims believe Quran to be the greatest book which has survived as it is from times of Muhammad. Hell... | Is it not also hypocritical for Christian women to be feminists, then?
---
Whataboutism. Stick to the topic. I am not aware of Christianity to comment.
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Fine. Could not a devout Muslim wish to abide by the teachings of her faith while also having a deep belief that other women should be able to do whatever they... | bjx54m | CMV: It is hypocritical for a muslim women to also be a feminist. | My view is based on the teaching of Quran. A muslim is required to believe that Quran is the literal word of Allah himself and written by the most perfect man i.e Muhammad so if you are a muslim you have to take it's each and every word as the ultimate truth. Now this is what Quran says about women and their relationsh... | ajeebprani | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: There are no historical figures that would stand up to today's "accepted moral standards"* enough to not have someone complain about a statue of them
There is a lot of footage of the vandalism of various statues or monuments because the protest at the time does not agree with what that historical figure did. I ca... | *Someone* will always complain about something. That's not the same as celebrating someone whose values disgust the majority of people.
I'm sure that it would be trivially easy to find something in the lives of John Keats or Mary Wollstonecraft or Thomas Paine that would seem distasteful to modern ears. But what they... | Okay. Why should we commemorate them via statues though?
---
Well take Edward Colston for example, the man was involved in the slave trade as a member of the royal African company and just the other day his statue in Bristol was pulled down and thrown into a river, but his statue was erected for his good deeds that i... | gzt52y | CMV: There are no historical figures that would stand up to today's "accepted moral standards"* enough to not have someone complain about a statue of them | There is a lot of footage of the vandalism of various statues or monuments because the protest at the time does not agree with what that historical figure did. I can't think of anyone who would pass the test without offending at least one significant group of people. Some of them are obvious (e.g. Edward Colston in Br... | JD1000001 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Doctor notes for minimum wage workers is bullshit and only a way to exert control.
My best friend is sick with a stomach bug and needed to call out of work… *Dominoes* demands she get a doctors note. For a minimum wage delivery job.
This absolutely infuriates me— I’m a lawyer, and this is absolutely never a req... | Well, business owners need to know that they're not being lied to by staff.
Also, Please explain why you want your view changed.
---
Why do they “need” to know they’re being lied to about being sick? The consequence for calling out is not getting paid… now they have to spend money just to prove they can’t go to w... | Worked as a manager at Wendy's for 3 years.
Yes at my current job. I've literally never been asked for a doctors note.
The reason is very simple. My director trusts me. They know if I say I'm sick I probably am.
This is often NOT THE CASE with min wage type workers. They are very often full of shit. Just pretending ... | 11ckroc | CMV: Doctor notes for minimum wage workers is bullshit and only a way to exert control. | My best friend is sick with a stomach bug and needed to call out of work… *Dominoes* demands she get a doctors note. For a minimum wage delivery job.
This absolutely infuriates me— I’m a lawyer, and this is absolutely never a requirement in the corporate professional world, unless you’re requesting some kind of short... | kerberos69 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Doctor notes for minimum wage workers is bullshit and only a way to exert control.
My best friend is sick with a stomach bug and needed to call out of work… *Dominoes* demands she get a doctors note. For a minimum wage delivery job.
This absolutely infuriates me— I’m a lawyer, and this is absolutely never a req... | Well, business owners need to know that they're not being lied to by staff.
Also, Please explain why you want your view changed.
---
Why do they “need” to know they’re being lied to about being sick? The consequence for calling out is not getting paid… now they have to spend money just to prove they can’t go to w... | Worked as a manager at Wendy's for 3 years.
Yes at my current job. I've literally never been asked for a doctors note.
The reason is very simple. My director trusts me. They know if I say I'm sick I probably am.
This is often NOT THE CASE with min wage type workers. They are very often full of shit. Just pretending ... | 11ckroc | CMV: Doctor notes for minimum wage workers is bullshit and only a way to exert control. | My best friend is sick with a stomach bug and needed to call out of work… *Dominoes* demands she get a doctors note. For a minimum wage delivery job.
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CMV: Drugs should remain banned in countries with little or no drug problem, such as China or Japan
Edi: I'm talking about recreational not medical drugs. Medical drugs should be legalized.
The US and the West only legalised some soft drugs like Marijuana because they could not ban them effectively. They lost their... | I regularly think about this myself and generally agree with you that we should regulate and legalize things society has accepted while further getting rid of stuff society does not accept preventing people from getting issues. Cigarettes i. the US for example being uncommon enough that you could ban youth from consumi... | If you are believing the numbers the Chinese government is telling you, then I think it would be hard for anyone to change your view.
Theyre not the most honest people.
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How about not personally knowing a single drug addict in my 21 years of life (and my parents' 50 years of lives), if you don't trust the governme... | 11c9a2c | CMV: Drugs should remain banned in countries with little or no drug problem, such as China or Japan | Edi: I'm talking about recreational not medical drugs. Medical drugs should be legalized.
The US and the West only legalised some soft drugs like Marijuana because they could not ban them effectively. They lost their War on Drugs. However, in China or Japan where almost no one does drugs, suddenly legalising them wo... | TheShoA17 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Drugs should remain banned in countries with little or no drug problem, such as China or Japan
Edi: I'm talking about recreational not medical drugs. Medical drugs should be legalized.
The US and the West only legalised some soft drugs like Marijuana because they could not ban them effectively. They lost their... | What about the moral argument? What you put inside your body, or possess, or sell, as long as everything is consensual, shouldn’t be banned. What do you say to this argument?
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I agree in principle but as the media, the state, the public opinion etc are all heavily influenced by capitalists, poor people would be co... | If you are believing the numbers the Chinese government is telling you, then I think it would be hard for anyone to change your view.
Theyre not the most honest people.
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How about not personally knowing a single drug addict in my 21 years of life (and my parents' 50 years of lives), if you don't trust the governme... | 11c9a2c | CMV: Drugs should remain banned in countries with little or no drug problem, such as China or Japan | Edi: I'm talking about recreational not medical drugs. Medical drugs should be legalized.
The US and the West only legalised some soft drugs like Marijuana because they could not ban them effectively. They lost their War on Drugs. However, in China or Japan where almost no one does drugs, suddenly legalising them wo... | TheShoA17 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: if you're undergoing IVF, it should be legal to choose your baby's gender
YouTuber couple Count Dankula and Sue Hulk recently announced that they are going through the process of IVF in order to have a child. In [Dankula's latest video](https://youtu.be/0xW2Q0Z0OI4), he states near the end that one problem he has... | What you're proposing is 'step one' in the direction of a 'designer baby'. At first, you 'only' choose the gender. Next comes eye color, hair color, height, body type, intelligence, sexual orientation, ...
I mean, I know we don't know the genetic and/or chromosomal markers for most of those things yet; at least not a... | My wife and I had to go through 9 years of fertility treatments, including five IVF treatments.
The idea of choosing a gender during fertility treatment is wildly naive. When you're at the point of IVF, choosing gender is irrelevant, you're going to be happy with a boy, girl or wookiee. You are assuming that the IVF p... | fj9n1n | CMV: if you're undergoing IVF, it should be legal to choose your baby's gender | YouTuber couple Count Dankula and Sue Hulk recently announced that they are going through the process of IVF in order to have a child. In [Dankula's latest video](https://youtu.be/0xW2Q0Z0OI4), he states near the end that one problem he has encountered is that, despite the fact it can easily be done, the laws governing... | theinspector5 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The right to choose whether or not to have a child should go both ways
I am a firm believer in abortion for both moral and practical reasons. I believe that women should have a choice when it comes to whether or not they'd like to give birth.
I also believe something quite controversial, I believe that a father ... | I'm going to say in response to your post basically the same thing that I try to say whenever this topic comes up on this subreddit, which is a lot. "Paper abortions" (what you're describing) seem like a sort of nice idea in theory from one perspective. But literally the only person this proposal benefits is men who wa... | If men or women don't want the responsibilities of parenthood, then they don't have to engage in sex. THAT's where the right of choice is used.
And, before a responder brings it up, I'm fine with keeping abortion legal for cases of rape, danger to the mom's life, or doctors determining that the baby won't survive bir... | 11bzdko | CMV: The right to choose whether or not to have a child should go both ways | I am a firm believer in abortion for both moral and practical reasons. I believe that women should have a choice when it comes to whether or not they'd like to give birth.
I also believe something quite controversial, I believe that a father should be allowed to choose to completely exit fatherhood and avoid all respo... | Suspiciously_Flawed | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Individuals should be allowed to upload videos of reading copyrighted picture books to YouTube
YouTube, and publishers of picture books, should turn a blind eye to individuals reading copyrighted picture books on the platform. They shouldn’t use automated tools to detect and take videos down, and they shouldn’t i... | You've not given any reasons why it should be allowed other than you want to do it.
If you want to send videos of family reading the book to family, there are ways outside of YouTube to do that.
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I'm not advocating a change in the legal text of the copyright laws, just that certain organizations change how active... | Should people be allowed to narrate full movies? Sounds like the same thing to me.
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What would narrating a full movie entail? Someone voicing over all of the actors, or giving a running verbal description of what's happening in the movie? Would it encourage children to read books?
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Why would watching a video... | 16ja5u6 | CMV: Individuals should be allowed to upload videos of reading copyrighted picture books to YouTube | YouTube, and publishers of picture books, should turn a blind eye to individuals reading copyrighted picture books on the platform. They shouldn’t use automated tools to detect and take videos down, and they shouldn’t issue copyright strikes for these videos.
Book publishers should either grant permission for requests... | El_dorado_au | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Asian is not a race
Asian is not a race. The continent of Asia is incredibly diverse and by no means all people and phenotype can be described as a single race. Many US-americans and people from other regions of the world think of East Asian people, while many Brits think of South Asian people. Both are not repre... | Is this different from "black" or "white"? Same thing applies there. There are countless different racial backgrounds for black, white, and any other group, it's just saying people are from that general racial category.
---
Asian is not even one single racial category. As I said, Asia is incredibly phenotypically div... | Well, if I refer to an article East Asian as central Asian, I could offend that person.
Trying to categorize people into regions of Asia is a lot harder than just referring to them as asian.
Similarly, calling white people white or Caucasian is a lot easier than trying to determine if their Sicilian or Nord... | 11buz2p | CMV: Asian is not a race | Asian is not a race. The continent of Asia is incredibly diverse and by no means all people and phenotype can be described as a single race. Many US-americans and people from other regions of the world think of East Asian people, while many Brits think of South Asian people. Both are not representative of the entire co... | sherazala | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Asian is not a race
Asian is not a race. The continent of Asia is incredibly diverse and by no means all people and phenotype can be described as a single race. Many US-americans and people from other regions of the world think of East Asian people, while many Brits think of South Asian people. Both are not repre... | Can you give examples of what you think other races are, are black or white people a race?
Does it matter if a race is a group of phenotypes instead of a single one?
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Let me say two things:
1. Black is a race and white is a race.
2. It does, because people from different areas of Asia don't have much in common ... | It's descriptive word whose meaning depends on context, which is true of most words. There are many contexts where it's less ambiguous to say "East Asian" or "South Asian". But in other contexts, just "Asian" will suffice.
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True, but that doesn't make it a race. !delta
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This delta has been rejected. The lengt... | 11buz2p | CMV: Asian is not a race | Asian is not a race. The continent of Asia is incredibly diverse and by no means all people and phenotype can be described as a single race. Many US-americans and people from other regions of the world think of East Asian people, while many Brits think of South Asian people. Both are not representative of the entire co... | sherazala | 3 | 3 | [
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Asian is not a race. The continent of Asia is incredibly diverse and by no means all people and phenotype can be described as a single race. Many US-americans and people from other regions of the world think of East Asian people, while many Brits think of South Asian people. Both are not repre... | Well, if I refer to an article East Asian as central Asian, I could offend that person.
Trying to categorize people into regions of Asia is a lot harder than just referring to them as asian.
Similarly, calling white people white or Caucasian is a lot easier than trying to determine if their Sicilian or Nord... | Can you give examples of what you think other races are, are black or white people a race?
Does it matter if a race is a group of phenotypes instead of a single one?
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>Does it matter if a race is a group of phenotypes instead of a single one?
It should be consistent
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So as other races aren't one phenotype ... | 11buz2p | CMV: Asian is not a race | Asian is not a race. The continent of Asia is incredibly diverse and by no means all people and phenotype can be described as a single race. Many US-americans and people from other regions of the world think of East Asian people, while many Brits think of South Asian people. Both are not representative of the entire co... | sherazala | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Unless christian* , there's no reason in NOT being a non-radical Incel IF you have no success with women.
I just noticed that thing.
In a non-radical incel point of view ( temporarely count " radical incel" as the ones who say women should die or get raped ) they simply see that men should not be forced to thre... | This all falls apart because it is based on a simple premise. That a guy can be so ugly no woman would show interest in him PURELY based on his looks. Edit : replying to the example. No one has the right to expect people to be attracted to them. They have the right to be respected and if she disrespected him in done wa... | Your argument seems to be because of some individual women treating incels poorly, incels are right to treat all women with disdain?
The incel ideology has never been about each person being an individual who needs to be treated justly based on their individual actions. Its about grouping people together into made up ... | 8s85zy | CMV: Unless christian* , there's no reason in NOT being a non-radical Incel IF you have no success with women. | I just noticed that thing.
In a non-radical incel point of view ( temporarely count " radical incel" as the ones who say women should die or get raped ) they simply see that men should not be forced to threat women decently IF ( read twenty times ) they do not do the same.
Unless you are christian ( and by so bound ... | heldex | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't deserve to love myself if I'm suffering from so many problems.
People always say to love yourself. But here's the problem: I am full of problems. I have anger management problems, I have trouble accepting criticism, I'm not ready to get a girlfriend yet, I have trouble resolving conflicts skills, I strugg... | Loving yourself doesn't mean you think you're perfect now. At no point in life does it seem appropriate to me to love yourself for being perfect.
Loving yourself means being compassionate about deficits and making a "safe space" (mentally) to look at those things and contemplate them. Everybody struggles to some exte... | Mate, love is not about right or wrong. Loving yourself doesn't mean loving the way you are. It means being able to hold yourself when you're falling apart, It's the ability to find some warmth within yourself when the cold world has had It's way with you. The only way to change and grow is to first allow yourself to l... | pm3wyy | CMV: I don't deserve to love myself if I'm suffering from so many problems. | People always say to love yourself. But here's the problem: I am full of problems. I have anger management problems, I have trouble accepting criticism, I'm not ready to get a girlfriend yet, I have trouble resolving conflicts skills, I struggle with social skills, etc, etc. Yeah you can call me an emotionally unstable... | CEO_Of_Rejection_99 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Voting for/Supporting Donald Trump should be considered accessory to murder and be punished as such.
Update: My view has successfully been changed. I will be slowing replies and only finish started conversations and not begin new ones as I need to work towards going to bed. The beliefs I made this post to change ... | I appreciate your sentiment. I am not a fan of Trump myself, except as an object of ridicule, at which he excels more than any other politician in history.
​
However, given that you are anti-Trump, I think I can safely assume you are pro-democracy. He was democratically elected (even if only because of an outd... | I don't even know where to start with this one. I hope that you are able to get something out of this thread because it is an out there view. I would be interested to see some evidence for some of the claims you made. Like about Trump sending SWAT teams with the intent purpose of murdering exclusivly African American c... | kljork | CMV: Voting for/Supporting Donald Trump should be considered accessory to murder and be punished as such. | Update: My view has successfully been changed. I will be slowing replies and only finish started conversations and not begin new ones as I need to work towards going to bed. The beliefs I made this post to change have been changed, and I now understand there's a whole other side to this. It's pointless to try and make... | 2-Gay-Fox | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: UK Progressives cannot justify voting for Keir Starmer's Labour
I'm a progressive from the UK. In 2024 I voted tactically for Labour. They weren't my first choice party, but I recognise that the UK's First Past the Post system means that sometimes you have to vote for the best viable option, rather than your favo... | Depends on what you hope to achieve by voting. Unfortunately, FPTP means that you must sometimes vote for something you dislike to avoid something you hate.
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I'll re-post my reply elsewhere :)
This was the main reason I voted Labour in 2024. I find it unconvincing at present for three reasons:
(1) It's not obv... | There’s no point being a ‘progressive’ who achieves no progression. Who in fact, due self defined ‘moral purity’, allows regression.
In the UK at the moment a far right party, Reform, threatens to take power. Failing to support the centre left option, Starmer’s Labour - which has inherited an almighty shit show from ... | 1luk787 | CMV: UK Progressives cannot justify voting for Keir Starmer's Labour | I'm a progressive from the UK. In 2024 I voted tactically for Labour. They weren't my first choice party, but I recognise that the UK's First Past the Post system means that sometimes you have to vote for the best viable option, rather than your favourite.
But for Labour to keep my vote, they do have to give progressi... | Throwaway7131923 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: the casual use of the term “female” for women is not misogynistic and is the linguistic counterpart of the term “guy” for men.
More and more I’m seeing women complain about people referring to them as “females” and their reasoning boils down to believing it reduces them down to their sexual organs, and also that ... | The linguistic counterpart for the term "guy" is gal. The linguistic counterpart for female is "male."
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This is prescriptively speaking not descriptively. No one says gal.
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I agree with this. No one says gal, and if they do, it’s corny. ‘Females’ is also corny. I think you gotta ride the line between girls o... | Female is even more sterile and formal than lady lmao
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It must be a cultural thing growing up men and women around me used it alike i never knew it was a problem till the internet started saying it a couple years ago
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So where'd you grow up then? Because it sounds like an odd place. | 1nc3lm9 | CMV: the casual use of the term “female” for women is not misogynistic and is the linguistic counterpart of the term “guy” for men. | More and more I’m seeing women complain about people referring to them as “females” and their reasoning boils down to believing it reduces them down to their sexual organs, and also that the term “male” isn’t used in the same way.
A simple question I’ve never had answered is what do they want to be called instead? Yo... | nayrad | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It is misleading and misguided to frame the abortion debate as a fight for women’s bodily autonomy because the debate rests solely on the question of the humanity of the fetus.
I believe that the abortion debate should, logically, be exclusively concerned with the question of the humanity of the fetus. I am conf... | So, philosopher Judith Jarvis Thompson actually wrote a really interesting defense of why bodily autonomy still matter even if a fetus is a person. She gives this interesting example of being hooked-up to a violinist: "It sounds plausible. But now let me ask you to imagine this. You wake up in the morning and find your... | > This makes no sense to me. In this exchange, the pro-choicer has not refuted the claim that the fetus is a human life, which is the root of the argument. Are they suggesting that even if the fetus is an actual human life, the woman’s bodily autonomy trumps it? Doesn’t this belief have some serious moral implications,... | 8xr9sm | CMV: It is misleading and misguided to frame the abortion debate as a fight for women’s bodily autonomy because the debate rests solely on the question of the humanity of the fetus. | I believe that the abortion debate should, logically, be exclusively concerned with the question of the humanity of the fetus. I am confused as to why women’s rights or bodily autonomy comes into play.
If it is true that the fetus growing inside a pregnant woman is an actual, human life, then declaring “her body, h... | riverdanced | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Bisexuals are super straights of the sexual orientation spectrum
The difference between bisexuals and pansexual seems to literally only be that bisexuals won’t date transgender people. If bisexual means that you like male and female. Pansexual means you don’t care, male, female, fluid, transgender. Then how are B... | I am a bisexual woman, and I would date transgender and non-binary people. Bisexual just means two OR MORE. Some bisexuals would not date trans or nb people, many do. Bisexuality has a long history of being defined this way, pansexuality is an extremely new and widely rejected term by bisexuals that insinuates our sexu... | Bisexual means that you are attracted to 2+ genders.
Pansexual means you are attracted to someone *regardless* of gender.
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What?
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Basically, gender doesn’t play a role for pansexual people they attracted to people for who they are.
Bisexual also doesn’t have to be just cisgendered males and females. It ca... | m9l1sl | CMV: Bisexuals are super straights of the sexual orientation spectrum | The difference between bisexuals and pansexual seems to literally only be that bisexuals won’t date transgender people. If bisexual means that you like male and female. Pansexual means you don’t care, male, female, fluid, transgender. Then how are Bisexuals not just the gay version of a super straight?
If this isn’t ... | tulip_problems | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: We sholdn‘t try to integrate refugees
The whole idea behind nations giving refuge to citicens of other countries is, that they can live here in peace until the imediate danger in their country of origin is gone.
With the endgoal of sending them back, would it make no sense to teach them the new language etc.
In... | 1. “Special refugee villages” sounds a bit like camps.
2. If it’s generally true that refugees are coming from countries that are authoritarian, undemocratic, violent, unequal, stomp on human or civil rights, and/or target particular groups or minorities... then what could be better for eventually sending them back to... | What if the refugee decides they would like to legally live in America, rather than return to their home country ?
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Who says it's US-America? Refugees are quite the thing in Europe too
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Okay. What if they want to remain in their host country ? You wouldn't think integration and assimilation would aid both peo... | bjugda | CMV: We sholdn‘t try to integrate refugees | The whole idea behind nations giving refuge to citicens of other countries is, that they can live here in peace until the imediate danger in their country of origin is gone.
With the endgoal of sending them back, would it make no sense to teach them the new language etc.
In my opinion should refugees live in special ... | 562949832a1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Penalties for rape are too harsh
I’m pretty sure this is a very unpopular opinion but hear me out before telling me how terrible of a person I am. I’m not saying it’s not terrible. People should still get years in prison. But penalties for rape are on the same level as murder in most states. Unfortunately this ca... | > most rape cases are he said/she said.
This is [a common myth](https://time.com/5413814/he-said-she-said-kavanaugh-ford-mitchell/). A few rape cases may come down to testimony, but most are thoroughly investigated and use DNA evidence.
If it is a "he said/she said" case, it very very rarely will make it to trial be... | They're really not, given that the vast majority of rapists are never convicted
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Well this is a shit argument if ever there was one. Last time I checked it was "until proven guilty", and you can hardly punish people on average like, "well, since about 80% of rapists never get convicted we'll just make it right by ... | 1cb30m6 | CMV: Penalties for rape are too harsh | I’m pretty sure this is a very unpopular opinion but hear me out before telling me how terrible of a person I am. I’m not saying it’s not terrible. People should still get years in prison. But penalties for rape are on the same level as murder in most states. Unfortunately this causes many I’d say most rapists to get n... | Greatfumbler | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The only universal truth that binds all humans (that have ever lived, are currently living, or will ever live) is death.
That each and every one of us will certainly die is the sole source of universal understanding and empathy. This knowledge should make us more empathetic and compassionate to our fellow humans,... | >That each and every one of us will certainly die is the sole source of universal understanding and empathy
That's an assumption. The ability to suffer is a fine justification for empathy, without invoking any religious or spiritual justifications.
​
> If we all keep in mind that we are sharing this planet f... | Also birth.
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No, but you experienced birth yourself. | wapdaq | CMV: The only universal truth that binds all humans (that have ever lived, are currently living, or will ever live) is death. | That each and every one of us will certainly die is the sole source of universal understanding and empathy. This knowledge should make us more empathetic and compassionate to our fellow humans, because death itself is such a lonely and shameful topic, yet we will all have to come to terms with it one day. There is so m... | thereisbeautyintruth | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Neural Nets are just hash algorithms
A hash algorithm takes an input and returns some value that is guaranteed to be "reasonably" unique for small values, but will eventually repeat over much larger inputs. This process has the advantage that if you go backwards there's no way to know what you started with (bec... | A hash function is any function that can be used to map data of arbitrary size to fixed-size values.
A neural network requires fixed sized input. I.E data must equal to the input layer.
A NN by definition is not a hash function.
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>A neural network requires fixed sized input.
This is not true. It is common for ... | Neural networks are designed to have "continuous" behavior. That is, small changes to the input are supposed to produce only small changes to the output.
This is a terrible property to have in a hash function.
A good hash function is supposed to produce a wildly different output even with just a small change to the ... | plzhpy | CMV: Neural Nets are just hash algorithms | A hash algorithm takes an input and returns some value that is guaranteed to be "reasonably" unique for small values, but will eventually repeat over much larger inputs. This process has the advantage that if you go backwards there's no way to know what you started with (because even if you database all responses you... | ChronoFish | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Neural Nets are just hash algorithms
A hash algorithm takes an input and returns some value that is guaranteed to be "reasonably" unique for small values, but will eventually repeat over much larger inputs. This process has the advantage that if you go backwards there's no way to know what you started with (bec... | > Show me where I'm wrong.
You're wrong in two ways. First, not all networks work this way. Second, "You don't need the NN anylonger - just a look up table" is trivial and doesn't mean what you think it does.
Let's talk about networks that operate completely differently. Recurrent networks and GANs.
A recurrent net... | Neural networks are designed to have "continuous" behavior. That is, small changes to the input are supposed to produce only small changes to the output.
This is a terrible property to have in a hash function.
A good hash function is supposed to produce a wildly different output even with just a small change to the ... | plzhpy | CMV: Neural Nets are just hash algorithms | A hash algorithm takes an input and returns some value that is guaranteed to be "reasonably" unique for small values, but will eventually repeat over much larger inputs. This process has the advantage that if you go backwards there's no way to know what you started with (because even if you database all responses you... | ChronoFish | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: There is no "lack of male role models" in society nowadays, at least not to a meaningful extent.
I shouldn't be frying my braincells on political posts on Reddit in the middle of the night, but here I am, neurons fried. All the time, and also ten minutes ago, I see this common take: Men are getting misogynistic a... | Usually when I hear people *on reddit* talk about lack of male role models its in relations to dating, starting a family, making friends, having healthy relationships and boundaries, self-respect, etc.
Does Bernie have a podcast telling guys how to ask women out? Does Tony Stark make a good husband/father when he's a ... | We need prominent figures from NOW that young men can relate to. Strong caring and kind men
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Strong, caring, and kind men from "Now" is definitely something I support! I am happy to find many examples, like some of my friends who are men who exist in society (and one of them has a podcast, even!). And as for examp... | 1iz7eh6 | CMV: There is no "lack of male role models" in society nowadays, at least not to a meaningful extent. | I shouldn't be frying my braincells on political posts on Reddit in the middle of the night, but here I am, neurons fried. All the time, and also ten minutes ago, I see this common take: Men are getting misogynistic and turning to Andrew Tate because they lack "male role models."
What?
I sincerely do not understand. ... | greengrassonthisside | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Ostracization of bigots is better than giving bigots a platform
So I would like to think that most sensible and reasonable people find discrimination to be abhorrent, so I'm open to having my view changed if we agree on the goal but just differ on how to get there. For me, I feel like, just like bullies, the best... | That only works if you're 100% sure that your moral judgement is perfect. No, the answer to bad speech is more, better speech. It's the marketplace of ideas and you need to defend the expression of ideas you find loathsome.
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To answer your question and clarify my stance,
I feel like advocacy for restrictions of freedoms for marginalized groups should be treated like ... | on3jq9 | CMV: Ostracization of bigots is better than giving bigots a platform | So I would like to think that most sensible and reasonable people find discrimination to be abhorrent, so I'm open to having my view changed if we agree on the goal but just differ on how to get there. For me, I feel like, just like bullies, the best thing that we can do as a society is to not engage with racists / peo... | newleafsauce | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: investing yourself using the robinhood app is the best approach to investing and beats out using a broker/ financial advisor / traditional means of investing even if you are investing millions
people keep saying that robinhood investing is fine if you only put in a really small amount of money just to kind of see... | You're ignoring the relatively safe option of index fund investing vs. learning how to individually pick stocks. They are low cost, low maintenance, and over a long term basis earn 6-7% a year.
Investing by picking individual stocks almost never works, at least according to the statistics. You're better off investing... | How does Robinhood make money? Can you invest yourself without using Robinhood where you pay less fees?
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robinhood makes their money off of the interest on your money. say you put $100 into your account and only invest $90 of it. robinhood makes interest off of the $10 you didn't invest yet. they charge nothing wh... | fvmlix | CMV: investing yourself using the robinhood app is the best approach to investing and beats out using a broker/ financial advisor / traditional means of investing even if you are investing millions | people keep saying that robinhood investing is fine if you only put in a really small amount of money just to kind of see how the market works and play around with investing but to not actually put any real money on the app bc it would be better to go with a traditional form of investing like through a broker. that is ... | blckpplwrstppl | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: 4Chan is Shite
I've never used 4Chan and from the little things I've seen from there over the years, I never will.
From my understanding, 4Chan is the place for the undesirable anomalies of society to group together anonymously, mock the socially successful (or even unsuccessful), make jokes nobody finds funny f... | You're describing /b/ and /pol/. Like Reddit has subreddits, 4chan have boards segregated by interests.
The /b/(Random) and /pol/(Politically Incorrect) are indeed full of "wannabe nazi edgelords". That's why in 4chan slang, they are called "containement boards". Also they are full of trolls trolling other trolls. I p... | You are describing /pol/ and /b/ in your post, not the whole website.
/po/ is probably the best origami discussion website on the internet, and /o/ is a really interesting and helpful group about cars.
Also, "jokes nobody finds funny" is objectively wrong. A huge percentage of the most popular and influential memes... | 6egpl0 | CMV: 4Chan is Shite | I've never used 4Chan and from the little things I've seen from there over the years, I never will.
From my understanding, 4Chan is the place for the undesirable anomalies of society to group together anonymously, mock the socially successful (or even unsuccessful), make jokes nobody finds funny for the sake of having... | thekingsbishop | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: 4Chan is Shite
I've never used 4Chan and from the little things I've seen from there over the years, I never will.
From my understanding, 4Chan is the place for the undesirable anomalies of society to group together anonymously, mock the socially successful (or even unsuccessful), make jokes nobody finds funny f... | You're describing /b/ and /pol/. Like Reddit has subreddits, 4chan have boards segregated by interests.
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/po/ is probably the best origami discussion website on the internet, and /o/ is a really interesting and helpful group about cars.
Also, "jokes nobody finds funny" is objectively wrong. A huge percentage of the most popular and influential memes... | 6egpl0 | CMV: 4Chan is Shite | I've never used 4Chan and from the little things I've seen from there over the years, I never will.
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CMV: There is nothing good about the republican party falling apart, even if you are a staunch democrat. If there will be no republican party there will be no democracy.
It is evident to me that the Republican party is falling apart for various reasons which are not the subject of this CMV. Democrats like to make fun ... | Another party will take their place. Hopefully one that is not as sociopathic.
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How would that happen? There is very little faith in independent runners. It is a two party system and it isn't obvious how a change will happen.
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Because the fall of a major party isn’t something that can happen overnight. If do... | The real question here, and one I don't know, is *why* the Republican party is "falling apart". Why have they moved so far right? Why are they so thirsty for the voters Trump brought into the fold that they've sold their souls to him? Why do they want so badly to restrict voting rights?
Well, it would seem at last at ... | m96ueh | CMV: There is nothing good about the republican party falling apart, even if you are a staunch democrat. If there will be no republican party there will be no democracy. | It is evident to me that the Republican party is falling apart for various reasons which are not the subject of this CMV. Democrats like to make fun at QAnon believers, Ted Cruzs, and insurrection supporters as if the goal is to defeat the republican party.
The problem is, if there is no viable republican party there ... | obesetial | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Society would be better off if we just didn’t have sex
I think we’d be healthier overall, as a society, if we collectively chose celibacy. This is because we’d eliminate the risk of unwanted and teen pregnancies, as well as the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Public health would be overall improved.
Ano... | Sex is a natural function of the human body. The majority of us have sexual urges and enjoy having sex.
Trying to subvert sex/sexual urges would create lots of repression and possibly increase the occurrence of rape, molestations, etc.
Just how would that be healthy for society?
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If people didn’t have sex and ... | How do we perpetuate the species?
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We can worry about that later. There’s 8 billion of us; it’ll take ages for that to run out. Maybe scientists will be able to work on radically extending human life now that they aren’t busy having sex
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>it’ll take ages for that to run out
It'll take about 50 years before ... | 1nbxrrj | CMV: Society would be better off if we just didn’t have sex | I think we’d be healthier overall, as a society, if we collectively chose celibacy. This is because we’d eliminate the risk of unwanted and teen pregnancies, as well as the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Public health would be overall improved.
Another thing would be that divorces would no longer happen beca... | Immediate-River-874 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Having a bachelor's in X doesn't entitle you to call yourself X
This may not be the case outside of the US, but BA/BS degree curricula very rarely touch on recent topics in most areas, and generally do not involve a serious research component. I don't know how many linkedin profiles and personal sites I've seen ... | Odd gatekeeping aside, what should you call someone who's spent about 4 years studying economics or CS (which I'd like to add is way more than the average person, I know I haven't taken a single class in either) instead? Do they need to get a master's in order to call themselves one? When do they cross the line in orde... | No dude, if you got a Bs in engineering, and you get your first job, than you are a junior engineer.
You call yourself based on your occupation. If you seek to work as a computer scientist, and you got a bachelor's in CS, and you get a job as a Computer scientist, you are a computer scientist.
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> No dude, if you g... | fw0l5j | CMV: Having a bachelor's in X doesn't entitle you to call yourself X | This may not be the case outside of the US, but BA/BS degree curricula very rarely touch on recent topics in most areas, and generally do not involve a serious research component. I don't know how many linkedin profiles and personal sites I've seen where people with a BS in CS call themselves "computer scientists", Tw... | [deleted] | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Most if not Christian views on suffering are morally repugnant
Note this view is not a criticism on Christianity but on Christians adsI myself am a Christian. My problem is that Christians typically have extremely strict views on things like suicide and similar nature, even compared to other religious, spiritual,... | Well the actual answer is that when you spend your time preaching to the suffering masses that after death there's a paradise free of suffering where you live in peace forever, you need to put in an asterisk about suicide lest they rush to get to heaven
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And if heaven is real why not let people escape when they wa... | Suffering is sometimes inescapable so long as you live, but if you are no longer alive, things can never get better. Since Thomas Aquinas, stoic teachings have been integral to Catholic-descended Christian faiths.
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CMV: Architecural design of a building should be chiefly decided by the area's inhabitants
Architecture may not seem that important in the grand scheme of things and a lot of architects see it as entirely their prerogative, not to be muddled by the majority's opinion. This type of argument against notions of democracy... | In general, the best building is the one that doesn't fall over. The public is utterly ignorant as far as determining which buildings will stand, and which will fall. At least to this extent, the public leans on the architects expertise.
Also, buildings tend to be built on a budget. Even if the public thinks it might... | Architectural decisions aren’t usually made with potential tourism in mind. Instead it’s based on economics. Beautiful buildings cost more. While some builders have the luxury of choosing beautiful designs, most are constrained by minimal budgets. Brutalist buildings are cheap. How do you suggest architects overcome th... | c5y8qc | CMV: Architecural design of a building should be chiefly decided by the area's inhabitants | Architecture may not seem that important in the grand scheme of things and a lot of architects see it as entirely their prerogative, not to be muddled by the majority's opinion. This type of argument against notions of democracy is lamented by the famous architect Peter Eisenman where he states that the principle of ar... | toxicur1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The only people who should memorialize 9/11 are the families of the people who died.
Everyone else, especially the media and politicians, should stay as far away from it as possible. It was not a "national tragedy", it was a personal tragedy for these people and then it was turned into an "attack" or an “act of ... | > It was not a "national tragedy"
The fuck it wasn't. You have no idea how many people are effected by a random act of senseless violence, even on a small scale. Just because your personal friends or family didn't die doesn't mean you can't empathize with those who did, or imagine what would happen if the same were to... | We're gatekeeping being able to memorialize things now?
You put too much focus on the event itself and the people who were directly affected. Plenty of people were indirectly affected by those who were directly affected, who in turn indirectly affected other people, who indirectly affected even more people, and so on.... | plrn8u | CMV: The only people who should memorialize 9/11 are the families of the people who died. | Everyone else, especially the media and politicians, should stay as far away from it as possible. It was not a "national tragedy", it was a personal tragedy for these people and then it was turned into an "attack" or an “act of war” to justify war and death. That was a mistake, and we should work to never make that m... | oldeenglishdry12345 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Colleges are becoming more and more of a disgusting pyramid scheme.
EDIT: ASIA is a big geographical factor, as I've realised from conversations in the comments, for any validity to this view.
Who am I? Final year STEM field dual degree undergrad at a supposedly prestigious university in a highly populated Asian... | [deleted]
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For the niche courses, it effectively is a pyramid scheme, because the only employment opportunities for people with degrees in those courses end up being teaching those courses. Of course, if they actually end up using those degrees for gaining employment
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Are you suggesting that the *pitch* of co... | >a life upgrade, which will never come.
What do you mean by this? College education is [known to correlate strongly with](https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2020/data-on-display/education-pays.htm) income, at least in the US. Are you saying that it doesn't in your country? Or are you saying that college students expect... | plpuew | CMV: Colleges are becoming more and more of a disgusting pyramid scheme. | EDIT: ASIA is a big geographical factor, as I've realised from conversations in the comments, for any validity to this view.
Who am I? Final year STEM field dual degree undergrad at a supposedly prestigious university in a highly populated Asian country.
Colleges and their ever growing offerings of niche and useless ... | strmclk | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Colleges are becoming more and more of a disgusting pyramid scheme.
EDIT: ASIA is a big geographical factor, as I've realised from conversations in the comments, for any validity to this view.
Who am I? Final year STEM field dual degree undergrad at a supposedly prestigious university in a highly populated Asian... | College is no longer about the quality of the education. Intro to chemistry, calculus, Econ, physics, etc…. Those are all the same material and any decent prof will teach the material.
Collage is about labels and branding for yourself. As a young person, you want to position yourself in an advantageous spot out o... | [deleted]
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This is where he briefly gets into it:
>Most areas/departments are too niche to ever be useful for self-enrichment or the progress of society unless you study it furthermore and become an expert (kind of) on the topic, so that you can teach it to more clueless kids and fuck the lives of students who do... | plpuew | CMV: Colleges are becoming more and more of a disgusting pyramid scheme. | EDIT: ASIA is a big geographical factor, as I've realised from conversations in the comments, for any validity to this view.
Who am I? Final year STEM field dual degree undergrad at a supposedly prestigious university in a highly populated Asian country.
Colleges and their ever growing offerings of niche and useless ... | strmclk | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Colleges are becoming more and more of a disgusting pyramid scheme.
EDIT: ASIA is a big geographical factor, as I've realised from conversations in the comments, for any validity to this view.
Who am I? Final year STEM field dual degree undergrad at a supposedly prestigious university in a highly populated Asian... | [deleted]
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This is where he briefly gets into it:
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I've done all that, good sir, and when all said and done, I still think it is a pyramid scheme.
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Consider the possibility that the disillusionment has come after getting a job and realizing it wasn't worth it?
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You clearly didn't take the time to browse this thr... | plpuew | CMV: Colleges are becoming more and more of a disgusting pyramid scheme. | EDIT: ASIA is a big geographical factor, as I've realised from conversations in the comments, for any validity to this view.
Who am I? Final year STEM field dual degree undergrad at a supposedly prestigious university in a highly populated Asian country.
Colleges and their ever growing offerings of niche and useless ... | strmclk | 12 | 12 | [
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CMV: The dangers of hookup culture are not talked about enough
I understand purity culture isn’t great either as it promotes essentially shaming women for their sexuality and reinforces harmful double standards for men and women e.g men are keys women are locks. Even though I do believe waiting till marriage or atleas... | Is the issue hookup culture?
Or is the issue peer pressure, as with anything? I don't see what's especially unique about any hookup behaviour or culture - but social pressure can be a problem whether it's about hooking up or smoking a cigarette or owning a car.
What's the exact view you want to have? Is it about h... | I want to push back on the idea that it's not being talked about enough.
How i see it, hookup culture is the result of years of purity being romanticised and often forced onto people through societal pressure. It's simply put, the pendulum swinging the other way. Now i think you're correct that this isn't good for soc... | 1kgvxye | CMV: The dangers of hookup culture are not talked about enough | I understand purity culture isn’t great either as it promotes essentially shaming women for their sexuality and reinforces harmful double standards for men and women e.g men are keys women are locks. Even though I do believe waiting till marriage or atleast a relationship where there is a future is ideal. purtiy cultur... | ComprehensivePipe448 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: it is entirely acceptable to discriminate on grounds of ideology.
In another CMV i was discussing with someone about the difference between discriminating against a racist and a homosexual, their point was that both were examples of discriminating against behaviours that people don't like, my retort was that one ... | You need to differentiate between behavior and ideology. Someone can be racist and not express their behavior in terms of discrimination; any writings that they may hold and currently believe still falls under the latter category.
We allow for firing people who exhibit behavior because of the harm to others. We don't... | >if it's OK to discriminate against a racist and racism is an ideology should it be OK to discriminate against any ideology?
Well, religion is an ideology, and it's illegal in the US to discriminate based on religion. Perhaps it's ok as long as they're not a protected class.
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The religious aspect did cross my min... | c65nhl | CMV: it is entirely acceptable to discriminate on grounds of ideology. | In another CMV i was discussing with someone about the difference between discriminating against a racist and a homosexual, their point was that both were examples of discriminating against behaviours that people don't like, my retort was that one was an ideology and the other was a state of being and weren't comparabl... | Subtleiaint | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Ghost don't exist because if they did they would have been Heavily Militarized and Capitalised.
Militaries worldwide relentlessly pursue any strategic edge. In the speculative realm, if ghosts were real (i.e) tangible, controllable, deployable then one would imagine militaries would capitalize on such an edge wit... | Black holes don't exist because if they did they would have been heavily militarized and capitalized.
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Are you telling me you have a black hole Inside your house?
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The point that they (and everyone) are making is that A) this thing exists in some way, shape, or form doesn't mean that B) the military has the c... | If you lived in the 1918, at the end of World War 1 - would you be correct in saying that nuclear energy doesn't exist because it hasn't been militarized?
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Are you saying ghosts weren't invented until recently?
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Are you saying we invented nuclear energy? Because I think we discovered it. | 1nbnidp | CMV: Ghost don't exist because if they did they would have been Heavily Militarized and Capitalised. | Militaries worldwide relentlessly pursue any strategic edge. In the speculative realm, if ghosts were real (i.e) tangible, controllable, deployable then one would imagine militaries would capitalize on such an edge with their usual expediency. Therefore, the absence of ghost-based troops or even speculated-based PCTs o... | Melodic_Judge_129 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Historical shows casting should focus on being accurate not diversity
There is many examples of Netflix doing this but in this instance am talking about the show Bridgerton. Where the show is based on the elite class romance around the Victorian era Britain.
As a history vivid reader what am witnessing is a nai... | What's really interesting is that when you start looking, there are examples of POC throughout so-called white history and society. Not to the extent of Bridgerton of course, but they existed.
Dido Belle was born a slave and raised free in England by her father's family.
[Belle Dido](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D... | People are constantly making exemptions for historical accuracy in the media they consume. Sometimes it's fashion or hygiene that is changed to let the audience not find the characters weird or disgusting. Sometimes it's in completely whitewashing every negative thing a "beloved" hero did (I guess Covid delayed product... | kkwq7i | CMV: Historical shows casting should focus on being accurate not diversity | There is many examples of Netflix doing this but in this instance am talking about the show Bridgerton. Where the show is based on the elite class romance around the Victorian era Britain.
As a history vivid reader what am witnessing is a naive attempt to eradicate facts and brainwash new generation that diversity ex... | gilgamesh_99 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: George Washington kinda sucked as a person.
So obviously in America we have been brought up on an extremely heroic portrait of George Washington. But I have been kinda dabbling in history of the era and I am coming to think he sucked. My reasons:
1. **The Seven Years War.** Dude started a *world war* out of ... | 1. What negligence? Everything I have read doesn't confirm the circumstance of the death of the leader of that French scouting party. I believe that it's not been settled today as to what those circumstances were.
2. What makes you take this assumption?
3. Do you think it's rational to compare someone born in 1732 wi... | Literally judging anyone from the past by today's standards would make them an asshole. They were products of their time as we are of ours.
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I don't think I've said anything here that would be morally different in the 1700s? Washington said slavery was morally bad. He had the power to free his slaves (unlike oth... | mh6pat | CMV: George Washington kinda sucked as a person. | So obviously in America we have been brought up on an extremely heroic portrait of George Washington. But I have been kinda dabbling in history of the era and I am coming to think he sucked. My reasons:
1. **The Seven Years War.** Dude started a *world war* out of negligence. And why was he negligently leading hi... | huadpe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Basic computer programming should be taught in primary education.
With the increasing reliance on technology and computer-based daily activities, primary schools should incorporate some sort of programming into the standard curriculum. I understand that not everyone is supposed to be a programmer, but the logic ... | In addition to the current curriculum? What would it be replacing?
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In theory, schools wouldn't opt out of other subjects, but use programming to supplement their current curriculum. For instance, most schools have some sort of computer class. When I was in grade/middle school, we had a typing class that also inv... | Seeking clarification- Do you mean that all students should be required to learn computer programming or that it should be an available option to students as a form of STEM portions of the curriculum?
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At young ages, I believe that all students should be exposed to computer programming, having it woven into the ac... | 6enzpc | CMV: Basic computer programming should be taught in primary education. | With the increasing reliance on technology and computer-based daily activities, primary schools should incorporate some sort of programming into the standard curriculum. I understand that not everyone is supposed to be a programmer, but the logic and reasoning skills developed from learning basic programming skills he... | gsloup20 | 3 | 3 | [
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With the increasing reliance on technology and computer-based daily activities, primary schools should incorporate some sort of programming into the standard curriculum. I understand that not everyone is supposed to be a programmer, but the logic ... | >but the logic and reasoning skills developed from learning basic programming skills helps to supplement other areas of learning.
This would seem to already be covered by math; what does computer programming offer in terms of developing logic and reasoning skills that math doesn't?
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In theory, schools wouldn't opt out of other subjects, but use programming to supplement their current curriculum. For instance, most schools have some sort of computer class. When I was in grade/middle school, we had a typing class that also inv... | 6enzpc | CMV: Basic computer programming should be taught in primary education. | With the increasing reliance on technology and computer-based daily activities, primary schools should incorporate some sort of programming into the standard curriculum. I understand that not everyone is supposed to be a programmer, but the logic and reasoning skills developed from learning basic programming skills he... | gsloup20 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Democratic politicians and interest groups and ignoring and falsifying the science around COVID policy to advance their political agendas
(1) On reopening of schools, many Democratic politicians and teachers' unions have called for continuing shutdowns, contrary to the consensus of infectious disease experts that... | No political agenda wants schools to be closed.
Also, when you look to actual evidence, places that had a full lockdown like New Zealand where everyone stayed home and the government did their job, the virus pretty much disappeared.
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many schools are still closed despite lack of any evidence of dangerous spread. ... | All of your links pertain to the Democrats. What specific interest groups are you talking about in your title that benefit from these lockdowns?
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i’m referring to teacher unions for one
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Teachers unions want teachers to be safe from COVID before returning to work? Shocker, there. | m97a38 | CMV: Democratic politicians and interest groups and ignoring and falsifying the science around COVID policy to advance their political agendas | (1) On reopening of schools, many Democratic politicians and teachers' unions have called for continuing shutdowns, contrary to the consensus of infectious disease experts that school, especially for young children, are safe. [https://www.vox.com/2021/2/15/22280763/kids-covid-vaccine-teachers-unions-schools-reopening-c... | thisdamnhoneybadger | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Posting suicide hotline information is essentially just a different form of "thoughts and prayers".
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Basically, the reasoning is:
If you're not going to commit suicide tonight, while you're right on the edge, the odds of you doing it tomorrow drop off almost completely. These operators have been given time-tested... | 8axfds | CMV: Posting suicide hotline information is essentially just a different form of "thoughts and prayers". | People online, and certainly on reddit, love to both post and upvote reams of suicide hotlines around the world in response to notable or newsworthy suicides. My feeling is that this is a naive and misguided response with no value. It allows the people posting and upvoting to placate themselves by saying "Phew, at lea... | Phallic | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Most Jordan Peterson criticism is based on misinterpreting and/or misunderstanding him
I have seen hundreds of redditors post criticism about Peterson, claiming he is anti-LGBTQ, against women, etcetera. I believe these propositions are factually wrong. I see how you can easily make a sleight-of-hand and purposef... | I think it would be helpful to know what level of evidence would convince you that Peterson holds sexist opinions?
He is admittedly a traditional family values Christian. I haven’t paid attention to anything he has said in years, but up until that point he had openly stated numerous obviously sexist quotes. Obvious t... | Jordan Peterson is the kind of person who would not have his audience if he didn’t say the kinds of things that can easily be interpreted/misinterpreted as chauvinist. **(Mis)interpreting Peterson is a feature, not a bug**.
He’s well summarized by the Chomsky quote:
> I’m sure you believe everything you’re saying. B... | kl5i7p | CMV: Most Jordan Peterson criticism is based on misinterpreting and/or misunderstanding him | I have seen hundreds of redditors post criticism about Peterson, claiming he is anti-LGBTQ, against women, etcetera. I believe these propositions are factually wrong. I see how you can easily make a sleight-of-hand and purposefully paint him out as those things, but I have not yet seen one such argument/insult based on... | BinBonBanBen | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Most Jordan Peterson criticism is based on misinterpreting and/or misunderstanding him
I have seen hundreds of redditors post criticism about Peterson, claiming he is anti-LGBTQ, against women, etcetera. I believe these propositions are factually wrong. I see how you can easily make a sleight-of-hand and purposef... | Jordan Peterson is the kind of person who would not have his audience if he didn’t say the kinds of things that can easily be interpreted/misinterpreted as chauvinist. **(Mis)interpreting Peterson is a feature, not a bug**.
He’s well summarized by the Chomsky quote:
> I’m sure you believe everything you’re saying. B... | I think it would be helpful to know what level of evidence would convince you that Peterson holds sexist opinions?
He is admittedly a traditional family values Christian. I haven’t paid attention to anything he has said in years, but up until that point he had openly stated numerous obviously sexist quotes. Obvious t... | kl5i7p | CMV: Most Jordan Peterson criticism is based on misinterpreting and/or misunderstanding him | I have seen hundreds of redditors post criticism about Peterson, claiming he is anti-LGBTQ, against women, etcetera. I believe these propositions are factually wrong. I see how you can easily make a sleight-of-hand and purposefully paint him out as those things, but I have not yet seen one such argument/insult based on... | BinBonBanBen | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Privilege theory fails in practice because a person's upbringing has a larger impact on their life than their identity.
For the purposes of this post, I'm going to use [Wikipedia's definition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_(social_inequality)) of privilege, which it refers to as "a social theory that sp... | You're saying the concept of privilege is real, and individuals are clearly affected by it, but we should disregard it because you cant ever tell how one individual was specifically affected?
We shouldn't try to fix the inequities because *some* members of the privileged group haven't experienced *all* the benefits of... | > As a white, heterosexual, Catholic male, I will probably never be threatened in public because of my race, sexual orientation, or religion. I also will probably never face any sort of discrimination in the workplace. So from that perspective, sure, I'm "privileged."
What is "privilege theory" if not this type of thi... | 6em3xe | CMV: Privilege theory fails in practice because a person's upbringing has a larger impact on their life than their identity. | For the purposes of this post, I'm going to use [Wikipedia's definition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_(social_inequality)) of privilege, which it refers to as "a social theory that special rights or advantages are available only to a particular person or group of people. The term is commonly used in the cont... | mattman119 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no such thing as an unexpected/unwanted pregnancy
Edit: Let me rephrase, there is no such thing as an unexpected pregnancy when using forms of birth control inappropriately or none at all. Nothing is perfect and will always have a failure rate, if you choose to use any from of birth control. I understand... | Birth control can fail. You admit that. So even if it is a very small percentage of a chance the fact that it fails means it can be a surprise to those who think it is working. That means that it is unexpected.
As for being unwanted. Even if you have sex without any protection you can not want to be pregnant and choo... | This is like saying there's no such thing as an unexpected/unwanted car accident. If you're in a car traveling the speed limit, and there is someone else in a car traveling the speed limit there's a chance one of you will come into contact with the other.
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There are plenty of things people can do to reduce t... | bjkvc9 | CMV: There is no such thing as an unexpected/unwanted pregnancy | Edit: Let me rephrase, there is no such thing as an unexpected pregnancy when using forms of birth control inappropriately or none at all. Nothing is perfect and will always have a failure rate, if you choose to use any from of birth control. I understand this, as I also understand that there are situations, such as ra... | weasleyiskingg | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Scandinavian countries prove that lasting progress is achieved by stability and not revolution
It seems to me that countries which have undergone a series of revolutions (Russia, Argentina, and possibly France), seem to me to be less stable and modern in the present era than those which remained relatively co... | denmark = 1848 revolution. Norway split from sweden in a revolution, albeit without violence (but threat of it, and significant "unrest").
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Sure, but I mean if you need to go 200 years back to find an example, it's pretty much evidence that these are very stable societies right? I mean, I don't think they're a si... | [deleted]
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Apart from Sweden I think our number of immigrants and racial diversity is average on the world scale. Most countries consists primarily of one ethnic group, what a shock.
As a Dane I’m obligated to hate Sweden - but Sweden is still an incredibly stable and safe country when compared to most of the wo... | kl44k9 | CMV: The Scandinavian countries prove that lasting progress is achieved by stability and not revolution | It seems to me that countries which have undergone a series of revolutions (Russia, Argentina, and possibly France), seem to me to be less stable and modern in the present era than those which remained relatively conservative but avoided major conflicts and civil unrest such as Sweden and Switzerland. On the one hand, ... | elbeanodeldino | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: [NSFW] It is NOT gross to sanitize menstrual cups in a normal cooking pot
Menstruation happens. Some people find it gross, but I'm not here about that stigma. This is far more specific.
There have been several posts on communities like AITA about sanitizing menstrual cups, and how people are totally grossed out ... | You’re using the words “gross” and “unsanitary” interchangeably and they are not interchangeable.
Looking at the various definitions of gross, none of them reference what is actually sanitary. They’re about what is rude, vulgar, or repulsive. What is gross is entirely about manners or repugnance the same way I could ... | It's not necessarily about the hygienic part, it's mostly about the 'thought' of it. As someone else mentioned, the psychological part. It's personally not that I find it gross because it's unhygienic, I find it gross because I feel grossly (pun intended) disrespected to be eating from a pot which shared bodily fluids.... | fvxai4 | CMV: [NSFW] It is NOT gross to sanitize menstrual cups in a normal cooking pot | Menstruation happens. Some people find it gross, but I'm not here about that stigma. This is far more specific.
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CMV: [NSFW] It is NOT gross to sanitize menstrual cups in a normal cooking pot
Menstruation happens. Some people find it gross, but I'm not here about that stigma. This is far more specific.
There have been several posts on communities like AITA about sanitizing menstrual cups, and how people are totally grossed out ... | You’re using the words “gross” and “unsanitary” interchangeably and they are not interchangeable.
Looking at the various definitions of gross, none of them reference what is actually sanitary. They’re about what is rude, vulgar, or repulsive. What is gross is entirely about manners or repugnance the same way I could ... | It's not necessarily about the hygienic part, it's mostly about the 'thought' of it. As someone else mentioned, the psychological part. It's personally not that I find it gross because it's unhygienic, I find it gross because I feel grossly (pun intended) disrespected to be eating from a pot which shared bodily fluids.... | fvxai4 | CMV: [NSFW] It is NOT gross to sanitize menstrual cups in a normal cooking pot | Menstruation happens. Some people find it gross, but I'm not here about that stigma. This is far more specific.
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CMV: Abortion is not immoral.
Abortion is not immoral. It is a form of healthcare. It's not something to celebrate and we certainly shouldn't be proud of practicing such a procedure, but it should be accessible to all and legalized nation-wide. Bodily autonomy is a basic human right. We have the right to make decision... | As a clarifying question, why are you bringing your last point, the personhood marker, into the discussion when you haven't described any timelines in the rest of your post? Your CMV is that abortion is not immoral, but then you seem to imply in your last point that a mother only has 8 weeks, most or all of which she m... | Hot take: we shouldn't care about morality because it's made up nonsense
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Oldest, least spicy take in human history. Ancient.
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The "hot take" is here for obvious sarcasm. I'm tired of those bs posts about "x is moral, y isn't immoral". | 1kgk3d8 | CMV: Abortion is not immoral. | Abortion is not immoral. It is a form of healthcare. It's not something to celebrate and we certainly shouldn't be proud of practicing such a procedure, but it should be accessible to all and legalized nation-wide. Bodily autonomy is a basic human right. We have the right to make decisions about our own health and well... | Sweatyballs789 | 3 | 3 | [
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Cmv: media control is the right's sacred cow
I've noticed a trend. When you point out to a right winger that the media is obviously influenced the most by the right, they act like you just parked a UFO in their yard. As though it is beyond their imagination that anyone could ever even say such a thing. Is this a foun... | It is laughable that you think the media is controlled by the right. You think CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, AP, Washington Post, NPR, LA Times are controlled by the right?? What are you smoking?
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If you were given these outlets and your task was to maintain a leftward audience while getting a narrative that helps t... | Your entire argument falls apart when you realise that there’s only one mainstream media outlet that is right wing, which is FOX. All the rest are left.
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That’s ridiculous. Fox News is generally the most far-right, but the rest of the major news networks are clearly center-right or right-leaning. Just look at the ... | 1iy3qwp | Cmv: media control is the right's sacred cow |
I've noticed a trend. When you point out to a right winger that the media is obviously influenced the most by the right, they act like you just parked a UFO in their yard. As though it is beyond their imagination that anyone could ever even say such a thing. Is this a foundational belief of the right, upon which all o... | normalice0 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: American Cinema Will Not Spawn Another Director at the Level of Cultural Significance Achieved by Orson Welles, Hitchcock, Kubrick, or Spielberg
Cultural significance is a hard, blurry thing to define, I know, but I think it's reasonable to generalize here.
For various reasons, some of which I'll try to describe... | Quentin Tarantino
Pulp Fiction. The Hateful Eight. Reservoir Dogs.
Christopher Nolan
Memento, Inception.
Joel Coen
Fargo. No Country for Old Men.
Darren Aronofsky
Requiem for a Dream.
Guillermo del Toro.
Pan's Laberinth. Hellboy.
Robert Rodriguez.
Sin City.
All critically acclaimed films and directors. All extre... | I think that is a really hard claim to make. Part of what made those directors so memorable is that they discovered how to use the media of film in ways that people never thought of before. _Citizen Kane_ is often referred to as the greatest film ever made because it _invented_ so many filming techniques and tropes t... | 7c3444 | CMV: American Cinema Will Not Spawn Another Director at the Level of Cultural Significance Achieved by Orson Welles, Hitchcock, Kubrick, or Spielberg | Cultural significance is a hard, blurry thing to define, I know, but I think it's reasonable to generalize here.
For various reasons, some of which I'll try to describe and some of which fall in that whole 'known unknowns' category, I think American Cinema is done producing directors which can have the cultural impact... | TheVioletBarry | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Rogan is more informative than cable news
Rogan has his goofy bits, but when he brings in a guest to have an in depth conversation about currents or historical events I find that the quantity and quality of information is better than what one would get by watching cable news.
Cable news seems to oscillate betwee... | I like Joe Rogan, and certainly the pace and focus compares favorably to cable news, as you described. But he says, and affirms his guests saying, a ton of inaccurate things. Someone might learn more listening to JRE than cable news, but they’d also believe way more things that are actual false.
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Do you have some ... | Joe pretends very hard to be open minded and educated, in reality most of what he does is regurgitate whatever line from a guest he finds to be catchy.
Also it's ironic that you call cable news an echo chamber while supporting the dude who completely directs the conversation in whatever direction he wants.
For exampl... | m8vqaf | CMV: Rogan is more informative than cable news | Rogan has his goofy bits, but when he brings in a guest to have an in depth conversation about currents or historical events I find that the quantity and quality of information is better than what one would get by watching cable news.
Cable news seems to oscillate between a sensationalized echo chamber and a drunken a... | everdev | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: prisons aren't necessary
Locking people up in prison isn't necessary. In today's society it's very helpful for the government and powers that be to regulate, moralize, and punish the behavior of regular people, to treat drug addicts and desperate people as undesirable, rather than a symptom of social issues. But ... | I may have missed it, but how are you suggesting we deal with murders and other violent criminals? Let’s say someone who kills their parents for insurance money, how would you suggest they be punished?
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they have an extensive psychological evaluation, if they are deemed to be a serious threat to society, they shou... | Without prisons that means that those criminals that need to be removed from society such as rapists, child molesters, murderers, etc have to be executed immediately. There is no chance for appeal or challenging the conviction because the only way to remove them from society for societies protection is to kill them.
... | 8au8hg | CMV: prisons aren't necessary | Locking people up in prison isn't necessary. In today's society it's very helpful for the government and powers that be to regulate, moralize, and punish the behavior of regular people, to treat drug addicts and desperate people as undesirable, rather than a symptom of social issues. But for me prisons serve only to sc... | Trotlife | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Femboys are Aesthetic Evolutions of Chigo / Serving Slaves
(Super long history nerd rant post, lol @w@)
Hey, I just want to start a discussion with other people and fellow femboys. I like history, fashion; especially when these two mix into the fields of androgyny and third genders: and I want to see what other ... | Counterargument: some guys just like looking like pretty girls.
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True; but what culture are they taking from? Within Internet culture, you have femboys and sissies. Some people combine them, some people keep them separate. Both of these fall under “men looking like pretty girls” but sissies lack this Japanese insp... | Some groups of people have always been attracted to feminine looking boys/men, thats the core about the femboy, and idk much about the chiyo but i strongly doubt is the first word that was used for this kind of thing. So i would say maybe the ones inspired by japanese aesthetics might come from the chigo but in general... | 1nb9lha | CMV: Femboys are Aesthetic Evolutions of Chigo / Serving Slaves | (Super long history nerd rant post, lol @w@)
Hey, I just want to start a discussion with other people and fellow femboys. I like history, fashion; especially when these two mix into the fields of androgyny and third genders: and I want to see what other people think. Some of the stuff I want to talk about this the ste... | FrenchToastThrowacc | 9 | 5 | [
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CMV: It is not only acceptable but healthy to cut out emotionally abusive people from your life, even if they are close family members
There's a lot of discourse around whether or not it's right for people to 'divorce' or go 'no contact' with others if they feel those people have been emotionally abusive or even just ... | Always be alert to the possibility that you are the person who is emotionally abusive.
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Interesting viewpoint - I'm looking at this from the perspective of a teacher with students who face these challenges, rather than someone experiencing them, how does your point challenge my original statement?
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Removing ... | I saw the same thing when I was a teacher, and have family members like that.
It depends on the extent of the problem-if dad’s an alcoholic and beats the kid, the kid needs to leave and get to a safe place.
If (my childhood) mom is bipolar, highly unstable, and needy-then realize you’re the mature one in the relation... | 7mdvph | CMV: It is not only acceptable but healthy to cut out emotionally abusive people from your life, even if they are close family members | There's a lot of discourse around whether or not it's right for people to 'divorce' or go 'no contact' with others if they feel those people have been emotionally abusive or even just a toxic influence towards them. As a teacher, I have seen a number of students who are significantly screwed up by a member of their fam... | jcreek | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I shouldn’t have to respect your opinion if such opinion marginalizes a group of people
This thought came to me after a big controversy sprawled in my country following the appearance of the “free speech bus”. For those of you who are unaware of what that is, it’s an orange bus with frases like “boys are boys... ... | Your example of the freedom bus isn't necessarily wrong, but it only coincidentally supports your thread title because it happens to be an opinion not supported by (what you see as) underlying facts.
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CMV: I shouldn’t have to respect your opinion if such opinion marginalizes a group of people
This thought came to me after a big controversy sprawled in my country following the appearance of the “free speech bus”. For those of you who are unaware of what that is, it’s an orange bus with frases like “boys are boys... ... | Since you're talking about this from a moral perspective, I think the perspective one should have is that they never need to respect _opinions_, but they do need to respect people who have them.
Respect is fundamental in my mind, even when the people in question are lacking the same fundamental.
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CMV: Democrats and Republicans have pushed American politics to the right to benefit their billionaire donors
American politics has been shifting to the right in general since the election of Bill Clinton, but the coordinated effort of both parties to shift the center further and further right has accelerated rapidly ... | The gop is, but I'm not seeing any examples of Dems pushing right. You got Obama healthcare, equal pay acts, credit protections. You got Biden with the biggest ever trillion dollar infrastructure spending, $38 billion to pensions, massive antifraud and pro-green policies.
If you're a leftist, you might think "the dems... | Coordination implies conspiracy. Everything you state here is also consistent with people acting not with a calculated combined effort but in their own individual self-interest.
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-George Carlin
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CMV: r/conservative is full of cowards
**Edit 10:** stop upvoting this post lol. You made me lose my spot. Downvote like your life depends on it!!
**Edit 9:** no longer removed. Apologies to anyone bothered by any rule breaking. Also some formatting changes because this is getting unwieldy.
**Edit 5: I'm gonna go ah... | The purpose of r/Conservative is for conservative people to share conservative thoughts, ideas, and discussion - *not* for liberals and conservatives to argue or debate (which happens on most other political subs). Since the vast, vast majority of Reddit is liberal or left-leaning, if they didn't moderate who could pos... | Do you feel the same way about other subreddits that do the same thing, or the subreddits that will ban you even if you've never been to their subreddit based solely on the fact thar you have posted in ones they don't like or are you specifying conservative because you disagree with them?
Also do you differentiate any... | plcsto | CMV: r/conservative is full of cowards | **Edit 10:** stop upvoting this post lol. You made me lose my spot. Downvote like your life depends on it!!
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CMV: r/conservative is full of cowards
**Edit 10:** stop upvoting this post lol. You made me lose my spot. Downvote like your life depends on it!!
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**Edit 5: I'm gonna go ah... | [removed]
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I didn't say that. I have a lot of respect for classically conservative ideas, and many friends who are conservative (sometimes insanely so).
My thesis, ***en precis***, is that *they are cowards.*
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> My thesis, en precis, is that they are cowards.
The mods or the community as a whole? | What if the sub just isn't open to debate or alternative opinions? For example, if I went onto the pitbull subreddit and tried to argue that pitbulls are dangerous violent dogs, I would get banned. They are not really open to discussing it.
There are however, platforms and subreddits open to this.
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I feel like OP... | plcsto | CMV: r/conservative is full of cowards | **Edit 10:** stop upvoting this post lol. You made me lose my spot. Downvote like your life depends on it!!
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CMV: r/conservative is full of cowards
**Edit 10:** stop upvoting this post lol. You made me lose my spot. Downvote like your life depends on it!!
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**Edit 5: I'm gonna go ah... | [deleted]
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>Aw, I miss r/conservative. Before I got perma-banned, I had great convos there.
I DAG about downvotes, so I’d throw out a “this is the godless liberal POV. Let’s chat if you want to.”
I probably pissed off the majority of subscribers cuz they were looking for an echo chamber & I took the wind out o... | Would you agree that Reddit has a liberal majority? As in, generally speaking, liberal thoughts are more tolerated than conservative?
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I would say that the majority of the consumers in the "marketplace of ideas" on reddit skew liberal, yeah.
Would I say that makes them a monolith? No.
Would I say their majority ... | plcsto | CMV: r/conservative is full of cowards | **Edit 10:** stop upvoting this post lol. You made me lose my spot. Downvote like your life depends on it!!
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CMV: American work culture should adopt a more European approach.
To preface, I want to say that I want this culture for individual workers' work/life balance and happiness, not because it produces better quality products or anything like that.
1. **Work Hours** - It's no secret that Americans are overworked. Very fe... | >less benefits and rights than ever.
I don't want to be that guy, but come on.
We don't need hyperbole here, let's not just whitewash the history of labor in the United States. I don't see companies bringing in strike breakers to violently quell workers unions.
Things like the Triangle Shirt Company fire....
Thing... | As you say in the first sentence, your view here is centered only on worker happiness, and not the other side of the economic balance: The output.
If the only concern is making workers happy, then why stop at a 32 hour work week? Surely it would be better to just let everyone stay home all the time but still pay the... | 6en6p6 | CMV: American work culture should adopt a more European approach. | To preface, I want to say that I want this culture for individual workers' work/life balance and happiness, not because it produces better quality products or anything like that.
1. **Work Hours** - It's no secret that Americans are overworked. Very few Europeans work over 40 hours a week, and in some countries even l... | The3Broomsticks | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't need a rice cooker
I've used one before, many years ago. The same steps are required when it comes to rinsing and whatnot, the only extra step I'm aware of in a regular pot is needing to turn the heat to low once the water reaches a boil.
That's it, cooking rice without a rice cooker requires a singl... | It's the same reason you don't NEED a toaster or a kettle. It's far easier and more convenient to have one though as they are really good at performing a specific task. Same with the Rice Cooker.
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Need for what? To make toast? You can't make decent toast without a toaster.
Rice cookers aren't faster, if anyth... | A rice cooker being a specialised non stick container makes it easier to clean than a pot at a consistently lower price.
If it's overflowing that isn't the machines fault that's straight up user error on your side.
Rice cookers are easier as they require less attention and garuntee you don't burn food so if you meal ... | cpnxo5 | CMV: I don't need a rice cooker | I've used one before, many years ago. The same steps are required when it comes to rinsing and whatnot, the only extra step I'm aware of in a regular pot is needing to turn the heat to low once the water reaches a boil.
That's it, cooking rice without a rice cooker requires a single more step.
The dishes are easi... | geosmin | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The 'release' of the epstein list will be a nothing burger
I just posted this to the MMW sub. I do want to hear other opinions tho. Argument below
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To be concise, im stating the sex trafficking that runs on private islands, the blackmailing, and the dark institutions that this issue brus... | Here's the reason they're so scared, and the reason you might be wrong:
**Many of the names are obviously intelligence and law enforcement connected**. You will most definitely see Louis Freeh's name on the list, for example. Yes, 1990s FBI Director Louis Freeh.
What does that tell every halfway wised up American? I... | Let’s say for the sake of argument that every single one of your predictions come true. I would still argue that you might see a “me too” effect where it will deter this behavior in the future. In conjunction with the recent publicity around Diddy, it’s entirely possible that those in power will at least be deterred fr... | 1nbat2x | CMV: The 'release' of the epstein list will be a nothing burger | I just posted this to the MMW sub. I do want to hear other opinions tho. Argument below
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CMV: Ketogenic diets are healthy, and have profoundly positive impacts on health, if being a bit hard to maintain.
I used Keto to lose about 50lbs, my blood pressure improved, my concentration and mental energy improved, and my heart palpitations disappeared.
Now it's been years since that , I've eaten a lot of carbs... | I don't know a lot specifically about keto. But ultimately for any diet to be affective it comes down to calories in calories out. Meaning if you are trying to lose weight the calories you are consuming needs to be lower than what you are burning. For some people strict rules like keto or any other strict diet can be w... | Here is what i have learned from my experience and my dads experience with low carb diets. (back when i did it, it was called low carb, but i was still at about 30g of carbs a day)
The diet was very sustainable when i had nothing to do, ie the Summer, but when i tried to be on it during school i was exhausted all the ... | 6ehqu0 | CMV: Ketogenic diets are healthy, and have profoundly positive impacts on health, if being a bit hard to maintain. | I used Keto to lose about 50lbs, my blood pressure improved, my concentration and mental energy improved, and my heart palpitations disappeared.
Now it's been years since that , I've eaten a lot of carbs and my problems have returned. I haven't gained back all the weight, but most of it. But that's also because I've b... | Subhazard | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The Equal Rights Amendment would have many unforeseen consequences, and from the left's perspective, would actually be a bad thing.
Sex discrimination is already illegal, and sex is a protected class, but only under intermediate scrutiny. So there are three levels of scrutiny a government action typically faces.
... | You state that Race is under strict scrutiny while sex is only under immediate scrutiny and the amendment would bring it up to strict scrutiny, with this in mind. Why do you think that:
>So, women only shelters are out. Women's scholarships are out. Sex based affirmative action is (probably) out\*
Strict scrutiny did... | > that our society is unequal and that people can face advantages or disadvantages based on how society treats them based on certain characteristics.
I cant imagine that’s a ‘left’ position so much as it is an ‘adult with a brain’ position, right?
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CMV: A police tactic to root out rioters from a protest by posing as a rioter is an undercover sting, not a false flag operation, and is not immoral.
A false flag operation requires a group to conduct illegal or unethical behaviour and then pretend it was another group that did it.
A sting involves an officer going ... | So, let's say they are a undercover sting, and not a false flag: let's look at the effect of the action.
There is a group of people in a crowd at a protest, clearing voicing their first amendment rights. Now, a cop shows up and tries to convince several people there to act in bad faith, which, if successful, often w... | From [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag):
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CMV: It doesn’t make sense that good people who don’t believe in God go to hell anyways.
My boyfriend is very religious so I’ve tried to keep an open mind to Christianity. Personally, I think we live in a simulation. Not going to explain all the details since it’s not the subject but it’s not very far from being relig... | I don't like the conception of hell as a place where God sends bad people. To me, hell is being separated from God. Heaven is being with God. Each person gets to choose. They can accept God's gift of forgiveness and go hang out with God for eternity or they can ignore/reject God's gift of forgiveness and exclude themse... | Assuming there is a god, wouldn't they want to give people a motivating factor to believe in and worship them? Otherwise, what's the point of being a god?
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How about some type of appearance? Like in dreams or giving a clear sign they’re there? If I see people worship me and I’ve never given them any signs only oth... | fvp21q | CMV: It doesn’t make sense that good people who don’t believe in God go to hell anyways. | My boyfriend is very religious so I’ve tried to keep an open mind to Christianity. Personally, I think we live in a simulation. Not going to explain all the details since it’s not the subject but it’s not very far from being religious: if we’re in a simulation there is a “creator” and if we’re conscious we might just c... | detectivejuicee | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Sexual Promiscuity is Not a Form of Female Empowerment, Purity is
Ever since the Sexual Liberation emerged in America during the 1950s, there has been an increased effort in encouraging women to 'find oneself' and to 'gain experience' via sleeping around with numerous people. This viewpoint has been pushed as a '... | Empowerment is about choice, not restriction. If a woman finds fulfillment in abstinence, that’s great. If she finds empowerment in exploring her sexuality, that’s also valid. Framing one as inherently better than the other assumes there’s a universal standard for what gives women power, but empowerment is personal. Th... | Purity culture has a long and well documented history on how it has actively been used to oppress women so it’s quite confusing to just flat out claim that this is female empowerment more so than promiscuity lol.
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CMV: Chopsticks are never superior to a fork, and are often inferior
A fork allows you to grab food similarly to how you with using a spoon, or to stick it into food and pick it up. This enables you to choose from eating selected bits to taking up a lot in one bite. A fork is very easy to use. A fork can also be used ... | What about food that you are not supposed to pierce before getting it in your mouth? Sushi might break if you try to stab a dull fork through. Dumplings with liquid inside will leak.
Or delicate materials like cooked fish that will just break apart if you try to stab them with a fork.
>When eating noodles, fork makes... | Why so you care what the people you are eating with use? It’s a free country, let them eat judgement free however they want. Also, chopsticks are more of a situational choice - i use them when eating sushi because they hold the sushi together rather than stab through it, fork-style. For other things, a fork is superior... | 7mej9k | CMV: Chopsticks are never superior to a fork, and are often inferior | A fork allows you to grab food similarly to how you with using a spoon, or to stick it into food and pick it up. This enables you to choose from eating selected bits to taking up a lot in one bite. A fork is very easy to use. A fork can also be used to cut through things by using the side of the fork, helping you make ... | MansonsDaughter | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Had Jimmy Carter won reelection in 1980, the United States would be in a much better off position.
Over the last couple of years, there was rhetoric and reflection about how the 2016 election would be, and was, an election whose outcome would drastically change the direction of the United States. At the same time... | [removed]
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I wish you'd not have attacked OP personally so much because it is a really good rebuttal otherwise.
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I didn't attack him personally. I said that his statements were ignorant, because they are. I'm sure the OP is a perfectly nice person, but he doesn't know what he's talking about. | I don't really have strong enough knowledge of either Reagan's or Carter's terms to debate this, but if I were to try, I would talk about Reagan's role in bringing about the end of the USSR. I seriously doubt that Carter would've put the same level of pressure on them. [There's a thread about Reagan's role over at /r... | 8asc35 | CMV: Had Jimmy Carter won reelection in 1980, the United States would be in a much better off position. | Over the last couple of years, there was rhetoric and reflection about how the 2016 election would be, and was, an election whose outcome would drastically change the direction of the United States. At the same time, looking back at how the administration of Ronald Reagan was, I think that 1980 may have been even more ... | WhereMyCountryGone | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: there is nothing wrong with long lasting copyright ownership laws stopping I.Ps going into public domain use.
A lot of people seem to be against the increases to the time in which an intellectual properties copyright ownership expires putting it in the public domain to be used freely.
This started when Mickey Mou... | Almost all of Disney's movies are based on old, public domain stories. Without the public domain, Disney wouldn't have made Snow White, Pinocchio, The Little Mermaid, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Tangled, Mulan, Frozen, Sword in the Stone, and I'm sure I'm missing some.
If the creators of those stories had IP laws lik... | The Walt Disney Company didn't create Mickey though. Walt did. He had created him *before* the business.
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It is still owned by the business he created.
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Exactly. It's not owned by it's creator anymore. | 8atmnv | CMV: there is nothing wrong with long lasting copyright ownership laws stopping I.Ps going into public domain use. | A lot of people seem to be against the increases to the time in which an intellectual properties copyright ownership expires putting it in the public domain to be used freely.
This started when Mickey Mouse was going to originally enter public domain and Disney lobbied to get the copyright laws extended out of fear of ... | Mobbles1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There isn’t any logical argument one can make for banning the Burka.
It all boils down to emotional positions like “they should conform to society” and “it’s scary to see someone fully covered up like that.
Something I hear very often is that it allows the concealment of illicit items which gives rise to crime, ... | Speaking as a Muslim here, Burkas are extreme in their own way, there is little religious backing to them on the doctrine side, and identity issues (tests, men masquerading, theft etc) have all happened because of them on the secular side.
Covering your face is exempt from even the most extreme religious interpretati... | It's oppressive to women. They have little agency in that culture.
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This is an emotional argument, who gives you the authority to dictate that every woman who wears the Burka is being oppressed? That would be the position you would have to hold to ban it
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Because women aren’t free enough in Muslim cultures t... | 1ltjctc | CMV: There isn’t any logical argument one can make for banning the Burka. | It all boils down to emotional positions like “they should conform to society” and “it’s scary to see someone fully covered up like that.
Something I hear very often is that it allows the concealment of illicit items which gives rise to crime, however there isn’t any data that shows a link between being covered up mor... | Curiosity_456 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: College parties are not worth it at all, and you shouldn't go to them.
I'm back from my first semester of college, and I've been noticing that a lot of my friends from high school are going out and partying hard. And I mean it.
I'll be honest and say that I did go to one frat party... so you don't have to. I did... | Are not worth *what* at all?
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The consequences, as I have explained above.
It's just an unhealthy lifestyle that's not worth it.
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According to whom?
Just because it's not worth it to you - you're not fond of parties either way - doesn't mean that's the case for everyone.
Now, the college I went to was a di... | When I was in college, I went to a few parties. It cost me exactly zero dollars since I wasn't just showing up places uninvited, nobody got seriously injured or killed, and nobody got in legal trouble, even though we definitely violated plenty of laws regarding alcohol and weed.
I also graduated with good grades, and ... | zxtkmf | CMV: College parties are not worth it at all, and you shouldn't go to them. | I'm back from my first semester of college, and I've been noticing that a lot of my friends from high school are going out and partying hard. And I mean it.
I'll be honest and say that I did go to one frat party... so you don't have to. I didn't enjoy it at all. I had to pay 25 bucks to get in since I didn't bring any... | RandomTW5566 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: College parties are not worth it at all, and you shouldn't go to them.
I'm back from my first semester of college, and I've been noticing that a lot of my friends from high school are going out and partying hard. And I mean it.
I'll be honest and say that I did go to one frat party... so you don't have to. I did... | [deleted]
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I go to college not to "have fun", but to study. Thank you very much.
I want a career. Do you?
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Studying and wanting a career doesn’t stop someone from having fun or attending parties.
I was a dual engineering major, with near perfect grades, who was in a fraternity and attended many, many parti... | Are not worth *what* at all?
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Why are you calling me a dork?
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What was it about my question that made me sound like a dork to you? Did you not expect to be asked questions when you posted your CMV? | zxtkmf | CMV: College parties are not worth it at all, and you shouldn't go to them. | I'm back from my first semester of college, and I've been noticing that a lot of my friends from high school are going out and partying hard. And I mean it.
I'll be honest and say that I did go to one frat party... so you don't have to. I didn't enjoy it at all. I had to pay 25 bucks to get in since I didn't bring any... | RandomTW5566 | 5 | 5 | [
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"... | [
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CMV: Churches should pay taxes
Why should I effectively subsidize a someone else's religion? Before any one gets the idea that I'm just hating on religion, I'm not, I am an atheist, but that doesnt matter. Pretty much all churches tithe those who go, in one form or another, whether a donation box, or whatever. Tho... | A lot of churches are effectively charitable organizations. In fact, that’s a huge part of the mission of many churches. I’ve even seen one with a rather large free vegetable garden. They grow it, and anybody (not just church members) is welcome to take some home. Literally just stop at the side of the road and grab wh... | Churches are tax exempt in part because they file as a nonprofit. Do you have evidence that churches are posting profits illegally?
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No, I'm not making any corruption allegations, good point! See edit
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A non profit doesn't require it being a charitable organization though. Are you advocating changing what cou... | c5t5v5 | CMV: Churches should pay taxes | Why should I effectively subsidize a someone else's religion? Before any one gets the idea that I'm just hating on religion, I'm not, I am an atheist, but that doesnt matter. Pretty much all churches tithe those who go, in one form or another, whether a donation box, or whatever. Those who use the church should pay... | Seagge | 3 | 3 | [
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