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CMV: Complaints about "Forced Diversity" are often based on Forced Sameness.
"Forced Diversity" has become a constant topic in media-dedicated spaces on this website and others. Few weeks go by without someone on /r/unpopularopinion, or this sub talking about it, and every time they do I get the same questions and obj... | Q1: forced diversity means the writer puts minority characters in to the story where they don't fit, or feels like they are doing it to appease a small group of people who think it's important. For example adding a gay character to infinity war added nothing to the story and felt more like a shout-out to the gay commu... | When the main trait of your character is his/her sexuality or race or whatever makes them "diverse"...that's forced diversity.
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Want to see a gay character done right? Captain Flint on Black Sails. You didn't even know he was gay until the last episode. His character was an actual character, not a token gay g... | fh6a0t | CMV: Complaints about "Forced Diversity" are often based on Forced Sameness. | "Forced Diversity" has become a constant topic in media-dedicated spaces on this website and others. Few weeks go by without someone on /r/unpopularopinion, or this sub talking about it, and every time they do I get the same questions and objections.
I'm gay and representation in media means a lot to me, because of t... | Scribbles_ | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Left wingers shouldn't stand in the way of a formal public or judicial inquiry to settle controversial topics.
# Inspirations for this post
Over on r/TheMotte, [I was presented with](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/kdhxvs/cmv_manufacturing_consent_can_and_has/gg2zp45?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&... | > But I think it is best that we take that option to get these controversial topics over and done with.
Sure, of course this would be best. But the thing is: _we've already done that_. We know as well as we can know anything that racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia and other common forms of bigotry are wrong, and ... | > should all be brought out into the open
The important question is: who are you handing a microphone to and who are you drowning out?
Do you magnify the one climate expert who is a climate change skeptic times 100 to give then an equal voice to the 99 who disagree with him? Or worse, do you hand the microphone to p... | kjbjwi | CMV: Left wingers shouldn't stand in the way of a formal public or judicial inquiry to settle controversial topics. | # Inspirations for this post
Over on r/TheMotte, [I was presented with](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/kdhxvs/cmv_manufacturing_consent_can_and_has/gg2zp45?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) 2 links that contradict much of what I was taught in high school and university (see quote below). I promi... | Real_Carl_Ramirez | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: In the digital age, there should be no distinction between "original" documents and "copies".
So, I'm a lawyer. A lot of places in the legal field have rules about submitting "originals" versus "copies", where "originals" have wet-ink signatures and "copies" are copies of the document with that wet-ink signature.... | It is really easy to forge a copy, not so much for an original document. Obviously it can be done, but it is harder.
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Is it, though? Handwriting analysis has largely been debunked.
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Forgery can be more than just faking a signature. I don’t know if you watch _Better Call Saul_ but there was one episode where ... | How can you write something like this and not once mention NFT's?
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They are too new to be legally sound in the scenarios mentioned by OP. Maybe down the road they will have more use, but right now we're in the early, exploratory stages of figuring out what NFTs could be used for.
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The entire concept of NFTs a... | w5dr0q | CMV: In the digital age, there should be no distinction between "original" documents and "copies". | So, I'm a lawyer. A lot of places in the legal field have rules about submitting "originals" versus "copies", where "originals" have wet-ink signatures and "copies" are copies of the document with that wet-ink signature. Two examples that come to mind are the filing of appeals and the signing of a bankruptcy petition. ... | LucidLeviathan | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Universal basic employment, not universal basic income should replace social security
EDIT: Sorry, I meant unemployment benefits, not pensions, in particular for long term unemployed people, when I said “social security”. I guess I translated that too literally from the German “social safety net”.
There is a lot... | Didn't communism try this and ended up with 4 people opening every important door and 2 for every non important door.
So really you would end up with a lot of "make-work" not work that actually needs to be done.
Also who is paying for "those little jobs done that nobody has time or money for right now."?
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I ment... | It sounds like you're just stopping retirement.
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[removed] | w5atwi | CMV: Universal basic employment, not universal basic income should replace social security | EDIT: Sorry, I meant unemployment benefits, not pensions, in particular for long term unemployed people, when I said “social security”. I guess I translated that too literally from the German “social safety net”.
There is a lot of talk about universal basic income these days. I suggest an alternative: Universal basic ... | ThrowWeirdQuestion | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The theory that the DNC emails were leaked from the inside is closer to reality than any other theory behind the 2016 election.
I've always been a skeptic of both sides, I'm not conservative or liberal by any means. I think any person, party, or agency that puts their pride above justice is detrimental to society... | The Seth Rich story doesn't add up, and has a lot of things working against it.
###The family denies it
You'd think the family would be the most interested in catching the actual murderer. Why would they deny it?
###Access to emails
Did Seth Rich even have access to that information? He worked on software for vot... | There is no actual evidence that Rich was the leaker. Absolutely none.
If he was, what on EARTH would be the point in killing him? This is the problem with conspiracy theories. They rely on everyone involved being Schrödinger's idiot. Simultaneously evil and devious enough to rig an election but dumb enough to not on... | 6bj4rf | CMV: The theory that the DNC emails were leaked from the inside is closer to reality than any other theory behind the 2016 election. | I've always been a skeptic of both sides, I'm not conservative or liberal by any means. I think any person, party, or agency that puts their pride above justice is detrimental to society as a whole. I'm also not that fond of Trump, he could be smoother with what he does. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4509952/... | nikeshoes117 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Sanctions should not be used as they are ineffective and disproportionally hurt the vulnerable in the targeted countries
The United States has used sanctions as a diplomatic tool to pressure countries, either because of perceived threats( Iran and North Korea) , desire for regime change (Venezuela) or punishment ... | The alternative is bombing those country into oblivion, which would definitely hurt the vulnerable in the targeted countries.
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I think what they mean is you only have so many ways you can force another country to stop doing something. If the end res... | There are 3 options:
n1) Leave the dictator in keeping millions oppressed/malnourished for decades until he passes the mantle to his dictator son. See North Korea.
n2) Invade and try to get rid of him to establish a democracy.
n3) a. Put economic sanctions so the people would feel compelled to rise against him/or fo... | c3k0qk | CMV: Sanctions should not be used as they are ineffective and disproportionally hurt the vulnerable in the targeted countries | The United States has used sanctions as a diplomatic tool to pressure countries, either because of perceived threats( Iran and North Korea) , desire for regime change (Venezuela) or punishment for actions (Russia). It is used to push countries to the negotiating table. Although I believe the actions of these countries ... | 007_reincarnated | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: "proportionate response" as a military action is unethical and strategically unsound.
The justification for violence in a military conflict is defense and achieving defined military objectives. Proportionate response is a controlled amount of violence that achieves neither goal. It is intended to be punitive, but... | Think about the absence of proportionate response.
If you throw a rock at me, should I be allowed to nuke you and your country off the face of the earth?
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But if we are neighbors and I throw a rock at you, you would probably call the police and the state would intercede. If you were a country and one of your citi... | Proportionate response is a game theory tactic to try to incentivize better behavior.
It creates a predictable cost for certain actions to try to incentivize avoiding those actions.
Military actions are messy and can often have lots of unintended consequences. If both sides view the other as the aggressor and have s... | c3gs0m | CMV: "proportionate response" as a military action is unethical and strategically unsound. | The justification for violence in a military conflict is defense and achieving defined military objectives. Proportionate response is a controlled amount of violence that achieves neither goal. It is intended to be punitive, but realistically you are actually killing military personnel who are not related to the origin... | dan_jeffers | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The only way to unite all humanity is by creating a universally hated enemy (and this cannot be done)
A frequent topic I've been encountering as of late is the general divisiveness across society. Speaking as an American, I most often hear this discussion in context of the 2016 election, but it goes without sayin... | Aliens.
If aliens come to invade earth I suspect we would be forced to work together to defeat them.
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So why c... | We've tried this a few times in history and while it does tend to work for a little while, it doesn't really work long term
The thing about a common enemy isn't that it really "unites" anyone, but rather it gets everyone to put their differences aside for a period of time. We collectively say, "This particular threat... | 6bbf1o | CMV: The only way to unite all humanity is by creating a universally hated enemy (and this cannot be done) | A frequent topic I've been encountering as of late is the general divisiveness across society. Speaking as an American, I most often hear this discussion in context of the 2016 election, but it goes without saying that this issue has been around for much, much longer.
While divisiveness seems to originate from conflic... | 21stCenturySchizopod | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We should not charge people with resisting arrest if their arrest was unlawful.
I do not mean somebody was arrested as a suspect for a crime, and then later found not guilty. I mean when police abuse their power and try to arrest people on fake charges, an example being police trying to arrest people for filming ... | Well I mean police does have the right to enforce the law.
That means that if you're placed under arrest... Rightfully or wrongfully... Well you're still under arrest.
And since YOU do not have the right to resist your arrest, and they have the right to arrest you, well that makes for a very short debate
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If your only charge is resisting arrest, and the arrest itself is unlawful, then you cannot be found guilty of resisting arrest.
If the police arrest you for failing to provide an ID, but you had provided the ID, and resist arrest, you will sti... | fh0l7k | CMV: We should not charge people with resisting arrest if their arrest was unlawful. | I do not mean somebody was arrested as a suspect for a crime, and then later found not guilty. I mean when police abuse their power and try to arrest people on fake charges, an example being police trying to arrest people for filming them.
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CMV: 'Left' and 'right' braininess is a symptom of the sickness called liberalism pushed by lazy and incompetent educators.
In the Netherlands there is a great deal of streaming in the educational system. Everyone starts at the same level of elementary schooling with already some heavy disparity between school A and s... | What do you want changed about your view(s)?
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I wonder if you can show that teachers are justified in this problem. Especially this:
\>'I blame this faulty mentality for my delay and to further explain my POV; I think that this moronic liberal interpretation of 'not measuring a fish by how well it can climb a tr... | You say you never did your math homework. How would your teachers have known that you had any interest in math?
Also, are you in university yet? If not, that’s great that you can switch paths now! I spent so much money getting a degree I don’t use and then had to pay even more to get a different one so this sounds to... | meiqhh | CMV: 'Left' and 'right' braininess is a symptom of the sickness called liberalism pushed by lazy and incompetent educators. | In the Netherlands there is a great deal of streaming in the educational system. Everyone starts at the same level of elementary schooling with already some heavy disparity between school A and school B with white flight being a major problem and experiments with education hiding behind progressiveness to justify scary... | reuental-teitoku | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Hollywood is increasingly overt with its ideological messages, to the point it's sacrificing quality and subtlety for eye rolling and self congratulatory scripts.
Hollywood has always been the place for pushing progressive ideals, and I take no issue with better representation and characters that better represent... | I mean, the prequel trilogy was about Bush Jr. and the War on Terror.
Hollywood has always been about the ideological messages.
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True and like I said it's always been progressive, but is it less subtle and more overt and in your face? I mean is it likely you would know the prequels were about the Bush presidency... | I'm not sure on the parameters here. What are we defining as Hollywood? It seems like your CMV is self-reinforcing because Hollywood (as I understand it; as the big traditional American studios) has always sacrificed quality and subtlety for ideological messaging. That's kind of their thing. So, I'm not sure how they c... | 7wr9e4 | CMV: Hollywood is increasingly overt with its ideological messages, to the point it's sacrificing quality and subtlety for eye rolling and self congratulatory scripts. | Hollywood has always been the place for pushing progressive ideals, and I take no issue with better representation and characters that better represent their sex/race. It makes for better viewing. But it appears as of late Hollywood has swapped a scalpel for a sledgehammer; it is so focused on telling people what they ... | spartan-mind-psych | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: In European countries for instance, nonviolent 'hate speech' against religious and national groups should be decriminalised.
Each of these two groups is often protected in western nations, to the point that criticism of them is punishable by criminal law. I think that this prohibition ends up stifling legitimate ... | >Religion - at the heart of it, religious groups are ideologies. We don't imprison people for loudly condemning and mocking ideological groups, such as political parties, but when you start talking about religion (a changeable ideology) the criminal justice system goes after you with full force.
The tradeoff here is w... | Can you name/link an concrete law that forbids the criticism of religious/national groups?
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CMV: The demonizing of nationalism has fucked over the poor in western countries
Remember that quote from the Simpsons that goes something like
"The problem with being middle class is everyone who cares will abandon you for those who need them more"
Well I feel like that's what happening to the poor in Western coun... | You do realize that immigrants are very beneficial for the economy and were a major driving force in the industrial revolution back in the 1800's for the US?
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If you define the economy as the rich getting richer that is true. If you are talking abou... | Do you like paying next to nothing for clothes from Primark?
Do you like your IPhone, car, laptop or insert any other modern affordable invention?
Very specific subsets of the 'poor's suffer from globalisation but the vast majority benefit.
Also have you looked at places like America? Nationalism is still widely pra... | mehg3v | CMV: The demonizing of nationalism has fucked over the poor in western countries | Remember that quote from the Simpsons that goes something like
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Well I feel like that's what happening to the poor in Western countries. Everything is getting worse for everyone who isn't at least in the top 50% ... | BestoBato | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The United Kingdom is one country, not four.
The UK is often described as a "country of countries", with 4 distinct countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. But what does "country" here even mean? They're obviously not independent states, since they all elect and answer to the House of Commons. T... | The word "country" has multiple definitions. Most of the time when people say country they mean sovereign state, but it has a second meaning that applies to places like Scotland and England. It is confusing but technically the UK is a country that consists of 3 or 4 (not sure about Northern Ireland) countries, it's jus... | I believe "country" refers to "nation" here - of course they are legally the same country, but the each have distinct history, traditions, language and royalty. Aside from the legal status, the differences are similarily as large as between some other european countries, say Belgium and the Netherlands.
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I could p... | meihox | CMV: The United Kingdom is one country, not four. | The UK is often described as a "country of countries", with 4 distinct countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. But what does "country" here even mean? They're obviously not independent states, since they all elect and answer to the House of Commons. They're certainly not co-equal since England doesn't... | KaptenNicco123 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Teens should vote, and them voting would lead to a better country.
A couple of points:
1. Voting isn't really that complex. I struggle to think how you need a lot of maturity or deep thinking in order to vote, when the fact is the vast vast majority don't really put that much thought, effort, or maturity into th... | >...but I believe it's not that big of a deal when you're 16. Maybe even 15 or 14.
So, adults are already easy enough to manipulate in masses. Kids are even easier. Even a very mature 16 year old is easily influenced by a few right words and the right face. Experience is important. Experience can help you recognize wh... | But.. teens can *already* vote.
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Yup!
18 and 19 | cnknmj | CMV: Teens should vote, and them voting would lead to a better country. | A couple of points:
1. Voting isn't really that complex. I struggle to think how you need a lot of maturity or deep thinking in order to vote, when the fact is the vast vast majority don't really put that much thought, effort, or maturity into their voting decisions. It's not really about experience or knowledge eithe... | sunglao | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: “Lying by omission” isn’t a thing because omission isn’t lying. Omission and lying are two separate, equally toxic behaviors.
My argument is not that lying by omission isn't lying and therefore it's okay. My argument is that lying by omission is not the right way to characterize someone omitting information. Omit... | I find that when people say "lie by omission" what they are saying, what they mean is "deception by withholding." In that sense I understand why the two are so comparable and why someone saying a lie by omission, while not technically accurate terminology, is gettin the idea across.
In both situations the intent was ... | I disagree that lying by omission is at all either a lie or deceptive. There's a reason people have the right to remain silent in a court. You can't prove a negative. A lie is a positive statement, not saying something is not deceptive its the natural state. You can infer someone is being deceptive in their omission bu... | 1kda7ll | CMV: “Lying by omission” isn’t a thing because omission isn’t lying. Omission and lying are two separate, equally toxic behaviors. | My argument is not that lying by omission isn't lying and therefore it's okay. My argument is that lying by omission is not the right way to characterize someone omitting information. Omitting information is bad enough on its own; it doesn't need to be considered lying for someone to justifiably feel hurt by it.
Lying... | MenorahsaurusRex | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Subreddits like r/LateStageCapitalism are just as bad r/T_D, and if one is banned, so should the other.
Currently, on r/bestof there is a post celebrating a user who is continuing to cite r/T_D's offenses that u/Spez apparently ignored during his recent Q and A. This reminded me of another list of offenses cited ... | I notice you throw "hate speech and radical politics" together as if they are the same thing. Subs should be banned for attacking people. Brigading, attacking people, and inciting violence are cause for bans. The political leaning is irrelevant. If the mods at latestagecapitalism are allowing or supporting those things... | Wasn't /r/T_D accused of manipulating the upvote system to get their post on /r/all, or did I just make that up?
I also don't necessarily agree with a mandate for or against hate speech, but I don't really get the sense that Late Stage Capitalism qualifes as hate speech. I don't think it's particularly high quality an... | 7bm3ob | CMV: Subreddits like r/LateStageCapitalism are just as bad r/T_D, and if one is banned, so should the other. | Currently, on r/bestof there is a post celebrating a user who is continuing to cite r/T_D's offenses that u/Spez apparently ignored during his recent Q and A. This reminded me of another list of offenses cited during Spez's post for r/LateStageCapitalism and other leftwing subreddits.
I think freedom of speech is imp... | Overlord_C | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: if President Trump fires Robert Muller, it will not cause a “constitutional crisis”
I’ll say up front that I am no fan of the President, and I believe there’s lots of garbage yet to be uncovered by Special Counsel Muller’s investigation. I also believe that firing Muller would be a sh*tshow politically and would ... | From your linked 538 article:
> The last type of constitutional crisis — when different parts or branches of government are at loggerheads — might be the one we are most likely to see during Trump’s administration. If Trump continues to strain democratic norms and push political boundaries, Congress, the courts or eve... | If Mueller says Trump has committed treason by cooperating with foreign powers to get elected and tells the Sergeant at Arms to arrest Trump, but Trump says Mueller is fired and the Sergeant of Arms shouldn't be following his orders what happens? I don't think the constitution makes that clear which is what a constitut... | 7lp1d8 | CMV: if President Trump fires Robert Muller, it will not cause a “constitutional crisis” | I’ll say up front that I am no fan of the President, and I believe there’s lots of garbage yet to be uncovered by Special Counsel Muller’s investigation. I also believe that firing Muller would be a sh*tshow politically and would cause lots of protests and anger. That said, I believe the tension between the WH and Mull... | FishFollower74 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Minimum wage is bad for the people it tries to help, especially the most vulnerable
* All of the studies I have read showing minimum wage has little effect look at *small changes* in the minimum wage. Even that famous Card-Kreuger study I believe was looking at changes of 5-10%. When you look at really big change... | The American Samoan disaster may be instructive in this discussion. The application of the minimum was actually not accidental, as you state, but deliberately instigated by Republicans who claimed that Nancy Pelosi's American Samoa exemption in the bill was the result of lobbying pressure from DelMonte and other canned... | >* Minimum wage prevents you from taking a chance on vulnerable employees. If you're paying an ex felon $10/hour and a college grad $14/hour, then minimum wage goes to $15, who do you think will be fired? As a correlary to this, previously felons or people with other issues could compete on price and undercut the colle... | 8a6z77 | CMV: Minimum wage is bad for the people it tries to help, especially the most vulnerable | * All of the studies I have read showing minimum wage has little effect look at *small changes* in the minimum wage. Even that famous Card-Kreuger study I believe was looking at changes of 5-10%. When you look at really big changes, like the accidental application of the federal minimum wage to American Samoa, the whol... | Judicator01 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Rape accusations by people who fit the profile of an "sjw" are less credible than those by people with mainstream views.
If there is a highly publicized rape accusation and the accuser turns out to be someone who runs in third-wave feminist circles--for example, if they write for radfem publications or run a blog... | You know, I might be going against the grain here, but I think you're right. I do think that they may be less credible than the average person.
But I think it is a very, very dangerous game to think this way, and that it's worth it to cast the line of thinking aside in a situation like this.
If you are in the buissne... | So, in other words, you literally judge people based upon their appearance.
And you need us to tell you why that's bad?
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Actually, I stopped reading at 'traditionally pretty'.
If you really think that 'SJWs' want to be raped so they can have elevated social status in their peer group, whatever th... | 81gva3 | CMV: Rape accusations by people who fit the profile of an "sjw" are less credible than those by people with mainstream views. | If there is a highly publicized rape accusation and the accuser turns out to be someone who runs in third-wave feminist circles--for example, if they write for radfem publications or run a blog about patriarchy or white privilege or microagressions, or if they intentionally have a certain "look" (non-natural hair color... | contro-versy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: book series that have been on hiatus and are likely to never finish should have a huge notification on the cover by law
Hey everyone
as someone who loves to read, finding a book series that is fundamentally good is quite hard, but even harder than that is sitting and hoping that the author is gonna finish a book... | You need the government to tell you this? Why not google a series you’re thinking of picking up instead of getting the feds involved.
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That's actually another issue, I don't remember the site, but I got recommended both ASOIAF and kingkiller when I was searching for fantasy book series on Google and nowhere in th... | How do you decide which authors get the warning?
And why are you only focusing on living authors? You didn't even mention the fact that some authors have in fact died before finishing their work. Are we mad at them too?
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>How do you decide which authors get the warning?
there should be a timeframe, a grace peri... | 1ivj87v | CMV: book series that have been on hiatus and are likely to never finish should have a huge notification on the cover by law | Hey everyone
as someone who loves to read, finding a book series that is fundamentally good is quite hard, but even harder than that is sitting and hoping that the author is gonna finish a book series that all signs point to it never finishing.
my view is that book series that are likely to never finish need to have ... | HeraldOfShadows | 11 | 7 | [
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CMV: I should resist my homosexuality and not lead a homosexual lifestyle
I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
I don't see any way to lead a gay lifestyle that doesn't contradict my faith. I want to, b... | Think about it this way. I'm fully sterile and me and my girl have sex all the time. But we use contraceptives that make it so we CAN'T have children. We were both raised poor so before we have children we want to make sure we have a nice sustainable financial future to have a child in maybe.
We might never have kids... | Resisting your basic urges is going to make you unhealthy. Sexual repression causes mental illness. It is theorised, for instance, that the persistent abuse of children by Catholic priests is due in part or in whole to the sexual repression of the priests.
So what does your religion say about health? "The care of the ... | 7lncfh | CMV: I should resist my homosexuality and not lead a homosexual lifestyle | I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
I don't see any way to lead a gay lifestyle that doesn't contradict my faith. I want to, but I don't. It is against the Natural Law to engage in sexual intercourse t... | MisunderestimatingMe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I should resist my homosexuality and not lead a homosexual lifestyle
I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
I don't see any way to lead a gay lifestyle that doesn't contradict my faith. I want to, b... | Resisting your basic urges is going to make you unhealthy. Sexual repression causes mental illness. It is theorised, for instance, that the persistent abuse of children by Catholic priests is due in part or in whole to the sexual repression of the priests.
So what does your religion say about health? "The care of the ... | This isn't something that we can easily change for you. You have a choice to either be honest to yourself or honest to your church.
That's a decision you have to make. What you have aren't urges. This is a part of who you are and it will not change, not even after you have a wife and children. Would you be willing to... | 7lncfh | CMV: I should resist my homosexuality and not lead a homosexual lifestyle | I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
I don't see any way to lead a gay lifestyle that doesn't contradict my faith. I want to, but I don't. It is against the Natural Law to engage in sexual intercourse t... | MisunderestimatingMe | 3 | 3 | [
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I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
I don't see any way to lead a gay lifestyle that doesn't contradict my faith. I want to, b... | Think about it this way. I'm fully sterile and me and my girl have sex all the time. But we use contraceptives that make it so we CAN'T have children. We were both raised poor so before we have children we want to make sure we have a nice sustainable financial future to have a child in maybe.
We might never have kids... | Resisting your basic urges is going to make you unhealthy. Sexual repression causes mental illness. It is theorised, for instance, that the persistent abuse of children by Catholic priests is due in part or in whole to the sexual repression of the priests.
So what does your religion say about health? "The care of the ... | 7lncfh | CMV: I should resist my homosexuality and not lead a homosexual lifestyle | I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
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I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
I don't see any way to lead a gay lifestyle that doesn't contradict my faith. I want to, b... | Think about it this way. I'm fully sterile and me and my girl have sex all the time. But we use contraceptives that make it so we CAN'T have children. We were both raised poor so before we have children we want to make sure we have a nice sustainable financial future to have a child in maybe.
We might never have kids... | Resisting your basic urges is going to make you unhealthy. Sexual repression causes mental illness. It is theorised, for instance, that the persistent abuse of children by Catholic priests is due in part or in whole to the sexual repression of the priests.
So what does your religion say about health? "The care of the ... | 7lncfh | CMV: I should resist my homosexuality and not lead a homosexual lifestyle | I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
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I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
I don't see any way to lead a gay lifestyle that doesn't contradict my faith. I want to, b... | This isn't something that we can easily change for you. You have a choice to either be honest to yourself or honest to your church.
That's a decision you have to make. What you have aren't urges. This is a part of who you are and it will not change, not even after you have a wife and children. Would you be willing to... | Think about it this way. I'm fully sterile and me and my girl have sex all the time. But we use contraceptives that make it so we CAN'T have children. We were both raised poor so before we have children we want to make sure we have a nice sustainable financial future to have a child in maybe.
We might never have kids... | 7lncfh | CMV: I should resist my homosexuality and not lead a homosexual lifestyle | I'm gay and was raised Catholic. I've never been in a relationship (I'm only 18, so maybe not that far behind by gay standards) nor have I ever had sex.
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CMV: I think the Internet could eventually replace universities
Universities as institutions serve a variety of purposes, but first and foremost they provide a social structure that produces and passes along knowledge in a manner that is verified and trustworthy. Universities create standards for knowledge and educat... | In STEM fields, universities provide laboratories and equipment.
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One exciting possibility I didn't mention is that of crowdfunding. The internet could be used to fundraise research projects of public interest, and could pay for spaces and equipment without being subject to private interests. This is a major co... | Who's going to accredit degrees?
Who's going to test them?
Who's going to define thr curriculum?
Who's going to do the paperwork?
Who's going to house labs, offices and libraries?
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CMV: All scholarships should be merit based
Many scholarships for financial aid in the us are reserved for minorities, women and those from poverty. I think that all should be based on how much the individual applicant needs the financial aid regardless of their background or physical characteristics. I think that wom... | So...what you're saying is that me - as a private citizen - should not be able to setup a scholarship with the criteria I set forth? That seems like a massive intrusion into my choices for how I use my money.
This is how most scholarships come to be.
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Just seems to me that it’s textbook racism/sexism. X person ... | “They have no additional difficulties”. That’s where you went wrong.
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What difficulty does every woman and minority face that every man and white person doesn’t?
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> What difficulty does every woman and minority face that every man and white person doesn’t?
There's been plenty of statistical evidence showing... | 8a5hvy | CMV: All scholarships should be merit based | Many scholarships for financial aid in the us are reserved for minorities, women and those from poverty. I think that all should be based on how much the individual applicant needs the financial aid regardless of their background or physical characteristics. I think that women and minorities are no more deserving than ... | sweet-pie-of-mine | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: It Doesn't Make Sense to Be Pro Ukraine and Pro Taiwan at the Same Time
This has been something that was bothering me ever since the war started. Many on the left that were pro Taiwan became very pro Ukraine as well. However, in my opinion the two stances are contradictory.
Two very big issues behind the Ukraine... | Your argument evaporates when rephrased: China believes Taiwan belongs to it, Russia believes parts of the Ukraine should belong to it. Taiwan and Ukraine are both internationally recognised as sovereign states. Israel may believe the occupied zones of Palestine belong to it, but a treaty *they* agreed says otherwise.
... | I could be wrong, but wasn't the polling that showed those regions wanting to join Russia actually Russian propaganda?
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/03/20/one-yea... | zuboda | CMV: It Doesn't Make Sense to Be Pro Ukraine and Pro Taiwan at the Same Time | This has been something that was bothering me ever since the war started. Many on the left that were pro Taiwan became very pro Ukraine as well. However, in my opinion the two stances are contradictory.
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CMV: It Doesn't Make Sense to Be Pro Ukraine and Pro Taiwan at the Same Time
This has been something that was bothering me ever since the war started. Many on the left that were pro Taiwan became very pro Ukraine as well. However, in my opinion the two stances are contradictory.
Two very big issues behind the Ukraine... | Your argument evaporates when rephrased: China believes Taiwan belongs to it, Russia believes parts of the Ukraine should belong to it. Taiwan and Ukraine are both internationally recognised as sovereign states. Israel may believe the occupied zones of Palestine belong to it, but a treaty *they* agreed says otherwise.
... | I’m pro self-determination and against military aggression. If a clear and objectively defined majority of people and political leaders of certain Ukrainian regions were demanding to secede and join Russia I’d support a diplomatic solution. In no circumstance would I support a military invasion to “liberate” the people... | zuboda | CMV: It Doesn't Make Sense to Be Pro Ukraine and Pro Taiwan at the Same Time | This has been something that was bothering me ever since the war started. Many on the left that were pro Taiwan became very pro Ukraine as well. However, in my opinion the two stances are contradictory.
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CMV: The US Government should not be able to compel someone to testify in court.
This relates to Chelsea Manning's current situation, but I would like to keep discussion more general because I believe considering that case will bias the discussion from all sides.
I read an[ article about being compelled to testify if... | What about specifically in someone's criminal defense? Like if someone is being tried for murder, and I know for a fact they were arguing with me at the time, shouldn't I have to testify in their defense so they don't get punished for a crime they didn't commit?
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I agree that situation is weird. However, you shou... | Doesn't this seem odd? What is the reason we give the government such strong subpoena powers? They are even stronger than you describe in your original post: criminal courts can even force the [President](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon) to answer a subpoena about non-military or non-secret infor... | cngg6g | CMV: The US Government should not be able to compel someone to testify in court. | This relates to Chelsea Manning's current situation, but I would like to keep discussion more general because I believe considering that case will bias the discussion from all sides.
I read an[ article about being compelled to testify if you are subpoenaed before a grand jury](https://www.bostondefenselaw.com/blog/201... | Navebippzy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: i will marry a woman that i met 1 year ago
first of all i want to say that i'm really open to change my view, and second. in case some people ask how do i know she will say yes? she has already asked me when i'm going to propose
context: i'm 25 years old and i just don't feel like dating anymore I've burned all ... | Are you currently dating this woman? Are you in love with her? Is she in love with you? I think you've left out some bits.
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Would explaining what love is, be an action worthy... | Have you been dating for the entire year? Do you really think that's long enough to know the answers to those questions or if you are compatible enough to be tied together for ostensibly the rest of your life? Do you k ow what it would be like to live with her every day? Or how she responds in extremely stressful situa... | 81gc3f | CMV: i will marry a woman that i met 1 year ago | first of all i want to say that i'm really open to change my view, and second. in case some people ask how do i know she will say yes? she has already asked me when i'm going to propose
context: i'm 25 years old and i just don't feel like dating anymore I've burned all my cartridges, i dated a fair amount of girls in ... | wrecker97 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: we should use eugenics to improve the intelligence of the human species.
I’d like to hear any potential problems you all can think of with the core of my idea. However, I’m mainly interested in problems of logistics. I believe that large-scale, organized eugenics to increase human intelligence would be both one o... | Actively doing eugenics to improve overall human intelligence also means that you're actively doing eugenics to drastically decrease overall human morality and empathy.
Activaly doing eugenics to drastically decrease overall human morality and empathy is not what I would call "one of the most beneficial things we coul... | Among other reasons (like the already said "you're weeding out ethics for intelligence"), eugenics just... doesn't work.
You can't just "breed for intelligence", for a number of reasons (and thats even assuming generalized "intelligence" exists, which is itself a pretty hard case to argue).
So you'd be failing to acc... | 1gbbjyb | CMV: we should use eugenics to improve the intelligence of the human species. | I’d like to hear any potential problems you all can think of with the core of my idea. However, I’m mainly interested in problems of logistics. I believe that large-scale, organized eugenics to increase human intelligence would be both one of the most beneficial things we could ever do for ourselves as well as one of t... | Gr8er_than_u_m8 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Other countries(non-U.S.) should have the right to have nuclear weapons.
Why is it that when Iraq is threatening to build "weapons of mass destruction" we freak out yet we are fine with us having those same weapons. We are not morally superior to other nations. You could even argue that historically we are one of... | The ideal is that no one should have them. Therefore, proliferation of any kind is likely a step in the wrong direction. While it seems “fair” that others should have them, that’s not the point. Unless these countries can secure their nuclear weaponry indefinitely, as most nuclear nations can, it presents too much of a... | I'd like to have fewer countries to have nukes not more.
I don't get your logic behind NK... You're essentially saying, "What's wrong with one more madman with a nuke?" I don't even know where to begin. Is not one more madman with a nuke bad enough? Shouldn't we want as few as possible madmen with nukes?
Just beca... | cne6q3 | CMV: Other countries(non-U.S.) should have the right to have nuclear weapons. | Why is it that when Iraq is threatening to build "weapons of mass destruction" we freak out yet we are fine with us having those same weapons. We are not morally superior to other nations. You could even argue that historically we are one of the most reprehensible nations in terms of our dealings with other countries.
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CMV: If there is no proof something exists, it is illogical to act as though it does.
As the title says, I think it's completely illogical to act as though something is real without any evidence that it does exist. As an atheist, I sometimes get Into discussions with Christians about whether or not god exists. I usual... | You have no proof that anything except your own mind exists. Do you believe that your family exists?
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Why do you trust your sense so much? How do you proo... | Hello,
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CMV: Humans should not legally be recognized as "adults" until age 21
You read that right, I don't think any human should legally be considered an adult until around age 21. I'm not sure the reasoning behind 18 (in the US anyways) but I think that age is too young.
My reasoning: The human brain is still developing a... | On average, it costs $10,615 to send a child to public school for a year. I am assuming you want teens to spend three more years in school, rather than 3 years as a child labourer. 3,775,000 kids are in grade 12 right now. You are suggesting that we pay an extra $40 BILLION dollars a year to keep these kids in schoo... | > You read that right, I don't think any human should legally be considered an adult until around age 21. I'm not sure the reasoning behind 18 (in the US anyways) but I think that age is too young.
"adult" is a label—this is meaningless without stating what exactly the rights and duties that come with being classified... | cnesqc | CMV: Humans should not legally be recognized as "adults" until age 21 | You read that right, I don't think any human should legally be considered an adult until around age 21. I'm not sure the reasoning behind 18 (in the US anyways) but I think that age is too young.
My reasoning: The human brain is still developing at the age of 18, and typically does not finish until age 20-25. More im... | StarShot77 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Most guys would pick a model-like girl over a pretty girl with a girl next door vibe if the model-like girls wasn't out of his league
I know that many guys are attracted to girls with a girl next door vibe. Some guys even say they would rather go for a girl with a girl next door vibe than a model-like girl. Howev... | As a person married for a bit of time I’ll tell you that attraction is important, but if you want to remain intellectually stimulated and have a great life you better pick someone primarily who is compatible with you when it comes to all the other stuff.
If you love the outdoors and want to explore the wilderness and... | Do you think Bill Gates couldn't date a supermodel when he was the youngest billionaire on the planet? Do you think Zuckerberg couldn't have married a supermodel?
If anything, choice maximizes the chances you'll date _who you want to date_, rather then someone who fits a mold that will impress others but isn't actua... | 89rb9g | CMV: Most guys would pick a model-like girl over a pretty girl with a girl next door vibe if the model-like girls wasn't out of his league | I know that many guys are attracted to girls with a girl next door vibe. Some guys even say they would rather go for a girl with a girl next door vibe than a model-like girl. However, this often has to do with the guy feeling that the model-like girl is out of his league. In other words, the model-like girl is almost "... | Str30 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Germany shouldn't have a military force on the account of two World wars.
A country that went to war against the whole world not once but twice should not have a functioning military.
Sure people can change, but since most countries place restrictions on serious convicts for the rest of their lives doesn't it m... | Why stop at a military it sounds like you think they shouldn’t even be a country due to the sins of people 80 years ago. The United stated decimated 2 Japanese cities with nukes killing many civilians, you think the U.S. shouldn’t have nukes ?
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In neither WWI or WWII was Germany fighting alone against the world. If that were truly the case in both world wars they would have been defeated so much more quickly. Additionally any quick internet search could disprove the idea that they were alone.
After WWI, nations trie... | ztxdi1 | CMV: Germany shouldn't have a military force on the account of two World wars. | A country that went to war against the whole world not once but twice should not have a functioning military.
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CMV: Being nice or doing nice things around the holidays doesn’t make you a good person
Scrooge actually made a good point. Why are people so overly nice and giving around the holidays but otherwise antisocial assholes? Why are we expected to be overly nice to each other at a specific time of year but at any other tim... | Habits are built over time and need to be maintained.
A month or so of forcing yourself to be (more) cheerful and friendly (than usual) is a month training yourself to be less of a selfish asshole, and that *does* bleed through to the rest of the year.
Why not do it all year round? Who says they aren't? Imagine how... | I think Christmas tends to bring out more of whatever kind of person someone already is to begin with. If you're basically a cynical and stingy "Scrooge" it's going to get under your skin and you'll probably see it as disingenuous. That was the whole point of that story.
That the spirit of Christmas wasn't something ... | ztqt5r | CMV: Being nice or doing nice things around the holidays doesn’t make you a good person | Scrooge actually made a good point. Why are people so overly nice and giving around the holidays but otherwise antisocial assholes? Why are we expected to be overly nice to each other at a specific time of year but at any other time we just hate our fellow human?
I’m not saying everyone is an anti-social a-hole that h... | godzilla55013 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The logic behind trade tariffs is fundamentally flawed and are damaging to economies in the long run.
The news coming out saying we(U.S.) is considering placing tariffs on steel and aluminum imports is what lead me to post this.
I view tariffs as being damaging to economies in the long run, despite the short ter... | I understand specialization and all that, but that's not really the issue. In China, many large businesses have very strong ties to the government. If need be, they can receive government subsidies to bolster their income.
Now lets say there's 2 steel manufacturers in China and 2 in the US. That's all there are in th... | I don't know if you know the history of tarrafs in this country. The taraf used to be a major political issue, and a popular one. We had less developed industries then mainly England but also other parts of western Europe, so we slapped tarafs on everything to protect our industries, and jobs.Jobs is the key. What we w... | 81fggi | CMV: The logic behind trade tariffs is fundamentally flawed and are damaging to economies in the long run. | The news coming out saying we(U.S.) is considering placing tariffs on steel and aluminum imports is what lead me to post this.
I view tariffs as being damaging to economies in the long run, despite the short term and targeted benefits that may be realized.
They encourage the inefficient allocation of resources withi... | Startled77 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The call on the field should hold no weight for instant replays
If you've watched NFL or NCAA football in the last few years, you'll notice the most common outcome is "play stands". They didn't confirm the call, but they couldn't overturn it either. This is the wrong approach.
Are we really pretending that wha... | >Are we really pretending that what an official saw from one angle, once, at high speed and in the heat of the moment should be given so much weight that it has to be disproved?
Yes. But we're not pretending. I have seen many plays where the camera angles were obstructed by players on the field. Football is a sport w... | > Only when the replay doesn't contain enough evidence, like the view of the feet coming down is obscured, should the call "stand".
I feel like you undercut your own view here. This is exactly what the rule is. If the replay footage conclusively shows that the call was wrong, it gets changed. If the camera footage can... | 7li6yn | CMV: The call on the field should hold no weight for instant replays | If you've watched NFL or NCAA football in the last few years, you'll notice the most common outcome is "play stands". They didn't confirm the call, but they couldn't overturn it either. This is the wrong approach.
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CMV: Going to college is not a waste of money if you know what to do with your degree
I see a lot of people saying going to college is a waste of time and money unless itself STEM. And some people will even argue that this is true even for STEM.
Now let’s take an example of a non-stem degree - art history. Person A a... | Are you talking in general or specifically about American colleges? Because I don't think Canadian or European colleges are a waste of money regardless because Education is a valuable asset to have that improves and enriches your life, even if it doesn't lead directly to employment. The problem is that American college... | Because of American pop culture where "you go to college to party and find yourself" and Boomer parents telling us "You can be anything you want to be." People don't treat it as the business decision it should be. Add to that way to many people go to get degrees that don't get you a job.
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Thanks! I wonder how did ... | 1ivauar | CMV: Going to college is not a waste of money if you know what to do with your degree | I see a lot of people saying going to college is a waste of time and money unless itself STEM. And some people will even argue that this is true even for STEM.
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CMV: The United States will Fall to Autocracy Under Donald Trump
Donald Trump is once again the sitting President of the United States, and the most probable trajectory for the country—given current observable events and institutional behavior—is a **descent into autocracy,** likely irreversible by conventional democr... | Idk, trumps support isn’t exactly getting stronger. He looks more & more like the moron he is every time he opens his mouth or does something impulsive. I can see it getting scary at some point but he’s don’t all this in just a few months. I think it’s more likely he ends up impeached than an autocratic leader.
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One, Trump is old. He's 78-years-old. Even if he finds a mechanism that allows for a third-term (which is already a big if) by 2028 he will be 82. While he has no major health conditions that the public knows about, lots ... | 1kcfoyf | CMV: The United States will Fall to Autocracy Under Donald Trump | Donald Trump is once again the sitting President of the United States, and the most probable trajectory for the country—given current observable events and institutional behavior—is a **descent into autocracy,** likely irreversible by conventional democratic means. This is no longer theoretical. It is already unfolding... | TheMidnightHandyman | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is nothing morally or ethically wrong with consensual gladiatorial combat.
This is not a meme. I am 100% serious. I unironically want to bring back the duel.
I do not believe there to be anything wrong with two consenting adults agreeing to duel each other to the death. Nor do I think there is equally anyt... | Problem is, how do you keep the poor from being exploited?
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I'm not saying this is right, but I could be really callous here and play devil's advocate.
Consider this:
Either they die - which means they are no longer exploited because they're dead and free from this mortal coil.
Or they live, and get stronger. S... | So I'm confused, if it isn't necessarily with weapons or to the death, how is your proposal any different than current MMA tournaments? Those things get pretty damn bloody, example:
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Like I said, I'm in favour of all bloodsport. All of them. That includes both weapons and bare knuckl... | m6nlsz | CMV: There is nothing morally or ethically wrong with consensual gladiatorial combat. | This is not a meme. I am 100% serious. I unironically want to bring back the duel.
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CMV: Election habits of USA I find unjust and undemocratic.
**Wait Before you leave** I know tihs article seems long but you don't have to read entire thing just pick one of the sections and debate about it.
Hello, I'm debater from Finland and I have found few peculiarities and entire mistakes in USA election syste... | > At first I thought this must be done only once, when citizen becomes 18-year-old, but it seems that for every election in every year citizens must first line up for registration and then line up to vote.
There may well be places where it works this way, but where I live (Michigan), it works more like the way you'd e... | Voter Registration in and of itself is neither unjust nor undemocratic. But certain states/localities have tried to make registration more difficult which has a disparate impact on the poor.
Alternative voting schemes have their merits but that in no way means FPTP is unjust or undemocratic.
EC is anti-democratic bu... | 89z2i0 | CMV: Election habits of USA I find unjust and undemocratic. | **Wait Before you leave** I know tihs article seems long but you don't have to read entire thing just pick one of the sections and debate about it.
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CMV: Election habits of USA I find unjust and undemocratic.
**Wait Before you leave** I know tihs article seems long but you don't have to read entire thing just pick one of the sections and debate about it.
Hello, I'm debater from Finland and I have found few peculiarities and entire mistakes in USA election syste... | >At first I thought this must be done only once, when citizen becomes 18-year-old, but it seems that for every election in every year citizens must first line up for registration and then line up to vote. And If citizen didn't register before deadline they can't vote. Is there some reason for this?
There are some misu... | As long as you don't move, change your name, or go 5 years without voting you don't need to register again in the US. Registering is how the government keeps track of where you are and where you should vote and which races you can vote in. Since not all states require an ID to vote having people register when they move... | 89z2i0 | CMV: Election habits of USA I find unjust and undemocratic. | **Wait Before you leave** I know tihs article seems long but you don't have to read entire thing just pick one of the sections and debate about it.
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Cmv: death penalty should be abolished with no exceptions even for serial killers and terrorists.
I've had this conversation with a bunch of people this past week, and nobody seems to agree with me. I'm open to changing my opinion, but no one has been able to reasonably change my view, so I'm here.
As stated in the t... | You present counterarguments but offer no arguments about why the death penalty should be off the table in the first place.
For example, why does it matter that there are other ways to punish people? Why does it necessarily matter that there is a non-zero chance that an innocent person will be executed?
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Yes, I'd try not to but if I had to yes I would. Killing someone armed, killing a terrorist in a war, killing them in self-defence and situations alike is justifiable but when you execute a prisoner you're killing a defenceless person.
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What if we gave the prisoner a m... | ztbb8t | Cmv: death penalty should be abolished with no exceptions even for serial killers and terrorists. | I've had this conversation with a bunch of people this past week, and nobody seems to agree with me. I'm open to changing my opinion, but no one has been able to reasonably change my view, so I'm here.
As stated in the title, I'm 100% anti-death penalty. It's morally problematic, and there are other ways to punish peo... | friendlypondfrog | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Some cultures are superior to others and that gives reasonable justification for stopping illegal immigration.
I know the title sound's very extreme, so I strongly urge you to actually read my justification before locking my post or commenting hate.
So, I think we all agree that the southern United States during... | The “illegal immigration” move is a tautology. “We should stop illegal immigration” is true by definition, and it does not need a culture-ranking pretext. If your real claim is “we need individual vetting,” that argues for more legal pathways and faster screening, not a blanket cultural ban.
Your risk premise is also ... | What would change your view?
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If you demonstrate how my premises/one of my premises are incorrect
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For points 1 and 2 of the formalization:
The most basic bias shown here is the pick and choose.. you're picking singular aspects of a culture then extrapolating singular aspects to convey the whole.. i.e US cul... | 1n7bb0c | CMV: Some cultures are superior to others and that gives reasonable justification for stopping illegal immigration. | I know the title sound's very extreme, so I strongly urge you to actually read my justification before locking my post or commenting hate.
So, I think we all agree that the southern United States during the 1850's to 1860's was among the most immoral places in world history due to it's appalling practices regarding sl... | Handwerksgilde | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Mr Beast's prizes are fake
Over the weekend the YouTube algorithm recommended I watch this video:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxYjTTXc-J8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxYjTTXc-J8)
The premise is that one hundred people are put in a circle and the last to leave will be awarded half a million dollars. Th... | His views on YouTube are insane, he earns a lot through that. He also has multiple channel.
His merch sells well, he also sells burger now.
I find it reasonable that he has the money to finance those videos, and he mentions regularly that he reinvests nearly all his earnings into new videos.
I might be naive but I'd ... | From the Coinbase [website](https://www.coinbase.com/sweepstakes/mrbeast-terms):
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxYjTTXc-J8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxYjTTXc-J8)
The premise is that one hundred people are put in a circle and the last to leave will be awarded half a million dollars. Throughout the video the contestant... | Subtleiaint | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: guns are not the main cause of the US’s current events, and guns are necessary in a free society
Countries other than the US have freedom to own guns, yet our situation is a uniquely American problem. I find it more likely that our nightmarishly has school systems and bad approach to mental health is much more li... | >Countries other than the US have freedom to own guns, yet our situation is a uniquely American problem
The US is home to almost half of all civiliy owned guns world wide. The laxity of USgun laws is also utterly unique, so that argument falls short.
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Yes, the us has the highest number of guns per capita, but if ... | I disagree, society has lost its ability to fight tyranny, simply due to the advancement of military technology.
The second ammendment was written a long time ago, and you guys have never changed it, even though the weapons the ammendment spoke of, have been advanced so far that the ability to kill 8 people can be hid... | cn8bvi | CMV: guns are not the main cause of the US’s current events, and guns are necessary in a free society | Countries other than the US have freedom to own guns, yet our situation is a uniquely American problem. I find it more likely that our nightmarishly has school systems and bad approach to mental health is much more likely a cause, as it more unique to the United States. As to our attitudes towards guns, the second amen... | bladeofarceus | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Quality CAN be objectively measured.
I am a firm believer that you are open to like whatever you want, obviously you're free to do so. However, I think too many people believe that this is an excuse to dismiss any criticisms of what others may perceive as "low quality" works of art. I believe that no matter what ... | >quality is much more of a concrete (objective) concept than people think, even if you don't personally enjoy these quality works.
Quality can be measured relative to two things, just like preference can. However, it's not objective. Not unless you have preset measuring criteria. Like if you said "the goal of the song... | Suppose that you are right, and that there is an abstract property out there in the world called quality, and it can be objectively measured. This raises the question: how do we know anything about it? How do we know that what we think of as quality _is quality_, and not something else?
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The same way we know anyth... | 7l68bp | CMV: Quality CAN be objectively measured. | I am a firm believer that you are open to like whatever you want, obviously you're free to do so. However, I think too many people believe that this is an excuse to dismiss any criticisms of what others may perceive as "low quality" works of art. I believe that no matter what the medium is, from music to movies to vide... | Jack_Ryker | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Some psychiatric drugs should be legalised (be allowed to buy over the counter) to receive without a prescription.
*I am open to listening to different opinions and why this isn’t a good idea.*
**I believe that some psychiatric drugs should be allowed to be bought by any person in the pharmacy, with no prescripti... | Benzodiazepines are extremely dangerous - arguably the most dangerous drug. Cold turkey withdrawal from heavy use is frequently fatal, and the transition from constrained use to heavy use can happen quite rapidly. That is to say nothing of blacked-out driving, inhibition loss, etc. This is the primary class of drugs us... | The problem is a lot of the medications like benzos and amphetamine are addictive or can be abused. The system that you are proposing to use so that they can only get 1 month at a time is already in place, it’s called a prescription from your physician.
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**I believe that some psychiatric drugs should be allowed to be bought by any person in the pharmacy, with no prescription.**
I don’t mean very serious drugs but things like anti-anxiety, anti-depression and anti-ADD.
I think that these dru... | SoftCatsMeow | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Genetically-modified foods are a scientific revolution that will change the world for better. They pose no harm to human health or the environment.
The use of genetically-modified organisms (GMOs) will reduce global hunger and make it easier to consume affordable, nutritious foods. Climate change is depleting the... | I mean to an extent there is some genetic modification that can be good. Bigger crops and the like.
But most frequently we see genetic modification to be able to survive herbicides and pesticides.
So crops can be completely drenched in these chemicals and be fine.
That's the correlation that's most troubling to me. ... | Change the world? Yes.
For better? Not necessarily.
85% of all corn in the US is GMO. The primary human-consumption use for corn in the US is high fructose corn syrup. That shit is in everything, which increases how many calories people eat. Which contributes to obesity.
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CMV: The United States Army should be dissolved
The Army is the most funded branch of the United States military in the most recent years and easily has the most personnel of the Armed Forces branches. While they produce significant technological developments for the Department of Defense, the innovation could easily ... | Too much land in the states to be protected by a small military forces. Each branch serves a different but vital function. The Navy has its Marines and the Army has its Air Force. The Coast Guard provides coastal support to our country. The guard provides support to our states. A lot of our military branches are alread... | You mention the near future in your post but not 50, 75, or 100 years in the future. The US Army as it exists benefits from centuries off institutional experience and memory. What if a World War breaks out 75 years after the Army is dissolved? Maybe we don’t have enough technology to replace an old fashioned massive s... | piqs4e | CMV: The United States Army should be dissolved | The Army is the most funded branch of the United States military in the most recent years and easily has the most personnel of the Armed Forces branches. While they produce significant technological developments for the Department of Defense, the innovation could easily arise from specializations of the other branches ... | Himmelsbrecher | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The United States Army should be dissolved
The Army is the most funded branch of the United States military in the most recent years and easily has the most personnel of the Armed Forces branches. While they produce significant technological developments for the Department of Defense, the innovation could easily ... | how would united states defend itself from military attack
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We have the Coast Guard, Army National Guard, Air National Guard, and several Missile Defense Systems operated by multiple branches. The missile defense systems are currently not modernized and could definitely utilize the funding the Army receives for it... | You mention the near future in your post but not 50, 75, or 100 years in the future. The US Army as it exists benefits from centuries off institutional experience and memory. What if a World War breaks out 75 years after the Army is dissolved? Maybe we don’t have enough technology to replace an old fashioned massive s... | piqs4e | CMV: The United States Army should be dissolved | The Army is the most funded branch of the United States military in the most recent years and easily has the most personnel of the Armed Forces branches. While they produce significant technological developments for the Department of Defense, the innovation could easily arise from specializations of the other branches ... | Himmelsbrecher | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There is no objective distinction between sect and religion.
Take a cult at a given moment, can you say it is a religion or a sect?
Obviously no one will recognize itself as a sect, so it's the judgement of other that will determine it. But everyone will have different opinion that are all biased so there is no... | You sound like a French speaker. In French, the word “sect” indicates what in English we call a “cult.”
In English, a sect is an offshoot of a religious group. Keep in mind we have a much more complex religious landscape, as well.
A cult is characterized by total control of a person’s life and reliance on a charismat... | >How could you possibly draw a line
By going off of any of the lines drawn from scholarship on cults:
[According to the Cult Education Institute, there are specific warning signs to look out for when considering whether a group might be a cult. Cults are characterized by](https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-a-cult-5... | 1kc7yfb | CMV: There is no objective distinction between sect and religion. | Take a cult at a given moment, can you say it is a religion or a sect?
Obviously no one will recognize itself as a sect, so it's the judgement of other that will determine it. But everyone will have different opinion that are all biased so there is no real answer.
How could you possibly draw a line, and where? What ... | Mofane | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Regardless of political leanings we should all want to limit the money being spent on elections.
Hello all, I have a few ideas on how to accomplish the goal of reducing the money spent on elections and I believe everyone, regardless of political affiliations should want the same thing.
First, reduce the limit of... | It's not just tough considering the CU decision, it's impossible, and for what I consider good reason, because I completely agree with their interpretation.
Consider a cause that you strongly support. For example purposes, let's say that you really want to see Miami Beach designated as a protected wildlife refuge. ... | Why should I want to limit the money being spent on elections?
I just don't have a lot of time between owning a business, owning a home, being married, and being a parent. What I lack in time I more than make up for in disposable income. Going out to places like Iowa and New Hampshire to campaign was a lot of fun wh... | 7bfxyu | CMV: Regardless of political leanings we should all want to limit the money being spent on elections. | Hello all, I have a few ideas on how to accomplish the goal of reducing the money spent on elections and I believe everyone, regardless of political affiliations should want the same thing.
First, reduce the limit of individual contributions to $1000 per candidate and limit the individuals allowed to donate to those l... | johnly81 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: the FDA should loosen restrictions on dietary allergens
Right now many bakers are adding sesame to their products - for example Olive Garden is currently retooling its breadsticks to add a trace amount of sesame flour. Why? Because the FDA is adding sesame to the list of major allergens. As a result, if they d... | Why should the FDA do anything? Surely your view ought to be that food producers shouldn't be using loopholes to avoid fulfilling dietary requirements!
It seems an odd move too, its not like they put a bit of shellfish in everything to cover their bases so they don't need to avoid contamination with that.
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Totall... | it is just not realistic for a big company like olive garden to ensure that level of safety on the staff level.
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it isnt... in this case the higher ups are making the right choice, do you think that entry level staff can be trusted to abide by these saf... | zstls0 | CMV: the FDA should loosen restrictions on dietary allergens | Right now many bakers are adding sesame to their products - for example Olive Garden is currently retooling its breadsticks to add a trace amount of sesame flour. Why? Because the FDA is adding sesame to the list of major allergens. As a result, if they don't have sesame as an ingredient they have to take onerous pr... | LentilDrink | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Corporate Advancement isn't about merit. And there's no solution to this problem.
I've seen it first hand through my long, hard slog in the corporate trenches. And many other decent folk who got shafted along with me. You want to know what you'll find when you stroll into most offices? A bunch of half-wits gettin... | You have to realize that the job isn't that difficult and a lot of people can do it, so what ultimately makes people stand out is who they know. If you have 15 people capable of doing the job to a satisfactory degree, you'll want to bring in the person who you want to work with.
But also - know how to properly value ... | Not in my case
I started my career as analytic data engineer, went thru several promotions to Sr Data Scientist, and finally reached Director of Productions 2 years ago.
To get a promotion, you need to work hard. Most people think this is a BS statement because they dont know what working hard actually means.
During... | 1n6tofk | CMV: Corporate Advancement isn't about merit. And there's no solution to this problem. | I've seen it first hand through my long, hard slog in the corporate trenches. And many other decent folk who got shafted along with me. You want to know what you'll find when you stroll into most offices? A bunch of half-wits getting promoted while the real talents get screwed over. If not all the time, at least in a v... | DevelopmentPlus7850 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Mandatory public education should be abolished.
From my first day in preschool to my last day of leaving the hellhole that was my highschool, I have always believed that the school system was no place a kid should be. Here's why:
School is a prison-like atmosphere. From the authoritarian teachers and principals ... | Do t you want your fellow citizens to be able to read?
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A school system is not required for people to be able to learn how to read. Just decent parenting.
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This is just simply false.
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No it's not. Most grown adults can teach children how to read. Unless of course the adult happens to be illiterate thems... | This post is less of a thesis against the concept of educating our society, and more a rant about the bad time that you had in high school and the general flaws of our education system as it stands.
Why do you want to throw the baby out with the bathwater? Surely you know "just be a good parent" is a nonsense directi... | 1c78mgq | CMV: Mandatory public education should be abolished. | From my first day in preschool to my last day of leaving the hellhole that was my highschool, I have always believed that the school system was no place a kid should be. Here's why:
School is a prison-like atmosphere. From the authoritarian teachers and principals acting like corrupt wardens and prison guards, to your... | Late_Replacement_983 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: You are never able to do anything other than what you want.
This point is typically associated with the argument that there is no such thing as free will. It has a long philosophical history from Thomas Hobbes to Sam Harris. But generally it comes off as a statement about the ubiquitousness of personal responsi... | What about people with tourettes that say things that they don't think or feel are true and have described it as having no control in what they say.
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This supports the argument - you don’t want to do that thing because of what happens from doing that thing
a consequence is factored into will | pin2sp | CMV: You are never able to do anything other than what you want. | This point is typically associated with the argument that there is no such thing as free will. It has a long philosophical history from Thomas Hobbes to Sam Harris. But generally it comes off as a statement about the ubiquitousness of personal responsibility. It can engender a lot of negative reaction so let me clar... | thornysticks | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: denouncing protests based on violence or lawbreaking is a copout
This is something I have thought a lot about, watching the BLM protests in the USA and the Truckers anti-vaccine mandate protests in Ottawa, Canada over the past few years. There are more examples but those two are particularly interesting because o... | I don't think critics are arguing with the statement that "black lifes matter". They are saying that the overall movement is causing trouble and not the best way to create positive change. Most of them still agree with the message behind the movement but feel that movement itself is causing more harm.
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In my exper... | Large groups of people under one banner are actually many individuals all with their own way they want to achieve things.
Do you think one person who thorns a brick while 99 others march peacefully should not be condemned? Should there be consequences?
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If only one person fires a gun at the British at Lexington, ... | zst28p | CMV: denouncing protests based on violence or lawbreaking is a copout | This is something I have thought a lot about, watching the BLM protests in the USA and the Truckers anti-vaccine mandate protests in Ottawa, Canada over the past few years. There are more examples but those two are particularly interesting because one represents more leftist ideology and the other more right wing ideol... | mattl3791 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There are only two genders
I study English Language and one teacher introduced a lesson by defining the terms sex and gender. She stated that sex refers to our 'bits' whereas gender is what we choose to identify ourselves as. I argued firstly that she was wrong and secondly that she shouldn't be teaching it but ... | Okay here's the thing, most of what you're saying everyone can agree with. It's factual, it's rational, and it's not controversial. However, what I'm going to try my best to do here is point to different conclusions that your train of thought could lead. You argue from a point that in pre-modern society that strength o... | Sex is having a vagina. Gender is wearing a pink dress.
Why a dress? Why pink? These are arbitrary rules that society agreed to. What is it about dresses and pinkness that is biologically female? Nothing.
In a world of guns, having big muscles doesn't matter. Technology and education means we don't have to chain ours... | 7bfujr | CMV: There are only two genders | I study English Language and one teacher introduced a lesson by defining the terms sex and gender. She stated that sex refers to our 'bits' whereas gender is what we choose to identify ourselves as. I argued firstly that she was wrong and secondly that she shouldn't be teaching it but ultimately couldn't win as I was ... | spainishinquisitian | 3 | 2 | [
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CMV: Most people who say they believe in Heaven do not really believe it
A lot of people claim to believe that "good people" go to Heaven to live in eternal bliss when they die. But as far as I can tell, most people do not ACT as though they believe this.
Nearly everyone agrees that death is a tragedy, a disaster - ... | What is your source that most people believe death is such a terrible thing to experience? You can accept that it's normal to be afraid of dying and to be upset when someone you love dies. What observations are not explained by those two factors?
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The fact that killing is widely considered one of the worst crimes.... | Many people who believe in Heaven also believe in Hell, and some of those further believe in Purgatory. Some of those believe that the bar for getting into heaven is exceptionally high, and that most of us will end up in purgatory or hell upon death.
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That's not the narrative I hear, though. Everyone says "the Hol... | zsn047 | CMV: Most people who say they believe in Heaven do not really believe it | A lot of people claim to believe that "good people" go to Heaven to live in eternal bliss when they die. But as far as I can tell, most people do not ACT as though they believe this.
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CMV: I don’t think there’s going to be a way to fully accommodate the entire LGBTQ community
On an individual basis I can understand the LGBTQ community.
You wanna date/marry someone of the same sex? Sure who cares. You want to identify as a different gender? Doesn’t effect me, you do you. You want to go by a differe... | Do you have any other examples of it being impossible to fully accommodate the LGBT community or did you find one problem that isnt even unsolvable and give up?
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I’m sure there are but I chose this example because it’s the one most people are aware of and the one best able to explain my view
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Sports are a bit... | Can you think of 2 other situations where the LGBT community can't be integrated or is it just sports?
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Sure, but are there any others even one most people wouldn't be aware of? | pim01q | CMV: I don’t think there’s going to be a way to fully accommodate the entire LGBTQ community | On an individual basis I can understand the LGBTQ community.
You wanna date/marry someone of the same sex? Sure who cares. You want to identify as a different gender? Doesn’t effect me, you do you. You want to go by a different pronoun? Ok fine.
But then i can see issues and contradiction start to rise when it comes ... | LongLiveSmoove | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you can't reasonably explain the other side of an argument, you shouldn't have a *strong* opinion on the matter
# Edit: Delta awarded for a slight change of opinion.
It's been well argued that you can't have to understand and explain every different subtle variation of an idea, and it's also been presented as... | I'm not sure. Do I need to know the ideas fueling flat earth conspiracies before I can strongly believe that the earth is not flat? Or can I trust the volumes of research and science?
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I think you can appeal to established foundational opinions. If you have previously formed an opinion on the trustworthiness of th... | What about situations where people are simply removed from reality and their opinion or position is, therefore, not based in reality.
Think about the MAGA cult. If one of them is of the belief that January 6th was a false flag attack by Antifa, there isn't really anything to "understand" in their opinion. It's just ... | zsmtmu | CMV: If you can't reasonably explain the other side of an argument, you shouldn't have a *strong* opinion on the matter | # Edit: Delta awarded for a slight change of opinion.
It's been well argued that you can't have to understand and explain every different subtle variation of an idea, and it's also been presented as feeling wrong that you need to justify opposition to ideas that sound absolutely absurd.
My response to this is that I ... | mxlp | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Women refusing to date short men is incredibly stupid, arbitrary and sabotages their own chances of finding love.
Remade because I messed up the title of the last post. Sorry if this has been posted before, I did search but didn't find a thread with the same viewpoint.
I'm a woman. I spent years on dating apps l... | If heigh contributes - on an uncontrollable, subconscious level - to attractiveness....then of course it isn't arbitrary. I mean it's technically stupid that I like tiny waists and huge tits but no matter how much my superego can contemplate that my id will always crave it. You can't logic your way around what you are ... | Would you say refusing to date people you don’t find attractive for any reason is arbitrary?
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Maybe an argument can be made that my real problem is that the standards of attraction seem arbitrary to me? But I can't get over this particular one, you don't even notice somebody's height if they're sitting or lying do... | pim1s9 | CMV: Women refusing to date short men is incredibly stupid, arbitrary and sabotages their own chances of finding love. | Remade because I messed up the title of the last post. Sorry if this has been posted before, I did search but didn't find a thread with the same viewpoint.
I'm a woman. I spent years on dating apps like tinder and okcupid prior to meeting my current bf 2.5 years ago. And I think any woman who filters men by height is ... | MrsRainey | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Women refusing to date short men is incredibly stupid, arbitrary and sabotages their own chances of finding love.
Remade because I messed up the title of the last post. Sorry if this has been posted before, I did search but didn't find a thread with the same viewpoint.
I'm a woman. I spent years on dating apps l... | If heigh contributes - on an uncontrollable, subconscious level - to attractiveness....then of course it isn't arbitrary. I mean it's technically stupid that I like tiny waists and huge tits but no matter how much my superego can contemplate that my id will always crave it. You can't logic your way around what you are ... | Would you say refusing to date people you don’t find attractive for any reason is arbitrary?
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Maybe an argument can be made that my real problem is that the standards of attraction seem arbitrary to me? But I can't get over this particular one, you don't even notice somebody's height if they're sitting or lying do... | pim1s9 | CMV: Women refusing to date short men is incredibly stupid, arbitrary and sabotages their own chances of finding love. | Remade because I messed up the title of the last post. Sorry if this has been posted before, I did search but didn't find a thread with the same viewpoint.
I'm a woman. I spent years on dating apps like tinder and okcupid prior to meeting my current bf 2.5 years ago. And I think any woman who filters men by height is ... | MrsRainey | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Women refusing to date short men is incredibly stupid, arbitrary and sabotages their own chances of finding love.
Remade because I messed up the title of the last post. Sorry if this has been posted before, I did search but didn't find a thread with the same viewpoint.
I'm a woman. I spent years on dating apps l... | If heigh contributes - on an uncontrollable, subconscious level - to attractiveness....then of course it isn't arbitrary. I mean it's technically stupid that I like tiny waists and huge tits but no matter how much my superego can contemplate that my id will always crave it. You can't logic your way around what you are ... | Would you say refusing to date people you don’t find attractive for any reason is arbitrary?
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Maybe an argument can be made that my real problem is that the standards of attraction seem arbitrary to me? But I can't get over this particular one, you don't even notice somebody's height if they're sitting or lying do... | pim1s9 | CMV: Women refusing to date short men is incredibly stupid, arbitrary and sabotages their own chances of finding love. | Remade because I messed up the title of the last post. Sorry if this has been posted before, I did search but didn't find a thread with the same viewpoint.
I'm a woman. I spent years on dating apps like tinder and okcupid prior to meeting my current bf 2.5 years ago. And I think any woman who filters men by height is ... | MrsRainey | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: piercing your baby's ears before they even learn to talk is a weird practice and it's iffy it's even legal
I know this isn't a pressing issue or anything, but I can't help but low-key judge parents who insist on getting, what for all intents and purposes is a body mod, for their infant daughters. Daughters who so... | I had same thought when I saw my filipino niece had been pierced in the hospital after birth.
It's a cultural thing. My fiance and I had a good conversation and what she said made some sense in that they won't remember the pain at that age.
A good comparison we came up with was circumcision. She was telling me boys... | For reference, do you feel this same way about circumcision on infant boys?
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Absolutely.
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How do you feel about abortion? | zs7juy | CMV: piercing your baby's ears before they even learn to talk is a weird practice and it's iffy it's even legal | I know this isn't a pressing issue or anything, but I can't help but low-key judge parents who insist on getting, what for all intents and purposes is a body mod, for their infant daughters. Daughters who sometimes are barely old enough to hold their own head up.
Piercings are painful. They might ache for a few days a... | JarJarNudes | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Inciting hatred against “privileged white men” will only worsen the issue as it effectively prevents rational discourse
When it comes to discrimination, I keep seeing posts that attempt to raise attention by insulting and mocking the other party. The spectrum goes from insinuation to blatant affront. I believe th... | Lemme tell you a little story about one of my favorite subreddits. /r/SneerClub exists more or less to mock and point fingers at "rationalists". And a big part of this is pointing out that so much of their "rational discourse" is _fundamentally irrational_. That so much of what they talk about is warmed-over bullshit t... | insults and mocking aren't inciting hatred.
Some ideas should be mocked.
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Mocking/insulting someone based on skin colour or simply being born to certain parents is near universally regarded as a dick move.
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Some ideas......
Do you see the part where I talk about ideas? That has nothing to do with race. It... | m65654 | CMV: Inciting hatred against “privileged white men” will only worsen the issue as it effectively prevents rational discourse | When it comes to discrimination, I keep seeing posts that attempt to raise attention by insulting and mocking the other party. The spectrum goes from insinuation to blatant affront. I believe that this is counterproductive and does more harm than bringing about meaningful change and progress. If you negatively stereoty... | IncomprehensibleMess | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Inciting hatred against “privileged white men” will only worsen the issue as it effectively prevents rational discourse
When it comes to discrimination, I keep seeing posts that attempt to raise attention by insulting and mocking the other party. The spectrum goes from insinuation to blatant affront. I believe th... | Lemme tell you a little story about one of my favorite subreddits. /r/SneerClub exists more or less to mock and point fingers at "rationalists". And a big part of this is pointing out that so much of their "rational discourse" is _fundamentally irrational_. That so much of what they talk about is warmed-over bullshit t... | This CMV doesn't really say anything. What kind of mocking are you talking about? What kind of hatred is stirred? What stereotypes are invoked?
I don't really see any of these things happening in any greater quantities anywhere.
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Thats one tweet from one person. This is not "inciting hatred", it'... | m65654 | CMV: Inciting hatred against “privileged white men” will only worsen the issue as it effectively prevents rational discourse | When it comes to discrimination, I keep seeing posts that attempt to raise attention by insulting and mocking the other party. The spectrum goes from insinuation to blatant affront. I believe that this is counterproductive and does more harm than bringing about meaningful change and progress. If you negatively stereoty... | IncomprehensibleMess | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Inciting hatred against “privileged white men” will only worsen the issue as it effectively prevents rational discourse
When it comes to discrimination, I keep seeing posts that attempt to raise attention by insulting and mocking the other party. The spectrum goes from insinuation to blatant affront. I believe th... | Lemme tell you a little story about one of my favorite subreddits. /r/SneerClub exists more or less to mock and point fingers at "rationalists". And a big part of this is pointing out that so much of their "rational discourse" is _fundamentally irrational_. That so much of what they talk about is warmed-over bullshit t... | One tactic of the conservative political movement in the United States is to take up seemingly irrational causes in order to move the general political conversation further to the right and crowd out legitimate left leaning conversation.
If you create enough qanon like insanity then the conversation becomes between ... | m65654 | CMV: Inciting hatred against “privileged white men” will only worsen the issue as it effectively prevents rational discourse | When it comes to discrimination, I keep seeing posts that attempt to raise attention by insulting and mocking the other party. The spectrum goes from insinuation to blatant affront. I believe that this is counterproductive and does more harm than bringing about meaningful change and progress. If you negatively stereoty... | IncomprehensibleMess | 15 | 15 | [
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CMV: Execution sentences should be carried out immediately.
Let me open with this, I believe that one should be sentenced to death only if there is zero doubt that they are guilty of an extremely heinous crime. For example, if there is clear video showing them abducting, raping and murdering children at several differ... | If there’s incontrovertible proof of guilt, it’s very likely the defendant will plea to a lesser charge, and the prosecutor will accept the plea because a court trial is expensive and uncertain. So this wouldn’t happen that often.
But that aside, people have a right to appeal. Who gets to decide if guilt is incontrove... | Isnt most of the waiting because of appeals to make sure they are 100% innocent? Or are you talking about after the final appeals?
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I think the appeals process is too long.
I think that we should raise the bar for what constitutes a death sentence, and then we can significantly lower the time from sentencing to e... | 819pmt | CMV: Execution sentences should be carried out immediately. | Let me open with this, I believe that one should be sentenced to death only if there is zero doubt that they are guilty of an extremely heinous crime. For example, if there is clear video showing them abducting, raping and murdering children at several different instances, they should be executed. I think capital punis... | Anki_gamer | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Execution sentences should be carried out immediately.
Let me open with this, I believe that one should be sentenced to death only if there is zero doubt that they are guilty of an extremely heinous crime. For example, if there is clear video showing them abducting, raping and murdering children at several differ... | If there’s incontrovertible proof of guilt, it’s very likely the defendant will plea to a lesser charge, and the prosecutor will accept the plea because a court trial is expensive and uncertain. So this wouldn’t happen that often.
But that aside, people have a right to appeal. Who gets to decide if guilt is incontrove... | Isnt most of the waiting because of appeals to make sure they are 100% innocent? Or are you talking about after the final appeals?
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I think the appeals process is too long.
I think that we should raise the bar for what constitutes a death sentence, and then we can significantly lower the time from sentencing to e... | 819pmt | CMV: Execution sentences should be carried out immediately. | Let me open with this, I believe that one should be sentenced to death only if there is zero doubt that they are guilty of an extremely heinous crime. For example, if there is clear video showing them abducting, raping and murdering children at several different instances, they should be executed. I think capital punis... | Anki_gamer | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Why do Pro-Choice people suddenly become Pro-Life when it comes to suicide? Pro-Choice philosophy should include suicide.
This is NOT a bait / gotcha post. I am pro-choice and support women's right to abortion 100%. "My body my choice", all the way. As long as someone is not threatening / harming another person b... | It has to do with the fact that many people who are suicidal are going through a temporary crisis. If you allow suicidal people to kill themselves. You are letting people who could have survived with proper treatment die. It's almost like if the Emergency Room decided that they weren't going to cure appendicitis anymor... | in abortion, only one person's getting the abortion, but in most cases of suicide - pretty much all, actually, outside of medical assisted suicide - someone has to deal with the aftermath, which is *insanely* traumatizing
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> someone has to deal with the aftermath, which is insanely traumatizing
that happens when ... | phw48y | CMV: Why do Pro-Choice people suddenly become Pro-Life when it comes to suicide? Pro-Choice philosophy should include suicide. | This is NOT a bait / gotcha post. I am pro-choice and support women's right to abortion 100%. "My body my choice", all the way. As long as someone is not threatening / harming another person by their action, they should be free to do what they please with their body.
Why does that stance fly away when it comes to sui... | iWizardB | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Nuclear Energy is dangerous and should be banned
Multiple points to make:
1st. Mining Uranium is extremely dangerous for the workers and and seriously damages the environment.
2nd. Nuclear energy is non-renewable and we shouldn't waste our time developing nuclear energy if it isn't sustainable. If we adopt it as... | I’m going to focus on some points and skip others (for more knowledgeable people to address).
>2nd. Nuclear energy is non-renewable and we shouldn't waste our time developing nuclear energy if it isn't sustainable. If we adopt it as a main source of energy we will gain a dependence and will be in serious trouble whe... | >1st. Mining Uranium is extremely dangerous for the workers and and seriously damages the environment.
[Outdated information](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_mining). Technology and safety policies have advanced to the point that the concentrations of Radon gas has been reduced to levels similar to that you woul... | 7bexrb | CMV: Nuclear Energy is dangerous and should be banned | Multiple points to make:
1st. Mining Uranium is extremely dangerous for the workers and and seriously damages the environment.
2nd. Nuclear energy is non-renewable and we shouldn't waste our time developing nuclear energy if it isn't sustainable. If we adopt it as a main source of energy we will gain a dependence and ... | 6ithtear | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is validity to the stereotype of the "obnoxious SJW", and people who stand for Social Justice should be aware of this and seek to avoid falling into said stereotype.
In other words, while I agree that the cause for Social Justice is a good one and the right side of things, it's not sufficient for one to be ... | Your view seems to boil down to stereotypes should be avoided when you are X group. What would change your view?
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> What would change your view?
Well, I've had recent experiences that have strongly enforced my perspective on this particular stereotype. Two "very lefty" (as they identified) former friends who also... | [deleted]
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Interesting point, but I'm not just talking about people who are on the front end of protests with megaphones in hand. I mean left-leaning people in general. Anyone whose values align with social justice in anyway.
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Huh? I'm not manipulating you in the slightest, just trying to clar... | zs8ot2 | CMV: There is validity to the stereotype of the "obnoxious SJW", and people who stand for Social Justice should be aware of this and seek to avoid falling into said stereotype. | In other words, while I agree that the cause for Social Justice is a good one and the right side of things, it's not sufficient for one to be in the moral right. You can be fighting for a good cause, and still be the jerk. Being an irrational ideologue, wrongfully calling out and shaming someone, being insufferably sel... | SSaturnis | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Behind every successful man is a woman he loved that went 50/50
We often hear "behind every successful man is a woman," but what really drives lasting success is a woman who stood beside him—who went 50/50 in the grind, the sacrifice, and the ambition. Not just financially, but in spirit, effort, and emotional s... | You know, I’m not sure if I understand what you’re saying. But!! Gay men exist. Bisexual men married to men exist. Single men exist. Loners exist. All of those groups of people can and do become successful
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This dynamic can be applied to any set of genders in a relationship. Can you name a modern successful loner?... | Do you think you can only be successful if you are in a relationship? That success can’t be found independent or from a different network of people?
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It can, but it does not translate to a generational wealth shift if they don't have kids.
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Single people can’t have kids?
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Single people include divorced, ... | 1kbp312 | CMV: Behind every successful man is a woman he loved that went 50/50 |
We often hear "behind every successful man is a woman," but what really drives lasting success is a woman who stood beside him—who went 50/50 in the grind, the sacrifice, and the ambition. Not just financially, but in spirit, effort, and emotional support.
Before women began entering the workforce in large numbers, e... | Kiwi_Kiwi132 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Self-driving cars will greatly impact travel within 15 years.
I didn't know this was a controversial opinion before today. I believe that in urban places, once self driving cars are linked to an Uber or Lyft like service, it will greatly diminish the demand for personal vehicles in those areas.
I commented on a ... | If your core view is that "self-driving cars will impact how we drive", there's not much to argue. Of course it'll have an impact, it's a big deal.
I don't think, however, that it will lead to a windfall of new people not driving. Those people already use Lyft/Uber/taxi/pub trans. I think amongst the people already... | We're going to be slower to adopt the technology than you're hoping. Self-driving cars are expensive as hell, and they're going to continue to be for quite some time. All-electric cars are a big step between us and self-driving cars, and those are JUST now starting to take off in any appreciable way.
The more self... | 7bfe3n | CMV: Self-driving cars will greatly impact travel within 15 years. | I didn't know this was a controversial opinion before today. I believe that in urban places, once self driving cars are linked to an Uber or Lyft like service, it will greatly diminish the demand for personal vehicles in those areas.
I commented on a different thread about this but the arguments against me have been..... | rook218 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There are only two genders
Yeah, I know that it's a meme at this point with the whole Change My Mind thing. But, I still never understood how there are more than two genders. With the exception of a few rare genetic disorders, people are born with either XX or XY chromosomes, which determines their gender. I know... | >With the exception of a few rare genetic disorders, people are born with either XX or XY chromosomes, which determines their gender.
No it doesn't. XX and XY are sex chromosomes; they determine sex. 'Gender' and 'sex' are not synonyms. Sex is entirely physical, gender is entirely non-physical, and largely up to socie... | Gender is just an arbitrary definition. Nothing inherently makes pounding 12 brewskies in a Packers jersey in a parking lot masculine and sipping a cosmo in a dress indoors feminine. For example it is completely normal for men to hold hands in some Middle Eastern cultures while talking. Gender changes like any other so... | 89vsr6 | CMV: There are only two genders | Yeah, I know that it's a meme at this point with the whole Change My Mind thing. But, I still never understood how there are more than two genders. With the exception of a few rare genetic disorders, people are born with either XX or XY chromosomes, which determines their gender. I know that there are people who truly ... | sde380 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: No one NEEDS to have children, and we shouldn't try to force it to happen. [TW: fertility struggles, IVF]
I want to start by saying that I am in no way making light of the hardship of infertility. We've experienced fertility struggles, as have many, many people around us. It's a genuinely traumatic thing. I don't... | I think you mostly have a strawman of why people have kids in your mind. Many happy, fulfilled people decide to have kids. In fact, I'd wager it makes having children even more likely. If you have the bandwidth and free income to support a child, you're more likely to have one.
IVF isn't a fixation. If you can't have ... | > In addition, when people are under the impression that having children is this singular path to fulfillment, and conception doesn't happen for them, they tend to fall into deep depression over their fertility challenges. They fixate on that. They turn to channels like surrogacy and IVF, which tend to be extremely emo... | 1iu82ns | CMV: No one NEEDS to have children, and we shouldn't try to force it to happen. [TW: fertility struggles, IVF] | I want to start by saying that I am in no way making light of the hardship of infertility. We've experienced fertility struggles, as have many, many people around us. It's a genuinely traumatic thing. I don't want to minimize that, but I'm wondering if as a society we've come to an unideal place on this.
Historically,... | PieceOfDatFancyFeast | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Touching the reefs is not inherently morally wrong
Yesterday a lot of people seemed to think touching the reef is ALWAYS morally bad/ethically wrong, and critically damaging to the reefs. My question to those who think it is: When, if ever is it ok? Are the people in the video above wrong for their way of life an... | The reefs are now horrifically endangered. It's not the same as it used to be.
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Thanks for pointing out the world isn’t the same as it used to be, useful insight. But it’s not from people touching the reef with their fingers. I think something called the Industrial Revolution and the addition of around 6 billion m... | This is just an example of Tragedy of the Commons. It's not that there's a problem if any one person safely touches a reef, but if we didn't strongly encourage the masses to avoid doing so, they would be destroyed over time by careless people.
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Agree 100% this is an example of tragedy of the commons, but just beca... | 1g9tvg5 | CMV: Touching the reefs is not inherently morally wrong | Yesterday a lot of people seemed to think touching the reef is ALWAYS morally bad/ethically wrong, and critically damaging to the reefs. My question to those who think it is: When, if ever is it ok? Are the people in the video above wrong for their way of life and touching the reef to hunt?
I don’t know how many peop... | ashcucklord9000 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't think being transgender is natural
I have to say that i have transgender cousins and they know about my oppinion but we never had a really good discussion about it, i don't know if he feels okay talking about it.
I also know the difference between gender and sex, still i dont think it makes any sense, if... | the brain determines if you are male or female, the body you wear usually matches, but not always.
when people wear the wrong body they have surgery to get the right body
thats basically it, just biology not being infallible and sometimes making a mistake
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But that isnt it. That is describing transexual peop... | >I also know the difference between gender and sex, still i dont think it makes any sense, if you are born with a penis you are a male and thats it, in my head it's almost like saying that your parents aren't your parents because you suddently don't feel like it.
No you don't know the difference, you're not able to se... | piivsy | CMV: I don't think being transgender is natural | I have to say that i have transgender cousins and they know about my oppinion but we never had a really good discussion about it, i don't know if he feels okay talking about it.
I also know the difference between gender and sex, still i dont think it makes any sense, if you are born with a penis you are a male and tha... | Cbas8080 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: In order for Xbox to make any kind of real comeback, they need to release a variety of PCs, that are more expensive and powerful than consoles, but still better value than building your own PC or buying other pre-builts
Xbox is doomed if they release another Xbox in the next few years that monetizes games in the ... | You keep dismissing Nintendo as if it was some unknown reason why it's beating Xbox. Price point. They can afford to take a loss on the hardware because they make up for it in game sales. So if your model is followed, Xbox needs to make money from hardware sales which would put it at roughly the same price as a prebuil... | Your headline makes no sense. "For xbox to do good they need to release more expense PCs that are more expensive than consoles"?
Are you saying Xbox branded PCs that some how undercut other pre-builts and building your own?
Are you saying we need xbox branded PCs where where they take a hit just to sale the machi... | 1iu69l4 | CMV: In order for Xbox to make any kind of real comeback, they need to release a variety of PCs, that are more expensive and powerful than consoles, but still better value than building your own PC or buying other pre-builts | Xbox is doomed if they release another Xbox in the next few years that monetizes games in the same way as the Series X and previous Xbox consoles.
The "walled garden" approach has worked well for Playstation and Nintendo (and used to work for Xbox back in the 360 era). This is where Xbox only allows games to be purch... | b00tcamper | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Anybody who speaks about public matters should be rated publicly like an Uber driver
Having a diverse range of reliable sources of information is fundamental to making good decisions. Being able to locate different logical sources of reasoning can help make each of us make better rational decisions.
From persona... | All this is going to result in is a heavily-biased system of its own, without adding any actual information. The problem that you're trying to solve is that you don't know who to trust, but the proposed solution is just going to put you in a situation where other people TELL you who to trust, which really isn't any be... | Doesn't this mean you'd just get the popular opinion, not a measure of truth?
Like if 100,000 people downvote/1 star Bill Nye, it doesn't make what he says true or not true, that's entirely based on what he's saying and if it reflects the current scientific understanding of the world.
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Perhaps, but if you could ... | 7be0gl | CMV: Anybody who speaks about public matters should be rated publicly like an Uber driver | Having a diverse range of reliable sources of information is fundamental to making good decisions. Being able to locate different logical sources of reasoning can help make each of us make better rational decisions.
From personal experience, when I just listen to one voice, I find myself slowly agreeing with everythin... | JakePsychologyHelp | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: A meritocratic capitalist economic system is the best option we have
I don’t believe that any economic system that focuses on giving handouts to those who refuse to work for their keep is beneficial or fair to those who actively contribute to society. My belief is that your yield should be equivalent to the effor... | The best indicator of future wealth in the US is your parents' wealth. That is the opposite of meritocratic.
>My belief is that your yield should be equivalent to the effort you exert.
And you think capitalism does this? How much more effort do you think Elon Musk exerts vs the average worker? At least use some meas... | A meritocratic capitalist economic system is a contradiction in terms. In a meritocracy, power is held by people selected on the basis of their ability. In capitalism, power is held by people on the basis of their capital ownership. These two systems are inherently contradictory, because they disagree about who should ... | zs0dst | CMV: A meritocratic capitalist economic system is the best option we have | I don’t believe that any economic system that focuses on giving handouts to those who refuse to work for their keep is beneficial or fair to those who actively contribute to society. My belief is that your yield should be equivalent to the effort you exert. If you want to do nothing but sit around smoke crack and have ... | cittyofsinners | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: A meritocratic capitalist economic system is the best option we have
I don’t believe that any economic system that focuses on giving handouts to those who refuse to work for their keep is beneficial or fair to those who actively contribute to society. My belief is that your yield should be equivalent to the effor... | So what's the goal here, just to have companies make more money?
>I feel that businesses thrive the most without government interference
Cartoon characters on cigarettes packets to appeal to children, yay or nay?
>At some point we need to let natural selection take it course.
Natural selection selects for populati... | A meritocratic capitalist economic system is a contradiction in terms. In a meritocracy, power is held by people selected on the basis of their ability. In capitalism, power is held by people on the basis of their capital ownership. These two systems are inherently contradictory, because they disagree about who should ... | zs0dst | CMV: A meritocratic capitalist economic system is the best option we have | I don’t believe that any economic system that focuses on giving handouts to those who refuse to work for their keep is beneficial or fair to those who actively contribute to society. My belief is that your yield should be equivalent to the effort you exert. If you want to do nothing but sit around smoke crack and have ... | cittyofsinners | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: biological sex and gender identity are different things, and the latter should never replace the former
I consider myself a progressive person and I have voted for political parties that many people would consider far-left. I'm all in for gay marriage, adoption by gay couples, laws protecting LGTBQ and giving mor... | > There are situations where your biological sex is what matters (sports, restrooms, medical services, imprisonment...),
Can you explain the logic here? For example, a restroom.
In what way do you interact with a toilet that your chromosomes are suddenly of vital importance?
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So for example, a trans woman who wants to travel shou... | zryq5j | CMV: biological sex and gender identity are different things, and the latter should never replace the former | I consider myself a progressive person and I have voted for political parties that many people would consider far-left. I'm all in for gay marriage, adoption by gay couples, laws protecting LGTBQ and giving more visibility to those people. But there is one thing I just don't agree with: people wanting to change their g... | BenderZoidberg | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: biological sex and gender identity are different things, and the latter should never replace the former
I consider myself a progressive person and I have voted for political parties that many people would consider far-left. I'm all in for gay marriage, adoption by gay couples, laws protecting LGTBQ and giving mor... | So what determines biological sex, and how many sexes do you think there are?
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So for example, a trans woman who wants to travel shou... | > There are situations where your biological sex is what matters (sports, restrooms, medical services, imprisonment...),
Can you explain the logic here? For example, a restroom.
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CMV: biological sex and gender identity are different things, and the latter should never replace the former
I consider myself a progressive person and I have voted for political parties that many people would consider far-left. I'm all in for gay marriage, adoption by gay couples, laws protecting LGTBQ and giving mor... | To be clear, since this is different from a lot of what I see on here:
1) You *are* saying that biological sex can be altered (eg through hormonal and surgical transition)
2) You *are* saying that people should be able to change their legally-documented sex if they've taken these steps to transition
I just want to m... | The problem is that with the amount of prejudice in our society this will get trans people outed and killed. Every time someone who looks like a woman has to take out ID that shows them as male, they're having to out themselves. There are a lot of bigoted people in society. Trans women in particular are victims of hate... | zryq5j | CMV: biological sex and gender identity are different things, and the latter should never replace the former | I consider myself a progressive person and I have voted for political parties that many people would consider far-left. I'm all in for gay marriage, adoption by gay couples, laws protecting LGTBQ and giving more visibility to those people. But there is one thing I just don't agree with: people wanting to change their g... | BenderZoidberg | 3 | 3 | [
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I consider myself a progressive person and I have voted for political parties that many people would consider far-left. I'm all in for gay marriage, adoption by gay couples, laws protecting LGTBQ and giving mor... | I think you are correct but it bothers me that you are correct only under the terms that our system is archaic.
Our biology is the buisness of doctors, why do we even have identification descriptors, that we as normal citizens even see? I can't recall my blood type. That's the doctors job.
Olympics is also an archaic... | But isn't gender identity synonymous with gender disphoria? We keep seeing post op gender transitions suing medical practices after physiological treatment
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>But isn't gender identity synonymous with gender disphoria?
No? They're different things. You can look it up on Wikipedia to learn more.
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CMV: McDonald's removing it's mascot characters and making it's buildings less fun and more bland is a very good thing.
I've seen people online complain that McDonald's restaurants have gotten significantly more bland, changing their restaurants to be sterile and grey. These people also state that they should return t... | I feel like “visually interesting” kinda gets lumped into “appeals to children” because NO ONE (kid or adult) is attracted to eating in a bland office.
Which seems to be what everything is striving for. Like, I don’t think the current Cracker Barrel is *designed* to appeal specifically to children but they’d find it m... | Does that really make any sense? Kids are pretty dumb, sure, but I've never known a kid so incredibly dumb that they would not want fries and chicken nuggets simply because they didn't come out of a building with clashing bright colors
%100 these corporations have marketing data that plainly shows that the rebranding... | 1n6bsc3 | CMV: McDonald's removing it's mascot characters and making it's buildings less fun and more bland is a very good thing. | I've seen people online complain that McDonald's restaurants have gotten significantly more bland, changing their restaurants to be sterile and grey. These people also state that they should return to the more fun, colorful branding they had in the past, using old mascot characters and making their buildings not just g... | AutumnRCS | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the Democratic Party isn’t up for this
For context, I’ve been politically active my whole life in the US and have pretty much always been a democrat, volunteered for campaigns, flew to Nevada for this election, etc.
It pains me to say it, but the party isn’t up for the task of dealing with what’s happening righ... | >Here are the main points: 1- they don’t know how to get media attention 2- they have no actual plan to resist the trump administration 3- they have no clear articulate message for what they stand for, leaving a vacuum for maga to fill it in for them.
I fully agree with the "Do something!" reaction to the current Demo... | They don't know how to get media attention? Could it be the media just isn't allowing it? Like think about who owns most all the major media now in America..do you think they are trying to fuel the second rising of a more progressive Obama like figure for the Left?
Absolutely not. The media is complicit with the rise ... | 1iu4qpq | CMV: the Democratic Party isn’t up for this | For context, I’ve been politically active my whole life in the US and have pretty much always been a democrat, volunteered for campaigns, flew to Nevada for this election, etc.
It pains me to say it, but the party isn’t up for the task of dealing with what’s happening right now and is essentially a failed party, in n... | Pokoparis | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Paper ballots are the most secure method of voting in a free society.
EDIT 1: /u/Huntingmoa provided a small change in my perspective, regarding those with disabilities. A vote could be cast using a braille template, though I understand the implementation of these is being criticized by blind people, after I did ... | All of your points can be mitigated or eliminated with better design and operation.
> The can be hacked in minutes because of weak passwords, even including using *default passwords like "admin" and "abcde" to secure their records;
Require complex passwords and multi-factor authentication. Possibly even require two (... | I assume you would be ok in machines that increase accessibility (like an aural ballot for the vision impaired), so long as they weren't widespread?
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I don't know that a machine would be necessary for accessibility. Why do you think that it would have to necessarily be a machine, and not pen and paper?
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I was... | 7bdn75 | CMV: Paper ballots are the most secure method of voting in a free society. | EDIT 1: /u/Huntingmoa provided a small change in my perspective, regarding those with disabilities. A vote could be cast using a braille template, though I understand the implementation of these is being criticized by blind people, after I did some reading after this comment. I did not think of this problem, though, so... | Physics-is-Phun | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: "Schuldig hulpverzuim" should be a crime in every (western) country
In Belgium it's a crime to not render aid to a person in need, this is known as "[Schuldig hulpverzuim](https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuldig_verzuim_(Belgi%C3%AB))" (wiki article in Dutch only).
The translated law text:
> With imprisonment ... | The problem with having to aid a person in need is that in most scenarios the bystander incurs risk in helping.
Thus how much help ‘should’ be given turns into a subjective assessment and really hard to codify.
For example, if a person is drowning it’s pretty well established that a flailing human risks pushing dow... | In America, that can get you sued - call 911
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any examples of this happening?
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[removed] | zrrr5r | CMV: "Schuldig hulpverzuim" should be a crime in every (western) country | In Belgium it's a crime to not render aid to a person in need, this is known as "[Schuldig hulpverzuim](https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuldig_verzuim_(Belgi%C3%AB))" (wiki article in Dutch only).
The translated law text:
> With imprisonment from eight days to one year and with fine from fifty euros to five hundred... | Finch20 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It is misleading / there is no point in making the toy section of the store gender neutral since toy preferences are rooted in biology
a) Sex differences in rhesus monkey toy preferences parallel those of children
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583786/
b) Stereotypical toy preferences were found ... | You're saying there is no point, but what if there is some *other* point to it?
Maybe a group of children would be happier if the toys they wanted weren't in the "girls section" or "boys section." A boy who wants to play with those little foods with big eyes or a girl that wants to play with Star Wars Legos would feel... | I don't think your sources actually prove the points that you think they do. You just found three articles with headlines that discuss gender preference in toys but can you quote where the studies actually conclude that gender preference is biological and not social from those studies?
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Yeah I was feeling kind of... | 89tfat | CMV: It is misleading / there is no point in making the toy section of the store gender neutral since toy preferences are rooted in biology | a) Sex differences in rhesus monkey toy preferences parallel those of children
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583786/
b) Stereotypical toy preferences were found for boys and girls in each of the age groups, demonstrating that sex differences in toy preference appear early in development.
https://onli... | ijrjtpk | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Net worth should be capped at $1B
**Trigger warning: snark ahead. and much sass. possibly grammar errors.**
Edit 2: getting a lot of pushback on how hard it would be to implement this idea and while those details would be relevant to actual policy, these points are detracting from the idea itself, especially sin... | It doesn't work because the net worth of billionaires isn't tied to things like cash and salary: it has to do with stock prices. Forcing founders to sell off their stock as they hit $1 billion would have catastrophic consequences for businesses and the stock market. And before you say "boo hoo," keep in mind that's whe... | You probably want to peg that to inflation at least.
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Δ Ah, good point, the cutoff and fines should increase with the inflation rate.
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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/nintendoeats ([1∆](/r/changemyview/wiki/user/nintendoeats)).
^[Delta System Explained](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/deltasystem... | zrp9wm | CMV: Net worth should be capped at $1B | **Trigger warning: snark ahead. and much sass. possibly grammar errors.**
Edit 2: getting a lot of pushback on how hard it would be to implement this idea and while those details would be relevant to actual policy, these points are detracting from the idea itself, especially since other countries already figured out h... | playsmartz | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Net worth should be capped at $1B
**Trigger warning: snark ahead. and much sass. possibly grammar errors.**
Edit 2: getting a lot of pushback on how hard it would be to implement this idea and while those details would be relevant to actual policy, these points are detracting from the idea itself, especially sin... | It doesn't work because the net worth of billionaires isn't tied to things like cash and salary: it has to do with stock prices. Forcing founders to sell off their stock as they hit $1 billion would have catastrophic consequences for businesses and the stock market. And before you say "boo hoo," keep in mind that's whe... | I assume companies would be excluded? Billionaires would simply run their daily lives through a corp/trust to hold their +1B wealth. These are private and could be held on paper by other individuals (think Shell companies).
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>I assume companies would be excluded?
Not necessarily. I'm open to expanding the policy,... | zrp9wm | CMV: Net worth should be capped at $1B | **Trigger warning: snark ahead. and much sass. possibly grammar errors.**
Edit 2: getting a lot of pushback on how hard it would be to implement this idea and while those details would be relevant to actual policy, these points are detracting from the idea itself, especially since other countries already figured out h... | playsmartz | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: the anthropocene extinction is worsening no matter who is "in power"
CMV: Harris or Trump, Democrat or Republican, Communist or Fascist, etc, etc, climate change will keep worsening the trajectory of the current anthropocene extinction that is taking place because no one is being honest about stopping oil and fos... | Every relevant policy i can think of Biden was better than Trump on.
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I don't disagree, but what I'm saying is that its such a marginal degree of "better" that from natures perspective, it doesn't matter, it's irrelevant to the feedback loops that have begun.
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Counter POV: Biden might have acted as precedent ... | If you look at the numbers we’re beating climate change surely but slowly. At the end of the day what matters is money not politics, and renewable energy is competitive with fossil fuels now
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It's not really possible to beat climate change slowly, because what matters for the purposes of climate change is how much... | 1kbhhe1 | CMV: the anthropocene extinction is worsening no matter who is "in power" | CMV: Harris or Trump, Democrat or Republican, Communist or Fascist, etc, etc, climate change will keep worsening the trajectory of the current anthropocene extinction that is taking place because no one is being honest about stopping oil and fossil fuels and their emissions. It's "drill baby drill" on "both sides of th... | muckrarer | 3 | 3 | [
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