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CMV: Tips at buffets should be smaller than at traditional restaurants.
I think it is okay to tip smaller at buffets vs sit down restaurants. The reason is servers don't do as much for patrons at buffets. Also, I dont know this for sure but would assume that servers can take care of more tables. I understand the reaso... | I agree however if you are at the buffet for a long time, I would leave a decent tip because your table could have been flipped in that time and used again.
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I probably should have explicitly stated all things are relatively equal. Same time spent there, similar quality restaurant etc. I definitely wouldn't say t... | In general, for lunch/breakfast, a server at a traditional restaurant is only required to visit a table for two things a buffet server is not; one to take the order and one to bring food. Maybe three depending on if the guest pays with card and the server has to process it. The amount of time a server has to visit for... | as2rtp | CMV: Tips at buffets should be smaller than at traditional restaurants. | I think it is okay to tip smaller at buffets vs sit down restaurants. The reason is servers don't do as much for patrons at buffets. Also, I dont know this for sure but would assume that servers can take care of more tables. I understand the reason for tipping is servers have low pay so I would think that having more t... | throwitaway1825 | 3 | 2 | [
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CMV: Québec is for all practical purposes a separate country from Canada
So for starters. This is not an argument for Québec separatism. Rather, this is a normative claim that Québec is already effectively an independent country
Context: I am a lifetime Anglophone Torontonian who is moving to Québec City soon for wor... | By your logic, is Louisiana it's own country separate from USA?
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Yeah, I was going to say "Texas" but pretty much any state works when you're talking about their autonomy under a federal framework.
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Except Québec has unique autonomy and difference that other provinces do not
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I think you're both right. ... | Does Québec use a different currency from the rest of Canada?
Isn't that one of the big hallmarks of two places being different countries?
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> Does Québec use a different currency from the rest of Canada?
No
> Isn't that one of the big hallmarks of two places being different countries?
See Eurozone
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The Eu... | pi4gi7 | CMV: Québec is for all practical purposes a separate country from Canada | So for starters. This is not an argument for Québec separatism. Rather, this is a normative claim that Québec is already effectively an independent country
Context: I am a lifetime Anglophone Torontonian who is moving to Québec City soon for work. I, for various reasons, always saw Québec as a semi-independent countr... | CanadaHousingSucks4 | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: It should be illegal for a company to post they are hiring for a job without saying how much they are paying.
This should be the basic requirement for a Employer Employee relationship, The Employer says how much they are willing to pay for their position and the applicant's decide if they are willing to that job ... | Lots of jobs have negotiated salaries and aren’t hourly wage work. Why should they be required to not negotiate?
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That's well and good, they should post their minimum pay, because being willing to negotiate is fine and good but if what the person is looking for is not enough then they just went though the process ... | This seems incredibly difficult to enforce. Also, many places don't know how much they're willing to pay. Especially for jobs that are more than a basic retail or fast food, pay is often commiserate on experience.
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They know exactly what they are willing to pay normally minimum wage or company minimum wage. They... | pi2lz6 | CMV: It should be illegal for a company to post they are hiring for a job without saying how much they are paying. | This should be the basic requirement for a Employer Employee relationship, The Employer says how much they are willing to pay for their position and the applicant's decide if they are willing to that job for the compensation.
None of this bullshit of either not saying the pay or requiring copious amounts of searching ... | Andalib_Odulate | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Patriot act is unconstitutional and shows an authoritarian side if the United States government.
So my argument is pretty simple. The Patriot act allows surveillance of individuals without a warrant. This violates the 4th amendment. It is a blatant violation that has, as far as I know, hasn't stopped any big ... | The PATRIOT Act is a pretty thick piece of legislation. Can you clarify the specific provisions you think are unconstitutional and what part of the constitution you think they violate?
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4th amendment, I said it in my post.
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The Fourth Amendment states:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, h... | The 4th amendment protects from "unreasonable" search and seizure. Mass surveillance may constitute search, but not be "unreasonable" since most people don't even know they are being surveiled.
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It is unreasonable though, there is no reason to suspect that all 300 or so million Americans are planning to commit the... | gjb77b | CMV: The Patriot act is unconstitutional and shows an authoritarian side if the United States government. | So my argument is pretty simple. The Patriot act allows surveillance of individuals without a warrant. This violates the 4th amendment. It is a blatant violation that has, as far as I know, hasn't stopped any big terrorism attempts. It's not as if these events stopped either, I'm sure everyone remembers the Boston Mara... | [deleted] | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Utilizing VPN services is the worst thing you can do for your privacy.
All the latest news about repealing net-neutrality has people scrambling for buying VPN services, without giving a single thought of how detrimental it is to their privacy! Yes, detrimental, because you see, there are only a few parties that c... | A VPN company may misuse my data. There are some websites that I have absolute certainty that I don't want to know my location, who I am, etc. When faced with possibility versus certainty, possibility is more attractive.
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But looking at the bigger picture, we don't want a one-stop-shop of our entire internet behav... | Assuming we are a only talking about public VPNs.
Without a VPN your ISP and possibly a compromised devices on your network will know everything you do. and if you are in the US we know that your ISP is logging what you are doing.
With a VPN you give them all the info your IPS was getting but you also protect yourse... | dlzgv9 | CMV: Utilizing VPN services is the worst thing you can do for your privacy. | All the latest news about repealing net-neutrality has people scrambling for buying VPN services, without giving a single thought of how detrimental it is to their privacy! Yes, detrimental, because you see, there are only a few parties that can get a wholesome picture of our internet traffic details, our ISP and by ex... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The logic of American conservatives is flawed. On one hand they demand the second amendment be upheld to protect themselves from the possibility of an outcome where their government becomes tyrannical. On the other hand, they are for huge military spending.
What are isolated individuals going to do against the mo... | Couple things. I'm not conservative, but I feel like I see some flaws in your argument and I'll be coming at your view from that position.
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> A squadron of trained, well-equipped and battle-hardened marines communicating through a comms with a surveillance/intel unit versus a hillbilly with a semi-automatic r... | You seem to be under the illusion that elements of the military wouldn't resist a tyrannical government too I'm unsure but isn't part of their oath to stop domestic enemies too, which would include the government?. Also Vietnam, and the Taliban seemed to resist pretty well.
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Δ I did seem to be under that illusion ... | 89plwt | CMV: The logic of American conservatives is flawed. On one hand they demand the second amendment be upheld to protect themselves from the possibility of an outcome where their government becomes tyrannical. On the other hand, they are for huge military spending. | What are isolated individuals going to do against the most powerful and well-trained military in the world. In the last 7 years, military spending has exceeded 600 billion per year. The U.S.A also has the most advanced intelligence operations. It would be pretty easy for a military of its size and superior co-ordinati... | wollefdoog | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is absolutely no reason to want to have laws restricting lgbt people.
What I mean is that there’s absolutely no good, ethical, or righteous reason for wanting there to be laws restricting lgbt people.
So I’ve seen a lot of people, especially religious people that want to have laws in place restricting peo... | [removed]
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This. Especially since you have to get married by a priest? Like I don’t understand that. I’m not religious, I don’t want to be religious and I never understood the churches integration in marriage, especially since church and state are supposed to be separated.
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i am generally in agreement with yo... | Very few people are saying that nobody should be *allowed* to be gay, there are some but they're mostly fringe cases. What people are actively lobbying for are laws that allow people to discriminate against others on the basis of their sexuality, which isn't the same thing. If Joe Biblethumper wants to open a store and... | gj8dw0 | CMV: There is absolutely no reason to want to have laws restricting lgbt people. | What I mean is that there’s absolutely no good, ethical, or righteous reason for wanting there to be laws restricting lgbt people.
So I’ve seen a lot of people, especially religious people that want to have laws in place restricting people that are lgbt from getting married, getting jobs etc. In my opinion, there is ... | silvermoon2444 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Marvel re-releasing endgame with extra scenes is scummy.
For context marvel is putting a new version of endgame in cinemas with pre-made scenes at the end, as well as a stan lee tribute.
This is just a push to squeeze as much money out of the viewers as they can. They already had the scenes when they finished th... | > They already had the scenes when they finished the film,
You raised this point a couple of times throughout the comment threads. I don't understand how you think that has any bearing on the issue. Of COURSE they already had them filmed. Is this not the standard? When a movie has extra scenes that they add back in o... | > This is just a push to squeeze as much money out of the viewers as they can.
Um, why did *you* think they make these movies? Out of the kindness of their hearts?
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I understand that it's made for money, but theres a balance they need to find between making money and being ethical. For example advertising someth... | c2t8h5 | CMV: Marvel re-releasing endgame with extra scenes is scummy. | For context marvel is putting a new version of endgame in cinemas with pre-made scenes at the end, as well as a stan lee tribute.
This is just a push to squeeze as much money out of the viewers as they can. They already had the scenes when they finished the film, they should've either put them in or included them in t... | PsychicVoid | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Naturalization should not be possible, or at the very least, significantly harder than it already is
A nation-state's basic role is to care for the rights and privileges of its own citizens. Foreigners in any given nation-state should be second-class - which is **not** to say they shouldn't be treated humanely, b... | I've got a hypothetical for you.
Let's take two residents of Country A. Resident 1 is a natural born citizen who gets an engineering degree in Country A and proceeds to work there. Resident 2 is a citizen of another country who travels to Country A and proceeds to get an identical degree and then work an identical job... | > Foreigners in any given nation-state should be second-class - which is not to say they shouldn't be treated humanely, but it is to say that their rights and priorities should be taken into account after that of the citizens.
What if you can provide great benefit to foreigners, at a small, yet real cost to your own c... | 89ddej | CMV: Naturalization should not be possible, or at the very least, significantly harder than it already is | A nation-state's basic role is to care for the rights and privileges of its own citizens. Foreigners in any given nation-state should be second-class - which is **not** to say they shouldn't be treated humanely, but it is to say that their rights and priorities should be taken into account after that of the citizens.
... | eshansingh | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Democracy is a failure
A purposefully vague assertion to be sure, so I'll probably be giving deltas out like Halloween candy.
You know the old adage? Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on who's dinner.
What exactly is the idea behind democracy anyway? The most natural idea is that it's more fair to vote. ... | The old adage I like is "Democracy is the worst possible system except for all the others."
The real genius of democracy is its ability to bumble along without ever entirely failing. The only times democracy has failed have been the times it's been usurped and that's not really democracy's fault.
Yes, democracy has i... | > What exactly is the idea behind democracy anyway? The most natural idea is that it's more fair to vote. The democracy will invite compromise and a natural equilibrium where everybody can get along. So why are we so dysfunctional then?
Great question. Yeah. A lot of people seem to have the misconception that democrac... | jn9knv | CMV: Democracy is a failure | A purposefully vague assertion to be sure, so I'll probably be giving deltas out like Halloween candy.
You know the old adage? Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on who's dinner.
What exactly is the idea behind democracy anyway? The most natural idea is that it's more fair to vote. The democracy will invite com... | 4chanman99 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Democracy is a failure
A purposefully vague assertion to be sure, so I'll probably be giving deltas out like Halloween candy.
You know the old adage? Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on who's dinner.
What exactly is the idea behind democracy anyway? The most natural idea is that it's more fair to vote. ... | > What exactly is the idea behind democracy anyway? The most natural idea is that it's more fair to vote. The democracy will invite compromise and a natural equilibrium where everybody can get along. So why are we so dysfunctional then?
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The real genius of democracy is its ability to bumble along without ever entirely failing. The only times democracy has failed have been the times it's been usurped and that's not really democracy's fault.
Yes, democracy has i... | jn9knv | CMV: Democracy is a failure | A purposefully vague assertion to be sure, so I'll probably be giving deltas out like Halloween candy.
You know the old adage? Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on who's dinner.
What exactly is the idea behind democracy anyway? The most natural idea is that it's more fair to vote. The democracy will invite com... | 4chanman99 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Democracy is a failure
A purposefully vague assertion to be sure, so I'll probably be giving deltas out like Halloween candy.
You know the old adage? Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on who's dinner.
What exactly is the idea behind democracy anyway? The most natural idea is that it's more fair to vote. ... | > What exactly is the idea behind democracy anyway? The most natural idea is that it's more fair to vote. The democracy will invite compromise and a natural equilibrium where everybody can get along. So why are we so dysfunctional then?
Great question. Yeah. A lot of people seem to have the misconception that democrac... | The old adage I like is "Democracy is the worst possible system except for all the others."
The real genius of democracy is its ability to bumble along without ever entirely failing. The only times democracy has failed have been the times it's been usurped and that's not really democracy's fault.
Yes, democracy has i... | jn9knv | CMV: Democracy is a failure | A purposefully vague assertion to be sure, so I'll probably be giving deltas out like Halloween candy.
You know the old adage? Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on who's dinner.
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CMV: Suicide watch is unethical, can be ethically compared to kidnapping.
Suicide watch taking someone into custody forcefully could technically be considered unethical. Even if the custody duration is short, that dosen't matter.
For example: Just because a kidnapper released you after an hour, you're still going to ... | As others have said here, the intent is incredibly important. Suicide watch is done with the intention of preventing harm. Kidnapping someone is done to inflict harm.
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However this violates personal autonomy, when do you lose the right to do what you want with your body?
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The issue here is that you have a ver... | What do you call it when an ambulance picks up a person who can not consent?
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Both yours and OPs situations leave people in deep medical debt if they dont have insurance or good insurance. if the US is going to force people into ambulances or hospitals for suicide watch we need a single payer healthcare system.
... | 1kaqr78 | CMV: Suicide watch is unethical, can be ethically compared to kidnapping. | Suicide watch taking someone into custody forcefully could technically be considered unethical. Even if the custody duration is short, that dosen't matter.
For example: Just because a kidnapper released you after an hour, you're still going to press charges in a generic situation.
And what seperates suicide watch and... | i-am-called-glitchy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: CMV: Reddit's policy of allowing moderators to stay in place with no system of checks or balances should be reviewed and replaced with a better system.
Reddit Admin appear to think that its reasonable to allow mods to remain running subs indefinitely.
The notion appears to rest on the premise that the sub is 'th... | What is your alternative? What process for removing moderators would you advocate? How do you prevent this from being abused, such as hostile takeovers of communities?
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I think an alternative is a separate question.
My thinking is this:
The current system is nuts. I really mean that, and based on experience as ... | Not gonna lie, I'm literally just gonna combat "owning a community is wrong"
If people truly di dnt like how the sub worked, they should move on. I have a sub, it's mine. It was made for me, that is its purpose. If it becomes huge? That won't change. But imagine my fury if the sub i made just for me was taken from me... | 6shxmr | CMV: CMV: Reddit's policy of allowing moderators to stay in place with no system of checks or balances should be reviewed and replaced with a better system. | Reddit Admin appear to think that its reasonable to allow mods to remain running subs indefinitely.
The notion appears to rest on the premise that the sub is 'theirs', with the argument put that Reddit is a free market and users are able to move to a different sub if they dont like the mod(s) there.
I have not been a... | Altitudinous-Ozark | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Electoral college votes should be proportionally allocated for candidates in each state, not the majority wins all
First off, a disclaimer - I am not from the USA so perhaps there is a good reason for the current system but from an outsider’s POV it doesn’t seem like a fair representation.
As I understand it, ea... | Individual states already have the ability to divide their electors up based on how their state votes.
Nebraska and Maine are the only two that currently do it.
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I mentioned Nebraska and Maine in the main post - I just don't understand why the other states don't follow suit.
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Incentives.
In most states, th... | Any time spent revising the Electoral College system can just as easily be spent eliminating it entirely.
We don't need it anymore. It's 2020. I can buy a house by using an app to sign all the papers. I can deposit a check by taking a picture of it. I get sensitive medical information sent to me through a secure... | jn7kqz | CMV: Electoral college votes should be proportionally allocated for candidates in each state, not the majority wins all | First off, a disclaimer - I am not from the USA so perhaps there is a good reason for the current system but from an outsider’s POV it doesn’t seem like a fair representation.
As I understand it, each state will vote for their presidential candidate and in most states, the majority winning candidate will be allocated ... | haribo001 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I believe no topic should be taboo.
Context: This question came up recently when I was discussing with my friends about social norms (since I have trouble understanding them sometimes) and we were having a conversation about sex. Then they said that it was inappropriate to talk about that topic. Then I thought wh... | I think topics can be taboo *in certain contexts.*
If you're talking with a friend about sex in a private area, and you're both comfortable with the topic, then it's perfectly fine.
But I think what you friend means by saying "that's inappropriate" was "that topic will make me uncomfortable and probably put a damper ... | You might consider reframing the issue as "what are people comfortable talking about?" as opposed "what is taboo?"
People's personal history/experiences affect what they're comfortable talking about. You never know what kind of traumas people have dealt with.
Setting also matters -- a close friend might feel comfort... | jn3y4i | CMV: I believe no topic should be taboo. | Context: This question came up recently when I was discussing with my friends about social norms (since I have trouble understanding them sometimes) and we were having a conversation about sex. Then they said that it was inappropriate to talk about that topic. Then I thought why should any topic be limited in how much ... | OptimalDendrite | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The scientific accuracy of the Google diversity memo is irrelevant as to whether or not its author should have been fired
(Please note, nothing in the following submission makes a claim about whether or not James Damore should have been fired. It explores the relationship between the scientific accuracy of the me... | I understand your point and I agree with you that ultimately only the code of conduct is relevant to the firing decision, however I think it deserves mentioning why I think the topic of scientific accuracy has come up. And I think an argument could be made that there are situations where the scientific accuracy matters... | Clarifying question:
I think an important point of discussion would be a link to Googles Code of Conduct. Is that public? Can you provide a link?
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That says it was updated Aug 7th, after he was fired. What was the Code he was terminated under? | 6siq80 | CMV: The scientific accuracy of the Google diversity memo is irrelevant as to whether or not its author should have been fired | (Please note, nothing in the following submission makes a claim about whether or not James Damore should have been fired. It explores the relationship between the scientific accuracy of the memo, and whether or not that should be a factor in deciding if Mr. Damore should have been fired.)
One of the points that's cont... | YourFurryFriend1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Companies should not be bailed out; they should be nationalized or go bankrupt
So it's likely we are gonna see another around of bailouts across the board. Maybe there in argument to be made this time around it makes sense cause it's by natural disaster. Ok so maybe this time it is ok.
But I am gonna make a gen... | What stops this from being artificially manipulated? The government could do something that it knows would specifically harm an industry, and then nationalize it.
Also, the government doesn't lose with bailouts. Those are loans. The Obama bailouts actually made the government a profit.
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>What stops this from b... | [deleted]
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I say any government money including government loans are a bailout. Unless it is offered in exchange for a good or service.
Here is the thing, government bailouts even if the government takes equity in the business create a moral hazard.
A person invests, they are supposed to take a risk, and pote... | gguwxv | CMV: Companies should not be bailed out; they should be nationalized or go bankrupt | So it's likely we are gonna see another around of bailouts across the board. Maybe there in argument to be made this time around it makes sense cause it's by natural disaster. Ok so maybe this time it is ok.
But I am gonna make a general comment about bailouts.
In the past 40 years bailouts have become more common,... | sober2ndthought | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: it isn't realistically possible to lose weight.
UPDATE: I'm not sure if reading comprehension is just a struggle for people or if my post is unclear. Probably a bit of both.
What I was hoping to find was peer reviewer studies or legitimate statistics showing that a significant number of fat people were able to ... | 3 big changes that helped me to lose weight:
1. Cut out all sugar except fruit (and don't replace with diet or sugar free versions). This will make you look at the ingredients of everything you buy and helps prevent impulse buying because of this.
2. Drink a LOT of water (I have about 4 litres a day). Best way to do t... | I have a friend who went from obese to normal weight . I'm sorry, I don't know the actual numbers, but she went from being round- she had the opposite of a waist- to normal female shaped. It took her 3 years, and a permanent lifestyle change. From talking to her, she said that accepting it was a permanent change was th... | arvqsu | CMV: it isn't realistically possible to lose weight. | UPDATE: I'm not sure if reading comprehension is just a struggle for people or if my post is unclear. Probably a bit of both.
What I was hoping to find was peer reviewer studies or legitimate statistics showing that a significant number of fat people were able to become not far and remain non fat.
I was not asking ... | RatKyng | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The probability of life as we know it is zero percent
Age of universe: approximately 14,000,000,000 years
We're approximately 9 light minutes from the sun (habitable zone for life)
We live in a time where we program computers (exactly like a human brain)
We know nothing about dark energy or dark matter and we ... | How would one change your view on this?
It’s pretty obviously not zero because we do exist. You could argue the chance is small, but I don’t know how you would make a reasoned argument it’s literally 0.
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True, obviously not exactly zero, 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001% Life just seems too convenient, idk
... | 14 billion years, billions of planets beyond our own solar system.. and most importantly, it happened.
If you win the lottery, it's not a 'basically zero chance that you can win the lottery.' At that point, it's a 100% chance that you already won the lottery.
You could argue that the probability of life as we know it... | jn2jjx | CMV: The probability of life as we know it is zero percent | Age of universe: approximately 14,000,000,000 years
We're approximately 9 light minutes from the sun (habitable zone for life)
We live in a time where we program computers (exactly like a human brain)
We know nothing about dark energy or dark matter and we think we know gravity
We pass on our code in a way that sus... | larueon22s | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: if you are pro life you shouldn’t eat meat
If you believe life begins at first heart beat why does it matter that it’s a human heart and not any other animal? Why does a pig, cow, chicken, etc matter less than a fetus heart beat? If a heart beat is the ultimate decider of life why can you eat meat and decide that... | Someone can be pro-life and eat meat while being logically consistent. It’s a simple matter of placing a lot of weight on human life while placing very little on animals. The fact that a fetus has the potential to become a full fledged human is enough to warrant protection. Animals on the other hand lack the ability to... | >If you believe life begins at first heart beat why does it matter that it’s a human heart and not any other animal?
Personhood. The point of "life" gets kind of misconstrued in this conversation. These people believe a human fetus is a person of highest possible moral consideration, exactly the same as an adult human... | phl6ix | CMV: if you are pro life you shouldn’t eat meat | If you believe life begins at first heart beat why does it matter that it’s a human heart and not any other animal? Why does a pig, cow, chicken, etc matter less than a fetus heart beat? If a heart beat is the ultimate decider of life why can you eat meat and decide that is okay but when it comes to abortion that’s not... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Most oppressions are because the patriarchy is real and the male population having more power
(For starters, I am in canada)
The patriarchy: a system that supports the idea that straight males are dominant group in a hierarchy.
I believe the male population has more power than female population. Can they be op... | If, for instance, the opposite were true and female's held a majority of positions of authority would that then be considered the matriarchy? Is the fact that a group is the dominant power necessarily mean that that group's archy is real, or should the focus be put on the policies these people are enacting.
In a free... | > If the officer was female, she is not the oppressor if she made a decision to favour the male because of what her boss says. Unless she is making decisions free of the patriarchy, free of the system that's gives power to the male population, then the male is the one in power. The males are in the top forces calling t... | 89h2h0 | CMV: Most oppressions are because the patriarchy is real and the male population having more power | (For starters, I am in canada)
The patriarchy: a system that supports the idea that straight males are dominant group in a hierarchy.
I believe the male population has more power than female population. Can they be oppressed? In some ways yes, but the oppressors are male. So whatever oppressions men face, it is done... | silveryfeather208 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Humanity Is Certainly Doomed
This is a pretty straightforward concept, but I'll lay out what I mean specifically. I'm claiming that no matter what humanity does, it will end up being annhialated by AT LEAST the heat death of the universe. This is of course assuming that humanity survives that long, which I am by ... | You're just getting into so many unknown unknowns. We don't know, for example, how many universes there are. We don't know why the Big Bang happened. We don't know if we could figure out how to kickstart a new one. We don't know whether there's a way to exist in the absence of a universe. We don't even quite understand... | You are assuming our understanding of physics will remain approximately static for the next billions of years humanity may survive. By the time universe heat death is a potential problem, our understanding of physics may have a better grasp on the problem.
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CMV: This whole Marvel payment debacle is silly and I don't feel bad for someone (Scatlett Johansson) who made 20 million to play a B list character not getting more than that.
Black widow isn't a popular comic character and she has never had a successful comic run. Its a wonder that even got a movie and I honestly th... | Nobody is telling you to feel bad about the rich not getting richer.
You should care about a precedent setting legal case that allows the rich and powerful to screw people over without sufficient justification.
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How so? Movie was supposed to be a theatrical release, covid happened, they had to find another solut... | Johansson isn't suing out of greed, the lawsuit is because of a breach of contract by Disney for moving the film to simultaneous streaming and theater openings.
This is the type of dispute that doesn't just affect A-List Stars, but it takes an A-Lister to push back against a studio like Disney. If successful, this sui... | phd7yt | CMV: This whole Marvel payment debacle is silly and I don't feel bad for someone (Scatlett Johansson) who made 20 million to play a B list character not getting more than that. | Black widow isn't a popular comic character and she has never had a successful comic run. Its a wonder that even got a movie and I honestly think 20 million dollars to play that role in a movie is already too much.
There is no reason for me to feel bad about the rich not getting richer. I even feel like it says a lot... | HanakoOF | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Waving the confederate flag is more disrespectful to the American flag than kneeling during the national anthem.
This post probably isn’t for people who don’t think kneeling is disrespectful to the flag to begin with. But I feel there is a portion of the US population in the South that is adamant that you must st... | Depends.
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Kneeling is sometimes used to symbolize respect by kneeling in prayer or kneeling before a king.
Kneeling can also symbolize refusing to stand at attention and refusing to give respect. Or something differ... | [deleted]
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and when exactly was this sudden and abrupt change in how the flag is viewed??
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While the argument about what kne... | jfi224 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There are no viable alternatives to capitalism.
To be clear, I think capitalism is deeply flawed- it prioritizes monetization over basic decency, resulting in a system wherein the most morally bankrupt corporations are also the most successful, and it reduces those who have neither wealth nor connections to a sta... | I'm a socialist/communist. I don't think you have the definitions of capitalism and socialism/communism straight.
So when socialists talk about capitalism, what do they mean?
In my libertarian days, I was under the impression that capitalism just meant freedom to trade and produce whatever you wanted and it seemed lo... | You don't have to have 0 corruption rate for communism. You just have to have a minority corruption rate and laws and systems that prevent corruption.
Also. Give workers their share before taking the rest. Otherwise, riot. Its up to the people to defend themselves. Just like in capitalism except its not you vs a corpo... | dlk2l5 | CMV: There are no viable alternatives to capitalism. | To be clear, I think capitalism is deeply flawed- it prioritizes monetization over basic decency, resulting in a system wherein the most morally bankrupt corporations are also the most successful, and it reduces those who have neither wealth nor connections to a state of being borderline disposable. In its purest form,... | SergeantPepper97 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Student loan forgiveness is a stupid concept.
I think the government forgiving student loans is a fundamentally flawed idea. To get a student loan, you sign a contract in which you give a party money over a period of time as recompense for the money they give you to get an education. Only the person using the mon... | You act like government subsidized education is a bad thing. I’m happy putting my tax dollars towards it.
Education is one of the best long term investments a government can make.
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I think if government said “free education for all” and we paid for it, it would be much better than “free education for those who we... | Can you point to any substantial tax increases as the result of student loan forgiveness or are you just speculating that would take place?
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“Student Loan Forgiveness is paid by taxpayers. The federal government bears the cost of... | 1kaa1nm | CMV: Student loan forgiveness is a stupid concept. | I think the government forgiving student loans is a fundamentally flawed idea. To get a student loan, you sign a contract in which you give a party money over a period of time as recompense for the money they give you to get an education. Only the person using the money from the loan gets the education, and they(upon s... | BigBandit01 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Cruises are tacky, gross, dangerous, and a terrible way to travel.
I've never been on a cruise, but my view on them has always been that they are a ridiculous way to travel.
You apparently spend hours in massive lines to board the ship, then you spend days in what is basically a massive floating shopping mall w... | A lot of the things you seem to dislike or find to be a negative are things other people can look at positively.
>It seems like a way to 'travel' for people who have no interest in leaving the US culturally.
So? I doubt that anyone who is taking a cruise is hoping to seriously envelop themselves in another country's... | I've been on a few cruises, from the low end to the mid-high.
The whole boarding process took about 2 hours, which wasn't that terrible considering they were getting 3,000 people onto the ship, and it never felt like we were standing around TOO much.
However...
The ship was fantastic. You're simply wrong about th... | 89gcdb | CMV: Cruises are tacky, gross, dangerous, and a terrible way to travel. | I've never been on a cruise, but my view on them has always been that they are a ridiculous way to travel.
You apparently spend hours in massive lines to board the ship, then you spend days in what is basically a massive floating shopping mall with tacky outdated decor, trapped like a rat with thousands of other peop... | killmecarnival | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The Freedom Dividend is a superior alternative to a $15/h minimum wage increase
Little bit of background before I present my arguments: I was never really into UBI as a policy right now because the narrative pushed is usually something I don't necessarily agree with: automation is definitely going to cause mass u... | The issue is it’s way to match money. Almost 4 trillion dollars a year. The US federal give only raises 3 trillion dollars a year in taxes now.
A 15 or 20 dollar minimum wage works. We have had similar ones in the past. We know it’s not going to cause a financial meltdown down.
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It's actually 2.8 Trillion. And fr... | You’re making a good case for a VAT, and a less good case for UBI here, but what you’re missing is that, at least as proposed by Yang, a VAT of 10% doesn’t come close to funding a $1K per month freedom divided for every American. To do that, we’d need further tax increases and spending cuts.
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Aside from funding, w... | dlkmvo | CMV: The Freedom Dividend is a superior alternative to a $15/h minimum wage increase | Little bit of background before I present my arguments: I was never really into UBI as a policy right now because the narrative pushed is usually something I don't necessarily agree with: automation is definitely going to cause mass unemployment and UBI will be necessary. I understand this is a possible future but I ca... | fevieiraleite | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If all the fruits were forced to fight, the Watermelon would win
Let me clarify the scenario first:
So basically, all the fruits become sentient. But they all have the same brain, so one isn't going to outsmart the other. I guess technically territory matters, so I think it'd be fair to replicate the ancient fig... | Are you using fruit in the botanical sense or the layperson's?
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I'd be willing to use whatever allows the most competitors. If you want to use tomatoes, go ahead. If you want to a vegetable that as laypeople we consider fruits, go ahead. You can do both.
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Coconuts. Their defense is off the charts.
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I see... | Honeydew melon. Size isn't the only factor that matters, density does too. Alternatively durian. Spikes, thickness, and awful taste it doesn't even need to be sentient to win.
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I do believe the durian would be squished by a watermelon moving fast enough, but I'd like you to elaborate on the honeydew melon.
Are h... | giyvhq | CMV: If all the fruits were forced to fight, the Watermelon would win | Let me clarify the scenario first:
So basically, all the fruits become sentient. But they all have the same brain, so one isn't going to outsmart the other. I guess technically territory matters, so I think it'd be fair to replicate the ancient fights of yore and have it in a flat colosseum (adjusted for size). We can... | SirMannyOfChester | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV Republicans are trying to steal the election.
The actions of the GOP lately can only be described as a blatant attempt to steal the election. I am not referring to the actions they typically take through voter suppression however. Rather, they are outright trying to steal the election.
Trump and his team are tryi... | [removed]
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Yikes. Okay, so it seems like you’re fine with voter suppression and a rigged system; OP was asking more about the potential of a Supreme Court ruling. The historical basis would be the Bush v Gore election, where many people disagree with that SC decision. Add to that, Barrett’s main qualification seem... | A response to the Supreme Court thing... the republicans expect to lose this election, but they think it’s worth spending their remaining political capital on having a strong majority in the Supreme Court.
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Why don’t they do it after the election? It’s not like anyone could stop them if Biden won. If they were try... | jmuxv9 | CMV Republicans are trying to steal the election. | The actions of the GOP lately can only be described as a blatant attempt to steal the election. I am not referring to the actions they typically take through voter suppression however. Rather, they are outright trying to steal the election.
Trump and his team are trying to get the election to end before all of the vot... | 2plus24 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: There should be no stigma against asking for a paternity test.
I'm not arguing they should be mandatory (which has been posted here before), I'm arguing that there should be no negative stigma against asking for one.
This post assumes we will not be using the rare circumstance in which there are medical complica... | In your argument, you completely ignored the emotional damage you'd surely inflict on the majority of women. Getting theses tests, as opposed to just taking them at their word, is an accusation, and a signal that your trust in them is not 100 percent. In your example of asking job applicants to show you their degrees, ... | >>You are assuming they have cheated
>No, I'm not. Using that logic, the only reason you would be against it is that you cheated. I am not assuming you lied on your resume when I ask to see your degree either.
That doesn't pan out. It *does* mean you do not trust them to have not cheated. People can be against priv... | arpaws | CMV: There should be no stigma against asking for a paternity test. | I'm not arguing they should be mandatory (which has been posted here before), I'm arguing that there should be no negative stigma against asking for one.
This post assumes we will not be using the rare circumstance in which there are medical complications involved in taking the test. It also assumes the paternity test... | Do_The_Upgrade | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Anything which is provided to you by another person or entity is a privilege, not a human right
I see these arguments all the time that things such as healthcare, education, and housing are basic human rights. My view is that this is, by definition, incorrect.
Note: I am not arguing against universal healthcare... | So this argument mostly comes with regards to welfare issues such as education or healthcare. But what would you say about the right to a fair trial? That is certainly provided to people by judges, prosecutors, public defenders, police and more.
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>Rather, these things are privileges.
This distinction becomes hard to draw very clearly because you accepted the right to life, and many of the thing... | gijwhw | CMV: Anything which is provided to you by another person or entity is a privilege, not a human right | I see these arguments all the time that things such as healthcare, education, and housing are basic human rights. My view is that this is, by definition, incorrect.
Note: I am not arguing against universal healthcare/education. I believe that if a developed nation is capable of providing those things than it would be... | confetti27 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Population size doesn't affect the plausibility of Universal/Free Healthcare
I often see this thrown around in any discussions about free/universal healthcare. To me this doesn't make sense
1. Some large population countries have universal healthcare
2. Aren't economies just ratios of each other, more people = p... | I would argue that it's population density that affects the cost of universal healthcare and not total population size. Canada, where i live, has universal healthcare but not things like universal pharmacare. We would likely be able to include pharmacare, vision, dental, etc for a similar cost if our population was mor... | [deleted]
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> Quadruple the population means at least 4 times the cost and 4 times these special problems. Germany is tiny compared to the US.
You do understand that a population four times as large would presumably also have comparatively higher wealthy, and thus the per capita burden should be roughly the same.... | dlf24w | CMV: Population size doesn't affect the plausibility of Universal/Free Healthcare | I often see this thrown around in any discussions about free/universal healthcare. To me this doesn't make sense
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2. Aren't economies just ratios of each other, more people = patients, but = more doctors = more money etc I struggle to understand why populatio... | OperatorJolly | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Trump's tariffs are a good thing for the US
To preface, I am not a republican. I voted for Biden and then Kamala and think neither of them was left enough. However, I really just do not see how Trump's tariffs are anything but a good thing.
At face value, they exist to punish primarily big businesses, which are ... | Tariffs cause [deadweight loss](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadweight_loss)
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How? Doesn't the money go to the government which, at least in theory, can use it to benefit society.
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Given that your view is that tariffs are good, shouldn't you - at a minimum - have a well reasoned argument about where the imp... | It puts a tax on all businesses. If you grow oranges in Florida, you use tractors that have parts from around the world. You use energy and materials that come from around the world. There’s a global supply chain imbedded into everything, even if it doesn’t seem directly related. These are businesses that can’t afford ... | 1ka66r2 | CMV: Trump's tariffs are a good thing for the US | To preface, I am not a republican. I voted for Biden and then Kamala and think neither of them was left enough. However, I really just do not see how Trump's tariffs are anything but a good thing.
At face value, they exist to punish primarily big businesses, which are the main importers into the US as well as the main... | Anon_cat86 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Immigrants deserve to be citizens more than native born Americans
Let's compare:
What immigrants have to do to get here:
1. Undergo a time-consuming and rigorous vetting process to obtain a visa.
2. Save up the economic means to travel and set up a new life.
3. In some cases, they have to be extra smart or poss... | Could you elaborate on what you consider things that makes people deserve citizenship?
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They have to work for it
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Would you concider paying taxes your whole adult life working for it?
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Paying taxes isn't a prerequisite to being a citizen. You can't lose your citizenship by not paying taxes.
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Ok s... | No one deserves citizenship in a nation they arent native to. Is there any reason you apply this to the US and not Iran or China, or Poland or Africa? Every nation vets for citizenship. Theres no reason whatsoever that we should make things easier just because theyre difficult. Nations should remain nations, that inclu... | aebwv3 | CMV: Immigrants deserve to be citizens more than native born Americans | Let's compare:
What immigrants have to do to get here:
1. Undergo a time-consuming and rigorous vetting process to obtain a visa.
2. Save up the economic means to travel and set up a new life.
3. In some cases, they have to be extra smart or possess expert knowledge (H1B visa).
4. In some cases, they must make a long... | f0me | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Reddit is a platform that stifles free speech and dissenting opinions
TLDR: Reddit shouldn't hide or remove posts just because they are downvoted. This is punishing those who speak up against what is the popular belief. With their current rules, Reddit is doing what they can to make sure only the popular can comm... | Limiting free speech is done by governments, not individuals or companies. By your logic a publisher refusing to publish a book they don’t believe will sell well is stifling free speech.
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In their user help site they say they are pro-free speech. That analogy doesn't really work for me since a publisher is there t... | Freedom of speech does not entitle you to be listened to by others. If you say things that people don't want to hear, then they don't have to listen. Reddit's system simply prioritizes posts people want to see over posts people don't want to see. It is blind to the "why" of a post's popularity. It is completely nat... | jmy8xr | CMV: Reddit is a platform that stifles free speech and dissenting opinions | TLDR: Reddit shouldn't hide or remove posts just because they are downvoted. This is punishing those who speak up against what is the popular belief. With their current rules, Reddit is doing what they can to make sure only the popular can communicate without punishment and restrictions.
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CMV: My Immortal is an intentional parody of fanfiction
For those who don't know, My Immortal is a Harry Potter fanfic which is notorious for being one of the worst fanfic ever written. Filled with spelling errors, grammatical mistakes, plot holes, irrelevant details, references to emo culture, and hilariously juvenil... | I mean the author does seem to be pretty serious about it sooo...
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"STOP flaming! if u flam it menz ur a prep or a posr! Da only reson Dumbledeor swor is coz he had a hedache ok an on tup of dat he wuz mad at dem ... | I don’t really care about your actual opinion in this BUT
Your defense for it being fake by using the reasoning that “nobody that age could know references from 17 years ago” is ridiculous. I was born to an early 40’s parent. My brother is 13 years older than me. I knew more references from *his* childhood than my own... | jxvc0k | CMV: My Immortal is an intentional parody of fanfiction | For those who don't know, My Immortal is a Harry Potter fanfic which is notorious for being one of the worst fanfic ever written. Filled with spelling errors, grammatical mistakes, plot holes, irrelevant details, references to emo culture, and hilariously juvenile description of sexual intercourse, it has been widely a... | notsuspendedlxqt | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Kant's categorical imperative is nonsensical
This might get me in hot water with philosophy bros, but this is my point of view and I'd love to have it changed. Kant's categorical imperatives are maxims which describe acts that are morally permissible. If a maxim accords with a set of rules, then Kant considers th... | Those specifics don't change the act, is the issue - stealing your neighbour Bob's garden gnomes this Thursday *is the same action* as stealing anyone else's stuff on any other day, so the act you're universalising is still just "stealing".
We're seeing whether the *action* is universalisable, not whether the context ... | Kant's Categorical Imperative does not have this kind of flaw (it has others) because he doesn't allow any sort of specifics. You cannot steal your neighbor's gnomes, that's stealing. You cannot lie to save someone's life, that's lying.
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CMV: Art, (paintings, etc.) is not valuable and should just be a small-time hobby like crocheting
I find it mind-boggling not only how much art is worth, but how much art appreciates in value for certain artists posthumously. No other medium of the arts has this type of dynamic. Maybe first-edition books of classics. ... | I guess the first question I would ask is what gives any object intrinsic value?
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CMV: 3rd Wave Feminism in the US is not needed
I do not believe we need any sort of feminism in the US unless said feminism is made to help women in other countries. Here are a list of reason why.
\-[NOT ALL MEN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSE97-fOQtw) are bad.
\-Feminism has created so many lies and misconcept... | Would you be able to steelman any feminist arguments for me? The abortion argument for example.
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I do not know what "steelman" is..
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It's the opposite of a strawman. Basically, what are the strongest arguments that you can think of for feminism? I asked for abortion, but you could do it for anything that you ... | Have you read any feminist theory or does all your information come from YouTubers and not the source? Which of the third wave feminist theorist do you find to be the most incorrect and why?
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I don't need to read in theory when I see feminism in practice. I see feminism going on in our country and this is what it ... | giss3t | CMV: 3rd Wave Feminism in the US is not needed | I do not believe we need any sort of feminism in the US unless said feminism is made to help women in other countries. Here are a list of reason why.
\-[NOT ALL MEN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSE97-fOQtw) are bad.
\-Feminism has created so many lies and misconceptions like [the gender wage gap](https://www.yout... | YourNightOwl | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: 3rd Wave Feminism in the US is not needed
I do not believe we need any sort of feminism in the US unless said feminism is made to help women in other countries. Here are a list of reason why.
\-[NOT ALL MEN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSE97-fOQtw) are bad.
\-Feminism has created so many lies and misconcept... | Would you be able to steelman any feminist arguments for me? The abortion argument for example.
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I do not know what "steelman" is..
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It's the opposite of a strawman. Basically, what are the strongest arguments that you can think of for feminism? I asked for abortion, but you could do it for anything that you ... | Have you read any feminist theory or does all your information come from YouTubers and not the source? Which of the third wave feminist theorist do you find to be the most incorrect and why?
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I don't need to read in theory when I see feminism in practice. I see feminism going on in our country and this is what it ... | giss3t | CMV: 3rd Wave Feminism in the US is not needed | I do not believe we need any sort of feminism in the US unless said feminism is made to help women in other countries. Here are a list of reason why.
\-[NOT ALL MEN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSE97-fOQtw) are bad.
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CMV: 3rd Wave Feminism in the US is not needed
I do not believe we need any sort of feminism in the US unless said feminism is made to help women in other countries. Here are a list of reason why.
\-[NOT ALL MEN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSE97-fOQtw) are bad.
\-Feminism has created so many lies and misconcept... | You may wish to have a read of https://www.payscale.com/data/gender-pay-gap which looks at the continuing, if diminishing pay gap between men and women.
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This study clearly did not factor in work behaviors but okay.
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And by “work behaviours”, you mean - what? Note that it analyses both ‘controlled’ and ‘uncon... | Have you read any feminist theory or does all your information come from YouTubers and not the source? Which of the third wave feminist theorist do you find to be the most incorrect and why?
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I don't need to read in theory when I see feminism in practice. I see feminism going on in our country and this is what it ... | giss3t | CMV: 3rd Wave Feminism in the US is not needed | I do not believe we need any sort of feminism in the US unless said feminism is made to help women in other countries. Here are a list of reason why.
\-[NOT ALL MEN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSE97-fOQtw) are bad.
\-Feminism has created so many lies and misconceptions like [the gender wage gap](https://www.yout... | YourNightOwl | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: Post-modernism is a mostly destructive art movement. It is nihilistic, anti-humanist, and has no concern for the individual.
I should probably start with definitions-- I am pretty much going off the wikipedia definitions exactly (but written here from memory):
Moderism was an art and philosophical movement at th... | It's very difficult for me to wrap my head around your point without examples. Could you pick a few famous examples of postmodernist art and explain how those works aren't "an individual expressing his own private experience, independent of how closely that experience follows the standard experience of his particular ... | Modernism, as you have stated it, leads to Marxists, Anarcho-Capitalists, Evangelicals, belief in some Platonism, etc., namely radicalism. The reason for this is that the precondition for radicalism is a faith that you have found the something universal or have discovered an ultimate context on which to stand and analy... | 89a60u | CMV: Post-modernism is a mostly destructive art movement. It is nihilistic, anti-humanist, and has no concern for the individual. | I should probably start with definitions-- I am pretty much going off the wikipedia definitions exactly (but written here from memory):
Moderism was an art and philosophical movement at the turn of the century which countered Realism, or the attempt to portray the world exactly as it is. Influenced by Freud, the movem... | cranelady7 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Infant circumcision is bad because it causes the male to require lubricant for masturbation and mutual masturbation.
Some people may have a foreskin that is too tight or long, but that is an individual problem and does not necessarily require circumcision.
A surgical procedure can be done to loosen or reduce the... | I think the comments have basically blown away your argument. Your anecdotal experience is not reason to make a definitive general claim like "cx is bad".
It is also recommended by physicians to use lube for masturbating anyways, so from a health perspective, your argument is moot.
Using underwater scenarios as j... | I have never had a problem with it and dont really use lube and am glad my parents circumcised me as an infant and didnt have to do it when I was older
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Most likely wouldn’t have had to when you’re older so that’s a mute point
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Oh I personally would have so its not a moot point | 1k9nf03 | CMV: Infant circumcision is bad because it causes the male to require lubricant for masturbation and mutual masturbation. | Some people may have a foreskin that is too tight or long, but that is an individual problem and does not necessarily require circumcision.
A surgical procedure can be done to loosen or reduce the length of the foreskin without removing it entirely.
Even so, this is a case by case basis, so circumcising an infant may... | InternalSchedule2861 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: White people who get offended by the n-word are more racist than those who say it.
Quick disclaimer: I'm white, so take everything how you will.
I believe in freedom of speech which is why this triggers me. In my opinion, any word can be said if the context isn't offensive. If I'm allowed to call my friends cunt... | > Not out of racism but out of genetics.
Language is learned. The specifics usecase of each word is not determined by genetics.
Your utilization of a certain word in a certain context is the result of learned behavior, and it can be changed. As such, the choice to use a certain word is yours, not a fault of nature.... | There's a universal understanding in our culture that people who support African American rights don't use that word. When you do, whether you intend to or not, you tell the people around you that you don't support African American rights. The Klan guys are going to want to recruit you if they hear you shouting it in t... | ae56j6 | CMV: White people who get offended by the n-word are more racist than those who say it. | Quick disclaimer: I'm white, so take everything how you will.
I believe in freedom of speech which is why this triggers me. In my opinion, any word can be said if the context isn't offensive. If I'm allowed to call my friends cunts or bitches (which are considered to be sexist words) and not even my female friends get... | NightmaresAlive | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: White people who get offended by the n-word are more racist than those who say it.
Quick disclaimer: I'm white, so take everything how you will.
I believe in freedom of speech which is why this triggers me. In my opinion, any word can be said if the context isn't offensive. If I'm allowed to call my friends cunt... | There's a universal understanding in our culture that people who support African American rights don't use that word. When you do, whether you intend to or not, you tell the people around you that you don't support African American rights. The Klan guys are going to want to recruit you if they hear you shouting it in t... | > Not out of racism but out of genetics.
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Your utilization of a certain word in a certain context is the result of learned behavior, and it can be changed. As such, the choice to use a certain word is yours, not a fault of nature.... | ae56j6 | CMV: White people who get offended by the n-word are more racist than those who say it. | Quick disclaimer: I'm white, so take everything how you will.
I believe in freedom of speech which is why this triggers me. In my opinion, any word can be said if the context isn't offensive. If I'm allowed to call my friends cunts or bitches (which are considered to be sexist words) and not even my female friends get... | NightmaresAlive | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: History/Social Studies should not be a mandatory subject in schools.
This is about American Schools/education systems
I do see the merit and reason behind having math, p.e., English, and Sciences, and how they do help with future education and many jobs and careers. They open many more pathways into tons of car... | I guess this boils down to whether you believe that education ought to be purely for practical purposes, or if there's some value in knowing things about your country and the world in general, even if they might not be immediately useful.
Knowing even a little bit of history give our society some context. It's hard to... | If your school provides Psychology as a Social Study class I think that anyone going into any career will greatly benefit from it and that classes like that should be mandatory.
Basic human interaction is a fundamental building block for social interaction in the work place and knowing how minds work (through basic le... | dlddmb | CMV: History/Social Studies should not be a mandatory subject in schools. | This is about American Schools/education systems
I do see the merit and reason behind having math, p.e., English, and Sciences, and how they do help with future education and many jobs and careers. They open many more pathways into tons of careers because they are very general and can be used even minorly for a lot o... | Jemundo1Hundo | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Against any truly persistent human in the AI Box experiment, the AI will never win
The AI Box experiment is interesting and provides a challenging thought experiment, but I feel like any truly conniving human would always win against the AI. The reasons are simple:
1. The human is not obliged to treat it as a de... | One way the AI could win is that it would promise you that it will work on your behalf to make you rich, famous, respected, whatever you wish. Human greed would fall for that pretty much every time.
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but people need evidence, need backing. If The AI had a three round debate against the top debaters of the world, i... | Against a truly persistent human, a human would fail in the AIs position.
A sufficiently advanced AI could understand context, chatbots just are attempts to obfuscate how primitive the AI actually is. Your other arguments boil down to the human not engaging with the argument - and as real life prisoners can tell you, ... | gxq2e7 | CMV: Against any truly persistent human in the AI Box experiment, the AI will never win | The AI Box experiment is interesting and provides a challenging thought experiment, but I feel like any truly conniving human would always win against the AI. The reasons are simple:
1. The human is not obliged to treat it as a debate. Even if you can argue against the human, they can still stupidly say "you're right.... | 9spaceking | 5 | 4 | [
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CMV: For the candy Mike and Ike, Mikes are citrus and Ikes are not citrus
1) The flavors of Mike and Ike are cherry, lemon, strawberry, lime, and orange. The only flavors that contain an “m” (as in Mike) are lemon and lime, which are citrus flavors.
2) A specific type of orange is a mandarin orange, which also starts... | And in what way would you like us to change your view of this?
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Tell me that the citrus flavors are not mikes or convince me that they are Ikes
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Actually, both the citrus and non-citrus flavors are both considered to be a 'Mike & Ike' piece of candy, so both citrus and non-citrus ones are Mike *and* Ike.
If ... | Mike and Ike Mega Mix has watermelon flavor, which contains an "m" but is not citrus.
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Watermelon isn’t an original flavor | jmus13 | CMV: For the candy Mike and Ike, Mikes are citrus and Ikes are not citrus | 1) The flavors of Mike and Ike are cherry, lemon, strawberry, lime, and orange. The only flavors that contain an “m” (as in Mike) are lemon and lime, which are citrus flavors.
2) A specific type of orange is a mandarin orange, which also starts with the same special letter that Mike does.
3) I like the citrus flavors... | greeen_it | 3 | 2 | [
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CMV: Most of the culture war and the inane bs that we spend so much time arguing about here and elsewhere is basically cover for the real actual problems society faces, most notably wealth & income inequality
I spend probably too much time on reddit, like many of the people here (don't mean to call you out lol).
I al... | >So, to start, I'll say this. I generally suspect that about 90-95% of our social and political issues boil down to one basic fact: most people do not have enough money and that a large reason for this is that all the money is getting sucked up to the fuckers at the top.
Misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc is not exclus... | of course. That's the point of creating the culture wars. Once again you can thank Republicans for being shitty people
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Sure i agree,
It's really obvious for republicans. That's why i spent most of this post talking about libs.
Libs will, correctly i might add, point to guys like Andrew Tate as a serious prob... | 1k9mgt7 | CMV: Most of the culture war and the inane bs that we spend so much time arguing about here and elsewhere is basically cover for the real actual problems society faces, most notably wealth & income inequality | I spend probably too much time on reddit, like many of the people here (don't mean to call you out lol).
I also spend a lot of time on political subs.
One thing that strikes me is just how inane and so.... off the mark, a lot of political discussion really is?
I will say that this is mostly a thing from the right, b... | Interesting-Shame9 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Hong Kong protests are actively harming both sides and should not continue.
As a mainland Chinese person, I feel that Hong Kong protests have completely stripped away and sympathy mainlanders had for the Hong Kong democracy. I support Hong Kong's democracy and autonomy, but think that protests (especially violent... | >people who support this cause should be lobbying legally, fundraising, and working to show that One Country Two Systems is working and sustainable.
Even if they were to do exactly this, it would accomplish nothing, and you know it. People who tried to do this can look forward to disappearing one day, and possibly se... | Think of it as a frog. If you put it in boiling water, it will die. If you slowly boil it in the water, it will die. Eather way they are doomed, but by protesting at least people will know what happened, for future generations.
Also, you legaly should not be here.
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I see. However, I would rather have futuregenera... | gxobbw | CMV: Hong Kong protests are actively harming both sides and should not continue. | As a mainland Chinese person, I feel that Hong Kong protests have completely stripped away and sympathy mainlanders had for the Hong Kong democracy. I support Hong Kong's democracy and autonomy, but think that protests (especially violent) ones are actively doing harm to the cause.
Violent protests in Hong Kong prese... | Cactusisawesome | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: political conversations online do not work.
alright let me start off by saying that there are views which are stupid and i'm not really directing this at that as the lack of interest to engage with stupid ideas is reasonable.
I think that political conversation online cannot work for several reasons.
1. stimula... | I had several arguments online about politics, some worked, other didn't.
I'd argue that some work, but not every debate does. The most important factor is wether or not someone else is arguing in good faith or not. And that's not even an issue between the left and the right (although admittetly, I do believe that ri... | 1. I'm currently in the middle of a bizarre month or so long argument about various political things where the posts have just recently reached YouTube's comment size limits. All this to say, my online political conversation is frequently way more lengthy and depthy than the stuff I do in real life. Just having a perfe... | ae5qf1 | CMV: political conversations online do not work. | alright let me start off by saying that there are views which are stupid and i'm not really directing this at that as the lack of interest to engage with stupid ideas is reasonable.
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CMV: Dangerous convicts should lose their rights to a organ donation
Very simple. How do you feel when the murderer or rapist of your child gets into an accident and then the organ of another child you lost years prior by a murder (caused by this same man) becomes a part of him, letting him live with a part of your ch... | I concur with u/Rainbwned's point about the convict being proven innocent later, so I'll take a different angle.
Suppose the convict was absolutely, 100% guilty. Let's say he murders a child, as you say, and gets 40 years in prison. He is released, suddenly has a need of organ replacement, and receives one. You claim ... | >but how would you feel knowing that the organs you donated went to a person so despicable they didn't deserve it?>
Am I dead? If so then my opinion does not count for much.
>My argument is thus that there are certain crimes that should deprive you from organ donation forever>
What if through forensic evid... | 6lfzu8 | CMV: Dangerous convicts should lose their rights to a organ donation | Very simple. How do you feel when the murderer or rapist of your child gets into an accident and then the organ of another child you lost years prior by a murder (caused by this same man) becomes a part of him, letting him live with a part of your child inside of him? What if this criminial, released not long ago, with... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: it's hypocritical to support an increase in the military budget, but oppose public healthcare on the grounds that nobody is entitled to use other people's money.
Months ago, I had a conservation with an acquaintance who supported Trump's 34 billion increase in the military budget, because the U.S has the responsi... | How do you possibly view them as equals? There is no feasible way for an individual to form a protective military, period. On the contrary, a normal personal can most certainly afford heathcare coverage on their own without needing other assistance. The government should be there to provide assistance for things that a... | Somewhat a false equivalence from a Libertarian point of view as people can not purchase military equipment to defend themselves or their international interests (talking about missiles, nukes, etc. here) from other nation-states. Whereas people can purchase healthcare with no obstacles.
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> people can purchase hea... | 6bgoc6 | CMV: it's hypocritical to support an increase in the military budget, but oppose public healthcare on the grounds that nobody is entitled to use other people's money. | Months ago, I had a conservation with an acquaintance who supported Trump's 34 billion increase in the military budget, because the U.S has the responsibility to ensure the security of all it's foreign allies. Fair enough.
Recently, he posted a picture of Rand Paul alongside one of his quotes. The one where he insist... | agirlhasnoname99 | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Sexuality is a choice
A common refrain is that sexuality is not a choice, that it is something we are born with or something that is innate. This is often used to equate sexual preference with race, disability, or traits like that in discussions about protection against discrimination.
Foremost, saying sexuality... | Am I understanding correctly that you think someone can chose who they are attracted to ?
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I think there is an element of choice, yes. Same as liking a food, liking a make of car, liking a style of house. If sexuality is not a choice then what that we prefer is a choice?
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I disagree with this. When I eat a fo... | To be clear, you are defining choice in a way that includes choosing who you are attracted to. Imagine I asked you to change your sexuality. Could you, from tomorrow, totally flip who you are attracted to?
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EDIT: Polite request to commenters to not downvote OP blindly
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I'm not sure what totally flip would b... | nuhoe1 | CMV: Sexuality is a choice | A common refrain is that sexuality is not a choice, that it is something we are born with or something that is innate. This is often used to equate sexual preference with race, disability, or traits like that in discussions about protection against discrimination.
Foremost, saying sexuality is innate is contrary to wh... | josephfidler | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Not using reddit is a disadvantage in life
People on reddit love to self deprecate and talk about the average redditor being a virgin loser and yes, there is probably some censorship on here and yes there is probably a lot of echo chambering too BUT
I think reddit is one of the best things on the internet if... | Bots have taken over Reddit in political areas. It becoming less bearable
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Can you show me proof of bots? Like a popular post flooded by bots?
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Take a look at this mod post from r/wholesomememes:
> Hey there friends! It’s only been a few days since we started cracking down on the spam bots and excessive repo... | Reddit is a very left leaning site which doesn't allow for much diversity of opinion. It exists within a bubble of users that all agree with each other and differing opinions are shuned
Iirc one of the heads of reddit was caught editing comments in r/thedonald when it was still around.
It's gotten to a point of being... | 1itotnb | CMV: Not using reddit is a disadvantage in life | People on reddit love to self deprecate and talk about the average redditor being a virgin loser and yes, there is probably some censorship on here and yes there is probably a lot of echo chambering too BUT
I think reddit is one of the best things on the internet if not THE best
1. Reddit is a place of argume... | lil_peasant_69 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Judges and other elite professionals don't deserve any more respect than another person I might meet
Some people say a judge, doctor or CEO deserves my respect because of the difficult and hard work they have put in to get their positions, and also the probable good character that such a position means they proba... | > I believe until a person actually demonstrates something to me personally that shows they should have my respect (ie show compassion to those less fortunate, selflessness or demonstrate integrity, for example), they are due only the respect I afford any other fellow human.
I take this to mean that you give no credit... | > I believe until a person actually demonstrates something to me personally that shows they should have my respect (ie show compassion to those less fortunate, selflessness or demonstrate integrity, for example), they are due only the respect I afford any other fellow human.
I’d point out that Judges, like other publi... | 6bha8o | CMV: Judges and other elite professionals don't deserve any more respect than another person I might meet | Some people say a judge, doctor or CEO deserves my respect because of the difficult and hard work they have put in to get their positions, and also the probable good character that such a position means they probably have.
I believe until a person actually demonstrates something to me personally that shows they shoul... | Landerah | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Reddit is a politically biased forum
Hi all! Hope everything is going well for you. I want to start by saying that I do not recognise myself in neither side of the political spectrum, as I stand and believe in things that comes from both side (e.g. I’m pro equality of opportunity and reproductive rights BUT I’m a... | [removed]
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Can you expand on this? I’m actually curious about this view, as it would include the wider population
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>Can you expand on this? I’m actually curious about this view, as it would include the wider population
To be on the internet you have to know how computers work.
Computer knowledge is more hea... | Reddit is unique in that there are separate subreddits for a wide variety of different interests. I don't disagree that Reddit may lean left, but to call it biased would be a disservice to subreddits with right-leaning bases.
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Very true, but I’m not 100% satisfied with this answer, but it’s my fault, I should have... | nuh7yu | CMV: Reddit is a politically biased forum | Hi all! Hope everything is going well for you. I want to start by saying that I do not recognise myself in neither side of the political spectrum, as I stand and believe in things that comes from both side (e.g. I’m pro equality of opportunity and reproductive rights BUT I’m against political correctness and cancellati... | SmallApplication8043 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Reddit is a politically biased forum
Hi all! Hope everything is going well for you. I want to start by saying that I do not recognise myself in neither side of the political spectrum, as I stand and believe in things that comes from both side (e.g. I’m pro equality of opportunity and reproductive rights BUT I’m a... | "BUT I’m against political correctness and cancellation culture)."
Can you define what these two things are so that we can discuss them in more detail?
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Sure. I’m not sure how this is relevant to this debate, but I’m happy to share. I’m against any form of censorship and speech limitation. I agree on social cl... | Reddit is unique in that there are separate subreddits for a wide variety of different interests. I don't disagree that Reddit may lean left, but to call it biased would be a disservice to subreddits with right-leaning bases.
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Very true, but I’m not 100% satisfied with this answer, but it’s my fault, I should have... | nuh7yu | CMV: Reddit is a politically biased forum | Hi all! Hope everything is going well for you. I want to start by saying that I do not recognise myself in neither side of the political spectrum, as I stand and believe in things that comes from both side (e.g. I’m pro equality of opportunity and reproductive rights BUT I’m against political correctness and cancellati... | SmallApplication8043 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Reddit is a politically biased forum
Hi all! Hope everything is going well for you. I want to start by saying that I do not recognise myself in neither side of the political spectrum, as I stand and believe in things that comes from both side (e.g. I’m pro equality of opportunity and reproductive rights BUT I’m a... | "BUT I’m against political correctness and cancellation culture)."
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Qq: are you being sarcastic or truthful? I’m new to this sub, so it’s just curiosity
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Probably truthful, we like to think we're doing our jobs as long as people on both sides of the aisle think we're biased against them. | nuh7yu | CMV: Reddit is a politically biased forum | Hi all! Hope everything is going well for you. I want to start by saying that I do not recognise myself in neither side of the political spectrum, as I stand and believe in things that comes from both side (e.g. I’m pro equality of opportunity and reproductive rights BUT I’m against political correctness and cancellati... | SmallApplication8043 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Hollywood is making all of my favorite characters black, and it makes me furious.
I have told this view to my family and friends. They either call me a racist or tell me it doesn't matter so why do you care?
But it matters to me, so I am here. Looking for someone to change my view if I am thinking about this inc... | So to start off with: what Hollywood does or doesn't do probably shouldn't be making you *furious*. I get that art and media can be important and meaningful to us but it's still worth thinking about taking a step back when you're starting to use words like "furious" to describe your relationship with it.
As for the vi... | And if a character was changed to a white actor would you have that same energy? And if not why not?
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He wouldn’t need to have the same energy as it would be destroyed in the media lol. Let’s test it and make Chris Hemsworth the black panther
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There have been white black panthers in the comics before
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If... | 1itlzzb | CMV: Hollywood is making all of my favorite characters black, and it makes me furious. | I have told this view to my family and friends. They either call me a racist or tell me it doesn't matter so why do you care?
But it matters to me, so I am here. Looking for someone to change my view if I am thinking about this incorrectly or if I really am a racist.
For context: I love the How to Train Your Dragon f... | JRSwampFOX | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: You should not expect to remain anonymous on Reddit.
Recently people are up in arms about CNN not releasing the real name of a Redditor (and, depending on how you choose to read CNN's announcement, possible coercion.)
I assume that everything I say on this account is read by...anyone, past present future, I asso... | > They'd be awful for activists in countries where they're under threat...but that's not really Reddit's M.O. and I'd call it disingenuous to argue otherwise.
This is not the only at-risk group, and not the only group with a legitimate interest in anonymity. Consider /r/raisedbynarcissists as an example - and I don't ... | [removed]
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I'm just confused about all the vitriol in this post:
http://np.reddit.com/r/television/comments/6lbh08/cnn_discovers_identity_of_reddit_user_behind/
The argument appears to be that the user should have experienced no consequences and remained anonymous? Even though the user was embarrassed by their o... | 6lcmxh | CMV: You should not expect to remain anonymous on Reddit. | Recently people are up in arms about CNN not releasing the real name of a Redditor (and, depending on how you choose to read CNN's announcement, possible coercion.)
I assume that everything I say on this account is read by...anyone, past present future, I associate with. I practice some opsec but certainly not enough.... | aleksandyr | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Life *is* fair. In general, people too often use "life isn't fair" as a cop-out for their mistakes.
## Generally Speaking
People use "life isn't fair" as a cop-out for making once-repairable mistakes.
Allow me to explain the guts of my view. But first, I'd like to put some terminology here so we're all talk... | Is it fair that one person gets cancer and another doesn't?
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When you take away all social conditions, life is inherently unfair, b... | lerska | CMV: Life *is* fair. In general, people too often use "life isn't fair" as a cop-out for their mistakes. | ## Generally Speaking
People use "life isn't fair" as a cop-out for making once-repairable mistakes.
Allow me to explain the guts of my view. But first, I'd like to put some terminology here so we're all talking about the same thing:
* "Equality" is when everyone has exactly the same thing across the board, reg... | juicykitten22 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Heroin should be sold in Liquor Stores
There are barely any people who refuse to use heroin because it is illegal. Most people who don't do heroin don't use because they know it'll mess their life up.
Heroin being a regulated market that has purity standards would prevent more overdose deaths than it would cause... | >There are barely any people who refuse to use heroin because it is illegal. Most people who don't do heroin don't use because they know it'll mess their life up.
I think you're overlooking a significant number of people who would fall into a third category... people who could or would, if presented with the opportuni... | But wouldn't legalizing heroin send the message the government thinks it's safe and won't mess your life up.
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>But wouldn't legalizing heroin send the message the government thinks it's safe and won't mess your life up.
No. Alcohol is legal and can easily mess up your life. | 1c6hddf | CMV: Heroin should be sold in Liquor Stores | There are barely any people who refuse to use heroin because it is illegal. Most people who don't do heroin don't use because they know it'll mess their life up.
Heroin being a regulated market that has purity standards would prevent more overdose deaths than it would cause by creating more users.
I genuinely believ... | LebrontosaurausRex | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The most important cause I can devote my life to right now is the environment
If I wanted to spend the rest of my life making the world a better place for humans and other animals, I should devote my time to environmental causes such as minimizing climate change, deforestation, clean oceans, etc. before directly ... | The trouble is, it's really hard to care about the environment if your kids are starving, if your mom's dying of leukaemia, if your uncle was killed by a car bomb, if your sister was kidnapped and taken to a brothel, etc.
You're going to have a very hard time convincing human kind to stop valuing each other so much, a... | Your most important cause is to be self sustainable as much as possible, then, lead by example.
You are nobody, a nobody with high ambitions and no clue.
Wanna devote your life to something? Start with yourself. Once you can hold your head above water, than start looking for more people you can save.
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Okay, but i... | cmtrlq | CMV: The most important cause I can devote my life to right now is the environment | If I wanted to spend the rest of my life making the world a better place for humans and other animals, I should devote my time to environmental causes such as minimizing climate change, deforestation, clean oceans, etc. before directly taking on other important issues such as poverty, disease, terrorism, human traffick... | TapiocaTuesday | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The “Size Inclusive” movement is detrimental to public health and serves merely as a retail marketing gimmick.
There is somewhat of a movement that goes under a few names (fat positive, size inclusive, body positive, maybe some more), but they all mean basically the same thing: it’s okay to be fat.
I think this... | What about being able to buy clothes that fit you is a gimmick?
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The argument is that marketing clothing (or any other products) to people under the guise of a “size inclusive” movement is a gimmick. Plus sized clothing has existed for decades, long before this movement. To clarify, the argument is not against buy... | TLDR but it is not unhealthy at all to be what most people deem “fat” or over weight, it’s way more dangerous to have a couple glasses of wine every now and then, but no one bitches at you for that life decision.
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I know a guy that died because he was fat
I know another guy that is dying because he's an alcoholic... | lelt6f | CMV: The “Size Inclusive” movement is detrimental to public health and serves merely as a retail marketing gimmick. | There is somewhat of a movement that goes under a few names (fat positive, size inclusive, body positive, maybe some more), but they all mean basically the same thing: it’s okay to be fat.
I think this is terrible. It’s not okay to be fat.
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CMV: a worker’s replaceability should not drive down their wages
From my perspective, it’s morally problematic and practically unsustainable to allow a “free market” calculus of employer demand and worker supply to drive wages.
The question shouldn’t be whether the particular worker can be replaced with another work... | Yeah but what do you think should be done to bring that about? That's the real question. It's all well and good to make ethical considerations for how aspects of the economy ought to be, but the economy doesn't run on ethics, it runs on structural incentives like profit or supply and demand. If the supply of labor is h... | >The question shouldn’t be whether the particular worker can be replaced with another worker. The question is whether someone doing the job is necessary to the company’s profit model (or the successful fulfillment of a non-profit or government entity’s mission).
>In the past, I have been unpersuaded by counter-argumen... | 184grel | CMV: a worker’s replaceability should not drive down their wages | From my perspective, it’s morally problematic and practically unsustainable to allow a “free market” calculus of employer demand and worker supply to drive wages.
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From my perspective, it’s morally problematic and practically unsustainable to allow a “free market” calculus of employer demand and worker supply to drive wages.
The question shouldn’t be whether the particular worker can be replaced with another work... | Yeah but what do you think should be done to bring that about? That's the real question. It's all well and good to make ethical considerations for how aspects of the economy ought to be, but the economy doesn't run on ethics, it runs on structural incentives like profit or supply and demand. If the supply of labor is h... | Are you suggesting government regulation would be better? Supply and demand is fair. Think of small businesses who can’t afford to pay a set $25/hr wage. They’d go out of business.
This would be a great post for r/capitalismvsocialism btw
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>Think of small businesses who can’t afford to pay a set $25/hr wage. The... | 184grel | CMV: a worker’s replaceability should not drive down their wages | From my perspective, it’s morally problematic and practically unsustainable to allow a “free market” calculus of employer demand and worker supply to drive wages.
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CMV: resignations from government institutions is not a helpful protest
With all the people in government positions that are seeing what’s happening and choosing to resign their positions… how is that helping? In fact, isn’t that worse? By resigning you’re choosing to be complicit where you could at least act in oppos... | They can't actually change anything and they don't want to be complicit in the actions of the administration.
You are overestimating what they can do.
They don't want to have to follow the orders given, so resigning is the only thing they can do
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I really doubt that’s the only thing they can do. There’s a lot ... | Ok, so person x is ordered by the admin to take an action they feel is illegal, unethical, unconstitutional, whatever. Instead of resigning, they refuse, and are subsequently fired. Instead your view what exactly is the distinction between the two? Why is one cowardly and the other isn’t?
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I don’t think those are ... | 1itjnis | CMV: resignations from government institutions is not a helpful protest | With all the people in government positions that are seeing what’s happening and choosing to resign their positions… how is that helping? In fact, isn’t that worse? By resigning you’re choosing to be complicit where you could at least act in opposition even if it’s just a matter of time before they’re forced to fire yo... | Real_Sartre | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Without being able to travel in space, traveling in time is stupid, useless and suicidal.
Edit: My view has changed. There were good arguments that I didn't consider and that have changed my view/thought.
Deltas have been awarded.
I still think it is an interesting idea to think about though.
Thank you to all th... | The problem is we have no idea how time travel would work and how it would interact with spacetime.
You're assuming that there is this 4D grid (x, y, z, *t* for time), and that time travel would simply adjust t. But without a working time machine there is absolutely no way of knowing this.
Perhaps in the realm of ti... | Well we can start with the fact that the universe doesn't really have any x, y, z coordinates so to speak. When you say that earth isn't where it was a few seconds ago, that's from the reference frame of something outside the galaxy. If we take earth as the reference frame, then we can state that the rest of the univer... | 6bgab1 | CMV: Without being able to travel in space, traveling in time is stupid, useless and suicidal. | Edit: My view has changed. There were good arguments that I didn't consider and that have changed my view/thought.
Deltas have been awarded.
I still think it is an interesting idea to think about though.
Thank you to all that discussed with me :D ...
I just had one of those famous shower thoughts: If humanity somehow... | Delta212212 | 2 | 2 | [
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Edit: My view has changed. There were good arguments that I didn't consider and that have changed my view/thought.
Deltas have been awarded.
I still think it is an interesting idea to think about though.
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Deltas have been awarded.
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CMV: The left is by definition unable to be fascist
We see a lot of back and forth on the internet about fascism these days. The accusation has been used ever since the term came into being, but with the big divide between left and right in the US, and people feeling truly threatened by the other side grabbing power, ... | The Eco list is flawed, and ultimately aligned with a European situation that doesn't really apply to the present day. But to poke at your points:
> Point 1, 2 and 5 basically say that fascists don't want to change things, rather they want to go back to an era where everything was better, where traditions were untarn... | Would it be possible if the left won power and implemented a purely leftist system, and then fifty years from now fought to maintain that system, could they then fit your criteria for fascism because they are attempting to maintain the traditional way of doing things?
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We see a lot of back and forth on the internet about fascism these days. The accusation has been used ever since the term came into being, but with the big divide between left and right in the US, and people feeling truly threatened by the other side grabbing power, ... | I think you're misreading Eco's points as a checklist for fascism when really it's more like a list of symptoms. If you don't have three of them that doesn't mean it's not fascist, really if you have any one of them you could potentially be considered fascist. He even admits several of the points on the list *cannot co... | Does this mean that the left must be constantly changing its values or policies?
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Not the core values, because those are simply that everyone should be treated equal. But yes, there will constantly be new discoveries of how people are not equal. New ways to exploit the system to gain an advantage for one person or... | zqlsmr | CMV: The left is by definition unable to be fascist | We see a lot of back and forth on the internet about fascism these days. The accusation has been used ever since the term came into being, but with the big divide between left and right in the US, and people feeling truly threatened by the other side grabbing power, the use of the accusation is more widespread than eve... | JiEToy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I believe that political experience is necessary for impactful legislation and high profile political roles and that USA's idea that an outsider will bring change is completely wrong
The 2 arguments behind my view are
1. Intuition - You need to understand how institutions work from the inside to use them to you... | JFK had [political experience] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy#Congressional_career_(1947%E2%80%931960) in the House of Representatives and was a senator from Massachusetts. President Carter also had [plenty of experience] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter). He was a state senator and governo... | It seems like your only metric for analyzing success and useful is "I can think of something good for these experienced people" and failure as "I can think of something bad for these inexperienced people".
_Surely_ you have to have a basic understanding of confirmation bias such that you aren't actually really satis... | 7wmoam | CMV: I believe that political experience is necessary for impactful legislation and high profile political roles and that USA's idea that an outsider will bring change is completely wrong | The 2 arguments behind my view are
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The 2 arguments behind my view are
1. Intuition - You need to understand how institutions work from the inside to use them to you... | Experience is not a qualifier for a position such as president. Because the presidency for any one person is only 8 years. Yes, you can be a politician for far longer. However, that is not then a good indication of how you will handle a presidency.
For example, in the nuclear power industry, education (a form of exper... | By this logic would you say it's also innapropriate for fresh graduates to work in industries that have no relevance to their degree major?
Experience will always trump theory, but I mean as a society we have people working in diverse positions with little experience. It works out.
Is this more an attack on the presi... | 7wmoam | CMV: I believe that political experience is necessary for impactful legislation and high profile political roles and that USA's idea that an outsider will bring change is completely wrong | The 2 arguments behind my view are
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CMV: in the 23rd century, the Beastie Boys may be considered "Classic" music but not "Classical" music
There's a throwaway joke in one of the later Star Trek movies of Beastie Boys being "Classical" music, and sure it's not a great joke, nor was it likely meant to be, but part of what would make that a better joke is ... | Don’t forget that the meaning of words change, and different people now have very different definitions of words ”classical”.
People who know their music history know that there are various periods: classical, baroque, modernist, etc., and that they are different.
People who don’t know that history think of anything... | Wasn't that a Futurama joke?
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I can't speak to whether it was also on Star Trek, but that joke is made in Futurama with Baby Got Back.
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If it's with Baby Got Back that's a much funnier joke. Now Star Trek really has to make this come true to save it (though that would also make the Futurama joke even funnier ... | 1n49cwm | CMV: in the 23rd century, the Beastie Boys may be considered "Classic" music but not "Classical" music | There's a throwaway joke in one of the later Star Trek movies of Beastie Boys being "Classical" music, and sure it's not a great joke, nor was it likely meant to be, but part of what would make that a better joke is if it actually came true.
I don't think it will. Eugene's Lament notwithstanding, I really don't see th... | poorestprince | 3 | 3 | [
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Cmv: infinite growth is possible under capitalism
Of the main criticisms of capitalist economic systems is the idea that a system built on fundamentally infinite expansion isn't sustainable. This post focuses on specificly refuting that point. Please don't try to use other criticisms of capitalism to disprove this tha... | >Even once we are passed the solar system the universe is literally growing at an accelerating rate. We literally will always have room to grow.
This is an incorrect interpretation of the reality of an expanding universe. The universe isn't growing, making new stars and galaxies out of nothing, creating infinite new ... | What do you mean by growth?
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Economic growth. More value being created. More resources being accessible. This invenitably leads to higher standards of living and larger populations.
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The trickle down effect?
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Sort of? Capitalism has lead to the largest standard of living increase in history. It's not so ... | 1itilnf | Cmv: infinite growth is possible under capitalism | Of the main criticisms of capitalist economic systems is the idea that a system built on fundamentally infinite expansion isn't sustainable. This post focuses on specificly refuting that point. Please don't try to use other criticisms of capitalism to disprove this that won't work.
The primary reason people use this t... | colepercy120 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: healthcare professionals should dress conservatively and professionally while seeing patients or in their public professional social media pages
Most of my life, I've always assumed healthcare workers dress very professionally: in a white coat, or appropriate (non-revealing, clean, and professional-appearing) bus... | >I've seen shirtless male physicians showing off their six-packs while promoting "rejuvenating" IV therapies, and female physicians dressed in a bikini or showing their cleavage/butt while selling cosmetic therapies. Essentially, capitalizing on their sex appeal to promote their brand.
I wouldn't describe these people... | >in the alternative/regenerative medicine space
Is this topic about healthcare professionals, or about healthcare professionals and charlatans?
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I agree -- a lot of them are definitely charlatans.
However, they are still "technically" healthcare professionals.
But also, not *all* regenerative/alternative profe... | 1ewrbfu | CMV: healthcare professionals should dress conservatively and professionally while seeing patients or in their public professional social media pages | Most of my life, I've always assumed healthcare workers dress very professionally: in a white coat, or appropriate (non-revealing, clean, and professional-appearing) business attire. It seems that more and more physicians are dressing *very* casually with more revealing (aka sexy) clothes these days. For some reason, t... | anonykitcat | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Believing in QAnon isn't a big deal
So, the basic idea is that there is some kind of Satanic pedophile cult in the government, right? What's wrong with believing that? That seems close to the bottom of the list of harmful possible beliefs. And even if this belief isn't true, it still may even be a good thing, bec... | Well, lets put aside the fact that people who held these beliefs staged an armed insurrection at the Capitol that lead to the deaths of five people.
It is a big deal because there is **zero** evidence for anything in the QAnon cannon of beliefs - **zero**. People who believe in this theory do so at the expense of all... | CHOP didn’t want to overthrow the government. They wanted to defund police forces they deemed abusive to the public and transfer allocated funds to other public services.
QANON stormed the capitol in a somewhat legitimate coup in order to attempt an overthrow of the government and disrupt the democratic process.
No,... | lempft | CMV: Believing in QAnon isn't a big deal | So, the basic idea is that there is some kind of Satanic pedophile cult in the government, right? What's wrong with believing that? That seems close to the bottom of the list of harmful possible beliefs. And even if this belief isn't true, it still may even be a good thing, because it means people are being more watchf... | webdevlets | 3 | 3 | [
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So, the basic idea is that there is some kind of Satanic pedophile cult in the government, right? What's wrong with believing that? That seems close to the bottom of the list of harmful possible beliefs. And even if this belief isn't true, it still may even be a good thing, bec... | CHOP didn’t want to overthrow the government. They wanted to defund police forces they deemed abusive to the public and transfer allocated funds to other public services.
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It is a big deal because there is **zero** evidence for anything in the QAnon cannon of beliefs - **zero**. People who believe in this theory do so at the expense of all... | lempft | CMV: Believing in QAnon isn't a big deal | So, the basic idea is that there is some kind of Satanic pedophile cult in the government, right? What's wrong with believing that? That seems close to the bottom of the list of harmful possible beliefs. And even if this belief isn't true, it still may even be a good thing, because it means people are being more watchf... | webdevlets | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Debt should not be forgiven
This post is a result of several posts I've seen over the last few days about forgiving student loan debt, but is not limited to student loans.
My view is that debt is a voluntary agreement between two parties that one party will supply money up front and the other party will pay it ... | Why should a child be responsible for a debt they didn’t incur?
Your first argument was that loans are s mutual agreement between two people.
If this is the case how can a child, who has no ability to accept or deny the terms and who likely doesn’t even have the mental capacity to understand the terms, be responsible... | Like you said a debt is a contract between two parties. This includes the fact that the borrower will be forgiven in certain circumstances. To quote you:
The fact that many **lenders** do not read the **laws surrounding the** contracts they sign or take the time to fully understand the
**laws surrounding** contracts ... | 7wlr6y | CMV: Debt should not be forgiven | This post is a result of several posts I've seen over the last few days about forgiving student loan debt, but is not limited to student loans.
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This post is a result of several posts I've seen over the last few days about forgiving student loan debt, but is not limited to student loans.
My view is that debt is a voluntary agreement between two parties that one party will supply money up front and the other party will pay it ... | Debt forgiveness != bankruptcy. There are in fact significant and substantial differences between them even though bankruptcy may involve the discharge of certain debts. I don't disagree with your general antipathy toward debt forgiveness (which seems to mostly come up in the form of like debt amnesty for student loans... | Just two arguments here to see what you think:
-Regarding bankruptcy and how you believe that debt should follow a person until they pay it off because they knowingly went into the agreement, I would say the whole current system systematically does not work in favor of those in poverty and it’s just a system for the r... | 7wlr6y | CMV: Debt should not be forgiven | This post is a result of several posts I've seen over the last few days about forgiving student loan debt, but is not limited to student loans.
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CMV: There are no such thing as bigger and smaller infinities
I've seen it mentioned a lot in math videos and conversations that there's infinities bigger than other infinities. I don't see how this could be and I think all the explanations I've heard for it are nonsensical.
For example, see this (Google AI) explanat... | It is provable that there is not a 1:1 mapping from real numbers to natural numbers. If you have a proof otherwise, present it.
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The only proof I know of is Cantor's proof (diagonal argument) that says this: Cantor used the diagonal argument to prove the uncountable nature of the real numbers. By constructing a li... | Easiest one is natural numbers vs irrational numbers.
Natural numbers go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.... Infinite.
Now, if we try to assign a natural number to each rational number, we are going to realize very fast that we can't.
1/(square root of 2), 2/(square root of 2), 3/(square root of 2), 4/(square root of 2)....
That ser... | 1n5nn9a | CMV: There are no such thing as bigger and smaller infinities | I've seen it mentioned a lot in math videos and conversations that there's infinities bigger than other infinities. I don't see how this could be and I think all the explanations I've heard for it are nonsensical.
For example, see this (Google AI) explanation when googling for "aleph null":
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CMV: Women should remain immune from the draft.
I recently read an article about how the high-court is being asked to review the draft, specifically the fact that only men are required to sign up for it. Call me old fashioned, but I don’t believe that women should be required to sign up for the draft.
Many think tha... | So I get forced to put my life on the line if the need arises while they get to stay home, yep seems fair.
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I guess I still believe that men should protect women and children, so I don’t necessarily see the problem with that statement.
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Even if you are a more traditional guy and think a gentleman protects his... | I don't think this should be made to be about sexism but about basic civil rights. The draft is an infringement on your basic freedoms and should only be justified if there is a state of emergency or a significant threat that needs to be addressed. If there is such a threat, every citizen should be able to be called up... | nuainp | CMV: Women should remain immune from the draft. | I recently read an article about how the high-court is being asked to review the draft, specifically the fact that only men are required to sign up for it. Call me old fashioned, but I don’t believe that women should be required to sign up for the draft.
Many think that it could mean holding on to sexist views, bu ju... | Treycie | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: there is a disturbing tendency of teenage girls in the US claiming to be transgender but are really not
Listening to a podcast featuring abigail shrier, who wrote a book about this topic.
"Their stories follow a pattern: A girl never expresses any discomfort with her biological sex until puberty, when anxiety ... | >The drastic increase in rate of teenage girls identifying as transgender is documented in a Brown university research scientist:
This study does not have the ability to document that.
What the study did is go to websites like transtrenders.com, and ask the parents who're on those explicitly anti-trans websites what ... | A central part of your thesis here seems to be that the narrow age range is peculiar and merits extra suspicion. I’d like to change your view on that point.
If anything, it happening peripubescently makes me think this is *more* likely an actual gender identity crisis. And I’m not sure why you think it makes it *les... | huv2o8 | CMV: there is a disturbing tendency of teenage girls in the US claiming to be transgender but are really not | Listening to a podcast featuring abigail shrier, who wrote a book about this topic.
"Their stories follow a pattern: A girl never expresses any discomfort with her biological sex until puberty, when anxiety and depression descend. The girl struggles to make friends. She immerses in social media and discovers transge... | thisdamnhoneybadger | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: laundering money through international banks is superior to laundering through crypto
I am the head of an international drug cartel. I produce and distribute billions of dollars worth of narcotics yearly. I have a relationship with several international banks who are happy to take my cash deposits and obfuscate t... | You’re thinking about the problem wrong. The question as the head of an international guava cartel is not “which laundering method is best,” it’s “how many laundering methods can I use?”
You need two things—scale and diversity. One of the biggest problems you have is too much money.
$2 billion of Pablo Escobar’... | Crypto is more than Bitcoin, and in this case using [Monero](https://www.getmonero.org/) would probably be better.
It's funny how you presented your view btw.
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In order to buy into monero, I still need to get my fiat into the system. It’s international banking with extra steps.
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But once you buy it it's supp... | zqm7f6 | CMV: laundering money through international banks is superior to laundering through crypto | I am the head of an international drug cartel. I produce and distribute billions of dollars worth of narcotics yearly. I have a relationship with several international banks who are happy to take my cash deposits and obfuscate the origins of my money in exchange for commissions and fees. The banks are happy to do busin... | Kingsley-Zissou | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Serena Williams can be considered the greatest tennis player without the female qualifier
I’m not here to argue that she is or she isn’t. I don’t think there’s much merit in arguing that since we all value things differently. I’m here to say she doesn’t need to have the “female” qualifier attached to her like Joh... | >CMV: Serena Williams can be considered the greatest tennis player without the female qualifier
You qualified 'greatest' to be:
>...For me greatest is a mix of your dominance in the sport and your contribution to it. Which Serena has accomplished both....
Yes, in the 'Female' category.
So, ......you inadvertently... | Okay? Counterargument that also agrees with you? She HERSELF said she ranks 300 compared to men. So yeah. This isnt even a debate
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That’s a matter of fact. She can’t beat 300 men on the list. Thats not the greatest of all time.
Ask Mayweather if he can beat a list of the current heavy weights in his prime. Guar... | 1lp0217 | CMV: Serena Williams can be considered the greatest tennis player without the female qualifier | I’m not here to argue that she is or she isn’t. I don’t think there’s much merit in arguing that since we all value things differently. I’m here to say she doesn’t need to have the “female” qualifier attached to her like John McEnroe had said. He said she’s not the greatest and only the greatest female player.
And I ... | Illustrious_Ad_1117 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Religion is bad, but we shouldn't force people not to be religious.
Ok, so this is my view in a nutshell: Religion is bad and shouldn't be a thing, but we shouldn't achieve that through force. The crux of this idea basically is that we will not effectively be able to get rid of religion through force or oppressio... | Why is every religion bad?
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Because religion invites non empirical illogical thinking.
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What is illogical or non empirical about Satanism or Buddhism? Neither of those religions require you believe any illogical or non empirical claims.
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Atheistic religions aren't a thing as far as I'm aware.
I would ... | There are some social benefits to being part of an organized religion that are hard to replace. Often there is no effort to replace it, instead just an effort to remove it. If you want to get rid of religion, just shunning and education are shortsighted, you also need the equivalent of an atheist church (there are some... | 1c6cgh7 | CMV: Religion is bad, but we shouldn't force people not to be religious. | Ok, so this is my view in a nutshell: Religion is bad and shouldn't be a thing, but we shouldn't achieve that through force. The crux of this idea basically is that we will not effectively be able to get rid of religion through force or oppression, we would instead much more effectively get rid of it through education ... | DesideriumScientiae | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: people who feel "retroactive jealousy" are better off not committing in modern times
Retroactive jealousy is when your partner's sexual past makes you feel all fucked up, basically.
Well the odds are that in a sexually free society whoever you're dating has a sexual history
The conventional wisdom is always mUh... | OK, but what if they DO want a long term relationship, but are prevented by their retroactive jealously maintaining a relationship.
Sure, if someone would have retroactive jealously in a relationship AND is happy to be single then more power to them, but some people really want relationships.
Like someone can have bo... | So basically, someone who may deal with confidence or other personal issues doesn't deserve to heal and be in a healthy relationship?
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Oh I'm not commanding them lol.
They're welcome to try.
But I suspect it'll usually end up in the same place. Viscerally repulsed.
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So you don't believe in dealing with men... | nu29gm | CMV: people who feel "retroactive jealousy" are better off not committing in modern times | Retroactive jealousy is when your partner's sexual past makes you feel all fucked up, basically.
Well the odds are that in a sexually free society whoever you're dating has a sexual history
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CMV: We should universally agree that you only need to clear the lint trap BEFORE you dry your clothes.
Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems like the current meta is to clear the lint trap AFTER you dry your clothes, but here’s why I think that’s wrong.
Even with this social rule in place we still have to check the lint tr... | I live in an apartment with a shared washer and dryer. Rules are to clean your lint after you dry your own clothes so the next person that comes along doesn't need to clean out your clothes' lint from the tray.
Plus nobody wants to clean someone elses lint. It's always good to check before, but I've never had to cle... | One word. Dust.
Main danger of lint is dryer catching fire during operation. Secondary is that some lint might go to your clean clothes. Neither in these cases it matters if you clean before or after using the dryer.
But if you leave your dust fester in your dryer you increase dust in your household. This might be mi... | n4iuj8 | CMV: We should universally agree that you only need to clear the lint trap BEFORE you dry your clothes. | Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems like the current meta is to clear the lint trap AFTER you dry your clothes, but here’s why I think that’s wrong.
Even with this social rule in place we still have to check the lint trap before we dry anyway, just in case the last guy forgot or was an ahole. And if we forget to clear the ... | tiltshipcryrebuy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: ALL states should require vaccinations or else your child can't attend public schools.
So, the fact that all states haven't implemented this is beyond me. When a child goes to another school unvaccinated they're spreading the risk of carrying diseases to other children. In my eyes, you can live your life however ... | This is something I believe is morally wrong to CMV for the sake of it.
The only approach I could go for is "where should be the limit"?
Vaccines for stuff like small pox, polio, etc. which have proven to work SHOULD be required unless the kid has a really special symptom against the vaccine (which then there are o... | If your kid is vaccinated and mine isn’t. Then why does it matter? Your kid can’t get the disease from mine if they are immune. So if the anti vax kids get a disease, that’s sort of on the parents right? Didn’t affect you at all. We make this distinction about other things all the time.
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I would think the issue wo... | 1itj5l9 | CMV: ALL states should require vaccinations or else your child can't attend public schools. | So, the fact that all states haven't implemented this is beyond me. When a child goes to another school unvaccinated they're spreading the risk of carrying diseases to other children. In my eyes, you can live your life however you want but once you start endangering others, we have a problem. iirc, 30 states already re... | ElegantPoet3386 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: American democracy is doomed
Like many, the news of Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death has sent me into a fit of remorse. I can't shake the feeling and thought I'd turn to one of my favourite subreddits to talk me out of it.
The foundation of my argument is that, in light of the events in the last two years particul... | [deleted]
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This is a fair criticism of how I presented my stance. To elaborate more, Trump and his campaign officials have "joked" about being owed a third term, establishing a political dynasty through his family members being elected, etc. Given that we have seen invitations to meddle in our elections, attempts ... | Your viewpoint is so warped and depressing. The democrats are actively burning our cities and threatening to tear the system down. So yes, the US constitutional republic could be in trouble if the democrats get power to expand, the courts, add states, and do away with the electoral college.
EDIT: there is so much I di... | ixugiy | CMV: American democracy is doomed |
Like many, the news of Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death has sent me into a fit of remorse. I can't shake the feeling and thought I'd turn to one of my favourite subreddits to talk me out of it.
The foundation of my argument is that, in light of the events in the last two years particularly, the Republican party has comp... | _Love_Punch | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Trump's aim isn't peace in Ukraine
Like most of us I've been watching in horror as Trump more or less abandons Ukraine and looks for trading opportunities with Russia. I've been trying to make sense of it, why would the author of 'the art of the deal' offer Putin everything he wants? That's not how you negotiate.... | I don’t know if it’s theatre to create fear. Donny just wants to appear that he’s saving money. If he can claim he ended the war in Ukraine, Donny can claim he’s saved the U.S. taxpayer’s money. That helps his broader plan of giving his rich supports tax breaks.
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The problem with that idea is that he would need to... | Art of The Deal was ghost written. So "author"
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To be fair I made that reference glibly but even Trump knows you don't start a negotiation by offering the other side exactly what they want.
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No he doesn't. Every American president prior to him had given North Korea preconditions before agreeing to a meeting. ... | 1itic04 | CMV: Trump's aim isn't peace in Ukraine | Like most of us I've been watching in horror as Trump more or less abandons Ukraine and looks for trading opportunities with Russia. I've been trying to make sense of it, why would the author of 'the art of the deal' offer Putin everything he wants? That's not how you negotiate. Or at least it's not if he was trying to... | Subtleiaint | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Sanders and Warren will beat Biden if (and only if) one drops out and runs as the other's vp NOW
Assuming that Sanders and Warren are both ideology-driven candidates, running for the primary purpose of furthering their (mostly overlapping) agenda, they should form a running coalition in which one drops out to run... | What if Biden or Bernie has a stroke and dies? This isn't really an insane hypothetical they are in their 70s.
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Fair hypothetical! I don't think 70 year olds with access to the highest medical care available have >50% chance of this happening, but I'd be interested to see the stats.
If it's <50%, I don't think it... | We learned in 2016 that you have to take poll data with a grain of salt. I feel like once the primaries begin Bidens lead will deminish. & You make a good point about Sanders and Warren sharing the same votes but I think state by state, one or the other would end up with all of the progressive votes in that state. For ... | cmrrgp | CMV: Sanders and Warren will beat Biden if (and only if) one drops out and runs as the other's vp NOW | Assuming that Sanders and Warren are both ideology-driven candidates, running for the primary purpose of furthering their (mostly overlapping) agenda, they should form a running coalition in which one drops out to run as the other's running mate, thus giving them a fighting chance at one of them getting the nomination.... | Yamochao | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Sanders and Warren will beat Biden if (and only if) one drops out and runs as the other's vp NOW
Assuming that Sanders and Warren are both ideology-driven candidates, running for the primary purpose of furthering their (mostly overlapping) agenda, they should form a running coalition in which one drops out to run... | I tend to agree with your broader view about one dropping out to support the other, and specifically think Bernie should drop to support Warren, but I disagree with your premise that it should happen now. Right now is the time to win the battle of policy ideas, and taking one progressive champion off the debate stage o... | [removed]
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CMV: Apple is a horrible company that abuses its userbase more than any other company
Apple is a terrible company that severely mistreats it's customers. No other company has ever restricted their platforms such that escaping their ecosystem is impossible the way that Apple has.
A prime example of this is iTunes. Mus... | No one is really forced to use Apple products its not like an ISP or Utility or some other kind of company that can have a near monopoly. People choose to buy Apple products.
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My point is that once you've started using their products, they make it near impossible to switch to a competitor.
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Hows is it even ha... | More than ANY other company? I would think that tobacco companies abuse their consumers more than Apple.
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A tobacco company can't possibly stop you from buying a different brand. Apple products make switching to something else extremely expensive by holding your data (iTunes and iCloud) hostage, as well as forcin... | 6e3pdp | CMV: Apple is a horrible company that abuses its userbase more than any other company | Apple is a terrible company that severely mistreats it's customers. No other company has ever restricted their platforms such that escaping their ecosystem is impossible the way that Apple has.
A prime example of this is iTunes. Music purchases made on iTunes cannot be easily or particularly legally exported out of iT... | AxisFlame | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: the term ‘defund the police’ is intentionally misleading and antagonist.
When I first heard the term defund the police, I thought, ahh my radical leftist friends at it again, but as I was educated on its meaning - that is we ask police to do a lot of jobs that they are not designed or well equipped for and should... | What would you have people say instead of defund? They are pretty literally using the definition here.
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Defund does not mean reduce funding. It literally means to remove all the funding. So no they are not using the definition, and it is very misleading | It isn't "get rid of all police" or "have no police".
We need a lot of reforms and the main things standing in the way have been things like:
* Police unions
* Police culture
* Police leadership
We been trying incremental changes and reform pushes for decades. It is becoming more and more clear that what we need is... | hup28j | CMV: the term ‘defund the police’ is intentionally misleading and antagonist. | When I first heard the term defund the police, I thought, ahh my radical leftist friends at it again, but as I was educated on its meaning - that is we ask police to do a lot of jobs that they are not designed or well equipped for and should fund other solutions to solve those problems - I was an easy convert. But it h... | MasterCrumb | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: For white females, black lives matter is the new punk/goth culture - and they don't really care about black lives.
I don't think that its a coincidence that nearly every female protester / BLM supporter is also sporting the stereotypically punk look - with the: Septum ring, koolaid in their hair, usually a little... | What about women of other races that don't fit that characteristic but still openly support BLM? Justice reform, equally, and police accountability aren't edgy ideas and speaking out about inequality is not something that makes people 'unique' or something I would think of when I think of dad issues.
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That's what ... | I guess I'm one of the exceptions in terms of appearance.
Anyways, why does someone's appearance mean they aren't genuine? Why weren't punks genuine in their grievances against "the system"?
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Its a fair point that they may be genuine and that its not fair of me to assume their participation to be nefarious, but I... | ixsvgt | CMV: For white females, black lives matter is the new punk/goth culture - and they don't really care about black lives. | I don't think that its a coincidence that nearly every female protester / BLM supporter is also sporting the stereotypically punk look - with the: Septum ring, koolaid in their hair, usually a little over weight, and harshly anti male mentality through their social media posts.
There is something about this movement t... | cockfan006 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Israel is better than Palestine
I know that Israel is committing atrocities in Gaza and allow illegal settlements in the West Bank. It's horrible. But the Palestinians aren't better. They would do the same evil if they had the ability to do it. Look at Ocotber 7th. 85% to 90% of the People in the West Bank said i... | It's almost like a country backed by the military strength of the USA and global funding will have better outcomes than a place which operates under a blockade, and isn't even recognised as a country.
Whodathunkit.
You're comparing the two at the most basic level, with no consideration as to why one country is doing ... | this is bait
"they lose their land, but fair and square during war so just give it up to them"
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Rule 2 my man. | 1ew0h9m | CMV: Israel is better than Palestine | I know that Israel is committing atrocities in Gaza and allow illegal settlements in the West Bank. It's horrible. But the Palestinians aren't better. They would do the same evil if they had the ability to do it. Look at Ocotber 7th. 85% to 90% of the People in the West Bank said in a survey that Hamas didn't committed... | Soma_Man77 | 3 | 3 | [
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