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CMV: PizzaGate hasn't yet been fully debunked. Now, if by *pizzagate* we mean the claim that Hillary Clinton is running a pedophile ring in Comet Ping Pong then ok, it has been debunked. But some things in this whole story do not have any explaination to their creepiness. What really uncannies me is the following: ...
> The Podesta emails do have some emails that I'm 99% sure are a code for something You are an outsider reading emails without context. You don't know about inside jokes, references, or how people personally relate to each other. Imagine an old person seeing people on the internet talking about "pickle rick". They'd t...
Its true the pizzagate hasn't been fully debunked. But that is a logically problematic way to look at things. Russell's teapot hasn't been fully debunked [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot] and never will be. --- But PizzaGate isn't like a teapot orbiting Earth, there is circumstantial evidence that s...
7befsc
CMV: PizzaGate hasn't yet been fully debunked.
Now, if by *pizzagate* we mean the claim that Hillary Clinton is running a pedophile ring in Comet Ping Pong then ok, it has been debunked. But some things in this whole story do not have any explaination to their creepiness. What really uncannies me is the following: * The Podesta emails do have some emails that I'...
Authwarth
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CMV: Censorship within /r/WorldNews is dangerous /r/WorldNews is the largest subreddit on reddit, and controlling the narrative with permabans for widely supported views is dangerous and promotes a one sided story. It creates a self perpetuating echo chamber. I was permabanned instantly for saying that Israel is enf...
You say that it's dangerous, but you don't really explain *why* it is dangerous. Reddit is a small social media site, in the grand scheme of things. r/worldnews is a small portion of Reddit. It may be the single most-subscribed sub, but that doesn't mean that it's the most influential. Those subscriptions don't necessa...
If this behavior dissuades people from getting their news & news discussions from there, it’s a net benefit IMO. I don’t see r/WorldNews capturing the attention of anyone genuinely interested in current events beyond passive consumption. That being said, I don’t see it as any more dangerous than the way mainstream outl...
1gac58g
CMV: Censorship within /r/WorldNews is dangerous
/r/WorldNews is the largest subreddit on reddit, and controlling the narrative with permabans for widely supported views is dangerous and promotes a one sided story. It creates a self perpetuating echo chamber. I was permabanned instantly for saying that Israel is enforcing an apartheid. Something many extensive Unit...
Pattern_Is_Movement
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[ { "author": "appreciatescolor", "id": "ltclo5e", "score": 12, "text": "If this behavior dissuades people from getting their news & news discussions from there, it’s a net benefit IMO. I don’t see r/WorldNews capturing the attention of anyone genuinely interested in current events beyond passive cons...
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CMV: There being a fight over the SC seat is a testament that the SC is broken As the title implies, I believe that the very fact that there is this much of a fight over who gets to sit on the US Supreme Court means that the SC is broken as an institution. The very fact that politicians and people at large talk of a c...
For clarification, when you says SC is broken as institutions, do you mean that the way SC operates is broken or just the selection process or both? Because the selection process has nothing to so with the SC but rather president and the senates. --- To me, the selection process is a consequence of the way the SC op...
I certainly can't fault you there. Courts all over the West have been progressively more politicised. People go into law and become judges, not to protect basic rights, but to create more laws, more regulation, all from a partisan perspective. What would you rather the situation be instead of what the US has currently...
iy70jk
CMV: There being a fight over the SC seat is a testament that the SC is broken
As the title implies, I believe that the very fact that there is this much of a fight over who gets to sit on the US Supreme Court means that the SC is broken as an institution. The very fact that politicians and people at large talk of a conservative or liberal bias in the SC means that it isn't neutral. People argui...
Ocadioan
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CMV: if an omnipotent God exists, we can’t meaningfully understand much about him. I used to believe that the existence of God was pretty much impossible. I no longer think that, but I’d still say he’s more likely to not exist than to exist, but I’m willing to consider what we should do if he does exist. Mainstream t...
things i think you can know about an omnipotent god: - he created the universe, the laws of physics, causality, and the limits of possibility. - by knowing and having the power to control every detail, he is the author of every event that has, or will have happened, and that free will is in conflict with an omnipoten...
>Mainstream theology seems to have a paradox to clear: you can’t know God until you have faith, but you also obviously can’t know which God to have faith in until you know which God is real. >It seems to me that this is an impossible hurdle to get past using reason. You have to either take a leap of faith and hope you...
1it2cbs
CMV: if an omnipotent God exists, we can’t meaningfully understand much about him.
I used to believe that the existence of God was pretty much impossible. I no longer think that, but I’d still say he’s more likely to not exist than to exist, but I’m willing to consider what we should do if he does exist. Mainstream theology seems to have a paradox to clear: you can’t know God until you have faith, b...
TangoJavaTJ
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CMV: The government should make many more things free. Currently, a lot of stuff you do with the government has a fee attached to it. For example: getting or renewing a drivers license, registering a car, getting a passport, filing a lawsuit, accessing court records, forming a company, getting a business license, etc...
If a person doesn't use a government service, is it really fair to make them pay for it? Granted, that's mostly how taxes work already, but you'll just be adding onto that concept. However, I do believe a lot of business licenses are absurd, *especially* when there are a limited number of licenses being provided. In f...
By doing his your effectively create a financial whammy in the government which trickles down to citizens. The fees covers the resources needed to complete these activities, i.e. admin staff wages and materials needed, but also generate income for the government. By taking away the fees you are asking the government t...
817vto
CMV: The government should make many more things free.
Currently, a lot of stuff you do with the government has a fee attached to it. For example: getting or renewing a drivers license, registering a car, getting a passport, filing a lawsuit, accessing court records, forming a company, getting a business license, etc. I think these should be free, and the costs associate...
huadpe
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CMV: The government should make many more things free. Currently, a lot of stuff you do with the government has a fee attached to it. For example: getting or renewing a drivers license, registering a car, getting a passport, filing a lawsuit, accessing court records, forming a company, getting a business license, etc...
Other than the drivers license and maybe registering the car, all of the things you listed are things that only the middle or upper class would do. Poor people generally don’t file many lawsuits or start many businesses. By switching the payment for these things into a tax, you are shifting some of that economic burd...
What if those fees help pay for the infrastructure of those services/entities. --- Taxes should be used instead. --- Then it still wouldn’t be “*free*”.
817vto
CMV: The government should make many more things free.
Currently, a lot of stuff you do with the government has a fee attached to it. For example: getting or renewing a drivers license, registering a car, getting a passport, filing a lawsuit, accessing court records, forming a company, getting a business license, etc. I think these should be free, and the costs associate...
huadpe
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CMV: Lying is morally permissible only if it benefits others and does not benefit oneself. I feel this rule properly embodies **the necessary flexibility for the occasional "benefical lie"**, while preventing potential abuse for one's own profit and also self-deception. Some examples of the most common self-benefits ...
What about lying to someone to protect yourself from them harming you? --- My problem is that this exception can be a very slippery slope. Definitely justified in _some cases_, but also definitely prone to self-deception / misuse. *i.e. someone unwarrantedly feeling defensive could construe almost anything as "self-...
(Ok, I kinda dislike taking such a rigid position on morality, since I believe it holds more fluidity and relativity based on it's inherent conception and our comprehension of it. Nevertheless, I'll try to approach the argument using current social perception and application of morality, as well as what you (as an aver...
pif4di
CMV: Lying is morally permissible only if it benefits others and does not benefit oneself.
I feel this rule properly embodies **the necessary flexibility for the occasional "benefical lie"**, while preventing potential abuse for one's own profit and also self-deception. Some examples of the most common self-benefits that one should look out for and avoid when lying: * Money * Power * Status * Sex If you o...
hookdump
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CMV: The colonization of America and resulting decline of the Native American nations was not wrong. Since the beginning of human history populations have conquered and destroyed others to secure their own interests. I don’t think what was done to the Native Americans was wrong, it was simply a result of the basic pri...
Saying "we have always done it" and "its natural" are really not good arguments. We don't still support genocide. The vast majority of the world does not partake in genocide, the majority openly look down on genocide, the majority do not think genocide should occur or ever happen. With our morals now, which are "ge...
>Since the beginning of human history populations have conquered and destroyed others to secure their own interests. So your argument is that a lot of people did it so it can't be bad? Why does something happening a lot in history mean that it's good? --- I said it wasn’t wrong, not that it was good. The process...
7aoosq
CMV: The colonization of America and resulting decline of the Native American nations was not wrong.
Since the beginning of human history populations have conquered and destroyed others to secure their own interests. I don’t think what was done to the Native Americans was wrong, it was simply a result of the basic principle of putting one’s own interests before the interests of others, a principle which is still adher...
_Project2501
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CMV: Assuming to know or deciding what others are thinking has become commonplace and generally accepted when a majority (or vocal minority) has decided on a viewpoint. This is largely based on observation. Over the past few years I've regularly seen situations pop up where certain phrases or ideas cause people to au...
Many phrases and slogans have essentially become symbolic shorthand for certain systems of belief. For example, when someone uses #BlackLivesMatter, you can generally assume that they believe there are systematic issues with police brutality against minorities in the US. Similarly, when some uses #AllLivesMatter, you...
"Separate but equal" when taken literally appears to advocate for equality, but it's intent was anything but. Same with "all men are created equal", which sounds like "all lives matter". It's great if you literally mean what you say, but in the case of "all men are created equal", it didn't really mean *all*, despite ...
m5rq8c
CMV: Assuming to know or deciding what others are thinking has become commonplace and generally accepted when a majority (or vocal minority) has decided on a viewpoint.
This is largely based on observation. Over the past few years I've regularly seen situations pop up where certain phrases or ideas cause people to automatically assume to know what the person stating it is thinking. And the assumption is nearly always one of bad faith. Most recently, for instance, responding to the ...
seasonalblah
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CMV: Bottlegate was justified. For those who don't know, there was a Browns-Jaguars game in 2001. For the Browns, it was late in the season and with that particular game, there was a playoff spot on the line 4th down with 48 seconds to go and the Browns in scoring position down 15-10, referees called a 1st down. Wit...
People were justified in being angry. I don't think anyone denies that. But escalating to violence *over a game* is just not acceptable in any scenario. --- I feel like "a game" loses its inherently whimsical nature when you have high priced tickets and careers on the line. It's an event about moving a ball, but at...
Would you be okay with people throwing bottles at you if you make a mistake at your job? What other professions do you think it's acceptable to throw bottles at besides referees? --- I think it depends on its entierly acceptable (unless they were plastic bottles) but I would put that as close to the biggest possible ...
1gaawqo
CMV: Bottlegate was justified.
For those who don't know, there was a Browns-Jaguars game in 2001. For the Browns, it was late in the season and with that particular game, there was a playoff spot on the line 4th down with 48 seconds to go and the Browns in scoring position down 15-10, referees called a 1st down. With time of the essence, Tim Couch...
BunnyPatrol2001
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CMV: The reason why homophobia is a thing and/or the gay community is disliked sometimes is because of the idea of "gay pride" Why can't people just be gay, so many are gay and proud. I understand it hasn't always been socially accepted, but it is now. How come people are just now being super proud about it even thoug...
So before gay pride was a concept homophobia didn’t exist, is that what your getting at? Because when I take a gander at history it’s the reverse. As gay pride has become more of a thing so has acceptance for gay people. So I’m not sure why you think it is detrimental to the cause. --- Not exactly, but close. We don...
> How come people are just now being proud about it, even though a majority support it First, 'majority' is shaky at best when the VP of the United States supportes conversion therapy. But I agree that there is more support for gay rights today than say, 15 years ago. Which I think is why you see more pride stuff. So...
fgxvye
CMV: The reason why homophobia is a thing and/or the gay community is disliked sometimes is because of the idea of "gay pride"
Why can't people just be gay, so many are gay and proud. I understand it hasn't always been socially accepted, but it is now. How come people are just now being super proud about it even though majority of people are now okay with it. It just doesn't make sense, straight people do not usually spread that they're straig...
efan9411
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CMV: Flat Earth 2.0 is happening right now in the form of the ability to transsex. I do not believe in the ability to transsex, mainly because I do believe that: Human females cannot become Males, vice versa. But, in the future, it will be a different story. there will be a safe and profitable industry for human to ...
I’ve tried and I can’t understand what this is about. I’ve never heard anyone claim that swapping chromosomes is possible? Is this what you expect in the future? --- Yes. I never heard of that too, but I expect in the future we can have the ability to do that, change biological sex. Similar to IVF, with advanced te...
Imagine you see a person on a coffee shop. They look like your typical woman. They dress like one, sound like one, look like one. How do you know what their sex is? How will you ever know what their sex is? People don't deal with biological sex during their everyday life. They deal only with social gender. --- are y...
16d1v5o
CMV: Flat Earth 2.0 is happening right now in the form of the ability to transsex.
I do not believe in the ability to transsex, mainly because I do believe that: Human females cannot become Males, vice versa. But, in the future, it will be a different story. there will be a safe and profitable industry for human to change their biological sex. In the past, Flat Earth is most people subjective trut...
kagekyaa
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CMV: Employers should be allowed to decide employment status based on alcohol/tobacco use or gun ownership status. As someone who hopes to eventually start a business/company at some point, I feel employers should be allowed to dictate the actions of their employees outside the work space. I am leaving out Weed or ill...
>Firearms How do you realistically see this working? Are companies just going to start also having policies against people who use their first amendment right to express any view (dogs are better than cats, kids are dirty and gross, etc) they don’t like? How about people who don’t consent to police searches without a ...
“I think weed is practically harmless so I think an employer shouldn’t be able to discriminate against weed use but I think an employer should be able to discriminate against tobacco users because I think tobacco is gross.” What about all the people who think the smell of weed is gross? Not to mention, the bulk of th...
meervz
CMV: Employers should be allowed to decide employment status based on alcohol/tobacco use or gun ownership status.
As someone who hopes to eventually start a business/company at some point, I feel employers should be allowed to dictate the actions of their employees outside the work space. I am leaving out Weed or illegal drugs because weed is practically harmless, and well not using illegal drugs is already a clear reason not to h...
Andalib_Odulate
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CMV: Men's day should not coexist with Pride Month I want to start this off by saying that I'm not looking for any "gotchas" that will undermine either side, it's simply a "huh?" moment that I've recently gotten while arguing FOR the existence of pride month. The main purpose of pride month is to celebrate and highli...
wtf is mens day? --- Google is your friend. --- Google said International Men's Day is in November. So what *are* you referring to? --- I'm just saying that if you are going to celebrate Pride month in June, then don't celebrate Men's day in November later, that's the idea at least. --- But why not? They don't ...
Are you seriously calling Father's Day "men's day"? This is cringe, and you need to get off the Internet and go outside. --- A simple google search will disprove your allegations immediately. Resorting to insults is not the way to change my view, and I'm not advocating an agenda here. --- Men's day is in November...
1d8wiar
CMV: Men's day should not coexist with Pride Month
I want to start this off by saying that I'm not looking for any "gotchas" that will undermine either side, it's simply a "huh?" moment that I've recently gotten while arguing FOR the existence of pride month. The main purpose of pride month is to celebrate and highlight those that were historically marginalized for be...
FDFDHDHR800PP
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CMV: Eugenics, Implemented Properly, Is Not Only Beneficial; It's Responsible **Update:** My view has been changed! I could not be more grateful for this community, honestly. I thought that I was been logical, that I was proposing a tough decision because no one else could. I can say clearly now that I not only realiz...
I may have missed it but do you ever actually explain *why* you would want to implement eugenics in this post? What is the problem that you're looking to fix through this? What is the need that society has that eugenics intends to fulfill? It is morally objectionable for governments or institutions to forcefully cont...
What you are describing is not "voluntary", it is coercive by withholding generally available medical services on the premise of an only tangentially related behavior. This means that it can, and will, be abused, through a myriad of possible avenues. A) Those registering the "unfit" can accept bribes to "lose" or "mi...
6lnj7r
CMV: Eugenics, Implemented Properly, Is Not Only Beneficial; It's Responsible
**Update:** My view has been changed! I could not be more grateful for this community, honestly. I thought that I was been logical, that I was proposing a tough decision because no one else could. I can say clearly now that I not only realize the fault of my proposal, I'm disgusted by it. You all brought me to tears (e...
AdmiralAcid
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[ { "author": "MerrieLee", "id": "djv5hb5", "score": 7, "text": "I may have missed it but do you ever actually explain *why* you would want to implement eugenics in this post? What is the problem that you're looking to fix through this? What is the need that society has that eugenics intends to fulfil...
[ { "author": "Sand_Trout", "id": "djv60fy", "score": 32, "text": "What you are describing is not \"voluntary\", it is coercive by withholding generally available medical services on the premise of an only tangentially related behavior.\n\nThis means that it can, and will, be abused, through a myriad ...
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CMV: Eugenics, Implemented Properly, Is Not Only Beneficial; It's Responsible **Update:** My view has been changed! I could not be more grateful for this community, honestly. I thought that I was been logical, that I was proposing a tough decision because no one else could. I can say clearly now that I not only realiz...
I may have missed it but do you ever actually explain *why* you would want to implement eugenics in this post? What is the problem that you're looking to fix through this? What is the need that society has that eugenics intends to fulfill? It is morally objectionable for governments or institutions to forcefully cont...
> It is my belief that eugenics, much like nuclear technology, is generally viewed negatively due to its potential for great misuse. It's not the potential for misuse. It's the multiple examples of widespread tragedy. > Despite what my wording might indicate, I do want to understand why my views are so wrong. Am I de...
6lnj7r
CMV: Eugenics, Implemented Properly, Is Not Only Beneficial; It's Responsible
**Update:** My view has been changed! I could not be more grateful for this community, honestly. I thought that I was been logical, that I was proposing a tough decision because no one else could. I can say clearly now that I not only realize the fault of my proposal, I'm disgusted by it. You all brought me to tears (e...
AdmiralAcid
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[ { "author": "MerrieLee", "id": "djv5hb5", "score": 7, "text": "I may have missed it but do you ever actually explain *why* you would want to implement eugenics in this post? What is the problem that you're looking to fix through this? What is the need that society has that eugenics intends to fulfil...
[ { "author": "wugglesthemule", "id": "djv5vvp", "score": 8, "text": "> It is my belief that eugenics, much like nuclear technology, is generally viewed negatively due to its potential for great misuse.\n\nIt's not the potential for misuse. It's the multiple examples of widespread tragedy.\n\n> Despit...
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CMV: Eugenics, Implemented Properly, Is Not Only Beneficial; It's Responsible **Update:** My view has been changed! I could not be more grateful for this community, honestly. I thought that I was been logical, that I was proposing a tough decision because no one else could. I can say clearly now that I not only realiz...
I may have missed it but do you ever actually explain *why* you would want to implement eugenics in this post? What is the problem that you're looking to fix through this? What is the need that society has that eugenics intends to fulfill? It is morally objectionable for governments or institutions to forcefully cont...
What you are describing is not "voluntary", it is coercive by withholding generally available medical services on the premise of an only tangentially related behavior. This means that it can, and will, be abused, through a myriad of possible avenues. A) Those registering the "unfit" can accept bribes to "lose" or "mi...
6lnj7r
CMV: Eugenics, Implemented Properly, Is Not Only Beneficial; It's Responsible
**Update:** My view has been changed! I could not be more grateful for this community, honestly. I thought that I was been logical, that I was proposing a tough decision because no one else could. I can say clearly now that I not only realize the fault of my proposal, I'm disgusted by it. You all brought me to tears (e...
AdmiralAcid
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[ { "author": "MerrieLee", "id": "djv5hb5", "score": 7, "text": "I may have missed it but do you ever actually explain *why* you would want to implement eugenics in this post? What is the problem that you're looking to fix through this? What is the need that society has that eugenics intends to fulfil...
[ { "author": "Sand_Trout", "id": "djv60fy", "score": 32, "text": "What you are describing is not \"voluntary\", it is coercive by withholding generally available medical services on the premise of an only tangentially related behavior.\n\nThis means that it can, and will, be abused, through a myriad ...
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CMV: Invoking the 25th Amendment to remove POTUS is no more likely or different than impeaching POTUS. All discussions of its (mis)use are simply idle speculation There is quite a lot of talk about former Deputy Director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, who has brought back up the 25th amendment and the fact that the Presid...
I think the difference between impeachment and the 25th Amendment is who initiates the process. With impeachment, the assumption (and every time it's been tried in US history) is that the opposition party will be the ones to initiate the process. If the opposition party controls the House, they can impeach without a si...
Talk amongst the cabinet members who have the power of the 25th might not be idle or speculative. Talk amongst members of congress who hold the power of impeachment might not be idle or speculative. A straightforward use of the 25th would be if a POTUS were to suffer a stroke or go into a coma. GOP benefits from 45's w...
asdopm
CMV: Invoking the 25th Amendment to remove POTUS is no more likely or different than impeaching POTUS. All discussions of its (mis)use are simply idle speculation
There is quite a lot of talk about former Deputy Director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, who has brought back up the 25th amendment and the fact that the Presidential cabinet were discussing possibly declaring the President unfit for office(under section 4 of the 25th Amendment) For reference: ***25th Amendment Section 4...
PuckSR
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[ { "author": "VVillyD", "id": "egtlest", "score": 9, "text": "I think the difference between impeachment and the 25th Amendment is who initiates the process. With impeachment, the assumption (and every time it's been tried in US history) is that the opposition party will be the ones to initiate the p...
[ { "author": "[deleted]", "id": "egtj9lp", "score": -1, "text": "Talk amongst the cabinet members who have the power of the 25th might not be idle or speculative. Talk amongst members of congress who hold the power of impeachment might not be idle or speculative.\nA straightforward use of the 25th wo...
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CMV: the foot is a better unit of measurement than the meter For starters, I am a fan of the metric system. Even as an American, I am more than willing to admit that most of our units are ridiculous. I will contest, however, that when it comes to measuring length, the foot is significantly better than the meter. The ...
If only we could divide a meter into some unknown smaller unit of measurement --- Centimeters are better than inches for small things, meters are the same as yards for all practical purposes, but the foot is a nice middle ground that the metric system just doesn’t have. --- I think you're just used to feet and not ...
Yeah but feet stop being useful very quickly. How many feet in a mile? How many feet a kilometer? I honestly have no clue. I know if I want 1/10th of a kilometer I just need 100 meters. Not much to memorize here. The math is very easy. What about 1/10th of a mile with feet or yards? --- How many times in your lif...
18755en
CMV: the foot is a better unit of measurement than the meter
For starters, I am a fan of the metric system. Even as an American, I am more than willing to admit that most of our units are ridiculous. I will contest, however, that when it comes to measuring length, the foot is significantly better than the meter. The meter is simply too long to be practical for measuring everyda...
a_bit_of_a_misnomer_
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Cmv: Declaring your sexuality on national TV is not an act worth commending This opinion is in response to Philip Schofield, a presenter on 'This Morning' in the UK, coming out as gay on national TV recently. The guy was married for 27 years to his wife and has two children with her. He has now come out as gay and m...
>Marriage is a big commitment and it would hurt me a lot to think that after all those years my partner was lying to me and himself this whole time. I'm just going to respond on this particular point. When this guy got married nearly 30 years ago, it was still impossible for gay people to marry, and also publically u...
I think it is ***highly*** dependent upon the circumstances. The fact he is still married to his wife and has kids (don't know ages) makes it complicated. Apparently he has his wife and children's support. If he didn't however, then doing announcing something like this in public while still married could make things ex...
f0ybad
Cmv: Declaring your sexuality on national TV is not an act worth commending
This opinion is in response to Philip Schofield, a presenter on 'This Morning' in the UK, coming out as gay on national TV recently. The guy was married for 27 years to his wife and has two children with her. He has now come out as gay and made it a point to declare it on the show. I don't have any hate towards the L...
Tomoe_GoesIn
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[ { "author": "mr_indigo", "id": "fgzzw30", "score": 14, "text": ">Marriage is a big commitment and it would hurt me a lot to think that after all those years my partner was lying to me and himself this whole time.\n\nI'm just going to respond on this particular point. When this guy got married nearly...
[ { "author": "Canada_Constitution", "id": "fh007bz", "score": 2, "text": "I think it is ***highly*** dependent upon the circumstances. The fact he is still married to his wife and has kids (don't know ages) makes it complicated. Apparently he has his wife and children's support. If he didn't however,...
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Cmv: Declaring your sexuality on national TV is not an act worth commending This opinion is in response to Philip Schofield, a presenter on 'This Morning' in the UK, coming out as gay on national TV recently. The guy was married for 27 years to his wife and has two children with her. He has now come out as gay and m...
Here's the thing when high profile people publicly come out as gay or lesbian it can help ease the mind of a young person on accepting that they too are gay. It helps open discourse. For a long time I would say "who cares what sexuality some random celebrity is" but a few of my friends who are gay or bi told me about ...
Speaking out publicly about your sexuality, when your sexuality isn’t the “default mode”, is actually super courageous because there is so much fear and stigma associated with it. The reason any of these celebrities come out publicly is 1) so they can live their lives in honesty for the whole world to see, and 2) so ...
f0ybad
Cmv: Declaring your sexuality on national TV is not an act worth commending
This opinion is in response to Philip Schofield, a presenter on 'This Morning' in the UK, coming out as gay on national TV recently. The guy was married for 27 years to his wife and has two children with her. He has now come out as gay and made it a point to declare it on the show. I don't have any hate towards the L...
Tomoe_GoesIn
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[ { "author": "Cosmohumanist", "id": "fh01szi", "score": 1, "text": "Speaking out publicly about your sexuality, when your sexuality isn’t the “default mode”, is actually super courageous because there is so much fear and stigma associated with it. \n\nThe reason any of these celebrities come out publ...
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CMV: Suicide isn't selfish and people that say it is are selfish. I've taken it down. My mind had changed. I feel like such an asshole for even thinking how I did. I just want it to stop. I have so much going for me but I can't be happy. I feel like such an asshole
So if someone is providing for their family, raising kids while playin an important role in people’s lives, and they decide to commit suicide, is that not selfish? --- The selfish act is the abandonment of the family. In that scenario suicide is just a means to an end --- You're kinda playing semantic games dude. I...
Someones lack of hope does not mean they should remove all possibilities from their future. Outside of some extremely rare cases, people who commit suicide are healthy, not in chronic pain, and are not suffering from extreme disorders in any aspect of health. It is selfish not because they are burdening those left beh...
nvgm9d
CMV: Suicide isn't selfish and people that say it is are selfish.
I've taken it down. My mind had changed. I feel like such an asshole for even thinking how I did. I just want it to stop. I have so much going for me but I can't be happy. I feel like such an asshole
imsosadplshelp
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[ { "author": "inomenata", "id": "h132ioy", "score": 108, "text": "Someones lack of hope does not mean they should remove all possibilities from their future. Outside of some extremely rare cases, people who commit suicide are healthy, not in chronic pain, and are not suffering from extreme disorders ...
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CMV: Suicide isn't selfish and people that say it is are selfish. I've taken it down. My mind had changed. I feel like such an asshole for even thinking how I did. I just want it to stop. I have so much going for me but I can't be happy. I feel like such an asshole
By your description, suicide is seeking personal comfort, or at least the end to personal suffering. Suicide harms those still alive who lost their friend/family member. So the act of suicide is something the person believes will benefit the self at the expense of others. That’s like textbook selfishness. --- B...
But in the same vein, isn’t that person’s suffering also transient too? You’ve mentioned a few reasons a person can commit suicide, and the thing is that all of them are things that, with appropriate support, can be mitigated or addressed. But once a person commits suicide, the absence they leave will be unable to ever...
nvgm9d
CMV: Suicide isn't selfish and people that say it is are selfish.
I've taken it down. My mind had changed. I feel like such an asshole for even thinking how I did. I just want it to stop. I have so much going for me but I can't be happy. I feel like such an asshole
imsosadplshelp
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[ { "author": "Yatagarasu513", "id": "h132rd5", "score": 1, "text": "But in the same vein, isn’t that person’s suffering also transient too? You’ve mentioned a few reasons a person can commit suicide, and the thing is that all of them are things that, with appropriate support, can be mitigated or addr...
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CMV: Handshaking between men is not discriminatory against women In some cultures it is customary for men to shake hands when they meet each other. Moreover, it is considered rude for a man to initiate the handshake with a woman, requiring the woman to do so if she desires to. While this custom may have a background ...
You've given no argument, though, only your conclusion. --- > I argue that since it holds no prejudice nor does it infringe upon their rights it should not be considered a discrimination. --- Well you are prejudging the women by believing that she will find it inappropriate to shake your hand solely on the basis o...
Well it may not be bigoted prejudice it is definitely discrimination. discriminate means to distinguish, single out, or make a distinction. Singling out women for their gender is just that. --- > discriminate means to distinguish, single out, or make a distinction For the meaning we are referring to it actually en...
d9yxmz
CMV: Handshaking between men is not discriminatory against women
In some cultures it is customary for men to shake hands when they meet each other. Moreover, it is considered rude for a man to initiate the handshake with a woman, requiring the woman to do so if she desires to. While this custom may have a background spawining from sexist views, to the best of my knowledge for the g...
Rimio
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[ { "author": "DocCannery84", "id": "f1m3xx3", "score": 9, "text": "You've given no argument, though, only your conclusion.", "timestamp": 1569583343 }, { "author": "Rimio", "id": "f1m41ea", "score": -2, "text": "> I argue that since it holds no prejudice nor does it infringe ...
[ { "author": "Lonecosmos", "id": "f1m4d33", "score": 4, "text": "Well it may not be bigoted prejudice it is definitely discrimination. \n\ndiscriminate means to distinguish, single out, or make a distinction. Singling out women for their gender is just that.", "timestamp": 1569583773 }, { ...
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CMV: Trump is doing cocaine First off I'm of no political party, I voted Independant. Facts first! Ok so to start you have never heard trump speak before his 2016 election without sniffing. I believe shortly after becoming president he keeps sniffing. He was told by somebody that cocaine will help him work better,...
Sniffing is a common nervous tactic. It is also a tatic for people who grow up with developmental delays/overloads (autistic spectrum) to public speak without awkward and massive gaps and makes it flow more than “umms and ahhs”. What are your other reasons? Erratic behaviour? No filter? Those all line up with being o...
its flu season, and being in and out of different weather causes the sniffles. --- Yikes, it's been since his inauguration
9v8ql9
CMV: Trump is doing cocaine
First off I'm of no political party, I voted Independant. Facts first! Ok so to start you have never heard trump speak before his 2016 election without sniffing. I believe shortly after becoming president he keeps sniffing. He was told by somebody that cocaine will help him work better, whether or not it has, he tr...
Kilovaga
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[ { "author": "s_wipe", "id": "e9a9dvz", "score": 3, "text": "its flu season, and being in and out of different weather causes the sniffles.\n\n", "timestamp": 1541674517 }, { "author": "Kilovaga", "id": "e9a9j88", "score": 5, "text": "Yikes, it's been since his inauguration", ...
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CMV: Greenhouse Gasses Emitted By Human Activity Are Warming The Earth Anthropogenic global warming is real, is caused by CO2, Methane, and other greenhouse gases emitted by human activity. The mechanism by which greenhouse gases warm the earth is by allowing ultraviolet light to pass through but absorbing light in th...
Why do you want to change a view that is in line with the scientific consensus? Like, what kind of evidence are you looking for here? --- Facts I haven't considered, or other potential causes for the same data. If I hear glass shatter in my house, I know its a burglar. Until I see that my cat knocked a plate off th...
I think you are posing this question too sharply. I will offer a few alternative angles to look at the issue. The first point, however, is that when saying "Greenhouse gases emitted by humans are warming the Earth", you are setting the bar low. All you need is one example showing that such emissions are warming the ea...
16caetv
CMV: Greenhouse Gasses Emitted By Human Activity Are Warming The Earth
Anthropogenic global warming is real, is caused by CO2, Methane, and other greenhouse gases emitted by human activity. The mechanism by which greenhouse gases warm the earth is by allowing ultraviolet light to pass through but absorbing light in the infrared. Its bleak and I envy people who don't believe this. I also h...
cyrusposting
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[ { "author": "Kotoperek", "id": "jzi33ts", "score": 34, "text": "Why do you want to change a view that is in line with the scientific consensus? Like, what kind of evidence are you looking for here?", "timestamp": 1694076446 }, { "author": "cyrusposting", "id": "jzi5lr3", "score":...
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CMV: Every single person caught driving drunk should be immediately charged with attempted murder. So it seems that driving drunk can carry pretty light penalties, and it's also something that most people seem to have done. I think every person who is found to have been driving while intoxicated should be taken to tr...
>**Murder** is the unlawful killing of another [human](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human) without [justification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justification_(jurisprudence)) or valid [excuse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excuse_(legal)), especially the unlawful killing of another human with [malice aforethought](ht...
Our prison system would be completely overrun by the influx in population and our taxes would go through the roof to pay for the prisoners. I think you suspend their license... forever. People will think twice if they catch a felony DUI charge and can never drive legally again. Attempted murder legally requires inten...
n6bxfa
CMV: Every single person caught driving drunk should be immediately charged with attempted murder.
So it seems that driving drunk can carry pretty light penalties, and it's also something that most people seem to have done. I think every person who is found to have been driving while intoxicated should be taken to trial and charged with attempted murder, or some similar kind of charge. Now I - and I'm sure several...
Raspint
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[ { "author": "FinneousPJ", "id": "gx65d7a", "score": 3, "text": ">**Murder** is the unlawful killing of another [human](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human) without [justification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justification_(jurisprudence)) or valid [excuse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excuse_(leg...
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CMV: Every single person caught driving drunk should be immediately charged with attempted murder. So it seems that driving drunk can carry pretty light penalties, and it's also something that most people seem to have done. I think every person who is found to have been driving while intoxicated should be taken to tr...
The drunk driver is not "attempting" to kill people, they are simply risking it. "Attempting" means you tried to do it with intention. Most drunk drivers don't want to kill people, they are just drunk and crash into people. From what I have heard people cannot think straight when they are drunk and lose coordination. ...
>**Murder** is the unlawful killing of another [human](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human) without [justification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justification_(jurisprudence)) or valid [excuse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excuse_(legal)), especially the unlawful killing of another human with [malice aforethought](ht...
n6bxfa
CMV: Every single person caught driving drunk should be immediately charged with attempted murder.
So it seems that driving drunk can carry pretty light penalties, and it's also something that most people seem to have done. I think every person who is found to have been driving while intoxicated should be taken to trial and charged with attempted murder, or some similar kind of charge. Now I - and I'm sure several...
Raspint
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[ { "author": "FinneousPJ", "id": "gx65d7a", "score": 3, "text": ">**Murder** is the unlawful killing of another [human](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human) without [justification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justification_(jurisprudence)) or valid [excuse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excuse_(leg...
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CMV: Book piracy isn't always bad. A bit of background about myself: I'm a college student with basically no disposable income. I can't afford any luxuries - I only eat at the cafeteria, cycle through the same few outfits, etc. The only reason I can even pay tuition is because I was fortunate enough to be granted a sc...
You provide many reasons about your situation and how you benefit, and I get all that. But it's also true that it is stealing. Also, where you say: > I'm a college student with basically no disposable income. and > I have the choice between reading books and enriching my life or not reading at all. Surely you...
[removed] --- How so? I'm interested to hear your reasoning. --- Americans always fall for arguments against piracy that are product of corporate brainwashing. Somehow, Americans started to believe culture and knowledgeable should be hidden behind a paywall. They never question the morality of a book with a $500 pr...
mebbxe
CMV: Book piracy isn't always bad.
A bit of background about myself: I'm a college student with basically no disposable income. I can't afford any luxuries - I only eat at the cafeteria, cycle through the same few outfits, etc. The only reason I can even pay tuition is because I was fortunate enough to be granted a scholarship. I love reading, and I've...
SirDiesalot_62
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[ { "author": "thethoughtexperiment", "id": "gsfd1v3", "score": 197, "text": "You provide many reasons about your situation and how you benefit, and I get all that.\n\nBut it's also true that it is stealing.\n\nAlso, where you say:\n\n> I'm a college student with basically no disposable income. \n\na...
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CMV: Based on Physical Element E of the UN Definition of Genocide, a Genocide Could be Committed that would be less Evil than a Non-Genocidal Mass Murder of an Equal Number of People The United Nations definition of genocide includes five parts, any of which must be done with the "intent to destroy, in whole or in pa...
Are you open to the idea that "genocide" only needlessly complicates interpersonal communications about war crimes? I usually appreciate Descriptivism but it has become a really loaded term. Mass murder. Chemical weapons. Sterilization. Forced reeducation. Concentration Camps. There are very specific terms for this ...
Why would you expect it to be the case that every possible instance of genocide is worse than every possible instance of non-genocide? That doesn't hold for other crimes - we can construct examples of a murder and something else where we judge the something else worse. --- No, nothing is ever worse than murder. --- ...
1d8ejxl
CMV: Based on Physical Element E of the UN Definition of Genocide, a Genocide Could be Committed that would be less Evil than a Non-Genocidal Mass Murder of an Equal Number of People
The United Nations definition of genocide includes five parts, any of which must be done with the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group" in order to qualify as genocide. The fifth part, E, is "forcibly transferring children of the group to another group". If a dictato...
NotRowan1
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Cmv: mass and weight are the same thing Cmv: Mass and weight are the same I understand that weight includes the effect of gravity in its definition but these two measures are in a useful sense the same measurement unless you're going to go to another planet which isn't likely, and even then a correction factor would ...
They are very much not the same thing. Mass is a fundamental measurement of how much matter an object contains. Weight is a measurement of the gravitational force on an object. In space, there is generally mass but no weight. >since gravity is practically constant in any real world scenario. Well, this is straight up...
If you are in a plane that goes into freefall you will experience weightlessness as you float around the inside of the plane (till it stops it's freefall). During that time however you will still have mass, it will still take force to push you around, and if you had more mass it would take more force to accelerate you ...
16ctuhf
Cmv: mass and weight are the same thing
Cmv: Mass and weight are the same I understand that weight includes the effect of gravity in its definition but these two measures are in a useful sense the same measurement unless you're going to go to another planet which isn't likely, and even then a correction factor would be needed for either measurement unless i...
Ok_Affect6705
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CMV: The government should severely penalize trucks to discourage their popularity NOTE: "Truck" in this case refers to all vehicles defined as a light truck by CAFE. This includes most SUV and crossover models. More here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate\_average\_fuel\_economy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
I am a truck owner, it is utilitarian vehicle for me. Why do you feel the need to punish me when I need to take trash or brush to the dump? Why should I have to pay your tax to have a vehicle to haul stuff that I need or help a friend move? >people that need to haul a bunch of people or cargo should look into a statio...
Their popularity is largely for their usage, hauling and carrying stuff countryside. Pretty unfair to penalize. --- As I covered, smaller vehicles often have ample cargo capacity. Even though they're smaller on the outside, they can be just as roomy on the inside because they have different designs for their suspensi...
d9r0v9
CMV: The government should severely penalize trucks to discourage their popularity
NOTE: "Truck" in this case refers to all vehicles defined as a light truck by CAFE. This includes most SUV and crossover models. More here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate\_average\_fuel\_economy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy) ​ For the sake of this post, I'm consideri...
Das_Ronin
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CMV: Pressing tab after typing in a username should ALWAYS bring you to the "password" prompt Hey all, I think this is a pretty simple CMV. I think that when you press tab after you type in your username (or email) should ALWAYS allow you to immediately start typing in your password. I think that any other prompt (ne...
you can press tab more then once, there are many reasons why something else might be between the 2, and you should be staring at the screen rather then at the keyboard any way --- I am aware I can tab more than once, but my assertion is that those that forgot their password or are creating an account are in the min...
[removed] --- [deleted] --- I'll downvote my own comment so it should go below any comment if they sort by new of best, and you are welcome
n64e7t
CMV: Pressing tab after typing in a username should ALWAYS bring you to the "password" prompt
Hey all, I think this is a pretty simple CMV. I think that when you press tab after you type in your username (or email) should ALWAYS allow you to immediately start typing in your password. I think that any other prompt (new account, forgot password) can be put AFTER the password prompt with no impact to usability an...
MyGubbins
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CMV: Trump’s Declaration of a National Emergency to Build a wall is not Unlawful. I’m am not here to be pro-Trump, pro-Pelosi, pro-anything nor am I for or against a border wall, fence, or whatever. I’m not here to debate politics of the move. I just read the [Joint statemen](https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/21519)t...
It's unlawful as the law specifically defines the circumstance under which the $3.6b in military funds Trump was to move can be allocated/spent and the circumstances of this emergency and construction do not meet this, such as protecting military installation. --- This is the best argument yet, that there is now is ...
Declaring an emergency is legal. Declaring a fake emergency for political gain sets a dangerous precedent moving forward. It would mean that the next president could declare a national emergency for something like free healthcare, student debt, you know? --- National emergencies have been declared for many reasons b...
asbq5h
CMV: Trump’s Declaration of a National Emergency to Build a wall is not Unlawful.
I’m am not here to be pro-Trump, pro-Pelosi, pro-anything nor am I for or against a border wall, fence, or whatever. I’m not here to debate politics of the move. I just read the [Joint statemen](https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/21519)t from Pelosi and Schumer in response to the declaration. As well as the Wikipedia ...
millerz1897
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CMV: Trump’s Declaration of a National Emergency to Build a wall is not Unlawful. I’m am not here to be pro-Trump, pro-Pelosi, pro-anything nor am I for or against a border wall, fence, or whatever. I’m not here to debate politics of the move. I just read the [Joint statemen](https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/21519)t...
The President has no inherent power to redistribute money allocated for one purpose for another purpose. The power to allocate that money lies with Congress. The National Emergencies Act gives a number of ways he could redirect money, but none of them apply to this situation. An important point to note here is that th...
Declaring an emergency is legal. Declaring a fake emergency for political gain sets a dangerous precedent moving forward. It would mean that the next president could declare a national emergency for something like free healthcare, student debt, you know? --- National emergencies have been declared for many reasons b...
asbq5h
CMV: Trump’s Declaration of a National Emergency to Build a wall is not Unlawful.
I’m am not here to be pro-Trump, pro-Pelosi, pro-anything nor am I for or against a border wall, fence, or whatever. I’m not here to debate politics of the move. I just read the [Joint statemen](https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/21519)t from Pelosi and Schumer in response to the declaration. As well as the Wikipedia ...
millerz1897
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CMV: Manual labor is more fulfilling than an office job When it’s nice outside I often get to enjoy it, when it’s super shitty out I stay home. My place of work is always changing. The objectives and tasks make sense almost 100% of the time. Instead of busy work there is grunt work which really isn’t so bad, if yo...
Depends on the office job. Mine involves working from home. Yes, I do work on a computer all day, but I have a ton of autonomy. I work for a biotech company on a development team. I basically work on projects all day that combine problem solving and creativity and genetics, which is really fun to me. And it does feel l...
[deleted] --- [deleted] --- You’re getting downvoted because that’s not what the link says. It says that office workers are at 2.2% and other are at 1.6%, OP said that 2.2% *is* 50% not that they’re 50% more likely to have a heart issue. Those numbers were laid out, not an equation, and OP misinterpreted that inf...
mdntqq
CMV: Manual labor is more fulfilling than an office job
When it’s nice outside I often get to enjoy it, when it’s super shitty out I stay home. My place of work is always changing. The objectives and tasks make sense almost 100% of the time. Instead of busy work there is grunt work which really isn’t so bad, if you haven’t dug a hole in well your whole life, give it a s...
brane_wadey
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CMV: I think it's insecure for people to try to control whether or not their partner watches p*rn I'm genuinely opened to have my opinion changed on this. I think the porn industry is exploitative as hell. I think using porn on a daily basis is bad for your mental health and how you view relationships with people. I...
Why is it bad/insecure/etc for a person who believes that a meat eatting diet is harmful to their loved one, to have a desire to keep that person unharmed, healthy, in better shape and all that? I don't find it to be about jealousy, I don't find it to be about insecurity or any of those things. >Like, alot of men wi...
> I think using porn on a daily basis is bad for your mental health and how you view relationships with people. Both of those are of vital importance in a relationship --- Yeah but you can watch porn and not do it on a daily basis --- Do you have any scientific data showing that this is a problem if consumed dail...
185skh3
CMV: I think it's insecure for people to try to control whether or not their partner watches p*rn
I'm genuinely opened to have my opinion changed on this. I think the porn industry is exploitative as hell. I think using porn on a daily basis is bad for your mental health and how you view relationships with people. I definitely see the ethical concerns with porn consumption itself. What bothers me is the insecuri...
Successful_Radish484
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CMV: People 30-and-over who are in committed long term monogamous relationships but "don't want to get married" are full of it and hurting themselves To be clear - I'm not talking about high schoolers who have been in relationships for 3 years. I'm talking about people who are: 1. 30 and over. 2. In a committed long ...
My parents divorced in acrimony. One sister divorced barely after her wedding was over, my other sister is divorcing her husband after making it work for 10 years. My Dad and both my sisters are intelligent and rational people that chose partners who turned out to suck in outrageous ways, some that took years to reveal...
I’ve met some people who have been married and divorced, specifically women, who said that marriage, even non religious marriage, significantly changed the nature of their relationship and made their partner more obsessive, controlling and possessive. --- There are a few problems with that argument. - This argument ...
nv35wv
CMV: People 30-and-over who are in committed long term monogamous relationships but "don't want to get married" are full of it and hurting themselves
To be clear - I'm not talking about high schoolers who have been in relationships for 3 years. I'm talking about people who are: 1. 30 and over. 2. In a committed long term relationship that they don't anticipate ending. 3. Don't want to get married "because they don't believe in marriage" There are quite a few coupl...
darkmalemind
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CMV: The only legitimate purpose to space colonization at the current time is to escape from interference from other humans The only legitimate reason I see for early space colonization like that proposed by Elon Musk is to escape from other humans. It is inherently something antagonistic to certain human factions and...
What about all the scientific advancements that would have to occur to actually colonize a planet? It is so so *so* much more important to have the *knowledge* to colonize a planet vs actually colonizing one. So, in your example there may not be a need to colonize a planet today, but what if in ten years that view ha...
Colonisation of other planets and/or planetary bodies offers significant advantages:   **Access to Resources**: Other planetary bodies may offer access to depleted or non-accessible resources. Many asteroids within our own solar system are likely to contain everything from rare earth elements to vast quantitie...
7439ir
CMV: The only legitimate purpose to space colonization at the current time is to escape from interference from other humans
The only legitimate reason I see for early space colonization like that proposed by Elon Musk is to escape from other humans. It is inherently something antagonistic to certain human factions and not in the interest of humanity or at least most of humanity will object to it. I am unsure whether Elon Musk actually has a...
ouijblvndrwoek
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CMV There is no reason I should not manipulate the cash back on my credit card for free money. My credit card gives me 1.5% cash back. That means whenever I go to a grocery store and swipe my card, I should always pick the option that gives me $60 back in cash and then deposit that $60 back in the bank. This will get ...
The reason: That doesn’t work. Cash withdrawals aren’t available at grocery stores on *credit* (it’s debit only), unless you’re taking a cash advance, in which case there are no rewards points (e.g. no 1.5% cash back) --- So when I pay at walmart and and it says "would you like cash back" i'm not actually getting a...
Won't you get charged the cash advance fee? that's usually offsetting what you are describing. Either that or the cash advance won't give reward points. What is the exact credit card? Edit: If you have the chase freedom unlimited: https://creditcards.chase.com/cash-back-credit-cards/freedom/unlimited >however, the...
f0g3u3
CMV There is no reason I should not manipulate the cash back on my credit card for free money.
My credit card gives me 1.5% cash back. That means whenever I go to a grocery store and swipe my card, I should always pick the option that gives me $60 back in cash and then deposit that $60 back in the bank. This will get me $.90 in cash back every time. If I do this every time I buy something from the store I could ...
TheViewSucks
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CMV:I don’t understand why some very intelligent people watch reality TV show Hi, I’m French so my English risk not to be perfect but I think every body will understand my point . Now the subject: For a long time in my life , I was thinking that only “dumb” or to say it properly “people not interested by the world a...
Nobody is learning significant or profound things all the time, some of life is just used for entertainment. Some people, regardless of intelligence, find reality TV entertaining. Not my thing, but it's not an objectively worse use of time then say playing pacman or watching comedies for people who are entertained by i...
Doesn't nearly everyone have some sort hobby/entertainment of doesn't challenge them mentally, and from the perspective of society is a "waste of time?" Some watch movies, some drink alcohol, some play video games, some go on hikes, some draw etc. --- That seems so strange for me . Could you give a personal exemple ...
n5oxqp
CMV:I don’t understand why some very intelligent people watch reality TV show
Hi, I’m French so my English risk not to be perfect but I think every body will understand my point . Now the subject: For a long time in my life , I was thinking that only “dumb” or to say it properly “people not interested by the world around them” were watching this type of programs . But recently, I learned that...
Competitive-Ad-3437
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CMV: NFL players are not correct in kneeling during the national anthem. 1.) The NFL players are employees of their respective teams. Their freedom of speech is not protected while wearing a uniform. The 1st Amendment only limits the government from impeding on freedoms of speech and expression, but not the private se...
You are mistaken on point 2 - no aspect of the leagues rules or the agreement between the NFL and they players union requires that players stand for the national anthem. Given that the rest of your argument is built on this incorrect assumption, the players who choose to kneel should not be subject to any penalties f...
1. The fact that their freedom of speech is on the line only enhances the protest. It means they are willing to risk their jobs (incredibly well-paying jobs at that) for their beliefs. 2. The thing about guidelines is that they are just a guide. It clearly also leaves room for not punishing players, so this obvious...
7456w1
CMV: NFL players are not correct in kneeling during the national anthem.
1.) The NFL players are employees of their respective teams. Their freedom of speech is not protected while wearing a uniform. The 1st Amendment only limits the government from impeding on freedoms of speech and expression, but not the private sector (NFL employees for example). 2.) As employees of an organization, t...
I_am_a_asshole
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3
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CMV: Castle doctrine is a good idea. Stand your ground is not. With castle doctrine, the point is that you have a right to defend yourself in your home. It essentially says, well, in the home, we don’t know if you’re lying or telling the truth about an intruder being a threat, so we will give you the benefit of the do...
I’m going to attempt to change your view by actually arguing that both are problematic.  There was a case in my hometown where a guy was acquitted because of the castle doctrine. One problem: after observing kids rummaging through unlocked cars at other houses, he waited for them to go to his car, then went outside an...
> Also, this includes the fact that you’re unlikely to be able to retreat safely in your home, so you may be even more justified in using lethal force. Shouldn't we still consider the right to retreat on a case by case basis? If you get home and see a guy just finish walking around the corner of house, shouldn't you ...
1d8308p
CMV: Castle doctrine is a good idea. Stand your ground is not.
With castle doctrine, the point is that you have a right to defend yourself in your home. It essentially says, well, in the home, we don’t know if you’re lying or telling the truth about an intruder being a threat, so we will give you the benefit of the doubt because it’s your property. Also, this includes the fact tha...
BiryaniEater10
3
3
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CMV: You shouldn't marry someone if you wouldn't be willing to cut off your family for them. I constantly come on Reddit and see posts about husbands not standing up to their moms who've hurt their wives, or who just leave their wives at home for holiday parties because they don't get along with their brother, etc. My...
Why specifically your family, and not anyone in your life who doesn't get along with your spouse? --- I mean that's a fair point, it's just mostly family issues I have seen. --- Your view basically boils down to "You should stand up for your partner". Why do you want that changed? --- I wouldn't say I *want* it c...
I wouldn't marry someone who didn't like and get on with my family. I wouldn't cut off my family for anyone. --- But even if someone likes your family, what if something changes? What if they get in an argument over something you didn't anticipate? --- I would choose my family over my partner. Why is that unreasona...
186248i
CMV: You shouldn't marry someone if you wouldn't be willing to cut off your family for them.
I constantly come on Reddit and see posts about husbands not standing up to their moms who've hurt their wives, or who just leave their wives at home for holiday parties because they don't get along with their brother, etc. My hottest take is that if the relationship between your spouse and your other family is that ba...
Aur3lia
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CMV: It's never excusable to commit even small crimes like sexual assault. Edit: I awarded a delta to someone and add that morality and legality are not connected 1:1. ___ Edit: I awarded a delta to someone and no longer believe that kissing, like conventional sexual assault, is a small crime. I edited a point in my...
Sexual assault is not a small crime. A small crime is driving a couple miles over the speed limit, or rolling through a stop sign. A small crime is a waiter eating a roll instead of throwing it away at the end of the day. Assault and sexual assault are not small crimes --- So you're saying a kiss is sexua...
Sexual assault is a horrible example it's not a small crime dude it's a very serious crime. I get what you are asking but horrible example I would change the post if I was you. --- But kissing surely is a small crime? It highlights my point exactly. --- Sexual assault is a broad crime. Someone could pin you down a...
9v1mxd
CMV: It's never excusable to commit even small crimes like sexual assault.
Edit: I awarded a delta to someone and add that morality and legality are not connected 1:1. ___ Edit: I awarded a delta to someone and no longer believe that kissing, like conventional sexual assault, is a small crime. I edited a point in my CMV post. ___ I base this view after having heard so many times, "It was ...
distantembarassedcat
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CMV: Calling a word or phrase racist, sexist, or discriminating is not an opinion I've seen people say that calling something (like a word or phrase) discriminatory is just an opinion. That it depends on how you look at it. Depends on a personal view. But saying something is discriminatory isn't an opinion. It's defin...
It is true that you can't change the definition of a word. For example, the meaning of the word "racism" is "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.". So...when I say "black people eat", or even "black people like fri...
[removed] --- You're just cursing because you're angry about this lol A definition is a definition. If you say something negative against another race, it's racist.
6lhla0
CMV: Calling a word or phrase racist, sexist, or discriminating is not an opinion
I've seen people say that calling something (like a word or phrase) discriminatory is just an opinion. That it depends on how you look at it. Depends on a personal view. But saying something is discriminatory isn't an opinion. It's defining. It's a word category. If someone says something like "Black people do this or ...
Roseswildflowers
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CMV: Japanese music is not/can not be defined as music sung by Japanese people Music genres can't/shouldn't be based off of someone's race. Japanese music can be defined as "music made in japan, or at the very least released and marketed in japan if not made in japan", and "music sung in the japanese language". The ...
I've never heard of anyone talking a Japanese *music* - are you by chance talking about things like J-pop? --- I used the general term "japanese music", to include varieties of japanese music such as jpop, jrock, etc. --- Well, the thing is, J-pop is a distinct genre of music that originated in Japan and is still m...
...Holy shit, a discussion about what counts as "Japanese art" that _isn't_ [focused on the definition of "Anime](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFtfDK39ZhI)". I'm going to link that video in no small part because a lot of the "what is Anime" discourse is actually really cogent to this issue. It's largely a question...
mdjy6i
CMV: Japanese music is not/can not be defined as music sung by Japanese people
Music genres can't/shouldn't be based off of someone's race. Japanese music can be defined as "music made in japan, or at the very least released and marketed in japan if not made in japan", and "music sung in the japanese language". The japanese in japanese music is the japanese language. Just like how english music...
Affectionate_Chair15
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CMV. In a fantasy medieval setting the best weapon for a giant to use is..... Rocks!! Not a Longsword, not a dagger, not an oversized club. The best weapon for a giant use is rocks. Think about it. Using medieval weapons but you way too close to the the enemies you are fighting and even if you can take down a bunch...
> Think about it. Imagine a Giants tossing ten pound boulders at you at like 70 mph. That's insane!. Strongly disagree. The best weapon for a giant to use is not hand thrown rocks. That’s inefficient What you really want is a Giant with a Atlatl (a spear thrower) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear-thrower It artific...
I think you're overestimating the number of 10 lb rocks just lying around. I don't mean to say that they're a *bad* weapon but I don't think they can be relied upon. Even if they are everywhere, said giant still needs to find them (which obviously hurts your DPS). You'd really need to have a crew working to keep the ...
f0cmit
CMV. In a fantasy medieval setting the best weapon for a giant to use is..... Rocks!!
Not a Longsword, not a dagger, not an oversized club. The best weapon for a giant use is rocks. Think about it. Using medieval weapons but you way too close to the the enemies you are fighting and even if you can take down a bunch on normal size enemies in the process you are basically one gigantic target. The enemi...
IceColdBrewz
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[ { "author": "BuckleUpItsThe", "id": "fgsu9ip", "score": 14, "text": "I think you're overestimating the number of 10 lb rocks just lying around. I don't mean to say that they're a *bad* weapon but I don't think they can be relied upon. Even if they are everywhere, said giant still needs to find them...
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CMV: Employees should be able to know the vaccination status of their co-workers My employer recently lifted their mask mandate (while still encouraging mask use). They are also considering it “harassment” to ask other employees about their vaccination status. I believe people have the right to know (edit:to inquire a...
>But vaccine status during a pandemic isn’t just personal information - it potentially impacts my health and that of my family. But what would you do if you find out a person isn't vaccinated? Probably wear a mask and social distance. There is nothing stopping you from doing that now. If you or your family is high ri...
Your coworkers medical history is none of your danm business --- Most of the time, absolutely. It is my business during a pandemic when I need to know how to protect myself. --- If your bussiness allows people to work with you without being vaccinated, u should assume they are not lmao
nuvd3k
CMV: Employees should be able to know the vaccination status of their co-workers
My employer recently lifted their mask mandate (while still encouraging mask use). They are also considering it “harassment” to ask other employees about their vaccination status. I believe people have the right to know (edit:to inquire about) the vaccination status of their coworkers. I asked an HR sub about this a...
9824farseer
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[ { "author": "7000DuckPower", "id": "h0zr34l", "score": 7, "text": ">But vaccine status during a pandemic isn’t just personal information - it potentially impacts my health and that of my family. \n\nBut what would you do if you find out a person isn't vaccinated? Probably wear a mask and social dist...
[ { "author": "lucksh0t", "id": "h0zqnde", "score": 21, "text": "Your coworkers medical history is none of your danm business", "timestamp": 1623123647 }, { "author": "9824farseer", "id": "h0zqr7y", "score": -5, "text": "Most of the time, absolutely. It is my business during a ...
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CMV: the left needs to chill. First off, I don't like either side. They both have problems. But that's not what this post is about. Don't even bring up the right in the comments. I don't want to hear how the right is worse or how they are just as bad. This post is about the left. Like the title the left need to fucki...
>You can't even be friends with someone on the other side, because, for someone to like you, you have to hold the exact same political positions. Friendships are no longer based on interests and hobbies, but rather whether or not you think there should be x law at not. Most of your post is just a typical pro-centrism-...
Anyone online can go overboard regardless of what side they are on. Yes the online left needs to chill, but they don't really represent the reality of what the "left" actually is. --- I'm aware but the internet has a **ton** of power in politics. --- They do, but not as much as you think. If you were to take what y...
ecij9p
CMV: the left needs to chill.
First off, I don't like either side. They both have problems. But that's not what this post is about. Don't even bring up the right in the comments. I don't want to hear how the right is worse or how they are just as bad. This post is about the left. Like the title the left need to fuckin chill. Specifically, I'm refe...
ligitviking
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CMV: If a President is removed from office, the Vice President should not be made President as their successor. *I recognize that given the current political landscape this will look like a very partisan point, and while the impeachment inquiry got me thinking about this line of thought, I don't think that this ...
The entire point of the Vice President existing as a position if for them to replace the President should they suddenly be unable to be in office. There is no logical reason to treat a President removed from office any differently from one who dies, steps down, or becomes medically incapable of doing the job. If you do...
Your first point is what I take issue with. Many times vice president and president may agree on things but it is out of the scope of their power to drastically have any effect. There have been vice president and president's who haven't gotten along. But they almost never openly and outrightly disagree with their pres...
d9n28n
CMV: If a President is removed from office, the Vice President should not be made President as their successor.
*I recognize that given the current political landscape this will look like a very partisan point, and while the impeachment inquiry got me thinking about this line of thought, I don't think that this is a partisan viewpoint. I think it is a logical viewpoint, for the reasons mentioned below.* It doesn't make...
onetwo3four5
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[ { "author": "hmmwill", "id": "f1jatia", "score": 5, "text": "Your first point is what I take issue with. Many times vice president and president may agree on things but it is out of the scope of their power to drastically have any effect.\n\nThere have been vice president and president's who haven't...
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CMV: The fact that women were some of the first programmers isn't very meaningful w.r.t. programming today because programming back then was much more simple and menial. Lately, misleading movies like "Hidden Figures" or essays from newspapers tell us about women being some of the pioneers of programming and computers...
> any of the substantial mathematical or technical thinking that defines programming today Anyone in the field would get a kick out of reading this. > programming back then was much more simple and menial. I get paid to program. A fucking idiot can do it. In fact, I'm a fucking idiot and I do it. Everyone I've worke...
>While it is true that many played a role, the reality is that they largely did not do any of the substantial mathematical or technical thinking that defines programming today. I think you seriously overestimate the mathematical and technical thinking involved in programming today. Most programming involves no substa...
as6fcn
CMV: The fact that women were some of the first programmers isn't very meaningful w.r.t. programming today because programming back then was much more simple and menial.
Lately, misleading movies like "Hidden Figures" or essays from newspapers tell us about women being some of the pioneers of programming and computers. While it is true that many played a role, the reality is that they largely did not do any of the substantial mathematical or technical **thinking** that defines program...
Hot_Shoulder
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[ { "author": "sue_me_please", "id": "egs7rf8", "score": 22, "text": "> any of the substantial mathematical or technical thinking that defines programming today\n\nAnyone in the field would get a kick out of reading this.\n\n> programming back then was much more simple and menial.\n\nI get paid to pro...
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CMV: I don’t think China claiming the South China Sea as part of its territory is a valid reason for the US to seek a military conflict with the Chinese. Interfering with international trade would only wreck its own economy. It seems like the American foreign policy establishment is always looking for reasons to get i...
Because China's expansion into the South China Sea brings them into conflict with key regional allies, where the US have significant military assets based: South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan to name a few. America relies on foreign bases like this in order to project it's military power around the world. Whether you thin...
The US depends on trade with a number of particular countries in the region- Taiwan, the Philippines, Hong Kong, Macau, Vietnam, and Thailand all depend on and share a the South China Sea. The US' chief purpose in the region is to halt Chinese aggression and maintain the current peace, not nation-build, not to go to w...
f00ze4
CMV: I don’t think China claiming the South China Sea as part of its territory is a valid reason for the US to seek a military conflict with the Chinese. Interfering with international trade would only wreck its own economy.
It seems like the American foreign policy establishment is always looking for reasons to get into fights with other countries. China is a growing international power and could plausibly defeat the US in a military conflict in its neighborhood. China is dependent on international trade, and whether it controls the South...
Oxley995
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CMV: I don’t think China claiming the South China Sea as part of its territory is a valid reason for the US to seek a military conflict with the Chinese. Interfering with international trade would only wreck its own economy. It seems like the American foreign policy establishment is always looking for reasons to get i...
The US depends on trade with a number of particular countries in the region- Taiwan, the Philippines, Hong Kong, Macau, Vietnam, and Thailand all depend on and share a the South China Sea. The US' chief purpose in the region is to halt Chinese aggression and maintain the current peace, not nation-build, not to go to w...
Because China's expansion into the South China Sea brings them into conflict with key regional allies, where the US have significant military assets based: South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan to name a few. America relies on foreign bases like this in order to project it's military power around the world. Whether you thin...
f00ze4
CMV: I don’t think China claiming the South China Sea as part of its territory is a valid reason for the US to seek a military conflict with the Chinese. Interfering with international trade would only wreck its own economy.
It seems like the American foreign policy establishment is always looking for reasons to get into fights with other countries. China is a growing international power and could plausibly defeat the US in a military conflict in its neighborhood. China is dependent on international trade, and whether it controls the South...
Oxley995
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CMV: Wishing everyone you meet, "a merry Christmas" is inconsiderate. EDIT: I have changed my view. Based on personal experience, I have been taught that imposing religions, especially Christianity, would be truly offensive to certain people(s), primarily indigenous peoples. This information derives from my university...
People say it to be nice, who cares if you don't celebrate Christmas? Just say thank you and move on with your life. I'm an atheist but when I sneeze and someone says bless you I say thank you. Be a person. --- I know people who do care and dislike it when people impose their religion onto them. Most athiests are ...
Christmas Day is a national public holiday in Canada just like it is in the US. So everyone has to celebrate it whether they like it or not. It would be more appropriate however to say “happy holidays” given the snowflake culture were now in. --- No one has to celebrate Xmas. And I agree with your last statement. Say...
echxng
CMV: Wishing everyone you meet, "a merry Christmas" is inconsiderate.
EDIT: I have changed my view. Based on personal experience, I have been taught that imposing religions, especially Christianity, would be truly offensive to certain people(s), primarily indigenous peoples. This information derives from my university course on indigenous studies. However, it seems that I either misunder...
TealSound
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CMV: Wishing everyone you meet, "a merry Christmas" is inconsiderate. EDIT: I have changed my view. Based on personal experience, I have been taught that imposing religions, especially Christianity, would be truly offensive to certain people(s), primarily indigenous peoples. This information derives from my university...
> The issue is that, not everybody celebrates Christmas; we live in a culturally rich society, and statistically speaking, most people don't celebrate this holiday. So why impose your own religion onto others? Where are you getting this from? Canada is similar to the US in this regard, over 90% of the country celebrat...
Christmas Day is a national public holiday in Canada just like it is in the US. So everyone has to celebrate it whether they like it or not. It would be more appropriate however to say “happy holidays” given the snowflake culture were now in. --- No one has to celebrate Xmas. And I agree with your last statement. Say...
echxng
CMV: Wishing everyone you meet, "a merry Christmas" is inconsiderate.
EDIT: I have changed my view. Based on personal experience, I have been taught that imposing religions, especially Christianity, would be truly offensive to certain people(s), primarily indigenous peoples. This information derives from my university course on indigenous studies. However, it seems that I either misunder...
TealSound
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CMV: Wishing everyone you meet, "a merry Christmas" is inconsiderate. EDIT: I have changed my view. Based on personal experience, I have been taught that imposing religions, especially Christianity, would be truly offensive to certain people(s), primarily indigenous peoples. This information derives from my university...
Christmas is likely important to whomever says this...whether they celebrate in a religious or secular fashion. On a day that is important to them, they wish you well on that day as well. Even if you don't celebrate Christmas...it is a simple well-wishing tied to a particular day/time of the year. Do you have the sam...
>So why impose your own religion onto others? Why is it imposing a religion onto other people and not just taken as a greeting? If i were to go to move to India and someone wished me a Happy Holi, i would think it was pleasant. Neither statements are malicious in any way. If anything, I'm being inclusive by inviting o...
echxng
CMV: Wishing everyone you meet, "a merry Christmas" is inconsiderate.
EDIT: I have changed my view. Based on personal experience, I have been taught that imposing religions, especially Christianity, would be truly offensive to certain people(s), primarily indigenous peoples. This information derives from my university course on indigenous studies. However, it seems that I either misunder...
TealSound
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[ { "author": "Delaware_is_a_lie", "id": "fbbheek", "score": 7, "text": ">So why impose your own religion onto others?\n\nWhy is it imposing a religion onto other people and not just taken as a greeting? If i were to go to move to India and someone wished me a Happy Holi, i would think it was pleasant...
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CMV: Astrology is real (natal chart/synastry astrology) I know there have been similar posts before. And I think I have read a lot of studies that disprove it and tried different methods (picking a random birthdate and time and pretending it’s real and finding it accurate anyway = confirmation bias etc) But I can’t...
I'm guessing that pointing out there is no scientific evidence for astrology being accurate won't change your mind? --- I have read about the Barnum effect, confirmation bias. About famous astrologers like Micheal Gauquelin realising it’s bs (i think it’s gauquelin, I’m not sure) and I have read psych net articles ...
Astrology is 100% real. It just isn't valid. --- Elaborate difference please --- People practice astrology. There are items and beliefs associated with it. But starsigns etc. have no influence on personality and luck or any other facet of life.
f06azh
CMV: Astrology is real (natal chart/synastry astrology)
I know there have been similar posts before. And I think I have read a lot of studies that disprove it and tried different methods (picking a random birthdate and time and pretending it’s real and finding it accurate anyway = confirmation bias etc) But I can’t stop believing it and thinking about it constantly. It’s...
pappermanfan
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CMV: The US congress has been bought out by AIPAC Before you start flaming me, take a look at this - [https://www.aipacpac.org/home](https://www.aipacpac.org/home) In case you don't know what AIPAC's mission is, look at this - [https://aipacorg.app.box.com/s/3bnlheso6zkiicp3znpbrqqdqhku698j](https://aipacorg.app...
>I mean, my god! 365 of the 435 representatives in the house are funded by AIPAC? I get you saw a tiktok or whatever, but no. It's a PAC. It donates to candidates. Like... pretty much all of them. It's kind of the point. It lists a whopping $3 mil in donations to 300+ people. It's not funding anyone. --- If your a...
If we’re putting on our tinfoil hats, I’d suggest the much bigger culprit is Raytheon, Lockheed, and all the other military industrial complex types that are more responsible for the continued supply of weapons to Israel. They massively benefit every time we send weapons over by a) collecting cash, b) reducing inventor...
1aqwncr
CMV: The US congress has been bought out by AIPAC
Before you start flaming me, take a look at this - [https://www.aipacpac.org/home](https://www.aipacpac.org/home) In case you don't know what AIPAC's mission is, look at this - [https://aipacorg.app.box.com/s/3bnlheso6zkiicp3znpbrqqdqhku698j](https://aipacorg.app.box.com/s/3bnlheso6zkiicp3znpbrqqdqhku698j) I ...
take52020
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CMV: humans would be better off reproducing asexually. TW: I'll mention the word that is "grape" without the G. Pornography, sex and sexualized stuff: the main reason I'm writing this CMV. - There's a saying "Are you from a privileged group or are you a porn category?". Being seen as a mere sex object is awful, it...
>Genetic diversity: the only advantage for sexual reproduction that I can think of, as it makes organisms more adaptable to changes in the environment. Humans hate diversity anyway. I have so many worries that this diversity topic deserves a CMV of its own. So... it seems like your view is only really hinged on social...
“There’s a saying ‘are you from a privileged group or are you a porn category?’” No one says this. It sounds like most of your arguments are about why sex is bad? Not only would I disagree with almost every claim you made, but you don’t really put up an argument for why asexual reproduction would be better? It just s...
16bpnqf
CMV: humans would be better off reproducing asexually.
TW: I'll mention the word that is "grape" without the G. Pornography, sex and sexualized stuff: the main reason I'm writing this CMV. - There's a saying "Are you from a privileged group or are you a porn category?". Being seen as a mere sex object is awful, it strips you of your humanity. The reason /actuallesbians...
garaile64
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CMV: Diversity isn’t a Virtue Alright, so me and a friend got into an arguement about this last night so I thought I’d bring my thoughts here so you guys can weigh in (he wasn’t able to change my mind). I don’t really believe diversity is a virtue. Not that it shouldn’t happen or is bad, just that there aren’t any ...
Diversity means that there would be many different approaches and thought styles available to chose from to tackle different issues. --- funny how you brought this up - just got a new book 'The Diversity Delusion' by Heather Mac Donald....After being introduced to a series of campus controversies over the last few ye...
Diversity generally implies variety - of though, of belief, of approach, of outlook, etc. - and variety is generally understood to be better than the opposite. --- Ok Doesn’t this argument rely on the premise that everyone’s belief and approach is equally valuable? And why would you assume someone’s skin color ma...
9uzt6i
CMV: Diversity isn’t a Virtue
Alright, so me and a friend got into an arguement about this last night so I thought I’d bring my thoughts here so you guys can weigh in (he wasn’t able to change my mind). I don’t really believe diversity is a virtue. Not that it shouldn’t happen or is bad, just that there aren’t any benefits. People like to talk ...
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CMV: Assisted suicide should not be legal. I want to first emphasize that this is in regards to people who do not have a terminal or acute physical medical condition or disease, it's about people who have mental illness - people who are otherwise physically healthy. Unfortunately this is going to be longer than I exp...
in many places the criteria for assisted suicide stipulates some kind of seemingly persistent need for it, i.e. in medical interventions the patient is terminal and in mental health ones they dont respond to treatments. instances of assisted suicide are handled on a case by case basis. in the context of what you're des...
Encouraging someone to commit is not the same as a medical professional assisting. Often times it’s after many failed treatments or a lifetime of suffering. IMO it’s cruel to force people to keep living without being able to provide adequate resources. Community, purpose, financial opportunity, mental health treatmen...
1d7ljdz
CMV: Assisted suicide should not be legal.
I want to first emphasize that this is in regards to people who do not have a terminal or acute physical medical condition or disease, it's about people who have mental illness - people who are otherwise physically healthy. Unfortunately this is going to be longer than I expected it would be, but I hope you'll bear wi...
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CMV: Schools should abolish inflated TI-84 graphing calculators, and use free online solutions instead, such as Desmos or Geogebra. The TI-84 (Texas Instrument) is a $100 USD gadget for performing calculations. This was released in 2004, and has undergone zero changes since its release. Chances are, you've seen it in ...
I’m assuming you are in high school? I think the problem doesn’t really stem from the schools, it stems from the universities. As long as universities require calculators during exams, the schools have to train their students to know how to use calculators during an exam. --- You are correct to assume I am in high sc...
You won't be remote learning forever and the graphing calculator is used for several high school math classes (Geometry, Pre-Calculus, Statistics, Calculus). Maybe they don't want to switch methods only to have to switch back once the pandemic has ended. As you point out, teachers aren't about to let students use int...
n5kqez
CMV: Schools should abolish inflated TI-84 graphing calculators, and use free online solutions instead, such as Desmos or Geogebra.
The TI-84 (Texas Instrument) is a $100 USD gadget for performing calculations. This was released in 2004, and has undergone zero changes since its release. Chances are, you've seen it in your life. Texas Instruments practically controls the mathematics departments of schools. Most teachers rely on these calculators for...
Heavenira
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CMV: Schools should abolish inflated TI-84 graphing calculators, and use free online solutions instead, such as Desmos or Geogebra. The TI-84 (Texas Instrument) is a $100 USD gadget for performing calculations. This was released in 2004, and has undergone zero changes since its release. Chances are, you've seen it in ...
You won't be remote learning forever and the graphing calculator is used for several high school math classes (Geometry, Pre-Calculus, Statistics, Calculus). Maybe they don't want to switch methods only to have to switch back once the pandemic has ended. As you point out, teachers aren't about to let students use int...
I’m assuming you are in high school? I think the problem doesn’t really stem from the schools, it stems from the universities. As long as universities require calculators during exams, the schools have to train their students to know how to use calculators during an exam. --- I didn't need anything besides a scientif...
n5kqez
CMV: Schools should abolish inflated TI-84 graphing calculators, and use free online solutions instead, such as Desmos or Geogebra.
The TI-84 (Texas Instrument) is a $100 USD gadget for performing calculations. This was released in 2004, and has undergone zero changes since its release. Chances are, you've seen it in your life. Texas Instruments practically controls the mathematics departments of schools. Most teachers rely on these calculators for...
Heavenira
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CMV: Schools should abolish inflated TI-84 graphing calculators, and use free online solutions instead, such as Desmos or Geogebra. The TI-84 (Texas Instrument) is a $100 USD gadget for performing calculations. This was released in 2004, and has undergone zero changes since its release. Chances are, you've seen it in ...
I’m assuming you are in high school? I think the problem doesn’t really stem from the schools, it stems from the universities. As long as universities require calculators during exams, the schools have to train their students to know how to use calculators during an exam. --- You are correct to assume I am in high sc...
You won't be remote learning forever and the graphing calculator is used for several high school math classes (Geometry, Pre-Calculus, Statistics, Calculus). Maybe they don't want to switch methods only to have to switch back once the pandemic has ended. As you point out, teachers aren't about to let students use int...
n5kqez
CMV: Schools should abolish inflated TI-84 graphing calculators, and use free online solutions instead, such as Desmos or Geogebra.
The TI-84 (Texas Instrument) is a $100 USD gadget for performing calculations. This was released in 2004, and has undergone zero changes since its release. Chances are, you've seen it in your life. Texas Instruments practically controls the mathematics departments of schools. Most teachers rely on these calculators for...
Heavenira
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CMV: The US government should build out a large network of electric car infrastructure, and make it free to use. I think reducing emissions in transportation is an extremely important policy goal, both due to global warming and local air pollution reasons. Electric vehicles are the most obvious solution to this, but ...
Nothing is free. Plus you have to think about the impact building all of that would have. Electric construction equipment isn’t as popular as electric cars. You can look up the study how much pollution California is putting out to build their new train. It would take operating the train decades just to cancel out all...
There's over 300 million people in the USA. So to achieve one station for every hundred people, you need 3 million stations. You also have to consider if the grid could handle all those electric vehicles. --- One station per 100 people seems wildly overbuilt. There are well under 200,000 gas stations in the US. h...
d9b8dx
CMV: The US government should build out a large network of electric car infrastructure, and make it free to use.
I think reducing emissions in transportation is an extremely important policy goal, both due to global warming and local air pollution reasons. Electric vehicles are the most obvious solution to this, but their widespread adoption is curtailed by cost and network effects. Cost is a difficult problem for the governmen...
huadpe
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cmv: "Bitch" is not a slur, not it's a word to be avoided. Slurs are a what they call "pejorative term". A term that means X but with a negative connotation. The N-word and a "a black guy" mean the same thing, but the first word also implies it's bad to be black. When you say the N-word, you kinda imply that's what ...
Men can be and do get called whores. Wanker is gender-neutral - not sure where you’ve got the idea it can only refer to men? Bitch has a history of being used pejoratively against women. Therefore it’s a slur. --- A man can also be called a bitch. And wanker is not gender-neutral. It's a ward that refers to male ma...
Pejorative means expressing contempt and disapproval. You narrowed the definition in a specific way to have an argument to begin with. The insults you have listed I have seen used on both men and women. --- > The insults you have listed I have seen used on both men and women. I've seen men being called bitches and ...
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cmv: "Bitch" is not a slur, not it's a word to be avoided.
Slurs are a what they call "pejorative term". A term that means X but with a negative connotation. The N-word and a "a black guy" mean the same thing, but the first word also implies it's bad to be black. When you say the N-word, you kinda imply that's what you call ALL black people. Of course, there are jokes that "...
DayOrNightTrader
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CMV: you can’t say that criticizing Israel is anti semitic and then turn around and say that ceasefire calls and pro Palestine protests are antisemitic. People say that it’s ok to criticize Israel and the IDF, but then go around and say that ceasefire calls and pro Palestine protests are antisemitic. If criticism of I...
A ceasefire call is a call to let Hamas shoot rockets at Israel, invade Israel murder/rape/pillage take hostages and have Israel do nothing about it. The devil is in the details. Theoretically a ceasefire where Hamas gives back all the hostages and honors the ceasefire and stops all the rocket attacks and never attac...
For your first point, Criticizing Israel’s government is not anti-Semitic, but the people who criticize Israel usually justify the Oct 7 massacre because according to them every Israeli is a settler. That isn’t only anti-Semitic, but ignorant and ironically is calling for an ethnic cleansing itself. Now calling for a ...
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CMV: you can’t say that criticizing Israel is anti semitic and then turn around and say that ceasefire calls and pro Palestine protests are antisemitic.
People say that it’s ok to criticize Israel and the IDF, but then go around and say that ceasefire calls and pro Palestine protests are antisemitic. If criticism of Israel is ok, both these things are criticisms of Israel and thus ok. A good counterargument could be that if someone is holding Israel to different stan...
BiryaniEater10
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CMV: Believing that abortion is moral, excepting situations in which the mothers life is severely threatened, is an untenable position. I don't believe that abortion is moral, and i think that believing that abortion is moral is an untenable position. Common arguments for abortion: 1. Women should be able to contro...
One of your premises is that a fetus is a life, and while I do not personally disagree with that, it's been a highly debated topic. The main cause for most of the disagreement lies within that premise. a question to ask yourself with the premise in mind: *If a fetus is not a life, would it be immoral to abort it?* H...
Say I'm a landlord. My tenant is broke. They aren't paying rent and can't afford another place. It is the middle of winter. Is eviction immoral? Or say I'm the only match for a liver. Without it, the person would die. Should I be forced to donate part of my liver? If necessary, should I be taken into custody, s...
f03tt8
CMV: Believing that abortion is moral, excepting situations in which the mothers life is severely threatened, is an untenable position.
I don't believe that abortion is moral, and i think that believing that abortion is moral is an untenable position. Common arguments for abortion: 1. Women should be able to control their own bodies 2. Many women are not financially ready to have children. 3. If women are raped, then they didn't want the baby. 4. Fe...
PlatypusDisciple
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CMV: Pencils are Superior to Pens To begin I feel that we should compare high quality pencils with hiqh quality pens so as to appropriately evaluate the best of what each form of stationery can achieve. I've personally found that modern graphite technology can allow pencils to reach the same intensity of colour/black...
* Pens are permanent. They can't be erased. This is an ideal quality for signing legal documents. * Pens can be refilled with more ink. They are far more durable than a pencil. * Pencils become smaller as you use them. Pens remain the same size throughout use. * Pencils require an extra tool called a sharpener. Pens...
Pens can write on a wider variety of surfaces. A felt-tip can write on plastic so I can write on the box what meal I've just put in the freezer (not that I ever do). Can your pencil do that? No you'l have to use a plain white sticker (which I should too but shush) --- I feel that at the point wherein we allow felt-ti...
9uxssg
CMV: Pencils are Superior to Pens
To begin I feel that we should compare high quality pencils with hiqh quality pens so as to appropriately evaluate the best of what each form of stationery can achieve. I've personally found that modern graphite technology can allow pencils to reach the same intensity of colour/black as most pens whilst still allowing...
andurilsoulreap
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CMV: social conservatives are typically on the wrong side of history. In my lifetime, the things that social conservatives fight for are typically issues that 1. Run counter to American values like freedom and liberty for ALL. 2. In retrospect seem like outdated ideas. I can understand the argument that without soci...
> But that still means that their "purpose" is to work in the opposite direction of progress towards equality and liberty for all. You're describing social conservatives as only slowing down positive change to a pace that the general public can tolerate. But social conservatives also try to keep negative change from ...
Okay, let me just throw one example out and you can let me know if you need more. I'm actually mostly liberal, but these days that's considered conservative. The students at Evergreen are social progressives: - They have literally stated that they're against free speech. I mean they actually said this directly, and i...
6leh4s
CMV: social conservatives are typically on the wrong side of history.
In my lifetime, the things that social conservatives fight for are typically issues that 1. Run counter to American values like freedom and liberty for ALL. 2. In retrospect seem like outdated ideas. I can understand the argument that without social conservatives in the mix, social progressives would run wild and mak...
beesdaddy
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[ { "author": "BroccoliManChild", "id": "djtm8za", "score": 17, "text": "> But that still means that their \"purpose\" is to work in the opposite direction of progress towards equality and liberty for all.\n\nYou're describing social conservatives as only slowing down positive change to a pace that th...
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CMV: social conservatives are typically on the wrong side of history. In my lifetime, the things that social conservatives fight for are typically issues that 1. Run counter to American values like freedom and liberty for ALL. 2. In retrospect seem like outdated ideas. I can understand the argument that without soci...
Eugenics and prohibition were largely progressive initiatives in the early 20th century. So, we can at least conclude that social conservatism isn't always the source of bad policies. --- Eugenics could be an interesting example. Prohibition I think is a weaker case. Can you make the argument (or point to one) that ...
Okay, let me just throw one example out and you can let me know if you need more. I'm actually mostly liberal, but these days that's considered conservative. The students at Evergreen are social progressives: - They have literally stated that they're against free speech. I mean they actually said this directly, and i...
6leh4s
CMV: social conservatives are typically on the wrong side of history.
In my lifetime, the things that social conservatives fight for are typically issues that 1. Run counter to American values like freedom and liberty for ALL. 2. In retrospect seem like outdated ideas. I can understand the argument that without social conservatives in the mix, social progressives would run wild and mak...
beesdaddy
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CMV: social conservatives are typically on the wrong side of history. In my lifetime, the things that social conservatives fight for are typically issues that 1. Run counter to American values like freedom and liberty for ALL. 2. In retrospect seem like outdated ideas. I can understand the argument that without soci...
Eugenics and prohibition were largely progressive initiatives in the early 20th century. So, we can at least conclude that social conservatism isn't always the source of bad policies. --- Eugenics could be an interesting example. Prohibition I think is a weaker case. Can you make the argument (or point to one) that ...
I feel like we're going to have an argument about definitions. Your definition for social conservative seems to be someone who "opposes social progress" so it's sort of wrapped up in the premise that social conservatives are never on the "right side of history", because the group that you're considering as social conse...
6leh4s
CMV: social conservatives are typically on the wrong side of history.
In my lifetime, the things that social conservatives fight for are typically issues that 1. Run counter to American values like freedom and liberty for ALL. 2. In retrospect seem like outdated ideas. I can understand the argument that without social conservatives in the mix, social progressives would run wild and mak...
beesdaddy
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CMV: Reddit is infiltrated with paid shills to advocate against any type of sensible gun law As the title says, Reddit is infiltrated by paid shills blurring and arguing against any policy related to gun control. My evidence? On any issue, Reddit is a bastion of reactionary liberal stupidity, but on this one single ...
While the exact number of gun owners in the US is unknown, some estimates put the number as high as 120 million.  Simply put, there are a lot of gun owners in the US.  And as Reddit is a social media website that caters to all sorts of interests, it stands to reason that there'd be quite a few on Reddit as well. With...
There is no money behind gun rights. Billionaires fear anyone having the means to assassinate them. Meanwhile gun control is single handedly backed by one mega billionaire, Mike Bloomberg, who has put north of 10 billion dollars towards it. --- Nonsense. You’re saying gun manufacturers don’t lobby? They’re broke? -...
1ar814l
CMV: Reddit is infiltrated with paid shills to advocate against any type of sensible gun law
As the title says, Reddit is infiltrated by paid shills blurring and arguing against any policy related to gun control. My evidence? On any issue, Reddit is a bastion of reactionary liberal stupidity, but on this one single issue, no matter what subreddit you are in, somehow there are massive numbers of 2nd Amendment...
Jarkside
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CMV: Tobacco harm reduction is a dogwhistle On nicotine/tobacco control circles, you may have heard the term [tobacco harm reduction (THR)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_harm_reduction) - the idea of is to migrate cigarette smokers to less harmful (but *not risk-free*) nicotine products. The idea alone alread...
Typically "dog whistle" means a message that means one thing to a small audience and something anodyne to a larger audience. In what way is "tobacco harm whistle" a coded message? "Also, when you switch from cigarettes to an alt-nicotine product such as snus, nicotine pouches, or vapes, you are still trading an addict...
Harm reduction is a real thing, independent of who's promoting it or who's benefiting financially. Are you suggesting that people shouldn't switch to a safer product, just because 'Big Tobacco' may be selling it? --- Smokers are supposed to quit smoking/nicotine use entirely and absolutely. --- In an ideal world, ...
1d7fotz
CMV: Tobacco harm reduction is a dogwhistle
On nicotine/tobacco control circles, you may have heard the term [tobacco harm reduction (THR)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_harm_reduction) - the idea of is to migrate cigarette smokers to less harmful (but *not risk-free*) nicotine products. The idea alone already makes it sound of a pro-(big) tobacco dogwh...
FMecha
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CMV: Polyamory is just glorified FOMO Edit: It’s come to my attention that there’s a difference between polyamory and open relationships. Due to my lack of knowledge in the topic, I wrote this post mostly thinking about open relationships, so maybe take that into consideration when reading this. But it also works for ...
Just because there are multiple partners doesn’t mean “they can’t compromise”, it’s a giant compromise to have multiple partners. It’s also not about feeling “the need” to be sexually invoked with others, as you put it, but maybe not feeling the need to only be involved with one person. It’s not from assuming the worst...
Each relationship is different and being polyamorous doesn't solve a broken relationship. But for me for example, I am extremely academic and my partner is not. The last thing he wants to do is hear me go on and on about psychology. So I'd love to have someone I can go to dinner with and talk philosophy and academic d...
mdafnf
CMV: Polyamory is just glorified FOMO
Edit: It’s come to my attention that there’s a difference between polyamory and open relationships. Due to my lack of knowledge in the topic, I wrote this post mostly thinking about open relationships, so maybe take that into consideration when reading this. But it also works for other non-monogamous relationships Ed...
bruhnie
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CMV: Trump being found “not guilty” of A high crime is not entirely unreasonable. To preface this, I am no fan of trump and lean on the liberal side, but wanted to look into the impeachment Process as impartially as I possibly could. What I focused on was the fact that Trump attempted to get Ukraine to look into Joe B...
If Trump’s motive for calling for an investigation into the Biden’s was a belief that they were corrupt, he should have taken that to his Department of Justice to have them investigate the matter. If the DOJ opted to call in Ukraine for assistance due to Burisma being in their country and that they might have informat...
[deleted] --- This is hardly comparable to OJ. --- Of course its not, that poster is just acting out like me niece. They'll tire out soon.
f03m86
CMV: Trump being found “not guilty” of A high crime is not entirely unreasonable.
To preface this, I am no fan of trump and lean on the liberal side, but wanted to look into the impeachment Process as impartially as I possibly could. What I focused on was the fact that Trump attempted to get Ukraine to look into Joe Biden, which the democrats argue was motivated by the 2020 political election. I hav...
JoeyPhoebe
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CMV: I should pay my medical debt. I refuse to pay my medical debt not because I can't pay it but just out of principle. I believe debt is something you actively choose to get into, like student loans, car loans, ect. But charging me 1.4k for an ambulance ride is ridiculous. I don't want to encourage this for profit m...
>Medical debt goes away after 7 years It doesn't just disappear... You still are expected to pay it. It just falls off your credit report after 7ish years. --- So why even pay for it? --- You can't just "not pay". If you want to get rid of the debt, you need to file for bankruptcy. Your bankruptcy attorney will ...
>I don't want to encourage this for profit medical system and I'd be damn if my credit score suffers. What about the other people who do have to pay 1.4k for an ambulance ride to make up for the people like you who choose not to pay? It's not just the personal cost to your own credit. --- Just tell them to vote for...
d9g119
CMV: I should pay my medical debt.
I refuse to pay my medical debt not because I can't pay it but just out of principle. I believe debt is something you actively choose to get into, like student loans, car loans, ect. But charging me 1.4k for an ambulance ride is ridiculous. I don't want to encourage this for profit medical system and I'd be damn if my ...
StalkingAnbu
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[ { "author": "SANcapITY", "id": "f1h0242", "score": 2, "text": ">I don't want to encourage this for profit medical system and I'd be damn if my credit score suffers. \n\nWhat about the other people who do have to pay 1.4k for an ambulance ride to make up for the people like you who choose not to pay?...
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CMV: for the crime of murder , the death penalty should be guaranteed. Got into a mildly heated discussion about this topic earlier and apparently my view is absurd so id like to see reasoning behind the opposite to possibly change my perspective. Recently there was a shooting in Kansas city at the super bowl parade....
And what happens when there's a mistake made and the executed person is exonerated? --- There were like 300 exonerations in 2022, less than half were violent crimes and less than that were murders. A tiny fraction of incidents to me , is not enough . --- It's enough to the falsely accused
Why do you think the vast majority of developed end the practice? If it's such a good idea, why did so many from the past remove it? Alternatively, if it was a good idea, wouldn't it be more common like public school systems or universal suffrage? --- Humans have this thing called empathy which clouds rationality i...
1ar3ix3
CMV: for the crime of murder , the death penalty should be guaranteed.
Got into a mildly heated discussion about this topic earlier and apparently my view is absurd so id like to see reasoning behind the opposite to possibly change my perspective. Recently there was a shooting in Kansas city at the super bowl parade. 9 teens and kids were shot and 1 person so far has died. I think this i...
Flakkzyy_
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CMV: It is delusional to use positive affirmations for your mental health This is something a lot of counselors and therapists I know have been trying to drill into me, the whole concept that you are what you think you are. Now, to some extent, I understand what they are trying to say, that if I only think negatively ...
Contrary to your title, it appears that your view is actually: It can *sometimes* be delusional to use positive affirmations for your mental health. Does that seem accurate to you? If so, than I don't think anyone reasonable would disagree with you. The issue you are probably dealing with here: >However, my big...
It's interesting that you're keyed in on the word "delusional" and "deluded" here. Why would positive affirmations be any more delusion than the negative affirmations your poor mental health is giving you. > it’s an inspiring message to hear that if I think I am XYZ, that I will become XYZ, but logically that doesn’t...
1d7ahpb
CMV: It is delusional to use positive affirmations for your mental health
This is something a lot of counselors and therapists I know have been trying to drill into me, the whole concept that you are what you think you are. Now, to some extent, I understand what they are trying to say, that if I only think negatively about myself, then I am going to just be whatever terrible perception of my...
SocialLifeIssues
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[ { "author": "mrspuff202", "id": "l6y1wt6", "score": 1, "text": "It's interesting that you're keyed in on the word \"delusional\" and \"deluded\" here.\n\nWhy would positive affirmations be any more delusion than the negative affirmations your poor mental health is giving you.\n\n> it’s an inspiring ...
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CMV: Military age should be 21, not 18 Raise the military enlistment age to 21, too. Whether it's because of personal or parental failure, 18 year old "adults" who don't know how to take care of themselves don't belong in a career field where they need to know how to take care of each-other in turn. Someone who doesn...
For better or for worse, a lot of kids going into the military at 18 are there because there's no better opportunities for them. They don't come from money, they don't have a job ready for them out of high school, etc... You take that away, what do they have? If there was a combined peace-corps-like civilian service t...
I joined around 26, i was an idiot as i was still kind of a kid with nothing really happening for me, i was discharged from basic due to medical injury but the time there was enough to make me into an adult I think military should be required for all citizens or at least basic training, i dont agree with the wars and ...
1ar2cg8
CMV: Military age should be 21, not 18
Raise the military enlistment age to 21, too. Whether it's because of personal or parental failure, 18 year old "adults" who don't know how to take care of themselves don't belong in a career field where they need to know how to take care of each-other in turn. Someone who doesn't know how or has no real experience go...
shoshana4sure
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[ { "author": "xboxhaxorz", "id": "kqgu7aq", "score": 1, "text": "I joined around 26, i was an idiot as i was still kind of a kid with nothing really happening for me, i was discharged from basic due to medical injury but the time there was enough to make me into an adult\n\nI think military should be...
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CMV: If drafted veterans should be thanked for their service, then people voluntarily in the military should thank taxpayers for their pay check. I'm speaking from a US perspective but I think this should be roughly the same for other countries. If somebody is drafted into the military and they are thanked for their ...
So just a curious question that doesn’t really have anything to do with the subject. Do you have to pay taxes no matter how little you make? I don’t live in the US and here we have that if you make up to a certain amount a year then you can apply to not having to pay any taxes. I think it is up to around 1800 dollars a...
Wait...since when is it mandatory to thank veterans? I mean I know it's popular to do and is a mark of respect. I'm speaking as an outsider here, but I am from a military family. Afaic you're not obligated to thank them for their service and most personnel don't go around demanding too be thanked. --- It's not. Bu...
f019iu
CMV: If drafted veterans should be thanked for their service, then people voluntarily in the military should thank taxpayers for their pay check.
I'm speaking from a US perspective but I think this should be roughly the same for other countries. If somebody is drafted into the military and they are thanked for their service by a civilian, the civilian is thanking the draftee for doing something that benefits them (and society as a whole), even though the person...
I-live-in-Austin
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CMV: The woman should not always have the ability to decide on abortion I think that abortion should be viewed through a capitalist framework. That is, the person who owns the fetus gets to decide the fate of the fetus. To use an analogy, if I purchase all of the ingredients for a cake and then bake a cake, the cake ...
> To use an analogy, if I purchase all of the ingredients for a cake and then bake a cake, the cake belongs to me, I can do whatever I want with the cake. There is a nuance to this however, if I rent my labor to someone else, my labor becomes an ingredient in the production of the cake, therefore the cake belongs to th...
If I buy all the ingredients to the cake, am I allowed to barge into your house to use your oven to make it? --- The oven is an ingredient. So you have not bought all of the ingredients. If you rent my oven and the contract dictates that that you can barge in, then the answer to your question is yes. --- What if th...
9uuleq
CMV: The woman should not always have the ability to decide on abortion
I think that abortion should be viewed through a capitalist framework. That is, the person who owns the fetus gets to decide the fate of the fetus. To use an analogy, if I purchase all of the ingredients for a cake and then bake a cake, the cake belongs to me, I can do whatever I want with the cake. There is a nuance ...
Gyeff
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[ { "author": "ralph-j", "id": "e975wtp", "score": 11, "text": "> To use an analogy, if I purchase all of the ingredients for a cake and then bake a cake, the cake belongs to me, I can do whatever I want with the cake. There is a nuance to this however, if I rent my labor to someone else, my labor bec...
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CMV: There are no convincing arguments for right wing political views like conservatism. I'm very left wing politically, and have never once heard something approaching a reasonable argument from the right. I tried to research what conservatives believe by using Google and browsing right wing subreddits and I have yet...
Neither economic extreme works. The market efficiently allocates resources but throws many humans in the mincer. Centrally planned economies sound good until you try to implement one; deeply inefficient and ineffective and leave people with shortages and poverty. The best places we as a species have ever created for ...
If you are serious about having this view challenged (specifically on the value of free markets and de-regulated capitalism vs government control), you should consider reading Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. I am also on the political left, and although I don't agree with many of the ideas in the book, it certainly present...
nump8e
CMV: There are no convincing arguments for right wing political views like conservatism.
I'm very left wing politically, and have never once heard something approaching a reasonable argument from the right. I tried to research what conservatives believe by using Google and browsing right wing subreddits and I have yet to encounter a reasonable argument from the right. I'm not even gonna start on progress...
FusionVsGravity
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CMV: The “Is This Still Available?” button on Marketplace needs to go. The “Hi Username, Is this still available?” Button on FaceBook Marketplace is a complete and utter waste of time and needs to be removed. I put in my posts not to use that button and that I won’t respond and they STILL hit that button (Yes, I kn...
It's literally the first question that needs answering. If the answer is "no," then anything else is a waste of time. --- The first line in my post is “If you can read this it is available.” Many people do that to avoid the button pushers who aren’t serious. --- It's unfortunate but you're being let down by your fe...
It's a quick and easy way to start off whatever conversation leads to a sale. And since there's a massive problem of sellers leaving up listings for shit they already sold, it's a good first question to lead with. It's not the platform's fault you just block people looking to buy your crap --- I block people who didn...
1aquuuf
CMV: The “Is This Still Available?” button on Marketplace needs to go.
The “Hi Username, Is this still available?” Button on FaceBook Marketplace is a complete and utter waste of time and needs to be removed. I put in my posts not to use that button and that I won’t respond and they STILL hit that button (Yes, I know some people are just being jokers, I just simply block anyone who use...
BusyLight32
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CMV: An individual should be given the option and ability to opt out of certain security measures in today's digital world and be forbidden to hold the entity responsible if something does go wrong or if they mess anything up A person should be given the option by a company to opt out of additional, time-consuming, an...
What would be the benefit to the company to have these measures? Are people really not using sites because of having to enter in a password or two factor authentication? And when the people with less security inevitably have a data breach, who will they blame? Probably the company that let them have less security. I'...
[deleted] --- Here's my issue with this - and maybe I'm being intentionally obtuse about this simply b/c of my bias and my feelings about this situation but so far every response here has very little to do w/ the technology and a hell of a lot to do w/ PR / perception / heartlessness, etc. And yeah I get that's the ...
md4zv1
CMV: An individual should be given the option and ability to opt out of certain security measures in today's digital world and be forbidden to hold the entity responsible if something does go wrong or if they mess anything up
A person should be given the option by a company to opt out of additional, time-consuming, and in some cases worthless, security measures when attempting to access a website, an app, a device, etc. Over the years we've all noticed that security measures are getting more and more controlling. Certain companies demand m...
imarrangingmatches
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[ { "author": "[deleted]", "id": "gs7clgw", "score": 8, "text": "[deleted]", "timestamp": 1616698395 }, { "author": "imarrangingmatches", "id": "gs7eqsr", "score": 1, "text": "Here's my issue with this - and maybe I'm being intentionally obtuse about this simply b/c of my bias ...
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CMV: it's a good thing that birth rates are declining Declining birth rates have been in the news lately, and most of the reporting I've read has centered around the resulting demographic shift causing economic difficulties. While I'm sure there will be economic difficulties to overcome, I think it's necessary to do s...
Depends where you look. on a macro/resource level you have a point. But if you look at countries like Japan their issue is they have such an old population, and there isn't enough young people to do all the necessary jobs to look after the elderly. A lot of western countries are facing similar impending crisis. Mainl...
So, I generally agree with you that a declining birthrate is a good thing, and that most of the issues brought up about it generally fall into two buckets: Economic: [How do we care for all these old people?](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4545628/) Demographic: [Won't someone think of the white people...
n5fj89
CMV: it's a good thing that birth rates are declining
Declining birth rates have been in the news lately, and most of the reporting I've read has centered around the resulting demographic shift causing economic difficulties. While I'm sure there will be economic difficulties to overcome, I think it's necessary to do so, and now is a better time than later. An economy tha...
Zak
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CMV: It’s the government’s responsibility to restrict hate speech To be clear, hate speech is speech that “attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity.” I believe we would all agree that it’s the ...
I don't trust the government enough to let it define and delimit hate speech right now, without the need for a slippery slope. Is calling what Scientologists believe ridiculous hate speech? Is saying that Slovenians have lower IQ hate speech? What if it's true? Is criticizing a black person for doing something [niggar...
Do you think that having their rallies and speech banned will make Nazis give up, or do you think it will incite them even further? I honestly am not sure of the answer to that question. Part of me thinks that the most powerful way to combat harmful ideas is with the truth, not with violence (which is what the speech l...
9usk5m
CMV: It’s the government’s responsibility to restrict hate speech
To be clear, hate speech is speech that “attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity.” I believe we would all agree that it’s the government’s duty to build the most ideal society. Part of that dut...
theteramon
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CMV: Chicago should not get rid of ShotSpotter Come September of this year, ShotSpotter will be removed from Chicago under the mayors direction. ShotSpotter is able to register gun shots and direct emergency services to the area where the shots took place. It will not rely on people (who may not call in shot fired at...
It's not the cost of the contract that's the issue. I have my issues with chicago as a city in general, but from what I read 86-89% of reports didn't actually involve a gun/gun related crime for the year 2021. That's a massive waste of manpower and resources investigating false positives. To your point about a city of ...
It seems that a premise of your view is that police being alerted so they can come to an area is a good thing. I could not disagree more. *Especially* in cases where police believe someone else might have a gun. Bringing skittish, trigger-happy, unaccountable cops into a situation where "there were (allegedly) gunsh...
1aqudzm
CMV: Chicago should not get rid of ShotSpotter
Come September of this year, ShotSpotter will be removed from Chicago under the mayors direction. ShotSpotter is able to register gun shots and direct emergency services to the area where the shots took place. It will not rely on people (who may not call in shot fired at all) for police to be alerted that shots were f...
Eli-Had-A-Book-
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CMV: there’s an increase in suicide on a global scale because of a loss of traditional values and an increase of materialism. Hello, Reddit. This is something I’m very passionate about, as a teenager on the brink of adulthood I’ve seen suicide in my school, community, and society. It’s a problem, and I don’t think it...
What happened in the Asian communities you mentioned is merely an acceptance of suicide as an option, period. You must relieve yourself of the "god" parable to understand these people. They believe committing suicide is just an option when life is hard or when your family is displeasing you. I'm not passing judgement o...
The country which has seen one of the highest increases in suicide rates recently is Guyana and a majority of the reasoning behind that is the poverty rate of the nation. People aren’t killing themselves because they wish they could afford an iPhone and have a submissive wife. They’re doing it because they can’t affo...
as61te
CMV: there’s an increase in suicide on a global scale because of a loss of traditional values and an increase of materialism.
Hello, Reddit. This is something I’m very passionate about, as a teenager on the brink of adulthood I’ve seen suicide in my school, community, and society. It’s a problem, and I don’t think it can be stopped by singing that one song from the Lion King. I believe it’s attached to a loss of traditional values and an in...
Madden289
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CMV: In the grand scheme of things, nothing humanity ever does matters. I came across this website that pretty much tried to scale the entire solar system by equaling the size of the moon to a pixel. This was pretty astonishing to just even think about, considering they didn't even include other systems, and it was st...
If you look at our advancement on the universal timeline with respect to the entirety of universal age, we are spreading like wildfire. Our expansion is beyond rapid. Our advancement expeditious beyond any reckoning. --- And even if you look at the span of human history... * 1 Million years ago, we started using fir...
[deleted] --- Why does a human matter more?
md32kl
CMV: In the grand scheme of things, nothing humanity ever does matters.
I came across this website that pretty much tried to scale the entire solar system by equaling the size of the moon to a pixel. This was pretty astonishing to just even think about, considering they didn't even include other systems, and it was still huge. I am sure you may have come across something similar, perhaps t...
wildchick98
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CMV: Saying something is unconstitutional doesn't affect your allyship of the vulnerable community affected by the issue I feel like people who argue that gay marriage is not constitutional are often regarded as not being LGBT allies. But these are two unrelated things. Nothing about being pro-LGBT means you would thi...
I agree with the gist of your sentiment, but I'd point out that the US constitution doesn't mention marriage. That topic is outside its purview. And by default, everything not restricted is therefore permitted. Marriage of whatever variety does not need constitutional backing. --- Don't care what you think about what...
Gay marriage *is* constitutional. The U.S. Supreme Court determined this in 2015. --- That is irrelevant to the question of they interpreted correctly. --- Is the basis of constitutional law not that the Supreme Court's rulings stand until overturned?
184twkn
CMV: Saying something is unconstitutional doesn't affect your allyship of the vulnerable community affected by the issue
I feel like people who argue that gay marriage is not constitutional are often regarded as not being LGBT allies. But these are two unrelated things. Nothing about being pro-LGBT means you would think the constitution permitted gay marriage. But if you say the constitution doesn't permit gay marriage, you are viewed as...
MysticInept
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CMV: I fear most gun owners are subconsciously bloodthirsty *Read the details please..I am talking about gun owners that open carry not all gun owners. I Don't fear for my life I just don't trust these individuals* I've noticed that on days I do carry my thoughts are dominated by warped thoughts ; I feel superior, in...
Nearly all your points are subjective and are great reasons why *you* shouldn't carry a gun. But not everyone is having those thoughts while carrying, you're projecting. --- I am not against concealed open carry but I do believe that subconsciously you start to develop a superiority complex while carrying. Decent peo...
While I do see those behaviors among some gun *enthusiasts* where they fantasize about getting into a gun fight, that isn't generally true of most gun owners, like people that just own a single gun to be used for protecting their home. The typical gun owner doesn't open carry. In the US, 43% of households own a gun. ...
d95t45
CMV: I fear most gun owners are subconsciously bloodthirsty
*Read the details please..I am talking about gun owners that open carry not all gun owners. I Don't fear for my life I just don't trust these individuals* I've noticed that on days I do carry my thoughts are dominated by warped thoughts ; I feel superior, invincible, on edge. I now leave my weapon at home. I have fri...
lion_lin
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CMV: I fear most gun owners are subconsciously bloodthirsty *Read the details please..I am talking about gun owners that open carry not all gun owners. I Don't fear for my life I just don't trust these individuals* I've noticed that on days I do carry my thoughts are dominated by warped thoughts ; I feel superior, in...
While I do see those behaviors among some gun *enthusiasts* where they fantasize about getting into a gun fight, that isn't generally true of most gun owners, like people that just own a single gun to be used for protecting their home. The typical gun owner doesn't open carry. In the US, 43% of households own a gun. ...
I disagree with you but I’m not downvoting your post because this subreddit is for discussion, not suppression. I own a gun to protect my loved ones, but I hope I’ll never have to use it on a living being, I bought a gun for my fiancé so I don’t have to worry about her being sexually assaulted. Guns are only as good or...
d95t45
CMV: I fear most gun owners are subconsciously bloodthirsty
*Read the details please..I am talking about gun owners that open carry not all gun owners. I Don't fear for my life I just don't trust these individuals* I've noticed that on days I do carry my thoughts are dominated by warped thoughts ; I feel superior, invincible, on edge. I now leave my weapon at home. I have fri...
lion_lin
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CMV: America DOES NOT need Israel and we are actively being harmed by having them as an ally Before I go further, please understand this: I am open to seeing this differently. I am not antisemitic, I do not want Israel to die as a country, I wish no harm on anyone, I just do not see the benefit of having Israel as an ...
1. The deal is worth $38B **over a decade**, not $38B in 2018, all of which goes to US defense companies. So at the end of the day it's not much different than the ridiculous $693,058,000,000 the US already funnels to the military industrial complex, except we get a strategic partner in the region instead of military h...
Israel is a hyper militarist, paranoid, nuclear armed state sitting in the middle of a highly strategic and unstable region. We have to keep in mind the fallout of our actions. Israel will not disappear if the US dumps them (at least not without some literal fallout on top of the figurative sort). They will seek out n...
ebsnvp
CMV: America DOES NOT need Israel and we are actively being harmed by having them as an ally
Before I go further, please understand this: I am open to seeing this differently. I am not antisemitic, I do not want Israel to die as a country, I wish no harm on anyone, I just do not see the benefit of having Israel as an ally and would prefer we leave Israel to their own devices. From my understanding, all they d...
hrod618
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CMV: if we allow transgender people to use the locker room of the gender they identify as, and if we also acknowledge non-binary genders, then we have to open all bathrooms/locker rooms to everyone, because there's nowhere else you can draw the line and be consistent about it. I support transgender bathroom/locker roo...
There's no enforcement. You draw your own line at the gender you identify with. It's how it's always worked before a bunch of d-bags tried to legislate people into a second class. People overthink this. Just pee and leave. That's what everyone else is doing, including the transgendered people, most of which you likely...
>But the problem is that if you allow people to use the women's changing room as long as they identify as 100% female, then what about people who identify as 90% female? Or 50% female, or 10% female? If you draw the line anywhere, and if you actually enforce it, then people who lie near the boundary are going to get in...
6kw6w7
CMV: if we allow transgender people to use the locker room of the gender they identify as, and if we also acknowledge non-binary genders, then we have to open all bathrooms/locker rooms to everyone, because there's nowhere else you can draw the line and be consistent about it.
I support transgender bathroom/locker room access, and I support acknowledgement of nonbinary genders, but I don't especially like the idea of all locker rooms being open to anyone (some women will just stop going if they have to share a locker room with cishet men). However, I can't see any other logical endpoint. I a...
bennetthaselton
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CMV: the Texas anti-abortion law is self defeating Texas has taken a novel approach in their wording of the legislation: Rather than have the government enforce the law, private citizens will be allowed to sue the provider or anyone that helps the woman to get an abortion. The Texas Tribune writes that "supporters of ...
>The law is too clever since citizens acting on behalf of the law will have to defend themselves by providing evidence that the embryo has a heartbeat; performing a medical procedure without consent is assault. obtaining private health information is a violation of law. therefore citizens will have no grounds to sue or...
Even if the lawsuit fails, the person who assisted in the abortion still has to go to court and pay for a lawyer to defend themselves. The law also requires the trial to take place in whatever of Texas’s 254 counties the person who sued the abettor wants it to. Texas is a biiig state and a protracted trial 700 miles a...
pid1s6
CMV: the Texas anti-abortion law is self defeating
Texas has taken a novel approach in their wording of the legislation: Rather than have the government enforce the law, private citizens will be allowed to sue the provider or anyone that helps the woman to get an abortion. The Texas Tribune writes that "supporters of the bill hope this novel provision will trip up lega...
tcellsrus
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CMV: the Texas anti-abortion law is self defeating Texas has taken a novel approach in their wording of the legislation: Rather than have the government enforce the law, private citizens will be allowed to sue the provider or anyone that helps the woman to get an abortion. The Texas Tribune writes that "supporters of ...
>The law is too clever since citizens acting on behalf of the law will have to defend themselves by providing evidence that the embryo has a heartbeat; performing a medical procedure without consent is assault. obtaining private health information is a violation of law. therefore citizens will have no grounds to sue or...
They can just ask the physician, "before you performed it, did ultrasound reveal a heartbeat?" And since there's no legal doctor patient confidentiality, they doctor will have to answer whether there was one or not. Which if it was after 6 weeks, there was probably one. Also, the law just aims to try to prove it. It'...
pid1s6
CMV: the Texas anti-abortion law is self defeating
Texas has taken a novel approach in their wording of the legislation: Rather than have the government enforce the law, private citizens will be allowed to sue the provider or anyone that helps the woman to get an abortion. The Texas Tribune writes that "supporters of the bill hope this novel provision will trip up lega...
tcellsrus
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CMV: Not all X are Y I expect this to have few responses, and I will only be replying to the comments that most clearly present an opposing opinion. Given the exclusion of certain obviously fallacious examples (not all frogs are quadratic equations), i find this line of reasonint to be a simple but highly accurate f...
Anytime the word “all” is used it has nearly a 100% chance of making the sentence false. Your statement is “Not all X are Y” Yet some X are Y. Your statement is technically inaccurate as stated. Maybe refrain from a CMV that states the obvious. --- you are not converting the logical statements correctly. Som...
Does one (or several) of the following summarize your view well? * People today over-generalize about people who are dissimilar from them politically * It is a serious problem that people do the above * There are specific groups of people where I am worried about over-generalization, such as Trump supporters. [If so, ...
89rj1s
CMV: Not all X are Y
I expect this to have few responses, and I will only be replying to the comments that most clearly present an opposing opinion. Given the exclusion of certain obviously fallacious examples (not all frogs are quadratic equations), i find this line of reasonint to be a simple but highly accurate fix to many arguments a...
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CMV: Not all X are Y I expect this to have few responses, and I will only be replying to the comments that most clearly present an opposing opinion. Given the exclusion of certain obviously fallacious examples (not all frogs are quadratic equations), i find this line of reasonint to be a simple but highly accurate f...
All posters on T_D have *some* sort of common quality that draws them to post to T_D, no? --- I could answer yes, but then that singular quality would be an in publicly showing respect to POTUS (excluding trolls of course), and that one characteristic is no more defining than "people that like ice cream". But to be...
Anytime the word “all” is used it has nearly a 100% chance of making the sentence false. Your statement is “Not all X are Y” Yet some X are Y. Your statement is technically inaccurate as stated. Maybe refrain from a CMV that states the obvious. --- you are not converting the logical statements correctly. Som...
89rj1s
CMV: Not all X are Y
I expect this to have few responses, and I will only be replying to the comments that most clearly present an opposing opinion. Given the exclusion of certain obviously fallacious examples (not all frogs are quadratic equations), i find this line of reasonint to be a simple but highly accurate fix to many arguments a...
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