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CMV: We should kill all of the pandas
I feel like the only reason that pandas still exist is because they are "cute." They serve no utilitarian purpose in their environment, they are almost impossible to breed because they have a very specific mating routine, and they sink millions of dollars of our money every year. ... | The value of pandas is to raise funds that fund the conservation of other species. They're mascots. Very good ones. It's not possible to raise anywhere near the amount of money by slapping a photo of a crocodile or a spider on a marketing intended to raise money.
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[I don't think it's as efficient as it might be >:... | Yes. They're a potent [instrument of Chinese foreign policy.](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/chinas-choice/2014/feb/27/china-panda-diplomacy) Cute works.
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Thank you to bringing this to my attention.
!delta | 64ftc0 | CMV: We should kill all of the pandas | I feel like the only reason that pandas still exist is because they are "cute." They serve no utilitarian purpose in their environment, they are almost impossible to breed because they have a very specific mating routine, and they sink millions of dollars of our money every year. Under the rules of evolution, they woul... | ManMan36 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Marjorie Taylor Greene is actually a Sacha Baron Cohen-esque comedian in character seeing how far the most ridiculous parody of a right-wing nut job can go in contemporary American politics.
I mean, no one can possibly be *that* ridiculous, right?
In fact, I think Lauren Boebert and Madison Cawthorne might be i... | Sacha Baron Cohen's humor was never dependent on harassing or insulting people who have experienced deep personal trauma or loss. He would mock people who held offensive or out of touch views, but he never tried to actually hurt people.
He wouldn't follow around the survivor of a school shooting and call them a coward... | Ok, do you actually seriously believe she has been faking her positions 24/7 for years? That’s not at all like Sacha Baron Cohen.
Even if she was, that doesn’t make her not a bad person. If you actions can be causing harm to someone, you’re a bad person. She’s called for executions of Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, and she’s... | lcpn0g | CMV: Marjorie Taylor Greene is actually a Sacha Baron Cohen-esque comedian in character seeing how far the most ridiculous parody of a right-wing nut job can go in contemporary American politics. | I mean, no one can possibly be *that* ridiculous, right?
In fact, I think Lauren Boebert and Madison Cawthorne might be in on it, too. A trio of people who came out of nowhere: one is from the part of Georgia where the movie “Deliverance” takes place and has never met a conspiracy theory she didn’t believe, who joins... | DelectPierro | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: A consumption tax is much more preferable to income and sales taxes.
To start off, I think in order for a consumption tax to work and be as fair as possible it will need some caveats, which I will list with my reasons. I believe a consumption tax done in the way I will write is more preferable for the following r... | Another way to look at this idea:
People that live paycheck-to-paycheck should be taxed on every dollar.
People that earn excess of what they spend should not.
I don't see how that makes sense.
With this idea, the people with the *highest* effective tax rate would be the people most struggling to get by. The more... | This encourages hoarding of money. People will spend less to be taxed less. We need people to spend in a capitalist economy.
It's like the Margaritaville South Park episode. If the community hoards money, businesses that depend on their patronage will fail. Their suppliers will fail. None of these displaced employees ... | n0iy8c | CMV: A consumption tax is much more preferable to income and sales taxes. | To start off, I think in order for a consumption tax to work and be as fair as possible it will need some caveats, which I will list with my reasons. I believe a consumption tax done in the way I will write is more preferable for the following reasons:
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CMV: A consumption tax is much more preferable to income and sales taxes.
To start off, I think in order for a consumption tax to work and be as fair as possible it will need some caveats, which I will list with my reasons. I believe a consumption tax done in the way I will write is more preferable for the following r... | Another way to look at this idea:
People that live paycheck-to-paycheck should be taxed on every dollar.
People that earn excess of what they spend should not.
I don't see how that makes sense.
With this idea, the people with the *highest* effective tax rate would be the people most struggling to get by. The more... | This encourages hoarding of money. People will spend less to be taxed less. We need people to spend in a capitalist economy.
It's like the Margaritaville South Park episode. If the community hoards money, businesses that depend on their patronage will fail. Their suppliers will fail. None of these displaced employees ... | n0iy8c | CMV: A consumption tax is much more preferable to income and sales taxes. | To start off, I think in order for a consumption tax to work and be as fair as possible it will need some caveats, which I will list with my reasons. I believe a consumption tax done in the way I will write is more preferable for the following reasons:
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CMV: Latinos are strong-arming Americans into shaping immigration laws favorable to them.
Tldr: too many Latinos makes it improbable and costly to enact laws on them, playing into their hands, while making slow demographic changes that make it impossible to pass any law anytime that can even marginally affect their co... | There's a lot to unpack here. I'll try to distill it down to four assertions you've made:
1. The United States should pick and choose who legally immigrates to it.
2. Due to proximity, Latinxs have a disproportionate (and therefore unfair) representation in immigration reform interests.
3. Democrats tacitly support... | >America's birthright citizenship skewing the voting demographics
What exactly do you mean by this? People who are children of immigrants and were born in the U.S. are U.S. citizens, just like everyone else who was born here. They are not skewing the demographics away from citizens and towards non-citizens.
Do you m... | 9j29oz | CMV: Latinos are strong-arming Americans into shaping immigration laws favorable to them. | Tldr: too many Latinos makes it improbable and costly to enact laws on them, playing into their hands, while making slow demographic changes that make it impossible to pass any law anytime that can even marginally affect their community, due to the Latino voting blocks created. That is rewarding a community for breakin... | indcolcon | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Latinos are strong-arming Americans into shaping immigration laws favorable to them.
Tldr: too many Latinos makes it improbable and costly to enact laws on them, playing into their hands, while making slow demographic changes that make it impossible to pass any law anytime that can even marginally affect their co... | >Additionally, because of America's weird laws on birthright citizenship, children born out to parents whose presence in American borders is illegal, get to skew the numbers in their own favor.
That’s not a “skewing”, that’s just “American voters expressing their viewpoints.”
Whether you agree with how citizenship is... | >America's birthright citizenship skewing the voting demographics
What exactly do you mean by this? People who are children of immigrants and were born in the U.S. are U.S. citizens, just like everyone else who was born here. They are not skewing the demographics away from citizens and towards non-citizens.
Do you m... | 9j29oz | CMV: Latinos are strong-arming Americans into shaping immigration laws favorable to them. | Tldr: too many Latinos makes it improbable and costly to enact laws on them, playing into their hands, while making slow demographic changes that make it impossible to pass any law anytime that can even marginally affect their community, due to the Latino voting blocks created. That is rewarding a community for breakin... | indcolcon | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Latinos are strong-arming Americans into shaping immigration laws favorable to them.
Tldr: too many Latinos makes it improbable and costly to enact laws on them, playing into their hands, while making slow demographic changes that make it impossible to pass any law anytime that can even marginally affect their co... | Contrary to what liberals and conservatives want you to think, Latinos are very hardworking people that represent more of what the American dream is supposed to represent.
Those who come to the country legally, which is most of them, usually support border protection. In my experience, they're not a big fan of being b... | >America's birthright citizenship skewing the voting demographics
What exactly do you mean by this? People who are children of immigrants and were born in the U.S. are U.S. citizens, just like everyone else who was born here. They are not skewing the demographics away from citizens and towards non-citizens.
Do you m... | 9j29oz | CMV: Latinos are strong-arming Americans into shaping immigration laws favorable to them. | Tldr: too many Latinos makes it improbable and costly to enact laws on them, playing into their hands, while making slow demographic changes that make it impossible to pass any law anytime that can even marginally affect their community, due to the Latino voting blocks created. That is rewarding a community for breakin... | indcolcon | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: SSSniperwolf Bingo was a Bad Idea
# Disclaimer
Before I get further into this, I want to clarify that *yes*, I am aware that there has been an [incident](https://youtu.be/aeMHMnOWkw4?si=S-ax21KmYIEj9xlC) around this topic that involves potentially criminal, but definitely immoral behavior on the part of SSSniper... | this is all such a bewildering landscape to me tbh...
from what I've read it seems all of this could have been avoided if the jack fella wasn't acting like a dick and seemingly trolling another youtuber for essentially no reason
that's all from just a surface level view of this insane drama...
couldn't this dude jus... | >Even though there may not have been harassment involved, Jack did encourage and endorse behavior that attacked SSSniperwolf's channel. In this video, he celebrates the fact that someone from his audience was able to get her to delete clips and even entire videos. While it is easy to justify this, as it was done in sup... | 181cwqv | CMV: SSSniperwolf Bingo was a Bad Idea | # Disclaimer
Before I get further into this, I want to clarify that *yes*, I am aware that there has been an [incident](https://youtu.be/aeMHMnOWkw4?si=S-ax21KmYIEj9xlC) around this topic that involves potentially criminal, but definitely immoral behavior on the part of SSSniperwolf. And *no*, this post does not aim t... | 00PT | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Chernobyl is an Exaggerated Disaster
I forget what number they used, but I believe it was at least in the 10's of thousands (maybe hundreds). The official IAEA number of 4,000 seems reasonable, and I'd even be willing to accept 50,000. At a certain point people seem to just be villainizing nuclear energy and/or t... | >If fire has no consequences aside from its immediate effects why should nuclear?
The disaster was in 1986. Today there is still a 1,000 square mile exclusion zone where it is deemed unsafe to live. You don’t get anything like that with a fire.
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That's according to regulations. A lot of wildlife seems to be doi... | > I forget what number they used, but I believe it was at least in the 10's of thousands (maybe hundreds). The official IAEA number of 4,000 seems reasonable, and I'd even be willing to accept 50,000.
4000 what? 50000 what?
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what? 4,000 is the IAEA estimate. 50,000 is as far as I'd go in inflating it. 2,000,0000 ... | ey1h1m | CMV: Chernobyl is an Exaggerated Disaster | I forget what number they used, but I believe it was at least in the 10's of thousands (maybe hundreds). The official IAEA number of 4,000 seems reasonable, and I'd even be willing to accept 50,000. At a certain point people seem to just be villainizing nuclear energy and/or the Russians.
Mt. St. Helens officially kil... | domgary | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Owning land is evil (and, by extension, every country on earth is evil).
This view will probably take some serious explaining, and I apologize ahead of time for that. Perhaps I'm just not good at brevity. Here goes:
**Preamble:**
I am something of an eternal outsider. I would probably claim, if asked, that this ... | I follow your argument, but I think you've left out some key factors that undercut the argument. First of all, the total land of the world may be finite, but we haven't reached that limit, nowhere near it; there are many parts of the globe that are still effectively empty. Some of them are more or less uninhabitable bu... | >organizations cannot not do evil
I can't see what you have based this on. You may have some examples of organizations that follow this rule, but seeing a few white swans isn't enough to be able to say "all swans are white".
There is an organization near me that I'm certain has not done any evil. It's the under ... | 9j0urm | CMV: Owning land is evil (and, by extension, every country on earth is evil). | This view will probably take some serious explaining, and I apologize ahead of time for that. Perhaps I'm just not good at brevity. Here goes:
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I am something of an eternal outsider. I would probably claim, if asked, that this is because I cannot avoid seeing how much hurt people inflict on each other by ... | toastyoaties1 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Owning land is evil (and, by extension, every country on earth is evil).
This view will probably take some serious explaining, and I apologize ahead of time for that. Perhaps I'm just not good at brevity. Here goes:
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I am something of an eternal outsider. I would probably claim, if asked, that this ... | Humans are social animals, but we value personal space. This isn't a choice it's a requirement wired into our brains.
The only logical reason we are allowed to own land is because democratic governments know that healthy people need an area where they can dictate control over it. Like mowing thier lawn whenever they w... | I follow your argument, but I think you've left out some key factors that undercut the argument. First of all, the total land of the world may be finite, but we haven't reached that limit, nowhere near it; there are many parts of the globe that are still effectively empty. Some of them are more or less uninhabitable bu... | 9j0urm | CMV: Owning land is evil (and, by extension, every country on earth is evil). | This view will probably take some serious explaining, and I apologize ahead of time for that. Perhaps I'm just not good at brevity. Here goes:
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CMV: Someone should leak “Coyote vs Acme” on the internet
Warner Bros Discovery produced a Looney Tunes “Coyote vs Acme” film, produced by James Gunn and starring John Cena. In test screenings, the reactions were overwhelmingly positive by the audience.
But WBD CEO David Zaslav decided that it would be better to nev... | >My view: WBD doesn’t want to release the film themselves nor sell it to other studios. With that, it would be perfectly ok (although illegal) for someone to leak the film on the internet, just like they did with “Scooby and Krypto”, a movie that would have had the same fate if not for a leak....
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>Zaslav just sou... | Why *should* someone do that? That hasn't been explained. You're basically just saying 'Yeah besides facing consequences, someone should just do whatever'. Well, why?
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But WBD CEO David Zaslav decided that it would be better to never release the film for the company to get a tax off in its... | cgaglioni | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Plant based should become the prevailing diet in the world after a gradual phasing out of animal products.
Edit: Thanks everyone for your responses. It's nice to have a discussion without it degenerating into flinging "soy boy" insults for once. The insect argument is very compelling and one I will definitely be ... | Why not switch to cricket and other insect based food? Insects are already killed during harvesting anyway. And insect based foods are more efficient than harvesting plants; They are even better for the environment than a plant based diet. Plus they come with nutrients that a vegan diet lacks, namely B12.
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This is... | But then billions of animal lives would not exist (would not be born for food).
If you believe that it’s better to live a life — even a short one that ends in murder — than to not live at all, then phasing out animal products would be a substantial harm.
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So as a human would you rather be raised and tortured for ... | eycvy3 | CMV: Plant based should become the prevailing diet in the world after a gradual phasing out of animal products. | Edit: Thanks everyone for your responses. It's nice to have a discussion without it degenerating into flinging "soy boy" insults for once. The insect argument is very compelling and one I will definitely be looking into.
People ask me why I try not to eat animal products. I usually answer "because it is unfair for an ... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Farmed animals live better lives than wild animals, thus carnivorous diets, with some stipulations, are ethical.
*with exception to factory farming, veal, fur farming, etc, and putting a pin in environmental concerns.
If animals reared for food live lives without predation, with a constant supply of food, in the... | In many species, the young males are culled off early. For example, goats: assuming the herd has a couple billy goat studs already, the young males are slaughtered at a couple months of age before they can reach sexual maturity and start fighting amongst eachother, as well as for economic reasons since the males can't ... | Cows live 20 years in the wild, but only 5 years on a farm
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Not that it changes your argument drastically, but cows don't actually live in the wild do they? The closest analogue I could find was a bison, and while they can live up to 25 years in captivity, they average 15 in the wild. Most animal lifespan data t... | lcmxnd | CMV: Farmed animals live better lives than wild animals, thus carnivorous diets, with some stipulations, are ethical. | *with exception to factory farming, veal, fur farming, etc, and putting a pin in environmental concerns.
If animals reared for food live lives without predation, with a constant supply of food, in the open air, then they have an incredibly coddled existence compared to an overwhelming, 99%+, majority of all life that ... | BullionGodspeed | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The term 'Addiction' is widely overused and misunderstood
Many people seem to not understand what addiction is and will say things like "you can be addicted to anything", but I don't believe that is true. People say things like "coffee is addictive" or "shopping is addictive", without understanding that addiction... | You are advocating changing the definition and the use. It's completely appropriate to say someone has a caffeine or shopping addiction as the word is currently defined and used.
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I don’t want the definition changed. My point was that people don’t use the term addiction properly, which undermines people who actual... | You are conflating addiction and dependence.
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I was trying to differentiate the two, because most people believe they are interchangeable terms for each other.
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I don't think most people do.
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Because addiction is so much more severe than dependence.
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I don't think anyone would disagree with that, or... | 180yp46 | CMV: The term 'Addiction' is widely overused and misunderstood | Many people seem to not understand what addiction is and will say things like "you can be addicted to anything", but I don't believe that is true. People say things like "coffee is addictive" or "shopping is addictive", without understanding that addiction is actually a very complex mental health disorder. If tomorrow ... | AshtonG06 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and Golan Heights is unjustified.
I don’t really care that they conquered it from Arab nations. I consider conquest a valid form of nation building. I’m not even taking sides between Arab countries and Israel here, or saying that Arab countries weren’t similarly or more discri... | Israel won it fair and square. There are plenty of Arab majority nation's that could welcome those Arabs who are dissatisfied, yet they don't even though they expelled their own Jewish populations
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And why should they? Why does a foreign country have to bear the burden of their neighbour depriving parts of their ... | It's not good and it's a bad situation but you are ignoring one issue. The Arabs in West bank and Golan heights keep electing people who want to push all Jews into the sea.
If they leave them alone they gather weapons to invade and destroy israel. If they let them be citizens they would vote to kill all jews.
It's as... | d7hviu | CMV: Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and Golan Heights is unjustified. | I don’t really care that they conquered it from Arab nations. I consider conquest a valid form of nation building. I’m not even taking sides between Arab countries and Israel here, or saying that Arab countries weren’t similarly or more discriminatory against Jews. My gripe has more to do with the fact that Israel is o... | keep_calm_rocket_on | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Claiming to be Agnostic should mean that you reject Abrahamic Religion
Seeing a lot of religious themed posts so I thought I'd post about an argument I've had a few times. For context, I'm an American living in the southern US.
Let me limit what I mean to the following: Many people claim to be agnostic because t... | You're right, the casual agnostic is not fully committing to atheism. That is kind of the point of casual agnosticism. I dunno why you're saying it like it's an insult or something? Like, do you think casual agnostics want to convert people to agnosticism? Why does it matter to a casual agnostic if some other people be... | I think you are confusing being an atheist with being agnostic. Someone who is agnostic, by definition, doesn't claim to know either way. They believe there may be a God or higher power but maybe not. That's it's beyond human's ability to truly understand.
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Well that's what I'm saying in the first argument. They'r... | 180uf60 | CMV: Claiming to be Agnostic should mean that you reject Abrahamic Religion | Seeing a lot of religious themed posts so I thought I'd post about an argument I've had a few times. For context, I'm an American living in the southern US.
Let me limit what I mean to the following: Many people claim to be agnostic because they simply cannot say whether or not any god or higher power exists. They'll ... | 9to5Academia | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Transgender People Shouldn't Care What Gender Society Sees Them As
I don't care if people are transgender, in the nicest possible way. I understand them as much as is possible without relating, support their right to be classified as their "real" gender rather than their birth sex, blah blah blah.
But I don't u... | Not really sure what you want to be convinced of. It isn't like trans people wake up on day and decide that they want to be miserable because of gender dysphoria. It isn't a decision, its just part of how their mind works. Quibbling over if they "should" is pointless because they do feel that way.
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I don't thin... | Or, just show respect them and their pronouns. Just show them enough respect to call them by their preferred pronouns. It doesn’t require much from you. Just because you don’t understand their internal pain doesn’t mean it’s not real pain.
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I do use their preferred pronouns. Read my first paragraph. I respect th... | lcm3bx | CMV: Transgender People Shouldn't Care What Gender Society Sees Them As | I don't care if people are transgender, in the nicest possible way. I understand them as much as is possible without relating, support their right to be classified as their "real" gender rather than their birth sex, blah blah blah.
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CMV: Stupidity is not forgivable.
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It's about keeping your own ego in check "no... | >stupidity isn't as bad as malice... and often people take this a step further an think there should be no punishment at all for blatant repeated incompetence that may or may not be actual malice and outright criminal intent.
How? If someone is completely incompetent at their job they're sacked. How is that not punish... | 1anf72p | CMV: Stupidity is not forgivable. | Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity is a quote often cited to excuse some really messed up shit. The quote essentially means that if you can't prove it's malice then just assume it's stupidity. However there's the underlining assumption in our culture or perhaps it's even implied in the quote ... | FlyingNFireType | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I think morality is subjective and contextual
I've always been under the impression that morality works subjectively and within context. I hold the view that there is no one true standard for morality, what one person decides is a good thing can mean something else to others.
An example would be the entire abort... | That's something that has been discussed by philosophers for ages. What you believe is called moral relativism, and it's closely related with nihilism. One of the most famous example of moral relativism demonstration is the trolley problem, which you must have seen dozens of times memed right here on reddit. It shows t... | >The reason I find the above situation above subjective and contextual is for the simple fact a debate even exist and laws being based on them.
A debate existing is not enough to show that something is subjective. People debate about things like the shape of the Earth. In those cases, we wouldn't say that the Earth's... | lcfrlm | CMV: I think morality is subjective and contextual | I've always been under the impression that morality works subjectively and within context. I hold the view that there is no one true standard for morality, what one person decides is a good thing can mean something else to others.
An example would be the entire abortion debate, I am personally pro-choice so I let othe... | sifsand | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I don’t find it morally wrong to pirate old, overpriced, or games that aren’t good.
I don’t see a harm in pirating an older game that is barely making money anymore. I don’t feel morally wrong in any way when I do this and it’s completely fine for me.
Overpriced games I do feel a little bad sometimes, but not m... | Why is it morally wrong to pirate games that do not fit into any of these three categories?
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Some developers deserve money for their work.
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Let's say you have a boss who is very particular. Is it OK for them to not pay you if they decide you have not done a good enough job? And keep in mind, in this example i... | If a game is so bad, that it's good, then it's good.
A truly bad game wouldn't even be worth messing around with.
If something is genuinely worth your time, then it's not so bad that you don't have to pay for it.
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A game that is bad enough to be good in a funny way, but not worth spending hard earned money on.... | mzzob9 | CMV: I don’t find it morally wrong to pirate old, overpriced, or games that aren’t good. | I don’t see a harm in pirating an older game that is barely making money anymore. I don’t feel morally wrong in any way when I do this and it’s completely fine for me.
Overpriced games I do feel a little bad sometimes, but not much. I think the developers do deserve money for their work, but not as much as they ask.
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CMV:China did it to themselves with the Coronavirus
Ok,this may be a controversial one,but I really wanted to talk to someone about it.
So,we all know what the virus is,so I won't explain it.
We all know chinese people eat a lot of weird shit.Bats,rats,snakes etc. Some of them even alive.This is the problem,eating r... | [removed]
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It's not even that. It's anyone not in a city lives in absolute filth. They have no running water and poop in a hole. They are in the middle of thier industrial revolution and it's literally one of the most disgusting places on earth. This won't be the last virus from China
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Ok yes,... | The virus is spread person to person not from eating live animals. You are very misinformed.
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Every virus must have a start right?It couldn't just develop in a human and then get spread.
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Scientists aren't claiming they know the origin so what are you basing theses assumptions on if not scientific consensus?
... | eyb54s | CMV:China did it to themselves with the Coronavirus | Ok,this may be a controversial one,but I really wanted to talk to someone about it.
So,we all know what the virus is,so I won't explain it.
We all know chinese people eat a lot of weird shit.Bats,rats,snakes etc. Some of them even alive.This is the problem,eating rats can only gove you disease,and that's it.You can't... | GabiTGB | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: asking for each other’s height is same as asking for age
Some people aren’t willing to date certain individuals that don’t meet certain criteria. That’s a known thing.
But a lot of guys seem to retaliate to “how big are your tits” or “how much do you weigh”.
The later is not as offensive as it’s not even sexu... | In my opinion height is different from age, but not different to other physical characteristics.
If you are taking physical characteristics then height, weight, size are all fairly superficial and in the same category in my opinion. Just be polite and not an ass about it, maybe ask for a description of the person rat... | Why should height matter? In fact, if you are concerned about height, it shows how superficial you are. It is also reminiscent of the toxic norm of "men should be taller than women", when men have no control over the way they are born.
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Data seems to show that taller men tend to be more successful into positions o... | ey581y | CMV: asking for each other’s height is same as asking for age | Some people aren’t willing to date certain individuals that don’t meet certain criteria. That’s a known thing.
But a lot of guys seem to retaliate to “how big are your tits” or “how much do you weigh”.
The later is not as offensive as it’s not even sexual. Technically that shouldn’t be a problem either really. I do... | VMSstudio | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: You should have to take a literacy/common sense test in order to vote (U.S.)
I think there should be a short test administered on election day (or before) consisting of basic reading comprehension and analytical questions. It should be so easy that at least 90% of the population can pass, and it could be provided... | >This way, people with mental disabilities, serious dementia, or those who can't read would not be able to vote
Why should these people not be allowed to express their political interests in voting? These groups all have concerns that need addressing e.g. literacy education, healthcare, medical research.
Why should ... | Nope. Some people who can't read well can still have critical thinking skills. Dyslexia is a thing, as well as poor schooling. People without critical thinking skills can still detect character flaws and good character by just looking at a candidate on television. It is devilishly hard to create a test that is not ... | d7cjam | CMV: You should have to take a literacy/common sense test in order to vote (U.S.) | I think there should be a short test administered on election day (or before) consisting of basic reading comprehension and analytical questions. It should be so easy that at least 90% of the population can pass, and it could be provided in English, Spanish, Chinese, and other languages. This way, people with mental di... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's okay for NFL fans to feel fatigued by Taylor Swift
Swifties, please don't murder me. I mean no disrespect to your queen.
I don't believe a lot of the fatigue around Taylor Swift has to do with the person. After all, as a grown adult, she's entitled to enjoy a football game and cheer on her partner, like... | I know what you mean, I'm a huge fan of Gisele Bündchen, but I swear every time they talk about her, they have to mention how her ex-husband won a few football games.
I mean, they even put a headline in the local papers here that said "Gisele's husband wins Super Bowl"
Like, I just want to focus on the fashion modeli... | >Spike Lee is prominently featured at Knicks games… Drake highlights from these games… I received an Apple news alert… I tune into my favorite fantasy football program… I tune into a sports caster's show… sports league that blackballed Colin… Travis Kelce
Would you say that you consume an above average amount of sport... | 1amegzw | CMV: It's okay for NFL fans to feel fatigued by Taylor Swift | Swifties, please don't murder me. I mean no disrespect to your queen.
I don't believe a lot of the fatigue around Taylor Swift has to do with the person. After all, as a grown adult, she's entitled to enjoy a football game and cheer on her partner, like the rest of us.
The fatigue that I, and many of us are f... | daysofdre | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Children shouldn't be referred by any gender until they learn to talk and can speak out their gender by themselves
This is a thought that fascinates me, and I want to explore this. I intentionally made this claim blunt to make it more straight-forward to discuss.
I've heard of transgender people's experiences of... | My view is that:
* the existence of separate sexes (not genders) is an important fact about the world
* part of that is knowing your own sex. Not understanding that (e.g.) you are a boy (forget gender - I mean you are male), you have a penis, other children do not, and that is a difference between different people, ... | The harm of misgendering someone their entire lives comes from the disconnect between how they feel and what the world refers to them as.
By refusing to gender everyone, aren't you just pushing that same disconnect to be experienced by everyone?
Even if not every cisgendered child is distressed by this, even if its ... | lchlb0 | CMV: Children shouldn't be referred by any gender until they learn to talk and can speak out their gender by themselves | This is a thought that fascinates me, and I want to explore this. I intentionally made this claim blunt to make it more straight-forward to discuss.
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CMV: Spiteful protest voting may be justified even if threatens democracy
\> Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others
Even the most dictatorial/oligarchic ruling elites pretend to be democratic. Elections are necessity, but often there is a favorite or a group of established parties that ... | Don’t forget about the protest voting in Germany after WW1…
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Yes, of course. Thats why it is reckless and dangerous. Ideal solution - deliver a message and force mainstream to change policies without actually electing a demagogue.
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Wouldn’t holding nationwide Election Day protests, boycotting the election, an... | You're basically talking about populism. The problem with populism, and the reason why people vote for it, is that it offers simple solutions to complex problems.
"Your wages haven't increased for years and you feel poorer than ever before? Don't blame global macro-economic factors, structural issues or rising inequa... | 180fsk1 | CMV: Spiteful protest voting may be justified even if threatens democracy | \> Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others
Even the most dictatorial/oligarchic ruling elites pretend to be democratic. Elections are necessity, but often there is a favorite or a group of established parties that may ignore concerns of the voters. I.e fail to represent them.
So elites g... | WanabeInflatable | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We have nothing to fear about death.
(Warning: This will be a philosophical discussion on the problem of death. I am open to change my opinion, but I standby my opinion of people having nothing to fear of death as of 2/2/2020)
In 339 BCE, Socrates was sentenced to death for, among other things, not acknowledging... | Death is the unknown. Fear of the unknown is rational. Some are convinced there is an after life, others are not. To them it is simply the end.
Even for those who believe in an after life, there is the question of have I been worthy enough to enter heaven?
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Yet since we can reason, and even if logic doesn't ... | Well fear of death is for the most part primal. You can't just logic it away. Self-preservation is hard-coded into you and into how you live and think (unless it isn't which is a pretty interesting genetic disorder)
Fear in general is not logical. You can even go as far as to say there is nothing we should fear. Cauti... | exya4o | CMV: We have nothing to fear about death. | (Warning: This will be a philosophical discussion on the problem of death. I am open to change my opinion, but I standby my opinion of people having nothing to fear of death as of 2/2/2020)
In 339 BCE, Socrates was sentenced to death for, among other things, not acknowledging Athen's official deities. However, even wh... | 343495800tdsb | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: you can refuse to accept someone's identity and still treat them with respect and believe they should have human rights
(so big mistake rather than "accept" i meant "believe" meaning "**you can refuse to believe someone's identity** **and still treat them with respect and believe they should have human rights**" ... | I'm sure others have way better points and arguments, but I think its disrespectful to not call someone by their preferred pronoun if they ask you to. Even if you wouldn't take offense to being called the other gender, those who are trans are probably way more sensitive on the topic and will see it as a slight. To me, ... | [deleted]
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look at my animal point, if someone says im a wolf in all but physical ways (yeah i know the meme) is it disrespectful to tell him he's actually not a wolf?
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yes i agree because then its a word, but what if they respect all their names and pronouns but still don't actually believe t... | d7aps4 | CMV: you can refuse to accept someone's identity and still treat them with respect and believe they should have human rights | (so big mistake rather than "accept" i meant "believe" meaning "**you can refuse to believe someone's identity** **and still treat them with respect and believe they should have human rights**" because accept implies coming to terms with someone/something and if you can't come to terms with someone's identity then you ... | Acerbatus14 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Just like sex education, religion should be introduced to children only after they have reached a certain age and level of maturity.
Let me be clear. I know this cannot be imposed in any form by a government or a law. I am proposing this simply as a guideline for current and future parents.
My arguments are as ... | The whole family goes to church. The whole family celebrates Easter, Christmas, and other religious events. Should they just leave their 5 year old home and/or exclude them from holidays?
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Absolutely not! I'm not advocating that the family becomes a grey, blank slate in front of the 5 year old. But I believe that... | How do we deal with parents who choose to abide by certain religious rules, or religion that have ceremonies for children? For example, circumcision or baptisms, as well as groups like the Amish or Hasidic Jews?
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Good question. I see no problem with it if the child is still an infant. (as in the case of circumcisi... | 647u7d | CMV: Just like sex education, religion should be introduced to children only after they have reached a certain age and level of maturity. | Let me be clear. I know this cannot be imposed in any form by a government or a law. I am proposing this simply as a guideline for current and future parents.
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CMV: Hoping Ukraine can win on their own is just a hope.
Unless America or some other NATO nation is willing to help Ukraine defeat Russia, it is just a hope. Although Ukraine may retake the Donetsk and Lughansk Oblasts, Russia would never allow Crimea to fall. Look, in World War II they were willing to sacrifice mill... | > Look, in World War II they were willing to sacrifice millions of men to retake rightful Soviet land
The difference being that in World War II, Russia was fighting the Nazis in a war that would have spelt their end and the extermination of millions of slavs. In the current day, Russia is the aggressor and Ukraine h... | America should not be funding a war on the other side of the globe. It’s unfortunate but we have our own issues to be fixed first
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People expect America to save the world. It will ruin us.
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It already has. The USA is ran by the military industrial complex. People fail to realize we destabilized Ukraine and ca... | 1esvhyr | CMV: Hoping Ukraine can win on their own is just a hope. | Unless America or some other NATO nation is willing to help Ukraine defeat Russia, it is just a hope. Although Ukraine may retake the Donetsk and Lughansk Oblasts, Russia would never allow Crimea to fall. Look, in World War II they were willing to sacrifice millions of men to retake rightful Soviet land. I don't think ... | TeutonicCrusader1190 | 5 | 5 | [
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Cmv: It's hypocritical to tell your guy to stop liking bikini pics while you're out there posting your own bikini shots.
So, there's this woman Casiah West on Instagram, calls herself pink-pilled. She goes all out saying guys shouldn't be liking bikini pics because it's disrespectful to their partners. Funny thing is,... | It's not hypocritical as those are two different things. Posting bikini pics is showing off your body, liking someone's bikini pic is sending them information that you like their body. It is reasonable to be ok with showing off your body to people you don't plan to interact with but being not ok with interacting with o... | Social media + relationships = drama
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Now, I'm noticing more women doing the same. But her... | AppropriateGround623 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If implemented properly, retributive justice would not be a bad idea, as it would heavily reduce crime.
Simply put: if you rob a store at gunpoint and get caught, you shouldn’t get X amount of time in jail. You should lose a hand, or even a finger. This currently goes under the realm of cruel and unusual punishme... | And... what if this person was wrongly convicted of armed robbery. Do they get their hand back?
Or, do you believe the benefit of retributive justice outweighs the harm caused failures in the justice system?
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See, our current justice system (I could be slightly wrong) has a strategy that punishes criminals, then ... | Rehabilitation reduces crime not punishment. If X amount of years in jail doesn’t deter criminals, either will physically punishments.
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But jail is temporary. Loss of limb is permanent.
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Idk how it is in the rest of the world but in the United States jail is not temporary. Being charged with a felony does n... | 9iulhc | CMV: If implemented properly, retributive justice would not be a bad idea, as it would heavily reduce crime. | Simply put: if you rob a store at gunpoint and get caught, you shouldn’t get X amount of time in jail. You should lose a hand, or even a finger. This currently goes under the realm of cruel and unusual punishment, but if people understood the ramifications of illegal activity, and if the punishments were dire, they wou... | TanzerB | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Children enrolled in K-12 schools should have free lunch regardless of ability to pay or qualify for free lunch program.
According to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, basic needs such as shelter, and food must be obtained in order for an individual to progress higher through the pyramid. Children who are sated have a... |
>Some other considerations to consider for this issue could be some of the logistics while handling children with allergies
Not small if you screw it up. Kids could die. Food prepared by parents who know their children's health needs makes it safer.
There is also the issue of religious dietary requirements. Hala... | Parents chose voluntarily to have children, so they are responsible for the children. It’s not the taxpayers job to bail out parents for being irrational.
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Sure. Punish the kids to show the parents how irrational they are. Lol gottem!
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How is this punishing the kid? The money to pay would just come out of the... | exxla0 | CMV: Children enrolled in K-12 schools should have free lunch regardless of ability to pay or qualify for free lunch program. | According to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, basic needs such as shelter, and food must be obtained in order for an individual to progress higher through the pyramid. Children who are sated have a better ability to focus on their learning instead of on where their next meal is coming from. The meals provided at school mig... | EIUsesummers | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: Tucker Carlson interviewing Putin is NOT a bad thing
I don't understand the hate? I mean, I don't like Tucker as much as the next guy. But saying he isn't a journalist because of what he said trying to win a court case is just semantics. If you consistently cover news stories, do journalistic investigations, have... | I have some bad news. Tucker is only being allowed to interview Putin because he will spout pro-Fascist propaganda.
[Pro-Fasict propaganda is not journalism by any meaningful definition of the term.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkExu0VnZTA&t=0s)
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Then pro-(insert any propaganda or agenda from America) isn't j... | Lying to the courts is just semantics?
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Happens every day. I understand he said he was an entertainer and not a journalist. But he is a journalist. You can pick and prod and go through it with a fine tooth comb. But he is. Plain and simple.
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> But he is a journalist.
What makes someone a journalist? | 1am0kil | CMV: Tucker Carlson interviewing Putin is NOT a bad thing | I don't understand the hate? I mean, I don't like Tucker as much as the next guy. But saying he isn't a journalist because of what he said trying to win a court case is just semantics. If you consistently cover news stories, do journalistic investigations, have many open and unedited interviews with people of importanc... | Trapaholix1400 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Meditation techniques should be taught as part of the high school curriculum.
Now I know what you're thinking. *"Oh boy, here comes new-age astrology girl, come to tell us all about the healing power of crystals..."*
But that ain't me chief.
I'm here to talk to you today about the extensively documented benefit... | What would you take out of the current curriculum and replace with this?
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I don't believe anything needs to be taken out of the curriculum to accommodate this.
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This comes up in every single "add something to school" CMV. Perhaps nothing needs to be removed from the curriculum *entirely,* but there are a fixe... | Having a culture change in schools is needed and I agree with your viewpoint on this.
However, I think it is more suitable to practice meditation at home. Much like religion should be practiced in the home.
I say this mainly because if someone were to introduce a meditation curriculum or teaching into the education... | mzp46s | CMV: Meditation techniques should be taught as part of the high school curriculum. | Now I know what you're thinking. *"Oh boy, here comes new-age astrology girl, come to tell us all about the healing power of crystals..."*
But that ain't me chief.
I'm here to talk to you today about the extensively documented benefits to your physiological and psychological well being that can be accomplished throug... | [deleted] | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Meditation techniques should be taught as part of the high school curriculum.
Now I know what you're thinking. *"Oh boy, here comes new-age astrology girl, come to tell us all about the healing power of crystals..."*
But that ain't me chief.
I'm here to talk to you today about the extensively documented benefit... | All right. You're into science, not the supernatural. Good me too. Let's do this. I don't have a ton of time though so let's pick something out... and this stands out:
>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4895748/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4895748/)
>
>Fairly conclusive then, I think ... | [removed]
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Well that's no fun :( | mzp46s | CMV: Meditation techniques should be taught as part of the high school curriculum. | Now I know what you're thinking. *"Oh boy, here comes new-age astrology girl, come to tell us all about the healing power of crystals..."*
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CMV: We should give tropical systems (Hurricanes, Tropical Storms, etc.) more menacing names because then, people may start to take them more seriously.
I'm from the Houston area, and we recently suffered the wrath of Tropical Storm IMELDA.
Now, I know this may seem stupid when compared to more serious topics that a... | 1. People would start to associate the danger of the storm/hurricane by the name. But storms often need to be both up and down-graded, meaning that you might choose a REALLY intimidating name, then it turn turn out to be a Category 1 by the time it makes landfall. But changing the name as the storm is up-downgraded is ... | You have to think of the people that lost a home or loved one(s) afterward though, so let's let the hurricane not have a menacing name, it would add to the pain when it gets brought up wouldn't it?
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That still doesn't change my view. IMO, if you're loved one happens to perish in Hurricane Gertrude vs. Hurricane Dr... | d6w2fu | CMV: We should give tropical systems (Hurricanes, Tropical Storms, etc.) more menacing names because then, people may start to take them more seriously. | I'm from the Houston area, and we recently suffered the wrath of Tropical Storm IMELDA.
Now, I know this may seem stupid when compared to more serious topics that are often discussed on this subreddit, but hear me out.
When is the last time you met someone threatening named IMELDA?
I know this is purely psychologi... | TyGuyy | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Destruction of property is an effective form of protest.
I find the claim that "property destruction in protests are bad" is ridiculous.
Make no mistake. I do not condone violence against others in any degree, nor do I support the destruction and looting of random innocent people's property. However, if the pro... | [deleted]
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That could *be* the problem.
"Why are you using our taxes to do X? We do not endorse X, thus to show you we do not want our taxes going here, we will destroy it. this is in hopes to stop you from doing X again"
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Then you vote and fix the issues. | I guess I would argue it's not very effective since you're not really leaving a message. In the way simply saying 'im upset' doesn't solve relationship issues. You have to say why you're upset. It may be implied sometimes if the property destroyed is specific like a police station. But what is it about the police you d... | gwmcyc | CMV: Destruction of property is an effective form of protest. | I find the claim that "property destruction in protests are bad" is ridiculous.
Make no mistake. I do not condone violence against others in any degree, nor do I support the destruction and looting of random innocent people's property. However, if the property being destroyed is relevant to the protest itself, it is ... | It_is_not_that_hard | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: people who are into feet are much more likely to be sexually criminal.
Okay, so I’m basing my opinion off of one person. He was a person I knew from my old Modern Warfare 2 days when I was 15, me and my friends played with two other people from across the country who iirc were around 20. One of these lads was pro... | You litteraly state that your opinion is based solely (pun) off of *one* person. How would you react if someone based their opinion of your favourite subculture based just off of you?
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(Nice pun) I wouldn’t care tbh, In fairness, i do want my opinion changed as its making me dislike people
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Just stop it then.... | I'm going to address one thing in specific before I address your wider points, and that is:
> And I can’t trust someone with such low self control to not be a dirty little pedo.
Okay, but self control about one thing doesn't transfer to self control about another. Like if you saw someone who was bad at self control ... | ghqbo3 | CMV: people who are into feet are much more likely to be sexually criminal. | Okay, so I’m basing my opinion off of one person. He was a person I knew from my old Modern Warfare 2 days when I was 15, me and my friends played with two other people from across the country who iirc were around 20. One of these lads was proper into feet and we used to rinse him for it, same way we’d rinse each other... | SheTookHisDerb | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: people who are into feet are much more likely to be sexually criminal.
Okay, so I’m basing my opinion off of one person. He was a person I knew from my old Modern Warfare 2 days when I was 15, me and my friends played with two other people from across the country who iirc were around 20. One of these lads was pro... | You litteraly state that your opinion is based solely (pun) off of *one* person. How would you react if someone based their opinion of your favourite subculture based just off of you?
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(Nice pun) I wouldn’t care tbh, In fairness, i do want my opinion changed as its making me dislike people
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CMV: There is no secular argument for abortion to be illegal starting at the point of conception.
Hi all,
I’ve been thinking about abortion a lot recently and listening to some right wing commentators, and one argument I see a lot is that life starts at conception, so abortion at any point after that should be illega... | Sure there is.
At the moment of conception, a genetically unique human being is created. That's an indisputable scientific fact.
>It’s pretty clear to me that there isn’t really any moral problem with aborting what is essentially a cluster of cells at that point.
That's just you, personally. Morality isn't cut and d... | If i kill a pregnant women, won't I get charged with 2 murders? Seems like the law already knows what life is
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You know, I'm 100% pro choice and have had a lot of arguments with people about this, and this is the first even remotely rational point I've had someone bring up.
You didn't change my view on abortion, ... | eaqv2n | CMV: There is no secular argument for abortion to be illegal starting at the point of conception. | Hi all,
I’ve been thinking about abortion a lot recently and listening to some right wing commentators, and one argument I see a lot is that life starts at conception, so abortion at any point after that should be illegal. I see this argument framed as nonreligious since it’s science that defines when life starts, but... | Sophistick | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:The fact that there have been relatively few new #metoo revelations in the past year means it actually isn't all that common
QUICK TITLE EDIT - By "it" I mean sexual assault/harassment by powerful people in politics, media, corporate, Hollywood, etc. (If that wasn't obvious.)
So I was thinking about this today. ... | Actually the only thing it shows is that particular hashtag isn't as popular as it used to be or isn't used much. It says absolutely nothing about frequency of such revelations.
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Well if allegations were made against powerful people, wouldn't we hear about it in the media?
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The point of #metoo is that it's no... | Consider the complete abuse heaped on those who came forward.
Christine Blasey-Ford is still getting threats, even after moving 3000 miles from her life.
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/08/665407589/kavanaugh-accuser-christine-blasey-ford-continues-receiving-threats-lawyers-say
The Metoo movement led to a massive righ... | add5zr | CMV:The fact that there have been relatively few new #metoo revelations in the past year means it actually isn't all that common | QUICK TITLE EDIT - By "it" I mean sexual assault/harassment by powerful people in politics, media, corporate, Hollywood, etc. (If that wasn't obvious.)
So I was thinking about this today. It has been a year and a bit since the #metoo movement really started.
In that time there have actually been very few "outings" a... | Tychonaut | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Progressives being anti-electoral single issue voters because of Gaza are damaging their own interests.
I'm not going to put my own politics into this post and just try to explain why I think so.
There is the tired point that everyone brings up of a democrat non-vote or third-party vote is a vote for Trump beca... | if the democrats lose this election because people refused to vote for them over palestine, theoretically they will be less inclined to just blindly support israel then lest they lose key voters again
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I get your hypothetical, but won't it be more likely them continuing the same with Israel as the pressure put on ... | The most common argument is that while voting for the lesser of two evils will serve their interests *this* term, withholding their vote will be a political pressure that will create stronger and longer-lasting change.
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Aren’t their interests the Palestinians who would be hurt by a Trump presidency in both the sho... | 1g97dnv | CMV: Progressives being anti-electoral single issue voters because of Gaza are damaging their own interests. | I'm not going to put my own politics into this post and just try to explain why I think so.
There is the tired point that everyone brings up of a democrat non-vote or third-party vote is a vote for Trump because it's a 2 party system, but Progressives say that politicians should be someone who represent our interests ... | kdestroyer1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Makiyah Bryant's shooting was justified, and using it as an example of "police brutality" makes the BLM movement look bad.
Definitely going to get hate for saying this, but it's true. Makiyah Bryant was shot by a white cop. So the media is trying it's best to portray it as 'racism' and 'police brutality', though ... | You are absolutely right that it is a terrible example of police brutality. But I will argue that propping it up does little to make the BLM movement look bad.
Many will not look past another black girl shot dead by police and the rest of the nuance will be lost. Many will continue the believe the lies that her mother... | [removed]
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It's definitely the consensus among most reasonable people.
Reasonable people aren't the ones rioting though.
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[deleted] | n47165 | CMV: Makiyah Bryant's shooting was justified, and using it as an example of "police brutality" makes the BLM movement look bad. | Definitely going to get hate for saying this, but it's true. Makiyah Bryant was shot by a white cop. So the media is trying it's best to portray it as 'racism' and 'police brutality', though I don't understand why. Really looking towards getting my mind changed (hopefully).
I feel bad that a young girl was shot and ki... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Believing in God makes no sense.
A few clarifications before I start.
First of all, \*\*I have no problems with religion, or religious people\*\*. Religion has proven benefits, and if it makes people feel better, great for them! I don't understand it, because having an old man in the sky that loves you feels li... | Theologically speaking: Abrahamic religions share the idea that to some extent, God is unknowable, and not like a human. Therefore questions like: Isn't God a liar? Why does God let bad things happen? Why does the Universe exist? Isn't God selfish in asking to be worshiped? Share the erroneous premise that God is simil... | Wow that's a super long post.
God and religion were invented to explain things people couldnt explain. The more science explains, the less relevant God is.
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Science is like trying to figure out how the rules of a video game work from the inside. Testing the physics, messing around with all the objects etc.
Rel... | ghjzg2 | CMV: Believing in God makes no sense. | A few clarifications before I start.
First of all, \*\*I have no problems with religion, or religious people\*\*. Religion has proven benefits, and if it makes people feel better, great for them! I don't understand it, because having an old man in the sky that loves you feels like an imaginary friend, and I thought t... | IronBatSpiderHulk | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Ethics as justification for vegetarianism/veganism is a form of atrocity olympics
**Preliminary Warning: I‘m completely ok with these kinds of dietary restrictions for religious and/or environmental reasons. I just feel ethics does not play into this.**
Vegan extremists often criticize omnivores for supposedly n... | One of the primary ethical concerns some vegetarians and vegans cite is environmental.
Growing food for animals that are then butchered for meat is far more resource intensive than just eating the food one grows.
Production of meat also risks disease crossovers. Many pandemics have been caused by a disease transmitt... | Plants don't feel pain. They don't have nervous systems or brains. And in a lot of cases you're eating the fruit of the plant not the plant itself. If you eat an apple then the apple tree is still in tact.
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!delta for talking about fruits which are supposed to be eaten, but there’s still the issue of us eating roo... | n45eq9 | CMV: Ethics as justification for vegetarianism/veganism is a form of atrocity olympics | **Preliminary Warning: I‘m completely ok with these kinds of dietary restrictions for religious and/or environmental reasons. I just feel ethics does not play into this.**
Vegan extremists often criticize omnivores for supposedly not having morals. Look at the cute pig! Don’t you wish you didn’t brutally murder it wit... | Cacotopianist | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Ethics as justification for vegetarianism/veganism is a form of atrocity olympics
**Preliminary Warning: I‘m completely ok with these kinds of dietary restrictions for religious and/or environmental reasons. I just feel ethics does not play into this.**
Vegan extremists often criticize omnivores for supposedly n... | Even if plants did feel pain, humans still need to eat them to survive. If we’re using an ethical baseline “reduce harm to others unless doing so will cause harm to you” instead of “reduce harm to others with no regard for your own well-being” (and that is the baseline we use for inter-human ethics, e.g. killing in sel... | The source you linked does not mean that plants feel pain. Pain serves a biological function in animals—we can do things to avoid pain. It wouldn’t make sense for plants to have pain. One study about plants emitting ultrasonic frequencies does not necessarily mean plants experience pain. On the other hand, we know for ... | n45eq9 | CMV: Ethics as justification for vegetarianism/veganism is a form of atrocity olympics | **Preliminary Warning: I‘m completely ok with these kinds of dietary restrictions for religious and/or environmental reasons. I just feel ethics does not play into this.**
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CMV: Profiling is a natural instinct and saves lives
[https://www.reddit.com/r/WinStupidPrizes/comments/pg64af/thief\_doesnt\_plan\_the\_theft\_well/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/WinStupidPrizes/comments/pg64af/thief_doesnt_plan_the_theft_well/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web... | This is not what profiling is. This is someone recognising sketchy behaviour and acting as they were trained to do.
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That is profiling.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/profiling#:~:text=%3A%20the%20act%20or%20process%20of,characteristics%20or%20behavior%20racial%20profiling
>This is someone recognisin... | How does one constantly and actively signal that they are not a threat?
Should people who fit certain profiles constantly walk around with their hands raised shouting 'I have no ill intentions!!'
You give an example in which profiling has worked. Do you need to be directed to the hundreds of videos showing police pro... | pgf67y | CMV: Profiling is a natural instinct and saves lives | [https://www.reddit.com/r/WinStupidPrizes/comments/pg64af/thief\_doesnt\_plan\_the\_theft\_well/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/WinStupidPrizes/comments/pg64af/thief_doesnt_plan_the_theft_well/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
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In the linked video, a man co... | SkyrimWithdrawal | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The left is dying and will eventually vanish altogether from the political landscape
Currently in the world we see the emergence of two poles. On the one hand there is the liberal center (Democratic Party, La République En Marche, Pakatan Harapan, Indian National Congress etc.). On the other there is the populist... | In my country (Canada), we have been sliding farther and farther left for decades. We often elect conservative governments, but that’s mainly because the left is split across multiple parties.
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CMV: If you break into someone's home, you forfeit your right to live.
First, I should probably say I'm in the U.S., and whole heartedly believe in the right to bear arms, and the right to defend yourself, your family, and your property.
I read a story about a guy that is serving a life sentence for killing 2 people ... | if that man in that case knew the teenagers he killed were going to be there, and he chose to shoot them fatally instead of setting up cctv to catch their faces and/or contacting law enforcement, that was premeditated murder.
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CMV: If you break into someone's home, you forfeit your right to live.
First, I should probably say I'm in the U.S., and whole heartedly believe in the right to bear arms, and the right to defend yourself, your family, and your property.
I read a story about a guy that is serving a life sentence for killing 2 people ... | if that man in that case knew the teenagers he killed were going to be there, and he chose to shoot them fatally instead of setting up cctv to catch their faces and/or contacting law enforcement, that was premeditated murder.
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CMV: Free Market vs. Regulation or Central Planning is not the Most Important Difference Between Capitalism and Socialism
I know terms as broad and contentious as "Capitalism" and "Socialism" don't have a single definition, but they seem to orbit consistent ideas.
* **Libertarian Capitalism** is the idea that the mar... | Socialism has never been controlled democratically, and a definition that doesn't apply to any real life example of the thing it's supposed to define is a useless definition.
Since socialism is a word that describes systems that have already existed, you can't really assign to it a definition that doesn't, at all, fit... | >Free Market vs. Regulation or Central Planning is not the Most Important Difference Between Capitalism and Socialism
Who has argued that it is? The primary distinction is in how the means of production are distributed.
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Is your contention that a large swath of people don't think of government regulation as "soci... | 1g8ji1d | CMV: Free Market vs. Regulation or Central Planning is not the Most Important Difference Between Capitalism and Socialism | I know terms as broad and contentious as "Capitalism" and "Socialism" don't have a single definition, but they seem to orbit consistent ideas.
* **Libertarian Capitalism** is the idea that the market should be free of all or almost all state regulation.
It is often said that when regulation is put into the market, th... | TheVioletBarry | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: It is realistically impossible for me to ever have sex
I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have ... | A lot of this post is harsh, but I frankly think you might need it...
1. Have you tried the malefashionadvice sub? Do you have friends that can help? Do you know any guys that are stylish? Do you have female friends that would go shopping with you? You can massively improve your style on the cheap with some effort and... | > I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes.
Hey look, a learnable skill!
> I am socially awkward
Hey look, a learnable skill!
> I am 22 so I am beyond recovery, I am too old for most opportunities to learn how to socialize
Wait what? Dude. Go work at a summer camp, or take up ballroom dance, or tr... | 6zk58j | CMV: It is realistically impossible for me to ever have sex | I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have enough money for a stylist so I am always going to look bad.
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I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have ... | > I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes.
Hey look, a learnable skill!
> I am socially awkward
Hey look, a learnable skill!
> I am 22 so I am beyond recovery, I am too old for most opportunities to learn how to socialize
Wait what? Dude. Go work at a summer camp, or take up ballroom dance, or tr... | You're focusing on sex too much and that's going to hinder your chances of having it.
You need to work on yourself and focus on starting platonic relationships with females first... whether its through work or hobbies or w/e. Don't set your standards too high and be patient. The more platonic relationships you have wi... | 6zk58j | CMV: It is realistically impossible for me to ever have sex | I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have enough money for a stylist so I am always going to look bad.
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I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have ... | > I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes.
Hey look, a learnable skill!
> I am socially awkward
Hey look, a learnable skill!
> I am 22 so I am beyond recovery, I am too old for most opportunities to learn how to socialize
Wait what? Dude. Go work at a summer camp, or take up ballroom dance, or tr... | You're focusing on sex too much and that's going to hinder your chances of having it.
You need to work on yourself and focus on starting platonic relationships with females first... whether its through work or hobbies or w/e. Don't set your standards too high and be patient. The more platonic relationships you have wi... | 6zk58j | CMV: It is realistically impossible for me to ever have sex | I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have enough money for a stylist so I am always going to look bad.
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CMV: It is realistically impossible for me to ever have sex
I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have ... | > I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes.
Hey look, a learnable skill!
> I am socially awkward
Hey look, a learnable skill!
> I am 22 so I am beyond recovery, I am too old for most opportunities to learn how to socialize
Wait what? Dude. Go work at a summer camp, or take up ballroom dance, or tr... | >I have divergent political beliefs which will alienate all potential partners
Trust me, if nazis can get girlfriends then so can you. There are plenty of women with all types of political views.
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Nazis have a larger more established community so it is easier for them.
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See, I was assuming you were an alt-ri... | 6zk58j | CMV: It is realistically impossible for me to ever have sex | I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have enough money for a stylist so I am always going to look bad.
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CMV: It is realistically impossible for me to ever have sex
I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have ... | >I have divergent political beliefs which will alienate all potential partners
Trust me, if nazis can get girlfriends then so can you. There are plenty of women with all types of political views.
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> Ok, putting sex aside for a moment, what are your values? Sex is one aspect of sociability, and if you want to be more social (which tends to have the side effect of sex), you can definitely be that!
>
I consider productivity to be very important and think work is very important, I want to be an ent... | 6zk58j | CMV: It is realistically impossible for me to ever have sex | I do not believe that I can realistically ever hope to have sex as defined as consensual sex, without payment, and with a woman. I believe this is the case because of a few reasons:
1. I have a bad fashion sense and cannot choose good clothes. I do not have enough money for a stylist so I am always going to look bad.
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CMV: Procreate is for artists with no real skill
It may sound very shitty of me to say this, but as a traditional artist who has been toiling for years to get the skill level to draw a proper circle (for example), seeing someone just make a squiggly ass circle and then just use the software to turn it into a proper on... | You could make the same argument for a compass.
Or a jar lid, or cup.
Or an eraser.
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It's not just perfect circles though, also usually art schools (at least the one I went to) ask you to practice drawing free hand shapes rather then using help.
Along with that the fact that on procreate you could (for example... | I feel art is more about what it looks like than how its made, call me crazy.
---
I do agree with that, but if a trained artist who puts in 9 hrs of work to create an artwork is bested by an amateur who uses the handicap of a software to make the same work in higher quality in 2 hrs, the work lacks soul (I feel).
--... | gh9r38 | CMV: Procreate is for artists with no real skill | It may sound very shitty of me to say this, but as a traditional artist who has been toiling for years to get the skill level to draw a proper circle (for example), seeing someone just make a squiggly ass circle and then just use the software to turn it into a proper one really feels like it's just for people who have ... | themarine111 | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: Reddit is overly concerned with karma
It's worth noting I’ve only been a user here for about 2 years, so it's likely to have already been touched upon, or maybe this is an unfair representation of the site.
I have noticed that a lot of Reddit is just iterations of the themes “bad people getting punished”. [r/Jus... | By “Reddit” do you mean the company or the community as a whole? Because if you mean the latter, you’re including a large swath of communities in a single generalization. And based on the communities you listed, I think you may be suffering from selection bias, because there are plenty of subs where people don’t care a... | Karma gives attention and attention gives karma. The people and things that don't care about or are not good at getting karma don't get your attention and so you only see the karma whores. That's the system and it's good enough to entertain people enough to get them to pay attention to advertisements. In that narrow mi... | n3ge8v | cmv: Reddit is overly concerned with karma | It's worth noting I’ve only been a user here for about 2 years, so it's likely to have already been touched upon, or maybe this is an unfair representation of the site.
I have noticed that a lot of Reddit is just iterations of the themes “bad people getting punished”. [r/JusticeServed](https://www.reddit.com/r/Justice... | jackoffalldays | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Amazon One palm scanning payment method is undeniably conditioning for the mark of the beast described in Revelation 13:16-17
I was shocked when I heard about the "Amazon One" palm scanning payment system that they were installing at a "Whole Foods" Super market in Seattle. I heard about it from this [YouTube... | The mark would seem like a redundant step backwards. What's the point of having a mark if Amazon can already identify you without one? That's like saying that cell phones were a precursor to widespread ham radio use - they weren't, they just stepped right over it.
---
Well, the thing is that the mark is supposed to b... | The premise of your claim seems to be that Amazon are some kind of cult, or perhaps in a league with a cult. Is this what you're claiming?
---
No, I don't believe Amazon is any type of cult. I just believe that they are a business out to make money. I just think that the mark of the beast is the inevitability of the ... | n3rymg | CMV: The Amazon One palm scanning payment method is undeniably conditioning for the mark of the beast described in Revelation 13:16-17 | I was shocked when I heard about the "Amazon One" palm scanning payment system that they were installing at a "Whole Foods" Super market in Seattle. I heard about it from this [YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvKXuCxOy-4&t=5s&ab_channel=AVoiceInTheDesert) which made me think about how the "Amazon One" pa... | No_Work_6000 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Straight Passing Bi Men Have No Legitimate Reasons To Not Disclose Their Sexual Orientation To Women They Want To Date
As I stated in my title I don’t believe straight passing bisexual men have legitimate reasons to hide their sexual orientation from women they want to date. Their dating options with women being ... | If this is a dealbreaker for you, then why arent't *you* openly stating right from the get go that you're not interested in bi men?
---
In the past it had happened to me three times. When dating I did ask and bi men still lied. I took a year break from dating. Before I started dating again I met my husband but it’s s... | At the end of the day it's none of your business unless they make it your business.
---
Horseshit. It’s straight up deceptive not to disclose to a woman you also sleep with men.
That’s a deal breaker for like 90% of women.
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But it's still a part of who they are. They have the right not to disclose it for many ... | 1k31s7h | CMV: Straight Passing Bi Men Have No Legitimate Reasons To Not Disclose Their Sexual Orientation To Women They Want To Date | As I stated in my title I don’t believe straight passing bisexual men have legitimate reasons to hide their sexual orientation from women they want to date. Their dating options with women being greatly reduced, straight women being the majority, is a shitty reason.
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CMV: We should just let them build the wall
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No it's not.
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Background: I would put myself as a moderate Democrat, and I don't have a very high opinion on Trump, so understand my views will be colored by that. However, despite being anti-Trump, I am starting to feel like we should just build the wall. I happened to see a post from r/... | The wall isn't going to cost $5 billion. Even the [Trump administration's propaganda machine](https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trumps-border-wall-how-much-it-will-actually-cost-according-to-a-statistician) recognizes it'll cost more than that, and that $25 billion pricetag isn't including the cost of eminent domain, let... | >the estimated cost is $5 billion,
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CMV: If health care is a human right then unhealthy choices are a societal wrong. This contradicts individual liberty.
For context, I am a liberal in the US. I'm for single payer healthcare because I think it addresses how un-free the health care market is due to information asymmetry. I'm not convinced of the positio... | Your argument only makes sense if spending government money is wrong. Money is meant to be spent, so it is not wrong to do so.
For example, many elements of aviation in the USA are government run. Tax money pays the wages of air-traffic controllers, custom agents, and so on. So, if you take a flight, you are contribut... | Can you explain why you believe it is true that "If health care is a human right then unhealthy choices are a societal wrong"? You don't seem to justify this position anywhere in your post.
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CMV: Mark Zuckerburg isn’t an alien or a robot, he’s mildly autistic!
Think about it. The classic fluctuations in voice when excited, but a underlying monotone voice. He’s smart enough to make a wide-ranging social network that activates brain triggers and may invoke anxiety to conform, but can’t look at these same h... | I've always viewed the alien/robot Zuckerberg comments as memes, not as actual beliefs.
Considering society's more accepting view of autism spectrum disorders, it seems it my be in Zuck's benefit of coming out as autistic. Why hasn't he been public about it?
---
Well, he does run *facebook*, home of Anti-vaxxers, Ka... | None of this proves your point. Show me a blood sample with DNA testing corroborate by multiple independent experts if you want me to believe any of it.
---
They are not supposed to change your view. You’re supposed to change theirs.
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I'm working with what I got here! How would you argue that Zuck is a robot? | e9frjt | CMV: Mark Zuckerburg isn’t an alien or a robot, he’s mildly autistic! | Think about it. The classic fluctuations in voice when excited, but a underlying monotone voice. He’s smart enough to make a wide-ranging social network that activates brain triggers and may invoke anxiety to conform, but can’t look at these same human behaviors and social cues that run the platform aside from a scien... | SugarCookieBear | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Using the N-Word in the right context is okay.
Hello Everyone
I personally think that if it's in the right context it's perfectly okay to use the N-Word (Ni***r). I saw a couple of Videos about the whole Pewdiepie situation (He said the N-Word on stream) and everyone just said: "He said the N-Word". Now I get th... | Isn't using the N-word as an insult like Pewdiepie did, undeniably the wrong context? If it is the right context, why? If it's the wrong context, why is the negative reaction "stupid"?
What would you consider to be an acceptable context for the use of the n-word?
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Yes but when someone talks about him saying it, i... | 1. Are you white? 2. It was said in a derogatory manner 3. PewDiePie needs a slap
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1. What does my color have to do with it?
2. I know and I think that is not okay.
3. Yeah he was an Idiot
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> What does my color have to do with it?
It's an important part of the context.
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If you're a racist
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No. | 70fo2q | CMV: Using the N-Word in the right context is okay. | Hello Everyone
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CMV: If you remove Trump’s general behavior as a person from being a factor in his presidency, he would win re-election in a landslide.
This is not and endorsement of Trump. It’s more of my opinion of the human condition especially when it comes to general politics.
It’s already been discussed how the easiest way to ... | He didn’t even win the popular vote the first time. Those who doggedly support him will do so no matter what at this point, but his approval rating isn’t great at this point.
The first time wasn’t a landslide, a second time wouldn’t be one either.
---
I don’t anticipate a landslide, and my original post is obviously... | How much can one remove personality from foreign affairs? Negotiation happens as much as it does between individuals as it does between states.
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There’s level of “behind closed doors” policy when it comes to world leaders. My belief is that there can be buffoonish leaders out there who can contain it to some exten... | e9vsqj | CMV: If you remove Trump’s general behavior as a person from being a factor in his presidency, he would win re-election in a landslide. | This is not and endorsement of Trump. It’s more of my opinion of the human condition especially when it comes to general politics.
It’s already been discussed how the easiest way to re-election is a good economy. It doesn’t matter how it came to be or even how the future economy looks. If the economy is doing good lea... | jfi224 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Gay men are unironically and statistically the best at having relationships
And this is coming from a straight man. Just statistically speaking, gay guys beat out straight and lesbian couples in some pretty big ways. They have the lowest rates of domestic violence. They have the lowest rates of divorce. They make... | I’m all for this being true, but do you have statistics on this opinion?
---
Here are some sources!
[https://www.metroweekly.com/2020/12/lesbians-much-more-likely-to-divorce-than-gay-men-according-to-data/](https://www.metroweekly.com/2020/12/lesbians-much-more-likely-to-divorce-than-gay-men-according-to-data/)
[ht... | [Nope.](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648#:~:text=But%20the%20conclusions%20of%20another,their%20partner%2C%22%20he%20says)
---
Lesbian couples have the highest. Gay couples have the lowest. Combining them under the umbrella of “same sex” you lose this insight
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Did you read the article? | 1k4y6qm | CMV: Gay men are unironically and statistically the best at having relationships | And this is coming from a straight man. Just statistically speaking, gay guys beat out straight and lesbian couples in some pretty big ways. They have the lowest rates of domestic violence. They have the lowest rates of divorce. They make the highest family incomes. I'm sure I there are other numbers out there but I ca... | Middle-Task-6045 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: M4A is no longer an economically valid alternative since we are in a recession
The idea of M4A is that it would be cheaper for consumers but that has implications. I understand the numbers if you are moving to a socialist system the United States which currently spends about 17% of its GDP on health care might be... | I think the problem with your view is not that it's no longer economically valid, but that it was ever economically valid to begin with.
There has never been a credible explanation by M4A advocates on how the transition will be cheaper for most people while also providing viable cost projections. The best case, rosy... | It's an investment. Healthy populations are more productive. If you allow more people to get healthy, they will generate more revenue for you.
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It's an investment with money that we don't have though is the point I'm making. Currently we're at 14% unemployment which is high. 3% drop in GDP would probably increase ... | ggmy7x | CMV: M4A is no longer an economically valid alternative since we are in a recession | The idea of M4A is that it would be cheaper for consumers but that has implications. I understand the numbers if you are moving to a socialist system the United States which currently spends about 17% of its GDP on health care might be able to get that number down to about 14% by cutting out insurance agents etc. I agr... | Laniekea | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Claiming that 'men are trash' is counter productive to gender equality
I am not saying in general men don't commit more crimes. I just think lumping all men together like this is unnecessarily negative and actually holds society back.
If you want, read this argument I just had and ignore the terrible grammar: h... | I'm a committed feminist, and I would not say things like this. So I agree with your general sense that this is not a very nice thing to say.
But in what way do you mean that it's counter-productive? Do you mean that there are many people who *would* actively work towards some gender-related material goal, but who do... | It’s exaggeration and hyperbole.
It’s like when people say: “I would literally die without coffee”. They wouldn’t literally die without coffee. But we all know what they mean. You don’t need to to gon a tangent on how they actually mean figuratively.
It’s the same here. What they mean is: “men in my life are trash”.... | acw4be | CMV: Claiming that 'men are trash' is counter productive to gender equality | I am not saying in general men don't commit more crimes. I just think lumping all men together like this is unnecessarily negative and actually holds society back.
If you want, read this argument I just had and ignore the terrible grammar: https://imgur.com/gallery/6qVLEvO
What do you think we should reconsider abou... | SeveralMannys | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The purpose of all life is to generate suffering
I am using floatation tanks for a while now as an assistance to my meditation practice and during one of the longer sessions (5 hours) I was told by some "entity" that it created the world with the sole purpose of generating suffering in as many forms of as possibl... | Death ends suffering. A system designed to maximize suffering would not include such an easy out.
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>i.e. if I would have to create a world which would generate the most amount of suffering in as many forms as possib... | 702f4h | CMV: The purpose of all life is to generate suffering | I am using floatation tanks for a while now as an assistance to my meditation practice and during one of the longer sessions (5 hours) I was told by some "entity" that it created the world with the sole purpose of generating suffering in as many forms of as possible (death, pain, confusion, anger, etc). The good moment... | MrgoodlifeTony | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The purpose of all life is to generate suffering
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>during one of the longer sessions (5 hours) I was told by some "entity" that it... | While suffering in some form is part of existence, it’s not the **purpose** of existence. The only way for there to be a purpose would be if there was some outside direction, which we can’t demonstrate.
>i.e. if I would have to create a world which would generate the most amount of suffering in as many forms as possib... | 702f4h | CMV: The purpose of all life is to generate suffering | I am using floatation tanks for a while now as an assistance to my meditation practice and during one of the longer sessions (5 hours) I was told by some "entity" that it created the world with the sole purpose of generating suffering in as many forms of as possible (death, pain, confusion, anger, etc). The good moment... | MrgoodlifeTony | 8 | 8 | [
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CMV: The purpose of all life is to generate suffering
I am using floatation tanks for a while now as an assistance to my meditation practice and during one of the longer sessions (5 hours) I was told by some "entity" that it created the world with the sole purpose of generating suffering in as many forms of as possibl... | Saying that life has a purpose is like saying that a mountain has a purpose. Which is nonsense. A mountain has no purpose, a mountain is simply the result of thousands of years of geology, which itself only has a *cause*, not a *purpose*.
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>i.e. if I would have to create a world which would generate the most amount of suffering in as many forms as possib... | 702f4h | CMV: The purpose of all life is to generate suffering | I am using floatation tanks for a while now as an assistance to my meditation practice and during one of the longer sessions (5 hours) I was told by some "entity" that it created the world with the sole purpose of generating suffering in as many forms of as possible (death, pain, confusion, anger, etc). The good moment... | MrgoodlifeTony | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: The purpose of all life is to generate suffering
I am using floatation tanks for a while now as an assistance to my meditation practice and during one of the longer sessions (5 hours) I was told by some "entity" that it created the world with the sole purpose of generating suffering in as many forms of as possibl... | Saying that life has a purpose is like saying that a mountain has a purpose. Which is nonsense. A mountain has no purpose, a mountain is simply the result of thousands of years of geology, which itself only has a *cause*, not a *purpose*.
>during one of the longer sessions (5 hours) I was told by some "entity" that it... | While suffering in some form is part of existence, it’s not the **purpose** of existence. The only way for there to be a purpose would be if there was some outside direction, which we can’t demonstrate.
>i.e. if I would have to create a world which would generate the most amount of suffering in as many forms as possib... | 702f4h | CMV: The purpose of all life is to generate suffering | I am using floatation tanks for a while now as an assistance to my meditation practice and during one of the longer sessions (5 hours) I was told by some "entity" that it created the world with the sole purpose of generating suffering in as many forms of as possible (death, pain, confusion, anger, etc). The good moment... | MrgoodlifeTony | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's not ok to sacrifice our nation's sobriety to win elections
I'm going to take a few lines to explain what my post is not about:
First, my post isn't about arguing that the 2016 election was swayed by foreign propaganda; that is not something I'm willing to change my view on.
Second, I'm not seeking t... | Wow. Well, I think propaganda and conspiracy theories are two different things. If we just focus on propaganda and define that as a method to persuade people using misleading information, I think this becomes an argument about the ends justifying the means. Climate change is real. If I convince people to vote for candi... | I don't know if I disagree with you as a basic principle, but I think you're not quite fully expressing the process here. These sorts of leaders try to degrade the critical thinking of citizens as a way of maintaining control, continuously and on basically all levels. Winning elections are specific events within that s... | 1g7lpnz | CMV: It's not ok to sacrifice our nation's sobriety to win elections |
I'm going to take a few lines to explain what my post is not about:
First, my post isn't about arguing that the 2016 election was swayed by foreign propaganda; that is not something I'm willing to change my view on.
Second, I'm not seeking to discuss whether the use of propaganda for political gain has been go... | Davngr | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: "It's not my job to educate you" is not an effective way to get allies
I understand people suffer prejudice and get killed because of it and this is our problem as a society to fix. We should all be worried about racism, sexism, lgbtphobia and so on. And I know it's tiring to keep answering stupid questions somet... | Let’s say there’s something about your life that you know is a simple, immutable fact. Like, you live on Main Street. This is something you just know, you don’t need to double-check, you don’t need anyone else to confirm, it’s self-evident.
Now imagine you meet someone who doesn’t believe you when you say you live on... | Who are you arguing against. I don't believe ~~anything~~ anyone* on earth believes "It's not my job to educate you" IS an effective way to get allies.
---
There are many people who think this. I've heard it so many times as a response to "what do you want to change?"
---
In that context, "its not my job" means "i ... | jlo5pi | CMV: "It's not my job to educate you" is not an effective way to get allies | I understand people suffer prejudice and get killed because of it and this is our problem as a society to fix. We should all be worried about racism, sexism, lgbtphobia and so on. And I know it's tiring to keep answering stupid questions sometimes. I know it sometimes seems like people don't even care about the answer.... | cocada_ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: we aren’t derived to derive pleasure from having children, we are just programmed to derive pleasure from sex and children are the consequence
Just think about it. If we were evolutionarily programmed to mentally desire children, there would have been no drop off in fertility since the introduction of the birth c... | There’s a difference between hedonic pleasure and eudemonic happiness.
The former is what you get from sex, and the latter is more likely (though not guaranteed) from having children. There is a very different depth of joy, love, satisfaction, and meaningful pleasure from watching your children achieve and grow into ... | Your point of view ignores the unbridled joy of a parent or grandparent seeing their kid/grandkid become a well adjusted member of society who is able to sustain themselves.
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CMV: Streetcars and LRTs that share the road with cars are pretty much large buses, and therefore don't pose a strong incentive over cars. If a suburb is in the midst of transforming into a metropolis, LRT and streetcar that share the road are horrible ideas.
Streetcars and LRTs that share the road with cars should no... | I live in Melbourne Australia and the light rails (we call them trams) are one of the best features of the city and I think they're great.
For one, I think they're far superior to busses because they are far more cleaner, can take more people, and a far more reliable. In the CBD of Melbourne it is nothing but trams w... | A nice suit and a hessian sack fulfill the same practical purposes as clothing in protecting and warming people, but few people wear sacks to clothe themselves.
As Margaret Thatcher may have said any man over 26 travelling on a bus can count himself a failure.
Trams do not come with such negative social connotations.... | 8isok2 | CMV: Streetcars and LRTs that share the road with cars are pretty much large buses, and therefore don't pose a strong incentive over cars. If a suburb is in the midst of transforming into a metropolis, LRT and streetcar that share the road are horrible ideas. | Streetcars and LRTs that share the road with cars should not be considered "higher-order transit" since they are pretty much large buses, and therefore don't pose a strong incentive over cars.
In my view the only form of true higher order transit in an urban environment is the subway or metro. Because they travel unde... | ijrjtpk | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: State-sponsored media is the best solution for objective journalism.
Modern journalism is facing a crisis. [Since the 90s](http://www.people-press.org/2010/09/12/section-5-news-media-credibility/) credibility ratings for major news networks in the U.S. have been falling rapidly. Having an impartial and objecti... | What about the [fairness doctrine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine), which had a pretty good track record of promoting objectivity in journalism before it was dismantled by the Reagan administration? It is no accident that the loss of credibility you describe in the 90s, as well as the rise of non-r... | Why are the credibility ratings falling though? If the credibility ratings are falling not because of actual failures in reporting quality; but simply because some attack the media as a tactic to discredit facts they do not like, then the same would apply to a state run source. If the people are unable to recognize o... | clomrr | CMV: State-sponsored media is the best solution for objective journalism. |
Modern journalism is facing a crisis. [Since the 90s](http://www.people-press.org/2010/09/12/section-5-news-media-credibility/) credibility ratings for major news networks in the U.S. have been falling rapidly. Having an impartial and objective news is vitally important for a democracy as in an age of increasingly ... | AnarchyViking | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If Christianity is true, and children go to Heaven, there is no logical reason for us to not kill our children.
This argument depends on the following premises: God, heaven, hell exist. Our actions have some determination on which place we go to. And that God allows babies/children (maybe only the baptized, depen... | A few problems:
1. According to God one ought not sin. Killing is a sin. There simply are no "do what God wants" who can kill Christian.
2. The God you imagine is one we have to presume to be a dumbfuck, and God is not a dumbfuck for the christian. You have to believe that more good comes to gods world by sinning... | [deleted]
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Christianity makes no mention of reincarnation though. God supposedly judges us for our own actions yes? So that means he would not send the child to hell for the parent's sin.
Besides, if what you are saying is true then that means every child who died for any reason (accident, sickness, SIDS, etc) wo... | jliz9b | CMV: If Christianity is true, and children go to Heaven, there is no logical reason for us to not kill our children. | This argument depends on the following premises: God, heaven, hell exist. Our actions have some determination on which place we go to. And that God allows babies/children (maybe only the baptized, depending on who you ask) who die into Heaven.
These above premise's are simply assumed for the following argument. Don't ... | Raspint | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Police officers who are found guilty of committing a crime should receive twice the penalty a civilian would incur.
This thought was inspired by some recent string of twitter posts I've read regarding corruption amongst the police force in my city; and I can't tell if it's getting more common or just being report... | That's not a good idea cause laws are supposed to be applied to all citizens equally regardless of occupation. What your advocating is something like this. A doctor and an attorney are guilty of rape and the law says that the doctor should serve 10 years in prison while the attorney will only serve 20 years. Obviously ... | A police officer can commit a crime and it have nothing to do with corruption within the department, or even mean that there is corruption at that department.
How would a solo officer getting, for example, a DUI off duty help fight corruption within the department if there is twice the penalty?
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You make a goo... | 8ittw5 | CMV: Police officers who are found guilty of committing a crime should receive twice the penalty a civilian would incur. | This thought was inspired by some recent string of twitter posts I've read regarding corruption amongst the police force in my city; and I can't tell if it's getting more common or just being reported more frequently. Personally, I think would help deter corruption. Whether they're off-duty or not. As I'm writing this ... | TheyCallMePimpSauce | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I do not believe that we are living in, statistically, the most peaceful era in human history, and information like this is borderline propaganda research. In fact, I believe it is one of the most turbulent.
I should have clarified that this point that I am trying to convey mostly only applies to America. I was i... | chaotic elections don't result in continental war, as they did in Europe all the way up until... 1914? that's a big improvement. mass shootings, while tragic, are a drop in the bucket in terms of national/global peace.
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!delta
I agree with you on this, but as I said, of course there were time periods (such as bef... | A: This post is american-centric
B: were are very close to war, this peace unsustainable.
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I should have clarified that this post is centered on American politics.
But I am not exactly sure what your point for B is, being on the brink of war, (when America is already in a war), suggests that we are not a... | clmzol | CMV: I do not believe that we are living in, statistically, the most peaceful era in human history, and information like this is borderline propaganda research. In fact, I believe it is one of the most turbulent. | I should have clarified that this point that I am trying to convey mostly only applies to America. I was ignorant in not doing that. I apologize.
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How exactly is this the most peaceful era where there are more mass shootings happening now than at any other point in history?
Not trying to sound ignorant or so... | Chumilly | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Monotheism was the biggest jump in social progress ever in the history of Mankind
So basically my reasoning is that monotheistic religions introduced concepts relevant till today that didn't really exist before.
For example that every person is equal and has to follow the same laws.
Before Monotheism reli... | Well, given that the two most populous countries in the world today largely still subscribe to religions which are polytheistic in nature and many civilisations in history had their golden ages during periods where they followed polytheistic beliefs, your premise is decidedly weak and poorly evidence by history, respec... | The Ancient Romans were polytheistic, yet also one of the most legalistic societies of the ancient world. The Greek and Roman Stoics, among other ancient philosophic schools, developed vast, universal moral teachings that are still believed in and studied today, while believing in a multitude of gods ( or even none at ... | jljzyw | CMV: Monotheism was the biggest jump in social progress ever in the history of Mankind | So basically my reasoning is that monotheistic religions introduced concepts relevant till today that didn't really exist before.
For example that every person is equal and has to follow the same laws.
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CMV: In the three-door problem, there is no point in switching doors.
The problem goes like this. There are three doors, 2 have goats behind them the third has a million dollars. You start by choosing a door, then the owner reveals one of the goats. You have the options to switch or not. The answer goes that you shoul... | Let's say you pick Goat A. The host, knowing which of the doors contain goats, opens the door in front of Goat B. Switching then gives you the money.
Let's say you pick Goat B. The host, knowing which of the doors contain goats, opens the door in front of Goat A. Switching then gives you the money.
Let's say you pi... | You have a 2/3 chance to pick a goat, by switching that becomes a 2/3 to pick the money.
No switch:
Goat: 2/3
Money: 1/3
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Intial goat 2/3 -> switch to money, money becomes 2/3
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Yeah but why does that switch occur
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The switch occurs because the... | clm9h6 | CMV: In the three-door problem, there is no point in switching doors. | The problem goes like this. There are three doors, 2 have goats behind them the third has a million dollars. You start by choosing a door, then the owner reveals one of the goats. You have the options to switch or not. The answer goes that you should switch because your original pick has a 1/3 chance of being the milli... | PygmySloth12 | 5 | 3 | [
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CMV: In the three-door problem, there is no point in switching doors.
The problem goes like this. There are three doors, 2 have goats behind them the third has a million dollars. You start by choosing a door, then the owner reveals one of the goats. You have the options to switch or not. The answer goes that you shoul... | Let's say you pick Goat A. The host, knowing which of the doors contain goats, opens the door in front of Goat B. Switching then gives you the money.
Let's say you pick Goat B. The host, knowing which of the doors contain goats, opens the door in front of Goat A. Switching then gives you the money.
Let's say you pi... | This is actually a really fun question. If you want you can prove it true by doing simulations with pen and paper. Have a friend pick a bunch of random numbers between 1 and 3. The number they pick is the door with a million dollars. Then you go through and make your 1st pick (without knowing what your friend picked) y... | clm9h6 | CMV: In the three-door problem, there is no point in switching doors. | The problem goes like this. There are three doors, 2 have goats behind them the third has a million dollars. You start by choosing a door, then the owner reveals one of the goats. You have the options to switch or not. The answer goes that you should switch because your original pick has a 1/3 chance of being the milli... | PygmySloth12 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Draft was Worse than Not being Able to Vote
The draft is worse than not being able to vote. One is not being able to have a say in political matters, the other is not having a say over your life, your sanity, and the lives of your brethren. One involves being marginalized, the other involves a psychological t... | A draft is exactly what is needed to prevent war. It forces armchair keyboard generals to stfu and stop electing warmongers and cheering on the destruction of countries far away while having no skin in the game. You want war, off to war you go. Lastly, a country quick to mobilize a draft is one less likely to be mess... | The thing is if you can't vote, you can't elect the politicians who are against the draft to get in and make things right. So to some degree, not being able to vote also indirectly results in you not having a say in your life.
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1) The draft was enacted when women had the right to vote(Vietnam).
2) No, it does not.... | lbgsq5 | CMV: The Draft was Worse than Not being Able to Vote | The draft is worse than not being able to vote. One is not being able to have a say in political matters, the other is not having a say over your life, your sanity, and the lives of your brethren. One involves being marginalized, the other involves a psychological torture none of us can imagine -- being forced to kill ... | Known_Throat | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The Draft was Worse than Not being Able to Vote
The draft is worse than not being able to vote. One is not being able to have a say in political matters, the other is not having a say over your life, your sanity, and the lives of your brethren. One involves being marginalized, the other involves a psychological t... | Obviously both of these things are horrible.
For you, being forced to go to war is worse than a lifetime of living how others dictate it. What is worse, momentary mortal danger or a lifetime of servitude? Neither option is appealing and not everyone would choose one or the other.
But why even compare the two if not ... | A draft is exactly what is needed to prevent war. It forces armchair keyboard generals to stfu and stop electing warmongers and cheering on the destruction of countries far away while having no skin in the game. You want war, off to war you go. Lastly, a country quick to mobilize a draft is one less likely to be mess... | lbgsq5 | CMV: The Draft was Worse than Not being Able to Vote | The draft is worse than not being able to vote. One is not being able to have a say in political matters, the other is not having a say over your life, your sanity, and the lives of your brethren. One involves being marginalized, the other involves a psychological torture none of us can imagine -- being forced to kill ... | Known_Throat | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Draft was Worse than Not being Able to Vote
The draft is worse than not being able to vote. One is not being able to have a say in political matters, the other is not having a say over your life, your sanity, and the lives of your brethren. One involves being marginalized, the other involves a psychological t... | It's not controversial to be against the draft, especially nowadays when the draft hasn't been a thing in the US for many decades.
Secondly, not every man was drafted. Every single woman was not allowed to vote. More people were affected by lack of suffrage than the draft.
Thirdly, why is this a competition? Do you ... | A draft is exactly what is needed to prevent war. It forces armchair keyboard generals to stfu and stop electing warmongers and cheering on the destruction of countries far away while having no skin in the game. You want war, off to war you go. Lastly, a country quick to mobilize a draft is one less likely to be mess... | lbgsq5 | CMV: The Draft was Worse than Not being Able to Vote | The draft is worse than not being able to vote. One is not being able to have a say in political matters, the other is not having a say over your life, your sanity, and the lives of your brethren. One involves being marginalized, the other involves a psychological torture none of us can imagine -- being forced to kill ... | Known_Throat | 7 | 6 | [
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CMV: The Draft was Worse than Not being Able to Vote
The draft is worse than not being able to vote. One is not being able to have a say in political matters, the other is not having a say over your life, your sanity, and the lives of your brethren. One involves being marginalized, the other involves a psychological t... | It's not controversial to be against the draft, especially nowadays when the draft hasn't been a thing in the US for many decades.
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Given that women got the vote before the draft was eliminated, this doesn't seem particularly significant
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How so? The po... | lbgsq5 | CMV: The Draft was Worse than Not being Able to Vote | The draft is worse than not being able to vote. One is not being able to have a say in political matters, the other is not having a say over your life, your sanity, and the lives of your brethren. One involves being marginalized, the other involves a psychological torture none of us can imagine -- being forced to kill ... | Known_Throat | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: Western culture is quickly moving away from the things that made it successful and desirable, largely due to a culture of effective self-censorship and social punishment for expressions of observed reality
And the decline isn't driven by politics or formal laws, but the social cost of saying or doing things.
I w... | What expressions of observed reality are you talking about, that people self-censor to avoid social punishment?
Usually people self-censor because they are conflicted internally. For instance, many people probably don't like the homeless situation in their cities, but don't talk about it because they've heard other pe... | What makes/made America great was freedom. But most people have no idea what freedom is. Freedom is simply the right to control yourself. An immoral, out of control people will eventually be controlled. It is why the communists attack Christ non stop. As through Him people did what was right and earned their freedom. O... | 1mzgu24 | CMV: Western culture is quickly moving away from the things that made it successful and desirable, largely due to a culture of effective self-censorship and social punishment for expressions of observed reality | And the decline isn't driven by politics or formal laws, but the social cost of saying or doing things.
I was not born in a western country. When growing up, I always learned that the success of America in business, economy and research is largely due to their freedom of speech and ability to call things as they are w... | PastaPandaSimon | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Pete Buttigieg is a weak choice for Secretary of Transportation
A tangential post on a different sub in which a bunch of people jumped on Ted Cruz for voting against Pete Buttigieg got me thinking, why do people think Pete Buttigieg is a good pick for Secretary of Transportation?
To preface, I voted Biden, I'm... | A cabinet secretary is there not to pore over the primary sources or conduct deep research of the various different possibilities for the department. The main thing they do is lead a bunch of people and spur them toward a certain goal.
For something like Transportation, where the department is basically controlled by... | He was chosen because he was gay. Not that being gay is a bad thing, but it shouldn’t be the deciding factor.
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Do you have any evidence to back this up, or are you just posting homophobic bullshit?
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Knew that word would be thrown out. Pete Buttigeg is in no way qualified to be the secretary of transportation,... | lbfsa6 | CMV: Pete Buttigieg is a weak choice for Secretary of Transportation | A tangential post on a different sub in which a bunch of people jumped on Ted Cruz for voting against Pete Buttigieg got me thinking, why do people think Pete Buttigieg is a good pick for Secretary of Transportation?
To preface, I voted Biden, I'm certainly left of the Democratic Party, and I have literally no objec... | dan2872 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is essentially no ethical difference between furry porn or other popular deviant kinks and loli hentai.
So, I think most people can agree that having sex with real children and animals is morally wrong. This is because both children and animals do not have the capacity to consent, and studies prove time and... | So if I express my desire to do a crime, such as thwack you. That would be wrong, correct?
Likewise, supporting pornography that depicts horrible deeds, is ethically stating your desire for that horrible deed. That in a hypothetical situation, you would derive pleasure from such an evil. So regardless of what actually... | Furries aren't animals, though. The reason why sex with animals is bad is because they can't consent. Aside from the fact that they don't have the required intelligence to do so, we own them. They have no control over their own lives. They are pets to us. Furries are anthropomorphized. They are adults with the required... | 1llia4k | CMV: There is essentially no ethical difference between furry porn or other popular deviant kinks and loli hentai. | So, I think most people can agree that having sex with real children and animals is morally wrong. This is because both children and animals do not have the capacity to consent, and studies prove time and time again that animals and children who experience sexual abuse are likely to have trauma symptoms.
However, when... | Upstairs-Insurance61 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: the 'standard' term of office of 4 to 6 years for elected officials is too long
The standard term length for presidents, senates, members of parliament around the world are usually between 4 and 6 years. In my opinion that's too long - a term of 2 to 3 years, or possibly even one year, would be better.
Shorter t... | On the contrary I think the terms aren't long enough. I think the 4 years is okay because it gives governments a chance for longer term policies to play out. You can't possibly evaluate a policy within a year, it usually takes that long for anything to pass as law.
Counter to a shorter term, I think we should get rid... | Another effect from short terms is just how much time the politician will spend running for reelection. With a short enough term, they might not stop at all. Not a good plan if we want them to scco.plish anything st all.
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That's another part of my argument which I didn't mention - politicians spend way too much ... | jlhf4x | CMV: the 'standard' term of office of 4 to 6 years for elected officials is too long | The standard term length for presidents, senates, members of parliament around the world are usually between 4 and 6 years. In my opinion that's too long - a term of 2 to 3 years, or possibly even one year, would be better.
Shorter term lengths would give the voters a chance to reevaluate government policies and, if n... | gallez | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There's nothing wrong with saying "all lives matter"
Ever since the BLM movement became a big thing this year I've seen people all over the place complaining that saying "all lives matter" is somehow wrong. I don't get it, it's a true statement, and a statement that acknowledges that all people are equal. How is ... | The saying itself is correct. All lives do matter, yes.
But making that **statement** as a response to the **reminder** that black lives matter *too* is tone-deaf, ignorant, and dismissive of the reality that the average black person's experience is not the same as the average person of another race's experience.
Aft... | I like the analogy that all houses matter. True, all houses do matter. But the house next door is on fire and requires emergency services to help correct the situation. However, why should the house that's on fire be the only house to receive emergency services since all houses are equally important?
The same applies ... | jlhopn | CMV: There's nothing wrong with saying "all lives matter" | Ever since the BLM movement became a big thing this year I've seen people all over the place complaining that saying "all lives matter" is somehow wrong. I don't get it, it's a true statement, and a statement that acknowledges that all people are equal. How is that not in line with statements against racism? To me "bla... | robbertzzz1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There's nothing wrong with saying "all lives matter"
Ever since the BLM movement became a big thing this year I've seen people all over the place complaining that saying "all lives matter" is somehow wrong. I don't get it, it's a true statement, and a statement that acknowledges that all people are equal. How is ... | I like the analogy that all houses matter. True, all houses do matter. But the house next door is on fire and requires emergency services to help correct the situation. However, why should the house that's on fire be the only house to receive emergency services since all houses are equally important?
The same applies ... | Imagine you are sitting at a table starving and everyone else there has food. They are piling up their plates and you have no food. So you look at everyone and say “I need food.” They stare back at you and say “ALL people need food.” You’re like “yeah okay, but you all have food and I have none. I need food.”
Then they... | jlhopn | CMV: There's nothing wrong with saying "all lives matter" | Ever since the BLM movement became a big thing this year I've seen people all over the place complaining that saying "all lives matter" is somehow wrong. I don't get it, it's a true statement, and a statement that acknowledges that all people are equal. How is that not in line with statements against racism? To me "bla... | robbertzzz1 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: People with left leaning political philosophies are far more outspoken than the majority of Americans
With the recent post on BusinessInsider.com article
https://www.businessinsider.com/home-depot-boycott-over-cofounder-bernie-marcus-donald-trump-donation-2019-7?utm_source=taboola
The founder of Home Depot who... | I think you'd be correct, there probably are more 'right wing believers in the world', however in the U.S. this is a slim margin: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political\_party\_strength\_in\_U.S.\_states](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_U.S._states)
>As of October 2017, [Gallup](https://en.... | > ... My point is when you look at twitter ...
Twitter doesn't represent the whole country, or all of the left. For example, I tend to be socially liberal, but I don't spend time on twitter.
Twitter is a business, so they will act to make the most money. The same is true of television, facebook and reddit. Confli... | cljiez | CMV: People with left leaning political philosophies are far more outspoken than the majority of Americans | With the recent post on BusinessInsider.com article
https://www.businessinsider.com/home-depot-boycott-over-cofounder-bernie-marcus-donald-trump-donation-2019-7?utm_source=taboola
The founder of Home Depot who is a outspoken defender of President Trump, was discovered to have donated a significant amount of money to... | Daryldye17 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's kind of a false idea the US is moving left because it doesn't really have much evidence in the polls.
The core beliefs of the US have remained relatively the same in the past 20-30 years. Sure, there are some exceptions like same-sex marriage, but other than that, when you look at many issues, there isn't re... | The youth of America is overwhelmingly in favor of left-wing policies and candidates. Many will grow up and continue to be progressive, which causes the leftward shift.
>Sure, there are some exceptions like same-sex marriage
You're dismissing key evidence. Same-sex marriage, marijuana, prison reform, police reform ha... | Republicans have lost every single presidential popular vote since 1988, except once.
The Republican senate "majority" represents 15 million fewer citizens than the Democratic "minority."
Republicans are engaging in voter disenfranchisement in all sorts of ways--removing polling places in highly democratic areas, ef... | jlgkdz | CMV: It's kind of a false idea the US is moving left because it doesn't really have much evidence in the polls. | The core beliefs of the US have remained relatively the same in the past 20-30 years. Sure, there are some exceptions like same-sex marriage, but other than that, when you look at many issues, there isn't really that much change. Even though Democrats have gained more in elections, that is more a result of dislike to t... | SoftAlmond | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Mods who mute the ability to talk to them are not promoting healthy Reddit communities.
Consider the reason for muting. Is the reason valid? Might be. Is the person cussing/swearing/directly offensive? Probably a valid reason to mute.
​
But take a step back. If you're muting simply because you can... | I mod a few smaller, semi-niche subs. Some people are just trolls who have nothing better to do than argue and harass people. There's been many users who get banned and just repeatedly message mod mail "lol mods are fags" type of messages. Mutes are only valid for 72 hours, and I personally wish there was a permanent o... | Mods of popular subs have massive responsibilities and don’t have the time to deal with users who don’t respect that.
There’s way too much going on in Reddit’s top subreddits to deal with non-essential issues. Plenty of posts make it to r/all that blatantly break a subreddit’s rules. Moderators have to prioritize.
A ... | clje30 | CMV: Mods who mute the ability to talk to them are not promoting healthy Reddit communities. | Consider the reason for muting. Is the reason valid? Might be. Is the person cussing/swearing/directly offensive? Probably a valid reason to mute.
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But take a step back. If you're muting simply because you can't be bothered to do your job (which is moderate conversations), what are you really doing? Y... | mrstackz | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Mods who mute the ability to talk to them are not promoting healthy Reddit communities.
Consider the reason for muting. Is the reason valid? Might be. Is the person cussing/swearing/directly offensive? Probably a valid reason to mute.
​
But take a step back. If you're muting simply because you can... | Mods of popular subs have massive responsibilities and don’t have the time to deal with users who don’t respect that.
There’s way too much going on in Reddit’s top subreddits to deal with non-essential issues. Plenty of posts make it to r/all that blatantly break a subreddit’s rules. Moderators have to prioritize.
A ... | I mod a bunch of small and rarely complained about subreddits. The one kind of big subreddit I mod occasionally gets trolls, but for the most part I don’t have to actually mod. I have a policy of generally being hands off because I believe more moderation leads to more moderation being required. Anyway, I think the mut... | clje30 | CMV: Mods who mute the ability to talk to them are not promoting healthy Reddit communities. | Consider the reason for muting. Is the reason valid? Might be. Is the person cussing/swearing/directly offensive? Probably a valid reason to mute.
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But take a step back. If you're muting simply because you can't be bothered to do your job (which is moderate conversations), what are you really doing? Y... | mrstackz | 9 | 9 | [
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