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CMV: If Trump's Travel ban was racist, then Biden's travel ban is even more racist.
Edit: Just in case it wasn't clear, this post is about the China travel ban at the beginning of pandemic, not any other bans, and compared to this week's Biden's India travel ban. (no other edits to the main text)
So, a throwback to h... | [deleted]
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And how is any of your argumentation not a mirror image of what now is being done to India? If restricting travel to china is "A secret plot of Racist Trump against the Chinese", even though all countries did that, how is now restricting travel against Indians (even though Americans can return from Indi... | I don't remember anyone calling the travel bans racist. What I do remember is people on the right trying to make the narrative that Democrats think the travel ban is racist happen.
See, the whole idea back then was that the travel ban was taking swift and direct action against the coronavirus. When in reality, Trump w... | n2fc2a | CMV: If Trump's Travel ban was racist, then Biden's travel ban is even more racist. | Edit: Just in case it wasn't clear, this post is about the China travel ban at the beginning of pandemic, not any other bans, and compared to this week's Biden's India travel ban. (no other edits to the main text)
So, a throwback to history, as we shall look at it through today's lenses.
Back at the start of the pand... | SomeoneNamedSomeone | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: US Social Security will be financially sustainable, if a little reduced, for decades to come
I've seen several people recently who feel that US social security (SSI and SSDI) will not be sustainable over the next few decades, and that we should stop the program before going into further debt, or pass implementati... | Generally speaking. Instead of reducing benefits, wouldn't a simpler solution to minimize the long term payout issue would be to raise the retirement age and payout age. Reducing benefits will only hurt people over the long term and decrease the spending power. However, if you increase the payout age, then recipients w... | You say the payroll tax isn’t going anywhere, Trump has recently floated the idea of reducing it to stimulate the economy. In my opinion, if the program needs to be reduced to be sustainable, it is not sustainable. I’m not agreeable to paying in my entire career and then only getting 70% of what I’m entitled to, I don’... | d5yaxm | CMV: US Social Security will be financially sustainable, if a little reduced, for decades to come | I've seen several people recently who feel that US social security (SSI and SSDI) will not be sustainable over the next few decades, and that we should stop the program before going into further debt, or pass implementation on to the states ([source](https://beta.trustory.io/claim/1191)).
I disagree. I do acknowlege t... | calebisms | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Religion is doing more harm then good ans the best way to solve this is by making it mandatory to have philosophy/critical thinking classes in schools.
Justification for the first part of the title:
1. Mainstream religions base their views on ancient texts that are not relevant in today's society. This leads to... | The fundamentals of philosophy are based on texts even more ancient than the ones used in the "mainstream" religions, and written by historical figures touting ideas just as problematic once you get to the same fringe where religion is problematic.
Also, most students already take a version of critical thinking and ph... | For point 2, how do you explain the many great scientists who were religious?
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Assuming you mean current scientists (as scientists from an older age were mostly religious because they assumed it to be fact), I can only think that they are deliberately ignorant of the many PLITHOLES that religion has. As I mentione... | n2f1yl | CMV: Religion is doing more harm then good ans the best way to solve this is by making it mandatory to have philosophy/critical thinking classes in schools. | Justification for the first part of the title:
1. Mainstream religions base their views on ancient texts that are not relevant in today's society. This leads to outdated and barbaric practices like child marriage, genital mutilation, corrective rape, conversion therapy and in extreme cases, terrorism.
2. Religions ... | cheesygravy89 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: revolving doors are generally inferior to regular doors
As far as I can tell, revolving doors have 2 primary purposes: keeping buildings hot/cold by not letting drafts in and allowing large numbers of people to enter/exit where a normal door would’ve gotten blocked. While I as a person who lives in a cold climate... | The draft reason is not about temperature. It's to address a quirk of skyscrapers, where wind blowing onto the building is accelerated at the base- known as the [downdraught effect](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33426889). These exceptionally high winds would cause normal doors to flap and bang, and be difficult ... | [deleted]
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You still have to touch the glass if it’s not automatic, though.
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Yes and they’re awful! I guess it’s so you can dictate your own speed if you’re a really slowly elderly person or something. Though I think some of the automatic ones sense that. | ack0y2 | CMV: revolving doors are generally inferior to regular doors | As far as I can tell, revolving doors have 2 primary purposes: keeping buildings hot/cold by not letting drafts in and allowing large numbers of people to enter/exit where a normal door would’ve gotten blocked. While I as a person who lives in a cold climate (Montreal, for anyone interested) appreciate anything that ke... | rrsn | 5 | 4 | [
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CMV: There is no difference between a hijab and a bra- if one is oppressive the other must be.
**EDIT- NOT BRALESS TOPLESS**
So we often say that women in Iran or Saudi Arabia are oppressed for wearing hijab. But if you think about it some african tribe in which they expose breasts would think it is oppressive that... | >But if you think about it some african tribe in which they expose breasts would think it is oppressive that women have to wear bras
Can you show me where women in the west are being assaulted or harassed for not wearing bras?
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The actions of other countries should have no bearing on what is allowed in your count... | The world is not black and white. While one could consider bras and hijabs oppressive, they are absolutely *not the same*. A hijab is *more* oppressive than a bra. Furthermore, a niqab and a burqa are more oppressive than a hijab. Maybe you'd have a case if hijabs were required but *not* bras. However, you aren't tradi... | 704by3 | CMV: There is no difference between a hijab and a bra- if one is oppressive the other must be. | **EDIT- NOT BRALESS TOPLESS**
So we often say that women in Iran or Saudi Arabia are oppressed for wearing hijab. But if you think about it some african tribe in which they expose breasts would think it is oppressive that women have to wear bras and cover breasts in the west. People in the west don't think twice abo... | DRMOOMOO420 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: If time travel creates branching storylines, then going to "the past" should not be considered immoral.
This largely is based on the time travel model that illustrates new pathways created, similar to Endgame and less like the model that explains going to the past alters your current reality. There have been too ... | The issue isnt that you are going to hurt anyone in "the main timeline". The issue is you might damage someone in "the alternative timeline".
Those people are still people, and deserve moral consideration. Their lives are now just as real as any other.
So, going back in time and nuking Rome, would have no effect on... | Star Trek: Watching the Clock touched on this. In that universe, going to the past an changing it did create an alternate timeline. The problem, is that somewhere down the line, those two lines are going to hit. Not merge, hit.
When that happens, both timelines, an all the people there, are erased from reality. Everyt... | ivjcf3 | CMV: If time travel creates branching storylines, then going to "the past" should not be considered immoral. | This largely is based on the time travel model that illustrates new pathways created, similar to Endgame and less like the model that explains going to the past alters your current reality. There have been too many flaws pointed out that could contradict the time travel experience itself, so we will only focus on if ti... | RiftedEnergy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People that ask for a second referendum/vote/etc. when they realized they made a mistake shouldn't get a second try at doing "the right thing"
First, there are no right or wrong decisions. The argument of being on the "right side of history" makes no sense. You can take extreme examples as electing Hitler as "bei... | The biggest issue here is that your view assumes that life is static. To continue your example of Brexit, the referendum was almost 4 years ago. The economy has changed, governments have changed, situations have changed. It is reasonable to imagine that people's opinions about something that affects so many aspects of ... | I agree with your overal statement, however I disagree with when you say MPs should make the decision.
The problem we've had with Brexit is that for MPs and parties to have legitimacy say to leave the EU then a party needs to have a clear and accurate view of that in their manifesto, if a party decides to make huge cha... | ewuhq9 | CMV: People that ask for a second referendum/vote/etc. when they realized they made a mistake shouldn't get a second try at doing "the right thing" | First, there are no right or wrong decisions. The argument of being on the "right side of history" makes no sense. You can take extreme examples as electing Hitler as "being wrong" but people made a decision to elect him, they didn't make a right or wrong decision, they made a decision. History can tell us that the dec... | aguadovimeiro | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Video games are not a productive use of time.
Before I get crucified, let me make it very clear I'm not making any judgements about gamers here. I've been an avid gamer ever since I was old enough to hold a controller, and I've met a lot of my best friends through games and have had more meaningful and validating... | Putting 100 hours in to Nietzsche is bad for the soul.
As for whether or not you are being productive, that's subjective to what you want to be productive. I could tell my friends to read Plato's allegory of the cave, but many of them would get bored. Or I could have them watch the matrix, and have a conversation a... | I'd like to address this part of your post:
>I know that this argument is a somewhat weak, because you can always think of something better you could be doing with your time no matter what you're doing, but I still can't shake the feeling that games are somehow not adding much to my character or challenging me in any ... | 9idu9d | CMV: Video games are not a productive use of time. | Before I get crucified, let me make it very clear I'm not making any judgements about gamers here. I've been an avid gamer ever since I was old enough to hold a controller, and I've met a lot of my best friends through games and have had more meaningful and validating experiences playing them than with any other form o... | AIseias | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We need to start embracing being single as a valid life choice and support it as such, same as we support any other life choices.
Speaking as someone who has been single for the vast majority of my life and whose interest in relationships seems to be dwindling over time, I can personally attest to the fact that s... | What makes you think there isn't support for it? What kind of support would you expect that doesn't currently exist?
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Like I said, r/Singles is just a thirst sub rather than a place for singles to go and talk to each other. Where's the sub where people go if they're single and want to talk to other singles about w... | I'm curious what you think things should look like if people did collectively embrace being single as a valid life decision.
You talk about having a place for people to get together and find other single friends to talk about and support each other with their life decision, but that seems kinda weird to me. Dating is ... | 1g6jkrp | CMV: We need to start embracing being single as a valid life choice and support it as such, same as we support any other life choices. | Speaking as someone who has been single for the vast majority of my life and whose interest in relationships seems to be dwindling over time, I can personally attest to the fact that society does NOT respect this as a "choice", much less a "valid" one. Sometimes this is generally viewed as a consequence of some unfortu... | Nillavuh | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It Should be Illegal to Use Real Notification Sounds in Media
Pretty self explanatory.
I don’t think people should go to prison for violating the law im proposing but I think a fine would be appropriate. Ideally this problem could be solved without government intervention but until that day I think it should be ... | What is stupid and annoying about using one sound over another
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When I hear the iPhone notification sound, I check my phone. When I hear that sound in a movie I check my phone. Its annoying to check my phone when I haven't received a notification. It also breaks immersion. If I hear that sound its immediately brin... | > It’s not fair use for a characters phone in a movie to use the same sound as my phone in real life.
Record your own voice saying “RING RING RING”
Problem solved.
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I suppose custom ringtones are a solution to this problem. Its more like treating the symptoms and not the root cause of the issue though.
Why shou... | 17ydo5c | CMV: It Should be Illegal to Use Real Notification Sounds in Media | Pretty self explanatory.
I don’t think people should go to prison for violating the law im proposing but I think a fine would be appropriate. Ideally this problem could be solved without government intervention but until that day I think it should be prohibited by law to use real notification sounds in media. I’d supp... | EmilyGGG | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: The US was never intended to be a 'democracy' in the way people understand it today
I'm always surprised people in the US don't understand this, but the reason why the US rebelled from England was because people didn't want to pay taxes to the crown - but this doesn't mean they wanted democracy the way we underst... | In your OP, you mentioned a bunch of facts about the evolution of voting rights in the US. What exactly is your view that you want to be changed? It's hard to change your mind about the true fact that only white land-owning males were eligible to vote when the US was first founded. It sounds like you're just grandstand... | Weird that the founding fathers left all the good stuff open ended like that. They could have very easlily just included 'for white men only' for every amendment, and constitutional right, but they didn't. America in a few centuries went from a colony to the largest economic empire in human history, and also blows past... | 1eri139 | CMV: The US was never intended to be a 'democracy' in the way people understand it today | I'm always surprised people in the US don't understand this, but the reason why the US rebelled from England was because people didn't want to pay taxes to the crown - but this doesn't mean they wanted democracy the way we understand it. Democracy was just propaganda, and after winning the revolution, those who advocat... | ThatOneGuy012345678 | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Parents are often worse drivers than the teenager (after the teen gets their license)
Before we start off, I am a teenager. I am speaking from my perspective and from seeing my parents driving, as well as stories I've heard from my friends.
Now, don't get me wrong, teenagers can be especially bad drivers. They ... | Insurance companies have billions of dollars riding on all their research that says otherwise.
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Yeah, teens can be bad drivers. But the leading cause of deaths by driving is being "distracted", and usually people are distracted because they're being complacent. They're not focusing on the road, and this is especia... | > The risk of motor vehicle crashes is higher among 16-19-year-olds than among any other age group. In fact, per mile driven, teen drivers ages 16 to 19 are nearly three times more likely than drivers aged 20 and older to be in a fatal crash.
> Newly licensed teens: Crash risk is particularly high during the first mon... | d68n79 | CMV: Parents are often worse drivers than the teenager (after the teen gets their license) | Before we start off, I am a teenager. I am speaking from my perspective and from seeing my parents driving, as well as stories I've heard from my friends.
Now, don't get me wrong, teenagers can be especially bad drivers. They get with their friends, think they're cool, and speed or do dumb stuff in general. But, I th... | hometownx- | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Canceling student loan debt is not a good idea.
I don't think that canceling student loan debt (either $10k or entirely) is good for the US, nor is it progressive.
I am a graduate student in STEM. I have about $35k in student loans now, which are in deferment (not accumulating interest) until I get my PhD. Canc... | I think any encouragement to get people educated is a good thing. I hire for a Fortune 100 tech company and for the programming and research roles we hire 70% H1B or external remote(out of the country). This is because they have free education and they specialize without worry of the burden.
In the U.S. people are af... | From 2018:
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I am a graduate student in STEM. I have about $35k in student loans now, which are in deferment (not accumulating interest) until I get my PhD. Canceling my student loans, or forgiving $10k of them, doe... | Bigelownage | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Voter ID laws are a good idea
The way I see it, requiring valid identification to vote is not an inherently bad idea and I feel that we should have some form of voter ID law in all 50 states. Requiring someone to prove who they actually are before they vote on the future of their community, state, or the nation a... | >(which has been proven to take place in the past)
Yeah but that's a super shaky claim. According to [this](https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud) there has only been about 1100 recorded cases of voter fraud since atleast the year 2000. In a country of 300+ million you are asking for close to 30 million of those people... | In a democracy, voting is a right. The entire point of establishing a system of government where people vote is because you think that everybody has a right to have their voice heard. In some cases, people might have this right revoked for committing a crime similar to how people committing a crime lose the right to fr... | b9jfx2 | CMV: Voter ID laws are a good idea | The way I see it, requiring valid identification to vote is not an inherently bad idea and I feel that we should have some form of voter ID law in all 50 states. Requiring someone to prove who they actually are before they vote on the future of their community, state, or the nation at large would not only stifle concer... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Fame, money, and power negatively impacts a person's personality.
I believe that fame, money, and power have effects on people which make them full of themselves, often more worried about what others actually think of them (despite various publicity stunts), and generally less likeable as individuals.
And I do... | There seems to be a massive potential for confirmation bias in this view. Namely, the people who have fame, money and/or power and are negatively impacted are far more likely to be noticed.
A celebrity who has fame and deals with it but keeps their private life to themselves and doesn't go out of their way to flaunt f... | I tend to see it in reverse fame, power, and money naturally end up in those people who pocess the negstive characteristics needed to acquire them.
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This delta has been rejected. The length of your comment suggests that you haven't properly explained how /u/TheYOUngeRGOD changed your view (comment ... | 702pin | CMV: Fame, money, and power negatively impacts a person's personality. | I believe that fame, money, and power have effects on people which make them full of themselves, often more worried about what others actually think of them (despite various publicity stunts), and generally less likeable as individuals.
And I don't think you need to be a pop star, a billionaire, or the President for... | NihiloZero | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Safe, Effective, Fully Autonomous Automobile Traffic is Possible in the US within 5 years.
CMV: The current automobile traffic network is almost completely governed by visual
semaphores, and that technology is ages old at this point. That's an
above-average simplification, though: there's a lot more technolog... | Who's going to be paying for the new cars necessary - The government? If not, then who? Are you expecting to pass a law mandating new vehicle purchases?
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The technology exists to retrofit a great many cars on the road today.
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The problem is that anything short of a 100% retrofit breaks the system. Laws would... | They could be made, sure.
Now get people to pay for them. Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck, so asking all of them to replace their current car just because would be a tough sell.
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They basically gave stimulus checks for COVID. This would work similarly.
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America won't even get affordable insulin to i... | 1akbh5n | CMV: Safe, Effective, Fully Autonomous Automobile Traffic is Possible in the US within 5 years. | CMV: The current automobile traffic network is almost completely governed by visual
semaphores, and that technology is ages old at this point. That's an
above-average simplification, though: there's a lot more technology, of
increasing complexity, that powers our traffic grid. Boil it down, though, its
colored ... | liaison-to-earth | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Booby traps should be completely and globally legal if they're able to be turned on and off.
The only argument I've seen against booby traps is that there could arise a scenario where, for the owner's safety, medical staff, police or firefighters may need to enter the home without the consent of the owner.
This... | What happens when you die before emergency services can get there (or you die while not even home) and you don't deactivate your traps? Now EMTS, friends, and family have to wade through a minefield to collect your body and belongings.
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The traps wouldn't be activated. You activate them when you believe there's a ... | First, that's the only argument you've heard against them? I feel like a lot of people would take issue with the idea of universally using lethal force against all individuals entering your home without your permission. Even if you accept that a person has a right to defend themselves and their property, I think there ... | 1g6a4pg | CMV: Booby traps should be completely and globally legal if they're able to be turned on and off. | The only argument I've seen against booby traps is that there could arise a scenario where, for the owner's safety, medical staff, police or firefighters may need to enter the home without the consent of the owner.
This could occur if you had, say, a pitfall trap somehow set up in your house that was always actively ... | MHSevven | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Speeding in order to execute an overtake in the oncoming lane should be completely legal
I'm not sure how it works in the States, but in Australia it is illegal to exceed the speed limit in order to overtake someone in the oncoming lane.
So for example, if I'm on a one lane stretch of road with a 100km/h speed ... | Why would you ever need to overtake someone to go 2km/h faster?
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Because I want to drive at 100 which means passing the person doing 98?
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you don't need to drive at 100
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I also didn't need to eat KFC for dinner last night but I wanted to and there was thankfully no law against it
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>but I wanted to a... | >To me, if the choice is between allowing someone to speed up by 10 or 20 km/h for a few seconds in order to pass someone, or forcing them to sit in the oncoming lane for far longer periods of time just to get passed someone and resume their normal speed, its pretty clearly safer to allow people to do the former.
Howe... | 159tpw0 | CMV: Speeding in order to execute an overtake in the oncoming lane should be completely legal | I'm not sure how it works in the States, but in Australia it is illegal to exceed the speed limit in order to overtake someone in the oncoming lane.
So for example, if I'm on a one lane stretch of road with a 100km/h speed limit, and I come up behind someone doing 98km/h, I am not allowed to speed up to, say, 110 or ... | TheCricketFan416 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Trump supporters don’t spend enough time trying to understand non-supporters
We usually see this the other way around.
- NYT interviews with Trump supporters explaining their views to a liberal audience
- topics on subs like this asking to have views changed by non-supporters
- subs like r/askTrumpSupporters ex... | [deleted]
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I know exactly what little lines you’re talking about. That’s actually what got me interested in hearing straight from the horses mouth of Trump support. I wouldn’t represent news media as the go-to for anyone curious enough to seek out the other side.
But what I’m asking is what most Trump supporters... | Thats because the non-supporter side is already well known via the big media outlets.
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Can you summarize the NS argument? Are you comfortable ceeding your position to the media portrayal of it?
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> Can you summarize the NS argument?
Why? Are you saying the big media does not show the actual non-supporter v... | 9i7mzw | CMV: Trump supporters don’t spend enough time trying to understand non-supporters | We usually see this the other way around.
- NYT interviews with Trump supporters explaining their views to a liberal audience
- topics on subs like this asking to have views changed by non-supporters
- subs like r/askTrumpSupporters exist and are well participated in by Non-supporters seeking to understand
It's goo... | fox-mcleod | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Refs Should Never Be to Blame for a Lost Game
This CMV is aimed more towards the die-hard sports fans... I understand a lot of people are anti-sports though (I do not know why when I see sports as being a positive thing that unites so many people together lol).
Referees should not be blamed when a team loses a g... | >but why was your team in that position of having to score a game-winner in the first place?
Because the teams were very close in ability? Those turnovers could have been because the opponent had good defense. That means the margin of ability between the two teams was close. When a game comes down to one play an... | Disagree completely. Refs are there to enforce the rules of the game. If they make a call contrary to the rules and it costs the team they ruled against the game then they are 100% to blame.
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This is where I disagree then. If you came to with a statement that said the refs are partially to blame then I could agree... | rqv0z6 | CMV: Refs Should Never Be to Blame for a Lost Game | This CMV is aimed more towards the die-hard sports fans... I understand a lot of people are anti-sports though (I do not know why when I see sports as being a positive thing that unites so many people together lol).
Referees should not be blamed when a team loses a game. I am only a professional and collegiate footbal... | calelikethevegetable | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: For married couples money should always be treated as communal property.
(Full disclosure: I had another post which went a bit sideways from my intentions based on the fact that I made the core of the issue sound like something different. So I deleted that post and wanted to make a new one to dig further into wha... | Do you have a problem with a particular couple deciding that they'll separately track finances and *won't* share their personal money with each other except maybe for certain shared expenses like bills? Like, how does it affect you if they do that?
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It doesn't really affect me in any way, obviously. It's just not ... | Isn't it better to let couples negotiate their financials and come to an agreed upon solution on their own as adults? Your rules may work best for you and presumably your current or future spouse, but people are different and have different needs.
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I understand that people have different views and that different t... | d61lx3 | CMV: For married couples money should always be treated as communal property. | (Full disclosure: I had another post which went a bit sideways from my intentions based on the fact that I made the core of the issue sound like something different. So I deleted that post and wanted to make a new one to dig further into what I think is the proper core of my view.)
I fully and sincerely believe th... | matrix_man | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is never a thing as too many limits on power of political office and the rights of political/government office holders should be forfeit
Okay, political office holders, whatever their intentions may be tend to creep their scope of government. This often results in political office holders being entrenched a... | Specifically what limits do you want put in place? Also, what do you mean by rights? You used the phrase “rights to office” what do you mean by that?
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All jobs that are strictly outside a ministry's portfolio would be strictly forbidden with no exceptions. Meaning that the finance ministry should not take on the r... | If you have that kind of power over them doesn't that mean you hold the true societal power and should have as few rights
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No, the power is with the citizens to deal with them as they wish through hook or by crook, plus I would implement this and resign from all politics immediately.
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In other words you plan ... | 159stf7 | CMV: There is never a thing as too many limits on power of political office and the rights of political/government office holders should be forfeit | Okay, political office holders, whatever their intentions may be tend to creep their scope of government. This often results in political office holders being entrenched and commanding way too much power that is strictly outside their portfolio. In addition, politics often results in the unsavory being attracted into ... | Cheemingwan1234 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: We listen to the wrong when it comes to AI and that is a big problem
My thesis is simple: Most people when it comes to AI, they take cues from politicans, CEOs and sci-fi movies \*way too much\*. In reality almost everything AI-related today is created in the primary literature by scientists with years of trainin... | I'm a software developer, I have experience with it and know how it works. My worry is not AI itself, it's that its current capabilities are massively overhyped and it's being shoehorned into uses that it's not ready for due to its tendency to make mistakes and its general bias.
AI taking over the world skynet style ... | >It may be all in my head but I do not see politician consult scientists too often in that area, but rather CEOs instead. With bright exceptions of course.
There's of course arguments to be made that the balance is off, but I can guarantee you that there's a lot of attention being paid to scientists and academics. It'... | 1c2wpt4 | CMV: We listen to the wrong when it comes to AI and that is a big problem | My thesis is simple: Most people when it comes to AI, they take cues from politicans, CEOs and sci-fi movies \*way too much\*. In reality almost everything AI-related today is created in the primary literature by scientists with years of training.
If you are scared about AI right now, the shit that exists on academic... | andrew21w | 5 | 3 | [
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CMV: Luigi Mangione is the canary in the coal mine moment for our society.
There is so much to unpack here. First off, the narratives are insanely neurotic. On one side, you have reports of people outright cheering this guy on. On the other side, they're using every trick in the book to discredit his fans while hu... | The CEO murder is just a sign that the American government has failed its citizens. I don’t know why anyone is surprised it happened. I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner.
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It's complicated. The US system is built on the idea that government corruption is the world thing that can happen, and created a framework... | I remember people saying this about the BLM protests. What was the result? Not much. Trump elected again a few years later.
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Right. But the difference is, those really were peaceful! The random looting and arson, any idiot can see those were isolated and didn't represent the larger protest. But Luigi, he cou... | 1i4bt66 | CMV: Luigi Mangione is the canary in the coal mine moment for our society. | There is so much to unpack here. First off, the narratives are insanely neurotic. On one side, you have reports of people outright cheering this guy on. On the other side, they're using every trick in the book to discredit his fans while humanizing his victim. Meanwhile, in the real world, so many people are strugg... | TheFrogofThunder | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Rapists should be emasculated or given vaginectomies. And child predators should be given life in prison by default, where they should be forced to work for the financial benefit of the victim.
First post in this sub so forgive me any mistakes.
I live in the United States so arguments should be relevant to US la... | Seems to directly [contradict the 8th Amendment](https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-viii/clauses/103#:~:text=The%20Eighth%20Amendment%20to%20the,as%20the%20price%20for%20obtaining), as mutilating genitals seems cruel and unusual.
This is a weird one because hating rapists and wanting ... | This has a very similar problem to the death penalty, you can’t take it back. Courts make mistakes all the time, around 4% of convictions are false and many more innocent people plead out to avoid the threat of harsh punishments under threat from police that a jury will convict them, even when they’re innocent. If I ha... | 1akbqnv | CMV: Rapists should be emasculated or given vaginectomies. And child predators should be given life in prison by default, where they should be forced to work for the financial benefit of the victim. | First post in this sub so forgive me any mistakes.
I live in the United States so arguments should be relevant to US law. Here I believe law is too lenient on people who commit these crimes. I'd love to see arguments for why these should not be implemented but also would love to read alternatives.
I also would like t... | interrogare_omnia | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Child beauty pageants should banned as they promote a toxic environment and normalize pedophilia
So as my post goes I think beauty pageants should be banned everywhere and I still don't know why they go on. I remember a while back watching that TLC show about child beauty pageants and seeing kids who literally ha... | Are child beauty pageants sexual ?
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Did you even read his post?
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I did. Though i think it's abusive, i dont think it normalizes pedophilia. It normalizes unhealthy and unrealistic beauty standards.
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Nothing really normalizes pedos, they’re pretty abnormal and know it. Doesn’t make this any less sick or w... | I find this difficult because I actually agree with pretty much everything you've written.
However, while I wouldn't care if these events were banned, wouldn't it be better to ban the specific attributes that encourage the psychologically destructive and unwanted aspects of the pageant?
For example, no more aestheti... | d5ybhx | CMV: Child beauty pageants should banned as they promote a toxic environment and normalize pedophilia | So as my post goes I think beauty pageants should be banned everywhere and I still don't know why they go on. I remember a while back watching that TLC show about child beauty pageants and seeing kids who literally had zero clue what was going on with pancake makeup on prancing around on a stage to appease 20+ men and ... | KyleCAV | 13 | 13 | [
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CMV: Homo Sapiens is a destructive species responsible for the elimination of the majority of other species and a deathly threat to the environment - nothing more than a virus that keeps spreading for the sake of extending its own lifespan
Somebody told me recently that each individual human life has value within the ... | >just life begetting more life because it does not want to extinct.
At its core, this applies to *all* life, not just humans. The thing is, as best we can tell, the universe is a cold, emotionless, uncaring place and there is no morality apart from what we humans invent to govern our existence. What makes the "natural... | >you may call it human consciousness, that just wants to spread and multiply.
Human consciousness and self-awareness are, I think, the best bet for establishing a sustainable and environmentally beneficial way of living. Animals without sapience or advanced problem solving, especially predator animals, are well able t... | 6zwa7z | CMV: Homo Sapiens is a destructive species responsible for the elimination of the majority of other species and a deathly threat to the environment - nothing more than a virus that keeps spreading for the sake of extending its own lifespan | Somebody told me recently that each individual human life has value within the broader context of humanity. Yes, I am a little human who will die having left no trace behind but I am a part of the human race that will go on accumulating resources and building its amazing networks. Well, I thought, sounds like I can be ... | bluemakesmovies | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It’s generally not good to circumcise babies but it’s not a big deal.
I’ve been seeing this brought up online more lately, mostly in very dramatic terms. Someone said circumcision is “barbaric” and another described it as a heinous form of disfiguring abuse. I think people are right when they say we should stop c... | You made it so hard to change your view, because you agree that it's not good, but says that it's not a big deal. So do you expect other people here convince you that it's a big deal?
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Yeah, there might be evidence of significant problems I’m not aware of.
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There's a specific form of circumcision practiced by... | It's definitely abuse. Removing body parts of vulnerable people who can't consent is disgusting.
Culture is not an excuse for vile behaviour.
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Saying it’s vile doesn’t mean it’s actually vile. It would be vile if it significantly affected the boys life but it doesn’t.
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It's vile. | 1ak96ew | CMV: It’s generally not good to circumcise babies but it’s not a big deal. | I’ve been seeing this brought up online more lately, mostly in very dramatic terms. Someone said circumcision is “barbaric” and another described it as a heinous form of disfiguring abuse. I think people are right when they say we should stop circumcising babies with no medical need for the procedure, but I disagree th... | Grandemestizo | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Not helping a public bystander in need doesn’t make you a bad person.
Every time something bad happens in Public without anyone interfering, people are always quick to blame the passerbys and question their morality and label them as bad people for not helping.
I disagree for a multitude of reasons. I was in a ... | I genuinely believe the world sucks because of what can only be literally described as coward bureaucratic minded weasels” (like I believe you to be).
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Sure and you’re entitled to your belief. I don’t care what others think whether I’m a bad person or not.
This post is to question this belief or idea and the logi... | > Every time something bad happens in Public without anyone interfering, people are always quick to blame the passerbys and question their morality and label them as bad people for not helping.
Can you share evidence this is common in society? Seems more like observation bias on your end.
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I mean, it does literal... | 159nsjs | CMV: Not helping a public bystander in need doesn’t make you a bad person. | Every time something bad happens in Public without anyone interfering, people are always quick to blame the passerbys and question their morality and label them as bad people for not helping.
I disagree for a multitude of reasons. I was in a similar situation recently where after class I was walking home and saw a gu... | HardcoreFanatic247 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The father of a baby/fetus should have to support it, no matter what choice the mother makes.
**Edit: I worded this badly. I mean, if she keeps the baby.**
Note: This isn't a statement on my views on abortion, it has nothing to do with that, this is about views on responsibility :)
My current view is that since... | Imagine a heterosexual couple where the man definitely never wants to have kids.
Imagine the woman does.
Imagine she pokes secret pinholes in all of his condoms
Imagine she becomes pregnant and he begs her to get an abortion because he doesn’t feel ready to be a father
According to what you’re saying, it’s morall... | So... what do you mean by that in the case where the woman chooses abortion?
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It's her body and that would be her right.
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Fine, but what do you mean by "the father of the fetus should have to support it" in the case of that choice? | acb6zc | CMV: The father of a baby/fetus should have to support it, no matter what choice the mother makes. | **Edit: I worded this badly. I mean, if she keeps the baby.**
Note: This isn't a statement on my views on abortion, it has nothing to do with that, this is about views on responsibility :)
My current view is that since the father had equal responsibility in conceiving the baby, he should have equal responsibility in ... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the left and democrats are not capable of the same cult behavior as maga
case in point, look at how they went from defending biden and hating kamala to immediately reversing course.
it was "lets weekend at bernies biden" to "kamala is awesome" when they were like "biden needs to dump kamala for his re-election"
... | Okay how about this. Well I can kind of see where you're coming from in the Democrat voters don't really idolize one particular politician the same way Republicans do (currently), are you open to the idea that Democrats can be just as partisan and even coltish as republicans, but instead of one Central figurehead, it's... | >Democrats tend to think critically and deeply about issues rather than just fall in line with whatever a political leader or talking head says.
Can't stand Trump, but whatever happened to "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" ?
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when was that ever not a thing?
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Always
https://www.npr.org/s... | 1g67mxc | CMV: the left and democrats are not capable of the same cult behavior as maga | case in point, look at how they went from defending biden and hating kamala to immediately reversing course.
it was "lets weekend at bernies biden" to "kamala is awesome" when they were like "biden needs to dump kamala for his re-election"
youd NEVER see that kind of tactical thinking on the maga republican side
all... | shadow_nipple | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:Children should NOT be taught to physically fight back when they are the victim of bullying
(originally posted to r/unpopularopinion, but removed due to being a repost/circlejerk?)
I think there's a few common misconceptions about bullies that are usually untrue:
They are not easily intimidated. A common talkin... | Making an assumption:
The bully is most likely bigger/stronger than the other kid, or has a group.
In this case and with the choices fight back or not, I would argue in most cases fighting back is best choice with caveats.
It may never be a good idea to stage a dramatic confrontation with a bully. If the bullied kid... | Tldr. Do you have kids?
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No, but my parents taught me to always tell an authority figure when I am threatened with violence, and I turned out fine. I am aware that is just an anecdote and doesn't prove anything, just throwing that out there in case you are thinking of adding an anecdote of your own.
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I respec... | ggoz7b | CMV:Children should NOT be taught to physically fight back when they are the victim of bullying | (originally posted to r/unpopularopinion, but removed due to being a repost/circlejerk?)
I think there's a few common misconceptions about bullies that are usually untrue:
They are not easily intimidated. A common talking point seems to be that "if the victim fights back, even if they don't win, the bully will bac... | notsuspendedlxqt | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's not necessarily wrong to judge based on appearances.
I mean that when you see a person, your mind (usually subconsciously) makes certain judgements about them, even when you don't actually know them. You might make positive (e.g. smart, trustworthy) or negative (e.g. suspicious, threatening) judgements based... | True to some degree. But your view could easily be used to justify various forms of discrimination.
Take, for example, the argument that black people aren't desirable customers for a waiter because they supposedly tip less.. that's judgement based on appearance but I don't see how anyone could justify that.
From a pr... | >Of course, it would be ideal if we could all make totally accurate judgements about each other based on actual experience, but in practice it is not feasible to invest the time in getting to know every person you meet.
The problem I could see here is that if everybody had your reasonning, we would be more likely to m... | 8ifoa8 | CMV: It's not necessarily wrong to judge based on appearances. | I mean that when you see a person, your mind (usually subconsciously) makes certain judgements about them, even when you don't actually know them. You might make positive (e.g. smart, trustworthy) or negative (e.g. suspicious, threatening) judgements based solely on someone's appearance. I think this is not necessarily... | Seddima | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Soaking the British flag in the blood of First Nations people doesn't warrant a boycott
The commissioning of 'Union Flag' for an edgy art festival in Australia has been heavily criticised as a "grave error in judgement". The piece by Spanish artist Santiago Sierra would have involved the soaking of the British fl... | The whole thing seems very poorly thought out, like the whole idea of donating loads of healthy blood to just waste it is dumb, corn syrup and red dye would work just as well. The fact that it's a Spanish artist going to Australia to ask for aboriginal blood to be given to him so he can pull off his very on the nose ar... | I imagine that people see the Union Flag as a symbol of their country and don't necessarily associate it with all the negative things the country has done.
They would argue that there are ways to get your point across without provoking people who ideally you are trying to win the support of. They might argue that boyc... | mzn0n7 | CMV: Soaking the British flag in the blood of First Nations people doesn't warrant a boycott | The commissioning of 'Union Flag' for an edgy art festival in Australia has been heavily criticised as a "grave error in judgement". The piece by Spanish artist Santiago Sierra would have involved the soaking of the British flag (Union Jack) in the donated blood of First Nations people from around the world, whose land... | agrariandreams | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It is wrong to prevent suicide
First off--and this is the basis to my view--I believe that there are no universal truths. There are certainly things that apply to most people, but nothing that applies to everyone. If someone feels that life ultimately brings more pain than happiness, or does more harm than good, ... | Most people who attempt suicide and fail do not attempt it again. That alone will tell you that it is not a rational, intellectual decision but a spur of the moment decision brought about largely due to mental state. Suicidality is not caused by carefully, lucidly weighing your current situation and making a rational d... | The truth you are imposing isn't a commentary on the worth of life, but on the _possibility_ that it is _an illness_ that is driving the choice to commit suicide.
Suicide is fatal and it is most often the result of a disease that is _not fatal_ if treated. We know from the best available evidence (which is not perfec... | 6b77z0 | CMV: It is wrong to prevent suicide | First off--and this is the basis to my view--I believe that there are no universal truths. There are certainly things that apply to most people, but nothing that applies to everyone. If someone feels that life ultimately brings more pain than happiness, or does more harm than good, then they should be able to kill them... | chemical_syntax | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Trump will most likely not be impeached
Because I might get flamed, I want to clarify that I am not a Trump supporter. I'm only interested in facts behind the call for impeachment and the events leading up to it. That being said, I think that there is not enough evidence to actually go through with an impeachment... | So are you arguing that Trump won't be impeached at all? Remember, to be impeached, you need a simple majority in the House. In this instance that would be 218 members. More than 218 democrats have already expressed support for impeachment. So even if not a single Republican votes for it, Trump could still very well be... | > From what I've been hearing so far on the impeachment markup, it seems like the basis of Trump's impeachment is treason or abuse of power based on his alleged collusion with Russia and call for interference based on a meeting/phone call with Ukrainian president Zelensky.
What methods do you use to determine how reli... | e9rldc | CMV: Trump will most likely not be impeached | Because I might get flamed, I want to clarify that I am not a Trump supporter. I'm only interested in facts behind the call for impeachment and the events leading up to it. That being said, I think that there is not enough evidence to actually go through with an impeachment, and the Republican majority Senate will like... | Enter_The_Nucleus | 8 | 8 | [
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CMV: Saying things like “men are trash” or “fuck white people” is not okay just because it’s towards privileged demographics
I’m a bi (white) gal, and I’ve recently been a lot in online circles for lesbians and bisexual women. In there, jokes about men being stupid and assholes and yes, trash, are pretty prevalent. El... | So I recently made a post about “men being trash” and got a lot of hate for it. I’m going to speak anecdotally here, but I hope it can provide some perspective.
After making that post I spoke with a lot of friends, both male and female, about the phrase “men are trash” specifically, and there were a few things that c... | I think a lot of the time when people say these things it's implicit that they're joking. 'Men are trash' is not a comment designed to subjugate men, but a tongue-in-cheek retaliation against the things which are so often done to women. 'Fuck white people' achieves the same thing. It's a humorous way of dealing with ra... | ggizxx | CMV: Saying things like “men are trash” or “fuck white people” is not okay just because it’s towards privileged demographics | I’m a bi (white) gal, and I’ve recently been a lot in online circles for lesbians and bisexual women. In there, jokes about men being stupid and assholes and yes, trash, are pretty prevalent. Elsewhere too for that matter.
They always catch me off guard. Why is it okay to say things like these when the opposite would... | Moluwuchan | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: We shouldn't use 'black' or 'white' to describe anyone (including ourselves)
The terms black and white are exclusionary, divisive, unscientific and do a poor job of grouping people together. Categorising people as 'black' or 'white' has historically used as justification for oppression and continues to stoke tens... | Okay, so then what do you suggest then?
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In the body of my post I make the point that we don't have racial classifications for most of the world's population. We don't seem to need them for most people so why do we need them for people who (or are identified) identify as black or white.
For cases where we are try... | [deleted]
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> So do you want us to say there are white people and “others”?
I'd have more specific terms that are more relevant to the contexts in which they are being used.
> People from India are called Indian, people from Iran are called Iranian.
There are many people who have descended from people from the ... | qeywf9 | CMV: We shouldn't use 'black' or 'white' to describe anyone (including ourselves) | The terms black and white are exclusionary, divisive, unscientific and do a poor job of grouping people together. Categorising people as 'black' or 'white' has historically used as justification for oppression and continues to stoke tensions today. We should stop referring to ourselves or anyone else as 'black' or 'whi... | joe_ally | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Taxation is neccesary for any modern society to function.
I recently had a discussion with one of those *"Taxation is theft."* people, and it made me think to post a thread here. I'm generally left-leaning politically, at least by American standards, as I'm from Scandinavia (I'm considered right-leaning by our st... | I'm one of those "taxation is theft" people, and I stand by it. By definition, it's money/property being taken from you against your will.
That said, just because it's theft doesn't mean that I don't see its necessity. Obviously taxation has a purpose. Any government needs some level of revenue to function.
My op... | Governments could collect some degree of income without any need for force or such. They could have border patrols that taxed movement of goods across state or country lines, rent out property, have certain fees for businesses to get certified and approved, move goods easily. Lots of things that don't involve the use o... | 6sdf9t | CMV: Taxation is neccesary for any modern society to function. | I recently had a discussion with one of those *"Taxation is theft."* people, and it made me think to post a thread here. I'm generally left-leaning politically, at least by American standards, as I'm from Scandinavia (I'm considered right-leaning by our standards, ironically enough).
In my opinion, any functioning soc... | GfxJG | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Child support should be based on household income not just parental income
2 people have kid/s and for whatever reasons go their separate ways. There are then 2 households that the child/ren is part of. With the range of blended families and various set ups now it is wrong not to take the whole financial profile ... | It's always a little dangerous to give people an incentive to falsify their living situation and make courts figure out if someone is "really living together" or "just dating temporarily"...
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There are some pretty clear indicators - filing joint taxes, joint lease / mortgage, joint names on deed, marriage, other j... | I think you’re complicating an already solved problem. A judge is legally allowed to impute income based on earning potential. If someone is simply choosing to not work, they can still be held accountable for the determined child support.
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this is only in the USA for example in the UK it is solely based off of the... | e9q92j | CMV: Child support should be based on household income not just parental income | 2 people have kid/s and for whatever reasons go their separate ways. There are then 2 households that the child/ren is part of. With the range of blended families and various set ups now it is wrong not to take the whole financial profile of each household into account when calculating child support.
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cmv: All countries could and should agree to lower military spending by 10% every year for 5 years
To start off with, I understand the importance of a strong military - the world is a dangerous place and it's naive to think that any single country can drastically cut military spending without consequence. But global m... | > If the US military is three times the size of China's, it would remain exactly that.
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I actually think it would be the opposite - if spending is measured in tanks, country A starts out with 10 tanks and B has 1000 tanks. After the reduction, A has 5 tanks and B has 500. A still has almost no chance, but a much better chance than against 1 million.
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[deleted] | qetpyp | cmv: All countries could and should agree to lower military spending by 10% every year for 5 years | To start off with, I understand the importance of a strong military - the world is a dangerous place and it's naive to think that any single country can drastically cut military spending without consequence. But global military spending is 2 trillion dollars of wealth, which basically all just falls into a gigantic bon... | greglovesyou | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Climate Change requires instant ban of any new fossil fuel projects being started
I see sound reasoning behind this view:
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I like your symbolic use of pollution “units”.
To go further with that idea, we should imagine the entire cost of pollution “units” of the products.
Say a car costs 200 units of pollution to initially manufacture.
It then costs 10 units per year to operate.
Let’s say it lasts 20 years.
That’s a ... | What do you mean by a "new fossil fuel project?" At the very least the increase in mining and manufacturing of renewable energy sources will require fossil fuels. There are still millions of people in third world countries who did due to lack of medical care or heating in the winter. They require more energy to do so, ... | e9cpgn | CMV: Climate Change requires instant ban of any new fossil fuel projects being started | I see sound reasoning behind this view:
Climate change could effect many lives extremely negatively, probably ending quite a few, and no matter how much you disagree with the above statement, you have to agree that we must do something.
Also, fossil fuels are requiring less and less need - more wind farms and renew... | mrNyorm | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Antibiotics should be largely banned
I think antibiotics should be banned for public use, because what we are doing is creating antibiotic-resistant superbugs that will doom millions of lives. Probably (personal estimate) about 90% of the time antibiotics are used in times where they are not needed at all and als... | The thing is, that risks lives too.
Something could be not life threatening but 3 days later suddenly be life threatening. That persons chances of survival just went down because you didnt give them anti-biotics 3 days earlier.
For example if I skinned my knee and had a minor infection. I might go to the doctor, them... | I believe antibiotics should be prescription only, as they are already. I agree with you about overuse creating problems, but they are banned from the general public as it is and they are overprescribed. How would having them "largely banned" be any different? At some point a doctor is going to have to okay their use.
... | e992s9 | CMV: Antibiotics should be largely banned | I think antibiotics should be banned for public use, because what we are doing is creating antibiotic-resistant superbugs that will doom millions of lives. Probably (personal estimate) about 90% of the time antibiotics are used in times where they are not needed at all and also you are killing all the good bacteria in ... | 1capteinMARMELAD | 3 | 3 | [
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I think antibiotics should be banned for public use, because what we are doing is creating antibiotic-resistant superbugs that will doom millions of lives. Probably (personal estimate) about 90% of the time antibiotics are used in times where they are not needed at all and als... | The thing is, that risks lives too.
Something could be not life threatening but 3 days later suddenly be life threatening. That persons chances of survival just went down because you didnt give them anti-biotics 3 days earlier.
For example if I skinned my knee and had a minor infection. I might go to the doctor, them... | There's a ton of middle ground between "banning antibiotics for public use" and giving them out "only in cases of emergencies."
One of the most important reasons that antibiotics are prescribed is to prevent worse infections.
An otherwise health adult with pneumonia may be given antibiotics to prevent sepsis or menin... | e992s9 | CMV: Antibiotics should be largely banned | I think antibiotics should be banned for public use, because what we are doing is creating antibiotic-resistant superbugs that will doom millions of lives. Probably (personal estimate) about 90% of the time antibiotics are used in times where they are not needed at all and also you are killing all the good bacteria in ... | 1capteinMARMELAD | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Antibiotics should be largely banned
I think antibiotics should be banned for public use, because what we are doing is creating antibiotic-resistant superbugs that will doom millions of lives. Probably (personal estimate) about 90% of the time antibiotics are used in times where they are not needed at all and als... | The thing is, that risks lives too.
Something could be not life threatening but 3 days later suddenly be life threatening. That persons chances of survival just went down because you didnt give them anti-biotics 3 days earlier.
For example if I skinned my knee and had a minor infection. I might go to the doctor, them... | If antiobiotics were banned I would literally be dead the next time I catch a cold.
I have lung damage due to chemical pnuemonia when I was a child. It resulted in me having asthma, and another little quirk: whenever I get a cold, I get a chest infection, which if left untreated would turn from bronchitis into pnuemon... | e992s9 | CMV: Antibiotics should be largely banned | I think antibiotics should be banned for public use, because what we are doing is creating antibiotic-resistant superbugs that will doom millions of lives. Probably (personal estimate) about 90% of the time antibiotics are used in times where they are not needed at all and also you are killing all the good bacteria in ... | 1capteinMARMELAD | 3 | 3 | [
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Something could be not life threatening but 3 days later suddenly be life threatening. That persons chances of survival just went down because you didnt give them anti-biotics 3 days earlier.
For example if I skinned my knee and had a minor infection. I might go to the doctor, them... | By the time somebody has Sepsis, antibiotics are a last resort that is about as effective as a coin toss anyway. They are most effective and useful when used early on in an infection, and when used properly the risk of creating resistant bacteria is minimal.
I agree that antibiotics need to be used less than they are... | e992s9 | CMV: Antibiotics should be largely banned | I think antibiotics should be banned for public use, because what we are doing is creating antibiotic-resistant superbugs that will doom millions of lives. Probably (personal estimate) about 90% of the time antibiotics are used in times where they are not needed at all and also you are killing all the good bacteria in ... | 1capteinMARMELAD | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV:DUI Checkpoints Should be Illegal
It seems to me that DUI checkpoints, aka sobriety checkpoints, should be illegal. At a DUI checkpoint, police officers uniformly force every vehicle driving down a particular road to stop so the officers can see if the driver is impaired*. Those conducting the checkpoint have no p... | I think you might be misunderstanding the fourth amendment. It does not say "every search and seizure must have probable cause". It says "people have a right against unreasonable search and seizure." Probable cause is one way to justify a search and seizure as reasonable, but it is not the only way.
The Supreme Court... | They legally cannot force you down the road to a checkpoint. There should be a turnout, or a route you can take to avoid it. Otherwise, it's entrapment.
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This isn't true.
You could apply this same logic to just about any police involvement on the road. "Cops can't pull you over on the highway because there's no ... | 6b42mm | CMV:DUI Checkpoints Should be Illegal | It seems to me that DUI checkpoints, aka sobriety checkpoints, should be illegal. At a DUI checkpoint, police officers uniformly force every vehicle driving down a particular road to stop so the officers can see if the driver is impaired*. Those conducting the checkpoint have no probable cause to stop, investigate, or ... | morgan1027 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Schools Cause Psychological & Developmental Harm
Hi, I'm a preschool teacher, and I've been studying psychology a lot over the past several years. It led me to psychoanalyze myself pretty thoroughly, and realize the causes for a lot of the difficulty that I was having (depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD).
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That's a bad teacher. A *good one* is calling on students and eliciting opinion... | Alot of what your talking about is bad teaching practice. The program I went through discouraged anything more than 15 minutes of lectures with highschoolers because they recognize it causes students to become disengaged. It talked about the need to promote student choice and voice in the classroom. And the biggest emp... | ggfa32 | CMV: Schools Cause Psychological & Developmental Harm | Hi, I'm a preschool teacher, and I've been studying psychology a lot over the past several years. It led me to psychoanalyze myself pretty thoroughly, and realize the causes for a lot of the difficulty that I was having (depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD).
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CMV: Most people who strongly promote Socialism or Capitalism lack first hand experience with their shortcomings.
I decided to write this view instead of individually commenting on multiple posts that I see arguing for or against Socialism or Capitalism. Socialism is great for distributing pie evenly, but it doesn't m... | That's because the very reason capitalism's pie is so large is because of the unequal distribution. When you take capitalism's big pie and distribute it evenly, you may end up with a larger slice of pie in the moment than a society that has always been socialist but then you shrink what your future pie size could have ... | While capitalism is the foundation of the economy of the last few centuries, the layers on top have seen drastic changes. Today's capitalism is mostly of the neoliberal kind and produces different effects for different participants within the economy. Capitalism has existed with high taxes, low taxes, various levels of... | e82and | CMV: Most people who strongly promote Socialism or Capitalism lack first hand experience with their shortcomings. | I decided to write this view instead of individually commenting on multiple posts that I see arguing for or against Socialism or Capitalism. Socialism is great for distributing pie evenly, but it doesn't make very much pie. Capitalism cranks out a shit ton of pie, but one guy and his buddies get to eat most of it and i... | gray_clouds | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Person-centric reporting is not beneficial to overarching dialogue and fixing problems.
To be clear what I am talking about is when organizations make claims that "X percent of people in situation Y are suffering from this. Here is one(or two) person's story." These generally detract from the facts of the overarc... | While I understand and don't discount your concerns that person-centric reporting can lead to the cherrypicking of agreeable subjects, I also think that this technique has profound value for a few reasons.
Firstly, people simply tend to respond more to persona narratives than they do hard stats. Although we can logic... | I think we need both. We could have reporting about x number of children diagnosed every year with autism, and a list of common symptoms, but unless they showed you a few more in depth portrayals of actual kids and families, you’re unlikely to understand what the numbers mean or why they matter.
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CMV: U.S. Government interference made healthcare expensive.
My position is that the U.S. government is responsible for healthcare being so extraordinarily expensive.
The U.S. “health care cost crisis” didn’t start until 1965. The government increased demand with the passage of Medicare and Medicaid while restricting... | Yeah, I don't think anyone says that government interference makes prices go down.
What it does do is make prices more affordable though.
Through subsidies for the lower and middle classes, through capping of procedure costs, etc they make it so while the average price increases the cost to individuals tends to remai... | Just for clarity, are you arguing a historical fact, that the US Government is the primary cause of the %GDP cost of healthcare, or a more general point about high health care costs being caused by governments?
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CMV: In Avengers Endgame, Captain Marvel did not need help from the other Marvel women
In the movie, Spiderman gives Captain Marvel the gauntlet and says, "I don't know how you're going to get through all that." And then the women of Marvel come in and say, "Don't worry. She's got help." And then it shows some of them... | Are you talking about out-universe? Because if so, the reason behind that scene was pretty clear: it was an excuse to assemble all the female superheroes for a little crowd pleasing 10 second shot of them looking badass.
If you're talking about in-universe, sure, but this is just one of a million things throughout al... | Captain Marvel doesn't need help getting to the objective. Getting the Infinity Gauntlet there is a whole other issue.
The whole Infinity Gauntlet scene was a huge high stake escort mission. And if you ever played one of those in a video game, you know how much they can suck and how little being overpowered doesn't he... | gg1e8y | CMV: In Avengers Endgame, Captain Marvel did not need help from the other Marvel women | In the movie, Spiderman gives Captain Marvel the gauntlet and says, "I don't know how you're going to get through all that." And then the women of Marvel come in and say, "Don't worry. She's got help." And then it shows some of them taking down some of the enemy.
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CMV: Meat should be taxed, and the revenue should go towards subsidizing grains and vegetables.
I have eaten meat all my life, and was raised in rural Ohio and then in rural Texas. I really liked it, and up until several months ago I was eating bacon, eggs, and steak for breakfast all the time. I went vegan when it oc... | Grain subsidies have coincided with the explosion of obesity in the US. It hasn't led to people eating the healthy vegan diet you're describing, it's led to people eating tons of processed crap.
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There is nothing ethically wrong with eating meat. We are naturally omnivores.
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I'd being omnivores doesn't justify eating meat any more than having a dick doesn't justify raping women. Appeals to nature are weak. Actually... | 5uwcr4 | CMV: Meat should be taxed, and the revenue should go towards subsidizing grains and vegetables. | I have eaten meat all my life, and was raised in rural Ohio and then in rural Texas. I really liked it, and up until several months ago I was eating bacon, eggs, and steak for breakfast all the time. I went vegan when it occurred to me that my meals became more interesting and delicious, and my body felt really good af... | the_magic_gardener | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Owning a gun doesn't actually makes you safer.
I admit that there is the theoretical possibility that you would be able to defend yourself from a criminal better than you would be without a gun. I'm pretty sure that chance for this is laughably low, but it could happen. My view is that this possibility isn't enou... | >IMy view is that this possibility isn't enough to balance the following things that increase the danger you are in if you own a gun:
So my response is going to be kind of neutered for CMV because, on the surface, I agree with your overall point. I'm an avid gun owner but I don't carry and I don't feel that the presen... | Surely this is situational?
If you're a soldier say, and you're expected to charge into armed enemy formations you'd be safer with a gun. As a police officer chasing a serial killer you'd be safer with a gun.
Let me give you another example. I know a guy whose father raped him, whose father is dangerous when drunk an... | 6ayywm | CMV: Owning a gun doesn't actually makes you safer. | I admit that there is the theoretical possibility that you would be able to defend yourself from a criminal better than you would be without a gun. I'm pretty sure that chance for this is laughably low, but it could happen. My view is that this possibility isn't enough to balance the following things that increase the ... | BlitzBasic | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: a gun buyback would give power to the rich
I believe that the government is pretty much controlled by the rich and powerful and that the people deserve certain freedoms from the government.
I also believe that more guns = more avoidable deaths, and therefore we need some kind of gun control, but a gun buyback se... | How would a voluntary buy back give power to the rich? If someone is poor and doesn’t want to give up their gun they don’t have to, but they have the option to turn the gun in for money if they want to.
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True, but the money means more to a poor person than a rich person, so most of the people who volunteered to gi... | From what I understand, if the rich can keep them (legally) then it's voluntary, and if it's not, the rich can't keep them either (legally). So this really doesn't seem like a problem. (My country doesn't allow civilian firearms, so please be patient if I misunderstand )
The worrisome thing is that they may keep them ... | e9gali | CMV: a gun buyback would give power to the rich | I believe that the government is pretty much controlled by the rich and powerful and that the people deserve certain freedoms from the government.
I also believe that more guns = more avoidable deaths, and therefore we need some kind of gun control, but a gun buyback seems like it would mean that only rich people coul... | phineaspotter | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't understand the motivations of women who want to dress up extra sexy but don't want sexual attention.
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Hi. Straight guy here. I live in a very crowded urban/metropolitan area and attend bars, clubs, and festivals with some frequency. As I said: straight guy. So kind of hard not to notice the rathe... | It’s all about consent. Women do not think the same as us guys do. Most women don’t associate everything with sex. They mainly just want to look pretty/cute and out dress other women. Or if they do want to dress that way for sexual attention, they only want it with guys (or women) they’re interested in. Not just anyone... | You appear to be mushing together "attract attention" and "get hit on." Someone can want to be looked at and not want to be hit on.
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Are those things realistically separable? Like if I bake some amazing pies and display them in my shop window, can I really blame folks for wanting to come in and buy them as oppos... | 9tfaeq | CMV: I don't understand the motivations of women who want to dress up extra sexy but don't want sexual attention. | ​
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CMV: Communist Ideals are Going Absolutely Nowhere Due to Those Currently Advocating for Them
I have plenty of Communist friends, and I very much sympathize with the beliefs and purported ideals of Communism. That said, Reddit discourse around Communism and even some of my personal conversations with self-proclaimed C... | or maybe, just maybe communism isn't going anywhere because it's a terrible economic model when set in practice.
I mean the comrades can shout all day that "real communism has never been tried" but the fact still stands that whenever it was tried in parts, it didn't create very lasting and pleasant results.
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Can you provide some examples of these Communist Ideals?
Can you also provide examples of those advocating for them?
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Browse some communist subreddits and you’ll basically see what I’m talking about. If you want exact examples, I’m way more interested in discussing t... | mz8jgr | CMV: Communist Ideals are Going Absolutely Nowhere Due to Those Currently Advocating for Them | I have plenty of Communist friends, and I very much sympathize with the beliefs and purported ideals of Communism. That said, Reddit discourse around Communism and even some of my personal conversations with self-proclaimed Communists have really shaken my belief in the system being at all practical. Even within their ... | Marlile | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Wearing socks inside-out is generally superior to wearing them conventionally.
Let me preface this by saying that there are obvious exceptions to this argument; socks with designs, socks where the seams can be seen (for example, tube socks while wearing shorts), etc. are not what I'm referring to in this post.
... | I could be wrong on this, but aren't the little nodes on the inside of the socks designed to absorb moisture from your sweating feet? The goal being that if your feet are cold the rest of you is going to be miserable.
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I'm not sure what nodes you're referring to, could you link a picture of them?
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The textur... | I can't say I've ever tried wearing them inside out. I'll get back to you.
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For what it's worth, if you buy quality socks, this probably isn't an issue. But if you're like me and cheap out on socks, it's pretty game changing. | 5uw52j | CMV: Wearing socks inside-out is generally superior to wearing them conventionally. | Let me preface this by saying that there are obvious exceptions to this argument; socks with designs, socks where the seams can be seen (for example, tube socks while wearing shorts), etc. are not what I'm referring to in this post.
I believe that for most socks, given that socks are generally not seen, it is signifi... | The_Vyso | 3 | 2 | [
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CMV: It's racist to treat black people using the word "Nigger" different than white people doing the same.
Let's first look at the definition of the word "racist" (found [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism)):
"Racism is discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity."
Now, to un... | Black people can say it because it's a word with historical context that has been used to discriminate against them. White people cannot use the word because they are the ones who have historically used it to discriminate black people.
There is nothing here being used against white people, or advantage black people. W... | Well firstly there's currently contention over the actual definition of racism, with some sociologists attempting to refine it to mean institutional racism as opposed to individual acts of prejudice.
Treating people differently for using the n-word is, when in the form of a syllogism, racist. However this entirely di... | 5uutr2 | CMV: It's racist to treat black people using the word "Nigger" different than white people doing the same. | Let's first look at the definition of the word "racist" (found [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism)):
"Racism is discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity."
Now, to understand my view we also have to look at the definition of the word "discrimination" (found [here](https://e... | BlitzBasic | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Doctors of this sub, I am losing trust in Medical Science. Change my view
To begin with, I am from India. I don't have any doctor friends or family with whom I can discuss these (even if I did, most doctors here believe in homeopathy and Ayurveda so you can understand how futile the conversation would be). Note, ... | There is a lot in your post and I’m going to answer it in a broader fashion.
First, medical science never claims to know everything. Nor, does it need to be 100% correct all the time to be valid. You seem to be taking the default position that unless “medical science” is true 100% of the time then my other idea over h... | Are you familiar with the concept of Apophenia?
In short, Apophenia is the tendancy to draw connections between unrelated things. Most often you see it referenced in things like gambling (I'm on a hot streak), conspiratorial thinking and other such bad behaviors. It is thought (likely) to be an evolutionarily benefici... | qelymv | CMV: Doctors of this sub, I am losing trust in Medical Science. Change my view | To begin with, I am from India. I don't have any doctor friends or family with whom I can discuss these (even if I did, most doctors here believe in homeopathy and Ayurveda so you can understand how futile the conversation would be). Note, just because I am losing trust in Medical Science doesn't necessarily mean I tru... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Outrage and Rioting Caused By George Floyd's Death is Completely Unreasonable and Simply a Way to Push the Narrative that All White Cops are Racist
I am sick and tired of acting like George Floyd was some sort of martyr, hero, or innocent man who was brutally murdered for no good reason. Or even that his roug... | >I am sick and tired of acting like George Floyd... was brutally murdered for no good reason.
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>I am not saying the way the police treated him was correct or proper conduct.
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>...who may not have deserved to die... | 1. The kind of racism that people are protesting is not so much racism at the level of individuals, but racism in major social institutions like our criminal justice system and police force as a whole. Subtract the death of George Floyd and you still have thousands of Black people being harmed or killed by police as a ... | hlp5fi | CMV: The Outrage and Rioting Caused By George Floyd's Death is Completely Unreasonable and Simply a Way to Push the Narrative that All White Cops are Racist | I am sick and tired of acting like George Floyd was some sort of martyr, hero, or innocent man who was brutally murdered for no good reason. Or even that his rough treatment was racially motivated. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying the way the police treated him was correct or proper conduct. However, to insinuate th... | AceFiveSuited | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The Outrage and Rioting Caused By George Floyd's Death is Completely Unreasonable and Simply a Way to Push the Narrative that All White Cops are Racist
I am sick and tired of acting like George Floyd was some sort of martyr, hero, or innocent man who was brutally murdered for no good reason. Or even that his roug... | >I am sick and tired of acting like George Floyd... was brutally murdered for no good reason.
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CMV: Philosophy as made by philosophers is unreliable for living life and for public policy, except as an artistic diversion.
Philosophy is generally not very useful in real life. People make lots of theories about the world and how stuff works and get paid to make such theories. Lots of figures like Foucault, Ludwig ... | Philosophy about how we should live has shaped how we deal with the real world for centuries. Science came from natural philosophy and what we count as science still relies upon standards set by philosophical thinking and arguments. I think it's unfair and a mistake to separate them and call philosophy useless when we ... | I am confused by the dichotomy you have created where philosophy is facing off against statistics. Philosophy is a very large subject encompassing most natural science as well as metaphysics and morality. It would be helpful if you were more clear on exactly what you are talking about.
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CMV: Homewreckers really aren’t that bad of people
I hear this fairly often that people blame the person that hooked up with someone knowing that someone is in a relationship. The single person has not made any commitment to anyone, they don’t have a promise or a relationship to maintain. It is never the responsibilit... | My fiancé was asked out by a woman this may. He politely declined and let her know he is engaged already.
She visited the shop he sold at again this november, asking him out again. He, again, declined and let her know he has a fiancée and that even if it was just "as friends", his fiancée (me) wouldn't feel comfortabl... | >I was never mad at the dude that hooked up with her.
What if you found out the guy targeted your SO, knowing she was in a relationship, and purposely attempted to turn her from you?
That's the definition of 'home-wrecker' I'm most familiar with - a person who genuinely wants to break up a relationship.
That does st... | e8ptaa | CMV: Homewreckers really aren’t that bad of people | I hear this fairly often that people blame the person that hooked up with someone knowing that someone is in a relationship. The single person has not made any commitment to anyone, they don’t have a promise or a relationship to maintain. It is never the responsibility of the single person to find out the status of the... | djacrylick | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Homewreckers really aren’t that bad of people
I hear this fairly often that people blame the person that hooked up with someone knowing that someone is in a relationship. The single person has not made any commitment to anyone, they don’t have a promise or a relationship to maintain. It is never the responsibilit... | I know a guy...let's call him 'Mac.' Mac is a vulture. He waits for couples to fight, and then swoops in, all understanding and supportive...always to the lady, you understand, never for the guy. Seems genuinely understanding, sympathetic, a great listener. And then, out comes his penis.
He's been doing this shit sin... | What if the homewrecker (or attempted homewrecker) is really persistent?
Before I got with my current long time SO, there was a girl that was trying to get with him for a while.
I entered the scene and things started getting serious, but she'd still find every opportunity to be at my boyfriend's place, to go into his... | e8ptaa | CMV: Homewreckers really aren’t that bad of people | I hear this fairly often that people blame the person that hooked up with someone knowing that someone is in a relationship. The single person has not made any commitment to anyone, they don’t have a promise or a relationship to maintain. It is never the responsibility of the single person to find out the status of the... | djacrylick | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Nihilists should always announce that they are nihilists before they argue for or against something.
The reason i have this opinion is because i believe it can be used as a crutch in arguments. If a nihilist is debating, saying that something should or should not (which would be weird for someone who thinks nothi... | Do you mind if I ask how you’re picturing this playing out? It seems like it would be kinda weird to me.
I’m picturing myself going into a thread on say, abortion. Someone says “People shouldn’t be allowed to murder babies”. Are you saying that if I’m a nihilist, I should say something along the lines of “Hello, I am... | It's easy once you recognize that nihilism is self\-contradictory.
If they reply with "well, I'm a nihilist so nothing matters," ask them if it matters that they're a nihilist. If it does matter that they are a nihilist, then, well, you can probably take it from there.
The same goes for the "nothing is true" respons... | 8i8k0d | CMV: Nihilists should always announce that they are nihilists before they argue for or against something. | The reason i have this opinion is because i believe it can be used as a crutch in arguments. If a nihilist is debating, saying that something should or should not (which would be weird for someone who thinks nothing matters) be that way, then if they are losing the argument the nihilist can just say "Well, actually i a... | Prince-Cola | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with young kids using the internet
Hey guys I'm 14 and constantly hear about how the internet is corrupting the youth and back in the day everyone went outside and that nobody should use the internet until you're 20, blah blah blah. Is access to the internet a civil right or something? Of c... | What part of your view are you open to changing?
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I'm open to changing my view that young kids should not be allowed online for whatever reason. I'm willing to change any part of my view that has good evidence to prove I was wrong.
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I don't think many people would argue that any internet use is bad except for... | Kids shouldn't be on the internet because you're all fucking annoying and an absolute nuisance.
You kids aren't even mature enough to be playing CoD multiplayer without proceeding to shout at your mics and cringe everyone to death with your squeaks.
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>You kids aren't even mature enough to be playing CoD multipla... | qegsn1 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with young kids using the internet | Hey guys I'm 14 and constantly hear about how the internet is corrupting the youth and back in the day everyone went outside and that nobody should use the internet until you're 20, blah blah blah. Is access to the internet a civil right or something? Of course not. But is it a valuable tool? Yes. I have heard a lot of... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Despite God’s will, it would be politically beneficial for Republicans to encourage abortions instead of restricting it.
*TLDR: Republicans protect politically unfavorable fetuses at the expense of their constituents and the party’s existence.*
Demographics of those who get abortions is the key factor fo... | Republican opposition to abortion is a cornerstone of their Southern Strategy. The pro-life position is an appeal to Christian voters, and many Christians feel so strongly about it that they are essentially single-issue voters. Suddenly becoming pro-choice would force Christians to vote based on economic and social iss... | Why would Republicans want less crime and fewer people in need of welfare? A good chunk of their campaign is being "tough on crime" and opposing "welfare queens who steal from hard-working 'murricans" and shit like that. If their current voters didn't see any examples of these two groups, they may stop voting.
Besides... | hlnvfh | CMV: Despite God’s will, it would be politically beneficial for Republicans to encourage abortions instead of restricting it. | *TLDR: Republicans protect politically unfavorable fetuses at the expense of their constituents and the party’s existence.*
Demographics of those who get abortions is the key factor for this view. In several red states, [Blacks get the majority of abortions, and if not the majority, they still obtain a disprop... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If the Terminology of a Political Movement isn't working, change it!
I am posting this after seeing another post of feminists and non-feminists debating the definition of "toxic masculinity." Full disclosure, I am a male.
One big problem I have with social movement is their failure to re-brand. Just looking at t... | This can be used to continually force a particular ideology to spend all its time coming up with new terms for everything.
If someone doesn't like your ideas, they can easily say they just don't like your words. And they can keep doing that forever, because the ideas will still be there.
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While I understand what... | Words don't necessarily mean what you want them to mean. Words mean what they are understood to mean. Therefore, it is the listener who ultimately controls the meaning of words, not the speaker.
This is why Philosophy/Rhetoric/Debate has the Principle of Charity - that listeners should attempt to give the benefit of ... | 8i8jj7 | CMV: If the Terminology of a Political Movement isn't working, change it! | I am posting this after seeing another post of feminists and non-feminists debating the definition of "toxic masculinity." Full disclosure, I am a male.
One big problem I have with social movement is their failure to re-brand. Just looking at the example above, we can see how many terms that are used by social movemen... | asw7412 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: For us in the thirld world, the US is much scarier than China these days
Ok so first off this isn't a thing about how China is great and the US sucks, of course not, it it where I would be writing this in chinese and posting it on weibo. I really like the US and I consider myself pretty close to their culture, th... | The fact that you can point to specific examples of US moral failures but have to say “difficult to know” with regards to China, should tell you everything you need to know.
Not to mention, China has been militarily expanding into the Pacific Ocean, and Chinese troops have been routinely engaging with Indian troops o... | [deleted]
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I live happily in a third world country with no intention of moving. I don't see what the relation to the post is.
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[deleted] | qecj4k | CMV: For us in the thirld world, the US is much scarier than China these days | Ok so first off this isn't a thing about how China is great and the US sucks, of course not, it it where I would be writing this in chinese and posting it on weibo. I really like the US and I consider myself pretty close to their culture, that's why I want my views changed on this subject.
Here's the thing, looking fr... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People often attribute racism to Donald Trump when there is no strong evidence for it.
One of the most common accusations of racism against Trump has to do with his animus towards Barack Obama. I have seen a lot of this today in the discussion of Trump repealing the Iran deal.
The narrative goes like this: Trum... | This is going to be a hard one, in part because there is no universally accepted understanding of what it means to "be racist," but especially because there is not universally accepted *evidence* for a person's alleged racism. I think in part because to many people "racist" means something almost synonymous with "monst... | >Trump appears to be an equal-opportunity offender, and he uses the same viscous tactics against white and non-white opponents alike.
Which white candidate did he target with questions about their birth and citizenship?
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As I mentioned in the post, he did this with Cruz:
https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/22/politics/... | 8i72gq | CMV: People often attribute racism to Donald Trump when there is no strong evidence for it. | One of the most common accusations of racism against Trump has to do with his animus towards Barack Obama. I have seen a lot of this today in the discussion of Trump repealing the Iran deal.
The narrative goes like this: Trump is so mad that the first black president made this historic deal that he did this mostly ou... | [deleted] | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There is no good purpose for birthright citizenship today.
EDIT: The subject of this thread is birthright citizenship in the US
At the time the 14th amendment was drafted, there was an ongoing debate about whether formerly enslaved people counted as citizens. Southern states did not want ex-slaves to vote, so th... | The US citizenship process is detrimentally difficult. My aunt came to this country when she was 26, and received a full scholarship at a reputable university for a Ph.D. She worked every day during her 5 year Ph.D. program as a part time assistant professor. After graduating she received offers from multiple companies... | What would you have done with children who were born and grew up in this country, if not make them citizens? Eject them to a country they likely have no real connection to? Even if they have no family there and don’t speak the language?
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Do you believe kids of people living here with visas are being ejected from ... | 9td4oh | CMV: There is no good purpose for birthright citizenship today. | EDIT: The subject of this thread is birthright citizenship in the US
At the time the 14th amendment was drafted, there was an ongoing debate about whether formerly enslaved people counted as citizens. Southern states did not want ex-slaves to vote, so they fought tooth and nail to keep them from it. [This is why the 1... | math_murderer88 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The average man has it harder than the average woman in online dating.
I was speaking to someone on Reddit the other day that disagreed with this. Unfortunately, the thread got deleted before I could explore it more. Please discuss this with me if you disagree and think it's equal between both or harder for women... | Having things "harder" is a very subjective concept.
Men "have it harder" in that they feel a need to message lots of women randomly.
Women have it harder because they receive huge numbers of messages, many of which are extremely crude and unwanted.
Men may have a harder time finding someone with whom to have sex ... | My female friends and I once talked about this.
They said that they got more messages but a massive amount of them were just for sex or a one night stand.
They also said that to find one decent guy they had to filter through a lot of crap.
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That confirms that women get to be picky and men don't though, doesn'... | 5uq2am | CMV: The average man has it harder than the average woman in online dating. | I was speaking to someone on Reddit the other day that disagreed with this. Unfortunately, the thread got deleted before I could explore it more. Please discuss this with me if you disagree and think it's equal between both or harder for women. Let's assume the age is 18-30 because that is the extent of my knowledge (a... | ijustneedanametouse | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The average man has it harder than the average woman in online dating.
I was speaking to someone on Reddit the other day that disagreed with this. Unfortunately, the thread got deleted before I could explore it more. Please discuss this with me if you disagree and think it's equal between both or harder for women... | Having things "harder" is a very subjective concept.
Men "have it harder" in that they feel a need to message lots of women randomly.
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Men may have a harder time finding someone with whom to have sex ... | My female friends and I once talked about this.
They said that they got more messages but a massive amount of them were just for sex or a one night stand.
They also said that to find one decent guy they had to filter through a lot of crap.
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CMV: The average man has it harder than the average woman in online dating.
I was speaking to someone on Reddit the other day that disagreed with this. Unfortunately, the thread got deleted before I could explore it more. Please discuss this with me if you disagree and think it's equal between both or harder for women... | Having things "harder" is a very subjective concept.
Men "have it harder" in that they feel a need to message lots of women randomly.
Women have it harder because they receive huge numbers of messages, many of which are extremely crude and unwanted.
Men may have a harder time finding someone with whom to have sex ... | Worst case scenario for the guy is he gets rejected. Worse case scenario for the woman is she gets murdered, and her skin is worn as a mask.
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Worst case scenario for a guy is that he gets murdered and his face worn as a skin. Nothing is stopping a woman from shooting a man or biting his dick off. If you can make r... | 5uq2am | CMV: The average man has it harder than the average woman in online dating. | I was speaking to someone on Reddit the other day that disagreed with this. Unfortunately, the thread got deleted before I could explore it more. Please discuss this with me if you disagree and think it's equal between both or harder for women. Let's assume the age is 18-30 because that is the extent of my knowledge (a... | ijustneedanametouse | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The average man has it harder than the average woman in online dating.
I was speaking to someone on Reddit the other day that disagreed with this. Unfortunately, the thread got deleted before I could explore it more. Please discuss this with me if you disagree and think it's equal between both or harder for women... | Having things "harder" is a very subjective concept.
Men "have it harder" in that they feel a need to message lots of women randomly.
Women have it harder because they receive huge numbers of messages, many of which are extremely crude and unwanted.
Men may have a harder time finding someone with whom to have sex ... | * I don't know where you got your stats, but Surveymonkey [says](https://medium.com/@sm_app_intel/conquer-love-with-these-crucial-dating-app-statistics-2870ec5493cd#.x1x177xvb) women make up at least 40% of the non-niche sites and almost 60% on coffee meets bagel.
* Reddit is a male dominated site, so of course most ... | 5uq2am | CMV: The average man has it harder than the average woman in online dating. | I was speaking to someone on Reddit the other day that disagreed with this. Unfortunately, the thread got deleted before I could explore it more. Please discuss this with me if you disagree and think it's equal between both or harder for women. Let's assume the age is 18-30 because that is the extent of my knowledge (a... | ijustneedanametouse | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Any type of sexuality that's not heterosexual is a mental disability.
My view is that all sexualities that are not heterosexual ( Examples being homosexuality,transexuality,asexuality), are all technically mental disabilities.
My reason for this view is that the general consensus on what makes someone not het... | I think you're wrong on both counts. It's not "mental" and it's not a "disability". I think you've chosen a deliberately demeaning term.
To call it "mental" implies that it's something that we can change with a little talk therapy. As you've noted there is a biological component that's probably a mix of nature and ... | >however I believe that something that's so severe that it prevents the biological organism to not have a desire to mate with the opposite sex and reproduce, should count as a disability by every means.
So, menopause is a disability?
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Technically yes, I guess, since it is disabling the ability to reproduce.
---... | 9tce9u | CMV: Any type of sexuality that's not heterosexual is a mental disability. | My view is that all sexualities that are not heterosexual ( Examples being homosexuality,transexuality,asexuality), are all technically mental disabilities.
My reason for this view is that the general consensus on what makes someone not heterosexual is a result of nature (Determined before birth), therefore it's in... | Yazzy01 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: School prior to university should start at 10 AM
School should be from 9:30/10 AM - 3:30 rather than 8 AM - 3. Yes, school would be an hour shorter, but the increased cognitive performance of awake, alert students would more than make up for it.
Kids shouldn’t have to sleep less and sometimes skip breakfast... | Increasing the amount of buses doesn’t cover all of the concerns of parents who have to go to work.
Who watches the kid between parent leaving for work and the kid leaving? Would the kid be able to/remember to lock up? Who watches the kids while they wait for the bus (I guess you could station cops/volunteers)? Who m... | Where do you live?
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Grew up in the United States but live in the EU. Why?
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Some places do start at 10, some start at 9 and some even earlier than 8.
Also lots of people join the work force right after school and dont go to higher education.
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Yeah there’s places experimenting with later starts and resul... | e96m4q | CMV: School prior to university should start at 10 AM | School should be from 9:30/10 AM - 3:30 rather than 8 AM - 3. Yes, school would be an hour shorter, but the increased cognitive performance of awake, alert students would more than make up for it.
Kids shouldn’t have to sleep less and sometimes skip breakfast/ showers to show up to school at 8 AM. Some kids even ... | thedirewulf | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: A man shouldn't have to pay child support for a child he didn't want
I take the following as a given: a man has no business telling a woman whether she can terminate her pregnancy. Even if it's his sperm, she gets to make the decision regardless of his desires. If she doesn't want the baby, the man can go jump in... | >But if the man doesn't want the baby, he shouldn't be held responsible for child support. The woman gets to make the decision because of her rights over her own body. But the man shouldn't be forced to accept the long-term, life-changing consequences of her rights.
Child support is not for the woman, it's for the *ch... | I mostly agree with your stance. However I still believe the man should atleast help in out some manner.
The entire process of conception to birth almost has no physical effect on men. The moment you've ejaculated it all becomes a burden on the women. Even if you don't want the child, the women still has to go through... | 8i7rdq | CMV: A man shouldn't have to pay child support for a child he didn't want | I take the following as a given: a man has no business telling a woman whether she can terminate her pregnancy. Even if it's his sperm, she gets to make the decision regardless of his desires. If she doesn't want the baby, the man can go jump in the lake. I'm on board with that.
But if the man doesn't want the... | GreatBigBore | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: giving children puberty blockers to allow them to change gender as adults is comparable to allowing anorexics to fit a gastric band.
***EDIT:*** **view changed; deltas awarded** ∆ can't change post flair for some reason...
[I read this article today](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/10/transgender-girl... | People with body dysmorphic syndrome will never be satisfied. They always need more because they can't see correctly. You give them a nose job, they need another. And another like Michael Jackson's nose. You help them lose weight and they still feel fat and need to lose more weight. Etc - you can't just get them w... | \> I think children aged 3 years do not truly know what they think, need or want,
The person involved here is 12, not 3. Theyve consistently wanted to be a girl since 3 but they werent given blockers until they were 12.
\> In both cases their perception of themselves differs from reality. The former is treated as nor... | e97sir | CMV: giving children puberty blockers to allow them to change gender as adults is comparable to allowing anorexics to fit a gastric band. | ***EDIT:*** **view changed; deltas awarded** ∆ can't change post flair for some reason...
[I read this article today](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/10/transgender-girl-12-starts-puberty-blockersas-mother-says-knew/) and found it very sad.
I think children aged 3 years do not truly know what they think, ... | Brizzo7 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: USA population shouldn't be naming their country 'America'
Have you ever listened 'America is the greatest country'? So here's the thing: it's not a country but a entire Continent. América is a large continent, and it's divided by 3 big zones: South America, Central America and North America. So here's goes the q... | Few things:
* You have demonyms and names for countries in Spanish that differ from how other countries describe themselves in their native language, correct? So, why is it the case that we’re not allowed to refer to ourselves *in English* as Americans as a term exclusive for citizens of the USA?
* In the US, “Americ... | USA literally stands for United States of America.
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It should be United States of North America, and it would be wrong anyway, because Canada have nothing to do with that.
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Ehh semantics | e976ru | CMV: USA population shouldn't be naming their country 'America' | Have you ever listened 'America is the greatest country'? So here's the thing: it's not a country but a entire Continent. América is a large continent, and it's divided by 3 big zones: South America, Central America and North America. So here's goes the question: why a big quantity of people in the United States keep n... | machape_ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: USA population shouldn't be naming their country 'America'
Have you ever listened 'America is the greatest country'? So here's the thing: it's not a country but a entire Continent. América is a large continent, and it's divided by 3 big zones: South America, Central America and North America. So here's goes the q... | Few things:
* You have demonyms and names for countries in Spanish that differ from how other countries describe themselves in their native language, correct? So, why is it the case that we’re not allowed to refer to ourselves *in English* as Americans as a term exclusive for citizens of the USA?
* In the US, “Americ... | It's two continents (Central America is part of North America) and what else would we call ourselves? United Statesians sounds stupid and there are plenty of countries with United States in their name. Like our neighbor Mexico. But there are no other countries with America in the name.
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América was named by the ... | e976ru | CMV: USA population shouldn't be naming their country 'America' | Have you ever listened 'America is the greatest country'? So here's the thing: it's not a country but a entire Continent. América is a large continent, and it's divided by 3 big zones: South America, Central America and North America. So here's goes the question: why a big quantity of people in the United States keep n... | machape_ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It was a mistake for The Conversation to ban climate change denialism on their platform, because it backfired.
A few days ago, I had a long debate with a climate change denier on r/climatechange. [He claimed](https://np.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/hjop9s/how_can_we_manufacture_consent_for_climate_action/f... | Should they also be open to debate about the roundness of the earth? Whether or not gravity is real? Whether or not kittens exist?
How far down the rabbit hole of bad premises should we go before deciding "this is silly"
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> Should they also be open to debate about the roundness of the earth? Whether or not gr... | You're basing your interpretation of The Conversation's action solely upon what one climate change denier says. Of course, they are going to use anything they csn to justify limate change denial.
But that doesn't mean they're right.
Maybe, if the conversation hadn't banned Denialism, they'd be citing it as a source ... | hlir8e | CMV: It was a mistake for The Conversation to ban climate change denialism on their platform, because it backfired. | A few days ago, I had a long debate with a climate change denier on r/climatechange. [He claimed](https://np.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/hjop9s/how_can_we_manufacture_consent_for_climate_action/fwohqwv?context=100) that media (especially with [*The Conversation* banning climate change denial](https://www.theaus... | Real_Carl_Ramirez | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Gun Owners Whose Lost/Stolen Guns Are Used In Violent Crimes Should Be Potentially Held Liable
Only 1/5 violent crimes that involved a firearm committed in America are done so with a gun that was "legally" obtained. That leaves 80%, of which 13% were PURCHASED illegally from an offending gun shop / pawn shop. The... | "appropriately protected" is a rather flexible idea that is unenforceable because it is undefinable.
What is reasonable to you may not be enough for others and visa versa.
If I lock my door, is that reasonable? How about home alarm? How about if it gets stolen while on my person? If I hide the gun, use a gun lock, ca... | How exactly should they be held liable? Civil negligence like your pool scenario?
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Frankly I personally believe it should be criminal negligence, akin to involuntary manslaughter, but I recognize that that is an extreme view. Civil negligence would be a good place to start.
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How would you explain proximate c... | 9tb29z | CMV: Gun Owners Whose Lost/Stolen Guns Are Used In Violent Crimes Should Be Potentially Held Liable | Only 1/5 violent crimes that involved a firearm committed in America are done so with a gun that was "legally" obtained. That leaves 80%, of which 13% were PURCHASED illegally from an offending gun shop / pawn shop. The remainder were either found or stolen and their original source are so-called "responsible gun owner... | LonelyNess1990 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I think male prisoners in danger of being victimized by other male prisoners should be placed in a third, separate place.
I'm specifically talking about trans women, but I wanted to make the title open to show I'm not singling them out. We know that they are at higher risk of being assaulted in prison, but I don'... | I think such prisoners are often put in solitary confinement for their own protection, at present. Does that meet your criteria for a "separate place?" It is very unpleasant but it is undeniably separate, no?
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I was talking about this with some other commenter, solitary confinements is often called inhumane, that'... | I clicked through to your link and all of the articles are from right wing "news" sources stemming from an anti-trans organization that reported a single instance of pregnancy in the prison. Is there more? Something I'm missing?
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The stat op quotes is real its just that what they don't mention is the sample size i... | qe4x5l | CMV: I think male prisoners in danger of being victimized by other male prisoners should be placed in a third, separate place. | I'm specifically talking about trans women, but I wanted to make the title open to show I'm not singling them out. We know that they are at higher risk of being assaulted in prison, but I don't think we should be placing trans women in women's prison either. There's one issue that with no hard barriers to being accepte... | RedFanKr | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It’s hypocritical to believe that a prom dress is cultural appropriation but the 2018 MET Gala isn’t.
I just watched the 2018 MET Gala line inspired by religion (combined with pictures of celebrities dressed ornately as church representatives) and I don’t believe there’s any way to reconcile the support for a rel... | Some of the people wearing those clothes would come from that religion (or Christianity at least) and so their use of the iconography would not be appropriative. The issues with regards to appropriation are generally based on existing power structures and the Christian church is a powerful cultural body in the west.
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That's an interesting way of thinking about it. I consider it a response. How do you feel about u/milskidasith 's explanation of how appropriation perpetuates a muddied version of a culture? I think there is something to be said for adoption and mixing of cultures promoting awareness and being a fundame... | 8i5pof | CMV: It’s hypocritical to believe that a prom dress is cultural appropriation but the 2018 MET Gala isn’t. | I just watched the 2018 MET Gala line inspired by religion (combined with pictures of celebrities dressed ornately as church representatives) and I don’t believe there’s any way to reconcile the support for a religion inspired fashion line with somebody’s prom dress becoming a target for hate.
I get that the Gala is ... | trillofhearts | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Anyone that thinks that voice actors resigning because of race is a good thing should also support making the cast of Hamilton all white in future
Like I said in the title, there are quite a few voice actors recently who've resigned or stopped playing a specific character in a show because the character is a poc ... | The situation is hypocritical only if we assume that the motivation behind the actions is "every author should play their own race".
If we assume another motivation, namely "POC have historically been mis- and underrepresented in media" then there is no hypocrisy.
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That is a decent point but the main issue I have... | you’re acting like anyone is being fired... they quit the roles and that was their reasoning lol it was their personal choice going with how they felt about it nothing else
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Nope I'm not, I'm saying that people that agree with the decisions or celebrate them are being hypocritical
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How are they being hypocrit... | hlioxe | CMV: Anyone that thinks that voice actors resigning because of race is a good thing should also support making the cast of Hamilton all white in future | Like I said in the title, there are quite a few voice actors recently who've resigned or stopped playing a specific character in a show because the character is a poc and they aren't. Personally I'd very much disagree with the idea behind this because their entire job is to *act* and being able to sound like someone of... | CallumPenguin | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: American tip-shaming is senseless and immoral - these people should respect freedom.
I’m moving to the US and I will not tip. It’s not wrong and it’s not rude.
Tipping waiters is inconsistent and unnecessary. Do you tip grocery store workers? Pot washers? Fast food workers? All other low paid workers you come in... | Plenty of workers get paid by commission, why is it a problem when it is a waiter?
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Because for whatever reason some people have a problem with choosing what to give for services. I would rather pay my server with a nice tip rather than have to pay more for my meal up front. | You’re expected to tip. That’s how servers get paid. They’re basically working for free if you don’t tip. The serving staff in other countries are paid by the restaurant and their salaries are added in to food prices. That doesn’t happen in the United States. Like the system or not, it’s a good way to motivate servers... | gfvux1 | CMV: American tip-shaming is senseless and immoral - these people should respect freedom. | I’m moving to the US and I will not tip. It’s not wrong and it’s not rude.
Tipping waiters is inconsistent and unnecessary. Do you tip grocery store workers? Pot washers? Fast food workers? All other low paid workers you come into contact with? Of course not.
You see people on Reddit say stupid things like “I always ... | 129za | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: American tip-shaming is senseless and immoral - these people should respect freedom.
I’m moving to the US and I will not tip. It’s not wrong and it’s not rude.
Tipping waiters is inconsistent and unnecessary. Do you tip grocery store workers? Pot washers? Fast food workers? All other low paid workers you come in... | You have to try to separate two things: "Is tipping a good system?" vs "Should you tip in the US?" In fact, I agree that tipping is a stupid system. We're going to largely agree on that.
But like it or not, tipping IS the system that the majority of US restaurants use. Given that, talks about minimum wage, whether it ... | You’re expected to tip. That’s how servers get paid. They’re basically working for free if you don’t tip. The serving staff in other countries are paid by the restaurant and their salaries are added in to food prices. That doesn’t happen in the United States. Like the system or not, it’s a good way to motivate servers... | gfvux1 | CMV: American tip-shaming is senseless and immoral - these people should respect freedom. | I’m moving to the US and I will not tip. It’s not wrong and it’s not rude.
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CMV: American tip-shaming is senseless and immoral - these people should respect freedom.
I’m moving to the US and I will not tip. It’s not wrong and it’s not rude.
Tipping waiters is inconsistent and unnecessary. Do you tip grocery store workers? Pot washers? Fast food workers? All other low paid workers you come in... | You’re expected to tip. That’s how servers get paid. They’re basically working for free if you don’t tip. The serving staff in other countries are paid by the restaurant and their salaries are added in to food prices. That doesn’t happen in the United States. Like the system or not, it’s a good way to motivate servers... | The federal minimum wage in the United States for tipped workers is currently $2.13/hour. The federal minimum wage for all other workers is currently $7.25/hour. Some states have higher minimum wages, these are the FEDERALLY MANDATED rates.
I do agree that tipped employees SHOULD be paid at least the federal minimum ... | gfvux1 | CMV: American tip-shaming is senseless and immoral - these people should respect freedom. | I’m moving to the US and I will not tip. It’s not wrong and it’s not rude.
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CMV: A Baker should be allowed to refuse to cater a wedding with "inappropriate age difference" (e.g 60 year old man and 18 year old girl)
I asked this question in a previous post, and wanted to open up the discussion.
For those non\-Americans among us, this is in a reference to a pending [case](https://en.wikipedia.... | The issue I see with this is that there is a binary choice to make. Either we consider that a baker's job is to bake cakes in exchange for money, or we consider that they can pick the people who are worthy of their art.
I don't think there is a possible relevant middle ground here. Having to justify of a certain kind ... | Just for clarification: If money \> identity in capitalist America, why would the baker be concerned with the identity \(including age\) of the buyer?
You might be making the assumption that there are options for people who are discriminated against even if one service provider does not provide the service. Isn't it p... | 8i4hpt | CMV: A Baker should be allowed to refuse to cater a wedding with "inappropriate age difference" (e.g 60 year old man and 18 year old girl) | I asked this question in a previous post, and wanted to open up the discussion.
For those non\-Americans among us, this is in a reference to a pending [case](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission) before the supreme court regarding whether a bakery owned by devout Chris... | toybees | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: No symbols should ever be banned.
No one owns a symbol, no matter what they do, because a symbol is just an idea, and ideas by definition, don't physically exist. See the swastika, for example, it should never had been banned anywhere, this was just done to pander to the feelings of the people. There is no logica... | >a symbol is just an idea, and ideas by definition, don't exist
Uh, ideas exist; they are not tangible, physical things, but they are concepts held by people that influence how they think, feel, and act.
>There is no logical reasons to ban any symbol just emotional ones
If you are using logic, then you must account ... | But people *are* emotional whether you like it or not.
Either you account for that and come up with solutions to problems or you ignore it and fail to accomplish anything because you are planning for a fantasy world where people are rational, not reality.
Symbols are a powerful means of propaganda and recruitment,
ba... | 5umy6d | CMV: No symbols should ever be banned. | No one owns a symbol, no matter what they do, because a symbol is just an idea, and ideas by definition, don't physically exist. See the swastika, for example, it should never had been banned anywhere, this was just done to pander to the feelings of the people. There is no logical reasons to ban any symbol just emotion... | Garlicplanet | 3 | 3 | [
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No one owns a symbol, no matter what they do, because a symbol is just an idea, and ideas by definition, don't physically exist. See the swastika, for example, it should never had been banned anywhere, this was just done to pander to the feelings of the people. There is no logica... | But people *are* emotional whether you like it or not.
Either you account for that and come up with solutions to problems or you ignore it and fail to accomplish anything because you are planning for a fantasy world where people are rational, not reality.
Symbols are a powerful means of propaganda and recruitment,
ba... | >because a symbol is just an idea, and ideas by definition, don't physically exist.
Ah but they persist! Sure if you drop a nazi flag into a caveman's hands he won't know what it means, but it will always be intrinsically linked to the history behind the people who USED that symbol to mean something. That's not emotio... | 5umy6d | CMV: No symbols should ever be banned. | No one owns a symbol, no matter what they do, because a symbol is just an idea, and ideas by definition, don't physically exist. See the swastika, for example, it should never had been banned anywhere, this was just done to pander to the feelings of the people. There is no logical reasons to ban any symbol just emotion... | Garlicplanet | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There are too many religions for me to be religious.
I want to experience what it feels like to be religious. I want to experiment and see if my life gets any better by worshipping a god. However, I find that I don't know which religion to start from, there are simply too many. All have different beliefs. There a... | So what's stopping you from just picking one, seeing if you like it, and trying another if you don't?
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Considering how many religions there are and how huge they are, do you think there is enough time to do this?
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I think you're getting hung up on the idea that since only one religion can be entirely true (at... | [deleted]
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That's a little incongruous because countries don't normally claim that they're the One True Country and that all other countries are not to be believed in.
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[deleted] | 7l9j9s | CMV: There are too many religions for me to be religious. | I want to experience what it feels like to be religious. I want to experiment and see if my life gets any better by worshipping a god. However, I find that I don't know which religion to start from, there are simply too many. All have different beliefs. There are monotheistic, pantheistic, there are religions where you... | PM_ME_YOUR_GIANT_BOB | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There are too many religions for me to be religious.
I want to experience what it feels like to be religious. I want to experiment and see if my life gets any better by worshipping a god. However, I find that I don't know which religion to start from, there are simply too many. All have different beliefs. There a... | > I've found that a lot of philosophers found peace by believing in a god
Yes, but because they were born into a given religion, and they kept to themselves a set of beliefs that were reassuring to them.
You can't use the logical part of your brain to force illogical troughs in your mind, at least non without damage... | To be clear, you're an atheist who feels like dabbling? In that case, I would suggest a religion that believes in conversion. I imagine other religions might find you treating their religion as a thought experiment to be distasteful.
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Correct. Not only dabbling, but finding the truth is the main objective here. I'... | 7l9j9s | CMV: There are too many religions for me to be religious. | I want to experience what it feels like to be religious. I want to experiment and see if my life gets any better by worshipping a god. However, I find that I don't know which religion to start from, there are simply too many. All have different beliefs. There are monotheistic, pantheistic, there are religions where you... | PM_ME_YOUR_GIANT_BOB | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: transwomen are not female
I am a feminist. I have always recognised a distinction between sex and gender. Sex is a biological categorisation; human beings are either male or female (with a statistically negligible number of exceptions). Gender is a social construct; a set of characteristics, expectations and beha... | >with a statistically negligible number of exceptions).
Ah and here we have it. So you agree, that there are variations from the norm? The norm being male and female.
What do you think is statistically negligible number when it comes to 7.5 Billions of people? 1%, well that's 75 million. 0.1%? well that's still 7 50... | > Sex is a biological categorisation; human beings are either male or female (with a statistically negligible number of exceptions).
The "intersex people are statistically negligible so I will act like they don't exist" argument.
Depending on your breadth of definition, the prevalence of intersex traits is between a... | 7l8gvf | CMV: transwomen are not female | I am a feminist. I have always recognised a distinction between sex and gender. Sex is a biological categorisation; human beings are either male or female (with a statistically negligible number of exceptions). Gender is a social construct; a set of characteristics, expectations and behaviours we associate with either ... | olatundew | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: drawbacks of Planned Obsolescence are much more significant than its possible advantages & such strategy is impermissible in the long run
Planned obsolescence is a dominating policy in designing of technology products (in broad sense: laptops, phones, earbuds, cars, vacuums, mincers, washers etc.), which is purpo... | >which is purposed to make the product broken and irreparable in planned time to stimulate consumption
With what frequency does this actually happen? How do we know when a company is intentionally reducing a product's estimated life versus just not going for the highest quality (and thus most expensive) design?
I am ... | One problem in confirming this is that we've transitioned as a society from more durable but less intelligent tech to less durable but much more intelligent. Example: my grandparent's Maytag washer they got iirc when they were married in the 70's still works. It has survived being moved, washing clothes for a family of... | gfrt8d | CMV: drawbacks of Planned Obsolescence are much more significant than its possible advantages & such strategy is impermissible in the long run | Planned obsolescence is a dominating policy in designing of technology products (in broad sense: laptops, phones, earbuds, cars, vacuums, mincers, washers etc.), which is purposed to make the product broken and irreparable in planned time to stimulate consumption.
Stimulating consumption is generally good as it stimul... | Illustrious_Sock | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Tau is greater than pi
For the uninitiated, read [The Tau Manifesto](https://tauday.com/tau-manifesto). The [parable](https://tauday.com/a-parable) is also amusing and illustrative.
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I believe that tau is the logical choice for a circle constant, not pi. A circle's essential feature is its radius, not its di... | I've heard this argument a lot, and while I believe that you do make good on some of the standard arguments for tau, I think there are a few things that you really need to consider with regards to this transition.
> Some mathematicians will say that, for any meaningful math, it doesn't matter if the constant differs ... | Pi is better because it sounds like pie and pie's tend to be round. Thus Pi > Tau in terms of humour.
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Is humor a well-ordered set? Regardless, I will give you an ε for making me think.
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Is that an epsilon? I'm kinda offended. | 5umbwz | CMV: Tau is greater than pi | For the uninitiated, read [The Tau Manifesto](https://tauday.com/tau-manifesto). The [parable](https://tauday.com/a-parable) is also amusing and illustrative.
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I believe that tau is the logical choice for a circle constant, not pi. A circle's essential feature is its radius, not its diameter, and the circle consta... | YahwehTheDevil | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Because drywall screws exist, there is no reason to buy brass wood screws for basic carpentry.
For basic carpentry (putting up shelves, building a theatrical set, knocking together a picnic table, etc.) phillips-head, coarse-thread drywall screws seem to always be superior to brass "wood" screws. They are sharper... | Drywall screws are made from a more brittle metal and are more likely to break during installation.
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More likely to break, period. | "Because drywall screws exist, there is no reason to buy brass wood screws for basic carpentry.""convince me that brass\-colored wood screws deserve their shelf space in Lowe's."
It seems you've given a reason right within your own post:
"I can see that in some cases the color of a drywall screw might be a dealbreake... | 8i04mr | CMV: Because drywall screws exist, there is no reason to buy brass wood screws for basic carpentry. | For basic carpentry (putting up shelves, building a theatrical set, knocking together a picnic table, etc.) phillips-head, coarse-thread drywall screws seem to always be superior to brass "wood" screws. They are sharper, go in faster, don't generally strip, and are plenty strong for most applications. Brass "wood" scre... | fl33543 | 2 | 2 | [
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