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CMV: self defense should be allowed in schools
~~Self defense is one of the most important things that you can know. If you end up in a fight, knowing how to fight back can save your life in some cases.~~
~~So why do we get in trouble when we try to stand up to our bullies? This only benefits the bully himself, becau... | > Most schools have a policy that whenever you are bullied, you should report it to a teacher. However, not only is that not a real option in the real world, it often doesn't work
That sounds more anecdotal than anything. I know people who have had issues with bullying/harassment/assault and the administration took it... | Teaching self defense will just make kids want to use what they learn, and will make them feel like more capable fighters which isn't necessarily a good combination. And it also means any bully is getting the same training as the other kids, which, if they're physically bigger means it'll be as bad a situation as befor... | 6au8zc | CMV: self defense should be allowed in schools | ~~Self defense is one of the most important things that you can know. If you end up in a fight, knowing how to fight back can save your life in some cases.~~
~~So why do we get in trouble when we try to stand up to our bullies? This only benefits the bully himself, because now it takes more balls than it should to get... | ManMan36 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: You should wait until a Christmas to open Christmas cards
People open Christmas cards when and as they receive them, and yet only open Christmas gifts (excluding work functions) on Christmas Day (or eve if you’re Southern European).
The average Christmas card says “Merry Christmas” and it doesn’t make sense to o... | Issues:
* Christmas cards are not always clearly identified as such. If you receive any other letters from those people, then it may be impossible to avoid opening a Christmas card (unless you count "seeing the front and then just not opening the card itself" as not opening it).
* Christmas cards aren't gifts, they're... | Many Christmas envelopes don't have return addresses. If I don't open them, I won't know who sent them, and I won't be able to send a card back on time, if they weren't already on my list.
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> I won't know who sent them, and I won't be able to send a card back on time.
True, although if you (general "You") didn't ... | 7l4vfo | CMV: You should wait until a Christmas to open Christmas cards | People open Christmas cards when and as they receive them, and yet only open Christmas gifts (excluding work functions) on Christmas Day (or eve if you’re Southern European).
The average Christmas card says “Merry Christmas” and it doesn’t make sense to open it before that day.
Cards should be treated as presents, wh... | Doingthescience | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We need to go back to directly voting for electors
So this is how I see it:
Do we directly vote for the laws of our country? No, because lawmaking is a complex process that the average American wouldn’t be able to do well on. Instead, we elect representatives and senators who are able to make laws effectively... | If We The People just simply cannot be trusted to pick such a powerful person, how could we be trusted to pick the people who pick such a powerful person? Isn't this the same thing with extra steps, and why wouldn't a person simply vote for an elector who runs on a promise to vote for the person they prefer? This is wh... | So you want the people even more removed from the democratic process? You really think thats the issue and not the fact they're unaccountable to us already?
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I think the modern day issue is having the worst of both worlds.
We have the worst of the electoral college: where there is no conversation or debate, i... | 1prithp | CMV: We need to go back to directly voting for electors | So this is how I see it:
Do we directly vote for the laws of our country? No, because lawmaking is a complex process that the average American wouldn’t be able to do well on. Instead, we elect representatives and senators who are able to make laws effectively and efficiently (or at least more efficiently than if ev... | LeftBroccoli6795 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Paying donors for plasma would help poor people not exploit them (Australia)
A common argument I hear for not paying people for plasma or organ donations is because it would exploit the poor, but I feel like that’s kinda backwards.
If someone’s broke, and they’re healthy, why not let them earn some cash by donat... | If someone is broke their best bet to not be broke is their good health. Taking away their good health for temporary gains to their funds isn't the solution. Just wait five years and see how healthy they are then. They'll be unhealthy, sickly and broke fairly quickly after a few years of donating plasma.
The differen... | >why not let them earn some cash by donating plasma once or twice a week?
Because there are still some risks to plasma donation and financial incentives don’t address the root problems of why poverty exists in the first place.
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When I donated plasma the machine couldn't pump any of my blood back in, I needed assi... | 1k3m0h5 | CMV: Paying donors for plasma would help poor people not exploit them (Australia) | A common argument I hear for not paying people for plasma or organ donations is because it would exploit the poor, but I feel like that’s kinda backwards.
If someone’s broke, and they’re healthy, why not let them earn some cash by donating plasma once or twice a week? We already screen donors super strictly. The donat... | MCOinky | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The internet should require a license to use. Like driving. Or owning a ferret.
Right now, an 11-year-old can Google “Is the Earth flat???” and, three hours later, genuinely believe that birds are government surveillance drones.
We require licenses for driving, owning exotic reptiles even cutting hair…
But not ... | >The difference between real journalism and “a guy with a podcast mic.”
Can people who host or appear on podcasts not be journalists?
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Sure, it’s a throwaway example. You get the idea.
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Just calling it a throwaway example ignores the point being made. How do you draw a line between "levels" of content? Even ... | How is not requiring a license to use the internet negligence?
Do you believe public libraries should require a license to use? Do you believe that going out in public and speaking with other people should require a license?
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Totally agree - the equivalent of going to a library shouldn’t be gated.
But you can’t... | 1k4dauq | CMV: The internet should require a license to use. Like driving. Or owning a ferret. | Right now, an 11-year-old can Google “Is the Earth flat???” and, three hours later, genuinely believe that birds are government surveillance drones.
We require licenses for driving, owning exotic reptiles even cutting hair…
But not for the most powerful, reality-warping, mind altering tool ever invented?
Why?
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CMV: Adblock is piracy
More precisely: using adblock to automatically block ads on most sites is piracy.
Piracy meaning the unauthorized access to legally protected software/art/work.
For example, you can either use Netflix for free during the trial, or by paying. Accessing Netflix content without one of those is pi... | Full disclosure: I pay for the ad free tiers of both Netflix and YouTube.
It's basic safe Internet practice. Drive-by ad malware is common, and Netflix/YouTube et al. do not take any legal liability for those attacks, despite profiting from it.
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The potential danger does not give you/me the right to violate the r... | >Piracy meaning the unauthorized access to legally protected software/art/work.
Does watching ads authorize you to watch content?
Accessing netflix without paying is piracy because their offer is contingent on you paying them. Accessing ad-free youtube is contingent on you paying them money, that makes it privacy.... | 1lke9g1 | CMV: Adblock is piracy | More precisely: using adblock to automatically block ads on most sites is piracy.
Piracy meaning the unauthorized access to legally protected software/art/work.
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Taking that to Yo... | Kyrond | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Most Pro Choice arguments are dishonest and are not convincing.
>What about rape and incest
Stastistically rare, and has no bearing on other cases.
>we need late term abortion because what if the Mother's life is in danger
Ok then legalise it for when the mother's life is in danger, not for that and also if yo... | >Ok then legalise it for when the mother's life is in danger, not for that and also if you change your mind
Thing is, any pregnancy carries a risk. If you legalize only in case of danger, then odds are at least some women will end up being killed. This has been the case in Ireland, for example.
https://www.breakingne... | > I think Abortion should only be allowed up to 18 weeks because it's a nessecery evil and only allowed for actual medical reasons (not my mental health, financial reasons)
Just so I understand where you are coming from, whats your cut off for acceptable abortions? You mentioning 18 weeks makes me assume that your cu... | b99pnj | CMV: Most Pro Choice arguments are dishonest and are not convincing. | >What about rape and incest
Stastistically rare, and has no bearing on other cases.
>we need late term abortion because what if the Mother's life is in danger
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>late term abortions are rare
so what? there's no... | Teakilla | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The Extent of Human Impact on Global Warming Has Not Been and Cannot Be Proven with Current Technology
I want to start off by saying that I am fully open to learning more about people’s beliefs regarding global warming and am willing to be convinced that we can measure significant *human impact* on global warming... | Do you have any sources that inform this view?
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In this context, the burden of proof is not on me to present sources defending my view, because I am not seeking to convince anyway of my view, merely state what my view is. The burden is on respondents to provide proof of their views if they wish to convince that my... | A lot of your points are confusing weather with climate. Weather is the day to day occurrence that you get on the news, climate is the over arching trend of the environment.
1) The Scientific Method Cannot be Properly Applied to Global Warming
So the butterfly affect isn't a law or theory, it's a movie and idea, bu... | 97a6vc | CMV: The Extent of Human Impact on Global Warming Has Not Been and Cannot Be Proven with Current Technology | I want to start off by saying that I am fully open to learning more about people’s beliefs regarding global warming and am willing to be convinced that we can measure significant *human impact* on global warming. My primary view I want addressed here, which should be seen as a cautious view stemming from general knowle... | xR3B3Lx | 7 | 6 | [
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CMV: We should treat dog euthanasia like human euthanasia
I want someone to convince me why dog euthanasia shouldn’t be treated like human euthanasia emotionally. Why do we keep humans in comas forever but end dogs lives out of convenience for ourselves?
Or a better example in my opinion, people with cancer who know... | I'm confused what exactly do you want your view to be changed.
you want Dog euthanasia to be treated like Human Euthanasia or vice versa?
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Your title implies the first but your body implies the second.
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I feel lik... | 1c2559l | CMV: We should treat dog euthanasia like human euthanasia | I want someone to convince me why dog euthanasia shouldn’t be treated like human euthanasia emotionally. Why do we keep humans in comas forever but end dogs lives out of convenience for ourselves?
Or a better example in my opinion, people with cancer who know they will be dead in a couple of months is a better exampl... | Cautious-Meal-1028 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Freedoms of Speech and Assembly Should Never be Limited
With the backlash from the Unite the Right rally winding down, I thought it was once again time to think about whether or not we want people like this demonstrating and voicing their opinions. Rallies like these often lead to violence and targeted harassment... | Taking a step back, surely there are, in fact, many instances in which you think that free speech should be abridged. Is it OK for a company to lie about its products? Is it OK for a person to lie under oath? Is it OK for a person to call an elementary school and say that they're going to commit mass violence there lat... | How do you think Martin Niemöller would feel about restricting the speech of nazis?
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I don't think it would be fair for either of us to speak on his behalf, but he would probably want to I would guess.
What do you think of the [case in 1978 where the ACLU fought to allow neo-Nazis to march through a neighborhood... | 97a2tq | CMV: Freedoms of Speech and Assembly Should Never be Limited | With the backlash from the Unite the Right rally winding down, I thought it was once again time to think about whether or not we want people like this demonstrating and voicing their opinions. Rallies like these often lead to violence and targeted harassment/discrimination, but I have never thought that banning them wa... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Freedoms of Speech and Assembly Should Never be Limited
With the backlash from the Unite the Right rally winding down, I thought it was once again time to think about whether or not we want people like this demonstrating and voicing their opinions. Rallies like these often lead to violence and targeted harassment... | How do you think Martin Niemöller would feel about restricting the speech of nazis?
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CMV: The DOJ shouldn't release the entire Mueller Report.
A few points:
1. I'm not really a Trump supporter, so arguments based on how bad you think the President is won't really make a difference to this argument. I don't really want this descending into a Pro/Anti Trump thread. (Good Luck)
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>I don't think it's moral to release every sordi... | People profoundly misunderstand this investigation.
First of all, it wasn't a **criminal** investigation. This was a **counter intelligence** investigation. So, the primary goal was not to charge anyone with anything, the primary goal was to locate and plug a potential information leak. Secondarily, it was to det... | b94tys | CMV: The DOJ shouldn't release the entire Mueller Report. | A few points:
1. I'm not really a Trump supporter, so arguments based on how bad you think the President is won't really make a difference to this argument. I don't really want this descending into a Pro/Anti Trump thread. (Good Luck)
2. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not arguing to the legality of releasing/concealing the... | nanocaust | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: I think the baseball rules should be modified "rationally".
I know this is not realistic at all. However, if it is possible, I want to modify the rules of baseball.
Throughout baseball history, the designated hitter system has been a long-standing controversy. This is because the foundation of baseball, which is... | I hate the DH, I really do. I am a Phillies fan, and we have benefited from it more than others, with Harper being injured and having Kyle Schwarber. I still hate it.
With that said, there are two reasons we won't see that happen.
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There really is no point to your rules changes. And as you admit, everybody generally does both offence and defense. I once saw a ... | 1pqj4zo | cmv: I think the baseball rules should be modified "rationally". | I know this is not realistic at all. However, if it is possible, I want to modify the rules of baseball.
Throughout baseball history, the designated hitter system has been a long-standing controversy. This is because the foundation of baseball, which is all-attack and all-defense, is shaken. However, not everyone is S... | Embarrassed_Clue1758 | 5 | 4 | [
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CMV: While fatphobia and fat-shaming are a problem, studies that say being obese is unhealthy are not necessarily fatphobic for saying so.
Full disclosure: I'm a healthcare professional, and I view this issue through what I perceive as a medical lens. I was recently [told off](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/com... | I think the main problem isn't that we consider obesity unhealthy, it's that we treat it differently from just about every unhealthy behavior. Yes, being fat can lead to health problems. But so can lack of exercise, eating junk food, smoking, overwork, etc. When I have a physical and the doctor asks if I exercise, I sa... | >I was recently told off for expressing fatphobic views
Can you share more about this?
There are of course fringe groups of people who would argue with your main view here. But there is a difference between sharing this in a consensual exchange or medical setting and approaching complete strangers in the wild to tel... | 979ois | CMV: While fatphobia and fat-shaming are a problem, studies that say being obese is unhealthy are not necessarily fatphobic for saying so. | Full disclosure: I'm a healthcare professional, and I view this issue through what I perceive as a medical lens. I was recently [told off](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/979ois/comment/e46k3vo) for expressing fatphobic views, and I want to understand. I want to be inclusive, and kind to my fellow humans... | Valkyrie_17 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The United States of America needs to rely more on their state governments and less on the federal government.
First and for most, I'm going to point out that this view is actually relatively unmotivated by specific politics. Of course investment is going to come from the government, but I want to make it absolut... | What to do with differences within a state? In every state there are differences between people. Sometimes quite bitter. When a state adopts laws and regulations that favor one side, isn’t it the same, just on a smaller scale?
Examples: CA could be divided into 3 different regions.
Upstate NY is very different (poli... | What are the specific issues that you think are currently being handled by the Federal government that you think should be handled at the state level? The only one you've cited is marijuana legalization, an issue where the states *are* taking the reigns and legislating for themselves.
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I cited it as a success stor... | b9412o | CMV: The United States of America needs to rely more on their state governments and less on the federal government. | First and for most, I'm going to point out that this view is actually relatively unmotivated by specific politics. Of course investment is going to come from the government, but I want to make it absolutely clear that what I'm speaking about is beyond just political party A and political party B.
The United States, fo... | Readylamefire | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Rent is the clearest example of how the wealthy stay wealthy at the expense of the poor.
I identify as a democratic socialist. I had middle-class upbringings and now make enough money to probably be considered upper class. I live in an extremely expensive city in the US and am a renter, but I believe my argument ... | The landlord makes an investment in real estate, takes on a risk and attempts to make a profit by having a tenant pay a rent. There is nothing strange about that.
The tenant is not forced into this deal, he/she chooses to enter it freely.
In most places there is a lot of available housing for rent , making it a compe... | >I'm very concerned about income inequality
Relative to the world, in an absolute sense, or just within the US? If just within the US, why, considering it's a global economy now?
>So putting that all together, I see a system that is designed such that people who already have a lot of money can build even more wealt... | aqq4a5 | CMV: Rent is the clearest example of how the wealthy stay wealthy at the expense of the poor. | I identify as a democratic socialist. I had middle-class upbringings and now make enough money to probably be considered upper class. I live in an extremely expensive city in the US and am a renter, but I believe my argument holds for less expensive areas too.
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I'm very concerned about income inequality, weal... | othito | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Schools should have a room to send kids who truly don't care so they can goof off all day and not get their education. So that way even kids who still care in Regular classes can focus and have same environment as AP/Honors classes.
I was only able to take regular courses in school, but I still genuinely cared a... | Kids who test well should be advanced to lessons that meet them where they are. That’s how my school operated. We had different reading groups of kids that were at different levels. The more advanced students moved forward. One student went to the next grade up for reading lessons.
Kids shouldn’t be allowed to just f... | Counterpoint, the students who dont care about their academics still deserve an education
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They deserve the OPPORTUNITY for an education.
If they don't want to learn. That's their fucking problem.
They can always go back to the non idiot class and apply themselves.
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They deserve more than an opportunity
-... | 1k373pt | CMV: Schools should have a room to send kids who truly don't care so they can goof off all day and not get their education. So that way even kids who still care in Regular classes can focus and have same environment as AP/Honors classes. | I was only able to take regular courses in school, but I still genuinely cared about my academics. The problem was, I couldn’t focus my regular classes felt more like a daycare full of kids who didn’t care at all about getting their diploma. It got so bad I ended up dropping out, especially since my school didn’t allow... | Ashamed-Stretch1884 | 5 | 5 | [
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cmv: I don't think "just following orders" should always be discarded as a legal defence
I will preface this by saying that I'm not a lawyer or anyone with legal credentials so I'm willing to concede the point if any of this is glaringly wrong.
I think when an atrocity is committed by an authoritarian regime the low... | One dictator can't threaten an entire army.
While one soldier can be replaced, if each soldier doesn't comply, then the atrocities don't happen.
Collective responsibility can be hard to enforce via law, therefore, each person gains individual responsibilities to stand up.
Last, soldiers are supposed to do the ... | Is it discarded? I mean, only the high ranking Nazis were prosecuted. I’ve never heard of a case where every one involved in the regime was prosecuted.
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It says leaders. | 1k3olh9 | cmv: I don't think "just following orders" should always be discarded as a legal defence | I will preface this by saying that I'm not a lawyer or anyone with legal credentials so I'm willing to concede the point if any of this is glaringly wrong.
I think when an atrocity is committed by an authoritarian regime the low-level functionary don't have much room to actually effect the outcome. If they disobey th... | Intrepid_Doubt_6602 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Video game age ratings are often far too strict on violence and language and lower ratings would be completely acceptable for many games
I'm going to use the US ESRB system for this CMV as there are probably more people who are familiar with it, but the same logic applies to other rating systems such as PEGI.
Vi... | The current ESRB rating is good for the games industry. The main reason it exists is because of media backlash about games like Mortal Kombat (yes, the original). There was a big hubbub about kids being exposed to this graphic and offensive material (laughable by today's standards), and to cover its butt, the game indu... | The ratings, to the degree they're enforced by sellers, are meant to empower parents to know what their kids are playing and decide whether it's appropriate.
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In which case, wouldn't it be better to modify ratings to more accurately reflect the true maturity of children/teenagers at certain ages, rather than arbit... | 977d69 | CMV: Video game age ratings are often far too strict on violence and language and lower ratings would be completely acceptable for many games | I'm going to use the US ESRB system for this CMV as there are probably more people who are familiar with it, but the same logic applies to other rating systems such as PEGI.
Video games are given age ratings according to the levels of violence, sexual content, language and drug/alcohol use that they contain. The reaso... | LimeCub | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: BPTs new policy of only allowing black participation is appalling, and, unless they become a private sub, potentially illegal.
EDIT: As promised multiple times, now that evidence has been provided that it was just a "joke" or more accurately experiment, I will award Delta's to everyone who linked it and have remo... | 1. It's a joke.
And for 2... "Creating echo chambers doesn't work" There's a difference between making an attempt at preventing whitey from co-opting and appropriating yet another piece of black intellectual property, vs. creating an echo chamber.
"Segregation doesn't work" Sometimes you have to segregate yourself fr... | No, you can still get verified. You just need to [apologize first](https://www.reddit.com/r/BPTmeta/comments/b8s8cp/my_apologies/). So perfectly legal.
Can't really change your view on how appalling it is though - it being your opinion and all.
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Well, I don't know about not being able to change my view. You coul... | b8z2ml | CMV: BPTs new policy of only allowing black participation is appalling, and, unless they become a private sub, potentially illegal. | EDIT: As promised multiple times, now that evidence has been provided that it was just a "joke" or more accurately experiment, I will award Delta's to everyone who linked it and have removed the OP.
If it wasn't real, then there is no reason to be appalled at all, right?
Having read their post I understand and agree ... | OddlySpecificReferen | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: BPTs new policy of only allowing black participation is appalling, and, unless they become a private sub, potentially illegal.
EDIT: As promised multiple times, now that evidence has been provided that it was just a "joke" or more accurately experiment, I will award Delta's to everyone who linked it and have remo... | I can’t even with this stuff. Appalling? You need to reserve words like appalling for more important stuff or you won’t have any words left.
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Didn't that sub have like over a million subs? A public forum used by millions of people being segregated by race is appalling to someone who grew up in a post MLK world. I... | 1. It's a joke.
And for 2... "Creating echo chambers doesn't work" There's a difference between making an attempt at preventing whitey from co-opting and appropriating yet another piece of black intellectual property, vs. creating an echo chamber.
"Segregation doesn't work" Sometimes you have to segregate yourself fr... | b8z2ml | CMV: BPTs new policy of only allowing black participation is appalling, and, unless they become a private sub, potentially illegal. | EDIT: As promised multiple times, now that evidence has been provided that it was just a "joke" or more accurately experiment, I will award Delta's to everyone who linked it and have removed the OP.
If it wasn't real, then there is no reason to be appalled at all, right?
Having read their post I understand and agree ... | OddlySpecificReferen | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There is no such thing as objective morality
Morality is completely subjective depending on the person, culture, upbringing, time period... There is no such thing as objective morality.
Islamic terrorists for example view killing apostates and non followers as completely moral.
Long ago, slavery wasn’t viewed a... | Your OP only show that people disagree about what is moral, not that objective morality doesn't exist.
All the people you mentioned could just be wrong, people are wrong about stuff all the time, there are people who think the earth is flat, that doesn't mean that the earth's shape is subjective, just that some peopl... | >Morality is completely subjective depending on the person, culture, upbringing, time period... There is no such thing as objective morality.
People need food, people need water. People need sex to reproduce?
Assuming the goal of your objective morality isn't the anihilation of humans, this are all things that transc... | 977q8t | CMV: There is no such thing as objective morality | Morality is completely subjective depending on the person, culture, upbringing, time period... There is no such thing as objective morality.
Islamic terrorists for example view killing apostates and non followers as completely moral.
Long ago, slavery wasn’t viewed as immoral because in the eyes of the owners, the so... | Kiroshy676 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The idea that women vent whereas men problem solve is a myth
I find that most “problem solving” men are actually JUST like women in this way, when it’s only guys together. Some stereotyped examples:
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“I called the parts store and that Bob idiot behind the counter didn’t even know what I was talking abo... | Since you appear to reference it, I assume you’ve seen the nail in the forehead video.
In that video, there is a clear problem with a clear solution. If implemented, everything being complained about will stop.
Your examples are of events that have already happened.
“I had the head ache for such a long time and f... | I think your examples are a bit fair fetched, but there has been a long standing notion that men shouldn't express their feelings and "man-up" if you will. Regardless of wether you agree or not with that premise, do you believe that the notion does exist in today's culture?
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If by 'today's culture' you mean that o... | b8zmts | CMV: The idea that women vent whereas men problem solve is a myth | I find that most “problem solving” men are actually JUST like women in this way, when it’s only guys together. Some stereotyped examples:
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“I called the parts store and that Bob idiot behind the counter didn’t even know what I was talking about!”
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CMV: You shouldn't keep significant secrets from your spouse.
I do want to caveat this by adding "If you want a healthy and happy marriage that you want to last". If your goal is to gold dig or be/have a trophy wife, this doesn't really apply to you. And if you are looking to get out of a marriage or end it, or just t... | Are you only considering secrets about me, or any secrets at all? If my dad tells me that my brother is the product of an affair or something similarly shocking, but makes me swear to tell no one, is that required to be shared? Or if I broke things off with my Ex because they had a drug problem, but didn't want to shar... | "If you want a healthy and happy marriage that you want to last" is an interesting caveat for a list that includes:
- That you're cheating on your partner/having an emotional or physical affair.
- That you were unfaithful to them in the past.
- That you have a burner phone
- That you've ever posted/shared their nudes... | 1c1mcpr | CMV: You shouldn't keep significant secrets from your spouse. | I do want to caveat this by adding "If you want a healthy and happy marriage that you want to last". If your goal is to gold dig or be/have a trophy wife, this doesn't really apply to you. And if you are looking to get out of a marriage or end it, or just to stick it through a loveless marriage, then this doesn't apply... | rightful_vagabond | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The “work is slavery” and anti-work mindset is disconnected from reality
I’ve seen a growing number of people who claim that humans weren’t meant to work and that we should just enjoy life and reject the 9 to 5. On here, Tiktok, Twitter, it’s like some sort of revolution of lethargic, lazy people. But their persp... | Why do you think 40 hours should be the default amount of work per week?
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40 hours a week is a great balance, I do think it should 4-10s instead of 5-8s though.
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32 hours a week is a much better balance. | You have a really goofy idea of what anti-work people are saying. Like, you’ve made zero effort to understand.
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Can you explain further? I would imagine presenting a coherent view on it might change a view.
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You’re asking for your homework to be done for you whether or not you realize it | 1ljmah1 | CMV: The “work is slavery” and anti-work mindset is disconnected from reality | I’ve seen a growing number of people who claim that humans weren’t meant to work and that we should just enjoy life and reject the 9 to 5. On here, Tiktok, Twitter, it’s like some sort of revolution of lethargic, lazy people. But their perspective ignores something fundamental. Everything they enjoy in life exists beca... | OhSix31 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the U.S. wouldn’t defend Taiwan or NATO members, especially under the current administration
A lot of talk has been about it China invading Taiwan in a couple years. Much has been made about what the U.S. would do in response. I don’t people that the current administration has the will to fight. There has also be... | Disagree on China. Trump knows that giving Taiwan to China gives China dominant power in any trade negotiation. He would never choose to be in that position.
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Trump but is Trump willing to commit to potentially losing tens of thousands of American lives to do that if in the end, there wouldn’t be a direct benefit ... | This administration seals the beginning of the end for American hegemony leaning into the 21st century
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Well, first America is NOT a democracy. It never has been. It has always been a constitutional republic.
And American "hegemony" was terrible for Americans and the middler and lower class around the world. Tha... | 1k3cu4w | CMV: the U.S. wouldn’t defend Taiwan or NATO members, especially under the current administration | A lot of talk has been about it China invading Taiwan in a couple years. Much has been made about what the U.S. would do in response. I don’t people that the current administration has the will to fight. There has also been talk about Russia invading the Baltics.
Trump isn’t even willing to sell weapons to Ukraine an... | flyingsquirel530 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope"
# Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. ... | [deleted]
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> I think maybe one of the problems is unrealistic expectations. If you’re obese and low income it doesn’t make sense to be very disappointed if you aren’t successful in pursuing an attractive woman. Guys need to aim somewhere in the vicinity of their league. Something I’ve learned from Tindr and my own... | >CMV: There is nothing wrong with being single in your early 20s.
There's nothing wrong with being single period. Being single is a grand opprotunity to live your life with low levels of commitment and commensurately stress. Entering a relationship is a choice you make, and hopefully you are trading up. Hopefully your... | 973yb1 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope" | # Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. According to him, [the fact that I am a 22 year old male virgin ... | Fart_Gas | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope"
# Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. ... | Have you SEEN some of the people in this world walking around with kids? That means they had sex. Trust me it's possible for everyone save for the severely disfigured/disabled but even then there's hookers. You might just have to lower your standards.
---
Well, actually, I haven't been wholeheartedly trying to get a ... | >There is nothing wrong with being single in your early 20s.
There is, you need to practice. It doesn’t matter if you date fat ugly people now and you have no plans to marry them, you still need to date, because:
>So what if I'm ugly and it will be impossible for me to ever get a girlfriend?
In 20 years everybody i... | 973yb1 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope" | # Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. According to him, [the fact that I am a 22 year old male virgin ... | Fart_Gas | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope"
# Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. ... | Firstly, I have been intimate with virgins about your age, which I mention since you are particularly interested in hearing from non-virgins.
There's only one thing I can find to disagree with you on, and that's that the incel with which you are debating is *likely* right about one thing: that *he* can't get a girlfr... | I worked with a guy who was very ugly and never showered. He was in his forties and getting married for the fourth time and had 5 kids. If this guy is capable of getting at least 4 girlfriends to have sex with him and get married then I have to believe anyone is capable of doing it once
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I bet this ugly guy had ... | 973yb1 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope" | # Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. According to him, [the fact that I am a 22 year old male virgin ... | Fart_Gas | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope"
# Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. ... | Firstly, I have been intimate with virgins about your age, which I mention since you are particularly interested in hearing from non-virgins.
There's only one thing I can find to disagree with you on, and that's that the incel with which you are debating is *likely* right about one thing: that *he* can't get a girlfr... | What does sex have to do with having a girlfriend? This is just a false association. I have no problem finding women to have sex with, but I really struggle finding women to have a relationship with. Yes, a lot of this comes from past traumas and what is probably an emotional disorder, but also I like my own company mo... | 973yb1 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope" | # Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. According to him, [the fact that I am a 22 year old male virgin ... | Fart_Gas | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope"
# Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. ... | Have you SEEN some of the people in this world walking around with kids? That means they had sex. Trust me it's possible for everyone save for the severely disfigured/disabled but even then there's hookers. You might just have to lower your standards.
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Well, actually, I haven't been wholeheartedly trying to get a ... | I worked with a guy who was very ugly and never showered. He was in his forties and getting married for the fourth time and had 5 kids. If this guy is capable of getting at least 4 girlfriends to have sex with him and get married then I have to believe anyone is capable of doing it once
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I bet this ugly guy had ... | 973yb1 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope" | # Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. According to him, [the fact that I am a 22 year old male virgin ... | Fart_Gas | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope"
# Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. ... | Firstly, I have been intimate with virgins about your age, which I mention since you are particularly interested in hearing from non-virgins.
There's only one thing I can find to disagree with you on, and that's that the incel with which you are debating is *likely* right about one thing: that *he* can't get a girlfr... | Have you SEEN some of the people in this world walking around with kids? That means they had sex. Trust me it's possible for everyone save for the severely disfigured/disabled but even then there's hookers. You might just have to lower your standards.
---
Well, actually, I haven't been wholeheartedly trying to get a ... | 973yb1 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope" | # Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. According to him, [the fact that I am a 22 year old male virgin ... | Fart_Gas | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope"
# Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. ... | Firstly, I have been intimate with virgins about your age, which I mention since you are particularly interested in hearing from non-virgins.
There's only one thing I can find to disagree with you on, and that's that the incel with which you are debating is *likely* right about one thing: that *he* can't get a girlfr... | Have you SEEN some of the people in this world walking around with kids? That means they had sex. Trust me it's possible for everyone save for the severely disfigured/disabled but even then there's hookers. You might just have to lower your standards.
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Well, actually, I haven't been wholeheartedly trying to get a ... | 973yb1 | CMV: There is nothing wrong with doing what incels call "cope" | # Background (please see the links
I am being stalked by an incel on Reddit. He [has spent this morning trying to convince me that my life is hopeless and that I should give up](https://i.redd.it/im7cyd967yf11.jpg) because I am a 22 year old male virgin. According to him, [the fact that I am a 22 year old male virgin ... | Fart_Gas | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Using an RFID based gun locking system would prevent nearly all American gun deaths
In this system, every gun will have a sensor that will read a RFID chip in the hand of the user. Every gun will be electronically linked to a firearm license database which will be required to be updated through a wifi link at lea... | What about the fact that guns are, relatively speaking, very easy to manufacture? There are patterns available to 3d print gun parts, to say nothing of the near infinite variety of homemade firearms that have cropped up across the world. How do you account for these guns, given your system would probably make legal gun... | What about gun deaths that are committed by the owner? Suicide, domestic violence, accidental discharge, etc.
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!delta we would need to also give a psychiatric assessment to people so they can get approved.
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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/genderboxes ([7∆](/r/changemyview/wiki/user/genderboxes)).
^[Delta Sy... | 63xztm | CMV: Using an RFID based gun locking system would prevent nearly all American gun deaths | In this system, every gun will have a sensor that will read a RFID chip in the hand of the user. Every gun will be electronically linked to a firearm license database which will be required to be updated through a wifi link at least once a week. In order to get this RFID chip in your hand and get approved for a license... | Blood_tree | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Feminists care about empowering women at all costs, not gender equality.
Feminists claim they support women's empowerment, which makes sense, but they also claim they support gender equality, which is complete bullshit in my opinion. Feminists don't mind putting men down even when they're right, as it goes agains... | Women being shitty to you neither makes them feminists nor does it change the definition of feminism to something other than women's rights on the basis of equality of the sexes.
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It's not just two women though, it's countless more than that. Sometimes I feel women themselves don't think they're capable of doing s... | Were either of these two women actually feminists? You can't really disparage an ideology based on the behavior of two people that may not even believe in said ideology.
Even if they were, two people does not a movement make, nor does it a movement invalidate. Shitty people exist in the world - it doesn't mean that ... | 1c1idy0 | CMV: Feminists care about empowering women at all costs, not gender equality. | Feminists claim they support women's empowerment, which makes sense, but they also claim they support gender equality, which is complete bullshit in my opinion. Feminists don't mind putting men down even when they're right, as it goes against the feminist ideology that women are victims, and they want to defend their o... | IDKWhatToPutHere_01 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Professional gaming and eSports (Leag should not be considered a sport like football or hockey.
In my opinion, playing video games should be considered a skill rather than a sport. I understand that pro teams spend hours practicing strategies and use teamwork just like any professional sports team would. But the ... | Sports are defined as competitive physical activity or games. Games are defined as structured forms of play.
How do esports not fit that?
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This topic came up the other day.
It boiled down to this, what is the difference between a skill and a sport?
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CMV: Hillary Clinton (and most Democrats), are to the right of Donald Trump.
**EDIT**: So I am using the word term right wing incorrectly, as economics isn't the only way of labeling left and right, and in other respects Trump is to the right of Clinton. However I still don't see how Trump is more capitalist then Clin... | The right vs. left in the US isn't capitalism vs. anti-capitalism it's growth vs. distribution. Hilary Clinton campaigned on a platform of raising the minimum wage, increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1%, and ending Citizens United that's all about distribution. While Trump has complained about trade agreements a lot he... | Check out [the victory by dictionary fallacy](https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition)
Left and right (in America) as used in reference to the current American political discourse, not some hypothetical ideology that someone posted on Wikipedia. Pro-immigration stances... | 973sz4 | CMV: Hillary Clinton (and most Democrats), are to the right of Donald Trump. | **EDIT**: So I am using the word term right wing incorrectly, as economics isn't the only way of labeling left and right, and in other respects Trump is to the right of Clinton. However I still don't see how Trump is more capitalist then Clinton.
I was a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton in both the 2016 primaries a... | Doctorboffin | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: Trump is smarter than 99.9% of the population
Hi all,
Many people call him idiot, but I doubt of most of them are smarter than him at all.
Looking at his interviews when he was in his 30s, 40s, he is well-composed, articulate and funny, and looks like a ordinary smart businessman, at that age he already reach a... | You say he “is” then use a bunch of evidence from >20 years ago, if that is your evidence, you should change your statement to “at some point in his life” or “Trump was” because most people lost cognitive ability as they age
---
I believe he is way smarter than he was due to experience. His knowledge is easily 1000x ... | He managed to bankrupt a casino , I would hardly call him a good businessman
He turned wearing masks into a left wing right wing issue whereas in reality it was a healthcare issue .
Lastly , he advised people to insert bleach into their bloodstream (which is toxic) to cure covid . A person with high IQ knows when... | 1ligre6 | cmv: Trump is smarter than 99.9% of the population | Hi all,
Many people call him idiot, but I doubt of most of them are smarter than him at all.
Looking at his interviews when he was in his 30s, 40s, he is well-composed, articulate and funny, and looks like a ordinary smart businessman, at that age he already reach a level that is >99.9% population
He was managing mu... | Ashamed-External-330 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The vault experiments from the Fallout franchise were justified
I think that the experiments that happened in ***MOST*** of the vaults in Fallout are completely justified to better human civilization. They are a formidable measure of psychology and ethics, and give a convenient enough excuse so that the world doe... | To defend the vaults from *Fallout*, you'd also need to defend [Unit 731](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731); a scientific experimentation force in Japan that did human experiments. Give that page a read and let us know if you believe Unit 731 was a good thing.
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Why would OP have to demonstrate that unit 731... | Wut?
The Vault-Tec experiments ranged on one end from 'completely benign' to 'absolutely batshit crazy', like the one that exposed people to the FEV virus or had them continually take shit like Jet and Psycho just to see how they'd react.
The experiments didn't 'go wrong', they were intentionally designed to use the ... | 8rjykp | CMV: The vault experiments from the Fallout franchise were justified | I think that the experiments that happened in ***MOST*** of the vaults in Fallout are completely justified to better human civilization. They are a formidable measure of psychology and ethics, and give a convenient enough excuse so that the world does not find out about them.
If we take vault 111 from Fallout 4, we l... | _Spyguy_ | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The vault experiments from the Fallout franchise were justified
I think that the experiments that happened in ***MOST*** of the vaults in Fallout are completely justified to better human civilization. They are a formidable measure of psychology and ethics, and give a convenient enough excuse so that the world doe... | Sure, some vaults were *generally* ok, such as Vault 111, 101, 21, 34, and others, but a lot were... not. [Vault 11](http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_11) ended with tragedy, [Vault 106](http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_106) had the experiment be to constantly drug people unknowingly, [Vault 75](http://fallout.wik... | To defend the vaults from *Fallout*, you'd also need to defend [Unit 731](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731); a scientific experimentation force in Japan that did human experiments. Give that page a read and let us know if you believe Unit 731 was a good thing.
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Why would OP have to demonstrate that unit 731... | 8rjykp | CMV: The vault experiments from the Fallout franchise were justified | I think that the experiments that happened in ***MOST*** of the vaults in Fallout are completely justified to better human civilization. They are a formidable measure of psychology and ethics, and give a convenient enough excuse so that the world does not find out about them.
If we take vault 111 from Fallout 4, we l... | _Spyguy_ | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: The major changes that Denis Villeneuve made to the plot of Dune: Part 2 were mostly detrimental to to its success as a film and will likely be detrimental to the success of Part 3.
Some examples:
* In the book, Paul's younger sister Alia is born and grows into a child. The movie keeps parts of the "abomination"... | Depending on how you measure success, the movie has already brought in enough at the box office to be considered a success.
From a story point of view, we learn of it after purchasing a ticket, so while your points address some issues, they are unlikely to have influenced the success of the movie.
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Yeah, I mea... | Movie directors don't care about alienating the diehard fans who want carbons copies of the source material. They care about making movies that are broadly popular and successful, which Villeneuve has achieved. If these changes lead to the success of the first two installments, the formula will likely continue to work.... | 1c1ged8 | CMV: The major changes that Denis Villeneuve made to the plot of Dune: Part 2 were mostly detrimental to to its success as a film and will likely be detrimental to the success of Part 3. | Some examples:
* In the book, Paul's younger sister Alia is born and grows into a child. The movie keeps parts of the "abomination" story by depicting her as a sentient fetus, but for some reason sets the entire rebellion during the Jessica's pregnancy. This creates two major problems: first, we know from Anya Taylor-... | doctorstasis | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't care about anti-cishet white men bias in society
Honestly, when people complain about feminists and black lives matter, antifa and other "sjws" I really can't bring myself to care. Even if they do use violence I can't bring myself to care.
I don't care that men can't have sex with drunk girls at parties ... | >Honestly, when people complain about feminists and black lives matter, antifa and other "sjws" I really can't bring myself to care. Even if they do use violence I can't bring myself to care.
So you'd understand if I said I didn't care about any "oppressed" group you cared about?
> Even if they do use violence I can'... | So what is your view that you'd like changing?
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You literally contradict yourself within your own original post. You start by saying that you don't care and then you go on to say that you "w... | 8rk3vl | CMV: I don't care about anti-cishet white men bias in society | Honestly, when people complain about feminists and black lives matter, antifa and other "sjws" I really can't bring myself to care. Even if they do use violence I can't bring myself to care.
I don't care that men can't have sex with drunk girls at parties without being labeled as rapists.
I don't care that people ca... | trajayjay | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't care about anti-cishet white men bias in society
Honestly, when people complain about feminists and black lives matter, antifa and other "sjws" I really can't bring myself to care. Even if they do use violence I can't bring myself to care.
I don't care that men can't have sex with drunk girls at parties ... | > Even if they do use violence I can't bring myself to care.
You realize you sound exactly like the cishet white men you're historically criticizing, right?
You are tolerating discrimination today - EVEN VIOLENCE - against people because some other people did some bad things 60+ years ago. You think it's accept... | So what is your view that you'd like changing?
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You literally contradict yourself within your own original post. You start by saying that you don't care and then you go on to say that you "w... | 8rk3vl | CMV: I don't care about anti-cishet white men bias in society | Honestly, when people complain about feminists and black lives matter, antifa and other "sjws" I really can't bring myself to care. Even if they do use violence I can't bring myself to care.
I don't care that men can't have sex with drunk girls at parties without being labeled as rapists.
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CMV: I have a prejudice towards most brown / middle eastern people
I have brown friends that I care for, so no I don't hate all brown/middle eastern people. However, I have lived in neighbourhoods with many brown/middle eastern people and I have to say, I have a prejudice towards them.
For example, when I worked at ... | This isn't because they're brown so much as it's about were they live/ come from. Black Muslim here, and I've gone to two different Islamic private schools. It really depends on how new they are to America and how long they've had to adjust. Not saying thank you isn't as big a deal in some other places as it is here. T... | [deleted]
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Like becoming ultra conservative (looking down on my friends who have pink dye in their hair and wear shorts). My muslim friend used to be so quirky (likes anime, etc), accepting and loving but she got really deep into her religion and over time I felt like she didn't want to be my friend anymore. And a... | 63qn8y | CMV: I have a prejudice towards most brown / middle eastern people | I have brown friends that I care for, so no I don't hate all brown/middle eastern people. However, I have lived in neighbourhoods with many brown/middle eastern people and I have to say, I have a prejudice towards them.
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I have brown friends that I care for, so no I don't hate all brown/middle eastern people. However, I have lived in neighbourhoods with many brown/middle eastern people and I have to say, I have a prejudice towards them.
For example, when I worked at ... | This isn't because they're brown so much as it's about were they live/ come from. Black Muslim here, and I've gone to two different Islamic private schools. It really depends on how new they are to America and how long they've had to adjust. Not saying thank you isn't as big a deal in some other places as it is here. T... | Idiotic neighbors transcends race. The worst neighbors I've had were 4 upper class white boys.
"Shitty areas"
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What's interesting is that you complain about friends becoming judgmental yet you're doing that here. Fun anecdotal smell thing, many foreigners ... | 63qn8y | CMV: I have a prejudice towards most brown / middle eastern people | I have brown friends that I care for, so no I don't hate all brown/middle eastern people. However, I have lived in neighbourhoods with many brown/middle eastern people and I have to say, I have a prejudice towards them.
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CMV: The American Left’s education policy in the past 25 years has been a colossal failure. Black and Hispanic students are doing worse then ever and white students aren’t doing much better either.
Broadly speaking, their goals have been destruction in the name of leveling the playing field. Which means lowering stand... | Huh? Why would you think this is just the lefts fault exactly? Ill bet some of the biggest damage done in recent history (until trump that is) was Bush Jr and his no child left behind policy. Causing schools to teach to pass tests rather than a actual education.
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No child left behind was repealed over a decade ago... | I don't know how you could see this as so partisan. Teachers need to get paid more. Full stop. If teachers could make a living wage then you'd have smarter people clamoring for the job. Right now I'd say turnstile career. You need people that I can dedicate their lives to it that are passionate about it. I know people ... | 1pp8cyr | CMV: The American Left’s education policy in the past 25 years has been a colossal failure. Black and Hispanic students are doing worse then ever and white students aren’t doing much better either. | Broadly speaking, their goals have been destruction in the name of leveling the playing field. Which means lowering standards and eliminating gifted and talented programs in the name racial justice.
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CMV: High quality mattresses are a waste of money
Conventional wisdom on reddit is "Spend a lot of money on a mattress because you spend half your life on it and you'll pay more if you don't." This is never supported by anything other than the statement itself.
I had back pain in college and high school. Since buy... | You seem to be conflating the idea of quality with price. If the mattress you're sleeping on is helping your back and you're comfortable....then why would you say it's low-quality?
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This thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/... | Typically more expensive mattresses breath better (higher quality latex/foam), hold up from sagging longer and have firmer edges (which increase the usable size of the bed). They also seem to isolate movement better. I dont have any specific research, but it seems to be the consensus when you read through mattress re... | b8kgkt | CMV: High quality mattresses are a waste of money | Conventional wisdom on reddit is "Spend a lot of money on a mattress because you spend half your life on it and you'll pay more if you don't." This is never supported by anything other than the statement itself.
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CMV: Gun Control would be as ineffective as the War on Drugs leaving only law abiding citizens to suffer.
I always hear about people calling for gun control after a shooting or mass shooting. Often times they leave out the fact that the person(s) committing the crime often had enough money to buy a gun on the street.
... | I think it’s important to clarify whether you’re talking about “gun control,” or “banning guns.” I could see the latter as affecting law-abiding citizens, but I don’t really see how the former does.
There is (and seems to have always been) tons of misinformation on both sides of this issue, and though I’ve done a fair... | >Often times they leave out the fact that the person(s) committing the crime often had enough money to buy a gun on the street.
Guns off the street would be fewer and further between if the guns were illegal/heavily regulated for private citizens to own. This is why you don't see these kinds of mass shootings very oft... | 7b5lu7 | CMV: Gun Control would be as ineffective as the War on Drugs leaving only law abiding citizens to suffer. | I always hear about people calling for gun control after a shooting or mass shooting. Often times they leave out the fact that the person(s) committing the crime often had enough money to buy a gun on the street.
Usually these liberals in my view tend to come from gated communities like my step-cousin. Where I live th... | blank_dota2 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Liberals' attitude towards Zohran Mamdani vs Andrew Cuomo in New York Mayor election is same as leftists to Kamala vs Trump in 2024.
They are far from the perfect candidate to the group, that though liberals hate Zorhan's rent freeze policy and sane washing global intifada, he is the candidate closest to liberals... | You should reread what you wrote.
This isn't a test of liberals...it's a test of those to the right of them.
> However, the alternative is horrible, that Cuomo is a sex pest and literally the embodiment of the corruption and Nimbys in the NYC, and Trump is also a sex pest and a mad king in the eyes of leftists.
...w... | Harris isn't a progressive. Mamdani is. This is the plight of the dem party. Center left vs. Progressive.
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CMV: Net Human Happiness should not be the goal of society
Human societies should not be organized or primarily concerned with achieving a net increase in human happiness. Yes, there will be poor people and wealthy people and the poor people will be less well-off, but that does not mean there is necessarily injustice.... | >Thus, we should organize society around peoples' individual (negative) rights being maintained and protected. CMV.
Can you clarify what exactly you believe those rights are?
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Let's expand on that.
I assume that "violence" would also mean loss of prope... | It's a false dichotomy.
You can strive for the goal of human happiness while respecting individual rights.
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Read, *Net* human happiness. Meaning, making, in terms of sheer quantity, the most people happy as possible.
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Jef... | 970zes | CMV: Net Human Happiness should not be the goal of society | Human societies should not be organized or primarily concerned with achieving a net increase in human happiness. Yes, there will be poor people and wealthy people and the poor people will be less well-off, but that does not mean there is necessarily injustice. Injustice is created when individuals' rights are violated.... | jailthewhaletail | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:The idea of retirement is dangerous. People should be encouraged to be active their entire life not only when they are young.
I think people should work as much as they can. I believe that work helps the body and mind to remain sound. I want to work until my last day. I want to be productive. I do not want to stay... | >When I hear people talking about retirement I believe they are lazy people and I do not want to be friends with them but it is hard to find people who think like me.
So you hold an unpopular opinion, right? You've not made any good argument as to *why* it's bad or dangerous, only expressed a series of opinions.
Mos... | If you're just sitting around waiting to die while you're retired you're not doing it right. Retirement isn't about stopping your life, it's about really living it. Retirement is meant to be the time in your life when you can stop living for the man and making someone else money and just worry about you and yours. You ... | 63vn1d | CMV:The idea of retirement is dangerous. People should be encouraged to be active their entire life not only when they are young. | I think people should work as much as they can. I believe that work helps the body and mind to remain sound. I want to work until my last day. I want to be productive. I do not want to stay in my home watching shit TV like most old people.
I would like to work something hard even when I am old. I want to work in const... | grapesaregreat | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: News channels and opinion pieces should air separately
I believe that any channel I am getting my news from should not hold a preemptive bias and should just deliver facts and channels for expressing opinions should be different .
I am going to rationalise my argument by using examples from American Media . As ... | How would it be funded? How many people would actually tune in to a news channel that doesn't support their pre-conceived notions about politics?
People listen to the preferred news stations because it feeds their biases and reinforces what they already thought. They don't want unbiased facts, they want talking points... | Anyone is free to deliver the news as cold hard facts, its just that the majority of their support comes from people who want more elaboration / biases peppered in.
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I get that , but with reforms in journalism , this problem could be alleviated . No side will be able to accuse the other of misinformation /propogan... | 1liotl3 | CMV: News channels and opinion pieces should air separately | I believe that any channel I am getting my news from should not hold a preemptive bias and should just deliver facts and channels for expressing opinions should be different .
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CMV: The Tyrannosaurus Rex Should Be The National Dinosaur Of The United States Of America
1. The T-Rex is already a national icon, being the most famous dinosaur to come out of North America, thus, the T-Rex already has the popularity necessary for being the national dinosaur.
2. The T-Rex already represents the Am... | Should the national dinosaur of the US really be one who's name translates to "tyrant lizard king" when the first and last of those words are very loaded terms in American history?
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I mean, yah? It's just T-Rexs Scientific name, it means basically nothing to the Dinosaur itself.
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I think you're missing the pa... | But the US already has a national dinosaur: the bald eagle.
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*Prehistoric Dinosaur
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"Extinct" may be a good representation of the American spirit, but I don't think it's one they want to advertise. | b8q7ym | CMV: The Tyrannosaurus Rex Should Be The National Dinosaur Of The United States Of America | 1. The T-Rex is already a national icon, being the most famous dinosaur to come out of North America, thus, the T-Rex already has the popularity necessary for being the national dinosaur.
2. The T-Rex already represents the American spirit, being large and powerful, but at the same time, docile and elegant when it wa... | JJ_Blocks | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Tyrannosaurus Rex Should Be The National Dinosaur Of The United States Of America
1. The T-Rex is already a national icon, being the most famous dinosaur to come out of North America, thus, the T-Rex already has the popularity necessary for being the national dinosaur.
2. The T-Rex already represents the Am... | The tricerotops should be the USA national dinosaur.
1) exclusivity of fossils should not preclude a national treasure. 13 original colonies were colonies of Britain, yet we still celebrate them (ie. The national flag)
2) tricerotops could represent the 3 branches of US government, all equal in power.
3) paleontologi... | But the US already has a national dinosaur: the bald eagle.
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*Prehistoric Dinosaur
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"Extinct" may be a good representation of the American spirit, but I don't think it's one they want to advertise.
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Let's keep on subject now, you have stated no reason why the USA should not have the T-Rex as the national... | b8q7ym | CMV: The Tyrannosaurus Rex Should Be The National Dinosaur Of The United States Of America | 1. The T-Rex is already a national icon, being the most famous dinosaur to come out of North America, thus, the T-Rex already has the popularity necessary for being the national dinosaur.
2. The T-Rex already represents the American spirit, being large and powerful, but at the same time, docile and elegant when it wa... | JJ_Blocks | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I shouldn't be religious. Furthermore I should be agnostic not atheist.
There is no evidence of "god," be it evidence for the Christian god, Muslim god, Jewish god, Greeks gods, etc.
God can not be omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient (at least not in our human perspective) or things like the holocaust wou... | >God can not be omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient (at least not in our human perspective) or things like the holocaust wouldn't have happened.
Eh, the Holocaust is a really bad example for this. Most religions also say that humans have free will to obey or defy divine law. The Holocaust didn't happen because ... | You can be both agnostic and an atheist. Agnosticism means a lack of certainty, in this case in the existence of the divine. Atheism means a lack of faith in a higher power. You can lack faith in the existence of a higher power without being 100% certain.
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No you can't. Atheist by definition means you don't bel... | 63uv6j | CMV: I shouldn't be religious. Furthermore I should be agnostic not atheist. | There is no evidence of "god," be it evidence for the Christian god, Muslim god, Jewish god, Greeks gods, etc.
God can not be omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient (at least not in our human perspective) or things like the holocaust wouldn't have happened.
However, god is not like the tooth fairy. The universe ... | zarmesan | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: I shouldn't be religious. Furthermore I should be agnostic not atheist.
There is no evidence of "god," be it evidence for the Christian god, Muslim god, Jewish god, Greeks gods, etc.
God can not be omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient (at least not in our human perspective) or things like the holocaust wou... | Define "god" for me.
Then, decide if you believe in that defintion.
If you *don't* (i.e., you won't assert that your god exists), you're an atheist. If you *do*, you're a theist. If you think it's not even possible to ever know whether or not your god exists, then you're an agnostic.
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God is all everything.
Go... | >God can not be omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient (at least not in our human perspective) or things like the holocaust wouldn't have happened.
Eh, the Holocaust is a really bad example for this. Most religions also say that humans have free will to obey or defy divine law. The Holocaust didn't happen because ... | 63uv6j | CMV: I shouldn't be religious. Furthermore I should be agnostic not atheist. | There is no evidence of "god," be it evidence for the Christian god, Muslim god, Jewish god, Greeks gods, etc.
God can not be omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient (at least not in our human perspective) or things like the holocaust wouldn't have happened.
However, god is not like the tooth fairy. The universe ... | zarmesan | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Voting third party in a presidential election is throwing your vote away
The way that things are now, a third party candidate does not get enough support at the national level to truly run a campaign that has a legitimate shot at winning a presidential election. I voted third party once and will never do it again... | At a time when so many are calling for dramatic political and social reform, voting for a third party is a responsible and effective method of expressing public opinion and bringing about change in political culture.
Also, if a minor-party gets at least 5% of the total popular vote in the preceding presidential electi... | Mathematically you're right. In a FPTP system a third party vote at the presidential level is equivalent to not voting.
However, there is one thing a 3rd party vote does that not voting doesn't. It's a big middle finger to your preferred party since you're literally spoiling the race for them.
Rather than merely thr... | iu2i74 | CMV: Voting third party in a presidential election is throwing your vote away | The way that things are now, a third party candidate does not get enough support at the national level to truly run a campaign that has a legitimate shot at winning a presidential election. I voted third party once and will never do it again. The best way to build up a legitimate third (or more!) party is to focus on t... | anecdotalfallacies | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: It's unethical for journalists and sports media personalities to talk about Kobe Bryant without mentioning that he is a rapist
Yes, there was a plea deal, so he was ultimately not charged, which allowed him to continue his career. And yes, he’s one of the best 15 or so players ever, and among the most influential... | > Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.
That does not mean he admitted to sexually assaulting a woman
> He choked this woman hard enough to leave bruises on her neck, and he admitted afterward that she di... | Journalists don't talk about OJ as a murderer, journalists don't talk about most people the way we tend to in casual conversation.
Should journalists be reeling off an entire Wikipedia page any time they refer to someone?
I'm not sure what you think the ethical solution for this situation is, especially when an un... | 1c1ajdr | CMV: It's unethical for journalists and sports media personalities to talk about Kobe Bryant without mentioning that he is a rapist | Yes, there was a plea deal, so he was ultimately not charged, which allowed him to continue his career. And yes, he’s one of the best 15 or so players ever, and among the most influential ever.
But the man openly admitted to sexually assaulting a woman. Here are his comments after the plea deal was agreed:
> Although... | Heidelburg_TUN | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: AI tech is being wasted on art and business and should be used for scientific discovery.
Ai is very broad, but it’s mostly using huge datasets, doing stats, and machine learning to test out different parameters until something is right. It’s a broad category and I’m not an expert but it’s found itself in a broad ... | AI is being used in many scientific endeavors, including data analysis, experimental design, science publishing, automation, robotics, and others.
[https://fastdatascience.com/ai-in-research/](https://fastdatascience.com/ai-in-research/)
[https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/handle/JRC143482](https://publ... | >What the AI industry should be prioritizing is genetics, protein folding modeling, the function of the human connectome, oncology, etc. If LLMs can generate text, why can’t it tell me why it came up with that? This is an educational opportunity for language learning and linguistics.
Because they're entirely different... | 1pp43j0 | CMV: AI tech is being wasted on art and business and should be used for scientific discovery. | Ai is very broad, but it’s mostly using huge datasets, doing stats, and machine learning to test out different parameters until something is right. It’s a broad category and I’m not an expert but it’s found itself in a broad array of categories.
But what I hear about and see the most is the use in business – like wri... | Optimistbott | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Swimming (Olympic events and rules) makes no sense and is stupid
I've never understood swimming. What's the point of any stroke besides freestyle? Imagine if the NBA had two sets of playoffs, one where you can shoot normally, and one where every shot has to be granny style. Imagine a separate 100m distance in the... | Well because everyone would choose the fastest style and it would all be the same style everywhere. There are different types so that there is more variation.
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Exactly, every other sport is like this where it trends toward the best, most efficient way to do something
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But just like track and field, different ... | 1) Like Running, Swimming also has different distances - 100/200/400 - is that cool.
2) The purpose of the different strokes - are to put limitations on the athletes. Its like asking, why at the beginning of the three-legged race, why isn't the first thing everyone does is undo the binding? Its like asking, who put a... | 970sbw | CMV: Swimming (Olympic events and rules) makes no sense and is stupid | I've never understood swimming. What's the point of any stroke besides freestyle? Imagine if the NBA had two sets of playoffs, one where you can shoot normally, and one where every shot has to be granny style. Imagine a separate 100m distance in the Olympics where Usain Bolt has to skip or run backwards. Track makes wa... | durant_burner | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no such thing as "Too much regulation" on business/commerce
Salutations!
My post is a response to the state of US politics over the last 3 years. The current administration has made a big production, in my opinion, of reducing the number of regulations. President Trump has issued rules to federal agen... | The problem with regulation is that it makes administrative agencies to be lawmaker, sheriff, judge, and jury. Our government by design separates these functions. You wouldn't want the local cops deciding what is illegal and also acting as judges. But regulatory agencies combine these functions in one organization.
N... | I'm a very liberal democrat, big fan of AOC. And, even I can say with confidence that many regulations are wasteful, unnecessary and costly.
For example I work in CA, and we had [Proposition 65](https://oehha.ca.gov/proposition-65/general-info/proposition-65-plain-language) passed about a year ago. The upshot of i... | b8o63q | CMV: There is no such thing as "Too much regulation" on business/commerce | Salutations!
My post is a response to the state of US politics over the last 3 years. The current administration has made a big production, in my opinion, of reducing the number of regulations. President Trump has issued rules to federal agencies that they must reduce the number of regulations. While he had stated ... | limbodog | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no such thing as "Too much regulation" on business/commerce
Salutations!
My post is a response to the state of US politics over the last 3 years. The current administration has made a big production, in my opinion, of reducing the number of regulations. President Trump has issued rules to federal agen... | There is a cumulative cost to complex schemes of regulation that should not be ignored.
1. **More complex regulatory schemes inherently create more costs.** The cumulative compliance cost of many regulations may require a person or firm to engage a professional accountant or attorney to handle their compliance issues ... | > ... Regulations should be judged based on their effectiveness at their intended goal. ...
This seems to be too narrow. It is possible for regulations to be ineffective at their (ostensible) original intent but still to have a desired impact. Similarly, it may be that a regulation has the originally desired impac... | b8o63q | CMV: There is no such thing as "Too much regulation" on business/commerce | Salutations!
My post is a response to the state of US politics over the last 3 years. The current administration has made a big production, in my opinion, of reducing the number of regulations. President Trump has issued rules to federal agencies that they must reduce the number of regulations. While he had stated ... | limbodog | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Many unpopular US laws won't be changed until campaign finance is better regulated.
My understanding is that ~~lobbyists~~ campaign donors effectively control how congresspeople vote on laws through use of money. This leads to many unpopular decisions by congress, including but not limited to
* Marijuana contin... | Saying "Campaign finance reform" means little.
What actionable thing do you want done?
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In broad terms, I want congresspeople to be more accountable to the citizens than to lobbyists. There are a few specific things that could be done to advance toward this goal.
My understanding is that it is incredibly expe... | Lobbyists control congress people through information, not money. Yeah, money is a part of it, but that's not the meat of it.
Here's the fact: Congressmen don't write their own laws.
They don't, because they don't know anywhere near enough about Red River Fish biology to write proper regulations on that subject. So, ... | 7azxgr | CMV: Many unpopular US laws won't be changed until campaign finance is better regulated. | My understanding is that ~~lobbyists~~ campaign donors effectively control how congresspeople vote on laws through use of money. This leads to many unpopular decisions by congress, including but not limited to
* Marijuana continues to be criminal because the prison industry pays congress to get more people arrested f... | MeNowDealWithIt | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: it's natural for Europeans to prefer European immigration over Arab and African ones
I have seen a lot of people calling countries like Poland, Denmark, Norway, Finland and Hungary "racists" because they took Ukranian refugees over Syrian and Afghan ones. I personally don't believe it's wrong other racist for the... | Whether point 1 is 'natural' or not, I dont think its fair to say its non racist.
If I said 'I prefer Europeans over Africans because they are culturally nicer', thats a pretty racist statement in any other context
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Culture isn't Race. I am an Arab and I hate my culture, and I rather disconnected be from it.
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Are we really calling preferring to surround yourself with like minded peoples whose goals and cultures and religions/traditions align with yours ... | 1k2vs6c | CMV: it's natural for Europeans to prefer European immigration over Arab and African ones | I have seen a lot of people calling countries like Poland, Denmark, Norway, Finland and Hungary "racists" because they took Ukranian refugees over Syrian and Afghan ones. I personally don't believe it's wrong other racist for them to prefer refugees and immigrants from Ukraine over Arabic and African ones f9r 3 reasons... | Iraqi_Weeb99 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Almost nothing is an 'act of faith'
The idea that a person can take actions and make decisions based purely on their faith doesn't make sense. To do so is practically impossible.
It's impossible for a multitude of reasons, most predominantly because human minds to not work this way. The decision making process ... | > there is no faith in this choice. It's just a (even poorly) calculated risk, and nothing more.
I'm not sure what faith means to you(it would be nice if you clarified), but to me faith means trust. I trust that my home was designed to not collapse on me, ergo I have faith in the designer/engineer. I trust that I will... | When a paratrooper jumps from an airplane, it is because he has **faith** that his parachute will operate as intended.
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If parachutes failed at a rate of 50% would he still jump?
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Not sure. He might still take the risk. But he'd certainly have less **faith** in such a scenario. | 8rcjtx | CMV: Almost nothing is an 'act of faith' | The idea that a person can take actions and make decisions based purely on their faith doesn't make sense. To do so is practically impossible.
It's impossible for a multitude of reasons, most predominantly because human minds to not work this way. The decision making process a human undergoes when faced with a choice... | justmikewilldo | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: The French are no more racist today than they were 20 years ago.
Hello. I was born in 1998 in South America, and I have lived in France since I was about 5 years old. I am of mixed race (brown skin) African, European, and Native American, but having been adopted by a white family, I was almost never subjected to ... | The right is surging in Europe and the US. Many people are very anti-immigrant (and increasingly antisemitic) the rise of nationalism and nationalistic parties is an indicator that racism has, in fact, gotten worse.
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The fact that people are expressing racism is a good indicator that they are -more- racist. The idea that th... | 1poxeuf | cmv: The French are no more racist today than they were 20 years ago. | Hello. I was born in 1998 in South America, and I have lived in France since I was about 5 years old. I am of mixed race (brown skin) African, European, and Native American, but having been adopted by a white family, I was almost never subjected to racism before around 2020. It happened a few times, yes, but it was onc... | Icy_Seesaw_2796 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Banning holocaust denial is immoral, anti-free speech, and should be lifted .. Here's why:
My view is based on 3 important bases:
It is anti-free speech:
I am free to say whatever I want to say, even if it's contrary is common knowledge now, and even if it is common knowledge because of existing evidence. And H... | >The ban of dangerous ideas is a dangerous
The *spreading* of dangerous ideas is dangerous 100% of the time *by definition* though - banning is only dangerous *if* you slip down the slope and start banning non-dangerous ideas.
>Lying in and of itself is not a crime ANYWHERE in the world
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It is anti-free speech:
I am free to say whatever I want to say, even if it's contrary is common knowledge now, and even if it is common knowledge because of existing evidence. And Here's why I think this is common practice and that the holocaust is given a huge special treatmen... | Whystare | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Desktop computers are the best - laptops and smartphones suck!
I've been working from home for seven months now.
It's insane how much more productive and happy I feel being able to work from a triple monitor desktop-based battlestation every day.
I hate how we're **constantly brainwashed to believe that laptops... | A brief point - CMVs are not a place for a rant. They are a place for a specific view to be discussed, one you are open to changing. Can you explain what, if anything, would change your view.
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Yes, I can.
Mobility is something I deliberately didn't touch on.
What would CMV, if well argued:
\- Why there is va... | To make things clear, is your view that desktops are best for *work* or just in general?
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In general
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Then let me be the first to say that I *love* my desktop. I've had a "battlestation" of some sort since I was 9 years old and it's only ever evolved as I got older. Working with multiple screens on a desk of... | aqiwsj | CMV: Desktop computers are the best - laptops and smartphones suck! | I've been working from home for seven months now.
It's insane how much more productive and happy I feel being able to work from a triple monitor desktop-based battlestation every day.
I hate how we're **constantly brainwashed to believe that laptops, tablets, and smartphones, are somehow "better" or "cooler".**
This... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: citizenship or residential status should be a requirement to own property in a country
The more I read about housing situations in large city’s especially on the west coast of the US and Canada the less I understand how foreign investors are aloud to buy up land in these city’s and increase the cost of living for... | Restricting investment usually raises prices, not lower them.
The easier solution seems like build more housing.
https://marketurbanismreport.com/will-americas-housing-crisis-fixed-supply-side-demand-side-solutions/
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There’s already more than enough housing for people to live. The issue isn’t lack of supply it’s... | There are *far* better solutions than a ban on owning land.
You can tax the value of land, getting these foreigners to pay for your public services for you.
You can simply relax zoning laws and build more housing, which will reduce the cost of living and improve the economy.
In general, foreign investment into your ... | 96zro4 | CMV: citizenship or residential status should be a requirement to own property in a country | The more I read about housing situations in large city’s especially on the west coast of the US and Canada the less I understand how foreign investors are aloud to buy up land in these city’s and increase the cost of living for the citizens of these places. Recently I saw that New Zealand put restrictions on this but a... | Acdawright | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Conservative/Liberal media brainwashed people and regular Americans have no idea about the actual legality of abortion
I have recently gotten into politics because of Trump becoming president. I want to become a politician and make sure someone like Trump can never become president again. I have been studying w... | > The majority of Americans don't realize a President being pro life/pro choice does nothing.
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CMV: It’s too late to do anything about climate change and the sixth mass extinction, and we are doomed.
We are in the midst of a sixth mass extinction, and possibly an insect apocalypse, where insects could be gone in a century. I’m scared. We have only 12 years until the world ends, and politicians won’t do anything... | Where did you get 12 years figure?
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From articles saying we have 12 years to stop climate change before it becomes catastrophic.
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i'm also worried about climate change, but when articles state something like "12 years to stop climate change," you shouldn't take it as "the world will end immediately upon the c... | " We have only 12 years until the world ends"
Who sold you that?
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The news. More specifically, 12 years to stop global warming.
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This statement is more 12 year to act to lessen the climate change which will occur. But the world/Human race isn't ending in 12 years. Acting now would mean lesser storms, heat, e... | b8nrxz | CMV: It’s too late to do anything about climate change and the sixth mass extinction, and we are doomed. | We are in the midst of a sixth mass extinction, and possibly an insect apocalypse, where insects could be gone in a century. I’m scared. We have only 12 years until the world ends, and politicians won’t do anything about it. I am terrified, and I’m on the verge of a mental breakdown, I don’t want to lose my family and ... | Sylveon_Fan | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: "Mana burn" spells in video games are bad design
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I've recently gotten into Warcraft III again (more the watching than playing part) and I've noticed that whenever there is mana burn involved, it got ultimately more boring.
For those who don't know: "Mana burn" spells are spells in video games whic... | So, to paraphrase and simplify your view, you're saying that mana burns are bad design because they're not fun. That's a fair contention, I think that generally good game design is fun, and bad design isn't. But I think narrowing that idea down to individual mechanics can sometimes cause problems.
You say it's not f... | > But the main focus here is on the player whos mana is getting burned, as his fun is greatly decreased.
Is this really that different from the player whos health is being burned by a damage spell? You say that
> In many cases, especially with heroes that are melee and have a small mana pool, that is not possible
t... | 63sae6 | CMV: "Mana burn" spells in video games are bad design | Hello /r/cmv,
I've recently gotten into Warcraft III again (more the watching than playing part) and I've noticed that whenever there is mana burn involved, it got ultimately more boring.
For those who don't know: "Mana burn" spells are spells in video games which reduce the enemies mana, which is the ressource they ... | PandaDerZwote | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: marriage has no upsides for a man and only potential downsides
Marriages in the western world have no benefits if you are a guy and only have potential downsides.
This isn’t a post about all women being manipulative gold diggers or anything of that nature it’s just the way I view it at the moment through a pur... | I can name one upside immediately, there are tax breaks for being married. That would be an upside.
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tax benefits that marriage provides they aren’t that large in comparison to the risk associated . For example in the country I live in they amount to about 2k USD worth of tax credits per year a sum which pales in... | Your argument doesn't make sense. Let's say there's a 50% chance of divorce (higher than reality but let's stick with it). That means that there's a 50% chance your marriage lasts. You see no upsides to a lifelong, successful marriage?
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Those are not particularly high odds though . I mean even if we go on the low ... | 1c1950t | CMV: marriage has no upsides for a man and only potential downsides | Marriages in the western world have no benefits if you are a guy and only have potential downsides.
This isn’t a post about all women being manipulative gold diggers or anything of that nature it’s just the way I view it at the moment through a purely logical outlook.
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CMV: It is not worth carrying life jackets on commercial planes.
In my view the total cost of flying life jackets for every seat on a commercial planes is not worth the small number of lives they have ever saved. There have only been 43 deliberate landings for all planes not just commercial ones on water in the last 5... | I think you are looking at the math wrong. By your math, it cost less than 5 cents a ticket to have that life vest on board. If it makes people happier and feel safer, and they are more likely to buy the tickets because of it, then it makes a ton of sense.
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I did not think of it that way, so you think that is al... | The whole point of life jackets is that you don't want to use them but you should have them if you need them.
With planes, at a certain points during the flight the survival rate becomes 0% but if some things happen you should be able to land over water. Wouldn't you want a life jacket for the only scenario you could ... | 96xvqb | CMV: It is not worth carrying life jackets on commercial planes. | In my view the total cost of flying life jackets for every seat on a commercial planes is not worth the small number of lives they have ever saved. There have only been 43 deliberate landings for all planes not just commercial ones on water in the last 50 years with:
* Each jacket cost $40 and last for 10 years
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CMV: Objective or unbiased news doesn't exist
My core belief is a bit broader than the title. I believe that **anything related to society/humanity is inherently subjective** but I'll use news as an example.
Even if a news source backs up stories with factual evidence, they're still biased based on the facts they cho... | If you consider cspan news, then cspan coverage of the floors of the house and senate is a pretty good bet.
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Sure, I haven't heard of them but I'll consider them news.
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If they just broadcast whatever's happen... | I think you might want to draw a distinction between unbiased news and an unbiased news agency. The arguments you state apply very well to the latter, but not so much to the former.
For instance:
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Even if a news source backs up stories with factual evidence, they're still biased based on the facts they choose. For example, Newspaper A might choose to p... | Nate1602 | 3 | 3 | [
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My core belief is a bit broader than the title. I believe that **anything related to society/humanity is inherently subjective** but I'll use news as an example.
Even if a news source backs up stories with factual evidence, they're still biased based on the facts they cho... | If you consider cspan news, then cspan coverage of the floors of the house and senate is a pretty good bet.
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CMV: Financial Crimes Should Be Punished at the Same Level as Violent Crimes.
Violent crimes can damage a victim physically and psychologically. You can undo a financial crime, but you cannot undo a violent crime because the victim suffered from physical and psychological issues. That is the reason why violent crimes ... | Not all violent crime is punished at the same level - so can you define what "level" you are aiming to match?
Bernie Madoff was sentenced to 150 years in prison.
If you punch someone in the face, you get a few years in prison.
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Can you elaborate one "why" you hold this view?
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CMV:Intellectual Property law is unnecessary and constricting on peoples ability to participate in the economy
Im admitting ignorance up front. I dont know much of anything about the details of this area of law, and im not an expert in any legal matter. Thats why im posting it here
But my first impression from what i... | Intellectual property law deals with the rules for securing and enforcing legal rights to inventions, designs, and artistic works. Just as the law protects ownership of personal property and real estate, so too does it protect the exclusive control of intangible assets. The purpose of these laws is to give an incentive... | Let me give some examples of why we have IP laws:
Trademarks: it's ok for people to copy your packaging exactly. Say you make a drug, and I make a drug with ground glass inside, and copy your packaging, how are consumers supposed to know that what they buy is your drug and not the ground glass pill?
Copyright: You ma... | ewfbx1 | CMV:Intellectual Property law is unnecessary and constricting on peoples ability to participate in the economy | Im admitting ignorance up front. I dont know much of anything about the details of this area of law, and im not an expert in any legal matter. Thats why im posting it here
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CMV:Intellectual Property law is unnecessary and constricting on peoples ability to participate in the economy
Im admitting ignorance up front. I dont know much of anything about the details of this area of law, and im not an expert in any legal matter. Thats why im posting it here
But my first impression from what i... | Let me give some examples of why we have IP laws:
Trademarks: it's ok for people to copy your packaging exactly. Say you make a drug, and I make a drug with ground glass inside, and copy your packaging, how are consumers supposed to know that what they buy is your drug and not the ground glass pill?
Copyright: You ma... | Intellectual property law deals with the rules for securing and enforcing legal rights to inventions, designs, and artistic works. Just as the law protects ownership of personal property and real estate, so too does it protect the exclusive control of intangible assets. The purpose of these laws is to give an incentive... | ewfbx1 | CMV:Intellectual Property law is unnecessary and constricting on peoples ability to participate in the economy | Im admitting ignorance up front. I dont know much of anything about the details of this area of law, and im not an expert in any legal matter. Thats why im posting it here
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CMV: Thinking women have it 'easier' when it comes to dating is based on lack of empathy
I don't think I can change my view and agree on which sex/gender has it 'better' however, I even if I disagree, there are things where I can 'understand' where they come from. But people who complain about how 'easy' it is for wo... | [removed]
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My view isn't whether they have it easier or not, my view is why they think this. And I believe it is rooted on lack of empathy. If you can show me evidence that it isn't because of lack of empathy, I'm willing to CMV. So no, I didn't break the rules.
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>The share of U.S. adults reporting no sex rea... | There will always be undesirable and leftover men, its a sad fact, so life is tough for them. It's just not the case for women. They can certainly find someone to spend time with, even if for the wrong reasons
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But who has it easier or harder is irrelevant. Because if you say 'it's easier' most people brush it off... | t299vp | CMV: Thinking women have it 'easier' when it comes to dating is based on lack of empathy | I don't think I can change my view and agree on which sex/gender has it 'better' however, I even if I disagree, there are things where I can 'understand' where they come from. But people who complain about how 'easy' it is for women to get a date even when explained to them why it is not, are disgust me. And I hate th... | WaterDemonPhoenix | 3 | 3 | [
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I don't think I can change my view and agree on which sex/gender has it 'better' however, I even if I disagree, there are things where I can 'understand' where they come from. But people who complain about how 'easy' it is for wo... | [removed]
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My view isn't whether they have it easier or not, my view is why they think this. And I believe it is rooted on lack of empathy. If you can show me evidence that it isn't because of lack of empathy, I'm willing to CMV. So no, I didn't break the rules.
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>And I believe it is rooted on lack of empathy... | Your analogy is off. Its not a race track with bombs its more like someone showing you a bathtub seemingly full of dirt and told you theres a solid gold ingot. Yea you might need to get your hands dirty, but there IS gold in the bathtub. For guys the bathtub is empty. You statistically have more chances of finding a go... | t299vp | CMV: Thinking women have it 'easier' when it comes to dating is based on lack of empathy | I don't think I can change my view and agree on which sex/gender has it 'better' however, I even if I disagree, there are things where I can 'understand' where they come from. But people who complain about how 'easy' it is for women to get a date even when explained to them why it is not, are disgust me. And I hate th... | WaterDemonPhoenix | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: All characters should eventually enter the public domain
Copyrighted works rarely enter the public domain anymore. I understand that it's important to protect intellectual property but I see no reason why characters like Mickey Mouse and Snoopy and still copyrighted/trademarked. You can't sell a single thing rela... | While generally I agree, let me give you a practical example: *Dune*.
Frank Herbert published the original *Dune* in 1965. Frank died in 1986. His son, Brian Herbert, took over the series and has continued it since 1999 (with another author).
Imagine, for a moment, that Brian works for another few decades, and then... | Disney, et al have been bribing lawmakers to extend copyright for years and have been largely successful. Trademarks don’t expire and are based on use. While, I agree that the old works should enter the public domain, I don’t agree the characters themselves should.
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CMV: The solution to the middle east is to give Israel US land
Palestinians aren't going anywhere. They'll fight no matter what.
So we give them everything. Fuck it. You win. Congrats.
But where will Israel go?
Give them Vermont. Nobody lives in vermont. It's a beautiful state. Vermont doesn't strike me as anti-se... | >Palestinians aren't going anywhere. They'll fight no matter what
Israelis choose to live where they do more so than Palestinians
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The alternative is giving the Palestinians a US state. I figured america would be more open to hosting a new Israel than a new Palestine.
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Or we can look for other alternatives t... | Your view is far too simplistic and you don’t seem to bother to consider the actual people involved in the conflict. They each have their own opinions, desires, and wills. You can’t just make them do anything if they don’t want to. Why do you think anyone would agree with your plan and what would you do about those tha... | 17x5we8 | CMV: The solution to the middle east is to give Israel US land | Palestinians aren't going anywhere. They'll fight no matter what.
So we give them everything. Fuck it. You win. Congrats.
But where will Israel go?
Give them Vermont. Nobody lives in vermont. It's a beautiful state. Vermont doesn't strike me as anti-semetic. So get rid of it, maybe fold it into new hampshire, and j... | nataliephoto | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I'm not going to tell social services about my brother's domestic abuse past.
I have custody of 3 kids that are my brothers. I knew he hit his wife when i was small, about 12ish. I would tell my mom that it wasn't right but I got the normal- it isn't our business remark. I'm now 25 and I have a simple relationshi... | *But the only one who can change the situation is her.*
Who is "her"? Your post is about your brother.
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My sister in law
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And she is a good person- who is actually a terrible person for putting her kids though that by staying with my brother. She could do it without him and do a good job.
She ran away from ... | Dude, you think he's capable of killing you, a fully grown adult who can stand up to him, and you're going to throw his vulnerable kids under the bus?
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How am I throwing them? I know I'm not fully protecting them but im worried about my baby too. As much as I love them my son comes first. I'm just confused and sca... | 159kily | CMV: I'm not going to tell social services about my brother's domestic abuse past. | I have custody of 3 kids that are my brothers. I knew he hit his wife when i was small, about 12ish. I would tell my mom that it wasn't right but I got the normal- it isn't our business remark. I'm now 25 and I have a simple relationship with my brother thats very surface level. Ill fix your shower, you take my kids to... | berryllamas | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: "Believe Women" is a bad name for an otherwise great movement that hinders the movement's progress
I want to start this off right away by saying that women not being believed when they come forward with allegations of any kind of abuse is a massive problem in society, and that I recognize that there is a ubiquito... | So, clearly very few people are in favor of a Kafkaesque nightmare society where a single accusation is enough to place people at the mercy of an uncaring, merciless justice system. Right? That is a very, very extreme belief.
So, if someone hears "believe women," and assumes the speaker believes that, I quickly go, ... | So first off... do you believe a majority of the time women are not believed when they claim they are raped?
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Not just then, but yes. They are not believed as much in many other avenues in life too. At the [doctor, for instance.](https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/women-and-pain-disparities-in-experience-and-tr... | ewbbwy | CMV: "Believe Women" is a bad name for an otherwise great movement that hinders the movement's progress | I want to start this off right away by saying that women not being believed when they come forward with allegations of any kind of abuse is a massive problem in society, and that I recognize that there is a ubiquitousness of improper behavior towards women in almost every corner of our society. Especially after watchin... | Tortoiseses | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is no (sound) argument in favour of abortion that doesn't justify abortion to full term
Arguments in favour of abortion:
Right to bodily autonomy - the fetus is using the mother's womb without her consent, she has the right to kill it in order to prevent that from happening. The fetus doesn't just stop usi... | I'd say your sarcastic comment got it right. The babies right to live overrides the mothers right to bodily autonomy.
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why, then, is this not true before 24 weeks?
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Because why consider its right to life when it can't live on its own? | A non viable baby is not considered human while a viable one can be considered human. This distinction justifies my belief of abortion being allowed only before viability.
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but why? why does viability (which is not 24 weeks for most babies) determine whether or not something is human?
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Because a viable baby c... | 9i7d17 | CMV: There is no (sound) argument in favour of abortion that doesn't justify abortion to full term | Arguments in favour of abortion:
Right to bodily autonomy - the fetus is using the mother's womb without her consent, she has the right to kill it in order to prevent that from happening. The fetus doesn't just stop using the mother's body at 24 weeks in most cases, therefore she would still have the right to kill it.... | knortfoxx | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Mask mandates should not apply to private businesses, and it should be at their discretion as to whether to enforce a mask policy or not.
Full disclaimer, I'm not anti-vax or anti-mask in anyway. I've already gotten my booster shot. Politically I lean towards the left (should be irrelevant though). To those of yo... | Does this apply to any other saftey standards?
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I'm not asking about other safety standards, I'm asking/discussing specifically the mask mandate.
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I think their point was that why should this safety standard be left up to the business, when others are not.
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That's much better put thanks. Because it's a t... | If mask mandates did not apply to private businesses, then private businesses would have a difficult time enforcing a mask policy, especially as there is such vehement, sometimes violent, opposition to the act of wearing a mask. It also relieves them of having to take what surmounts to some as a political position, whi... | rqnrsg | CMV: Mask mandates should not apply to private businesses, and it should be at their discretion as to whether to enforce a mask policy or not. | Full disclaimer, I'm not anti-vax or anti-mask in anyway. I've already gotten my booster shot. Politically I lean towards the left (should be irrelevant though). To those of you that have gotten attacked or mocked by people, whether anti-maskers or mask people, I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. There's no excuse ... | theythinkuWenbatshit | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Mask mandates should not apply to private businesses, and it should be at their discretion as to whether to enforce a mask policy or not.
Full disclaimer, I'm not anti-vax or anti-mask in anyway. I've already gotten my booster shot. Politically I lean towards the left (should be irrelevant though). To those of yo... | If mask mandates did not apply to private businesses, then private businesses would have a difficult time enforcing a mask policy, especially as there is such vehement, sometimes violent, opposition to the act of wearing a mask. It also relieves them of having to take what surmounts to some as a political position, whi... | Does this apply to any other saftey standards?
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CMV: Boxing sucks
Okay, so I admit I used catch all, somewhat clickbait title.
I want to caveat this; When I say 'boxing sucks', I am not talking about the style of martial art (and in my opinion it is a martial art), nor am I talking about amateur boxing bouts or mid-level professional fights.
I am, instead, talki... | “Prize-fighting” has always been about generating the most revenue for all involved.
It just reflects the current world around us - that more people will pay to see Floyd vs Paul than Floyd vs a Canelo rematch or whatever.
Sports evolve to continue appealing to their audience (style, rules, production, media, narra... | While the Mayweather-Logan Paul fight is nothing short of a clown show, it will generate *a lot* of money. Simply because Logan Paul is about as close to an average guy as they come - or certainly closer to an average guy than any professional boxer. Many people have been curious how a regular person would fare against... | n1udp1 | CMV: Boxing sucks | Okay, so I admit I used catch all, somewhat clickbait title.
I want to caveat this; When I say 'boxing sucks', I am not talking about the style of martial art (and in my opinion it is a martial art), nor am I talking about amateur boxing bouts or mid-level professional fights.
I am, instead, talking about the upper ... | EverythingRickRoll | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Multiple orgasms don't exist. Women are just confused as to when one begins and ends or calling orgasms to what isn't one.
I don't believe in "multiple orgasms". Not sure if people mean that they're horny as hell enough to masturbate 5 times in a row or just assume each wave of pleasure is a different orgasm and ... | *"Women are just confused as to when one [orgasm] begins and ends"*
This seems to acknowledge that they do exist; how can someone be confused about when one ends and another begins if they don't?
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Everyone can have multiple orgasms. But what I'm referring to are specifically the claims of:
- having many with just... | >Nobody I ever encountered ever backs up their claims of "multi orgasmic"
Clarifying Question: How do you expect them to back this up? Do you sleep with women, and none have multiples? Or, do you just not like their descriptions as they do not line up with your own experience with sex?
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That's true, they could ba... | 159j078 | CMV: Multiple orgasms don't exist. Women are just confused as to when one begins and ends or calling orgasms to what isn't one. | I don't believe in "multiple orgasms". Not sure if people mean that they're horny as hell enough to masturbate 5 times in a row or just assume each wave of pleasure is a different orgasm and not part of a whole or whatever.
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CMV: Multiple orgasms don't exist. Women are just confused as to when one begins and ends or calling orgasms to what isn't one.
I don't believe in "multiple orgasms". Not sure if people mean that they're horny as hell enough to masturbate 5 times in a row or just assume each wave of pleasure is a different orgasm and ... | >Nobody I ever encountered ever backs up their claims of "multi orgasmic"
Clarifying Question: How do you expect them to back this up? Do you sleep with women, and none have multiples? Or, do you just not like their descriptions as they do not line up with your own experience with sex?
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That's true, they could ba... | *"Women are just confused as to when one [orgasm] begins and ends"*
This seems to acknowledge that they do exist; how can someone be confused about when one ends and another begins if they don't?
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I don't believe in "multiple orgasms". Not sure if people mean that they're horny as hell enough to masturbate 5 times in a row or just assume each wave of pleasure is a different orgasm and ... | Are you a female?
I could not comprehend how multiple orgasms exist and then I transitioned. Estrogen changes completely how one experiences orgasms and they are not anything line a testosterone field orgasm. They don't feel the same, they don't start the same, and they don't even build up the same.
If you have orgas... | >Nobody I ever encountered ever backs up their claims of "multi orgasmic"
Clarifying Question: How do you expect them to back this up? Do you sleep with women, and none have multiples? Or, do you just not like their descriptions as they do not line up with your own experience with sex?
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That's true, they could ba... | 159j078 | CMV: Multiple orgasms don't exist. Women are just confused as to when one begins and ends or calling orgasms to what isn't one. | I don't believe in "multiple orgasms". Not sure if people mean that they're horny as hell enough to masturbate 5 times in a row or just assume each wave of pleasure is a different orgasm and not part of a whole or whatever.
I mean I understand some can have shorter cooldown periods than others, that's fine, but to cla... | ratcity22 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Every person charged with a non-minor crime should be rehabilitated and put back into society, without exception.
It is a complete waste of resources to punish people for non minor crimes, eg 1 year+ prison sentence. Most people come out of prison worse than they went in due to the punishment mindset in the US. I... | Wait so you just want to prison people who do minor crimes?
But nonminor no prison?
And what sort of rehabilitation? Is it forced? Is it inpaitent? Inpaitent forced rehabilitation is just prison but with therapy. But it still is inprisonment.
It also doesn’t work for everyone. In attempts to rehabilitste criminals w... | I agree with you, but one question: What would you do with repeating offenders? As I understand (I'm not from the US), usually when people goes to jail because if a minor crime it's because the have accumulated multiple violations, so the punishment is not working and they put a harder one.
Imagine a boy who doesn't s... | t238au | CMV: Every person charged with a non-minor crime should be rehabilitated and put back into society, without exception. | It is a complete waste of resources to punish people for non minor crimes, eg 1 year+ prison sentence. Most people come out of prison worse than they went in due to the punishment mindset in the US. If these people will eventually return to society, the focus should be on making sure they never commit a crime again, an... | Mushr00m_Cunt | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Dont give mercy to those that commit extreme crimes to you. In other words, I dont believe revenge is bad if the crime is big
I want people to change my view and convince me revenge is bad.
Lets look at the philosophy media tries to spread and teach. They always say that revenge leaves you with nothing in the e... |
You should always strive to forgive because forgiveness means peace *for your mind*. You can forgive and still sentence someone to prison.
Forgiveness doesn’t equal saying the crime wasn’t bad or the criminal doesn’t deserve punishment.
Forgiveness is *for you*.
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Hmm good point but there are time where people... | Someone gets drunk and runs over your kid. Tragic. Do you think its right for you to kill their child, as a means of teaching them a lesson?
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Ahh good situation. I guess in that case their wouldn't be revenge. You would just accept how cruel the situation is.
But still not all crimes or actions are 'Accidents' so... | t24ax7 | CMV: Dont give mercy to those that commit extreme crimes to you. In other words, I dont believe revenge is bad if the crime is big | I want people to change my view and convince me revenge is bad.
Lets look at the philosophy media tries to spread and teach. They always say that revenge leaves you with nothing in the end. How is that even possible? Wouldnt you feel relief you punished the person that was responsible for a crime? wouldn't you feel r... | theassassin53035 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If they are all equally humanely (or inhumanely) killed, there is nothing that makes the consumption of cat meat, dog meat, horse meat, dolphin meat, etc. any more or less moral than the consumption of pork, poultry, beef, fish or mutton.
As someone once said, "People get outraged about dolphins being caught in t... | The difference with the dolphin example is that they aren't fishing for dolphins. They are fishing for tuna and the dolphins get caught in the nets and killed for no other reason than being in the wrong place wrong time.
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True, but that's true of almost any form of fishing. When shrimp fishers catch shrimp with n... | My issue is with your second criterion - intelligence. You saying that because people are _hypocritical_ around this moral dimension, the moral dimension is negated. However, simply being hypocritical doesn't negate a moral issue - it just means people don't perfectly apply moral principles.
Case in point, most folk... | 17wrmkj | CMV: If they are all equally humanely (or inhumanely) killed, there is nothing that makes the consumption of cat meat, dog meat, horse meat, dolphin meat, etc. any more or less moral than the consumption of pork, poultry, beef, fish or mutton. | As someone once said, "People get outraged about dolphins being caught in tuna nets, but why aren't they outraged about the tuna being caught in tuna nets?"
There is no valid argument given as for why certain animals should be ethical to consume as meat and others should not be (other than, perhaps, that certain anima... | SteadfastEnd | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We need to stop labeling ourselves because labeling causes separatism which breeds violence.
`When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you sep... | Because it also brings people close together. People bond with people with the same label. It also is good for identifying things. Someone who is indian has a different culture than a german. identifying as one or the other just says which culture you are from and the practices or things you might value.
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Like the... | We can't stop labeling. Its actually impossible in a world with intelligent discussion. The second someone informed the group they believed in god, there became theists, atheists, and agnostics.
Even if you label them "the people who believe x", you are still pushing a label onto them. Just a longer one that doesn't ... | l4n46n | CMV: We need to stop labeling ourselves because labeling causes separatism which breeds violence. | `When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking... | BUCKFUDDERSANONYMOUS | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Hazbin Hotel is in line with the Christian philosophy.
For those who do not know, or know little about it, Hazbin Hotel is a 2D animated adult television series that follows the princess of hell, Charlie, in her efforts to create a hotel where damned sinners can be rehabilitated to enter heaven. The story has a q... | Hazbin directly contradicts a view of Christianity that hell is a permanent and everlasting punishment designed and maintained by a perfect creator.
It is in line with older Christian ideas such as the Gospel of Peter, which had Jesus announce that Hel was temporary. It also fits with gnostic traditions of hel being t... | > I do not see the show this way, because the actual messages of the series are about inclusivity, forgiveness, redemption and open-mindedness, which are themes emphasized heavily by the bible itself.
Those are *not* themes universally pitched by the Bible at all. Inclusivity is not something the Bible generally suppo... | 1mzdyu9 | CMV: Hazbin Hotel is in line with the Christian philosophy. | For those who do not know, or know little about it, Hazbin Hotel is a 2D animated adult television series that follows the princess of hell, Charlie, in her efforts to create a hotel where damned sinners can be rehabilitated to enter heaven. The story has a quirky animation style, crude humor, anthropomorphic character... | HumanLuc | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Polygamy Should Not Be Illegal
My View:
The prohibition against polygamy is dated and unnecessary in 2024. It stems from a time of religious bigotry and intolerance, when we did not "live and let live" when only consenting adults were involved. The things that polygamists do that are morally wrong (arranged chil... | Honestly the best reason aside from propensity for abuse and exploitation (which don't seem to convince you) is just administrative burden.
There's nothing stopping people from living in a polyamorous family structure. Have one man and twenty women or one woman and twenty men (or any other combination of numbers!). N... | It doesn't stem from a moral viewpoint but a legal one. It's illegal because it would create such a legal clusterfuck. Let's say a man is married to 2 different women. A divorce happens. How are assets divided? How does alimony work? What if the common spouse dies, how does inheritance work? What about social welfare s... | 1eqj2nj | CMV: Polygamy Should Not Be Illegal | My View:
The prohibition against polygamy is dated and unnecessary in 2024. It stems from a time of religious bigotry and intolerance, when we did not "live and let live" when only consenting adults were involved. The things that polygamists do that are morally wrong (arranged child marriages for ex) are all illegal i... | MalekithofAngmar | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: We should be morally and perhaps legally opposed to teens having intercourse with each other
Obviously, if one teenager were trying to rape another, we should be opposed to that, but that's not the topic that I'm trying to get at. Young teens, even if they were to engage "consensually", is something we should be ... | >Well first, we have to analyze why it's wrong for an adult to have intercourse with an underage person, even if the underage person "consented". The typicaly answer given is that children cannot provide informed consent, and that is correct
You misunderstand why it's wrong for an adult to have sex with an underage pe... | Teens having sex with each other is perfectly normal
They can give consent if they are both above 13 years old and since they are the same age it’s 100% ok.
Having sex while going through puberty and after it is perfectly normal and shouldn’t be looked down apon.
I think all public schools should have condoms in th... | rq02o9 | CMV: We should be morally and perhaps legally opposed to teens having intercourse with each other | Obviously, if one teenager were trying to rape another, we should be opposed to that, but that's not the topic that I'm trying to get at. Young teens, even if they were to engage "consensually", is something we should be morally and arguably legally opposed to. But why do I think this? Well first, we have to analyze wh... | GestapoTakeMeAway | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Porn and OF should both be totally banned and prosecution efforts should be focused against the mostly male customer base.
The reason why I want to ban these things is because they are forms of moral degeneracy and actively destroy society from the ground up.
Think about it. There are so many ways to have fun. ... | How is it your business?
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The degeneration of moral fabric is everyone's business. The fact that such a disgusting thing is normalized is yet again everyone's business.
Even then, what do you say about the tangible effects of porn or OF? It makes people lonelier and causes sexual dysfunction. It cheapens the val... | Why should your morality be what we have to follow?
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In general, I don't think society should have to follow my morality. I'm personally against abortion but very pro choice politically. Ditto with alcohol. Porn and OF on the other hand have tangible negative effects on both the lives of the consumers and the prod... | 1g61mg0 | CMV: Porn and OF should both be totally banned and prosecution efforts should be focused against the mostly male customer base. | The reason why I want to ban these things is because they are forms of moral degeneracy and actively destroy society from the ground up.
Think about it. There are so many ways to have fun. You can go out with friends or go on a solo trip to the city. Of course, these are not mutually exclusive with being a porn watch... | Early-Possibility367 | 5 | 5 | [
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