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CMV: It Is Unwise for Supporters of Kamala Harris to Mock Undecided Voters
I was inspired to write this by an exchange I had regarding this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/s/E2Mj2dgkA8. As you can see the OP made a big hit. Over 1000 upvotes at the time I write this.
But take a second to consider the i... | You seem to not understand the meme you referenced.
That meme isn't talking about undecided voters.
That meme is talking about how media companies are using groups of Trump supporters and then calling those Trump supporters undecided voters.
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I really doubt that the New York Times is in the tank for Trump
---... | >“I would hate to deny a person their right to vote but if a person can’t figure out why voting for Trump is bad…”
Could you clarify what's wrong with this sentiment, exactly? It doesn't seem unreasonable to think that voting for Trump is self-evidently objectionable.
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Well, they way the person in question put it... | 1g5y5nf | CMV: It Is Unwise for Supporters of Kamala Harris to Mock Undecided Voters | I was inspired to write this by an exchange I had regarding this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/s/E2Mj2dgkA8. As you can see the OP made a big hit. Over 1000 upvotes at the time I write this.
But take a second to consider the implications of that meme: it suggests that there are only two groups that exi... | BluePillUprising | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the Native Americans were not wrong to scalp colonizers, even the innocent ones
You lose your land, your people, your culture is being absorbed, and those who took everything from you keep coming to take more… no matter how friendly they may come, all that will follow is the literal end to everything you know and... | Yea man raping women as you scalp there husbands and sons in front of them, while selling there daughters into slavery because these poor dirt farmers farmed in the wrong land is totally justified......
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If they let the settlers live, they would die. As in, by the time scalping really picked up as a trend, it was ... | You haven't given any reason why this also applies to innocent people.
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It comes with the implication of them being settlers. Many of them were unwittingly moving to places in the American countryside to farm amongst other things. No goals relating to colonialism.
But, still. Just by participating in colonial exp... | 17wspvf | CMV: the Native Americans were not wrong to scalp colonizers, even the innocent ones | You lose your land, your people, your culture is being absorbed, and those who took everything from you keep coming to take more… no matter how friendly they may come, all that will follow is the literal end to everything you know and love.
Different Native American groups were completely justified in targeting/killin... | The_god_testicle | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Everyone ‘victim blames’ to some extent and it’s a necessary thing to do
First of all I think people pretty often confuse victim blaming with crime prevention, caution and situational awareness. Just because someone asks for details on a situation doesn’t mean they are suggesting whatever happened to you should’v... | You are not a victim until someone does you intentional harm. Getting hit by a car is an accident. You are not a victim. Getting ruffied in a club and raped makes you a victim.
People who say, you should have been more careful in the second case are victim blaming and there is no reason for that. It is not common sen... | Please define what victim blaming means to you so we can change your view on whether everyone does it or not
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Its in my very first paragraph
>First of all I think people pretty often confuse victim blaming with **crime prevention, caution and situational awareness**.
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That doesn't define 'victim blaming '
-... | 1mz0mck | CMV: Everyone ‘victim blames’ to some extent and it’s a necessary thing to do | First of all I think people pretty often confuse victim blaming with crime prevention, caution and situational awareness. Just because someone asks for details on a situation doesn’t mean they are suggesting whatever happened to you should’ve happened. It’s just the way that people dialogue: if you think back to most c... | PuzzleheadedShoe5829 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Agency doesn't matter in regard to economics or the distribution of resources.
**EDIT: To clarify, I am talking about agency in a moral/philosophical sense, NOT in a practical or economic sense. I agree that agency absolutely matters when it comes to economics and practical effects of policies, I specifically am ... | [deleted]
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> Now let's say that instead of taking $10 from the billionaire, you took $100 million. The billionaire now has an expectation that his future earnings will be less. As a result, his behavior will change accordingly. Maybe he'll be more likely to stuff more of his money overseas to avoid someone taking... | >Let's say there is a situation in which there are two men. One of which is a billionaire, and the other of which is in absolute poverty and hasn't eaten a single bite of food in days. The state could take $10 from the billionaire, from which he would not even notice, and give it to the hungry man so that he can eat. T... | l4vqty | CMV: Agency doesn't matter in regard to economics or the distribution of resources. | **EDIT: To clarify, I am talking about agency in a moral/philosophical sense, NOT in a practical or economic sense. I agree that agency absolutely matters when it comes to economics and practical effects of policies, I specifically am talking about agency in regard to the moral underpinnings of this issue.**
Political... | ReadSeparate | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It doesn't matter if a country has a lot of processed food, we should not blame overweight issues on those as long as fresh food exists
As long as a country has a 'grocery' aisle, I really don't get blaming overweight on that. Now, I understand 'food' deserts exist. Ok. But if there's no grocery store, there's no... | > But if there's no grocery store, there's no aisle for microwaved processed food either
some places will have a cvs with processed foods within walking distance, but no grocery store.
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Just how bad is it? I think you are on the right track. I just need some info
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>Just how bad is it?
Bad:
[Mapping Food D... | The core of your argument seems to be, we have a societal problem but we shouldn't focus on that because we can just place the blame on individuals.
Why do you believe this is the best way to discuss solutions for societal issues?
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It's not a societal issue. It's an individual issue.
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Is anything a societal... | 17wpcxu | CMV: It doesn't matter if a country has a lot of processed food, we should not blame overweight issues on those as long as fresh food exists | As long as a country has a 'grocery' aisle, I really don't get blaming overweight on that. Now, I understand 'food' deserts exist. Ok. But if there's no grocery store, there's no aisle for microwaved processed food either.
Like a lot of people say chips etc are unhealthy. Don't buy them then. My issue isn't the ... | donotholdyourbreath | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Student loan forgiveness is the hot new way to say $3 trillion bank bailout
My view is simple, the biggest benefactor in any loan forgiveness plan is the banks. Money that may or may not be paid back over time are instantly recovered for the banks to be reinvested for their next big scheme.
Forgiving student lo... | I'm pretty sure that everyone pushing for student loan forgiveness is also pushing for changes to the cost of college so that another loan bubble isn't created.
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Nobody has any ideas on making college more affordable, just wiping out debt for some people to bring them to the voting booth. The system, like healthca... | Isn’t the single largest holder of student loans the department of education, not the banks. Why is it a bank bailout?
>What does it do for making college affordable? What does it do for the millions that already paid off their loans or never took any? What does it do for people and families that have had to go withou... | ew4z64 | CMV: Student loan forgiveness is the hot new way to say $3 trillion bank bailout | My view is simple, the biggest benefactor in any loan forgiveness plan is the banks. Money that may or may not be paid back over time are instantly recovered for the banks to be reinvested for their next big scheme.
Forgiving student loans helps millions of Americans, lenders have taken advantage of a situation while... | theresourcefulKman | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Human well being doesn't depend on the environment much
In the beginning there were the first hominids. They went out and picked food directly from the environment, and so were very dependent on it. Small changes in weather or in wildlife could make or break them.
But slowly they started inventing things that m... | What do you see as the point of this view? What is the consequence of thinking this way? Why is it helpful?
You seem to acknowledge that the impact of environmental change will harm some humans more than others, but you don’t really address this in a satisfactory way. You characterise this inequality as “well, some po... | I take it you haven’t seen any of the studies on what would happen if bees went extinct. Or if ants went extinct. Every study on if either of those insects went extinct show that the world would end in a hurry or become a barren wasteland. That would be a massive problem for human well being.
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But slowly they started inventing things that made them less dependent on the fickle environment. They invent... | donaldhobson | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Socialism does not create wealth
Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs.
In a... | In this argument, how do you define "wealth"? I appreciate that you've clearly defined Socialism to help us, but that is only one part of the argument.
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Edit which is a good idea as the wealthy have way to much to the point where they can’t even spend it all.
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> The point is to redistribute the wealth not create it.
Yes, I got that. But you need to have wealth first.
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How is wealth "created" when the re... | e7d48g | CMV: Socialism does not create wealth | Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs.
In a purely socialist system, all legal pro... | tkyjonathan | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Artists have no reason to be upset at people comparing them to other artists, when in an accurate, non-insulting way.
Comparisons are just pointing out similarities. What's harmful about that? Life is full of coincidences, so such things should be accepted. The only problems I could see coming up are if the compa... | think of it this way, most artists create something original and unique and by comparing their work to someone else's you are saying it is neither original or unique.
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Ok. Where's the problem?
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Well art is often unique even if similar so by focusing on comparisons with already existing art, it takes focus fro... | Have you considered a comparison that is delivered in an accurate, non-insulting way, but has the effect of being insulting? For instance, if you compared one artist to a second artist that the first considers a bad artist, it would be insulting to the first artist.
Imagine a more insidious comparison: "Your art remi... | t1e0go | CMV: Artists have no reason to be upset at people comparing them to other artists, when in an accurate, non-insulting way. | Comparisons are just pointing out similarities. What's harmful about that? Life is full of coincidences, so such things should be accepted. The only problems I could see coming up are if the comparer started expecting the two artists' work to be exactly the same, or if the artist started to believe they should try to b... | Casey_Grey | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Chopsticks are a very capable form of cutlery, more often than not superior to the knife–fork–spoon combination
My view is obviously not that there is no place where k.f.s. would be superior, but I have sometimes seen the view enunciated that k.f.s. is almost strictly superior to chopsticks, and that there is no ... | This is obviously flawed logic.
1)k.f.s is intuitive. Everyone with at least one working hand can immediately understand how to use them.
2) I think you misunderstand why finger foods are consumed by hand. These are typically eaten with out utensils because they do not make a mess of ones hands. In fact the only me... | [deleted]
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> Chopsticks entail that the food being eaten be easily eatable with chopsticks.
As I pointed out, many things commonly eaten without are far easier to eat with chopsticks.
> That would mean no cutting involved, and the food is both nonliquid (not a soup or stew) and broken up into bite size pieces.
... | n1bjvx | CMV: Chopsticks are a very capable form of cutlery, more often than not superior to the knife–fork–spoon combination | My view is obviously not that there is no place where k.f.s. would be superior, but I have sometimes seen the view enunciated that k.f.s. is almost strictly superior to chopsticks, and that there is no real reason to ever use the latter over the former, by which I strongly disagree, and I would submit that neaqrly all ... | behold_the_castrato | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Accepting someone cannot co-exist with also wanting them to change their unhealthy behaviors
There's a phrase "I accept you for who you are" and it doesn't make sense also which has started this discussion of mine.
If you're accepting someone then it means you're also saying you're going to be okay with how they... | I accept this meal as it is (eats steak). But I wish the chef had used a bit more salt.
Acceptance doesn't mean something is perfect. It means you accept it.
Perfect would be a unbelievable standard anyway, and probably extremely unhealthy for the person doing the accepting and the person accepted, both.
But fina... | Acceptance doesn't mean you think something is perfect, it means you think it's good enough.
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That's not what OP is talking about though. In OP's case, acceptance still isn't good enough, because it has to be changed.
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Yeah this! Like how is it acceptance if is has to be changed!
Thank you for the words! | 1myuae5 | CMV: Accepting someone cannot co-exist with also wanting them to change their unhealthy behaviors | There's a phrase "I accept you for who you are" and it doesn't make sense also which has started this discussion of mine.
If you're accepting someone then it means you're also saying you're going to be okay with how they are in every way possible but if you want them to *change* certain behaviors these can include unh... | Dammit_maskey | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Aladdin And The Little Mermaid Are Inexplicably The Best Musicals Ever
This has been an opinion percolating around my head for decades: Disney's Aladdin and The Little Mermaid animated movies are the best musicals of all times hands down head and shoulder above everything else and I can't explain it.
While I gre... | They were both done by the same artist.
Howard Elliott Ashman (May 17, 1950 – March 14, 1991) was an American playwright, lyricist and stage director. He collaborated with composer Alan Menken on several works and is most widely known for his work on feature films for Walt Disney Animation Studios, for which Ashman wr... | What kindsa musicals have you seen? It sounds like you're exclusively knowledgeable of major film musicals. I dunno what your taste is like, but Sondheim is pretty great. Conveniently, one of his best musicals, Into the Woods, just straight up has the [entire proshot up on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqCsQ... | t1d0ya | CMV: Aladdin And The Little Mermaid Are Inexplicably The Best Musicals Ever | This has been an opinion percolating around my head for decades: Disney's Aladdin and The Little Mermaid animated movies are the best musicals of all times hands down head and shoulder above everything else and I can't explain it.
While I grew up on those two throughout the years I've been subtly disappointed by the m... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: tipping leads to worse service
I'm from an European country but have also lived in US for a few years. I'm not going to argue whether tips make sense as a practice or economically, just how they effect the quality of service.
It is commonly believed that US waitstaff goes out of their way because of the incenti... | [removed]
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Sure, and my favorite thing in NY are the delis. But you're kind of supporting my point here, I think you need to debate me :)
I'm not saying ban tipping because I assume a total system overhaul would cause chaos in the system and US customers are used to it. I'm just arguing that it doesnt lead to a b... | [removed]
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I think Americans just dont get that you need to call the staff when you need them. I guess this point might be a matter of preference between us who prefer being left in peace and just having the waiter in visible distance to call when required over people who want their waiters to appear every few sec... | e7dqbc | CMV: tipping leads to worse service | I'm from an European country but have also lived in US for a few years. I'm not going to argue whether tips make sense as a practice or economically, just how they effect the quality of service.
It is commonly believed that US waitstaff goes out of their way because of the incentive that is the tips, but here I will ... | MansonsDaughter | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: This hatred against hedge funds is slightly misplaced
I'm just going to list some reasons:
1) The positive effect hedge funds has on the market is that when they short stocks, they provide the only counterbalance to the market wanting to sell them when the stocks starts to crash. The way this works is they borro... | > 1) The positive effect hedge funds has on the market is that when they short stocks, they provide the only counterbalance to the market wanting to sell them when the stocks starts to crash. The way this works is they borrow the stock to short it when the price is high, and then when the price lowers, they have to buy... | > 2) Stock market is open competition. Anyone can invest in stocks or short stocks to make money. If someone is good at it and shorts at the right time they make money. What's wrong with that?
Well we've just seen that this isn't how it works. Once the little guy starts to invest and actually make money it's shutting ... | l9hlvk | CMV: This hatred against hedge funds is slightly misplaced | I'm just going to list some reasons:
1) The positive effect hedge funds has on the market is that when they short stocks, they provide the only counterbalance to the market wanting to sell them when the stocks starts to crash. The way this works is they borrow the stock to short it when the price is high, and then whe... | noxbl | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: removing geographical borders completely from around the world, and adopting a system similar to what the EU and US have today in terms or political governance will allow for more peace
Almost every country around the world has immigrants or citizens from other ethnicities and backgrounds than the indeginous peop... | [deleted]
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I don't think there should be jurisdictions, there should be a universal law, similar to what exists in the UN today for human rights. I think everyone can agree about what is generally right or wrong in a criminal sense, or what makes a society work, like traffic lights, criminal laws for murder, terro... | Wouldn't this also affect democracy? What about a state's heslthcare system for instance? If everyone could go wherever they wanted, africa would have no one living there and UE would turninto an absolute trash pit where immigrants just live on the streets because there is no longer any housing/jobs for them.
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My ... | t1a1xs | CMV: removing geographical borders completely from around the world, and adopting a system similar to what the EU and US have today in terms or political governance will allow for more peace | Almost every country around the world has immigrants or citizens from other ethnicities and backgrounds than the indeginous people, learning two or multiple languages is already a skill a big part of people already have or are working towards as globalization is taking over through social media, global trade and global... | bayan963 | 3 | 3 | [
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It's okay to hold such a view that there is benefit. Arguably people make those views all the time. But how is it beneficial to try today when it's not pos... | t1a1xs | CMV: removing geographical borders completely from around the world, and adopting a system similar to what the EU and US have today in terms or political governance will allow for more peace | Almost every country around the world has immigrants or citizens from other ethnicities and backgrounds than the indeginous people, learning two or multiple languages is already a skill a big part of people already have or are working towards as globalization is taking over through social media, global trade and global... | bayan963 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: removing geographical borders completely from around the world, and adopting a system similar to what the EU and US have today in terms or political governance will allow for more peace
Almost every country around the world has immigrants or citizens from other ethnicities and backgrounds than the indeginous peop... | Wouldn't this also mean free reign for cartel, mafia, warlord, religious extremist, and political extremist organisations to spread their wealth, power, and influence? Would mass migrations from poor to rich countries not cause huge issues (housing, etc.) and resentment? Would minority groups be able to migrate safely ... | Wouldn't this also affect democracy? What about a state's heslthcare system for instance? If everyone could go wherever they wanted, africa would have no one living there and UE would turninto an absolute trash pit where immigrants just live on the streets because there is no longer any housing/jobs for them.
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CMV: The president has far too much power.
The purpose of the President, or the executive branch in general, is to execute the laws and bills passed by congress.
What that says to me, is that he’s just here to make sure what’s been decided gets done.
The power of the President to pardon people is absolutely appallin... | An executive order can be blocked by Congress, so it's not ultimate power. They just need to have the will to do it.
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Executive orders only affect the executive branch. The President couldn't sign an order saying that Jim Citizen must ... | See Alexander Hamilton’s Federalist No. 74 for the justification of the presidential pardon. It’s practically unassailable.
https://guides.loc.gov/federalist-papers/text-71-80#s-lg-box-wrapper-25493466
> But the principal argument for reposing the power of pardoning in this case to the Chief Magistrate is this: in s... | l4um8o | CMV: The president has far too much power. | The purpose of the President, or the executive branch in general, is to execute the laws and bills passed by congress.
What that says to me, is that he’s just here to make sure what’s been decided gets done.
The power of the President to pardon people is absolutely appalling to me. We have a justice system, how can s... | SaltySpursSupporter | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Interfaith dating/marital relationships are not feasible
An interfaith relationship is defined as a romantic relationship where the romantic partners do not share the same faith. Personally I want to embrace and celebrate interfaith relationships, but there are concerns that I have about these kinds of relationsh... | > Lastly, we have to approach how books like the Torah, Bible, and Quran have to say about interfaith relationships. Many people of Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faith take a strict and literal interpretation of their holy books. Let's look at the Bible's stance on interfaith relationships. 2 Corinthians 6:14 says…
T... | At what point do you draw the line? Is it 'against the good Book' to be friends with a non-Christian? Should one cut off all contact not from other Christians? What about the various sects of Christianity?
Further, yes there are some people who strictly interpret their holy books. But there are just as many who couldn... | 9i26yu | CMV: Interfaith dating/marital relationships are not feasible | An interfaith relationship is defined as a romantic relationship where the romantic partners do not share the same faith. Personally I want to embrace and celebrate interfaith relationships, but there are concerns that I have about these kinds of relationships. First is the cultural clash between people of two differen... | mgunt | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: No one will be nostalgic for the 2020s
I don't mean people being ironic about being nostalgic about the 2020s, when, however worse it gets in 15-20 years, we can look back and say, "It wasn't this bad then." I'm talking about the feeling of nostalgia. The way you can look at pictures and see the hair, and the ban... | i am already nostalgic for the 2020s (early 2020s, at least, i.e. covid)
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Unironically the best time of my life. Paid heaps of money to “shelter in place” and I could be antisocial without feeling bad because I was doing my part to “stop of spread”. I had no stress…. | I’m already nostalgic about having all the guys be online discord gaming 24/7 over covid.
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Delta | 1mykrcl | CMV: No one will be nostalgic for the 2020s | I don't mean people being ironic about being nostalgic about the 2020s, when, however worse it gets in 15-20 years, we can look back and say, "It wasn't this bad then." I'm talking about the feeling of nostalgia. The way you can look at pictures and see the hair, and the band names on their clothing, and the cars, comp... | EmpireStrikes1st | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The emphasis on customer service and the customer is always right needs to end.
Customers should expect to get the service or product they paid for that is all.
Workers should be allowed to do their job and not have to baby adults by pretending to care or cater to their ever want. Customer gets rude, employee ca... | Customer service is just that... servicing the customer. That doesn't mean you need to them a handy with every purchase over $5, but it certainly means and is most likely in your job description, that you should accommodate the customer to the best of your ability.
And remember, you're a customer too... and I'm sure t... | >Talking to you is not in my job description finish your transaction and leave me the fuck alone
If there is no need to talk to the customer, odds are good that the employee can be replaced by a self-serve kiosk. Problem solved, I guess, so long as you aren't the one in need of a job.
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You apparently haven't work... | t1659n | CMV: The emphasis on customer service and the customer is always right needs to end. | Customers should expect to get the service or product they paid for that is all.
Workers should be allowed to do their job and not have to baby adults by pretending to care or cater to their ever want. Customer gets rude, employee can be rude back. Customer gets physical, employee can get physical back, customer break... | Andalib_Odulate | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Today’s society is unfulfilling and needs change.
The world we are living in today is one that was never intended to happen. We no longer have any real purpose besides working jobs for paper that doesn’t really mean anything in order to buy things we do not need, and food we did not earn. Living in today’s world ... | What do you think was the purpose of life in past civilizations, beyond just survival?
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At least they had the purpose of survival. Today with survival basically all but guaranteed our greatest enemy is degenerative illness and heart disease not to mention suicide and self harm being the second leading cause of sui... | You talk a lot about "today" as if in some moment of history society was more "fulfilling". What time period do you think had a society that was more able to "fulfill" than today and why?
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I’m not sure which time period, but other time periods had meaningful events, and honorable causes to fight for. In other tim... | rpx45k | CMV: Today’s society is unfulfilling and needs change. | The world we are living in today is one that was never intended to happen. We no longer have any real purpose besides working jobs for paper that doesn’t really mean anything in order to buy things we do not need, and food we did not earn. Living in today’s world breeds a deep feeling of unfulfillment in one’s life, le... | SnooComics2862 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Today’s society is unfulfilling and needs change.
The world we are living in today is one that was never intended to happen. We no longer have any real purpose besides working jobs for paper that doesn’t really mean anything in order to buy things we do not need, and food we did not earn. Living in today’s world ... | You talk a lot about "today" as if in some moment of history society was more "fulfilling". What time period do you think had a society that was more able to "fulfill" than today and why?
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At least they had the purpose of survival. Today with survival basically all but guaranteed our greatest enemy is degenerative illness and heart disease not to mention suicide and self harm being the second leading cause of sui... | rpx45k | CMV: Today’s society is unfulfilling and needs change. | The world we are living in today is one that was never intended to happen. We no longer have any real purpose besides working jobs for paper that doesn’t really mean anything in order to buy things we do not need, and food we did not earn. Living in today’s world breeds a deep feeling of unfulfillment in one’s life, le... | SnooComics2862 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It is immoral to discourage people from using safe alternative medicine treatments as placebo
I commonly see people trying to debunk alternative medicine to the people using said treatments. For example Crystals - Obviously they have no actual healing abilities - but the body does, and if all somebody needs is pl... | >most of the time, alternative medicines are a safer and cheaper way to get the placebo effect than taking actual medicine with multiple side effects and results no better than placebo.
Can you give an example of this?
I see a difference between natural medicines (herbs) and homeopathy and I want to make sure I under... | >But most of the time, alternative medicines are a safer and cheaper way to get the placebo effect than taking actual medicine with multiple side effects and results no better than placebo.
This is a pretty sweeping statement. There are some medicines with questionable track records on on efficacy vs placebo (e.g. ben... | e757qo | CMV: It is immoral to discourage people from using safe alternative medicine treatments as placebo | I commonly see people trying to debunk alternative medicine to the people using said treatments. For example Crystals - Obviously they have no actual healing abilities - but the body does, and if all somebody needs is placebo then using something that has 0 effects besides placebo is actually the best case scenario.
... | CyclicSC | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Men don't kill women who won't sleep with them as often as claimed
I hear this line repeated all the time. That women are in danger of men killing and/or raping them if they refuse to sleep with them. And while I am not denying that rape does happen, statistically, strangers won't rape you, it is friends and fami... | The actual claim is that "...**women are more likely to be killed by an intimate partner (husband, boyfriend, same-sex partner, or ex) than by anyone else** (Catalano, 2013; Violence Policy Center, 2015). Approximately 2 out of 5 female murder victims are killed by an intimate partner (Cooper & Smith, 2011)."
Not that... | Are you saying 'no' or 'I don't know either way'?
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I’m saying based on my understanding, no, men don’t kill women who tell them no at a rate women need to be worried about in the context of strangers
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So what do you think the numbers are, and would would be the smallest worrying number?
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... | 1epwxiy | CMV: Men don't kill women who won't sleep with them as often as claimed | I hear this line repeated all the time. That women are in danger of men killing and/or raping them if they refuse to sleep with them. And while I am not denying that rape does happen, statistically, strangers won't rape you, it is friends and family, people you trust.
As for the main point though, the claim that wome... | justafanofz | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: All Parents and or Legal Guardians of school shooters should be held criminally liable.
It's the responsibility of the Parents to make sure that their children are doing okay physically, mentally, and emotionally and that they are not a danger to themselves or others. If their child goes and shoots up a school th... | 1. Constitutional right. Now if they are just leaving guns out willy nilly and not in a safe, **maybe** we can have that discussion.
2. Define clear evidence, besides a specific/detailed threat.
3. And what if they were never warned?
4. I believe the cases of the school shooter going home after are few and far bet... | Why only school shooters? Why not send parents to jail for all crimes committed by their children? Grandparents too yeah? Afterall, it's their responsibility to raise good parents.
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CMV: The insistence that Dems must nominate a white male for president in 2028 is overblown
So, I wanted to make this post as kind of a response to at least two other posts I've seen on her in the past week. These posts essentially make the claim that, in order to win the presidency again in 2028, Dems need to nominat... | The problem you have to consider is the non-political folks like I know people who voted in the last election didn't know Harris was running until a few days before the election.
These are the folks that want a white male.
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How big of a demographic group are they really, though? I don't doubt that ignorant, non... | They probably don't *have to*, but it'd still be a good idea. I don't want to take any more chances at this point
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CMV: (!Trigger Warning!) (!Very Hot Take!) The reason why African-Americans are targeted more by law enforcement isn't due to proactive racist factors. Its a rational reaction to the reality that African-Americans are proportionally more likely to commit crimes.
I'm willing to risk being downvoted or even banned, but ... | Or it could also be that African Americans commit crimes at a similar rate to other people, and they're just caught more often because law enforcement targets them more often, creating the illusion that they commit more crimes, in turn creating a positive feedback loop where a certain community is policed more, leading... | How do you account for the self fulfilling prophecy of police harassing black people more will result in more convictions?
Let’s say in an area where pot is illegal you still have 10% of the population still smoking pot and that is even across all demographics. But if police are 3x as likely to search a black perso... | n08loc | CMV: (!Trigger Warning!) (!Very Hot Take!) The reason why African-Americans are targeted more by law enforcement isn't due to proactive racist factors. Its a rational reaction to the reality that African-Americans are proportionally more likely to commit crimes. | I'm willing to risk being downvoted or even banned, but all that proves is those in disagreement would rather shut down dialogue rather than to actually prove me wrong.
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CMV: Secular "moral" codes don't make any sense. If we're all just hyper-evolved apes, we should basically behave like it and care only about self-interest
I'm Catholic, first of all, but I have a lot of debates with secular friends. They try to convince me that religion isn't necessary to be a moral person. Sure, I a... | >But if atheists / secularists are right? We're all just hyperevolved apes? Then it seems to me that morality can't actually exist, not in any meaningful way.
I'm an atheist and I agree, there is no absolute objective moral "rules" because it can't be written down anywhere and can't be enforced by anything.
>Many ha... | Isn't the gist of the Bible "our god is the right one so we're going to kill you if you disagree"?
How come you don't kill people now?
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CMV: Russia annexing Ukraine is ultimately a good thing for world peace.
Ever since 1991 the United States, The West and the EU has enjoyed a global hegemony with the US dictating world politics and intervening where it suits them for example the Iraq War, Afghanistan and Libya. The rise of other nations in recent yea... | What about what the people of Ukraine want? They’re not gonna rollover and just be taken. Years of infighting can destabilize the region.
What about other former Soviet Union nations? If the world let’s Ukraine get gobbled up what’s to stop Russia from trying to gobble up someone else without external interference al... | Why would Russia suddenly become a superpower by annexing a single country? Even if everything else you say is true, and a counterbalance to the US would improve the situation, annexing a single country will not turn Russia into a superpower more than it already is, especially one like Ukraine.
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CMV: Economic Sanctions a long term solution for a potentially short term problem rendering them largely ineffective.
I was looking into this since this whole war in Ukraine things is really picking up. It seemed like a lot of countries were like "Oh, you better not, cause sanctions", but what do sanctions really do? ... | Their economy dropped by 33%. I think that speaks for itself.
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How do you attack a country armed with nukes without sustaining heavy losses? You fuck up their economy so bad and hope it would cause a civil war.
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CMV: If you pirate the music of your favorite music artists and spend the 10€/Month instead of Spotify Premium for Merch and Concert Tickets, the artists gets more money!
### 1. The way the Streaming industry pays artists is completely rigged for small creator's
If i buy merch or concert tickets who gets the money? L... | Who 100% listens to one artist?
While you are technically right, skipping the greedier middle man will get more money to that artist.
Unless you are very diligent with portioning out your merch to the appropriate artists, some will inevitably get less.
Also also, do you not share your Spotify premium with a bunch of... | why aren't you straight up buying their music instead of pirating it?
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Lol yeah this is getting rough | n0jwsj | CMV: If you pirate the music of your favorite music artists and spend the 10€/Month instead of Spotify Premium for Merch and Concert Tickets, the artists gets more money! | ### 1. The way the Streaming industry pays artists is completely rigged for small creator's
If i buy merch or concert tickets who gets the money? Let's say 1/3 goes to the T-Shirt producer / concert location owner and 2/3 goes to the artist+management
If you buy Spotify Premium and you listen 100% to one creator who ... | styrianer | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Dance and performative events like 'Breaking' shouldn't be in the Olympics
With all the Raygun crap and discussion around Breaking in the Olympics, I don't understand how creative/subjective performative events like Dance and Dressage are part of the Olympics. They don't seem like sports.
I heard that Ballroom ... | >the presentation of these events highlights difficult moves and then grades them against execution. It is presented with judges and there seems to be a process for quantifying clear cut winners and losers and has mutliple judges to iron out subjectivity. The same could be said of diving.
Wouldn't breaking be capable... | All sports and athletic feats are "performative" in some sense.
Could you maybe refine your terms?
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>where is the line?
But why should there be a line?
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CMV: “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem” is invalid argument
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CMV: “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem” is invalid argument
Many times when discussing social issues, activists, especially those on the Left, will either explicitly or implicitly say “if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.” The issue, however, is that this is a t... | Well, I believe they would argue that many, if not all, the issues they fight for are equivalent to direct harm. For example, apathy on the the part of people with regard to systemic racism. The argument with systemic racism is that the system/status quo as it currently exists is racist by nature. Meaning that, unless ... | I think it makes sense in certain contexts, especially in contexts where inaction is impossible, or tacitly supports the other side. Let's consider an issue like women's suffrage (chosen to be presumably non-inflammatory)
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CMV: Ukraine's separatist regions have a right to independence and should be recognized internationally.
Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk are not Ukrainian in any meaningful sense. Their borders were drawn arbitrarily by Soviet dictators whose only interest was in keeping the country under their control. Ethnically, cultu... | Which borders weren’t constructed interested in keeping land under control? You don’t get to just step out of a country because your area doesn’t like that it’s inside of a border. Texas doesn’t get to leave Texas because it was originally not and now hypothetically doesn’t agree with being in the US since it’s culture... | >they are Russian and have constantly reaffirmed their desire to be separate from Western Ukraine.
They have literally never said such a thing until they were invaded by Russian 2014. I dare you to present any evidence for large scale demands for independence in Donetsk/Lugansk prior to 2014.
The "separatism" mov... | t0k7c1 | CMV: Ukraine's separatist regions have a right to independence and should be recognized internationally. | Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk are not Ukrainian in any meaningful sense. Their borders were drawn arbitrarily by Soviet dictators whose only interest was in keeping the country under their control. Ethnically, culturally, and linguistically, they are Russian and have constantly reaffirmed their desire to be separate fro... | Nixon_was_framed | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There's no such thing as an authoritarian leftist
I considered putting this in /r/unpopularopinion because it's definitely that, but really more than affirmation, I'm looking for someone that knows more than me to walk through my reasoning and point out flaws in it.
My degree includes some political science and ... | You're conflating authoritarianism / libertarianism with liberalism and conservatism. "Left" and "Right" are generally understood to be about the latter, not the former. Even the second two terms have pretty vague definitions.
A totalitarian state in which power was held entirely by a single person or a small group of... | So in your view, Ron Paul is far to the left of Joe Biden?
And here's the thing: if you read Stalin's writings when he was a student or revolutionary he was a leftist. He ran in leftist circles. What you would have to say to make your unidimensional theory work is "some percentage of people who talk like leftists an... | n0tju3 | CMV: There's no such thing as an authoritarian leftist | I considered putting this in /r/unpopularopinion because it's definitely that, but really more than affirmation, I'm looking for someone that knows more than me to walk through my reasoning and point out flaws in it.
My degree includes some political science and economics, but I didn't major in either. So, my understa... | astroskag | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We/I should wait to donate to charities of my choice as one large lump sum instead of calculating spare funds now and giving them out each year
What it says on the tin: I'm pretty much on the fence of whether it is better to accumulate money and donate it when it is a sizeable amount rather than donating a bit ea... | Nonprofit executive here. We most definitely prefer recurring donations for budgeting reasons. Smaller, regular amounts also seem to make it easier for people to give more. $1000 at the end of the year vs $100/mo we see more people able to manage that smaller monthly amount that ultimately allows them to give more.
--... | >From the charity POV, they'd probably appreciate $1000 rather than $10 over 100 years (because we're gonna live forever!)
I talked to someone recruiting from the ACLU about this. They prefer stable recurring donations because it makes it easier to to plan with more reliable income. A large lump sum is nice when you g... | e6ri8c | CMV: We/I should wait to donate to charities of my choice as one large lump sum instead of calculating spare funds now and giving them out each year | What it says on the tin: I'm pretty much on the fence of whether it is better to accumulate money and donate it when it is a sizeable amount rather than donating a bit each year. Certainly from a hassle POV, it's easier to calculate how much money you don't need once in some distant future rather than to do it every ye... | coryrenton | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If police officers are to be armed, then cases of killing by police should place the burden of proof on the officer
My rationale is simple: innocent until proven guilty. My proposal may sound like a blatant contradiction of this principle but I hope to illustrate why I don't believe it is.
In a criminal trial, t... | That’s already the standard. In my state one can only use deadly force to prevent imminent bodily harm or death to themselves or others, or to stop the commission of a violent crime. Since most police involved shootings involve people who have pulled weapons on police, those would be justified. OIS are already heavi... | [removed]
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In a criminal trial, t... | That’s already the standard. In my state one can only use deadly force to prevent imminent bodily harm or death to themselves or others, or to stop the commission of a violent crime. Since most police involved shootings involve people who have pulled weapons on police, those would be justified. OIS are already heavi... | [removed]
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CMV: If police officers are to be armed, then cases of killing by police should place the burden of proof on the officer
My rationale is simple: innocent until proven guilty. My proposal may sound like a blatant contradiction of this principle but I hope to illustrate why I don't believe it is.
In a criminal trial, t... | > My rationale is simple: innocent until proven guilty
Wouldnt such a change be effectively saying the cop is guilty until proven innocent?
I'm not debating whether or not they should have the burden of proof (yet), rather that no possible outcome from this change would have either party presumed innocent.
Ȁ... | [deleted]
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Maybe I didn't make it clear in the post, but the position of power isn't the relevant portion. My view is predicated on the notion of cops being issued deadly weapons with the permission to use them. The purpose of surgery is not to kill someone, but the purpose of a gun is. I am saying that the burden... | l8otbe | CMV: If police officers are to be armed, then cases of killing by police should place the burden of proof on the officer | My rationale is simple: innocent until proven guilty. My proposal may sound like a blatant contradiction of this principle but I hope to illustrate why I don't believe it is.
In a criminal trial, the burden of proof lies on the prosecution to demonstrate beyond all reasonable doubt that the defendant committed a certa... | Khal-Frodo | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: As the planet gets hotter, Canada is poised for an enormous increase in power, influence, population and wealth.
(Disclaimer: I'm not Canadian; I'm American. I'm sure there are many Canadian Redditors here in this sub who can CMV on this one and show me what I'm getting wrong.)
The planet will gradually grow hot... | I think you are overestimating just how warm it will get. Let's say by 2050 temperatures rise another 2-3 degrees. We can even be very liberal and project 5 degrees. That isn't enough to make freezing cold areas much more appealing for people.
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Given that a lot of Arctic ice is melting in ways that it has not befo... | people live in phoenix az, there is plenty of space in the midwest usa why couldn't they live in the middle of the country? there's water there and far as I'm aware it's not gonna be unlivable by 2070
[https://nca2014.globalchange.gov/report/regions/midwest](https://nca2014.globalchange.gov/report/regions/midwest)
fr... | 17v7s46 | CMV: As the planet gets hotter, Canada is poised for an enormous increase in power, influence, population and wealth. | (Disclaimer: I'm not Canadian; I'm American. I'm sure there are many Canadian Redditors here in this sub who can CMV on this one and show me what I'm getting wrong.)
The planet will gradually grow hotter and hotter, forcing people to migrate northwards for cooler climates.
From a resource standpoint, Canada has near... | SteadfastEnd | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique
https://old.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/szy9qd/_/
Far be it from me to agree with anything so passive aggressive from the dumpster fire that is FDS, but here we go.
Peop... | Most people don't have the time, resources or knowledge to create these routines and follow them without dedicating the majority of their free time to them. That is exactly why these are unrealistic standards.
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Why don't they have the time? I'd say 6-9 hours per week at the most is all that's needed, and people ca... | Clarifying question: do you look like Thor or Captain America?
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I just started working out. Hit this comment with a remind me if you want to see what I look like 6-8 months from now.
Also, this is a hard ad hominem.
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It’s not an ad hominem. You are assuming you’ll look a certain way in 6 months.
I know pl... | t0huhk | CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique | RayAP19 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique
https://old.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/szy9qd/_/
Far be it from me to agree with anything so passive aggressive from the dumpster fire that is FDS, but here we go.
Peop... | Clarifying question: do you look like Thor or Captain America?
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I just started working out. Hit this comment with a remind me if you want to see what I look like 6-8 months from now.
Also, this is a hard ad hominem.
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Its not an ad hominin because part of the evidence to support your view is that belief that... | Most people don't have the time, resources or knowledge to create these routines and follow them without dedicating the majority of their free time to them. That is exactly why these are unrealistic standards.
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Why don't they have the time? I'd say 6-9 hours per week at the most is all that's needed, and people ca... | t0huhk | CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique | RayAP19 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique
https://old.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/szy9qd/_/
Far be it from me to agree with anything so passive aggressive from the dumpster fire that is FDS, but here we go.
Peop... | Most people don't have the time, resources or knowledge to create these routines and follow them without dedicating the majority of their free time to them. That is exactly why these are unrealistic standards.
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Why don't they have the time? I'd say 6-9 hours per week at the most is all that's needed, and people ca... | Muscle wise, sure. However you're missing one key attribute, Height
Thor (Chris Hemsworth) is 6'3" Captain America (Chris Evans) is 6'0" Magic Mike (Channing Tatum) is 6'1" The Rock is 6'5"
Even short actors like Tom Cruise are shot via special camera angles to make them appear taller than their romantic interest, an... | t0huhk | CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique | RayAP19 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique
https://old.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/szy9qd/_/
Far be it from me to agree with anything so passive aggressive from the dumpster fire that is FDS, but here we go.
Peop... | Most people don't have the time, resources or knowledge to create these routines and follow them without dedicating the majority of their free time to them. That is exactly why these are unrealistic standards.
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Why don't they have the time? I'd say 6-9 hours per week at the most is all that's needed, and people ca... | >People have this notion that the Thor/Captain America/Magic Mike body is unattainable for the average person
Is is essentially unobtainable for those actors too. They basically dehydrate themselves before the scene inorder to look like that. They have that perfect male figure for less than a day.
For the average... | t0huhk | CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique | RayAP19 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique
https://old.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/szy9qd/_/
Far be it from me to agree with anything so passive aggressive from the dumpster fire that is FDS, but here we go.
Peop... | Most people don't have the time, resources or knowledge to create these routines and follow them without dedicating the majority of their free time to them. That is exactly why these are unrealistic standards.
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Why don't they have the time? I'd say 6-9 hours per week at the most is all that's needed, and people ca... | Clarifying question: do you look like Thor or Captain America?
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I just started working out. Hit this comment with a remind me if you want to see what I look like 6-8 months from now.
Also, this is a hard ad hominem.
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It’s not an ad hominem. You are assuming you’ll look a certain way in 6 months.
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CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique
https://old.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/szy9qd/_/
Far be it from me to agree with anything so passive aggressive from the dumpster fire that is FDS, but here we go.
Peop... | Most people don't have the time, resources or knowledge to create these routines and follow them without dedicating the majority of their free time to them. That is exactly why these are unrealistic standards.
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Why don't they have the time? I'd say 6-9 hours per week at the most is all that's needed, and people ca... | > Resources isn’t a particularly tough one.
You left out things here like TIME! and money for food/supplements/whatever else.
Resources to find all the knowledge you talk about. Then resources to figure out macros and then count calories and macros etc. it’s much more than 30 dollars a month and transportation.
>... | t0huhk | CMV: It IS possible for the average man, with enough dedication, knowledge, resources, and patience, to achieve a Hollywood physique | RayAP19 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Young couples getting married or moving together regardless of their sexuality are comitting a big mistake
Although we are usually reading statistics about younger generations settling later in life, the truth is regardless of this fact, many young couples wether gay, lesbian or bi are getting married at ages as ... | To modify your view here:
>Although we are usually reading statistics about younger generations settling later in life, the truth is regardless of this fact, many young couples wether gay, lesbian or bi are getting married at ages as young as 24 and I can't help to believe that they will make a big mistake.
First, th... | [removed]
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Sure but love is a fantasy rose coloured feeling, specially when we are young. We believe in sappy movie like romances but when goals and job differences become more important, many of these young couples will see that they made the greatest mistake of their lives. I mean, this is not a risk like moving... | l8dp78 | CMV: Young couples getting married or moving together regardless of their sexuality are comitting a big mistake | Although we are usually reading statistics about younger generations settling later in life, the truth is regardless of this fact, many young couples wether gay, lesbian or bi are getting married at ages as young as 24 and I can't help to believe that they will make a big mistake. And it's even worse for those married ... | arnodorian96 | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Ranked Choice Voting Systems Wouldn’t Make a Meaningful Difference in the US
I actively want my view to be changed on this, so please do your best.
For the uninitiated, ranked-choice voting systems allow voters to rank the candidates from most to least preferred rather than just selecting one candidate. If a vot... | > in the 2000 election people could have ranged Nader as their first choice and Gore as their second
… winning Gore the election.
Also, this encourages 3rd party candidates to participate in future elections which can break the hold of the major parties.
Australia has had several third parties make significant impa... | There is more to the left than the far left.
All of us progressives could vote for the progressive, without having to psychoanalyze the national public for whether a progressive could win both the primary and the general.
We just vote our beliefs, and if they win they win, if they don't they don't.
The main problem ... | 1ep7qww | CMV: Ranked Choice Voting Systems Wouldn’t Make a Meaningful Difference in the US | I actively want my view to be changed on this, so please do your best.
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CMV: The "sarcmark" ("/s") encourages lazy, low-effort comments. If you can't get your tone across stylistically, you probably deserve the downvotes.
The sarcmark ("/s") used denote sarcasm and/or irony provides no real value except to shield lazy joke comments that don't contribute to on-line discussion. Good satire ... | There's other consequences to this than just you getting downvotes.
Using the tag minimizes that the thread will be taken over by a billion people misunderstanding you.
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You're proving my exact point. If a **billion** people miss your joke, it was a bad joke (i.e. lazy and low-effort). The sarcmark protects peo... | As you've alluded to, I think that it's very easy to misunderstand the tonality and/or emotion behind words when they're written and read as opposed to spoken and heard. Everyone knows what sarcastic tone sounds like which is the cue that you're being sarcastic.
The sarcmark clearly issues that cue. Italicizing a word... | 9hto81 | CMV: The "sarcmark" ("/s") encourages lazy, low-effort comments. If you can't get your tone across stylistically, you probably deserve the downvotes. | The sarcmark ("/s") used denote sarcasm and/or irony provides no real value except to shield lazy joke comments that don't contribute to on-line discussion. Good satire takes some craft and, if people can't recognize your intent from the phrasing or style of your text, than you ought to take your downvotes on the chin ... | Mookyhands | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There should be maximum profit margins on goods OR we need to have zero regulations against getting out-of-state or out-of-country alternatives
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I'm not sure I know how to answer. I'm tentatively of the idea of limited profit for many (all?) things, but I'm mostly proposing it in terms of healthcare. Are you referring to intellectual proprty related to healthcare?... | It's a really important industry, one we'd want to continue innovation.
The industry as a sector does have high margins, but not as high as - for example - software application sector broadly. Should the incentives provided to investors for the healthcare industry be less that other industries that bring or rely on i... | l8pam7 | CMV: There should be maximum profit margins on goods OR we need to have zero regulations against getting out-of-state or out-of-country alternatives | In particular, I'm referring to medicines and medical treatment. Instead of fully government-run healthcare, instead if the maximum profit were limited to prevent profit margins in the thousands for life-saving medication and so on, it would seem that the the medical industry could still operate as-is, but without bein... | suddenly_ponies | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: You can’t argue both that Sex/gender doesn’t matter while also using differences as a foundation.
I hate this dumb idea that men and women are the same or “equal” because the fact is we aren’t. We are mostly similar but there are distinct ways in which we differ which has influenced how society has developed. Eve... | Saying men and women are equal doesn't mean we're exactly the same, no person is exactly the same as any other person, white people aren't exactly the same as black people (you can literally see the difference), and the same goes for men and women. Equal in this context means that all those people regardless of sex/gen... | Who’s saying that either of those doesn’t matter? I think the argument is that anyone regardless of gender should be treated fairly, not that men and women are the same in every aspect
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CMV: Women cannot empathize with men and them telling you to open up is just a trap.
All my life I felt as if women show lots of empathy to everything, except men.
Like when I was a kid I had a bad pneumonia. I was constantly coughing, everything hurt and I could barely breath without coughing again.
But my mom was... | Your experience isn't normal.
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But how would you know that? It feels completely normal from my perspective so I could also claim that your perspective isn't normal.
Where are all those women that can empathize with men and how can I attract those?
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When I was in the military women weren't yet allowed to join it in my country.
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Ah, no worries. I was going to suggest that in the military you are probably more likely to be treated equally.
Instead, I'll just ha... | d5zx8a | CMV: Women cannot empathize with men and them telling you to open up is just a trap. | All my life I felt as if women show lots of empathy to everything, except men.
Like when I was a kid I had a bad pneumonia. I was constantly coughing, everything hurt and I could barely breath without coughing again.
But my mom was only like "you are healthy enough to play video games so you are also healthy enough ... | NowadaysNice | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Women cannot empathize with men and them telling you to open up is just a trap.
All my life I felt as if women show lots of empathy to everything, except men.
Like when I was a kid I had a bad pneumonia. I was constantly coughing, everything hurt and I could barely breath without coughing again.
But my mom was... | Firstly I'm sorry that you've had such bad experiences. However i think that you're doing yourself a disservice to say that all women lack empathy for men when all your experiences can say is that these women in particular lack empathy for you. That's not intended to be harsh but you may have jumped the gun on the conc... | Your experience isn't normal.
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But how would you know that? It feels completely normal from my perspective so I could also claim that your perspective isn't normal.
Where are all those women that can empathize with men and how can I attract those?
---
Not to play armchair psychologist with you but from what yo... | d5zx8a | CMV: Women cannot empathize with men and them telling you to open up is just a trap. | All my life I felt as if women show lots of empathy to everything, except men.
Like when I was a kid I had a bad pneumonia. I was constantly coughing, everything hurt and I could barely breath without coughing again.
But my mom was only like "you are healthy enough to play video games so you are also healthy enough ... | NowadaysNice | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If all women in entertainment stopped taking career advancement/money for sex, men wouldn't be able to coerce them.
This is not one or the other. The men are abhorrent and they know that. They are trying to fuck people over, so telling them anything does nothing. You can only catch an asshole like that after they... | It sounds like your saying every woman who ever had sex with a person with power over their career did so *because* they were greedy, and wanted the easy way?
What about a situation where the power position says 'sleep with me or you will never work in this field again' ?
that woman isn't greedy, she's a victim of ex... | what about women in entertainment that can't tweet something or get an article published about them that millions of people will read?
calling out men only works if you're famous enough for people to hear you. and if you're still paying your dues at the bottom of the industry, you don't have the luxury of picking from... | abvdl0 | CMV: If all women in entertainment stopped taking career advancement/money for sex, men wouldn't be able to coerce them. | This is not one or the other. The men are abhorrent and they know that. They are trying to fuck people over, so telling them anything does nothing. You can only catch an asshole like that after they've done something horrible. So to try and prevent it from happening, no one taking the bait is the best way. You cant tel... | jkseller | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Agnosticism is a nonsensical or immature position to hold.
The question whether gods or a specific god exist(s) is a very hard one to meaningfully debate since in the end no one knows the answer. One either believes in religious or spiritual concepts or one doesn’t. Therefor describing oneself as agnostic about t... | Two statements:
"I don't know what I believe."
"I believe that I don't know."
It appears, on the face, that these are not the same thing. Do you disagree with this?
---
Of course they are different.
The first one I mentioned.
Everyone should subscribe to the second opinion because objectively speaking no one kno... | I think what you are saying applies to some people. Some people say they are agnostic when they are in fact non-believers technically.
However, I think you are underestimating the fact that some other people really don't put much thought into things like the supernatural. A certain amount of thought is required to la... | 8hz0tb | CMV: Agnosticism is a nonsensical or immature position to hold. | The question whether gods or a specific god exist(s) is a very hard one to meaningfully debate since in the end no one knows the answer. One either believes in religious or spiritual concepts or one doesn’t. Therefor describing oneself as agnostic about the supernatural and arguing it means that one does not know makes... | PeteWenzel | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: You are not patriotic nor considerate if you shoot fireworks next to the house of a veteran with PTSD
July 4th is celebrating the independence of America. It is also a day of patriotism, and a day to celebrate how far we’ve come as a country, and those who died protecting it.
Nobody should be put on a higher ped... | do most veterans with PTSD put up signs in their yards advertising that fact? Do they like telling perfect strangers about their mental health struggles?
I understand your point and agree that it's polite to not knowingly do this, but I also expect that most people have no idea if their neighbor is a veteran, much l... | [removed]
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Way to miss the point of the post completely there bud. Seems like you could use a history lesson or two as well.
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By all means, lets hear it | hl4mk6 | CMV: You are not patriotic nor considerate if you shoot fireworks next to the house of a veteran with PTSD | July 4th is celebrating the independence of America. It is also a day of patriotism, and a day to celebrate how far we’ve come as a country, and those who died protecting it.
Nobody should be put on a higher pedestal than our veterans who sacrificed their lives and livelihoods to protect us.
For many, Post Traumatic... | JaydenMyles | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Politics has always been a part of comic books and people wanting politics out of comic books simply don't like the message.
(I'm mostly talking about superhero comics because that is what I am most familiar with, but it also applies to non-superhero books as well.)
First off. I'll say that it's okay to not like... | Ok, so let me make, I think, the best argument against this, by referencing the Twlight Zone. Both the classic one, from the 60's, and the reboot from 2019. This, imo, perfectly encapsulates your opinion, and shows why you're wrong. The original series has something like a 90% approval rating from audiences, while the ... | The issue isn't that there there, it's that they're impossible to ignore. It used to be something with a story with political undertones. Now its "gay trans woman DESTROYS patriarchy" as the theme. Theres no way to *ignore* it. It's the start and the finish, not a feature
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There are defiantly some heavy handed sto... | gfigrf | CMV: Politics has always been a part of comic books and people wanting politics out of comic books simply don't like the message. | (I'm mostly talking about superhero comics because that is what I am most familiar with, but it also applies to non-superhero books as well.)
First off. I'll say that it's okay to not like a comic, or to not like it's story or characters or message/moral. That's an opinion and it's okay to have one. Simply saying poli... | zithermusic | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: a carbon tax is the best solution for global warming
I would first like clarify that when I mean effective, I’m talking about it’s impact on the emissions of the country that implements it. Saying that nothing matters because China burns coal is an excuse I’ve read a thousand times and am thoroughly sick of.
A c... | A carbon tax doesn't solve the issue of climate change seeing as how it only internalizes the cost of further pollution. Meanwhile, climate change is already here due to the existing CO2 in the atmosphere. A solution needs to involve some sort of carbon capturing whether by innovating new cheaper methods or by mass fun... | *Saying that nothing matters because China burns coal is an excuse I’ve read a thousand times and am thoroughly sick of.*
Just because you are sick of hearing the truth doesn't make it any less true.
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It’s annoying because I believe that America must reduce its carbon emissions regardless of what China does.
The... | d5za94 | CMV: a carbon tax is the best solution for global warming | I would first like clarify that when I mean effective, I’m talking about it’s impact on the emissions of the country that implements it. Saying that nothing matters because China burns coal is an excuse I’ve read a thousand times and am thoroughly sick of.
A carbon tax works like this:
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CMV: a carbon tax is the best solution for global warming
I would first like clarify that when I mean effective, I’m talking about it’s impact on the emissions of the country that implements it. Saying that nothing matters because China burns coal is an excuse I’ve read a thousand times and am thoroughly sick of.
A c... | A carbon tax doesn't solve the issue of climate change seeing as how it only internalizes the cost of further pollution. Meanwhile, climate change is already here due to the existing CO2 in the atmosphere. A solution needs to involve some sort of carbon capturing whether by innovating new cheaper methods or by mass fun... | Does this apply to the public as well as businesses? Will a minimum wage worker be taxed for using a cheap old polluting car in order to get to work because the public transport is so poor in the area?
Who will measure the emissions of each company?
Will emissions from the entire lifecycle of the product or service b... | d5za94 | CMV: a carbon tax is the best solution for global warming | I would first like clarify that when I mean effective, I’m talking about it’s impact on the emissions of the country that implements it. Saying that nothing matters because China burns coal is an excuse I’ve read a thousand times and am thoroughly sick of.
A carbon tax works like this:
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CMV: It is 'untrue' to say "I am either a person or an elephant".
This is going to be a little strange but I will start with some background.
I saw a logic puzzle that asked:
> Suppose you are visiting an island with knights, who always tell the truth, and knaves, who always lie. Which statement is impossible ... | Being true but lacking utility is a thing and it's generally safe to assume people won't make those kind of statements, but it's still a true statement for the purpose of logic puzzles.
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Totally, and for the puzzle it makes sense and I am not refuting the claim. But more so what I am trying to get at is that 'tru... | > In my perspective the problem with truth here is that it has to be substantive or that it has to have utility otherwise it is not a truth but rather something else.
I don't really understand here. Are you saying that true things without utility aren't true? How are you defining truth?
> Is the statement that a ligh... | 8hyfxu | CMV: It is 'untrue' to say "I am either a person or an elephant". | This is going to be a little strange but I will start with some background.
I saw a logic puzzle that asked:
> Suppose you are visiting an island with knights, who always tell the truth, and knaves, who always lie. Which statement is impossible for an islander to make?
> I am either a knight or a knave, I ... | Mr-Ice-Guy | 3 | 3 | [
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cmv: most muslim subreddits routinely break reddit's rules on hate speech and should be banned
this take got me permabanned from r/nostupidquestions for bigotry folks, gonna try it out here
The argument is not that all muslims are homophobic, nor that muslims shouldn't be allowed on reddit. The point I'm making is... | Can you provide examples of the conduct you are describing?
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H[ere's](https://www.reddit.com/r/MuslimCorner/comments/1ir3din/gay_imam_shot_dead_at_wedding/) a post about the death of a gay priest. Bangers include "guess the shekels weren't worth it" and "GOOD RIDDANCE". Or [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Musli... | I never been to a Muslim sub. However since Muslims are backed by liberals and reddit is run by liberals. No surprise Muslim subs get hall pass for hate speech and hating Lgbt.
---
To think Christians are more persecuted than Muslims in today’s society is pretty wild
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To think that Islam has some very problema... | 1povad5 | cmv: most muslim subreddits routinely break reddit's rules on hate speech and should be banned | this take got me permabanned from r/nostupidquestions for bigotry folks, gonna try it out here
The argument is not that all muslims are homophobic, nor that muslims shouldn't be allowed on reddit. The point I'm making is that the primary islamic subreddits (r/muslims, r/islam, etc) all regularly break reddit's rule... | dogwatermoneybags | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Turn signals are NOT optional, no excuses!
There is never a time when you shouldn't use a turn signal. It literally takes you less than a second of your time.
When merging on the highway, you need to use it to tell others you are coming over. Even if you don't see any cars. Because it's possible you don't see ... | I have another excuse to change your view: counter-surveillance. If your car is being tailed, and you want to shake the tail, it could help confuse them if you maneuver without signaling, or signal and then do something different. Certainly, if you're trying to shake a tail, then clearly signaling your intention isn't ... | Why would you want your view changed?
It is obvious that if you are in a circumstance where someone might be around while driving, then you should be using it. That's the law.
There are some circumstances where using the turn signal would not help, such as instant reactions to avoid accidents. Or perhaps while pos... | d5ykz7 | CMV: Turn signals are NOT optional, no excuses! | There is never a time when you shouldn't use a turn signal. It literally takes you less than a second of your time.
When merging on the highway, you need to use it to tell others you are coming over. Even if you don't see any cars. Because it's possible you don't see them, and if they see your signal, it gives them ... | AVeryOldLady_07 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Alcohol does far more harm than good in society
Hey CMV,
First post here. I've thought this for a long time due to the ridiculous amount of alcohol related deaths from drunk driving, alcohol related illnesses, and other alcohol related incidents like fights or other crimes. I don't see how anyone can make the ar... | Who ever said it does good?
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There's a reason prohibition didn't work and continues to not be a viable option, right? Society implicitly approves of it by keeping consumption numbers high. Tobacco use has plummeted in the last couple of decades because society has recognized it as net-negative
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\> Society im... | [removed]
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Why is it still around?
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People like getting fucked up. We know its not good for us | ac9dtk | CMV: Alcohol does far more harm than good in society | Hey CMV,
First post here. I've thought this for a long time due to the ridiculous amount of alcohol related deaths from drunk driving, alcohol related illnesses, and other alcohol related incidents like fights or other crimes. I don't see how anyone can make the argument that the social benefits of alcohol outweigh th... | dcirrilla | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Alcohol does far more harm than good in society
Hey CMV,
First post here. I've thought this for a long time due to the ridiculous amount of alcohol related deaths from drunk driving, alcohol related illnesses, and other alcohol related incidents like fights or other crimes. I don't see how anyone can make the ar... | Who ever said it does good?
---
There's a reason prohibition didn't work and continues to not be a viable option, right? Society implicitly approves of it by keeping consumption numbers high. Tobacco use has plummeted in the last couple of decades because society has recognized it as net-negative
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\> Society im... | What is your ultimate goal? Something like "Maximizing human happiness" or "increasing technological progress" so I can understand what i'm trying to measure as "good in society".
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That's a really good question. Maximizing human happiness isn't quite right but I can't think of a better descriptor right now. Based ... | ac9dtk | CMV: Alcohol does far more harm than good in society | Hey CMV,
First post here. I've thought this for a long time due to the ridiculous amount of alcohol related deaths from drunk driving, alcohol related illnesses, and other alcohol related incidents like fights or other crimes. I don't see how anyone can make the argument that the social benefits of alcohol outweigh th... | dcirrilla | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Alcohol does far more harm than good in society
Hey CMV,
First post here. I've thought this for a long time due to the ridiculous amount of alcohol related deaths from drunk driving, alcohol related illnesses, and other alcohol related incidents like fights or other crimes. I don't see how anyone can make the ar... | It seems to me that alcohol does a few very bad things and a lot of barely good things.
Like alcohol seems to increase out ability to bond with each other. It helps us make friends. which is good. But it also kills people which is bad.
Alcohol has helped me make dozens of friends and it killed me zero times and ki... | Who ever said it does good?
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There's a reason prohibition didn't work and continues to not be a viable option, right? Society implicitly approves of it by keeping consumption numbers high. Tobacco use has plummeted in the last couple of decades because society has recognized it as net-negative
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\> Society im... | ac9dtk | CMV: Alcohol does far more harm than good in society | Hey CMV,
First post here. I've thought this for a long time due to the ridiculous amount of alcohol related deaths from drunk driving, alcohol related illnesses, and other alcohol related incidents like fights or other crimes. I don't see how anyone can make the argument that the social benefits of alcohol outweigh th... | dcirrilla | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: US elections should be run using Range Voting
As I was told about an alternative to STV in a previous CMV I had:
>There are many solutions to the circular problem of Condorcet voting. But, these tend to be other imperfect methods. Score voting offers a generally better one because it carries additional inf... | Questions: how many choices would there be for each position? And how would you stop from someone saying they were unsure of the way this method was set up so they wouldn’t call the vote unfair to people of less intelligence that wouldn’t have the capacity to vote properly?
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Theoretically you could have any number... | You can change literally any aspect of our contitution with a constitutional amendment. With this in mind, can you in good faith argue that modern polititians should pass an amendment to our constitution, changing how they themselves are elected?
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There's a difference between "should they" and "would they".
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CMV: Young people should graduate from the public school system by age 16 at the latest.
When was the last time we really evaluated whether or not it still takes 18 years to educate a person? From what I understand, the elementary school system operates about the same as it did when I was in it 30 years ago (addition ... | You understand that these young children in older classes are a minority, right? Like, sure, you met three 16 year olds in your JC. There are a lot more than three 16 year olds that weren't and were still in high school because they could not handle the material at that time.
Not to mention, like, we give people elec... | >The current education people receive by the end of their sophomore year in high school is more than sufficient as a baseline to function in society.
Bullshit. Functioning in society isn't just about academic knowledge. It's about emotional, social, and cognitive development. You think a 16-year-old, fresh out of soph... | 1c0sm8t | CMV: Young people should graduate from the public school system by age 16 at the latest. | When was the last time we really evaluated whether or not it still takes 18 years to educate a person? From what I understand, the elementary school system operates about the same as it did when I was in it 30 years ago (addition first grade, subtraction second, multiplication third, long division fourth). I feel like ... | Aggressive-Carob6256 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:Thanos did nothing wrong
Okay avoid spoilers if you haven't seen it already but let me start by explaining who Thanos is. Thanos is a villain in the MCU who's sole purpose is to genocide the universe (now comes his reasoning) because he believes that with over population and massive birth increases and finite reso... | He single-handedly decided the fate of half the Universe. That is not his choice to make, regardless of whether it is or isn't the correct thing to do. That makes his actions wrong. And this isn't to mention the torture and everything else he did in order to obtain the Infinity Stones.
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but he also had to sacrifi... | Just because you believe you're doing the right thing doesn't mean you are. Hitler thought he did nothing wrong but uh he definitely did.
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but with Hitler though if im not wrong (correct me if i am) he just wanted to kill people to kill people where thanos saw we were running low on resources and decided to put t... | 8hxpvz | CMV:Thanos did nothing wrong | Okay avoid spoilers if you haven't seen it already but let me start by explaining who Thanos is. Thanos is a villain in the MCU who's sole purpose is to genocide the universe (now comes his reasoning) because he believes that with over population and massive birth increases and finite resources we are coming closer and... | SilentSenu | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:Thanos did nothing wrong
Okay avoid spoilers if you haven't seen it already but let me start by explaining who Thanos is. Thanos is a villain in the MCU who's sole purpose is to genocide the universe (now comes his reasoning) because he believes that with over population and massive birth increases and finite reso... | He single-handedly decided the fate of half the Universe. That is not his choice to make, regardless of whether it is or isn't the correct thing to do. That makes his actions wrong. And this isn't to mention the torture and everything else he did in order to obtain the Infinity Stones.
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but he also had to sacrifi... | Just because you believe you're doing the right thing doesn't mean you are. Hitler thought he did nothing wrong but uh he definitely did.
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but with Hitler though if im not wrong (correct me if i am) he just wanted to kill people to kill people where thanos saw we were running low on resources and decided to put t... | 8hxpvz | CMV:Thanos did nothing wrong | Okay avoid spoilers if you haven't seen it already but let me start by explaining who Thanos is. Thanos is a villain in the MCU who's sole purpose is to genocide the universe (now comes his reasoning) because he believes that with over population and massive birth increases and finite resources we are coming closer and... | SilentSenu | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Governments should start reporting their underemployment rates, not just their unemployment rates.
There are many people working full-time jobs in their area who can't afford to live in that area. For that reason, I don't think unemployment alone tells enough about the job economy of an area.
I grew up in an exp... | [They already do that.](https://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt.htm)
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Seems to only include unemployed people and part-time workers unless I’m reading it wrong
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As others are pointing out, the stats are being published.
So I think I can change your view:
You don't want the government to publish this data. They alread... | Underemployment is a spectrum, there is no clear-cut definition. On the one hand nearly everyone thinks they should be paid more and is frustrated that they don't have enough money "to live a good life". On the other hand you have working people who have a bunch of roommates, who can't afford to take care of their hygi... | 1jwi59q | CMV: Governments should start reporting their underemployment rates, not just their unemployment rates. | There are many people working full-time jobs in their area who can't afford to live in that area. For that reason, I don't think unemployment alone tells enough about the job economy of an area.
I grew up in an expensive suburb in New York. Almost all of the jobs there and in the surrounding towns were minimum wage, s... | MenorahsaurusRex | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: “Fat acceptance” is toxic and counterproductive
To begin, I am not advocating for the harassment or bullying of overweight people. I just think that the fat acceptance movement is targeting the obesity problem in the US in the completely wrong way. There are a lot of fat people in the US. Like, a LOT. Clearly, th... | >It seems to me that the fat acceptance movement says we should glorify making unhealthy choices and normalize it. That’s not what we should be teaching our kids. We should be teaching them about hypertension, heart disease, and diabetes. We should teach them to control their portions and eat more fruits and vegetables... | Increasing stress and decreasing social engagement for obese Americans is unlikely to result in weight loss. The best way to encourage people to lose weight is to remain socially engaged and supportive.
“Fat acceptance” isn’t about creating some false perception of reality where it’s healthy to be overweight, it’s abo... | aq8ugp | CMV: “Fat acceptance” is toxic and counterproductive | To begin, I am not advocating for the harassment or bullying of overweight people. I just think that the fat acceptance movement is targeting the obesity problem in the US in the completely wrong way. There are a lot of fat people in the US. Like, a LOT. Clearly, there are some societal and cultural problems that have ... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Affirmative Action has a bad impact on society
Greetings!
My view is that affirmative action, also called positive discrimination, has a negative impact on society.
The best argument I've heard for affirmative action is actually an analogy. Imagine this country as a track with different lanes. Some lanes are ha... | A few ways to change your view... at least partially.
1. I don’t think any serious commentators imagine AA as a permanent solution. That said, no one I’ve heard has has set out definitive criteria for what are the outcomes needed before it is repealed. Plus, any such outcomes would be very difficult to accurately meas... | “Removing the rocks from the track” means eradicating subconscious racial bias from individuals within institutions, somehow. I take it you believe this is possible - do you have any suggestions for how to achieve that?
>the act of removing these rocks gives people the impression of unfairness
Why can these people no... | d5u3ih | CMV: Affirmative Action has a bad impact on society | Greetings!
My view is that affirmative action, also called positive discrimination, has a negative impact on society.
The best argument I've heard for affirmative action is actually an analogy. Imagine this country as a track with different lanes. Some lanes are harder than others. The harder lanes have holes and roc... | zyborhg | 5 | 4 | [
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CMV: “Death to America” and similar chants are being overreacted to, and the media is deliberately sensationalizing them
Recently, in Dearborn MI, a community that is predominantly Arab-American or recent Arab immigrants, there were chants of “Death to America” at a pro-Palestine rally. This has become major news and ... | Lets keep the intensity and change the word
Back until the 2010s it was common to hear "rape" in contexts like videogames or entertaintment, with 14 year olds saying they "raped you in Halo" for winning or that "X character rapes this character" to mean they were a stronger or better fictional character.
If a chant s... | I mean … yea? The media is not exactly your friend
There are good networks that can be good, but behind every network are people with an agenda
Not to mention that there are so many articles that profit from sensationalized news, taking that that sounds good and ignoring the rest
The only way to change this is to ta... | 1c0lz6b | CMV: “Death to America” and similar chants are being overreacted to, and the media is deliberately sensationalizing them | Recently, in Dearborn MI, a community that is predominantly Arab-American or recent Arab immigrants, there were chants of “Death to America” at a pro-Palestine rally. This has become major news and like other chants (death to Israel, etc) has been framed as a call for violence and destruction upon entire nations.
Whil... | StanIsHorizontal | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Trump's most plausible path to ending birthright citizenship would require a broad grant of something like diplomatic immunity.
Trump is arguing that undocumented immigrants aren't subject to our laws: if he means this as a blanket pardon, then that puts them into a similar relationship to US law as diplomats and... | Trump won't be able to end 'Birth Right Citizenship' or 'Anchor Babies' if you prefer that term.
I really don't see **any** path for this.
I think it's just an empty 'campaign promise'...
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>I really don't see any path for this.
Presidential pardon has very few limits on its power, though: maybe that could provi... | The most plausible path would be to get SCOTUS to interpret that the phrase “subject to jurisdiction thereof” does not cover illegals. To get a case in front of SCOTUS, all he has to do is sign an XO that says this is the interpretation and let someone sue.
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That would have the same effect, though: it would make ... | 9t2r0j | CMV: Trump's most plausible path to ending birthright citizenship would require a broad grant of something like diplomatic immunity. | Trump is arguing that undocumented immigrants aren't subject to our laws: if he means this as a blanket pardon, then that puts them into a similar relationship to US law as diplomats and members of sovereign tribes who have negotiated an exceptional status. This is the only path forward that is consistent with legal pr... | polyparadigm | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The definition of Dreadnought battleships is inaccurate and should be changed.
HMS dreadnought is considered one of, if not the most influential battleship in the world, after the dreadnought all previous battleships where considered obsolete and classified as pre and post dreadnought.
there are a number of fact... | Gonna page /u/DBHT14 for more details on this, as he has a TON of naval historical knowledge
But the 'all big gun' feature of the Dreadnought wasn't the only factor.
For one, those ships you listed DID have big guns - but so did the USS Maine (not the one that sank in Cuba, but the battleship launched in 1901) which ... | Ignoring whether or not the classification is a good one or not; are you really saying we should retroactively reclassify what a ship is later on in history? The dreadnought, as a class, doesn't really exist anymore, so the classification doesn't matter except as a part of the historical record.
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the dreadnought w... | 6l2cag | CMV: The definition of Dreadnought battleships is inaccurate and should be changed. | HMS dreadnought is considered one of, if not the most influential battleship in the world, after the dreadnought all previous battleships where considered obsolete and classified as pre and post dreadnought.
there are a number of factors that make the dreadnought special, but the most important of them is an "all big ... | Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The definition of Dreadnought battleships is inaccurate and should be changed.
HMS dreadnought is considered one of, if not the most influential battleship in the world, after the dreadnought all previous battleships where considered obsolete and classified as pre and post dreadnought.
there are a number of fact... | Gonna page /u/DBHT14 for more details on this, as he has a TON of naval historical knowledge
But the 'all big gun' feature of the Dreadnought wasn't the only factor.
For one, those ships you listed DID have big guns - but so did the USS Maine (not the one that sank in Cuba, but the battleship launched in 1901) which ... | >i believe that the "all big gun" definition of dreadnoughts have been shown in many previous ships, and that the definition should be changed to remove it. the definition should instead be based on the Russia Japanese war.
>here are a few all big gun pre dreadnought ships.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re_Umberto-c... | 6l2cag | CMV: The definition of Dreadnought battleships is inaccurate and should be changed. | HMS dreadnought is considered one of, if not the most influential battleship in the world, after the dreadnought all previous battleships where considered obsolete and classified as pre and post dreadnought.
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CMV: Anger is a stronger fuel than love to changing your life.
We've all grown up hearing that "love is the answer". In movies, music, and so on.
But in real life, anger is a stronger fuel. It is what it takes for an overweight person to finally decide to lose weight. It is anger at their bullies who told them they w... | I could simply say "love is what it takes for an overweight person to finally decide to lose weght. It is love of themselves that makes them realize they can do better and amount to something"....and so on.
I think at the end of the day you're oversimplifying things. People can be entirely paralyzed by anger. The... | You described how anger could hypothetically motivate a person, but you didn't describe how it motivates a person more than love? Where is love falling short here?
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It motivates a person more than love because it is a stronger emotion and energy source. That's where love falls short.
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Love is such a strong m... | 1i36r88 | CMV: Anger is a stronger fuel than love to changing your life. | We've all grown up hearing that "love is the answer". In movies, music, and so on.
But in real life, anger is a stronger fuel. It is what it takes for an overweight person to finally decide to lose weight. It is anger at their bullies who told them they would never amount to anything in life that makes them incredible... | sohoships | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Gay Pride rally’s are disgusting and a harmful influence on children
Let me preface by stating I have no issue with gay people. I respect that homosexuality is a valid sexuality and people are free to marry/sleep with whom they want.
However, I think that Gay Pride rally’s are hideous. People parading in very l... | > Imagine if there was a parade for straight pride in the same manner.
You mean like [carnival parades](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b&biw=1527&bih=965&tbm=isch&q=carnival+parade+sexy)?
> People wouldn’t be happy about it as heterosexuals aren’t a protected class.
Actually, the protected class is "s... | >Imagine if there was a parade for straight pride in the same manner
Not specifically straight people - but do you have the same disgust during Mardi Gras parades?
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If it exposing children to sexual nature and normalising it then yes.
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So overly sexual parades are your problem - not specifically the ga... | ac55ai | CMV: Gay Pride rally’s are disgusting and a harmful influence on children | Let me preface by stating I have no issue with gay people. I respect that homosexuality is a valid sexuality and people are free to marry/sleep with whom they want.
However, I think that Gay Pride rally’s are hideous. People parading in very little clothes/highly sexualised clothes is hideous.
Imagine if there was a... | MC_gnome | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Alex Jones, while he is an idiot, doesn’t deserve the ban he received on YT
To start, I want to say **Im no in way defending any particular thing he’s said, I’m defending his right to say what he wants.** A lot of what he’s said is either stupid of offensive, and he’s an absolute moron, but he, just like everyone... | YouTube’s code of conduct bans you after racking up three strikes in three months
One of Jones’ videos showed an adult pushing a child to the ground, headlined “How to Prevent Liberalism” — even if not a direct call to violence against liberals, it was a video of an adult being violent to a child. Strike One.
YouTub... | >In order to change my view, you will have to show me evidence that 1. Alex Jones is plotting violence, or calling people to it.
He threatened to shoot Robert Mueller. He also said "it's not a joke. It's not a game. It's the real world. Politically. You're going to get it, or I'm going to die trying, bitch. Get ready.... | 96qdl7 | CMV: Alex Jones, while he is an idiot, doesn’t deserve the ban he received on YT | To start, I want to say **Im no in way defending any particular thing he’s said, I’m defending his right to say what he wants.** A lot of what he’s said is either stupid of offensive, and he’s an absolute moron, but he, just like everyone else, has the right to speak his mind of a public platform. This post is specific... | Carbon_Hack | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The recent "controversy" surrounding Louis C.K.'s released set is extraordinarily misplaced.
After a now deleted thread from this morning, I became aware of Louis C.K.'s bootlegged set from Dec. that made headlines on CNN, and a variety of more clearly trash news outlets. The headlines centered around, "Louis pun... | I'm going to skip all the stuff about Louis CK and just dispute one main leg of your argument. **There are no rehearsal performances in comedy.** People pay you money and you deliver a live show. The live show is the main thing. Bill Burr on a recent Joe Rogan podcast says he treats his Netflix specials like advertisin... | >This was not polished material that he chose to release.
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If the comedy club was small or even moderately sized, that is how most comedians gage which jokes to cut or... | ac03me | CMV: The recent "controversy" surrounding Louis C.K.'s released set is extraordinarily misplaced. | After a now deleted thread from this morning, I became aware of Louis C.K.'s bootlegged set from Dec. that made headlines on CNN, and a variety of more clearly trash news outlets. The headlines centered around, "Louis punches down, criticizes trans rights and parkland survivors" and further nonsense, where the real sto... | Madauras | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: “but men commit most violent crimes” is not a valid counter argument to saying men are victims of those same crimes.
Everyone has heard someone complaining about how women have to live in fear of men and how men are evil and commit all these violent crimes which is true right? Men commit close to 80% of violent c... | I disagree. The only time I hear people even say this is when women are talking about women's issues and generally about being victimized by men. Then some men would come in and say "well men are more likely to be murdered" yes, yes they are, BY OTHER MEN. So I think it's perfectly valid to say.
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If I’m walking ho... | Eh, I believe a lot of the violent crime is actually drug related and so I think there's actually a huge overlap between victims and perpetrators
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CMV: People who flake out are selfish assholes, and we should stop normalizing the behavior
People who flake out on others are shitty and selfish. There are (imho rarely) legit excuses for why a last minute cancellation is needed but we all know that most of our shit gets cancelled for bad reasons. It's like an upgrad... | [removed]
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That's part of this. Not only is half our generation claiming to be subject to anxiety or similar, many many people do not have crippling anxiety and use it as an excuse to cover for their flakiness.
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I don’t see the reason why someone would claim to fake anxiety and also where do you have the 50% ... | >There are (imho rarely) legit excuses for why a last minute cancellation is needed but we all know that most of our shit gets cancelled for bad reasons.
I have a quibble with this. I have a large social group I hang with. There goes not a weekend when someone cancels. Life. Just. Happens. Why hold someone, on what ap... | rh28ut | CMV: People who flake out are selfish assholes, and we should stop normalizing the behavior | People who flake out on others are shitty and selfish. There are (imho rarely) legit excuses for why a last minute cancellation is needed but we all know that most of our shit gets cancelled for bad reasons. It's like an upgraded version of being habitually late, and it demonstrates the person doesn't care about your t... | [deleted] | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Outsourcing American prisoners to foreign countries like El Salvador might sound bold, but it’s bad for our economy. Even if our current prison system is deeply flawed, this would be worse.
I get the appeal on the surface. Our prison system is bloated, expensive, and in many ways unjust. So when someone suggests ... | > it’s bad for our economy
The economic impact of these actions are so far down the list of concerns I have over these actions that I cannot even see it. Sure, people may lose jobs, but the bigger danger is to the rule of law. These actions are flatly illegal. Taking these actions turns the US government into a crimin... | Just like Guantanamo during the Bush era, this is being done to circumvent the law. By doing this, there is no oversight of how the US is running its concentration camps.
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Therein lies my true worry, but it struck me that even if you don’t care about deportation of foreigners and dissidents, it’s still technicall... | 1k1j7m8 | CMV: Outsourcing American prisoners to foreign countries like El Salvador might sound bold, but it’s bad for our economy. Even if our current prison system is deeply flawed, this would be worse. | I get the appeal on the surface. Our prison system is bloated, expensive, and in many ways unjust. So when someone suggests a cheaper, tougher alternative—like sending prisoners to El Salvador’s new mega-prison (CECOT)—I understand why some people see it as a cost-saving win and a strong stance on crime.
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CMV: Punch a Nazi will never get the desired result of silencing them in a modern democratic society.
I have discovered that there are individuals on reddit that still believe that punching nazis is a viable tool to minimize far-right extremism, so I'd like to see the best arguments for this.
To make sure we're speak... | > Hitler and Goebbels achieved the same by capitalizing on the brawls created by the communists (though often provoked by the nazis). The communists themselves had in the 20's Berlin a very similar motto to current ANTIFA and far-left activism: "Beat the fascists wherever you encounter them!"
How was Hitler ultimately... | I'm amazed at how many people think Nazism can be non-violent, just like I'm amazed that anyone can think the KKK can be non-violent.
You cannot hold the view that everyone one else is inferior and should be expelled/exterminated violently, and simultaneously demand that I respond to you non-violently. These views are... | 9syzi9 | CMV: Punch a Nazi will never get the desired result of silencing them in a modern democratic society. | I have discovered that there are individuals on reddit that still believe that punching nazis is a viable tool to minimize far-right extremism, so I'd like to see the best arguments for this.
To make sure we're speaking on the same page I'll try to define what I mean with "Punching Nazis" in the context of this debate... | MarquisOfThorns | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: The death penalty is wrong, criminals deserve a chance at redemption.
Everyone deserves a chance to redeem themselves in pretty much every situation. I completely understand that people commit grizzly crimes that can have devastating results on other people’s lives. For example a murder situation where the victim... | Everything holds its pros & cons, but I am personally against any form of capital punishment. If seems a bit contradictory - sends the message that it isn’t illegal if the government does it. Also, there’s always the chance of killing an innocent. Just seems like a minute form of population control and getting rid of ... | > One of the biggest reasons that I stand by this view is the chance of sentencing someone innocent to death.
Your submission title is "the death penalty is *wrong*", but your main argument is not really about whether it's right or wrong, it's about the practical, pragmatic of the situation(ie. we could screw up, sent... | absead | CMV: The death penalty is wrong, criminals deserve a chance at redemption. | Everyone deserves a chance to redeem themselves in pretty much every situation. I completely understand that people commit grizzly crimes that can have devastating results on other people’s lives. For example a murder situation where the victim’s family is affected and may be distraught in grief. In this case the famil... | Tobia_sWight | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Mass deportations are a terrible idea and akin to trying to immediately switch from gas cars to electric cars
On average both legal and illegal immigrants tend to take jobs that no one else actually wants. Construction, water treatment, waste management, janitorial jobs, etc. They make up millions of our workers.... | >On average both legal and illegal immigrants tend to take jobs that no one else actually wants.
"Deportations are a bad idea cause we wont have anyone to be glorified slaves with shit pay and shit conditions so i can have cheaper stuff"
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Did you read beyond the first sentence? I addressed that in the 2nd half of... | Your conclusion is correct: mass deportations *are* a terrible idea.
Your analogy is also terrible for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that we are talking about human lives and not just swapping out farm equipment. Or batteries for a gas tank.
Even the talk about the impact has little to do with the l... | 1i357m1 | CMV: Mass deportations are a terrible idea and akin to trying to immediately switch from gas cars to electric cars | On average both legal and illegal immigrants tend to take jobs that no one else actually wants. Construction, water treatment, waste management, janitorial jobs, etc. They make up millions of our workers. It's not like suddenly americans will flock to fill those empty positions. There will be a massive shortage of work... | coreynj | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Police officers should wear cute hats, pink straps, and maybe little fuzzy fox-tails.
I was talking with a friend recently about the proper role that police play in our society, with both of us concerned about the conflicting needs of having an effective police force, while minimizing police violence and power ov... | Whether or not your opinion of the police is positive or negative, the Police are *meant* to be a source of safety and comfort for citizens. When something goes wrong, you often want a calm and knowledgeable paramedic, firefighter, or police officer to comfort and help you. When things have gone to hell and an individu... | Police clothing will appear friendly when the police are friendly. If a SWAT team in pastels tears down your front door, it won't make them appear non-threatening, it will just make pastels terrifying.
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> Police clothing will appear friendly when the police are friendly.
If this were true, then customer-focused s... | 8hrf68 | CMV: Police officers should wear cute hats, pink straps, and maybe little fuzzy fox-tails. | I was talking with a friend recently about the proper role that police play in our society, with both of us concerned about the conflicting needs of having an effective police force, while minimizing police violence and power over the everyday citizen.
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CMV: There is no logical reason for a woman to change her last name to her husband's (or partner's) when she gets married.
So, I'm a very strong advocate for women's rights and empowerment. I'm also married, and have been for two years (together for ten). I kept my last name. It's the name I had when I earned my BA an... | A shared family name is a good idea if a couple are planning on a family as it will provide a shared sense of identity and belonging.
But it is only living in a patriarchal society and tradition that puts the pressure on the woman to change.
I know women who have built a professional reputation and retained their nam... | I am a woman and I will be taking my husband's name. I want people to know that I am his wife(something I will be very proud of) and I want people to know we're a family. Also, I want to have the same name as my children. If everyone gives two family names to their children we will have people called Smith-Jones-Hales-... | 6kla76 | CMV: There is no logical reason for a woman to change her last name to her husband's (or partner's) when she gets married. | So, I'm a very strong advocate for women's rights and empowerment. I'm also married, and have been for two years (together for ten). I kept my last name. It's the name I had when I earned my BA and my MA (and soon my PhD), and I have accomplished great things with this name. People make an enormous deal out of my decis... | uncanny_kenna | 8 | 8 | [
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CMV:The USA (or who ever the most powerful nation is) has a moral and ethical responsibility to act as "world police"
Nearly every spectrum and side of the current political environment all around the world is against the idea of the US policing the world and "bulling" nations into the status quo yet I personally beli... | >The current world we live in is one of the most peaceful times in human history largely due to the US "boogyman" watching over to strike at anyone threatening the global stability.
People disagree with the US. They don't want the US holding a giant baton over their heads to smack them if they do something that the US... | >The USA (or who ever the most powerful nation is) has a moral and ethical responsibility to act as "world police"
I think the issue is that not everyone agrees on which side is the correct side. During the cold war the USSR and the USA were as close to equal as they've ever been in recent history and we backed oppos... | 6zwzh7 | CMV:The USA (or who ever the most powerful nation is) has a moral and ethical responsibility to act as "world police" | Nearly every spectrum and side of the current political environment all around the world is against the idea of the US policing the world and "bulling" nations into the status quo yet I personally believe that it is the morally and ethically right thing to do.
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CMV: 70 Is Too Old To Run For Political Office ( based on the data)
Looking for some other view points -
I just wrote [an article](https://theconsciousvibe.com/heres-why-there-should-be-a-maximum-age-for-politicians/) (as non-political as possible) looking at the data behind cognitive ability as we age. It seems that... | The problem is that even if people may agree with you such a rule is textbook age discrimination, which is illegal.
It would also open up a bunch of cans of worms: if cognitive ability is a baseline requirement for running for office aren't you discriminating against people with Down Syndrome?
Is someone with Down Sy... | I skimmed your article, and it looks like the evidentiary basis of your claim is statistics about what generally happens.
This is the wrong kind of evidence here. You need evidence about the specific candidate, not statistical evidence. Statistical evidence only tells you what usually happens.
Voters can take into a... | rh3yoy | CMV: 70 Is Too Old To Run For Political Office ( based on the data) | Looking for some other view points -
I just wrote [an article](https://theconsciousvibe.com/heres-why-there-should-be-a-maximum-age-for-politicians/) (as non-political as possible) looking at the data behind cognitive ability as we age. It seems that the data is fairly clear. I'm thinking that as a member of the gener... | Conscious-vibe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Restaurants and other establishments that serve food should be required to cater to the 8 allergies that represent 90% of the food allergies, the same way that establishments have to accommodate disabilities.
In Ontario where I am from, all businesses including restaurants are forced to adhere to the AODA or acce... | In the U.S. allergies are considered a disability under the ADA (U.S. equivalent of the AODA).
However, the regulation makes it clear that your concerns aren't within the scope and you're making a false equivalence here. The rules are about _exclusion_. You can't be excluded from _the place_ because of the disability... | Mandatory where? At every restaurant? Are there any exceptions?
Its difficult (and often improper) to base proposed regulation on other existing regulation. That's how you turn the "slippery slope" argument into an actual reality.
You have to look at each problem individually and weigh the marginal costs/benefits.... | 8hrac1 | CMV: Restaurants and other establishments that serve food should be required to cater to the 8 allergies that represent 90% of the food allergies, the same way that establishments have to accommodate disabilities. | In Ontario where I am from, all businesses including restaurants are forced to adhere to the AODA or accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act. This required them to spend thousands of dollars implementing access devices, special facilities and other amenities. Despite this however, barriers exist for those wit... | Btalgoy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Bait trucks/cars are a good police operation and I disagree with the backlash they get.
So I just read [this article from CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bait-trucks-chicago-police-taking-hard-look-at-controversial-program-to-lure-thieves/) after seeing it on my Facebook feed. In Chicago, a police operation to ... | Well the problem can be that someone wasn't willing to commit robbery but then when you put a bait car out there that's just worth so much that changes whether or not people are willing to commit said robbery. For example, many people wouldn't be willing to break into a car to get a purse, but if you put the Mona Lisa ... | >Based on what I read in the article, people believe that this targets minorities and is a breakdown of trust, but isn't it targeting criminals and only breaks trust between criminals and the police?
Do you not find it at all suspicious that these are always found in poor black neighborhoods? Why don't they park a Lou... | 96kb4b | CMV: Bait trucks/cars are a good police operation and I disagree with the backlash they get. | So I just read [this article from CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bait-trucks-chicago-police-taking-hard-look-at-controversial-program-to-lure-thieves/) after seeing it on my Facebook feed. In Chicago, a police operation to set up a "bait truck", a truck people are misled into believing contains expensive shoes, so t... | ShiningConcepts | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV - "Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism" is the most ideal society possible.
So this title might sound like a joke and indeed it is inspired by one, but the more I think about it the more I hold the idea that for a perfect Utopia to exist it would have to be a fully automated luxury gay space communist regim... | I believe this would be the ideal for *some* people. Not having to work and you could paint or sail or pursue any of your other interests. A lot of people would find freedom and contentment when you remove many of the constraints of modern society like the need for a job.
The problem is that many would find this soc... | Any form of "end of history" hypothesis/ideal is guaranteed to be wrong. There will always be something better, and a thousand years from now whatever humans become may look back on fully automated luxury gay space communism the same way we do the Middle Ages.
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!delta well that was anticlimactic
Do you atleast t... | d5o134 | CMV - "Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism" is the most ideal society possible. | So this title might sound like a joke and indeed it is inspired by one, but the more I think about it the more I hold the idea that for a perfect Utopia to exist it would have to be a fully automated luxury gay space communist regime.
Fully automated - all menial labor would be handled by AI programs. This would mean ... | NovaInvicta | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: IVF is more ethical than adoption, and "just adopt" is both reductive and ableist
I see a lot of people tell couples who are pursuing IVF or surrogacy to "just adopt." However, having read about adoptee trauma, human trafficking for purposes of international adoption, and how adoption is often the result of infer... | Can you detail those ethical issues about adoption a bit more?
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Sure!
1. Adoption redistributes children from impoverished parents to those who can afford to pay upward of $50,000 for the child. Many times the reason these parents give up their children is inability to financially support them. This suggests tha... | I don't understand how adoption isn't ethical.
My parents couldn't have another child after my brother was born and so they adopted me. I was born in a post-soviet country to a single mother who put me up for adoption. I would have lived in an orphanage until I was 18 and then let loose with no support, no safety net.... | 1c0ka2a | CMV: IVF is more ethical than adoption, and "just adopt" is both reductive and ableist | I see a lot of people tell couples who are pursuing IVF or surrogacy to "just adopt." However, having read about adoptee trauma, human trafficking for purposes of international adoption, and how adoption is often the result of inferior social support systems for impoverished parents, it seems the ethical issues here ar... | seau_de_beurre | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I believe it is never okay to dox anyone, not even Neo-Nazis.
I do not believe that it is okay to dox people by publishing their names, identities, addresses, places of employment against their will. The only time when this is acceptable is when that person is a fugitive and the information about them you are spr... | Do you feel the same way about the Nazis that were photographed beating a man? Do you feel the public shouldn't have helped identify them as a means to pressure the police into arresting them?
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DeAndre Harris? Weren't those men identified before being arrested?
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Only because people doxed them.
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Have a so... | >There was some doxxing of the Unite the Right rally protestors and as much as I despise them, I do not believe that they should be doxxed. You've opened up the door to the counterprotestors being doxxed if you're standard is "I disagree with them vehemently so I will dox them"; those protestors despise the antifa coun... | 6z9p0j | CMV: I believe it is never okay to dox anyone, not even Neo-Nazis. | I do not believe that it is okay to dox people by publishing their names, identities, addresses, places of employment against their will. The only time when this is acceptable is when that person is a fugitive and the information about them you are spreading was released by a police department; and even then, you have ... | ShiningConcepts | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I believe it is never okay to dox anyone, not even Neo-Nazis.
I do not believe that it is okay to dox people by publishing their names, identities, addresses, places of employment against their will. The only time when this is acceptable is when that person is a fugitive and the information about them you are spr... | >There was some doxxing of the Unite the Right rally protestors and as much as I despise them, I do not believe that they should be doxxed. You've opened up the door to the counterprotestors being doxxed if you're standard is "I disagree with them vehemently so I will dox them"; those protestors despise the antifa coun... | **[Edit: do not misread this statement as an endorsement of unwarranted surveillance or invasion of privacy. It only applies to people in a public setting.]**
I would say that if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear. It's unreasonable for someone to do and say evil things and avoid the consequences ... | 6z9p0j | CMV: I believe it is never okay to dox anyone, not even Neo-Nazis. | I do not believe that it is okay to dox people by publishing their names, identities, addresses, places of employment against their will. The only time when this is acceptable is when that person is a fugitive and the information about them you are spreading was released by a police department; and even then, you have ... | ShiningConcepts | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: As soon as a person is aware enough to understand what voting is, they should be able to do so; Since it isn't possible to have a negative outcome from voting.
Any comments about a specific age of the person (EG - 5 years old? 9 years old?) won't change my view. People under the age of 18 would be able to vote u... | People can get a negative outcome from voting by accidentally voting against their own best interests.
Adults do it, too. But at least adults have the ability to gather up all relevant information to make an informed choice, if they want to. Literal children lack the skills to use the internet or libraries very well, ... | You state:
\> The reason there can be no negative outcome, is that there is no objectively "wrong" answer. No matter who the person votes for, it isn't an incorrect or a correct vote. Of course we can all disagree on who people voted for, but the vote cannot be "incorrect".
I get where you're coming from, but I dis... | d5mkmk | CMV: As soon as a person is aware enough to understand what voting is, they should be able to do so; Since it isn't possible to have a negative outcome from voting. | Any comments about a specific age of the person (EG - 5 years old? 9 years old?) won't change my view. People under the age of 18 would be able to vote under my view (probably), but I don't wish to discuss an exact age.
Rather, the point of my view is that unlike smoking, drinking, using firearms, etc... there is no ... | ZeusThunder369 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Lying is always wrong
My position is this: There is no situation you'll come across in your life where you should lie. The only reason you'd want to lie is if you intend to hurt someone, which I think already sets you up for moral failure. My reasons are these:
1. **You hurt your status**. Right away you decreas... | E.g. Do you think people sheltering Jews were wrong to lie when questioned by the Nazi's whether they were or not.?
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That's a great question. First my answer in theory: I think the ideal moral being would be more virtuous in refusing to answer rather than lie. It might have positive effects down the line.
But let... | "Isn't my baby cute?" whether it's true or not the only acceptable answer is "Yes!".
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Haha, you're damn right! Or at least that's the general consensus. I usually say something like "Come on, I'm a man! I can't possibly like the baby until he can hunt his own game." or the exaggerated "Oh dear God, it's an alien!"... | hl0twh | CMV: Lying is always wrong | My position is this: There is no situation you'll come across in your life where you should lie. The only reason you'd want to lie is if you intend to hurt someone, which I think already sets you up for moral failure. My reasons are these:
1. **You hurt your status**. Right away you decrease your own trustworthiness. ... | Palirano | 3 | 3 | [
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