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I remember confronting the CEO of a company that I used to work for and asking him if it made the facility any better, his answer was a firm "NO". I then inquired as to why we do it and the answer was "Because our competition has it".
Best of luck,
Steve Paolini Equipment Dood
Harvard University
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Subject: [labnetwork] Is your facility ISO certified?
Hello.
Is your cleanroom facility ISO certified? What are your reasons for having or not having ISO certification? Are there any particular changes you have had to make to your facility to adhere to standards?
The costs appear to be substantial, and we are still deciding whether or not we should go this route.
Cheers and thanks for your replies,
Joe
Joseph Losby, PhD.
Operations Manager, qLab
Quantum City, University of Calgary
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From: cveith at seas.upenn.edu (Charles Veith)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 11:07:30 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] Is your facility ISO certified?
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Hi SamanthaL:
The organization is called IEST.Org
Here is the link to the class
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These are the Certs I would recommend.
IEST Cleanroom Fundamentals Certificate
IEST ISO 14644 Fundamentals Certificate
IEST Cleanroom Operations Certificate
I have combined the microcontamination and lab
stockroom (I buy most of the material for the lab for
many reasons including using high quality materials).
By merging these two process, I was able to save
$2.76-$3.76 million over eight years. Which is immediately
passed on to the users in lower cost, which attracts more
customers.
Charlie
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 10:50?AM Samantha Roberts <spr26 at cornell.edu> wrote:
> Hello Charles -
>
> My name is Samantha Robert's, I am the new director at the CUNY ASRC
> Nanofab facility.
>
> Could you tell me what 3-day class you were recommending to learn the
> proper protocols? I would love to register for something similar myself.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best
> Sam
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 8:32 AM Charles Veith <cveith at seas.upenn.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joe
>> I might be wrong but the ISO Standards are primarily for
>> manufacturing facilities. As for a
>> research lab, I do not believe extra spending and huge increase in
>> paperwork can not be
>> justified.
>> My recommendation would be to take the 3 day class clean room
>> protocols and then
>> implement them. At one point our former Technical Director Noah Clay was
>> reporting that our
>> iso quals in the lithography was .5 ISO higher than the room was
>> rated(There was no adjustment
>> of air flow to accomplish this). This was totally done through proper
>> daily/weekly/month cleaning
>> procedures.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 3:51?PM Joseph Losby <joseph.losby at ucalgary.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Is your cleanroom facility ISO certified? What are your reasons for
>>> having or not having ISO certification? Are there any particular changes
>>> you have had to make to your facility to adhere to standards?
>>>
>>> The costs appear to be substantial, and we are still deciding whether or
>>> not we should go this route.
>>>
>>> Cheers and thanks for your replies,
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>> Joseph Losby, PhD.
>>> Operations Manager, qLab