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From Howard.Northfield at uottawa.ca Thu Mar 23 09:15:12 2023 |
From: Howard.Northfield at uottawa.ca (Howard Northfield) |
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 13:15:12 +0000 |
Subject: [labnetwork] Is your facility ISO certified? |
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I was a test ISO auditor at the past Nortel (telecommunications company) during a big push for ISO 9001 certification in the late 1990s, purely to be able to market in Europe. |
ISO really only demands a trail of record of internal process, it does not define process details or quality levels. |
Howard |
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From: labnetwork <labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> on behalf of Paolini, Steven <spaolini at cns.fas.harvard.edu> |
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 4:47 PM |
To: Joseph Losby <joseph.losby at ucalgary.ca>; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu <labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu> |
Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Is your facility ISO certified? |
Attention : courriel externe | external email |
Joseph, |
ISO certification is primarily for a manufacturing facility. I don't know of any benefit a shared use facility (I'm assuming that's what you have) would gain. |
Becoming ISO certified is extremely expensive and disruptive, you must also allow annual "audits" to your facility which again are very expensive and disruptive. |
Iso Certification, in simple terms is just an accreditation that you do what you document and document what you do. |
I remember confronting the CEO of a company that I used to work for and asking him if it made the facility any better, his answer was a firm "NO". I then inquired as to why we do it and the answer was "Because our competition has it". |
Best of luck, |
Steve Paolini Equipment Dood |
Harvard University |
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From: labnetwork <labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> on behalf of Joseph Losby <joseph.losby at ucalgary.ca> |
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:47 PM |
To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu <labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu> |
Subject: [labnetwork] Is your facility ISO certified? |
Hello. |
Is your cleanroom facility ISO certified? What are your reasons for having or not having ISO certification? Are there any particular changes you have had to make to your facility to adhere to standards? |
The costs appear to be substantial, and we are still deciding whether or not we should go this route. |
Cheers and thanks for your replies, |
Joe |
Joseph Losby, PhD. |
Operations Manager, qLab |
Quantum City, University of Calgary |
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From Peter.Lomax at ed.ac.uk Thu Mar 23 10:35:40 2023 |
From: Peter.Lomax at ed.ac.uk (Peter Lomax) |
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 14:35:40 +0000 |
Subject: [labnetwork] Is your facility ISO certified? |
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Hi Joseph, |
At SMC in Edinburgh we did consider this but decided it wasn't worth the effort involved for an open access facility. We do try to have decent systems with good documentation in place and regularly do work for large ISO9000 certified organisations and have always managed to satisfy them with an audit. |
Best |
Peter |
From: labnetwork <labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> On Behalf Of Paolini, Steven |
Sent: 22 March 2023 20:47 |
To: Joseph Losby <joseph.losby at ucalgary.ca>; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu |
Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Is your facility ISO certified? |
This email was sent to you by someone outside the University. |
You should only click on links or attachments if you are certain that the email is genuine and the content is safe. |
Joseph, |
ISO certification is primarily for a manufacturing facility. I don't know of any benefit a shared use facility (I'm assuming that's what you have) would gain. |
Becoming ISO certified is extremely expensive and disruptive, you must also allow annual "audits" to your facility which again are very expensive and disruptive. |
Iso Certification, in simple terms is just an accreditation that you do what you document and document what you do. |
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