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programmingcirclejerk | duckbill_principate | isnvc86 | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|soopr|>JavaScript greybeards
Bottom text<|eoopr|><|sor|>beard so gray their resume still lists DHTML<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 42 |
programmingcirclejerk | jalembung | isnsf24 | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>he's either never been 360 no scooped by undefined is not a function or an actual god in human form. my gut says it's the latter.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 37 |
programmingcirclejerk | elmosworld37 | isp9szt | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>At this point there's no difference between JS devs and C devs.<|eor|><|sor|>I mean I wish just dont be bad was the universal law of all programming languages<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 33 |
programmingcirclejerk | OpsikionThemed | isopqhj | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>> Do not use random libraries. A good library should have even some basic docs outline its API and how to use it.
Why have types when you can have documentation?<|eor|><|sor|>I love writing documentation. It saves effort I could have spent on types because it doesn't have to be correct.<|eor|><|sor|>Tired: borrow checker
Wired: "this function does not leak memory"<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 33 |
programmingcirclejerk | mwassler | ispqgaa | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>> good design patterns<|eor|><|sor|>I remember it looking something like
$(document).ready(function(){
$('a').click(function($el){
$('a').removeClass("active")
$($el).addClass("active")
})
// continued for 13000 more lines
})
was a golden age of architecture indeed<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 27 |
programmingcirclejerk | UnShame | isnhi7k | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>I've never used interfaces and I've never missed them.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 24 |
programmingcirclejerk | affectation_man | ispxrdg | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>~~Compiler~~
~~Transpiler~~
Linter
drake.jpg<|eor|><|sor|>What's a transpiler, is that like a linter? :S<|eor|><|sor|>It's like a compiler, but the output is Made With . Wasn't possible before GitHub<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 21 |
programmingcirclejerk | homoiconic | ispff28 | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|soopr|>JavaScript greybeards
Bottom text<|eoopr|><|sor|>beard so gray their resume still lists DHTML<|eor|><|sor|>Look here, the XMLHttpRequest is just mollycoddling nonsense. REAL programmers request an image from the server and extract two integers from it: The height and width. Thats all you need, if you want text or anything more complex, just build up from there.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | mwassler | isppook | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>>No IDE
The browser is an IDE. All of it.<|eor|><|sor|>Unfortunately yes. I don't understand why browsers ship a full blown debugger to everyone including grandma.<|eor|><|sor|>for news site paywall popups<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | fp_weenie | isnvso3 | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>> good design patterns<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | RidderHaddock | isowi4p | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>> good design patterns<|eor|><|sor|>public class IntegerIntegerStringReturnerFactory implements IntegerStringReturnerFactory<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 15 |
programmingcirclejerk | Safe_Ask_8798 | isoka1u | <|sols|><|sot|>I'm not a myth. Some of us started JS programming over a decade ago, with no strong typing and IDE to hold our hand and tell us every time you make a mistake. The key is just discipline, good design patterns and a good linter.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22626294<|eol|><|sor|>I'm not a myth. Some of started before Node, with no package manager to hold our hand and tell us you made a mistake. The key is just discipline and looking up and manually importing each sub dependency for every package. And a good linter <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessionalTheory8 | vgncoa | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 148 |
programmingcirclejerk | senj | id2sqtx | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>these are the best thoughts of legitimate professionals
/uj these are the best thoughts of legitimate fucking morons<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 91 |
programmingcirclejerk | nuggins | id2q1kk | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>Why do you even want to compile js to wasm<|eor|><|sor|>> "This is actually much more practical than you might think." No, I will not elaborate.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 91 |
programmingcirclejerk | TheMemer____ | id2e4cs | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>Why do you even want to compile js to wasm<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 53 |
programmingcirclejerk | pareidolist | id3gme3 | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>Why do you even want to compile js to wasm<|eor|><|sor|>> "This is actually much more practical than you might think." No, I will not elaborate.<|eor|><|sor|> I have discovered a truly marvelous example of this, which this blog post is too short to contain.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 50 |
programmingcirclejerk | irqlnotdispatchlevel | id2t98e | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>WASM is the cryptocurrency of programming languages.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 34 |
programmingcirclejerk | MCRusher | id2ybgg | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>/uj
correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that just make it even slower? like, WASM is already slower than native (saw some things state ~50% native speed which sounds about right)<|eor|><|sor|>yes
​
"What if instead of rewriting our java codebase in C#, we just write a Java vm for C# and then run the project in it?"<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 34 |
programmingcirclejerk | feral_brick | id2uqxg | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>WASM is the cryptocurrency of programming languages.<|eor|><|sor|>WASM is the WASM of webshit tech<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 32 |
programmingcirclejerk | CdRReddit | id2suxt | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>/uj
correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that just make it even slower? like, WASM is already slower than native (saw some things state ~50% native speed which sounds about right)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 30 |
programmingcirclejerk | CoderCharmander | id2x1o9 | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>> The use of WebAssembly for serverless and containerisation has climbed. If you want to know why WebAssembly is such a significant technology for these applications, Id recommend tha article,Pay Attention to WebAssembly, orWhen WebAssembly Replaces Dockerwhich coves the various talks at Kubecon this year.
> WebAssembly can be used to integrateJavaScript (JS),C++andRustin addition to HTML and CSS into a single runtime platform in a binary format that runs directly on a machine level on the CPU.
Soo... Java/.NET but webshit?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 27 |
programmingcirclejerk | senj | id3319k | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>these are the best thoughts of legitimate professionals
/uj these are the best thoughts of legitimate fucking morons<|eor|><|sor|>How many people can possibly be compiling the JavaScript engine to wasm and using it anyway. Shouldn't the simple fact that yiu can't do JS to wasm disqualify it?
Please explain js being in 2nd place uj<|eor|><|sor|>Obvious answer is that these JS webshits don't use wasm, they're just so stupid they think that if they do JS in a browser they must be using it somehow.
Sometimes the simplest answer is best.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 23 |
programmingcirclejerk | twilightflower9 | id36w71 | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>/uj
correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that just make it even slower? like, WASM is already slower than native (saw some things state ~50% native speed which sounds about right)<|eor|><|sor|>yes
​
"What if instead of rewriting our java codebase in C#, we just write a Java vm for C# and then run the project in it?"<|eor|><|sor|>I saw you liked python so I wrote your python in python<|eor|><|sor|>that's just pypy<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 23 |
programmingcirclejerk | VariationDistinct330 | id2xk8p | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>these are the best thoughts of legitimate professionals
/uj these are the best thoughts of legitimate fucking morons<|eor|><|sor|>How many people can possibly be compiling the JavaScript engine to wasm and using it anyway. Shouldn't the simple fact that yiu can't do JS to wasm disqualify it?
Please explain js being in 2nd place uj<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | winepath | id2xuax | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>Before you know it we'll have a cross platform web assembly runtime by compiling wasmer/wasmtime to wasm<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | chayleaf | id3hc7z | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>Why do you even want to compile js to wasm<|eor|><|sor|>/uj js sandboxing is pretty much the only example I could think of. That and running js in a wasm-only engine (not in browser).<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | YM_Industries | id3y64y | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>Why do you even want to compile js to wasm<|eor|><|sor|>> "This is actually much more practical than you might think." No, I will not elaborate.<|eor|><|sor|>There's an embedded Twitter thread after that. Apparently the blockchain $NEAR can run WebAssembly on nodes, and people want to write stuff for it in JS.
If this seems absolutely batshit, that's because it is.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | WasabiofIP | id4440w | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>WASM is the cryptocurrency of programming languages.<|eor|><|sor|>Very useful for niche problems, commonly applied places it doesn't belong because it's the hot new thing, yeah, that checks out.
I'm yet to see a usecase WASM really fits outside of web games.<|eor|><|sor|>`<unjerk>`
wasm offers a portable native-like environment for native applications, especially with WASI, which potentially means that existing native applications can be compiled and shipped around in a truly architecture independent way.
You can see this paying off with [wapm](https://wapm.io/), which lets you download applications that would have normally required compilation for your environment and run them *anywhere* with a supported runtime, which is imo pretty neat.
There are other interesting applications too, like [Lunatic](https://lunatic.solutions), which replicates the BEAM VM experience but with any language that compiles to wasm and can have language bindings written for it.
`</unjerk>`
lol webshits finding new ways to make the web even slower<|eor|><|sor|>> You can see this paying off with wapm, which lets you download applications that would have normally required compilation for your environment and run them anywhere with a supported runtime, which is imo pretty neat.
Wow, this is brilliant new tech! Who knows, maybe after a few decades, billions of devices will run it!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | EpicDaNoob | id2szs1 | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>Jesus fuck<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 15 |
programmingcirclejerk | MCRusher | id2ygqm | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>So glad we have WASM to increase the efficency of webshit code
Now they can fuck up twice as hard with a lesser effect<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 15 |
programmingcirclejerk | WasabiofIP | id44dc1 | <|sols|><|sot|>Theres a cunning workaround for this challenge; rather than compiling JS to Wasm, you can instead compile a JavaScript engine to WebAssembly then use that to execute your code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://blog.scottlogic.com/2022/06/20/state-of-wasm-2022.html<|eol|><|sor|>> The use of WebAssembly for serverless and containerisation has climbed. If you want to know why WebAssembly is such a significant technology for these applications, Id recommend tha article,Pay Attention to WebAssembly, orWhen WebAssembly Replaces Dockerwhich coves the various talks at Kubecon this year.
> WebAssembly can be used to integrateJavaScript (JS),C++andRustin addition to HTML and CSS into a single runtime platform in a binary format that runs directly on a machine level on the CPU.
Soo... Java/.NET but webshit?<|eor|><|sor|>Take a look at my new invention, Wheel 3.0!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | Fearless_Process | ufkt0k | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 143 |
programmingcirclejerk | tomwhoiscontrary | i6u59up | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 112 |
programmingcirclejerk | fp_weenie | i6u6epf | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|sor|>> And the author livetweeting the response.
lel at gophers getting moderators to step in because they can't handle the criticism. very pragmatic.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 52 |
programmingcirclejerk | McGlockenshire | i6vmesd | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|sor|>> EDIT
> #
> FDIT
> #
> GDIT
I'm a big endian fan but this big endian increment shit is heresy<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 40 |
programmingcirclejerk | ffscc | i6v9xnt | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>> For decades *everyone* mercilessly mocks web languages like JavaScript and PHP for being the 3rd world languages of tech.
> webshitters literally **do not give a fuck** and continued shoving JabbaScript down our throats, at their leisure.
> They even escape containment and bring JS to the backend. Again, we can only watch as NPM bloats application runtimes while increasing the attack surface by multiple orders of magnitude.
I mean, it's impressive how prolific webshitters are. Like, I would have never guessed that so many of my desktop applications would end up becoming reskinned browsers. And, tbh, forcing all of this dumb shit on the rest of us is kind of a Chad move.
On the other hand, Gophers are malding over a blog post on the orange site. In fact, more than any other community, gophers epitomize an attitude of *Sour Grapes*. What gives?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 31 |
programmingcirclejerk | pastenpasten | i6v6gdi | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>>luminary
>
>noun
>
>1 a person who inspires or influences others, especially one prominent in a particular sphere.
[https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aluminary](https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aluminary)
Okay. Technically they are. But it doesn't mean they influence or inspire in a positive way.
<Insert your preferred socialjerk example here><|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | irqlnotdispatchlevel | i6vmkna | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|sor|>> And the author livetweeting the response.
lel at gophers getting moderators to step in because they can't handle the criticism. very pragmatic.<|eor|><|sor|>Chant after me: not a cult! Not a cult!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | feral_brick | i6vfxpi | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>It's not a ddos, it's a cheap load test that doesn't violate the TOS
Keep up, aren't you reading the live thread?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | WomanRespecter67 | i89hfef | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>Thank you, /u/fasterthanlime, for creating centuries worth of PCJ material<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 10 |
programmingcirclejerk | fasterthanlime | i8aojkz | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>Thank you, /u/fasterthanlime, for creating centuries worth of PCJ material<|eor|><|sor|>I'm not sure what's the most surprising thing this month: nVidia open-sourcing kernel drivers or PCJ cheering me on.
But hey, while I'm here, here's my favorite [conspiracy theory comment](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31232506) from an HN mod:
> **There certainly some smart trolling here**: the author is aware of the drama, and posting interesting stuff around it, some on HN keep posting this blog to see if the drama resumes. After all it's just innocent and interesting talk, who would be so hateful to flag this? "Why is the golang clique so fragile?"
> It feels like a standoff trying to see who's gonna break first. I certainly am done seeing this blog posted now three? four? days in a row and mentions the golang drama in the comments and veiled in the blog keeping the ashes alight.
>
> It certainly sounds like a social exploit of HN which creates an interesting precedent.
(Link might not work, comment was flagged & dead)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 8 |
programmingcirclejerk | SelfDistinction | i6vype7 | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|sor|>> EDIT
> #
> FDIT
> #
> GDIT
I'm a big endian fan but this big endian increment shit is heresy<|eor|><|sor|>It's little-endian though. In memory strings are stored in an ascending way, so location 0 has E, 1 has D, 2 has I and 3 has T. In little-endian the first byte, at location 0, contains the least significant bits.
Ergo, in LE, EDIT + 1 = FDIT.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | git_commit_-m_sudoku | i6xbyzj | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|sor|>> EDIT
> #
> FDIT
> #
> GDIT
I'm a big endian fan but this big endian increment shit is heresy<|eor|><|sor|>It's little-endian though. In memory strings are stored in an ascending way, so location 0 has E, 1 has D, 2 has I and 3 has T. In little-endian the first byte, at location 0, contains the least significant bits.
Ergo, in LE, EDIT + 1 = FDIT.<|eor|><|sor|>\> <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 6 |
programmingcirclejerk | McGlockenshire | i6x941w | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|sor|>> EDIT
> #
> FDIT
> #
> GDIT
I'm a big endian fan but this big endian increment shit is heresy<|eor|><|sor|>It's little-endian though. In memory strings are stored in an ascending way, so location 0 has E, 1 has D, 2 has I and 3 has T. In little-endian the first byte, at location 0, contains the least significant bits.
Ergo, in LE, EDIT + 1 = FDIT.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
Been working on a homebrew built on the TMS99105 and the documentation uses a bit order where 0 is the LSB and rightmost while 15 is the MSB and leftmost. Thanks for doing it wrong compared to everything else I've encountered, 1974-1982 TI!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 6 |
programmingcirclejerk | RunItAndSee2021 | i6vd2bt | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|sor|>fraggin epoch counter.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | fasterthanlime | i8aox5y | <|sols|><|sot|>"Especially since [Go] was designed by computer science luminaries who are almost certainly better programmers/engineers than the author of this blog."<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31205072&p=2#31207248<|eol|><|sor|>My god, this whole thread is almost pure jerk. And the article it's discussing is wild. And the [author livetweeting the response](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992). And the fact that someone is DDoSing him.
To anyone who had their jerkcoin invested in Drew DeVault: sorry, but Amos Wenger is now eating your lunch.
EDIT And the [profile explaining why his static website written in Rust is falling over at 800 requests per second](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520049059389652992).
FDIT And the [prequel Twitter thread i think](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1519455555517136902).
GDIT From the livetweet thread:
> [I love how the Go team can say "we literally don't care about language design, anyone who does is a nerd and we don't hire nerds" every occasion they get for eight years straight and when I say "they didn't design a language" suddenly I'm the asshole](https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/status/1520062537366220800)
This is top-tier material that on a normal day would be its own post on PCJ, but as one of the Rust founders wrote, "there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen".<|eor|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>It's not a ddos, it's a cheap load test that doesn't violate the TOS
Keep up, aren't you reading the live thread?<|eor|><|sor|>/uj It was a weird-ass attack. Clearly not trying very hard and barely exceeding 5K RPS during spikes, but almost perfectly (geographically) distributed. Most likely explanation is Tor but Tor advocates say "that's impossible, Tor exit nodes are marked as such" <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | cmov | ua99f3 | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 148 |
programmingcirclejerk | doomvox | i5wi5ro | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>It's bad enough starting out with Fortran, you gradually realize that every single new breakthrough language isn't actually much of an improvement. You eventually figure out that software development is a collaborative social process and you've locked yourself in a little room with a bunch of autistic headcases, con-artists and religious fanatics.
Hang on, I'm sure there's a joke here. Let me think...<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 91 |
programmingcirclejerk | cuminme69420 | i5wlnjw | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in particle physics.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 78 |
programmingcirclejerk | lessPandas | i5w7pva | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>/uj Where's the jerk?
/rj Is assembler like wasm?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 64 |
programmingcirclejerk | Kotauskas | i5wc42g | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>/uj Where's the jerk?
/rj Is assembler like wasm?<|eor|><|sor|>>/uj Where's the jerk?
lol no abstraction<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 59 |
programmingcirclejerk | -fno-stack-protector | i5xieug | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>i couldn't imagine being a farmer without starting out by becoming proficient in genetic engineering. it takes a lot of the mystery out of farming because you know whatever the crop is it all ends up as proteins, carbohydrates, vitamins, spider's legs and bits of grit<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 49 |
programmingcirclejerk | lessPandas | i5wce2h | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>/uj Where's the jerk?
/rj Is assembler like wasm?<|eor|><|sor|>>/uj Where's the jerk?
lol no abstraction<|eor|><|sor|>No abstraction needed, we have acceptance criteria for all possible branches of execution in the Jira ticket<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 41 |
programmingcirclejerk | cmov | i5x42v4 | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>Apart from the hyperbole I don't think this is a bad take, just a little dramatic and imprecise<|eor|><|soopr|>Apart from the lack of zero-cost abstractions, move semantics, guaranteed memory safety, threads without data races, trait-based generics, pattern matching, type inference, minimal runtime, efficient C bindings, I don't think Go is a bad language, just a little slow and verbose.<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 36 |
programmingcirclejerk | OctagonClock | i5y2jww | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>/uj Where's the jerk?
/rj Is assembler like wasm?<|eor|><|sor|>>/uj Where's the jerk?
lol no abstraction<|eor|><|sor|>In assembly everything is zero cost<|eor|><|sor|>I love my zero cost assembly. Time to write a function that is mysteriously slower because I put these instructions in the wrong order<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 28 |
programmingcirclejerk | OctagonClock | i5y2oly | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>This can be /uj'd by saying that all programmers should have some experience with Assembly at some point. First? That's a tall order. But the point being made about learning Assembly generally having value isn't really a jerk.<|eor|><|sor|>You're not a real programmer until you memorise all the stupid ways that GCC will fuck up your code.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | Karyo_Ten | i5yze1w | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in particle physics.<|eor|><|sor|>I can't imagine being a physicist without starting out by becoming proficient in category theory.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 25 |
programmingcirclejerk | life-is-a-loop | i5wuqds | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>Apart from the hyperbole I don't think this is a bad take, just a little dramatic and imprecise<|eor|><|sor|>> hyperbole
>
> dramatic and imprecise
_that's_ why it's a bad take<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 23 |
programmingcirclejerk | themaddowrealm | i5xn4rc | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>i couldn't imagine being a farmer without starting out by becoming proficient in genetic engineering. it takes a lot of the mystery out of farming because you know whatever the crop is it all ends up as proteins, carbohydrates, vitamins, spider's legs and bits of grit<|eor|><|sor|>I cant imagine being a farmer without starting out with design and manufacture of tractor engines and with mining the metals to make them, nor without first a specialists understanding of cosmology and geology to fully understand the geoformative processes that were responsible for my soil.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | shami1kemi1 | i5xepsx | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>It's bad enough starting out with Fortran, you gradually realize that every single new breakthrough language isn't actually much of an improvement. You eventually figure out that software development is a collaborative social process and you've locked yourself in a little room with a bunch of autistic headcases, con-artists and religious fanatics.
Hang on, I'm sure there's a joke here. Let me think...<|eor|><|sor|>lol FORTRAN instead of Lisp<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | fzammetti | i5xk5eh | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>This can be /uj'd by saying that all programmers should have some experience with Assembly at some point. First? That's a tall order. But the point being made about learning Assembly generally having value isn't really a jerk.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | james_pic | i5zd3nl | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>This can be /uj'd by saying that all programmers should have some experience with Assembly at some point. First? That's a tall order. But the point being made about learning Assembly generally having value isn't really a jerk.<|eor|><|sor|>The main benefit of knowing assembly is that you can use the names of x86 opcodes in conversations with 0.1x-ers to signal dominance.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | Bioman312 | i5xoox5 | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>Gonna start refusing to write code in lieu of throwing my hands up and saying "it's all branches and calls anyway".<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 12 |
programmingcirclejerk | PrimozDelux | i5wq1q8 | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>Apart from the hyperbole I don't think this is a bad take, just a little dramatic and imprecise<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 12 |
programmingcirclejerk | Shorttail0 | i5xpj5a | <|sols|><|sot|>I can't imagine being a programmer without starting out by becoming proficient in assembler. It takes a lot of mystery out of programming languages because you know whatever the syntax is it all ends up as branches, calls, stacks, registers and memory accesses.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31135160<|eol|><|sor|>/uj Where's the jerk?
/rj Is assembler like wasm?<|eor|><|sor|>>/uj Where's the jerk?
lol no abstraction<|eor|><|sor|>In assembly everything is zero cost<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 12 |
programmingcirclejerk | doctor-5000 | u1l5li | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 149 |
programmingcirclejerk | posting_drunk_naked | i4d4ijy | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>TIL micropython exists. Seems like a "could rather than should" type situation, but what do I know?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 69 |
programmingcirclejerk | doctor-5000 | i4d4x1z | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>TIL micropython exists. Seems like a "could rather than should" type situation, but what do I know?<|eor|><|soopr|>Dont want to ship a runtime for your toaster? Sounds like ~~white castle~~ ivory tower cronyism to me.<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 55 |
programmingcirclejerk | SimokIV | i4d65jj | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>I honestly don't even bother anymore, I write the whole damn thing in Java and if my target architecture doesn't support it yet, I just hire a consulting firm to port the JVM on that damn thing.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 46 |
programmingcirclejerk | voidvector | i4dkhax | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>Open link, Ctrl+F, "Rust", no matches, Ctrl+W. Debating between two languages - one advancing global warming, one unsafe - is cringe, ok?<|eor|><|sor|>That thread is unsafe. They should've marked it with `unsafe { }`<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 43 |
programmingcirclejerk | reddit_pls_fix | i4d59g6 | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>This dude is clearly insecure about his MicroPython.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 39 |
programmingcirclejerk | fp_weenie | i4czypb | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>I use embedded Haskal.
btw<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 32 |
programmingcirclejerk | duckbill_principate | i4dcb6n | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>TIL micropython exists. Seems like a "could rather than should" type situation, but what do I know?<|eor|><|soopr|>Dont want to ship a runtime for your toaster? Sounds like ~~white castle~~ ivory tower cronyism to me.<|eoopr|><|sor|>you can get a $450 toaster these days with a touchscreen and wifi, so I would assume the chip is sufficient to run a stripped python fine. its certainly more powerful than your average desktop when python first blew up.
it sounds ludicrous to me, but considering I spent $55 on fast food yesterday for three people, and didnt even get the 2,000cal desert, it might actually be priced very competitively. whos to say, really?
however, do note, it burns toast frequently, so probably needs to be rewritten in rust.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 31 |
programmingcirclejerk | posting_drunk_naked | i4darme | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>TIL micropython exists. Seems like a "could rather than should" type situation, but what do I know?<|eor|><|sor|>[removed]<|eor|><|sor|>Yeah I suppose. It just raises the same alarms in my mind as things like "JavaScript backend" or "excel database". Sure it works, but you're going to have to budget for therapy for any devs that have to work on it.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 29 |
programmingcirclejerk | Goheeca | i4d6f5p | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>TIL micropython exists. Seems like a "could rather than should" type situation, but what do I know?<|eor|><|sor|>/uj When I was checking where I can call functions from underlying C/C++ in some interpreted language and vice versa, my results were:
* micropython -- bad
* eLua -- couldn't get it running in a short span of time and I didn't like it
* espruino -- I didn't even bother
* zForth -- probably could be done, but too low level to my taste
* ChaiScript -- too big for my board
* uLisp -- this one was actually ok, but I've abandoned the project<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | xe3to | i4evofy | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>I honestly don't even bother anymore, I write the whole damn thing in Java and if my target architecture doesn't support it yet, I just hire a consulting firm to port the JVM on that damn thing.<|eor|><|sor|>3 Billion and One Devices Run Java<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessorSexyTime | i4dxu37 | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>TIL micropython exists. Seems like a "could rather than should" type situation, but what do I know?<|eor|><|sor|>/uj When I was checking where I can call functions from underlying C/C++ in some interpreted language and vice versa, my results were:
* micropython -- bad
* eLua -- couldn't get it running in a short span of time and I didn't like it
* espruino -- I didn't even bother
* zForth -- probably could be done, but too low level to my taste
* ChaiScript -- too big for my board
* uLisp -- this one was actually ok, but I've abandoned the project<|eor|><|sor|>Still looks like a win for Lisp to me.
Hast thou heard of the [LambdaChip](https://www.lambdachip.com/index/)?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 24 |
programmingcirclejerk | duckbill_principate | i4dr2rj | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>I honestly don't even bother anymore, I write the whole damn thing in Java and if my target architecture doesn't support it yet, I just hire a consulting firm to port the JVM on that damn thing.<|eor|><|sor|>can't wait for the JVM microwave implementation<|eor|><|sor|>you say this like it isnt a thing already<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | RedbloodJarvey | i4g7do8 | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>TIL micropython exists. Seems like a "could rather than should" type situation, but what do I know?<|eor|><|sor|>Micropython is perfect in certain situations:
1. You love python's "batteries included"
1. You don't want to have to learn another languages,
1. Especially one that doesn't have all the mature libraries python does.
All you have to do is:
1. Take all the batteries out of python
1. Learn a new syntax for python
1. And not have access to all the mature python libraries.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | TigreDeLosLlanos | i4dv89x | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>Since HAL can run in a 2001 computer I wouldn't bother with performance too much.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | Zlodo2 | i4f2aim | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>I love python.
I love that if i don't install python using the windows store, python.exe in my current path may point to a fake python.exe that opens windows store, but if i do install it using windows store, the py.exe launcher created to work around all that kind of shit will not be installed, and i love that most things will just use python.exe directly anyway since py.exe is windows specific.
And I really love that even if i don't use python myself, i may be exposed to all of that clown show because I decided to use something that happens to have been written in python.
I love all that shit. I love waddling in it, rolling in it all day long.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | duckbill_principate | i4dxo1e | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>Since HAL can run in a 2001 computer I wouldn't bother with performance too much.<|eor|><|soopr|> import unjerk as uj
I got a hearty sincere stifled chuckle out of that one on kind of a shitty day. Thanks for the heckin laugherino kind stranger.<|eoopr|><|sor|>> heckin laugherino
on a scale between 1 and -100, with 1 being practically none, and -100 being you, how high would you rate your self-respect?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | OctagonClock | i4du5ta | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>TIL micropython exists. Seems like a "could rather than should" type situation, but what do I know?<|eor|><|sor|>[removed]<|eor|><|sor|>/uj define serious.
Ive got a *lightbulb* here thats only about 60Mhz shy of running just about any interpreted language at a reasonable speed. and probably the only reason its not using some dual core 1.8Ghz chip with 1GB RAM is because its a freaking lightbulb and they want to sell a billion of them at $20 a pop.
not everything is still running a 24Mhz 8-bit RISC.<|eor|><|sor|>It's about the memory, not the speed. When 90% of RAM is taken up by the interpreter you can't do much and the Python usually ends up looking like a crippled variant of C anywyam<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | gluityjerk | i4do193 | <|sols|><|sot|>[recommending C instead of embedded python] Sounds pretty much like elitist gatekeeping<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/r/embedded/comments/u1f4n2/_/i4c0ck0/?context=1<|eol|><|sor|>TIL micropython exists. Seems like a "could rather than should" type situation, but what do I know?<|eor|><|sor|>/uj When I was checking where I can call functions from underlying C/C++ in some interpreted language and vice versa, my results were:
* micropython -- bad
* eLua -- couldn't get it running in a short span of time and I didn't like it
* espruino -- I didn't even bother
* zForth -- probably could be done, but too low level to my taste
* ChaiScript -- too big for my board
* uLisp -- this one was actually ok, but I've abandoned the project<|eor|><|sor|>Not luajit?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | doyouevensunbro | tcstb2 | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 147 |
programmingcirclejerk | Kodiologist | i0ftc28 | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>Poor Microsoft, by contrast, is just trying to do the right thing.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 148 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProgrammersAreSexy | i0fwky5 | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>I would never use a corporate Microsoft platform like .NET I prefer hip and open-source tools like TypeScript and VS Code <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 120 |
programmingcirclejerk | doyouevensunbro | i0gbsdq | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>Google gets 0.1 cents every time a Go LOC is executed in production, everybody knows that<|eor|><|soopr|>Lol no generics finally explained<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 101 |
programmingcirclejerk | Floppie7th | i0g8s4j | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>Google gets 0.1 cents every time a Go LOC is executed in production, everybody knows that<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 82 |
programmingcirclejerk | doyouevensunbro | i0furbo | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>Poor Microsoft, by contrast, is just trying to do the right thing.<|eor|><|soopr|>Clearly, the 'G' in Go stands for 'greed'<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 82 |
programmingcirclejerk | NiceTerm | i0fcuuo | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>Dont think he knows how Google makes money. Or Microsoft for that matter.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 56 |
programmingcirclejerk | ShirkingDemiurge | i0g78ir | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>Don't use <language made by greedy corporation>, use <language made by greedy corporation>!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 56 |
programmingcirclejerk | powerhcm8 | i0g1t5f | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>Poor Microsoft, by contrast, is just trying to do the right thing.<|eor|><|soopr|>Clearly, the 'G' in Go stands for 'greed'<|eoopr|><|sor|>And google has 2 Gs so it has twice the greed<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 41 |
programmingcirclejerk | JohnnyElBravo | i0g4s1m | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>I would never use a corporate Microsoft platform like .NET I prefer hip and open-source tools like TypeScript and VS Code <|eor|><|sor|>And .NET core! It's open source, it's an entirely differnet thing<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 31 |
programmingcirclejerk | AprilSpektra | i0giihv | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>I would never use a corporate Microsoft platform like .NET I prefer hip and open-source tools like TypeScript and VS Code <|eor|><|sor|>I still use Visual Basic 6.0 because I refuse to sell out by downloading Visual Studio<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 28 |
programmingcirclejerk | ScriptingInJava | i0h9o9c | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>The real gold comes later on
>.NET just seems a lot more full featured and batteries included. I haven't used either, but .NET looks pretty fun to develop with.
>
>I think I'd still take JS over either though.<|eor|><|sor|>> .NET just seems a lot more full featured and batteries included. I haven't used either, but .NET looks pretty fun to develop with.
Wheres the jerk?
> I think I'd still take JS over either though.
Oh.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 25 |
programmingcirclejerk | ackfoobar | i0go3da | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>I wish more people would use Kotlin instead of Go, which is pushed by JetBrains so JetBrains can make more money.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | nuclearbananana | i0h6yfu | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>The real gold comes later on
>.NET just seems a lot more full featured and batteries included. I haven't used either, but .NET looks pretty fun to develop with.
>
>I think I'd still take JS over either though.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | doyouevensunbro | i0g5qx7 | <|sols|><|sot|>I wish more people would use .NET ecosystem instead of Go, which is pushed by Google so Google can make more money.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30655181<|eol|><|sor|>Poor Microsoft, by contrast, is just trying to do the right thing.<|eor|><|soopr|>Clearly, the 'G' in Go stands for 'greed'<|eoopr|><|sor|>And google has 2 Gs so it has twice the greed<|eor|><|soopr|>That's just math, friends. Hide your wallets.<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
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