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programmingcirclejerk | apemanzilla | fagx8g7 | <|sols|><|sot|>Implementing generics will slow down compilation by probably a factor of ten or more. I could instead manually search and replace one package to change its payload type in less than a few days. Over the lifespan of the project that is time I will lose to the compiler.<|eot|><|sol|>https://old.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/e8zmzz/whats_with_the_hate_for_generics/fafrtcz/<|eol|><|sor|>Really struggling to jerk here... the Java, C#, D compilers are all super fast. Just because C++ and Rust have slow as shit compilation doesn't mean everything with generics has to.<|eor|><|sor|>And Nim.
Edit seems like both Zig and V also figured out generics and fast compilation.<|eor|><|sor|>I don't know if V is good for anything other than compilation speed though...<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 25 |
programmingcirclejerk | silentconfessor | fah1upu | <|sols|><|sot|>Implementing generics will slow down compilation by probably a factor of ten or more. I could instead manually search and replace one package to change its payload type in less than a few days. Over the lifespan of the project that is time I will lose to the compiler.<|eot|><|sol|>https://old.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/e8zmzz/whats_with_the_hate_for_generics/fafrtcz/<|eol|><|sor|>> based on procedural model the generic is better. But Go is one third each procedural, concurrent and functional. Generics are a procedural programming concept pinned tightly to compilation. Functional and concurrent programming approaches this differently<|eor|><|sor|>/uj does anyone have an example of a pure functional language that doesn't have generic types?<|eor|><|sor|>Lambda calculus<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 23 |
programmingcirclejerk | porkslow | e40ing | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 148 |
programmingcirclejerk | porkslow | f95y838 | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|soopr|>Writing code in production, PHP 5.4, MySQL and concatenating SQL queries.
Either this is an elaborate troll or FAANG tech bros really can't write code for shit.
You might know this guy from his other hits:
* [Why I'm so good at coding.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqgH9j3x2OE)
* [I got fired from Facebook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pIJoPkh9IU)
* [My wife left me.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssFXlNk6vw)<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 128 |
programmingcirclejerk | AsmCoder110 | f963of9 | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|sor|>Oh god oh fuck please don't make me watch this dude. Aarrrgghh I lost my boner, I'm quitting pcj.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 127 |
programmingcirclejerk | cooper12 | f970dis | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|soopr|>Writing code in production, PHP 5.4, MySQL and concatenating SQL queries.
Either this is an elaborate troll or FAANG tech bros really can't write code for shit.
You might know this guy from his other hits:
* [Why I'm so good at coding.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqgH9j3x2OE)
* [I got fired from Facebook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pIJoPkh9IU)
* [My wife left me.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssFXlNk6vw)<|eoopr|><|sor|>AS AN EX-GOOGLE TECH LEAD<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 71 |
programmingcirclejerk | TheItalipino | f996b04 | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|soopr|>Writing code in production, PHP 5.4, MySQL and concatenating SQL queries.
Either this is an elaborate troll or FAANG tech bros really can't write code for shit.
You might know this guy from his other hits:
* [Why I'm so good at coding.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqgH9j3x2OE)
* [I got fired from Facebook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pIJoPkh9IU)
* [My wife left me.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssFXlNk6vw)<|eoopr|><|sor|>AS AN EX-GOOGLE TECH LEAD<|eor|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>EX-GOOGLE EX-FACEBOOK EX-FATHER EX-HUSBAND<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 67 |
programmingcirclejerk | 28f272fe556a1363cc31 | f965f7a | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|sor|>lol, I down voted the click bait title...until I realized the sub.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 54 |
programmingcirclejerk | unfixpoint | f96jgoq | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|sor|>`\unjerk ->` This guy is not serious about anything, why should he be about this?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 51 |
programmingcirclejerk | TehRoot | f97993k | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|soopr|>Writing code in production, PHP 5.4, MySQL and concatenating SQL queries.
Either this is an elaborate troll or FAANG tech bros really can't write code for shit.
You might know this guy from his other hits:
* [Why I'm so good at coding.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqgH9j3x2OE)
* [I got fired from Facebook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pIJoPkh9IU)
* [My wife left me.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssFXlNk6vw)<|eoopr|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>it's this weird mixture of over the top satire and genuine tragedy mixed with shitty human<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 51 |
programmingcirclejerk | nakilon | f97lyng | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|sor|>That's a huge career jump -- from Google techlead to 11 minutes Youtube webmaster hello world sessions.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 45 |
programmingcirclejerk | TehRoot | f98ag2z | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|soopr|>Writing code in production, PHP 5.4, MySQL and concatenating SQL queries.
Either this is an elaborate troll or FAANG tech bros really can't write code for shit.
You might know this guy from his other hits:
* [Why I'm so good at coding.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqgH9j3x2OE)
* [I got fired from Facebook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pIJoPkh9IU)
* [My wife left me.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssFXlNk6vw)<|eoopr|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>it's this weird mixture of over the top satire and genuine tragedy mixed with shitty human<|eor|><|sor|>/uj why do you think he's a shitty human - I've just started watching a few videos and he seems pretty spot on<|eor|><|sor|>mostly about his description of his wife leaving him with their son, his description mostly externalizes the reasoning. "My wife, the success, the money, her family" it's classic symptoms of someone who can't recognize that their own behavior is at least part of the problem.
Then he goes to youtube to whine about it while pimping out shit in the description.
His facebook thing was mostly him whining about facebook not conforming to his beliefs on workplace policies, mostly so he could cash in on some more drama and obviously has some distortion to the truth, most of those "I was fired by [x company here] for [outrageous thing here]" are a winding path through a forest of shitty behavior by everyone
the channel is pretty satirical but it doesn't disguise the fact that they guy isn't a fantastically balanced person or someone who should be considered a role model<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 45 |
programmingcirclejerk | cmdk | f97fkwq | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|sor|>`\unjerk ->` This guy is not serious about anything, why should he be about this?<|eor|><|sor|>He is serious about selling his shitty course.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 42 |
programmingcirclejerk | editor_of_the_beast | f96o1rh | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|sor|>You cant even safely enforce the 140 character limit in 140 lines of Rust.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 25 |
programmingcirclejerk | PC__LOAD__LETTER | f97omzd | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|soopr|>Writing code in production, PHP 5.4, MySQL and concatenating SQL queries.
Either this is an elaborate troll or FAANG tech bros really can't write code for shit.
You might know this guy from his other hits:
* [Why I'm so good at coding.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqgH9j3x2OE)
* [I got fired from Facebook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pIJoPkh9IU)
* [My wife left me.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssFXlNk6vw)<|eoopr|><|sor|>> Writing code in production
Expecting someone to set up a full CI/CD workflow to demonstrate a POC is a little ridiculous<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 25 |
programmingcirclejerk | l0gicgate | f988xy5 | <|sols|><|sot|>Ex-Google TechLead builds a full-stack web application for a Twitter prototype in less than 140 lines of code.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXqXPWjmKk<|eol|><|sor|>/uj
This guy is an absolute clown for real, please dont give him views
/j
#I cAn Do A bEtTeR cLoNe iN 70 LiNeS oF gO<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 24 |
programmingcirclejerk | umop_aplsdn | dz53n5 | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 142 |
programmingcirclejerk | tomwhoiscontrary | f8604ob | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>>I agree, but there's a certain line that a good software engineer should not cross and that's where their improved social skills make local gf attainment feasible, because then they'll start devoting their time to other things.
I want `local gf attainment` as a flair.<|eor|><|sor|>I'm intrigued by the implied alternative, which is presumably cloud gf attainment.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 52 |
programmingcirclejerk | Gobrosse | f85fmv1 | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>The 100xer social skills chad vs the 0.01xer leetcode virgin<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 49 |
programmingcirclejerk | andiconda | f85oxjm | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>The 100xer social skills chad vs the 0.01xer leetcode virgin<|eor|><|sor|>This is true. My coding quality has been plummeting since I got married. I don't even watch conferences about Rust anymore.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 41 |
programmingcirclejerk | pcopley | f85vjax | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>> theres no skill involved in simply not being a huge insufferable asshole
I don't know about this. I've met lots of programmers with no skills who are also huge insufferable assholes.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 36 |
programmingcirclejerk | disintegore | f85vyv9 | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
welll akshaully its a bit more aheh nuanced than that.
it can be people that just totally ignore a lot of social cues. like talking code to business people that could give less of a fuck (these are people that think you are some IT Wizgod cuz you made a CRUD app or fixed an excel document)
or wearing cargo shorts. with flip flops. when everyone else is business casual.
or being in your 40s wearing fucking metal band graphic Ts and jeans.
or dress shirt + pants, then wear fucking worn out running shoes<|eor|><|sor|>normie please. it doesn't matter what you wear unless you have boomers to impress. I'll still be wearing black T shirts with unreadable band logos on them when I'm 65.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 36 |
programmingcirclejerk | i9srpeg | f85l6z3 | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>where's the jerk<|eor|><|sor|>He has no local gf, so the jerk is all there is.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 35 |
programmingcirclejerk | usernameqwerty003 | f85z1mw | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>> My personal life needs to suffer for my company to succeed<|eor|><|sor|>We want sex!
We want sex!
We want sex hour working day!
/uj yeah, doesn't work in English, but in some languages sex/six is one word. I tried.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 33 |
programmingcirclejerk | overactor | f861p4w | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>The 100xer social skills chad vs the 0.01xer leetcode virgin<|eor|><|sor|>This is true. My coding quality has been plummeting since I got married. I don't even watch conferences about Rust anymore.<|eor|><|sor|>But then how do you stimulate your wife?<|eor|><|sor|>Unsafely.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 33 |
programmingcirclejerk | GammaGames | f8621a1 | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>>I agree, but there's a certain line that a good software engineer should not cross and that's where their improved social skills make local gf attainment feasible, because then they'll start devoting their time to other things.
I want `local gf attainment` as a flair.<|eor|><|sor|>I'm intrigued by the implied alternative, which is presumably cloud gf attainment.<|eor|><|sor|>waifu attainment<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 32 |
programmingcirclejerk | pcopley | f85vfhg | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>The 100xer social skills chad vs the 0.01xer leetcode virgin<|eor|><|sor|>This is true. My coding quality has been plummeting since I got married. I don't even watch conferences about Rust anymore.<|eor|><|sor|>But then how do you stimulate your wife?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 32 |
programmingcirclejerk | vonmoltke2 | f871bhc | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>>I agree, but there's a certain line that a good software engineer should not cross and that's where their improved social skills make local gf attainment feasible, because then they'll start devoting their time to other things.
I want `local gf attainment` as a flair.<|eor|><|sor|>I'm intrigued by the implied alternative, which is presumably cloud gf attainment.<|eor|><|sor|>Girlfriend as a Service
Oh wait, that has been around as long as humanity.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 28 |
programmingcirclejerk | generalT | f869tuc | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
welll akshaully its a bit more aheh nuanced than that.
it can be people that just totally ignore a lot of social cues. like talking code to business people that could give less of a fuck (these are people that think you are some IT Wizgod cuz you made a CRUD app or fixed an excel document)
or wearing cargo shorts. with flip flops. when everyone else is business casual.
or being in your 40s wearing fucking metal band graphic Ts and jeans.
or dress shirt + pants, then wear fucking worn out running shoes<|eor|><|sor|>> or being in your 40s wearing fucking metal band graphic Ts and jeans.
woah easy there hoss.<|eor|><|sor|>ok, boomer.<|eor|><|sor|>Oh, so you think being a BOOMER is easy? Every morning I wake up and have to:
- Activate all capitals
- Pray to Flag
- Download virus
- Ask to call Google
- Alienate myself
- Become hacked
- Eat bread
- Pick my ringtone song
- Turn ringer volume up
- Get a phone call at the movies
- Listen to my good ringtone
- Chew thy bread
- Facebook like & share
- Scream until I fall asleep<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | tomwhoiscontrary | f86080s | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
welll akshaully its a bit more aheh nuanced than that.
it can be people that just totally ignore a lot of social cues. like talking code to business people that could give less of a fuck (these are people that think you are some IT Wizgod cuz you made a CRUD app or fixed an excel document)
or wearing cargo shorts. with flip flops. when everyone else is business casual.
or being in your 40s wearing fucking metal band graphic Ts and jeans.
or dress shirt + pants, then wear fucking worn out running shoes<|eor|><|sor|>How is this not socialjerking? You both belong in PCJ prison.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | TheSpaceRat | f862vbh | <|sols|><|sot|>On learning basic social skills: I feel like this is anti-progress. My industry's success depends on me sitting in my room coding and not having a gf.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585716<|eol|><|sor|>> My personal life needs to suffer for my company to succeed<|eor|><|sor|>We want sex!
We want sex!
We want sex hour working day!
/uj yeah, doesn't work in English, but in some languages sex/six is one word. I tried.<|eor|><|sor|>/uh
Works in English with a Kiwi accent.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | vonmoltke2 | 51mgpm | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 143 |
programmingcirclejerk | terrence_phan | d7dfor9 | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|soopr|>Would have been a 1000xer, but no mention of Rust, Go, Haskal, or Node.<|eoopr|><|sor|>When his code is finished, the only thing the tractor will do is Rust.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 53 |
programmingcirclejerk | vonmoltke2 | d7d1p0t | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|soopr|>Would have been a 1000xer, but no mention of Rust, Go, Haskal, or Node.<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 35 |
programmingcirclejerk | terrence_phan | d7dfnhd | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>I can easily find the cure for cancer, but I'd rather just write my new Javascript framework.<|eor|><|sor|>Make sure to implement immutable collections.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 25 |
programmingcirclejerk | Leonnee | d7eamgb | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>I actually work on tractor guidance systems....<|eor|><|sor|>How does it feel knowing this guy could do your job in an afternoon?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 25 |
programmingcirclejerk | tomridesbikes | d7dlf41 | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>I actually work on tractor guidance systems....<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 23 |
programmingcirclejerk | Haecairwen | d7dxfra | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>If this problem is so trivial why isn't he working on Google's self driving cars, huh?<|eor|><|sor|>If he did, he would solve it in a day and Google would have no work left for all the employee currently working on this "problem". He's just being kind to all these simple minded workers.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 21 |
programmingcirclejerk | LeucanthemumVulgare | d7d65ni | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>If this problem is so trivial why isn't he working on Google's self driving cars, huh?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | insane0hflex | d7dv9mf | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>\> five lines of code
\> all five of these are just method calls that have hundreds of lines of business logic
wew lad
what a fukkin babby<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 15 |
programmingcirclejerk | CleanCodeWarrior | d7d78dc | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>underage b&<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | Talran | d7ecm8w | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>\> five lines of code
\> all five of these are just method calls that have hundreds of lines of business logic
wew lad
what a fukkin babby<|eor|><|sor|>Nah, five lines of code that are the entire methods written in a single line each that were written in vi running on a node.js terminal.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 9 |
programmingcirclejerk | insane0hflex | d7dvap2 | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>underage b&<|eor|><|sor|>underage bampersand?<|eor|><|sor|>underage banned
^(b + and)<|eor|><|sor|>shouldnt this be `underage.BuildFactory.BuildHelper() == __BANNED`?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 8 |
programmingcirclejerk | Clashsoft | d7dfwqc | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>This is obviously the wrong coefficient. I hereby propose the introduction of the term "100000xer". Only two people in the world have this title, the kid in the post and our golorious Commander Pike.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | b1ack1323 | d7dzoe9 | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>/r/iamverysmart<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | bartavelle | d7e2em7 | <|sols|><|sot|>100xer could build tractor autopilot in 5 minutes<|eot|><|sol|>http://imgur.com/a/5YnZG<|eol|><|sor|>If this problem is so trivial why isn't he working on Google's self driving cars, huh?<|eor|><|sor|>Takes at least a year for a 10xer https://www.engadget.com/2016/05/25/riding-shotgun-with-geohot/ ... so probably a big month for this guy.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | never_inline | 13hrg89 | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 147 |
programmingcirclejerk | androgynyjoe | jk6lanu | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>"OK, except I don't care if you don't use it, it doesn't change my life."
"Then shut the fuck up"
Beautiful.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 86 |
programmingcirclejerk | boy-griv | jk6kkve | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>How can it crash if its written in Crystal?
Shoulda jumped on the Elixir train instead to transmogrify crashes into high availability webscale programming<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 80 |
programmingcirclejerk | xmcqdpt2 | jk6vu6f | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>> OK, except I don't care if you don't use it, it doesn't change my life.
top 10 OSS moment<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 71 |
programmingcirclejerk | boy-griv | jk6nqsp | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>"OK, except I don't care if you don't use it, it doesn't change my life."
"Then shut the fuck up"
Beautiful.<|eor|><|sor|>Can't jerk, too hard to tell who the dumb one is<|eor|><|sor|>Theyre both 100% correct and total morons. This was still better than that stockfish PR thread.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 54 |
programmingcirclejerk | WagwanKenobi | jk6kkze | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>Because there are no memory leaks, only happy accidents.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 45 |
programmingcirclejerk | tomwhoiscontrary | jk82fzg | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>> I think it might be actually a problem with the language invidious is written in. Crystal uses the Boehm GC, which has a tendency to play it safe and leave memory allocated that doesn't need to be, rather than risk a use-after-free. As crazy as it may sound, scheduling periodic restarts isn't a crazy thing to do for a long-running program like that which maintains its state in a database anyway. I've heard of Go and Python admins just turning off the GC and using periodic restarts to avoid the overhead of the GC
It is vital when using a garbage collector to periodically reboot the application, so you don't depend on the garbage collector.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 45 |
programmingcirclejerk | usenetflamewars | jk6szhp | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>>I suggest you start youtubing some UX theory videos.
Kek, yeah because it takes theory to realize that giving a shit about your app crashing is important if you want people to use it<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 39 |
programmingcirclejerk | nuclearbananana | jk6mi50 | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>"OK, except I don't care if you don't use it, it doesn't change my life."
"Then shut the fuck up"
Beautiful.<|eor|><|sor|>Can't jerk, too hard to tell who the dumb one is<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 38 |
programmingcirclejerk | boy-griv | jk6uozj | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>>I suggest you start youtubing some UX theory videos.
Kek, yeah because it takes theory to realize that giving a shit about your app crashing is important if you want people to use it<|eor|><|sor|>https://i.imgur.com/6f3UBwU.png<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 35 |
programmingcirclejerk | cheater00 | jk7ienl | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>Absolutely love the dickrider jumping in to clarify what the dev _really_ meant and it's not _that_ bad, but I think the best part of this is the classical delusional "I OWE YOU ***NOTHING***!!!!!!!!!!!!" developer reacting with this exact tantrum to literally anything, any time, for any reason<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 31 |
programmingcirclejerk | usenetflamewars | jk6spgh | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>How can it crash if its written in Crystal?
Shoulda jumped on the Elixir train instead to transmogrify crashes into high availability webscale programming<|eor|><|sor|>>Elixer
Based and Armstrong pilled<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 28 |
programmingcirclejerk | spicyboi404 | jk6tz7m | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>How can it crash if its written in Crystal?
Shoulda jumped on the Elixir train instead to transmogrify crashes into high availability webscale programming<|eor|><|sor|>Okay, hear me out fellow devs and ops enthusiasts, because I've unlocked the ultimate DevOps secret. Brace yourselves for a wild ride!
So, here's how it goes: DevOps, the sacred union of development and operations, is like riding a never-ending roller coaster. You start with grand aspirations of achieving continuous delivery nirvana, but buckle up, my friends, because you're in for a bumpy journey.
Step 1: You kick things off with a brand-new feature request, armed with agile methodologies and a sprinkle of optimism. You and your team code away, creating wonders in your virtual sandbox, blissfully unaware of the chaos that awaits.
Step 2: Once you think you've conquered the code, it's time for the dreaded "integration." Brace yourselves, my friends, for this is where chaos reigns supreme. Suddenly, dependencies break like brittle twigs, and conflicts erupt like an unexpected family reunion. Your perfectly functioning feature crumbles into a heap of despair, leaving you pondering the meaning of existence.
Step 3: With the integration battles fought, it's time to deploy. Oh, the joy of pushing your code into the wild! But hold on tight, because this is where gremlins and ghosts lurk, ready to wreak havoc on your carefully crafted masterpiece. Server crashes, databases go AWOL, and customers are quick to unleash their wrath. The blame game begins, and you find yourself longing for the simplicity of the stone age.
Step 4: As the fire-fighting subsides, it's time to analyze what went wrong. Your post-mortem discussions resemble a support group for traumatized developers. You dissect every line of code, trace every log, and desperately search for answers. But deep down, you know it's a dance you'll repeat in the future.
Step 5: Equipped with newfound knowledge, you refactor and optimize, promising yourself that this time it'll be different. You fortify your automated testing, tighten your deployment pipelines, and embrace the latest tools promising eternal salvation. But alas, there's no foolproof shield against the whims of the software gods.
And so, my fellow DevOps adventurers, the cycle continues ad infinitum. We strive for seamless deployments, only to be met with Murphy's Law in its full glory. But hey, that's the DevOps way! It's a love-hate relationship, a never-ending saga of coding triumphs and operational tribulations.
So, raise your cups of coffee and toast to the relentless pursuit of perfection in the DevOps realm. May your deployments be somewhat less catastrophic, and may the forces of chaos be forever in your favor.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | james_pic | jk9blhc | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>> I think it might be actually a problem with the language invidious is written in. Crystal uses the Boehm GC, which has a tendency to play it safe and leave memory allocated that doesn't need to be, rather than risk a use-after-free. As crazy as it may sound, scheduling periodic restarts isn't a crazy thing to do for a long-running program like that which maintains its state in a database anyway. I've heard of Go and Python admins just turning off the GC and using periodic restarts to avoid the overhead of the GC
It is vital when using a garbage collector to periodically reboot the application, so you don't depend on the garbage collector.<|eor|><|sor|>"Uses Boehm GC" is just another way of saying "we don't understand how garbage collection works".<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | tomwhoiscontrary | jk9iah8 | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>> I think it might be actually a problem with the language invidious is written in. Crystal uses the Boehm GC, which has a tendency to play it safe and leave memory allocated that doesn't need to be, rather than risk a use-after-free. As crazy as it may sound, scheduling periodic restarts isn't a crazy thing to do for a long-running program like that which maintains its state in a database anyway. I've heard of Go and Python admins just turning off the GC and using periodic restarts to avoid the overhead of the GC
It is vital when using a garbage collector to periodically reboot the application, so you don't depend on the garbage collector.<|eor|><|sor|>"Uses Boehm GC" is just another way of saying "we don't understand how garbage collection works".<|eor|><|sor|>That's not entirely true. It usually also means they don't understand how C works.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | git_commit_-m_sudoku | jk7knk1 | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>Based and Lerdorfpilled.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | Anti-Antidote | jk8kedg | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>How can it crash if its written in Crystal?
Shoulda jumped on the Elixir train instead to transmogrify crashes into high availability webscale programming<|eor|><|sor|>> [Crystal is a high-level general-purpose, object-oriented programming language ... With syntax inspired by the language Ruby, it is a compiled language with static type-checking, but specifying the types of variables or method arguments is generally unneeded. Types are resolved by an advanced global type inference algorithm.](https://twitter.com/PLT_Hulk/status/341292374355501056)
[source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_(programming_language))<|eor|><|sor|>> Types are resolved by an advanced global type inference algorithm
Never before have I ever legitimately shuddered at a statement like I have this.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | boy-griv | jk91vec | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>"OK, except I don't care if you don't use it, it doesn't change my life."
"Then shut the fuck up"
Beautiful.<|eor|><|sor|>Can't jerk, too hard to tell who the dumb one is<|eor|><|sor|>Theyre both 100% correct and total morons. This was still better than that stockfish PR thread.<|eor|><|sor|>It would be amazing if this developer came to this thread to explain how we are all wrong and crashing is not a big deal.<|eor|><|sor|>It does seem like the people getting linked to from here have been finding their way back to PCJ more often lately. Its usually a fun surprise when the one-way mirror suddenly stops working<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 9 |
programmingcirclejerk | jalembung | jk79fun | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>there's this piece of writing that has something like the following: "ruby on rails is ghetto"
now I'm convinced that webdev in entirety is ghetto.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | cheater00 | jk7hhjd | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>there's this piece of writing that has something like the following: "ruby on rails is ghetto"
now I'm convinced that webdev in entirety is ghetto.<|eor|><|sor|>[Hats off to you Kevin, you fucking prick. Im enjoying my vacation too.](http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/rails/is-a-ghetto)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | cheater00 | jk7gpnx | <|sols|><|sot|>.. we recommend daily restart for single user instances and hourly restart for public instances.<|eot|><|sol|>https://reddit.com/comments/13hdjiz/comment/jk4rdvc?context=3<|eol|><|sor|>How can it crash if its written in Crystal?
Shoulda jumped on the Elixir train instead to transmogrify crashes into high availability webscale programming<|eor|><|sor|>Okay, hear me out fellow devs and ops enthusiasts, because I've unlocked the ultimate DevOps secret. Brace yourselves for a wild ride!
So, here's how it goes: DevOps, the sacred union of development and operations, is like riding a never-ending roller coaster. You start with grand aspirations of achieving continuous delivery nirvana, but buckle up, my friends, because you're in for a bumpy journey.
Step 1: You kick things off with a brand-new feature request, armed with agile methodologies and a sprinkle of optimism. You and your team code away, creating wonders in your virtual sandbox, blissfully unaware of the chaos that awaits.
Step 2: Once you think you've conquered the code, it's time for the dreaded "integration." Brace yourselves, my friends, for this is where chaos reigns supreme. Suddenly, dependencies break like brittle twigs, and conflicts erupt like an unexpected family reunion. Your perfectly functioning feature crumbles into a heap of despair, leaving you pondering the meaning of existence.
Step 3: With the integration battles fought, it's time to deploy. Oh, the joy of pushing your code into the wild! But hold on tight, because this is where gremlins and ghosts lurk, ready to wreak havoc on your carefully crafted masterpiece. Server crashes, databases go AWOL, and customers are quick to unleash their wrath. The blame game begins, and you find yourself longing for the simplicity of the stone age.
Step 4: As the fire-fighting subsides, it's time to analyze what went wrong. Your post-mortem discussions resemble a support group for traumatized developers. You dissect every line of code, trace every log, and desperately search for answers. But deep down, you know it's a dance you'll repeat in the future.
Step 5: Equipped with newfound knowledge, you refactor and optimize, promising yourself that this time it'll be different. You fortify your automated testing, tighten your deployment pipelines, and embrace the latest tools promising eternal salvation. But alas, there's no foolproof shield against the whims of the software gods.
And so, my fellow DevOps adventurers, the cycle continues ad infinitum. We strive for seamless deployments, only to be met with Murphy's Law in its full glory. But hey, that's the DevOps way! It's a love-hate relationship, a never-ending saga of coding triumphs and operational tribulations.
So, raise your cups of coffee and toast to the relentless pursuit of perfection in the DevOps realm. May your deployments be somewhat less catastrophic, and may the forces of chaos be forever in your favor.<|eor|><|sor|>> is like riding a never-ending roller coaster
/rj more like riding a never-ending dick<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | beltsazar | 13dhom3 | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 145 |
programmingcirclejerk | bladub | jjksd5m | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I love how offended people get about the idea that software should not crash on user input<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 117 |
programmingcirclejerk | wzdd | jjl30p8 | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>Security consultant here.
The fact that Stockfish crashes randomly is a huge thing. I've read countless amount of code that abused memory-safe techniques (unfortunarely developers think they have to use memory safety all the time if it is available) and is probably completely insecure for the simple reason that very few people manage to audit/understand the code. If memory safety could only be used when necessary, yes, but there are no technical way to enforce this.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 65 |
programmingcirclejerk | Artikae | jjl262h | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>Its not a buffer overrun, its Surprise Hot-Reload via Return-oriented Programming<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 63 |
programmingcirclejerk | Roflator420 | jjl94x6 | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I love how offended people get about the idea that software should not crash on user input<|eor|><|sor|>This type of discourse from chess players doesn't surprise me at all.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 45 |
programmingcirclejerk | bladub | jjksbj3 | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>> with current computation power, even on the GPU, this would take a long time
Proof Of Stockfish when?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 41 |
programmingcirclejerk | MCRusher | jjlj9ba | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>Security consultant here.
The fact that Stockfish crashes randomly is a huge thing. I've read countless amount of code that abused memory-safe techniques (unfortunarely developers think they have to use memory safety all the time if it is available) and is probably completely insecure for the simple reason that very few people manage to audit/understand the code. If memory safety could only be used when necessary, yes, but there are no technical way to enforce this.<|eor|><|sor|>>The fact that Stockfish crashes randomly is a huge thing.
I'm struggling to understand a lot about your comment, but I'll start here: "randomly" crashes? The crashes described here might be bad, but they're certainly not random.<|eor|><|sor|>lurk more<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 33 |
programmingcirclejerk | pascal-wizzzard | jjlnmj7 | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>256 is more moves than anyone will ever need<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 30 |
programmingcirclejerk | boy-griv | jjlzjht | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>/uj stockfish has no ui, yes? to actually "exploit" this "vuln", the ui needs to have a flaw in the first place, no? so I guess I agree with op.
/rj what is buffer overflow? is it related to buffet overflow?<|eor|><|sor|>/uj Yeah but its like a PNG decoder library with a documented buffer-overflow on invalid PNGs, so now your app has to understand the PNG format enough to do some nontrivial check that the PNG is valid, which was the whole point of the PNG library.
But I dont really know much about this, I guess people use stockfish in public-facing servers potentially accepting these strings, which makes sense. And maybe theres other validators but like, just fix it and add a compile flag to switch back to crashy-turbo-mode.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | irqlnotdispatchlevel | jjm4m7d | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I hope someone at least has some logical thought process on this forum.
My response, albeit aggressive, stems from a heated discussion by the creator of this PR, who believed it to be a RCE vulnerability - **it is statistically not**. Not to mention, I furthermore explained the time cost behind finding such a vulnerability to be well over a couple of decades. However, the Reddit users here and in r/programming have misrepresented the entire chess-engine development community.
We are well aware of what RCE and Buffer overflow are. We also believe they're serious issues. What we don't believe is that this is an issue/vulnerability for Stockfish.
Regardless, u/Sopel97 has written a patch that should explicitly crash Stockfish for invalid positions rather than causing a buffer overflow (and implicitly crashing). This is done so that one doesn't have to argue about this stupid thing much longer. There are likely other ways to make Stockfish crash and have buffer overflows too.<|eor|><|sor|>We all know the only real solution is to rewrite it in Rust.<|eor|><|sor|>For obvious reasons, I hope this is sarcasm. If so, please skip this message...
In the case that it is not, the obvious reasons I speak of stem from the fact that you can have the same safety when writing safe C++ code. Safety, no matter how you see it, comes at a cost. Rust isn't an exception.
However, I am someone who doesn't prefer to entertain this "safety" discussion. I'd like to quote the Lead Architect of the C# Programming language:
>All unsafe code is safe when used safely.
As this quote clarifies, as long as the code is used appropriately (safely in this case), it is safe. There are obvious arguments like the quote being completely nonsensical and just stating:
>All dead people are not alive.
Either way, both statements are factually and logically correct.<|eor|><|sor|>>For obvious reasons, I hope this is sarcasm. If so, please skip this message...
We here at r/pcj are always serious and never joke about anything.
/uj yes, this is a humorous take, don't take it seriously<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | irqlnotdispatchlevel | jjm35cg | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I hope someone at least has some logical thought process on this forum.
My response, albeit aggressive, stems from a heated discussion by the creator of this PR, who believed it to be a RCE vulnerability - **it is statistically not**. Not to mention, I furthermore explained the time cost behind finding such a vulnerability to be well over a couple of decades. However, the Reddit users here and in r/programming have misrepresented the entire chess-engine development community.
We are well aware of what RCE and Buffer overflow are. We also believe they're serious issues. What we don't believe is that this is an issue/vulnerability for Stockfish.
Regardless, u/Sopel97 has written a patch that should explicitly crash Stockfish for invalid positions rather than causing a buffer overflow (and implicitly crashing). This is done so that one doesn't have to argue about this stupid thing much longer. There are likely other ways to make Stockfish crash and have buffer overflows too.<|eor|><|sor|>We all know the only real solution is to rewrite it in Rust.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 25 |
programmingcirclejerk | PermafrostMethane | jjm5cqj | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>256 is more moves than anyone will ever need<|eor|><|sor|>Agreed. If you cannot win in under 16 moves you probably shouldn't be playing chess.<|eor|><|sor|>... this is a jerk, right?<|eor|><|sor|>No way, here?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | AutoModsrator | jjlusq0 | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>256 is more moves than anyone will ever need<|eor|><|sor|>Agreed. If you cannot win in under 16 moves you probably shouldn't be playing chess.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | boy-griv | jjlyka4 | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I love how offended people get about the idea that software should not crash on user input<|eor|><|sor|>This type of discourse from chess players doesn't surprise me at all.<|eor|><|sor|>Yeah preferring a tedious protracted discussion about it vs. just adding `+ 64` seems about right. Just fix the damn bug guys.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | boy-griv | jjnwads | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I love how offended people get about the idea that software should not crash on user input<|eor|><|sor|>This type of discourse from chess players doesn't surprise me at all.<|eor|><|sor|>>This type of discourse from chess players doesn't surprise me at all.
If you're talking about my comment (TheBlackPlague), it has logical and statistical backing. The PR doesn't. Many have concluded that it is not an issue or a security vulnerability, likewise to my initial analysis.
Now, I would like to say that I do come off as very aggressive in the response, but kindly understand that we receive pointless issues like these a lot. If you have a logical or statistical backing, please provide it, and it's worth considering. Otherwise, you're wasting time of good people, and they're bound to get annoyed about that.
Regardless, as someone stated, my actions are mine. I apologize that I came off aggressive & unprofessional.<|eor|><|sor|>> Only man-child I see is you. Go change memcpy and cp too while you're at it. Also malloc. joy
[Already](https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/primitive.slice.html#method.copy_from_slice) [did](https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/tree/main/src/uu/cp) [it](https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/alloc/index.html). Checkmate, as i believe your people say.<|eor|><|sor|>More like a check with an easy way out. Hardly a checkmate:
Rust is one language out of the many used. Stockfish isn't even in Rust. Please show C++ sources.<|eor|><|sor|>> Stockfish isn't even in Rust.
Ah theres the problem<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | jalembung | jjlnvuj | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>/uj stockfish has no ui, yes? to actually "exploit" this "vuln", the ui needs to have a flaw in the first place, no? so I guess I agree with op.
/rj what is buffer overflow? is it related to buffet overflow?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | hexane360 | jjncgld | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I hope someone at least has some logical thought process on this forum.
My response, albeit aggressive, stems from a heated discussion by the creator of this PR, who believed it to be a RCE vulnerability - **it is statistically not**. Not to mention, I furthermore explained the time cost behind finding such a vulnerability to be well over a couple of decades. However, the Reddit users here and in r/programming have misrepresented the entire chess-engine development community.
We are well aware of what RCE and Buffer overflow are. We also believe they're serious issues. What we don't believe is that this is an issue/vulnerability for Stockfish.
Regardless, u/Sopel97 has written a patch that should explicitly crash Stockfish for invalid positions rather than causing a buffer overflow (and implicitly crashing). This is done so that one doesn't have to argue about this stupid thing much longer. There are likely other ways to make Stockfish crash and have buffer overflows too.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
You:
>Only man-child I see is you.
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>Nobody intelligent gives a fuck. ... This is not an issue. You're trying to solve a problem that DOES NOT EXIST. Stop and close this shit.
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> This whole thread is filled with Reddit experts
You when somebody asks you to be polite and avoid ad-hominem:
>I agree with this, however, to what extent should stupidity be tolerated? At what point do we draw the line and state that there is only nonsense being requested?
Look, you seem smart enough, and I'm not going to try to dictate the project's goals. But when libpng has a buffer overflow when given an invalid png, they don't ask for a proof of concept exploit, they don't say 'it's your fault for not verifying your .png file before passing it to a png library', and they certainly aren't immediately hostile towards the people who report it. Especially when the fix is as simple as increasing a buffer from 256 to 320 elements.
>No, I definitely do agree that respect should be provided *where deserved*. I just disagree that stupidity should also be respected.
No one's asking you to respect stupidity. They're asking you to respect people. And everyone you were replying to was acting in good faith and 'deserved' respect. I'm not sure why you took this so personally, despite [this](https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aofficial-stockfish%2FStockfish+author%3ATheBlackPlague&type=commits). No one is expecting you to "have this conversation for over the 10th time".
P.S., this is hilarious to me: "Multiple people have said and proven it statistically isn't exploitable".<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | pysk00l | jjm8b42 | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>/uj
from the comments:
>Summary. Stockfish is free to crash on any illegal position where "illegal" is being defined as being not reachable from the starting position.
Wow.
/rj
We need a "Right to Crash" in the constitution. It's a human right!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | tomwhoiscontrary | jjmilc7 | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I hope someone at least has some logical thought process on this forum.
My response, albeit aggressive, stems from a heated discussion by the creator of this PR, who believed it to be a RCE vulnerability - **it is statistically not**. Not to mention, I furthermore explained the time cost behind finding such a vulnerability to be well over a couple of decades. However, the Reddit users here and in r/programming have misrepresented the entire chess-engine development community.
We are well aware of what RCE and Buffer overflow are. We also believe they're serious issues. What we don't believe is that this is an issue/vulnerability for Stockfish.
Regardless, u/Sopel97 has written a patch that should explicitly crash Stockfish for invalid positions rather than causing a buffer overflow (and implicitly crashing). This is done so that one doesn't have to argue about this stupid thing much longer. There are likely other ways to make Stockfish crash and have buffer overflows too.<|eor|><|sor|>We all know the only real solution is to rewrite it in Rust.<|eor|><|sor|>I was genuinely stunned when i got to the end of that comment chain and nobody had suggested it.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | the211a | jjqugll | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I hope someone at least has some logical thought process on this forum.
My response, albeit aggressive, stems from a heated discussion by the creator of this PR, who believed it to be a RCE vulnerability - **it is statistically not**. Not to mention, I furthermore explained the time cost behind finding such a vulnerability to be well over a couple of decades. However, the Reddit users here and in r/programming have misrepresented the entire chess-engine development community.
We are well aware of what RCE and Buffer overflow are. We also believe they're serious issues. What we don't believe is that this is an issue/vulnerability for Stockfish.
Regardless, u/Sopel97 has written a patch that should explicitly crash Stockfish for invalid positions rather than causing a buffer overflow (and implicitly crashing). This is done so that one doesn't have to argue about this stupid thing much longer. There are likely other ways to make Stockfish crash and have buffer overflows too.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
You:
>Only man-child I see is you.
-
>Nobody intelligent gives a fuck. ... This is not an issue. You're trying to solve a problem that DOES NOT EXIST. Stop and close this shit.
-
> This whole thread is filled with Reddit experts
You when somebody asks you to be polite and avoid ad-hominem:
>I agree with this, however, to what extent should stupidity be tolerated? At what point do we draw the line and state that there is only nonsense being requested?
Look, you seem smart enough, and I'm not going to try to dictate the project's goals. But when libpng has a buffer overflow when given an invalid png, they don't ask for a proof of concept exploit, they don't say 'it's your fault for not verifying your .png file before passing it to a png library', and they certainly aren't immediately hostile towards the people who report it. Especially when the fix is as simple as increasing a buffer from 256 to 320 elements.
>No, I definitely do agree that respect should be provided *where deserved*. I just disagree that stupidity should also be respected.
No one's asking you to respect stupidity. They're asking you to respect people. And everyone you were replying to was acting in good faith and 'deserved' respect. I'm not sure why you took this so personally, despite [this](https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aofficial-stockfish%2FStockfish+author%3ATheBlackPlague&type=commits). No one is expecting you to "have this conversation for over the 10th time".
P.S., this is hilarious to me: "Multiple people have said and proven it statistically isn't exploitable".<|eor|><|sor|>Which statement of mine is incorrect? Do let me know. And every field is different. Please don't bring libpng's dynamics into the dynamics of Stockfish. Image Processing is not the same as Chess Computation.
When will developers get it into their head that not every project has to go by "general practices" and in certain cases, even going against them is acceptable? Like please, most of the people here have no clue how chess engines even work, let alone know how to write one. The claims stated in the PR are a laughing stock in the Stockfish Discord as they're absurd. It is outright stupidity, which you're asking me to respect. If you saw, I never used the words *fuck*, or *shit* referring to someone. Instead, both words were used to refer to something. I wasn't disrespecting any person, I was just not entertaining stupidity. Please kindly take a step back and understand this.
And quite frankly, the only batch of developers I've seen delusional enough to think they know everything about everything are developers from these subreddits. To all the Reddit experts out there, you don't know everything. You don't know how shit works. Stop battering people that do. You are the reason almost everyone I talk to calls Reddit shit. You're misrepresenting the actual good parts of Reddit the actual good developers here.
As for you citing my commit history please once again take a step back and go through my GitHub profile. I may not have contributed to Stockfish, but I'm an active member of their community and have worked on one of the top competitive chess engines in the world, StockNemo (which has played in the top chess engine competition). I have more background in chess engine development, among other fields, then the majority of people commenting. I didn't take it personal. I gave an objective response.
The PR is closed for good reason.<|eor|><|sor|>log off
/uj: log off<|eor|><|sor|>Not sure what I did wrong when logging off, but GNOME decided it was bad enough to warrant a segfault. I will make sure to read the docs on how to log off correctly and learn what is and isn't an illegal logging-off procedure. Frankly I'm just grateful that my error wasn't great enough that it would see fit to reformat my hard drive as punishment.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | tomwhoiscontrary | jjmi49e | <|sols|><|sot|>I have years of experience in vulnerability analysis including several 0-day discovery, and this bug [buffer overflow] seems totally safe.<|eot|><|sol|>https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4558#issuecomment-1537538185<|eol|><|sor|>I love how offended people get about the idea that software should not crash on user input<|eor|><|sor|>This type of discourse from chess players doesn't surprise me at all.<|eor|><|sor|>>This type of discourse from chess players doesn't surprise me at all.
If you're talking about my comment (TheBlackPlague), it has logical and statistical backing. The PR doesn't. Many have concluded that it is not an issue or a security vulnerability, likewise to my initial analysis.
Now, I would like to say that I do come off as very aggressive in the response, but kindly understand that we receive pointless issues like these a lot. If you have a logical or statistical backing, please provide it, and it's worth considering. Otherwise, you're wasting time of good people, and they're bound to get annoyed about that.
Regardless, as someone stated, my actions are mine. I apologize that I came off aggressive & unprofessional.<|eor|><|sor|>> Only man-child I see is you. Go change memcpy and cp too while you're at it. Also malloc. joy
[Already](https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/primitive.slice.html#method.copy_from_slice) [did](https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/tree/main/src/uu/cp) [it](https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/alloc/index.html). Checkmate, as i believe your people say.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 15 |
programmingcirclejerk | integralWorker | 1331oxc | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 144 |
programmingcirclejerk | McGlockenshire | ji7j1h8 | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>>> Holy shit. You're in a cult.
>
>We are the Pragmatic Realists, dangerous throughout history of course.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 81 |
programmingcirclejerk | pcjftw | ji801qi | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>C/C++ is the 60s
Rust is 2020s
No more free drugs and unprotected sex.
Time to put on the Rust condom boys...<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 66 |
programmingcirclejerk | dudumudubud | ji8bney | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>C/C++ is the 60s
Rust is 2020s
No more free drugs and unprotected sex.
Time to put on the Rust condom boys...<|eor|><|sor|>>Rust condom
ouch<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 37 |
programmingcirclejerk | Handsomefoxhf | ji8fc3h | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>C++ feels like too much fun? Can't use Rust while all the kids use it? No problem! Just try to add a dependency to your C++ project and you can join all the cool kids immediately!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 32 |
programmingcirclejerk | Safe_Ask_8798 | ji7psrc | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>By fire and sword, you will bend the knee to the Borrow Checker.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | joemckie | ji8rq7j | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>C/C++ is the 60s
Rust is 2020s
No more free drugs and unprotected sex.
Time to put on the Rust condom boys...<|eor|><|sor|>>Rust condom
ouch<|eor|><|sor|>Jagged for her displeasure<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | rpkarma | ji94088 | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>C++ feels like too much fun? Can't use Rust while all the kids use it? No problem! Just try to add a dependency to your C++ project and you can join all the cool kids immediately!<|eor|><|sor|>*laughs/sobs in CMake*<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | jalembung | ji8cgoc | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>why not ada?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | freak_dessert2 | ji94vvv | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>It's the same type of "fun" as dwarf fortress. Writing rust is easy mode, so when something does happen it's welcomed and provides the developer entertainment.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | MCRusher | ji952ay | <|sols|><|sot|>Is Rust as 'fun' as C++? No. Just like being an adult isn't necessarily as fun as being a teenager. But it's time for the software world to move on into adulthood, or at least young adulthood.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/132qedv/comment/ji6jcpb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x<|eol|><|sor|>If you don't hate your life and job you aren't an adult and are probably a .1xer<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 8 |
programmingcirclejerk | RockstarArtisan | 12bxnjr | <|sols|><|sot|>Bad code is everywhere. Rust makes bad code hard. Rust makes my erection hard.<|eot|><|sol|>https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/12bld8n/our_company_uses_rust_because_it_makes_bad_code/<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 142 |
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