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[64.68 --> 67.30] the most intuitive ways to spin up a cloud server. |
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[110.18 --> 111.38] And now, on to the show. |
[111.38 --> 116.64] So, we're joined today by my good friend, John Long. |
[116.76 --> 122.74] John, we, I guess this show is kind of funny because I wanted to have you back on the show. |
[122.80 --> 126.84] This is not your first time on the changelog, so it's kind of like, welcome back too, right? |
[127.40 --> 127.70] Yeah. |
[128.50 --> 131.66] I think the last time we were on here, I was talking about Radiant. |
[131.96 --> 132.14] Yeah. |
[132.76 --> 134.62] So, it was a long time ago. |
[134.78 --> 135.72] It was a long time ago. |
[135.72 --> 142.18] And the funny part is, is that, I gotta say, like, what, three years ago now we started |
[142.18 --> 142.94] the SaaS way? |
[143.36 --> 144.58] The blog, the SaaS way? |
[145.06 --> 145.34] Yeah. |
[145.54 --> 146.30] Was it three years ago? |
[147.62 --> 151.28] It's, it's getting to the point where it's hard for me to remember how long ago it was. |
[151.84 --> 152.44] It's... |
[152.44 --> 153.68] I think it is right around three. |
[153.94 --> 154.24] Yeah. |
[154.24 --> 156.82] It's so crazy to think like three years ago, though. |
[156.88 --> 158.36] It's, I don't even know. |
[158.56 --> 160.10] But, yeah. |
[160.36 --> 164.72] So, I wanted to have you back on the show, one, because you're pretty awesome. |
[164.82 --> 168.68] And two, we've got this kind of, I guess, somewhat of a new announcement. |
[168.82 --> 171.60] It's been about two weeks or three weeks now since we've had this out there. |
[171.70 --> 178.38] But the SaaS way, just to kind of fill everybody in, the SaaSway.com is a blog John and I started |
[178.38 --> 181.80] together maybe, we're saying roughly three years ago. |
[181.80 --> 184.80] We'll figure out the exact mark there, but... |
[184.80 --> 185.94] Looks like it was 2011. |
[186.50 --> 186.90] Was it? |
[187.26 --> 187.50] Yeah. |
[187.82 --> 191.06] So, yeah, it was like around, I guess, yeah, July, August, 2011. |
[192.32 --> 192.34] Yeah. |
[192.34 --> 193.20] Yeah, so we're coming up. |
[193.42 --> 194.66] So, roughly three years. |
[194.74 --> 196.36] Yeah, just, just shy. |
[196.62 --> 202.70] But, so we started this blog because we were super passionate about writing CSS the SaaS way. |
[203.50 --> 208.10] And, and so we wanted to, like, be the SaaS jerk, so to speak. |
[208.10 --> 213.00] We wanted to be that, that person to, like, tell the world about SaaS and compare it to, |
[213.46 --> 219.80] you know, various ways you can do it with CSS, but make your code more readable or use mix-ins |
[219.80 --> 221.28] or use libraries and all this fun stuff. |
[221.34 --> 224.60] So we wanted to share our, our great fun stuff with the SaaS way. |
[224.60 --> 231.46] And, uh, you had a project called SaaS Watch that you started with Brandon Mathis, who's |
[231.46 --> 235.58] also a core contributor to Compass, works at, uh, Mongo HQ. |
[235.80 --> 239.56] And he's pretty well known actually for Octopress, right? |
[240.36 --> 240.54] Yeah. |
[241.70 --> 244.60] Although I'm not sure, I'm not sure if Brandon was involved. |
[244.70 --> 250.68] I know I had asked him, uh, at one point if he would be interested in being a part of it, |
[250.68 --> 252.74] but he's, he's a busy guy. |
[253.04 --> 255.92] Uh, and I didn't get a whole lot of traction on that. |
[256.08 --> 261.16] Um, I think I was doing that for, it wasn't long. |
[261.22 --> 264.70] It was actually just a month or so by the time you contacted me. |
[264.70 --> 265.06] Ah, okay. |
[265.60 --> 265.94] Yeah. |
[266.98 --> 271.40] Well, before, uh, I guess unless we assume somebody went back and listened to, I'm not |
[271.40 --> 275.38] even sure what the episode was that you were on before that we gave you your other intro |
[275.38 --> 280.86] here on the change law, but, uh, for those who may not know who John W. Long is, who, uh, |
[280.86 --> 281.54] who are you, John? |
[282.90 --> 288.40] Uh, so I'm, uh, I, I'm a user interface designer. |
[288.40 --> 291.78] Uh, I work for, uh, user voice. |
[292.10 --> 296.68] Uh, we make, uh, help desk and feedback software. |
[297.96 --> 301.50] Um, yeah, I live in Cary, North Carolina. |
[301.50 --> 304.20] Uh, work in Raleigh, North Carolina. |
[304.96 --> 306.50] Um, yeah. |
[306.98 --> 309.88] Past accomplishments is Radiant CMS and. |
[310.60 --> 310.94] Yeah. |
[311.16 --> 319.68] I was the creator of Radiant CMS and, uh, I also serve, um, yeah, a number of open source |
[319.68 --> 322.10] projects, um, on GitHub. |
[322.60 --> 323.04] Yeah. |
[323.04 --> 332.46] Are you still, uh, involved with, um, with Ruby Lang and the, I guess the site at least? |
[333.12 --> 333.50] You know what? |
[333.56 --> 337.20] That has seemed, it seems like it's, uh, picked up traction. |
[337.32 --> 341.92] They moved away from Radiant at a certain point and, um, I've just been happy to see that |
[341.92 --> 346.72] other people care about that site and are maintaining it, uh, which is great. |
[346.88 --> 348.68] Are you still involved in Radiant then or no? |
[348.68 --> 348.76] Yeah. |
[350.02 --> 357.12] Um, uh, I guess officially I still am, but unofficially I haven't been involved with the project for |
[357.12 --> 357.72] a long time. |
[358.00 --> 358.20] Hmm. |
[358.50 --> 358.68] Okay. |
[358.82 --> 359.00] Yeah. |
[360.24 --> 361.36] How do you feel about that? |
[361.42 --> 362.84] You're pretty happy or just whatever? |
[363.64 --> 368.66] Um, I mean, I still have a lot of things that I would love to see Radiant be able to do. |
[369.02 --> 376.50] Um, but honestly, most of the stuff that I work on nowadays, I'm very content to use a |
[376.50 --> 377.60] static site generator. |
[378.46 --> 383.00] Um, I mean, having the site in a database, unless you're working with like multiple people |
[383.00 --> 385.86] or, uh, it's kind of a drag. |
[386.06 --> 386.24] Yeah. |
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