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• Opportunity cost and the speaker's willingness to take that risk |
• The purpose of open companies, which is to "bust open governments and corporations" |
• The speaker's activism and desire to live their life in a way that is not closed and secretive |
• The importance of nuance and taking into account the complexities of open companies |
• The speaker's commitment to respecting people's privacy and confidentiality, even in an open company setting |
• The speaker discusses the possibility of collaborating with someone, but hesitates due to concerns about openness and privacy. |
• The speaker mentions that they have reservations about being too open, but also value the benefits of community and open-source projects. |
• The speaker shares a personal anecdote about wanting to collaborate with someone, but ultimately deciding not to due to concerns about openness. |
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of respecting individuals' boundaries and prioritizing their lives outside of the internet. |
• The speaker discusses their interview policy, which involves being selective about who they share personal details with and prioritizing security and safety concerns. |
• Discussion of private conversations vs. public transparency in a company |
• Personal relationships and online interactions influencing company decisions |
• Balance between online and offline interactions |
• Limitations of interpersonal relationships in a company |
• The importance of transparency and openness in a company's decision-making process |
• The founder's personal approach to balancing transparency and private conversations |
• The founder's perspective on the company's mission and values |
• The need for public vetting of decisions through GitHub issues or other means |
• The founder's self-description as a "bony gut bag" and its implications for company decisions |
• Open company initiative and its evolution |
• Balance payments and other companies involved |
• Annual events for open companies |
• Tenets of an open company: share as much as possible and charge as little as possible |
• Definition of "charge as little as possible" and its relation to sharing control |
• Examples of companies practicing open company principles |
• Challenges and future plans for the open company initiative, including sustainability and financial concerns |
• The speaker's original goal of making $2000 per week |
• The value of freedom and flexibility in choosing one's lifestyle and work |
• The idea of a "market for caring" and paying creators for their work based on its value to others |
• The concept of a "pay what you want" model, similar to Humble Bundle's approach |
• The speaker's personal situation, including their wife's potential job search and their use of Airbnb to supplement their income |
• The evolution of Gidip's model from a focus on specific income goals to a more flexible, patronage-based approach. |
• Discussion of anonymous donations and patronage models for open-source projects |
• Evolution of the GIDIP model into something different from traditional patronage |
• Need to relax constraints around visibility of donations in GIDIP |
• Use of GIDIP to support a pay-what-you-want model and the Shields project |
• Acquisition of Shields and development of a dynamic badge implementation |
• Consolidation of badge implementations under a single GitHub repository |
• Collaborative effort and community input in bringing the badge project forward |
• Success of the project in bringing together different implementations and maintaining a single, dynamic implementation. |
• The hosts discuss their relationship with Top Towel, a platform that connects elite engineers with businesses, and feature a listener who has successfully applied to work with Top Towel. |
• The hosts discuss a new funding model for the service behind GitHub read me badges, aiming to fund maintenance through a "pay what you want" model where users and vendors contribute small amounts. |
• The hosts reflect on the challenges of integrating different cultures, such as design and journalism, into the open source culture of GIDIP. |
• The hosts discuss the importance of understanding and adapting to the cultures of different industries and teams. |
• The hosts mention the failure of an experiment in open journalism and the difficulties of integrating journalism into the open source culture. |
• The hosts also mention investors and the need to understand and adapt to the cultures of different industries and teams. |
• Discussion of investor roles and compensation on the Gidip platform |
• Launch of the "teams" feature on Gidip and its potential for investor integration |
• Comparison of Gidip with Patreon and other platforms using patronage models |
• Challenges faced by Gidip and its team, including finding an angel investor and managing burn rate |
• The team's commitment to working on Gidip full-time, including a personal example of a team member moving to Nicaragua to reduce expenses |
• The "chicken and egg" problem of needing funding to grow and attract more users, but needing users to attract investors. |
• Discussion of Google Trends data showing a "hockey stick" growth pattern for Patreon, contrasting with the speaker's own platform, Get Up |
• Analysis of Patreon's success, including their founders' connections and funding, and how this differs from the speaker's own approach |
• Comparison of Get Up's open, transparent approach to Patreon's more traditional, funded model |
• Reflection on the speaker's own doubts and potential alternative paths, including a humorous aside about becoming Amish |
• Discussion of the speaker's admiration for Guido van Rossum, creator of Python, and a chance encounter with him |
• Discussing ending the call on a positive note |
• Introducing the new site building.getup.com for Get Up documentation and collaboration |
• Encouraging listeners to support Get Up and contribute to open-source projects |
• Discussing a call with DHH (David Heinemeier Hansson) and funding open-source initiatives |
• Mentioning a potential follow-up call to discuss more about Get Up and open-source projects |
• Encouraging listeners to give to teams and people they support and consider becoming receivers themselves |
• Thanking sponsors and promoting upcoming episodes and topics |
• Repetitive mention of "you" without context or discussion. |
[0.00 --> 16.32] welcome back everyone this is the changelog where a member supported blog podcast and weekly email |
[16.32 --> 21.40] covering what's fresh and what's new in open source check out the blog at the changelog.com |
[21.40 --> 27.84] our past shows at five by five dot tv slash changelog and you're listening to episode 123 |
[27.84 --> 33.10] jared and i we caught up with chad whittaker the founder of gidip and we talked to him about what's |
[33.10 --> 37.30] new this year with gidip and the directions they're taking today's show is sponsored by our |
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[98.10 --> 106.20] we're joined today by an awesome friend previous uh previous person that's been on the show before |
[106.20 --> 112.54] chad whitaker founder of get up uh i'm adam stakovic and we also have the managing editor jared santo on the |
[112.54 --> 117.54] show so we got uh three people on the call today a fun show lineup it's kind of like a |
[117.54 --> 123.10] uh it's definitely like a reconvening right chad because you were on the show almost to the day this time |
[123.10 --> 130.52] last year absolutely and our annual may call our check-in yes and and you got a birthday coming up soon not |
[130.52 --> 137.30] personally but get it all right yep get it get it is gonna be two years old on june 1st june 1st wow |
[137.30 --> 145.54] couple weeks here scary right you know this has been a really big milestone in my mind since i started |
[145.54 --> 152.40] i've kind of thought two years is is the amount of time i've given myself to work on this and see if |
[152.40 --> 158.08] this is going to go anywhere so we're coming up on that milestone so it is scary maybe yeah uh kind of |
[158.08 --> 162.82] definitely a chance to reflect uh you know on what's happened the past couple years and where |
[162.82 --> 170.18] we are so when you say that uh does that does that mean there may be no future in get up or are you |
[170.18 --> 174.90] thinking about quitting it i mean what's that was the question right okay right the question what's the |
[174.90 --> 182.88] answer yeah the the answer is full steam ahead uh that's the good news uh yeah i mean i i kind of |
[182.88 --> 186.76] said all right i'm gonna be heads down and i'm gonna just go for it right and i'm not gonna pay |
[186.76 --> 192.50] attention to you know how fast we're growing or you know how well we're doing or what's going on |
[192.50 --> 198.44] with it i'm not i'm gonna kind of like stay heads down and just work and plow ahead on it and then |
[198.44 --> 204.68] at that two-year mark that's when i'll come up for air and say all right where are we you know is this |
[204.68 --> 210.20] thing uh you know is this thing gonna work is this going anywhere do i still love working on it do i |
[210.20 --> 215.74] not love working on it um you know and make a decision and you know the bottom line is i still |
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